If you are a rush fan and haven't seen or heard about the new DVD - replay X3 - you are at a lose. The new DVD is amazing! Worth every minute i spent watching it. I recently received the DVD at my internship at universal and was excited to get something from a band that I loved. It is a 3 disc set with a bonus CD soundtrack with bonus material that has never been released. CHeck it out and let me know

Just got this for Christmas. Awesome! I've been watching R30 since my birthday, and loving it as well. Show of Hands has always been a favorate of mine, now to have it on DVD, DTS to boot! I was taken way back when watching Exit Stage Left. When we first got cable in the early 80's, Tom Sawyer was the first video I ever saw on MTV, before it sucked. It was from Exit Stage Left.

What a great collection!

RUSH ROCKS!

I'll be picking this up this coming weekend!!

It's too bad that Rush can't produce a single DVD with good audio quality.

Ed

It's too bad that Rush can't produce a single DVD with good audio quality.

Ed

You mean, instead of a box-set?

You mean, instead of a box-set?
No. I mean that every DVD that Rush has put out is poor AQ and Rush in Rio is probably about the worst AQ there is of any concert DVD.

Haven't heard R in R. I've only really begun listening to concert DVD's. New system has been inspiring me to build my concert collection. I thought R30 sounded pretty good. Replay is in DTS.

What are some good concert DVD's in your opinion, soundwise?

What are some good concert DVD's in your opinion, soundwise?There is a thread on this forum called "concert DVD recommendations" that you should read - it's been around for a long time and is now extremely long. A new one recently showed up and is called something like "what are your 2 favorite concert DVDs".

When asked about "good" concert DVDs it's hard to separarte between really good audio quality (and of course there is video quality but I'm much less picky here) and just good AQ from favorite performers. For example "Standing in the Shadows of Mowtown" has some of the best AQ - but the disk is a documentary and the music is not my cup of tea. Boz Scaggs is also top quality and I like some of his music. Roger Waters Live in the flesh is very good both AQ and music wise, IMO. Heart - Alive in Seattle is another. Other pretty good ones are Music for Monserrat, Yes- House of Blues, BB King Live by Request, Roy Orbison Black & White Nights. There are probably more if I looked thru my collection, but IMO, 95% of the concert DVDs fall into poor or real bad AQ.

Ed

Roy Orbison B&W is simply amazing AQ!!! The DTS track is unreal!!

It would seem that many artists may just be getting around to taking advantage of what DD and DTS has to offer as far as concert DVDs go. Hopefully they'll all come around.

I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, so I plan on getting the Roger Waters- In the Flesh DVD. Thats not the first time I've seen that one mentioned.

Thanks for the input!

I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, so I plan on getting the Roger Waters- In the Flesh DVD. Thats not the first time I've seen that one mentioned.
If you are a PF fan then the David Gilmour in Concert DVD is also worth getting. The AQ is also quite good. David's performance is outstanding on this one. BUT, there are only a few PF songs and more of his solos which largely aren't as good IMO. There are also some other weird quirks on this one - but the good stuff more than makes up for getting it.

Also the Pulse concert was released a few months ago - it's PF without Roger Waters. The concert is real good but the AQ is just mediocre.

Ed

Rush just doesn't know how to make something w good AQ.
The need to keep Alex Lifeson away from the board when any recording or mixing
is being done.

Rush just doesn't know how to make something w good AQ.
The need to keep Alex Lifeson away from the board when any recording or mixing
is being done.

How do you figure?

How do you figure?
Apparently Alex is typically involved in the production of their DVDs. Since Rush has some of the worst audio quality DVDs, we figure he is at least partly responsible.

Ed

The production on his solo album Victor would bear that out to a large degree. He's pretty much entirely responsible for that and it's pretty squished. Although it's not nearly as bad as, say, Vapor Trails or the RiR DVD. Actually, I like a certain rawness of sound for rock like Rush- the late 80's/early 90's albums got WAY too clean- but Vapor Trails was a disaster. Personally I'm fine with the sound of R30- it's not meant to sound like a studio recording. You have to make do with a lot in a live recording situation, I know, I've done five of the things. Any big rock show like that that sounds too nice has been mostly re-recorded *cough cough Pink Floyd Roger Waters cough* Rush has been bitten hard on the ass by the Master It LOUD bug though.

Re-recorded? Eh, no. They record more than one night. but usually only 2 or 3, at the same place.

The problem with Rush Live in Rio, is they only bought one nights worth of audio recording, and a major storm got the best of their audio team. But ... they released it anyways (sigh)

Re-recorded? Eh, no. They record more than one night. but usually only 2 or 3, at the same place.

Don't be naive :D Heck, there's documentary footage of them doing it on the old Pompeii disk. I'm not saying it's top to bottom; good technology and being tight from touring make it a lot easier to get good recordings these days- but things generally still need to be tweaked a lot.

Pompeii wasn't a concert, it was a film, there was no audience. Also Fred, wasn't that, um 35 years ago? :D

They did have to use rehearsal footage of Sinead O'cconner for the Wall live in Berlin show, becausethe girl bailed on them :)

Semantics. It was a presentation of the band in a live setting, under what at the time would have passed for some one the most controlled situations possible apart from being outside- no audience, as you say, a mix and soundcheck 100% devoted to multitracking and not a FOH mix and still there were things that had to be corrected to create the document the wanted to have. Sure, things have improved a lot in the intervening years but recording even a show as technologically advanced as Waters/Floyd is rife with gremlins, and I don't necesarily mean performance- levels fluctuate, things buzz, settings and patches don't quite change how you want and everything bleeds into everything- and when you get all that stuff in Protools under a microscope, you fix- OR, if you're like Rush, you probably don't and you get a sound rather like Rush In Rio!

If you are a PF fan then the David Gilmour in Concert DVD is also worth getting. The AQ is also quite good. David's performance is outstanding on this one. BUT, there are only a few PF songs and more of his solos which largely aren't as good IMO. There are also some other weird quirks on this one - but the good stuff more than makes up for getting it.

Also the Pulse concert was released a few months ago - it's PF without Roger Waters. The concert is real good but the AQ is just mediocre.

Ed

I know I'm going off topic a bit here, but I thought the AQ on Pulse was above average. Back to the OP's topic, I can only hope that this Rush DVD has better AQ than their previous ones. I have R30 and thought the AQ sucked big time.

I know I'm going off topic a bit here, but I thought the AQ on Pulse was above average.
Don't be fooled by the special effects. It seems that there was a lot of tinkering "after the concert" to add all kinds of special effects sounds that are clear and clean and mixed with lots of surround presence. It can easily fool you. But listen carefully to the original vocals and instruments. They are quite compressed and very mediocre. Once you see through the tricks it's a disappointment.

Ed

In a way, I find it a bit Ironic, that a Band that seemed to be just slightly ahead of other bands in the technological realm,(real or perceived) lighted stage shows, with the big screen images behind them, (before it became mainstream) and with many songs with references to the future, cant seem to get a good up to date reference quality Concert DVD :p

I have yet to see the R30, but in theory it should be the best, as it was shot in HD. Has it been released on HD-DVD yet?

I do have the RIR DVD, and still consider an old bootleg to be my best footage of them so far, so I guess that backs up the criticism being placed here.

It escapes my mind, but I believe it is either Alex`s or Geddy`s brother who plays a large part in the production of these DVD`s.

I do love the latest RUSH effort song wise, but Vapor Trails was very poorly produced. On my car stereo it is much harder to notice, but on my Home stereo, and when I try to play along on the Drums, its all a big garbled mess.

It is Ged's brother.

Well, sometime in the next four or five months, we will be listening to a well produced (let's hope!) new Rush CD :D