New Syntax Olevia TV models

[donrussell]

Thanks to skr8psko1021 in the Official Syntax Olevia LT42HVi Thread, I've found information about the new models

There is no information on most of these on the Syntax Olevia web site yet.

[Naylia]

too bad there's no 7-series specs up

[LCD1080]

I don't see anything there for the new Syntax 1080P model (the 742i). All that's there is 5 series. Did I miss something?

[BroChaos]

3 series and 5 series are coming out now. the ones that are listed in stock are actually correct. these literally just left the warehouse in the past few weeks. the 7 series model is still undergoing extensive testing, and will be for several more weeks. if they don't start putting up pics soon, i'm gonna have to go covert and snap a few with my cell phone :P

[Mike777]

The new 42" is only 96 lbs, instead of 120 something for the old version. I wonder if it still has the glass on the front.

[BroChaos]

i'm pretty sure the 542 has no glass. but the 742 and 747 will :(

[Xcalibur_255]

Are there any specific advantages to having glass up front that would offset the plasma-esque reflections that will result from using it? It's a rather unusual choice in an LCD.

[bc2000y]

I'm interested in the 747 so far. However, if it has the highly reflective glass screen, I may have to reconsider other options.
This is precisely the reason I haven't bought plasmas yet and waiting for LCD.

[Kirwin]

i'm pretty sure the 542 has no glass. but the 742 and 747 will :(

When I finally made my decision in favor of LCD over plasma, it was because of two main reasons:

* Burn-in resistant
* Non reflective surface

Seems like Olevia is literally 'shooting themselves in the foot' for opting with glass on their 'high end' LCD panels.

[Pete]

BroChaos,

Will the 742 and 747 have descrete IR?

[BroChaos]

they should, and they should also have full rs-232 control.

[skr8psko1021]

Does this mean that we can plug in and contol an iPod, much like Samsung's new LCDs?
Samsung sells an rs-232 to dock connector which allows you to see the ipod interface on the TV. Please confirm this BroChaos. And pictures would be amazing! :D
I don't know if I can hold out any longer: I'm about to buy the Samsung LNS3251d. The web page people need to get on the ball! Potential customers are being lost!

[lipcrkr]

When I finally made my decision in favor of LCD over plasma, it was because of two main reasons:

* Burn-in resistant
* Non reflective surface

Seems like Olevia is literally 'shooting themselves in the foot' for opting with glass on their 'high end' LCD panels.

You do realize LCD can and does burn in if not careful don't you?

[Xcalibur_255]

You do realize LCD can and does burn in if not careful don't you?

No it can't. The image retention effect an LCD can experience (which requires extreme abuse to even provoke), is totally different from the burn-in effect phosphors experience through uneven wear. The liquid crystals in an LCD panel are completely immune to this kind of effect. The image retention on LCDs is and will always be a temporary and reversible effect.

[BroChaos]

yeah, lcd's can have charge build up? i think thats what they call it.

gah, they messed up those specs on datavison....all the 3-series tv's are tunerless!!

[Naylia]

i thought the specs looked too similar to the 5 series...so the 3 series is actually a monitor then, not a tv

[goodtime11367]

I have done some research on the 532h vs the 332h. It looks like the 532h uses ATI Xillian video processors while the 332 uses PixelWorks. Plus, the dimensions on the 332 are slightly larder than the 532. Does anyone now which one is better? Also, it looks like the iDea technology no longer is being used.

[BroChaos]

yes, the 3 series are monitors only!

3 series all use pixelworks chipset.
5 series use a mtk chipset that uses ATI video processing.

[LCD1080]

When I finally made my decision in favor of LCD over plasma, it was because of two main reasons:
* Burn-in resistant
* Non reflective surface
Seems like Olevia is literally 'shooting themselves in the foot' for opting with glass on their 'high end' LCD panels.
I wouldn't be concerned about the reflectivity of the 7-series glass. They provide it with upgraded anti-reflective coatings that hopefully will obviate any potential problem:
http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/188920.html

[BroChaos]

i still don't see why it needs it. i prefer the matte look myself, plus the glass is HEAVY.

[rmb1035]

I wouldn't be concerned about the reflectivity of the 7-series glass. They provide it with upgraded anti-reflective coatings that hopefully will obviate any potential problem:
http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/188920.html
I have yet to see any "anti-reflective" coating that does a good job on any plasma or crt. They all look like mirrors to varying degrees. And most all of them advertise "anti-reflective" costings. Have you ever seen one that does a good job? If so, please let me know the mfr and model.

[Yoda1]

This ---- Syntax-Brillian's has developed two new patent-pending feature technologies that are included in the new Olevia Signature HDTVs. Big Picture Technology™ delivers up to 11% more of the digital broadcast image and up to 37% more of analog images without distortion so viewers can see more of the picture displayed on each side of the TV. Director's Image™ enables viewers to see realistic content in the same way that the director intended images to be displayed. Director’s Image features calibrated color temperature (6500 degreesK) at 2.2 gamma, red/green/blue gain controls and offsets, optimized gray scales, black level adjustment for NTSC and ATSC, full range contrast adjustment, color and tint colors for red/blue saturation and sharpness. ----- is what's caught my eye more than anything else about these sets. Sounds awesome. When are they shipping? And will Boscov's be carrying them? Too many questions!

[LCD1080]

Yeah I'm pretty excited about the Syntax 742i as well. I believe I read that they should be shipping toward the end of August. I've read comments from people at CES who saw this Syntax. They described its PQ as "film like" and were hunting for superlatives to describe it. The glass is a slight concern because I believe that the 742i will weigh about a hundred pounds or slightly more but I think I could live with that if the PQ is superior for SD as well as HD.

[MastaMind]

This ---- Syntax-Brillian's has developed two new patent-pending feature technologies that are included in the new Olevia Signature HDTVs. Big Picture Technology™ delivers up to 11% more of the digital broadcast image and up to 37% more of analog images without distortion so viewers can see more of the picture displayed on each side of the TV. Director's Image™ enables viewers to see realistic content in the same way that the director intended images to be displayed. Director’s Image features calibrated color temperature (6500 degreesK) at 2.2 gamma, red/green/blue gain controls and offsets, optimized gray scales, black level adjustment for NTSC and ATSC, full range contrast adjustment, color and tint colors for red/blue saturation and sharpness. ----- is what's caught my eye more than anything else about these sets. Sounds awesome. When are they shipping? And will Boscov's be carrying them? Too many questions!

The fact that is is "pre-calibrated" to 6500k is nice, but what's up with the Big Picture Technology? Is that their way of stating that there will be no overscan on the TV so that we can get 1:1 pixel mapping?

[LCD1080]

what's up with the Big Picture Technology? Is that their way of stating that there will be no overscan on the TV so that we can get 1:1 pixel mapping?That's a great question. I would love to connect a PC to the Syntax over HDMI @ 1920x1080 without encountering any overscan. None of the high end LCDs can do this yet.

[wtr_wkr]

I was planning on buying one without seeing it. If it's got glass, I'll have to compare it to a Sharp.

[bc2000y]

BroChaos,
Is it too late to reverse the decision on the glass to not use it?
It seems the market demand is for non-reflective screen.
By adding glass, it costs more, it weighs more, and most people hate it. Then why do it.
Thanks.

[Naylia]

With all the glass bashing...I have to say that I prefer the glass on my LT42HVi. Aesthetically it is pleasing and I find that when the tv is on reflections are minimal.

[Kirwin]

With all the glass bashing...I have to say that I prefer the glass on my LT42HVi. Aesthetically it is pleasing and I find that when the tv is on reflections are minimal.

Since when is the expression of an opionion considered bashing?

I'm glad you have found an LCD panel with a reflective surface which is aesthetically pleasing to you. Not too many LCD manufacturers offer this rare feature... enjoy!

[plschwartz]

Just saw the 537 at a price close to the 37HVS.
It looks good. But I wonder if the quality will be as good.
The older models used LG panels with s-ips. But I wonder who now is supplying the panel and what technology does it employ? I seem to remember that it will not be LG. How will the new panels compare

[bennynihon]

Since when is the expression of an opionion considered bashing?


When the opinion is negative it could be considered bashing, and if it is positive it could be considered praising. But a little negative criticism is OK if constructive. I think when he referred to it as bashing he was doing so tongue in cheek.

[Naylia]

Precisely...:)

[wtr_wkr]

Here's more GLASH BASSING!!!!

The number one reason for recommending LCD over plasma is glare - for rooms with windows that will be a problem. Dual TV/PC/game usage is next (when burn in become a valid issue.)

The Signature line is intended to compete with the top tier. Its VP is its best attribute but glare would be easier to see and, I think, more important to most people.

Now, let's cross our fingers, and get someone to volunteer to buy both a Signature and a next gen Sharp to do a comparison.

[darkeyes909]

I also prefer the glass

[Xcalibur_255]

Maybe.... just maybe, the engineers at Syntax know what they're doing and chose the glass front for a reason. Why don't we wait and see the actual tv before judging it, hmmm?

[donrussell]

I just hope the company outlasts the warranty on these new sets. Looking at the May 15 10-Q filings, Syntax-Brillian lost over $11M on sales of $45M in the previous 3-month period. They have been late to market with the 3xx and 5xx series TVs, and still have no official press announcement or web page info. The Signature series is still missing in action. Competition at the bottom end is increasing with house brands (such as Emprex). A major manufacturer could almost purchase the company out of its petty cash. There are 48M outstanding shares, and the price plunged to $2.20 last week, although it has bounced back.

[Kirwin]

Maybe.... just maybe, the engineers at Syntax know what they're doing and chose the glass front for a reason. Why don't we wait and see the actual tv before judging it, hmmm?

Why wait? What was the purpose for the glass on last year's 42" panel... hmmm?

[BoulderGeek]

I, too, have no problems (other than perhaps excessive weight) with the glass on my LT42HVi.

Love my Syntax! I compared it to the Sony Bravia 40" again today, and am so much happier with my image and $1-00 left in my pocket.

[donrussell]

Finally, an official press release HERE (http://secure.syntaxgroups.com/news/pdf/7_19_06_Olevia_357.doc) about the new 3xx, 5xx, and 7xx series. Still no specs except for the 540 on the syntaxgroups.com site.

No real news - the 5xx series is supposed to be available now and the 3xx and 7xx series will show up between now and September.

They are trying to position the Syntax brand as Tier 2, up from Tier 3 last year. Don't know how successful that will be, involving higher prices than the Tier 3 house brands, such as Initial and Emprex. A significant amount of sales could be lost to Tier 3 manufacturers, who can come in at a lower price point and may have more aesthetically pleasing sets, even though they may not have the technical innovations of the Syntax. A major problem, for me, is the lack of QAM and Cablecard tuner in any of these new models.

[BroChaos]

remember, the 540 is NOT LIKE THE REAL 3/5/7 series at all! the 540 is the same as all the OLD LTxx series!!

no clue why they chose glass. i'll try to get an answer one of these days.
big picture technology is related to overscan, you can turn it on and off, and it also relates to how we deal with line 21 (which you could not get rid of on our older sets when using a digital input).

the pricing on the new sets is the same as the old sets. no reason to buy the old stuff at all. pretty much every 3/5 series model is already available, or will be available soon. they are all approved for mass production.

the new menu system might take some getting used to, but i think you guys will LOVE the amount of control you have. they really got it right this time.

and there will be a 1:1 mode, so you can see exactly what your device is sending.

[Naylia]

and there will be a 1:1 mode, so you can see exactly what your device is sending.

so....is anyone interested in a gently used LT42HVi :)

[MastaMind]

remember, the 540 is NOT LIKE THE REAL 3/5/7 series at all! the 540 is the same as all the OLD LTxx series!!

no clue why they chose glass. i'll try to get an answer one of these days.
big picture technology is related to overscan, you can turn it on and off, and it also relates to how we deal with line 21 (which you could not get rid of on our older sets when using a digital input).

the pricing on the new sets is the same as the old sets. no reason to buy the old stuff at all. pretty much every 3/5 series model is already available, or will be available soon. they are all approved for mass production.

the new menu system might take some getting used to, but i think you guys will LOVE the amount of control you have. they really got it right this time.

and there will be a 1:1 mode, so you can see exactly what your device is sending.

This is good news indeed. :p

[bennynihon]

remember, the 540 is NOT LIKE THE REAL 3/5/7 series at all! the 540 is the same as all the OLD LTxx series!!

no clue why they chose glass. i'll try to get an answer one of these days.
big picture technology is related to overscan, you can turn it on and off, and it also relates to how we deal with line 21 (which you could not get rid of on our older sets when using a digital input).

the pricing on the new sets is the same as the old sets. no reason to buy the old stuff at all. pretty much every 3/5 series model is already available, or will be available soon. they are all approved for mass production.

the new menu system might take some getting used to, but i think you guys will LOVE the amount of control you have. they really got it right this time.

and there will be a 1:1 mode, so you can see exactly what your device is sending.

Are there manuals available online for these sets? I'm curious to see just what kind of controls are available. Thanks.

[Mike777]

I also prefer the glass While I originally thought it might bother me, I really notice reflections very little. And my apartment has southern exposure and a lot of light coming in the big picture window. The subtle glare resistent layer does help. For people with kids, the glass is darn good protection also. While I don't have kids, there were some over here on the 4th. The next day I noticed quite a few little kid sized smudges on the glass.

In my opinion, the extra weight of the glass, as opposed to the reflectivity is more of an issue.

Most of us have spent our entire life with TVs that reflect light. Honestly, has it ever really bothered you that much throughout your life?

[Xcalibur_255]

I've been reading up on Olevia's "Idea" video processing technology and it basically appears to be their answer to Samsung's DNIe video processing. My question is: can all of these "enhancement" controls be turned off or are we stuck living with some of them?

[Raistlin_HT]

Can anyone point me to a nice summary of the differences between the 3 series, 5 series, and the last years models (LT42HVi, etc).

BTW - I'm only really concerned about the 37" and 42" (maybe 32").

[wtr_wkr]

...Most of us have spent our entire life with TVs that reflect light. Honestly, has it ever really bothered you that much throughout your life?

Yes. In the kitchen, I have the TV slanted and sit to the side to keep the window out of the picture. Upstairs, I have a beach towel over the window (This really pisses off the wife.) Behind the PC monitor, I have to keep the bedroom door closed durning the day. This PC monitor tolerates much more glare than the TVs.

[wsguerin]

I apologize for this post regarding my "dinky" Syntax LT30HVS Olevia but recently we had to move it to a new location and the power does not come on reliably.

Cord and outlet have been double checked as good. Even more peculiar, the "Blue Light" came on after it sat overnight.

Is this a known problem? a quick search of this amazing forum turned up no mention of this model, which was a gift to us last year. (I believe it's still under warranty)

Ayy thoughts or a lead would be greatly appreciated.

Scott

ps: no reply from Syntax support as of yet

[skr8psko1021]

I just bought the 532H at hhgreg yesterday. They had the 527H, the 532H, and the 537H. Msrp of the 32 is $999.99 and msrp of the 537H is $1399.99. This set looks amazing!!!
I had made up my mind to by the Samsung Lns3251d and even delt with the salesman on this model, but could not see paying $500 more! I got a really good deal on the set and bought the 3-year waranty. The sets look alot better cosmetically in real life. Very classy looking IMHO.
It is a VERY light set, and is pretty thin for a bargain set. The new menu system is very nice, and there are many aspect modes, including a 1:1. It has 2 zoom modes and the text disapears! The remote is alot better and is backlit and can control 6 other devices, but I still won't give up my harmony! SD looks amazing on this TV! HD is even better! It only has 1 component input and no optical audio out which kinda stinks. The speakers sound pretty good, but I will still use my system. I really wish they were removable! And I'm not positive, but it might have a QAM. It channel searches for analog and digital channels. It found several digital channels such as 83.2 and even a few HD channels such as 93.4 in 1080i, all through a normal cable. I only have basic cable.
I might put some pics up soon! I am very pleased overall with this set! I highly recomend it to anyone!
Olevia is movin up!
Here is a web site with a little more info:
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060719005107&newsLang=en

[BroChaos]

yes, they do support qam! i didn't even know that until last week. i thought we had removed it.

so i think you are the first on this forum.

how was the picture out of the box? we should have the most technically correct calibration out of the box in the entire lcd market.

also, how do you like the menu? it's different at first, yes, but it should be really easy to use when you learn where everything is. and the amount of control you have? zoom one should crop the black bars out of a 1.85:1 movie and zoom 2 should crop the bars out of a 2.35:1 movie.

[bandshook]

yes, they do support qam! i didn't even know that until last week. i thought we had removed it.

so i think you are the first on this forum.

how was the picture out of the box? we should have the most technically correct calibration out of the box in the entire lcd market.

also, how do you like the menu? it's different at first, yes, but it should be really easy to use when you learn where everything is. and the amount of control you have? zoom one should crop the black bars out of a 1.85:1 movie and zoom 2 should crop the bars out of a 2.35:1 movie.

I'm still not clear on the differences between the 3, 5, and 7 series. Can you elaborate, please? (BTW, I bought the LT37HVS last fall and I am still thrilled with it. I'm totally sold on Olevia. Now I'm looking at replacing our bedroom TV. I really like the speakers being at the bottom of the new models, and the lighter weight.) If you could give just a list of what the differences are between the new series models, that would help me a lot. Thanks.

[skr8psko1021]

Picture out of the box is amazing! It is even better than my roommate's Sony 32" XBR LCd that he bought at the same time as me. He calibrated his using my AVIA and his does look better, but not the $700 more that he paid for it. He is a sucker for Sony! He still might take it back even though he got such a "good" deal at Fry's and exchange it for the Olevia. There is alot one can do with $700. I have not calibrated my set yet because it honestly doesn't look like it needs it. All of the sets in my house are AVIA calibrated so I am used to calibrated sets. I guess that's the "director's image". I really like the OSD wheel. It is very attractive and easy to navigate once you get used to it. I like how it only takes up a small portion of the screen. I use the Zoom 1 for letter box cable tv and full screen for regular tv and you can barely tell that the image is stretched! I guess that's the "big picture technology". I won't use zoom with dvds cause I like to see the full picture and black bars don't bother me. The picture is plenty big for my bedroom. I just bought the VGA cable for my 360 and it works flawlessly. It looks even better than component, especially on DVD because it upconverts DVDs to 1360x720. I just watched The Fifth Element Superbit and I finally have a brilliant picture to match my awesome sound. My old TV was a 4 year old 27" Toshiba CRT. I can't wait to get HD-DVD for the 360!
A few questions for BroChaos:
Does the set save picture settings for each source? Also, what is the difference between the 6500K setting and the 9300K setting? There are so many settings on this tv I hven't heard of. The included CD-ROM manual could use some work because it is for the entire 5 series and the pictures and diagrams are for the smaller sets. It also doesn't explain the settings.
I am also not clear on whether the set has Picture in Picture. THe remote has a swap button but that is the only sign I see. Answers would be greatly appreciated!
Now, everyone go out and get the new Olevias and use yer olde ones in the garage!

[BroChaos]

the 3 series is tunerless.
the 5 series is combo tuner (1ntsc/1atsc).
the 7 series is the "pro" model.

and just to emphasize my statement earlier, OUT OF THE BOX, with no adjustments made, we should have the best picture in the market. they even had a sharp, sony, and westinghouse set in the lab last week just to make sure.

the tv should save all settings independently.
the lower the color temperature, the more red your image will have. the higher the temp, the more blue it will have.

i haven't seen the manuals yet, so i can't comment there. they do have some brochures hidden on the web somewhere, just can't remember the address at the moment.

the only models that will have pip/split are the 7 series.

they made that menu wheel just for you guys :P
you can see the full screen, and it always shows you were you were before you started making changes, just in case you want to go back to your previous setting.

[bennynihon]

Thanks BroChaos. Does that mean that the 3 series and 5 series are identical except for the tuners? And if you can find those brochures...send them our way!

Thanks.

the 3 series is tunerless.
the 5 series is combo tuner (1ntsc/1atsc).
the 7 series is the "pro" model.

[BroChaos]

they are very similar, but not identical. they use different chipsets.

[Mikeoz]

Thanks BroChaos. Does that mean that the 3 series and 5 series are identical except for the tuners? And if you can find those brochures...send them our way!

Thanks.

Next time please read through the thread to try and find your info. I understand it can be a pita in a long thread, but this is only 2 pages... If everyone posts on each page "What are the specs of the 3/5/7?" This thread will be insanely long.

Your answer:


3 series all use pixelworks chipset.
5 series use a mtk chipset that uses ATI video processing.

[Mikeoz]

I'm glad to see that the Syntax line is improving. There's no question it has been one of the best bang for the buck lcd sets out there, and it looks to be staying on track..

I am a bit disappointed regarding the glass on the 7 series as well. This is most definetly a huge concern because glass has no benefit. It's heavier/more expensive/highly reflective. Durability is a moot point IMO, it's not like the tv is fragile w/o glass.

Most of us have spent our entire life with TVs that reflect light. Honestly, has it ever really bothered you that much throughout your life?

Just because we have spent our lives coping w/ certain things throughout our life doesn't mean that we should accept these vices even if better alternatives arise. That's pretty backwards thinking. I'm sure glad the inventors of the air conditioner didn't share these same sentiments when thinking of the concept..

Anyway, yes light reflecting off the screen is a HUGE pita at times. If you just happen to be lucky and not have glare good for you. We have a big 51" crt projection and the blinds have to be closed if you don't want glare driving you crazy during the day. Non-reflective surfaces are a huge positive to some people.

[bennynihon]

Next time please read through the thread to try and find your info. I understand it can be a pita in a long thread, but this is only 2 pages... If everyone posts on each page "What are the specs of the 3/5/7?" This thread will be insanely long.

Your answer:

I've actually been following along with this thread every step of the way. It's just that I don't go back and re-read every post everytime a new post is added. I either overlooked the information the first I read about it, or I simply forgot. If it bothers you that much, you can always choose to ignore me. But thanks for providing the information I was looking for!

[bennynihon]

I am a bit disappointed regarding the glass on the 7 series as well. This is most definetly a huge concern because glass has no benefit. It's heavier/more expensive/highly reflective. Durability is a moot point IMO, it's not like the tv is fragile w/o glass.

I disagree. I think there can certainly be benefit to using glass. Think of the different laptop LCD technologies. The traditional matte finished displays have a more diffuse light effect, while the newer technologies, like the Sony xbrite, use a more reflective display and produces a more vibrant image. I'm sure if done right, Syntax can achieve a rather stunning image while minimizing reflections.


I'm sure glad the inventors of the air conditioner didn't share these same sentiments when thinking of the concept.

Well, maybe it would have been good if we could have coped with the way things were in this case :-) The use of air conditioning perpetuatues the need of air conditioning with tis contribution to rising temperatures.

[jbrjake]

Besides the panel size, is there a difference between the 527V and the 532H? I'm curious why the 27" is a V when the 32" and 37" 5-series are suffixed with an H.

Also: is the ATI/MTK chipset in the 5-series qualitatively better than the PixelWorks chipset in the 3-series? And how much worse are both the ATI and PixelWorks compared to that snazzy new HQV chip that's going to be in the 7-series?

BTW, skr8psko1021, some pics of your 532H in action would be clutch =)

[skr8psko1021]

I need someone to walk me through the process of uploading pics on a forum. I move to another appartment in exactly one week and that will be the best time for pics because right now it's just sittin on a stand. If someone will tell me how I'll put up a few pics of HD and non HD pics ASAP...

[BroChaos]

ok, to clarify something i learned:

527 and 532 = ATI chipset only
537 and 542 = MTK chipset only

537 and 542 have VERY LIMITED split and PIP functions.

H = horizontal speakers, V = vertical speakers.

http://64.168.125.230/support/Syntax/Television/UserManual/

[jbrjake]

ok, to clarify something i learned:

527 and 532 = ATI chipset only
537 and 542 = MTK chipset only

537 and 542 have VERY LIMITED split and PIP functions.

H = horizontal speakers, V = vertical speakers.


Thank you muchly for the info, BroChaos (as well as for all the other knowledge you've brought to this thread). I can't believe I didn't realize V=vertical...

Okay, after checking out that very helpful user manual link, here's a nitpicky question:

The manual for the ATI models doesn't explicitly state in the text what Xilleon chip is in it. There is a graphic, though, at the bottom of page 6, for the "Set-Top Wonder Xilleon 220."

Is that graphic accurate?

Do these brand new TVs really use the Xilleon 220? I mean, I understand these aren't the flagship Olevias, but still...

ATI doesn't even list the 220 on their Xilleon page anymore. It's buried in the discontinued products directory, superceded by the Xilleon 226, which itself is getting rather long in the tooth...

Of course, I don't really know what I'm talking about. =) Does it even matter which is used? I could see it being crucial on a 1080p set, but are all these chips pretty much interchangeable at 768p? Or is the MediaTek MDDi in the 37" and 42" sets significantly better? From what I've been googling, it seems like ATI and MediaTek are just licensing older chipsets from Silicon Image...

[elgibby]

Interesting ... in the user manual for the 5 series, it says the contrast ratio for the 537 is 800:1 and the response time is 9 ms
DataVis web site lists them as 1600:1 and 8 ms...
hmm

[skr8psko1021]

The manuals are bogus. It states that there are 2 component inputs for the 532H and there is but 1. It also says that on the box it came in. I wish it had 2...
It has 1 composite, 1 S Video, 1 Comonent, 1 VGA, and 1 HDMI.
I don't care what type of chipset it uses: The picture is AMAZING! I just watched the Patriot Superbit with some friends using the Xbox 360 upconverting it to 1360x720p and people who normally don't care about picture quality were talking about this set. The colors really POP out. The blacks are really deep and don't loose a lot of detail. I've seen much worse. Also, I have played Burnout Revenge, NCAA 2007 and a few other 360 titles and haven't noticed any ghosting, and I have looked hard for it because I only have 10 days to return it at hhgreg. When everyone asks how much I paid for it, they always guess ~$1500! What they don't know won't hurt them!
BroChaos, who makes the LCD in the sets? Is it still LG?
Thanks!

[BroChaos]

it's gonna most likely be cmo or lg. i think they are cmo's right now though.

did you look at the right manual? you should be using the ATI one. i just looked briefly, and saw it mention only 1 component.

[ducky518]

BroChaos, you mentioned Limited PIP for the 5-series. What did you mean by that?
thanks

[Xcalibur_255]

it's gonna most likely be cmo or lg. i think they are cmo's right now though.

did you look at the right manual? you should be using the ATI one. i just looked briefly, and saw it mention only 1 component.

That's interesting. The quoted specs for the sets would be for LG panels. CMO's stuff is 1,000 CR across the board wheras LG is 1,600. Are they still planning on sticking with LG for the 7 series?

[jbrjake]

That's interesting. The quoted specs for the sets would be for LG panels. CMO's stuff is 1,000 CR across the board wheras LG is 1,600.
According to the PDFs of the manuals BroChaos linked to, the CRs for the 27", 32", and 42" are 1000:1. I guess those are the CMO panels?

The ATi manual does list a 26" with a 1600:1 CR, while the MTK manual has the 37" at 800:1 and a 40" at 1200:1.

[Pete]

BroChaos,

On the 7 Series the native resolution will be 1080p, but will they actually accept a 1080p input signal? Will they have 10bit color?

[Jason Bourne]

Found this.

http://olevia.starin.biz/pricing.php

New to me but maybe old news for some of you.

[Flatliner]

it's gonna most likely be cmo or lg. i think they are cmo's right now though.

did you look at the right manual? you should be using the ATI one. i just looked briefly, and saw it mention only 1 component.


So is it the 7 series which you previously mentioned where Sammy's(which I guess means Samsung panels?) First post here and anxiously awaiting my new 532H.

[BroChaos]

as of right now, the only model using sammy panels is the 540 (which is really an lt40hvi). nice panel, but i would not recommend the older stuff.

limited pip = what you get to split with what is not very controllable. ie. you can only split tuner with hdmi or vga. i don't know the exact combos at this time.

keep in mind anything i say about panels can change at any moment.

the panels are still 8bit.

and the bluray was supposed to outputting 1080p, right? that seemed to work fine. i hope it accepts 1080p...don't know why it wouldn't.

[Raistlin_HT]

So should we assume the new 5 series 42" will outperform the previous 42" model?

Better processing and features?

The actual panel though - black level, contrast, etc. is about the same though?

[Xcalibur_255]

According to the PDFs of the manuals BroChaos linked to, the CRs for the 27", 32", and 42" are 1000:1. I guess those are the CMO panels?

The ATi manual does list a 26" with a 1600:1 CR, while the MTK manual has the 37" at 800:1 and a 40" at 1200:1.

Ah, I hadn't looked at the PDF links. That's interesting then. If Syntax is shifting towards CMO then it's going to make them very similar to the comparable Westinghouse models. One of the things I always liked about Syntax was their use of LG-Philips panels. I guess they're going to have to ditch all of their advertising about S-IPS now. The spec for the 37" sounds like it could be AUO as well. Their eggs are spread into a number of baskets now it would seem.

[Raistlin_HT]

Does this mean the new 3 and 5 series will look worse than the previous ones?

[skr8psko1021]

At hhgreg they had a LT32HVE and an LT37HVS on clearance and the picture on the 5 series was infinetely better. I paid an extra $250 to get the 532H over the LT32HVE. I could have paid $200 more and got the LT37HVS. It would be crazy to buy one of the older models, even for a really good price.
I'm pretty sure it's still an LG panel because on the box it had the same specs as the LGs.
It also looks a million times better than my friends Westinghouse 32 W6.

[Raistlin_HT]

I'm more concerned about the 42" and 37" models. I know the 42HVi looked a lot better than the smaller models.

What I'm wondering is whether the 3/5 series 42" (and 37" maybe) will have as good a black level and contrast as the previous 1600:1 model?

[cburbs]

So I was looking at this model Olevia LT27HVX Black 27" and now came across this thread.

If I was to opt for the new model what are some main differences from the above compared to the new ones.

[cburbs]

I attatched the 2006 models...file to big...

http://s93005069.onlinehome.us/Home%20Theater/DIY/2006%20All-In-One.pdf

2005 models:
http://s93005069.onlinehome.us/Home%20Theater/DIY/~9205546.pdf

[cburbs]

Also at Datavision the 337H and 537H as are the 332H and 532H are priced the same right now.

[Flatliner]

Also at Datavision the 337H and 537H as are the 332H and 532H are priced the same right now.

I think the pricing might have to do with what is actually in stock. I just ordered the 532H from them which was more than $200 off retail but the 332H was not in stock and the price given was retail.

[BroChaos]

those pdfs have a lot of mistakes in them, so take them with a grain of salt. the website should be updated next week. the panels could be cmo, auo, or lg/philips. too hard to keep track. the new models look and function infinitely better than the old ones.

[cburbs]

those pdfs have a lot of mistakes in them, so take them with a grain of salt. the website should be updated next week. the panels could be cmo, auo, or lg/philips. too hard to keep track. the new models look and function infinitely better than the old ones.

What types of mistakes - I was sent those PDFs yesterday. But thanks for the info.

Decisions.....hopefully I can see some of these locally. I am going to try my local American TV to see if they carry any of these models so I can see one in person.

[MES]

does the dual combo tuners on the spec sheet for the 7-series mean 2 atsc and 2 ntsc tuners in one tv

[ducky518]

Does anybody know anything about datavis?

[BroChaos]

does the dual combo tuners on the spec sheet for the 7-series mean 2 atsc and 2 ntsc tuners in one tv

yes, that should be correct.

i'm pretty sure the pdf's list the 3 series and the 527 and 532 with split screen and pip. they do not.

the pdf's might also show the 3 series as having an RF input, but only the 323 does.

[Xcalibur_255]

At hhgreg they had a LT32HVE and an LT37HVS on clearance and the picture on the 5 series was infinetely better. I paid an extra $250 to get the 532H over the LT32HVE. I could have paid $200 more and got the LT37HVS. It would be crazy to buy one of the older models, even for a really good price.
I'm pretty sure it's still an LG panel because on the box it had the same specs as the LGs.
It also looks a million times better than my friends Westinghouse 32 W6.

My larger concern is that it doesn't vary from production run to run. Other manufacturers have done so. The distinction between who makes the panel itself isn't so clear anymore for any product. Also, the 32w6 has issues, so it's not too har d to find something that can kick it's rear.

[Xcalibur_255]

those pdfs have a lot of mistakes in them, so take them with a grain of salt. the website should be updated next week. the panels could be cmo, auo, or lg/philips. too hard to keep track. the new models look and function infinitely better than the old ones.

The specs on the 7 Series definitely indicate LG/Philips (good) so I hope it stays true. LG themselves claim a 6,000:1 contrast ratio on tvs using these panels, even though their own website for the OEM panel lists the correct 1,600:1. They also claim 6ms repsonse time which would be nice if true. LG/Philips only prodces a single model of 42 and 47 panel in 1080p resolution so either LG is lying about their own products or the specs on the panels improved and aren't updated yet. :)

[skr8psko1021]

BroChaos, what is the source VGA-Component?
I can't find out how to get something to display for that input.
The source list goes Tuner, Composite, S-Video, Component, HDMI, VGA, and then VGA-Component.
What is that source good for?

[Naylia]

I'll hazard a guess:

VGA Component is the VGA input being fed a Component style signal. Essentially a component signal is sent using certain wires in the VGA cable (since there are more then enough to handle it).

[plschwartz]

His re cent post suggests that a buyer will not be able to know what LCD panel is being used on the set purchased - AUO LG or CMO. These panels are different in design and in the picture they present. What ywhat ou see on say a demo may not be is sold to you. I spent a certain amount of time and effort and decided I wanted a set with a LG panel because of its color fidelity.
I think that for the money spent I have a right to know that a set seen or reviewed is the set I am going to take home. Instead, like Dell with say hard drives they will bid out the component on some regular basis looking for lowest price.
I am actually suprised at Bro Chaoses news as Syntax signed a long term deal with LG But now maybe they are saving LGs just for the 7xx series.
If so then I have some worries about the general quality of the 5xx series, which might then be aimed as a "house brand" for target or costco as Sams club has the Vizio (sp?)
I was ready to run out and buy the 537 but now I have to give it more thought.

[BroChaos]

when these sets list 2 components, it's really 1 physical component input. you can then buy a vga-component adapter, and use the vga input as your second "component" input.

i don't think the panels will be completely random. they have designed these sets with videophile-like calibration out of the box, and if they play around with the panels, it will mess that up. i just don't know what sets will have what panels yet.

[badself]

I just hope the company outlasts the warranty on these new sets. Looking at the May 15 10-Q filings, Syntax-Brillian lost over $11M on sales of $45M in the previous 3-month period. They have been late to market with the 3xx and 5xx series TVs, and still have no official press announcement or web page info. The Signature series is still missing in action. Competition at the bottom end is increasing with house brands (such as Emprex). A major manufacturer could almost purchase the company out of its petty cash. There are 48M outstanding shares, and the price plunged to $2.20 last week, although it has bounced back.

Perhaps their financial condition is contributing to what is beginning to look like a delayed rollout of th 742i. If this set is not out by September, I'll be going with the xbr3 or v2500 sony. The apparent lack of 1:1 on the 95 (and probably 96) Samsungs is a dealbreaker for me.

[badself]

Most of us have spent our entire life with TVs that reflect light. Honestly, has it ever really bothered you that much throughout your life?

Not since the early sixties. This is an amazingly futile way to think.

[Flatliner]

His re cent post suggests that a buyer will not be able to know what LCD panel is being used on the set purchased - AUO LG or CMO. These panels are different in design and in the picture they present. What ywhat ou see on say a demo may not be is sold to you. I spent a certain amount of time and effort and decided I wanted a set with a LG panel because of its color fidelity.
I think that for the money spent I have a right to know that a set seen or reviewed is the set I am going to take home. Instead, like Dell with say hard drives they will bid out the component on some regular basis looking for lowest price.
I am actually suprised at Bro Chaoses news as Syntax signed a long term deal with LG But now maybe they are saving LGs just for the 7xx series.
If so then I have some worries about the general quality of the 5xx series, which might then be aimed as a "house brand" for target or costco as Sams club has the Vizio (sp?)
I was ready to run out and buy the 537 but now I have to give it more thought.

I understood Bro Chaoses' coment to mean that he did not know what brand panels would be used on each exact model. Each specific model would almost certainly be designed and calibrated with only one specific panel make, particularly given what has been reported about how well the 5 series 32" panel was calibrated right out of the box.

[notreally]

Perhaps their financial condition is contributing to what is beginning to look like a delayed rollout of th 742i. If this set is not out by September, I'll be going with the xbr3 or v2500 sony. The apparent lack of 1:1 on the 95 (and probably 96) Samsungs is a dealbreaker for me.

A birdie told me, hopefully some in country in August

[cburbs]

I think the pricing might have to do with what is actually in stock. I just ordered the 532H from them which was more than $200 off retail but the 332H was not in stock and the price given was retail.

Let us know how your experience is with Datavis -

Chad

[plschwartz]

when these sets list 2 components, it's really 1 physical component input. you can then buy a vga-component adapter, and use the vga input as your second "component" input.

i don't think the panels will be completely random. they have designed these sets with videophile-like calibration out of the box, and if they play around with the panels, it will mess that up. i just don't know what sets will have what panels yet.


OK and Thanks
will stay tuned to wavs for the lastest info. Have my fingers crossed about the 537 being an lg panel :)

[Flatliner]

Let us know how your experience is with Datavis -

Chad

I just received my 532H from Datavis today. I ordered it on Tuesday and I'm located in FL so I would say thats pretty good same day shipping on their part. As for the TV, I must say it has its pluses and minuses like most anything, particularly at this price point. Physically, it appears to be very well made. I have only played with it for a few hours thus far but can already see that the "Home"(versus "showroom") calibration setting out of the box is very good overall with only minimal tweaking required. Fleshtones are very good as are neutrals and the color depth is very nice overall. I think blacks are somewhat weak which is a little dissapointing. Also dissapointing is the limited viewing angle as I can see a slight color change and even weaker blacks when viewing at just 30 degrees off axis either horizontal or verticle. I should mention that I'm very sensitive to this as I'm a Photographer and work with images every single day doing things such as color correction and matching to original artwork. I had been shopping for an LCD screen for a long time and have viewed many and the first thing I always do is move off axis to a screen and see what happens with the color and black level. The Sony's, Sharps, JVC's(Sharp Panel I think), Panasonics and even the LG's do well in this regard. The Westinghouse does poorly. This 532H is probably somewhere in the middle but closer to the westinghouse in regards to off axis color shifts and lack of a real black(which gets worse off axis). Color though is much better on the 532H than the Westinghous and probably close to the top tier brands mentioned above. I can also say that SD looks pretty decent on this Olevia compared to a lot of the lower end HD displays I have seen. Still not SD CRT quality though. The menu system is very easy to use and navigate but one thing I would suggest is to actually show a value or number along with the bar length indicator so that exact settings could be known. As it is now, there is a triangle which indicates where you are currently but moving up or down say in Brightness, Contrast, Color, etc. gives no exact figure! Also, there should be more control of the Backlight than just "Dark Room" Medium Room" or "Bright Room". Finally, the speakers are just average and it would have been nice to be able to remove them for a more elegant appearence as most people would most likely not use them at all, instead using their Home Theatre Audio system. Overall though, not bad for $ delivered. Not Sony, Sharp, ect. Picture quality but probably better than what Wal Mart sells for under 1k.

[rtrip]

I just received my 532H from Datavis today. I ordered it on Tuesday and I'm located in FL so I would say thats pretty good same day shipping on their part. As for the TV, I must say it has its pluses and minuses like most anything, particularly at this price point. Physically, it appears to be very well made. I have only played with it for a few hours thus far but can already see that the "Home"(versus "showroom") calibration setting out of the box is very good overall with only minimal tweaking required. Fleshtones are very good as are neutrals and the color depth is very nice overall. I think blacks are somewhat weak which is a little dissapointing. Also dissapointing is the limited viewing angle as I can see a slight color change and even weaker blacks when viewing at just 30 degrees off axis either horizontal or verticle. I should mention that I'm very sensitive to this as I'm a Photographer and work with images every single day doing things such as color correction and matching to original artwork. I had been shopping for an LCD screen for a long time and have viewed many and the first thing I always do is move off axis to a screen and see what happens with the color and black level. The Sony's, Sharps, JVC's(Sharp Panel I think), Panasonics and even the LG's do well in this regard. The Westinghouse does poorly. This 532H is probably somewhere in the middle but closer to the westinghouse in regards to off axis color shifts and lack of a real black(which gets worse off axis). Color though is much better on the 532H than the Westinghous and probably close to the top tier brands mentioned above. I can also say that SD looks pretty decent on this Olevia compared to a lot of the lower end HD displays I have seen. Still not SD CRT quality though. The menu system is very easy to use and navigate but one thing I would suggest is to actually show a value or number along with the bar length indicator so that exact settings could be known. As it is now, there is a triangle which indicates where you are currently but moving up or down say in Brightness, Contrast, Color, etc. gives no exact figure! Also, there should be more control of the Backlight than just "Dark Room" Medium Room" or "Bright Room". Finally, the speakers are just average and it would have been nice to be able to remove them for a more elegant appearence as most people would most likely not use them at all, instead using their Home Theatre Audio system. Overall though, not bad for $xxx delivered. Not Sony, Sharp, ect. Picture quality but probably better than what Wal Mart sells for under xk.

That's pretty impressive for the price (which will soon be censored). From my experience of owning a 32hve black levels have always been a weakness of these low cost panels while Syntax does an excellent job with their deinterlacing of SD content.

Does it have a QAM tuner? If so I suspect it will move into the lead of the discount LCD pack. It just plain looks better than it's competition.

I hope they use the USB port to provide regular firmware updates.

I'm very curious how the 7 series will handle black levels, particularly with higher quality panels.

[Flatliner]

That's pretty impressive for the price (which will soon be censored). From my experience of owning a 32hve black levels have always been a weakness of these low cost panels while Syntax does an excellent job with their deinterlacing of SD content.

Does it have a QAM tuner? If so I suspect it will move into the lead of the discount LCD pack. It just plain looks better than it's competition.

I hope they use the USB port to provide regular firmware updates.

I'm very curious how the 7 series will handle black levels, particularly with higher quality panels.

Thanks for reminding me about mentioning price. I have corrected that. The more I play with this TV, the more it impresses me. the manual mentions nothing about QAM but connecting my incoming cable directly to the tv and using the Auto cable tune function in the OSD picks up a ton of cable channels which one usually would have to pay for! Very impressive and I guess thats QAM ability. Another thing I have discovered is that by changing the "input" setting in the OSD to Standard Definition(and there is also HD, Progressive, VCR) greatly improves black levels for STD definiton(and probably for HD stuff as well). And the Standard definition quality is really very good. I'm now confident that one would have a very difficult time doing better than this set at this price point.

[MES]

Are the 7 series using the same chipset as the new Denon dvd players? If so, this may be a very impressive set

[BroChaos]

glad to see another positive review. i guess that makes it 2 for 2. i never realized that while the calibration menus are good (you know where you originally started from), it does make it difficult to share your settings with others. i'm not sure if thats something that can be added in later, but i will pass it along. it might be a long shot though, becuase you really shouldn't have to change the settings out of the box, unless you like to make non-standard personal changes. this tv's default settings are already calibrated to avia and DVE standards.

[westcoastnative]

What are the major differences between the Syntax 532H and the Syntax 537H. Is the picture quality just as good with both sets?

[Flatliner]

glad to see another positive review. i guess that makes it 2 for 2. i never realized that while the calibration menus are good (you know where you originally started from), it does make it difficult to share your settings with others. i'm not sure if thats something that can be added in later, but i will pass it along. it might be a long shot though, becuase you really shouldn't have to change the settings out of the box, unless you like to make non-standard personal changes. this tv's default settings are already calibrated to avia and DVE standards.

What I'm finding as far as the Calibration goes is that just about every HD cable channel and individual DVD Movie is slightly to majorly different. Unfortunately, they all don't go by avia and DVE standards apparently! So I'm always tweaking the settings for each source AND each channel(and even Movie). Thats one reason why it would be helpful to have a value associated with the various settings of Brightness and Contrast in particular. I seem to always be fighting to hold my details in the whites while also maintaining shadow detail AND a good Black level with the right combo of Brightness/Contrast for each Movie, Source or Channel. After seeing so many LCD sets while shopping, I think this is just one of the limitations(Dynamic Range) of ALL Panels. I should also mention that I suspect that I get more Dynamic Range(Shadow Detail to Highlight Detail) when using the HDMI versus the Component input. I am extremely pleased with this set though. :)

[westcoastnative]

Syntax-Brillian Corporation (Nasdaq: BRLC), a manufacturer and marketer of LCD and LCoS™ HDTVs and digital entertainment products, today announced the launch of a new line of cutting-edge LCD TVs under the company’s award-winning Olevia brand.

The impressive new collection of Olevia LCD TVs — consisting of the ‘3 Series,’ ‘5 Series’ and ‘7 Series’ — features world-class technology, state-of-the-art image processing and video quality that far surpasses any comparably-priced product in the market, and has been designed and engineered to elevate the Olevia brand to top-tier status among its peers. Led into the market by the Olevia 5 Series, Syntax-Brillian’s latest line of TVs is the company’s first complete product offering since the completion of its merger in late 2005.

“The new Olevia 3, 5 and 7 Series TVs feature the latest in video-processing technology and handpicked, state-of-the art components from world-class suppliers,” said Vincent Sollitto, CEO of Syntax-Brillian. “Syntax-Brillian’s expertise in TV technology, supply relationships and focus on quality in design and production have combined to create new Olevia LCD TVs that stand out as among the best in their class in the world.”

The feature-rich Olevia 3 Series LCD HDTV Ready TVs are intended for general consumer use and are ideal for displaying crisp digital programming whether received via cable and satellite set-top boxes or broadcast tuner and when displaying images from a DVD, VCR or camcorder. The Olevia 5 Series LCD HDTVs provide exceptional video and audio quality for an unparalleled high-definition cinematic experience at an affordable price, while the elegantly-designed Olevia 7 Series highlights Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) — advanced technology that redefines the ultimate home theater experience.

All Olevia 3, 5 and 7 Series LCD TVs feature new industry-leading technology innovations engineered by Syntax-Brillian to perfect video quality. Director’s Image™ technology recreates the director’s intended image through calibrated 6500K color temperature, gamma, optimized gray scales and adjustable black levels. Big Picture Technology™ shows without distortion up to 11% more of digital broadcast images and up to 37% more of analog images. Consumers can protect their investment by easily downloading firmware updates from Syntax-Brillian’s website via Olevia’s USB port to ensure that their TV will always perform with the latest features, software updates and image-quality improvements. Syntax-Brillian has also designed an easy-to-understand On-Screen Display (OSD) for selecting the optimum image attributes for any viewing environment.

The Olevia 3, 5 and 7 Series LCD TVs leverage the best performance attributes of state-of-the-art video processor technologies including Pixelworks™ DNX™, ATI Xilleon™, MTK MDDI and Silicon Optix HQV. The Olevia 3 and 5 Series models support up to 1080i resolution and the Olevia 7 Series supports 1080p. All models are designed to ensure superior clarity of lower-resolution standard analog TV channels, high-definition digital programs, VHS tape content and DVDs.

All new Olevia 3, 5 and 7 series LCD TVs also function as superior computer monitors with PC compatibility featuring up to 1366 x 768 resolution on the Olevia 3 Series and 5 Series TVs on both the VGA and HDMI inputs, while the Olevia 7 Series is capable of displaying 1920 x 1080 resolution. Additionally, RS232C connectivity and control capability allows all new Olevia LCD TV models to be used for a host of other display functions, including high-end industrial applications.

Currently shipping are the Olevia 5 Series LCD HDTVs including 27-, 32-, 37- and 42-inch models designated, respectively, the 527V, 532H, 537H, and 542i. Each Olevia 5 Series model features a high-definition native resolution of 1366 x 768 and a fast 8 ms response time that is ideal for fast-action program viewing such as sporting events and adventure films. The built-in ATSC and NTSC combination tuner provides convenient viewing of high-definition digital programs and standard analog channels. With a sharp dynamic contrast ratio of 1600:1, a cinematic 16:9 aspect ratio, and 178-degree viewing angle, the Olevia 5 Series deliver vivid colors and crisp on-screen images that can comfortably be viewed from almost any location in a room. Versatile connectivity options include PC compatibility of 1360 x 768 @ 60Hz through HDMI and VGA, and video compatibility through HDMI, HD component, composite, and S-Video inputs.

“Leveraging engineering excellence has been key to producing these new Olevia LCD HDTVs,” said Sam Miller, Chief Product Officer for Syntax-Brillian. “The powerful combination of advanced digital-image processing technologies from Pixelworks, ATI, MTK and Silicon Optix plus the leading-edge feature enhancements we’ve engineered gives Olevia consumers an unbeatable choice of high quality video performance, and — with the built-in USB-enabled upgrade capability — a solid way to protect their investment.”

Olevia 5 Series LCD TVs are available from Syntax-Brillian’s network of select national and regional retailer partners. The Olevia 3 Series and 7 Series LCD TVs are expected to be introduced to the market incrementally through September.

[badself]

Is it possible that the 742i will hit the streets in September, when according to Bro Chaos, it is still currently undergoing engineering tweaks/testing as we speak? Something about this timeline does not add up, and I do hope I'm wrong. Once the Sony's come in, I'll be hard-pressed to delay my choice several more months for this set to see the light of day.

[cburbs]

I just received my 532H from Datavis today. I ordered it on Tuesday and I'm located in FL so I would say thats pretty good same day shipping on their part. As for the TV, I must say it has its pluses and minuses like most anything, particularly at this price point. Physically, it appears to be very well made. I have only played with it for a few hours thus far but can already see that the "Home"(versus "showroom") calibration setting out of the box is very good overall with only minimal tweaking required. Fleshtones are very good as are neutrals and the color depth is very nice overall. I think blacks are somewhat weak which is a little dissapointing. Also dissapointing is the limited viewing angle as I can see a slight color change and even weaker blacks when viewing at just 30 degrees off axis either horizontal or verticle. I should mention that I'm very sensitive to this as I'm a Photographer and work with images every single day doing things such as color correction and matching to original artwork. I had been shopping for an LCD screen for a long time and have viewed many and the first thing I always do is move off axis to a screen and see what happens with the color and black level. The Sony's, Sharps, JVC's(Sharp Panel I think), Panasonics and even the LG's do well in this regard. The Westinghouse does poorly. This 532H is probably somewhere in the middle but closer to the westinghouse in regards to off axis color shifts and lack of a real black(which gets worse off axis). Color though is much better on the 532H than the Westinghous and probably close to the top tier brands mentioned above. I can also say that SD looks pretty decent on this Olevia compared to a lot of the lower end HD displays I have seen. Still not SD CRT quality though. The menu system is very easy to use and navigate but one thing I would suggest is to actually show a value or number along with the bar length indicator so that exact settings could be known. As it is now, there is a triangle which indicates where you are currently but moving up or down say in Brightness, Contrast, Color, etc. gives no exact figure! Also, there should be more control of the Backlight than just "Dark Room" Medium Room" or "Bright Room". Finally, the speakers are just average and it would have been nice to be able to remove them for a more elegant appearence as most people would most likely not use them at all, instead using their Home Theatre Audio system. Overall though, not bad for $ delivered. Not Sony, Sharp, ect. Picture quality but probably better than what Wal Mart sells for under 1k.


Thanks for the info....still not sure if I should go with the 27 or 32" but not sure what tv I am replacing first - bedroom 20" or Family Room 36" tube tv....

[darkeyes909]

I agree. The 7 series is my first choice at this point. But for the price being so close, I will wait until the user reviews are in for both of them. I understand that the price is subject to change on the 742i. Really anxious to see the actual sets and compare them.

[notreally]

Thanks for the info....still not sure if I should go with the 27 or 32" but not sure what tv I am replacing first - bedroom 20" or Family Room 36"
tube tv....

The 527v has side mounted speakers making it 5" wider but 10" shorter than the 532H. It also comes with a non illuminated unified remote. The press release on the LGPhilips panels mentioned the sizes LGPhilps manufactures.

[RADMANK]

WHATS THE BEST GUESS FOR THE 47 INCH AS FAR AS PRICE? When does it get released?

[n4fw]

Looks like the 532H doesn't have an SPDIF audio output jack. Can anyone confirm this?

[ExCavTanker]

It's surprising that there's been almost no mention of what I consider THE addition to the Syntax Series 7 that will make it worth waiting for, the integration of the Silicon Optix HQV chip. This video processor chip is talked about extensively in the VP section of AVS. What I'm really curious about is how much of the chip's capabilities they will use, also the chip is going through some growing pains in the Vantage HD processor (being adressed through updates). But clearly the two big dogs in this arena (VP chips) are the Silicon Optix HQV and the Gennum VXP. IMO everything else is old school compared to displays using this VP chip. I for one hope that Syntax exploits the full horsepower this chip is capable of.

[Flatliner]

Looks like the 532H doesn't have an SPDIF audio output jack. Can anyone confirm this?

No SPDIF. Just R and L RCA and an earphone jack for Audio out.

[315carter]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is QAM?

[Flatliner]

Thanks for the info....still not sure if I should go with the 27 or 32" but not sure what tv I am replacing first - bedroom 20" or Family Room 36" tube tv....

Your welcome. Since my initial review post, I have been wathing this TV constantly and the more I watch it, the more it impresses. The color is really fantastic. I was just looking at some of my prior top picks(money no object) in BestBuy today such as the Sony and Panasonic and can honestly say that this Olevia is right up there as far as color reproduction goes. I have not even had to mess with the out of box Color settings! The Panasonic and Sony had a better black level and the Panasonic in particular also maintained good detail in those deep blacks but that is really the only thing I can see that this set gives up to those much more expensive sets. Price wise, I think the 32" sets are in a sweet spot offering much larger displays for very little more than the 27" sets. In my viewing room I sit about 8 feet or so from the display and the room is fairly small. In a large room, I would definately go with something larger though.

[Flatliner]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is QAM?

I believe its the ability to decode unencrypted cable channels through a direct cable connection to the TV which allows one to tune and view them.

[cburbs]

Price wise, I think the 32" sets are in a sweet spot offering much larger displays for very little more than the 27" sets.

Exactly why I am not sure since the price difference is a tad over $100 between the two.
Still have to sell some stuff off to fund one of these sets.....

[315carter]

I believe its the ability to decode unencrypted cable channels through a direct cable connection to the TV which allows one to tune and view them.

Thanks Flatliner.

[n4fw]

hhgregg's website now lists the 527V and 537H, but Datavision is considerably cheaper.

[StuartLittle]

My dad has one of the older cheapo 37 inchers from Syntax and loves it. I'm not sure how easy it is to build a premium line when you are known for bargain basement pricing, but if the TVs are comparable to other panels that just cost 2x as much, it can only be good for the consumer.

[Orbus]

I was all ready to buy an LT42HVi when I found out it doesn't have QAM. Dealbreaker. :( Especially combined with some of the other niggling issues this set seems to have. Pity, because I really did like it at the store. Guess I'll have to wait around and see where the price for the 542i goes, and how it stacks up once people start getting them. I actually kind of liked the glass. Definitely made me feel more secure about the tv...

EDIT: BroChaos - some questions about the 542i:

1) Just double-checking - the 542i does have QAM like the other 5 series, right?

2) Does it have SPDIF digital audio out? Is the tuner capable of receiving 5.1 audio from tv, for output to a receiver? These are both pretty important to me as well.

3) When can we expect availability?

[wtr_wkr]

It's surprising that there's been almost no mention of what I consider THE addition to the Syntax Series 7 that will make it worth waiting for, the integration of the Silicon Optix HQV chip. This video processor chip is talked about extensively in the VP section of AVS. What I'm really curious about is how much of the chip's capabilities they will use, also the chip is going through some growing pains in the Vantage HD processor (being adressed through updates). But clearly the two big dogs in this arena (VP chips) are the Silicon Optix HQV and the Gennum VXP. IMO everything else is old school compared to displays using this VP chip. I for one hope that Syntax exploits the full horsepower this chip is capable of.

HQV is THE reason many of us are waiting for the 7 series.

[badself]

HQV is THE reason many of us are waiting for the 7 series.

The optix realta may be the only reason to suffer through a glass front lcd. I can't imagine any glass screen will provide adequate anti-reflection at this time.

[BroChaos]

all of the 5-series should have qam support, but it will not be something that is "officially" supported as of right now.

the reasons for the glass on the 7 series are:
1. reduce the light coming through to help with black levels and contrast.
2. aesthetically pleasing to many people, and more durable than plastic.

the AR coating is supposed to be state of the art, and unlike anything that is being used in the market right now.

[darkeyes909]

In my opinion, another plus is that Syntax are on this board and hearing us. Anyone seen Sony around here lately?

[Xcalibur_255]

Sony is a thousand times bigger company. Literally. If they had reps like this it'd turn into a large budget mess and in the end nothing would get communicated to where it would help anyway.

[wtr_wkr]

In my opinion, another plus is that Syntax are on this board and hearing us. Anyone seen Sony around here lately?

They do not have time. They are playing Monopoly.

[ExCavTanker]

all of the 5-series should have qam support, but it will not be something that is "officially" supported as of right now.

the reasons for the glass on the 7 series are:
1. reduce the light coming through to help with black levels and contrast.
2. aesthetically pleasing to many people, and more durable than plastic.

the AR coating is supposed to be state of the art, and unlike anything that is being used in the market right now.

If the AR coating is anywhere near as good as the stuff on my Wife's glasses I think it will be fine.

BroChaos,

Could you update us on my earlier post re: The S.O. HQV chip (or should I say possibly the Reon VX) as being implemented by Syntax in the 7 Series. If I'm correct that the new sets will be able to be updated via USB, that bodes well for any firmware changes as it releates to the Realta/Reon chip. One thing I'm hopeful is that some of the issues being experienced by the outboard processors will be a non-issue as the chip will be dialed in to work directly with the tv set.

[BroChaos]

yes, these sets should be supported a lot better then our previous models. they are easily upgraded by usb. i believe with the 7 series, you just need a regular usb-a to usb-b cable and a usb port on your computer. i'm not involved with the video testing, but i know we had guys in here from S.O. and ATI, fine tuning everything, so most major issues should be taken care of.

[Orbus]

BroChaos: Great to hear from you, and glad to hear about qam support, even in an "unofficial" capacity. What about my other questions? Specifically about 5.1 sound and release date? I believe I heard the new 532 has no digital audio out... :( Maybe the 542 does, being an upscale model?

I'm kind of itching to buy a tv right now, and despite my leeriness of plasma, they're starting to look awfully appealing right now. Help change my mind! :)

[bennynihon]

BroChaos: Great to hear from you, and glad to hear about qam support, even in an "unofficial" capacity. What about my other questions? Specifically about 5.1 sound and release date? I believe I heard the new 532 has no digital audio out... :( Maybe the 542 does, being an upscale model?

I'm kind of itching to buy a tv right now, and despite my leeriness of plasma, they're starting to look awfully appealing right now. Help change my mind! :)

If we heard an attractive price for the 7 series I think that'd change all of our minds.

[tsheley]

So just so that I understand the 532H has the following...

1 HDMI
1 Component
1 Composite
Supports QAM for unscrambled digital cable. So that means I can plug my cable in and get the unscrambled HD Locals correct?

Thanks,

[Flatliner]

So just so that I understand the 532H has the following...

1 HDMI
1 Component
1 Composite
Supports QAM for unscrambled digital cable. So that means I can plug my cable in and get the unscrambled HD Locals correct?

Thanks,


Yes on all plus VGA and S-Video and a really nice feature is the 1 to 1 pixel option to see exactly what the source is sending the display. I don't currently use the RCA Audio out of the TV, but what is still unclear is if it provides anything other than a mixed Stereo out(not Dolby). The older sets did not provide Dolby out due to licensing so it would be great to get a definative answear on this from BroChaos.

[Flatliner]

A queston for BroChaos or anyone who might could shed some light on this. I just purchased an Oppo V971H and I'm trying to calibrate it to the Syntax 532H via the HDMI input. I know BroChaos has mentioned that this set is calibrated to DVE Avia Standards and I don't doubt it. Now the Oppo is known for a slight Macroblocking issue in solid tone dark grey/black areas. The Oppo rep tells me that this will actually go away with correct calibration of the set to the Oppo and that the Set I'm using may not be doing something called 7.5 IRE Black which the Oppo uses. What does this mean and how is the Black adjustable on the Syntax 532H? Is this some setting beyond just Contrast/Brightness? Any help would be appreciated.

[Flatliner]

Nevermind the question above. It apparently is just a matter of adjusting Brightness to control Black level. North America NTSC is standarized with 7.5 IRE and most of the rest of the world is O IRE if I'm reading things correctly. So, the picture might look brighter or darker in the dark tones if both the input(DVD Player) and Output device(TV) are not set for the same black level. So, I'm guessing that the Syntax is indeed set for 7.5 IRE if its DVE calibrated and the OPPO rep was just giving me a bit of the run around(Turn down the brightness to "Mask" or cover up the Macroblocking errors of the DVD player.) I had tweaked the brightness Up some on the Syntax to acheive better shadow detail which I guess shows more of the Macroblocking.

[mikea28]

is there a webpage with specs somewhere? i saw the pdfs, but those are kind of a pain to go through.

[Flatliner]

is there a webpage with specs somewhere? i saw the pdfs, but those are kind of a pain to go through.
There are specs at datavis.com

[tsheley]

There are specs at datavis.com

But they don't seem correct. Don't they say 2 component hookups?

[mikea28]

There are specs at datavis.com
thanks!

[bennynihon]

But they don't seem correct. Don't they say 2 component hookups?

which is correct since the VGA can be used as a 2nd component input.

[tsheley]

which is correct since the VGA can be used as a 2nd component input.

I was not aware of that. Learn something new everyday.

Thanks.

[plschwartz]

I called Syntax tech support who told me that all the 5 series panels were s-ips which means LG. So now all I have to decide is between the 32 and 37 screens. The former is in a sweet price spot at DV

[LCD1080]

At what B and M Stores will the 7-series be on display later this month?

[Mike777]

which is correct since the VGA can be used as a 2nd component input.

Here is one at buycom:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10342823 This used to be about ten dollars cheaper, so I doubt this is the best price. monoprice probably has something like this.

[Orbus]

Datavision is reporting the 542i "in stock". :) Now, how long before I can see one in the store?

[5150Joker]

Which B&M stores besides CompUSA will be carrying the new Syntax tv's? Yesterday I went to BB, Frys, Target, Costco, Walmart, Staples, Office Depot and CompUSA and the latter was the only one to have Syntax Olevia's and they were the older ones. I don't feel comfortable ordering online since I'd like to have the option to return the tv set if I don't like it. When I asked one of the BB guys if they had any Syntax Olevia tv sets or were expecting any he gave me a funny look and said, "I haven't seen that brand in years!". I hope the company starts pushing their new models to a lot more B&M stores if they want any decent market penetration because there are consumers like me out there that simply won't purchase your product no matter how good it is if it's only available online.

[Raistlin_HT]

You could also check if any of the B&M stores allow in-store returns from online orders. That way, when something like Target, etc. starts offering the new series of Olvevia's online, you can make the order, worry-free, even if your local store doesn't actually stock it.

[Orbus]

AFAIK, the only B&M stores that carry the Olevia line are Compusa and Microcenter. Target carries them in their online store, but I don't think they have them in the brick and mortar locations. Possibly some of the smaller sets. I know the LT42HVi was online only from Target.

[tulong]

hi guys, I have a question. please forgive my ignorance :p
I have the OPPO OPDV971H divx player which has a DVI output for digital video. This tivi has HDMI for video input so my question is: will I be able to hook my OPPO 971H divx player tp this tivi ? thx

[jpopking]

hi guys, I have a question. please forgive my ignorance :p
I have the OPPO OPDV971H divx player which has a DVI output for digital video. This tivi has HDMI for video input so my question is: will I be able to hook my OPPO 971H divx player tp this tivi ? thx

You will need a DVI to HDMI cable to hook it up. You can get it from monoprice for a reasonable price.

[elgibby]

Another B&M store that carries Olevia is American Furniture & Appliance, they got a dozen stores or so in the Midwest. The Web site has only the 532H. Sunday's ad supplement has several of last year's models on closeout, so maybe the new sets will be available in-store soon. http://www.americantv.com

[Mike777]

hi guys, I have a question. please forgive my ignorance :p
I have the OPPO OPDV971H divx player which has a DVI output for digital video. This tivi has HDMI for video input so my question is: will I be able to hook my OPPO 971H divx player tp this tivi ? thx

My Oppo came with both a DVI/DVD and a DVI/HDMI cable. So don't buy the cable until you know for sure if you need it.

[petehead]

...is the ATI/MTK chipset in the 5-series qualitatively better than the PixelWorks chipset in the 3-series?

Has anyone weighed in on this? I am looking at the 332h and 532h and I can't get reception of any kind in my area, so I don't need the tuners. It looks like my decision will be made solely on the ATI Xilleon vs. Pixelworks DNX processing.


Pete

[Orbus]

Another B&M store that carries Olevia is American Furniture & Appliance, they got a dozen stores or so in the Midwest. The Web site has only the 532H. Sunday's ad supplement has several of last year's models on closeout, so maybe the new sets will be available in-store soon. http://www.americantv.com

I just looked and the 542i is on their website now. :) I dunno though, for the price difference, I'm tempted to just buy an LT42HVi and then buy an external tuner with QAM. I'd still come out ahead on price I think. I would like to evaluate the 542i before I make up my mind for sure though...

[tulong]

My Oppo came with both a DVI/DVD and a DVI/HDMI cable. So don't buy the cable until you know for sure if you need it.
thx. i'm still waiting for the tivi to arrive. hopefully it'll get to my house on MOnday in good condition :)

[Naylia]

I just looked and the 542i is on their website now. :) I dunno though, for the price difference, I'm tempted to just buy an LT42HVi and then buy an external tuner with QAM. I'd still come out ahead on price I think. I would like to evaluate the 542i before I make up my mind for sure though...

If you plan on ever connecting a computer the 1:1 pixel map option on the new version is probably worth the money (myself being a LT42HVi owner with an HTPC connected). Also they've improved the zoom and their are some minor issues with certain settings not saving properly. I'd go read the LT42HVi thread all the way through.

[elgibby]

I checked out American TV in the St. Louis area Sunday, found only one new model, the 532, but it was sitting in a side room, not hooked up, with a bunch of "open box" displays. Gotta say it looked a lot classier, for lack of a better word, than the current designs.

Sales guy said he doesn't expect the 537 until Sept. (he was just guessing) and I forgot to ask about the "7" series.

American has a 15-day return policy, btw, not as good as Costco, obviously, or BB/CC.
I also called Costco about the "5" series and rep said there is nothing about Syntax/Olevia in their computer.

[Xcalibur_255]

Has anyone weighed in on this? I am looking at the 332h and 532h and I can't get reception of any kind in my area, so I don't need the tuners. It looks like my decision will be made solely on the ATI Xilleon vs. Pixelworks DNX processing.


Pete

Depends upon what you're watching on the set as far as source components go. There are multiple Pixelworks chips, but the common one is the 318 which I've never been impressed with. If your primary source is a dvd player or such and you have confidence in it's performance you don't need to worry quite so much about the scaler in the tv then. Cable or OTA will still be mediocre though.

[petehead]

Thanks for the input. Maybe the ATI Xilleon will be better than what you have seen with the Pixelworks. I'm curious if the 5 series only has the ATI because it can handle the tuner aspects as opposed to being better at scaling, deinterlacing, etc.

I personally would use my computer to output DVD, but would need to entrust the TV's processing to handle the HD Cable box and video games.

Pete

[Devg76]

I purchased the 532h from Datavis but I have a few techie questions. I have my HDTV cable box (8300 HD) and a Sony upconverting DVD player both using HDMI connected to it.

1) 6500 color setting (current) vs 9300. What does this mean and do?

2) Aspect ratio settings are Aspect/Full Screen/Panoramic/1:1 mode (current setting). I know they all stretch or enlarge the picture except for Aspect and 1:1 mode. I am confused as to the difference between 1:1 and aspect. Which should it be on?

3) My new sony upconverting DVD player...I am not sure if the TV does this automatically?? What I mean is if there is an option on the Sony should it be set ON or OFF (because the TV does it alread)

4) Trying to do this off memory so hope I am right...there is an "input mode" setting and I have on HDTV. What does this do?


I would be thankful for any advice and answers thanks :)

[Flatliner]

I purchased the 532h from Datavis but I have a few techie questions. I have my HDTV cable box (8300 HD) and a Sony upconverting DVD player both using HDMI connected to it.

1) 6500 color setting (current) vs 9300. What does this mean and do?

2) Aspect ratio settings are Aspect/Full Screen/Panoramic/1:1 mode (current setting). I know they all stretch or enlarge the picture except for Aspect and 1:1 mode. I am confused as to the difference between 1:1 and aspect. Which should it be on?

3) My new sony upconverting DVD player...I am not sure if the TV does this automatically?? What I mean is if there is an option on the Sony should it be set ON or OFF (because the TV does it alread)

4) Trying to do this off memory so hope I am right...there is an "input mode" setting and I have on HDTV. What does this do?


I would be thankful for any advice and answers thanks :)

I have the same set and Cable box.

1)This is the color temperature of the image. Lower temp, warmer. Higher temp, cooler(bluer). The Standard for watching Movies and so forth is 6500 which this set is calibrated for.

2) 1:1 shows exactly what is being sent to it by the device your watching. Aspect will enlarge this to fit the screen(If it does not already) in one dimension without any distortion(I think). Zoom 1 will zoom the image to fit the screen in both dimensions cropping off some of the image in one dimension. If watching 4:3 normal cable, using Aspect will enlarge the image so that it fits the screen Vertically but you will still have black on both right and left. Using Zoom 1 will fill the screen completely but you will be cropping top and bottom of image. Widescreen will distort the image without cropping. I never ever use that setting. I always start with 1:1 and then Aspect to fit one dimension and then Zoom 1 if I want to fill the screen. Play around with the Aspect button on the remote and you will get a feel for what is going on.

3)The Sony will most likely do better scaling up to 720. I would set the Sony for that and then use Aspect to fill the screen Horizontally with black bars on top and bottom with most Movies. I have found the TV does a good Scaling job in general but not as good as a dedicated device such as a DVD Upscaling player.

4) I believe the input mode is simply pre-made calibrations(Brightness, Contrast) for each type of device. Try them. If you change the Brightness, ect. yourself, you will then be in the "User" vs one of the other presets such as "Progressive" or HD or SD TV. For instance, setting this to Standard Definition TV will give you much deeper blacks with Non HD cable channels.

[phipp01]

OK I am taking it the new 37" 5 series is better than the lt37hvs. thats no problem even though the new models were released when I was going to buy the old model. But to get a better TV for 250 bacon JR. cheeseburgers more than what I can find the old one is it worth the then extra money and time to wait for the 7 series 37"? And what are the extra bells and whistles on the 7 series compared to the 5 series in the 37" category? I have NO PROBLEM waiting for either version or paying more for the 7 series. I will be buying by the end of september. And the only decision now is the 5 or 7 series or the old lt37hvs which I can get cheaper. Any input would be greatly appreciated

[Pete]

From what I understand the 7 Series will be sold through specialty av resellers and custom installation firms. I wouldn't expect to see them in big box stores or mass merchants.

[Raistlin_HT]

Is there a 7 series 37"? I thought it was only a 42" and 47"?


Among other things, the main claim-to-fame for the 7 series is the video processing (HQV).

[Flatliner]

OK I am taking it the new 37" 5 series is better than the lt37hvs. thats no problem even though the new models were released when I was going to buy the old model. But to get a better TV for 250 bacon JR. cheeseburgers more than what I can find the old one is it worth the then extra money and time to wait for the 7 series 37"? And what are the extra bells and whistles on the 7 series compared to the 5 series in the 37" category? I have NO PROBLEM waiting for either version or paying more for the 7 series. I will be buying by the end of september. And the only decision now is the 5 or 7 series or the old lt37hvs which I can get cheaper. Any input would be greatly appreciated


I ended up buying the newer 532 5 series but had planned on getting the Lt37hvs in the beginning and did a lot of research on that set(though I have never seen one in person). MY research on this Forum seemed to show that the older series had great hardware but that the software side of things was not really refined or there yet. Some things just do not work correctly with those sets. By contrast, at least on my 532, the software side of things seems to be very refined and thought out and there are many thoughtful new features such as the 1:1 pixel mapping and the new On Screen Display system. The lighted remote is also very nice and intuitive. Plus, things like Auto tuning of QAM channels just work right. Also, just compare the weight and depth of the newer sets to the older ones! The newer ones are much thinner and lighter. I also prefer the speakers on the bottom personally. Do the olde sets have an HDMI connection? I think thats a big deal these days and for the future.

[sg999]

Datavision are now reporting the 537H in stock. Couldn't wait any longer so I've ordered one. I'll post back here if there are any delays beyond the promised 3-5 business days ground shipping time.

[tulong]

Datavision are now reporting the 537H in stock. Couldn't wait any longer so I've ordered one. I'll post back here if there are any delays beyond the promised 3-5 business days ground shipping time.
well, i order the 532H on 7/31 and it hasn't arrived yet :( hope it'll be here tomorrow. I should have chosen the 2 day air delivery though huh/

[Raistlin_HT]

Can anyone confirm ... is there supposed to be a 37" 7-series model?

[sg999]

Can't really confirm much about the 3, 5 or 7 series models. The only mention of them is in the press release! The products section still only has the 'old' product line.

Does anyone else find this odd?

[Orbus]

If you plan on ever connecting a computer the 1:1 pixel map option on the new version is probably worth the money (myself being a LT42HVi owner with an HTPC connected). Also they've improved the zoom and their are some minor issues with certain settings not saving properly. I'd go read the LT42HVi thread all the way through.

I have read it. :) Hmm, and you are correct. Although there were conflicting reports about the settings saving thing, etc. Sigh... there are just some good deals on the LT42HVi available right now, but you're probably right. PC use it one of the main reasons I want to get it, so 1:1 mapping would be a big help. I just hope they really have improved the software side of things and there won't be any crazy software bugs. Too many of these budget sets seem to do a pretty good job on the hardware, but then fall down on the software side of things. Guess it's time to play the waiting game some more. :rolleyes:

Can't really confirm much about the 4, 5 or 7 series models. The only mention of them is in the press release! The products section still only has the 'old' product line.

Does anyone else find this odd?

The lack of updates to the website does not exactly inspire confidence, no...

[BroChaos]

don't even think about touching the old sets if you want to use a pc with it.

there are no plans for a 737 at this time.

website is supposed to be updated on the 12th. then again, it was supposed to be updated on the 2nd so....we'll see. does the link to the pdf data sheets still work?

[cburbs]

does the link to the pdf data sheets still work?

Yes and that is post #81.

[Raistlin_HT]

Can't really confirm much about the 4, 5 or 7 series models. The only mention of them is in the press release! The products section still only has the 'old' product line.

Does anyone else find this odd?

Wait ... is there a 4 series now too? Or did you mean 3 series?

[buzzard767]

Datavision are now reporting the 537H in stock. Couldn't wait any longer so I've ordered one. I'll post back here if there are any delays beyond the promised 3-5 business days ground shipping time.

I ordered a 537H from J&R but they don't have any in stock yet. Good price though. :)

[sk007]

Hi, guys

I just ordered my 532H from datavision website, and it's still on the way. This is my first LCD TV, and I'm new to this kind of stuff. I was wondering if there is any wireless adapters out there that could connect my desktop PC to this TV and use it as a monitor, and also use my speaker system that comes with my Sony home theater system (which includes a dvd player and a set of 7.1 speakers) when I play video/audio on my PC? I don't need something too fancy, so budget and simple solutions are preferred.

Thanks for any input.

[bennynihon]

Wait ... is there a 4 series now too? Or did you mean 3 series?

How gullible are you? First you believed it when someone goofed and mentioned a 37" 7 series, and now you've fallen for the mistake of a 4 series. You know I'm just kidding with you. :)

[snowmoon]

Could someone with a 532H please post a review including how the ATI chipset does with interlaced materal ( sometime confused with ghosting ). I am also interested in the ease and accessability of the OSD and DTV tuning.

Thanks in advance.

[sg999]

Wait ... is there a 4 series now too? Or did you mean 3 series?

Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'll never do that again. Of course I meant 3 series. I'm drunk with anticipation over the 6 series I just ordered and can't type properly. :p

[Flatliner]

Could someone with a 532H please post a review including how the ATI chipset does with interlaced materal ( sometime confused with ghosting ). I am also interested in the ease and accessability of the OSD and DTV tuning.

Thanks in advance.

I posted a review a few pages back which you can read. In short, I'm very happy with the 532H. Color depth and reproduction is great and the OSD menu system is very good and easy to use as is the remote. The auto tune mode for QAM cable works great and found a ton of channels. I have not tried over the air tuning yet. In my opinion, the only thing this set looses to say the top of the line Sony or Panasonic at almost twice the price is a real deep black level and the lack of as good an off axis viewing angle. Standard Definition looks as good as it does on the better top end LCD screens, HD looks incredible. With a non progressive scan older DVD player and relying on the ATI chip to do the de-interlacing, I do see some very slight persistant image/ghosting problems. Solution is to get a decent Progressive Scan upressing DVD player for $100 or so if it bothers you. Other than that, I never ever see this with Cable channels.

[BroChaos]

actually, there WILL be a 4 series...
it will be very similar to the 5 series, but it's for a specific retailer, who wants to be different than the rest. they are not out yet.

[bennynihon]

actually, there WILL be a 4 series...
it will be very similar to the 5 series, but it's for a specific retailer, who wants to be different than the rest. they are not out yet.

Hmm...sounds like a Costco or Sam's Club type thing. They always have special versions of many products.

[Pete]

5 is a bigger number than 4, so it must be better! :)

[tsheley]

Can anybody give me an insight to Datavis? I check some reviews and they don't seem very good. How is the experience from the folks here?

Thanks,

[Naylia]

Noticed while crammed into an airplane seat that Skymall has the 3-series for sale...descriptions are not accurate (they all have the 42" description) but titles and prices seem to match each other.

http://www.skymall.com/webapp/skystore?process=prodDisplay&action=productGrouped&pid=102166170&catId=10272

[notreally]

don't even think about touching the old sets if you want to use a pc with it.

there are no plans for a 737 at this time.

website is supposed to be updated on the 12th. then again, it was supposed to be updated on the 2nd so....we'll see. does the link to the pdf data sheets still work?

We will try too link our site to Olevia when the site is updated with the new models. An interesting press release that a large assembly plant was to open in Ontario, California for LCD and LCoS models.

[stephenC]

Hmm...sounds like a Costco or