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thebland
06-06-06, 07:43 AM
As noted in the 'Latest Software Update?' thread, it is here.

I connected my ethernet last night in anticipation of it and sure enough this morning, I manually started the download from the Toshiba menu and 30 minutes later (broadband), my player was updated to the 1.20 firmware.

As a note, I checked the Toshiba website and it is NOT available for download. At this point etherent only.

I have had zero problems prior to the update, so we'll see if it is still that way.

alfbinet
06-06-06, 07:47 AM
As noted in the 'Latest Software Update?' thread, it is here.

I connected my ethernet last night in anticipation of it and sure enough this morning, I manually started the download from the Toshiba menu and 30 minutes later (broadband), my player was updated to the 1.20 firmware.

As a note, I checked the Toshiba website and it is NOT available for download. At this point etherent only.

I have had zero problems prior to the update, so we'll see if it is still that way.

Off to Rat Shack for an ethernet cable! Interesting. I was on the phone with a Tosh Rep asking for an update to be sent to me. I never sent in the card, but registered my unit online at their site. He told me (last evening) that they were still working on an update and that I would be notified my email since I registered on their website. He didn't know when the "update" would be released. I did not tell him about the update file already being posted on AVS!

ahro
06-06-06, 07:52 AM
I wonder if it's exactly the same as the update that has been used by others (and me) from this forum. It has the same rev number so I assume it's the same. I hope someone later today can add some color to this assumption.

And speaking of color, I'm waiting for the DVI color fix.

Hyabusha
06-06-06, 08:06 AM
Nice! I'm going upstairs now! :D Plus the XBOX 360 Update Is available too! :D :D

BenDover
06-06-06, 08:16 AM
i fired mine up this morning to start the update and by the time i had to run off to the salt mines the front panel only indicated 30 percent completee..that was 30 in after staring...i have it connected wirelessly using a linksys wireless-g bridge and i know that the wireless bridge is flaky so i'm just hoping it completes or that they devised a failsafe way to perform this update in the event it gets interrupted!

AtlPaul
06-06-06, 08:34 AM
I wonder if it's exactly the same as the update that has been used by others (and me) from this forum. It has the same rev number so I assume it's the same. I hope someone later today can add some color to this assumption.

And speaking of color, I'm waiting for the DVI color fix.I used the update from this forum. This morning I attempted to update via the internet and the player indicated that it already had the latest revision.

AtlPaul
06-06-06, 08:43 AM
i fired mine up this morning to start the update and by the time i had to run off to the salt mines the front panel only indicated 30 percent completee..that was 30 in after staring...i have it connected wirelessly using a linksys wireless-g bridge and i know that the wireless bridge is flaky so i'm just hoping it completes or that they devised a failsafe way to perform this update in the event it gets interrupted!Although only somebody at Toshiba would know for sure, generally such updates are devised to be failsafe. If they're not then some software engineer at Toshiba would be a complete bonehead. The typical protocol for such an update is to download the entire content of the update, validate it (using checksums or similar methods), internally backup the current revision, mark internally that actual application of the update is in progress, attempt to and complete the revision's application. If successful then then to complete the entire process internally they would mark no update in progress. If a failure occurs during revision application then a reboot would check for the update-in-progress flag while running the bootup sequence from the bios code. If the update-in-progress flag is on then the bios would reapply the old backed-up revision or the new one, depending on how they chose to code this.

But again, only somebody at Toshiba knows for sure if they utilized a failsafe method OR they cut down on development and hedge their bets they only get a small percentage of failures.

BenDover
06-06-06, 08:52 AM
Although only somebody at Toshiba would know for sure, generally such updates are devised to be failsafe. If they're not then some software engineer at Toshiba would be a complete bonehead. The typical protocol for such an update is to download the entire content of the update, validate it (using checksums or similar methods), internally backup the current revision, mark internally that actual application of the update is in progress, attempt to and complete the revision's application. If successful then then to complete the entire process internally they would mark no update in progress. If a failure occurs during revision application then a reboot would check for the update-in-progress flag while running the bootup sequence from the bios code. If the update-in-progress flag is on then the bios would reapply the old backed-up revision or the new one, depending on how they chose to code this.

But again, only somebody at Toshiba knows for sure if they utilized a failsafe method OR they cut down on development and hedge their bets they only get a small percentage of failures.


this is certainly what i am hoping for :)

i wish i could 'remote' into the player froom the office to check status...and maybe even stream some content :)

JOtteman
06-06-06, 09:01 AM
I completed the update last night. It took about 30 minutes. Does anyone know what this adds or fixes?

Jay

plazman
06-06-06, 09:04 AM
Although only somebody at Toshiba would know for sure, generally such updates are devised to be failsafe. If they're not then some software engineer at Toshiba would be a complete bonehead. The typical protocol for such an update is to download the entire content of the update, validate it (using checksums or similar methods), internally backup the current revision, mark internally that actual application of the update is in progress, attempt to and complete the revision's application. If successful then then to complete the entire process internally they would mark no update in progress. If a failure occurs during revision application then a reboot would check for the update-in-progress flag while running the bootup sequence from the bios code. If the update-in-progress flag is on then the bios would reapply the old backed-up revision or the new one, depending on how they chose to code this.

But again, only somebody at Toshiba knows for sure if they utilized a failsafe method OR they cut down on development and hedge their bets they only get a small percentage of failures.

I can confirm one case where the initial update failed and second attempt worked...but player worked even with failed update. So I am assuming some fail-safe mechnaism is built in....

thebland
06-06-06, 09:06 AM
I hope someone can check BTB & WTW before AND after the revision to verify if it is part of the update....

hawkeye3.1
06-06-06, 09:14 AM
I hope someone can check BTB & WTW before AND after the revision to verify if it is part of the update....

Apparently for the majority HDMI is full range IRE capable with new F/W as confirmed by sspears and K. Deering. Some are still not able to see BTB due to some display related issues.

bshplt
06-06-06, 09:22 AM
....okay, I'm trying to update via ethernet (wireless bridge)but the "Updating 0pct" is flashing since 10 minuties ago and its just sitting there!!!

Anyone else updated the player successfully over ethernet??

EDIT: WOOWOOOOOOO After 10 minutes it's saying 10pct!!

ZiggyB
06-06-06, 09:24 AM
...okay, I'm trying to update via ethernet (wireless bridge)but the "Updating 0pct" is flashing since 10 minuties ago and its just sitting there!!!

It's just SLOOOOOOOW. It'll move eventually. Mine is at 40% after 30 mins...

thebland
06-06-06, 09:34 AM
My update could've taken up to an hour as I left the room after about 15 minutes..and returned 40 minutes later... It did take 15 minutes to get to 30%..

Did the black market update take this long?

bshplt
06-06-06, 09:37 AM
I'm sitll at 10pct after 25 minutes :( sigh

SOWK
06-06-06, 09:49 AM
My update could've taken up to an hour as I left the room after about 15 minutes..and returned 40 minutes later... It did take 15 minutes to get to 30%..

Did the black market update take this long?

Nope 6 min!

vinodk
06-06-06, 09:51 AM
Can somebody explain step by step procedure on how to update firmware over ethernet for a novice like me. Once the connection is made does the player automatically search for updates or do you have to go to a specific site?
Thanks,

thebland
06-06-06, 09:53 AM
I am internet illiterate as well...Follow the manual..it took 1 minute..Everything popped up as it was supposed to. Simply plug the player (ethernet) into the router and follow the steps. It recognized my broadband and did everything else automatically...

Bradad
06-06-06, 09:56 AM
Too funny as I was getting sick of all the lockups now with COR and VH, so last night I said f it and installed the update that was uploaded by a nice fellow here on avs. NO MORE LOCKUPS NOW! :D :D It took about 5 minutes to apply. I was just getting soooo tired of the problems and after reading this post, I knew the update that was uploaded was legit anyways!

http://www.hdbeat.com/category/news/

Toshiba HD-XA1 HD DVD player firmware upgrade leaked
Posted Jun 2nd 2006 9:19PM by Richard Lawler

Early adopting Toshiba HD-XA1 HD DVD player owners may be in for a special treat this weekend, as a poster on AVSForums has obtained a copy of a firmware upgrade early and posted it for download. Rumors on the board indicate Toshiba may release the update for owners to via disc or download next week, but if you just can't wait, all you need is a CD-R and a copy of Nero and you should be in business.

So what does the update do other than flipping your firmware number over to 1.2? Early reports from posters yorkie2k and sspears indicate reduced load times, no freezing when searching/skipping around movies and fixes for HDMI connection problems. Although the update is labeled for the HD-XA1 premium player, users have not reported any problems with the HD-A1 after upgrading. As usual, applying as yet unofficial updates could void your warranty, brick your player or kick your cat, so proceed with caution. Fortunately, as an early adopter, we know you're used to throwing caution to the wind, so update your player and let us know how it goes. Increased performance and stability may just be what Toshiba needs to lure the cautious off the fence and into buying.

[Thanks for the tip WiFiSpy!]

I noticed after the update slightly increased load time and chapter skips. Maybe the update increased the buffer size? I also noticed the player takes longer to power off now, not much longer, maybe 4 or 5 seconds.

I tried Cinderella Man, Full Metal Jacket, Chronicles, Van Helsing, at the parts where they locked before and they seem to work fine now. I haven't tried Jarhead yet which caused me grief before. I am also going to watch some of the initial releases that didn't cause me any grief before like Serenity, Apollo 13, Doom, etc and hope that they still play okay.

QuadESL63
06-06-06, 10:05 AM
I hope someone can check BTB & WTW before AND after the revision to verify if it is part of the update....

I jumped onto the 1.2 firmware posted in this forum and my A1 is passing BTB over HDMI now on my Panny AE700. I have checked this with my SD-DVD DVE. I can't see the outer blacker than black bar before but I can see it now.

If the update over the ethernet is the same one than it should be fine now.

jorgerod
06-06-06, 10:09 AM
i fired mine up this morning to start the update and by the time i had to run off to the salt mines the front panel only indicated 30 percent completee..that was 30 in after staring...i have it connected wirelessly using a linksys wireless-g bridge and i know that the wireless bridge is flaky so i'm just hoping it completes or that they devised a failsafe way to perform this update in the event it gets interrupted!

Yep. Its called checksum and they would be pretty stupid to launch a internet enabled update model without doing checksum or CRC for their files before the player attempting to upgrade. the number of dead players would be astronomical with such an insecure medium as the internet.

Jorge

P.S. By insecure I mean prone to failure by ISPs and circuits Etc. not security as in personal info security.

ay221
06-06-06, 10:49 AM
Will this thing work with dial-up?

GamerGuyX
06-06-06, 10:59 AM
Will this thing work with dial-up?

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/rofl.gif

rob316
06-06-06, 11:00 AM
Will this thing work with dial-up?


I would order the CD. What in the world are you doing with Dial-up?

Jon Spackman
06-06-06, 11:03 AM
No on the dial-up. :rolleyes:

amirm
06-06-06, 11:17 AM
If you have dial up, I recommend downloading the disc image from the other threads, burning a CD and then upgrading that way. Alternatively, if your PC is next to the Toshiba, you can use your PC to act as a "bridge" and connect that way. You would be turning on Internet sharing under advanced setting for your dial up connection in the network connections folder. You would select the Ethernet device in the drop down there. Then dial up as normal and anything connected to the Ethernet port would think you have a permanent, broadband connection.

If I have lost you with above, then I highly recommend that you try the download route :).

chrishicks
06-06-06, 11:17 AM
stupid Comcast, my modem has reset 2 times in the middle of this update so far. I guess it must be that 6/6/6 date.

DaveinTucson
06-06-06, 12:57 PM
Worked for me! :cool: I have WildBlue satellite internet, max 1.5 MBps DL. ( I live too far out in the boonies to get anything else but dial-up)

The Update took about 1/2 hour. The XA1 shut down after completion. I powered it up, went into Update and it showed the 1.2/1.09/2.0 firmware version. I checked all my settings - I thought I'd read in the DL the update thread that it blew out all personalized settings. Nope, everything was still there. I've had almost not problems with my XA1. But like my Windows XP Pro PC - almost no problems with it also, but if the official site says there's an update available, I update. :p

egore
06-06-06, 01:17 PM
I hope someone can check BTB & WTW before AND after the revision to verify if it is part of the update....

I am not getting BTB on my JVC D-ILA 52Z575 through HDMI. I am getting WTW the enhanced black setting on or off doesn't seem to do anything either. My set does pass BTB with my S97 through HDMI set to 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 output.

thebland
06-06-06, 01:19 PM
It seems some get it and some don't...Does everyone.....

1. Have updated software?
2. HDMI to HDMI cable?

PNahre
06-06-06, 01:24 PM
I used the update from this forum. This morning I attempted to update via the internet and the player indicated that it already had the latest revision.

Where did you get the update on this forum?

PFC5
06-06-06, 01:24 PM
daveintucson:

I think you SHOULD do a initialize which will reset everything to the default. Others have said that the PQ was slightly softer after the update until they did this.

To do a initialization just go into the setup menu then to general > maintenance > initialize.

GamerGuyX
06-06-06, 01:33 PM
Where did you get the update on this forum?

The firmware update was posted in this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=681416

ahro
06-06-06, 01:34 PM
daveintucson:

I think you SHOULD do a initialize which will reset everything to the default. Others have said that the PQ was slightly softer after the update until they did this.

To do a initialization just go into the setup menu then to general > maintenance > initialize.


Doesn't make a difference. A few, very few, have perceived a difference.

DigitalfreakNYC
06-06-06, 01:58 PM
Would they ever tell us what the update does?

miamiguy
06-06-06, 02:05 PM
Doesn't make a difference. A few, very few, have perceived a difference.

I'm kind of surprised to hear from others that after the firmware update the picture looks softer. I have a JVC LCOS D-ILA HDTV connected via HDMI to my A1, and if anything I have noticed after I applied the upgrade, is that the picture looks even SHARPER than before :eek: . Out of curiosity, I asked a friend who had already seen movies in my setup before I upgraded the firmware, I asked him this simple question: do you notice any difference now? and he said: Yes, it is even sharper than before...

I have not changed any settings in my TV, so that would not be the reason. Anybody had a similar experience around here?

Andrew P
06-06-06, 02:09 PM
I'm kind of surprised to hear from others that after the firmware update the picture looks softer. I have a JVC LCOS D-ILA HDTV connected via HDMI to my A1, and if anything I have noticed after I applied the upgrade, is that the picture looks even SHARPER than before :eek: . Out of curiosity, I asked a friend who had already seen movies in my setup before I upgraded the firmware, I asked him this simple question: do you notice any difference now? and he said: Yes, it is even sharper than before...

I have not changed any settings in my TV, so that would not be the reason. Anybody had a similar experience around here?

It means that the only way to test the before and after picture quality is to have two players side by side (with old and new firmware). It doesnt mean going from memory which is pointless if you ask me.

Thomas Marshall
06-06-06, 02:37 PM
I am internet illiterate as well...Follow the manual..it took 1 minute..Everything popped up as it was supposed to. Simply plug the player (ethernet) into the router and follow the steps. It recognized my broadband and did everything else automatically...

Hey Jeff,

Thanks for the info, and it sounds easy enough. I'll give it a try tonight and see what happens. Also, the good news is I already have a CAT/5 run to my HT so all I need to do is plug it in :)

By the way, do you see any change in the PQ after the upgrade?

bshplt
06-06-06, 02:40 PM
well guys...

I have a problem: the update worked fine, it was showing the new firmware revision, but then i did the Initialize, and now I have no image at all on the screen!!!! Can't see anything!

:( oh my gosh! :(

EDIT: Forgot to set the Video Out to HDMI!! :D Working now!

bferr1
06-06-06, 02:43 PM
bshplt, whenever you initialize, it goes back to its default state, which is component output-enabled. Hit V. Output to switch back to HDMI.

Robert D
06-06-06, 02:44 PM
well guys...

I have a problem: the update worked fine, it was showing the new firmware revision, but then i did the Initialize, and now I have no image at all on the screen!!!! Can't see anything!

:( oh my gosh! :(

You need to select the output again (press the v-out button) and also set the resolution back to 1080i

bshplt
06-06-06, 02:56 PM
Thank you guys, appreciate it!

:D Sorry for the false alarm!

egore
06-06-06, 03:03 PM
I'm kind of surprised to hear from others that after the firmware update the picture looks softer. I have a JVC LCOS D-ILA HDTV connected via HDMI to my A1, and if anything I have noticed after I applied the upgrade, is that the picture looks even SHARPER than before :eek: . Out of curiosity, I asked a friend who had already seen movies in my setup before I upgraded the firmware, I asked him this simple question: do you notice any difference now? and he said: Yes, it is even sharper than before...

I have not changed any settings in my TV, so that would not be the reason. Anybody had a similar experience around here?

I also have a JVC D-ILA and I noticed the same thing after the update, Its probably my imagination but it looks more detailed to me after the update.
Are you getting BTB on your set? I am getting WTW but not BTB.

foulmouthedleon
06-06-06, 03:56 PM
This is going to sound stupid, but how exactly do I do an update for my player? I've got Comcast cable. Does the player have to be hooked up or powered on or do you just stick the ethernet cable in the back and it does the rest?

thebland
06-06-06, 04:17 PM
Get your Toshiba owners manual. Follow the ethernet set up instructions and then go to 'maintenance' in the SET UP menu, click on firmware update and that is it. The manual is actually very good.

PFC5
06-06-06, 04:33 PM
I haven't even opened the manual up yet. :D

Krobar
06-06-06, 04:38 PM
It seems some get it and some don't...Does everyone.....

1. Have updated software?
2. HDMI to HDMI cable?

Myself and some other Lumagen users get BTB through DVI.

DigitalfreakNYC
06-06-06, 04:38 PM
I haven't even opened the manual up yet. :D

Only girls ask for directions. :)

Actually, I had to whip mine out when I hooked it up. I freaked out and didn't know about having to hit the "resolution" button and whatknot. ;)

When I tried to update my firmware last week, it gave me VUP ERROR on my faceplate. I'm assuming it's because my firmware was up to date but I have a feeling I'm wrong. The manual really didn't help me as far as updating. Didn't make much sense.

Thomas Marshall
06-06-06, 05:08 PM
I haven't even opened the manual up yet. :D

This particular manual is short and to the point, you can read it in 10 minutes, so it's probably worth your while to do so :)

CJArciola, III
06-06-06, 05:48 PM
Just finished updating from Toshiba site. I have a cable modem, but it was much slower than I had expected. The update took about 40 minutes to complete! Anyway, the most noticable difference is that when the HD DVD flash screen comes on there are now little blue dots that fly out from it for a few seconds. I haven't watched much HD discs yet so I can't say I've noticed any improvement in PQ or any degradation. The load times seem to be the same to me.

Dave Vaughn
06-06-06, 07:23 PM
I haven't watched much HD tapes yet so I can't say I've noticed any improvement in PQ or any degradation. The load times seem to be the same to me.

Where do you put the tape in? :p

alfbinet
06-06-06, 07:24 PM
Just finished updating from Toshiba site. I have a cable modem, but it was much slower than I had expected. The update took about 40 minutes to complete! Anyway, the most noticable difference is that when the HD DVD flash screen comes on there are now little blue dots that fly out from it for a few seconds. I haven't watched much HD tapes yet so I can't say I've noticed any improvement in PQ or any degradation. The load times seem to be the same to me.

Took me about 40 minutes as well. The first 60% took forever, the remaining 40% went very fast. I agree, I think the manual is very good. Denon should take some cues from Toshiba as far as manuals go!

Update went without a hitch. BTB checked before update with THX optimizer. I could not see the shadow of the logo no matter how high or low I took brightness. After update it was the same. Could it be because I had my set calibrated and changes were made in grayscale and other tweaks in the service menu?

ranger67
06-06-06, 08:16 PM
Only girls ask for directions. :)

Actually, I had to whip mine out when I hooked it up. I freaked out and didn't know about having to hit the "resolution" button and whatknot. ;)

When I tried to update my firmware last week, it gave me VUP ERROR on my faceplate. I'm assuming it's because my firmware was up to date but I have a feeling I'm wrong. The manual really didn't help me as far as updating. Didn't make much sense.

DigitalfreakNYC, mine gave me the same thing until I turned DNS on along with DHCP on. I like others and yourself did not read the manual where it tells you to do this. Afterwards, I saw the DNS IP address updated. Once that was done the update started fine.

I hope this helps

cappra
06-06-06, 09:44 PM
Received my HD1 this morning from Value Electronics. Has a build date of May and has the 1.2 firmware. Have played two HDDVD's and two SD DVD's with no problems so far. I thought all the talk about the remote was exagerated, but I now believe it has to be the worst remote ever designed! The guy that designed it shoud either be fired, retrained or shot! Thank goodness for learning remotes..

Rosano
06-06-06, 09:47 PM
Just finished the update....it was painless...took about 35 minutes....like Jeff said just follow the instructions in the manual...

Haven't played with it yet but the settings i did have have not changed.

Man I have soooo much crap to to do....lol

Monty Williams
06-06-06, 09:53 PM
Updated earlier this evening - painless. Now watching The Perfect Storm. My player was pretty flawless, only one "out of synch" in 25-30 HD HDVD viewings. I haven't gone back and checked a previously viewed HD DVD but I can't detect any softening of the image. The FBI warning at the beginning of the HD DVD was just as sharp and crisp as always.

tkmedia2
06-06-06, 09:58 PM
I updated a machine thru dialup! But the modem was connected to a router via ethernet.:D I always have a analog modem connected to a router, it makes it easy to access my network from remote locations, that dont have any other connections. Or if a broadband connection goes down.

Ken Ross
06-06-06, 10:07 PM
I hope someone can check BTB & WTW before AND after the revision to verify if it is part of the update....

SSpears has already checked it out and it is indeed part of the update.

bembol
06-06-06, 10:16 PM
Updating...

Will check but in...an hour...!!! LOL

thebland
06-06-06, 10:21 PM
SSpears has already checked it out and it is indeed part of the update.

Fantastic!

yorkie2k
06-06-06, 10:29 PM
Toshiba has now officially posted information on their website regarding the new firmware upgrade: http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/hddvd/

Select "support" then "firmware upgrade v1.2"

tboo
06-06-06, 10:43 PM
SSpears has already checked it out and it is indeed part of the update.


I updated my A1 & then popped in a dvd with a THX Optimiser to see if it now passes BTB-it still doesnt.

steviec
06-06-06, 10:44 PM
i just downloaded the 1.2 firmware and now get blacker than black using DVE and whites are no longer crushed.
At first the picture looks different and I remember some saying it is softer.
Actually it is a bit dimmer i believe because of the expanded range at both ends.
Afte 1/2 hour of downloading with the player showing the progress as percentage i unplugged the unit plugged it back in to reboot it and went into the player menu and hit intialize. no problems.
I also have to add that the DTS sound over the toslink and coaxial are ALOT better! more separation and now sounds more as it should.

ILJG
06-06-06, 10:51 PM
Toshiba has now officially posted information on their website regarding the new firmware upgrade: http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/hddvd/

Select "support" then "firmware upgrade v1.2"

Cool, that it's official on the website. But doesn't anyone find it odd that you can't download just the firmware image from the website so you can burn it yourself onto a CD? I have broadband, but I don't have a router, so logistically I can't hook my HD-A1 up to the internet without having to buy one (my PC is way on the other side of the house and just lined directly into my cable modem).

OPPO lets you download the firmware file so you can burn it yourself. I was hoping Tosh would do the same. No biggie, I filled out that little pink card so they'll probably be sending me a firmware CD any day now. Also no biggie since all movies except Jarhead have played just fine, although I'd like to get the clipping taken care of. And no biggie, again, since I could easily just download the firmware from the link you guys have been good enough to provide! :D (If someone gets an "official" CD from Tosh, maybe they could post that image somewhere, too? If I get mine before anyone has a chance, I'll do it, if anyone would like, not that it should be different than the one already posted)

I'm sure it's much faster to download the firmware, burn the CD and update the firmware than it is over the net...maybe we should have a contest to find out.

Although I'm not set up to do it, and people have said it's somewhat slow (30-40 mins), I still think it's pretty damn spiffy, indeed, that with the ethernet ports on the machine, you can download firmware directly from Tosh over the internet.

LoveMovies
06-06-06, 11:22 PM
When I click on the Toshiba HD DVD link and click on Support, I see buttons for Registration, Manuals and Contacts, but no mention of the firmware update.

update: I normally use Netscape for browsing (using it now). Just for grins I brought up Explorer and went to that same link and there is the additional button: Firmware Update !!! WTF?

mypepper
06-07-06, 12:03 AM
If I have wireless internet setup and a laptop computer, is it possible to perform the upgrade through my laptop and then to my HD-A1. I'm a little challenged at the process, so all the help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Randy

Tolstoi
06-07-06, 12:16 AM
I just perform the update via internet and it was seamless and took 36 minutes.

Benoit

nataraj
06-07-06, 01:35 AM
I hate flash websites. Can't copy and paste ...

Anyway, in the FAQ - the second and last answer says you should clean the disc if there are playability issues. Ofcourse the firmware addresses some of them as well.

Big J
06-07-06, 07:45 AM
Has anyone gotten a CD with the upgrade mailed to them yet?
J

thebland
06-07-06, 07:48 AM
I'm on the list to receive the disc...but the cost of mailing so many discs when free web downloads are available makes me wonder if they'd ever ship the discs?

Big J
06-07-06, 08:00 AM
That's kind of what I'm afraid of. My A1 isn't hooked to the internet, so I'll ask them for a hard copy.
J

Hunter67
06-07-06, 08:14 AM
I haven't had a chance to check my player yet but does anyone know if this fixes BTB and WTW over DVI?

BenDover
06-07-06, 08:28 AM
Just finished updating from Toshiba site. I have a cable modem, but it was much slower than I had expected. The update took about 40 minutes to complete! Anyway, the most noticable difference is that when the HD DVD flash screen comes on there are now little blue dots that fly out from it for a few seconds. I haven't watched much HD discs yet so I can't say I've noticed any improvement in PQ or any degradation. The load times seem to be the same to me.

i had the blue dots before and after the upgrade...i have an xa1 if that makes a difference.

when i got home last night after leaving the update at the 30pct mark after about 40min, the player was off...powered her up and the firmware had indeed been updated to the latest rev...wonder how long it actually took and i wish there were a way to backup/get back to the prior version in the future i the event of any issues...maybe a future option?

Thomas Marshall
06-07-06, 09:54 AM
I completed the firmware upgrade last night and it was a piece of cake :)

Plugged in the cable, followed the manual for the setup, went to the main menu and selected "Maintenance", choose the upgrade option, which brought up the disclaimer contract, selected OK and 25 minutes later it was completed.

Unfortunately I didn't have time to check out the results, so tonight I'll see how the picture looks prior to doing an initialization, and then watch a movie or two and see what happens.

JamesO
06-07-06, 10:07 AM
I'm on the list to receive the disc...but the cost of mailing so many discs when free web downloads are available makes me wonder if they'd ever ship the discs?

All they need to do is sell one of the studios advertising on the sleeve and their costs are gone. If they really want a profit from it, they could include trailers (or a separate disc) with it. Right now, we're so hungry for content, I suspect we would be more than happy to sit through a Mentos commercial if it were in HD!

thebland
06-07-06, 10:11 AM
HD for any commercials would be nice..not enough of them.

Big J
06-07-06, 11:29 AM
I just spoke with several very polite people at Toshiba. I was told, that if you filled out the form that came with the player, you WILL get a disc in the mail. They have to enter all the info into their database, so that may be a minor hold up, but they will send them.
J

jocktheglide
06-07-06, 11:58 AM
downloading it now...cant wait to run player again...maybe this will address my lock up? maybe...

Mark Zimmer
06-07-06, 12:24 PM
Yeah, considering the pink postcard strongly urges the first firmware update be done via CD rather than Ethernet, I'm certain they will in fact send out the CDs.

Nats
06-07-06, 12:57 PM
Stupid question:
Do you need to have the tv hooked up when doing the up-grade?
Read the manual, not much help :confused:

hawkeye3.1
06-07-06, 01:03 PM
Yes, you need a display so you can navigate through the menu system, if that is your question. Once you initiate the upgrade it is no longer necessary.

PFC5
06-07-06, 01:56 PM
But breaking the HDMI connection MIGHT halt the update, so I would make sure you set the HDTV to component output on the player before shutting off the tv.

aydu
06-07-06, 01:57 PM
The upgrade can obviously be done via downloading and burning a cd. People have done it here on this board, with success.

Seems that the upgrades should be available via a disc from Toshiba - for those without internet access; by downloading and burning a file - as was done here; and through a wired or wireless web connection - as currently offered.

Many people don't have wireless networks or their A/V equipment anywhere near their broadband. It doesn't make a great deal of sense to set up a temporary A/V set up just to be able to connect the player to the net for upgrades - especially if these will be issued regularly.

Most people with a computer have some net access and disc burning capability, so the download and burn option seems to be a natural for this type of product.

Nats
06-07-06, 02:11 PM
Yes, you need a display so you can navigate through the menu system, if that is your question. Once you initiate the upgrade it is no longer necessary.

Yes, that was my question. Thanks :)

Nats
06-07-06, 02:44 PM
The upgrade can obviously be done via downloading and burning a cd. People have done it here on this board, with success.

Seems that the upgrades should be available via a disc from Toshiba - for those without internet access; by downloading and burning a file - as was done here; and through a wired or wireless web connection - as currently offered.

Many people don't have wireless networks or their A/V equipment anywhere near their broadband. It doesn't make a great deal of sense to set up a temporary A/V set up just to be able to connect the player to the net for upgrades - especially if these will be issued regularly.

Most people with a computer have some net access and disc burning capability, so the download and burn option seems to be a natural for this type of product.

I was thinking the same thing. I would have to get a VERY long ethernet cable to go from where my router (and pc) is to my A/V room (which is on another floor of the house). So I guess I should waite for Toshiba to send the CD.

plazman
06-07-06, 02:46 PM
I was thinking the same thing. I would have to get a VERY long ethernet cable to go from where my router (and pc) is to my A/V room (which is on another floor of the house). So I guess I should waite for Toshiba to send the CD.

Or get a laptop with Wi-Fi and then connect the player to your laptop via a short cable :)

Macroblocker
06-07-06, 04:14 PM
I used the update from this forum. This morning I attempted to update via the internet and the player indicated that it already had the latest revision.

yes, same thing here with me. I DL the image from the link on AVS and i guess its the same , I tested the BTB after the update with THX and can see all 7 boxes but still cant see the drop shadow( i think my DLP cant display BTB, 52HM95) :( i will test BTB with the oppo just to make sure, i know that passes the test.

PS: The pic quality is still great and the Player is still slow but i wouldnt trade it for anything!

aydu
06-07-06, 04:15 PM
Or get a laptop with Wi-Fi and then connect the player to your laptop via a short cable :)

This would cost more than the player!!

Great option if you have the equipment, but many don't.

It just makes sense for Toshiba to offer as many options as possible to owners of these players.

bgosselin
06-07-06, 04:21 PM
I updated my A1 & then popped in a dvd with a THX Optimiser to see if it now passes BTB-it still doesnt.

What is your display? If your display have a DVI input instead of HDMI you won't be able to get BTB et WTW

--Sclaws
06-07-06, 04:31 PM
Since network integration is something that HD DVD, Bluray and other media components are now taking advantage of, I setup a fairly inexpensive wireless solution that works quite well.

I use a Netgear router on my PC , the RangeMax 240 Wireless Router. Its wireless coverage is very good..get a great signal about 80ft away in my living room (HD-A1 location).

At the HD-A1 I have a Netgear 54 Mbps Wireless 4-port Switch (WGPS606). The HD-A1 is connected to this, leaving 3 ports open for expansion (Blu-ray, PS3/XBpx360..whatever).

I recommend this type of setup for anyone without wired access near their media center.

Just my .02 if it helps :)

BenDover
06-07-06, 04:32 PM
But breaking the HDMI connection MIGHT halt the update, so I would make sure you set the HDTV to component output on the player before shutting off the tv.

losing the HDMI handshake has no effect...i started the upgrade then powered down my entire system except the hd dvd player and when i returned home, the upgrade had completed (i found the unit powered off...which made me a little nervous, but all was well...either it powered down on its own or my wife powered it down).

PFC5
06-07-06, 04:51 PM
That is good to know, but if I decided to shut my HDTV off while it updated I think I would still change it to component output to play it safe.

BenDover
06-07-06, 04:58 PM
That is good to know, but if I decided to shut my HDTV off while it updated I think I would still change it to component output to play it safe.

you can never be too safe, i suppose, but i don't have that option as i haven't hooked up the player with anything other than hdmi...i suppose i could but i don't want to add another three interconnects for no real reason...

just be assured that you can power down your display and let the player update...given that my update took quite a while, i would rather not burn those bulb hours watching "now updating..." :)

terabeast
06-07-06, 05:17 PM
Does anybody have the HD-A1 with RCA logo during boot? My unit will not download the new firmware, it errors out with "VUP Error 123" every single time. It's not a problem with my network as I can ping the player from my iMac. I know it has a good connection out to the internet.

I'm just thinking that it won't install the Toshiba firmware because maybe it thinks my player is an RCA. I have one of those freak players that shows an RCA logo during boot when in fact it is a Toshiba HD-A1. Just wondering if anybody else has this problem or has seen this error number. Thanks.

BenDover
06-07-06, 05:21 PM
Does anybody have the HD-A1 with RCA logo during boot? My unit will not download the new firmware, it errors out with "VUP Error 123" every single time. It's not a problem with my network as I can ping the player from my iMac. I know it has a good connection out to the internet.

I'm just thinking that it won't install the Toshiba firmware because maybe it thinks my player is an RCA. I have one of those freak players that shows an RCA logo during boot when in fact it is a Toshiba HD-A1. Just wondering if anybody else has this problem or has seen this error number. Thanks.

do you have dns set up properly?

terabeast
06-07-06, 05:27 PM
do you have dns set up properly?

Yup, DNS is configured to point to my router, just like all the other devices on my network. I'm pretty certain it's not a network issue. I've already done all the troubleshooting like switching wires with my working 360, turning off firewalls, putting the DVD player wide open in the DMZ.

gosawx
06-07-06, 05:49 PM
losing the HDMI handshake has no effect...i started the upgrade then powered down my entire system except the hd dvd player and when i returned home, the upgrade had completed (i found the unit powered off...which made me a little nervous, but all was well...either it powered down on its own or my wife powered it down).


the player powers off after 20 min. of inactivity, fyi

jocktheglide
06-07-06, 06:12 PM
after downloading are you suppose to then hit intilize button?

plazman
06-07-06, 06:26 PM
after downloading are you suppose to then hit intilize button?

Steps I followed:

1. Download
2. Player shut itself off
3. Remove power cable for 30 seconds (I am told this is not required, but I did anyway)
4. I turned it on (after plugging it back on) ---> set up
4. Initialize-->set up
5. You have to re-do the speaker settings etc.
6. set-up to complete set up and turn off player.

Overall: My start -up time increased from around 50 seconds to see image from OFF-->image to 1 min 20 seconds! I am not sure why, but now the player plays badly scratched disks with no problems....

I guess my initial load up time of 45-50 seconds from OFF-->image was much faster than most and now it's back to normal.

BenDover
06-07-06, 07:25 PM
Yup, DNS is configured to point to my router, just like all the other devices on my network. I'm pretty certain it's not a network issue. I've already done all the troubleshooting like switching wires with my working 360, turning off firewalls, putting the DVD player wide open in the DMZ.

i'm not sure i unerstand what you mean by points to your router and maybe it is what i mean, but what the toshiba needs is the dns server number that your isp provides you...so you would see these numbers assigned via dhcp by your isp to your cable modem/router...you then plug one of those numbers (mine usually gets three dns server numbers from my optonline isp) into the toshiba...unless, you have your router set up as a dhcp server and then i guess it should automatically grab it from the router (maybe that is what you mean by points to router)...but you may want to manually enter a dns number if you are having problems just to confirm.

BenDover
06-07-06, 07:27 PM
the player powers off after 20 min. of inactivity, fyi

that is actually an option that i do not have enabled so i believe part of the upgrade simply shut down the player and didn't restart it automatically...can anyone confirm this who did an attended upgrade via the internet...i did an unattended upgrade :)

LeeS
06-07-06, 09:19 PM
I upgraded my XA1 with yorkie2k's upload. Burned to CD-R with Nero and upgraded w/out issue.

My XA1 is connected to my broadband router and when I updated it said I was already updated (1.2).

I'm HDMI > DVI and I don't pass BTB. I don't see any difference in PQ, still looks amazing.

I'm hoping that the BTB and colorspace issues are something they can fix for us DVI guys.

I only had problems with Van Helsing skipping. Now it plays fine. I was always able to play burned DVD-R and DVD+R DL. No issues with factory DVDs.

I sent in the card early, it will be nice just to have an 'official' copy of the firmware update, I believe yorkie's is the 'official' version. (and thanks for sharing with us :) )

BigMikeATL
06-07-06, 09:38 PM
Does anybody have the HD-A1 with RCA logo during boot? My unit will not download the new firmware, it errors out with "VUP Error 123" every single time. It's not a problem with my network as I can ping the player from my iMac. I know it has a good connection out to the internet.

I'm just thinking that it won't install the Toshiba firmware because maybe it thinks my player is an RCA. I have one of those freak players that shows an RCA logo during boot when in fact it is a Toshiba HD-A1. Just wondering if anybody else has this problem or has seen this error number. Thanks.
Nope. Since the internal hardware is the same for all the current HD DVD players, I would presume that the main components all come from the same factory. With that said, your unit almost certainly has the wrong firmware loaded.

There is probably a flag which indicates the maufacturer. Since the update doesn't match, it it rejected by the player.

You'll probably have to wait until RCA releases an update.

Another thought is that your router might be blocking a port that the player needs to complete the download request. Have you tried turning off your router's firewall before downloading the update?

Worst case, call Toshiba tech support and explain the situation. They may have a workaround.

k.berger
06-07-06, 09:58 PM
Hi everyone,
for those of you having throuble updating online, here is link to site which among other files, has for download latest Toshiba HD-A1/HD-XA1/HD-D1 firmware:

http://hdtv.kbenterprises.com/

Enjoy,

Kris

K.G.
06-07-06, 10:05 PM
When I connect for the upgrade for HD-XA-1, I am getting an error msg :
VUP ERROR 133. What is that ?.Please help ...

K.G.

K.G.
06-07-06, 10:07 PM
What is VUP error 133 ?.

PFC5
06-07-06, 10:32 PM
Does anybody have the HD-A1 with RCA logo during boot? My unit will not download the new firmware, it errors out with "VUP Error 123" every single time. It's not a problem with my network as I can ping the player from my iMac. I know it has a good connection out to the internet.

I'm just thinking that it won't install the Toshiba firmware because maybe it thinks my player is an RCA. I have one of those freak players that shows an RCA logo during boot when in fact it is a Toshiba HD-A1. Just wondering if anybody else has this problem or has seen this error number. Thanks.

I have a HD-A1 in all respects except that it shows the RCA logo on boot up, AND the upgrade license agreement is for Thompson NOT Toshiba.

I called Toshiba and they are sending me a disc to solve the problem and change it completely to a Toshiba player. I tried to pin him down as to what the "VUP ERROR 123" code meant, but he just said that when he mentioned the error code to a tech, they said to send a certain disc to resolve it. I asked if it would resolve the problem with direct download of future updates so the internet connection works, and he said yes.

Mine is coming early next week so I will report how well it works. You should call them to get the firmware disc shipped to you. They refused to send it even 2 day mail, even after I threatened to return it and wait for a BD player if they didn't get it to me right away. I guess I am not a very good liar, and he didn't believe me. :D

tboo
06-07-06, 10:32 PM
Im using HDMI to HDMI and even after the update Im still not getting the A1 to pass BTB

PFC5
06-07-06, 10:46 PM
Im using HDMI to HDMI and even after the update Im still not getting the A1 to pass BTB

What HDTV do you have? Some HDTVs clip BTB & WTW so it will never show. I KNOW that the LG 44SZ65D that I returned DID clip BTB, but I returned it and 5 other attempts at owning one because they all had problems.

PFC5
06-07-06, 10:49 PM
Hi everyone,
for those of you having throuble updating online, here is link to site which among other files, has for download latest Toshiba HD-A1/HD-XA1/HD-D1 firmware:

http://hdtv.kbenterprises.com/

Enjoy,

Kris

How fast or slow is that sever? I have a 6Mbps download speed and it is saying 13+ hours and only downloaded 249kb of the InHD test after 3 minutes and stalled.

Is everyone else downloading and causing the slowdown?

Which is the version of INHD that could be burned to a standard DVD?

Thanks!

CJArciola, III
06-07-06, 11:05 PM
When I connect for the upgrade for HD-XA-1, I am getting an error msg :
VUP ERROR 133. What is that ?.Please help ...

K.G.
Ethernet connection in the player may not be set up properly. Go to ethernet and turn on DNS and DHCP. (check the manual under ethernet connection and this will make more sense) This may be the problem.

Grody
06-07-06, 11:06 PM
I've held off on the HD-DVD because I read that we when you change inputs, you have to reboot the player and start the movie from the beginning.

I'm always switching inputs between the 360, PVR, and the DVD player, and sometimes it takes me a week to finish watching a movie.

So does this update fix that? Can I pause a movie, switch to another input to watch TV, then switch back and just continue watching from where I left off?

Thanks

web
06-07-06, 11:19 PM
...I'm HDMI > DVI and I don't pass BTB. I don't see any difference in PQ, still looks amazing.

I'm hoping that the BTB and colorspace issues are something they can fix for us DVI guys...
I am using HDMI-DVI and after updating the firmware, BTB is now being passed. With the initial firmware, the drop shadow on the THX optimizer test was not visible. After the update, the drop shadow and all of the boxes are visible.

web

digitalfx
06-07-06, 11:19 PM
I've held off on the HD-DVD because I read that we when you change inputs, you have to reboot the player and start the movie from the beginning.

I'm always switching inputs between the 360, PVR, and the DVD player, and sometimes it takes me a week to finish watching a movie.

So does this update fix that? Can I pause a movie, switch to another input to watch TV, then switch back and just continue watching from where I left off?

Thanks

Most new HD-DVD's have a bookmark feature where you can bookmark numerous places in the movie, and then go right back to them at a later date.

k.berger
06-07-06, 11:48 PM
How fast or slow is that sever? I have a 6Mbps download speed and it is saying 13+ hours and only downloaded 249kb of the InHD test after 3 minutes and stalled.

Is everyone else downloading and causing the slowdown?

Which is the version of INHD that could be burned to a standard DVD?

Thanks!

It's somewhere in this same neighborhood (4 - 6 Mb/s), I see continuous activity... hence slowdowns, I guess. The file you are looking for has extension .img (original, it's zipped, so it will be .zip of course), it's marked accordingly on the list.

Enjoy,

Kris

Grody
06-08-06, 12:15 AM
Most new HD-DVD's have a bookmark feature where you can bookmark numerous places in the movie, and then go right back to them at a later date.

But if I pause the movie, switch inputs, then switch back to to the movie does the player lock-up or give me an error, forcing me to reboot?

Being able to bookmark the movie would help a bit, but it will still be annoying to have to restart the player all the time, because I'm always cycling through the inputs.

tboo
06-08-06, 06:37 AM
What HDTV do you have? Some HDTVs clip BTB & WTW so it will never show. I KNOW that the LG 44SZ65D that I returned DID clip BTB, but I returned it and 5 other attempts at owning one because they all had problems.

A Mitsubishi wd-52628.

It passed BTB with my previous dvd player(Denon 2910)

LeeS
06-08-06, 06:41 AM
I am using HDMI-DVI and after updating the firmware, BTB is now being passed. With the initial firmware, the drop shadow on the THX optimizer test was not visible. After the update, the drop shadow and all of the boxes are visible.

web

Web,

What is your display? Mine is an Infocus 7200 clone. Maybe its just a little too old but at least I can run HDMI > DVI.

Big J
06-08-06, 07:30 AM
Hi everyone,
for those of you having throuble updating online, here is link to site which among other files, has for download latest Toshiba HD-A1/HD-XA1/HD-D1 firmware:

http://hdtv.kbenterprises.com/

Enjoy,

Kris
How is that different than the other one that was available here? Has it been approved by Toshiba? If not, then people may wish to wait for an official copy.
J

calikarim
06-08-06, 07:47 AM
I ordered the disc, but was impatient, and got my ethernet cable from my xbox 360 and plugged in to Toshiba X-A 1. Download worked like charm, didn't have to type in my ip adress, found it from router itself, after typing dhp, dns number. I am amazed, took 30 minutes got full download.

No more hdmi switching errors, i tried cable i couldn't use before cause they gave error they all work now,. Also the picture is sharper. Riddick is like Training Day before, very focused. Less grain. However, color saturation is a little less vivid, and color tones more natural. Much better picture.

Now toshiba can sell these units like wildfire. No more bad press.


My disc is also on its way, i wont need it no more.

Viva Hd dvd. Blue ray rest in peace

BenDover
06-08-06, 08:35 AM
grody, changing inputs doesn't 'lockup', or force you to 'reboot'' the player. at worst, at least with the old firmware (i haven't thought to try this out and only experienced it initially when i first got the player and was doing a/b comparisons; when i start a movie i'm in it for the duration, unless i or a family member has bad bladder timing :)), you simply push play again and start from the begininning. i think someone posted that the new firmware alters this behavior but i'll want to check for myself to confirm.

joerod
06-08-06, 08:39 AM
Has anyone else noticed their picture quality get better with the firmware upgrade?

k.berger
06-08-06, 08:40 AM
How is that different than the other one that was available here? Has it been approved by Toshiba? If not, then people may wish to wait for an official copy.
J

It's the same, "UNOFFICIAL", copy floating around here on few other treads. It's been tested by many people,and seems to be OK, but of course I can't take responsibility... (even though I used it on my A1 without any problems).
I am just providing space and access for those who want it,

Kris

Big J
06-08-06, 08:48 AM
It's the same, "UNOFFICIAL", copy floating around here on few other treads. It's been tested by many people,and seems to be OK, but of course I can't take responsibility... (even though I used it on my A1 without any problems).
I am just providing space and access for those who want it,

Kris
I and others have had problems with it. I recomend people get an OFFICIAL version.
J

joerod
06-08-06, 08:51 AM
I appreciate them trying to get them out in a hurry, but I will wait until I get a disc in my hand from Toshiba. I would rather be safe than sorry... ;)

CJArciola, III
06-08-06, 09:28 AM
Most new HD-DVD's have a bookmark feature where you can bookmark numerous places in the movie, and then go right back to them at a later date.
I believe it's only Warner titles that have the bookmark feature.

Shawn C
06-08-06, 09:39 AM
I have an interesting issue with my XA1 after the update. The XA1 has the motorized door. Well, I used to be able to press the "Door" button while the tray was out and the player would retract the tray back into the player and then close the door. Now, when I press the door button with the tray out, it just smacks the bottom of the tray........

Oh, and I wasn't having any troubles with my player until the update came out. 1/3 of the way through U-571, I got an audio dropout and the audio was 1/2 second behind the video. I paused, played, and it was in sync again.

Tango22
06-08-06, 09:42 AM
I have an interesting issue with my XA1 after the update. The XA1 has the motorized door. Well, I used to be able to press the "Door" button while the tray was out and the player would retract the tray back into the player and then close the door. Now, when I press the door button with the tray out, it just smacks the bottom of the tray........

Oh, and I wasn't having any troubles with my player until the update came out. 1/3 of the way through U-571, I got an audio dropout and the audio was 1/2 second behind the video. I paused, played, and it was in sync again.

My XA1 still functions like that after the update. Door button retracts tray and closes door.

BillY2KFRC
06-08-06, 09:54 AM
Update worked great for me. I didn't have any lockups before, but I figured I'd do it anyway just to be up to date. Took the ethernet wire from my Xbox 360, set DHCP and DNS to 'on' and it connected right up, took about 45 minutes. I do now have BTB from THX Optimizer over HDMI, which I did not get before. I ended up setting my brightness 2 notches higher because of this and I think the picture may look a little better than before. Having the lights off really brings out the amazing details.

Now Toshiba, bring on the update that gives us multi channel Dolby True-HD!!! :)

alfbinet
06-08-06, 10:51 AM
A Mitsubishi wd-52628.

It passed BTB with my previous dvd player(Denon 2910)

I have the same Mits and it is not passing BTB after update.

Shawn C
06-08-06, 11:47 AM
My XA1 still functions like that after the update. Door button retracts tray and closes door.

Weird. Maybe it was just an issue of timing. I will give it another try tonight.

Thomas Marshall
06-08-06, 11:59 AM
So, lots of talk about how to do the update (hopefully everyone has that down by now) and not so much on the result of the firmware upgrade. I would love to see more feedback on the results side of things.

FYI - I upgraded my unit using the Toshiba on-line download:

The good news on my upgrade is: I watched two movies yesterday (Jarhwead and Cinderella Man) and there were no freezes or audio drop outs. Hopefully this will continue as a pattern.

No change in PQ, it remains simply stunning :)

The bad news on my upgrade: The load time for a movie to start playing has significantly increased (was about 40 seconds, and now it's about 80 seconds), and the remote commands are slower to respond as well).

I suppose if the unit no longer freezes up this would be a worth while trade, but it is a little disappointing to me.

All I can say is Toshiba better get all these problems ironed out before Blu-ray hits the market. The Toshiba is so funky with it's operation that my wife and son refuse to use it, they switch back to my Pioneer DVD when they play SD-DVD's and if they want to see an HD movie they ask me to operate the unit. To my family the A1 is a piece of junk :(

So, needless to say if the new Blu-ray unit functions like a "Normal" DVD it will become the go to unit for my family unless Toshiba turns these issues around.


Has anyone else noticed their picture quality get better with the firmware upgrade?
IMO this depends on the display you're using and/or how it's connected.

In my case the PQ is exactly the same after the firmware update (before and after doing the "Initialization" step as well).

My display is a Qualia 004, the picture was stunning right from the start and nothing has changed in that regard.

ricwhite
06-08-06, 12:01 PM
Update worked great for me. . .set DHCP and DNS to 'on' and it connected right up, took about 45 minutes.

I have my ethernet connected to the Xbox 360 in other other room. Can somebody explain what DHCP and DNS set to "on" means? Won't the download work if I just unplug my cable from the 360 and plug it into the HD DVD player and it can then access the internet?

If not, somebody help me understand how to "set" the DHCP and DNS which I have no idea about. Thanks

Thomas Marshall
06-08-06, 12:12 PM
I have my ethernet connected to the Xbox 360 in other other room. Can somebody explain what DHCP and DNS set to "on" means? Won't the download work if I just unplug my cable from the 360 and plug it into the HD DVD player and it can then access the internet?

If not, somebody help me understand how to "set" the DHCP and DNS which I have no idea about. Thanks

First read the manual because it clearly describes the steps for setting DHCP and DNS.

In theory your idea should work fine, by unplugging the ethernet cable and plugging it into the HD-DVD and setting the DHCP and DNS to "yes" it should pick up the IP address and other information it needs, if not ,there are instructions on how to manually load the information in the manual. Also, depending on your service provider there may be other related issues that will stop this process from working automatically, the manual clearly disclaims this (generally recommends you contact the Internet service provider for support).

For me it was plug and play, re-read the manual and give it another try and see what happens, and good luck :)

Signia
06-08-06, 12:32 PM
Does this player still only upconvert through HDMI or does the update change that to also upconvert throught component?

gosawx
06-08-06, 12:45 PM
Does this player still only upconvert through HDMI or does the update change that to also upconvert throught component?


AACS will not allow upconvering through component, it's not a firmware issue. This is true for just about any player

Signia
06-08-06, 12:47 PM
Thanks for clarifing.

sharpmibo
06-08-06, 12:53 PM
I have my ethernet connected to the Xbox 360 in other other room. Can somebody explain what DHCP and DNS set to "on" means? Won't the download work if I just unplug my cable from the 360 and plug it into the HD DVD player and it can then access the internet?

If not, somebody help me understand how to "set" the DHCP and DNS which I have no idea about. Thanks

DHCP on allows your router to provide ip address to the Toshiba and DNS on allows name resolution. Turning both on should allow you to proceed with the upgrade unless you need to deal with a proxy server. In that case you made need to contact you ISP for assistance.

For me dhcp and dns on worked imediately. Good luck.

Teisco
06-08-06, 02:43 PM
One thing you must do to make this connection work is to first unplug your cable modem from ac, turn off your hddvd player also. With your hddvd player off plug in the cable modem cable. Plug your cable modem back in and when all lights are on except the traffic light turn on your hddvd player and then do the set up.

That is the only way it worked for me, of course I have mine hooked up to pc and by turning it off it clears the ip address.

ahro
06-08-06, 02:54 PM
You should just be able to plug into the ethernet port on the player. Then turn the player on and provided that DHCP and DNS are on, it should work.

bobgpsr
06-08-06, 03:10 PM
One thing you must do to make this connection work is to first unplug your cable modem from ac, turn off your hddvd player also. With your hddvd player off plug in the cable modem cable. Plug your cable modem back in and when all lights are on except the traffic light turn on your hddvd player and then do the set up.

That is the only way it worked for me, of course I have mine hooked up to pc and by turning it off it clears the ip address.


I have two PCs and the HD-XA1 connected to a router then a cable modem using Mediacom (bet its the same ISP as yours) and did not have to do anything like that. Just simple Setup the DHCP on and DNS on and away it went.

Bob

Macroblocker
06-08-06, 04:13 PM
I and others have had problems with it. I recomend people get an OFFICIAL version.
J

I used it and havent had problems with it but i wanted to DL the official version and the player wouldnt let me :( can you force it? do ya really have to?

terabeast
06-08-06, 05:25 PM
I have a HD-A1 in all respects except that it shows the RCA logo on boot up, AND the upgrade license agreement is for Thompson NOT Toshiba.

I called Toshiba and they are sending me a disc to solve the problem and change it completely to a Toshiba player. I tried to pin him down as to what the "VUP ERROR 123" code meant, but he just said that when he mentioned the error code to a tech, they said to send a certain disc to resolve it. I asked if it would resolve the problem with direct download of future updates so the internet connection works, and he said yes.

Mine is coming early next week so I will report how well it works. You should call them to get the firmware disc shipped to you. They refused to send it even 2 day mail, even after I threatened to return it and wait for a BD player if they didn't get it to me right away. I guess I am not a very good liar, and he didn't believe me. :D

I'm glad that is the issue. I'm having the exact same problem. I get the Thompson license agreement along with the RCA logo at boot up. I wonder if they are just going to send you the same firmware disc that everyone else is going to get, or if it is specialized somehow. Either way, I mailed the card out yesterday to receive the disc by mail. Hopefully it is the same disc you get. I'm in no hurry as I haven't had any problems with my player yet. Let us know either way.

BenDover
06-08-06, 05:51 PM
I have two PCs and the HD-XA1 connected to a router then a cable modem using Mediacom (bet its the same ISP as yours) and did not have to do anything like that. Just simple Setup the DHCP on and DNS on and away it went.

Bob

it appears that teisco doesn't have a router b/c his description describes plugging the player directly into the cable modem...

Teisco
06-08-06, 05:57 PM
Yup, no router. If you have a router your in good shape, just hook it up, but if you just go directly into your pc than you will have to re-set the ip.

dvdchild
06-08-06, 06:02 PM
Hi Guys,

New to the board and wonder if anyone can advise

Just got my AX1 today and played fine. Updated firmware via Ethernet port and firmware upgraded ok and machine switched itself off. Went back to player 30 mins later and switched on and alli get is WELCOME on the front display.
Pressing remote just make machine beep and nothing else.
I have powered it off and left it for a few hours and tried again but same thing.
Is this player knackered (as we british like to call it)

I really hope not as I live in the UK and it was imported from **************** in NY and i hope i don't have to ship it back there.

DVDCHILD

tboo
06-08-06, 06:07 PM
I have the same Mits and it is not passing BTB after update.


Thats weird. I wonder what is up with our sets?

hawkeye3.1
06-08-06, 06:08 PM
Try resetting by pressing the Power button until the unit powers off.

Dmitry
06-08-06, 06:33 PM
Hi Guys,

New to the board and wonder if anyone can advise

Just got my AX1 today and played fine. Updated firmware via Ethernet port and firmware upgraded ok and machine switched itself off. Went back to player 30 mins later and switched on and alli get is WELCOME on the front display.
Pressing remote just make machine beep and nothing else.I have powered it off and left it for a few hours and tried again but same thing.
Is this player knackered (as we british like to call it)

I really hope not as I live in the UK and it was imported from **************** in NY and i hope i don't have to ship it back there.

DVDCHILD

How long are you waiting? After the update the bootup time increased dramatically, I would wait full two minutes before trying to run out of patience ;)

dvdchild
06-08-06, 06:39 PM
i have left it off for a couple of hours and tried it again left it about 5 mins and nothing happens apart from the WELCOME on the front display

bferr1
06-08-06, 06:50 PM
Thats weird. I wonder what is up with our sets?
alfbinet and tboo, check this out: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7768854&&#post7768854

I have a Mitsubishi WD-52725, and I am also not seeing BTB over HDMI post-update, but could see BTB with other DVD players that I've tried.

david taylor
06-08-06, 07:54 PM
i have left it off for a couple of hours and tried it again left it about 5 mins and nothing happens apart from the WELCOME on the front display

Did you change the output back to HDMI?

Dmitry
06-08-06, 08:08 PM
Did you change the output back to HDMI?

Even without that the front display should change to LOADING at some point, followed by NO DISC when empty and some disc menu display if there was one. Five minutes for WELCOME is way too long, IMHO.

milachy
06-08-06, 09:25 PM
Hi Guys,

New to the board and wonder if anyone can advise

Just got my AX1 today and played fine. Updated firmware via Ethernet port and firmware upgraded ok and machine switched itself off. Went back to player 30 mins later and switched on and alli get is WELCOME on the front display.
Pressing remote just make machine beep and nothing else.
I have powered it off and left it for a few hours and tried again but same thing.
Is this player knackered (as we british like to call it)

I really hope not as I live in the UK and it was imported from **************** in NY and i hope i don't have to ship it back there.

DVDCHILD


I had a similar problem and I have NOT updated the firmware.This happened with the dvd player on and not recognizing ANY commands from the remote or by pressing a button on the player itself.I simply unplugged the A1 waited a few seconds and then plugged it back in. No more problems..

If we can all remember that this IS a computer and treat it like such perhaps we can use the same solutions to solve some of the problems.The dang thing just needed to reboot.

Other than that I have had no problems with the player. Thats part of the reason I will not update the firmwear at this time.Nothing is broke on the machine so why should I fix it?
If the next patch comes available that has something that I might be interested in updateing then I will.

Hows everything over on your side of the big pond?

mypepper
06-08-06, 10:08 PM
Installed the firmware last night via the ethernet and it only took about 30 minutes or less. The only problem I had prior to the upgrade, was trying to play Van Helsing from Netflix. The freezing and lock-ups were so bad, I shut off the movie about half way into the movie. When checking the disk, I was amazed how poor the condition of the disk was for only being in the rental circulation for about one month. When watching U-571 from Netflix, I had one freeze during the ending credits of the movie.

After the upgrade, I now see the official HD-DVD startup screen, where before the upgrade, I never saw this screen. The picture is incredibly clear on my JVC LT40FH96 LCD and the sound quality is outstanding. Even the standard DVD's look amazing.

All in all, the Toshiba HD-A1 is one remarkable machine, even if it has some minor bugs.

Andy Pennell
06-08-06, 11:52 PM
For me non-anamorphic widescreen DVDs (e.g. Abyss Special Edition, Little Mermaid II) still don't play correctly. They have a black border around all four sides. This is via 1080i over HDMI to a PT 900EU to a 16:9 screen.

I was hoping the firmware update would help, but this aspect is unchanged.

Anamorphic WS (e.g Gladiator) run fine, and the other discs play fine on the same PJ but different player (via component 480p).

Is this just me?

Hunter67
06-09-06, 12:39 AM
For me non-anamorphic widescreen DVDs (e.g. Abyss Special Edition, Little Mermaid II) still don't play correctly. They have a black border around all four sides. This is via 1080i over HDMI to a PT 900EU to a 16:9 screen.

I was hoping the firmware update would help, but this aspect is unchanged.

Anamorphic WS (e.g Gladiator) run fine, and the other discs play fine on the same PJ but different player (via component 480p).

Is this just me?

Andy since it's not a anamorphic DVD then it is displaying it correctly, if it's not a 16:9 DVD then the Toshiba outputs 4:3 since that is the correct aspect ratio, it sounds like you want it to stretch the 4:3 picture. I'm not sure if that is a option on the Toshiba HD DVD.

musicelect
06-09-06, 03:25 AM
FYI, my new HD-A1 came with the new firmware installed.

Ordered from ABT Electronics on June 2nd.
Received on June 8th.
I believe it was part of a large shipment they received from Toshiba on June 1st.

The date on the back of the unit says "May 2006 CR".

The very first HD disc I played (U-571) took ~75 seconds from when the door closed to first video on-screen.

rwestley
06-09-06, 06:30 AM
Musicelect, I bet that was the reason why the HD-A1's were in short supply for a few weeks. Toshiba, it seems, wanted to get some of the problems resolved before shipping any more units.

joerod
06-09-06, 07:23 AM
That's very good to hear... :)

TWD
06-09-06, 07:46 AM
"Musicelect, I bet that was the reason why the HD-A1's were in short supply for a few weeks. Toshiba, it seems, wanted to get some of the problems resolved before shipping any more units."

I thought this too. However, I just got an HD-A1 with a May 06 MFG date and the SW is not upgraded.

Big J
06-09-06, 08:01 AM
"Musicelect, I bet that was the reason why the HD-A1's were in short supply for a few weeks. Toshiba, it seems, wanted to get some of the problems resolved before shipping any more units."

I thought this too. However, I just got an HD-A1 with a May 06 MFG date and the SW is not upgraded.

Same here.
J

joerod
06-09-06, 08:14 AM
bummer...

alfbinet
06-09-06, 08:33 AM
alfbinet and tboo, check this out: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7768854&&#post7768854

I have a Mitsubishi WD-52725, and I am also not seeing BTB over HDMI post-update, but could see BTB with other DVD players that I've tried.

Interesting, I have an Oppo and a Denon 3910 DVD hooked up to the Mits and both of them passed the BTB tests using THX Optimizer and the Digital Video Essentials pluge pattern. Not the Tosh though.

alfbinet
06-09-06, 08:39 AM
And both the OPPo and Denon are connected to my Mits via HDMI through a Monoprice 5x1 HDMI switch to HDMI input #1 on the Mits passing BTB without any problems.

rob316
06-09-06, 08:46 AM
Dumb question everyone keeps talking about BTB what is BTB?

Rob

Big J
06-09-06, 08:59 AM
Dumb question everyone keeps talking about BTB what is BTB?

Rob

BTB is Blacker Than Black. Others can give you a more technical eplaination, but it basically is the blackest black (if that makes sense) that you can get.
J

TAllen01
06-09-06, 09:51 AM
Next dumb/noob question: I did the update via the file I downloaded off the internet. Now, how do I find out what firmware I am now running to see if it took?

Chris J
06-09-06, 10:02 AM
Is there anything on the screen on your TV that indicates the update is working? My TV screen went black.

kevivoe
06-09-06, 10:05 AM
Is there anything on the screen on your TV that indicates the update is working? My TV screen went black.

You may have to change from the default output using V OUT button after firmware update.

kevivoe
06-09-06, 10:06 AM
Next dumb/noob question: I did the update via the file I downloaded off the internet. Now, how do I find out what firmware I am now running to see if it took?

Check the revision in the maintainance menu.

Thomas Marshall
06-09-06, 10:48 AM
[QUOTE=Chris J]Is there anything on the screen on your TV that indicates the update is working? My TV screen went black.[/QUOT

Yes, while the update is occurring there is a message on your display screen that says something like this; "Update taking place do not turn off player".

Also, while the update is taking place your DVD display window will show the % of completion in increments of 10.

It should not be necessary to hit the V-OUT command unless you took the "Initialization" step following the firmware update, then you need to hit V-OUT to get the picture back on your display screen because all your custom settings were reset to factory defaults.

PFC5
06-09-06, 11:36 AM
And both the OPPo and Denon are connected to my Mits via HDMI through a Monoprice 5x1 HDMI switch to HDMI input #1 on the Mits passing BTB without any problems.

The Oppo is DVI though, unless you just bought the new lower model that does have an HDMI output.

Chris J
06-09-06, 12:48 PM
[QUOTE=Chris J]Is there anything on the screen on your TV that indicates the update is working? My TV screen went black.[/QUOT

Yes, while the update is occurring there is a message on your display screen that says something like this; "Update taking place do not turn off player".

Also, while the update is taking place your DVD display window will show the % of completion in increments of 10.

It should not be necessary to hit the V-OUT command unless you took the "Initialization" step following the firmware update, then you need to hit V-OUT to get the picture back on your display screen because all your custom settings were reset to factory defaults.


Thanks.. So it looks like it didn't update after all.

ahro
06-09-06, 01:37 PM
[QUOTE=Thomas Marshall]


Thanks.. So it looks like it didn't update after all.

I don't think that's right. After the update, it defaults to the component. You must toggle to HDMI. That's why you are seeing a blank screen.

Thomas Marshall
06-09-06, 01:43 PM
[QUOTE=Chris J]

I don't think that's right. After the update, it defaults to the component. You must toggle to HDMI. That's why you are seeing a blank screen.

He never saw anythig to indicate the update took place which suggests it didn't.

Thomas Marshall
06-09-06, 01:57 PM
[QUOTE=Thomas Marshall]
Thanks.. So it looks like it didn't update after all.

All you need to do to verify that it worked or not is to check your release number. If it's the same as when you started then no update took place.

The update is a two step process:

1 - The Internet setup (DHCP and DNS to "yes"), so verify the IP address and name resolution fields are loaded after setting the switches to "Yes" (should happen automatically).

2- The update process which takes place from the maintenance menu. Select the update option and the next thing you should see is a full screen with the disclaimer contract that you need to select "ok" on. Be careful because just hitting the enter button on the remote will select the "Cancel" option. You need to toggle over to "ok" (should be highlighted in yellow) and then press enter. At that point the message comes up on your display screen noting the update is in progress.

Chris J
06-09-06, 02:03 PM
[QUOTE=Chris J]

All you need to do to verify that it worked or not is to check your release number. If it's the same as when you started then no update took place.

The update is a two step process:

1 - The Internet setup (DHCP and DNS to "yes"), so verify the IP address and name resolution fields are loaded after setting the switches to "Yes" (should happen automatically).

2- The update process which takes place from the maintenance menu. Select the update option and the next thing you should see is a full screen with the disclaimer contract that you need to select "ok" on. Be careful because just hitting the enter button on the remote will select the "Cancel" option. You need to toggle over to "ok" (should be highlighted in yellow) and then press enter. At that point the message comes up on your display screen noting the update is in progress.


Ok, after clicking ok on the contract this message came up after it tried to download the update.


"Can not find out server" on the TV screen

&

"VUP Error 121" on the DVD Player.

kevivoe
06-09-06, 02:19 PM
[QUOTE=Thomas Marshall]


Ok, after clicking ok on the contract this message came up after it tried to download the update.


"Can not find out server" on the TV screen

&

"VUP Error 121" on the DVD Player.

I had this error also. I have a broadband modem ---> router ---> 8 port switch ---> HD-A1.

I had to go from the router directly to the HD-A1 to get past this error.

k

rwestley
06-09-06, 02:21 PM
You can still use the HD-A1 with a router. You must set the IP address yourself. It does not seem to work on the auto setting. Get the IP address from your router.

Chris J
06-09-06, 02:39 PM
[QUOTE=Chris J]

I had this error also. I have a broadband modem ---> router ---> 8 port switch ---> HD-A1.

I had to go from the router directly to the HD-A1 to get past this error.

k


I C.... I'm wireless and don't have a router....

joerod
06-09-06, 02:47 PM
I just hope they get a move on with those discs... :)

alfbinet
06-09-06, 03:03 PM
The Oppo is DVI though, unless you just bought the new lower model that does have an HDMI output.

You are correct but they supplied me with a cable with DVI on one end and HDMI on the other. The Denon, however, is strictly HDMI to HDMI.

Thomas Marshall
06-09-06, 03:21 PM
Hi everyone,
for those of you having throuble updating online, here is link to site which among other files, has for download latest Toshiba HD-A1/HD-XA1/HD-D1 firmware:

http://hdtv.kbenterprises.com/

Enjoy,

Kris
Hey Chris J, you may want to try this and see what happens :)

kevivoe
06-09-06, 03:26 PM
[QUOTE=kevivoe]


I C.... I'm wireless and don't have a router....


Wireless to what? The HD-A1 is a hard wire connection to either a switch or a router ... or your modem. Our modem has a wireless output and an Ethernet wired output.

You have wireless internet access?

joerod
06-09-06, 04:05 PM
I just received an email from Toshiba saying the firmware disc is on its way (unlessit already arrived)... This is very good news. I like the fact that they even sent me an email letting me know. Good C.S.! :)

hawkeye3.1
06-09-06, 04:12 PM
[QUOTE=Chris J]


Wireless to what?

You can connect with a wireless ethernet bridge, wireless internet game adapter (same thing), or by sharing the internet connection through a wireless laptop.

tboo
06-09-06, 10:27 PM
alfbinet and tboo, check this out: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7768854&&#post7768854

I have a Mitsubishi WD-52725, and I am also not seeing BTB over HDMI post-update, but could see BTB with other DVD players that I've tried.


Call me a moron, but does the above link provide an answer on why I cant pass BTB?

bferr1
06-09-06, 10:40 PM
Call me a moron, but does the above link provide an answer on why I cant pass BTB?
Yes... I think.

Thistledown
06-09-06, 10:50 PM
I'm having the exact same problem as dvdchild. I am really upset about it. The update ran for 40 min or so, then the player turned off. I turned on my HD-A1, and all it does is say WELCOME whether I leave it for 5 min or 15 min. I've try powering it off and back and by unplugging the device or holding down the power button, but the result is the same.

The worst part is I left a DVD in the player, and I have no idea how to get it out. It's a Netflix DVD, and I need to get it out. Any suggestions?

Well, maybe that isn't the worst part. The worst part would be that support is only open M-F.

Robert D
06-09-06, 10:55 PM
I'm having the exact same problem as dvdchild. I am really upset about it. The update ran for 40 min or so, then the player turned off. I turned on my HD-A1, and all it does is say WELCOME whether I leave it for 5 min or 15 min. I've try powering it off and back and by unplugging the device or holding down the power button, but the result is the same.

The worst part is I left a DVD in the player, and I have no idea how to get it out. It's a Netflix DVD, and I need to get it out. Any suggestions?

Well, maybe that isn't the worst part. The worst part would be that support is only open M-F.

The update resets the player to factory defaults of component video out and I think 480i resolution. I had to use the v-out on the remote to set my player back to hdmi out and change the resolution back to 1080i to get the picture back.

There should be a small hole on the players drive so use a paper clip to manually open the tray.

Thistledown
06-09-06, 10:57 PM
Thanks. I'll check for the small hole. I've tried changing the video resolution, but it doesn't seem to work.. No matter what button I press on the remote or on the player itself, the player just beeps at me. The only thing that seems to work is to hold the power button in for 10-11 seconds to shut the machine off.

Thistledown
06-09-06, 11:04 PM
I was able to get the disc out by opening up the flap that covers the dvd tray and using a paperclip to open the tray itself. Good call. Thanks.

Unless I see some other suggestions for progressing past WELCOME, I'll wait until Monday to call it in.

Robert D
06-09-06, 11:05 PM
Thanks. I'll check for the small hole. I've tried changing the video resolution, but it doesn't seem to work.. No matter what button I press on the remote or on the player itself, the player just beeps at me. The only thing that seems to work is to hold the power button in for 10-11 seconds to shut the machine off.

I just looked and you have to pull down the try door by hand and the manual tray release is located on the lower right corner of the drive.

rwestley
06-10-06, 03:14 PM
I just got off the phone with Toshiba and the rep was surprised that there are two different updates. He did not know anything about it. Could someone who received their update today please post it on one of the upload sites. The like that has been posted does not work.

BOBZILLA1968
06-10-06, 04:10 PM
I will tell you why the front line Toshiba CS rep was surprised.......... Because they don't know anything about anything........... I think they are there just to take notes on your problems and thats it. I don't think they are told anything of importance to be honest.

joerod
06-10-06, 04:13 PM
Toshiba reps are not pertinent to senstive knowledge. I knew that when I called them for my HD DEMO disc. You have to always have the operator direct you to the right department. Their marketing department seems to be the easiest way to get good info... ;) And get stuff sent to you! :)

CD_14
06-10-06, 10:41 PM
I tried several times too, with the dynamic IP setting. But it couldn't fined the server. I changed it to a static IP that's in the same range as my router and it connected. You might need the DNS info from your router/cable modem if it doesn't connect by IP.

davidcrowe
06-11-06, 07:07 AM
[QUOTE=Chris J]

I had this error also. I have a broadband modem ---> router ---> 8 port switch ---> HD-A1.

I had to go from the router directly to the HD-A1 to get past this error.

k

Make sure you enable DNS. It will work while plugged into your router.

Dave

orsantian
06-11-06, 08:01 AM
When you initialize the player after the update,is there any prompts telling you its initializing? And how long does the initialize last?I did the update and got a softer picture.Then when I initialized the player it was instantaneous and i received no prompts...just a blank input screen.My picture is still soft and i'm hoping its because I still haven't initialized it.

plazman
06-11-06, 08:20 AM
When you initialize the player after the update,is there any prompts telling you its initializing? And how long does the initialize last?I did the update and got a softer picture.Then when I initialized the player it was instantaneous and i received no prompts...just a blank input screen.My picture is still soft and i'm hoping its because I still haven't initialized it.

After updating you will need to remove the player from the power supply for 30-40 seconds until the red light goes off.

Then after you power it back up you should initialize it. Your picture if anything should be sharper.

BenDover
06-11-06, 08:22 AM
I just got off the phone with Toshiba and the rep was surprised that there are two different updates. He did not know anything about it. Could someone who received their update today please post it on one of the upload sites. The like that has been posted does not work.

two different updates? did i miss something?

BenDover
06-11-06, 08:27 AM
fyi, i had a glitch, post-upgrade, when watching constantine...nothing requiring my intervention, but the picture/sound stuttered for a split second or two.

orsantian
06-11-06, 08:40 AM
I did do the 30 sec unplug before i had initialized it.For some reason my picture is definately softer.I have watched that warner brothers demo at the beginning of there discs many times and its definately softer. :(

plazman
06-11-06, 08:46 AM
I did do the 30 sec unplug before i had initialized it.For some reason my picture is definately softer.I have watched that warner brothers demo at the beginning of there discs many times and its definately softer. :(

Wow! I'm sorry to hear that. Did you have glitches before the upgrade? In my case I had a perfect player before the update and the picture is still the same but my start-up time is slower.

I do recall someone saying the same thing about the softness post upgrade, so I was a little worried as well. But if anything I believe with SD DVD I perceive greater sharpness than before, while HD DVD looks about the same...

orsantian
06-11-06, 09:07 AM
I had no glitches at all before the upgrade.That's what is so frustrating about it.I held off for many days debating whether i should.I finally decided to do it for the BTB as i could only see 8 black boxes on THX optimizer.I can see all 10 boxes now but i rather have my sharpness back.

egore
06-11-06, 01:23 PM
To me the picture seems more detailed after the update. Maybe it has to do the way a set handles 4:2:2 compared to 4:4:4 input signals. It would be helpful if in the next firmware they had an option for the user to select RGB,4:2:2 or 4:4:4 output. My S97 has this ability.

Big J
06-11-06, 01:31 PM
two different updates? did i miss something?

1.2 and 1.3

hawkeye3.1
06-11-06, 01:32 PM
To me the picture seems more detailed after the update. Maybe it has to do the way a set handles 4:2:2 compared to 4:4:4 input signals. It would be helpful if in the next firmware they had an option for the user to select RGB,4:2:2 or 4:4:4 output. My S97 has this ability.

Quite possible and an interesting observation. I agree it would be an excellent feature to have. I also have the S97, have to check this out.

keenan
06-11-06, 03:03 PM
1.2 and 1.3
Any info on 1.3...?

Krobar
06-11-06, 04:43 PM
To me the picture seems more detailed after the update. Maybe it has to do the way a set handles 4:2:2 compared to 4:4:4 input signals. It would be helpful if in the next firmware they had an option for the user to select RGB,4:2:2 or 4:4:4 output. My S97 has this ability.

Myself and others asked for this a while back. Would be really useful and allow those of us with DVI inputs that accept Component color to achieve a better picture.

slappyjoe
06-12-06, 02:06 PM
Hey all, are there any other links for the 1.2 upgrade? I have tried the site published here, but it is infinitely slow and ultimately ends up stopping.

I was able to get the 1.3 but considering I don't have the RCA logo I am thinking I shouldn't use that one. Am I wrong?

Oh yeah, I have the HD-XA1 and am unable to connect via the Ethernet connection which is why I am asking. Plus Toshiba has told me I have 7-10 days to wait for the disc and I don't want to wait.

BenDover
06-12-06, 02:28 PM
1.2 and 1.3

you mean there is another upgrade? if i try to update the player again through the internet it will find a new firmware upgrade than 1.2? i received an email the other day from Toshiba, which I presumed was for the 1.2 but I haven't received anothe other notification about an official 1.3.

where does this 1.3 come from and who has it? ... i'm confused :confused:

Big J
06-12-06, 02:32 PM
*sigh*
Go here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=686568

J

BenDover
06-12-06, 05:11 PM
*sigh*
Go here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=686568

J

Thanks...

Thistledown
06-12-06, 07:17 PM
Are all consumer electronics companies this bad? I called Toshiba support because my unit is stuck at 'WELCOME' after the update. The person kept grilling me as to why I updated the firmware. If they didn't want me to update it, they shouldn't have added that as a feature.

After running through one troubleshooting step (unplugging the unit for 3 min), it still didn't work. I now have to fax my receipt to Toshiba with the symptoms, then wait 24-48 hours for it to get entered into the system, and THEN call back after they have read the symptoms. Meanwhile, I'm without my HD-DVD player. I guess my $500 is not paying for support. It sounds like it will be my responsibility to send it to them at my expense for them to repair it (no timeframe given if that happens for them to fix it and return it). Frankly, I feel that is unacceptable. They should cross-ship me one with a credit card as collateral at the very least.

Big J
06-12-06, 07:52 PM
Are all consumer electronics companies this bad? I called Toshiba support because my unit is stuck at 'WELCOME' after the update. The person kept grilling me as to why I updated the firmware. If they didn't want me to update it, they shouldn't have added that as a feature.



Did you get the update directly from Toshiba?
J

CJArciola, III
06-12-06, 08:38 PM
....The person kept grilling me as to why I updated the firmware. If they didn't want me to update it, they shouldn't have added that as a feature.


Makes no sense to question you as to WHY you updated. If they only wanted customers with units fitting specified parameters to update, Toshiba would have stated that in the notice giving all others specific instructions not to update.

mbot75
06-12-06, 10:05 PM
Still having problems...

Just got back from vacation and was happy to see the firmware available.
My player suffered from random freezing and pause/fast foward moments causing a loss of audio sync. After successfully installing the 1.2 software I initialized the unit and unplugged it for a few minutes.

Now when I start it up, I sometimes see horizontal lines in the image and distorted color. Pressing STOP then PLAY will fix it sometimes but not always. This did not happen before the firmware update. I ran Van Hesling to see if it made it past a scene that it usually locked up on and it still freezes there 30% of the time.

Has anyone else seen these horizontal lines in the image and color problems?

I bought this XA1 from Robert at Value Electronics. Should I return it there or send it back to Toshiba?

piratehunter
06-12-06, 11:02 PM
I'm trying to update online to 1.2, but I'm having trouble. I have my ethernet cable hooked from the back of my wifi laptop to the A1. I put it to DHCP "on" and I get this "VUP ERROR 121." What am I doing wrong?

davidcrowe
06-12-06, 11:12 PM
I'm trying to update online to 1.2, but I'm having trouble. I have my ethernet cable hooked from the back of my wifi laptop to the A1. I put it to DHCP "on" and I get this "VUP ERROR 121." What am I doing wrong?

You have to also enable the DNS server button.

Dave

piratehunter
06-12-06, 11:22 PM
You have to also enable the DNS server button.

Dave

Yeah, sorry, DNS is set to on as well.

rwestley
06-13-06, 07:06 AM
You have to find the IP address of your router and manually put it in along with the gateway. I had the same problem trying to update. After I updated to V3 from I disk I tried the auto settings and they now seem to work since it states I have the latest firmware. It might be that V3 corrected the DNS connection problem that some of us have had.

JimMac
06-13-06, 08:30 PM
Still having problems...

Now when I start it up, I sometimes see horizontal lines in the image and distorted color. Pressing STOP then PLAY will fix it sometimes but not always. This did not happen before the firmware update. I ran Van Hesling to see if it made it past a scene that it usually locked up on and it still freezes there 30% of the time.

Has anyone else seen these horizontal lines in the image and color problems?



Just received my player hd-a1 back from Toshiba repair in MA. Noticed that it was updated to 1.2, but all my previous settings were still active. Played Unforgiven (very repeatable freeze earlier) and it played without freezing or sound sync issues, although I did notice some very brief pauses/glitch where it would freeze before, so that is much better.

On changing resolution over DVI, I do get a couple of vertical lines on my displays blue background followed by a brief display of what I would label as white noise/static screen, like when you watch the old Twilight zone and they take over your TV :) After this, the display works properly.

Have not had any color problems but I have had trouble placing a standard DVD in the player while the resolution is set to 1080i, I get the dreaded HDMI 1.0 error. Prior to upgrading I could just press play and it would function, now pressing play only results in the same HDMI error. I must eject the disc, change resolutions setting, then re-insert the disc and it will play at a lower resolution. I have not played with this enough to know if it is always repeatable.

More experimentation with STD DVD's seem to indicate that with version 1.2 I now have more timing issues with HDMI handshake, More than 1.0 at least. Sometimes it works while most times it doesn't. Arrghh!

So I guess I'll take the good with the bad, and hope another update is in the works.

mbot75
06-14-06, 03:04 PM
Just received my player hd-a1 back from Toshiba repair in MA. Noticed that it was updated to 1.2, but all my previous settings were still active. Played Unforgiven (very repeatable freeze earlier) and it played without freezing or sound sync issues, although I did notice some very brief pauses/glitch where it would freeze before, so that is much better.

On changing resolution over DVI, I do get a couple of vertical lines on my displays blue background followed by a brief display of what I would label as white noise/static screen, like when you watch the old Twilight zone and they take over your TV :) After this, the display works properly.

Have not had any color problems but I have had trouble placing a standard DVD in the player while the resolution is set to 1080i, I get the dreaded HDMI 1.0 error. Prior to upgrading I could just press play and it would function, now pressing play only results in the same HDMI error. I must eject the disc, change resolutions setting, then re-insert the disc and it will play at a lower resolution. I have not played with this enough to know if it is always repeatable.

So I guess I'll take the good with the bad, and hope another update is in the works.

So then even sending it in for repair doesnt fix the problems...
Wonderful..

Maybe I'll be able to exchange it.
Thanks for your input!

Topless
06-14-06, 03:42 PM
Did the 1.2 patch fix the issues with the HL-S series tv's?

Dmitry
06-14-06, 09:44 PM
Did the 1.2 patch fix the issues with the HL-S series tv's?

Unfortunately, no.

Topless
06-15-06, 10:17 AM
Unfortunately, no.

The peeps that are having these issues, are you trying to go through your audio receiver first then the tv or just straight from the HD DVD box to the TV?

khwiggins2
06-15-06, 01:02 PM
Are all consumer electronics companies this bad? I called Toshiba support because my unit is stuck at 'WELCOME' after the update. The person kept grilling me as to why I updated the firmware. If they didn't want me to update it, they shouldn't have added that as a feature.

After running through one troubleshooting step (unplugging the unit for 3 min), it still didn't work. I now have to fax my receipt to Toshiba with the symptoms, then wait 24-48 hours for it to get entered into the system, and THEN call back after they have read the symptoms. Meanwhile, I'm without my HD-DVD player. I guess my $500 is not paying for support. It sounds like it will be my responsibility to send it to them at my expense for them to repair it (no timeframe given if that happens for them to fix it and return it). Frankly, I feel that is unacceptable. They should cross-ship me one with a credit card as collateral at the very least.

I have the same issue. -edit- Do you have any equipment hooked up to your tv or a/v receiver? You might want to try unplugging them, then try turning on the player.

MY HD-A1 came with 1.2 already loaded. It's connected straight to my 72HM195 via HDMI and COMPOSITE (for troubleshooting purposes). I'm connected to my receiver using a fiber connection(no 5.1 analog inputs on my receiver). Finally, I also have an Adelphia motorola HD PVR unit hooked up to my tv with HDMI as well.

What I did to get the unit working (every time I boot) is to first unhook the hdmi cable until I get the 1081i display after the welcome message on the hd-dvd player display, then I hook up the cable again and I'm good until I turn of the tv, at which time I have to unhook the cable again. :( At least I can get it to work though.

SR1355
06-15-06, 01:02 PM
Finally got internet connection working with player and did firmware upgrade online. Everyhting went fine but now when I have no disc player, or set-up menu on screen, or anything other than disc playing I have a high pitch tone over audio. I'm using HDMI to Panny 42" Plasma, anyone else have this issue?

diggumsmax
06-15-06, 04:15 PM
After the update it switches back to component output. Hit the video output button to switch it back to HDMI output. Don't know what the high pitch tone is all about though.

Topless
06-15-06, 06:57 PM
The peeps that are having these issues, are you trying to go through your audio receiver first then the tv or just straight from the HD DVD box to the TV?

???

HiHoStevo
06-16-06, 04:32 AM
1- The player locks up pretty much all the time.
2- When I can get it to boot, only one out of 15 attempts am I able to get into the “setup” page. I attempted to do an update, but so far it cannot find my internet connection.
3- If I put in an HD-DVD (I tried Serenity) the player just locks up and does nothing. Tried this about 7 times… The front of the player would say HDDVD, but it would just sit there and not respond to any buttons either on the remote of the unit itself. I would wind up having to hold the power button down for 10 seconds to get the unit to shut down.
4- If I put in an SD-DVD then the player loads it and shows it in a tiny window but correct proportions if the player is set to 480p (I am using HDMI out). If the player is set to 720p I get a vertical strip of about 25% of the image centered slightly off-center to the right. If I set the player to 1080i I get a sliver about 15% of the width of the normal picture also off-set to the right.
5- With this SD-DVD I get audio over the HDMI connection if I have 480p selected, I get no audio at 720p or 1080i.
6- When I attempt to use the menus in “setup,” I select 480p or 720p I do not get any image at all with the setup menu I only get an image at 1080i.

I am currently attempting to update the firmware, but having “issues” getting the DVD player to connect to my modem through my router. I have selected DHCP ON and DNS ON and put the address of the router into the window without success… even though my laptop can automatically pull an IP address from the same cable. I have also tried it with DHCP selected to off and assigned the player a static IP address within the range of the router… also without success.

So far I hate to say it, but this thing is an absolute P.O.S. as it currently stands! :mad:

I know others have had good luck and I am terribly envious of them!

Well after the 47th attempt I finally go the unit to find the router and start an update cycle... my unit came with firmware 1.0. After it finishes I will do the power down, power up, re-initialize and see if that helps anything... I have "high" hopes, but then.... I think where there is manure there must be a Pony!

Robert D
06-16-06, 04:46 AM
1- The player locks up pretty much all the time.
2- When I can get it to boot, only one out of 15 attempts am I able to get into the “setup” page. I attempted to do an update, but so far it cannot find my internet connection.
3- If I put in an HD-DVD (I tried Serenity) the player just locks up and does nothing. Tried this about 7 times… The front of the player would say HDDVD, but it would just sit there and not respond to any buttons either on the remote of the unit itself. I would wind up having to hold the power button down for 10 seconds to get the unit to shut down.
4- If I put in an SD-DVD then the player loads it and shows it in a tiny window but correct proportions if the player is set to 480p (I am using HDMI out). If the player is set to 720p I get a vertical strip of about 25% of the image centered slightly off-center to the right. If I set the player to 1080i I get a sliver about 15% of the width of the normal picture also off-set to the right.
5- With this SD-DVD I get audio over the HDMI connection if I have 480p selected, I get no audio at 720p or 1080i.
6- When I attempt to use the menus in “setup,” I select 480p or 720p I do not get any image at all with the setup menu I only get an image at 1080i.

I am currently attempting to update the firmware, but having “issues” getting the DVD player to connect to my modem through my router. I have selected DHCP ON and DNS ON and put the address of the router into the window without success… even though my laptop can automatically pull an IP address from the same cable. I have also tried it with DHCP selected to off and assigned the player a static IP address within the range of the router… also without success.

So far I hate to say it, but this thing is an absolute P.O.S. as it currently stands! :mad:

I know others have had good luck and I am terribly envious of them!

First I would not use the hdmi output (maybe you have problems there) and set the player up using the component video until I got it updated. Now if you can't figure out how to get the player connected to your LAN then just look in the HD DVD players forum and do a search for the 1.2 firmware update http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=151

If you can't find a link to download the update then make a post asking for a link to it (I don't have that link). After you download the update then use nero to burn the image file to a CDR (not a CDRW) insert the disc in your player and follow the on screen instructions. This is a fantastic player and at a bargin price so don't give up on it too fast. :)

HiHoStevo
06-16-06, 04:53 AM
First I would not use the hdmi output (maybe you have problems there) and set the player up using the component video until I got it updated. Now if you can't figure out how to get the player connected to your LAN then just look in the HD DVD players forum and do a search for the 1.2 firmware update http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=151

If you can't find a link to download the update then make a post asking for a link to it (I don't have that link). After you download the update then use nero to burn the image file to a CDR (not a CDRW) insert the disc in your player and follow the on screen instructions. This is a fantastic player and at a bargin price so don't give up on it too fast. :)

Well I finally got the update to start so I am hopeful that afterwards it will work much better :o at least if it knows what's good for it, it will straighten up and get with the program!

I need to use HDMI for several reasons... one it will give me the best picture and sound... secondly all my component inputs on my receiver are in use! I can get great picture and sound from my Sony Mega DVD changer over HDMI so I see no reason why this brand new HD-DVD player should have any issues!

Robert D
06-16-06, 04:58 AM
Well I finally got the update to start so I am hopeful that afterwards it will work much better :o at least if it knows what's good for it, it will straighten up and get with the program!

I need to use HDMI for several reasons... one it will give me the best picture and sound... secondly all my component inputs on my receiver are in use! I can get great picture and sound from my Sony Mega DVD changer over HDMI so I see no reason why this brand new HD-DVD player should have any issues!

I know you want to use hdmi however I was just suggesting component until you get the player updated, besides after the update the player defaults back to component video out so I didn't want you to have a heart attack when your display went belly up. :)

HiHoStevo
06-16-06, 05:05 AM
I know you want to use hdmi however I was just suggesting component until you get the player updated, besides after the update the player defaults back to component video out so I didn't want you to have a heart attack when your display went belly up. :)

Thanks I do appreciate your help... and if I had an open component connection I might have tried it.....,

Thankfully I did read the post a bit earlier in the thread where the person mentioned that the player would default to component after the update...

Are there any other things I should be doing to get this thing playing correctly?

Curious... while I was typing the projector went to a white screen and the player had gone to just the red button light on.... I power cycled the player for 40 seconds (the red light went off at about 22) and then plugged back in... surprisingly enough the player came back at 1080i and HDMI.....?

Robert D
06-16-06, 05:08 AM
Thanks I do appreciate your help... and if I had an open component connection I might have tried it.....,

Thankfully I did read the post a bit earlier in the thread where the person mentioned that the player would default to component after the update...

Are there any other things I should be doing to get this thing playing correctly?

HiHoStevo LOL is that from the Steve Allen Show?

Ihear it takes30or40minutestoupdate fromtheinternet fyi.

Ted_K
06-16-06, 06:48 AM
HiHoStevo LOL is that from the Steve Allen Show?

Actually, Louis Nye's classic line from the show was "Hi Ho Steverino!". But I was laughing too!

Topless
06-16-06, 10:23 AM
The peeps that are having these issues with the HD DVD players, are you trying to go through your audio receiver first then the tv or just straight from the HD DVD box to the TV?

Please....can anyone answer this question?

If you guys are having these issues by hooking up HDMI through the audio receiver first and only then, then i can purchase this unit because mine will be split with fiber opt going from HD DVD player into the audio rec. and the video through the HDMI from HD DVD player to TV

HiHoStevo
06-16-06, 12:49 PM
Yes Robert, I am surprised there is someone out there old enough to remember.........

Ted must be an "old guy" too...................

Tell me I can only get this player to operate using the Component outs... Have you heard of other people having problems running the HDMI through a Denon receiver? (I am currently using the 2807)

I have ejected the disc when it would not play over HDMI (it locks up with HDDVD on the front panel) then run the HDMI directly from the projector to the DVD player and this makes no difference... when the disc loads it locks up at the same place...

Now if I push the power button for 10 seconds to power down the unit then wait 30 seconds and re-boot the player with the DVD inside... and the HDMI hooked directly to the projector....... magic... I get a picture!

Any ideas?

Odys
06-16-06, 12:49 PM
After not being able to update through the Internet, I called and requested a firmware disc. They said 7 business days, so I'm being patient, as I've had very few problems. Then yesterday I get a packing slip in the mail for the firmware disc, but no disc, just a packing slip. I call up and they tell me they were behind in disc production and that they sent this out as a notice that it is coming. Apparently they were out of Toshiba stationary and had to use a packing slip instead. I should receive my disc "in a few days." Good thing I'm patient. :rolleyes:

Dave Harper
06-16-06, 01:03 PM
Please....can anyone answer this question?

If you guys are having these issues by hooking up HDMI through the audio receiver first and only then, then i can purchase this unit because mine will be split with fiber opt going from HD DVD player into the audio rec. and the video through the HDMI from HD DVD player to TV

I have mine going thru a Denon 5805 and it's fine. I had a few issues before the FW update, but since it's been no problem at all (......yet;)!!!)

JimMac
06-16-06, 02:55 PM
Please....can anyone answer this question?

If you guys are having these issues by hooking up HDMI through the audio receiver first and only then, then i can purchase this unit because mine will be split with fiber opt going from HD DVD player into the audio rec. and the video through the HDMI from HD DVD player to TV


HD-A1 hdmi directly to Benq 8700 projector, opt audio going to receiver, with update installed experiencing hdmi handshake issues with 1.2 firmware, but no freezes so far (fingers crossed).
Just wish Toshiba provided some type of delay/timing parameter that you could adjust so the handshake to display could be changed, it seems to be just on the edge as it actually worked better with 1.0 firmware.

Big J
06-16-06, 03:04 PM
After not being able to update through the Internet, I called and requested a firmware disc. They said 7 business days, so I'm being patient, as I've had very few problems. Then yesterday I get a packing slip in the mail for the firmware disc, but no disc, just a packing slip. I call up and they tell me they were behind in disc production and that they sent this out as a notice that it is coming. Apparently they were out of Toshiba stationary and had to use a packing slip instead. I should receive my disc "in a few days." Good thing I'm patient. :rolleyes:
I got one too. It said they are backordered.
Personally, I don't really care-I won't be upgrading anytime soon.
J

Topless
06-16-06, 03:15 PM
I have mine going thru a Denon 5805 and it's fine. I had a few issues before the FW update, but since it's been no problem at all (......yet;)!!!)

Thank you guys for responding. I think I need to clean the stupid out because i failed to mention that the people having issues with your HL-SXX88 models.

From the way I understand it is that running the HD DVD box through your audio receiver first then the TV will not pick it up until Toshiba changes the field from the way it searches for the signal.

I have not heard of anyone that has an HL-S set that can get this unit to work with HDMI.

akadennis
06-16-06, 04:53 PM
Just got my update disk from Toshiba today, instead of an HDMI error when switching inputs I now get HDMI No Link. Way to go Toshiba. Anyone else getting this? Or am I the only one?

RoboDad
06-16-06, 05:25 PM
Did you get the 1.2 or 1.3 upgrade on disc?

akadennis
06-16-06, 05:30 PM
1.2