Hello all,

I am a novice when it comes to subwoofers so I need a little advice. My piece of poop Sony sub (finally) died the other night. I dont wanna spend a lot of money on the sub (around $200) so i've been looking at the Velodyne VX10 and the Velodyne VRP-1000. It seems like the VRP is about $70 more than the VX10. Is there a big difference between the two models??? I am using an Onkyo 803 receiver and have Polk RTI 8s in the front with RTI 6s in the back. Oh..and my room is approximately 12 X 18.

Thanks!

Same sub different finish. Don't be concerned about the slight differences in the advertised specifications. If you don't mind the vinyl veneer the VX10, which is often sold as a loss leader, (check out 6th AVE Electronics on line for pricing) is a better deal. I have used this sub and it offers a very good bang for the buck in smaller rooms.

Ian

I had the vpr 1000 for a week.. It was the worst sub i ever owned.

Nothing could be worse than my sony, but what sub did you end up getting snobglobin?

Having owned a VRP-1000 for about 3 weeks before returning it, I would say that you are better off looking elsewhere. In keeping under $300, I would suggest checking out the Acoustech H-100 or Onix X-Sub instead. Each would give you better extension and sound quality in this price range.

I'm sure either of the Velodynes that you have listed would sound a world better than the Sony that you're replacing, but there are definitely better options for the money.

Personally, I traded the VRP-1000 on an Infinity PS-12, which was a MUCH better sub, and I then traded that sub in when I picked up a Mirage S12.

Just to put things in perspective, with proper set up the VRP subs are very capable performers. On the Home Theater Forum they compared the VRP 1200 to the Infinity PS12. Although the infinity slightly edged out the less expensive Velo in over all output, the Velo received a better bang for the buck in the review. I have compared the 12 and the 10 and in smaller rooms (under 2000 cu ft) they are very close.

Ian

A link to that review can be found here http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/subwoofers/313-face-off-svs-pb10-isd-takes-few-contenders.html

I bought the vrp1000 ain March, and am using it in a 13*18*7'8" room. So far I am very happy with it.

Its a good sub to start out with. The only negitive thing I have to say is that I wish it went deeper for music.

Just to put things in perspective, with proper set up the VRP subs are very capable performers. On the Home Theater Forum they compared the VRP 1200 to the Infinity PS12. Although the infinity slightly edged out the less expensive Velo in over all output, the Velo received a better bang for the buck in the review. I have compared the 12 and the 10 and in smaller rooms (under 2000 cu ft) they are very close.

Ian


To refer back to that particular article, the Velo was a better value when compared to the Infinity's list price of $449.99; however, it is not difficult to find the PS-12 on sale at prices less than the VRP-1200. Right now, you can get the Infinity shipped from Vanns for just under $300.

Considering that the PS-12>VRP-1200>VRP-1000, it should also be considered at this price point.

Just to put things in perspective, with proper set up the VRP subs are very capable performers. On the Home Theater Forum they compared the VRP 1200 to the Infinity PS12. Although the infinity slightly edged out the less expensive Velo in over all output, the Velo received a better bang for the buck in the review. I have compared the 12 and the 10 and in smaller rooms (under 2000 cu ft) they are very close.

Ian


I'm not a reviewer.. I just used it as a everyday consumer. The VPR-1000 cost me around $265 with tax.. Then I bought a H100 for around the same price with a 12 inch woofer. It killed the vpr 1000 by a mile.

Of course this is just my opinion.. But I wouldn't wish the vpr1000 on my worst enemy.. Maybe if the vpr1000 10 inch cost $100 it would be a different story..

The problem with the VRP subs is that the input sensitivity is fairly low and this can effect their performance capability.

VX-10, VRP-1000 and VRP-1200 subwoofers are equipped with speaker-level terminals and line-level input jacks. When using the line level jacks, some receivers may not provide enough signal to have the unit's auto-on feature operate properly. Additionally, this lack of signal may also cause the subwoofer to produce less output than it is capable of.
There are certain set up procedures that I have recommended on other threads and I have received pm's from member's who received much better results after reading my posts. I also had issues with this model and was ready to return it, but after break in and making the right calibrations it turned into a different sub. The H100 is a great sub and offers the best bang for the buck in it's price range. I've recommended it often on this forum. As I said the VRP 1000 is a bit pricy compared to other offers on the internet but at $169.00 the VX10
offers a lot of value for those with smaller HT rooms and will compete with any sub in the $200.00 +/- price club.

Ian

Thanks for all your help guys. I ordered the Accoustech H-100 yesterday for $214 shipped. It ended up costing only $45 more than the velodyne VX10....it sounds like either would've been a big improvement over my sony but everyone seems to really rave about the Accoustech. I hope it arrives soon...I really miss my bass!!! Again, thanks for your help!

Thanks for all your help guys. I ordered the Accoustech H-100 yesterday for $214 shipped. It ended up costing only $45 more than the velodyne VX10....it sounds like either would've been a big improvement over my sony but everyone seems to really rave about the Accoustech. I hope it arrives soon...I really miss my bass!!! Again, thanks for your help!

That's a great deal on the H-100! If you don't mind, could you share where you got it?

I have a friend that is in the process of putting together a system on a tight budget, and I would like to pass this information along.

rel

I got it on Ebay from sound_distributors. I think he is asking 245 but there is a button for "Make an Offer." Offer him $185.

Good luck!

Just remember that when you don't buy a product from an authorized dealer you won't have a warranty.

Ian

I just returned the Infinity PS 12 and re-bought the VRP 1200. The Infinity was nice but after a week of having it the thing would start crackling during any powerful LFE scene in a movie. And it wasn't distortion or boominess, the cracking sound was coming from the physical part of the sub. It sounded like it was going to break. To me that was too noticeable during movies to keep so I gave the VRP 1200 another shot. With mailiang's great set up advice, it is working great! With having owned both the Infinity PS 12 and the Velo VRP 1200, I can tell you for certain that the VRP 1200 can hang with the PS 12 any day of the week when it is tweaked the right way. And, JMO, but I think the Velo is built a lot better than the Infinity was. I did like the Infinity, however, and my home theater speakers are Infinity Primus but when it comes to subs I will take the Velodyne. BTW, Happy Father's Day all AVS Fathers!

Good luck...

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I just returned the Infinity PS 12 and re-bought the VRP 1200. The Infinity was nice but after a week of having it the thing would start crackling during any powerful LFE scene in a movie. And it wasn't distortion or boominess, the cracking sound was coming from the physical part of the sub. It sounded like it was going to break. To me that was too noticeable during movies to keep so I gave the VRP 1200 another shot. With mailiang's great set up advice, it is working great! With having owned both the Infinity PS 12 and the Velo VRP 1200, I can tell you for certain that the VRP 1200 can hang with the PS 12 any day of the week when it is tweaked the right way. And, JMO, but I think the Velo is built a lot better than the Infinity was. I did like the Infinity, however, and my home theater speakers are Infinity Primus but when it comes to subs I will take the Velodyne. BTW, Happy Father's Day all AVS Fathers!

Good luck...

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It sounds like you just got a bad PS-12 if you were having those types of problems with the physical part of the sub. Regardless, if you're happy with the VRP-1200, that's all that really matters in the end.

My Vrp1000 sounds good to me for $170 new. Can't compete with my SVS PB10 but the size and sound is still good. Not for $250 but under $200 worth it IMO

The problem with the VRP subs is that the input sensitivity is fairly low and this can effect their performance capability.


There are certain set up procedures that I have recommended on other threads and I have received pm's from member's who received much better results after reading my posts. I also had issues with this model and was ready to return it, but after break in and making the right calibrations it turned into a different sub. The H100 is a great sub and offers the best bang for the buck in it's price range. I've recommended it often on this forum. As I said the VRP 1000 is a bit pricy compared to other offers on the internet but at $169.00 the VX10
offers a lot of value for those with smaller HT rooms and will compete with any sub in the $200.00 +/- price club.

Ian

Will you review the set up procedures you talked about for the VRPs?

Will you review the set up procedures you talked about for the VRPs?

At your request, I sent you a detailed PM on how to proceed. Good luck and enjoy!


Ian

At your request, I sent you a detailed PM on how to proceed. Good luck and enjoy!


Ian

Hi Ian,

Would you be kind enough to send me the detailed setup tips for the VRP-1200 as well. I just picked up a unit today and would be interested in any advice.

Thanks.

Hi Ian,

Would you be kind enough to send me the detailed setup tips for the VRP-1200 as well. I just picked up a unit today and would be interested in any advice.

Thanks.


I sent you a PM. If you follow my instructions you will find that these subs have a lot of potential. Proper placement and set up can make a world of difference. Enjoy!


Ian

I just picked up a VRP1200 at A&B sound for 170 bucks yesterday. Not a bad deal. Replaces my old Energy 8" sub. Could I possibly get that setup info as well?

Thanks.

I just picked up a VRP1200 at A&B sound for 170 bucks yesterday. Not a bad deal. Replaces my old Energy 8" sub. Could I possibly get that setup info as well?

Thanks.


I spoke to Curt C. from Velodyne the other day and he thanked me for advising members on my Velo VRP set up routine. He gets a lot of questions and PM's from the Velo support thread and I'm helping him reduce his work load! :D If you PM me I will send you my recommendations. $170.00 for a VRP1200! Not a bad deal? :eek: Thats a #*#*#* of a deal!

Ian :D

i just got the VX-10 today for $150 and it pounds.

Mailing

I picked a VRP1200 from A&B Sound at Boxing Day. Can you send me the setup procedure also.

Thanks

Ive been trying for 1/2hr to get this friggin PM thing working and it just wont let me turn it on in my options. After I check it and save changes it keeps saying to log in or I dont have access.
If you can, just email me the setup info to mikeandlisaf@canada.com

thanks.

Can you send me the setup procedure also.


If you can, just email me the setup info


Done.


Ian

Got it, thanks man.

Thanks mailiang

Happy New Year all :)

I just received my Velodyne VX-10. Was just wondering where to set the crossover for 100Hz or 150Hz (ex: 2 o'clock and 4 o'clock)? Thanks much.

Set the receiver's cross to 80hz if you can and the sub to 120 which is around 1'o clock. If your receiver has a fixed Xover of 100, set the subs closer to 140 which would be the next notch ( . ) up.

Ian

Set the receiver's cross to 80hz if you can and the sub to 120 which is around 1'o clock. If your receiver has a fixed Xover of 100, set the subs closer to 140 which would be the next notch ( . ) up.

Ian

Thanks much Ian :) I tried different settings and the receiver set at 80hz and the sub at 120 seems to sound the best and most seemless. Even tried setting the receiver to 150 due to curt c's suggestion (for the CHT Front Row System) but 80hz and 120 did the trick.

Set the receiver's cross to 80hz if you can and the sub to 120 which is around 1'o clock. If your receiver has a fixed Xover of 100, set the subs closer to 140 which would be the next notch ( . ) up.

Ian

i just tried that (didnt know about crossover setting in the reciever) but my system seems to sound optimal with the reciever at 80 and the sub crossover knock maxed out. so if i have to sub crossover maxed out should i turn up the crossover setting in the reciever ?

i just tried that (didnt know about crossover setting in the reciever) but my system seems to sound optimal with the reciever at 80 and the sub crossover knock maxed out. so if i have to sub crossover maxed out should i turn up the crossover setting in the reciever ?

The problem with the VRP subs is that they don't have a high pass filter. Since the fr limit is around 120hz, unless you have very small satellites you should limit the cross on the sub fairly close to that. I would suggest you raise the cross on the receiver instead.

Ian

The problem with the VRP subs is that they don't have a high pass filter. Since the fr limit is around 120hz, unless you have very small satellites you should limit the cross on the sub fairly close to that. I would suggest you raise the cross on the receiver instead.

Ian

im using the VX-10 sub, paradigm titan v4 speakers for fronts, and surround backs, and kenwood centre channel and surrounds.

I would love to have a copy of the magic setup instruction as well.

I would love to have a copy of the magic setup instruction as well.


Yes...I would also please.

I would love to have a copy of the magic setup instruction as well.

PM me. I'm off to watch the Dresden Files. I'll take notes if need be. :D


Yes...I would also please.


I sent you a PM. ;)


Ian

I just bought my VELO VX-10 and I love to try the magic setup instruction as well.

There are certain set up procedures that I have recommended on other threads and I have received pm's from member's who received much better results after reading my posts. I also had issues with this model and was ready to return it, but after break in and making the right calibrations it turned into a different sub.

Ian or anyone else who already has Ian's set up guide,
Is there any way I can get the set up procedures as well. I am new to the Forum and believe that I just sent you a pm.

Thanks,
M

Any instruction would be greatly appreciative.

I have an Onkyo 605 if that's matter.

taylorpham@hotmail.com

There are certain set up procedures that I have recommended on other threads and I have received pm's from member's who received much better results after reading my posts. I also had issues with this model and was ready to return it, but after break in and making the right calibrations it turned into a different sub.

I assume this is my quote. :D

Ian or anyone else who already has Ian's set up guide,
Is there any way I can get the set up procedures as well. I am new to the Forum and believe that I just sent you a pm.

Done!

Ian

I assume this is my quote. :D



Done!

Ian

Don't forget me!

Done.


Ian

Just took delivery of the vrp 1200. Could you please pm me your special set up procedures as well?

Thanks!

hey there.. i just joined this forum. i have been getting a lot of information from the forum, so thanks a lot guys.
i recently upgraded my home theater system from onkyo HT320 to following:
onkyo TX-SR506 receiver (ordered from vanns for $199 shipped and not yet received)
klipsch quintet II 5 speaker set
velodyne vrp1000 sub.

i got the sub on amazon for $158 shipped. I have been hearing about the sensitivity issues with velodyne. could you please email me the setup instructions. also anyone is familiar with the setup of Onkyo TX-SR506? do you think this system is compatible with each other ? any inputs are highly appreciated..

thanks

hey there.. i just joined this forum. i have been getting a lot of information from the forum, so thanks a lot guys.
i recently upgraded my home theater system from onkyo HT320 to following:
onkyo TX-SR506 receiver (ordered from vanns for $199 shipped and not yet received)
klipsch quintet II 5 speaker set
velodyne vrp1000 sub.

i got the sub on amazon for $158 shipped. I have been hearing about the sensitivity issues with velodyne. could you please email me the setup instructions. also anyone is familiar with the setup of Onkyo TX-SR506? do you think this system is compatible with each other ? any inputs are highly appreciated..

thanks

I sent you a pm. The newer VRP subs have been updated and are very sensitive.


Ian

nevermind, new thread