Go to your setup/display options and turn off scrolling, that should help speed up the guide (only if you have the most recent update) - If you just got it installed, give it about 48 hours or so and it should get the new software. Also, I'd suggest telling it only to output 720p and 1080i and turn off the 480i/p modes, that may speed up chanel surfing.

Go to your setup/display options and turn off scrolling, that should help speed up the guide (only if you have the most recent update) - If you just got it installed, give it about 48 hours or so and it should get the new software. Also, I'd suggest telling it only to output 720p and 1080i and turn off the 480i/p modes, that may speed up chanel surfing.
Thanks, I have scrolling off but I will turn off 480i/p modes as I do have them on and see how that works. Thanks again for the advice.

Had my 5 lnb installed the other ay w/HR20-100. The HR20 is woefully slow when tuning to a different station and using the guide. It downloaded the latest software 0x168. Anyone else seeing sluggishness?

I had the same insallation on Tuesday. What are the two small boxes that the two cables from the dish go into before going into the receiver? Thanks.

Jim

I had the same insallation on Tuesday. What are the two small boxes that the two cables from the dish go into before going into the receiver? Thanks.

Jim
It sounds like your talking about the BBCs [base band converters]. These will be needed for the channels coming from the new SATs [one of which is launching tonight].

8 hours to launch

http://www.satelliteguys.us/

Positive...checked numerous times--whenever I tried to change the channel to another SAT channel, it popped up a screen asking which recording I wanted to stop--with only the one choice (SAT1)...

When I looked in the settings, it showed:
Tuner 1 SAT, Record
Tuner 2 SAT
Off-air tuner 1, Record
Off-air tuner 2, Record

Not surewhay SAT Tuner 2 shows as "unable to record"
The only recording was Tuner SAT1...I was able to tune in on the off-air channels.

keithl1967... I had this exact same issue.

My info screen also showed:
Tuner 1 SAT, Record
Tuner 2 SAT
Off-air tuner 1, Record
Off-air tuner 2, Record

D* tech support had me swap the cables, rerun setup, re-run the setup with no satellite feeds connected, re-run the setup with the power cable unplugged for 5 minutes, hit the dreaded RED button, none of it worked.

Finally the thing that worked was a software RESET EVERYTHING. The bad news is that everything you have recorded will evaporate. The good thing at least in my case is my second tuner came out of the FUNK.

It sounds like your talking about the BBCs [base band converters]. These will be needed for the channels coming from the new SATs [one of which is launching tonight].
Correct, needed for the new SAT... How long before the channels be avail?

Correct, needed for the new SAT... How long before the channels be avail?
well:
If the launch tonight goes well,
the testing works well,
maybe Sept 15th.

well:
If the launch tonight goes well,
the testing works well,
maybe Sept 15th.
Thanks.

Had my 5 lnb installed the other ay w/HR20-100. The HR20 is woefully slow when tuning to a different station and using the guide. It downloaded the latest software 0x168. Anyone else seeing sluggishness?
The Mitsubishi WD-73727 has a 1080p DLP chip, so it converts everything to 1080p. Set your resolution choices to only 1080i (I don't think there is a 1080p choice) and turn off native mode.

I have a similar setup, except my DLP only uses 720p (42" screen) and this saves a lot of time changing channels. You won't lose anything since everything ends up as 1080p anyway.

The Mitsubishi WD-73727 has a 1080p DLP chip, so it converts everything to 1080p. Set your resolution choices to only 1080i (I don't think there is a 1080p choice) and turn off native mode.

I have a similar setup, except my DLP only uses 720p (42" screen) and this saves a lot of time changing channels. You won't lose anything since everything ends up as 1080p anyway.
Sounds good, I'll give that a try. I know I have a few resolutions selected and I think I already have native off.
Thanks...

http://www.ilslaunch.com/player/?file=DIRECTV10&type=mwcbl
if you want to watch the launch of the new bird...

I am just wondering what kind of deals people are getting these days to upgrade to Hi-Def?

I just called the retention line and on the first try got the HR20 for 20 bucks and she threw in Superfan. I have not kept up with this board recently, but I know in the early days you had to play "roulette" to get your equipt for free. Have they loosened up or did I get lucky? I called in acted nice, but dumb. I had her explain what everything cost to upgrade and simply said, oh I think I am going to go with FIOS instead of paying all that. Thank you. She then stammered and said oh well we have a special deal for people leaving for competitors. She offered up the equipt for free. I was still not happy that I had to pay another $100 to see NFL games in Hi-Def and she threw in Superfan. I was pretty happy. I was just looking for the free HDVR.

As for customer loyalty, I have been a D* customer for 2 years. My commitment was up at the end of the month and I have gotten the NFL package both years.
.

well:
If the launch tonight goes well,
the testing works well,
maybe Sept 15th.

If you've got your 5 lnb and your BBCs, do you need to activate anthing else, or should the new channels just "show up"?

That's all. H20s and HR20s with BBCs and 5LNB dishes are good to go.

Will the HR20 output SD via the coax onto a 2nd Non HD tv while still outputting the HD via HDMI to primary HD set? (I know they will both be showing the same program, just want to make sure I can set up this way as my living room set is HD and bedroom is SD)

Yes.

Will the HR20 output SD via the coax onto a 2nd Non HD tv while still outputting the HD via HDMI to primary HD set? (I know they will both be showing the same program, just want to make sure I can set up this way as my living room set is HD and bedroom is SD)The HR20 has NO coaxial (RF) output, unlike the past D* boxes! You'll have to buy a RF modulator to send the Composite+L+R to your other TVs via coaxial cable. Personally I'm using my old VCR to do it -- Line-IN+L+R and it modulates on channel 3.

Will Superfan only be transmitted in MPEG4? So I need a HR20 to receive the games in HD this year rendering my HR-250s useless for Sunday Ticket in HD?

Yes.
What receiver are you talking about?

Am I alone in seeing this? (D* says they have nothing in their database about this.)

If you do a few skips (slips) or few back-skips, or a few pauses in crop mode, the aspect ratio is actually broken. The picture is stretched vertically into no standard format. (It is frightening to see William Shatner with a face that is three times taller than it is wide, instead of the other way around.)

Since I frequently watch letter-boxed programs in SD, it is a major pain. It doesn't happen all the time, but frequently enough to be a real irritation.

I contacted D* and they told me to hit the red reset button. I did, and it fixed the problem for a few days, then the problem came back. I tried this several times with the same results.

D* sent me a replacement unit. It behaves exactly the same way as the original unit. The aspect ratio gets broken frequently in crop mode.

In theory, there is a tech comping out this afternoon to take a look at the problem. I don't have high hopes, but we will see.

Has anyone else seen this? Can anyone offer any suggestions?

Thanks,

Burt

I'm a little late to this party. I just discovered the thread.

I recently posted an HR20 review in the UTV forum. I didn't want to cross-post, so here is the link:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858862

The review is post #24 in this thread. I hope someone finds it useful.

Burt

Yeah, I came across it a few days back, Burt. I think it's fair and serves the needed purpose of evaluating the HR20 from a UTV user's perspective.

Am I alone in seeing this? (D* says they have nothing in their database about this.)

If you do a few skips (slips) or few back-skips, or a few pauses in crop mode, the aspect ratio is actually broken. The picture is stretched vertically into no standard format. (It is frightening to see William Shatner with a face that is three times taller than it is wide, instead of the other way around.)

Since I frequently watch letter-boxed programs in SD, it is a major pain. It doesn't happen all the time, but frequently enough to be a real irritation.

I contacted D* and they told me to hit the red reset button. I did, and it fixed the problem for a few days, then the problem came back. I tried this several times with the same results.

D* sent me a replacement unit. It behaves exactly the same way as the original unit. The aspect ratio gets broken frequently in crop mode.

In theory, there is a tech comping out this afternoon to take a look at the problem. I don't have high hopes, but we will see.

Has anyone else seen this? Can anyone offer any suggestions?

Thanks,

Burt
hmm... I think what you are saying is that when watching a widescreen movie in SD (such as IFC, Sundance, etc) that the aspect ratio is stretched when using ff and rew buttons.... Are you watching this on an HD set using the standard unstretched format or are you watching in 4:3 format on your HD (so you have bars on all 4 sides of the movie)? If you are stretching your widescreen to fit your tv, then hit FF or Back, you are effectively telling your TV that it needs to reduce the stretch in order to accomodate your Directv graphics (time bar), once the time bar goes away, it would re-streach your program. If you are watching it in standard 4:3 mode you should not have this issue. Let me know...
By the way, you may want to read the following, you may know this info, but if not, is is quite helpful to understand the aspect ratios.
http://www.rexer.com/cine/oar.htm

hmm... I think what you are saying is that when watching a widescreen movie in SD (such as IFC, Sundance, etc) that the aspect ratio is stretched when using ff and rew buttons.... Are you watching this on an HD set using the standard unstretched format or are you watching in 4:3 format on your HD (so you have bars on all 4 sides of the movie)? If you are stretching your widescreen to fit your tv, then hit FF or Back, you are effectively telling your TV that it needs to reduce the stretch in order to accomodate your Directv graphics (time bar), once the time bar goes away, it would re-streach your program. If you are watching it in standard 4:3 mode you should not have this issue. Let me know...
By the way, you may want to read the following, you may know this info, but if not, is is quite helpful to understand the aspect ratios.
http://www.rexer.com/cine/oar.htm

Thanks for the response.

I am watching on a 16:9 Sony XBR HDTV. The HR20 is set to Native Mode. Permissible inputs to the Sony are 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i, so I have all these inputs checked on the HR20.

The problem happens when I am watching a letter-boxed SD program. At times, it works perfectly (the picture fills the screen from corner to corner with no distortion). If I hit Pause, Rewind, Fast Forward, the aspect ratio gets broken and the picture extends beyond the screen vertically.

The D* tech just left. I managed to demonstrate the problem to him. His response was, "Hmmm. I never saw that before." We actually managed to watch a paused program and see the picture snap in and out of proper operation about once per second. We agreed that I would suffer with the problem until the next software upgrade (a red-button reset fixes the problem for two or three days).

Any suggestions are welcome.

Burt

Thanks for the response.

I am watching on a 16:9 Sony XBR HDTV. The HR20 is set to Native Mode. Permissible inputs to the Sony are 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i, so I have all these inputs checked on the HR20.

The problem happens when I am watching a letter-boxed SD program. At times, it works perfectly (the picture fills the screen from corner to corner with no distortion). If I hit Pause, Rewind, Fast Forward, the aspect ratio gets broken and the picture extends beyond the screen vertically.

The D* tech just left. I managed to demonstrate the problem to him. His response was, "Hmmm. I never saw that before." We actually managed to watch a paused program and see the picture snap in and out of proper operation about once per second. We agreed that I would suffer with the problem until the next software upgrade (a red-button reset fixes the problem for two or three days).

Any suggestions are welcome.

Burt
I am going to say this is not a DTV problem, the box is outputting widescreen inside a 4:3 station (all sd chanels are 4:3), you have your Sony set to zoom, stretch, fill (not sure what sony calls it) but you are not watching your DTV signal in it's original aspect, if you happen to be watching a 16:9 movie (as opposed to any of the other widescreen aspects), you can stretch it with no distortion to fill your 16:9 tv, but the DTV has no idea what your tv is doing, it only is sending a signal, your tv is basically guessing when you tell it to fill the screen by choosing the fill screen aspect (maybe a sony owner could fill me in on what sony calls it)that you do not want to see any black around the picture. It does that fine until your change the output of your picture by pressing a button that involves the time bar, that triggers your tv that you are zooming in too tight to see all of the output from the dtv box (your time bar is in the lower portion below the letterbox). If you switch your sony to regular 4:3 mode, it won't happen, but you'll be watching a movie that looks like a postcard in the middle of the screen.

Thanks for the response.

I am watching on a 16:9 Sony XBR HDTV. The HR20 is set to Native Mode. Permissible inputs to the Sony are 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i, so I have all these inputs checked on the HR20.

The problem happens when I am watching a letter-boxed SD program. At times, it works perfectly (the picture fills the screen from corner to corner with no distortion). If I hit Pause, Rewind, Fast Forward, the aspect ratio gets broken and the picture extends beyond the screen vertically.

The D* tech just left. I managed to demonstrate the problem to him. His response was, "Hmmm. I never saw that before." We actually managed to watch a paused program and see the picture snap in and out of proper operation about once per second. We agreed that I would suffer with the problem until the next software upgrade (a red-button reset fixes the problem for two or three days).

Any suggestions are welcome.

Burt
This "bug" has been around for some time. I know the D* software team does know about it. I've been having it through the past several test versions, but don't know if it's fixed in last nights version.
A work around is to set the HR-20 to stretch [so it does nothing] and use the Sony "zoom" mode to watch.

I would include a photo, but don't know how. I have an HR20 that is working fine for all my locals and HD DTV stuff, but I only see what appear to be 3 lnbs occupying the far left spots on the arm facing my oval dish.... is that all I need for the new stuff? Maybe someone who can post pix can post what their oval (slimline) 5lnb looks like.

I would include a photo, but don't know how. I have an HR20 that is working fine for all my locals and HD DTV stuff, but I only see what appear to be 3 lnbs occupying the far left spots on the arm facing my oval dish.... is that all I need for the new stuff? Maybe someone who can post pix can post what their oval (slimline) 5lnb looks like.If you are standing behind the slimline dish looking in the direction it is aimed, what appears to be 3 LNBs are actually 5. In order from left to right, they are the 119 LNB, the 110 LNB, and the larger housing on the right contains the 103, 101, and 99 LNBs.

If you are standing behind the slimline dish looking in the direction it is aimed, what appears to be 3 LNBs are actually 5. In order from left to right, they are the 119 LNB, the 110 LNB, and the larger housing on the right contains the 103, 101, and 99 LNBs.
thanks, what are the blank spots to the right for?

thanks, what are the blank spots to the right for?beats me, maybe just so the arm is symmetrical.

thanks, what are the blank spots to the right for?
a future LNB for the 95 SAT.

Anyone notice a bump up in the quality of DD 5.1 sound with the HR20?

I just upgraded my HR10-250 in the theater. The difference is immediately noticeable on any newer HD movie. It is so noticeable that I am wondering if I had the previous model set up correctly although I distinctly remember surround sound on some broadcasts.

I like everything about the newer DVR except for the program guide. With the old tivo guide, you could scroll through pages of listings per each channel. Now I have to just scroll to the right forever to view the listings per channel. I wish they could add that in an update.

Anyone notice a bump up in the quality of DD 5.1 sound with the HR20?
- It sound identical to me. I just recently switched from a HR10-250 also.

I like everything about the newer DVR except for the program guide. With the old tivo guide, you could scroll through pages of listings per each channel. Now I have to just scroll to the right forever to view the listings per channel. I wish they could add that in an update.
- I haven't found a way either, but I like the Guide style better on the HR20-700. The HD-Tivo had the same style guide as an option, but it was so slow. You do know that you can skip forward or backward 12 hours using the green/yellow buttons?

Is there a way to go to a specific time and date in the guide quickly like the Tivo where you could push info in the guide and steer it to a specfic date/time in the future?

- I haven't found a way either, but I like the Guide style better on the HR20-700. The HD-Tivo had the same style guide as an option, but it was so slow. You do know that you can skip forward or backward 12 hours using the green/yellow buttons?
While in the guide, < to the channel [starz xxx say], then press the info button.
It will then list the programs on that channel.

While in the guide, < to the channel [starz xxx say], then press the info button.
It will then list the programs on that channel.


Thanks VOS! You have achieved hero status for me today. :D

I am going to say this is not a DTV problem, the box is outputting widescreen inside a 4:3 station (all sd chanels are 4:3), you have your Sony set to zoom, stretch, fill (not sure what sony calls it) but you are not watching your DTV signal in it's original aspect, if you happen to be watching a 16:9 movie (as opposed to any of the other widescreen aspects), you can stretch it with no distortion to fill your 16:9 tv, but the DTV has no idea what your tv is doing, it only is sending a signal, your tv is basically guessing when you tell it to fill the screen by choosing the fill screen aspect (maybe a sony owner could fill me in on what sony calls it)that you do not want to see any black around the picture. It does that fine until your change the output of your picture by pressing a button that involves the time bar, that triggers your tv that you are zooming in too tight to see all of the output from the dtv box (your time bar is in the lower portion below the letterbox). If you switch your sony to regular 4:3 mode, it won't happen, but you'll be watching a movie that looks like a postcard in the middle of the screen.

Hi Danmen,

Thanks for the response.

I'm afraid I can't agree with you. If you are right, the problem would be consistent. The fact that crop mode operates properly on letterbox programs and then, intermittently distorts the picture argues against your interpretation. More important, the fact that a red-button reset cures the problem for two or three days suggests that the problem is in the HR20 and its software. Furthermore, when crop mode is distorting, the distortion appears in all four Sony aspect ratios (Full, Zoom, Wide Zoom, and Normal).

I appreciate your input, but I still think this is a DTV problem.

Burt

This "bug" has been around for some time. I know the D* software team does know about it. I've been having it through the past several test versions, but don't know if it's fixed in last nights version.
A work around is to set the HR-20 to stretch [so it does nothing] and use the Sony "zoom" mode to watch.

Hi VOS,

It's reassuring to know that DTV is aware of the problem. The CSRs are not.

I tried your workaround. It works like a charm. I never would have thought of it.

Thank you!

Burt

Is there a way to go to a specific time and date in the guide quickly like the Tivo where you could push info in the guide and steer it to a specfic date/time in the future?

When in the Program Guide, press the Menu button. On the left side of the screen, scroll to Date & Time.

Just got my HR20 and i don't know how to swap between the 2 tuners. I could with the HD Tivo by using the right arrow on the remote. My old Comcast dvr actually had a button on the remote called "Swap". Is there a way to swap or at a minimum view what channel the 2nd tuner is tuned in to?
Thanks

So far so good...

Just got my HR20 and i don't know how to swap between the 2 tuners. I could with the HD Tivo by using the right arrow on the remote. My old Comcast dvr actually had a button on the remote called "Swap".Ummm... Obviously you haven't read thru these threads... You can't swap tuners...

This is post # 3044, would anybody actually try to read through this thread?

This is post # 3044, would anybody actually try to read through this thread?

nope

question: how do you control when the blue screen saver comes on?

Ummm... Obviously you haven't read thru these threads... You can't swap tuners...

You have a firm grasp on the obvious pal! A search is what I tried and that came up notta. Don't trouble yourself but to anyone else less high and mighty, there is no way to view what channel the other tuner is set at?

nope
question: how do you control when the blue screen saver comes on?
:confused: When the screen saver kicks in, I just press any button and it goes away.
With me it kicks in when I've paused, so I press pause again & then a second time to "unpause".

there is no way to view what channel the other tuner is set at?
Coming from the Tivo world, no the HR-20 doesn't work that way.
If D* ever enables Double Live Buffer, then yes you will.
Right now there is only single live buffer which it 90 min.
The HR-20 can record using the other tuner while watching another channel [live buffer].
You can set up two channels to record and then go back and forth, but most die hard Tivo fans, this isn't the same.

Here is something that may help: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=69404

If you haven't heard or done this: tune to channel 499 to test your BBCs.
I just did and found 5 out of my 6 to be bad. D* is sending replacements [for free].
A "good test" is searching for SAT 1 or 2 [771] Do test both.

Thanks for the info and the awesome link. Alot of good tips, especially toning the down the obnoxiously blue spinner in front. I will check ch. 499 and test it out. Thanks again.

Just got a HR20-100 installed today. In the instruction it mentions that I have to subscribe to some sort of service and connect my phone line. Sound like TIVO. So do I ? and if so, what does it cost?

Just got a HR20-100 installed today. In the instruction it mentions that I have to subscribe to some sort of service and connect my phone line. Sound like TIVO. So do I ? and if so, what does it cost?
D* wants the phoneline connected. You may or may not do it. It is mostly for PPV ordering but it can be done from the web.
There is a DVR monthly charge $5.99 for all [as in not each]

Hi All, It appears the hard drive on my HR10-250 is dying so it's probably time to finally make the upgrade the HR20.

I have a 3 LMB dish, so I'll need an upgrade. Before I call DirecTV can someone give me an idea of what I can expect? Will they simply swap the HR10-250 for an HR20? The 10-250 is a little under a year old and I renewed my service contract for two years when I bought it (they gave it to me for free with a 2 year renewal and the purchase of NFL Sunday Ticket).

Also, can I use an external antenna yet with the HR20 for the local channels not carried on the Satellite?

Thanks in advance.

Anyone know what sats will broadcast Sunday Ticket? I don't get the 110 or 119 but I'm hoping to get ST. I'm REALLY hoping they move or double broadcast the HD Superfan on their new HD sat.

Hi All, It appears the hard drive on my HR10-250 is dying so it's probably time to finally make the upgrade the HR20.

I have a 3 LMB dish, so I'll need an upgrade. Before I call DirecTV can someone give me an idea of what I can expect? Will they simply swap the HR10-250 for an HR20? The 10-250 is a little under a year old and I renewed my service contract for two years when I bought it (they gave it to me for free with a 2 year renewal and the purchase of NFL Sunday Ticket).

Also, can I use an external antenna yet with the HR20 for the local channels not carried on the Satellite?

Thanks in advance.
Call and "who knows" but they should be nice to you. [I think I'd be leaning towards getting it for free].
The OTA tuner has been active for 6 months.

Channel 499 test

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If you haven't heard or done this: tune to channel 499 to test your BBCs.
I just did and found 5 out of my 6 to be bad. D* is sending replacements [for free].
A "good test" is searching for SAT 1 or 2 [771] Do test both.

=======================================================

OK, thank you...this is quite helpful, yet I need your advice. After 15 minutes, DTV is still searching for the satellite on SAT1. Does this mean the BBC is bad?

The DirecTivos are simple to use, very intuitive, and have an excellent remote in terms of ergonomics and layout; but part of it is that we are just used to using them. I think their primary major advantage over the HR20, perhaps their only major advantage, is their reliability. And I was one of the long-term die-hard Tivo users.

The HR20 has several features the Tivo lacks, the most important to me being the "Back" button. The eSATA port is another a great feature. After a month with the HR20 I am easily able to leave my Tivo on standby (but I won't disconnect it until the HR20 is less buggy).

Can someone tell me what the Esata port is used for? and what the network connection does?

Channel 499 test

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If you haven't heard or done this: tune to channel 499 to test your BBCs.
I just did and found 5 out of my 6 to be bad. D* is sending replacements [for free].
A "good test" is searching for SAT 1 or 2 [771] Do test both.

=======================================================

OK, thank you...this is quite helpful, yet I need your advice. After 15 minutes, DTV is still searching for the satellite on SAT1. Does this mean the BBC is bad?
If you "pass" the test: you will have a black screen with searching for.... SAT1 [771]. That's it. There is no more to it. [since there are two inputs & BBCs, either test SAT 2 or repeat the test after swapping the BBCs so you test both of them].
BAD: either you can't get "normal" channels or you have a screen telling you the BBC isn't connected or is bad and to call D*.
So the test is kind of "dumb" in that if it works, you get error 771, and if it fails, you get "programing" [something to see].

Can someone tell me what the Esata port is used for? and what the network connection does?
1) eSATA port is for connecting an eSATA hard drive, to replace the internal drive.
2) the network connection is for connecting to a ViiV computer and watching photos & listening to music on the HR-20 coming from your PC.

1) eSATA port is for connecting an eSATA hard drive, to replace the internal drive.
2) the network connection is for connecting to a ViiV computer and watching photos & listening to music on the HR-20 coming from your PC.

Thank you. Is there any documentation on adding the additional drive?

Thank you. Is there any documentation on adding the additional drive?
1) Turn off, then unplug the HR20
2) Plug the eSata cable into the HR20 and the external drive.
3) Power on the external drive and wait about 30 seconds
4) Plug the HR20 back in and turn it on.

All done.

1) Turn off, then unplug the HR20
2) Plug the eSata cable into the HR20 and the external drive.
3) Power on the external drive and wait about 30 seconds
4) Plug the HR20 back in and turn it on.

All done.
^^^ is much better than: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=66201

^^^ is much better than: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=66201
Well, to be fair, that thread was started before anyone knew how to do it. Also, most of the external eSata gear that makes it that easy was just coming out. Add to that, the old school methods of adding HD space to DVRs that were well known (read a total pain in the rear that only technogeeks could do). And you can see why that thread is soooooo hard to follow.

My instructions are nothing more than the condensed version of that thread :) .

I think that changing the -700 to a 750gig drive for < $300 is awesome. The fact that it was dead easy is also a huge bonus.

I'm waiting to have D* come back out and do my install..They didn't have a 700 Series on the truck as promised when I elected to upgrade...Are the other series as good in case I am waiting for a long period and have to take a different one?

Thanks

Mac

I'm waiting to have D* come back out and do my install..They didn't have a 700 Series on the truck as promised when I elected to upgrade...Are the other series as good in case I am waiting for a long period and have to take a different one?

Thanks

Mac
-100 or -700? not really different, they're both HR-20s.
They're not like a Ford verses Chevy.
Or to put it another way: if all you had was a remote and watched the TV, you couldn't tell.

I just bought my HR20-100 from DTV. Previousl I had had a RCA receiver ... HD but no DVR. I live between Columbus and Dayton, Ohio.

With the previous receiver, I could receive both Columbus and Dayton stations from my antenna through the receiver.

Now my new HR20 will only let me receive Columbus stations and some other stations . I have done the station set up from the menu, and it still won't let me see (receive) the Dayton station.

Is there something I can do, or do I put up with this little inconvenience to have a DVR?

The reason I ask is that the Columbus CBS station pre-empts CBS programming to show Ohio State basketball games ... and I could give a ratz-a$$ about (the) Ohio State athletic programing. When this would happen on the old HD receiver, I would watch the CBS feed from Dayton. Now it seems that I can't. The Dayton PBS channel would also have better programing in non-prime time.

any suggestions??

jb

I just bought my HR20-100 from DTV. Previousl I had had a RCA receiver ... HD but no DVR. I live between Columbus and Dayton, Ohio.

With the previous receiver, I could receive both Columbus and Dayton stations from my antenna through the receiver.

Now my new HR20 will only let me receive Columbus stations and some other stations . I have done the station set up from the menu, and it still won't let me see (receive) the Dayton station.Put in a Dayton zip for your secondary market... I had to do this to get the second PBS station in our market...

1) eSATA port is for connecting an eSATA hard drive, to replace the internal drive.
2) the network connection is for connecting to a ViiV computer and watching photos & listening to music on the HR-20 coming from your PC.Does it have to be a ViiV PC? Isn't that just a marketing arrangement with Intel?

Does it have to be a ViiV PC? Isn't that just a marketing arrangement with Intel?It does not have to be a ViiV PC. I have my HR20 networked with a Windows XP PC using WMP11 and it works just fine for Media Share.

Is there a way to copy the recorded content from the HR20 onto ...say a DVD-/+R??

Is there a way to copy the recorded content from the HR20 onto ...say a DVD-/+R??Sure. Hook a DVD recorder to the composite video/Svideo and RCA audio output and record whatever you play from your now playing list.

Sure. Hook a DVD recorder to the composite video/Svideo and RCA audio output and record whatever you play from your now playing list.OK,

So what hardware do I need? Something like a laptop with video-in capabilities I suppose? Is there a break-out box or PCMCIA card that you could suggest? (I don't have a desktop in the house, only a few laptops...)

OK,

So what hardware do I need? Something like a laptop with video-in capabilities I suppose? Is there a break-out box or PCMCIA card that you could suggest? (I don't have a desktop in the house, only a few laptops...)AVSFORUM on DVD Recorders (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=7&f=106)

My Caller ID quit working. Anyone else have this happen? All phones in house have Caller ID working OK. Changed phone cable. Did not help. Thanks.

Jim

My Caller ID quit working. Anyone else have this happen? All phones in house have Caller ID working OK. Changed phone cable. Did not help. Thanks. Jim
Sorry, I can't help... My HR20's caller ID never did function. Gave some vague message about needing to call my phone company. Like you, caller ID works on phones (and even worked with a previous H20 receiver), so it's not the CID service. I suspect that it is the HR20. :)

As you might have guessed --- I really don't see why it matters. Actually I'd rather not have the TV interrupted when the phone rings. Makes it harder yet for me to ignore phone calls.

And, at least for me, it just isn't worth going through the Support Department Hassles to get a fresh receiver.

Sorry, I can't help... My HR20's caller ID never did function. Gave some vague message about needing to call my phone company. Like you, caller ID works on phones (and even worked with a previous H20 receiver), so it's not the CID service. I suspect that it is the HR20. :)

As you might have guessed --- I really don't see why it matters. Actually I'd rather not have the TV interrupted when the phone rings. Makes it harder yet for me to ignore phone calls.

And, at least for me, it just isn't worth going through the Support Department Hassles to get a fresh receiver.

Amen to that! Thanks.

Jim

Sorry, I can't help... My HR20's caller ID never did function. Gave some vague message about needing to call my phone company. Like you, caller ID works on phones (and even worked with a previous H20 receiver), so it's not the CID service. I suspect that it is the HR20. :)

As you might have guessed --- I really don't see why it matters. Actually I'd rather not have the TV interrupted when the phone rings. Makes it harder yet for me to ignore phone calls.

And, at least for me, it just isn't worth going through the Support Department Hassles to get a fresh receiver.
The -700 has a long list of users that can't get CID to work, or it works for a few days after a reboot.
What seems to improve it:
1) Ground your receiver to house ground [this should be done already, but you know installers]. Grounding the SAT lines will do it.
2) run your phone line through a UPS to "clean up" garbage on the line.
3) if you're using DSL, use a DSL filter to keep it off the line.
4) change to the -100 as it has better CID performance.

The -700 has a long list of users that can't get CID to work, or it works for a few days after a reboot.
What seems to improve it:
1) Ground your receiver to house ground [this should be done already, but you know installers]. Grounding the SAT lines will do it.
2) run your phone line through a UPS to "clean up" garbage on the line.
3) if you're using DSL, use a DSL filter to keep it off the line.
4) change to the -100 as it has better CID performance.

It is a 100 that the CID failed on. Using DSL filters until Tuesday. I'm having FIOS installed.

Jim

It is a 100 that the CID failed on. Using DSL filters until Tuesday. I'm having FIOS installed.

Jim
I guess that should fix it.
How about #1 & #2?

I guess that should fix it.
How about #1 & #2?

The installer grounded evrything. Not using a UPS.

Jim

The installer grounded everything. Not using a UPS.

Jim
There was a user that "fixed" their CID by running it through a UPS. It makes one wonder what noise [trash] was on the phone line.

Hey!

I don't even know what to search for to find an answer to this...

When I hit Pause, the "time" banner is displayed near the bottom of the screen, which is fine. But, as it so happens, much of the information I might want to see is also on the bottom of the screen. Seems like I remember that with TiVo the time banner display would disappear if you hit the forward button once. Is there a trick to make the banner disappear when the HR20 is paused?

Sorry if this has been asked and answered or is a common complaint.

Ed

There was a user that "fixed" their CID by running it through a UPS. It makes one wonder what noise [trash] was on the phone line.
My phone line is filled with trash... Mostly people wanting to either check my A/C or sell me a time share in Bolivia. Sure, that might be helpful --- except my son is an A/C guru and my ex-wife moved to Bolivia.

Okay, I know what you're thinking. How bad is he that his ex- moved to Bolivia. As it happens, I think (although I don't know) that Bolivia is a pretty nice place. At least until recently. ;)

So, what am I missing here? Who cares about the CID feature? If it is to impress friends and influence people --- then I understand fully! But if it is because this is your only (main) caller ID device --- then I don't get it.

My phone has a feature where it verbally tells me who is calling, if it is someone I frequently talk to. Otherwise. the large CID display kicks in --- or even better --- my Intelescreener works its magic. Speaking of which, what happened to the company that made the Intelliscreener? That thing is the single best tech device I've ever owned. Period. And, it seems that they've gone kapoot?

Did telemarketers buy the patent? :)

This is only "slightly" off topic! I hope. :eek:

I just got the HR20-100 installed yesterday. The PQ is horrible. HD looks like SD ans SD is simply unwatchable. I'm using the RS1 projector. Anyone else using this combo that we can discuss settings? I use the HDMI output and noticed that the Comp output won't deliver a signal. Every receiver I've had that was badged D* has been a piece of crap and never worked well. That's not to mention how poor the interface is for the DVR which has never been improved. All my old receivers from Sony have a great PQ. I've been a D* customer 14 yrs. but I think it's time to move on if I can't fix this PQ issue.

An excellent picture here with HD DVD from Directv. I use component all the way..can see no advantage with HDMI. I am a happy customer and looking forward to much more HD content soon.

I just got the HR20-100 installed yesterday. The PQ is horrible. HD looks like SD ans SD is simply unwatchable. I'm using the RS1 projector. Anyone else using this combo that we can discuss settings? I use the HDMI output and noticed that the Comp output won't deliver a signal. Every receiver I've had that was badged D* has been a piece of crap and never worked well. That's not to mention how poor the interface is for the DVR which has never been improved. All my old receivers from Sony have a great PQ. I've been a D* customer 14 yrs. but I think it's time to move on if I can't fix this PQ issue.
Did you install it or was it done by a installer?
Most [well some] installers don't bother to select the correct resolutions in the setup menu.
It sounds like you don't have 720p or 1080i selected.
While I also own a Sony HD receiver, it's been retired to the shelf since getting my twin HR-20s.
I'm sure there is a setting that needs some attention since my Sony Flat Panel 1080p is knockout with my D* equipment.

My phone line is filled with trash... Mostly people wanting to either check my A/C or sell me a time share in Bolivia. Sure, that might be helpful --- except my son is an A/C guru and my ex-wife moved to Bolivia.

Okay, I know what you're thinking. How bad is he that his ex- moved to Bolivia. As it happens, I think (although I don't know) that Bolivia is a pretty nice place. At least until recently. ;)

So, what am I missing here? Who cares about the CID feature? If it is to impress friends and influence people --- then I understand fully! But if it is because this is your only (main) caller ID device --- then I don't get it.

My phone has a feature where it verbally tells me who is calling, if it is someone I frequently talk to. Otherwise. the large CID display kicks in --- or even better --- my Intelescreener works its magic. Speaking of which, what happened to the company that made the Intelliscreener? That thing is the single best tech device I've ever owned. Period. And, it seems that they've gone kapoot?

Did telemarketers buy the patent? :)

This is only "slightly" off topic! I hope. :eek:
The next best thing after hearing you're alive is to see that you're getting back to your old self.
Good to see you're getting stronger and have your true spirit coming back, old friend. Keep getting better, as we have missed you here.
Bolivia, wasn't that where Butch Cassidy & Sundance retired to?

When I hit Pause, the "time" banner is displayed near the bottom of the screen, which is fine. But, as it so happens, much of the information I might want to see is also on the bottom of the screen. Press Exit.

I just got my HR20 the other day. So far, I love it. However, it is my first DVR but I tried it out on some of the HD channels & it was magnificent!!!! I can't wait for football season to start. It will be awesome. D* sure was smart to pay through the nose for exclusive rights to this thing.

I have been using my HR20 for a couple of days now ... love it!

My problem ... I have a dvd player which needs a HDMI cable to display HD ... my HR20 also needs a HDMI. But my HD TV only has one place for a HDMI to be plugged in. Right now I have the HR20 plugges in.

Is there such a thing as a HDMI splitter box? How does it work and where would I get one?


Thanks

jb

I have been using my HR20 for a couple of days now ... love it!

My problem ... I have a dvd player which needs a HDMI cable to display HD ... my HR20 also needs a HDMI. But my HD TV only has one place for a HDMI to be plugged in. Right now I have the HR20 plugges in.

Is there such a thing as a HDMI splitter box? How does it work and where would I get one?


Thanks

jb

Something like this maybe?

http://www.firefold.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=HDMIDVI-AUDIO-2SWITCH

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&style=

I have been using my HR20 for a couple of days now ... love it!

My problem ... I have a dvd player which needs a HDMI cable to display HD ... my HR20 also needs a HDMI. But my HD TV only has one place for a HDMI to be plugged in. Right now I have the HR20 plugges in.

Is there such a thing as a HDMI splitter box? How does it work and where would I get one?


Thanks

jb

Can you use component video for either of the boxes?

I can use component on both, but I have been told that I lose the HD capability

I can use component on both, but I have been told that I lose the HD capability

Component can send 720p and 1080i just fine. Some of the older D* HD tuners only had component outputs.

Deezul

I can use component on both, but I have been told that I lose the HD capability
They were wrong.
Component = analog HD
Composite = analog SD
HDMI = digital [HD or SD]

Your DVD is HD?
HD DVD or Bluray?

I can use component on both, but I have been told that I lose the HD capability

Is the DVD player one that upscales?

I can use component on both, but I have been told that I lose the HD capabilityThis is often a slip of the tongue -- people mean to say composite but say component. And there's failing to stipulate which component format.

For SD: composite is the yellow RCA jack that is the forerunner to S-Video while component is the YCrCb for SD on NON HD-capable displays.

For HD: YPrPb is an analog signal that does support HD formats and requires a HD-capable display. HDMI is the digital equal to DVI.

Some quick first impressions of the HR20-700 after one week of use. I retired my HR10-250 after 3 years in preparation of the new HD stations. Overall, I'm starting to like it more than the HD-Tivo.

A few things I really like about it:
a1. Faster recording, no confirmation. Faster "season pass".
a2. Guide is a lot faster. Finall a normal speed "grid style" guide.
a3. Guide is accessible even when watching recorded shows.
a4. 30 second slip. I actually like this better than the 30 second skip of the Tivo because you can actually see things as they pass. Plus, you don't have to re-enter the code when the power goes out.
a5. Hard Drive space used display!

A few annoyances:
b1. The nuclear fission display lights are much too bright. I finally just decided to turn off the center ring because even at it's lowest setting, it's distracting.
b2. Skipping by "tick" marks on recordings. You have to press and hold the transport button for a few seconds and then press it again to skip one tick mark. Rinse and repeat for several.
b3. Series Link always records initial show even if it's a rerun. I'm not sure why, but the first few series that I've set up as First Run only always records the first episode, even though the Guide data says "Repeat".
b4. Exit button. I'm so used to hitting the same button to exit on the Tivo to get to to the previous screen (Guide gets rid the Guide if displayed).
b5. LiveTV button. Is there one? The only thing I saw was "Active" which goes to the D* local channel.

B5. Press the Stop button to get back to live TV.

I just got my HR20 last week. It has been great. This morning, my remote control would nto turn it on. I tried the power swicth as well. No luck. I had to uplug the dvr to make it work. A friend of mine said he had the same experience. any clues?

Greetings all,

I found a message on another forum that the RC64 remote for the HR20 would be available on July 16. I've been waiting for this model as it has codes to run the newer Olevia TVs. I called Directv Customer Service on July 17, but they denied that the RC64 exists, much less having any idea when it would become available. When I told them the instruction manual for it is available on their website:

http://www.directv.com/learn/pdf/Remote_Controls/DIRECTVRC64forWeb.pdf

they still didn't know what I was talking about. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks in advance.......

Jim

Greetings all,
I found a message on another forum that the RC64 remote for the HR20 would be available on July 16. I've been waiting for this model as it has codes to run the newer Olevia TVs. I called Directv Customer Service on July 17, but they denied that the RC64 exists, much less having any idea when it would become available. When I told them the instruction manual for it is available on their website:
http://www.directv.com/learn/pdf/Remote_Controls/DIRECTVRC64forWeb.pdf
they still didn't know what I was talking about. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks in advance.......
Jim
You mean like "I have one" and it doesn't have RF capability?
[BTW, it came with a receiver]

Got my HR20 and Slimline dish installed one week ago. All is fine...except...
I need OTA out here in the sticks, Grand Junction. CO, market size 184 of 210. I get the locals fine with my H20 and my Sony HDTV. Not so with the HR20. I get the
CBS, ABC, NBC and PBS channels at near 100% levels, but not their subchannels nor the FOX channel/subchannels. After a "channel search" the FOX RF channel appears on the locals list but selecting it gives the old "searching for signal" response. Keying in the mapped channel number I get "channel not available" After searching this forum I learned that the HR20 does not really scan for the locals but looks at the data base for your zip code, which is frequently not accurate for small markets. So, finally, my question. What can I do to fix this problem? Is there a plan for a D* software update to have the HR20 actually scan for locals? Or any rumors of a plan? My second question; how can I get the data base updated? Who is responsible for updates? D* (doubtful), my local stations or the database provider, Tribune Media Service from what I learned from my search?

You mean like "I have one" and it doesn't have RF capability?
[BTW, it came with a receiver]

Not sure if you're being serious here or not, but I currently have an RC23 that I received with my HR20 when it was installed last January. I want to upgrade to the RC64 so it will run my Olevia 537H TV, which the RC23 won't do. Not concerned about RF capability, as I'm only interested in using the HR20 with one TV (the Olevia). Thanks.

Jim

My weird no trickplay on SD locals has returned. 3 reboots and it still is gone. Works like a champ on every channel including OTA. The scheduled recordings work but when you to watch one all is well until you pause, 30 sec skip, or FF/RW.

Not sure if you're being serious here or not, but I currently have an RC23 that I received with my HR20 when it was installed last January. I want to upgrade to the RC64 so it will run my Olevia 537H TV, which the RC23 won't do. Not concerned about RF capability, as I'm only interested in using the HR20 with one TV (the Olevia). Thanks.
Jim
You should have gotten the RC 34 with your HR-20 [I don't know if it has your code or not but my RC 23 came with my D-11].
The RC 64 has been rumored for a couple of months, & came with my latest HD box.
I don't think D* CSRs are yet up to speed on it.

You should have gotten the RC 34 with your HR-20 [I don't know if it has your code or not but my RC 23 came with my D-11].
The RC 64 has been rumored for a couple of months, & came with my latest HD box.
I don't think D* CSRs are yet up to speed on it.

I don't know if the RC34 has my code or not, but based on messages in the Olevia topic, my guess is no and anyway I don't have it. The install technician I had last January, while not totally clueless, did seem a little behind in the latest equipment. I'll try emailing D* and let you know what happens. Thanks for taking time to reply.

Jim

I don't know if the RC34 has my code or not, but based on messages in the Olevia topic, my guess is no and anyway I don't have it. The install technician I had last January, while not totally clueless, did seem a little behind in the latest equipment. I'll try emailing D* and let you know what happens. Thanks for taking time to reply.
Jim
You could post your TV model number & question here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=88003&page=3
Edmund is the master of remotes

B5. Press the Stop button to get back to live TV.
I consider live tv button to do this...
Say I start watching a show from my list and it is still recording (Like a NFL Game). I come home, hit play and it starts at kick off, and I want to go ahead and skip the excitement and go right to where we are now... I used to hit live TV and it would take me to the current spot within the show I am currently watching. What is the HR20 equivalent of "jump to the end of the buffer?"

I consider live tv button to do this...
Say I start watching a show from my list and it is still recording (Like a NFL Game). I come home, hit play and it starts at kick off, and I want to go ahead and skip the excitement and go right to where we are now... I used to hit live TV and it would take me to the current spot within the show I am currently watching. What is the HR20 equivalent of "jump to the end of the buffer?"
"Stop", brings you back to live TV. Change channels if the show was recording in the background [where live is showing your last channel viewed].

veryoldschool:

Thanks for the heads up on the sonora amp. Finally got a D* installer that didn't run away saying a supervisor would have to come out on my job. 4th visit in the past 5 or 6 weeks and they finally hooked up a Slimline to replace my 2 3lnb dishes. Works like a charm.

veryoldschool:

Thanks for the heads up on the sonora amp. Finally got a D* installer that didn't run away saying a supervisor would have to come out on my job. 4th visit in the past 5 or 6 weeks and they finally hooked up a Slimline to replace my 2 3lnb dishes. Works like a charm.
:D :D :D :cool:

Some quick first impressions of the HR20-700 after one week of use. I retired my HR10-250 after 3 years in preparation of the new HD stations. Overall, I'm starting to like it more than the HD-Tivo.

I recently made the switch too...the few things I really dislike about it compared to the TiVo:

-No jump back while FF'ing. I used to have it down to a science on the TiVo...I could fast forward on the 3x speed and hit play at just the right moment and the TiVo would jump back right where I wanted it to..just as the commercial break was ending.

-With the HR20...I find myself fast fowarding at slower speeds or going 2x or 3x and then hitting the replay button to stop the FF, instead of play, then hitting it once or twice more to get to the end of the commercial break.

Also, afaik...there is no active way to flip between two tuners. Used to love this during CFB season. Go to one game, pause it...swap tuners...watch another game until commercial...pause...swap, watch other game until I caught up to real time...etc...

Can't do this on HR20 afaik...I know there is a work around involving recording the show on each tuner, but it's more work then pressing "down" on the remote and just swapping tuners.


Just a couple of gripes...overall, I dig the unit for a lot of the reasons you listed above. faster menus, no waiting to record shows, etc.

Going to take some time to get used to it, though. Definitely made it more livable after turning off the bright blue ring (press the left arrow and right arrow at the same time on the unit itself about 4 times for those who don't know)...and changing the guide button to bring up the actual guide on the first button press instead of having to press it twice.

I recently made the switch too...the few things I really dislike about it compared to the TiVo:

1) -No jump back while FF'ing. I used to have it down to a science on the TiVo...I could fast forward on the 3x speed and hit play at just the right moment and the TiVo would jump back right where I wanted it to..just as the commercial break was ending.

-With the HR20...I find myself fast fowarding at slower speeds or going 2x or 3x and then hitting the replay button to stop the FF, instead of play, then hitting it once or twice more to get to the end of the commercial break.

2) Also, afaik...there is no active way to flip between two tuners. Used to love this during CFB season. Go to one game, pause it...swap tuners...watch another game until commercial...pause...swap, watch other game until I caught up to real time...etc...

Can't do this on HR20 afaik...I know there is a work around involving recording the show on each tuner, but it's more work then pressing "down" on the remote and just swapping tuners.


Just a couple of gripes...overall, I dig the unit for a lot of the reasons you listed above. faster menus, no waiting to record shows, etc.

Going to take some time to get used to it, though. Definitely made it more livable after turning off the bright blue ring (press the left arrow and right arrow at the same time on the unit itself about 4 times for those who don't know)...and changing the guide button to bring up the actual guide on the first button press instead of having to press it twice.
#1 will be fixed with the national release that is working it's way east.
#2 is called double live buffer and there is no time frame [yet] for it.

My HR20 will not play recordings while it is not getting a satellite signal. It is possible to get to the playlist page, but when I highlight a recording and hit select, the HR20 freezes up completely. Is there anyway around this? If not, I hope this will be addressed in a firmware update.

My HR20 will not play recordings while it is not getting a satellite signal. It is possible to get to the playlist page, but when I highlight a recording and hit select, the HR20 freezes up completely. Is there anyway around this? If not, I hope this will be addressed in a firmware update.What'cha tryin' to DO with it?!? Load it up with recorded shows and take it with you on vacation to watch 'em all? :D



On a similar note, the HR20 will not even BOOT w/o a satellite signal! I had a tech-support guy try to tell me that it SCANs the antenna for locals -- fact is, the locals are TUNED based on the channels my ZIP code indicates are in my viewing area. Hence, if the data D* sends down has an error, you may not be able to tune that channel.

What'cha tryin' to DO with it?!? Load it up with recorded shows and take it with you on vacation to watch 'em all?
No, my dish is out of alignment and until D* fixes it, it would be nice if I could watch my recorded shows. I expect that some other 5-lnb dish owners will have the same frustration this coming fall when the wind kicks up.

I am able to watch the recordings on my SD DirecTivo but nothing much is on.

No, my dish is out of alignment and until D* fixes it, it would be nice if I could watch my recorded shows. I expect that some other 5-lnb dish owners will have the same frustration this coming fall when the wind kicks up.

I am able to watch the recordings on my SD DirecTivo but nothing much is on.
This is a known bummer. It seems to really bite you during heavy storms. You lose signal [rain fade] and then have a power glitch, and you stuck with nothing until the SAT feed comes back.
D* tried to fix this in some test software, but it didn't work. Hopefully someday they will get it to work.

This is a known bummer. It seems to really bite you during heavy storms. You lose signal [rain fade] and then have a power glitch, and you stuck with nothing until the SAT feed comes back.
D* tried to fix this in some test software, but it didn't work. Hopefully someday they will get it to work.

I understand the inability to reboot without signal, but does losing sat signal really prevent one from watching what's already on your HD if your're still running? (I haven't tried yet) :(

I understand the inability to reboot without signal, but does losing sat signal really prevent one from watching what's already on your HD if your're still running? (I haven't tried yet) :(

No, it does not. If your unit is still running, you can still watch recorded programs without a satellite signal.

No, it does not. If your unit is still running, you can still watch recorded programs without a satellite signal.
Have you tried it or are you speaking theoretically? As I said, my HR20-100 freezes when I select a program from the playlist if there is no satellite signal. It happens every time.

I understand the inability to reboot without signal, but does losing sat signal really prevent one from watching what's already on your HD if your're still running? (I haven't tried yet) :(

(Posted by dg28)
No, it does not. If your unit is still running, you can still watch recorded programs without a satellite signal

(Posted by mgroups)
Have you tried it or are you speaking theoretically? As I said, my HR20-100 freezes when I select a program from the playlist if there is no satellite signal. It happens every time.



VOS,

We seek the truth. What say you! :)

To give you a confirmed answer...
We had a hard rain today and it knocked out our reception.
As usual, we where Able to watch every thing that was recorded.

Tom

Which is the newer model: HR20-100S or the HR20-700?? I see both models for sale on Ebay. Which would be the best option?
Tnx

To give you a confirmed answer...
We had a hard rain today and it knocked out our reception.
As usual, we where Able to watch every thing that was recorded.

Tom

Thanks. That makes much more sense. ;)

Which is the newer model: HR20-100S or the HR20-700?? I see both models for sale on Ebay. Which would be the best option?
Tnx
The 100 is newer (made by RCA)... I have this one and have had no issues..

I've got a 100 - no problems watching recorded programs during rain (when signal is lost), for that matter haven't had as much as a hiccup with this unit in any way. Very pleased.

Can't speak for the -100, but on my -700 I was able to watch shows from my hard drive while my dish was completely disconnected (during the 3lnb to 5lnb upgrade).

"the key" is not to lose power and causing a reset.
There was one user that sold D* at a mall. He connected his through a UPS and would carry it each day [both the HR-20 & UPS] to work still powered up so he could demo HD with no SAT feed at the mall.

Which is the newer model: HR20-100S or the HR20-700?? I see both models for sale on Ebay. Which would be the best option?
TnxThe 700 was introduced first, but one is not a "newer" design than the other. Just different manufacturers. There is no better option.

D* does not offer these for "sale" per se. They are leased units. Be careful on eBay that the seller is not "selling" something he does not own.

The 700 was introduced first, but one is not a "newer" design than the other. Just different manufacturers. There is no better option.

D* does not offer these for "sale" per se. They are leased units. Be careful on eBay that the seller is not "selling" something he does not own.
True... Costco is carrying these (700) on the shelf for $269.00, ask the folks there at the counter if these are owned or leased. I am guessing they too are "leases" - meaning they are not yours to sell.

"the key" is not to lose power and causing a reset.
There was one user that sold D* at a mall. He connected his through a UPS and would carry it each day [both the HR-20 & UPS] to work still powered up so he could demo HD with no SAT feed at the mall.
Well, what are the odds that someone will lose power during a storm, anyways? :D

My entire house is connected to an inverter system so if I am lucky I will be able to watch my recorded programs on the HR20 as the winds howl and the rain falls... Not an uncommon occurence here in "sunny" Florida.

Ed

"the key" is not to lose power and causing a reset.
There was one user that sold D* at a mall. He connected his through a UPS and would carry it each day [both the HR-20 & UPS] to work still powered up so he could demo HD with no SAT feed at the mall.Good trick!!!

Anyone else really cramped with only 50 shows allowed in the prioritizer? Without Tivo suggestions, I set a lot more series passes - and I have to delete one to add one. Even with the prioritizer full, I still only have a couple shows stored at any given time. The only solution would be to delete all the passes for shows as soon as they go on hiatus and then add them back later - what a PITA.

Yeah I'm at 49 and I've had to delete some and add some back. DBS Talk forums indicated that might be worked on?

But then again, I'm thinking maybe I watch too much TV.

True... Costco is carrying these (700) on the shelf for $269.00, ask the folks there at the counter if these are owned or leased. I am guessing they too are "leases" - meaning they are not yours to sell.Every box has a sticker on the side of it that says very clearly it is a lease.

http://i10.tinypic.com/4xw95k0.jpg

I'd get two HR20s. It's solves the prioritizer limit plus recording conflicts in one swell foop.

Here's my situation. Long time HD-Tivo user, premium DirecTV user for years. Getting ready to move to an HR20 with all the new MPEG4 HD programming coming in a couple of months. Problem is that the physical location of my installation isn't where DirecTV thinks it is (about 30 miles away, so that I can get certain programming not available where I live). If I call customer service to try to upgrade, they will want to send out somebody to change the dish from 3 LNB to 5 LNB at the time they bring in the new DVR. Anybody have a solution? I really don't want to lose the local stations I get now.

The quote below sounds promising, what is media share exactly?

"It does not have to be a ViiV PC. I have my HR20 networked with a Windows XP PC using WMP11 and it works just fine for Media Share."

The quote below sounds promising, what is media share exactly?

"It does not have to be a ViiV PC. I have my HR20 networked with a Windows XP PC using WMP11 and it works just fine for Media Share."
Music and photos stored on your PC can be viewed or listened to from the HR-20.
Not too exciting for me. ;)

Anybody have a solution? I really don't want to lose the local stations I get now.
Buy a slimline dish, & get your equipment from BB, CC, Costco, Fry's, etc.
Then do the install yourself.
Plan "B": have it installed at the "address on the account" and them move it yourself.

i have a HR20-700 and would like to know your opinions about its settings for use with my new pioneer 5080HD tv. Should i have 480i and 480p and 720p and 1080i checked for availability for the tv? Also - should i use native or 720p or 1080i for the output? Any other suggestions would be appreciated. (I will be using HDMI from the receiver to the tv.)

Thank you -

BTW i had Ultimate TV before i got the hr20-700 and i really liked it better.

i have a HR20-700 and would like to know your opinions about its settings for use with my new pioneer 5080HD tv. Should i have 480i and 480p and 720p and 1080i checked for availability for the tv? Also - should i use native or 720p or 1080i for the output? Any other suggestions would be appreciated. (I will be using HDMI from the receiver to the tv.)


I leave my HR20 at 720p. I had it set before to native but didn't like the constant resolution switching when changing channels. YMMV, but the HR20 scaler is pretty good and you don't need to use the TV's.

Deezul

I leave my HR20 at 720p. I had it set before to native but didn't like the constant resolution switching when changing channels. YMMV, but the HR20 scaler is pretty good and you don't need to use the TV's.

Deezul


thank you

i have a HR20-700 and would like to know your opinions about its settings for use with my new pioneer 5080HD tv. Should i have 480i and 480p and 720p and 1080i checked for availability for the tv? Also - should i use native or 720p or 1080i for the output? Any other suggestions would be appreciated. (I will be using HDMI from the receiver to the tv.)

Thank you -

BTW i had Ultimate TV before i got the hr20-700 and i really liked it better.
I don't have an HR20 yet, although I'm (reluctantly) about to do so to get the new HD channels. My HR10 does not have a pass through or native setting, so I have always left it at 1080i with good results. However, I found that that my new 5080 has terrific processing, and I get a much better picture by manually selecting 480i for SD programs and letting the 5080 do all the deinterlacing and scaling. The difference is significant. :cool:

Maybe the HR20 has a better deinterlacer/cscaler than the HR10, but I'd be surprised if that is true. I intend to use the native mode on the HR20, because I rarely channel surf , and for me the handshake delay is not as much of a factor as improved PQ. YMMV, as we all have different priorities. And, of course, actually living with an HR20 may alter my view.

Is there a way to pull saved content off the HR20 onto your PC for dvd burning?
Can you manage the device from outside your house via the Internet? ...schedule recordings Etc.
Thanks

If the HR20 misses an episode due to a conflict, does it automatically pick up the next available showing of that episode? I frequently allow conflicts for the cablenets because they typically repeat their originals numerous times throughout the week. However, I had to manually add in an episode of Eureka because it never recorded an alternate airing after a conflict during its original airing. Was this an isolated issue - or by design?

My HR20-700 received a new firmware update last night. It now has one previously missing feature that I really liked about my SD-Tivo. That is when fast forwarding then pressing 'play' the playback start point is a little before what was being displayed while in fast forward, thus eliminating most cases of over-running the start point of the program when fast forwarding thru commercials.

Is there a way to pull saved content off the HR20 onto your PC for dvd burning?
Can you manage the device from outside your house via the Internet? ...schedule recordings Etc.
Thanks
There is no way to pull the digital video, you can only output to a DVD recorder or a PC via the HD-20's analog outputs (e.g., S-Video + audio).

There is no way to pull the digital video, you can only output to a DVD recorder or a PC via the HD-20's analog outputs (e.g., S-Video + audio).
you can use a slingbox or hava

The 700 was introduced first, but one is not a "newer" design than the other. Just different manufacturers. There is no better option.


There is one difference between the 100 and 700 that could make the 100 be considered "better". It has a digital coax connection(along with the optical, also), which the 700 does not.

I guess What I meant to ask is since the HR20 now has a working ethernet port can you pull files off it like you can with tivo2go [or whatever its called].

With a tivo you can extract the files directly from the unit instead of playback/record thru the analog ports.

Rob

I guess What I meant to ask is since the HR20 now has a working ethernet port can you pull files off it like you can with tivo2go [or whatever its called].

With a tivo you can extract the files directly from the unit instead of playback/record thru the analog ports.

Rob
you can use a slingbox.

1) Turn off, then unplug the HR20
2) Plug the eSata cable into the HR20 and the external drive.
3) Power on the external drive and wait about 30 seconds
4) Plug the HR20 back in and turn it on.

All done.
I'm adding the eSata drive tomorrow. I can't believe that there's not more talk about this feature. The internal drive doesn't have near enough storage, and especially after 100 to 150 new HD channels are added. I'm going with the FreeAgent 750GB for now, but I can see where soon even that won't be enough. Perhaps someday DirecTV will include a Terabyte internal drive, but at least it's good to know that now you can easily add as much storage as you want or can afford.

At 4:30 am EDT my receiver said it had new software to download. Total process of download & reset took about 20 min. Under System Info, it shows:

Original Ver: 0x12a
Past Update: 0x17e today, 4:46 am

All seems OK. Did anyone else get this upgrade? My last ver. was 0x168.

Jim

I have the HR20-100. I found this on dbstalk. I assume it is the same for the 100.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1011464

My HR20-700 received a new firmware update last night. It now has one previously missing feature that I really liked about my SD-Tivo. That is when fast forwarding then pressing 'play' the playback start point is a little before what was being displayed while in fast forward, thus eliminating most cases of over-running the start point of the program when fast forwarding thru commercials.

At 4:30 am EDT my receiver said it had new software to download. Total process of download & reset took about 20 min. Under System Info, it shows:

Original Ver: 0x12a
Past Update: 0x17e today, 4:46 am

All seems OK. Did anyone else get this upgrade? My last ver. was 0x168.

I got my update for 0x12e Monday morning. :D Now that I can fast forward and stop without missing any programming, I truly am pleased with the 700. Now if they would send out an update allowing me to switch back and forth betwen the 2 buffers.....

Mick

Now if they would send out an update allowing me to switch back and forth betwen the 2 buffers.....
Mick
First they would have to create 2 buffers, which isn't even a plan theses days.

I got my update for 0x12e Monday morning. :D Now that I can fast forward and stop without missing any programming, I truly am pleased with the 700. Now if they would send out an update allowing me to switch back and forth betwen the 2 buffers.....

Mick

I hope you got 0x17e. I assume this update is for both the 700 and 100 HR20's.

Jim

I hope you got 0x17e. I assume this update is for both the 700 and 100 HR20's.

JimI have the 100 and the update hit. REALLY like the jumpback feature after stopping fastforwarding... :D

Is this one coming out now for the 100's as well?

It should be done for the -700s and in process for the -100s.

I hope you got 0x17e. I assume this update is for both the 700 and 100 HR20's.

Oops - you're right meant to type Ox17e. Thanks.

Mick

I'm adding the eSata drive tomorrow. I can't believe that there's not more talk about this feature. The internal drive doesn't have near enough storage, and especially after 100 to 150 new HD channels are added. I'm going with the FreeAgent 750GB for now, but I can see where soon even that won't be enough. Perhaps someday DirecTV will include a Terabyte internal drive, but at least it's good to know that now you can easily add as much storage as you want or can afford.

Quick question: can you transport the external drive from one HR20 to another and retain access to the recordings?

jdg

Quick question: can you transport the external drive from one HR20 to another and retain access to the recordings?
jdg
Nope, the recordings are "coded" to the DVR.
That would make too much sense if you had two HR-20s and could move the drive over to the other one and view the contents there.

I connected the Seagate FreeAgent today and it went extremely smooth. After reading the other forums discussing connecting a eSata drive, I learned that having the right cable is really important. I got the SIIG eSataII compliant 2 meter cable from newegg. It fits and works perfectly. Some people are getting standard eSata cables and having to trim the plastic off the connectors, but again this SIIG cable is a perfect fit without any trimming. I'm posting this because it took me a lot of searching to find which cable to get. After connecting the drive and powering it up I then powered up the DVR and after the guide data loaded it was up and running. I highly recommend doing this if you want more recording time on the HR20. BTW my DVR updated to 17e last Friday(maybe because I'm on the west coast) and there's no problem using the external drive with the new software.

I guess What I meant to ask is since the HR20 now has a working ethernet port can you pull files off it like you can with tivo2go [or whatever its called].

With a tivo you can extract the files directly from the unit instead of playback/record thru the analog ports.

you can use a slingbox.Excuse my slingbox ignorance but what file format and what quality can you get with a slingbox? Is it about the same as you would get with a DVD recorder via svideo and stereo analog audio? Thanks.

Jay

Excuse my slingbox ignorance but what file format and what quality can you get with a slingbox? Is it about the same as you would get with a DVD recorder via svideo and stereo analog audio? Thanks.

Jay
http://us.slingmedia.com/page/slingboxpro.html

http://us.slingmedia.com/page/slingboxpro.htmlThanks for the link. I have read the marketing stuff before, but I still don't see how to record (extract) or what format or quality level you can get. Is this a standard feature or do you need to use a hack or 3rd party stuff to capture? Any slingbox users out there using it to capture HD? Thanks.

Jay

Thanks for the link. I have read the marketing stuff before, but I still don't see how to record (extract) or what format or quality level you can get. Is this a standard feature or do you need to use a hack or 3rd party stuff to capture? Any slingbox users out there using it to capture HD? Thanks.
Jay
Sorry, I don't have one and the link was more than I even knew other than reading posts on forums from people that love it.
If you're trying to capture HD content, in HD, there aren't too many [if any] options.

VOS,

Both BBCs on my HR-20 passed the test as described. However my H-20 just showed a black screen. I called D* and the CSR went to great pains ascertaining which set the replacement BBC was for, saying that the BBCs for the H-20 were different from those for the HR-20. ????????

Is that true? Isn't the pass for the test the same for the H-20, that is " searching for sat (771)"

A bit OT but maybe you can shed some light on this. The above H-20 which sat for several months, I just reactivated for my daughter's new tv. I went in to reset the sat to 5lnb and ran the setup. It failed to acquire sat "99" several times and would not show locals in HD.

One hour with a D* tech person and several resets, multiswitch setting change, and sat resets later, same results.
We set up an appointment for this morning.

By this morning the H-20 was still not showing local HD stations in the HD filter guide, but it did show them in the "all stations" guide and received the local HD stations just fine.

Service rep fiddled for 11/2 hr. resetting the sats, checking the lines and multiswitch, and even bringing in a new H-20. Both new and old boxed show the same things.

Both fail sat "99"
Both show and receive HD locals in "all channels" guide
Both show no HD locals in the HD filtered guide.
Both show a black screen on channel 499 test. (tested 2 BBCs)

The D* service tech kind of shrugged, saying a lot the the H-20s fail sat 99, but it doesn't mean anything because it's not broadcasting yet. Still I have the feeling that failing sat 99 and failing the BBC test is going to bite us soon.

Your thoughts? Thanks you in advance. :confused:

I apologize for asking what I believe to be a common question. I've searched and cannot find an answer:

I called DirecTV and requested two HR20s. I was told that they would only lease me one. I know that Circuit City and Best Buy (among others) sell/lease these boxes and I assume i can just get another one there. But will D* activate it? Circuit City's website says "not more than one HD-DVR receiver may be leased in a given year."

Do I need to worry? Or is this a non-issue.

Thanks

VOS,

Both BBCs on my HR-20 passed the test as described. However my H-20 just showed a black screen. I called D* and the CSR went to great pains ascertaining which set the replacement BBC was for, saying that the BBCs for the H-20 were different from those for the HR-20. ????????

Is that true? Isn't the pass for the test the same for the H-20, that is " searching for sat (771)"

A bit OT but maybe you can shed some light on this. The above H-20 which sat for several months, I just reactivated for my daughter's new tv. I went in to reset the sat to 5lnb and ran the setup. It failed to acquire sat "99" several times and would not show locals in HD.

One hour with a D* tech person and several resets, multiswitch setting change, and sat resets later, same results.
We set up an appointment for this morning.

By this morning the H-20 was still not showing local HD stations in the HD filter guide, but it did show them in the "all stations" guide and received the local HD stations just fine.

Service rep fiddled for 11/2 hr. resetting the sats, checking the lines and multiswitch, and even bringing in a new H-20. Both new and old boxed show the same things.

Both fail sat "99"
Both show and receive HD locals in "all channels" guide
Both show no HD locals in the HD filtered guide.
Both show a black screen on channel 499 test. (tested 2 BBCs)

The D* service tech kind of shrugged, saying a lot the the H-20s fail sat 99, but it doesn't mean anything because it's not broadcasting yet. Still I have the feeling that failing sat 99 and failing the BBC test is going to bite us soon.

Your thoughts? Thanks you in advance. :confused:
:confused: we're talking about the H20 in the HR-20 thread? :confused:
Anyway:
1) the which "BBC" is so they know to send you one or two [one or the H20 & two for the HR-20, duh].
2) the fail 99 SAT is due to software. They still haven't fixed it. The -100 & the -600 fail different SATs [one the 99 and the other the 103] even those my local HD channels come in fine from the "failed" SAT.
3) you can try the "reset everything" for your guide to see and have D* resend your authorization and see if that helps. If you do get them in the all channels, then it sounds like a minor glitch and since the favorite guide will most likely be used [if you're like me] just make sure to have them in there.

I apologize for asking what I believe to be a common question. I've searched and cannot find an answer:

I called DirecTV and requested two HR20s. I was told that they would only lease me one. I know that Circuit City and Best Buy (among others) sell/lease these boxes and I assume i can just get another one there. But will D* activate it? Circuit City's website says "not more than one HD-DVR receiver may be leased in a given year."

Do I need to worry? Or is this a non-issue.

Thanks
I have yet to hear D* say that they wouldn't take someone's money.
"Deals" do seem to be limited to one per year [or every six months].
I got my second HR-20 about 3-4 months after my first and had no problem.

...I got my second HR-20 about 3-4 months after my first and had no problem.So you're paying for two DirecTV DVR subscriptions at $5.99/each with that? How's one go about getting a BLACK HR20-100b?

So you're paying for two DirecTV DVR subscriptions at $5.99/each with that?
$5.99/month is the DVR fee for the account.
$4.99/month is the fee for an additional receiver

How's one go about getting a BLACK HR20-100B?
Either go back in time when they were for sale/lease or find a retailer with one still in stock [rare].

Thanks. That's pretty cool... I always thought they charged a $4.99/mo 'mirror' fee for each additional box, but that was in the day where each box had a single tuner. With these multi-tuner boxes, the customer can record multi-programs -- essentially recording more than you could have even viewed. This is a better deal for the consumer... and charging a single DVR fee, wow. I'd have thought it was a per DVR unit!

I'm working a few contacts at D* on the black model but wondered how the average consumer was to approach this -- it's not like they don't ADVERTISE they have a Black HD-DVR in their commercials ;-)

Thanks. I'm working a few contacts at D* on the black model but wondered how the average consumer was to approach this -- it's not like they don't ADVERTISE they have a Black HD-DVR in their commercials ;-)
it's not like they don't ADVERTISE they had a Black HD-DVR in their commercials.

You might find the H/HR21 to be black [whenever they come out]:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=876242

it's not like they don't ADVERTISE they had a Black HD-DVR in their commercials.Nooooooooooooooo :( I thought the HR20-100 was their NEWEST model, the -100s was Silver and the -100b, Black. Why would they be abandoning their latest model so soon? Although my sources HAVE told me the -100b is a high-gloss Black finish that costs a bit more to produce, hence their rarity.

And as far as your other thread -- I can see D* wanting to get everyone using mpeg-4 for locals, but my antenna does a great job bringing in those OTA mpeg-2 ATSC channels and ALL their sub-channels in their broadcast (high data rate) format :)

Thanks for the link. I have read the marketing stuff before, but I still don't see how to record (extract) or what format or quality level you can get. Is this a standard feature or do you need to use a hack or 3rd party stuff to capture? Any slingbox users out there using it to capture HD? Thanks.

Jay
I have a hava which is a slingbox clone... www.monsoonmultimedia.com
It will take S-Video, Component or AV feeds (only the higher end Slingboxes will take HD) the hava was cheaper and virtually identical in features...
you just feed it a signal (s-video or Component) and it outputs a decent picture to your networked computer in the house, you can then record this signal (with included hava software) onto your harddrive, then burn said recording to DVD.. Out of network viewing is pretty good as well, just not nearly as pretty as in network... Same for Slingbox..

Nooooooooooooooo :( I thought the HR20-100 was their NEWEST model, the -100s was Silver and the -100b, Black. Why would they be abandoning their latest model so soon? Although my sources HAVE told me the -100b is a high-gloss Black finish that costs a bit more to produce, hence their rarity.
And as far as your other thread -- I can see D* wanting to get everyone using mpeg-4 for locals, but my antenna does a great job bringing in those OTA mpeg-2 ATSC channels and ALL their sub-channels in their broadcast (high data rate) format :)
There was a short run of black ones, with no follow on it seems.
The HR-20 isn't being discontinued.
I believe D* is adding a cheaper cousin to their line up.

Anyone else having a problem with their "Crop" aspect setting after the latest update? My crop, whether 720p or 480i frequently over-zooms. Sometimes it corrects itself immediately, sometimes it may take 5 or 10 minutes to correct - or I have to get out and replay repeatedly until it properly adjusts the picture.

With all the new letterboxed SD shows on basic cable, this is a major issue.

Anyone else having a problem with their "Crop" aspect setting after the latest update? My crop, whether 720p or 480i frequently over-zooms. Sometimes it corrects itself immediately, sometimes it may take 5 or 10 minutes to correct - or I have to get out and replay repeatedly until it properly adjusts the picture.

With all the new letterboxed SD shows on basic cable, this is a major issue.

It's a longstanding issue. See this DBSTalk thread:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=87960&highlight=super+crop

It's driving me nuts, too. Apparently it's been around for more than five software upgrades. The latest upgrade seems to improve it slightly, but sooner or later the problem returns after a red-button-reset.

I had the problem in the 168 upgrade. After I got the latest upgrade, the problem was still there. A red-button-reset cured it. This was about five days ago. The experience of others suggests that the problem will recur.

FWIW, VOS supplied me with a workaround until D* gets around to fixing it. If you leave the HR20 on Stretch Mode, you can use the Zoom control on your TV to get a satisfactory picture on letterboxed programs. On my XBR, the Stretch Mode (HR20)/Zoom(XBR) combination produces a picture identical to Crop Mode (when it is working the way it should).

Burt

Update: After five days, the bug is back.

I didn't have the issue until the latest upgrade. The problem with the workaround is it will chop off the sides. I'd rather watch it letterboxed in a picture frame and just sacrifice the size.

I didn't have the issue until the latest upgrade. The problem with the workaround is it will chop off the sides. I'd rather watch it letterboxed in a picture frame and just sacrifice the size.
This sounds like you have a bit too much overscan in your TV.

The super crop bug isn't as big a problem as it used to be, but it does need to be fixed IMO. I agree that there is plenty of letter-boxed programming that I want to see "zoomed." My Samsung TV doesn't let me use the workaround VOS suggests, so I want this fixed.

It appears that I may be in the minority on this one, but in the latest "upgrade", I totally cannot stand the "jumpback" feature! I find it to be extremely annoying. I thought that was what the 6 second button was for.

Let me just say that I use fast foward a lot during baseball games... in between batters and even between pitches. If I am trying to fast forward through a baseball game in speed 1, how hard is it to hit play at the exact moment? I don't need the DVR automatically backing me up another 6 seconds every time I hit the play button after fast forwarding. Kind of defeats the purpose of fast forwarding. GEEZ!

Oh well. I had to vent. I just wish they could give us the option of turning this new jumpback feature on or off. Some of us has faster reflexes than others.

It appears that I may be in the minority on this one, but in the latest "upgrade", I totally cannot stand the "jumpback" feature! I find it to be extremely annoying. I thought that was what the 6 second button was for.

Let me just say that I use fast foward a lot during baseball games... in between batters and even between pitches. If I am trying to fast forward through a baseball game in speed 1, how hard is it to hit play at the exact moment? I don't need the DVR automatically backing me up another 6 seconds every time I hit the play button after fast forwarding. Kind of defeats the purpose of fast forwarding. GEEZ!

Oh well. I had to vent. I just wish they could give us the option of turning this new jumpback feature on or off. Some of us has faster reflexes than others.
Well how about the option to turn it off?
I think you'll find it under the front panel menu [info & menu, both]. It's there on mine.

Just found out how to turn off the "autocorrect" FF feature that I was just complaining about. Thanks to dbstalk.com.

Here's how to do it for the two people out there that don't like it:

Press menu-->search-->keyword-->type "IAMANEDGECUTTER"-->continue-->all Then when it finds nothing press and hold the menu and info button on the front of the HR20 together for 2 seconds and let go. The hidden menu will pop up where you can then turn off the autocorrect feature.

Thanks veryoldschool. You must have been replying same time as me!

"Jumpback" is useful to me on FF speed 3, but on speed 1 it messes up the function. Guess I'll turn it off for best overall performance.

"Jumpback" is useful to me on FF speed 3, but on speed 1 it messes up the function. Guess I'll turn it off for best overall performance.
I have not really not a real analysis, but in my 5 minutes of playing with this, it appears the faster you zoom ahead, the more it compensates. So FF 1 equals a lesser jump back than FF4..

One question I do have is this. I am watching a show from my list. Hit pause, then go watch a live show. I go back to the list, go to my folder and hit play... It starts from the beginning. How do I get the list shows to remember where they were a la TIVO?

I see D* sent a message to my HR20 about new HD channels... is this JUST a teaser, or have they added any yet?

I have not really not a real analysis, but in my 5 minutes of playing with this, it appears the faster you zoom ahead, the more it compensates. So FF 1 equals a lesser jump back than FF4..

One question I do have is this. I am watching a show from my list. Hit pause, then go watch a live show. I go back to the list, go to my folder and hit play... It starts from the beginning. How do I get the list shows to remember where they were a la TIVO?
Don't hit pause. Use stop, or the previous [under channel up/down] and then it will restart where you left.

I see D* sent a message to my HR20 about new HD channels... is this JUST a teaser, or have they added any yet?
Next month [Sept] the new SAT [D10] is to start transmitting.

Next month [Sept] the new SAT [D10] is to start transmitting.


Any word on what new HD channels will *really* be added next?

thx

bob

Any word on what new HD channels will *really* be added next?
thx
bob
"really".... no.
Sept 14th was the last posted.
It all depends on how well the testing of D10 goes.

"really".... no.
Sept 14th was the last posted.
It all depends on how well the testing of D10 goes.
I think the question was What not neccesarily When.

Don't hit pause. Use stop, or the previous [under channel up/down] and then it will restart where you left.

I think folks are used to the TiVo jump back - it doesn't exit on FF1, but does on FF2 and FF3.

Now if only they'd add Closed Captioning on FF1, I'd dump my HD TiVos!

Deezul

I did a search on this thread, but I couldn't find an answer. Is anyone using a UPS (batter backup) for the HR20? I'm thinking of getting one, but I'm not exactly sure which ones people have had success with. I've used APC products for my PC and they have worked quite well.

Some very newb questions.
1. Do I have to plug the APC UPS directly into the wall socket? I have two Tripplite surge protectors that I use now. Can I daisy chain the UPS into the Tripplite?
2. Any recommendations on particular brands/models? I don't really have a budget, but I'd like to keep it under $200.
3. I was originally only planning on connecting the HR20 to the backup outlet. I'm not sure if my JVC LCOS will overload the UPS if the power goes out. I'll have to check out the power draw. Do I simply look at the voltage draw in the manual and compare it to the UPS max?

I think the question was What not neccesarily When.
I won't know the "what" until I see the "when".
There is just too much "press release hype" for me. 150 channels? there aren't that many providers.
80 channels? I don't know.
I have seen more SD channel new season shows being shown in 16:9, which to me looks like more providers are getting ready for HD.

My brand new HR-20 stops displaying TV after a while and displays "Cannot Read Access Card Ext 745". A hard reset using the red button behind the card door solves the problem for a while, then it reverts. DTV is sending another card.

Any have this issue before?

I did a search on this thread, but I couldn't find an answer. Is anyone using a UPS (batter backup) for the HR20? I'm thinking of getting one, but I'm not exactly sure which ones people have had success with. I've used APC products for my PC and they have worked quite well.

Some very newb questions.
1. Do I have to plug the APC UPS directly into the wall socket? I have two Tripplite surge protectors that I use now. Can I daisy chain the UPS into the Tripplite?
2. Any recommendations on particular brands/models? I don't really have a budget, but I'd like to keep it under $200.
3. I was originally only planning on connecting the HR20 to the backup outlet. I'm not sure if my JVC LCOS will overload the UPS if the power goes out. I'll have to check out the power draw. Do I simply look at the voltage draw in the manual and compare it to the UPS max?
1: Daisy chaining shouldn't be a problem but check with the manufacter.
2: Alot of folks here in this forum are using a unit from Pure AV, its under $400 and they are very happy with it. Search this forum.
3: Look at the CURRENT draw for your devices, but I'll bet you can plug both into what ever UPS you buy.

Regards,

Ok, here's the situation.
I was watching Flight of The Conchords last night. I started it from my list about 10 minutes into the show (so the recording is 10 min ahead) and about 5 minutes before the scheudled end of the show, my power went out for about 1 min. After the 5 minute reboot, the show had already ended, so I was not expecting the HR20-100 to pick it up, as it was already over. I was puzzled when I went to my list. The show was there. I hit play, it started at the very beginning and the time bar said I had 25 minutes (Which is what it should have said). Then, about 30 sec into the recording - and way before the 15 min point I had watched already), the menu popped up asking if I wanted to keep or delete the show. I said keep and tried about 4x, always the same result... Was this a bizarre one time glitch or is it possible that a power outage on an incomplete recording would actually corrupt the portion of the show that was already recorded prior to the outage? It was no big deal since HBO runs stuff all the time so I can catch it 2 hours later on HBOW but if this were a network show, I'd be annoyed.. Any other users have any input?

Ok, here's the situation.
I was watching Flight of The Conchords last night. I started it from my list about 10 minutes into the show (so the recording is 10 min ahead) and about 5 minutes before the scheudled end of the show, my power went out for about 1 min. After the 5 minute reboot, the show had already ended, so I was not expecting the HR20-100 to pick it up, as it was already over. I was puzzled when I went to my list. The show was there. I hit play, it started at the very beginning and the time bar said I had 25 minutes (Which is what it should have said). Then, about 30 sec into the recording - and way before the 15 min point I had watched already), the menu popped up asking if I wanted to keep or delete the show. I said keep and tried about 4x, always the same result... Was this a bizarre one time glitch or is it possible that a power outage on an incomplete recording would actually corrupt the portion of the show that was already recorded prior to the outage? It was no big deal since HBO runs stuff all the time so I can catch it 2 hours later on HBOW but if this were a network show, I'd be annoyed.. Any other users have any input?

Sounds a lot like a problem fixed some time ago, if you were not watching a program in real time, or at least were not caught up with it by skipping commercials if you started watching after the program began, it would delete once the program ended, or if you tried to watch from the playlist it would only give you the delete yes or no option. ;)

So after reading about B band converters, I installed one, all satellite signals were lost and had to remove it. D* said to leave it out until a new satellite comes online. They said September 1. Am I supposed to try it every night until it works, it is a real pain to get behind the cabinet where the receiver is. :rolleyes:

I did a search on this thread, but I couldn't find an answer. Is anyone using a UPS (batter backup) for the HR20? I'm thinking of getting one, but I'm not exactly sure which ones people have had success with. I've used APC products for my PC and they have worked quite well.

Some very newb questions.
1. Do I have to plug the APC UPS directly into the wall socket? I have two Tripplite surge protectors that I use now. Can I daisy chain the UPS into the Tripplite?
2. Any recommendations on particular brands/models? I don't really have a budget, but I'd like to keep it under $200.
3. I was originally only planning on connecting the HR20 to the backup outlet. I'm not sure if my JVC LCOS will overload the UPS if the power goes out. I'll have to check out the power draw. Do I simply look at the voltage draw in the manual and compare it to the UPS max?

I bought a TrippLite Omni900LCD from Buy.com. This will give you five minutes at about 600 watts. Their current price is $112.99 with free shipping. This one costs less because you're not supposed to be able to change the batteries yourself but they have plenty of other models to choose from.

They strongly recommend plugging it straight into the wall, stating that using even an extension cord voids the warranty. How it can tell an extension cord from house wiring, I'll never know.

They warn that you should not plug it into a surge protector, but you should be able to plug a surge protector into the UPS.

One of the best reasons IMO for having a battery backup is so a one-second power flicker won't cause to fifteen-minute reset of the HR-20.

So after reading about B band converters, I installed one, all satellite signals were lost and had to remove it. D* said to leave it out until a new satellite comes online. They said September 1. Am I supposed to try it every night until it works, it is a real pain to get behind the cabinet where the receiver is. :rolleyes:You may have a bad BBC, you can go to this website (http://directv.qrs1.net/bbc/bbcForm.jsp) and order free replacement(s). You need one for an H20, or two for an HR20. Be sure you install them correctly.

I did a search on this thread, but I couldn't find an answer. Is anyone using a UPS (batter backup) for the HR20? I'm thinking of getting one, but I'm not exactly sure which ones people have had success with. I've used APC products for my PC and they have worked quite well.

3. I was originally only planning on connecting the HR20 to the backup outlet. I'm not sure if my JVC LCOS will overload the UPS if the power goes out. I'll have to check out the power draw. Do I simply look at the voltage draw in the manual and compare it to the UPS max?I have an APC connected to my home theater system which includes a JVC HD-ILA (LCOS) set. Never any issues with them (use several). I use my UPSs to bridge from a powerloss to generator kick-in... just 20 seconds...

So after reading about B band converters, I installed one, all satellite signals were lost and had to remove it. D* said to leave it out until a new satellite comes online. They said September 1. Am I supposed to try it every night until it works, it is a real pain to get behind the cabinet where the receiver is. :rolleyes:
That sounds like a bad BBC which is quite common. Call D* and have them send out a replacement(s) [you need two]. They will do this for free. [They send me six as I had five out of six fail the 499 channel test].

That sounds like a bad BBC which is quite common. Call D* and have them send out a replacement(s) [you need two]. They will do this for free. [They send me six as I had five out of six fail the 499 channel test].

Actually, I need 4, two H-20's and an HR 20. I will try all of the ones I have (I did save them all when I got them) in the one tv that is easy to get to and see if all block signals.

Thanks for the info, D* tech support does not always seem to be run by people likely to spend a December evening in Stockholm collecting a lot of money. :)

Actually, I need 4, two H-20's and an HR 20. I will try all of the ones I have (I did save them all when I got them) in the one tv that is easy to get to and see if all block signals.

Thanks for the info, D* tech support does not always seem to be run by people likely to spend a December evening in Stockholm collecting a lot of money. :)
"An evening in Stockholm"? LOL
They're lucky to find their way to work.

1: Daisy chaining shouldn't be a problem but check with the manufacter.
2: Alot of folks here in this forum are using a unit from Pure AV, its under $400 and they are very happy with it. Search this forum.
3: Look at the CURRENT draw for your devices, but I'll bet you can plug both into what ever UPS you buy.

Regards,
I use an APC 1250-watt UPS.

FWIW, the instructions state emphatically to NOT use with any other surge suppressor and to plug the UPS unit directly into the wall.

Actually, I need 4, two H-20's and an HR 20. I will try all of the ones I have (I did save them all when I got them) in the one tv that is easy to get to and see if all block signals. If all fail, another possibility is having the wrong multiswitch. A Zinwell WB68 is what you should have. Older 8 output multiswitches won't handle the B band properly.

:confused: When the screen saver kicks in, I just press any button and it goes away.
With me it kicks in when I've paused, so I press pause again & then a second time to "unpause".

Trouble is I installed a slimline dish myself today using a rf network video camera looking at signal strenght on HR-20 receiver with a laptop. Screen saver kicks in and I had to climb down off roof and reset, go back up and finish. I couldn't find any reference on how to disable.

For years I've used a plumbing vent pipe on roof to mount my dish. I have never seen anyone else mention doing it that way. I mount a pipe to vent using commercial 6db 150 mhz antenna mounting kit which if you get the one that completely bolts together (no welded center piece) it can easily be plumbed level also use same pipe for ota yagi mount.

Roy

If all fail, another possibility is having the wrong multiswitch. A Zinwell WB68 is what you should have. Older 8 output multiswitches won't handle the B band properly.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I have the Zinwell :)

Trouble is I installed a slimline dish myself today using a rf network video camera looking at signal strenght on HR-20 receiver with a laptop. Screen saver kicks in and I had to climb down off roof and reset, go back up and finish. I couldn't find any reference on how to disable.

For years I've used a plumbing vent pipe on roof to mount my dish. I have never seen anyone else mention doing it that way. I mount a pipe to vent using commercial 6db 150 mhz antenna mounting kit which if you get the one that completely bolts together (no welded center piece) it can easily be plumbed level also use same pipe for ota yagi mount.

Roy
Well in that case, "all you need to do is": [famous last words] program the remote for RF and take it up on the roof with you.

Well in that case, "all you need to do is": [famous last words] program the remote for RF and take it up on the roof with you.

Forgot, I tried that and remote wouldn't work. There is even a screen item that says if it doesn't work select return to IR from front panel, so I guess RF isn't the cure all.

Roy

Thanks for the suggestions on the UPS. I was looking around a few of the sites and have another quick question.

Does the HR20 record from the satellite even when the power is out? I saw a post on the DBS forum and was a little confused. I would assume that OTA would still record.

"Also, if you're trying to be able to record during an outage, don't forget to put your multiswitch (if you have one) on a UPS, too."

Thanks for the suggestions on the UPS. I was looking around a few of the sites and have another quick question.

Does the HR20 record from the satellite even when the power is out? I saw a post on the DBS forum and was a little confused. I would assume that OTA would still record.

"Also, if you're trying to be able to record during an outage, don't forget to put your multiswitch (if you have one) on a UPS, too."
The dish LNBs are power my the receiver, if you have an external powered multi-switch [which would have to be the Zinwell WB616], it too would need to be powered.
If everything is run off a generator or UPS, then you should be able to record until you lose SAT signal or run out of power. OTA may last a bit longer after the loss of SAT signal.

Forgot, I tried that and remote wouldn't work. There is even a screen item that says if it doesn't work select return to IR from front panel, so I guess RF isn't the cure all.
Roy
Some models have been defective [weak] for RF.
Mine works through wall and as far as I can be and see/hear my TV.
D* claims it's range is 200'.

The dish LNBs are power my the receiver, if you have an external powered multi-switch [which would have to be the Zinwell WB616], it too would need to be powered.
If everything is run off a generator or UPS, then you should be able to record until you lose SAT signal or run out of power. OTA may last a bit longer after the loss of SAT signal.
I just ran outside and checked the multi-switch. It's a WB68. Solid Signal says the "Multiswitch is passive, powered only by the connected satellite receivers. "

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=WB68

Would I be fine with just the UPS on the HR20 then to record during power loss?

I just ran outside and checked the multi-switch. It's a WB68. Solid Signal says the "Multiswitch is passive, powered only by the connected satellite receivers. "

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=WB68

Would I be fine with just the UPS on the HR20 then to record during power loss?
"Should be"
UPS powers > receiver, powers > dish > signal > multi-switch > receiver [goal!]

Much thanks.

I've been working this through D*s CS with no result. I've been a long-term (10-years+) D* subscriber and with the new HR20 I can only tune the channels D* says I can get in my ZIP code. Problem is, there's an obvious error in that there are two channel 25-3's listed! Clearly the second is supposed to be 25-4 but I can't get APTV, D*, ZAP2it, or TMS to correct it. My old Samsung SIR-TS160 would include both 25-3 listings and a Regular Programming entry for 25-4. But that's because it had the ability to SCAN the antenna for stations... not so for the HR20.

This is not a reception issue. I can tune 25-4 on my RCA 210, Samsung TS160, ATi HDTV-Wonder, and Hauppauge HVR-1600 but NOT on the HR20-100s. The position of CS (after opening two Service Requests, waiting nearly 2 weeks, and contacting THEM for a status) is along the lines that they can't offer any resolution since it's an OTA issue and I'm not paying for it... It may improve in the future and I should feel free to delete the listing from my line-up if I would like.

Notice that I had to call THEM -- doesn't speak well of the "service" in CS.

D* seems to have a huge hole in their customer support structure. This is not the first time I've had open tickets to be escalated, never to be heard from again -- even when specifically seeking their status. They have a "Service Level" (internal language for where an escalated issue is directed) but they're not accountable to resolve or report issues and you're not allowed to speak with them. I know their engineering dept never gets notified of issues -- at least these that were "elevated" for me. They have a mountain of staff, supervisors, Service Level team members, engineering and Installation Support Services are all working hard to do their job creating tickets and passing them along but they aren't communicating, can't transfer messages across databases, and hence issues go unresolved, unmentioned and are not trackable. :-(

I know the solution to THIS guide/tuning problem lies with the broadcaster to update this error but was attempting to get D* to assist. After all, D* is a paying customer of TMS, and I'm paying D*. I'll save any rant for later. Thanks.

Is the HR-20 capable of outputting HD and SD signals simultaneously? I have a HD projector that I use for primary viewing, but I don't like to leave it on all the time due to the cost of bulb replacement, so I use an SD TV for random viewing and channel surfing.

Can I have the Component outputs of the HR-20 hooked up to my projector and the S-Video output hooked up to my SD TV? Will it output in both formats simultaneously, or will I have to constantly change some menu setting to switch back and forth?

I read somewhere that ALL outputs of the HR20 are on at the same time.
Rob

i am going to upgrade to the 5 LNB dish soon and am planning on getting HD DVR ...I have never had a DVR...Since it has 2 tuners can you watch 2 differ programs on 2 differ T.V.'s at same time....I am going to try and sift thru this large thread to educate myself on this DVR...Any other sites to get info?...

Thanks...Rick

i am going to upgrade to the 5 LNB dish soon and am planning on getting HD DVR ...I have never had a DVR...Since it has 2 tuners can you watch 2 differ programs on 2 differ T.V.'s at same time....I am going to try and sift thru this large thread to educate myself on this DVR...Any other sites to get info?...

Thanks...Rick

Sorry, but that won't work. One tuner can send a signal to a TV while the other tuner records on the hard drive but all video outputs will all be fed by the same tuner (as nikknightt said).

I read somewhere that ALL outputs of the HR20 are on at the same time.
Rob
Absolutely, all outputs are done simultaneously on the HR20 - I have my HDMI going to TV - toslink to Surround Sound and my S-Video & RCA jacks feeding my sligbox all at the same time. This is a MAJOR improvement from the HD Tivo that Dtv used to have.

i am going to upgrade to the 5 LNB dish soon and am planning on getting HD DVR ...I have never had a DVR...Since it has 2 tuners can you watch 2 differ programs on 2 differ T.V.'s at same time....I am going to try and sift thru this large thread to educate myself on this DVR...Any other sites to get info?...

Thanks...Rick
Alas, the prior poster is correct. The Directv HR20 will not output 2 different chanels, but the Dish Network HDDVR will let you feed two different tv's different channels (one hd one sd) at the same time. You will LOVE the HR20, especially since you have no Tivo hangups like some folks have/had (I used to be one). go to www.dbstalk.com for more in depth discussion.

Is the HR-20 capable of outputting HD and SD signals simultaneously? I have a HD projector that I use for primary viewing, but I don't like to leave it on all the time due to the cost of bulb replacement, so I use an SD TV for random viewing and channel surfing.

Can I have the Component outputs of the HR-20 hooked up to my projector and the S-Video output hooked up to my SD TV? Will it output in both formats simultaneously, or will I have to constantly change some menu setting to switch back and forth?

Yes. When you are on an HD channel it may have small bars on the sides of the picture on your SD TV but that's OK it will look good.

I finally bit the bullet and ordered a HR20 to replace my much loved HR10-250. Unlike the delight and anticipation I felt when I ordered the HR10, I am not eager for the new box, as it still seems like a problem infested downgrade. :eek: I have to remind myself that happy, trouble free owners don't post here often, only those that have problems. And that most of the problems I've read about here were solved long ago.

Guess I'll find out for myself how bad/good the HR20 is on Monday, when my installation is scheduled. In any case, I'm sure I'll get over my angst quickly enough when the all those new HD channels start to appear. :cool:

Credit to D* though. The ordering process was painless... once I got through their telephone system and the ensuing language barrier. :rolleyes: No hassle and no charge (other than shipping/handling, which is nominal enough). :) Hopefully, the installation will go just as smoothly.

I finally bit the bullet and ordered a HR20 to replace my much loved HR10-250. Unlike the delight and anticipation I felt when I ordered the HR10, I am not eager for the new box, as it still seems like a problem infested downgrade. :eek: I have to remind myself that happy, trouble free owners don't post here often, only those that have problems. And that most of the problems I've read about here were solved long ago.

Guess I'll find out for myself how bad/good the HR20 is on Monday, when my installation is scheduled. In any case, I'm sure I'll get over my angst quickly enough when the all those new HD channels start to appear. :cool:

Credit to D* though. The ordering process was painless... once I got through their telephone system and the ensuing language barrier. :rolleyes: No hassle and no charge (other than shipping/handling, which is nominal enough). :) Hopefully, the installation will go just as smoothly.
Required reading for you
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=69404

I was very very skeptical, but the HR20 is a darn good DVR, it even has some features that Tivo does not have. Caller ID, Playing all shows in a folder in order, surfing channels allowed while watching recorded stuff, the ability to output SD and HD at the same time (very nice if you have a VCR, Slingbox, DVD recorder etc).
I just ordered my 2nd from DTV and am actually ditching my old SD Tivo (this means I no longer have to pay $7.99 protection/mo, I'll drop down to $5.99/mo since these are leased, not owned).

I finally bit the bullet and ordered a HR20 to replace my much loved HR10-250. Unlike the delight and anticipation I felt when I ordered the HR10, I am not eager for the new box, as it still seems like a problem infested downgrade. :eek: I have to remind myself that happy, trouble free owners don't post here often, only those that have problems. And that most of the problems I've read about here were solved long ago.

Guess I'll find out for myself how bad/good the HR20 is on Monday, when my installation is scheduled. In any case, I'm sure I'll get over my angst quickly enough when the all those new HD channels start to appear. :cool:

Credit to D* though. The ordering process was painless... once I got through their telephone system and the ensuing language barrier. :rolleyes: No hassle and no charge (other than shipping/handling, which is nominal enough). :) Hopefully, the installation will go just as smoothly.
I've got twins. At first it was rough [last fall], but they haven't missed a beat since Feb.
Do wring out the system to make sure everything works. Some of the biggest problems come down to a poor installation or defective hardware. You will be the end user and must make sure everything works within the first 90 days for the free service calls/replacement units.
Once you've got a good system running, except for not being a TiVo, you should find it enjoyable. :)

Required reading for you
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=69404

I was very very skeptical, but the HR20 is a darn good DVR, it even has some features that Tivo does not have. Caller ID, Playing all shows in a folder in order, surfing channels allowed while watching recorded stuff, the ability to output SD and HD at the same time (very nice if you have a VCR, Slingbox, DVD recorder etc).
I just ordered my 2nd from DTV and am actually ditching my old SD Tivo (this means I no longer have to pay $7.99 protection/mo, I'll drop down to $5.99/mo since these are leased, not owned).
I've got twins. At first it was rough [last fall], but they haven't missed a beat since Feb.
Do wring out the system to make sure everything works. Some of the biggest problems come down to a poor installation or defective hardware. You will be the end user and must make sure everything works within the first 90 days for the free service calls/replacement units.
Once you've got a good system running, except for not being a TiVo, you should find it enjoyable. Thanks guys! Just the kind of moral support I need! :cool:

Since the update that gave us the "new look", the guide makes me think I got cataracts. It's washed out and the print just does not look as well defined.
Am I alone? Is there a way to change the look? Is there a change on the way?

it doesn't bother me

The white GUI is the new DIRECTV standard.
Is there a way to change the look? No
Is there a change on the way?No

If i set my remote to RF, will it still use IR for the TV on/off/input?
Also, anyone know the code for an Apex tube tv, or how to run a code search like the Tivo 0999 up arrow function?

another ?
I want to use my HR20-100 to feed two SD sets in other parts of the house. I have not checked, but I don't think there is a coax RF out on this unit. If that is the case, I plan to use my trusty 2000 model Radio shack RF converter which will convert RCA video/audio to Coax RF. This converter has a 75/1k ohm selector for the video. Which one should I choose?

The IR to other components should remain if using RF for the HR20. What code... nope. The RS modulator -- odd. Must have both a video and coaxial input -- the 1k would be a video (RCA) input impedance while 75 is for coax matching. Personally I bought a frequency agile modulator that does Stereo audio and it works just fine for distributing throughout my home. That was one feature I didn't appreciate D* dropping from their box but I'm all working again and probably BETTER than before. The output from my old D* STB was boarderline weak and now it's rock-solid with my new ($55) modulator.

which modulator did you go with?

http://www.buy.com/prod/ce-labs-1001st-stereo-agile-modulator/q/loc/111/90136771.html

If i set my remote to RF, will it still use IR for the TV on/off/input?
Also, anyone know the code for an Apex tube tv, or how to run a code search like the Tivo 0999 up arrow function?
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You can try searching at this site: http://www.ezremote.com/setupcodehelp/DTV/ProductSelection.php

If i set my remote to RF, will it still use IR for the TV on/off/input?
Also, anyone know the code for an Apex tube tv, or how to run a code search like the Tivo 0999 up arrow function?

Yes the TV functions on the HR-20 remote will still be IR after setting the D* functions to RF, Mine controls my Panasonic plasma just fine, and you really would not want the remote to control the TV from anywhere but line of sight, and TV's don't speak RF anyway.

Does anyone out there use the HR20 to feed TWO HD sets in different rooms? I know I'll only be able to watch the same thing in each room.
Is there an easy way to run HD signal to 2nd room? I am guessing running an HDMI cable to room #2 would be easier, but it's kind of hard to drill an HDMI sized hole through the floor. Are there any cables that you can "Snap apart" so you could just fish the cable thru the floor/wall then snap the HDMI connecter back on? Or if not HDMI, could that same type thing be done with Component cable?
I'd like to run component to the tv next to the box, then HDMI to room #2. Any suggestions/links to such devices would be appreciated. Thanks!

Does anyone out there use the HR20 to feed TWO HD sets in different rooms? I know I'll only be able to watch the same thing in each room.
Is there an easy way to run HD signal to 2nd room? I am guessing running an HDMI cable to room #2 would be easier, but it's kind of hard to drill an HDMI sized hole through the floor. Are there any cables that you can "Snap apart" so you could just fish the cable thru the floor/wall then snap the HDMI connecter back on? Or if not HDMI, could that same type thing be done with Component cable?
I'd like to run component to the tv next to the box, then HDMI to room #2. Any suggestions/links to such devices would be appreciated. Thanks!

You can make your own component cables with coax and use wall plates in each room with coax outlets. Just make sure to keep track of which outlet is which. You can get "F" connector to "RCA" connector adapters so you can connect the tv and satellite box outlet to the coax jacks at the wall. Amongst other things this is how most installation companies set up sub woofers if they are not near the amplifier. It is also how I set up my sub woofer. If you are reasonablty skilled and careful and have access to the space between the walls, either through the basement or attic it will be very neat with no pesky holes in the floor. :)

I'm set up for install of the HR20 this Monday and had a few question (sorry if they were asked before). Will the box come with the BBC's or should I order them on the website? And will I get the hr20-700 or the 100?

I have an HR20 on the way to me. Does anyone know if HDMI also carries audio or will I have to hook up an optical cable to my AVR?

Thanks