I Love My Hd A1, However, I Believe Not Allowing Hd Discs To Resume From Were You Either Turned Off The Player Or Are Entering Into The Setup Menu And Not Being Able To Start Were You Left Off Is A Glaring Oversite Either By Toshiba Or The Studios. Blu Ray Is Able To Do This. Why Not Hd Dvd?

Funny I just asked that very question here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8069751&&#post8069751

Perhaps we can get an answer that makes sense without some hidden meaning. :)

It has nothing to do with the player itself. The resume feature works with all of my homemade HD-DVDs. It has something to do with the way the studio's are mastering their discs. I thought I read somewhere that it was encryption related.

Marc.

If In Fact, This Is The Case Then We Should Make More Noise To Pressure Studios To Allow Resume. It May Not Seem Like A Big Deal At First. But Can You Imagine Spj Finding Out That He Will Have Start A Movie All Over Again. It Is Like Going Backards In Technollogy

I Love My Hd A1, However, I Believe Not Allowing Hd Discs To Resume From Were You Either Turned Off The Player Or Are Entering Into The Setup Menu And Not Being Able To Start Were You Left Off Is A Glaring Oversite Either By Toshiba Or The Studios. Blu Ray Is Able To Do This. Why Not Hd Dvd?
I've heard that people are using the bookmark feature to remedy this need. i think they said you hit the B on the remote?

Doesn't bother me much, just press the menu button, scroll through the scenes, and push select. takes about 10 seconds. :D

Its Not As Annoying As Trying To Read A Post Where Every Word Is Capitalized... ;)

You'd think a player can easily get past whether or not the studios have mastered a disc for resume-play.

All it has to do is remember one time position - if only temporarily - and allow the resume button to start play from that point. Hardly rocket science and yet one of THE most important aspects of a player.

The bookmark feature is a pain in the butt - it takes a fair amount of navigation to be able to bookmark and not all movies/studios support that feature either.

My RCA does resume. In fact I did it last night. We were watching Reddick and I hit the power button to go eat dinner and it completely turned off (Red Light on Fron Appeared). When we came down from dinner, I just hit play and after about 60 seconds, it started from where we left off.

~Josh

Hmmm, I'll have to try that....

My RCA does resume. In fact I did it last night. We were watching Reddick and I hit the power button to go eat dinner and it completely turned off (Red Light on Fron Appeared). When we came down from dinner, I just hit play and after about 60 seconds, it started from where we left off.

~Josh

So this is infact, a result of Toshiba and not just the studios. Toshiba should provide this feature in a firmware update if it is possible.

Didn't work for me on my XA1 - at least not with Million Dollar Baby.

Its Not As Annoying As Trying To Read A Post Where Every Word Is Capitalized... ;)


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It would be nice but the Secene Selection during Playback makes up for it. Bookmark, I know is up to the Studios and so far I think only Warner Bros. is taking advantage of it...!!!

I thought Resume feature was about the player...both of my Sony DVD players have it...listed this in their Features....!!!

Its Not As Annoying As Trying To Read A Post Where Every Word Is Capitalized... ;)

Amen to that!

I think Resume/Last Memory is a signficant feature that people expect and want. I do. Blu-ray has it and HD-DVD needs it. If or when the fur-mat war heats up, lack of it will be a liability. I certainly hope that second generation players have it.

I'll second the want for Resume. Especially since there is a specific button called "Resume Play" on the remote. And BTW it does work for SD-DVDs, just not HD-DVDs. So I don't know if a Firmware update would fix that. Must be disc related.

Its Not As Annoying As Trying To Read A Post Where Every Word Is Capitalized... ;)

I didn't find that annoying but I did think, "That must have been a bitch to type that like that! :eek: "

Doesn't bother me much, just press the menu button, scroll through the scenes, and push select. takes about 10 seconds. :D
10 seconds from a full stop until you are scrolling through the scene menu? :eek: Is that a 3ed or 4th G player you have and what model and brand is it? :confused:

The lack of a resume is making me consider going Blu-ray.

The lack of a resume is making me consider going Blu-ray.

OMFG! :rolleyes:

Why would you want to sacrifice better picture quality because of lack of resume? :eek:

Oh and better sound to! :eek:

I think Resume/Last Memory is a signficant feature that people expect and want. I do. Blu-ray has it and HD-DVD needs it. If or when the fur-mat war heats up, lack of it will be a liability. I certainly hope that second generation players have it.


HD DVD does have it.. it is up to the studios to enable it on the discs.. WB seems to think bookmarks are a better choice, since they are stored in persistent memory..

While the lack of resume is a weird choice, mandatory features is one of the benefits, IMO, that HD DVD has... Every player MUST decode the advanced audio codecs, have internet connectivity, have persistent storage, support iHD, integrate streaming content, dual HD stream decoding and mixing, etc.. in order to have an HD DVD logo on the front...

Follow the link to read about the HD DVD spec.. there is some cool stuff that we haven't even begun to see yet...

The HD DVD Spec PDF (http://www.dvdforum.com/gen-reqspec.htm)

You can't get the same info from the Blu Ray Group.. they prefer to keep it away from prying eyes :cool:

HD DVD does have it.. it is up to the studios to enable it on the discs.. WB seems to think bookmarks are a better choice, since they are stored in persistent memory..
Bookmarks maybe a "better choice" but, why couldn't they provide both options? Does it really add that much time or cost in creating the disc to enable resume? This bookmark reason may work for WB but what about Universal and Paramount who don't allow either resume or bookmarks? No resume is the single most annoying and my 1 disappointment with HD-DVD.

The lack of a resume is making me consider going Blu-ray.

Right.....and I think I'll switch to blu-ray because the shade of gray on my A1 is a little to dark.

A year from now if all the Blu-ray players have Resume, likely, and HD-DVD don't it could hurt. People like and expect a resume function. If the software evens out, better ergonomics could sway the war...? I got rid of one of my early DVD players precisely because it didn't have resume and I got sick of losing my place accidentally.

Gotta agree, the lack of a resume playback option is assinine.

Kind of strange but I noticed today that when my 1 year old was playing with the remote and turned on one of the special features on PoTO. I was a little irritated because I was watching it (well listening to it mostly) to check for skips etc but after watching the extra she "selected" for about 10 minutes I decided to go start the movie back where I was and continue the scan. I hit resume movie and it started playing back exactly where she hit the extra feature. This to me is MUCH cooler than a resume feature from stop

A year from now if all the Blu-ray players have Resume, likely, and HD-DVD don't it could hurt. People like and expect a resume function.

You're kidding right? Besides the fact I've never used "resume" in my life. When I played Batman Begins last night I said to *&ll with blu ray and its pathetic attempts. HD DVD is delivering in huge spades now and I assure you a resume feature would not be at the top of any list worth mentioning. Lossless audio and pristine pq would be.

Gotta agree, the lack of a resume playback option is assinine.

Bookmarks maybe a "better choice" but, why couldn't they provide both options?


Once again everybody... they do have both oprions. How was I nor clear on this.

Petition the studios.... it's not a format issuse.

WB Home Video Comments Page (http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/main/help/whv/customer_service.jsp)

Universal Home Video Comments Page (http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/contact_form.cgi?email_id=10)

Paramount Home Video Commets Page - NOTE: Poastal Only or Via Phone (http://www.paramount.com/studio/contact.htm)

You're kidding right? Besides the fact I've never used "resume" in my life. When I played Batman Begins last night I said to *&ll with blu ray and its pathetic attempts. HD DVD is delivering in huge spades now and I assure you a resume feature would not be at the top of any list worth mentioning. Lossless audio and pristine pq would be.

Stop thinking like a film zealot and try to project into the mind of an average, sheepish consumer. That's the context of my comment and thinking.

this is my #1 complaint by far, it's really simple, when you hit stop, it would be nice to hit play and continue where you where, I thought this was basic fundemental stuff :confused:

guess not

my first gen POS 800$ RCA DVD player did this

my D-Theater VCR's do it :D, and it the Sammy BR does it then sweet

I agree with Rachael, this is a HUGE oversight whatever the issue is

I tend to agree with it being a VC1 issue, why ? because everything that is VC1 doesn't resume, everything that is mpeg2, resumes with the onscreen message

HDNet Mpeg2 HD-DVD's resume, extras that are mpeg2 resume and homemade mpeg2 HD-DVD DVD-R's resume, it think it is related to mpeg2 vs VC1

whatever it is, it pisses me off :mad:

-Gary

Interesting observation Garry. Does anyone have a Samsung BD player too see if VC1 BDs can resume? Does anyone use the HD-DVD PC drive and can it resume? I find it kinda funny that the more technology advances, the more difficult the most basic features become.

my first gen POS 800$ RCA DVD player did this

my D-Theater VCR's do it :D, and it the Sammy BR does it then sweet
whatever it is, it pisses me off :mad:



Once again.. your A1/XA1 does it... some disc's don't.

I was in the room when Amir answered this question at his get together..

Have fun with all the bellyaching.... I give up :rolleyes:

Once again.. your A1/XA1 does it... some disc's don't.

I haven't encountered one yet, I don't think. Do you know a specific title that has it?

The point is, Resume needs to be idiot-proof and E-Z just like it is with today's DVD players and BD players. If a reg-lar Resume can be instituted, why, oh why, wasn't it on the first disc issued?

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Once again everybody... they do have both oprions. How was I nor clear on this.

Petition the studios.... it's not a format issuse.

WB Home Video Comments Page (http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/main/help/whv/customer_service.jsp)

Universal Home Video Comments Page (http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/contact_form.cgi?email_id=10)

Paramount Home Video Commets Page - NOTE: Poastal Only or Via Phone (http://www.paramount.com/studio/contact.htm)
This lack of resume is FRICKIN irritating. WTF?!?!

I just don't get why anyone would remove this feature, considering that it's standard with even $25 DVD players these days, and is one feature that is EXTREMELY popular.

I wish one could simply override the no-resume setting on these discs.

P.S. Are they actively locking it out, or is it because it would take work to implement it? Either way, it should be there.

P.P.S. Is there no bookmarking feature with Pitch Black? I can't find one. So with Pitch Black, I can't bookmark or resume. Tres stupide.

One more vote for making resume manditory. I mean, jeez, my VHS deck can do it! :rolleyes:

Speaking of annoying encoding practices: can the studios refrain from making their warnings and company logos at the head of each disc unskippable? I understand the legal obligations, but PLEASE allow us to move along more quickly upon subsequent viewings of the disc. These segments increase the start time of each film by minute at least, on top of the minute and a half waiting for the player to boot and load.

End of rant. I had to do something while my disc was loading.

P.S. Are they actively locking it out, or is it because it would take work to implement it? Either way, it should be there.It sounds like it might be due to the complexity of HDi. So, you get more functionality in some ways (like U-Control), but the resume goes away. I think they need to find a way to get it back for more average people (these formats want to go beyond just the early adopters) and should make this a priority. At this point resume works on Blu-ray with my Samsung (I can come back a couple of days later to start a movie that is in the player and it will startup and go from where I left off) and I hope it doesn't go away with more advanced menus and things.

BTW: I recall that somebody told me that stop and resume worked on the XBOX360 add-on, but I haven't plugged mine in yet.

--Darin

The absence of a resume function is one of my biggest problems with HD DVD, as compared to BD. Another is the horrible Toshiba remote. To me, the absence of a resume function is inexcusable.

Ergonomics / potential issues are the reasons I dumped my HD-A1.

Here are my top 10 HD DVD G1 (HD-A1) issues:

1. Too slow load time

2. Too many people were starting to develop drive problems out of no where

3. Lack of Resume feature.

4. Perhaps it was my user error, but it seemed everytime I went to 'set up' during a movie, the disc was forced to start from the beginning again...

5. No Discrete OFF command.

6. No picture (not even 480i) from the composite output while plugged into a HDMI device. This, for me, is needed as I have an LCD display in my seating console where I can use the video from composite to see volume level, surround mode, etc...Not even a blue screen from the composite when HDMI is engaged.

7. Occassionally, when i turned it on, the player would forget the HDMI res and I would have to play with the V.Resolution button. Only a small irritant for me, but if my wife was trying to play a HD DVD, that bit of trouble shooting would be beyond here and she'd forget it all together.

8. Firmware upgrades for many here introduced new problems in fixing others.

9. LFE / audio issues at the set up issues in the analog set up section. Speaker placement is too limiting in terms of distances (at least in my set up).

10. Lack of a signal out of the composite video output prohibits the use of a video sensing device present on my remote control. A blue screen or some sort of video signal allows the remote CPU sensor to know the status of the power status of the player at all times, So, for example, accidentally hitting the player's power button won't toggle it off when you want it powered on.


So, I am waiting on G2 to see if these are all addressed....

I recall that somebody told me that stop and resume worked on the XBOX360 add-on, but I haven't plugged mine in yet.
Stop and resume is supposed to work on all HD DVD machines (incl. the 360 drive). It depends on the disc.

Filmixer thanks. I sent e-mails voicing my opinion on the resumeless HD DVDs they've been stamping out. I couldn't find the phone number for Paramount though.

You can resume a movie after hitting stop on the HD DVD drive for the 360. I treid it on about 4-5 movies and it worked like a charm.

Yes but what happens when you turn it off? That's what people are complaining about. The "Bookmark" feature helps, but not every HD-DVD has this feature.


Note to studios : EVERY HD-DVD SHOULD HAVE BOOKMARKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't see why Resume is such an important feature. I have never used it, and no one I know uses it to my knowledge. When I sit down to watch a movie, I watch it all the way through. If I need to take a break, I pause it. If I need to stop it, chapter select is not a big deal at all. Really, how is this a top issue? I think the majority of people couldn't care less.

Well not everyone has the opportunity to sit down and watch entire movies. I watch lots of tv shows like 24 or South Park and use Resume a lot. I'll watch a few episodes at night until I get tired and pick up where I left off on another night.

I don't see why Resume is such an important feature. I have never used it, and no one I know uses it to my knowledge. When I sit down to watch a movie, I watch it all the way through. If I need to take a break, I pause it. If I need to stop it, chapter select is not a big deal at all. Really, how is this a top issue? I think the majority of people couldn't care less.
I have to agree. I don't remember ever using resume on my SD players. I guess if you do a lot of start/stop it could be an issue. *shrug* Certainly wouldn't keep me from buying a player.

I have to agree. I don't remember ever using resume on my SD players. I guess if you do a lot of start/stop it could be an issue. *shrug* Certainly wouldn't keep me from buying a player.

In the early days of DVD I passed on that really nice Elite model that didn't have resume, a feature their budjet models had. I went for Panasonic and Sony models that gave me the ergonomics I wanted.

I get tired, the phone rings, the bloody film is too-oo long, ka-ka-ka-kong, I accidently hit stop. Resume happens, except with my Toshibas.... ;) Esta es malo....

I don't see why Resume is such an important feature. I have never used it, and no one I know uses it to my knowledge. When I sit down to watch a movie, I watch it all the way through. If I need to take a break, I pause it. If I need to stop it, chapter select is not a big deal at all. Really, how is this a top issue? I think the majority of people couldn't care less.
This is a top issue for many, many people, as this thread illustrates.

I was COMPLETELY SHOCKED that HD DVD didn't include it. I mean it's such a basic feature, and one you find on $25 DVD players these days. It's considered the standard, and one feature that lots of people expect.

But Toshiba has always been very bad about including it even on its SD DVD players. I rejected several of their higher end SD players years ago because they didn't include it--I have a lot going on and I frequently can only get through half a movie before I have to get on to something else (though I avoid this if I'm reviewing it). For some reason, Toshiba doesn't think it's important.

They're very, very wrong.

I'm pretty sure my Toshiba DVD player (SD5900?) had resume, altough I think it worked differently than the Sony 7000 player I had before (just hitting power vs stopping and hitting power, something like that). My final DVD player purchase, the relatively high end Denon 2900 does not have resume which did bother me. I have not tried to resume with the Toshiba HD-A1 yet, but now I know since this thread has popped up.

Studio Canal titles apparently support resume, according to some posts at AVS.

it's not the player, i was watching a sd dvd last night and hit stop by mistake and a message came up telling me to push play to resume from the point where i was when i hit stop.

it's not the player, i was watching a sd dvd last night and hit stop by mistake and a message came up telling me to push play to resume from the point where i was when i hit stop.
Yes, I guess you missed it (posted elsewhere): On SD DVD it depends on the player, but on HD DVD it depends on the disc. Unfortunately, no big name North American movie HD DVDs include that feature, even though it's present on a few other releases apparently.

Yes, I guess you missed it (posted elsewhere): On SD DVD it depends on the player, but on HD DVD it depends on the disc. Unfortunately, no big name North American movie HD DVDs include that feature, even though it's present on a few other releases apparently.

must have missed it, i don't read these threads daily and i don't care about the resume feature either. i ever used it on sd dvd and remember the little message getting on my nerves the first time i saw it on sd dvd.

I'll second the want for Resume. Especially since there is a specific button called "Resume Play" on the remote. And BTW it does work for SD-DVDs, just not HD-DVDs. So I don't know if a Firmware update would fix that. Must be disc related.
I can't get it to work on my A2. I've been hitting the Resume Play button over and over again with disc 4 of X-Files season 1.

I never realized how much I took resume play for granted now that I don't have it and I have to go through the stupid FBI warnings and other intro crap EVERY TIME I turn off the player mid-disc. :(

I never have used the Resume button. If I go to watch a movie then I watch it and about the only pause is to get another Beer or a bathroom break for someone.

You know, the resume button doesn't work, but I tested something last night...I finished and episode and when the end credits started, I just hit the power button.

After it finished shutting down, I hit the "Play" button and the player came back on. It started up EXACTLY where it left off. :)

So it looks like there IS a resume function on the A2 with SD DVD as long as you power-on/start-up using the play button. w00t!

My number one complaint when watching HD-DVD movies on my HD-A1 is the lack of resume. My old Sony DVD player had multi-disc resume, it would remember up to 25 discs (think that was the number). A godsend when watching multiple TV series box sets and switching between discs. The A1 will remember the current SD-DVD, but I've had situations when I've had to eject an HD-DVD from Netflix to clean it, and it's a pain to navigate to where the movie was stopped.

The Samsung resumes, but it was irritating to discover that the PS3 does not. :mad:

Toshiba resumes with the Heart (Live in Seattle?) disc - shocked me. Then again, that disc didn't have an interactive menu.

Personally, if that's what makes the dif, I'd be fine with static menus.