View Full Version : How do you provide surge protection for a wall mounted plamsa/lcd?


CarbonCrew
07-12-06, 11:18 AM
I just recently purchased a 42" LCD for my new home. While I wait for the closing date I've been trying to prepare myself for the HTS install. Today I got myself wondering about surge protection. How in the heck do you do it for a wall mounted tv? The only solution I can come up with is installing a surge protector in the attic and then make an 'extension' from the surge protector that runs through the wall to a receptacle. Is there a better solution? Also I'd like to have the option of running a UPS if I find that my power subpar.

crisms98
07-12-06, 11:33 PM
Check out the MAX IN-WALL™ POWERKIT-TL AUDIO/VIDEO product of Panamax.

You need a to plug the other end to a surge protector and the other will mate with the plasma. Hope this helps.

Colm
07-13-06, 01:14 AM
Leviton and all the other major manufactures make surge suppressors that take the place of a standard duplex receptacle.

jjthompson
07-13-06, 04:44 AM
i have a UPS from one of my old PC's which i use for my 35" LCD - maybe you can do the same thing: plug your LCD there (and of course plug the UPS to the wall... lol)

video321
07-13-06, 09:13 AM
Your idea of an "extension cord" is on track. However, I wouldn't run anything to the attic. Where is the source equipment located? I'd run the line to that location, where you could also use a UPS as you wanted. The panamax unit is overpriced for a job that could be done yourself. The surge protecting receptacle is an excellent option, but won't give you any way to use a UPS.

UFCen2000
12-17-06, 09:25 PM
Check out the MAX IN-WALL™ POWERKIT-TL AUDIO/VIDEO product of Panamax.

You need a to plug the other end to a surge protector and the other will mate with the plasma. Hope this helps.


That kit retails for ~300. It is 2 eletrical boxes (with appropriate connections) and an eletrical wire running between. IMNSHO, no way can the parts themselves be worth $300. However, if you use that system with a Panamax _____ unit, then your warranty is still valid.

An email to Panamax asking about using extension cords (or the like) to extend a cable from their unit to a location 10' ft away went something it like "It will void the warranty"

So.. for the 300 you are paying for the actual hardware and their warranty coverage. So, for even the 4300EX, it takes the price of the system north of $500.

I'm sure the receptacles and and power lines can be bought and purchased for much less.... anyone like to give a list?

Chu Gai
12-18-06, 07:59 AM
Step 1: Install a whole house system or rent one from your local power utility. That provides a good, solid, perimeter defence for all the appliances in your home.

Step 2: For a clean, neat, and unobtrusive device that provides secondary protection, look into devices that incorporate a surge suppressor right at the outlet. They're a little pricey IMO but don't have aesthetic drawbacks.

R_Willis
12-18-06, 12:04 PM
Smarthome

item #865131

kcabhsalf
12-18-06, 12:45 PM
or something small like this
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=P1T
I wish I could find one of those with cable protection as well..

Its APC, so it should be good quality, and its pretty small

mrtybalt
12-18-06, 07:03 PM
Here's a link to a very high quality inwall conditioner:

http://www.psaudio.com/products/soloist_overview.asp

Chu Gai
12-18-06, 07:55 PM
What protection does the Soloist offer?

UFCen2000
12-19-06, 06:53 AM
Step 1: Install a whole house system or rent one from your local power utility. That provides a good, solid, perimeter defence for all the appliances in your home.

Step 2: For a clean, neat, and unobtrusive device that provides secondary protection, look into devices that incorporate a surge suppressor right at the outlet. They're a little pricey IMO but don't have aesthetic drawbacks.

I agree Chu... I think anyone here interested in real surge suppression should start at the service feed or distro panel for the whole house. All the major electrical equipment manufacturers offer units that are easily affordable (compared to surgte suppressors/line conditioners) and protect the whole house. While one is at it, an electrican should also check the resistence of the earth ground outside the house. In consideration of whole house surge supression do not overlook cable, telephone dish, CBs (etc, etc)... anything that comes into your house.

IMO, your whole house can be protected for a few hundred dollars. In this context, the cost of surge supression per device goes way down. But do not completely discard all of your POU (Point of Use) surge protectors just yet..... it is still wise to use them. Be aware of the difference between the MOV and Seris mode supressors...... for my piece of mind, I have a series mode style surge supressor protecting my A/V gear.

Last, look into using better receptacles at the outlet. They are easy to install and can greatly increase protection. I try to point out the alternatives to people with regards to surge surpression; there are many other ways to tackle the problem and issues without spending hundred or thousands of dollars on very expensive POU equipment.

Surge supression to an electrican and a AV junkie are viewed in completely different ways. In general, electricans point to whole house supression, good earthen ground, proper wiring and upgraded receptacles. AV junkies point to POU power surpression/line conditioning units seeking protection and "clean AC power" for their gear (amps, speakers, RPTV are the hot topics).

Chu Gai
12-19-06, 10:35 AM
For the amounts of money AV junkies are prone to spend, thousands in some cases, a couple of hundred first spent at the service entrance goes an awfully long way at mitigating some really awful scenarios.

UFCen2000
12-19-06, 09:32 PM
For the amounts of money AV junkies are prone to spend, thousands in some cases, a couple of hundred first spent at the service entrance goes an awfully long way at mitigating some really awful scenarios.


QFT

hstshawn
12-20-06, 08:45 PM
Running the cord through the wall is a big no-no as far as electrical code goes. From what I've been told, the shielding on most electronics' power cords is not safe for in-wall use. That would mean you would need to have a wired electrical recepticle behind the set, or use a paintable raceway to the floor where it could run to one. I have seen a monster brand unit that was built to fit on the wall behind the set hidden.

Unless I missed something. :)

shawn

3000GTCSULB
01-03-07, 12:47 PM
Call a pro? Thats what Im doing cause I dont want to put my hands on electrical work!!

vail3100
05-13-08, 10:18 PM
Dude this is easy. Use a powerbridge unit. You can get it at RAM or on their website. Really easy to install. All you need is romax. Then you plug right into your surge protection. Now all you equipment is surge protected and you didn't need an electrician. Only a $60 kit and $10 worth of romax. I think there is a demo video and pictures posted here somewhere and on utube

Giant Robot
05-14-08, 02:05 PM
Dude this is easy. Use a powerbridge unit. You can get it at RAM or on their website. Really easy to install. All you need is romax. Then you plug right into your surge protection. Now all you equipment is surge protected and you didn't need an electrician. Only a $60 kit and $10 worth of romax. I think there is a demo video and pictures posted here somewhere and on utube

this is what i did

Chu Gai
05-15-08, 01:31 AM
Dude, the guy asked the question almost 1 1/2 years ago. :D

turbe
05-19-08, 02:43 PM
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