I.ve tried looking thru old posts, but the ebay links are old and defunct. Can you just tell me straight up what they are and where to get 'em?

Thanks

I.ve tried looking thru old posts, but the ebay links are old and defunct. Can you just tell me straight up what they are and where to get 'em?

Thanks


I used the common low cost mount that looks like this:
http://i14.tinypic.com/350thmh.jpg
You have to add a screw to the center of the mount point arm and use the little tapered center hole on the rear of the speakers. They are readily available on eBay for under $20 for a set of 5 and work fine.


This post from SLSAdvocate is a picture of the mount I used. I had originally gotten them at BestBuy but they were, at the time, available from eBay and likely still are. You do need to do a little mod to them to secure them tightly - trace through the posts to read about the technique.

I just did a quick look on eBay and here is one that looks like what I used:

http://cgi.ebay.com/5-NEW-Pack-BLACK-Wall-Ceiling-Speaker-Mounts-Brackets_W0QQitemZ320411431093QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultD omain_0?hash=item4a9a0270b5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

SLS 5.1 Q-Line Gold Speakers + Sherwood 1605 AV Receiver = $375. I just bought these and they sound AWESOME and the PRICE makes them even more incredible. My freinds that have Bose and Polk keep asking me where I found them and how much were they? I just smile and say -- "$1000 less than you paid for yours"

Where can you get this system?

Where can you get this system?

http://www.amazon.com/SLS-Q-Line-Surround-Theater-System/dp/B000JZSYZO :)

Where can you get this system?

ebay has new and used. I have a system for sale for local pick up in south Florida. I love these speakers, I just don't have the room.

http://www.av-express.com/AV-Catalog/HomeTheater/SLSQLineHomeTheater

I love mine. DVD player died though. Other than that, no problems. I love it.

Speakers- freaking phenom.

Only criticism:
Receiver-won't die and no HDMI. Will probably buy new AV receiver for use with speakers and relinquish SLS/SHerwood to bedroom [ohhhhh...too bad].

Actually a great AV receiver for the price IMO.

If you have to go to SLS for support, they are unbelievably great!

First option for me will always be SLS.

M

This set is really nice. I was looking for the non amp version, with 2 subs.
But the shipping is too expensive. The total is about 850$!!!
Do you know if there is a place where i can find it cheaper here in Europe? Or an US shop that has cheaper shipping...

Order Summary: sales@av-express.com

Item Description
SLS Q-Line Gold 650w 5.1 Surround Sound Home Theater Complete System including Two Subwoofers. $479.00

Receiver
Sherwood RD-8601 600w 6.1 Surround Sound Receiver x 1

Speaker
SLS 8 inch 200w Powered Subwoofer x 2

5 Piece Surround Sound Speaker Set for SLS Q-Line Gold Home Theater System x 1

6.0ft Opti2x Premium Metal Toslink Cable. 1 6.0ft OptiX2 Premium Metal Toslink
Cable. $4.39

Tax 0.00 Shipping 0.00

Total $483.39

I just wanted to post the latest on this HTIB system and pricing. Our primary use for HTIB is for TV/DVD sound not CD/Music. So the receiver HDMI and switching is not important for our application, only that the reciever have good A/B class amplification.

We decided to use the HDTV as the master selector and let the reciever support the video media.

Our HDTV is the LG 47HL90 with HDMI support for Blue Ray if we need it and I hope to use the optical O/P from the LG to the Receiver with no issues.

For music, we hope to install a CD system piped to each room from a completely separate install.

Our reasoning for this setup is the ease of use for the children and especially me. We want to turn on the TV and hear great sound and watch a DVD with excellent accompaning audio at a high value point. Hence two sub woofers.

We should have the HTIB setup by the end of the week. I'll keep posting if this is of interest.

Yes please.
Will you provide a cheaper shipping to europe in the future?

hey there all new to the form, i stumbled upon this form after researching for a good budget theater system. allot of my friends and family own a Bose audio system, and i cant deny that they do sound awesome. but me being me i don't like to purchase audio equipment based on the name, but more so on how they sound.

being of a car audio fanatic, I know that good kevlar component separates start around at $300 for a pair. which made these SLS speakers appealing. my car is for SPL, but i want a set up that has good SQ, for times when i REALLY listen to music. after reading countless info and reviews on these SLS speakers, ive finally decided to take the plunge and buy the 5.1 set. I've also recently purchased a Yamaha VX-465 receiver that these speakers will be paired with. these speakers seem very promising and will definitely be writing a review once they come in.

also does anyone know how many ohms is the sub? got a 8" jlw3v2 car sub laying around. that i might swap the sub box/amp with.

I've been using the SLS sub amp with a 4ohm MTX 12" in a box ported to 25 hz with great results over the included subwoofer.

also does anyone know how many ohms is the sub? got a 8" jlw3v2 car sub laying around. that i might swap the sub box/amp with.

I went to look in the owner's manual, and although they give the impedance for the satellites, they don't list it for the sub. Satellites are 6 ohms.

Ist impressions SLS Q-Line Gold:Straight from the box.
1. Very Easy Install, no issues, excellent sound, very clean. Very low distortion.
2. With CD's today, sound is again very clean, but seems to miss the mid range especially when the receiver set to Stereo mode.
3. The two subs are excellent for HT but on one music CD the base was just too dominant.
4. The system is not auto tuned or balanced.

I have it set up for HT and we are very happy with the performance, exceeded my expectations. There is a 30 day return option, however the sound is just so clean and precise we cannot justify another system.

hmmm, i guess ill just meter the sub when i get it. thanks for the info on the satellites.

Ist impressions SLS Q-Line Gold:Straight from the box.
1. Very Easy Install, no issues, excellent sound, very clean. Very low distortion.
2. With CD's today, sound is again very clean, but seems to miss the mid range especially when the receiver set to Stereo mode.
3. The two subs are excellent for HT but on one music CD the base was just too dominant.
4. The system is not auto tuned or balanced.

I have it set up for HT and we are very happy with the performance, exceeded my expectations. There is a 30 day return option, however the sound is just so clean and precise we cannot justify another system.

If the subs are too dominant, just lower their volume.
So you bought the version with 2 subs? Did you put them far away? Can you test with 1 and 2 subs, and see if the second sub removes most of room resonances? They say multiple subs have better in room response than one.

4. The system is not auto tuned or balanced.

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I have the 'original' version, sold through Best Buy several years back. The receiver with that system came with a microphone and a setup/balancing process that you performed on the AV receiver once everything was in place.

I'm glad to see there is some recent activity on this thread! I became aware of the SLS Q-Line Gold just a few weeks ago from an ad on another site. I had been in the market for a new HT setup and this really caught my eye. The price seemed pretty good so I started researching and found this thread. Based upon the excellent reviews, both here and elsewhere, that I read, I decided to pull the trigger. $375 shipped from AV-Express, although I later found them selling on Amazon also.

UPS arrived today with my 3 cartons (no dvd), and about an hour and a half later I got the first taste of this setup. I was replacing a Panasonic 1000W 5 disc DVD HT which rocks pretty well in it's own right. But I wanted something better, with more features. The only thing missing is HDMI, but I ordered a Sherwood HSB-6501 HDMI-Link A/V Switcher from Amazon (will be here in two more days) which will take the composite output of the Sherwood RD-8601 AVR that comes in this bundle and upconvert it to HDMI. It also has two additional HDMI inputs, and an optical in and optical out. The AVR works fine on composite on my 46" Sony Bravia, but I prefer HDMI. I had a Sony 5 disc DVD unit from years gone by that is now connected to the Sherwood by composite and coaxial digital.

These speakers are incredible! Now I know all I've been missing with the Panasonic. It's DTS capable (DVD only), but DTS through the Sherwood and these SLS speakers is amazing! The sound field is much more enveloping than I've previously experienced, and the highs are bright and crystal clear without being too bright or "tinny". I hear things I never heard before! The satellites create good bass sound on their own, and the midrange is good. Everthing sounds good on this system. I'm very impressed!

The sub creates good low bass that can shake the room, but it is just a bit outmatched by these speakers. My Panasonic had a killer sub that outruns the 8" SLS. A 10" would have been better. But maybe I'm spoiled by the Panasonic sub. I did a little playing around and found that switching the phase degree to 180 (instead of 0) made a bit of difference for my room acoustics. It's much better now - stronger. Not as strong as the Panasonic though. One difference might be that it's larger than the Panasonic and I can't fit it in the spot closer to the corner. It's a little further out of the corner so the vibrations can't bounce off the walls the same way. It does vibrate my chair bout 10 feet away though. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to live with NOT have my fillings shaken out!

All in all, a tremedous system for the price! I really appreciate all the good information in this thread, that I read through while waiting for my system to show up. The Sherwood AVR works great and I see no reason to upgrade it.

If you're thinking about it, quit thinking and just do it! There's a whole "brave new world" of sound wiating for you!

Steve

Hello all. New to the forum. Have been a lurker since I ordered my Q Line Gold from AV Express and it arrived and is currently set up.

So far, the only bad thing I can say about it is that it doesn't have HDMI but that can be worked around and that can by no means be considered a deal breaker.

So far I like the system very much and even though I have some severe hearing loss in both ears, I find the sound quality to be exceptional for the price. The only downside right now that I can find is the remote. It is a tough learning curve and way to complicated for the 'better half' so I have a feeling that a Harmony Remote is in the works so that I can get rid of the 4 remotes that I have to currently use as I have not programed the Q Line remote yet.

However, I seem to have a problem. First, my system consist of a Panny TCP58S1 Plasma that has a HDMI, Component, SVideo, and TosLink connections. I also have a Panny DMP-BD80 BD player, and of course the Q Line for the SS. I do not have a HD cable service yet but that is in the works and my problem is not related to this. I also have an old VCR that I use for viewing tapes.

I have my SD cable going through my VCR then to my Panny Plasma and I do get some HD channels from the local stations. I am using the TosLink out on the back of the Panny to send sound to the Q Line Gold. This Toslink cable goes into the "Digital In Opt 2" on the Q Line. My BD player is hooked up via HDMI to the Panny and I use a TosLink cable which goes into the "Digital In Opt 1" on the Q Line for sound. All plastic caps have been removed and the cables are seated firmly in all components. The VCR legacy outputs (RCA YRW) are sent to the "Video S-Video Video 1 In" for the (Y)ellow, and the "Video 1 In" for the (R)ed and (W)hite. The Q Line "Component Video Monitor Out" Cr Cb Y go to back of the Panny in the Cr Cb Y in under "Component 1 In". I have used the Auto Speaker Stetup to set and test the Q Line and all sound channels are working.

The problem that I am experiencing is that I am getting no sound from the Rear SSL and Rear SSR speakers when viewing either my BD or the TV. The Q Line is set to the proper input for the video signal and is in the "Auto-In" mode with the "Digital" light lit. I have cycled through the many SS setups but still can not get any sound from my two rear SS Speakers, even though through the testing and setup, I can hear the noise that is sent to them to do the auto speaker setup.

I thought that using the TosLink Optical cables would allow me to get full SS but it just is not happening so some thing must be amiss with my hook-ups or the way I have the AV Receiver configured but I can't seem to find the problem that is preventing me from getting full SS.

Now here is the kicker. Last night, I put in a Star Wars DVD and when the THX banner came on, I got sound from all the speakers but as soon as the THX intro was done, the sound was gone in the rear SS speakers. However, when I put in my DVE HD Basics DVD to calibrate the color on the Panny, when it was doing the SS testing, there was no sound coming from the rear SS speakers even though the graphics/picture showed that these two speakers were highlighted for testing. This is very confusing for me.

BTW, my Panny has the sound set to SS and my BD sound is set to 'bitstream'. I tried the PCM output on the BD but it made no difference.

So now my questions:

1) Isn't the Q Line suppose to take the output sound of the BD and Panny sent over the TosLink and turn it into some type of SS for the TV and true SS from the BD player?

2) Is there some hidden secret mode that I am not seeing or can't find that will alleviate the problems that I am currently experiencing?

3) Could it be that the rear speaker placement and auto volume setup be so low that I am not hearing the sound even though I put my ear right to the speakers? On the speaker set-up the volumes (distance) for the speakers are in the order of L,C,R,SR,SL at the 14, 12, 13, 6 and 8 levels.

I'm thinking that it is #3.

Any advice is welcome to overcome the problem.

TIA

I have the 'original' version, sold through Best Buy several years back. The receiver with that system came with a microphone and a setup/balancing process that you performed on the AV receiver once everything was in place.

I found the mic and if I have the time,will set it up tomorrow and let you all know how this goes.

slessard
If the Toslink from the TV is in the In Opt2 of the Receiver then go to "Input Selector Audio". Keep pressing this input until CD o2 shows up. (I think you have this, but just confirming)

The Receiver will now run the sound from TV but not necessarily Souround Sound. Now scroll through the DSP Mode until "Theater" and all speakers should operate.

If the subs are too dominant, just lower their volume.
So you bought the version with 2 subs? Did you put them far away? Can you test with 1 and 2 subs, and see if the second sub removes most of room resonances? They say multiple subs have better in room response than one.

On advice from the seller I purchased two subs and ran only one for the first few days. We have thick carpet and with one sub the volume was up 70%-80%, now with two subs maybe 55% - 65%. It is difficult to tell because there is no reference mark on the sub to the marks on the dial (If that is even a good indicator) There is no doubt that this HT Sytem is very good, my Stereo Expert brother in law is coming over for a review next week. He wants to buy a HT.

I think you have to experiment with sub location due to flooring materials. When I am close to the subs 4 feet and in, the floor moves and the vibration is really noticable. From 9 feet not noticable. Viewing distance from my TV about 9 feet.

I think the low frequency sound is excellent, having two subs was the right call for my application and they are not overdriven.

slessard
"So far I like the system very much and even though I have some severe hearing loss in both ears, I find the sound quality to be exceptional for the price. The only downside right now that I can find is the remote. It is a tough learning curve and way to complicated for the 'better half' so I have a feeling that a Harmony Remote is in the works so that I can get rid of the 4 remotes that I have to currently use as I have not programed the Q Line remote yet."

This is the main reason I did not want a stereo and HT sytem in one. Too complicated for the user, the Receiver always needs attention for optimum sound and the universal remotes are expensive. We have the motorola remote from our cable company, I just programmed all device volume to drive the receiver, thats it. NO TV speakers, only SLS components. Only one digital optical input to the receiver, nothing else, very easy, simple setup. Great sound.

If the speakers are the best part, would it not be better to buy the 5.1 speakers for $280 and a decently priced HDMI AVR? I've been reading various threads about other HTIB and most have at least 1 reference to the SLS Q-Line Gold.

Thanks.

Thats exactly why I purchased the entire system, as the receiver cost worked out at only $130or so. This SLS/Sherwood receiver is a very good quality class A/B amp. HDMI is not necessary for audio and the concept of using the receiver as the master will cost you alot more. Nearly every new 1080p TV has multiple HDMI, S Video, Coax.....and the price is built into the sytem, so why pay twice. If you want high end stereo as well then I'm not convinced HT is the best system for the money. There is a real balance in price and acceptable sound effects when simplicity, quality of sound for HT vs multi - use system. Most ofthe threads on the AVS site are about this balance, and it is very good information.

The SLS speakers and receiver are very well matched and you can stilll play CD's via the DVD/Blue Ray. Another point you may want to consider is the recent Blue Ray and Streaming Media feature. This is great because you can watch excellent quality at any time via DVD/Blue Ray disc, NetFlix, Blockbuster..... and have a huge sound selection via Pandora on ONE box. One HDMI to your TV and thats it. No Receiver switch necessary.

HDMI in a receiver does not add better audio value when compared to optical but can offer easier connectivity if you use the receiver as the Master. Personally, when you have the opportunity to hear the SLS System for less than $500 you will be very pleasantly surprised, there is no doublt in my mind the price, and sound quality are exceptional value today. The two sub system is great, if you only need one just turn the volume down and you still have very good low frequency dispersion, not too directional.

If you want some new must have feature then you can still use the $130 receiver for some other application, thats cheaper than a family trip to the grocery store.

One other note on SLS for consideration, they have on their web site approx. $11,000 speaker system. Thats a huge price gap vs Q-Line and they know theater sound. So you are really chasing incremental improvements vs dramatic in between these groupings.

Go for this system, they have a 30 day money back policy, and in about 90 minutes from unpacking youll be very happy.

slessard
If the Toslink from the TV is in the In Opt2 of the Receiver then go to "Input Selector Audio". Keep pressing this input until CD o2 shows up. (I think you have this, but just confirming)

The Receiver will now run the sound from TV but not necessarily Souround Sound. Now scroll through the DSP Mode until "Theater" and all speakers should operate.

Thanks for the information.

It was set up properly for the Digital input from the TosLink. I had assumed that the Auto Mic Setup would have set the channel(s) volumes, which it did not, just the channel(s) distance for the optimal listening distance for the delays. What I had to do was go into the OSD and set the individual channel volume(s) which correctd the problem. So this issue is resolved.

Thanks for your help.

I'm debating on the 3200 okyno system or SLS Q-Line Gold 650W. It's a 75$ diff. Seeing that the 3200 has passive sub and the SLS has active seems attractive. I'm also not looking for something 'complex' either...

I'm debating on the 3200 okyno system or SLS Q-Line Gold 650W. It's a 75$ diff. Seeing that the 3200 has passive sub and the SLS has active seems attractive. I'm also not looking for something 'complex' either...

Check out this customer review:
"OK, first off, every previous reviewer did not research before buying the unit. "HDMI pass-through means" that the HDMI only produces video, not sound. Therefore, this system (if you are using HDMI) will transfer the video through an HDMI cable and the audio through a separate optical or coaxial cable."

You can be confident SLS offers tremendous value in the speakers, this is where the system really shines. Somewhere on this site, a member has an SLS speaker set up with an Onkyo receiver, check out their feedback.

If you have time there was an SLS review on You Tube where you see what you are buying:
"SLS Q-Line Gold Home Theater System Comparison"

Hope this helps

Check out this customer review:
"OK, first off, every previous reviewer did not research before buying the unit. "HDMI pass-through means" that the HDMI only produces video, not sound. Therefore, this system (if you are using HDMI) will transfer the video through an HDMI cable and the audio through a separate optical or coaxial cable."

You can be confident SLS offers tremendous value in the speakers, this is where the system really shines. Somewhere on this site, a member has an SLS speaker set up with an Onkyo receiver, check out their feedback.

If you have time there was an SLS review on You Tube where you see what you are buying:
"SLS Q-Line Gold Home Theater System Comparison"

Hope this helps
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Thanks, I'm just unsure due to the system being a bit dated (reviews reach 2006) not as many reviews I found as I would like and being at 375. I think I'll take the plunge at this set up, they look like nice speakers (I saw the youtube vid)

How long did it take you to rec the equipmnet from av-express...?

I got mine if four days from OH to FL via UPS.

Shipping two day. They ship from Ohio and we live in Michigan. FYI, it was because of this site and there was good history to these speakers I purchased the system. You will be very happy.

hey guys just got my setup going, heres what i have to say.

first, i would like to remind that i had just purchased the the 5.1 set and paired it with the yahmaha rx-v465 receiver, for $280 the speakers alone are worth the price. they are crisp, clear and accurate. the highs are a little too much for me, had to turn them down a bit, mids are clear, good for vocal dialect during movies. I also enjoy how the speakers play the mid-lows to help blend the bass with the sub.

my only complaint is the subwoofer,when i received it i noticed the rubber seal around the cone wasn't adhered properly, i patched that up, then installed it.
after that i noticed the sub seemed very underpowered, it lacked upbeat punchy bass when playing music, and bogged out on the lower frequencies. also there is allot of port noise from the box. i fiddled around putting poly-fil inside, it helped, but still allot of noise. overall i think the sub is very sub-par, right now im using an old sony one, until i can find a good replacement, also thinking of maybe putting a 8" re woofer inside.


overall the speakers alone are worth the $280, but the package could do with a better sub.

Please let us know if the highs get less harsh with burn in.

i let my speaker burn in for a few hrs at a low volume while i went out, the highs seem to be becoming less harsh, gonna let it burn in some-more .

right now im in the process of finding a good sub to pair these speakers with, im looking for a good musical sub, was looking at these

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Boston-Acoustics-Horizon-HPS-10SE-Powered-Subwoofer_W0QQitemZ400092445723QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSpeakers_S ubwoofers?hash=item5d275e3c1b#ht_3093wt_1088

or a

Velodyne Impact 10 10" Reference Powered Subwoofer

can someone give me any recommendations for a good sub that does music well?
looking to sped around 100$-300$

BTW i figured i mention that this whole setup takes play in a 100 square foot room. having a 12" sub is way too big.

Your SLS sub should be under warranty if it was defective? From your feedback it looks like the two sub SLS system is the way to go vs single unit, or perhaps as you suggest a different sub altogether.

regardless i just feel that the sub isn't up to par with me. and yes, i've tinkered around with displacement and the "phase" option. it just lacks.
really want a better sub all together.

IMO i would advise those who are piecing a good budget HT setup, like i am, just go for the speaker set. and purchase a separate sub.

For those that are interested I have since upgraded my speakers to some floorstanding speakers from NHT. I am debating between moving the SLS's for a living room surround sound system or just selling them on ebay or craigslist. If you're interested in just the speakers, PM me. (No longer have receiver, and don't figure the subwoofer is worth the cost of shipping and I can use the amp for bass shakers) :)

regardless i just feel that the sub isn't up to par with me. and yes, i've tinkered around with displacement and the "phase" option. it just lacks.
really want a better sub all together.

IMO i would advise those who are piecing a good budget HT setup, like i am, just go for the speaker set. and purchase a separate sub.

Let us know what you ended up with and how the sub performs. We are looking to install another HT System.

Hi everyone-

I'm in the process of putting together my first HT system and am very interested in the SLS gold. Despite the raving reviews in found on the 'SLS - Q-Line Gold 650W Home Theater System' thread, I'm still a little hesitant pulling the trigger. The reason is because the majority of the entries are dated as far back as 2006. As good as the reviews are, I would think that speaker technology has improved during the last 4 yrs and that there would be better options out there at this time. Also, earlier post often mentioned how many wished SLS would offer the speakers without the dvd player and/or receiver so that you have the option of adding your own components/woofer instead. Fast forward to today and sure enough, you can get the 4 speakers and 1 center for under $200 shipped.

My question is if the SLS Gold is still the steal it was back in 2006 of if there are better options at this time?

Other questions i have are whether or not the SLS perform well with music. Since I'm a beginner, I might not be getting the entire picture..... but if a set of speakers is good, its good, right? Reproduction is reproduction and accuracy is accuracy. Apparently, more knowledgeable listeners differentiate between HT system and a music system. I get that the smaller size of HT drivers will limit the amount of output but if I'm only looking to fill a 12X15 room as opposed to an auditorium, wouldn't the SLS perform admirably with cd music as well?

I was originally looking at the Energy Take Classic and the c-50 bookshelfs but the matching centers don't seem to be available any longer. This system too, seemed to excel in smaller rooms and have been rated very high. Any thoughts?

Hi everyone-

I'm in the process of putting together my first HT system and am very interested in the SLS gold. Despite the raving reviews in found on the 'SLS - Q-Line Gold 650W Home Theater System' thread, I'm still a little hesitant pulling the trigger. The reason is because the majority of the entries are dated as far back as 2006. As good as the reviews are, I would think that speaker technology has improved during the last 4 yrs and that there would be better options out there at this time. Also, earlier post often mentioned how many wished SLS would offer the speakers without the dvd player and/or receiver so that you have the option of adding your own components/woofer instead. Fast forward to today and sure enough, you can get the 4 speakers and 1 center for under $200 shipped.

My question is if the SLS Gold is still the steal it was back in 2006 of if there are better options at this time?

Other questions i have are whether or not the SLS perform well with music. Since I'm a beginner, I might not be getting the entire picture..... but if a set of speakers is good, its good, right? Reproduction is reproduction and accuracy is accuracy. Apparently, more knowledgeable listeners differentiate between HT system and a music system. I get that the smaller size of HT drivers will limit the amount of output but if I'm only looking to fill a 12X15 room as opposed to an auditorium, wouldn't the SLS perform admirably with cd music as well?

I was originally looking at the Energy Take Classic and the c-50 bookshelfs but the matching centers don't seem to be available any longer. This system too, seemed to excel in smaller rooms and have been rated very high. Any thoughts?

I was in your same predicament when I bought my new HT system. As a starting point, newer does not alwas mean better. I have a component Pioneer stereo system that pretty much is still top of the line in acoustics and reproductions and it was purchased in the early '80's. You will also hear about people that are reverting back to vinyl because the sound reproduction just is not the same in the digital world.

That being said, I opted to buy the SLS Q-Line Gold and I am satisfied with the quality and sound reproduction that I get for my meager 16'X20' room. It is not the 'best' on the market but I think that for the price, it can not be beat. I did however decide to buy a Denon AVR-590, not that the rebranded Sherwood AVR was in any way a bad investment, but because I am not an avid Sherwood fan. The Sherwood has options that the Denon does not have and vice versa so the decision to go with the Denon was purely on the level of my wants and not the lack of quality.

Music is in the ear of the beholder. What sounds good for me may suck for you and vice versa. What works well in my environment might suck in your environment. The Q Line Gold has a 30 day return policy (if purchased through http://www.av-express.com/AV-Catalog/HomeTheater/SLSQLineHomeTheater ) so try it and if you do not like it, send it back if you opt for the full package which consist of the Sub, 5 speakers, and the receiver now. They dropped the DVD player awhile ago.

I also have my CD player (one of them) hooked up to the Denon and playing through the SLS speakers and I find that the speakers are adequate for this purpose but are a far cry from what my component Pioneer CS903 speakers are capable of, also circa '80's, but here I am pretty much comparing floor standing massive 4 way speakers with some awesom 16" woofers to much smaller speakers of the Q Line Gold. Some people find the Q-Line sub sufficient and other say it is not. I find it sufficient as it annoys the hell out of my wife with the ample sound repro that it does.

Only you can decide if the HT/Music reproduction is sufficient to satisfy your listening needs.

Just my .02 cents.

I don't like the sub either.

Can I gut it out and use the box to build my own 8" uber-thumper? I have no idea how to build a sub but I hear it's not so hard and there are plenty of how-to sites.

Anybody know where I can get an additional speaker for the center back, possibly another QG5000C and pricing?

TIA

Can I get some feedback from those of you who have replaced the included Sherwood receiver with a newer upgraded unit like an Onkyo 607, denon 590/790, etc.

Is there a significant improvement in sound? I'm happy with the sound I get from the all the original components of the system, but is it worth it to upgrade?

Thanks

I bought an onkyo 606 to replace the original sherwood receiver that came with the q-line gold package. I really liked it. It had way more inputs and better sound and performance due to having more power on tap and better quality components. I would definitely recommend an onkyo 607 if that is one of your options.

Thanks for the response Holmes! Info appreciated.

Is there no one else not catatonic here? Hello....Hello....anybody home?

Peace Out

Sound for me is different then sound for you and that is the great dilemma the each of us has to face. There is also the problematic aspects of the sound conditioning of your room.

I have the Denon AV590AVR. It has some of the bells and wistles that the rebranded Sherwood does not have, specifically the HDMI I/O, Audessey, and volume leveling. This is by no means a complete list though. Love the HDMI but not really needed unless you do not have the capability of using component and optical I/O which both my Plasma and BR player have. Audessey is great and there is a wealth of information available in the Audessey thread that you need to look at. Volume leveling is mediocre at best for ME because of my hearing loss. Even though I use the leveling and 'Midnight' settings, my wife still thinks the sound is too loud - but what can you expect from commercials that are designed to overpower anybody's sense of hearing while watching TV. The leveling is not supposed to be used while watching BR and neither is the Audessey as you want the true studio sound mix while viewing BR because most newer BR disc have DTS HD MA (Digital True Sound - High Deffinition - Master Audio) sound. The use of Audessey will help with the rooms acoustical specifics though.

I pretty much spent an addtional $300 for a new AVR that gave me a mediocre return at best. The sound from the Sherwood is the same as the sound from the Denon AFAICT, but then I have substantial hearing loss in both ears, have a small HT room (living room) with hardwood floors in an open plan design with the kitchen, and entrance.

So as you can see, it is most difficult to quantify your request with an adequate response as you have provided very little information as to the surroundings you are talking about.

I do however like the Denon because of ease of cable connections to my Plasma and BR - even though I did not need it.

If you like the sound you have, why upgrade?

I have had the SLS Q-Line Gold system for several months and was very happy with it until the sub woofer blew out. I like my music very loud and evidently the sub cannot handle the power of the Sherwood that it comes with. I contacted SLS about this and asked for warranty service and they offered a new one for $90. I responded with another request for warranty repair or replacement but have not heard back yet. It seems that they are saying that it is my fault for playing the system so loud. Is this my fault?

They probably know that the subwoofer is the weakness of the system. The good/bad thing about purchasing such an open and upgradeable HTIB is that you can tune it better to your equipment, but also that theres not the safety stops in place that would protect the speakers or other equipment from being hurt.

In reality you're probably better off with just putting the money towards another subwoofer than paying $90. If you want, I actually took the amp out of the sub so I would be willing to part with the woofer for much less than $90. That would be the speaker alone, no amp or box.

How much would you want for the woofer?

I've had the q-line gold now for a couple months and love it; but i've begun looking into upgrades. does the SLS receiver have enough power to drive larger speakers, say for example something along the lines of the polk tsi400's? the SLS says it delivers ~100wpc, is that enough without running into trouble at higher volumes?

thanks, Eric

My order of upgrade was the receiver, subwoofer, and then finally the speakers. I did it this way because I wanted a receiver with HDMI inputs and audio processing. The SLS should have enough power to drive larger speakers, but I haven't actually tried it myself.

yeah, i agree that a sub is in order before any speakers. i am content with the current feature set of the receiver, so if it doesn't need upgraded i'd rather not. i will probably be updating the sub relatively soon, but i'm more just looking to the future with the speakers; the q-lines are currently more than doing the job :). i suppose the real question is if i can actually get more volume (with quality obviously) out of larger speakers with the same receiver.

A follow-up from my previous post. AV Express sent me a new woofer under warranty for the one that busted. It is a great sounding system at a great price with great service to back it up. You can't go wrong!

Anyone attempt to paint their SLS speakers a lighter color for wall mounting? Is it possible to change the speaker grilles to a lighter color?

Any ideas or experiences will be helpful guys.

Thanks in advance,

Pete

Anyone attempt to paint their SLS speakers a lighter color for wall mounting? Is it possible to change the speaker grilles to a lighter color?

Any ideas or experiences will be helpful guys.

Thanks in advance,

Pete


i have a set of silver SLS speakers that i would be willing to trade for a set of black. the grill clth is also a silver color.

i was actually thinking of shelling out more money to buy the black set as they will go better with our dark walls. then i'll have 2 sets! anyway, i considered painting and re-covering the grill cloth on them, but i dont think it's worth it.

The speakers may be good, I will never find out. I do know this: SLS is bankrupt and no longer making these. Av-Express bought the leftover supply which is why they're the only ones selling them now. Best Buy had these down to $299 before dropping the line. Av-Express does have a "30 day risk-free in home trial" and here's what they had to say about it:
Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'AV-Express'

AV-Express: Welcome to our live chat service.

AV-Express: How may I help you today?

you: Yes, can you clarify this: Returns on qualifying products will only be accepted if you find a better quality product for the same amount that you purchased from AV-Express.

you: Is this part of the 30 day money back?

AV-Express: Yes this is apart of the 30 day money back.

you: So the 30 day money back does not apply if we are not satisfied with the product, rather if we are not satisfied and cannot find a better alternative for the same money?

AV-Express: If there are any problems with the system we do have a warranty that covers defects and that is directly though AV Express, not through the Manufacturer.

AV-Express: Is there anything else I can help you with?

you: Ok, and that's fine since the manufacturer is not making these anymore. But if I am just not satisfied with the way they sound and would rather spend more money on a different brand, can I return them within 30 days with your 30 day risk-free trial without having to justify anything?

AV-Express: We do have a 30 day return policy per our policy and conditions.

AV-Express: Our policy is that if you are just not interested in the system anymore, then there is a 10% restocking fee and freight not included.

AV-Express: Does that answer your question?

you: Thanks for clarifying. It does answer my question but it also makes the "30 day risk-free in home trial" a misleading statement.


After 5 minutes, they still would not chime in and dispute my statement. SO their money back guarantee is not risk-free and not a guarantee. I'm gonna let them keep their speakers.
Hopefully admins will let me post this in multiple forums as I really don't like dishonest companies and avsforum has been a good supplier of buyers for av-express.

^^^^^^^^^^^^buy the speakers. they are skull candy. i have the q line silver, and since i like them so much i just ordered the q-line gold (black speakers) just because they match my home theater better than the silver. actually i also got 7 speakers, so i guess you can call it an "upgrade" from my 5.1.

you will be happy with your purchase. if you arent, you will probably not be satisfied with ANY system unless you get into the thousands of dollars.

oh, and i highly doubt that SLS is bankrupt. they may not be making the Q line anymore, but i'm sure they are still making speakers for other venues.

^^^^^^^^^^^^buy the speakers. they are skull candy. i have the q line silver, and since i like them so much i just ordered the q-line gold (black speakers) just because they match my home theater better than the silver. actually i also got 7 speakers, so i guess you can call it an "upgrade" from my 5.1.

you will be happy with your purchase. if you arent, you will probably not be satisfied with ANY system unless you get into the thousands of dollars.

oh, and i highly doubt that SLS is bankrupt. they may not be making the Q line anymore, but i'm sure they are still making speakers for other venues.
IS this the same co? http://www.nczon.com/
They seem to have SLS Audio on their front page. Judging from the page, they are pretty established in the pro line. Maybe they abandon consumer line?

have watched the you tube vid & read the specs & compared to newer systems, like the onkyo hts3300 etc, my ? is if i buy this system for the speakers & use the receiver as is with a toslink cable connected to the sherwood & then my tv with all my components, will the tv be able to pass the hdmi audio from the tv to the sherwood in 5.1 surround sound? i have an lg blu ray player, toshiba dvr and a roku hooked into an hdmi switcher then to tv and dish hd. my tv is a panasonic tc-p50c2 but i don't think the tv puts out audio in 5.1 so what would be the point of using a toslink for audio with the q line unless you use component cables cuz it has no hdmi ports? right now i have a samsung 5.1 dvd system plugged directly to the dish hd for surround sound & get sound from all 5 speakers, but if i hook the samsung directly to the tv's optical in, only get "stereo" sound, so i'm thinking if i connect all my devices to the sherwood then use a toslink to the tv, i won't get 5.1 but 2 channel stereo. is that right?:eek:

Dear Umpqua:

Your 4 postings about Av-Express and SLS Q line gold have been brought to our attention by many satisfied customers. We thought it was time we made our response heard. Hopefully the AVS moderator will allow this post to remain on the forum much like they allowed you to post your above post in four different threads. Our SLS web page is based on a previous ad on our website that stated "risk free". When the site was constructed, our webmaster made an honest error in stating as much. This page has long been updated to state 30 day money back trial. The details of this offer are and have always been posted in normal size text on our warranty tab. We are not trying to mislead or connive customers as you state. This is also evident in the live chat posting that you have only partially posted for your purposes ? The moderator states if you just want to return it then there is a 10% restocking fee. Our point is clear and simple : Find a better sounding or quality system at this price and we will take back the SLS system completely free of charge. To date (1-30-2011) after selling thousands of SLS systems we have not had one customer claim they could find a better sounding or quality of system at this price . CNET basically concurs with our claim that you will not find a better system as they stated “The SLS system is the best sounding system under $1500”, back when it was priced at $899 at Best Buy. (Never $299.00 except for the used floor model, speakers only .) Our high reviews can be easily be found on the internet and on this forum. Our 5 star rating on Amazon tell’s another story besides the one you portray. Quite simply we strive hard to offer a high quality product at a fair price and stand behind that with excellent customer service. We are confused as to why you would go to such lengths to offer your negative feedback about our company despite never purchasing from our company ? Continued happy listening to our thousands of satisfied customers who have purchased the SLS system. We are here to serve you our valued customers.

Anyone think the definitive technology pro cinema 800 speakers are better/an upgrade from these?

Thanks

Does anyone know..with the SLS audio company recently restructured and no longer producing home products, I assume systems like the SLS gold will only be available "while supplies last". I assume AV express has a limited quanity?

Current sls owners are you happy with your purchase? Any owner reviews?

Dishhd,
I just got mine today, I have nothing to compare it to besides my tv speakers, but....

I threw in the first season of Glee (still trying to woo my wife over about the purchase), and kept switching back and forth between the tvs and the sls's speakers. Sound quality, clarity, and depth were fantastic. I'm happy with the purchase, so for my house I suppose that's all that matters!

Dishhd,
I just got mine today, I have nothing to compare it to besides my tv speakers, but....

I threw in the first season of Glee (still trying to woo my wife over about the purchase), and kept switching back and forth between the tvs and the sls's speakers. Sound quality, clarity, and depth were fantastic. I'm happy with the purchase, so for my house I suppose that's all that matters!

Yessir, that's ALL that matters.

I bought into the 5 speaker SLS offer by AV-Express and received the box of them an hour ago.

I'd bought them (because it's a great deal)to have a bunch of speakers to put here and there in my living room HT, and for a new bedroom projector HT setup that's in progress (just painting the room today).

Just to try their sound I took a pair to replace fronts of the little Cambridge Soundworks 2.1 computer system I use. The system is 8 ohms so they were louder but I was surprised at how much bass they can pump. I turned the little sub to zero and still had more full range sounds than I need from 2 feet away. Nice clear and clean playing a Keb'Mo' disc.

I think these little SLS speakers are gonna' be a lot more than I expected in my bedroom, Loola Loo!

Yeah, the highs and miss are a Tad impressive. I wanted to hear a couple parts from LotR 3 yesterday, at the part where the flying mount comes out of the city of the dead and screams.....all the characters drop and cover their ears in pain. Well I always just took that by faith, I dont even think that was portrayed well in the ttheaters, not this time...I almost dropped myself the scream was so intense.

Could have shattered glass with that scream! :P

I've been set on the onkyo s3300 until I read the reviews here. I'd be willing to spread for the Gold but lack if hdmi is killing it for me. I have a 2007 Sammy plasma (does gave optical, don't know if it passes through 5.1) that will be hooked to an Apple tv2. I
Know the atv2 has a digital headphone hack that sends 5.1 but Im nit sure how I'd get that to work with thus system.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Anyone A/B this and the s3300?

I purchased the SLS Q line gold system last week...a quick review and my perspective is that I had my TV hook to 2 channel pyle pro stereo and this system replaced that.

The SLS speaker are very clear and I am hearing alot more detail than with my old system. For a small speaker, they pack some punch and can be nicely tucked away on a shelf, the wall, etc.

The Subwoofer is more than adequate for my 14 x 16 foot room and has really good, distortion free sound at low to mid volume. I am sure there are better subs out there, but this one seems very good to me.

The lack of HDMi sounds like a problem for some folks...but I don't intend to keep this AV rec forever and eventually, will get a networkable one.

On the other side of the ledger...if you are music first, movies second, there may be better systems. Granted, I haven't worked out all the settings and /or played with the rec to optimize sound...but for speakers that sound so good in surround sound mode, I wasn't overwhelmed by the performance while playing some tunes from my ipod. Still, very good sound.

I am sure there are better systems out there, but for ~350 bucks, I doubt you can find one this good...

What's funny is my wife was not fully on board with this purchase, even a little bit put off with me right after I ordered them. By day number 2 she was already getting a hold of her sister and telling her how amazing their favorite show, glee, was now with the new system I had bought.

There is no longer an issue that I bought this!

Hoff the good news is your wife sounds fully on board...the bad news is now you have to watch a lot of Glee!

Haha, you think our household wasn't seeing its fair share of Glee prior? I had to keep the peace then too!

Just got mine last week to replace the a 2.1 Logitech computer speakers, wow...it is like upgrading from a sh*tbox 1995 Miata to Porsche 911. Prior to this, I bought a Pany Soundbar from Walmart and I was not way compare to my Logitech PC speakers so the soundbar was returned. I have a 54" Pany TC-P54G25 Plasma and everything are connected from my PC, I don't have a DVD or Bluray player. I was hesitated to get this system due to lack of HDMI input/output, however, I connect HDMI straight to PC to TV, toslink from PC to receiver, toslink from TV to receiver for TV shows/programs. I can't compare to others systems and I don't know whether it sounds $1K or $2K but it sounds good and the wife is really happy. Just make sure to get a couple Toslink (optical) and additional speaker wires for rear speakers, supplied speaker wires are three 10 ft for Front/Center/Lefts and 30ft for rear surround speakers are not enough for me (25x15 room).

Oustanding speakers

I like the reviews on SLS Q-Line Gold speaker set. Speakers are rated 4ohm. Is denon avr-1911 compatible with that. I read somewhere avr-1911 recommended with 6 to 16 ohm speakers. Is it bad for the sound quality?

This will be my first speaker set and I am confused with the possibilities.

I will use this set for mostly movies, but also like to listen good quality music time to time.

I have been through two receivers--first went went wonky, doing random things--dimming the display, changing inputs, volume, etc. I made sure it wasn't the remote by pulling the batteries. So SLS replaced it under warranty. Then 2nd receiver just kinda died. Now you hear it, now you hear a bit of mild static, now you hear... silence. Complete power down; power on; a bit of audio, some static, then silence.

The sub is in the attic (not bad, but kinda boomy, lacking on the very low end). The receiver is going out for the trash today. I have a spare remote--anyone interested?

The old Yamaha integrated stereo amp works really well with the SLS speakers on the passive Infinity bandpass box sub.

It may be beside the point...AV express is listed those speakers as out of stock and I hear they think they can get a few more systems, but the supply is almost out.
I have had the reciever for 6 months and it has been very good...except the lack of hdmi! With that AV-rec being so old (released in 2006?), I would think they would be best off selling the speaker sets alone....

I took a closer look at the SLS sub, it looks to be net about .8 cu ft, volume with a 3" port that's 9" long. That would be a 46 Hz tuning.

I found a driver that models pretty well in it, a Dayton DCS205-4 8", you'd have to extend the port to 14" long using a 90 degree bend. That gets you an F3 of 35.8 Hz, which is probably 10 -11 Hz lower than the stock setup. Produces 104dB at 50 watts.

Might be an interesting project someday, the driver is pretty cheap.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k58/Glibs/SLSsub.jpg

Hi guys,

I'm completely new to this surround sound thing (as well as hooking up video / audio cables). I've typically just been using the speakers on my TV so the full extent of my experience is connecting the PS3 to the TV.

After ordering the SLS Q-Line Gold, all the wires and possible connections are a little overwhelming. Can someone advise on how exactly I can go about hooking up my plasma TV (Samsung PN59D8000) with a HD cable box, my PS3 and the SLS Q-Line Gold? Do I need to purchase any cables currently not in the box?

Appreciate any help at all.

Thanks,
Sam

You will need a optical digital cable. The Sherwood reciever doesn't have Hdmi ports...but does have toslink optical and coaxial connectors for digital transmission.

Thanks. I will order a digital audio optical TOSLink cable from Amazon then.

However, it sounds like I will need two optical digital inputs on the receiver, one for the TV and one for the PS3, but the SLS Q-Line Gold only comes with one. Any suggestions as to workarounds?

Thanks.

I think you may have to run any "additional" opticals through your TV?! My SLS system doesn't have a PS3 to deal with, so....

Thanks. I will order a digital audio optical TOSLink cable from Amazon then.

However, it sounds like I will need two optical digital inputs on the receiver, one for the TV and one for the PS3, but the SLS Q-Line Gold only comes with one. Any suggestions as to workarounds?

Thanks.

Looks like the Sherwood does have 2 TOSLink optical ins and 2 coax digital ins so you should be fine.
http://www.sherwoodusa.com/pdf/RD-8601.PDF

Worst case scenario, get a TOSLink to coax adaptor from monoprice for $12 to convert your TOSLink optical output to a coax digital input for the receiver.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&cs_id=1042302&p_id=2948&seq=1&format=2

Thanks. I will order a digital audio optical TOSLink cable from Amazon then.

However, it sounds like I will need two optical digital inputs on the receiver, one for the TV and one for the PS3, but the SLS Q-Line Gold only comes with one. Any suggestions as to workarounds?

Thanks.

Yes the Sherwood has two optical in and two Coax in.

Parts Express Model 830667, Part# 264-1102. About $60.00 It is the same as the one that came with my AV Express unit. The coil came lose and started making a rattling noise. AV Express send me another woofer that made a worse sound than the one I replaced, I think a return because the paper was torn half way around the cone. I don't think AV Express was aware of the tear as you had to compress the speaker to reveal the tear... I repaired it with RTV, sounds great now. I wanted to find a back up as these will be hard to find and replace in the furture. Searching found Parts Express.

Is the center speaker identical to the other speakers in the Q-Line Gold series?

The Q-Line center is the same as the others in the set except the SLS logo is placed horizonal as would be for a center speaker. They have 2 x 4" Kevlar Cone Woofer & 1 x 1 1/4 Ribbon Tweeter. 4 Ohm.

From my owner's manual, it also notes that the center channel is magnetically shielded. Also, unless it's changed, my owner's manual says that all the satellites are 6 ohms.

The receiver is 6 & 4 Ohm. The speakers are 4 Ohm according to AV Express wep site specification sheet.

Looking in the manual it does say the speakers are 6 Ohm. InVinoVeritas you are right. So I decided to look at one of the speaker... The lable on the back of the speaker says they are in fact 4 Ohm. Go figure!

This 4 ohm/ 6 ohm discrepancy was noticed a while back in this thread. I think everyone decided that the speakers are actually 4 ohm.