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dheiskel 07-11-06, 01:34 AM The RS232 codes which have been documented by toshiba are exactly the same as the IR codes. I have software which fully decodes IR and the toshiba uses a variant of Nec format. The one byte which changes between each IR code on the remote is identical to the RS232 codes. Some of the other discrete codes such as hdmi which is a RS232 documented code also work via IR.
However there is a bug in the toshiba. They documented discrete power on, off as 92 hex and 93 hex. The discrete on works the discrete off doesn't work from either RS232 or IR.
If toshiba actually implements the power off for RS232 it will probably be available for IR also.
For those who want discrete off, it should be reported to toshiba as a bug.
Also for anyone who is interested this was tested on a RCA which is at firmware version 1.4.
If someone could check that my observation of the power off command 0x93 does not work on a HD-XA1.
that's good news in that discrete power off may be solved soon. thanks!
TrevorS 07-11-06, 02:28 AM The RS232 codes which have been documented by toshiba are exactly the same as the IR codes. I have software which fully decodes IR and the toshiba uses a variant of Nec format. The one byte which changes between each IR code on the remote is identical to the RS232 codes. Some of the other discrete codes such as hdmi which is a RS232 documented code also work via IR.
However there is a bug in the toshiba. They documented discrete power on, off as 92 hex and 93 hex. The discrete on works the discrete off doesn't work from either RS232 or IR.
If toshiba actually implements the power off for RS232 it will probably be available for IR also.
For those who want discrete off, it should be reported to toshiba as a bug.
Also for anyone who is interested this was tested on a RCA which is at firmware version 1.4.
If someone could check that my observation of the power off command 0x93 does not work on a HD-XA1.
Also nice that you have provided confirmation the RCA RS-232 port does work properly (outside of the common defect). That should please a number of people on this forum.
Thanks -- Trevor
The RS232 codes which have been documented by toshiba are exactly the same as the IR codes. I have software which fully decodes IR and the toshiba uses a variant of Nec format. The one byte which changes between each IR code on the remote is identical to the RS232 codes. Some of the other discrete codes such as hdmi which is a RS232 documented code also work via IR.
However there is a bug in the toshiba. They documented discrete power on, off as 92 hex and 93 hex. The discrete on works the discrete off doesn't work from either RS232 or IR.
If toshiba actually implements the power off for RS232 it will probably be available for IR also.
For those who want discrete off, it should be reported to toshiba as a bug.
Also for anyone who is interested this was tested on a RCA which is at firmware version 1.4.
If someone could check that my observation of the power off command 0x93 does not work on a HD-XA1.
Nice work confirming the RS232 port works on the RCA. I also noticed the serial codes match the IR codes when I looked at the JP1 decodes of the IR.
Would you mind if I added your observations to the existing FAQ entry on remotes?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7498601&&#post7498601
BTW the discrete for "HDMI" is actually the same IR function code as "video output" on the HD-A1 so I don't think it is a new function even though the labelling would make you think so.
dheiskel 07-11-06, 03:56 PM you are right about the hdmi, i discovered it is the same also. All the codes line up exactly and the power on 0x92 works on RS232 and IR.
I don't mind posting, in fact I would like to see the discrete off in one list or another as a requested toshiba fix, since they documented it for RS232.
Well I updated and made a humble plea in the FAQ entry:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7498601&&#post7498601
I suppose as more people integrate the unit into their home theatre there will be more demand for discrete off to work.
The only IR function I found which shuts off the unit is the factory reset IR, but it has the unfortunate effect of resetting all your settings also.
Right now I have my remote keeping track internally of the power on state and appropriately using (or not using) power toggle for discrete off.
enchntr 07-12-06, 11:42 AM FYI, I am trying to get these codes into a PCF file for the NG prontos. Should be done shortly, but won't be tested until I can get home. :)
Special thanks to remote central for pointing me in the right direction
enchntr 07-12-06, 01:47 PM All,
Here's the PCF file I created with the codes for the HDA1 and HDXA1 based on the RS232 codes. There are two different sections in the PCF...first is a hidden page called codes which you can just merge into your current PCF...all functions are labeled The other is 11 pages of all codes (used and unused) with all the used with proper labels.
I have not tested these yet in my Pronto, however, they should work properly as they were created with makehex.
LMK, and HTH.
Ed
HT Pusher 11-27-06, 02:00 PM How about a CCF for my TS2000?
enchntr 11-27-06, 03:28 PM How's http://www.poweroftheforce.com/temp/HDA1XA1.zip for you HT Pusher?
;)
HT Pusher 11-28-06, 12:39 PM Thanks enchntr!
Did you create this or somehow convert from PCF to CCF? My understanding is that there's no way other than re-learning to go from PCF to CCF, but there's alot I don't know.
Does anyone know which hex code in the list of all codes is supposed to be the Power Off code, so that when it actually works, we can have it already programmed?
enchntr 11-28-06, 03:14 PM No, I created the CCF first, using MakeHex to dump the hex and CCF Panels to create the CCF out of the hex.
The CCF should have the Power off discrete documented. If not, shoot me a PM so I can update.
Thanks,
Ed
fflanker 01-12-07, 09:50 PM The RS232 codes which have been documented by toshiba are exactly the same as the IR codes. I have software which fully decodes IR and the toshiba uses a variant of Nec format. The one byte which changes between each IR code on the remote is identical to the RS232 codes. Some of the other discrete codes such as hdmi which is a RS232 documented code also work via IR.
However there is a bug in the toshiba. They documented discrete power on, off as 92 hex and 93 hex. The discrete on works the discrete off doesn't work from either RS232 or IR.
If toshiba actually implements the power off for RS232 it will probably be available for IR also.
For those who want discrete off, it should be reported to toshiba as a bug.
Also for anyone who is interested this was tested on a RCA which is at firmware version 1.4.
If someone could check that my observation of the power off command 0x93 does not work on a HD-XA1.
Anyone uses a novii remote and knows how to type this? I tried to put these four byte hex into novii directly but it doesn't work?
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