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direwolfdave
07-18-06, 11:31 PM
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and I'm in the process of making my move away from Charter Digital Cable to either E* or D*. I'm also a big Red Sox fan which is my main reason for moving away from Charter since they refuse to offer NESN in my area. I've been checking this thread since the announcement of D* offering NESN HD tonight supposedly.. anyone having any luck with the NESN HD in my general area of Ct.? Amazing that one channel is all it takes to make the move to D*, E* or not...

raoul5788
07-18-06, 11:37 PM
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and I'm in the process of making my move away from Charter Digital Cable to either E* or D*. I'm also a big Red Sox fan which is my main reason for moving away from Charter since they refuse to offer NESN in my area. I've been checking this thread since the announcement of D* offering NESN HD tonight supposedly.. anyone having any luck with the NESN HD in my general area of Ct.? Amazing that one channel is all it takes to make the move to D*, E* or not...

Sorry, but for now NESN is not available in CT in hd.

PaulieORF
07-18-06, 11:51 PM
Sorry, but for now NESN is not available in CT in hd.
Unless you "move" to Boston like I did :)

wyatt9696
07-19-06, 12:19 AM
Unless you "move" to Boston like I did :)

road your coat tails paulie. I now live in beantown, maybe we're neighbors. thanks for all your great info. See ya at Fenway ;)

marjen
07-19-06, 07:45 AM
Well at least todays game will be in something better than HD for me. Taking a little trip up to fenway. Thats one way to see the game more clearly! Back to SD blahness tomorrow :(

diffdrummer
07-19-06, 08:45 AM
Last evening I had a few friends over for the NESN HD on D* debut. We compared it side by side to the Comcast NESN HD feed. I am still cancelling my summer comcast feed (I only subscribed for Sox games), but I was disappointed in the picture quality.

Did anybody else notice the following?
o jaggies or artifacts
o motion seemed to be delayed or blurred-- takes time for picture to stabilize

Thunderstorms didn't roll into Cambridge until well after the game, so I do not think it was that.

Does anybody know if this is a result of using mpeg4? If so, is mpeg4 not ideally suited for sports? If not, do you think that D* is overly compressing these spotbeam feeds?

I am not a Comcast fan. Been a D* customer for 7 years. This spring I got tired of not having NESN HD and subscribed to Comcast for Sox games and was prepared to cancel this fall. Picture is good enough an improvement over the SD to return my Comcast box today, but I wish D* would give us our NESN in it's full res glory...

direwolfdave
07-19-06, 02:39 PM
Unless you "move" to Boston like I did :)
So how did you 'move'? Can it be as simple as I'm thinking it is?

guffy1
07-19-06, 02:43 PM
So how did you 'move'? Can it be as simple as I'm thinking it is?

Yes, it can :)

Find an address in Boston and then call D* and tell them you moved...

Keep your billing address the same..

To find an address google Boston Apartments...

Once you find an apartment complex, use a letter for your apt. #, instead of a #...

Easy pickins....

Keep in mind that you will lose your hometown locals (but you will gain Boston locals)

PaulieORF
07-19-06, 03:01 PM
Yes, it can :)

Find an address in Boston and then call D* and tell them you moved...

Keep your billing address the same..

To find an address google Boston Apartments...

Once you find an apartment complex, use a letter for your apt. #, instead of a #...

Easy pickins....

Keep in mind that you will lose your hometown locals (but you will gain Boston locals)
Or you could use a friend or relative's address in Boston like I did.

direwolfdave
07-19-06, 03:14 PM
Woud I be able to use a Cape Cod address?

PaulieORF
07-19-06, 03:17 PM
Woud I be able to use a Cape Cod address?
Check and isee iff the zip code of this place gets Boston locals on the DirecTV website. If it does, then it will work.

direwolfdave
07-19-06, 03:38 PM
Check and isee iff the zip code of this place gets Boston locals on the DirecTV website. If it does, then it will work.
When I enter the zip code it comes up saying that "Yes! Local channels are available in Boston MA - No HD Locals 02642" Does that mean I won't get NESN HD?

ScoBuck
07-19-06, 03:41 PM
When I enter the zip code it comes up saying that "Yes! Local channels are available in Boston MA - No HD Locals 02642" Does that mean I won't get NESN HD?

Heres the answer again - if the place you move to gets Boston HD locals from DirecTV the answer is YES, if it doesn't the answer is NO. Not to be rude but there is nothing more to it than that.

direwolfdave
07-19-06, 03:50 PM
Heres the answer again - if the place you move to gets Boston HD locals from DirecTV the answer is YES, if it doesn't the answer is NO. Not to be rude but there is nothing more to it than that.
ScoBuck what is the deal with you? I've seen you get uppity with people's questions on more than one occasion in this thread alone. I don't believe my question was directed at you so if you're going to be condescending in your reply please refrain from replying at all. Excuse my nascency to the situation but I'm just looking for some intelligent guidance. Thank you.

PaulieORF
07-19-06, 03:55 PM
When I enter the zip code it comes up saying that "Yes! Local channels are available in Boston MA - No HD Locals 02642" Does that mean I won't get NESN HD?
That's interesting. Until now, I have yet to see a zip code get the SD locals for a particular city, but not HD locals, when HD locals have indeed been launched for those locals. In other words, every other town I've seen outside Boston that gets Boston SD locals, also gets the HD locals. It could be an error on the site. Afterall, DirecTV.com still doesn't know HD locals for Hartford, even though we've had them since the 28th of June. I would call DirecTV and ask them about that specific zip code.

ScoBuck
07-19-06, 03:58 PM
ScoBuck what is the deal with you? I've seen you get uppity with people's questions on more than one occasion in this thread alone. I don't believe my question was directed at you so if you're going to be condescending in your reply please refrain from replying at all. Excuse my nascency to the situation but I'm just looking for some intelligent guidance. Thank you.

sorry you took it for rude, I thought you were reading into more than needed to be - because the answer really is simple as suggested - that's why I added that It was NOt intended to be taken rude.

direwolfdave
07-19-06, 04:32 PM
sorry you took it for rude, I thought you were reading into more than needed to be - because the answer really is simple as suggested - that's why I added that It was NOt intended to be taken rude.
I apologize too then. I'm trying not to read too far into the situation but as you find when you're comparing and contrasting several different options to find the best possible solution it's easy to get frazzled. Especially when dealing with telco's, cable provides or satellite co's.

ScoBuck
07-19-06, 04:34 PM
I apologize too then. I'm trying not to read too far into the situation but as you find when you're comparing and contrasting several different options to find the best possible solution it's easy to get frazzled. Especially when dealing with telco's, cable provides or satellite co's.

Listen I understand, and I understand your take on my comment. I guess part of the problem is, the same questions can get asked 25 or more times a day - not anyone's fault really, but nevertheless the way it is.

Good luck in getting the channels you want. :)

direwolfdave
07-19-06, 04:56 PM
That's interesting. Until now, I have yet to see a zip code get the SD locals for a particular city, but not HD locals, when HD locals have indeed been launched for those locals. In other words, every other town I've seen outside Boston that gets Boston SD locals, also gets the HD locals. It could be an error on the site. Afterall, DirecTV.com still doesn't know HD locals for Hartford, even though we've had them since the 28th of June. I would call DirecTV and ask them about that specific zip code.
Thanks for the info. I'll check with DirecTV on that issue and post whatever answer they give me. The zip code I provided is in Eastham which is a good ways out there above the 'elbow' on Cape Cod. Maybe it's out of range. Either way I'm getting a bit ahead of myself. I still need to figure out what's going to work best for me. But I'm pretty sure Charter isn't it.

PaulieORF
07-19-06, 07:24 PM
Well, I caved in under the pressure of the other people who live at my residence, and "moved" back to Connecticut, and thus no more NESN HD. Losing the CT locals was a big deal, so I'm back in that boat again. It is kind of strange how NESN HD and the Boston HD locals had this "choppiness" to them, while my Hartford HD locals are just fine.

Anyway, I got to thinking. I think that the reason that Connecticut does not get NESN HD from DirecTV (yet) is because DirecTV does not have the ability to share a single local channel amongst different markets. I'm using this theory because NESN HD is being treated as a Boston local HD channel. They are unable to send that channel to the program guides of people who are in both Hartford and Boston. Obviously both cities are covered by the same spot beam, showcased by all the "movers" who are getting Boston HD locals and NESN HD in Connecticut.

So you may ask "why don't they just duplicate the channel for the Hartford market since NESN is a regular RSN for everyone in the Hartford market?" Well, I think this is something that DirecTV has decided that they are either not going to do, or hopefully are still contemplating. It just doesn't make sense to me to isolate a very large group of Red Sox fans because of this.

And then there's the issue of New York RSNs, like YES and SNY. As most of you probably know, Connecticut gets 6 RSNs, 2 from Boston and 4 from NY. That will total up to 6 RSNs being duplicated for just the Hartford area. Now I don't know what the capacity of the transponders are for the new 99 and 103 sats, but this could also be something that DirecTV is looking at, saying maybe they will just wait until the two new sats go up next year, and they can just make these HD RSNs available to Hartford when they go CONUS, and everyone else in the country gets them.

It would be nice if DirecTV could tell us whether or not it's in their plans to make NESN HD available elsewhere before next year, but they don't make any of this information available, and no matter who you talk to and how hard you try to get answers, you can't.

This is all just speculation, so any comments or other theories would be appreciated.

marjen
07-19-06, 07:55 PM
I wonder if just one of your receivers can move? It is plausible, long business assignmnet for a few months in the Boston area, taking HD receiver with you, leaving the others behind for family, want to be charged same billing address? May have to try this.

D is going to be wondering why everyone is moving to Boston?

PaulieORF
07-19-06, 07:59 PM
D is going to be wondering why everyone is moving to Boston?
Haha, I actually thought about that today.

wyatt9696
07-19-06, 09:48 PM
Well, I caved in under the pressure of the other people who live at my residence, and "moved" back to Connecticut, and thus no more NESN HD. Losing the CT locals was a big deal, .

could you get CT locals OTA? I've got all our locals(CT) and all the boston stuff. just curious.

PaulieORF
07-19-06, 10:28 PM
could you get CT locals OTA? I've got all our locals(CT) and all the boston stuff. just curious.
Yeah, but the problem is the other 3 TVs in the house don't have access to OTA.

wyatt9696
07-20-06, 01:23 AM
Yeah, but the problem is the other 3 TVs in the house don't have access to OTA.

that's cool. just was wondering. hopefully it'll be a short time before DTV comes to their senses, and quits screwing the CT folks with this crap. good luck to you.

risnuff
07-20-06, 02:02 PM
According to the spotbeam map, they've got one for practically every region except Pittsburgh.

Bah!

loudo38
07-20-06, 02:33 PM
According to the spotbeam map, they've got one for practically every region except Pittsburgh.

Bah!

Where did you see the spot beam map?

PaulieORF
07-20-06, 04:50 PM
I just had a lenghty conversation with Robert Mercer in PR at DirecTV about NESN HD and Connecticut. I told him that people as far as western Connecticut were changing their service addresses to a Boston address and receiving NESN HD. He was shocked. He said that from all the information he'd been given, and up until he spoke to me, he was under the impression that the spot beam on which NESN HD is carried does not reach outside of the places that currently get NESN HD. He explained to me that the transponder that the Hartford HD locals on are "full". I say it in quotes because it's not completely full, but the channel slots for ABC HD and FOX HD (which CT currently doesn't get because DirecTV and the station owners are still negotiating) have been reserved for when those agreements are reached. So that answers the "why can't they just duplicate the channel" question.

He said that he would definitely bring it up to the right people, as he said they'd like to "light it up" for as many people who can get it. Neither of us knew whether or not it is possible to add a channel that is carried on the Boston spotbeam into the guide of someone who receives locals from a different city

He told me that he's going to keep my number handy, and let me know what he hears about this, and if they're able to turn on NESN HD in Connecticut. And of course, I will keep you all updated and let you know as soon as I hear from him.

bidger
07-20-06, 06:14 PM
DirecTV's online program guide is showing channel 95 AND 96 as Yankees vs Mariners ALSO channel 97 showing Mets vs. Reds. Can't get better than this!

Thank you DirecTV!!!!
So, did this game air for MPEG-4 subs in the NY RSN area?

ScoBuck
07-20-06, 06:21 PM
So, did this game air for MPEG-4 subs in the NY RSN area?

Actually NO. guess they were a bit premature in their guide info.

Kevin12586
07-20-06, 10:21 PM
So, did this game air for MPEG-4 subs in the NY RSN area?

Only the Yankee game, the Mets are not available yet.

DG6934
07-21-06, 08:49 AM
I just had a lenghty conversation with Robert Mercer in PR at DirecTV about NESN HD and Connecticut. I told him that people as far as western Connecticut were changing their service addresses to a Boston address and receiving NESN HD. He was shocked. He said that from all the information he'd been given, and up until he spoke to me, he was under the impression that the spot beam on which NESN HD is carried does not reach outside of the places that currently get NESN HD. He explained to me that the transponder that the Hartford HD locals on are "full". I say it in quotes because it's not completely full, but the channel slots for ABC HD and FOX HD (which CT currently doesn't get because DirecTV and the station owners are still negotiating) have been reserved for when those agreements are reached. So that answers the "why can't they just duplicate the channel" question.

He said that he would definitely bring it up to the right people, as he said they'd like to "light it up" for as many people who can get it. Neither of us knew whether or not it is possible to add a channel that is carried on the Boston spotbeam into the guide of someone who receives locals from a different city

He told me that he's going to keep my number handy, and let me know what he hears about this, and if they're able to turn on NESN HD in Connecticut. And of course, I will keep you all updated and let you know as soon as I hear from him.


Helluva job Paul. Finally, someone who actually got to a source and got us some legit answers. Now we know that they intend on adding the other 2 locals and maybe, if this goes to the right people, you could be the reason Remy is welcoming DTV CT members to NESN HD!

PaulieORF
07-21-06, 09:02 AM
Helluva job Paul. Finally, someone who actually got to a source and got us some legit answers. Now we know that they intend on adding the other 2 locals and maybe, if this goes to the right people, you could be the reason Remy is welcoming DTV CT members to NESN HD!
I can only hope so. I've included my contact at NESN in this particular discussion as well.

As far as the locals go, it's good that they have the two channel slots reserved for ABC and FOX. However, one problem here is that the owners of WTNH and WTIC are trying to get DirecTV to carry their other owned channels, WCTX and WTXX, respectively. These are potential dealbreakers, so if DirecTV does not have the capacity to offer WCTX and WTXX in HD, we may not get WTNH and WTIC. I would like to think that some sort of understanding is there on the part of WTNH and WTIC that as of right now, DirecTV just cannot add those other channels, so we don't get held out.

sp1dey
07-21-06, 09:29 AM
I can only hope so. I've included my contact at NESN in this particular discussion as well.

As far as the locals go, it's good that they have the two channel slots reserved for ABC and FOX. However, one problem here is that the owners of WTNH and WTIC are trying to get DirecTV to carry their other owned channels, WCTX and WTXX, respectively. These are potential dealbreakers, so if DirecTV does not have the capacity to offer WCTX and WTXX in HD, we may not get WTNH and WTIC. I would like to think that some sort of understanding is there on the part of WTNH and WTIC that as of right now, DirecTV just cannot add those other channels, so we don't get held out.

Thanks for the updates Paul, I greatly appreciate it. I wouldn't be shocked if Fox and WB get lit up soon enough, given at least to other markets (Philly, Atlanta) got either a UPN or WB (these affiliates are becoming CW). WTNH might be a tough nut to crack though.

At this point, I'd be happy if NESN was lit by opening day next year (one would think the new DVR would be out by then). Season is nearly over and if they can give me one game a week on ch95 I'd be somewhat happy.

PaulieORF
07-21-06, 09:39 AM
Thanks for the updates Paul, I greatly appreciate it. I wouldn't be shocked if Fox and WB get lit up soon enough, given at least to other markets (Philly, Atlanta) got either a UPN or WB (these affiliates are becoming CW). WTNH might be a tough nut to crack though.
If what DirecTV is telling me is correct, and the transponder that the Hartford locals are on is full, then there will be no WB, at least until they do some reshuffling of transponders.

Also, if Robert Mercer at DirecTV gets back to me and says that they are unable to give us NESN HD from the Boston spotbeam in CT, then NESN HD will be unavailable to Connecticut residents until DirecTV launches the new satellites next year (after the start of baseball season), and they are made CONUS, and available to everyone else in the country. So we had better hope that they can do something now.

sp1dey
07-21-06, 09:53 AM
I hear what you are saying Paul, I'm just choosing to listen to only parts of it :)

It's wishful thinking on my part, I know. Every summer I go through the same thing, spotty OTA coverage thanks to CT's hilly terrain and leaves. As is, my weakest signals are WTNH and WTXX, which my family watches extensively. The additions of these channels are equally important (or greater - depending if you ask me or the wife) to NESN-HD. Bottom line, I'm in it for the long haul, and can see the light at the end of the tunnel... I think.

That said, I appreciate your efforts. My emails seem to go unnoticed or just canned replies from NESN, D*, WTHN, and WTIC.

bonscott87
07-21-06, 01:41 PM
If what DirecTV is telling me is correct, and the transponder that the Hartford locals are on is full, then there will be no WB, at least until they do some reshuffling of transponders.

Also, if Robert Mercer at DirecTV gets back to me and says that they are unable to give us NESN HD from the Boston spotbeam in CT, then NESN HD will be unavailable to Connecticut residents until DirecTV launches the new satellites next year (after the start of baseball season), and they are made CONUS, and available to everyone else in the country. So we had better hope that they can do something now.

I speculated on another forum that the Hartford locals most likely don't have their own spotbeam but probably share with New York. If so then yea, it's probably almost full with the 4 (probably 5 soon with CW) NY locals, YES HD and 4 Hartford locals (2 spots saved). That's a lot on one spotbeam.

Just a theory and it ain't bunnies. ;)

sp1dey
07-21-06, 01:53 PM
I speculated on another forum that the Hartford locals most likely don't have their own spotbeam but probably share with New York. If so then yea, it's probably almost full with the 4 (probably 5 soon with CW) NY locals, YES HD and 4 Hartford locals (2 spots saved). That's a lot on one spotbeam.

Just a theory and it ain't bunnies. ;)

I suppose it's possible, but if so why not light up YES-HD for CT? and SNY (not sure if it's on MPEG4 yet). CT falls in both channels markets along with NESN.

PaulieORF
07-21-06, 02:16 PM
I suppose it's possible, but if so why not light up YES-HD for CT? and SNY (not sure if it's on MPEG4 yet). CT falls in both channels markets along with NESN.
Good point. I'm only making a big deal about NESN HD right now because I'm a Red Sox fan. Piorities... :)

sp1dey
07-21-06, 02:29 PM
Good point. I'm only making a big deal about NESN HD right now because I'm a Red Sox fan. Piorities... :)

Me too, just trying to understand what technical limitations there are if any.

PaulieORF
07-21-06, 02:34 PM
Me too, just trying to understand what technical limitations there are if any.
If do end up offering NESN HD here using the current feed on the Boston spotbeam, I don't see why they couldn't do the same with YES and SNY.

sp1dey
07-21-06, 02:45 PM
I just have a difficult time believing that CT is on the NY spot beam. If it were, and it was maxed out as speculated (assuming the 2 spots being held for our ABC and Fox), then there would be no hope of CT ever getting our WB/CW and UPN/MyNetworkwhateveritscalled. Just doesn't seem logical. Unless of course this RSN thing was a stop gap measure until the new birds go up (never planned for initially). In which case, the RSN's then move to the CONUS birds freeing up the space on the spot beam to carry all major and minor networks as planned. However, if this were the case, and we are in fact on the NY spot beam, it still brings to mind, why no YES-HD?

Sorry, just the ramblings of an annoyed Red Sox fan.

raoul5788
07-21-06, 03:09 PM
I just have a difficult time believing that CT is on the NY spot beam. If it were, and it was maxed out as speculated (assuming the 2 spots being held for our ABC and Fox), then there would be no hope of CT ever getting our WB/CW and UPN/MyNetworkwhateveritscalled. Just doesn't seem logical. Unless of course this RSN thing was a stop gap measure until the new birds go up (never planned for initially). In which case, the RSN's then move to the CONUS birds freeing up the space on the spot beam to carry all major and minor networks as planned. However, if this were the case, and we are in fact on the NY spot beam, it still brings to mind, why no YES-HD?

Sorry, just the ramblings of an annoyed Red Sox fan.

Maybe because so many of the Yankee games are carried as part of the ei package in hd on channel 95.

JohnSt
07-21-06, 03:40 PM
Not sure, but I believe the Red Sox/Mariner's game tonight will be broadcasted from NESN HD on ch 95. This will be a first for me, on DTV.

PaulieORF
07-21-06, 03:46 PM
Not sure, but I believe the Red Sox/Mariner's game tonight will be broadcasted from NESN HD on ch 95. This will be a first for me, on DTV.
Correct.

Cudahy
07-21-06, 04:02 PM
Unless it's the Seattle sports channel feed(FSNW). Do they have HD?

loudo38
07-21-06, 04:07 PM
Unless it's the Seattle sports channel feed(FSNW). Do they have HD?

Yes, they do and tonights game is shown as being in HD.

JohnSt
07-21-06, 04:40 PM
Either way, at least the Sox will be in HD. I'm betting it will be on NESN, but the Sox away games are from the home team stations, well mostly.

loudo38
07-21-06, 05:22 PM
Either way, at least the Sox will be in HD. I'm betting it will be on NESN, but the Sox away games are from the home team stations, well mostly.

Right, people in Seattle and Boston, will be either happy or disappointed, depending on if the telecast is FSN NW or NESN. Others outside of those two areas, that have EI, should get it.

marjen
07-21-06, 10:14 PM
UUGGHHHH sox on 95 says not available in your area. THis is SOOOOO frustrating. I hate these rules and all the other garbage.

PaulieORF
07-21-06, 10:21 PM
UUGGHHHH sox on 95 says not available in your area. THis is SOOOOO frustrating. I hate these rules and all the other garbage.
My assumption that it would be NESN was wrong. Looks like it's FSN Northwest, which is why it's blacked out here.

sanderv
07-21-06, 10:24 PM
Well I was watching 95 and had the blue tornado logo until 10 pm and screen went black with not available in your area...... was really looking forward to watching Red Sox in HD on my own TV for the first time since they stopped the Friday games on WSBK 38 .... really really disapointing to be hoping that at least would see 1 game but Nope not on Direct. Making Cable look like a more viable option more and more. Really Disapointing.

PaulieORF
07-21-06, 10:27 PM
Well I was watching 95 and had the blue tornado logo until 10 pm and screen went black with not available in your area...... was really looking forward to watching Red Sox in HD on my own TV for the first time since they stopped the Friday games on WSBK 38 .... really really disapointing to be hoping that at least would see 1 game but Nope not on Direct. Making Cable look like a more viable option more and more. Really Disapointing.
If you upgrade your dish and reciever, you will get NESN HD where you are.

sanderv
07-21-06, 10:30 PM
If you upgrade your dish and reciever, you will get NESN HD where you are.


Forgot to mention using HD Tivo which I don't want to lose

brewer4
07-21-06, 10:39 PM
UUGGHHHH sox on 95 says not available in your area. THis is SOOOOO frustrating. I hate these rules and all the other garbage.

I know. This is why I "moved" to Boston. Got sick and tired of the BS. I am east of the Connecticut River and live in New England yet get treated like an out of market New Yorker. I get my Hartford locals OTA and love the new combo of Boston/NESN HD channels. Things will just get complicated when the new HD DVR comes out. They will problably want a personal install to replace my HD Tivo so I might have to move back before I make the swap.

bonscott87
07-21-06, 10:45 PM
Forgot to mention using HD Tivo which I don't want to lose

No need to lose it. Get the dish upgrade and the H20 on the side at no cost. The HD Tivo will work just fine, you just can see or record the MPEG 4 stations. Other then that itwill work just as it always has and will continue to do so until they decide to convert all HD over to MPEG 4 which is probably at least a year away if not more.

wyatt9696
07-22-06, 08:37 AM
I know. This is why I "moved" to Boston. Got sick and tired of the BS. I am east of the Connecticut River and live in New England yet get treated like an out of market New Yorker. I get my Hartford locals OTA and love the new combo of Boston/NESN HD channels. Things will just get complicated when the new HD DVR comes out. They will problably want a personal install to replace my HD Tivo so I might have to move back before I make the swap.

i'm thrilled with my set-up at this time. all 4 boston locals, vs. ct 2, NESN HD, CT OTA, the only thing i use CT locals for is the news. for that, ota is just fine. life is good.

yeah, i was thinking about the swap out as well. Halsted(installers in CT) do only personal installs. will most definitely have to "move" back for the swap.

ScoBuck
07-22-06, 09:05 PM
Some audio problems today on YES-HD (channel 96 MPEG4). Picture was pretty good overall. How are the other RSN lils doing.

But scores were good today in the AL East. :)

I WANT MORE
07-28-06, 09:02 PM
"On 7/1/2006, HD RSNs will be launching on the following networks in certain local markets areas:

"Games Only": YES, FSN Prime Ticket, FSN West, FSN Bay Area, FSN Southwest, FSN South, FSN Detroit, FSN Florida, STO, FSN North, FSN Northwest, FSN Arizona, FSN Rocky Mountain, Turner South. NESN will be HD 24/7.

In August 2006, CSN Chicago and CSN Mid-Atlantic will go 24/7 in HD. SNY will be available for games only.

In mid-October 2006, MSG, FSN New York, Sun Sports, and FSN Ohio will be available for games only.

This channels WILL NOT be available CONUS, only available in the local channel market. For example, NESN will be available only for customers who can get Red Sox as a part of their regular RSN."
Twins/Tigers are on FSN North now. I don't get it on D. Called and the advanced tech said that they are having "issues" and are unable to broadcast it at this time. Sorry, will post a credit on your account. Anyone else had this happen?

Ken H
07-28-06, 09:21 PM
Twins/Tigers are on FSN North now. I don't get it on D. Called and the advanced tech said that they are having "issues" and are unable to broadcast it at this time. Sorry, will post a credit on your account. Anyone else had this happen?
Do you have the new 5-lnb dish & H20 receiver?

I WANT MORE
07-28-06, 09:38 PM
Yes, Just had it installed on Wednesday specifically for the HD RSNs.

bonscott87
07-28-06, 09:54 PM
Being in South Dakota (if your location is accurate) I don't think you get your locals in HD via DirecTV do you? If so then I don't think you'll get your RSN in HD.

BruceS
07-29-06, 12:01 PM
Everyone seems to be saying that there is not enough bandwith to provide the MLB Extra Innings games in HD to out of market subscribers. Since I believe D* is able to provide all NFL games is HD, why couldn't they us the NFL channels to broadcast MLB games until the start of the NFL season?

richall01
07-29-06, 12:56 PM
If you wiil note on Sundays they cut out a lot of PPV channels including channel 99 (HD PVV) even CD USA on 101 to free up bandwith. They can't do that durring the week. All this will change when the new birds are up next year.

I WANT MORE
07-29-06, 02:32 PM
Being in South Dakota (if your location is accurate) I don't think you get your locals in HD via DirecTV do you? If so then I don't think you'll get your RSN in HD.
I spoke w/ several individuals @ D before I upgraded and they assured me that I was in the spotbeam for FSNN HD. Now they are saying that they are experiencing problems.

Ken H
07-29-06, 02:39 PM
I spoke w/ several individuals @ D before I upgraded and they assured me that I was in the spotbeam for FSNN HD. Now they are saying that they are experiencing problems.You may want to check the HDTV Locals forum, to see if others in your area are having the same problem.

ScoBuck
08-01-06, 09:23 AM
Round 2 of RSN launches?

Tonights Mets-Marlins game is listed on Channel 97 in NY DMA. It is ALSO listing the Yankees on BOTH channel 95 AND 96.

Thanks DirecTV - the HD sports leader. :)

ScoBuck
08-01-06, 09:52 AM
Can anyone from the Chicago DMA - and from the Baltimore DMA verify getting ComCast SportsNet stations in 24/7 HD (would have same channel number as the SD channel).

I WANT MORE
08-01-06, 09:52 AM
Can anyone clarify? What sat are these new HD RSNs supposed to be coming from? As mentioned earlier I had the AT9 installed and have an H20. I do not get any signal on the 2 new sats. D tells me that is normal and the HD RSNs are broadcast from one of the original 3. Is this really the case?

ScoBuck
08-01-06, 09:55 AM
Can anyone clarify? What sat are these new HD RSNs supposed to be coming from? As mentioned earlier I had the AT9 installed and have an H20. I do not get any signal on the 2 new sats. D tells me that is normal and the HD RSNs are broadcast from one of the original 3. Is this really the case?

The HD-RSN channels are ALL off of either Spaceway1 or Spaceway2 these ARE the 2 NEW birds.. In order to 'see' them, you must be able to get your locals from DirecTV in MPEG4 AND be in the home DMA of the RSN.

The ONLY exception is Channel 95 which is the 'legacy' HD sports channel, it is from the 119 bird, and is in MPEG2, this channel is available nationwide to MLB EI subs.

rkunces
08-01-06, 10:12 AM
Round 2 of RSN launches?

Tonights Mets-Marlins game is listed on Channel 97 in NY DMA. It is ALSO listing the Yankees on BOTH channel 95 AND 96.

Thanks DirecTV - the HD sports leader. :)

:( Not showing up on my guide right now, just the Yanks on Ch. 95

jsh5771
08-01-06, 10:37 AM
Can anyone from the Chicago DMA - and from the Baltimore DMA verify getting ComCast SportsNet stations in 24/7 HD (would have same channel number as the SD channel).

In the DC area, I can confirm that we are now getting Comcast Sportsnet Mid Atlantic in HD on channel 629 (there are now 2 channel 629's - first one is SD, second HD).

mikeny
08-01-06, 11:07 AM
The ONLY exception is Channel 95 which is the 'legacy' HD sports channel, it is from the 119 bird, and is in MPEG2, this channel is available nationwide to MLB EI subs.

..and for the DMA subs of the source network feed

evil
08-01-06, 02:45 PM
ANY, news on comcast sportsnet chicago HD , channel number or time it will start on directv.

Baldmaga
08-01-06, 03:39 PM
I know this has been discussed for months and months...but because I don't get HD locals from Lafayette, I won't be able to get FSN Southwest in HD?

And here is another question...when those 2 new birds are launched, will this spotbeam garbage be a thing of the past, and all HD RSN's go CONUS? Because I would love to see my D-Backs in HD, but being in Louisiana, I dont' get to see them at all (in HD).

I WANT MORE
08-01-06, 03:45 PM
The HD-RSN channels are ALL off of either Spaceway1 or Spaceway2 these ARE the 2 NEW birds.. In order to 'see' them, you must be able to get your locals from DirecTV in MPEG4 AND be in the home DMA of the RSN.

The ONLY exception is Channel 95 which is the 'legacy' HD sports channel, it is from the 119 bird, and is in MPEG2, this channel is available nationwide to MLB EI subs.
IT'S OFFICIAL. No HD RSNs for me. Despite numerous D ee's telling me "Oh Yea, get the AT9 and an H20 and you'll be watching the Twins in HD." Not so. The good news is they credited me back for everything so I got the AT9 and a H20 installed for free.

ScoBuck
08-01-06, 03:47 PM
ANY, news on comcast sportsnet chicago HD , channel number or time it will start on directv.

Channel number will be the same as the SD channel. Why don't YOU take a look and see if its on (if you're in Chicago) - and let US KNOW! lol

ScoBuck
08-01-06, 03:48 PM
IT'S OFFICIAL. No HD RSNs for me. Despite numerous D ee's telling me "Oh Yea, get the AT9 and an H20 and you'll be watching the Twins in HD." Not so. The good news is they credited me back for everything so I got the AT9 and a H20 installed for free.

If you have been reading this (as well as the D* adding NESN-HD thread), you really shouldn't be surprised about this. There are PLENTY of posts by subs from CT and other New England areas about NOT being able to get NESN.

Anyhow, hope it changes for you in the near future!

bguild
08-01-06, 04:09 PM
Guys, got the 5lnb and the HR20 installed today. I'm like a kid in a candy store now that I FINALLY have NESNHD on DirecTV. FYI, though, I am having some PQ issues only on NESN HD. Very pixelated during scenes with a lot of fast movement. For example, the delivery of a pitch, swing of a bad, or celebration at home plate. What's up with that?

raoul5788
08-01-06, 04:54 PM
Guys, got the 5lnb and the HR20 installed today. I'm like a kid in a candy store now that I FINALLY have NESNHD on DirecTV. FYI, though, I am having some PQ issues only on NESN HD. Very pixelated during scenes with a lot of fast movement. For example, the delivery of a pitch, swing of a bad, or celebration at home plate. What's up with that?

There are numerous reports similiar to yours. You should let Directv know about your experience. Unless they get this information from alot of customers, it's unlikely they will address it.

ScoBuck
08-01-06, 06:38 PM
SNY-HD HAS ARRIVED It just lit up on channel 97 in NY DMA. Mets pregame show is on.

Thanks D* - the undisputed HD sports leader!!!!!!!!!

LarryC
08-01-06, 06:43 PM
I have the H20 and the 5LNB dish, but I only see a single channel 629 (Comcast Sports Net Mid Atlantic). :(

evil
08-01-06, 07:47 PM
No comcast sportsnet chicago hd, yet!

Psalazar83
08-01-06, 08:13 PM
Question, folks. I'm well within the area for my RSN, but I don't have the 5LNB upgrade. Does this mean I won't see ANYthing on 97 for SNYHD?

raoul5788
08-01-06, 08:16 PM
Question, folks. I'm well within the area for my RSN, but I don't have the 5LNB upgrade. Does this mean I won't see ANYthing on 97 for SNYHD?


That's what it means. You need the 5 lnb dish and an H20 to get mpeg4 channels.

MidVill
08-01-06, 08:28 PM
Is SNY on D* ch. 97 suppose to be HD? It is widescreen on my tv.

Psalazar83
08-01-06, 08:35 PM
Is SNY on D* ch. 97 suppose to be HD? It is widescreen on my tv.


Road games won't be in HD.

MidVill
08-01-06, 08:46 PM
Road games won't be in HD.

Aren't games on the road for the Yankees on YES in HD?

hdtvjunkie247
08-01-06, 08:54 PM
Select road games from YES are in HD.

Edit: Here's the YES-HD Road Game Schedule for the rest of the season.

August 4 Baltimore Orioles 7:05 p.m.
August 5 Baltimore Orioles 4:35 p.m.
August 6 Baltimore Orioles 1:35 p.m.
August 8 Chicago White Sox 8:05 p.m.
August 9 Chicago White Sox 8:05 p.m.
August 10 Chicago White Sox 8:05 p.m.
August 21 Boston Red Sox 1:05 p.m.
September 9 Baltimore Orioles 4:35 p.m.
September 10 Baltimore Orioles 1:35 p.m.
September 11 Baltimore Orioles 7:05 p.m.
September 18 Toronto Blue Jays 7:05 p.m.
September 19 Toronto Blue Jays 7:05 p.m.
September 20 Toronto Blue Jays 7:05 p.m.

raoul5788
08-01-06, 08:57 PM
Road games won't be in HD.

Selected road games ARE in hd on SNY. This is one of them I think. Edit. Now I hear it isn't. Sorry, my bad.

Scott G
08-01-06, 11:44 PM
Selected road games ARE in hd on SNY. This is one of them I think. Edit. Now I hear it isn't. Sorry, my bad.

No, SNY only does home games in HD.

Psalazar83
08-02-06, 12:54 AM
Well, I just scheduled a free upgrade for the 11th.

Can you believe they wanted $50 + $20 shipping and handling?

ScoBuck
08-02-06, 06:55 AM
No, SNY only does home games in HD.

So Far - But they announced that they WILL do selected road Games also. Last year YES only did a total of 6 (mostly from Boston, 1 from Shea)

Scott G
08-02-06, 08:07 AM
So Far - But they announced that they WILL do selected road Games also. Last year YES only did a total of 6 (mostly from Boston, 1 from Shea)

Maybe next season. They changed that at the start of the season. They are only doing home games this season.

ScoBuck
08-02-06, 08:44 AM
Maybe next season. They changed that at the start of the season. They are only doing home games this season.

So Be It!

talbain
08-02-06, 10:18 AM
so it begs the question then of why would directv launch the mpeg 4 sny hd channel with no hd game scheduled until friday...

herrfish1
08-02-06, 10:30 AM
I saw that Turner South was listed in the D* press release as having some Atlanta Braves games in HD. Has anyone gotten a Braves' game on Turner South in HD yet via D*? I know I haven't. Of course, I'm not wasting my time calling D* to ask! :confused:

ad301
08-02-06, 10:45 AM
so it begs the question then of why would directv launch the mpeg 4 sny hd channel with no hd game scheduled until friday...
My hr10 now shows, on ch 95, Mets @ Marlins Thu 8/3 7pm.

raoul5788
08-02-06, 11:13 AM
My hr10 now shows, on ch 95, Mets @ Marlins Thu 8/3 7pm.

That COULD be the Marlins feed.

nyupipe
08-02-06, 02:35 PM
So the only MPEG 4 channels currently being offered are locals and RSNs correct? In the NYC area are the locals available in both MPEG2 and 4? YES in on MPEG2 correct?

Any news on additional Directv HD channels?

Sorry for going outside the RSN topic

mikeny
08-02-06, 03:38 PM
In NY, as of today, locals are mpeg-2 and mpeg-4. YES and SNY are on mpeg-4. They're on mpeg-2 only when it's a MLB Extra Innings broadcast.

anthonybay
08-02-06, 05:31 PM
Yesterday here in N.Y. directv had two feeds running of the yankees game (ch 95 and 96) as well as a single feed of the Mets. I switched between the two yankee feeds and noticed that when there was movement (pitcher winding up, etc) the motion was almost like a few frames were misiing like watching an old movie.On CH 95 the picture was perfect without this problem. The met game was experiencing the same artifacts. Is this mpeg 4 (96) vs mpeg 2(ch 95) growing pains?

rkunces
08-02-06, 06:12 PM
Yesterday here in N.Y. directv had two feeds running of the yankees game (ch 95 and 96) as well as a single feed of the Mets. I switched between the two yankee feeds and noticed that when there was movement (pitcher winding up, etc) the motion was almost like a few frames were misiing like watching an old movie.On CH 95 the picture was perfect without this problem. The met game was experiencing the same artifacts. Is this mpeg 4 (96) vs mpeg 2(ch 95) growing pains?

I also noticed this. There seemed to be a framerate problem with the game almost as if the channel had a weak signal. I noticed this on both the yanks and Mets game except on Ch. 95.

keenan
08-02-06, 06:52 PM
Sounds like one of the MPEG4/1080i channel issues that seems to be reported fairly often by both Dish and DirecTV subs. It always seems to be the 1080i based channels that have a motion-based problem. I rarely see any 720p channels mentioned, they usually have an audio sync problem. Welcome to the bleeding edge. :p

NESN is 1080i based too I'll bet.

tbb1226
08-02-06, 07:34 PM
In NY, as of today, locals are mpeg-2 and mpeg-4. YES and SNY are on mpeg-4. They're on mpeg-2 only when it's a MLB Extra Innings broadcast.YES HD is on channel 95 (MPEG2) pretty much every day that YES has an HD game to offer. Extra Innings has nothing to do with that DirecTV decision.

On rare occasions, there will be some other two teams in MPEG2 HD on channel 95, but at least 80% of the programming (and 90% of the MLB programming) on that channel is Yankee games.

At least, it feels that way to those of us who would like to see some other teams play once in a while in HD. :( ;)

raoul5788
08-02-06, 07:35 PM
I hope that all of you that are experiencing these problems are reporting them to D* and E*. The more people that report them the more likely it is that something will be done.

richall01
08-02-06, 08:56 PM
I saw that Turner South was listed in the D* press release as having some Atlanta Braves games in HD. Has anyone gotten a Braves' game on Turner South in HD yet via D*? I know I haven't. Of course, I'm not wasting my time calling D* to ask! :confused:

Right now you must have Atlanta local HD channels to get Braves in HD. My tv has been under repair the last week could not check. I have called DirecTV several times about this. "Turner South and Fox Sports Net South are RSN' s NOT a local channel." They say you must be in the spot beam (I am) so why can't I get it. None of the CSR's had a clue. They start talking about the new satellites (reading from there quirt book). :mad:

evil
08-02-06, 09:21 PM
Here what I got from Directv.

Thanks for asking about Comcast SportsNet Chicago in HD. I have great news – we recently expanded our HD coverage to include White Sox games broadcast in HD by Comcast SportsNet Chicago on channel 640 and it has an alternate channel on 668. For details, check your on screen program guide or tune to that channel.

If you have HD equipment and an RSN is included in your programming package you should be able to see games in HD. If you are not getting your RSN’s games in HD, you may need to upgrade your equipment in order to see them, please call us at (800) 531-5000 and select the option for technical assistance. A representative will be happy to help you get the equipment you need.

Thanks again for writing and stay tuned to directv.com/hd for the latest news about HD programming on DIRECTV.

Sincerely,

mikeny
08-02-06, 09:28 PM
YES HD is on channel 95 (MPEG2) pretty much every day that YES has an HD game to offer. Extra Innings has nothing to do with that DirecTV decision.

On rare occasions, there will be some other two teams in MPEG2 HD on channel 95, but at least 80% of the programming (and 90% of the MLB programming) on that channel is Yankee games.

At least, it feels that way to those of us who would like to see some other teams play once in a while in HD. :( ;)

However, that (thankfully for me) being the case and as we've discussed here, YES HD is not guarranteed day to day in mpeg-2.

ad301
08-04-06, 09:55 AM
My hr10 now shows, on ch 95, Mets @ Marlins Thu 8/3 7pm.That COULD be the Marlins feed.Yup, it must have been, as the program was "not available" in the NY DMA. :(

Kevin12586
08-04-06, 01:33 PM
The game was on channel 97 last night, just not in HD. In my guide, I also had two 97's, when I went to the second one, the game came up (or at least tried to, the feed was TERRIBLE and un-watchable) but the game was there.

PaulieORF
08-04-06, 01:38 PM
The game was on channel 97 last night, just not in HD. In my guide, I also had two 97's, when I went to the second one, the game came up (or at least tried to, the feed was TERRIBLE and un-watchable) but the game was there.
I think the SD feed was an SNY issue. I read in another forum that Comcast people were also getting the SD version of the game preempting INHD2.

Whitesox18
08-04-06, 03:59 PM
What's up guys. Go to the D T.V. website and check out HD programming. Click on HD sports and you'll see what RSN'S In HD are on and which ones are coming. Comcast sports net In Chicago Is listed as coming soon.
Bob

Baldmaga
08-04-06, 05:22 PM
When asking why I have not been able to receive their HD broadcasts of FSN Southwest:

"We sincerely apologize that you have not been able to watch FSN Southwest in HD. I have great news – we recently expanded our HD coverage to include Dallas and Houston games broadcast in HD by FSN Southwest on channel 96 or 97. For details, check your on screen program guide."

I just love how they didn't answer my question at all. I obviously know that they've expanded coverage, and made that apparent in my question.

Looks like I'll just have to resubmit that message...

mikeny
08-04-06, 07:10 PM
Well I got my H20s and AT9 dish this afternoon....1st impression of YES HD on Channel 96 and SNY on Channel 97 is that there are unnatural frame rate issues going on. YES on Conus looks natural.

Whoa..there's a blast by Johnny Damon! Way to kick off a game!

Ken H
08-04-06, 07:32 PM
What's up guys. You're late. This topic covered all that last month.

Oh, DTV = Digital TV, as in over-the-air.
D* = DirecTV

Baldmaga
08-05-06, 02:13 PM
I have a question. If a game is being broadcasted MPEG-2 HD on ch. 95, can viewers in the teams local market be blacked out if it is broadcast in SD on it's regular channel?

I say this because, I finally will get a D-Backs game in HD tonight, but living in Louisiana, I'm often blacked out of nationally broadcast Astros games...will this be the same way tonight?

Baldmaga
08-06-06, 01:05 AM
I guess watching tonight answered my own question.

Ken H
08-07-06, 06:36 PM
A note for Detroit area DirecTV subs: It appears the Tigers will be on channel 95 tonight, at home vs. the Twinkies (nee Twins). It should be available to all HD subs, not just those with the MPEG4 H20 & AT-9 hardware.

Ken H
08-07-06, 07:26 PM
Looks like I got my hopes up for nothing. It's unwatchable, with breakups in both image & sound every few seconds.

keenan
08-07-06, 07:36 PM
On D* channel 95? Just turned it on and it's looks pretty darn good here.

bidger
08-07-06, 07:59 PM
A note for Detroit area DirecTV subs: It appears the Tigers will be on channel 95 tonight, at home vs. the Twinkies (nee Twins). It should be available to all HD subs, not just those with the MPEG4 H20 & AT-9 hardware.
I'm assuming you meant all HD subs with MLBEI.

tbb1226
08-07-06, 09:10 PM
I'm assuming you meant all HD subs with MLBEI.And those whose service address is in the Detroit DMA.

TulsaCoker
08-08-06, 08:46 AM
On D* channel 95? Just turned it on and it's looks pretty darn good here.

Darn that Mpeg4 HD-Lite :D

loudo38
08-08-06, 09:39 AM
In the Orlando market the HD locals, at times, are very jittery, looks like they are running on about 2/3 of the required frames. Glad I still have my OTA setup. it is a lot sharper and smoother picture, than the satellite transmissions. I have not noticed it though on 96 (Marlins Baseball games). That seems to be a lot cleaner with only a small occassional flash of pixelation.

mikeny
08-08-06, 09:53 AM
Darn that Mpeg4 HD-Lite :D
channel 95 should be Mpeg2 HD-Lite

TulsaCoker
08-08-06, 09:59 AM
channel 95 should be Mpeg2 HD-Lite

No RSN's are Mpeg4

loudo38
08-08-06, 10:08 AM
No RSN's are Mpeg4

Individual RSN baseball games in certain markets are in MPG4 (on channels 96 & 97) and NESN is the first full time RSN, in MPG4, in the Boston area.

keenan
08-08-06, 11:39 AM
Darn that Mpeg4 HD-Lite :D
Ch 95 is MPEG2 CONUS.

TulsaCoker
08-08-06, 12:23 PM
Ch 95 is MPEG2 CONUS.

And you said it looks pretty darn good. Now don't start a D* is great thread. :D

p.s. 13,000 post cheer cheer

keenan
08-08-06, 02:21 PM
And you said it looks pretty darn good. Now don't start a D* is great thread. :D

p.s. 13,000 post cheer cheer
The stuff I see from YES-HD and some of the other RSNs that have games on Ch 95 have looked very good, it seems to be dependent on the RSN as some have looked pretty bad. DirecTV does have the occasional gem when it comes to PQ, there's no doubt about that, it makes me wonder since these are one-off feeds if they don't bother to mess with it much.

13,000 wow, I hadn't even noticed that, I gotta get a life.. :eek: :D

elove
08-08-06, 02:36 PM
I am in the Washington DC area. Sorry for the dumb question, but when I tune to channel 95, I get a service not available message. What do I need to do in order to see my local teams in HD. What channel do I tune to? I have both MPEG 2 and MPEG 4 HD receivers.

Thanks!

henry296
08-08-06, 02:47 PM
elove,

ComcastSportsNet is available on a separate channel 629 (same # as CSN-SD) in HD. It will only be on the MPEG4 receiver.

elove
08-08-06, 02:50 PM
elove,

ComcastSportsNet is available on a separate channel 629 (same # as CSN-SD) in HD. It will only be on the MPEG4 receiver.


henry296,

Thanks! So let me see if I understand this, if I tune to channel 629 and the game is available in HD, it will be shown in HD on channel 629 on my MPEG 4 receiver.

henry296
08-08-06, 03:55 PM
I think you have 2 versions of 629, one HD and one SD.

I don't have D* anymore, but that is what I've read.

loudo38
08-08-06, 04:20 PM
I think you have 2 versions of 629, one HD and one SD.

I don't have D* anymore, but that is what I've read.

On D*, unless it has changed the last few days, I think the only HD RSN channel, that is in the 600's is NESN. They are HD all the time.

The only HD programing from the others are individual baseball games, on either channel 96 or 97.

raoul5788
08-08-06, 05:16 PM
On D*, unless it has changed the last few days, I think the only HD RSN channel, that is in the 600's is NESN. They are HD all the time.

The only HD programing from the others are individual baseball games, on either channel 96 or 97.

ComcastSportsNet Chicago is one of the full time hd rsn's that have been launched by D*, so it should be the same number as the sd channel, which is apparently 629.

henry296
08-08-06, 05:52 PM
629 is ComcastSportsNet MidAtlantic.

Sorry for the confusion about the duplicate channels.

LarryC
08-08-06, 06:27 PM
Channel 629 Comcast Sports Net Mid Atlantic HD is ONLY being offered to customers in the Washington DC DMA. :mad:

Despite the fact that they are showing BALTIMORE Orioles in HD, they are currently excluding all Baltimore-area (DMA) zip codes from getting CSN-MA HD.

I'm waiting to hear the logic in denying CSNMA-HD to customers in Baltimore who:

subscribe to HD package,
subscribe to Baltimore HD locals,
subscribe to Sports package,
currently receive CSNMA-SD,
and have upgraded to the new H20 and 5LNB dish,

despite the fact that they are showing Baltimore Orioles games in HD.

If you live in Northern VA, south PA, CHarlestown WV, or 1600 Pennsylvania Ave Wash DC, you can watch the (out of market?) Orioles on CSNMA-HD, but if you live in teh Baltimore DMA, you are out of luck.

Classic DirecTV. I can't wait to hear the reasoning behind this one. :mad:

raoul5788
08-08-06, 07:35 PM
629 is ComcastSportsNet MidAtlantic.

Sorry for the confusion about the duplicate channels.

That's okay, it was I that was confused. CSN MA, CSN Chicago, and NESN are the three full time hd rsn's (so far anyway).

MarcusInMD
08-08-06, 08:29 PM
Channel 629 Comcast Sports Net Mid Atlantic HD is ONLY being offered to customers in the Washington DC DMA. :mad:

Despite the fact that they are showing BALTIMORE Orioles in HD, they are currently excluding all Baltimore-area (DMA) zip codes from getting CSN-MA HD.

I'm waiting to hear the logic in denying CSNMA-HD to customers in Baltimore who:

subscribe to HD package,
subscribe to Baltimore HD locals,
subscribe to Sports package,
currently receive CSNMA-SD,
and have upgraded to the new H20 and 5LNB dish,

despite the fact that they are showing Baltimore Orioles games in HD.

If you live in Northern VA, south PA, CHarlestown WV, or 1600 Pennsylvania Ave Wash DC, you can watch the (out of market?) Orioles on CSNMA-HD, but if you live in teh Baltimore DMA, you are out of luck.

Classic DirecTV. I can't wait to hear the reasoning behind this one. :mad:

OMG, you have got to be kidding me? Where did you hear this?

LarryC
08-08-06, 08:57 PM
OMG, you have got to be kidding me? Where did you hear this?

I'm living it, right now.

dgordo
08-08-06, 10:13 PM
That's okay, it was I that was confused. CSN MA, CSN Chicago, and NESN are the three full time hd rsn's (so far anyway).


I dont think CSN Chicago is live yet.

raoul5788
08-09-06, 12:12 AM
I dont think CSN Chicago is live yet.

Maybe not. It was scheduled to go live sometime in August.

evil
08-09-06, 01:20 AM
I dont think CSN Chicago is live yet.

It isn't up yet, Wedsenday game is a great match up and would be the perfect time to turn the channel on. Other wise espn-hd is doing the game, but it will be blackout in the chicago market, channel 95 is the YES feed so no go there. :rolleyes:

dgordo
08-09-06, 09:48 AM
It isn't up yet, Wedsenday game is a great match up and would be the perfect time to turn the channel on. Other wise espn-hd is doing the game, but it will be blackout in the chicago market, channel 95 is the YES feed so no go there. :rolleyes:


I agree, it would be a great time to turn the HD feed on but I hear that the HD feed wont go live until August 18 for the Cubs/Cardinals game.

evil
08-09-06, 02:52 PM
What! Why the 18th? the cubs are out of the race this year, that's just stupid.

dgordo
08-10-06, 11:35 AM
Well, although Im not a fan of either team, last I saw, cubs fans out number sox fans 4 to 1. Maybe that is why?

austen0316
08-10-06, 12:08 PM
is sny hd on directv yet?

Baldmaga
08-10-06, 12:18 PM
is sny hd on directv yet?

If you get the NY HD Locals via D*, just check your guide to see if there are two ch. 625's

raoul5788
08-10-06, 12:51 PM
If you get the NY HD Locals via D*, just check your guide to see if there are two ch. 625's

It's not a full time hd channel, so it won't be the same number as the sd channel. Look for it on channel 96 or 97. You must be in the NY dma to get it in hd.

Baldmaga
08-10-06, 01:15 PM
It's not a full time hd channel, so it won't be the same number as the sd channel. Look for it on channel 96 or 97. You must be in the NY dma to get it in hd.

My Mistake. I thought SNY was one of those 24/7 channels.

sjso395
08-10-06, 01:47 PM
I would like to see D* add the Cox TV sports HD feed out of New Orleans. They have NFL preseason games in HD and Hornet games in HD. Even though Cox is the New Orleans cable affiliate down here, surrounding Cable companies from Texas to Florida carry the channel. I e-mailed DIRECTV and got the usual canned response :"We're sorry but we dont offer that channel" .. No joke, that's why I'm E-mailing you moron....

evil
08-10-06, 03:03 PM
Well, although Im not a fan of either team, last I saw, cubs fans out number sox fans 4 to 1. Maybe that is why?

The Sox will draw 3 million fans this year to the ballpark, plus the fact that they are the WORLD CHAMPS helps draw in more tv viewers. :)

dgordo
08-10-06, 06:25 PM
The Sox will draw 3 million fans this year to the ballpark, plus the fact that they are the WORLD CHAMPS helps draw in more tv viewers. :)

I understand all that, personally I would rather watch a sox game myself but dont kid yourself about who most people in chicago would rather watch.

Slickone
08-10-06, 11:47 PM
I understand all that, personally I would rather watch a sox game myself but dont kid yourself about who most people in chicago would rather watch.

Cubs fans go to the game to get drunk, because I would'nt want to watch that crappy product they put on the field, sober.

Nuff of that, Why can't I watch the champs in HD tonight on D*

fredfa
08-11-06, 12:09 AM
The Sox will draw 3 million fans this year to the ballpark, plus the fact that they are the WORLD CHAMPS helps draw in more tv viewers. :)

That may be the case in Chicago (I have no ready access to Chicago local ratings), but there is no evidence of that nationally. As best I can tell the Sox broadcasts have not drawn more viewers out of market.

And trust me, Fox is not hoping for the Sox to repeat as AL champs.

The Yankees, Red Sox and Mets have all spiked the national ratings this year. But not the Sox.

keenan
08-11-06, 12:19 AM
That may be the case in Chicago (I have no ready access to Chicago local ratings), but there is no evidence of that nationally. As best I can tell the Sox broadcasts have not drawn more viewers out of market.

And trust me, Fox is not hoping for the Sox to repeat as AL champs.

The Yankees, Red Sox and Mets have all spiked the national ratings this year. But not the Sox.
YES Network just did a graphic that showed, per Nielsen, that they are the most watched RSN in the country.

fredfa
08-11-06, 12:39 AM
Much as many of us might not like the Yankees, they do draw the eyeballs -- which is why DirecTV puts so many YES games on Channel 95.

Hopefully by next season there will be far more capacity and there will a much bigger selection of HD games on MLB EI.

keenan
08-11-06, 12:44 AM
Much as many of us might not like the Yankees, they do draw the eyeballs -- which is why DirecTV puts so many YES games on Channel 95.

Hopefully by next season there will be far more capacity and there will a much bigger selection of HD games on MLB EI.
Yup, because I can't see the Giants in HD, the Yankees have become "my team" by default.

Trying to remember the graphic and I think it said 27,000,000 viewers from Dec to June, something like that, does that sound about right, maybe it was per month...??

Baldmaga
08-11-06, 01:20 AM
Much as many of us might not like the Yankees, they do draw the eyeballs -- which is why DirecTV puts so many YES games on Channel 95.

Hopefully by next season there will be far more capacity and there will a much bigger selection of HD games on MLB EI.

I'm sure when the bandwidth is available, we will see about 90% of all available HD games...for a nice litle chunk of change too :( :mad:

evil
08-11-06, 02:05 AM
Yup, because I can't see the Giants in HD, the Yankees have become "my team" by default.

Trying to remember the graphic and I think it said 27,000,000 viewers from Dec to June, something like that, does that sound about right, maybe it was per month...??

Here is the thing about that, New York is the BIGGEST market in the nation so of course they going to draw the big numbers. If they don't then there is something very wrong. Also bigger doesn't equal better, there might be some smaller rsn that do some stuff better than YES.

dgordo
08-11-06, 11:51 AM
Cubs fans go to the game to get drunk, because I would'nt want to watch that crappy product they put on the field, sober.

Nuff of that, Why can't I watch the champs in HD tonight on D*

I'm sure no one drinks at sox games and whether that is true or not doesn't change the fact that cub fans out number sox fans 4-1. Obviously the sox are the better team but D* is not concerned with whom is the better team, just who gets better ratings.

evil
08-11-06, 02:25 PM
I'm sure no one drinks at sox games and whether that is true or not doesn't change the fact that cub fans out number sox fans 4-1. Obviously the sox are the better team but D* is not concerned with whom is the better team, just who gets better ratings.

Where did you come up with the cubs fans out number sox fans 4 to 1. :rolleyes:

It's more like for every three cubs fans there are two soxs fans out there.Also the rating for sox game are going to be better than cubs game because they are in the race for the wildcard, the only race the cubs are in is for the top draft choice, and even then they are going to lose that to. :D

dgordo
08-11-06, 04:19 PM
WGN ratings of cub telecasts vs sox telecast show the 4-1 advantage. This is on a national scale not local. Maybe on a local scale the numbers are closer.

evil
08-12-06, 12:39 AM
I was talking about in the city of chicago, not outside of that.

I do not know why the sox aren't as loved as the cubs outside of the city, but whatever.

Slickone
08-12-06, 01:34 AM
I'm sure no one drinks at sox games and whether that is true or not doesn't change the fact that cub fans out number sox fans 4-1. Obviously the sox are the better team but D* is not concerned with whom is the better team, just who gets better ratings.

Have you checked out the recent poll that your Cubbie owners, the Tribune, just did. The Sox have overtaken the Bears as the #2 team in Chicago, and are only about 8% behind the Scrubs. Face it, Cubs suck we all know it. Live with it.

sjso395
08-12-06, 12:03 PM
I see this has become the Chicago "which team is better?" forum

ScoBuck
08-12-06, 12:56 PM
Here is the thing about that, New York is the BIGGEST market in the nation so of course they going to draw the big numbers. If they don't then there is something very wrong. Also bigger doesn't equal better, there might be some smaller rsn that do some stuff better than YES.

IMO, thats doubtful.

dgordo
08-12-06, 01:03 PM
Have you checked out the recent poll that your Cubbie owners, the Tribune, just did. The Sox have overtaken the Bears as the #2 team in Chicago, and are only about 8% behind the Scrubs. Face it, Cubs suck we all know it. Live with it.


I said it before and Ill say it again clearly so you can understand me. I AM NOT A CUBS FAN. I DONT CARE ABOUT THE CUBS. Living and working in chicago I am surrounded by fans of both teams and it is apparent that when the sox win their fans support them, when they lose the fans go away. Cub fans show up whether the team is good or as is most often the case, not good, plus it seems everyone from Iowa shows up at cub games. Everyone knows the sox are the better team but that has not translated to better ratings for sox games.

evil
08-14-06, 07:49 PM
Any news on directv adding the rest of those rsn's? They still have not add Comcast sportsnet Chicago or SNY, yet. Any new info?

raoul5788
08-14-06, 08:01 PM
Any news on directv adding the rest of those rsn's? They still have not add Comcast sportsnet Chicago or SNY, yet. Any new info?

I believe I read on another board that CSN Chicago is scheduled to go live on the 18th. I'm not sure about SNY, though.

ScoBuck
08-14-06, 08:57 PM
I believe I read on another board that CSN Chicago is scheduled to go live on the 18th. I'm not sure about SNY, though.

SNY went live on August 1st. I know - I live in the NY DMA. They are only HD for Mets home games though, SNY is NOT producing the away games in HD.

evil
08-14-06, 09:52 PM
So the only channel that isn't up yet comcast sportsnet chicago. The one I want the most of all.

Peakster
08-18-06, 09:27 AM
So this is live on channel 629 in Northern Virginia? Is this a full-time channel? Is SportsNight in HD? Any other shows, or just baseball?
You have to subscribe to the HD package to get this, right? How does this work if the HD and Sd share channel 629--if you drop the HD package, it reverts to SD? Seems weird.

Baldmaga
08-18-06, 12:47 PM
something that really bothers me is when an Astros or Rangers game is played in HD on ESPN, but because it's on local channel in Houston or Dallas, I can't watch the game. One of the most ridiculous rules in baseball. Especially since I live 6 hours from Dallas and 3 hours from Houston.

dg28
08-18-06, 01:13 PM
So this is live on channel 629 in Northern Virginia? Is this a full-time channel? Is SportsNight in HD? Any other shows, or just baseball?
You have to subscribe to the HD package to get this, right? How does this work if the HD and Sd share channel 629--if you drop the HD package, it reverts to SD? Seems weird.

It works the same way as other MPEG4 channels work. For example, both the SD and HD channels are labeled as channel 4 on D*. So with CSNHD the first 629 is the SD version and the second 629 is the HD version. Yes, CSNHD on D* is full-time.

dc10forlife
08-18-06, 03:13 PM
Any word on when out of market RSN's will be available in HD? That would probably seal the deal form me as far as D* is concerned. Does E* have out of market RSN's available in HD?

bonscott87
08-18-06, 03:20 PM
Any word on when out of market RSN's will be available in HD? That would probably seal the deal form me as far as D* is concerned. Does E* have out of market RSN's available in HD?

Not until the next 2 sats go up and they get the ability to send then out via CONUS beams. Right now they can only send them on the spotbeams along with the locals. Besides, out of market RSNs are worthless anyway since they are always blacked out for any major sport and many college events.

Baldmaga
08-18-06, 03:22 PM
Any word on when out of market RSN's will be available in HD? That would probably seal the deal form me as far as D* is concerned. Does E* have out of market RSN's available in HD?

Well...the EARLIEST it could ever happen is when the two new sats are launched and uplinked. Then they'll have to strike up a deal with MLB to include HD in MLBEI.

raoul5788
08-18-06, 06:02 PM
Not until the next 2 sats go up and they get the ability to send then out via CONUS beams. Right now they can only send them on the spotbeams along with the locals. Besides, out of market RSNs are worthless anyway since they are always blacked out for any major sport and many college events.

Not exactly. Here in CT we are in Yankee, Red Sox, and Mets territory, but because we are not in their local markets, we are not eligible for the hd feeds, even though the spot beams are large enough to cover CT. When D10 and D11 go up next year then the CONUS beams will carry them.

Toomus
08-19-06, 02:37 AM
I believe I read on another board that CSN Chicago is scheduled to go live on the 18th. I'm not sure about SNY, though.


Still waiting on CSN Chicago to flip the switch. It didn't happen for the Cards at Cubs on Aug. 18 as hoped.

bonscott87
08-19-06, 01:42 PM
Not exactly. Here in CT we are in Yankee, Red Sox, and Mets territory, but because we are not in their local markets, we are not eligible for the hd feeds, even though the spot beams are large enough to cover CT. When D10 and D11 go up next year then the CONUS beams will carry them.

Well, they aren't "out of market" for you in CT. They *are* your local RSNs. DirecTV just isn't carrying them on the Hartford spotbeam that also carries your HD locals.

evil
08-19-06, 04:38 PM
Still waiting on CSN Chicago to flip the switch. It didn't happen for the Cards at Cubs on Aug. 18 as hoped.

Call and find out what the deal is with this. It is August after all. :D

sjso395
08-19-06, 04:38 PM
something that really bothers me is when an Astros or Rangers game is played in HD on ESPN, but because it's on local channel in Houston or Dallas, I can't watch the game. One of the most ridiculous rules in baseball. Especially since I live 6 hours from Dallas and 3 hours from Houston.

I cant agree more more... I live in Paulina, LA by New Orleans.... over 6 hours from Houston, like 10 hours from Dallas.. Makes no sense.... Why cant we just fall into NO blackout area. I hate the Astros anyway... GO CARDS!!

bmwf1techie
08-24-06, 07:06 PM
I'm in LA and I heard a D* commercial on the radio today talking about FSN HD and to follow your favorite LA teams with D* and FSN HD. I take it this is an MPEG4 channel and not viewable on my HD Tivo?

raoul5788
08-24-06, 07:33 PM
I'm in LA and I heard a D* commercial on the radio today talking about FSN HD and to follow your favorite LA teams with D* and FSN HD. I take it this is an MPEG4 channel and not viewable on my HD Tivo?

Correct, although it is viewable on the H20 and the new dvr, the HR20-700, which is now available in the LA area.

evil
08-28-06, 01:29 PM
From what the people at Directv said is that ,Comcast is playing hard ball with them about letting them get the HD feed of Comcastsportsnet Chicago. So people in Chicago may get the channel any where from right now to the end of the year.

tomski
08-30-06, 02:09 PM
SNY went live on August 1st. I know - I live in the NY DMA. They are only HD for Mets home games though, SNY is NOT producing the away games in HD.

I didn't see any Mets games in HD during the last home stand. What channel is the HD feed of SNY on? I thought is was 97 for Special Events but didn't see any of the games there. Any one know?

Macfan424
08-30-06, 02:15 PM
From what the people at Directv said is that ,Comcast is playing hard ball with them about letting them get the HD feed of Comcastsportsnet Chicago. So people in Chicago may get the channel any where from right now to the end of the year.
No surprise. When D* picked-up their SD transmissions a couple of years ago, the negotiations went down to the day before the Bulls season opening game. They went on the air the next day.

raoul5788
08-30-06, 03:51 PM
I didn't see any Mets games in HD during the last home stand. What channel is the HD feed of SNY on? I thought is was 97 for Special Events but didn't see any of the games there. Any one know?

All of the mpeg4 rsn's that are NOT full time are on either channel 96 or 97.

TheRatPatrol
09-04-06, 06:50 PM
Any word on if we'll ever see Golf Channel in HD?

jdegrandpre
09-06-06, 12:20 PM
All of the mpeg4 rsn's that are NOT full time are on either channel 96 or 97.


I have the new HR20-700 and live in the Los Angeles area. I'm supposed to get the Angels and Dodgers in HD. I looked through all the 90's and it wasn't there. I did receive it in SD on 652.

Why am I not getting it?

Jeff

bonscott87
09-06-06, 01:56 PM
I have the new HR20-700 and live in the Los Angeles area. I'm supposed to get the Angels and Dodgers in HD. I looked through all the 90's and it wasn't there. I did receive it in SD on 652.

Why am I not getting it?

Jeff

That would only be if the game was actually in HD. And it would be found on 96 or 97 if it was. (I assume you have the 5 LNB dish as well).

jdegrandpre
09-06-06, 06:22 PM
Yes, I have the 5 LNB dish. I thought Fox Sports was broadcasting all the games in HD???

Jeff
:mad:

raoul5788
09-06-06, 09:05 PM
Yes, I have the 5 LNB dish. I thought Fox Sports was broadcasting all the games in HD???

Jeff
:mad:

Is FoxSportsWest one of the new full time hd rsn's? If so, it has the same number as the sd version. That is, you would have two channels numbered 652.

evil
09-06-06, 11:12 PM
I know that CSNC-HD is 24/7. Now only if directv could light up this channel.

Maccur
09-07-06, 01:03 AM
I haven't seen a hi-def game on Fox Sports Bay Area (Channel 96) in days. I just keep seeing "To Be Announced" in the program guide. I'm starting to wonder if something is wrong, since I was seeing hi-def baseball (either Giants or A's) up until last Friday.

keenan
09-07-06, 01:09 AM
I haven't seen a hi-def game on Fox Sports Bay Area (Channel 96) in days. I just keep seeing "To Be Announced" in the program guide. I'm starting to wonder if something is wrong, since I was seeing hi-def baseball (either Giants or A's) up until last Friday.
The link below shows the last HD Giants game was Aug 27 and Aug 28 for the A's.

http://fsnbayarea.com/HD_Giants.jsp
GIANTS FSN HD GAMES

http://fsnbayarea.com/HD_Athletics.jsp
ATHLETICS FSN HD GAMES

TheRatPatrol
09-07-06, 01:14 AM
The link below shows the last HD Giants game was Aug 27 and Aug 28 for the A's.

http://fsnbayarea.com/HD_Giants.jsp
GIANTS FSN HD GAMES

http://fsnbayarea.com/HD_Athletics.jsp
ATHLETICS FSN HD GAMES
Another link for HD sports. (http://www.hdsportsguide.com/)

Reason43
09-07-06, 10:14 AM
Tuesday's (9-5-06) A's game was supposed to be on 96 in HD but was not. I e-mailed FSNBA and they asked for my zip code to verify that I was eligible to receive the games. Have not heard back from them yet. They were going to contact D*. The next scheduled game is Giants/Padres on Friday (9-8-06). Schedule on D* says "to be announced". I have a bad feeling about this!

bonscott87
09-07-06, 10:27 AM
Yes, I have the 5 LNB dish. I thought Fox Sports was broadcasting all the games in HD???

Jeff
:mad:

No, Fox Sports does not do all games in HD and they never claimed to do so. You need to check their schedule to see what they do in HD. For many teams only home games are in HD. For others it's most. For still others it's only select games. All depends on the channel.

Slickone
09-07-06, 11:32 AM
I know that CSNC-HD is 24/7. Now only if directv could light up this channel.


Amaizing that in a middle of a pennant race, we here in Chicago cant get their local baseball teams in HD unless its on WGN or ESPN-HD, this is becoming more of a travesty. D* needs to get their heads out of their asses ASAP. More broken promises, they have failed to satisfy their HD community. That was the only reason I was going to stick it out a while with them, was to get the local RSN in HD. I will drop them in a heartbeat to move to E*, if they manage to air them first.

hokiefan
09-07-06, 12:13 PM
Amaizing that in a middle of a pennant race, we here in Chicago cant get their local baseball teams in HD unless its on WGN or ESPN-HD, this is becoming more of a travesty. D* needs to get their heads out of their asses ASAP. More broken promises, they have failed to satisfy their HD community. That was the only reason I was going to stick it out a while with them, was to get the local RSN in HD. I will drop them in a heartbeat to move to E*, if they manage to air them first.

Dish just uplinked CSN Chicago. No word on when it will be available but I'm betting pretty soon :).

keenan
09-07-06, 12:31 PM
Tuesday's (9-5-06) A's game was supposed to be on 96 in HD but was not. I e-mailed FSNBA and they asked for my zip code to verify that I was eligible to receive the games. Have not heard back from them yet. They were going to contact D*. The next scheduled game is Giants/Padres on Friday (9-8-06). Schedule on D* says "to be announced". I have a bad feeling about this!
I'll check in the local Comcast thread and see if it even showed up on INHD.

keenan
09-07-06, 02:33 PM
Tuesday's (9-5-06) A's game was supposed to be on 96 in HD but was not. I e-mailed FSNBA and they asked for my zip code to verify that I was eligible to receive the games. Have not heard back from them yet. They were going to contact D*. The next scheduled game is Giants/Padres on Friday (9-8-06). Schedule on D* says "to be announced". I have a bad feeling about this!
Okay, what they're telling me in the Comcast SF thread is that this game was the national MLBEI game for the day. Apparently when this happens INHD is actually the provider, not FSNBA-HD, even though that's where the feed came from. I'm guessing the game showed up on ch-95 CONUS for those subs with MLBEI although I didn't happen to look. Anyone know if it did?

evil
09-08-06, 04:19 PM
I just got off the phone with Comcastsportsnet chicago people and they told me that directv will have Comcastsportsnet - HD starting on Oct 1

Diretcv and them are try to get there every thing up and running by the end of the month.

Slickone
09-08-06, 07:30 PM
I just got off the phone with Comcastsportsnet chicago people and they told me that directv will have Comcastsportsnet - HD starting on Oct 1

Diretcv and them are try to get there every thing up and running by the end of the month.


That's promising news. Also consistent with when they launched the channel in SD in 2004 for Comcast, was Oct. 1 to get ready for the NBA season. Let's hope D* goes along with that schedule.

tommyc_295
09-09-06, 12:51 PM
Living in Arkansas, shouldn't I be able to get the RSN HD broadcast of Ole Miss vs. Missouri game on channel 95? It says It says "for ordering info call cust. serv. X721". Should I call them or am I just screwed? I have the sports package if that makes a difference.

risnuff
09-14-06, 07:38 PM
Any word on DirecTV picking up FSN Pittsburgh HD yet?

Toomus
09-22-06, 11:28 PM
I just got off the phone with Comcastsportsnet chicago people and they told me that directv will have Comcastsportsnet - HD starting on Oct 1

Diretcv and them are try to get there every thing up and running by the end of the month.


Comcast Sportsnet Chicago goes live in HD on D* on Sept. 27. Finally.


http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content_0p.asp?ID=37407

White Sox, Cubs, Bulls and Blackhawks Home Games to be Televised on DIRECTV HD Channel 640

Comcast SportsNet Chicago, the television home of the Chicago White Sox, Cubs, Bulls and Blackhawks, and DIRECTV have announced the satellite provider will begin carrying Comcast SportsNet Chicago as a 24-hour, seven days a week high-definition (HD) channel beginning September 27. The announcement was made by James J. Corno, Senior Vice President/General Manager for Comcast SportsNet Chicago and Dan Fawcett, executive vice president, Programming Acquisition, DIRECTV, Inc.

evil
09-23-06, 12:09 AM
Yes, finnaly, to bad the sox season ends on the road.

Bulls 07 season will look great in 1080i now

bhigh8
09-25-06, 11:18 AM
do you need a specific Dish in order to get this channel? 5lbn or 3lbn?

raoul5788
09-25-06, 11:34 AM
do you need a specific Dish in order to get this channel? 5lbn or 3lbn?

To get what channel? If you don't quote the posting you are referring to, how do we know what you mean?

bhigh8
09-25-06, 02:24 PM
To get what channel? If you don't quote the posting you are referring to, how do we know what you mean?

sorry, i meant the conversation right above mine regarding Comcast Sports Chicago on 640.

I am having an HD dish installed tomorrow and wanted to know if i need the 5LBN to get this channel?

bakerfall
09-25-06, 02:31 PM
Awesome!

Yes, you need an mpeg4 capable reciever and the 5LNB dish to recieve this channel.

bhigh8
09-25-06, 04:23 PM
Awesome!

Yes, you need an mpeg4 capable reciever and the 5LNB dish to recieve this channel.


cool, I have the new H20 so as long as the installer puts up the 5LNB dish i will be set. Thanks.

evil
09-27-06, 01:29 AM
So how do I delete channels on the H20 box, because every time I flip to 640 I get the sd channel, not the hd one

Baldmaga
09-27-06, 01:33 AM
So how do I delete channels on the H20 box, because every time I flip to 640 I get the sd channel, not the hd one

Are you in Chicago?

bakerfall
09-27-06, 09:34 AM
As of this morning, the HD feed is not up yet.

lazy r people 2
09-27-06, 12:13 PM
As of this morning, the HD feed is not up yet.
As of last night at 1:30 am, I was receiving it. It was labeled simply as "HD." A replay of the Cubs game was on in the SD "enhanced 16x9" mode.

evil
09-27-06, 12:44 PM
Yes, I am in chicago.

bakerfall
09-27-06, 02:19 PM
As of last night at 1:30 am, I was receiving it. It was labeled simply as "HD." A replay of the Cubs game was on in the SD "enhanced 16x9" mode.

Must have been testing it, because it was definitely SD this morning. Hopefully it's HD tonight. That and WBBM HD were my main reasons for getting an HR20

roytucker
09-27-06, 02:31 PM
Any word on when MSG is going to be added in Mpeg-4. The press release from July on RSN's in HD specified they would be adding them in the Fall.

dgordo
09-27-06, 06:08 PM
If you are in chicago you should be seeing CSN now. In your guide you will see 2 channels labeled 640. One is the SD feed, the other is the HD feed. They have been there all day(since 6am) for me.

N5XZS
09-27-06, 06:58 PM
Any ideas how far the MPEG-4 spotbeams will go down to Albuquerque, NM from the 2 Denver RSN stations will be?

I got the 5 LNB dish with H20 receiver.

Thanks!!

9-27-06

bhigh8
09-27-06, 09:08 PM
do you need to be in chicago to get the hd 640. i am in central Illinois and i dont see 2 640's.

raoul5788
09-27-06, 09:09 PM
do you need to be in chicago to get the hd 640. i am in central Illinois and i dont see 2 640's.

You have to be in the Chicago dma in order to get the hd rsn. That should change when the new sats go up next year and there is more bandwidth.

bakerfall
09-27-06, 10:20 PM
You have to be in the Chicago dma in order to get the hd rsn. That should change when the new sats go up next year and there is more bandwidth.

I sincerely doubt this will change. RSNs are basically local stations and probably will always be spot beamed. Even if you get the SD channels with the sports packages, they are blacked out during games.

bhigh8
09-27-06, 10:51 PM
I sincerely doubt this will change. RSNs are basically local stations and probably will always be spot beamed. Even if you get the SD channels with the sports packages, they are blacked out during games.


i get this channel without the sports pack. i guess cause i am close enough to it. but apparently still no CSNC in HD.

Baldmaga
09-28-06, 01:38 AM
I sincerely doubt this will change. RSNs are basically local stations and probably will always be spot beamed. Even if you get the SD channels with the sports packages, they are blacked out during games.

That is true, BUT, they are not blacked out if subscribed to the specific out of market packages. If all went HD, then we'd see all available games in HD.

bhigh8
09-28-06, 09:07 AM
That is true, BUT, they are not blacked out if subscribed to the specific out of market packages. If all went HD, then we'd see all available games in HD.

see thats what has me confused. I have the total choice plus with no sports pack and i still get comcast sportnet chicago because i live somewhat close. I dont understand why i dont get the HD version. Directv Cus. Service didnt know either.

Baldmaga
09-28-06, 11:19 AM
see thats what has me confused. I have the total choice plus with no sports pack and i still get comcast sportnet chicago because i live somewhat close. I dont understand why i dont get the HD version. Directv Cus. Service didnt know either.

First I have to ask, do you subscribe to the HD, and if so, do you get your local channels via LIL? If so, then just reset your receiver and see what happens.

I can get FSN Southwest without any additional subscriptions, but I don't get FSN SWHD, so I'm in the same boat as you. For me though, I don't get my locals in HD LIL.

bhigh8
09-28-06, 11:34 AM
i have HD but I dont get my locals in HD. so sounds like we have the same problem.

sonofjay
09-29-06, 12:05 AM
As its been posted in this thread and others, for whatever reason (D* claim it is because the spot beams do not cover all areas) D* do not offer RSN's outside the local DMA for the city the team belongs to, regardless if you have local HD's and regardless if you already receive the RSN in SD.

i.e Hartford's RSN is NESN. Hartford have local HD's. NESN is on D*. Boston DMA receive NESN HD. Hartford DMA cannot get NESN HD.

And here' the kicker.... If a customer in Hartford were to "move" to an address in the Boston DMA then they would be able to receive NESN-HD and Boston local HD's.

Slickone
09-29-06, 12:14 AM
CSN Chicago-HD is up on DTV!!!!!!! Yes finally after my beloved White Sox are put out of contention, D* finally picks up Comcast Sportsnet Chicago in HD. This is the best HD pickup, now we got our RSN for Bulls & Blackhawks games!!!!! Thank you D*, I can get through basketball season before I threaten to switch again.

DrA
10-01-06, 08:58 PM
FSN-HD Locals schedule
http://msn.foxsports.com/name/HD#FSMidwest

the big question is: will away games in this schedule be broadcasted locally in HD with local ads/announcers? (Opposing teams game's ads/announcers are against the blackout rules).

i.e. Los Angeles Kings have two HD games on FSNW in October. Also they have two away games in HD in their respective RSNs in October.
Local games will be on 96 mpeg 4 channel and I hope aways too will be in HD. (Away games are in SD FSNW anyway so there is no local team basketball game in that time). Logically there will not be any problem. :confused:
Locals for Kings:

FSN West
Monday, Oct. 16, 2006
7:00 PM Kings Live
7:30 PM Detroit at Los Angeles
10:00 PM Kings Live
10:30 PM Best Damn Sports Show Period
Monday, Oct. 30, 2006
7:00 PM Kings Live
7:30 PM New York Rangers at Los Angeles
10:00 PM Kings Live
10:30 PM Best Damn Sports Show Period

Away games for Kings:

FSN Arizona

Thursday, Oct. 19, 2006

7:00 PM Los Angeles at Phoenix

FSN Ohio

Friday, Oct. 27, 2006

7:00 PM Los Angeles at Columbus

sjso395
10-01-06, 10:13 PM
Anyone hearing anything about Fox SportsWest coming to HD soon?

Baldmaga
10-01-06, 10:21 PM
Anyone hearing anything about Fox SportsWest coming to HD soon?

Fox Sports West is in HD, unfortunatly you have to read the ~500 posts above to see that you can't get it in Louisiana.

sjso395
10-01-06, 11:20 PM
Fox Sports West is in HD, unfortunatly you have to read the ~500 posts above to see that you can't get it in Louisiana.

What is this BS that you speak of? Why cant I get it, if I get all the blackouts that FoxSportsWest has?? I thought I read somewhere that is was available, I was really trying to say why dont I have it here? I saw on the Fox website that its available. I know you are gonna find this hard to believe, but I talked to a CSR and tech support and both said there is no FSW yet. So you see why I am just so confused.

Baldmaga
10-02-06, 12:34 AM
Well, I re-read the official statement, it doesn't say anywhere that FSN West will be available in HD. So I apologize for that.

However, even if it were available, you wouldn't be able to see it because Louisiana isn't in the DMA's covered by FSN West, which is just southern California. I also live in Louisiana, have all the MPEG 4 equipment, and I don't get an RSN in HD, nor will you.

That's all I can answer, because that's all the public knowledge there is.

raoul5788
10-02-06, 08:38 PM
As its been posted in this thread and others, for whatever reason (D* claim it is because the spot beams do not cover all areas) D* do not offer RSN's outside the local DMA for the city the team belongs to, regardless if you have local HD's and regardless if you already receive the RSN in SD.

i.e Hartford's RSN is NESN. Hartford have local HD's. NESN is on D*. Boston DMA receive NESN HD. Hartford DMA cannot get NESN HD.

And here' the kicker.... If a customer in Hartford were to "move" to an address in the Boston DMA then they would be able to receive NESN-HD and Boston local HD's.

I was told by a senior tech that hd rsn's are shown only in the dma of the home team because they are concerned about the signals being too weak on the fringe of the spot beam. That makes sense, but in your example, where I happen to live, why don't they put the hd rsn's on the Harfford spot beams?

sonofjay
10-03-06, 12:39 AM
but in your example, where I happen to live, why don't they put the hd rsn's on the Harfford spot beams?

A very good question that, as far as I am aware, D* have not provided an answer for yet. But I believe the real question is why are the not just transmitting NESN nationally like they do with NESN SD.

raoul5788
10-03-06, 06:21 AM
A very good question that, as far as I am aware, D* have not provided an answer for yet. But I believe the real question is why are the not just transmitting NESN nationally like they do with NESN SD.

They don't have the bandwidth to put any more hd channels on CONUS. That's why they are using TNT HD on Sundays for ST.

sonofjay
10-03-06, 10:12 PM
They don't have the bandwidth to put any more hd channels on CONUS. That's why they are using TNT HD on Sundays for ST.

Sorry, i was referring to MPEG4 CONUS. If a sub requires a new dish and receiver to get HD locals anyway, and D* claim that the spot beams so not reach all RSN coverage areas (and they limit them to the hometown's DMA) then why not put the HD RSN's up on MPEG4 CONUS? This would enable them to not only offer HD RSN's for adjoining markets (i.e. Boston, Providence, Hartford), but it would also allow them to offer HD RSN's as part of the sports packages. NESN is already a CONUS SD channel today and since the HD subscriber base already small with many upgrading to MPEG4 equipment now (with all eventually doing so) then it makes sense offer NESN HD on CONUS MPEG4.

It's likely this is the way they will go once the 2 new birds launch next year but since MPEG4 bandwidth is not an issue then the question is why not do it now? It makes more sense the offering duplicate spotbeamed feeds across the regional area.

raoul5788
10-04-06, 01:02 AM
Sorry, i was referring to MPEG4 CONUS. If a sub requires a new dish and receiver to get HD locals anyway, and D* claim that the spot beams so not reach all RSN coverage areas (and they limit them to the hometown's DMA) then why not put the HD RSN's up on MPEG4 CONUS? This would enable them to not only offer HD RSN's for adjoining markets (i.e. Boston, Providence, Hartford), but it would also allow them to offer HD RSN's as part of the sports packages. NESN is already a CONUS SD channel today and since the HD subscriber base already small with many upgrading to MPEG4 equipment now (with all eventually doing so) then it makes sense offer NESN HD on CONUS MPEG4.

It's likely this is the way they will go once the 2 new birds launch next year but since MPEG4 bandwidth is not an issue then the question is why not do it now? It makes more sense the offering duplicate spotbeamed feeds across the regional area.

The Spaceway sats are the only mpeg4 sats in use for now. They are not able to do CONUS, only spotbeams.

JMartinko
10-08-06, 02:06 PM
FWIW, the Avalanche game against the Canucks tonight is listed in HD on channel 96 on the D* channel guide in the Denver area. It looks like D* has made an agreement with Altitude Sports (they have rights to all Avs and Nuggets games) to do the HD sports locally unless they are picking up a TSN HD feed from Vancouver which I seriously doubt.

lokar
10-08-06, 07:56 PM
Does anyone know the radius of D*'s spotbeams? I live in Idaho and according to the D* website, I should get all Altitude games but there is no channel 96 on my H20 tonight. If I don't get these games, D* is really misleading people as I followed the steps on their website to check RSN HD availability and that is what it told me and I have heard similar complaints from people in other areas.

fredfa
10-08-06, 08:03 PM
Have you checked with DirecTV about your situation?

alczervik
11-01-06, 09:01 PM
any word on when or if d* is adding fsn new england?