New Syntax Olevia TV models

[Darkmatter]

Hey darkmatter ... I have the luxury of doing side by side comparisons between cable box HD and over the air (via htpc). The wife and kids were out of town a few weeks ago and I spent several hours on Sunday afternoon doing this comparison while watching NASCAR on NBC and football on CBS and ABC. The bottom line is that the differences were very minor. The over the air picture was just a tad cleaner (as expected) but I was pleased with the cable box image. I couldn't notice any difference at greater than 6 feet.

A much better discussion would be the comparison between 720p and 1080i. I've noticed that 720p on Fox and ABC is MUCH better at fast motion than 1080i on NBC and CBS but 1080i looks a little sharper on static images (think halftime shows). Right now I'd give ABC college football my best rating followed closely by Fox. I noticed a lot of macroblocking during the HD Madona concert on NBC the other night. Is it macroblocking or mpeg2 artifacting? I don't know for sure but it was very distracting.

Yes I've noticed the same issues with NBC/CBS HD. They both look pretty awful imo except the more static scenes as you've noted. Fox looks much better and doesn't devolve into a sea of tiny blocks nearly as often.

[scoobydoo]

Just wanted to post in this HUGE thread since I just purchased a 337H from Fry's yesterday and I am anxiously awaiting delivery.

I have been a member for a long time, but haven't posted much since I have been living with my 40" Mitsubishi tube and SDTV until now.

I am new to the whole HDTV thing and I am looking forward to joining the site again:)

[Primestar31]

As previously posted, the Dish remote codes in the manual for the 537H don't work. After much trial and error, I've found that code 3030 works to control my Dish Network 301 receiver and also the basic satellite functions on my 508 DishPVR. I can't get the Olevia universal remote to control the PVR functions though.


Code 3050, which shows as a "Dish Network Sat DVR" in the code lists, works with my Dish 6000HD receiver, using "STB" button.

[KMacBlue]

I didnt want to mess with my settings too much at first, but i have found that using an HDMI cable has helped substantially in reducing the pixelation and blockiness around moving characters. I had a comcast technician visit my house today, she was VERY knowledgeable and said that comcast sends a better signal via 1080i than via 720p. She mentioned that this had to do with the signal compression and that 720p was more compressed than 1080i over comcast (i dont see why that would be the case, but these are her words, not mine). Also, turning the sharpness on the TV down to 35% really helps reduce pixelation as well, the higher the sharpness setting the more i notice the pixelation (HDMI cables). I think in the future that i will be using 720p for ESPN, FOX and ABC when i sit down to watch an entire game (or record a game), however i will be using 1080i otherwise.

Conclusion: the problem here must be more comcast related than Olevia 337H related. As 720p on my ps3 comes in absolutely beautifully (HDMI). 720p resolution on ps3 for games or blu-ray looks better than 1080i through comcast. The 3 series models do not have a built in tuner, so i cant compare OTA signals.

P.S. Ever since i got this TV i have noticed that NBA League Pass has VERY small bars on the top and bottom of the screen, not the sides. And these are not the standard letterbox bars, they are very small, but just noticeable enough to be annoying and not full screen. Anyone else have league pass and notice this?

Also, why does increasing noise reduction tend to mess with the PQ, i would think it would increase the PQ? At the previous poster's suggestion, i have turned it off.

[mike208]

Not sure if this is the right thread for this. But i bought an Olevia 337h on black friday. And I have since noticed a low hum or whine from the speakers when an audio source is connected to the right and left composites. The hum is there even when the sound is muted(or at least when my tivo was paused, not actually muted). It raises and lowers with the volume, if you turn the volume up the whine gets louder, if you turn it down, the whine gets softer.

It is present for both my tivo and cable box, they are both connected by svideo and composite audio using a switch box. I bypassed the switch and plugged them directly to the TV and had the same problem, so I am pretty sure it is a problem with the TV. Is this a known issue, any way to fix it? Should I exchange the TV for another one or will it have the same problem?

Thanks

[Polypro]

Just wanted to post in this HUGE thread since I just purchased a 337H from Fry's yesterday and I am anxiously awaiting delivery.

I have been a member for a long time, but haven't posted much since I have been living with my 40" Mitsubishi tube and SDTV until now.

I am new to the whole HDTV thing and I am looking forward to joining the site again:)


I have a Mitz 40" Tube too...remember what the y cost back then:) Welcome back.

P

[bd8653]

Not sure if this is the right thread for this. But i bought an Olevia 337h on black friday. And I have since noticed a low hum or whine from the speakers when an audio source is connected to the right and left composites. The hum is there even when the sound is muted(or at least when my tivo was paused, not actually muted). It raises and lowers with the volume, if you turn the volume up the whine gets louder, if you turn it down, the whine gets softer.

It is present for both my tivo and cable box, they are both connected by svideo and composite audio using a switch box. I bypassed the switch and plugged them directly to the TV and had the same problem, so I am pretty sure it is a problem with the TV. Is this a known issue, any way to fix it? Should I exchange the TV for another one or will it have the same problem?

Thanks

Try turning down the bass in the tv's audio settings. Otherwise (most likely) something needs to be grounded better.

[bd8653]

Does anyone play Wii (or any other consules) on these Olevia televisions? What are your impressions? Is there (noticeable) lag?
Which model Olevia do you have?

[Bikedorian]

Not sure if this is the right thread for this. But i bought an Olevia 337h on black friday. And I have since noticed a low hum or whine from the speakers when an audio source is connected to the right and left composites. The hum is there even when the sound is muted(or at least when my tivo was paused, not actually muted). It raises and lowers with the volume, if you turn the volume up the whine gets louder, if you turn it down, the whine gets softer.
It is present for both my tivo and cable box, they are both connected by svideo and composite audio using a switch box. I bypassed the switch and plugged them directly to the TV and had the same problem, so I am pretty sure it is a problem with the TV. Is this a known issue, any way to fix it? Should I exchange the TV for another one or will it have the same problem?Thanks
It sounds like a grounding issue. One way to check is use a cheater plug (3 prong to 2 prong converter). If the hum goes away, you've got a grounding problem that's not related to the 337. It is also advisable to disconnect the cable box. If it is a gounding issue, the hum can be introduced from any appliance in the chain, not just the display. This is a fairly common problem in audio.

David

[Mike Lang]

Hey guys, I'm looking to add a 532H to the theater as a secondary screen. I want to send 2 HD signals. Am I correct that I can send 720p/1080i from a HD TiVo over component to the Olevia's VGA input and it also has a composite audio input dedicated to the VGA? Thanks.

[daveWVU]

Hey, have any of you tried programming a 542i to a universal remote? What manufactuer codes do you use? On my older 20" Olevia I think I had to use an RCA code. I've tried a bunch so far and can't find one that works

I bought the MediaPilot keyboard from Belkin today and I'm all sorts of excited...but I can't get it to work the TV. You guys should check it out if it works. Its a wirless keyboard with a built in 8 component universal remote with learning capability. $89.99 at MicroCenter and it recharges via usb:-)

[Hammer Headly]

I just received my 332h from tigerdirect. The TV appears to be unresponsive. The blue indicator light is on, however, there is no response from the power button. I tried both the VGA input and the S-Video input from my computer to see if either would work, but it was to no avail. Has anyone else had this problem right out of the box? do I need to upgrade the firmware?

Any response would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[snowmoon]

Hey guys, I'm looking to add a 532H to the theater as a secondary screen. I want to send 2 HD signals. Am I correct that I can send 720p/1080i from a HD TiVo over component to the Olevia's VGA input and it also has a composite audio input dedicated to the VGA? Thanks.

This unit can take 2 componient signals one over RCA and the other over the VGA port, yes. Monoprice has the cables for a bargain as always.

The unit takes L/R rca audio for all inputs.

[stephenC]

Ok, it's the 1st of December, has anyone spotted the 7xx series anywhere? Any new information on the availability of the either the 747i or the 742i sets? TIA

[hc2]

Ok, it's the 1st of December, has anyone spotted the 7xx series anywhere? Any new information on the availability of the either the 747i or the 742i sets? TIA
From HDTVLounge:
"MSRP: Olevia 742i - $3999; Olevia 747i - $4999; now available for order through custom installation specialists plus select regional retailers."
So it may be worthwhile to call some installers or local shops and see if they can order them.


HDTVLounge (http://www.hdtvlounge.net/hdtv-televisions/lcd-hdtv/olevia-7-series-lcds/)
Article dated September, 2006.

[hc2]

I didnt want to mess with my settings too much at first, but i have found that using an HDMI cable has helped substantially in reducing the pixelation and blockiness around moving characters. I had a comcast technician visit my house today, she was VERY knowledgeable and said that comcast sends a better signal via 1080i than via 720p. She mentioned that this had to do with the signal compression and that 720p was more compressed than 1080i over comcast (i dont see why that would be the case, but these are her words, not mine). Also, turning the sharpness on the TV down to 35% really helps reduce pixelation as well, the higher the sharpness setting the more i notice the pixelation (HDMI cables). I think in the future that i will be using 720p for ESPN, FOX and ABC when i sit down to watch an entire game (or record a game), however i will be using 1080i otherwise.

Conclusion: the problem here must be more comcast related than Olevia 337H related. As 720p on my ps3 comes in absolutely beautifully (HDMI). 720p resolution on ps3 for games or blu-ray looks better than 1080i through comcast. The 3 series models do not have a built in tuner, so i cant compare OTA signals.

P.S. Ever since i got this TV i have noticed that NBA League Pass has VERY small bars on the top and bottom of the screen, not the sides. And these are not the standard letterbox bars, they are very small, but just noticeable enough to be annoying and not full screen. Anyone else have league pass and notice this?

Also, why does increasing noise reduction tend to mess with the PQ, i would think it would increase the PQ? At the previous poster's suggestion, i have turned it off.

About the last question, noise reduction in most cases is basically a sharpness control. A sharpness control will reduce detail in a video image, and if it is turned up too high, it will add extra edges to objects in the image. Use a THX movie dvd-some have video tuning chapters included, or Video Essentials and try tuning the video image on your TV, you will be amazed at how some controls actually work opposite of what we would think they actually control. On mine the bright,sharp, color, and contrast were all needing adjustment as it came from the manufacturer.

[hakujin]

From HDTVLounge:
"MSRP: Olevia 742i - $3999; Olevia 747i - $4999; now available for order through custom installation specialists plus select regional retailers."
So it may be worthwhile to call some installers or local shops and see if they can order them.


HDTVLounge (http://www.hdtvlounge.net/hdtv-televisions/lcd-hdtv/olevia-7-series-lcds/)
Article dated September, 2006.


Thanks, you just answered my question as well... I was looking for a 7 series thread thinking these suckers were widely available. $3999 is expensive... WOW, I'd like to hear some impressions. Is the price due to the new Silicon Optix HQV processor? What gives on the price?!

[slapshot]

I just received my 332h from tigerdirect. The TV appears to be unresponsive. The blue indicator light is on, however, there is no response from the power button. I tried both the VGA input and the S-Video input from my computer to see if either would work, but it was to no avail. Has anyone else had this problem right out of the box? do I need to upgrade the firmware?

Any response would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

On my 537H there is a master power button hidden in the back near the power cord outlet,check to see if you have one also on that model,that may be all it is.

[Mike Lang]

This unit can take 2 componient signals one over RCA and the other over the VGA port, yes. Monoprice has the cables for a bargain as always.

The unit takes L/R rca audio for all inputs.

Thanks, I thought I heard somewhere that there was a problem assigning one of the audio inputs to the VGA.

[stephenC]

Thanks, you just answered my question as well... I was looking for a 7 series thread thinking these suckers were widely available. $3999 is expensive... WOW, I'd like to hear some impressions. Is the price due to the new Silicon Optix HQV processor? What gives on the price?!

Most likely. If you look at the HQV website (http://www.hqv.com), the Olevia 7 series is the only flat panel with this chipset. All the other listed devices are either FP or standalone video processors. I find that interesting. Other CE manufacturers may have HQV sets in development, but I haven't seen any announcements. CES 2007 is in January. Maybe we'll hear something new then.

[Jim Hef]

...The blue indicator light is on, however, there is no response from the power button....
The blue light is the "standby" mode indicator. When you push the power button on the remote, the blue light will go off, and the screen remains blank for about 8-10 seconds or so. Then, you will get an Olevia logo screen..blue logo on white background. You don't see a picture for what feels like eternity, so hang in there. If nothing happens after that, then you have a problem set.

[ShenLong]

I just received my 332h from tigerdirect. The TV appears to be unresponsive. The blue indicator light is on, however, there is no response from the power button. I tried both the VGA input and the S-Video input from my computer to see if either would work, but it was to no avail. Has anyone else had this problem right out of the box? do I need to upgrade the firmware?

Any response would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

For me, I pressed the power button on the remote it showed the White bg Olevia Logo & then went to a blue screen. After that I switched to component, turned on my xbox360, and it worked fine.

[snowmoon]

Thanks, I thought I heard somewhere that there was a problem assigning one of the audio inputs to the VGA.


Hmmm there is a L/R Rca right next to the VGA, and since you can't use both the VGA and the VGA/componient I don't see how that would be a problem.

[VincentFAA]

Ok, it's the 1st of December, has anyone spotted the 7xx series anywhere? Any new information on the availability of the either the 747i or the 742i sets? TIA
I just called Olevia's customer service and I was told that the 747i will not be available for a month or so. I was told it was due to the fact that they were still working on stand issues.

[mcgurgd]

For me, I pressed the power button on the remote it showed the White bg Olevia Logo & then went to a blue screen. After that I switched to component, turned on my xbox360, and it worked fine.

I had to turn on the button just below the power cord on the back of the set.

[Hammer Headly]

Thanks for the recommendations folks. Turns out the unit is defective (my A/V genious father ran some tests). I've already spoken to Olevia and the replacement unit is on the way.

Thanks again!

[DAC21]

Well my 542i Olevia experiment is probably over. After 3 days of operation, day 4 brought a "no power up" I disconneted the power for a few minutes and tried again, the set powered up. I turned it off again to confirm the original incident was a fluke, nada!. I get the blue LED, but nothing else, waited as much as an hour with the set disconnected from power, still nothing. I tried different outlets, different power cords, forget it!

I'll be off to to the Tustin MC on Sunday, if they don't have a factory fresh replacement on hand, it's a refund and a wait for the next deal, which won't be a 42" Olevia. To heavy, stupid power off blue "Lighthouse" of an LED (bedroom unit), PIP issues, and no remote codes short of buying a $100+ Harmony.

Nice try Olevia, but no cigar.

[aero12]

Well my 542i Olevia experiment is probably over. After 3 days of operation, day 4 brought a "no power up" I disconneted the power for a few minutes and tried again, the set powered up. I turned it off again to confirm the original incident was a fluke, nada!. I get the blue LED, but nothing else, waited as much as an hour with the set disconnected from power, still nothing. I tried different outlets, different power cords, forget it!

I'll be off to to the Tustin MC on Sunday, if they don't have a factory fresh replacement on hand, it's a refund and a wait for the next deal, which won't be a 42" Olevia. To heavy, stupid power off blue "Lighthouse" of an LED (bedroom unit), PIP issues, and no remote codes short of buying a $100+ Harmony.

Nice try Olevia, but no cigar.

wow? too heavy? the set is exactly average for 42". the base is nice and wide and heavy. this makes it very stable and is an asset if you use the stand. moreover the stand and iron rails come off easily if you want to hang it (as to the speakers.)

as far as the led, this is a bit much to complain about. half the electronics on the maket have standby lights that are bright in the beadroom. my wife's apple g5 standby led lights up the room -- that is until one makes the investment of putting a tiny piece of electric tape over the led.

my pip is working perfect.

on remote codes, my $15 "all in one remote" copied every single function just fine. it took me five minutes.

[mattford11]

Anyone having issues w/ the 232v getting hdmi signals @ 720p and 1080i to stick? I get flicker... :(

[apexmi]

Anyone having issues w/ the 232v getting hdmi signals @ 720p and 1080i to stick? I get flicker... :(

I get it off my Directv H20 but my Toshiba HDDVD seems fine. What source are you getting the flicker/dropout from?

[DAC21]

"wow? too heavy? the set is exactly average for 42". the base is nice and wide and heavy. this makes it very stable and is an asset if you use the stand. moreover the stand and iron rails come off easily if you want to hang it (as to the speakers."



OK

Visio GV42L with stand 74 lbs
Westinghouse LVM-42W2 with stand 57 LBS
Toshiba P42LSA with stand 76 lbs


and drum roll please! Olevia 542i 96 lbs.

20+ pounds more, which was the difference in my wife not being able to effectively help me lift this behemoth up onto the new Cherrywood stand that I bought. Yep nice LARGE deep scratch on that new stand. And why should someone whom paid $800, let alone the people who are paying full fare ($1300), have to pay one more cent for another remote?

[aero12]

"wow? too heavy? the set is exactly average for 42". the base is nice and wide and heavy. this makes it very stable and is an asset if you use the stand. moreover the stand and iron rails come off easily if you want to hang it (as to the speakers."



OK

Visio GV42L with stand 74 lbs
Westinghouse LVM-42W2 with stand 57 LBS
Toshiba P42LSA with stand 76 lbs


and drum roll please! Olevia 542i 96 lbs.

20+ pounds more, which was the difference in my wife not being able to effectively help me lift this behemoth up onto the new Cherrywood stand that I bought. Yep nice LARGE deep scratch on that new stand. And why should someone whom paid $800, let alone the people who are paying full fare ($1300), have to pay one more cent for another remote?

You are comparing sets with NO Speakers, , tiny speakers, no tuners to a set with 20 watt speakers AND a tuner. Do you know the difference between a display and a TV? I have computer lcd moniters that weigh less than equivalent ldc HDTVs with tuners and speakers as well? Does the 42 westy you compared with have a tuner? etc.

It looks like your problem is that you bought a large TV with the hopes it would fit on a specific piece of furniture. You are comparing it to one you already have with 40% smaller, with no tuner, tiny speakers speakers etc. Sure it is lighter!

438" sq inches for your 32" westy vs. 738" sq inches for the 542i you returned. do the math.

Again, the 542i has a subtantial speakers, a substantial stable base, AND a tuner. You can easily remove the speakers and base and the unit isn't at all heavy for hanging on the wall, my 100lb wife and I just hung it ourselves.

As far as the remote you keep saying you need a $100 harmony. As I said you can get a $15 universal that will program every single function that remote. Learning remotes require no codes.

[mattford11]

I get it off my Directv H20 but my Toshiba HDDVD seems fine. What source are you getting the flicker/dropout from?

Comcast HD-DVR, using a DVI-HDMI cable

[aiwnow]

What's Olevia's tech support response time usually like? I emailed them on Monday about my audio output turning off with the speakers and have yet to get a response. I also tried calling but it just rings with no answer.

[aiwnow]

Has anyone tried hacking the Olevia firmware? The ATI based ones might run linux (http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Xilleon). The source code from some Sony Bravia models with the ATI Xilleon is available (http://products.sel.sony.com/opensource/source_tv.shtml).

[hdtv542i]

What upconverting DVD players are people using with the 537H? I'm considering the OPPO 71 but it has some underscanning issues and that's a concern. I'm looking in the $150. - $300. range but the budget is flexible.

David

Fry's has the Panasonic DVD-S52 on sale this weekend for $80. I was amazed at the upgrade in picture quality over the HDMI interface when compared to my non-upscaling DVD players hooked up over component connection. The DVD-52S also has a wealth of useful fine adjustments for picture parameters. The built-in upconversion in the Olevia 542i is pretty good but the DVD-S52 is noticeably better in sharpness and gradient smoothness, in my opinion. It also appears to improve black detail and contrast but I'm not yet sure about that.

[xythian04]

I'm noticing a lot of pixelation with Zelda: TP on the 537H. I have component cables and the Wii setup to 480p and 16:9. Component cables improve colors, but increase the number of jaggies, likely due to less image blurring. The 537H is brand new and has only been through the THX optimizer (color isn't the issue for me). Pixelation appears consistent through all screen modes (1:1, full, aspect).

537H pros, do you have any suggestions for Wii gaming? How does Zelda look on your sets? I feel like my display is inferior to the "comparison" screenshots I've seen on these forums and the gaming sites.

[cwbywill]

hi guys jus :) t got the 537h and i look and cant seem to find the answer to my ? sorry if im asking the same ? again has anyone found the opimal settings for the 537h and help would be great thank you

[joeblowstein]

From HDTVLounge:
"MSRP: Olevia 742i - $3999; Olevia 747i - $4999; now available for order through custom installation specialists plus select regional retailers."
So it may be worthwhile to call some installers or local shops and see if they can order them.



I called Olevia a few days ago and the customer service rep told me they were available. I checked a dozen websites and calls a few stores. No one had it on their computers except...TigerDirect. The rep I spoke with called their distributor to see if he could special order it. He called me back and said they could order it, but it would take 2-3 weeks to deliver. He told me the price, not including deliver, was about $2750.

I'm personally a bit skeptical that they could actually get it given that no one else knows anything about it. So I decided to hold off. I'll wait a few more weeks to see if others pick it up. I'm also heading to CES, so I'd like to see the TV before ordering.

[virgeowens]

My menu does not have Picture setting. Anyone know how to get this older model out of showroom mode?

[Pete]

Thanks, you just answered my question as well... I was looking for a 7 series thread thinking these suckers were widely available. $3999 is expensive... WOW, I'd like to hear some impressions. Is the price due to the new Silicon Optix HQV processor? What gives on the price?!


The prices have come down on 7-Series since most published articles and announcements were made. But they are still above average and the reason is not only because of the Silicon Optics processor, but because of all the other content as well: 4 tuners (2 HD and 2 NTSC) so you can do HD split screens and PIP; 2 HDMI inputs; Interchangable/removable speakers; RS232; USB; etc., etc...

My understanding is that the 747i is due to start shipping next week and the 742i ships around December 20.

[Pete]

Just a reminder....7-Series is not likely to be found at e-tailers. It is aimed at up-scale specialists and CEDIA-type dealer/installers who are supplied through certain distributors.

[Buckeyefan]

What's Olevia's tech support response time usually like? I emailed them on Monday about my audio output turning off with the speakers and have yet to get a response. I also tried calling but it just rings with no answer.

10 days to never. They've still not gotten back with me on the excessive distortion when the bass is turned up past 60%. This even effects the subwoofer output. :mad:

[EricInGA]

My menu does not have Picture setting. Anyone know how to get this older model out of showroom mode?

Try: Menu, Picture, Mode, Power up.

[EricInGA]

Here's a tip on a great programmable remote that can learn from virtually all IR remotes and it has macros. I'm using it with my Olevia 542i and DirectTV TiVo, and some audio components.

This is the Sony RM-VL600, which costs around $25 at WalMart, Best Buy, etc.

It doesn't look as cool as the Logitech Harmony, but it works very well and I love the price!

[EricInGA]

I read in this thread that 542i has QAM tuner. What are these tuners for atsc/ntsc/qam. I have basic comcast cable [ $15 ]. I get around 20 digital stations. some are HD and some are not.

I have a 542i and I get all kinds of channels from the Comcast cable: analog, digital, and HD. My Olivia found them all automatically. I am not using any kind of cable box.

However, if you want premium channels or pay-per-view you'll need a cable box. There's also a range of channels I can't get from the cable (things like MSNBC), but I normally use DirectTV for most channels. I only utilize the cable to get HD channels.

I only have Limited Basic cable service, since it's basically free with cable internet service - they only charge a couple dollars more to get CATV service along with internet. So now I get my most important local channels in HDTV for almost nothing!

[Buckeyefan]

I've got a Time Warner HD DVR. What would happen if I removed the DVR, and ran the cable right into the back of the 537? Would I lose channels 100 - 1100? Would I lose the HD channels in the 700 range? I never thought of bypassing the HD DVR, but the last post got me thinking. Is that what a QAM tuner does?

[cwbywill]

hi guys still looking for optimal settings for 537 h and wondering if there is a setting that can be changed when i use the aspect button on had channels i never get a full pic on the tv still have bars on the side not when the channel is broadcasting hd just during the other times but i also have a panasonic plasma the will fill the screen so wonder is there a setting that will allow me to do this with my syntax thanks for any help you guys are so smart

[Primestar31]

As far as the remote you keep saying you need a $100 harmony. As I said you can get a $15 universal that will program every single function that remote. Learning remotes require no codes.

Aero12, would you be so kind as to post the exact name, and perhaps the model number of the remote you are refering to? Thanks!

[stephenC]

Just a reminder....7-Series is not likely to be found at e-tailers. It is aimed at up-scale specialists and CEDIA-type dealer/installers who are supplied through certain distributors.

Interesting. So, I need to check with the AVSForum sponsors and see who is going to carry the Olevia 7xx series sets.

Thanks.

[type7]

hi guys still looking for optimal settings for 537 h and wondering if there is a setting that can be changed when i use the aspect button on had channels i never get a full pic on the tv still have bars on the side not when the channel is broadcasting hd just during the other times but i also have a panasonic plasma the will fill the screen so wonder is there a setting that will allow me to do this with my syntax thanks for any help you guys are so smart

You seriously need to use some punctuation and capitalization to make it easier on the reader ;)

Let me help.

Hi guys! Still looking for optimal settings for 537 h and wondering if there is a setting that can be changed when i use the aspect button on had channels? I never get a full pic on the tv. Still have bars on the side not when the channel is broadcasting hd just during the other times, but i also have a panasonic plasma the will fill the screen so wonder is there a setting that will allow me to do this with my syntax? Thanks for any help you guys are so smart!

I posted this on the Official Olevia 537H, 437V & 237V Thread, I'd imagine the 237 and 537 have similar picture quality and setups.

Posting picture settings on the 237 is a bit hard in that there are no numbers to relate.

I've got brightness about 1/3 to less than 1/2. Contrast slightly past the middle. Color maybe at about the 60% area. Tint 1 or 2 notches past default middle. I set sharpness at about 1/4 for sd and off for hd sources. I set color at native instead of 65k because 65k looks way too red on my set.

For hd sources, I've got noise reduction off, adaptive luma off, flesh tone off, and contrast and white peak limiter on. For sd sources, I have noise reduction at medium and I turned the rest of the settings on.

I just eyeballed these settings switching between various ota hd channels, sd channels, and a few dvds.

I'd be interested in seeing what other people are coming up with.

[netstroller]

I've got a Time Warner HD DVR. What would happen if I removed the DVR, and ran the cable right into the back of the 537? Would I lose channels 100 - 1100? Would I lose the HD channels in the 700 range? I never thought of bypassing the HD DVR, but the last post got me thinking. Is that what a QAM tuner does?
The tuner will only go up to channel 125.

[Primestar31]

My 537H is definately pushing yellow. I can set it to 93k instead of 65k, and that helps a lot on most inputs. However, I just hooked up my Charter Moxie DVR, using a DVI to HDMI cable from Monoprice. At 93k, on the HDMI, that now looks like it has a very slight push towards yellow again. Anybody have any fast ways to adjust this, short of running through the complete AVIA suite? Kinda sucks that they don't have number calibrations in their menu's, so nobody can easily share their settings.

I also set my Moxie to 16x9, and checked all the boxes for the resolutions in the menu. When I select a channel, it briefly goes to "NO SIGNAL", then you hear a slight click, and it comes up in whatever native resolution that channel is being broadcast in. Is that normal? Perhaps the tv is just much faster than the MOXIE, which waiting for the Moxie is like watching dirt erode before it does things. I love having a dvr, but this thing is a dog!

Anyway, help with the yellow push? I'm assuming I'll have to go into the menu for say the 65k-user setting, and tweak those?

[tonychris]

As far as the remote you keep saying you need a $100 harmony. As I said you can get a $15 universal that will program every single function that remote. Learning remotes require no codes.

True... but you have to sit there and learn the infrared signals. You don't with the Harmony's.

[redgtconv]

I downloaded the latest firmware for the 537h to my laptop. Now how do I download it from my laptop to the 537h?

[Jim Hef]

Type7, how are you making the settings distinctive for HD and SD channels? Are these coming through on different inputs in your case vs. a cable box?

[Flatline]

I would like to repost the TIVO code question. Does anyone have a good code to put into the TIVO remote to control a 542?

In regards to Flux's post above. My XBOX 360 looks great in 720p and 1080i (I prefer 720p). Good luck on your return. I might suggest one thing. Ask a friend to borrow their 360 cables and see if that resolves the issue. You may need to buy new cables. My friend had a similar problem with his high priced Sharp (I do admit it has a better picture but at 3 times what I paid for mine). My cords worked fine. When he first called me I had to remind him to set the switch on the cord to HD. He had it on regular TV still. It got better but still had a problem. It is easier to go pick up a new cord than exchange the TV.

From a techsupport guy at syntaxbrillian:
START>
They are no Olevia codes out there for other remotes to use.

A Universal Learning remote will be able to read the Olevia frequencies
if you choose to go that route.

From the previous email:

>We do not have codes for our Tv's produced this year.
>
>The name brands you attempted we've found to have work for models
>produced in 2004/2005.

END<

So it doesn't look good for getting that tivo remote to work. I was quite disappointed as well.

[type7]

Type7, how are you making the settings distinctive for HD and SD channels? Are these coming through on different inputs in your case vs. a cable box?

Yes, different inputs. Component, rf, and s-vid. They all seem to be able to hold different setups.

Interestingly the manual mentions that under - picture - mode - input, you can "select the video input source with varied qualities" and lists vcr, interlaced dvd, progressive dvd, standard def tv, high def tv, and user. I keep forgetting to mess with those to see what they actually do.

[trap6days]

Here's a tip on a great programmable remote that can learn from virtually all IR remotes and it has macros. I'm using it with my Olevia 542i and DirectTV TiVo, and some audio components.

This is the Sony RM-VL600, which costs around $25 at WalMart, Best Buy, etc.

It doesn't look as cool as the Logitech Harmony, but it works very well and I love the price!

What do you do for the TiVo skip forward and backward buttons (+30sec and -10sec if the TiVo is like my DishPVR)? I thought about this remote, but I use the skip buttons *way* too much and it doesn't look like there are any extra buttons on the remote that could be used to learn these two functions?

[phipp01]

I downloaded the latest firmware for the 537h to my laptop. Now how do I download it from my laptop to the 537h?


Check a few pages back I think around Thanksgiving weekend is the date I posted a few quick steps how to do it. :)

[phipp01]

Polypro dont use the tv as your PC monitor to do the firmware update. D/L the update install the USB driver then you turn the TV on then it will tell you to choose the right comport. I had 1 choice com3. press step 1 the you disconnect the power cord for 10 seconds reconnect it power tv on then go to step 2 disconnect the powercord again for 10 seconds then your finished. Not a complete step by step but close. I just updated my 537h after owning it for 2 months and it was pretty easy. took half hour to D/L the update at a whopping 4k speed then 40 minutes to D/L the instructions.

There you go

[Beau57]

I have owned my 537h for about a month now and still find some of the settings confusing. I was under the impression that all settings were applied to all inputs. Seems that is not the case. Do I select the individual source inputs and then adjust. The whole cube thing is a little bit of a pain although I have gotten much faster. Unless I revert to the factory settings/ factory settings by input they would remain in effect is my new understanding. If I choose HDMI for example on the remote and then bring up the cube for adjustment would this be the correct way or do I open the cube and select the input and then make adjustments. Please clarify. Thanks

[netstroller]

I noticed there's a sort of mostly transparent layer of something on my display. It's almost like a slightly dirty screen, but it's not on the LCD. It's looks a little like what you'd get when washing glass with water and it leaves a thin layer of stain behind.

It's either inside the LCD or is part of the picture signal. It's not bad, I usually don't notice it from over seven feet or so. And I don't think it's there all the time, but not sure yet, maybe just not there for DVD playing, will have to experiment some more.

I've seen it mentioned in a thread before but now can't find it, and I can't remember if anyone said they knew how to get rid of it. Anybody know what it is and how to get rid of it, do you have it? I have a 542i. TIA

[Naylia]

I have owned my 537h for about a month now and still find some of the settings confusing. I was under the impression that all settings were applied to all inputs. Seems that is not the case. Do I select the individual source inputs and then adjust.

This is on purpose, and yes you select the individual source and adjust. The reason is so that you can calibrate the display to correctly match each of your different sources. Not every source outputs video exactly the same. Some of the HD cable channels occasionally show calibration screens you can use to calibrate cable tv. You can buy calibration disks for SD and HD disc players. Other inputs you just have to eye and make your best judgement/decide what looks best to you.

[xythian04]

I've had my 537H for a couple of days and noticed a couple of quirks.

The SD channels appear slightly off center (too far to the left). I have to manually adjust the image to the right every time i switch between a HD and SD channel. Is this common?

Finally, SD segments on HD channels (commercials, etc) sometimes contain fuzzy lines at the top. I can move the image up to hide them, but have to change the positioning again if I switch between HD/SD channels.

Does the TV store screen and picture settings for each input or will it continue to "reset" every time it switches tuners?

[Naylia]

Finally, SD segments on HD channels (commercials, etc) sometimes contain fuzzy lines at the top. I can move the image up to hide them, but have to change the positioning again if I switch between HD/SD channels.

Many fixed pixel displays do not overscan the image like CRTs do. I believe it is the CC information that is contained in that noise at the top and it is technically part of the image. Sometimes broadcasters overscan it off the screen when scaling their SD to an HD broadcast format and sometimes they don't.

[xythian04]

Many fixed pixel displays do not overscan the image like CRTs do. I believe it is the CC information that is contained in that noise at the top and it is technically part of the image. Sometimes broadcasters overscan it off the screen when scaling their SD to an HD broadcast format and sometimes they don't.

Any thoughts on how to remove it with the 537H? Adjusting the vertical position every time I switch between HD/SD is cumbersome, but may be the only solution.

[swampass2]

Any thoughts on how to remove it with the 537H? Adjusting the vertical position every time I switch between HD/SD is cumbersome, but may be the only solution.

Menu -> Screen -> Cropping -> On

That will usually do the trick.

[Mike Lang]

Well, I have my mount here at the house...
http://www.omnimount.com/consumer/product.aspx?ProductId=e23e635e-389a-4fea-a7d1-e0c0b305d01f
Can anyone tell me the distance from the top of the TV to the upper mounting holes on the 532H? I'd like to have the mount in place when the TV gets here. Thanks!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/mlang2000/532H.jpg

[weberman]

Question for someone knowledgeable in the Firmware Update process:

I just attempted to update the firmware on my 537. I followed the instructions and Step 1 went perfectly. Then after powering the TV back up and hitting Step 2 the program tried to erase numerous times and then I get an error message "Flash Failed". I tried to reflash and after a successful Step 1 and Step 2 attempts to complete but I get the same message that Flash failed. During Step 2 there was a line that read "Unknown Flash Type"

However the TV works and the firmware version shows the new version number.

The flash never was able to complete Step 2. If the flash did not complete how am I getting the new version number?

However the TV works and the firmware version shows the new version number.

The only problem I have had after this flash attempt was that after watching TV for a while, all the controls on the remote and the front panel of the TV were not working. I had to pull the plug and restart the TV and the controls work.

Any ideas or suggestions? What am I missing?

:confused: :confused:

[netstroller]

Question for someone knowledgeable in the Firmware Update process:

I just attempted to update the firmware on my 537. I followed the instructions and Step 1 went perfectly. Then after powering the TV back up and hitting Step 2 the program tried to erase numerous times and then I get an error message "Flash Failed". I tried to reflash and after a successful Step 1 and Step 2 attempts to complete but I get the same message that Flash failed. During Step 2 there was a line that read "Unknown Flash Type"

However the TV works and the firmware version shows the new version number.

The flash never was able to complete Step 2. If the flash did not complete how am I getting the new version number?

However the TV works and the firmware version shows the new version number.

The only problem I have had after this flash attempt was that after watching TV for a while, all the controls on the remote and the front panel of the TV were not working. I had to pull the plug and restart the TV and the controls work.

Any ideas or suggestions? What am I missing?

:confused: :confused:
You're not doing anything wrong. Either the flash file is bad or something's bad about the TV. I had the same problem with my 542i and finally downloaded an unreleased newer version of the firmware and that updated fine. Somebody in a thread provided the link to the download, it's a Syntax server but don't know if there's anything wrong with that newer "D" version of the firmware that I don't know about...TV's working fine so far anyways.

[aiwnow]

10 days to never. They've still not gotten back with me on the excessive distortion when the bass is turned up past 60%. This even effects the subwoofer output. :mad:

Actually, I just noticed they sent a reply that arrived just before (according to the timestamp) I posted my message.
The tech support guy says it's an error in the manual and it's normal that the audio outputs turn off when the speakers are disabled. I think this defeats the point of disabling the speakers. But, you can turn the volume all the way down and achieve what I want. The TV speakers will not make sounds while the audio outputs are still active.
He mentioned that I should check for firmware updates in the future that might fix the problem.

[neildo]

Olevia 532H - I am looking (like a lot of other people) for the remote code for comcast remote. I have tried all the RCA, LG, Goldstar codes and nothing works in the comcast remote.

Comcast does not have one either.


I have an Olevia 537H and Comcast Motorola DVR. I discovered a way to control the VOLUME using the comcast remote. Normally the volume button on the comcast remote is locked to the TV, however you can unlock the volume so it can be controlled by the cable box. This is a decent workaround since it seems there are no remote codes for the newer Olevias. Anyway, here are the instructions from the comcast guide...

Unlocking All Volume Controls (Global Volume Unlock):

Press and hold SETUP until the selected mode key blinks twice, then release SETUP.
Enter 9- 9- 3 and then press VOL+ once. The mode key will blink four times confirming unlock.
Now, volume controls for all devices can be independently controlled in their own modes.

[leonoe]

Anyone know who has the 747i's in stock or whether Olevia has started shipping?

[jeffsiler]

Anyone have a Nintendo Wii hooked up via component? On my Olevia 337h there is a lot of aliasing going on. I'm guessing this is because of a 480p signal stretching to 1366x768 (my native resolution).

The bowling pins look horrible in wii sports :)

Jeff

[Penance]

I just picked up a 540i. I read earlier in the thread that this is not technically part of the new Olevia line, but I was hoping someone could help me out.

The OTA HDTV picture I get via antenna is AWESOME. However, when I tried hooking the set up to my receiver to send the audio to my sound system, I couldn't get it to work.

Does this set support audio out when using the DTV input, or am I stuck with the TV's built in speakers?

I tried the optical out jack as well as regular RCA. I also tried disabling the TV's speakers via the OSD with no luck. Is there anything else special I have to do?

[Pete]

Anyone know who has the 747i's in stock or whether Olevia has started shipping?

Dealers are being told that the 747i will be another week to 10 days before it starts shipping.

[EricInGA]

What do you do for the TiVo skip forward and backward buttons (+30sec and -10sec if the TiVo is like my DishPVR)? I thought about this remote, but I use the skip buttons *way* too much and it doesn't look like there are any extra buttons on the remote that could be used to learn these two functions?

I've got all the keys I care about, including those 2. Further, I reprogrammed FF to send 3 separate FF commands in rapid succession, to get me up to the highest FF speed with one button press. Now I use this FF most of the time, instead of the 30 sec skip, but I have them both.

The key to saving buttons is to realize that many keys (like the cursor keys) only need to work in a mode sensitive manner. But I stay in SAT mode most of the time, so I mapped some TV buttons to the SAT mode so I can use them without switching modes first.

Remember that every button can be reprogrammed, although they can't all take a macro. I mapped my keys to have a similar layout as TiVo to minimize the learning curve.

One cool aspect is to program a macro into the mode select buttons. If you hold down AMP, it can both select the AMP mode, and also turn it on. Or you can program one of the A-D keys to turn on all of your devices with one button press.

This Sony remote also has greater range than my TiVo remote. But this might be due to it having new batteries.

It also learns faster than any other remote I've used. It only takes a couple button taps to have it learn each key once you're in the learn mode. And it always works right - unlike some "learning" remotes I've used before.

Let me know if you need more info. This is the smartest $25 I've spent in a long time. I'm sure it doesn't have the fine feel of the Harmony, and it doesn't have the web interface, but it's still a steal at this price.

Eric

[EricInGA]

The tuner will only go up to channel 125.

That's true, but many cable companies renumber their channels so they aren't using the real FCC channel numbers. For example, channel 700 might really be 74-2.

The dashed numbering is the HD multicast thing, where a single channel number can have more that one channel on it, and the dash tells you which one you want at a given channel number. Most cable companies remap all of the dashed channels to avoid confusing users, and this is how they appear to have so many channels to offer.

So 125 channels isn't such a bad limit after all. But it's true that I'm not able to tune all of the channels I'm authorized to view. And there's no way you can see a premium channel by going directly into the TV.

Eric

[EricInGA]

The tech support guy says it's an error in the manual and it's normal that the audio outputs turn off when the speakers are disabled. I think this defeats the point of disabling the speakers. But, you can turn the volume all the way down and achieve what I want. The TV speakers will not make sounds while the audio outputs are still active.

True, and unlike what the manual says, you cannot hurt your TV by leaving the speakers enabled while using the audio outs. This is because you're taking this output at the preamp level. The manual was written for the case of using the TV amplifier to power external speakers directly, and having both sets of speakers powered from the same amplifier could hurt the amplifier. But I don't think is even possible on the newer TVs, and none of us would want to do that.

Eric

[BIG ED]

Dealers are being told that the 747i will be another week to 10 days before it starts shipping.
Where have I heard that one before...


Nothing against you Pete! :o
Just, it always seems to be ten more days, for everything.
Thanks for the info. ;)

[aiwnow]

Well, I have my mount here at the house...
http://www.omnimount.com/consumer/product.aspx?ProductId=e23e635e-389a-4fea-a7d1-e0c0b305d01f
Can anyone tell me the distance from the top of the TV to the upper mounting holes on the 532H? I'd like to have the mount in place when the TV gets here. Thanks!


I just measured my 532H. This distance you highlighted is slightly less than 5 inches. If it's metric, it's about 12.5 cm.

[Pete]

Where have I heard that one before...


Nothing against you Pete! :o
Just, it always seems to be ten more days, for everything.
Thanks for the info. ;)

Big Ed,

I'm as anxious as you are to see a production unit....which is why I have pestered Olevia frequently for delivery updates. I'm just sharing what they have been telling me. To their credit, they could have shipped this set earlier with flawed software, but opted not to. They are smart enough to realize that a top-of-the-line premium product really needs to make a good first impression. The delays will be forgiven and forgotten if these babies live up to their potential.

[leonoe]

After several tries, finally got a response from Syntax regarding the ship date of the Olevia 747i - came through yesterday and its unfortunately not shipping in the next week...

Due to the huge demand for our Olevia TVs in this season, our production has to focus on our regular LCD TV and delay the 747i production schedule. We have not shipped any unit to our distributor or retailer at this moment. Most likely, you will be able to see it in the store for another month. Thanks.

[stephenC]

I have read that the 7xx series uses the HQV chip (great) and the ATI Xilleon chipset (problematic). If this is true, then Syntax may be trying to resolve the 480i input problem discussed in another thread. As Pete mentioned, the 7xx series has to be perfect on launch in all respects. Otherwise, Syntax is going to have a lot of damage control to do.

[Xcalibur_255]

There's no need whatsoever for the unit to need both chips. The Realta performs both de-interlacing and scaling and should be the only chipset inside the unit.

[Mike Lang]

I just measured my 532H. This distance you highlighted is slightly less than 5 inches. If it's metric, it's about 12.5 cm.

Thanks!

[gpflepsen]

Does the 5xx series (532H specifically) display psip info?

[Buckeyefan]

Due to the huge demand for our Olevia TVs in this season, our production has to focus on our regular LCD TV and delay the 747i production schedule. We have not shipped any unit to our distributor or retailer at this moment. Most likely, you will be able to see it in the store for another month. Thanks.

Nice grammar. It's nice to see English classes are no longer prerequisites for a degree here in the States.

[weberman]

Does the 5xx series (532H specifically) display psip info?


To the best of my knowledge none of the current Olevia models 500 series an below have PSIP (Program and Systems Information Protocol).

I don't know about the 700 series.

[gpflepsen]

(psip) ^^^I figured they didn't since there's not been one mention of it in this thread.

***edit*** Just received My 532H and it does display psip info.

[Derek_HTPC]

I have read that the 7xx series uses the HQV chip (great) and the ATI Xilleon chipset (problematic). If this is true, then Syntax may be trying to resolve the 480i input problem discussed in another thread. As Pete mentioned, the 7xx series has to be perfect on launch in all respects. Otherwise, Syntax is going to have a lot of damage control to do.
There's no need whatsoever for the unit to need both chips. The Realta performs both de-interlacing and scaling and should be the only chipset inside the unit.
The TV does use both chips. The ATI Xilleon chip is the front-end (CPU/GPU and MPEG2 decoding). Depending on which Xilleon chip it is, it is probably also doing the ATSC/QAM decoding. All the back-end image processing (scaling, deinterlacing, noise reduction, etc.) is done by the SiliconOptix Realta HQV.

[stephenC]

Derek - Do you have any links for your information? I couldn't find my references and didn't want to argue without some proof. A few block diagrams would be great. The MPEG2 decoding is what concerns me. That function may be the root of the ghosting issues with 480i inputs. Still, I have nothing to reference.

[badself]

The 747i with the Realta processor attracted me almost from the onset of its announcement, and I'm still interested in purchasintg the set once it becomes more available.

For the interim, I purchased a 542i from Microcenter on Black Friday for [EDIT]out the door with all incentives. The set is worth that much, but I have minimal to moderate backlight clouding, as most purchasers of these sets have experienced. Mine is evenly scattered, but I know it's there.

The Sony 1080p clouding thread is now 37 pages long, and a lot of those sets look pretty darn bad.

Realta, or no Realta, if the LG glass on the 742i exhibits even minimal clouding like mine (the 47 panel may be devoid of the problem, I doubt it), owners of these expensive sets may be in the same position as owners of the expensive Sony's.

I'm still debating whether to accept the problem on a set costing less than $800. A comparable Sony S2000 is nearly $2k, and these sets have no clouding issues, but are too close to the cost of a 1080p set.

I sincerely hope the 7 series sets are free of clouding, I guess we'll know soon enough.

[aiwnow]

Does the 5xx series (532H specifically) display psip info?
The "Guide" button on my remote doesn't do anything. But, pressing "display" will show the current channel name, program name, and program description for channels the transmit it.

[aiwnow]

I got a DVI to HDMI cable today and connected my computer to my 532H. There is a problem displaying one pixel wide vertical single color lines. White lines will show up correctly anywhere on the screen, but colored ones only show up in color in every other pixel column. In the alternate columns, they'll be some shade of gray. Horizontal lines show up fine except for the first or last pixel.
I discovered the problem using a monitor test pattern. The attach picture shows a cut out from a picture of the TV showing a red test pattern. Notice that some of the vertical lines appear gray and parts of red arcs are gray.
I can also see the problem using paintbrush. If I draw vertical lines, I can move the window horizontally and the line will change from colored to gray and back as I move it.
This happens in all resolutions and aspect ratio settings. It does not happen with the VGA input.
Any ideas about what's going on? Which is broken, my TV, my video card, or my DVI-HDMI cable? I'm using an ATI Radeon 9600.

[Jim Hef]

Just a thought here, but there are differences between DVI-I and DVI-D, and possibly your cable isn't "speaking" properly to the panel from the video card. Do you know the specs of that card, and whether you have the proper connector?

[phipp01]

Was just wondering what people are using to clean the screens on the tv.
I was thinking of trying the Monster cleaner but I hate to put money into their pockets. Any suggestions?

[epicbloodline]

where the hell is the 747 models?

[gpflepsen]

Was just wondering what people are using to clean the screens on the tv.
I was thinking of trying the Monster cleaner but I hate to put money into their pockets. Any suggestions?

From Syntax-Olevia group

Q: What do you recommend to clean an Olevia TV?

A: There are many new cleaning products on the market designed especially for LCD Displays. We recommend using a soft, lint free cloth and a cleaner that contains any of the following:

* Water
* Vinegar (mixed with water)
* Isopropyl Alcohol
* Windex mixed with water

Do not use cleaners that contain any of the following agents:

* Acetone
* Ethyl Alcohol
* Ethyl Acid
* Ammonia
* Methyl Chloride

Important:
Do not spray any liquids on the LCD screen directly. Always apply the solution to your cloth first, not directly to the parts you are cleaning. Always use a soft cotton cloth. Some materials, such as paper towels or old rags could cause scratches and damage the LCD screen.

[phipp01]

what the hell is the 747 models?
I Know I Know!!!! It's an airplane. :D
No seriously it's Olevia's top of the line LCD. Availibility is unknown at this time. :(

[Pete]

I Know I Know!!!! It's an airplane. :D
No seriously it's Olevia's top of the line LCD. Availibility is unknown at this time. :(

Now they are saying that the 747i will not be available until early January.

[furboo]

Now they are saying that the 747i will not be available until early January.

January 2010? :(

[amarksp]

Ok, have a few questions for you experts.

Here is my setup:
a) Olevia 537H
b) Time Warner Digital Cable (not HD)
c) Motorola DCT6200 High-Definition Cable Receiver
http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/dct6200/downloads/DCT6200_User_Guide.pdf
d) Philips DVD Player with HDMI (DVP5960)
e) Sony A/V receiver with Energy Speakers
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1) Still have not figured out how to do Cable auto channel setup so that the 537H Tuner is functioning. Can view Cable channels via Component 1 source but not via Tuner source. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages of using Tuner source vs. Component 1 source? How exactly do I go about getting the Tuner source to function with Time Warner? What are the exact cable connections, RF bypass options?, cable box menu setup to get the Tuner source to function and thus get the auto cable channel setup to function...

2) Can anyone recommend a cheap learning remote for the 537H. For example, has anyone tried the Sony RM-VL710 or similar cheap remote so I can use a single remote for all equipment. Please advise any learning remote that works well with Olevia TV, Time Warner Motorola Cable Box, DVD Player, and A/V Receiver.
http://www.remotecentral.com/vl710/index.html

3) Has anyone tried using the monoprice.com 2X1 Manual HDMI Switch? If so, does this switch work ok without degrading picture, etc. This appears to be a viable means to work around the 1 HDMI port on the 537H? Please advise.

Thanks for any comments or suggestions!

[redgtconv]

I was going to do my first download tonight. I had a usb cable which I use to connect my computer to my digital camera, and I have a usb cable which connects my computer to my gps. Both are identical and I thought this is what I needed to conect to the tv. But neither one seems to fit the terminal on the tv. Exactly what type of usb cable do I need?

[Derek_HTPC]

Derek - Do you have any links for your information? I couldn't find my references and didn't want to argue without some proof. A few block diagrams would be great. The MPEG2 decoding is what concerns me. That function may be the root of the ghosting issues with 480i inputs. Still, I have nothing to reference.
I am not sure what you mean by "ghosting", since that word typically refers to analog NTSC multipath signal artifacts and is affected primarily by the tuner quality (i.e. unrelated to MPEG2 decoding or to the 480i component inputs).

The Realta only does post-processing, so other chip(s) are needed for CPU, GPU, tuning and MPEG2 decode. The first bullet in the 7-series press release says that the front-end chip is the Xilleon:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060912/20060912005600.html?.v=1

Also note the ATI logo in the bottom corner of the 747i brochure:
http://www.olevia.com/jsp/products/pdf/S_747isheet_07.pdf

Here is some more info on the chips for those who are interested...

ATI Xilleon info:
http://ati.amd.com/products/dtv.html

SiliconOptix Realta HQV info:
http://www.hqv.com/technology.cfm (the consumer-facing web site)
http://www.siliconoptix.com/chipProducts/Realta (watch the video)
http://www.siliconoptix.com/chipProducts/Realta/Realtafeatures

[aiwnow]

My video card is a Radeon 9600 128 MB (325 MHz core, 400 MHz memory) with 1 VGA connector and 1 DVI connector.
The DVI-HDMI cable has a DVI-D single link connector on the DVI end.

I did some more experimenting today. The 532H picture quality thread mentioned a new firmware. So, I downloaded it and installed it. The vertical line problem is still present. (The audio out shutting off with the speaker problem is also not fixed.)
I connected my 17 inch LCD via a DVI-D single link cable and the display is fine. So, it appears the video card is ok.
Has anyone sucessfully used a HDMI-DVI cable to connect their computer? The vertical line problem only shows up with color single pixel wide segments. So, it's really hard to see the problem using a video source.

[phipp01]

I was going to do my first download tonight. I had a usb cable which I use to connect my computer to my digital camera, and I have a usb cable which connects my computer to my gps. Both are identical and I thought this is what I needed to conect to the tv. But neither one seems to fit the terminal on the tv. Exactly what type of usb cable do I need?

Those are mini USB plugs what you need is a regular USB plug. I ran into the same problem and luckily found a regular USB cable in a drawer. :)

Heres a link http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&style=. That should be what you need.

[netstroller]

I was going to do my first download tonight. I had a usb cable which I use to connect my computer to my digital camera, and I have a usb cable which connects my computer to my gps. Both are identical and I thought this is what I needed to conect to the tv. But neither one seems to fit the terminal on the tv. Exactly what type of usb cable do I need?
If you have a USB printer or scanner, borrow that cable for the firmware update.

[Primestar31]

My 537H is definately pushing yellow. I can set it to 93k instead of 65k, and that helps a lot on most inputs. However, I just hooked up my Charter Moxie DVR, using a DVI to HDMI cable from Monoprice. At 93k, on the HDMI, that now looks like it has a very slight push towards yellow again. Anybody have any fast ways to adjust this, short of running through the complete AVIA suite? Kinda sucks that they don't have number calibrations in their menu's, so nobody can easily share their settings.

I also set my Moxie to 16x9, and checked all the boxes for the resolutions in the menu. When I select a channel, it briefly goes to "NO SIGNAL", then you hear a slight click, and it comes up in whatever native resolution that channel is being broadcast in. Is that normal? Perhaps the tv is just much faster than the MOXIE, which waiting for the Moxie is like watching dirt erode before it does things. I love having a dvr, but this thing is a dog!

Anyway, help with the yellow push? I'm assuming I'll have to go into the menu for say the 65k-user setting, and tweak those?


My "Yellow push" issue has been SOLVED by downloading, and installing firmware B11_060831D. It seems to have completely RESET what I was supposed to get with "factory calibration", which wasn't right from the time I unboxed it. I then used AVIA to attempt to tweak it further, and it was so dead on after the new Bios flash, very little tweaking I did made any difference.

This also cured an issue I had with the tv defaulting to "CHURCH" mode, and causing the sound to horribly echo, when turned ON after being off for any length of time. That was very annoying, as I couldn't train the wife to turn that off herself, and she was on a rampage about it. It also cured the calendar problem.

So, if strange things are happening to YOU, try a new firmware, and see what happens!

[stephenC]

I am not sure what you mean by "ghosting", since that word typically refers to analog NTSC multipath signal artifacts and is affected primarily by the tuner quality (i.e. unrelated to MPEG2 decoding or to the 480i component inputs).

Thanks, Derek. There is a thread in this forum related to the 480i input problem, I think snowmoon started it. There are posts related the ATI chipset. These problems if they are also exhibited on the 7xx series may be the reason for the delays in availability. The other thread is specifically related to the 537 model.

[Primestar31]

537H tv.

Oh yeah, almost forgot: Can anybody tell me why certain video (I think it's 480i stuff) can make it look like the walls of a house in a picture are "pulsing" (for lack of a better word). For instance, using a VHS recorder, playing back through Composite 1, on certain scenes on the videos I watch, it looks like the walls of a house are "waving"/pulsing. Kinda hard to explain, and I don't yet know what all instances cause it, but I've also seen it happen on the HDMI connection, which is receiving input from a MOXI dvr. It's kind of annoying, and I'd like to figure out what it is, so I can see if there's a fix for it. Perhaps this is the "ghosting" you are talking about, but it doesn't happen to the entire scene, just to stuff on the sides, such as walls like I've mentioned.

[Jim Hef]

Never having hooked my VHS player to this panel, I couldn't tell for certain, but I believe what you are probably seeing is the gymnastics the scaler is going through to try to display a low resolution analog interlaced picture onto a high resolution progressive display.

[amarksp]

As a general audio question, is it best to control the volume via the Olevia TV volume control or via the Cable Box volume control? That is, which remote is best to use to increase volume and why, or does it make any difference? Please advise/comment on the issues here.

I own the Olevia 537H.

As another general audio question for those with Time Warner or Comcast menu box setup, which settings are best to use for Audio Setup:
1) TV Speakers
2) Stereo
3) Stereo: Advanced (which compression heavy, light, none?--Matrix/Stereo?)

Could someone please advise the issues here. Will primarily use TV speakers for most TV viewing but like to change to A/V Receiver speakers for football games. Do these cable box audio setup options make any difference?

[gpflepsen]

The "Guide" button on my remote doesn't do anything. But, pressing "display" will show the current channel name, program name, and program description for channels the transmit it.

I installed my 532H yesterday, and it displays program info. The only way it can be getting to the set is via psip from the broadcasters. So I would say it does utilize psip.

[daveWVU]

Hi, I have a 542i that I bought on BF. I finally had a chance to hook up a new cable box. Well it worked fine until I swapped it out to a HD DVR. Specificially the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD with Cox service here in Fairfax, VA.

The first box I hooked up was a regular digital box. I used S-Video and the picture was ok. With the HD box I hooked it up using component cables (the 5 cable thing). I have no reds and there's a loud buzzing that seems to roughly correspond to the amount of white on the screen. I then hookup the box using composite (3 cables) and s-video. The box worked fine.

I decided to take it back anyways and get one that works. Well the new box does the same thing. Any suggestions???? I called Cox and they want to send someone out but I'm never home when they they have slots open

The component hook up works fine with my PS2 set to 480p 16:9. The cable box does it no matter what the setting: 480i,p, 720p, 1080i.

Please help!!!

[Zappcatt]

Hi, I have a 542i that I bought on BF. I finally had a chance to hook up a new cable box. Well it worked fine until I swapped it out to a HD DVR. Specificially the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD with Cox service here in Fairfax, VA.

The first box I hooked up was a regular digital box. I used S-Video and the picture was ok. With the HD box I hooked it up using component cables (the 5 cable thing). I have no reds and there's a loud buzzing that seems to roughly correspond to the amount of white on the screen. I then hookup the box using composite (3 cables) and s-video. The box worked fine.

I decided to take it back anyways and get one that works. Well the new box does the same thing. Any suggestions???? I called Cox and they want to send someone out but I'm never home when they they have slots open

The component hook up works fine with my PS2 set to 480p 16:9. The cable box does it no matter what the setting: 480i,p, 720p, 1080i.

Please help!!!
Did you double check the component cables when they are hooked to the box to make sure you do not have the Red audio cable hooked up where hte red video cable should be?

I am nto saying you are dumb, I have just had to double check myself when I have all five cables flopping around.

[Pete]

Thanks, Derek. There is a thread in this forum related to the 480i input problem, I think snowmoon started it. There are posts related the ATI chipset. These problems if they are also exhibited on the 7xx series may be the reason for the delays in availability. The other thread is specifically related to the 537 model.

According to reliable sources, the delays on the 7 series were first related to a gray scale problem that required a firmware mod. The current delay is due to the re-assignment of production capacity to re-supplying 5-Series and 3-Series pipelines which were completely drained on Black Friday. Mass merchants come first; then videophiles.

[iowaaudio]

According to the Olevia site the 747i weighs in at 132 pounds!!! Why is this tv so freakin' heavy? Anyone know?

[smaybee]

I assume it's largely because the big piece of glass in front of the lcd screen, discussed earlier in this thread

[indolent]

My video card is a Radeon 9600 128 MB (325 MHz core, 400 MHz memory) with 1 VGA connector and 1 DVI connector.
The DVI-HDMI cable has a DVI-D single link connector on the DVI end.

I did some more experimenting today. The 532H picture quality thread mentioned a new firmware. So, I downloaded it and installed it. The vertical line problem is still present. (The audio out shutting off with the speaker problem is also not fixed.)
I connected my 17 inch LCD via a DVI-D single link cable and the display is fine. So, it appears the video card is ok.
Has anyone sucessfully used a HDMI-DVI cable to connect their computer? The vertical line problem only shows up with color single pixel wide segments. So, it's really hard to see the problem using a video source.


I have my 542i hooked up with a dvi to hdmi cable. I haven't had a chance to try the line of pixels to see if they turn gray or not yet.

One thing I have noticed is that some dvd's and other video files will only play in black and white over the dvi to hdmi cable. If I switch to a vga cable, it plays in color just fine. Anyone else have this problem?

[dm9495]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what version of HDMI will the 7 series have when it comes out?

[Xcalibur_255]

Probably 1.1. It doesn't need 1.3 and wouldn't benefit from any of it's additional features.

At this point they might as well hold the models over until next year. That way they can launch them with the newer version of this panel with expanded color gamut and integrate a Micronas TruD HD processor as well. That would actually justify the unit's price.

[chuckdaddy]

So that means using a calibration DVD would only calibrate the tv for my DVD player (connected by component cables). I'd have to re-apply those settings for any non-component input by copying the settings I used for my component input.

I guess that's why my dvds look better sometimes compared to some HD programming.

This is on purpose, and yes you select the individual source and adjust. The reason is so that you can calibrate the display to correctly match each of your different sources. Not every source outputs video exactly the same. Some of the HD cable channels occasionally show calibration screens you can use to calibrate cable tv. You can buy calibration disks for SD and HD disc players. Other inputs you just have to eye and make your best judgement/decide what looks best to you.

[netstroller]

So that means using a calibration DVD would only calibrate the tv for my DVD player (connected by component cables). I'd have to re-apply those settings for any non-component input by copying the settings I used for my component input.

I guess that's why my dvds look better sometimes compared to some HD programming.
Copying the settings won't give you the same results unless the input signal you're copying to has the same qualities as the DVD input signal you calibrated with originally. But it would probably be a good starting point, then maybe fine tune by eye.

[redgtconv]

Vizio announced that it will be introducing a 47" 1080p lcd tv in January and it will cost under 2k. Looks like this will beat Olevia's introduction and at 1/2 the price.

[wtr_wkr]

Probably 1.1. It doesn't need 1.3 and wouldn't benefit from any of it's additional features.

At this point they might as well hold the models over until next year. That way they can launch them with the newer version of this panel with expanded color gamut and integrate a Micronas TruD HD processor as well. That would actually justify the unit's price.
Sounds good for me. I only watch hd lite or better, and improved motion is what I care about.

But, what about those that watch a lot of SD. truD's not the answer. SO's Realta HQV should be the best VP for enhancing digital SD.

Re "That would actually justify the unit's price." Silicon Optix stated that Realta’s HQV technology matches, and in many cases exceeds, the industry leading video processing seen in the $60k Teranex 3RU Xantus system.

I do not know of any "high priced" systems that include truD and I've read several post from people who did not like what truD does. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Re high end VPs in HDTVs, here's a 9/18/06 quote from Westa6969 re HQV (a bit out of context, but you'll get the point):
"Excuse me but why don't you post the PRICE of the HQV - you suggest it as if it's a freebie or something when for god's sake as a standalone it costs thousands. Perhaps if they were selling as a $20K Fujitsu but a 52" will street for $4K without this high end Video Processor. Nice Pipe Dream though. Are you going to pay the extra $2K or more on top of what the panel already sells for?

Why would you throw something out into the mix when you know it's a third party processor that add's thousands to the cost of the panel? Agree that all TV's could benefit from it as I have a pre-order on a DVDO VP50 myself but understand this market has been created to take the viewing experience to the next level otherwise the VP market would not exist - even if you buy an NEC Plasma you have to budget around $3K for that NEC Theatersync to take it to the next level.

Here's a link to products using it and the Lumagen MSRP $5999 without a TV."

[xythian04]

Greetings All,

Do any other Wii + 537H owners notice a black border encasing the viewable game space? When I had firmware B, the black border was approximately 1/4" but with firmware D it's close to 1/2".

I've set my Wii up for 16:9 and 480p (I have component cables). The 537H is setup for full screen, but it still displays the border.

Any thoughts?

[peterava]

Originally Posted by westcoastnative at 10-17-06, 01:40 PM
Olevia TV models
I have had the 537H for two weeks now. I have been very happy with it so far. I have noticed one thing that I am a little concerned about and wanted your feedback. I noticed when I am watching SD TV at night, in the middle of the picture there is a white bar that goes across the screen. Not the entire screen but only the width of the picture. It is not very bright but I can see it. Is this caused by the way the picture is filmed, an issue with the signal from the cable company or an indication of a bigger problem that I should call Olevia about. I have not noticed it in 720 or 1080i HD.

I have the same problem with some analog channels (USA, A&E, AMC, TNT etc) when i connect cable line directly to the TV.
Do any other 537H owners have the same problem? Any resolution to this problem?

[sdolen]

I have the same problem with some analog channels (USA, A&E, AMC, TNT etc) when i connect cable line directly to the TV.
Do any other 537H owners have the same problem? Any resolution to this problem?

Does it scroll from top to bottom? It sounds like a ground issue if so. I have a similar issue on my plasma and it only occurs when my caleb box is connected.

[netstroller]

I have the same problem with some analog channels (USA, A&E, AMC, TNT etc) when i connect cable line directly to the TV.
Do any other 537H owners have the same problem? Any resolution to this problem?
I have this problem with my 542i, only on some SD stations. other stations and inputs are fine. It does not vary in height, but it's brightness varies. It's size is always the same. It's position in the picture doesn't change, but it's not in the same position on the different stations.

I'm on Cox cable running straight into the TV without a cable box. And I'm using the latest firmware--actually on the unreleased yet "D" version, I'm thinking about going back to an older version to test.

[peterava]

Does it scroll from top to bottom? It sounds like a ground issue if so. I have a similar issue on my plasma and it only occurs when my caleb box is connected.

No, the white bar does not scroll top to bottom or bottom to top, it stays at the same place only appear or disappear. I have checked all my channels, there is one channel (WGBO, a Spanish channel which I don't watch), which does have 2 white bars moving from bottom to top even when I connect my cable box to the TV.

Originally Posted by netstroller
I have this problem with my 542i, only on some SD stations. other stations and inputs are fine. It does not vary in height, but it's brightness varies. It's size is always the same. It's position in the picture doesn't change, but it's not in the same position on the different stations.

I'm on Cox cable running straight into the TV without a cable box. And I'm using the latest firmware--actually on the unreleased yet "D" version, I'm thinking about going back to an older version to test.

The white bar is on different position:
Exactly the middle on USA (the worst)
1/3 - 1/4 from the bottom on TNT
4/9 from the top on A&E
I haven't upgraded my firmware yet (537-B11-060608B).
It looks to me that the firmware upgrades only fix problems with control and/or configuration of the TV.

[Ra Power]

Now they are saying that the 747i will not be available until early January.

Well I for one, am tired of waiting. Besides, I'm disappointed with Syntax on this one. My first LCDTV is a Syntax and I'm happy with it. However, their business model was a sound one when they decided to take the market by storm and release LCD's "for the masses" and looking at the projected prices of the 7 Series sets has me questioning where they're going. I truly hope they're not trying to become a "boutique brand" with the advent of these new sets, but it looks like that's what they're doing. I don't care what processor it has in it, I'm not paying at least several hundred more for ANY Syntax set when I can get a comparable Sony for much less.

[badself]

Vizio announced that it will be introducing a 47" 1080p lcd tv in January and it will cost under 2k. Looks like this will beat Olevia's introduction and at 1/2 the price.
I'm sure that for the $2K, they'll be utilizing the SiliconOptix Realta as well, right?

To Vizio's credit, what I've observed of their panels is more uniform backlighting as compared to Sony, Samsung, and Olevia.

Obvious conjecture, but I think the only possible gotcha with the 7 series will be the LG panels themselves, that in my experience fall short on backlight uniformity, greyscale, and dynamic contrast. The Realta, as exceptional a processor as it will be, can not compansate for any innate deficiencies attributable to the panel.

[redgtconv]

The Vizio 47" 1080p will be using an LG panel.

[Xcalibur_255]

I'm sure that for the $2K, they'll be utilizing the SiliconOptix Realta as well, right?
Keep dreaming. ;)

[DAC21]

"Does anyone know where I can pick up a copy of either of these instore?"


I know you don't have the time to wait to rent this, but as mentined in other threads, this can be rented from Netflix and Hollywood . I had to wait for 2-3 weeks for AVE, and I'm at 4 weeks and waiting for Avia....


I'm at eight weeks for Avia, As long as you keep paying your monthly dues, you can for all intensive purposes own the DVD as there is unlimited time to use it.

I may never see the thing. I do have AVE, but haven't used it yet, I probably should give up on the AVIA and get with the AVE

[N8YWF]

I have my 542i hooked up with a dvi to hdmi cable. I haven't had a chance to try the line of pixels to see if they turn gray or not yet.

One thing I have noticed is that some dvd's and other video files will only play in black and white over the dvi to hdmi cable. If I switch to a vga cable, it plays in color just fine. Anyone else have this problem?


I think those files and DVDs are PAL and that is why they show up black and white. I think that your DVD player doesn't convert PAL to NTSC. If you are using a PC to play these files. You should look at the settings in your DVD player software to output everything in NTSC.

If you are using a standalone DVD player. Make sure that its output is set to NTSC instead of AUTO so that it will convert PAL to NTSC. If your DVD player wont convert PAL to NTSC, then you'll need to buy a DVD player that does.

[player911]

Does anyone have older firmwares for the 537H?

I'm having a fun time trying to get past Step 2. It keeps freaking out and not completing. Step 1 works fine. But Step 2 keeps getting a firmware unknown and doesn't finish. Step 1 works like a charm though.

It seems Step 2 is taking place because the front panel buttons cease to function while its updating. It requires a complete power off to restore function of the TV.

[phipp01]

Does anyone have older firmwares for the 537H?

I'm having a fun time trying to get past Step 2. It keeps freaking out and not completing. Step 1 works fine. But Step 2 keeps getting a firmware unknown and doesn't finish. Step 1 works like a charm though.

It seems Step 2 is taking place because the front panel buttons cease to function while its updating. It requires a complete power off to restore function of the TV.


someone on another thread posted where you can get the older firmware. I thinks its in this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=757419 :)

[Buckeyefan]

So I was in HHGregg today, checking out their "family pricing" sale, and noticed they have no more 537H sets left. The rep said the 437V is replacing the 537H. It's got the same guts, but comes with a different warranty, the speakers are on the sides, and it's silver. Plus, the remote is not universal.

Is this true? The Olevia website doesn't show the 437V until you click on "other models." I'm just a little peeved that my 537H could be outdated, and it hasn't been out that long. :mad:

[Bikedorian]

Is this true? The Olevia website doesn't show the 437V until you click on "other models." I'm just a little peeved that my 537H could be outdated, and it hasn't been out that long. :mad:
What makes you think the 537 is "outdated?" What about the 437 is updated?

David

[Naylia]

They may be carrying the 437 instead of the 537, but it is not a replacement. I believe the 437 line was originally created for the Costco, Sams Club type stores as a slightly modified and in different color version.

And thinking about it, I'm not sure I know a single manufacturer that decrements the model number on the newer/better version.

[Buckeyefan]

The rep at the store said Olevia is discontinuing the 537H, and pushing the 437V. Whether I believe him or not, they are a big carrier of Olevia here and I've purchased three units over the past few years. I don't think the 437V is an upgraded model, especially due to the inferior remote and different warranty, but will say the 437V looks a little better with the side mounted speaekers. I hate the silver color FWIW.

[wtr_wkr]

The rep at the store said Olevia is discontinuing the 537H, and pushing the 437V. Whether I believe him or not, they are a big carrier of Olevia here and I've purchased three units over the past few years. I don't think the 437V is an upgraded model, especially due to the inferior remote and different warranty, but will say the 437V looks a little better with the side mounted speaekers. I hate the silver color FWIW.
Competition gets tough this time of year. They will have to cut costs and move the price down. Newer and cheaper does not always mean better.

[j8lam]

Link (http://www.ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldisplays/1206olevia/)

[stephenC]

Thanks for the link to the 747i review. I'm a little disappointed. I've been thinking of buying the 747i for my bedroom, but now I'm reading about the new Vizio 47" 1080p set. The price differential between the two is significant. I'm not really sure if I need to spend the money on a bedroom TV with HQV processing.

[wtr_wkr]

...I'm not really sure if I need to spend the money on...
A good point. No need to waste money on/if:
(1) On 1080p unless for a PC
(2) On 1080 native res unless you will sit close enough
(3) On Realta HQV unless you will be watching digital SD, DVDs or HD lite.
(Note the contradiction between "close enough for 1080 and watching SD on it. Imagine sitting close and watching SD without HQV!)

So, sit close and watching BR/HD-DVD on any 1080 TV.
Or, watch DVDs and HD lite with HQV. (And some SD.)

(Bedroom -> night time and TV at 10' -> 720 plasma ,< $$$.

[nollchr]

Link (http://www.ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldisplays/1206olevia/)
Encouraging review.

[nollchr]

A good point. No need to waste money on/if:
(1) On 1080p unless for a PC
(2) On 1080 native res unless you will sit close enough
(3) On Realta HQV unless you will be watching digital SD, DVDs or HD lite.
(Note the contradiction between "close enough for 1080 and watching SD on it. Imagine sitting close and watching SD without HQV!)

So, sit close and watching BR/HD-DVD on any 1080 TV.
Or, watch DVDs and HD lite with HQV. (And some SD.)

(Bedroom -> night time and TV at 10' -> 720 plasma ,< $$$.
(3) is the biggy for me...there is still a ton of SD programming and since I have DTV, I will be watching HD Lite as well....

[dtebh]

I have a new study. I had a TV mounted on a wall mounted swivel, but relocated it to a bedroom prior to the holidays for guests. So, now I am now in the market for a new TV, since I don't want to un-install it. Seems that now my computer monitor is also having some issues, which presents a new wrinkle.

Hence, I am considering killing 2 birds with one stone.

What are the pro/cons of having a flat screen (LCD) HDTV on my desk with PIP, that can do double duty as my computer monitor?

I am looking at 26" or 27" models, with 1600:1 contrast ratio and 1280x768 resolution as a minimum, but possibly better. I am seeing some available for $450. I purchased one at Walmart, but it did not have a PC or DVI compatable interface, so I took it back before ever turning it on.

I think I need more information before I try it again.

Thanks in advance,

[redgtconv]

So I was in HHGregg today, checking out their "family pricing" sale, and noticed they have no more 537H sets left. The rep said the 437V is replacing the 537H. It's got the same guts, but comes with a different warranty, the speakers are on the sides, and it's silver. Plus, the remote is not universal.

Is this true? The Olevia website doesn't show the 437V until you click on "other models." I'm just a little peeved that my 537H could be outdated, and it hasn't been out that long. :mad:

That's odd because I am awaiting a new 537H from Olevia to replace the one I purchased over Thanksgiving. The reason for the delay is that they completely sold out of every 537H that they had in inventory and they were awaiting the production of a new batch. Sounds to me like the sales rep was pushing the other model because he couldn't get any more 537H models anytime soon.

[Derek_HTPC]

What are the pro/cons of having a flat screen (LCD) HDTV on my desk with PIP, that can do double duty as my computer monitor?

I am looking at 26" or 27" models, with 1600:1 contrast ratio and 1280x768 resolution as a minimum, but possibly better. I am seeing some available for $450. I purchased one at Walmart, but it did not have a PC or DVI compatable interface, so I took it back before ever turning it on.
I had a 30" Olevia that I used for 2 years as a computer monitor as well as TV (using Windows Media Center). It was 1280x768 (over DVI) and was quite reasonable as a computer display, though sometimes the low resolution was a bit cramped. It was 49.8 dpi, so I sat a bit back from it (2-3 feet, but I actually like being a bit further back). Most computer monitors are between 80-100 dpi and are viewed from 1.5-2 feet. If you need more resolution, I would suggest a 37 or 40 inch 1920x1080 display (59.6 or 55.1 dpi). I saw news recently that a 32 inch 1920x1080 display (68.8 dpi) was imminent from a major manufacturer (Sharp?) but it may be Japan-only. Another option would be to get a 24 or 26 inch PC monitor (1920x1200 at 91.8 or 84.7 dpi, note that you get black bars with 16:9 content due to the extra vertical resolution), but these are significantly more expensive for their size and you need to make sure they accept DVI-HDCP or HDMI.

[Mike Lang]

Finally picked up my 532H today. This will be my HiDef picture in picture display in the theater...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/mlang2000/DualScreens.jpg

I used an Omnimount FP-CL arm and a washing machine valve box (turned sideways) to conceal a bunch of wires...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/mlang2000/ArmMount.jpg

It will also be used for people to view from the other side of the room...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/mlang2000/BilliardsView.jpg

[Wozzer73]

Now that's just slick.

[B1g Bleu]

Great set-up Mike, I just would hate to be coming out of that back room when there's a dart game going on!

[dherman516]

That looks AWSOME! I am extremely impressed

[Buckeyefan]

Mike,

Nice room. What kind of pool table is that? I have one that looks identical with camel felt. It's a Kasson.

Quick ? for all your Olevia owners. My set "tings" when it's first turned on. Does anyone else's do that? There's no issues with it, but I haven't noticed it before.

[DrBaalzamon]

My set 'tings' when i turn it on, I dont think its anything. It also makes some sound when I turn it off. Like a car engine thats warm and you just turn it off, like its cooling down. I have a 337H. Hope this helps!

-E

[Mike Lang]

Mike,

Nice room. What kind of pool table is that? I have one that looks identical with camel felt. It's a Kasson.


Thanks. The table is an Olhausen.

[mikeemusician]

My set 'tings' when i turn it on, I dont think its anything. It also makes some sound when I turn it off. Like a car engine thats warm and you just turn it off, like its cooling down. I have a 337H. Hope this helps!

-E

My 542 tings when it starts up too. It started about 2 weeks after I bought it. now the tinking sound last for about 10-15 minutes after I start it up. Plus there is a zap(snapping) sound that comes out of my speakers too every time I start it up. Does anyone know why this is?? Or how to get rid of it?

[netstroller]

My 542 tings when it starts up too. It started about 2 weeks after I bought it. now the tinking sound last for about 10-15 minutes after I start it up. Plus there is a zap(snapping) sound that comes out of my speakers too every time I start it up. Does anyone know why this is?? Or how to get rid of it?
I don't get tinking sounds but I get a snapping sound when I turn of the TV from my external speakers connected via the headphone jack. I don't know if I get this on the RCA outputs.

[redgtconv]

My 542 tings when it starts up too. It started about 2 weeks after I bought it. now the tinking sound last for about 10-15 minutes after I start it up. Plus there is a zap(snapping) sound that comes out of my speakers too every time I start it up. Does anyone know why this is?? Or how to get rid of it?

That tinging sound you describe is caused by the expasion and contraction of parts as they heat up and cool down. This is very common among all manufacturers of lcd tv's.

[Primestar31]

That tinging sound you describe is caused by the expasion and contraction of parts as they heat up and cool down. This is very common among all manufacturers of lcd tv's.

My 537H does this also at first time of turn on, and I've noticed it's louder, the colder the set is before turn on. I keep my house set at 63 degrees at night, (cold michigan) and in the morning, the tv tings louder for a second or so when turned on. I agree it's just expansion of parts, and shouldn't cause a problem. I wouldn't suggest turning this on when it was at say a freezing temp unless it was warmed up first, or you might find out what the "popcorn" effect is! But then, a lot of other electronic devices are the same way.

[Buckeyefan]

That tinging sound you describe is caused by the expasion and contraction of parts as they heat up and cool down. This is very common among all manufacturers of lcd tv's.

Then why doens't my 20" Olevia which I've had for two years ting? It's really loud on the 537H model. My parents and brother have the LT37HVS model and it doesn't ting one bit. The other things I've noticed that the LT37HVS lack compared to the 537H are the "snow" lines above the picture on some channels, and the distorted bass output when you take the bass control past 50% on the 537H. It seems Olevia went down hill with the 537H compared to the LT37HVS model. The LT37HVS also has dual tuners, which allow easy side by side picture. The 537H doesn't allow HD on one side and SD on the other. One bonus with the 537H though, is the subwoofer output. The LT37HVS doesn't have one. I wish they would have allowed two coax inputs on these sets for OTA as well as cable inputs.

[Primestar31]

The 537H doesn't allow HD on one side and SD on the other.


Huh? I use my 537H all the time, (just got it at Thanksgiving, and it's flashed to the latest Bios) and watch HD and SD side by side every day. There's something wrong with the way yours is set up. or you need to adjust what devices are on what inputs.

I have Component 1 going to a Dish 6000 putting out HD on that connection, and my Charter Moxi dvr on the HDMI connection putting out HD and SD (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i it's set to pass through whatever the channel is "pushing")., Component 2 is a dvd player, set to 480p. Coax in is a split connection from cable, Composite 1 and 2 go to separate VCR's (SD), and S-video1 goes to an FTA receiver (SD) S-video 2 goes to an SD output on the Dish 6000, which I can set to this mode, so I can record to vcr. I can watch nearly any combination of these whether they are sho