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santie321
06-22-06, 01:47 AM
just saw this system listed at Best Buy. apparently they are the sole distributors. reading over the specs i'm pretty impressed and so is the price right. does ANYONE have personal experience w/ this system or can point me to a review somewhere? any opinions?

thanks in advance..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=pcmcat93000050028

Bob Caruthers
06-22-06, 11:37 AM
santie,

I have the Q-Line Silver system and like it a lot.

Here is a review (hope the link works):

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=1409&page_number=1

The Gold system has a bigger amp and a dvd player and is black.

hth, Bob

Dunn55
06-27-06, 03:26 PM
Since I allready own SLS speakers I am very familar with the incredible sound you get from their ribbon driver technolgy. I gave the Q Line Gold system to a friend of mine and he replaced the 5 surround sound speakers he already had which he paid $500 each for (5 x $500 = $2,500). The improvement in the sound of his system was unbelievable with the SLS speakers. This system is easliy worth twice the price it is selling for. I would highly recommend it. Besides, would Quincy Jones put his name on a product unless it was outstanding!!

Kal Rubinson
06-27-06, 06:22 PM
Besides, would Quincy Jones put his name on a product unless it was outstanding!!Do you really believe that? Do you think he listens to one of these packaged $600 HT systems at his home?

Kal

SLSAdvocate
06-28-06, 09:06 AM
I haven't been around the forum in a long time so I had to re-register. My screen name says it all about what I think of this product. As a road warrior consultant I had to equip a small house I was renting in another town. I had occasion to see some info on this product prior to its release. My need coincided with the Best Buy intro date and I bought one at full retail the day after they put it out.

As a former dealer of semi-higher end HT gear, I never thought I'd see the day where I'd buy an HTIB. But my circumstances combined with this speaker technology intrigued me because it was a unique application of the ribbon driver technology to a lower cost speaker. Everything I had read suggested that there were some original and effective characteristics to their sound. I still like to listen to 2 channel music a lot and since I needed something compact and didn't want to spend too much, I took the leap of faith.

While the receiver and DVD player aren't anything really special, they are decently featured and perform pretty well. I think they are Phillips OEMs. The receiver comes with the omni-directional mic and I thought that was a nice touch not found in too many systems at this price. It worked quite well too as when I balanced the system using it, there was no doubt that the sweet spot was right where I placed the mic for the calibration.

The sub is good sized, weighs like 33 lbs. and stands 20" tall. The spec is 100 watts and it has a downfiring 8" cone on the bottom which is exposed. You have to be careful not to puncture it when you move the sub around. Has all the expected adjustments for phase etc. and sounds pretty good. Not at all "boomy" like a lot of low cost subs.

This is really about the 5 speakers though. When I was a dealer I always was looking for products that stretched the price/performance/value limits. Something that performed beyond expectation for its price range. I have to say that these things define that ideal. It is flat unbelieveable that you can get this kind of advance in an HT speaker package that "comes with" all the other pieces necessary to have a set up. I have spent well in excess of $10k on an HT before and I'm really just amazed with these things at this price.

Everybody has their tastes and preferences in sound. Mine are accuracy and separation. I like speakers that give me really clear transitions and accurate separation of each instrument, vocal and sound effect. The biggest weakness IMO in most lower end speakers is their mid to highrange separation is always off or waaayy off. They put too much of the mid into the tweeters or too much high range into the mid/woofer. IMO this is where you get the muddy vocals and accuracy compromises. They send the wrong ranges to the wrong response drivers (or just crappy drivers) and everything bleeds into other sounds.

Well, these little guys have defeated that problem. The improvement in clarity and separation in the mid and upper ranges is easily heard. Detail comes out of both music and soundtracks that just isn't there with other speakers any where near this price range. And accuracy? You hear clear and recognizable effects and instruments that aren't "right there" when played on other systems. It's really pretty amazing. Really jumps right out at you.

My out of town gig ended recently and I'm looking forward to doing some more comparisons with these guys on more familiar movies and music. But wow, color me impressed with the ability of these speakers; as part of a moderately priced HTIB??? I never would have believed it.

If you're in the market anywhere near this price, buy this HTIB just for the speakers alone. Well worth the $$ IMO. I'm looking forward to finding a dealer around here somewhere who displays some of their higher end HT speakers. I can tell you exactly what's going into my main room next upgrade...

sregis
06-28-06, 12:45 PM
i'm very excited about the sls. the logical question concerns the reciever & dvd player...getting these speakers seems a no-brainer, but what about the receiver & dvd player?

SLSAdvocate
06-28-06, 01:34 PM
i'm very excited about the sls. the logical question concerns the reciever & dvd player...getting these speakers seems a no-brainer, but what about the receiver & dvd player?The receiver is pretty full featured. I would compare it to anything Pioneer, Denon, Marantz in the $400-$600 range. Has everything you'd expect except for HDMI. It supports all the latest audio codecs: all the DTS's (Digital Surround, Extended Surround, Discrete 6.1, Matrix 6.1, Neo 6 surround, cinema and music, and DTS 96/24). All the Dolby Digitals: EX, Pro Logic II, IIx movie and music, virtual speaker, reference and wide and good old Pro Logic. It also does Dolby Headphone simulated surround. Has a Theater, Hall and Stadium setting with the usual result.

It supports a surround back/center for 6.1. It has upgraded binding posts which will support banana plugs and spades as well as bare wire. Has 6.1 channel analog audio in RCA jacks. 2 optical, 2 co-ax digital ins (all assignable), 1 optical out. Usual record out options, support for 3 s-video or composite connections. 2 component video in, 1 out. On screen display for most functions and plenty of setup options. Remote has macro capability and is universal and is programmable.

The DVD player is pretty standard. Single disc, progressive output, 1 optical, 1 co-ax, 1 component, 1 s-video, 1 composite video out, 1 pair analog audio out. Supports all the codecs. Plays DVD, CD, VCD, CD-R, CD-RW (with some caveats), supports MP3 and WMA. Shows JPEGs. Has normal pan and scan, letter box and wide for 16:9 TVs. Remote is simple or it can be controlled from the main receiver remote. I'd expect to pay $150-$200 for a player like this.

Even the speaker wire that comes with it is decent 16g compared to the 18 or 20 you usually get with cheaper HTIBs.

For components included with these speakers and compared to what I've seen in HTIBs from Sony and Panasonic, pretty good electronics...

sregis
06-28-06, 01:44 PM
i'm a noob- how does the lack of hdmi effect things?

SLSAdvocate
06-28-06, 02:13 PM
i'm a noob- how does the lack of hdmi effect things?HDMI/HDCP is the all digital combined audio video signal in a single cable which can reduce your interconnects from multiple wires to two, one from a DVD to the receiver and one from the receiver to your TV. There is some content that won't play maximum HD resolution except through the HDMI connection. If you want to upconvert SD DVD to HD signal you have to have this on the DVD player and on the HDTV. The cables are still very pricey and there is an error in some manufacturers implementation of the HDMI spec which has caused some problems. There is an update to the spec now and to get the best 1080p HD you need this connection. My TV has the input and one of my Sat boxes has the output. I just run the Sat box HDMI directly to the TV and change inputs when I want to use it. At some point HDMI to HDMI will be the preferred interconnect for all AV gear. Not a real big deal right now but 2-4 years from now it will probably be commonplace.

Edit - BTW HDMI/HDCP: High Definition Media Interface/High Definition Content Protection.

sregis
06-28-06, 02:18 PM
i guess then, all the more reason to go for the silver, and supplement w/ a dvd player/recorder w/ hdmi. wish sds offered more variation- like selling the speakers separately or offering the silver package in black. how hard could that be?

SLSAdvocate
06-28-06, 03:03 PM
i guess then, all the more reason to go for the silver, and supplement w/ a dvd player/recorder w/ hdmi. wish sds offered more variation- like selling the speakers separately or offering the silver package in black. how hard could that be?Double check, but I don't think the Silver is the same receiver and I don't think it comes with the setup mic.

If you can't get the Silver discounted from its regular price, the Gold at $100 more is worth it. I actually already had a DVD when I got the Gold.

I think SLS will offer more variation in the future. I think they are just trying to make inroads in the home market right now. They have been in the commercial speaker market (speakers in hall venues, churches and movie theaters) for many years. Only in the past few years have they ported the ribbon technology into home class systems. They also own a digital amplifier technology which is very interesting too. They are releasing noise cancelling headphones and earbuds later this year also based on this speaker technology. I have no doubt they will release a Q Line Platinum at some point too.

If you really want the speakers alone, go to their website or call them. You might be able to get the speakers only.

I think this stuff is great. Best advance since DTS audio and High Def video IMO.

sregis
06-28-06, 03:28 PM
doesn't appear that they're eager to sell their products in pieces, based on an exchange i just had w/ a sales guy. no s-video is a worry as well....pretty standard stuff!

SLSAdvocate
06-28-06, 03:31 PM
doesn't appear that they're eager to sell their products in pieces, based on an exchange i just had w/ a sales guy. no s-video is a worry as well....pretty standard stuff!No S-Video on what? The Gold has S-Video. Are you saying the Silver doesn't?

sregis
06-28-06, 03:54 PM
No S-Video on what? The Gold has S-Video. Are you saying the Silver doesn't?

had just read that the silver didn't. the gold appears pretty perfect, but i'd probably trade out for a dvd player-recorder w/ hdmi.

SLSAdvocate
06-28-06, 04:01 PM
had just read that the silver didn't. the gold appears pretty perfect, but i'd probably trade out for a dvd player-recorder w/ hdmi.Understandable on the HDMI. I don't have time to look it up, but I would be very surprised if the Silver had no S-Video. You might check again...

tlsunshinein1
06-28-06, 06:05 PM
he's right the silver does not have s-video. Because of that I seem to be having trouble setting mine up. I got it for Father's day and want to get it set up but I have all these components: TIVO, HDTV and disc DVD. I can get the DVD to sound right but the TIVO & HDTV dont seem to sound right. Can anyone explain how to run all the wires so I can tell if I got them right.

Bob Caruthers
06-28-06, 07:30 PM
tlsunshine1,

The Q-Silver Receiver is a rebranded Sherwood RD-6105 Receiver.

I have connected my Dish Receiver to the Q-Silver Receiver using the Optical Audio jack.

My Pioneer DVR-640H is connected to the Q-Silver Receiver using one to the two Coax Audio jacks.

These two are the only things connected to the Q-Silver Receiver other than the speakers which sound great.

hth, Bob

sregis
06-28-06, 07:52 PM
checked this unit out at bestbuy this eve, and thought the sound much better than a polk 5.1 i recently heard. warning tho- it's 100lbs, and comes in a very big box. doubtful it'd fit in my sedan, and bestbuy won't mail it. incidentally, spoke w/ a nice guy at sls today, asking if he foresaw them selling the speakers separately, and he thought that was a good possibility in the near future...also upgrades like hdmi w/ the dvd. seems they're also working out deals w/ dealers other than bb and walmart.

FatFrog
07-23-06, 08:54 PM
I just bought a Epson projector and I want to get an SLS gold speaker system, but I am worried about needing to put speakers near the screen and run cables 14 feet back to the reciever at the other end of the room (where the projector will be located). Do any of you know if it will sound OK if I just have all of my speakers and the sub towards the back of the room (behind me as I watch the screen)? Thanks

sregis
07-24-06, 09:42 AM
the q-gold is now freakin $495...glad i've waited!

Hoss27
07-27-06, 12:12 PM
I just picked up a q-gold last week for 450 with a rebate. I will be taking it back today or tomorrow. Not sure if I am going to exchange it yet or just work on getting seperates.

sregis
07-27-06, 03:05 PM
I just picked up a q-gold last week for 450 with a rebate. I will be taking it back today or tomorrow. Not sure if I am going to exchange it yet or just work on getting seperates.


wait- why are you returning it? and noticing that the price is now 450!

afrogt
07-27-06, 03:29 PM
The Q-Silver Receiver is a rebranded Sherwood RD-6105 Receiver.


If this is true then its an upgraded 6105. The Sherwood version doesn't have component video ins/outs.

http://sherwoodusa.com/prod_rd6105.html
http://sherwoodusa.com/prod_hts6500.html

Hoss27
07-27-06, 06:55 PM
I am returning it because of a few things. Biggest reason is the receiver seems to screw up the satellite signal to the TV. Kind of strange because it only screws with the picture from the satellite box. To make sure it was the receiver I hooked the box up straight to the TV and all was well, run the signal through the receiver and out the components to the TV and it gets screwed up again. Then the center channel speaker is screwed up. When you put a DTS movie in, that particular speaker will sometimes pop or crack and all of a sudden get crystal clear. Then after a while it will get muddy and eventually pop or crack again and clear up. I thought it might just be the receiver so I switched places with one of the other speakers and the problem moved with the speaker.

As to why I am thinking of going seperates instead of giving this system another shot? I don't know if it's the speakers or the receiver but I am not all that impressed with the overall sound quality. The sub lacks punch when it comes to music, and is barely adequate for movies IMHO. The highs seem to be non-existant but I'm not sure if that is due to the ribbon driver technology that doesn't create any of its own noise, or if something is wrong with the system itself. Considering the other problems so far, I am hoping I just got a bad box. What does come out of the speakers is very clear and sounds good though, which is why I am still considering giving it another shot.

sregis
07-27-06, 10:10 PM
hoss- i'm assuming you've spoken w/ people at sls?

Bob Caruthers
07-28-06, 11:16 AM
If this is true then its an upgraded 6105. The Sherwood version doesn't have component video ins/outs.

http://sherwoodusa.com/prod_rd6105.html
http://sherwoodusa.com/prod_hts6500.html


afrogt,

The Q-Line Silver receiver that I have is identical to the Sherwood 6105 (except for the color of course).

Bob

Hoss27
07-28-06, 01:17 PM
sregis,
What's there to talk to them about? I just figured I bought it at BB, I should take it back to BB. I was on the edge of exchanging it when the fiance said she was not impressed at all with the bass and she was more impressed with her cousins OLD (as in 10 or more years) Kenwood that sounded like absolute crap. I mean you could barely understand what people were saying through that thing. Personally I think she forgot how bad his sounded to try and make that comparison. LOL That being said I still find SLS very interesting and hope they manage to get things going. I'll be waiting for them to market the speakers seperately because they truly did sound very good, bare in mind I am no audiophile but the detail that came out of the speakers was amazing to me. It's just the highs weren't something I would call "brilliant" or "bright." Like I said though, I'm not sure if that was a function of the reciever, the speakers, or if that is how they are supposed to sound.

Anyhow with me not being convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the problems would be solved with an exchange, and her input, we have decided to go with the Onkyo HT-S780 for 319 shipped and the Oppo 971 for 199.99 shipped. This will provide us with upscaling for our LCD and a 10" sub instead of the downfiring 8" in the SLS system, with all the same decoding features.

We haven't ordered this setup yet though so if you have some ideas of possible things I might have done wrong in the setup of the SLS, feel free. I would note the sub was set to -12 from the factory, I turned it up to 0 and +5 which made quite a bit of difference. However it still lacked the punch. I just don't think an 8 is going to cut it for the size room we have.

sregis
07-28-06, 08:28 PM
i guess it was the "popping & cracking", etc that caught my attention...p'haps a hookup/cable issue. new equipment typically doesn't perform like that. figured the sls peep would know their stuff the best.

afrogt
07-28-06, 11:59 PM
The Q-Line Silver receiver that I have is identical to the Sherwood 6105 (except for the color of course).

Okay, I was looking at the Gold on the Best Buy website.

I have a Sherwood Newcastle receiver from at least 5 years ago and I had trouble running video thru it also. Caused interference on the TV. Its now relagated to the guest room mainly used for CD listening. Great sounding unit though. Not user friendly but looks good and sounds good. Oh well.

Hoss27
07-29-06, 11:06 AM
If it was just the popping I would have definitely worked with it. Funny thing is it ONLY happened when playing a DTS film, and it moved with the speaker. Maybe the crossover inside? I dunno. I have to say though I have checked out several other HTiB setups and NONE of the speakers compare to the apparent build quality of the SLS system. I don't think I found a setup that didn't have paper cones, but the SLS has Kevlar. The SLS weigh 6.1lbs a piece with nice sturdy build, others are strictly MDF veneer that look acceptable until you bump them into something, or they are small satellites that look like computer speakers. No matter how loud I cranked it there was no noticeable distortion out of the speakers, the sub was a different matter altogether. I didn't play them very loud for very long though, I do live in an apartment after all. The only complaint I really had about the speakers themselves was the stands. It would be nice if they had some way of clipping in or offered some sort of taller stand.

For those wondering it seems the Q-Gold reciever is a Sherwood USA RD-8601 any experiences?

sregis
07-29-06, 02:02 PM
i was wondering myself if one could use standard stands for those sls speaks...or perhaps wall-mount them.

Hoss27
07-29-06, 02:53 PM
They have slots for the provided stands on all four sides so you can mount them horizontally or vertically as well as key holes so you can mount them to a wall. At 6 lbs I would suggest finding a stud to bolt them to. :) I imagine you could use a universal wall mount but not 100% sure.

rvaidyan
07-30-06, 01:23 AM
Any idea what DVD player comes with the Q-Gold package? Is it also a Sherwood?

SLSAdvocate
07-31-06, 09:02 AM
They have slots for the provided stands on all four sides so you can mount them horizontally or vertically as well as key holes so you can mount them to a wall. At 6 lbs I would suggest finding a stud to bolt them to. :) I imagine you could use a universal wall mount but not 100% sure.

Hoss -

I haven't been on the board for a while and I'm very surprised at your earlier comments. You must have had a setup problem to get the symptoms you describe. I'll assume that your DTS source was connected via digital but there is a common problem that occurs when a DTS signal is selected on the DVD and the connection from the DVD to the receiver is analog. Maybe you connected the DVD both analog and digital and it was sending the DTS through the analog by default? You have to set the receiver to "auto" if you want it to sense the digital vs. analog signal. It's best to only use a digital connection from the DVD to the receiver.

As for the sub, did you run through the balancing/speaker levels routine using the supplied microphone? I set the sub at +/- 50% gain and then ran the speaker balancing. It sounded fine. This could be a musical taste issue as a lot of people like very heavy bass in their sound whereas I'd rather hear balanced, as the producer intended bass. Room placement can have a huge effect on sub performance as well.

I don't know about the video processing issue you describe but you can run it directly to the TV. I have had setups that way several times.

Sorry it didn't work out for you but it sounds like you have been listening to some other equipment that may not have been as good. If you are looking for "bright" sounding high end, that is actually one of the problems the SLS ribbon drivers address. Most lower cost speakers are extremely and overly bright at the high end; to the point of borderline distortion. Again, it could be a musical taste thing also. I prefer accurate and balanced not overly "bright." Maybe you are used to bright sounding speakers and the corrected sound struck you as different?

To all others as well, I'll try to keep up with this thread and the other SLS threads and answer questions whenever I can.

P.S. I have the SLS Gold speakers on stands that place them at ear level when seated and on an even plane with the center channel. The surrounds are placed on the same stands so all 5 are at the same height. I did keep the included (quite heavy duty) stands on them as well because by design, those stands isolate the speakers from wherever they are set.

-SLSA

Edit: Note, since I have been asked twice now, no, I do not work for SLS. I have no affiliation with them. I own a small amount of their stock, (which is what led me to buy the Gold in the first place), but not enough to make posting inflated or misleading info worth it...

swamdog
08-02-06, 09:57 PM
Anyone else have any thoughts on this system? I'm looking to buy this weekend and was considering the Denon S101 also. My Sammy is black and I'd like to keep the theme going, that and the fact that the 101 is $150 more leads me here. I'll get a dedicated audio system once I get a house. In the meantime I need a system to get me by till then. Any help would be appreciated.

sregis
08-02-06, 10:38 PM
Anyone else have any thoughts on this system? I'm looking to buy this weekend and was considering the Denon S101 also. My Sammy is black and I'd like to keep the theme going, that and the fact that the 101 is $150 more leads me here. I'll get a dedicated audio system once I get a house. In the meantime I need a system to get me by till then. Any help would be appreciated.

just purchased yesterday for a friday delivery; can't say much yet.

swamdog
08-02-06, 11:12 PM
just purchased yesterday for a friday delivery; can't say much yet.
I'd be interested in your opinion once you set it up. I have a 10% off card good Fri-Sun. at BB. I plan on buying this weekend as $50 is $50. If you have time to post your initial impressions, I'd appreciate that. I really want to keep the black theme going in my LR, and so far, the SLS Gold is the only HTIB that's trippin my trigger. :cool:

sregis
08-03-06, 10:03 AM
I'd be interested in your opinion once you set it up. I have a 10% off card good Fri-Sun. at BB. I plan on buying this weekend as $50 is $50. If you have time to post your initial impressions, I'd appreciate that. I really want to keep the black theme going in my LR, and so far, the SLS Gold is the only HTIB that's trippin my trigger. :cool:

unfortunately, i won't have it set up till early next week. i too wanted the black color, and speakers a cut or 2 above the rest.

Hoss27
08-03-06, 01:23 PM
SLSA,

Let's see if we can figure this out. I don't think it was an analog problem with the DTS. The only cables even coming out of the DVD were a set of components that went directly to the TV, and a fiber optic cable. It was a cheap one though, $15 phillips at wally world, maybe that made a difference? Although it never screwed up playing cd's, regular dolby digital, or anything else. I am thinking, although I am far from any sort of expert, that somehow DTS is maybe more demanding on the speakers/crossovers?? None the less, like I stated earlier, the problem moved with the speaker. I moved the "center" channel to the FR output and the FR speaker to the center output, specifically to see if it was the signal or the speaker, and the problem stayed with the speaker and moved to the FR position. If that was the only problem I would have just gotten a new speaker. I did use the supplied mic to set up the surround. There was no problem there except for my limitations on speaker placement. Which obviously isn't SLS's fault. :)

As for what I have been listening too. I have to be honest. I don't listen to much except movies. I listen to the radio in the car, and own maybe a dozen cd's I have collected over the last decade or so. I've bought more I just have no idea where they are, if that tells you anything about my listening habits. I am definitely not one to look to for musical advice. I did note however that the SLS speakers were much more detailed than any other speaker that I listened to for any extended period of time. For a lot of sounds they made it feel like you were in the room with the instrument. The acoustic guitar for example, you could hear every string being played, reminding me of an old friend that played. The experience made it feel like he was there in the room with me. The air coming out of the sax instead of just a note made it feel like I was next to the player. This is what I mean by detail, not sure if it is the audiophiles definition or not.

The brightness, or lack thereof, was a strange jump for me. As I stated before though, I didn't know if this was supposed to be this way or if the receiver may have had other problems leaving out the higher ranges. Although I never could identify anything "natural" missing. Best way I could describe it is it seemed when I listened to music the highest cymbols *sp??* were missing. Yet in movies like "The Musketeer" you could clearly hear the swords dragging along each other up to the highest pitches as if you were there.

The main reason I took it back was ultimately because of the receiver, not the speakers, which I don't feel is really SLS's fault. Except maybe they could pair a great set of speakers with a better receiver. The video problems were very annoying. Maybe it had something to do with converting the satellite signal from s-video to component? The sub was lacking what I call punch, I could hear the bass but I couldn't feel it. But what do you expect from an 8? I don't like bloated bass or anything, but I do like to feel a little at volume.

In the end I was left with mixed feelings. I am anxiously looking forward to the next version, maybe drop the DVD player, rebadge a better quality receiver and a little bigger sub? I would definitely give it another go at the same price I paid. Maybe rebadge the Oppo, bring the price up a little and call it the platinum. I would pay an extra 100-150 for it then.

For the record I don't think I am going to go with the Onkyo either.

Hoss27
08-03-06, 01:33 PM
I should note the problem with the speaker popping was not as prevalent when I upgraded to 16g copper wire from the 18g aluminum wire.

swamdog
08-04-06, 12:22 PM
Screw it...I just ordered a Q-line Gold from BB. It's ready for pickup, but I have grass to cut first. I'll pick it up later and set it up tonight. I hope I didn't make a mistake with this system.

sregis
08-04-06, 12:31 PM
Screw it...I just ordered a Q-line Gold from BB. It's ready for pickup, but I have grass to cut first. I'll pick it up later and set it up tonight. I hope I didn't make a mistake with this system.

sometimes you just have to say: wtf? mine's in the mail. hope u have help moving that- it's in a huge box, and weighs 130 lbs!

Hoss27
08-04-06, 12:56 PM
swamdog,
If you feel it was a mistake the only thing you will have lost is some time. After all BB does have a good return policy. :D Had mine for a week and they didn't give any crap about bringing it back.

The box is pretty big, the equipment is efficiently and well packed. I needed a dolly to get mine upstairs and into the apt.

swamdog
08-04-06, 06:48 PM
Yeah...I've seen the box and I live on the 3rd floor. I'll get someone to help carry this puppy up the stairs. If I can't find anyone, I'll do the unpack in the back of my GTI and carry it up piece by piece. :cool:

swamdog
08-05-06, 12:09 AM
I had to opt for the latter and I'm wore out. If the weight of the system has any bearing on the sound, I'll be happy. I'm pretty tired so I'll post my opinion of the system in a day or two. Thanks for all the info regarding the SLS Q-Line Gold. :cool:

sregis
08-05-06, 09:04 AM
thing's a monster! look forward to any commentary.

silverserver
08-08-06, 12:24 PM
I just finished hooking my Q-Line Gold up yesterday, and I must say I love it! The sound from these speakers is so pure. Even at very loud volume levels, there isn't the faintest bit of hiss or distortion. I was worried about the sub being too small for deep bass, but after watching the opening scene from Star Wars Episode III, my fears are alleviated. My wife called me a nerd when she saw my look of total joy when the THX logo erupted. Now I just need to find a way to make the OSD display on all inputs. I'm awaiting cables from monoprice that should help me out there. I'm very satisfied with my purchase.

I tested many HTiBs in various stores, and what this setup may lack in features (HDMI, DVD upconversion) it more than makes up for in sound quality. Sure, I could have spent twice to four times what I paid for this setup to try to piece together a system with those missing features, but for the money, I don't think you can go wrong with this system. By trying to save a few hundred bucks on a Yamaha or Onkyo, which btw were on my short list, you will get what you pay for. Of course higher-end Yamaha, Denon, and Onkyo receivers are great, but I didn't want to pay $1000 for just the receiver and then have to pay big bucks for each speaker. For a budget that is $500 or less for a home theater sound system, I haven't heard anything that comes close to SLS.

Hoss27, you obviously got a defective system. I would definitely recommend exchanging it and trying another. Good luck whichever way you go.

Hoss27
08-08-06, 03:05 PM
Silverserver,
Mine was defective, only reason I returned it instead of exchanged it is that I wasn't sure there would be enough improvement to make me happy. What's funny is I went to BB last night to play with the Insignia speakers everybody is raving about and stopped to play with the SLS on display. Even sitting in the middle of BB with all the noise the speakers sounded much better than the ones I got. The sub seemed louder, but it was also blown so I ended up turning that down/off to listen to the speakers by themselves. They shined much more than the set I had, making me wonder if I just hadn't broken them in AND/OR the receiver was REALLY screwed up in my box.

Kipa
08-08-06, 05:00 PM
"...The System, which is available at Best Buy for $799, was dubbed 'the latest advancement in sound since the stereo,' by Mr. Jones..."

Me personally? I would be very leary of something that debuted 3 months ago for $799 and is now selling for $549 at Best Buy of all places (not known for their prices). Also, the quote from Q. Jones would make me run away as well.

http://www.slsloudspeakers.com/content/view/203/89

Kipa

silverserver
08-09-06, 12:12 PM
Me personally? I would be very leary of something that debuted 3 months ago for $799 and is now selling for $549 at Best Buy of all places (not known for their prices).

Kipa

The price drop is probably due to not many of these systems selling because of lack of brand recognition. That will soon change though. I applaud companies like SLS and Westinghouse Digital that can release a product which can compete with the big name brands for usually half the price. Samsung, Sony, Yamaha, and Onkyo to name a few have similar offerings for usually twice the price, but half the performance/features. So many people have the need to see that well-known brand name on their electronics, even if the product sells for twice what it is worth. Usually what happens though is once a company is well established, they start trimming features and quality in the name of shaving off the bottom line. Onkyo comes to mind lately.

Anyway, watched V for Vendetta last night (great movie, btw) and I am super impressed by this system. Dialog, explosions, gunshots, everything sounded phenomenal. I just hope the neighbors have thick, well insulated walls! :D

drifterxny
08-11-06, 01:36 AM
Could anyone tell me if there are any compatible reasonably priced speaker stands for these speakers? Wall mounting isn't an option in my apartment. Would really appreciate it if anyone can recommend some stand sets.

Thanks,

sregis
08-11-06, 08:17 PM
i'd be interested in any suggestions on stands as well. just starting to put mine together...if i can figure out what cables to use! the sls people have been helpful in the past...i'll run the stand question by them.

Bob Caruthers
08-12-06, 09:41 AM
>>>if i can figure out what cables to use!<<<

sregis,

The cables are color coded.

hth, Bob

sregis
08-12-06, 10:07 AM
bob- i mean the components and coaxial digital audio cables. i'm of a generation of: wind + and - speaker wire around posts and plug the freaking thing in. it's beyond me how the industry expects anyone w/out an electrical engineering degree to put this shite together. ;)

Bob Caruthers
08-12-06, 10:46 AM
sregis,

I know exacty what you are talking about!

If this helps, the only things I have coming into my SLS receiver are an Optical Audio cable from the DISH receiver and a Coax Audio cable from my Pioneer DVR-640H.

Good luck,

Bob

sregis
08-12-06, 12:27 PM
bob- working w/ a guy at sls who's getting me going w/ 3 component and two coax digital audio cables. i'm at somewhat of a loss as to how and why, but i'm just following directions. this is the thing- until one can somehow get up to speed, you're totally at their mercy. i suppose one can simplify w/ a single HTIB system (sorry peep, the sound simply sucks). not at all knocking sls, but this transitional experience from stereo to surround has been highly frustrating and often humiliating.

RojasTKD
08-12-06, 07:40 PM
I was looking at one of these at BB just hours ago. The one thing that I didn't like was I it didnt seem to have a DVi or HDMI output for my display for the DVD player.

Oh, well maybe it will soon come. Then again I didnt get a real good look, nayby it is there.

swamdog
08-12-06, 10:14 PM
bob- working w/ a guy at sls who's getting me going w/ 3 component and two coax digital audio cables. i'm at somewhat of a loss as to how and why, but i'm just following directions. this is the thing- until one can somehow get up to speed, you're totally at their mercy. i suppose one can simplify w/ a single HTIB system (sorry peep, the sound simply sucks). not at all knocking sls, but this transitional experience from stereo to surround has been highly frustrating and often humiliating.
I struggled with mine for a few days, now I have a super clean setup. I have a Motorola HD cable box and 2 HDMI inputs on my Sammy. I bought a DVI to HDMI cable and connected it from the cable box to the TV. I bought 2 optical cables and connected one from the cable box to optical 1 on the SLS receiver, the other went from the DVD player to the optical 2 on the receiver. Those are the only cables I have coming off the receiver. I finished it of with a set of component cables from the DVD player to the TV. I have this huge pile of cables that I no longer need and I'm diggin that. Good luck. :cool:

sregis
08-13-06, 09:20 PM
guy @ sls e-mailed me suggesting i use 2 dig audio coax's...i understand one between the dvd and receiver, but where would the other go between??

swamdog
08-13-06, 10:13 PM
If your talking optical cables, from the cable box to the receiver. If your setup is anything like mine, follow the above instructions. You have to switch between audio and video as well as digital inputs via the receiver. I hope you get it figured out as this system is badass. :cool:

sregis
08-14-06, 09:03 AM
If your talking optical cables, from the cable box to the receiver. If your setup is anything like mine, follow the above instructions. You have to switch between audio and video as well as digital inputs via the receiver. I hope you get it figured out as this system is badass. :cool:

no, he wanted me to buy 2 digital AUDIO coax cables...also, i'm not seeing any coax capability on my cable box...

ProjectEF
08-14-06, 12:43 PM
I recommended this system to a friend as a htib solution. I am familiar with SLS's commercial grade, home speakers and sound quality so it was a no brainer. He bought it from BB this past sunday, and that afternoon I hooked it up for him. I knew the system would sound good, but I had no idea it was going to sound this good! It looks like SLS didn't cheap out this system because of mass production. As with any speaker, placement is key so measure, install, and test. The mic does an excellent job of calibrating once this has been done (follow the tripod advice if possible). I set the feature rich receivers cut off to 70hz, and for reference we watched a few movies with well mixed DD/DTS tracks (I,Robot, House of Flying Daggers, Behind Enemy Lines, U-571, Batman Begins, etc.). For an 8" 100 watt subwoofer, it handled all of the movies quite well. The audio separation and clarity from the mains and sats was outstanding, and the dual 4" woven woofers could actually go pretty low on their own (all things considering). But what had me almost dumbfounded was when I decided to play a few audio CD's by Vanessa Mae. I could practically see her hitting each individual string on her violin, and place the other orchestra members locations . This surely is not a typical $500 htib (with ribbon drivers too). Oh and by the way, Quincy Jones used SLS speakers in his studios well before they decided to partner (not the Q-Line obviously), so it's very believable that he would help develope this system. I think I was more happy than my friend was after playing with this thing. So..now I'm also going to have to recommend this system to friends over every other htib that Best Buy/CC sells (even the denon). So (general public) don't write off this system because you or employees have not heard of the company prior. This is one of the biggest bargains in brick and mortar htib.

SLSAdvocate
08-14-06, 04:49 PM
no, he wanted me to buy 2 digital AUDIO coax cables...also, i'm not seeing any coax capability on my cable box...
Does your cable box have optical audio out?

swamdog
08-15-06, 07:33 AM
Hey SLSA...Any possibility of posting a pic or link to the speaker stands you are using? I haven't found any that fit the speakers very well. I may just wall mount mine as I need to get my LR back in order soon.

SLSAdvocate
08-15-06, 08:22 AM
http://i8.tinypic.com/24o4pc1.jpg

b4z
08-15-06, 10:02 AM
Apparently they no longer sell the silver line series and
neither offers a HDMI for the dvd player.
I have some friends who have told this system about and they do not want black speakers in theirroom.

Bob Caruthers
08-15-06, 10:32 AM
b4z,

The Q-Line Silver is still available:

http://www.buysls.com/catalog/products_new.php

The price seems to have gone up a bit, though.

I'm not sure if it is available anywhere else other than buysls.

Bob

drifterxny
08-15-06, 11:38 AM
Just set mine up last night, took about 30 mins. Didn't get a chance to test out dvds yet, but did try about every genre of music cds out there. The speaker set is awesome. Such crisp and clear sounds without any distortion (too late at night to blast it all the way up though).
The only negative from this package is the dvd player since it doesn't have hdmi, but that's not a big deal since decent upconverting players are so cheap nowadays.

Slsadvocate, do those stands lock into the speakers or you simply placed the speakers on top? I'm afraid of accidentally knocking the speakers over or a tug at the wires. Appreciate any advice you might have on a set of 4 stands.

SLSAdvocate
08-15-06, 12:11 PM
They are just sitting on top right now and could be easily knocked over/off. The set up is temporary as I am moving soon. I could attach them but won't go through the trouble for now. I'm not sure how I'll use them at the new place. I may mount them. The SLS speakers don't fit perfectly but it's the right height and I had the stands around so I used them. They look ok...

The stands are actually old Premier T70 model stands marketed by Paradigm and apparently still available. I used to carry them in my store, back in the day...

http://www.paradigm.com/Website/News/Downloads/Downloads.html

sregis
08-15-06, 03:54 PM
couple q-gold questions:

is it best to keep the receiver on standby?

can one control the subwoofer w/ the remote?

SLSAdvocate
08-15-06, 04:22 PM
couple q-gold questions:

is it best to keep the receiver on standby?

can one control the subwoofer w/ the remote?
1. Yes.

2. Yes. Sort of. Not the subwoofer itself, but the levels coming from the receiver to the sub. You can raise or lower the sub level as driven by the receiver, from the remote. When the receiver is running and the remote in audio control mode, you press the small round button located toward top center "ChSel." It says "T/V" on the button itself. Immediately to the left are Ch/Level Up-Dn buttons. When you press the CHSel the display will show "User 0." Continue pressing the ChSel and it cycles through all the active speaker channels depending on which mode you are in. If you are Stereo, there are 3 (L,R, Sub), in digital or DSP modes there are 5 (L, C, R, SR, SL, Sub). Stop on the channel you want to change. Use the adjacent CH/Level buttons to raise and lower the selected channel level.

sregis
08-16-06, 10:18 AM
thanks sls. also re the sub woof, i notice as long as the receiver's on "standby", the sub light stays on. other than continually, manually, turning it off, is there a way to get that off? or even better, 86 the blue all together?

SLSAdvocate
08-16-06, 10:53 AM
thanks sls. also re the sub woof, i notice as long as the receiver's on "standby", the sub light stays on. other than continually, manually, turning it off, is there a way to get that off? or even better, 86 the blue all together?The blue light is lit at a lower brightness when the sub is on standby regardless of the state of the receiver. It gets brighter when the sub is active. I know of no way to get rid of it completely but you can plug the sub into the switched outlet on the receiver and it would be off when the receiver is on standby or off.

Hoss27
08-16-06, 10:59 AM
Mine had an "auto" setting on the back that turned it off automatically when there was no music going through the sub.

sregis
08-16-06, 11:13 AM
Mine had an "auto" setting on the back that turned it off automatically when there was no music going through the sub.

tried that. as long as there's power to the amp, that freakin light's on.

sregis
08-16-06, 12:38 PM
on another point, might someone suggest a good, simple, universal that could operate my tv and q-gold setup?

FlyGTI
08-28-06, 11:45 PM
sregis,

I'm not sure if it'll work, but I'd guess that it will...have you tried the Harmony 659? If not, I'd at least give it a shot. (A certain big box store with a big yellow tag in its logo) has some coupons out there that might knock the price down a notch or two, and I'd guess that it'll do the trick once you've programmed it. Just a little advice from the peanut gallery.

Now...could one of you Q-Line owners be a friend and snap a picture or two of the BACK of the speakers and post 'em up, or send them to me? rroossinck at googlemail (abbreviate it...you know what I mean).

I'm about 90% there on convincing the wifey dearest that this is the way to go...just need to find a way to put these things on the stands that we've already got.

Cross your fingers, kids, the Sony Dream DAV-C770 may be history yet, and the HP PL-4260N might actually get a system that'll make it happy(er)!

Bob Caruthers
08-29-06, 12:49 PM
sregis,

This remote works well for me:

http://www.remotecentral.com/mx500/index.html

Others may have recommendations as well.

hth, Bob

hardballpete
08-31-06, 01:14 PM
Anybody just buy this HTIB set just for the speakers alone?

Would like to use it with the receiver and dvd player I already own. Am I crazy? Are the speakers alone worth the $500 price tag?

Any feedback?

Thanks, Pete

FlyGTI
08-31-06, 01:36 PM
Would there be any issues with the speakers being six ohm speakers as opposed to the typical 4 or 8? Does that present a problem for any receivers?

I'm planning on purchasing one on Saturday, and down the road when funds and/or the need is available, I'll be stepping up receivers.

SLSAdvocate
08-31-06, 04:28 PM
Would there be any issues with the speakers being six ohm speakers as opposed to the typical 4 or 8? Does that present a problem for any receivers?

I'm planning on purchasing one on Saturday, and down the road when funds and/or the need is available, I'll be stepping up receivers.The SLS speakers are labeled 4 ohm. The SLS/Sherwood receiver indicates 6 ohm.

SLSAdvocate
08-31-06, 04:30 PM
Anybody just buy this HTIB set just for the speakers alone?

Would like to use it with the receiver and dvd player I already own. Am I crazy? Are the speakers alone worth the $500 price tag?

Any feedback?

Thanks, PeteThey are close to worth it, IMO. As I mentioned to FlyGTI, the speakers are labeled 4 ohm. Keep that in mind when selecting a receiver.

hardballpete
08-31-06, 05:43 PM
I'm using a Panasonic digital amp, the sa-xr50. I'm no audio expert. Having 4 ohm speakers requires more power? The SLS website says the sats are 6 ohm by the way.

What are the ramifications of the SLS being 4 or 6 ohm with my receiver?

Thanks SLSAdvocate.

jondav11801
09-01-06, 01:03 PM
With the Q-Gold receiver is it true that one cannot swith between digital inputs using the remote? From what I have read it seems that the digital inputs can only be switched at the receiver. Knid of a PITA if true as I do switch frequently between DVD and DVR which both use digital inputs. Any work arounds for this?

Aside from the above issue is anyone controling the Q-Gold with a Logitech Harmony 880?

Thanks,
Jondav11801

FlyGTI
09-02-06, 08:11 PM
Jondav, I'll be controlling with a Harmony 659 by the end of the night.

jondav11801
09-03-06, 01:51 PM
Jondav, I'll be controlling with a Harmony 659 by the end of the night.


Great to hear that. Let me know how it works out. This is the only thing that is keeping me from pulling the trigger on this purchase. Well that and figuring out how to get the beast into my car and up to my fourth floor condo.

FlyGTI
09-03-06, 02:49 PM
Seems to work just fine, although I'm still trying to determine whether or not there's a way to make the optical signal recognize via remote. I may be calling Logitech today to see if there's a way to input a custom command. Otherwise, it works great!

FlyGTI
09-03-06, 06:35 PM
Oh, and by the way...when I picked this up on Friday night, I had to tear the box apart so I could fit in the trunk.

Glad I did, though.

jondav11801
09-04-06, 11:43 AM
FlyGTI,
Thanks for the info. So, just to confirm, it is true that the digital inputs cannot be switched via remote. If I wanted to switch from DVD to STB (both using digital inputs) I would have to get up and walk over to the receiver. Is this correct?

Jondav11801

SLSAdvocate
09-04-06, 02:15 PM
FlyGTI,
Thanks for the info. So, just to confirm, it is true that the digital inputs cannot be switched via remote. If I wanted to switch from DVD to STB (both using digital inputs) I would have to get up and walk over to the receiver. Is this correct?

Jondav11801This is not correct. You set the input to your device. There are 2 optical and 2 co-ax digital inputs. See page 45 of your manual.

jondav11801
09-04-06, 04:34 PM
This is not correct. You set the input to your device. There are 2 optical and 2 co-ax digital inputs. See page 45 of your manual.


Thanks SLSAdvocat. I have not purchased this system yet and was just trying to verify that it would work the way I want it to. It sounds like it will. I am heading off to pick up a system now.

jondav11801

hardballpete
09-06-06, 10:52 AM
I've noticed that the center channel speaker does not sound similar to the rest of the 4 speakers. It has a muffled bassy type of sound, not as detailed in the upper frequencies. Is this supposed to be by design, or is something amiss here.

Would appreciate other owner's feedback.

Thanks, Pete

SLSAdvocate
09-06-06, 11:53 AM
I've noticed that the center channel speaker does not sound similar to the rest of the 4 speakers. It has a muffled bassy type of sound, not as detailed in the upper frequencies. Is this supposed to be by design, or is something amiss here.

Would appreciate other owner's feedback.

Thanks, PeteSomething is amiss. Swap the center with one of the others and see if the muffled, bassy sound moves with the speaker. If it does, get it replaced. Probably contact SLS or BB.

hardballpete
09-06-06, 03:27 PM
Called SLS for a replacement. Guy said ribbon tweeter probably is defective or was damaged in shipping or something. Swapped the center with a surround and definitely sounds much better.

Thanks

FlyGTI
09-06-06, 06:43 PM
Hey SLS Advocate...I read your post and page 45 of the manual, and while I get all that, and agree that it should work just fine, I'm wondering if there's a way to set this up so that my Harmony 659 would be able to make the switch? I'm trying to get the remotes down to one, lest my wife rupture a spleen when becoming irate with me for leaving them all over the couch/coffee table/whatever.

What's your best guess?

SLSAdvocate
09-07-06, 05:14 AM
Hey SLS Advocate...I read your post and page 45 of the manual, and while I get all that, and agree that it should work just fine, I'm wondering if there's a way to set this up so that my Harmony 659 would be able to make the switch? I'm trying to get the remotes down to one, lest my wife rupture a spleen when becoming irate with me for leaving them all over the couch/coffee table/whatever.

What's your best guess?Tell the Harmony the receiver is a Sherwood RD-8601. You should be able to do anything you want after that.

FlyGTI
09-07-06, 09:02 AM
That's the problem...I've told it that. Eh, maybe it's a specialized function that needs to be added in the custom configuration section. My concern though, is that the remote won't recognize the OSD Functions, which from the manual appears to be the spot to change to a digital signal.

Now, for something completely different, while I've got your attention. Last night I decided to move some things around since they were pretty cramped, and I also decided to use the component upconversion from the Sherwood. Plugged the S-Vid and L/R composites from the Qwest DirecTV box into the S-Vid Input and appropriate composite spots and then the component from the monitor out to the Component1 of my HP 4260.

Since then, my DirecTV signal is sketchy at best. 70% of the time the signal doesn't even get recognized. The other 30% of the time, it's a reasonable picture, but it gets really goofy, like there's a glitch a la the Max Headroom commercials from the 80s. Waves in the screen, etc.

Any thoughts? Try Component2 on the HP? New set of Components (these were new ones...Wire Logic was the brand name...a Costco special)? I'm all ears.

But...I'd like to get it done before the wife gets home this afternoon. She's put up with a LOT of tinkering from me and countless trips to the stereo/av shops and all she wants is to be able to watch the tv and enjoy herself.

Thanks!

SLSAdvocate
09-07-06, 11:23 AM
That's the problem...I've told it that. Eh, maybe it's a specialized function that needs to be added in the custom configuration section. My concern though, is that the remote won't recognize the OSD Functions, which from the manual appears to be the spot to change to a digital signal.Are you talking about the Harmony remote or the SLS remote? Use the SLS remote to set the digital audio associations. There should be no reason to change it for day to day use.

Now, for something completely different, while I've got your attention. Last night I decided to move some things around since they were pretty cramped, and I also decided to use the component upconversion from the Sherwood. Plugged the S-Vid and L/R composites from the Qwest DirecTV box into the S-Vid Input and appropriate composite spots and then the component from the monitor out to the Component1 of my HP 4260.

Since then, my DirecTV signal is sketchy at best. 70% of the time the signal doesn't even get recognized. The other 30% of the time, it's a reasonable picture, but it gets really goofy, like there's a glitch a la the Max Headroom commercials from the 80s. Waves in the screen, etc. Doesn't the DirecTV box have component or better yet an HDMI output? Why bother using S-Video at all? Also, I recommend connecting the video sources directly to the TV. No need to use the receiver for video switching. Just adds a layer of processing. Your Harmony can switch to the proper TV input as part of the command sequence. Connect the S-Video out of the receiver to an S-Video input on your TV and switch to that input only to view te OSD menus when needed which should be rarely once you're set up.

I have never attempted the connection you describe (and I wouldn't bother frankly...) so I can't address what you are seeing specifically. Although, your description sounds like you have connected both the S-Video and the composite video outputs to the receiver...

Any thoughts? Try Component2 on the HP? New set of Components (these were new ones...Wire Logic was the brand name...a Costco special)? I'm all ears.

But...I'd like to get it done before the wife gets home this afternoon. She's put up with a LOT of tinkering from me and countless trips to the stereo/av shops and all she wants is to be able to watch the tv and enjoy herself.

Thanks!It really sounds as though you're making this more complicated than it needs to be. Keep it simple...

gerger
09-07-06, 10:56 PM
hey all,

hope this does not sound too stupid, but i need help figuring out how to get the receiver to output sound from regular televison programming. I hooked up my toshiba dvd and that sounds great, but i do not see any button to swith the outut on the receiver to the TV audio. I used the component cables from the monitor slots on the receiver to the unused components on my tv. how the heck do you get it to recognize the tv..Does the satelite box need to get hooked up to the receiver??? I have a 62 inch Toshiba DLP....Do I need to use the S-video instead of the components??? any sugestions would be helpful..

SLSAdvocate
09-08-06, 05:05 AM
how the heck do you get it to recognize the tv..Does the satelite box need to get hooked up to the receiver???Yes. Use co-ax or optical audio output from the sat box to the receiver. Connect HDMI or component video from the sat box to the receiver or directly to the TV.

I have a 62 inch Toshiba DLP....Do I need to use the S-video instead of the components???No. Use one of, in order of preference as available: HDMI, component, S-Video, composite.

FlyGTI
09-08-06, 04:59 PM
SLS, I reached the same conclusion about the complexity. I'll be re-vamping tonight. With the DirecTV box, though, the best output I've got is S-video.

Unfortunately, though, this will mean that one way or another I need to get the receiver to recognize a discrete command to support switching to a digital input, because when I want to watch OTA HD or my upconverting DVD through HDMI, I need to cycle through to my optical connection in.

I may call Sherwood about this to see what discrete codes are available. I don't want more than one remote in my living room, and I bought the Harmony for this very purpose.

gerger
09-08-06, 05:59 PM
ok..

have optical from box to receiver...box is hooked to tv with component. do i hook component from receiver monitor area to component 2 on tv??? how do you select tv audio on the receiver. I see tape, aux, video 1 (dvd player), etc, but no tv or monitor option.

gerger
09-08-06, 06:16 PM
sls.

how do you select the tv on the receiever once all of above is done??

hardballpete
09-08-06, 07:07 PM
Make sure you have the component monitor out on the receiver going to any open component in on your tv. That will route your video to the tv. On the receiver there is a button that cycles thru all the digital inputs. Keep pressing it til you hear audio. That's all there is to it.

Enjoy

gerger
09-08-06, 10:01 PM
got it...thanks pete....anychance you know what sls' remote code is so i can add the receiver to my tv universal remote???? also any good recomendations on good speaker stands that will give good height and good fit to sls speakers???? Thanks for any advice

FlyGTI
09-09-06, 09:06 AM
I've got a list of discrete codes from Sherwood, but I don't think those will help you, Gerger. Sorry. Bear in mind, as you set up the universal remote, that the receiver is, in all actuality, a Sherwood RD-8601.

Dexter Harvey
09-15-06, 10:16 AM
bestbuy no longer selling the Q-Line Gold Great why!
Now we can buy the speakers and buy our own Receiver.
It was always about the speakers not the cheap receiver which there did not make.
Or the dvd player.Now you can add a much better sub and bring these speakers to the tru glory that there deserve.This is the best that could have happen get them while there last.

Q-Gold Satellite Speaker
[QG5000-S] $69.95
buysls com

Q-Line Gold Center Channel Speaker
[QG5000-C] $69.95
buysls com

This is the reciever I'am going use
ONKYO TX-SR603XB 7.1 Channel Home Theater Receiver $349.99
amazon
still looking for the right sub.

FlyGTI
09-15-06, 11:23 AM
If this is true (has anyone else confirmed this?), then I'd say that those of you who are in the market for a set of these start watching your local stores very closely. They might slash the price in order to get the inventory gone.

However, I was at a Best Buy last night in West Des Moines where the sales guy told me, after trying to sell me a $43 optical cable, that the SLS Q-Line is selling very well. The price was the SRP for that system....no mention of blowing them out in order to get rid of the inventory.

sregis
09-15-06, 11:58 AM
this is great news for prospective buyers who might otherwise've looked elsewhere for speakers. i've been really happy w/ the sound.

SLSAdvocate
09-15-06, 12:23 PM
If this is true (has anyone else confirmed this?), then I'd say that those of you who are in the market for a set of these start watching your local stores very closely. They might slash the price in order to get the inventory gone.

However, I was at a Best Buy last night in West Des Moines where the sales guy told me, after trying to sell me a $43 optical cable, that the SLS Q-Line is selling very well. The price was the SRP for that system....no mention of blowing them out in order to get rid of the inventory.Neither party, BB or SLS will announce anything. To my knowledge, this is true in selected markets where the system has not sold as well as others. In some markets, there have been multiple re-orders and transfers from other stores as well as a holding of price at or near MSRP. Not surprising actually. Some BBs are better managed to actually have staff be able to speak to the features and benefits of a particular product.

FlyGTI
09-19-06, 03:30 PM
I've tested a few local stores on whether or not they've read the review in Sound & Vision, and I've only run into one person in three stores (and seven salespeople) who have even read the article. No wonder they're not selling...they haven't been trained in the basics...only the name brands. Yamaha, Klipsch, and Monster...that's about all it seems like the people that I talked to would/could recommend.

It's always an interesting question to ask what a ribbon tweeter really is.

FlyGTI
09-27-06, 09:18 AM
This is the reciever I'am going use
ONKYO TX-SR603XB 7.1 Channel Home Theater Receiver $349.99
amazon.

Dex, I'm wondering if you couldn't get this receiver about $130 cheaper if you took a look at eCost.com. They've got a refurb'd 603X for $219 today.

Just a thought, but if you went this direction, you could put that extra $130 towards a nicer sub.

SLSnewbie
09-29-06, 01:30 AM
I was at a Best Buy in the Bay Area today and saw the SLS Audio QLine Gold (1200 W) in the clearance section marked 60% off. Bought it for $240 (instead of the listed $600). Cam home and did a google search to figure out if I made the right decision (hadn't heard of this brand before) and chanced upon this forum. Hope I have a good experience coz I don't want to return it!

sregis
09-30-06, 10:18 AM
an amazing deal, newbie! the speakers alone are worth more

zhelder
09-30-06, 11:24 PM
I just jumped on this set too. Got a sealed unit being sold as an "Open Box" item for $200. The marked price was $299, but I haggled with the guy and they gave it to me for $200. Looks like a very nice rig, and that giant picture of Qunicy Jones smiling on the side of the box just sealed the deal for me (that and the real cheap price and the good reviews). I wonder why they discontinued this unit?

sregis
10-01-06, 06:03 PM
I wonder why they discontinued this unit?

slsadvocate- any insights on sls' plans?

SLSAdvocate
10-02-06, 04:24 PM
slsadvocate- any insights on sls' plans?I mentioned earlier what I thought was the case, certain markets closing out. But I am checking further and will let you (all) know.

zhelder
10-02-06, 07:13 PM
I just got this baby hooked up, and even though I would say the setup is a little more difficult than average HTIB systems, it wasn't too bad. I'm really amazed at the size and the heft of the satellites. They are some really solid pieces. The system sounds really good, and there are a lot of tweaks to play around with. The only (extremely minor) issue that I have is that the receiver remote looks like it was designed in 1982. It works well though.

Just a couple of questions for the pros:

The Neo 6 setting is something new to me. Based on the info in the manual, I'm under the impression that this setting converts a stereo signal (like that on a typical CD) into a 6.1 surround signal. Am I correct or does this do something else?

I know that several others have mentioned that the receiver is a rebadged Sherwood. Does anyone know the maker of the DVD player? I'm assuming it's a Philips, because the on screen displays and functions are practically identical to those on my Philips MX3900D. Does anyone know for sure?

Thanks for any information! I'm really glad to have discovered this great unit!

SLSAdvocate
10-03-06, 07:35 AM
The Neo 6 setting is something new to me. Based on the info in the manual, I'm under the impression that this setting converts a stereo signal (like that on a typical CD) into a 6.1 surround signal. Am I correct or does this do something else?

I know that several others have mentioned that the receiver is a rebadged Sherwood. Does anyone know the maker of the DVD player?

I'm assuming it's a Philips, because the on screen displays and functions are practically identical to those on my Philips MX3900D. Does anyone know for sure?
Yes it matrixes two channel (some music is enhanced, some not so good) and yes it's a Phillips.

SLSAdvocate
10-10-06, 11:37 AM
For the first re-order of Q-Line, BB had the option of acquiring them from SLS on consignment. SLS had the option to decline to provide the systems on consignment. SLS wisely declined. Q-Line may continue to be available at BB. It will be available through any CE dealer who is a member of the Nationwide Buying Group, a collective of smaller, non-big box retailers.

FlyGTI
10-15-06, 09:17 AM
For the record, the Best Buy in West Des Moines is clearancing out their remaining Q-Line systems for $299. No indication of how many they had on the shelf when I was there.

OafyC
10-23-06, 02:03 AM
I just picked one up at my local Best Buy for $299. So far I like it a lot. I watched Lord of War on it, which had some nice sound in the beginning, but the action died so I'm waiting to test it on a movie with more action and sound, maybe Star Wars or Saving Private Ryan.

I have it set up in a pretty huge room, I don't know the size but it is a room over a 3 car garage so it is pretty big. The sub definitely lacks in this room. For $299 though I can easily pick up a better sub and still have gotten an awesome deal.

madcheeku
10-23-06, 11:27 AM
I have just got this system from Bestbuy for $299 and wanted to check how many digital inputs can the receiver take.

From the manual it looks like it can only have 2 digital inputs and 1 extra analog input in the front.

Is that correct? I need to have my cable receiver, dvd and the xbox 360 connected and so not sure how this would work.

I also have a onkyo HT-R520 receiver, so can I switch the two receivers? Would the onkyo receiver support this speaker set? From what I have read the receiver is a Sherwood RD-8601. Any ideas which is a better receiver between the HT-R520 and RD-8601?

Thanks

SLSAdvocate
10-23-06, 11:50 AM
I have just got this system from Bestbuy for $299 and wanted to check how many digital inputs can the receiver take.

From the manual it looks like it can only have 2 digital inputs and 1 extra analog input in the front.

Is that correct? I need to have my cable receiver, dvd and the xbox 360 connected and so not sure how this would work.

I also have a onkyo HT-R520 receiver, so can I switch the two receivers? Would the onkyo receiver support this speaker set? From what I have read the receiver is a Sherwood RD-8601. Any ideas which is a better receiver between the HT-R520 and RD-8601?

ThanksThere are four digital inputs, 2 optical, 2 co-ax. I am not familiar with your Onkyo but this unit is matched to the speakers. With four digital inputs, it should be sufficient. If you are using the DVD player that came with the system, it has both optical and co-ax outputs if you need optical for both the cable box and xBox.

Chitown1211
10-23-06, 11:29 PM
I was at a Best Buy in the Bay Area today and saw the SLS Audio QLine Gold (1200 W) in the clearance section marked 60% off. Bought it for $240 (instead of the listed $600). Cam home and did a google search to figure out if I made the right decision (hadn't heard of this brand before) and chanced upon this forum. Hope I have a good experience coz I don't want to return it!



Isnt the SLS a 650w system ? Are there two different variations?

OafyC
10-24-06, 12:03 AM
Just two different ratings. 650 is RMS the other is peak.

madcheeku
10-24-06, 01:33 AM
There are four digital inputs, 2 optical, 2 co-ax. I am not familiar with your Onkyo but this unit is matched to the speakers. With four digital inputs, it should be sufficient. If you are using the DVD player that came with the system, it has both optical and co-ax outputs if you need optical for both the cable box and xBox.

Thanks for the information. Didn't make sense having just 2 digital inputs, somehow I assumed that the co-ax and the optical were a set. Have it setup now and it beats my Onkyo system pretty much. Any idea what the DVD make is for coding it to a universal remote. I have the Logitech Harmony.

SLSAdvocate
10-24-06, 06:57 AM
Thanks for the information. Didn't make sense having just 2 digital inputs, somehow I assumed that the co-ax and the optical were a set. Have it setup now and it beats my Onkyo system pretty much. Any idea what the DVD make is for coding it to a universal remote. I have the Logitech Harmony.Logitech has the SLS brand and model number listed. The DVD player is a Phillips unit.

dbphelps
10-25-06, 10:58 AM
Hey guys, I am new here since I just picked up one of these setups at $299...

I must say it is one hell of a system for the money. And for reference the receiver and the DVD player are both Sherwood components:

RD-8601
Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES Receiver with Component Video Switching, Universal Video Upconversion, Automatic Speaker Set-Up and On-Screen Display
MSRP $399 (commonly found for ~$250 online)

VD-4500
Progressive Scan DVD/VCD/CDR/MP3 Player
MSRP $149 (commonly found for ~$110 online)

So, you can't even buy the DVD player and receiver seperate for what the entire system is selling for...

We had a TV go out on us, which gave us an opportunity to upgrade the family rooms TV to a 37" LCD HDTV (an Emerson EWL3706 with 1000:1 contract, 480i/480p/720p/1080i modes, 1366x768 res, 1 HDMI/2 component/2 s-video/2 composite inputs, ASTC/NTSC tuners and Dolby Digital built-in, all for $897 at Wal-Mart of all places, and which I may add is an OUTSTANDING unit for the money) and since this is the first TV I have bought in just about 10 years, I decided to go all out and do up a surround-sound setup for the family as well...

I was planning on going with a JVC RX-D412B unit with HDMI upconversion and then start the quest for reasonably priced and, usually, mediocre sounding speakers to match it when I strolled into best buy and saw this setup on sale for $299...

I should have bought it on the spot, but we were running late and had to get the kids from school, so I went back later in the evening to find the only setup they had left was the floor model (no-thanks, not from a retail store, at least for speakers anyways) and they only offered a $40 gift card as compensation for buying a floor model, so I had them look up which other Best Buy locations locally had some in stock... Turned out one about 15 minutes away listed 3 in stock, so I ran over there at 8:30pm, walked to the home theatre area, and low-and-behold they only had one in the box and the store display, so I got REAL lucky on this one...

Now, I was NOT expecting a box as big as it is. I mean the damn thing weighs over 100lbs, EASILY, and is strapped, if that gives you any indicator how well packaged it is. Now I had driven the Astro extended minivan to pick it up but had to drop the rear seats into bed-mode to get the box in the back...

When I got it home and the wife helped me carry it upstairs (she is 6'3" tall, about and inch taller than me, and a fiery redheaded amazonian goddess that is no weakling), I got to installing it... And I must say SLS Audio is one hell of a company that knows how to ship big and expensive product, as they not only strapped the outside box, but every individual box inside was strapped as well, and the packaging of the individual components was superb...

Installation took as long as most full blown theatre setups, and I took the opportunity to redo all the rest of the wiring for the entertainment center, which includes not only the SLS Audio QG5000 setup and Emerson 37" LCD HDTV, but also a SciAtl 8300HD DVR and a XBox in Media Center mode... I was up until 4am getting it all setup and done properly, and even though everyone else was sleeping I just had to do a little system auditioning...

I will have to say the sound quality of the speakers are amazing. And, to be honest, I am much more into high-end SQ car audio than home audio, but the sound and detail of this 'home theatre' setup is just phenomenol... I mean the clarity without harshness in the upper end is just smooth and refreshing, with amazing midrange blending and clarity...

As was said, the sub does an admirable job for the range it is tuned for, and for cinema it works top-notch, but for stereo audio use it could use some more authority in the upper bass region... I do have a KLH 10" self-powered sub that is just a beast that I may swap into place to see how well a more authoritative sub sounds with the setup...

To sum it up this is the deal of deals for home-theatre on a budget, as I put together the 37" LCD HDTV and this audio setup together for approx $1265 and that is including tax! I mean when I first started looking I could barely touch a nice 37" LCD for that price, let alone the full home A/V system I ended up with. And local pickup on everything was nice as well, as I am quite leary of ordering items as large as both of these setups online (shipping on something as large as a LCD TV or the audio system is a nightmare), plus if I have any issues with either I can get it dealt with locally...

Now, the only question is, is the $60 2 year in-home service extended warranty for the LCD HDTV worth it? (the TV comes with a 90-day parts/labor and 1 year parts only warranty from the manufacturer)

What about the $40 2 year extended warranty from Best Buy on the SLS Audio setup?

Since this stuff in the family room I fully expect day-in-day-out usage I am just wanting to make sure there is no hassles for the family, and since I haven't been into the home a/v market at all in almost 10 years, how well do the LCD TVs do longevity wise?

I mean my old A/V setup upstairs (all JVC equipment from 1996-1997, including receiver, VCR, DVD player, CD changer, tape deck and 36" TV, with Dolby Pro-Logic and S-VHS/S-Video being the highlights) has seen limited use since we started having kids back in 1998, with maybe two years of full daily use on the outset, a couple years of non-use, a year or so when it got constant use when the Xbox was first released, and recently with two or three views of something for an hour at a shot a week, with not a probelm to be had from anything in all this time...

Again, thanks for the great post on this outstanding audio system, as it has surely saved me from a long-termed mediocre audio hell...

OafyC
10-25-06, 02:09 PM
Hey guys, I am new here since I just picked up one of these setups at $299...

I must say it is one hell of a system for the money. And for reference the receiver and the DVD player are both Sherwood components:

RD-8601
Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES Receiver with Component Video Switching, Universal Video Upconversion, Automatic Speaker Set-Up and On-Screen Display
MSRP $399 (commonly found for ~$250 online)

VD-4500
Progressive Scan DVD/VCD/CDR/MP3 Player
MSRP $149 (commonly found for ~$110 online)

So, you can't even buy the DVD player and receiver seperate for what the entire system is selling for...

We had a TV go out on us, which gave us an opportunity to upgrade the family rooms TV to a 37" LCD HDTV (an Emerson EWL3706 with 1000:1 contract, 480i/480p/720p/1080i modes, 1366x768 res, 1 HDMI/2 component/2 s-video/2 composite inputs, ASTC/NTSC tuners and Dolby Digital built-in, all for $897 at Wal-Mart of all places, and which I may add is an OUTSTANDING unit for the money) and since this is the first TV I have bought in just about 10 years, I decided to go all out and do up a surround-sound setup for the family as well...

I was planning on going with a JVC RX-D412B unit with HDMI upconversion and then start the quest for reasonably priced and, usually, mediocre sounding speakers to match it when I strolled into best buy and saw this setup on sale for $299...

I should have bought it on the spot, but we were running late and had to get the kids from school, so I went back later in the evening to find the only setup they had left was the floor model (no-thanks, not from a retail store, at least for speakers anyways) and they only offered a $40 gift card as compensation for buying a floor model, so I had them look up which other Best Buy locations locally had some in stock... Turned out one about 15 minutes away listed 3 in stock, so I ran over there at 8:30pm, walked to the home theatre area, and low-and-behold they only had one in the box and the store display, so I got REAL lucky on this one...

Now, I was NOT expecting a box as big as it is. I mean the damn thing weighs over 100lbs, EASILY, and is strapped, if that gives you any indicator how well packaged it is. Now I had driven the Astro extended minivan to pick it up but had to drop the rear seats into bed-mode to get the box in the back...

When I got it home and the wife helped me carry it upstairs (she is 6'3" tall, about and inch taller than me, and a fiery redheaded amazonian goddess that is no weakling), I got to installing it... And I must say SLS Audio is one hell of a company that knows how to ship big and expensive product, as they not only strapped the outside box, but every individual box inside was strapped as well, and the packaging of the individual components was superb...

Installation took as long as most full blown theatre setups, and I took the opportunity to redo all the rest of the wiring for the entertainment center, which includes not only the SLS Audio QG5000 setup and Emerson 37" LCD HDTV, but also a SciAtl 8300HD DVR and a XBox in Media Center mode... I was up until 4am getting it all setup and done properly, and even though everyone else was sleeping I just had to do a little system auditioning...

I will have to say the sound quality of the speakers are amazing. And, to be honest, I am much more into high-end SQ car audio than home audio, but the sound and detail of this 'home theatre' setup is just phenomenol... I mean the clarity without harshness in the upper end is just smooth and refreshing, with amazing midrange blending and clarity...

As was said, the sub does an admirable job for the range it is tuned for, and for cinema it works top-notch, but for stereo audio use it could use some more authority in the upper bass region... I do have a KLH 10" self-powered sub that is just a beast that I may swap into place to see how well a more authoritative sub sounds with the setup...

To sum it up this is the deal of deals for home-theatre on a budget, as I put together the 37" LCD HDTV and this audio setup together for approx $1265 and that is including tax! I mean when I first started looking I could barely touch a nice 37" LCD for that price, let alone the full home A/V system I ended up with. And local pickup on everything was nice as well, as I am quite leary of ordering items as large as both of these setups online (shipping on something as large as a LCD TV or the audio system is a nightmare), plus if I have any issues with either I can get it dealt with locally...

Now, the only question is, is the $60 2 year in-home service extended warranty for the LCD HDTV worth it? (the TV comes with a 90-day parts/labor and 1 year parts only warranty from the manufacturer)

What about the $40 2 year extended warranty from Best Buy on the SLS Audio setup?

Since this stuff in the family room I fully expect day-in-day-out usage I am just wanting to make sure there is no hassles for the family, and since I haven't been into the home a/v market at all in almost 10 years, how well do the LCD TVs do longevity wise?

I mean my old A/V setup upstairs (all JVC equipment from 1996-1997, including receiver, VCR, DVD player, CD changer, tape deck and 36" TV, with Dolby Pro-Logic and S-VHS/S-Video being the highlights) has seen limited use since we started having kids back in 1998, with maybe two years of full daily use on the outset, a couple years of non-use, a year or so when it got constant use when the Xbox was first released, and recently with two or three views of something for an hour at a shot a week, with not a probelm to be had from anything in all this time...

Again, thanks for the great post on this outstanding audio system, as it has surely saved me from a long-termed mediocre audio hell...

It depends on how the Best Buy extended warranty works. I doubt they will continue having these in stock for that two years, so would they just give you something else for $300, or something for the original price?

Hakkamike
10-25-06, 03:09 PM
Well Guys, I went and got me one too today at the BB in Irving TX., they had two left. From what I have seen on this board 300.00 is a pretty good buy for this, we will see lol lol.

SLSAdvocate
10-25-06, 03:34 PM
Well Guys, I went and got me one too today at the BB in Irving TX., they had two left. From what I have seen on this board 300.00 is a pretty good buy for this, we will see lol lol.I guess my posting name suggests some bias here but this past weekend I too picked up my second SLS Q-Line Gold System. Mine was out of box and BB could not find the remotes, setup microphone or any accessories so I got it for a significant amount less than the closeout price and I used a few BB RZ coupons as well. So my out of pocket, if you subtract the gift card value, was... not much. It was nearly free.

This really is a shame that a unit with such a decent array of features that performs as well as it does (it's all about the speakers) is being dumped like this. There is nothing on the market at anywhere near this quality, anywhere this performance capability at anywhere near $300. BB has no idea what it has and just how good it is. Their ignorance, your gain.

Get 'em while you can kids.

sregis
10-25-06, 03:59 PM
This really is a shame that a unit with such a decent array of features that performs as well as it does (it's all about the speakers) is being dumped like this. There is nothing on the market at anywhere near this quality, anywhere this performance capability at anywhere near $300. BB has no idea what it has and just how good it is. Their ignorance, your gain.

Get 'em while you can kids.

it really is a shame, and i know it's been discussed, but on the several occasions i went into bb to listen to it, NO ONE had a clue- one didn't even know it was there; another store didn't have it plugged in; another the speakers weren't hooked up. utterly shameful.

Chitown1211
10-25-06, 04:43 PM
I went to BB at lunch today to see if I could get one. Only one they had was the display model. $299 plus- $80 gift card. Almost grabbed it , but didnt. Who knows what this thing has been through sitting on the slhelf for 6 months. Just couldnt do it. Eventhough $200 for this system is a complete steal. If they were continuing this line I would have pulled the trigger.

I know another BB where they had a couple of these still in the box. I m headed there after work .

DMP62
10-26-06, 10:13 AM
My local Best Buy is doing a store transfer for me on the Q-Line Gold and I will be picking it up in a few days, prior to seeing the system or reading the manual, I'm wondering about hookup. Currently I have a Panasonic TV with a Dish Network receiver, a Panasonic DVD recorder and an over the air antenna hooked to the various Panasonic inputs, I'd like to keep my TV hooked direct to the video sources and use it (TV) for switching, my question is, the TV has a digital optical out, can I simply hook this to a digital optical in on the SLS receiver and be good to go?

Will I be losing anything on the audio end since the Dish Network receiver is hooked to the TV via S-Video and the DVD is hooked to the TV with component and seperate twin audio leads?

Thanks.

Chitown1211
10-26-06, 01:59 PM
I went to BB at lunch today to see if I could get one. Only one they had was the display model. $299 plus- $80 gift card. Almost grabbed it , but didnt. Who knows what this thing has been through sitting on the slhelf for 6 months. Just couldnt do it. Eventhough $200 for this system is a complete steal. If they were continuing this line I would have pulled the trigger.

I know another BB where they had a couple of these still in the box. I m headed there after work .


Well I ended up passing on the system. Found one new one at a best buy , but didnt grab it. Im a little worried that the line is discontinued and the one remaing new one at BB didnt look too good. The box was ripped, dented, half cut open. Basically looked like it was dropped from the top tier of a warehouse rack then stuck in a car that was getting crushed at a junkyard. just wasnt confortable buying that . With my luck it would be broken, and I wouldnt be able to replace it with same system since its not around anymore. Im sure its a good system though.


Ended getting a Onkyo S590 and matching upconvert DVD player for $298 shipped from shoponkyo.com. Ill just upgrade those speakers at a later date.

SLSAdvocate
10-26-06, 02:50 PM
...I'd like to keep my TV hooked direct to the video sources and use it (TV) for switching, my question is, the TV has a digital optical out, can I simply hook this to a digital optical in on the SLS receiver and be good to go?

Will I be losing anything on the audio end since the Dish Network receiver is hooked to the TV via S-Video and the DVD is hooked to the TV with component and seperate twin audio leads?

Thanks.Some TV's digital optical out does not pass the full DD or DTS signal, just 2 channel. You can do this but you may want to verify you are getting the full signal. I believe it was an interpretation of the High Definition Content Protection (HDCP) rules by some manufacturers that only over the air (OTA) signals can be passed through in full 5.1 digital. So in your case, you will get the full signal from your OTA antenna channels at least. So you should plan on connecting that digital output on the TV either way. Try it and see for the other connections. If it won't pass the other sources, you can always connect the audio outputs of the devices to the receiver. You will receive true 5.1 sound (DD/DTS) only if you are connected to a digital input. You will be able to use other analog sourround modes such as Dolby Pro Logic II with the 2 channel analog connection (or a 2 channel output from your TV's digital connection for that matter). So in general, it's fine to connect the video outputs to the TV. You'll want to connect the audio to the receiver's digital inputs if you want the full sound experience. I'd argue that you are wasting the capability of your receiver if you don't. You should definitely connect the DVD player's digital out to the receiver and remove the two wire connection to the TV unless you want to watch DVDs without using the receiver. Again, seems like a waste to me...

The SLS receiver will upconvert your S-Video Dish output to component. In your case, it may be worth it to go through the receiver with that connection.

I assume your TV has more than one component input and/or an HDMI or DVI input. If the Dish box does not have component or HDMI/DVI output, you should probably upgrade it. Chances are they will do it at no charge with a minimal programming subscription commitment.

SLSAdvocate
10-26-06, 02:54 PM
Well I ended up passing on the system. Found one new one at a best buy , but didnt grab it. Im a little worried that the line is discontinued and the one remaing new one at BB didnt look too good. The box was ripped, dented, half cut open. Basically looked like it was dropped from the top tier of a warehouse rack then stuck in a car that was getting crushed at a junkyard. just wasnt confortable buying that . With my luck it would be broken, and I wouldnt be able to replace it with same system since its not around anymore. Im sure its a good system though.


Ended getting a Onkyo S590 and matching upconvert DVD player for $298 shipped from shoponkyo.com. Ill just upgrade those speakers at a later date.You probably could have negotiated at least an additional $100 discount because of the appearance of the box and be able to take it back with no questions asked if there was any damage or problem. The box is actually a box of boxes. Each component inside is individually packed and strapped. Chances are you would have had no problems.

Good luck with the Onkyo stuff. Nothing wrong with Onkyo.

DMP62
10-26-06, 04:22 PM
The SLS receiver will upconvert your S-Video Dish output to component. In your case, it may be worth it to go through the receiver with that connection.

I assume your TV has more than one component input and/or an HDMI or DVI input. If the Dish box does not have component or HDMI/DVI output, you should probably upgrade it. Chances are they will do it at no charge with a minimal programming subscription commitment.

Sounds like the best route is a little trial to see what works best, the one thing I'm hoping to avoid is having to switch the receiver and the TV separately when changing sources, as far as routing the video through the SLS receiver, I've been of the thought that the fewer pieces of equipment you run through the better off you are, I will certainly try the S-Video Dish upconvert to component however, I am currently running the second feed from the Dish receiver (composite) to the DVD Recorder and then out via component to the TV, that feed's Dish Network picture is slighty less sharp (but better color) than the Dish Receiver direct to the TV via S-Video, however.

The only Dish Network receivers that have component or HDMI out are their HD boxes, they came out with a new HD box last spring and I've heard of a few bugs and a few planned upgrades (plus hoping they increase the storage size of the HD DVR) so I decided to wait until next fall to upgrade that.

Skillz911
10-27-06, 12:20 PM
Ya, I will be picking one of these up for under $299 with the help of some coupons on the bestbuy website either tonite or tommorow. After the long search I found a couple stores that have these!

Hakkamike
10-27-06, 02:31 PM
Ya, I will be picking one of these up for under $299 with the help of some coupons on the bestbuy website either tonite or tommorow. After the long search I found a couple stores that have these!


Thats for the coupon tip, I purchased mine two days ago at 299.00 and with tax it came up to 324.74 . I went online and found the 10% off coupon for the clearance home auto systems and took it up to BB with my receipt and got 32.48 back in cash. Now I can go fill up the ole car with some gas :D

Skillz911
10-27-06, 02:34 PM
Thats for the coupon tip, I purchased mine two days ago at 299.00 and with tax it came up to 324.74 . I went online and found the 10% off coupon for the clearance home auto systems and took it up to BB with my receipt and got 32.48 back in cash. Now I can go fill up the ole car with some gas :D

How do you like them so far?

Hakkamike
10-27-06, 02:39 PM
How do you like them so far?

To be honest, I have not set the system up yet but I did listen to it in the store and it sounded great to me but what do I know lol. I am 48 years young and work as a mechanic on F16's and my hearing aint too good anymore anyway :)

cthip
10-28-06, 12:11 PM
picked up my system bnib yesterday for $269.99+tax using the coupon.

first impressions:

VERY detailed, clean, natural, and powerful sounding. not a hint of distortion at the loudest volumes i could tolerate (only 45-50 on the dial that goes to 80)! worth every penny and more. would easily have paid two or three times the price and still been satisfied.

of course--it's not the perfect system, and you shouldn't expect it to be for under $300. like all sub/sat systems, it is a little lacking in the midbass area due to physical limitations of the drivers creating a small gap between the lower extension of the satellites and the upper extension of the subwoofer. i haven't had time to adjust the frequency cutoff so this may improve. it's not even a huge deal, just doesn't sound quite as "round" or "full" as i like.

also having trouble getting the coaxial digital input working. probably just haven't selected the right option in the menu yet, so i currently have my dvd player connected via the red and white RCAs. call me crazy, but i feel that a HTiB sold as an integrated system should be somewhat plug and play. the directions should clearly state that the included digital coax is the preferred audio connection between the dvd player and receiver, and the menus should be preset from the factory to reflect that.

anyway--overall i am EXTREMELY pleased with this system. two tiny nit-picky little gripes prevent it from really approaching perfection IMHO. not bad for $269.99!

KeylessChuck
10-28-06, 03:45 PM
I just picked one up a BB for 299 plus 60 gift card. HOWEVER, I am having the same problem as above. I cannot get ANY of my digital inputs to work (optical or coax). Only able to use analog audio. I must be doing something wrong. Any help would be appreciated. TIA

hardballpete
10-28-06, 04:01 PM
Have you tried pushing the button on the receiver that says "digital inputs" and cycling thru the inputs until you hear sound?

Just a "wild suggestion"?!

KeylessChuck
10-28-06, 04:45 PM
Yes, I have done that many times. Believe it or not, I am fairly experienced with HT equipment. I'm seriously starting to think the receiver is defective. At the price I paid the speakers are worth it anyway but now I need to go get a new receiver.

BTW, thank you for your suggestion.

cthip
10-28-06, 08:58 PM
Have you tried pushing the button on the receiver that says "digital inputs" and cycling thru the inputs until you hear sound?

worked for me. i just can't believe how good this thing sounds. oh man.

Hakkamike
10-28-06, 11:57 PM
worked for me. i just can't believe how good this thing sounds. oh man.


I had a little trouble too but I am not too smart,,,,,,,,,,, got it going now and all I can say is it may not be the best 300.00 I spent but it is close to it(I think the woman in China was lol lol, married her). THE SPEAKERS ARE GREAT....

SLSAdvocate
10-29-06, 08:55 AM
...of course--it's not the perfect system, and you shouldn't expect it to be for under $300. like all sub/sat systems, it is a little lacking in the midbass area due to physical limitations of the drivers creating a small gap between the lower extension of the satellites and the upper extension of the subwoofer. i haven't had time to adjust the frequency cutoff so this may improve. it's not even a huge deal, just doesn't sound quite as "round" or "full" as i like.Setting the crossover to 100 HZ has resolved this for many folks. It is set in the speaker setup menu. Also, if you have not yet, use the included speaker setup mic (even before you change the crossover) and run the automatic level adjustment. This may correct it for you as well.

Nice to hear you're happy with it. It is a heckuva deal at this price.

SLSAdvocate
10-29-06, 09:00 AM
Yes, I have done that many times. Believe it or not, I am fairly experienced with HT equipment. I'm seriously starting to think the receiver is defective. At the price I paid the speakers are worth it anyway but now I need to go get a new receiver.

BTW, thank you for your suggestion.It is highly doubtful that it is a bad receiver. Assuming you are confident you have the correct connection (the orange co-ax wire or an optical cable), go into the DVD setup menu audio section and make sure everything is right there. If you have another device that outputs either co-ax or optical, try that also. Failure of a digital input would be very unusual out of the box.

Edit: ...and be sure to try another cable for the digital connection as well. Best case is if you have a cable and device that is known working elsewhere.

cthip
10-29-06, 09:49 AM
Setting the crossover to 100 HZ has resolved this for many folks. It is set in the speaker setup menu. Also, if you have not yet, use the included speaker setup mic (even before you change the crossover) and run the automatic level adjustment. This may correct it for you as well.

Nice to hear you're happy with it. It is a heckuva deal at this price.

yep i ran the auto speaker setup with the mic, and getting the digital input working has helped too.

tried to adjust the x-over, but it seemed to be "locked" at 80 Hz--probably because i had a movie playing at the time. will try to adjust it later.

for those having trouble with digital inputs--make sure you are using the correct (orange) cable, and plugged it into "coax 1" on the back of the receiver. press the receivers "digital input" button to cycle to "coax 1." also--in the dvd player setup menu (with no movie on, press "setup" button on smaller dvd player remote) and in the audio section, make sure you turn on the digital audio output.

then sit back, relax, and enjoy the awesomeness

oh yea and if the coupon hasn't already been posted on this forum (found it on fatwallet) it can be printed from here

edit: can't post the coupon link because i have less than 5 posts. if somebody wants to post it let me know and i'll pm it to you

KeylessChuck
10-29-06, 11:20 AM
It is highly doubtful that it is a bad receiver. Assuming you are confident you have the correct connection (the orange co-ax wire or an optical cable), go into the DVD setup menu audio section and make sure everything is right there. If you have another device that outputs either co-ax or optical, try that also. Failure of a digital input would be very unusual out of the box.

Edit: ...and be sure to try another cable for the digital connection as well. Best case is if you have a cable and device that is known working elsewhere.

This is very strange. I agree that it would be very unusual for just my digital inputs to be defective. The most likely cause is user error :) .

With that in mind, I have tried what you suggested. I connected my existing DVD player (that I already know works correctly) using component video cables to Video 1 and a digital optical cable to Opt 1. I then scroll thorough the Video Input Selector until I hit Video 1 (the DVD I am playing now appears onscreen). I then scroll through the Digital Inputs button sequentially (o1, o2, c1, etc.) expecting sound on o1 but I do not get any sound at all.

Just for the heck of it I've tried connecting the DVD audio to Opt 2 and, as you suggested, I then tried the supplied orange coax cable to Coax 1 and then tried Coax 2. But when I scroll through the Digital Inputs I cannot get any sound from ANY of the digital inputs. The only way I can get any sound at all is to use simple analog out of the DVD. Obviously, that's not acceptable.

Just some further clues which may be helpful. The word "Digital" blinks constantly in the front display window and the word "Direct" is always displayed right next to it (not blinking). Is this normal? The manual addresses neither.

Thanks again for your help.

Hakkamike
10-29-06, 11:58 AM
This is very strange. I agree that it would be very unusual for just my digital inputs to be defective. The most likely cause is user error :) .

With that in mind, I have tried what you suggested. I connected my existing DVD player (that I already know works correctly) using component video cables to Video 1 and a digital optical cable to Opt 1. I then scroll thorough the Video Input Selector until I hit Video 1 (the DVD I am playing now appears onscreen). I then scroll through the Digital Inputs button sequentially (o1, o2, c1, etc.) expecting sound on o1 but I do not get any sound at all.

Just for the heck of it I've tried connecting the DVD audio to Opt 2 and, as you suggested, I then tried the supplied orange coax cable to Coax 1 and then tried Coax 2. But when I scroll through the Digital Inputs I cannot get any sound from ANY of the digital inputs. The only way I can get any sound at all is to use simple analog out of the DVD. Obviously, that's not acceptable.

Just some further clues which may be helpful. The word "Digital" blinks constantly in the front display window and the word "Direct" is always displayed right next to it (not blinking). Is this normal? The manual addresses neither.

Thanks again for your help.

Did you go into your DVD player setting and set it up for a receiver connection, I had to do that one mine before I got the sound going..

KeylessChuck
10-29-06, 12:10 PM
Did you go into your DVD player setting and set it up for a receiver connection, I had to do that one mine before I got the sound going..

I'm not using the DVD player that came with the Q-Line system. It's my main DVD player and it has always output a digital optical signal so I know the problem is not with the player setup.

Thank you though.

Hakkamike
10-29-06, 12:14 PM
I'm not using the DVD player that came with the Q-Line system. It's my main DVD player and it has always output a digital optical signal so I know the problem is not with the player setup.

Thank you though.

I had to go to the on screen menu set up to tell the dvd player(Sony) that I was going through a receiver and what type of output connection I was using.

KeylessChuck
10-30-06, 05:59 PM
Ha! I'm not crazy! The receiver WAS defective. I went to BB today and bought another Q-Line system and the receiver in that one works perfectly. Now I have to return the defective one to SLS. Sent them an email yesterday but haven't heard anything from them yet.

Thanks for all of your help.

acey
10-31-06, 06:25 PM
I just bought the last SLS Gold system from my local Best Buy as an Open Box model and I'm having the EXACT same problem with the digital inputs as KeylessChuck. DIGITAL blinks and DIRECT is lit but no sound from any optical or coax input.

KeylessChuck: Which address did you use for your service request email? Please update this thread in regards to your replacement process - I'd be interested to hear what happens.

thai
11-01-06, 11:22 AM
I just picked up the SLS Q-line Gold from BB - 299 and got 12% off with that rewards coupon. I'm noticing a low hissing sound from the speakers while watching a DVD (from the DVD player included). The DVD player is connected via the coaxial connection - DVD is playing in Dobly Digital mode.

Haven't had much time to play with it yet... anyone run into something similar? Any ideas?

My setup:
HD DVR HMDI to HDTV
HD DVR optical to receiver
DVD coaxial to receiver

Thanks

Skillz911
11-01-06, 02:17 PM
For all of you that are experiencing hissing or not quite happy with the sound right out of the box I highly suggest running the speaker set up with the mic that came with the unit as I ran into some of those issues originally. I also switched the rear center to Yes even though I don't have one yet and its still sounds better that way giving me extra audio modes in which do not always require a 6th rear center speaker. I just purchased this system last weekend and all I can saw is WOW after tweaking it and reading the manual and playing with all its different settings. I can see why this system was originally $799 and still is on the SLS website for that price. Im so glad I picked this up for $269 what a steal!

The Sub woofer that is joined up with these awsome speakers sounds great! The bass is outstanding and has a very full sound. I don't even have the bass cranked up to the max and I can't believe how deep they sound.

deathbyburrito
11-02-06, 10:29 AM
I picked up an open box system at Best Buy the other night. The system didn't include the microphone for automated setup. Any recommendations for a cheap microphone that will work with for this? Thanks for any help.

InVinoVeritas
11-02-06, 12:45 PM
I also got it at 299 less 10% at Best Buy ... I think I got one of the few remaining in southwestern CT. Couldn't pass it up at that price.

In fact, I don't really have a stand to put it on, and I don't have a TV to connect to it, etc. etc. but you have to start somewhere, right?

This is going in my basement, where I used to have a really old TV that went out a couple years ago, and I figured, well, if I'm going to have to replace the TV, might as well make it a nice setup! Didn't get to the TV yet, but I do have an old amp/phono/CD player down there.

Now I have to work on running the wires, mounting the speakers, getting a stand, getting a TV. ....

I set it up on the floor last night just to make sure all was well. I checked out the digital connection to the DVD player and played a CD on it and it worked great. Didn't run through the speaker setup yet. I did notice that on playing an FM station, it seemed that sound was normal through the center and left front speakers, and quite soft in the right front and surrounds. Not too worried as I didn't really try to experiment or balance the speakers yet. However, all the speakers sounded fine when playing a CD. Not sure why it would be different.

Anyone use any speaker mounts to mount the speakers on the wall that they would recommend?

Also - I have an old turntable which I connected to the AUX inputs. Sound is very, very faint unless I turn it up really high. Do I need some sort of pre-amp to connect a turntable to the receiver?

KeylessChuck
11-02-06, 01:24 PM
I just bought the last SLS Gold system from my local Best Buy as an Open Box model and I'm having the EXACT same problem with the digital inputs as KeylessChuck. DIGITAL blinks and DIRECT is lit but no sound from any optical or coax input.

KeylessChuck: Which address did you use for your service request email? Please update this thread in regards to your replacement process - I'd be interested to hear what happens.

My apologies. I've been away from here for a few days. I sent the email to garth.showalter@slsaudio.com. I honestly wouldn't expect to hear much that is helpful from them however.

I wound up returning the defective system to BB and buying a new one. I didn't get into swapping receivers with them . I hope you didn't buy yours in Nashua NH. That's where mine was returned to. I made if very clear when I returned it that the digital inputs were not working so I don't think they'd just put it back on the shelf (but I could be wrong).

In my case the analog inputs worked fine. Here's a quick way to check if you receiver is defective. When it is turned on the digital optical OUT connector in the rear of the unit should be slightly illuminated. If it isn't, it's broken. I didn't realize this until I saw it lit on my new one.

Let me know if I can help you at all.

SLSAdvocate
11-02-06, 01:32 PM
Also - I have an old turntable which I connected to the AUX inputs. Sound is very, very faint unless I turn it up really high. Do I need some sort of pre-amp to connect a turntable to the receiver?Yes. Unless you have a phono specific input, this is true for all receivers.

FlyGTI
11-02-06, 03:56 PM
For those of you with spotty digital inputs, it might almost be better to chat with the good folks at Sherwood about this.

Jeff is a regular on this board, and Gene Chavez, one of his co-workers, has been EXTREMELY helpful to me.

maximus96
11-03-06, 01:41 AM
Hey guys i picked up a Q-line gold this past sunday and just got around to hooking it up today. i'm very happy with the sound, especially for the price. all seem to work and nothing broken. I want to see if somebody can tell me more about the included DVD player like the model number or spec because I want to sell it on ebay and buy an Oppo instead. Any help appreciated.

Thanks

deathbyburrito
11-03-06, 03:47 PM
I picked up an open box system at Best Buy the other night. The system didn't include the microphone for automated setup. Any recommendations for a cheap microphone that will work with for this? Thanks for any help.

Just an update. I sent an email to Gene (thanks FlyGTI) stating that I had an open box rd-8601 that didn't come with the setup microphone. He responded within an hour and said he would send one out to me today. Excellent service!

maximus96
11-03-06, 09:36 PM
couple more question, is it a good idea to upgrade the speaker wires that came with the system? whats the biggest size that i can use? the spring clips on the back of the speakers looks pretty small.

and does the DVD player come with it own remote?

jhsfosho
11-04-06, 01:34 AM
does the DVD player come with it own remote?
yes, it should come with its own remote. I believe the receiver remote should be preprogrammed to operate the DVD player as well.


I just purchased this system earlier today, and when I set it up and tested it, the subwoofer seemed to be popping and crackling. Im going to try to go back to BB tomorrow to see if I can exchange it for the floor model's subwoofer. I hope I can do this as I purchased the last system they had (besides the floor model). Hopefully they will be understanding also as the unit I purchased was open box.

My initial tests lead me to believe that I will be very happy with this as long as I can get the subwoofer straightened out. If BB wont replace the subwoofer (I think it is blown) can I send it in to SLS under the warranty? I got this for 299, and they through in a $30 gift card, so I thought that was a fairly good deal. If it doesnt work out Im going to be extremely dissappointed as this system suits my needs perfect (im in college and it matched my budget, plus it sounds like its worth 4x as much).

Blane

RevToTheRedline
11-04-06, 04:44 AM
Do you really believe that? Do you think he listens to one of these packaged $600 HT systems at his home?

Kal


Kal, people will believe anything.

muantler
11-04-06, 08:32 AM
Sorry.....newbie here. I cannot get the receiver's OSD to display. Has anyone else experienced this problem?

FlyGTI
11-04-06, 01:28 PM
Burrito, I'm glad that Gene was able to help. I know he was a big help to me when I called in. In fact, if anyone is using a Pronto or some other universal remote (other than the Harmony line) to control this and they need discrete codes, let me know. I've got a spreadsheet of 'em in my inbox and I'd be happy to post them up.

Maximus96, if you do a little searching through this thread, I believe that there's a reference to the maker of the DVD player. If memory serves, it's a Philips, but I can't remember the model number. I did something similar to what you're planning to do for the DVD player. I didn't go with an Oppo, but chose an upconverting Sony carousel (NC85H/B) at Best Buy (open box buys are terrific!). Overall, I'm very pleased with mine.

And as a comment to Rev's statement about Quincy Jones and whether or not he actually listens to one of these things...I'll bet he's got one. It's probably not his main theatre setup, but I'd be willing to bet that there's one set up in one of the places where he spends time. It might be his office, maybe his home office, perhaps a lounge in a studio, or maybe a guest bedroom, but I'll bet he's got one set up somewhere.

Granted, I don't have Quincy's ears, but I think that I have reasonably good taste in home audio, and I'm quite happy with it. For what it is, I think it's a bargain. Will it ever match up to the audio quality of the ultra high-end B&Ws? Probably not. I can guarantee that, as I've listened to several of those setups and have come away amazed. But for what it is, it's a VERY compelling choice. It's a shame that it apparently hasn't sold more units at the big-box retailers, because it fills an identified hole in the market. A competent HTiB setup is extremely difficult to find, and this one seems to do a good job of it.

Muantler, how's your setup connected? If we understand how you've got things situated, we'll be better able to troubleshoot. I made a mistake when connecting mine the first time around too, and wasn't able to get the OSD to function. My mistake was in not connecting the receiver video outputs into the TV, so my problem was sort of self-induced.

FlyGTI
11-04-06, 01:32 PM
[QUOTE=maximus96]couple more question, is it a good idea to upgrade the speaker wires that came with the system? whats the biggest size that i can use? the spring clips on the back of the speakers looks pretty small.[QUOTE]

Max, off the top of my head, I can't recall the lines that I used, but if you've got some spares handy, you might consider toying with it and reporting back as to any noticeable difference in sound quality. I'm pretty sure that I used the standard stuff that came with the unit, as I didn't have any spare stuff that had the length I was looking for.

For me, this theatre is eventually destined for the basement, and when that happens, I'll probably check out Bluejeans for something that'll work better with the length I need. I'll also probably reset it with banana clips as well.

FlyGTI
11-04-06, 01:43 PM
yes, it should come with its own remote. I believe the receiver remote should be preprogrammed to operate the DVD player as well.


I just purchased this system earlier today, and when I set it up and tested it, the subwoofer seemed to be popping and crackling. Im going to try to go back to BB tomorrow to see if I can exchange it for the floor model's subwoofer. I hope I can do this as I purchased the last system they had (besides the floor model). Hopefully they will be understanding also as the unit I purchased was open box.

My initial tests lead me to believe that I will be very happy with this as long as I can get the subwoofer straightened out. If BB wont replace the subwoofer (I think it is blown) can I send it in to SLS under the warranty? I got this for 299, and they through in a $30 gift card, so I thought that was a fairly good deal. If it doesnt work out Im going to be extremely dissappointed as this system suits my needs perfect (im in college and it matched my budget, plus it sounds like its worth 4x as much).

Blane

Blane, if you read this before you read the message I sent to you, DON'T SWAP OUT FOR THE FLOOR MODEL'S SUBWOOFER! I've personally witnessed that thing being tortured by high school kids. Go for another resolution. Call me! I've got some ideas.

jhsfosho
11-04-06, 08:05 PM
To those with bad optical inputs-
what have you done to resolve the issue? Has anyone contacted SLS to get a replacement receiver? I am having the same problem.

Skillz911
11-04-06, 08:34 PM
Has anyone played a DVD in DTS? For some reason when I try to play a dts format dvd and change it to AUTO DTS its just blinks with no sound. But AUTO Dolby digital ex works fine? Im using an optical cable and my sony dvd player is set to output DTS as well. Anyone have any ideas? SLSAdvocate?

KeylessChuck
11-05-06, 07:58 PM
To those with bad optical inputs-
what have you done to resolve the issue? Has anyone contacted SLS to get a replacement receiver? I am having the same problem.

In my case I brought the whole system back to BB and bought another one. Second one works fine.

BTW, SLS never returned my email or call so I wouldn't bother taking that route.

j5cents
11-05-06, 09:50 PM
Good thread- thanks. I called 5 BB's in New England looking for one of these systems....nada! I missed the boat I guess.

FlyGTI
11-06-06, 09:46 AM
j5. you should be able to have them search the inventory elsewhere and have them send it to the right store free of charge...might be worth the phone call?

acey
11-06-06, 02:54 PM
Just wanted to post an update on my digital input issue. I contacted Micah Collins at SLS who went back and forth with me on a few emails and found the fix. When I switched to the digital inputs it would blink DIGITAL and the DIRECT would be lit but I had no audio. Once I hit the AUTO button a few times to switch it to IN-AUTO everything worked perfectly! It was set to IN-DTS before (it was an open-box model - not sure what the factory defaults are). I was thrilled to get it all working perfectly.

Like one of the above posters I didn't get a setup mic with my open-box model either and Mr. Collins said he should be able to send me one this week. I am really impressed with their level of service. It's a shame these didn't sell as well as they should have - the sound quality is fantastic. I got a great deal, too - $240 before tax with the 20% off open box home audio coupon plus a $60 gift card. Best bang for the buck I've gotten in a long time.

Question for SLS owners: I'm getting some hiss on the center and fronts when the volume is low - is this normal? I believe it's happening in all modes but I noticed it the most while listening to FM stations. It's pretty minor but if there's any way to correct that I'd love to know how.

moyism
11-06-06, 10:45 PM
Pretty new to the forums but just wanted to say thanks to everyone in this thread. I recently purchased (and unfortunately have to get fixed) InFocus' IN72 PJ and was in the market for a low priced home theater system to "complete the set". To my surprise, finding this thread about the SLS Q-Line HTS fit my price range exactly.

Picked up one of the two remaining SLS Q-Line Gold HTS at my local BB today :)

Everything seems to be fine but unfortunately I won't be able to set this up until I get my PJ back. Just so I know what I'm getting into, what's the average time it may take me to set this baby up?

Anyway, I thought I would end up with some crappy low-end HTS considering how limited my price range was, but after reading everyone's opinion on this system it seems I may be in for a excellent treat. I'll get back to everyone once I set this up later this month. And thanks again for helping newbies like myself find good systems at relatively decent prices :)

Skillz911
11-07-06, 08:15 AM
Has anyone played a DVD in DTS? For some reason when I try to play a dts format dvd and change it to AUTO DTS its just blinks with no sound. But AUTO Dolby digital ex works fine? Im using an optical cable and my sony dvd player is set to output DTS as well. Anyone have any ideas? SLSAdvocate?

Ok I figured out what my issue was doh! When playing the dts dvds I never went into the dvds menu to change it to dts format cause I was unaware the dvds that support dts default to DD. Anyhow I got it going now.

Skillz911
11-07-06, 08:22 AM
Pretty new to the forums but just wanted to say thanks to everyone in this thread. I recently purchased (and unfortunately have to get fixed) InFocus' IN72 PJ and was in the market for a low priced home theater system to "complete the set". To my surprise, finding this thread about the SLS Q-Line HTS fit my price range exactly.

Picked up one of the two remaining SLS Q-Line Gold HTS at my local BB today :)

Everything seems to be fine but unfortunately I won't be able to set this up until I get my PJ back. Just so I know what I'm getting into, what's the average time it may take me to set this baby up?

Anyway, I thought I would end up with some crappy low-end HTS considering how limited my price range was, but after reading everyone's opinion on this system it seems I may be in for a excellent treat. I'll get back to everyone once I set this up later this month. And thanks again for helping newbies like myself find good systems at relatively decent prices :)

Ahh sorry to hear about your PJ, hopefully you get it up and going so you can enjoy this great system. The setup didn't take to long I guess running the speaker wire took the longest all depending on room setup etc. When I first setup everything it took about an 1hr and some change but I didn't get fool with all its settings and tweaks cause it was late and I turned in for the night and I like to take my time with this type of thing. Anyway the next day I ran the speaker setup with the included setup mic which I highly suggest using than I began testing out the different audio formats etc. Depending on how fast if you setup equipment it could take anywhere from 1-2hrs or maybe less.

FlyGTI
11-07-06, 09:35 AM
I took my time with it too, because I've got a pretty complicated space to work with when setting it up. If I'd had a different room layout, I think it would have gone much faster. When the setup moves downstairs to the basement, it'll go a lot quicker. I'm planning to run lines through the walls specifically for this setup when I finish the basement, so it'll be easier (and cleaner) this time around.

SLSAdvocate
11-07-06, 03:18 PM
couple more question, is it a good idea to upgrade the speaker wires that came with the system? whats the biggest size that i can use? the spring clips on the back of the speakers looks pretty small.

and does the DVD player come with it own remote?Yes the DVD has it's own remote.

I recommend replacing the speaker wire that came with it. Use a good, high strand count, oxygen free copper at least 16 gauge (14 is better) especially if your rear runs are longer. The same wire for all speakers is best. You may have to strip a little to get the 14 gauge into the speakers. I also recommend replacing the RCA cable for the sub to a better grade. Some people say they can't hear the difference. I believe I can. I also use a filtered power center which some people say is BS also. It also makes a difference IMO.

SLSAdvocate
11-07-06, 03:27 PM
...I'm getting some hiss on the center and fronts when the volume is low - is this normal? I believe it's happening in all modes but I noticed it the most while listening to FM stations. It's pretty minor but if there's any way to correct that I'd love to know how.Are you sure this isn't a signal strength issue? If it doesn't happen with any other selection (DVD, etc.) I'd try a better FM antenna.

The other possibility is that the receiver is in one of the processing modes that just doesn't sound very good on FM broadcasts. Try it in stereo only and see if it's any better.

SLSAdvocate
11-07-06, 03:50 PM
Since I was asked once again via PM recently and since this thread is getting long and we had this discussion near the beginning, I wanted to repeat that I do not work for SLS and never have. I have no relatives there etc. I own a small amount of SLS stock but if I drove the sale of 1,000 Q-Line systems, I doubt I'd benefit very much. I am an IT consultant and part time stock trader. My home theater store closed over ten years ago. I never heard of SLS until the fall of 2004 when I was fishing around for a consumer electronics stock to buy. FWIW, I have lost money on SLS stock. I should hate them for that I suppose...

I do this because I have a soft spot for little known companies that have "got something" but are not doing that well in the market. Especially when a BB doesn't represent the product well and it reflects unfairly on its quality. I personally own 2 Q-Line systems used in secondary rooms and an SLS HT-400 7.1 system which is one of their higher end systems from their Home Cinema line. I bought the HT-400 after I owned the first Q-Line a few months. I didn't "need" the second Q-Line system and arguably didn't need the first. At the price I got it for it was worth it to me.

I happen to believe that these are some of the best sounding speakers for the price in the market today. This is based on personal experience and nothing more. The HT-400 system is something else... You know, if you ever decide to upgrade... ;)

I hope I've been helpful to those of you needing information about the SLS products. That's all I'm trying to do; be helpful. I have very little to gain personally from my "advocacy..."

Hakkamike
11-10-06, 03:15 PM
I also got it at 299 less 10% at Best Buy ... I think I got one of the few remaining in southwestern CT. Couldn't pass it up at that price.

In fact, I don't really have a stand to put it on, and I don't have a TV to connect to it, etc. etc. but you have to start somewhere, right?

This is going in my basement, where I used to have a really old TV that went out a couple years ago, and I figured, well, if I'm going to have to replace the TV, might as well make it a nice setup! Didn't get to the TV yet, but I do have an old amp/phono/CD player down there.

Now I have to work on running the wires, mounting the speakers, getting a stand, getting a TV. ....

I set it up on the floor last night just to make sure all was well. I checked out the digital connection to the DVD player and played a CD on it and it worked great. Didn't run through the speaker setup yet. I did notice that on playing an FM station, it seemed that sound was normal through the center and left front speakers, and quite soft in the right front and surrounds. Not too worried as I didn't really try to experiment or balance the speakers yet. However, all the speakers sounded fine when playing a CD. Not sure why it would be different.

Anyone use any speaker mounts to mount the speakers on the wall that they would recommend?

Also - I have an old turntable which I connected to the AUX inputs. Sound is very, very faint unless I turn it up really high. Do I need some sort of pre-amp to connect a turntable to the receiver?

I am using the mounts that came with mine to mount them to the wall , I just drill ed 3 holes in the mount and bent the mount tabs in opposite directions a bit to get a good tight fit and now no problem at all :D http://files.tagworld.com/53cfa4da49d54b3fbac62f4de177bc83.jpeg http://files.tagworld.com/c1ce841dd8ce401a9763572e510143b9.jpeg

SLSAdvocate
11-10-06, 03:25 PM
I am using the mounts that came with mine to mount them to the wall , I just drill ed 3 holes in the mount and bent the mount tabs in opposite directions a bit to get a good tight fit and now no problem at all :D I used the common low cost mount that looks like this:
http://i14.tinypic.com/350thmh.jpg
You have to add a screw to the center of the mount point arm and use the little tapered center hole on the rear of the speakers. They are readily available on eBay for under $20 for a set of 5 and work fine.

maximus96
11-11-06, 01:58 AM
i noticed lately that whenever i unplug the power from the receiver, the component video out takes a long while before sending a signal to the tv. at first i thought i mis-wired some connection and while flipping thru for a while the manual the image suddenly appears on the tv. its happened a few times, and i only tried it with component. anybody else experience this before? is my receiver defective? everything else has been good so far.

SLSAdvocate
11-11-06, 10:33 AM
i noticed lately that whenever i unplug the power from the receiver, the component video out takes a long while before sending a signal to the tv. at first i thought i mis-wired some connection and while flipping thru for a while the manual the image suddenly appears on the tv. its happened a few times, and i only tried it with component. anybody else experience this before? is my receiver defective? everything else has been good so far.If I understand this correctly, you are unplugging the receiver and when you plug it back in and play a source, the video on the TV does not come up right away? Not sure I can explain your symptom here but I guess I'd ask why are you unplugging the receiver often enough that this is a problem?

You might try another TV to rule out a problem with the one you are connected to. Also, try the source connected directly to the TV and see if the delay is present then when the source is unplugged and plugged back in.

If no other problems are present with the receiver, it doesn't sound like a defect to me. Even if it is the receiver's behavior causing the delay, regularly plugging in and unplugging is probably not going to be considered normal use.

Hakkamike
11-11-06, 02:25 PM
I am using the mounts that came with mine to mount them to the wall , I just drill ed 3 holes in the mount and bent the mount tabs in opposite directions a bit to get a good tight fit and now no problem at all :D http://files.tagworld.com/53cfa4da49d54b3fbac62f4de177bc83.jpeg http://files.tagworld.com/c1ce841dd8ce401a9763572e510143b9.jpeg


Here is the speaker mounted

http://files.tagworld.com/aaf1556d3dd64d1a9cedb094f82465de.jpeg

clickart
11-12-06, 02:46 AM
I bought an open box and it did not come with the mic. Could I go and buy a mic and use it to do the auto setup? Which mic should I get? Could somebody be nice enough to let me borrow the mic and I will send it back when I'm done. Lastly, what is the universal code for the dvd player? I also didn't come with the dvd remote.

whoiswes
11-12-06, 09:28 AM
I know this is a long shot, but if anyone has any of these units left at their local BB and would consider helping me obtain one, I'd appreciate it very much. I live in KC, and there are none within 100 miles...sigh.

thanks in advance.

gi0rgi0
11-12-06, 03:23 PM
Is the receiver in the silver and gold the same receiver ?
And are there any other differences between the silver and gold
besides the gold coming with the dvd player ?

Also I noticed these were clearanced. Any idea if sls will come out with
an updated version. Maybe a platinum htib with hdmi inputs ?

T J M
11-12-06, 06:26 PM
I'm pretty sure they're not the same receiver, the Silver doesn't have as many connections as the Gold does AFAIK(s-vid. etc...). Plus, i've been told that the receiver is a re-branded Sherwood, SLS just makes the speakers- the Gold is at least.

SLSAdvocate
11-13-06, 06:55 AM
I bought an open box and it did not come with the mic. Could I go and buy a mic and use it to do the auto setup? Which mic should I get? Could somebody be nice enough to let me borrow the mic and I will send it back when I'm done. Lastly, what is the universal code for the dvd player? I also didn't come with the dvd remote.The receiver remote will operate the DVD player. I believe it is the default out of the box when you select DVD control on the receiver remote. This is also documented in the manual.

SLSAdvocate
11-13-06, 07:55 AM
I'm pretty sure they're not the same receiver, the Silver doesn't have as many connections as the Gold does AFAIK(s-vid. etc...). Plus, i've been told that the receiver is a re-branded Sherwood, SLS just makes the speakers- the Gold is at least.This is correct. Gold and Silver speakers are the same. Both receivers are re-branded Sherwoods. Silver has fewer connections.

jhsfosho
11-13-06, 05:33 PM
Here is the speaker mounted

http://files.tagworld.com/aaf1556d3dd64d1a9cedb094f82465de.jpeg


looks like a nice mount hakkamike. I might do that after I move out of the dorms here on campus.

SLSAdvocate
11-14-06, 09:03 AM
I know this is a long shot, but if anyone has any of these units left at their local BB and would consider helping me obtain one, I'd appreciate it very much. I live in KC, and there are none within 100 miles...sigh.

thanks in advance.Click here: At BB Website (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7758562&st=7758562&type=product&id=1141762944225)

DMP62
11-14-06, 11:31 AM
Got my Q-Line Gold last week and have some questions.

Most of my viewing is via a Dish 500 with a Dish Network DVR 625 receiver, first let me say I have posted a question about the Dish receiver on a Dish forum to make sure there isn't a problem with the Dish receiver. I've hooked the digital optical out of the Dish receiver to the SLS receiver and I can't seem to get Dolby Digital from the Dish receiver, the Dish receiver only seems to output PCM (what does PCM stand for anyway?).

So the problem is it sounds terrible, I've been through auto speaker setup a couple times, changed things manually for almost every setting and combination available. I finally got a poor but listenable setup with Dolby Prologic II music and adjusting the panoramic settings. I'm wondering if the system should perform this poor on a signal that isn't Dolby Digital or is there a problem with the SLS receiver? For the most part it sounds as if the speakers are still in the box and the rear surround speakers sound like an off tuned radio, they aren't turned off and the voice is faint and garbled, all in all it seems like only the stereo setting (which certainly isn't why I bought this system) is going to work for this audio signal, is this correct?

The good news is when I connect my TV via the digital optical out and tune a HD channel with Dolby Digital this thing is outstanding and performs like the system I thought I bought, the FM tuner sounds very good too, I just need some feedback on how the SLS should sound off of PCM audio.

SLSAdvocate
11-14-06, 11:50 AM
I've hooked the digital optical out of the Dish receiver to the SLS receiver and I can't seem to get Dolby Digital from the Dish receiver, the Dish receiver only seems to output PCM (what does PCM stand for anyway?).

I just need some feedback on how the SLS should sound off of PCM audio.Pulse Code Modulation. It's a standard method for digitizing analog audio.

You have to tell the Dish STB to output Dolby Digital. Should be in a setup menu somewhere probably under Audio Settings.

Different 2 channel sources, whether PCM or analog will sound better/worse in one of the various analog surround modes (ProLogic, PL-II, CS, etc.). It's just a fact of life that some sources sound better in some analog surround modes than others. It's why there are so many of them included with your receiver. Sometimes stereo is best. Not all 2 channel sounds get improved or enhanced by the various surround modes. If the soundtrack was originally developed as a ProLogic soundtrack it will sound "correct" in one of the ProLogic modes. Very little music was originally produced to be enhanced by multi-channel analog decoding. It happens that it enhances a lot of it though.

DMP62
11-14-06, 12:31 PM
Pulse Code Modulation. It's a standard method for digitizing analog audio.

You have to tell the Dish STB to output Dolby Digital. Should be in a setup menu somewhere probably under Audio Settings.

Different 2 channel sources, whether PCM or analog will sound better/worse in one of the various analog surround modes (ProLogic, PL-II, CS, etc.). It's just a fact of life that some sources sound better in some analog surround modes than others. It's why there are so many of them included with your receiver. Sometimes stereo is best. Not all 2 channel sounds get improved or enhanced by the various surround modes. If the soundtrack was originally developed as a ProLogic soundtrack it will sound "correct" in one of the ProLogic modes. Very little music was originally produced to be enhanced by multi-channel analog decoding. It happens that it enhances a lot of it though.

Thanks for your response.

I had found the Dolby in the Dish setup menu, the default was DD/PCM, switching to DD only neted no audio at all and since have come to find out that very little on Dish network is broadcast in DD unless you have a high def receiver.

I'll try hooking the audio from the Dish receiver up to the SLS via analog, it can't sound any worse and that will free the two digital optical inputs I need for my TV and DVD recorder, I get the feeling that the Dish HD upgrade isn't as far off as I was planning.

whoiswes
11-14-06, 01:23 PM
Click here: At BB Website (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7758562&st=7758562&type=product&id=1141762944225)

doesn't help me much - like i said, i already had the local store do a district lookup - nothing at any store within 100 miles - most stores were showing -1 or -2 on stock, which means (according to the BB employee, who seemed to know what he was doing) that the floor models were gone as well...

in any case, if anyone does have any available at their local store and wouldn't mind shipping to me (i will compensate you for your time and expense) please let me know.

SLSAdvocate
11-14-06, 02:12 PM
doesn't help me much - like i said, i already had the local store do a district lookup - nothing at any store within 100 miles - most stores were showing -1 or -2 on stock, which means (according to the BB employee, who seemed to know what he was doing) that the floor models were gone as well...

in any case, if anyone does have any available at their local store and wouldn't mind shipping to me (i will compensate you for your time and expense) please let me know.Can't you order it online from that link?

SLSAdvocate
11-14-06, 02:20 PM
Thanks for your response.

I had found the Dolby in the Dish setup menu, the default was DD/PCM, switching to DD only neted no audio at all and since have come to find out that very little on Dish network is broadcast in DD unless you have a high def receiver.

I'll try hooking the audio from the Dish receiver up to the SLS via analog, it can't sound any worse and that will free the two digital optical inputs I need for my TV and DVD recorder, I get the feeling that the Dish HD upgrade isn't as far off as I was planning.The PCM should sound better than the analog connection. Maybe there's something wrong with your STB. Maybe your missing a firmware or software update. I'd call Dish and make them replace your box or update your firmware/software. It's defective if they can't fix it.

BTW, all DD output should be two channel if the original soundtrack is not 5.1, 3.1, etc. Otherwise, why would someone ever select the DD only setting and get sound only when the original soundtrack was DD and none all other times? Makes no sense.

Edit: Make sure the optical cable you are using from the STB to the SLS works on another known good source. This could be the problem also. Dust/dirt in the optical connection outlet on the STB could do it too.

whoiswes
11-14-06, 06:06 PM
Can't you order it online from that link?

not that i can see - all i get is a "print" option - nothing about adding to cart. other items give me the add to cart icon...this one doesn't.

too bad, too, because i'd gladly pay the shipping and whatnot just to get one.

my neighbor works for BB - i'm going to see if he might be able to help, otherwise i'll call their corporate offices, see what i can dredge up.

i finally convince the wife to let me get another system and now i can't find it...i suppose i could settle for an onkyo (when they go on sale at shoponkyo.com) but being as this is supposedly a very nice system....

billnchristy
11-15-06, 02:30 PM
Another person looking for the sherwood DVD remote code. I got the reciever code to program but cant do jack with the DVD player.

Please help, this will be going back to best buy if I cannot get the remote to program!!

InVinoVeritas
11-15-06, 03:46 PM
Can't you order it online from that link?

No, I think because it's a closeout, it's in-store only.

FWIW, I found when calling different Best Buys that they have different 'local areas'. So, when I called one and they didn't have any, they did a search and gave me a bunch of locations that were further than I wanted to go. I then called another Best Buy, who I knew didn't have any, and asked them to do a search. They came up with a different list of stores, some of which had inventory. I asked them (just to be clever) if the first store I had called had any inventory. They were not able to see that store in their system. So it's like they have a set radius they can view.

I also asked if they could ship it from one store to another - also a 'no' since it's a closeout.

Last comment - when they told me that they had 2 in stock, when I got there all they had was the floor model and one still in the original box. So I think their inventory numbers also include any floor models.

InVinoVeritas
11-15-06, 03:49 PM
I used the common low cost mount that looks like this:

You have to add a screw to the center of the mount point arm and use the little tapered center hole on the rear of the speakers. They are readily available on eBay for under $20 for a set of 5 and work fine.


Thanks, SLSAdvocate. Sadly, those look exactly like the ones I ended up buying at Best Buy for something like about 4 times the amount you quoted!

SLSAdvocate
11-15-06, 03:55 PM
Another person looking for the sherwood DVD remote code. I got the reciever code to program but cant do jack with the DVD player.

Please help, this will be going back to best buy if I cannot get the remote to program!!What remote are you using? If it's a Harmony, you can select SLS as the brand. It's the only DVD listed on their website under SLS. If you have a code entry universal remote, try some of the Phillips DVD codes.

billnchristy
11-15-06, 05:42 PM
Its a crappy universal I bought at best buy on the advice of the a-holes who wouldnt mark it down.

It does not respond to Philips codes and there are no Sherwood DVD codes that I can find.

SLS advice is buy a remote from 1-800 remotes, sherwood remotes are 60-80 bucks...I guess its gonna go back.

Any advice? A non functioning DVD player is pretty useless, I can get by with no receiver remote, but when you cannot access menus on DVDs whats the point?

bitpoh
11-15-06, 07:12 PM
Won't it be cheaper to just replace the DVD player? :D

billnchristy
11-15-06, 07:49 PM
I have a toshiba laying around but I cant stand the fact that I cant use something I paid for.

zhelder
11-15-06, 08:26 PM
I got my second one of these units a couple of weeks ago. Paid $199 for it, like I did for my first unit, in East Hanover, NJ. I simply said, "Hey man, I got this for $199 in Paramus a few weeks ago. I got the receipt. Can you match the price?" The guy looked surprised, but asked his department head and they did it, and they never even looked at my previous receipt. I tried to use a coupon too, but it wouldn't go through with the price override. Props to the kid running the register for scanning the coupon though. My living room is rocking now.

For any NJ people on this board, I asked my local store (Paramus Rt. 17) to do a search. They said that East Hanover and Rockaway (probably the two least busy Northern NJ stores) may each have one left. The units in East Hanover were tucked away on a high shelf in the back corner of the store, and are brand new (There were 2 left after I bought my unit about two week ago). There's probably a good chance that one unit is still there. Good luck!

SLSAdvocate
11-16-06, 07:25 AM
Its a crappy universal I bought at best buy on the advice of the a-holes who wouldnt mark it down.

It does not respond to Philips codes and there are no Sherwood DVD codes that I can find.

SLS advice is buy a remote from 1-800 remotes, sherwood remotes are 60-80 bucks...I guess its gonna go back.

Any advice? A non functioning DVD player is pretty useless, I can get by with no receiver remote, but when you cannot access menus on DVDs whats the point?Have you tried calling SLS? Some of the other posters have mentioned email and phone contacts in the earlier pages of this thread. Seriously, I understand your frustration but you'll solve the problem soon enough. Don't throw out the baby with the bath... Well, you know what I mean.

Do you have the remote for the receiver? It will run the DVD player.

billnchristy
11-16-06, 05:59 PM
I have emailed SLS and they said they dont have any and suggested 1-800 remotes. I have no problem purchasing a new remote but not at the price I paid (considering some got complete units for the same or less).

I have no reciever or dvd remote. I got the speakers, DVD player, Reciever and wire...thats it.

SLSAdvocate
11-17-06, 07:28 AM
I have emailed SLS and they said they dont have any and suggested 1-800 remotes. I have no problem purchasing a new remote but not at the price I paid (considering some got complete units for the same or less).

I have no reciever or dvd remote. I got the speakers, DVD player, Reciever and wire...thats it.Sam's has the Harmony 676 for under $100. It has online support for the SLS Q-Line Gold both the receiver and DVD. If you are not familiar with the Harmony remote, it plugs into your PC via USB and you go to their website and download the device controls you need. It is quite simple and elegant. No more code entry hassles and they save your configuration file for later updating or tweaking. I assume you got a heck of a price if you got it with no accessories. I know I did as I bought my second system in the same state. Yes, you'll have to dig down a little more to solve your remote problem, but I assure you, you will not be sorry.

TOOEVL
11-17-06, 08:20 AM
Anyone have a source where a person could purchase this system?

Thanks for any info!

thecrazykevy
11-17-06, 02:50 PM
Anyone have a source where a person could purchase this system?

Thanks for any info!
Check at the Best Buy stores near you. If they don't have it then ask then to check other Best Buy stores in their computer to see if any have it in stock.

barrykai
11-18-06, 11:16 AM
Check at the Best Buy stores near you. If they don't have it then ask then to check other Best Buy stores in their computer to see if any have it in stock.

I talked to Micah at SLS and he stated that they will continue to distribute the system but no longer at big box stores like BB. BB didn't know how great this system was and neither did the customers. I purchased a floor model at BB without the DVD remote, power cord to the sub, mic, owners manual and one of the SLS emblems was missing from a speaker. However, at 230.00 it was a steal. Micah tells me that the system will sell for over 700.00 at smaller retailers in the future.

Barry

Hakkamike
11-18-06, 01:18 PM
Just a quick up-date on our SLS-system, the wife and our twin daughters(12) LOVE it. It is not too often that I have purchased something that everyone in the family likes :)

barrykai
11-18-06, 01:44 PM
My BB sales guy in Plano, TX (suburb of Dallas) said there were several new ones available at their stores in Brownsville, TX which is the southern most part of TX at the Mexico border.

ric1287
11-18-06, 07:27 PM
im sorry, but i cant seem to find the actual remote codes in this thread. I have the OFA Kameleon and another universal, will either of these work for the reciever? Thanks

qboy
11-20-06, 08:44 PM
I have not bought this system. I have questions about this system:
- Is there digital delay setting in the receiver?
- What is the material of the casing of those speakers?
- I am thinking to choose between Onkyo HT-S790 (7.1) and this sytem. Any suggestion which one is better?

Thanks in advance!

-----------------------------------------------
Never mind. I was not able to find this system in any of our local BB stores.

clickart
11-21-06, 10:47 PM
Should I connect my xbox 360 to the receiver by components or directly to my hdtv? Is the picture quailty going to be the same?

thecrazykevy
11-22-06, 12:32 AM
Should I connect my xbox 360 to the receiver by components or directly to my hdtv? Is the picture quailty going to be the same?
It should be since the receiver should have enough bandwith for HD component signals. If you run of component inputs on the tv then you should connect the xbox 360 and the other to receiver and connect the receiver to the tv.

thecrazykevy
11-22-06, 02:41 PM
Well, finally after looking around 4 Best Buys and finding nothing but a broken demo unit, I just ordered one from Amazon since I still had $145 in gift certificate left that I got for free. The total with shipping was $545 but with the gift certificate it ended up being $400 out of pocket. Not too bad since with tax, the Best Buy deal would of been $325 for me.

Now, do these speakers really sound that good? I'm still a tad skeptical since the receiver and dvd player alone would cost at least $300 together.

FlyGTI
11-22-06, 03:04 PM
Kevy, I think you'll enjoy them. The speakers are very nice.

SLSAdvocate
11-22-06, 03:41 PM
Well, finally after looking around 4 Best Buys and finding nothing but a broken demo unit, I just ordered one from Amazon since I still had $145 in gift certificate left that I got for free. The total with shipping was $545 but with the gift certificate it ended up being $400 out of pocket. Not too bad since with tax, the Best Buy deal would of been $325 for me.

Now, do these speakers really sound that good? I'm still a tad skeptical since the receiver and dvd player alone would cost at least $300 together.That's interesting. I didn't even know they were available on Amazon. Just looking now and Amazon indicates "currently unavailable."

Let us know how it goes. It would be great to be able to refer people to that source. There have been several posters who have not been able to find it at their local BB.

thecrazykevy
11-22-06, 03:42 PM
That's interesting. I didn't even know they were available on Amazon. Just looking now and Amazon indicates "currently unavailable."

Let us know how it goes. It would be great to be able to refer people to that source. There have been several posters who have not been able to find it at their local BB.
It wasn't from amazon directly but a seller selling on amazon. I guess I bought the only unit availible.

Does the entire box really weight 130 pounds? All the speakers, sub, receiver and dvd player just only add up to around 85 pounds. Where does the other 45 pounds come from?


One more question, does the receiver automatically switch digital audio inputs to which ever one receiving a signal without you having to select it manually? It seems the remote has controls for directly selecting the analog audio input but none for selecting or switching between the digital inputs.

SLSAdvocate
11-23-06, 06:10 AM
Does the entire box really weight 130 pounds? All the speakers, sub, receiver and dvd player just only add up to around 85 pounds. Where does the other 45 pounds come from?Well, some of it is the inner boxes and packing as each component is separately boxed within the main box. All are individually strapped as well. Some of it is the accessories: remotes, batteries, antennas, power cords, speaker wire etc. But the answer to your question is the speakers!! The SLS spec sheet is wrong. When you attach the solid metal stand each speaker weighs over 8lbs. Have you ever heard a good speaker that only weighed a few ounces? Better yet, have you ever heard a speaker that only weighed a few ounces sound good??

5 * 8 = 40, Sub is 31, 40 + 31 = 71, Receiver is 23, 71 + 23 = 94, DVD is 12, 94 + 12 = 106, + accessories, wire and packing easily 130lbs...

One more question, does the receiver automatically switch digital audio inputs to which ever one receiving a signal without you having to select it manually? It seems the remote has controls for directly selecting the analog audio input but none for selecting or switching between the digital inputs.Not to my knowledge. You have to select the input from the remote when you want to use a particular source, regardless of digital or analog. You assign the digital inputs to Video 1, Video 2, etc. and select accordingly. Is that a deal killer for ya'?? :rolleyes:

Happy Thanksgiving all. -SLSA

SLSAdvocate
11-23-06, 06:18 AM
BTW, I noticed that SLS has the manual in PDF (4.7 mb) on their website now. This will help a lot of you with many of the questions you might have.

SLS Q-Line Gold Manual (http://www.slsloudspeakers.com/media/manuals/QG-500AVR-last.pdf)

Hoss27
11-25-06, 01:09 PM
Now, do these speakers really sound that good? I'm still a tad skeptical since the receiver and dvd player alone would cost at least $300 together.

Look at it as you are paying for the speakers and getting a sub, dvd player, and receiver to be able to put a signal through them until you can upgrade.

afrogt
11-25-06, 03:03 PM
This system was originally $599 or $799. Best Buy didn't know how to market it. So its a steal at $299.

jplayland
11-25-06, 06:17 PM
Only problem is that there is only 2 or 3 BB stores around the country that have any left, and you can't have a product transfered from an area that is serviced by a different warehouse.

I live in Minnesota and our warehouse services Minnesota and half of Wisconson. No stores in this area have any left.

One store in Indy has a bunch, but otherwise there are only a few stores with 1 or 2 in the country. I am trying to find someone I know from Indy who can ship one up here.

thecrazykevy
11-25-06, 11:40 PM
On the bright side, it appears SLS will start selling thier q-line products in smaller retailers in the US soon: http://www.slsloudspeakers.com/content/view/211/89/ Guess both sales at big block stores like Walmart and Blockbuster weren't that great. The bad news is that the price tag would be a lot higher considering they sell the q-line silver on their website for $800.

Lieutenant Dan
11-26-06, 12:57 AM
Only problem is that there is only 2 or 3 BB stores around the country that have any left, and you can't have a product transfered from an area that is serviced by a different warehouse.

I live in Minnesota and our warehouse services Minnesota and half of Wisconson. No stores in this area have any left.

One store in Indy has a bunch, but otherwise there are only a few stores with 1 or 2 in the country. I am trying to find someone I know from Indy who can ship one up here.

How do you know there's only 2 or 3 stores that still have them? Do you know which ones do?

thai
11-26-06, 02:18 AM
I've been looking for some speaker stands for my SLS system.. I can't seem to find any that fit. Any recommendations/ideas?

Thanks

SLSAdvocate
11-26-06, 06:14 AM
I've been looking for some speaker stands for my SLS system.. I can't seem to find any that fit. Any recommendations/ideas? ThanksAssuming you are talking about floorstanding, the T-70 model in this link will work. The speakers simply are set on them. For a sturdier effect, you can attach the speaker's metal base to the stand by drilling mounting holes in them. I use these in both of my setups.

Premier Audio T Series Link (http://www.premier-av-furniture.com/SpeakerStands/T_Series/T_SeriesHome.html)

thai
11-26-06, 12:04 PM
Assuming you are talking about floorstanding, the T-70 model in this link will work. The speakers simply are set on them. For a sturdier effect, you can attach the speaker's metal base to the stand by drilling mounting holes in them. I use these in both of my setups.



Thanks SLSAdvocate - I saw your earlier post - the wife wants a different "look" for the stands. And yes, I am looking for floorstanding ones.
Any others?

Thanks!

arrdev
11-26-06, 11:10 PM
I used the common low cost mount that looks like this:

You have to add a screw to the center of the mount point arm and use the little tapered center hole on the rear of the speakers. They are readily available on eBay for under $20 for a set of 5 and work fine.


Hey, I've been following this thread for a while and was able to get this system from a best buy in long island city a few weeks ago (one of the only ones that were left around NYC). It's great so far, and I really am enjoying it. I live in an apartment in NYC and am looking to mount my rear speakers to the wall. Can you describe exactly what I would need to do (I read a couple of the posts about it but am a bit confused- I haven't wall-mounted anything before). What tools are required, and how much of a factor is the weight of the speakers? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to assume I know almost nothing about how this is done :) And thanks for all the reccs for this sytem- I'm definitely very happy with it and for a great price too!

SLSAdvocate
11-27-06, 04:53 AM
Thanks SLSAdvocate - I saw your earlier post - the wife wants a different "look" for the stands. And yes, I am looking for floorstanding ones.
Any others?

Thanks!Because of the small, single screw mounting hole on the rear of the speakers you can use almost any stand with minor adaptation. The LS series in the link I provided earlier would also work. Sounds like you want to shop for asthetics first so I'd suggest looking around for something that fits that requirement and then consider what if any adaptation is necessary to to mount the SLS speakers.

SLSAdvocate
11-27-06, 05:16 AM
Hey, I've been following this thread for a while and was able to get this system from a best buy in long island city a few weeks ago (one of the only ones that were left around NYC). It's great so far, and I really am enjoying it. I live in an apartment in NYC and am looking to mount my rear speakers to the wall. Can you describe exactly what I would need to do (I read a couple of the posts about it but am a bit confused- I haven't wall-mounted anything before). What tools are required, and how much of a factor is the weight of the speakers? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to assume I know almost nothing about how this is done :) And thanks for all the reccs for this sytem- I'm definitely very happy with it and for a great price too!In an earlier post I showed a common and standard wall mount bracket which is available under $20 for a set of 5 on eBay. It will be pretty hard to cover all the concerns about wall mounting in text but it's no different from mounting shelf brackets or a mirror or other fairly weighty item. You might be able to get by without them but I'd recommend using a wall molly or plug (assuming you are mounting to dry wall) just to be sure. If your dry wall is firm or you have a solid wood surface, then you won't need this.

You have two key considerations when wall mounting rear speakers. Location relative to seating position and how asthetic you want or need to be about the wire that must run to them. If you don't care if the wire is exposed and just running down the wall then you don't have much to worry about. If you want it hidden, then you have to either fish it behind the drywall or use a wire channel type strip that mounts on the face of the wall.

Since the SLS speakers are directional, meaning they send the sound where they are aimed, you'll want to consider the primary seating position and try to balance the location of the two speakers equidistant from that seating position. If you can't, it's not the end of the world, but it's better if they are.

As for tools, you'll need a screwdriver or small drill with a screwdriver bit and in most cases, you'll want to drill pilot holes for the screws. Once you select your location, use the bracket itself as a template and mark the screw hole locations with a pencil making sure the bracket is square and/or level. Drill the pilot hole or plug hole with an appropriate sized bit at the locations you have pencilled. Mount the bracket base into these holes and the speaker into the other part of the bracket and insert it onto the wall piece. You have to have the wire connected to the speaker before you attach it to the wall piece.

Hope this helps and good luck.

P.S. Maybe you should get a friend who has done things like this before to help you or maybe your building super will do it...

m4doyle
11-27-06, 03:34 PM
so i just got one of these systems as an openbox model from bestbuy for my birthday. very nice system but i cant seem to get my back surround speakers to work. all i have hooked up is my xbox360 via the digital optical cord...what am i doing wrong? is there a certain setting i need to put it on to make them all work? i have it auto detecting as of now.

SLSAdvocate
11-27-06, 03:48 PM
so i just got one of these systems as an openbox model from bestbuy for my birthday. very nice system but i cant seem to get my back surround speakers to work. all i have hooked up is my xbox360 via the digital optical cord...what am i doing wrong? is there a certain setting i need to put it on to make them all work? i have it auto detecting as of now.At least 2 possibilities here. It's possible you need to tell the xBox that have a 5.1 system and/or to output via optical or it's possible that your game doesn't take advantage of it.

I would suggest you activate the manual test tone in the speaker setup menu and determine if all channels are responding. It would be odd if your rear channels didn't work.

You might also need to assign the optical input. Use the button on the front to cycle through the 4 digital inputs. Oh, and be sure you don't have the optical cable plugged into the receiver in the optical out jack. Be sure you're using one of the optical in jacks.

The optical cable could be bad too. I've had that happen before. Be sure to try a known working optical cable.

tzzoooma
11-27-06, 07:25 PM
I got my SLS gold going today, apparently the last one in the area.
I had a $300 LG HTIB that I took back. Compared to the SLS, it
sounded like a toy. The SLS is all I could want and more for $265.
Super crisp highs.

Most happy camper here, thanks for all the info.

clickart
11-27-06, 07:26 PM
I don't think the reciever automatically detects the xbox 360 as doby digital. I have to press the audio button on the reciever to "doby digital" to get the back speakers to work.

p3Orion
11-28-06, 03:03 AM
Just found out about the SLS Audio Q-Line.

Looks like it will be very difficult to locate one from BB.

Since I would not be seated in a central position if I mounted the speakers in four corners of my room, is there a +/- feature that allows output of the speakers to be adjusted?

For example:


Left Front Speaker ----- Center Speaker --------------------------------- Right Front Speaker (output + 5)


----------------------------- Me ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Left Rear Speaker ------------------------------------------------------- Right Rear Speaker (output +5)

SLSAdvocate
11-28-06, 06:18 AM
Just found out about the SLS Audio Q-Line.

Looks like it will be very difficult to locate one from BB.

Since I would not be seated in a central position if I mounted the speakers in four corners of my room, is there a +/- feature that allows output of the speakers to be adjusted?

For example:


Left Front Speaker ----- Center Speaker --------------------------------- Right Front Speaker (output + 5)


----------------------------- Me ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Left Rear Speaker ------------------------------------------------------- Right Rear Speaker (output +5)Yes. Both speaker relative volume levels and actual distance adjustment for time correction to balance sound arrival at the seating position. Be sure to "aim" the speakers at the primary seating position. They are somewhat directional.