Official SHARP 37D90U thread! [Text View]

rjcarr316

08-17-06, 10:52 AM

Okay, I'm going to give you all the gory details. Again, this is a D40U attached to an intel mac mini via DVI.

When set to 1920 x 1080 (interlace mode, the TV doesn't accept progressive), and overscan set to on, and in "dot by dot", the display is perfectly centered. With overscan off on and "dot by dot" the display is centered in the middle with a fairly substantial black border, I'd say 2-3 inches.

Now onto your question. When set to 1280 x 720 there is no "dot by dot" option, only "stretch" (I remember reading this in the manual now ... the view mode options change depending on the source). And again, overscan off has a border, but this time with overscan on it truly overscans ... about 2-3 inches of the display is cut off.

When set to 720 x 480 I now get four "view mode" options, which are: side bar, s. stretch, zoom, and stretch. And whether overscan is on or off, the display doesn't fit the screen perfectly in any view mode.

I'm getting a D90U sometime next week so I can test on that then, but I'd assume it to be similar. Also note, I think the source makes a big difference too, as when I was driving this thing with my powerbook (12" G4) I was getting different results.

For example, with the mac mini, when I first turn on the computer and the display in 1080i dot by dot, the display is shifted down a bit and cut off, by maybe 20 pixels or so. To fix this, I have to go into the display options, turn overscan off (which puts that large border around it) and then turn overscan back on, and then the display is perfectly centered (and looks great).

I don't remember having to do this in my (admittedly brief) powerbook tests. So your mileage may very depending on what is driving the signal.

Anyone else seen anything similar to what I see?

vikajakub

08-17-06, 12:37 PM

SnellKrell

08-17-06, 12:43 PM

Hey guys, since I will watch 90% Comcast cable ( Florida, 33442 zip) in SD- how does that set work on SD cable signal. Any other LCD tv I have seen so far was snowy and/or grainy on SD. I am sitting here with my credit card ready to buy, but that issue scares me a bit:-) One more, why would Sharp quit installing Cable Cards in new sets (37D7U had it). I thought all TVs had to be equiped in it by US standards this year. Thanks for your thougths.

Because many cable companies in the U.S, halfheartedly supported it; there have been many technical glitches, and at this time it's a one-way technology - no ability to order and control Pay Per View, VOD, etc.

And it's an additional expense!

Most are waiting for a two-system to be implemented.

Hope this helps.

Gary

kohi

08-17-06, 02:20 PM

alexb76

08-17-06, 02:32 PM

rjcarr316

08-17-06, 02:38 PM

Now, after all those tests, which was the best for internet, text mode? I believe any kind of stretch will diminish text clarity.

Yeah ... quality isn't so great when smaller than native, and I can't get it to fit the screen anyway. I would recommend running the display at native resolution and just bumping up the font size in your browser, although 45" is pretty readable (mounted on my wall at work, probably 8 feet away), 37" probably wouldn't be.

And a quick update ... after writing the previous post I did a system update on my mac mini and now it perfectly centers the display the first time. Gotta love software updates.

maveric23

08-20-06, 12:41 PM

OP, can you please amend the title of this thread to include "Sharp LC-37D90U"?

It would make it much easier for people doing searches to find. Thanks.

bile

08-23-06, 07:56 PM

I did some extensive testing of videogame consoles on my LC37D90U tonight.

Definitions:
Jumps: The whole image jumps up and down, including any overlays (menu, etc) by several pixels. It's worse with Quick Shot on. Causes the image to be blurry and just simply annoying.
Good: Things work fine

NES: Composite : Looks bad, better with QS on, otherwise fine
SNES: S-Video & Composite : Good, very faint ghosting which seem to go away with QS on
N64 : S-Video & Composite : Jumps, would look very good otherwise
Gamecube: Component : looks great, depends on game, 480P obviously nicer looking
Xbox : Component : Looks good... especially 720P and 1080P
Saturn : S-Video & Composite : jumps, would look good otherwise
Dreamcast : S-Video : all Good
3DO : S-Video : all good
NeoGeo CD : S-Video : jumps, would look very clean otherwise
Turbo Duo : Composite : jumps, probably look good otherwise
PSone : Composite : jumps, very blurry
PS2 : Component : very clear, PS1 games almost too clear
Phillips CD-I 220 : S-Video : good, very clear

Couldn't test Sega Master System, Sega Genesis, Atari Jaguar. Don't have composite or s-video cables for them ATM. Didn't bother testing anything which didn't have at least composite.

Main Version: 1.09 (U 2006/04/28 1)
BOOT Version: OLYMB1.00

I'm getting this TV replaced Friday so if the version is different I'll try things again and post if different.

jvargasg

08-25-06, 09:06 AM

maveric23

08-25-06, 02:08 PM

does anybody know where to get this set at a good price and with good warranty?...You might try 6ave.

kevink109

08-26-06, 12:47 PM

I just wanted to post an update on my 90u experience. My original panel had a whole horizontal row of bad pixels, not to mention some backlight bleed, and a reduced viewing angle compared to my 26ga4u. I picked up my second or replacement panel yesterday- here are my first impressions.

I returned my unit to my retailer (Magnolia- it is nice to have a B&M that offers a 30 day satisfaction guarantee) My first unit was from the original shipment, which for NorCal consisted of 10 units. My replacement unit ( which was about 12 days out when I asked for a new panel) was part of the larger second run - 40 units for NorCal.

The new panel is much better. For those looking at these units in store a couple of points to consider-
1. many of the display units are from initial shipment
2. On my two units the default setting for backlight was +16 (out of 16 ) and brightness was +15

With these settings my second panel did show some backlight bleeding, but after some quick adjustments I came up with -13 for backlight, and - 14 on brightness- no backlight issues at these settings and the picture and black levels were very good.

On the viewing angle issue my second panel is much better than my first unit and I would rate it at equal to or slightly better than my 26ga4u. Although the picture may not as good as straight on viewing, I find 45 degrees off center to be perfectly acceptable and still watchable approaching 75+ degrees off center.

I will try and take some pictures tonight and post them for illustration.

I stayed up last night and did some movie watching comparing my 2 sharp units and a 5060 pioneer PDP that my I borrowed from a friend. I didn't have a lot of time but I used the movies Heat and Spiderman2 last night. I'm using the oppo 971hd player upconverting to 1080i for the 90u, and upconverted 720p for the 26ga4u and Pioneer 5060- all running off of HDMI for easy connections.

Based on my impressions as well as the owner of the Pioneer- the 90u provided the best picture with Spiderman2- based on sharpness, image detail,and overall "looking out a window experience". I have not calibrated my set but I would give the nod to the Pioneer for color- I sometimes think that Pioneers colors are too artificial but with this material the reds and blues of the web crawlers suit did look slightly better. When using the movie"Heat" picture quality was very comparable between the 5060 and 90u- no noticable advantage to the 90u on picture clarity and due to the Mann's blue/grey color tone there was no color advantage to the Pioneer. Also if it was not obvious- the 264u brought up the rear in this comparison- not surprising perhaps, but it did provide a quality picture in all respects- and since I have had this set for so long and have cal'd it a couple of times the colors are really dialed in, but overall "crispness" is not as good as the other two sets.

Now the one surprise, to me at least, was the black lever performance of the 90u. As I mentioned we did this at night ( after the kids were asleep) and had adjusted the sets for basically a black room- no ambient light during viewing. When comparing some of the dark scenes- like chapter 24 ( Spidey crash lands in the alley) Spidey is seen swinging silhouetted against the night sky- in this scene the 90u does a very good job of rendering black level detail. Is the pioneer better??- maybe slightly better, but it was surprisingly close. I noticed just the slimmest touch of what I call the grey wash ( where the display simply offers a pool of dark grey/black color instead of rendering contrasting dark color detail). Compared with the 264u it was a dramatic improvement- based on viewing at night in a dark room I don't think you are going to find better black level performance in a LCD- I was very impressed to say the least- you really have to search for any flaws at this level-

Also I guess I should mention my reason for purchasing the 90u- I returned a wonderful Fujitsu 50 because in order to fit that wonderful unit into my family room would have required demo/reconstruction of my fireplace wall and it was not worth the effort given my limited time to actually use the set. (not to mention the wife factor) So the 90u fits into my existing media nook w/ 3/8" of room to spare ..... and we basically use the set for football/baseball, movies, and some minor childrens viewing. Most of the sports I watch are weekend day product. I was trying to find the best set I could and given the ability to display 1080p, I figured I was going to get some longterm use out of the 90u. The only other display I looked at was the 37" panny- but for me the day viewing and 1080p were the selling features. The panny has a great picture and if they do that unit in 1080p in a year or two I would consider it.

Overall I think there is a production variance w/ this new Sharp model- given that this is their first 1080p display I bet next years version will be even better- is it the LC-37GX1W?? My second set looks to be a keeper- great picture, very good black levels, 1080 capability, and decent viewing angles- as I'm writing this I'm watching my local PBS HD broadcast and the picture is just awesome with this set-for daylight viewing this is definatley the best you are going to get. I hope this helps-
Kevin

aamilo

08-28-06, 12:44 PM

does anybody know where to get this set at a good price and with good warranty?

I've fouond several stores got it for under 2k but don't know their reputation. I personally rather buy at costco but they don't carry it.

since this set been out there for quite a while, is there any new models coming out, on this size and 1080P? I like Sharp personally one of the best brands for LCD

I read several on-line transaction threads regarding various dealers. I finally settled on "one call dot com" because of the reputation they had online and with the better business bureau. They finally got the 37d90u in stock again, at a very nice price, and I am currently waiting for the truck as I type. The warrenty they have is really well priced too. I got five years for $299.99.
The set is actually getting delivered a day early so I'm excited. I will let you know how it goes. By the way "high def forum dot com" had a great review of online dealers and many people there liked one call.

Hope this helps,

Milo

jus7o

08-31-06, 07:28 AM

aamilo

08-31-06, 11:24 AM

im considering buying this tv the size if perfect for my room and my uses like hooking up my laptop and video game consoles. but im kinda new to LCD's i want to know if this TV needs a break in like a plasma does and if i should take the ALL the same precautions as a plasma. whats the life of on this TV if treated right. any hidden faults/features/tricks ANYTHING i should also know about this TV? im still searching through the other huge thread looking for answers.

thanks

If you are hooking up a laptop, you won't get the full resolution unless your laptop has a DVI output. Last night I tried my laptop using a VGA to DVI converter cable and was only able to get a 1024x768 box in the middle of the screen. Your supposed to be able to get 1280x1024 or a few others but that wasn't working for me. I KNOW the TV can do the other resolutions, up to 1280x1024, via VGA but I must have just not had some setting correct. I had it set-up with my desktop and was able to get the full 1920x1080 resolution using the DVI output of the video card.

This is one item you might want to think about if your laptop doesn't have a DVI output. Other than that, the TV is GREAT!!! I don't know of any "break-in" or anything like that on the LCD but maybe I just don't know. :o The only three things I miss on this TV from my old Sony 27" CRT is that there doesn't seem to be an automatic volume control, there is no PIP, and the channels seem to change rather slowly. One other bummer is that there is only one component input but that's only a bummer for now, until I upgrade my DVD player to one with HDMI outputs. ;)

Hope this helps,

Milo

jus7o

08-31-06, 11:33 AM

what about s-video? if i cant use the VGA to get full screen. will it display at full screen? or even a vga to composite? could one of these be an alternative?

thanks

aamilo

08-31-06, 12:36 PM

Hi All,

Well I have now had my 37d90 for a few days and I love it! I do still have a few things to figure out but I wanted to post my experience with my order. I got my (second) set from "one call dot com". They were really great on the phone and I heard a LOT of good things about them. Also their prices were VERY hard to beat from a vendor with their type of reputation and Better Business Bureau rating.

From previous posts I thought I'd be getting my set ship strapped on a pallet, with shockwatch indicator and fragile warning labels. Unfortunately this was not the case. The Sharp box was simply shipped inside another box with minimal padding. I have to say that I was bummed to see this. On the flip side, my set came one day early (2 days) instead of 3-day FedEx. All in all, there was only a small dent in the bottom corner of the main box and a smaller dent on the bottom corner of the Sharp box. Otherwise things looked good.

The TV is now set-up in my Entertainment Center and just fits as I had planned. The colors and backlighting of this set are noticably better than that of my first unit so I'm a happy camper. See the pics below.

Milo

Outer-box (Shipping Box)
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/119_1922.jpg

Inside Outer box
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/119_1923.JPG

Inter-box (TV Box)
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/119_1928.jpg

Inside TV Box
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/506/119_1930.JPG

TV installed
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/119_1938.jpg

aamilo

08-31-06, 12:44 PM

what about s-video? if i cant use the VGA to get full screen. will it display at full screen? or even a vga to composite? could one of these be an alternative?

thanks

I haven't tried the S-Video or Composite from a computer, although I assume you would have the same issue since it's an analog signal. BUT I could very well be wrong. I'll see if I can try that tonight.

jus7o

08-31-06, 01:00 PM

Thanks Milo, i assumed that the vga output on my laptop was a DVI. i was all hyped up for it but i guess i got to find an alternative or just settle with a small viewing area. but im pretty sure ill be purchasing this TV.

maveric23

08-31-06, 02:13 PM

..The Sharp box was simply shipped inside another box with minimal padding. I have to say that I was bummed to see this..I think that you should be ecstatic about your packaging. Mine didn't even have an outside box! It was simply shipped in the original box! :(

But everything seemed OK.

Quick question: Did your TV come with the cardboard handles that are mentioned in the instruction manual? Mine didn't and I was concerned that it was an open-box.

Thanks.

jus7o

08-31-06, 02:17 PM

who did you order with? maveric. let me know sos i can stay away from them.

maveric23

08-31-06, 02:52 PM

who did you order with? maveric. let me know sos i can stay away from them.ABT

jus7o

08-31-06, 05:18 PM

a b t electronics .com? damn i just saw the TV going for 2328 on there.

jus7o

08-31-06, 05:28 PM

hows 6ave by the way? im thinking about buying it from them. anyone have any comments on them? good? bad?

thanks

aamilo

08-31-06, 05:30 PM

Quick question: Did your TV come with the cardboard handles that are mentioned in the instruction manual? Mine didn't and I was concerned that it was an open-box.

Thanks.

I didn't see or notice any cardboard handles on either of the two I purchased. I am more than fairly sure that first one was factory sealed because I bought it locally from a friend working at Magnolia. I know he wouldn't have sold me an open box.

So I don't think there are any cardboard handles on these. Now I need to reread my manual to see where these are talked about. ;)

If you look at the taping of the box carefully you should be able to see if it was opened but it doesn't seem that it was. Hope this helps.

kevink109

08-31-06, 05:40 PM

Mine was a sealed box from magnolia and no card board handles.

BTW I got that same pricing from ABT at my local Magnolia- another local store had the sharp on sale and they price matched w/o a question.....

I'm loving my second unit- I am staying up way too late watching my favorite DVDs..... :)

aamilo

08-31-06, 05:45 PM

BTW I got that same pricing from ABT at my local Magnolia- another local store had the sharp on sale and they price matched w/o a question.....

I'm loving my second unit- I am staying up way too late watching my favorite DVDs..... :)

That's a bummer, I tried to get a low price at Magnolia but my friend just couldn't do it. :( Therefore I had to get it elsewhere.

I know what you mean about the late nights. Discovery HD and PBS HD have some shows that just suck you in.

ZZen

08-31-06, 05:47 PM

aamilo - can you elaberate on the difference in colors and backlighting between your first and second unit? Thx.

ZZen

08-31-06, 08:23 PM

Do any of you d90u owners hear any buzz/humm from the TV when adjusting the backlight to various levels. How about noise from the two fans? Assuming a quiet room at 8 ft or less distance. Thanks.

kohi

09-01-06, 11:24 AM

Do any of you d90u owners hear any buzz/humm from the TV when adjusting the backlight to various levels. How about noise from the two fans? Assuming a quiet room at 8 ft or less distance. Thanks.

sitting about the same distance and do not hear the fans...

hope that helps...

aamilo

09-01-06, 01:01 PM

aamilo - can you elaberate on the difference in colors and backlighting between your first and second unit? Thx.

Well the colors are a little harder to describe than the backlighting is. On the backlighting, the first TV seems to have a little bit of bleed on it. I wouldn't really call it bleed because it didn't seem that bad but you could tell differences in the uniformity of the backlight. The second (current) TV I have seems to have much better uniformity in the backlighting and the blacks really get black.

On the colors, they both had good color but on the first unit it seemed that I needed to adjust the set to really be happy with the colors. On the current set, I have to colors at the factory defaults and haven't touch them. I've only needed to play with the backlighting and brightness to get the blacks & brightness of the TV were I like it. I guess the colors get affected by this also but I remember adjusting everything before.

For the fans, the only time I have really ever noticed them is when I walk up to the TV and close the doors to the entertainment center. Last night was the first time I notice them other than that. I was watching a show, sitting about 7'-8' away and there was a very silent part in the show. I barely heard a noise so I muted the TV. It took me quite a while, including getting up and out of my chair to realize I could just barely hear the fan running. I sat back down, un-muted the TV and never notice it again. I don't think the fans would be a problem.

helvetica bold

09-01-06, 01:38 PM

ZZen

09-01-06, 01:45 PM

sitting about the same distance and do not hear the fans...

hope that helps...

What about any humming from putting the backlight at various levels. I've read about numerous LCD TV's that produce some humming with the backlight set at certain levels other than 100%

aamilo

09-01-06, 01:50 PM

aamilo
I bought one of the first units, in fact the white sticker you see on the side of your box–
mine says DEMO! So the problem is that I do have backlight bleed but I have it turned down to -14 and it looks perfect. I wonder if I should try to exchange my unit for a new one (it could be too late)?

I'd say that's up to you. I didn't really think my first one was bad, I just noticed that my second one seems better. It might be because it's newer or it might be just due to production variations. I would have been happy with the old one if it didn't break and I'm happy with the new one because it hasn't broke (fingers are crossed). ;)

aamilo

09-01-06, 01:53 PM

What about any humming from putting the backlight at various levels. I've read about numerous LCD TV's that produce some humming with the backlight set at certain levels other than 100%

I haven't noticed any humming from the blacklighting at all. Originally I think the default was +14 or +16. I had it there for a little but thought it was too bright. I had it at +4 for a day or so and now have it at -10 because I have been viewing it a lot in a dark room. +4 works good in the day & -10 is nice if all the lights are off. Eitherway, I hear no humming or buzzing at all.

maveric23

09-02-06, 02:10 AM

...On the current set, I have to colors at the factory defaults and haven't touch them. I've only needed to play with the backlighting and brightness to get the blacks & brightness of the TV were I like it...FYI, I calibrated my 37D90U with DVE and my settings are much different than the factory defaults.

ZZen

09-02-06, 12:50 PM

CaseCom

09-02-06, 01:24 PM

I stayed up last night and did some movie watching comparing my 2 sharp units and a 5060 pioneer PDP that my I borrowed from a friend. I didn't have a lot of time but I used the movies Heat and Spiderman2 last night. I'm using the oppo 971hd player upconverting to 1080i for the 90u, and upconverted 720p for the 26ga4u and Pioneer 5060- all running off of HDMI for easy connections.

Kevin if you're still around: Did you notice any evidence of the Faroudja macroblocking bug when using the Oppo 971 with the 37D90U? (It's a problem with the Faroudja processor in the DVD player but it appears only on certain displays.)

Solfan

09-02-06, 06:26 PM

hows 6ave by the way? im thinking about buying it from them. anyone have any comments on them? good? bad?

thanks

They're pretty good, I've been buying from them for years.

aamilo

09-04-06, 02:27 PM

FYI, I calibrated my 37D90U with DVE and my settings are much different than the factory defaults.

Well I just completed the calibration of my set last night using Avia. These setting were based on the Dynamic setting to start and done in a very dark room. I came up with the following settings:

Backlighting: -10 (Personal preference, other setting based on this.)
Contrast: +34
Brightness: +4
Color: +2
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +1
Color-Temp: Medium
Black Level Expansion: On

My defaults Dynamic were:

Backlighting: +16
Contrast: +32
Brightness: +0
Color: +4
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +4
Color-Temp: High
Black Level Expansion: On

I didn't have the calibration DVD with my first set and didn't use it right away with this set so I can't really tell how different the sets were. I remember doing a lot more adjustment on my first set but that could be my imagination too, since I did a LOT of playing with it & my DVD player in a short amount of time, ~23 hours.

aamilo

09-04-06, 02:29 PM

Kevin if you're still around: Did you notice any evidence of the Faroudja macroblocking bug when using the Oppo 971 with the 37D90U? (It's a problem with the Faroudja processor in the DVD player but it appears only on certain displays.)

I'd be interested in knowing this as well. I have been thinking about the Oppo 971 but wasn't sure how much better it would be compared to my Panasonic DVD-F85 progressive scan.

aamilo

09-04-06, 02:44 PM

what about s-video? if i cant use the VGA to get full screen. will it display at full screen? or even a vga to composite? could one of these be an alternative?

thanks

Well I couldn't check vga to composite but I did check S-Video. S-Video would only give me a 1024x768 resolution and it didn't look good. I tried VGA to DVI again and still olny able to get 1024x768. The computer had more options but the TV would only give me a 1024x768 window in the middle of the screen that I could "scroll" around in to see the larger desktops.

Haven't had a chance to pull out the desktop with DVI (again) yet.

kevink109

09-04-06, 11:39 PM

Sorry I need to edit my first post, but I'm actually using the Oppo 970 DVD player- and the answer is no macroblocking that I have detected. I know the 970 does not have the Faroudja processing- sorry for the typo-

I know this question should go somewhere else but.... I grab my HDTV OTA, however I'm now looking to either upgrade my direct tv or go another route for additional HD programing- I have Comcast as my local cable- is there a general consensus on which provider has the best picture quality and programing choices?

ZZen

09-05-06, 12:14 AM

Brand

09-05-06, 01:46 AM

kevink109

09-05-06, 01:53 AM

Thanks guys for answering my questions! Care to help with a couple more? :)

1. Does this tv do 1:1/dot-dot pixel mapping on the HDMI ports for 1080 signals? Ie: using an HD-DVD player then doing 1:1 for no overscan. Or does it only do 1:1/dot-dot for PC signals?

2. Are they any aspect mode choices when viewing 780/1080 HD channels?

3. If you have a cable box set to show SD/4:3 channels at 480i and HD channels at 1080i will the TV automatically go to proper aspect mode for HD (16:9) then back to 4:3 sidebar (or smart stretch - whichever you left it on) when you change back to an SD channel? Remeber the cable box is NOT upconverting SD channels in this scenario but set to pass through 480. This scenario is using HDMI input.

4. How do you like the smart stretch (non-linear) mode for SD 4:3 material?

5. Does it have a zoom mode for older non-anamorphic letterbox dvd's tp make them fill the screen without skewing things?

6. When the backlight it set low for night viewing do details/blacks get crushed?

I'll stop there for now. I'm on the verge of getting this to replace my Dell. If I get it I will also try to contribute. Thx!

OK I will try a few where I can..

1.) I don't have a HD-DVD player but you can do dot -dot on 1080i signals- and the manual says dot-dot for 1080i/p

2.) yes- 1.78:1, dot by dot, and 2.35:1

3.) don't know about cable-but on OTA the display will set to the correct aspect ratio- 4:3 or 16:9- depending on content

4.) I like the smart stretch- my other TV is a sharp LCD and I almost always use this function- actually hard to notice on most SD content

5.) not sure- I wil try this out latter this week - but based on my other sharp I say yes- there might be some slight banding

6.) Not to my eyes, I have the backlight set at -12 for daytime, and -14 during night viewing...

Hope this helps

jus7o

09-05-06, 07:32 AM

thanks milo and everyone else who helped answer my questions but ive decided on the westinghouse lvm-42w2 42inch lcd 1080p monitor

i found it cheap at crutchfield.com over the weekend with free shipping but its out of stock so hopefully ill be getting it. but from what ive read it should show my pc through vga connection at full 1080p aswell as every other input. so ill see how that goes but heres the specs on it >>> http://www.crutchfield.com/S-o1qoTKSyJPc/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=146350&tab=detailed_info&i=647LVM42W2#Tab if interested.

thanks again to everyone.

maveric23

09-05-06, 10:44 AM

thanks milo and everyone else who helped answer my questions but ive decided on the westinghouse lvm-42w2 42inch lcd 1080p monitor...That's funny, I was going to buy the Westy, but I bought the 37D90U instead.

Ryan7971

09-05-06, 03:55 PM

I actually did buy that Westinghouse 42" but had banding issues and a slight lockup problem. I returned it for the LC37D90U and will never turn away from this TV. It's awesome.

kohi

09-05-06, 10:04 PM

I actually did buy that Westinghouse 42" but had banding issues and a slight lockup problem. I returned it for the LC37D90U and will never turn away from this TV. It's awesome.

It sure is...

:)

rjcarr316

09-06-06, 02:38 PM

I finally got my 37D90U after many problems and I open it up and it is damaged. The right bezel is cracked, looks like a hard blow to the side somehow, but the glass looks fine and I've turned it on and everything looks great. It was a private sale and looks to be a shipping issue ... UPS is sorting it out.

My early impressions are this set is great, feels better than the 45GD7U I have at work. If any potential buyers have any questions I'm happy to do my best to answer them. So far I only have three complaints:

o There aren't enough inputs, 2 HDMI is nice, but I'd like to see at least another component and another s-vid/composite.

o It seems the left side of the display is a bit brighter than the rest, a little bit of uneven backlighting. Only noticible (for me) when viewing super aspect ratio DVDs (i.e. substatial letter boxing).

o I've typically always purchased sony hardware and always liked their remotes ... this remote just doesn't feel the same, although the OSD looks nicely done.

So now a question for you all. Looking at the bezel, it appears the inner black and outer "titanium" parts are one piece. It looks easy enough to unscrew and remove from the back (haven't tried), does anyone know some place that could order this part for me? Maybe directly from Sharp? Anyone know if it is really this easy to replace this part? See the image below for the damage:

http://www.mediamax.com/rjcarr/Hosted/crack.jpg

EDIT: A quick question. I haven't looked in the instructions so sorry if this is obvious, but it looks like only the "dynamic" video settings are configurable? If you open the remote and hit the "av mode" button it cycles through different video modes, but the only one we can change is "dynamic", right?

SnellKrell

09-06-06, 02:53 PM

"User" is the one to use!

Yoda1

09-06-06, 02:56 PM

Anyone with this set playing PS2/Xbox 360 on it? How do things look? How does the set scale non-native sources (480i/p, 720p, etc.). Impressions/pics would be awesome. Thanks a lot for your help!

rjcarr316

09-06-06, 02:57 PM

"User" is the one to use!

Ah, yes ... makes sense now. Along with modifiable preset defaults, the "user" mode allows you to set custom calibrations on each input. This is brilliant! Thanks for the info, a huge help.

rjcarr316

09-06-06, 03:01 PM

Anyone with this set playing PS2/Xbox 360 on it? How do things look? How does the set scale non-native sources (480i/p, 720p, etc.). Impressions/pics would be awesome. Thanks a lot for your help!

No PS2 or 360 here, but I do have an original (modded) XBOX connected via component and it looks fantastic with every res I've tried (720P and 1080i). I can't imagine anyone being dissappointed with the HD picture.

DrizztD0Urden

09-06-06, 04:14 PM

Anyone with this set playing PS2/Xbox 360 on it? How do things look? How does the set scale non-native sources (480i/p, 720p, etc.). Impressions/pics would be awesome. Thanks a lot for your help!

I put a number of them on the forum somewhere, but instead of searching, it's quicker to just link them.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/DrizztD0Urden/PGR32.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/DrizztD0Urden/PGR31.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/DrizztD0Urden/Oblivion2.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/DrizztD0Urden/Oblivion2close.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/DrizztD0Urden/Oblivion1.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/DrizztD0Urden/Oblivion1close.jpg

crpep

09-06-06, 05:43 PM

Just got my Sharp 90u....love it!

I believe it was alluded to earlier in this forum, but can someone explain why every HD channel I view is displayed in 1080i? I understand that some of the networks broadcast in 720p (which I would think would be better for sports)...is the Sharp upconverting to 1080i because of the higher resolution of the TV?

rjcarr316

09-06-06, 05:53 PM

but can someone explain why every HD channel I view is displayed in 1080i?

I can't say I see the same observations. In digital I have seen 480i, 720p, and 1080i. I can't remember which channel gave me 720p, but if I see it tonight I'll repost.

I have also connected my xbox via component at both 1080i and 720p, both reported correctly by the 90U. When hooking up my powerbook via DVI I was able to get 1080p.

The only problem so far was when hooking up my upconverting DVD player, I have a HDMI-DVI adapter (no HDMI cable yet), and it wouldn't accept 480P via DVI, only 720P and 1080i. Not sure what that is about, but I'm not really worried about it.

EDIT: I can confirm that ABC-DT from Seattle sends out 720P, at least for the local news broadcast I just watched.

Yoda1

09-06-06, 07:18 PM

I put a number of them on the forum somewhere, but instead of searching, it's quicker to just link them.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/DrizztD0Urden/PGR31.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d150/DrizztD0Urden/Oblivion2.jpg

Looks great. Are these pics through component or VGA?

RaBoot

09-06-06, 09:15 PM

Hello... I am thinking of purchasing this set (LC37D90U), and am wondering how it will look with the speaker detached? I have a 2.1 Logitech speaker setup w/ my PC and current HDTV (Sceptre 37) that I will be using. Will the Sharp look strange with a long pole for the stand? Is there any way to lower the set so it sits lower on the stand? Any pics floating around with the speaker removed?

Thank you in advance.
...Bobby R.

rjcarr316

09-06-06, 09:24 PM

Hello... I am thinking of purchasing this set (LC37D90U), and am wondering how it will look with the speaker detached?
Sorry, haven't seen any pics, but I can tell you there'd be a pretty big gap if you planned on using the stand.
Is there any way to lower the set so it sits lower on the stand?
No.

Do you have a problem with the speaker being there? If not, you can leave it there and simply detach the speaker wires. Or you can just leave it connected and use the set's audio outs. Unless you were constrained for mounting space, I don't really see the use in removing the speaker.

kohi

09-06-06, 09:44 PM

RaBoot

09-07-06, 08:50 AM

Do you have a problem with the speaker being there?

Yes I do, It is not what I want. Why make a removable speaker, only to remove it and have a huge gap between the stand and display. Makes no sense to me.

Have to buy a wall mount.

RaBoot

09-07-06, 02:55 PM

check here ---> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7898656&&#post7898656 <--- for pics of the TV without the speaker.

hope that helps...

Yes, thank you for the link. It does help a lot. The set does not look all that bad w/ speaker removed. I may be able to live with it.

Now I just hope the price comes down a little more....

helvetica bold

09-07-06, 03:20 PM

Glad to see this thread is still going!
Any one care to post their 360 display settings?

I'm interested in VGA output settings since Xbox
is a bit washed out via VGA.

maveric23

09-07-06, 03:50 PM

Glad to see this thread is still going!...I think it'd be much easier for people to find if you wrote "Sharp" in the title.

sgriffin

09-07-06, 06:34 PM

As long as you're editing the title, maybe change "Offical" to Official.

helvetica bold

09-08-06, 11:05 AM

YES, I rushed creating the title – I think it's too late to change.

:(

butters2006

09-08-06, 11:08 AM

YES, I rushed creating the title – I think it's too late to change.

Should petition it. :)

Nice pictures above. It has been hard to find TVs with suitable HD material being broadcasted on them. It's between this TV and the upcoming Sony v2500.

maveric23

09-08-06, 12:11 PM

YES, I rushed creating the title – I think it's too late to change.

:(You can still change it. Simply edit your first post and you can change the title (the 2nd field).

I recommend that you title it, "Sharp LC-37D90U Owner's Thread: NO PRICE TALK!"

When I originally searched for a 37D90U owner's thread none appeared in the search results so I started this one:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=707354

Maybe the moderator can combine these threads into one.

Radical Raccoon

09-08-06, 01:29 PM

So now I'm torn between this and the Westinghouse LVM 37w3. As I understand it, the 37w3 isn't too hot with SD (standard definition?) material, which is what I've got coming through cable (too cheap for HIDEF) and presumably all my DVDs. There seems to be issues with blurring (ghosting) especially during action sequences (and I do loves me my action sequences!)

So how does this TV handle SD material? What are its black levels like? Looking at the pictures posted by DrizztD0Urden, they don't seem too hot.

Of course, you're probably wondering why I'd bother with a HDTV if I'm only watching SD material--the reason is I'd also like a nice big PC monitor. Hey, would putting the cable through my PC, and watching DVDs on my PC, get around the "bad SD handling" of the 37w3?

My00t8

09-08-06, 02:57 PM

It seems the left side of the display is a bit brighter than the rest, a little bit of uneven backlighting. Only noticible (for me) when viewing super aspect ratio DVDs (i.e. substatial letter boxing).

Wouldn't have anything to do with this...

http://www.mediamax.com/rjcarr/Hosted/crack.jpg

...would it?

helvetica bold

09-08-06, 03:22 PM

Sweet, The Thread Name Has Changed!!!!

rjcarr316

09-08-06, 04:30 PM

Wouldn't have anything to do with this... ...would it?

Sure, it could be because of the damage, but they are on different sides. Strange things happen with damage though ... good point.

My00t8

09-09-06, 02:58 PM

Sure, it could be because of the damage, but they are on different sides. Strange things happen with damage though ... good point.

I'm thinking the damage is to the right side of the BLU, as the damage is to the right side of the housing. Thus the right side appears dimmer, or, as you say, the left side appears brighter. Half-empty v half-full.

My wife and I are very interested in this set, and we were eagerly awaiting your review. Even her first remark was, "I bet it's because of the shipping damage." We were excited to see your only other complaints were the remote (we use multi-function anyway so as long as we can get the codes...) and the lack of analog inputs (I for one am sick of all these "next generation" sets having 1xHDMI and 100xComposite).

Our plan is to get this now, get a larger one next year when the 46-47" sets are more widely available and move the 37" into the bedroom at that time. I was going to wait until HDMI 1.3, but it seems this little guy does everything I want (at a good price and from a reputable mfg). Maybe the 46-47" set we get later on down the road will have HDMI 1.3.

Aquos32

09-09-06, 07:10 PM

What about any humming from putting the backlight at various levels. I've read about numerous LCD TV's that produce some humming with the backlight set at certain levels other than 100%

I've had my Sharp Aquos 32D40U for a few weeks now and have just discovered that it produces a noticeable and annoying humming or buzzing sound when the backlight level is set to 10 or lower. There is no sound at 11 or above, and the sound becomes slightly louder as the settings are lowered further, especially at 4 and below.

Has anyone else experienced or heard of this problem? Any known causes or fixes? Thanks.

jdryyz

09-10-06, 11:00 AM

I have the 37D90U (received earlier this week) and have not experienced any buzzing noise related to the Backlight level. I also do not even notice when the fans are on (I was a little worried about that at first).

I've had my Sharp Aquos 32D40U for a few weeks now and have just discovered that it produces a noticeable and annoying humming or buzzing sound when the backlight level is set to 10 or lower. There is no sound at 11 or above, and the sound becomes slightly louder as the settings are lowered further, especially at 4 and below.

Has anyone else experienced or heard of this problem? Any known causes or fixes? Thanks.

rjcarr316

09-10-06, 11:25 AM

My00t8: Yeah, what you say makes sense, but I'm actually not seeing it anymore. Like I said, it was very faint, but it seems to have even itself out? Not sure what that is all about ... I read that LCDs generally suffer from uneven backlighting, but I assure you even when it wasn't perfect, it was pretty close. I wouldn't let that keep you from a purchase.

I have noticed something else though ... it doesn't want to sync on the DVI input when I connect my upconverting DVD player. I have a Sony unit, and since my old TV only had DVI, I purchased a HDMI-DVI adapter instead of an HDMI cable. When I switch to the DVI input on the set, the HDMI light on the sony will blink (it should be solid), but it is giving some signal, because it is really bright ... almost as if the backlight was adjusted. I have to switch to an different input and back again (usually several times) before it will sync.

But even when it does it is really bright, even when I put my backlight all the way down (-16 I think). I'm hoping it has something to do with the HDMI-DVI conversion ... I should be receiving my HDMI cable sometime early next week.

ZZen

09-10-06, 02:03 PM

Anyone else connecting an HDMI device to the d90u's DVI input? I wonder if rjcarr's situation is isolated or an issue with the tv in general.

rjcarr316

09-11-06, 05:13 PM

I have hooked up my powerbook via DVI and it connected fine and seems to look okay, but it was only brief, I should test it again. That's why I'm assuming there is a problem with the DVD player.

And since we're discussing it ... the (analog) audio HDMI in is a stereo mini-plug, so I converted the RCA audio out of the DVD to the mini-plug and works okay when the DVD is playing but hisses (loudly) when the DVD is stopped. Again, this is why I'm pretty sure it is the DVD player.

I should have my HDMI cable today or tomorrow to confirm that it makes a different. If it doesn't I'll be back on here with some more questions. :)

jdryyz

09-12-06, 05:41 PM

aamilo

09-12-06, 06:03 PM

Is there any benefit to using an upscaling DVD player with any of Sharp's 1080p displays? Specifically, if using 720p or 1080i output? I'm thinking there are a few conversion steps with 1080i but 720p may not be too bad.

I managed to get through the Oppo 970HD thread and was disappointed to learn that there is an outstanding issue with cropping of 720p/1080i output, but I'm wondering if it is even worth trying on a 1080p panel. I'm happy with my el-cheapo Pioneer's component out but I'm willing to plunk down on something like the Oppo's price tag if there is a noticable difference in quality.

Better perhaps to wait for a *good* 1080p upconverting player. I've read that Yamaha is coming out with one soon. The NeuNeo/Helios is available now but it has some quality issues I understand.

I have the same question. I have been looking at the OPPO OPDV971H (not the 970HD) due to the price and picture quality I have been hearing about. Right now I have a Panasonic DVD-F85 and it's 480p output looks really nice. I too would pay for a Oppo "IF" it would make a difference but I'm not sure it would be that noticable. Can anyone that has one comment on the differences between 480p up converted and an oppo up converted?

Jdryyz - I'm just confused by one thing you said:
I'm thinking there are a few conversion steps with 1080i but 720p may not be too bad.

I figure 1080i would have fewer steps and look better than 720p. Is that what you meant to say?

Milo

P.S. So how is the set working out for you?

rjcarr316

09-12-06, 06:15 PM

Is there any benefit to using an upscaling DVD player with any of Sharp's 1080p displays?

The only thing I can think of is the digital video output, but maybe some non-scaling players have digital output already?

I would assume the sharps have much better scalers than anything you'd get in an upscaling DVD, so like you said, you would be better letting the TV do the work. Unfortunately for my upscaler (a Sony model), it seems to put out a 4:3 signal for 480P ... not sure why, so I'm using 1080i.

For an update on my DVI problems ... using a HDMI cable seems to have fixed all the problems (except for the 480P issue I mention just before). The DVD player now recognizes the set immediately (no blinking HDMI light) and the brightness is back to normal. I guess my DVD player was confused.

My next test has to do with digital audio. I should be getting my (6 foot) toslink in the mail tomorrow ... I'm interested to know if the 90U will send the HDMI digital audio out the toslink line, or just some stereo downmix. If anyone is interested let me know and I'll post the results when I get the hardware.

jdryyz

09-12-06, 06:27 PM

According to info I read in the Oppo thread and other sources, there are more steps involved with taking the native 480p DVD source and upconverting to 1080i than there is with going to 720p. I guess if it does it efficiently and with good results, 1080i output would be preferrable with the Sharp 1080p. You should then be able to select the "Dot by Dot" viewing mode.

I'm mostly happy with the set, but was expecting better black levels (yes, I've done all the usual optimization tweaks) and viewing angle. Its not enough to warrant a return, though. The pros outweigh the cons.

Jeff

Jdryyz - I'm just confused by one thing you said:

I figure 1080i would have fewer steps and look better than 720p. Is that what you meant to say?

Milo

P.S. So how is the set working out for you?

kohi

09-12-06, 07:02 PM

aamilo

09-12-06, 11:36 PM

sbeotra

09-13-06, 12:08 PM

I have had mine for a couple of days now. The PQ is quite good....especialy for HD though that makes SD look bad (still among the better compared to other LCDs out there). Had a couple of Qs:

1. Why do I see side bars for some HD programming (it says 1080i)? It happens for some HD channels like NBC, CBS etc. even when the info says 1080i.

2. The limited viewing angle/wash problem is really there. Has anybody gotten any help from Sharp tech support given the manufacturer's warranty? Will they replace or suggest some solutions or it is what it is.

Many thanks...this forum has been extremely helpful in my purchase decision!

maveric23

09-13-06, 12:32 PM

...1. Why do I see side bars for some HD programming (it says 1080i)? It happens for some HD channels like NBC, CBS etc. even when the info says 1080i...Not all content on HD channels are HD. What you are seeing are SD programs. Unfortunately, only a small percentage of all current programming on the major broadcast channels is actually HD. Check out TitanTV for a listing of HD programs in your area. Check the "HD Only" box and you'll see the limited HD programming.

twak

09-13-06, 07:01 PM

Not all content on HD channels are HD. What you are seeing are SD programs. Very few percent of all programming on the major broadcast channels is actually HD. Check out TitanTV for a listing of HD programs in your area.

Very, very true!

noobtuber

09-14-06, 03:55 PM

klive303

09-14-06, 03:58 PM

I have the same question. I have been looking at the OPPO OPDV971H (not the 970HD) due to the price and picture quality I have been hearing about. Right now I have a Panasonic DVD-F85 and it's 480p output looks really nice. I too would pay for a Oppo "IF" it would make a difference but I'm not sure it would be that noticable. Can anyone that has one comment on the differences between 480p up converted and an oppo up converted?

Jdryyz - I'm just confused by one thing you said:

I figure 1080i would have fewer steps and look better than 720p. Is that what you meant to say?

Milo

P.S. So how is the set working out for you?

I had the OPDV971 hooked up to the LC37D90U via HDMI using both 720p and 1080i. On 720p I noticed a slight sharper picture when I was standing 3 feet from it while watching a video dvd. I had to look realy hard. But sitting 8 feet away and watching film dvd, there was no diference vs. my cheap 480p dvd. So I returned the OPDV971. Too much to pay for something I will not notice 99% of the time.

SnellKrell

09-14-06, 04:01 PM

Have my set about 8 days and love it!

4 on a sofa, 10 feet from screen - no problem.

You have to accept the fact that LCD is not as good as plasma when it comes to viewing at angles.

And no problem with backlight bleed.

Today there is a wonderful deal on this set. Check pricing bots. Well worth the price and more.

jdryyz

09-14-06, 04:38 PM

I've had my 37D90U for a week now and my observations pretty much mirror those of the Consumer Reports First Look article. I do have a narrower viewing angle than what was advertised. The backlight bleeding, while there, is hardly noticeable on my display, however. It helps to have the Backlight at its lowest setting and content covering the entire display (no borders). As for any correlation with build date, I did find out that I have an incrementally higher serial number than another user here but that's it so far. Your milage may vary.

What concerns me more is what isn't mentioned in the article and will likely not get much attention-- the "shakes" when using S-Video sources. Check here for more info: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=661832&page=75&pp=30&highlight=commodore+64

I may submit a report to Sharp's customer service but based on the posts here, complaints on this matter haven't been well received.

The good news is, everything else about this LCD display is fantastic! Although I've only used a handful of LCD's in my life, it probably does have better black levels than most and I'm only seeing one dead pixel so far. I did have have some stucks ones initially but they've worked themselves out.

And as a computer display, it rocks! DVI out from my Mac looks gorgeous and no tweaking of settings was necessary. I even think the default "PC" palette is a good match.

I haven't seen much chatter lately about the 37d90u viewing angle and backlight bleed. there was some indication that later production models were better than the first out the door. I'm looking for a 37" that the whole family can sit down and watch without fighting for the sweet spot. Nobody local carries this unit so I can't go out and see for myslef. Any new owners want to throw in their two cents?

-RC

aamilo

09-14-06, 04:48 PM

I had the OPDV971 hooked up to the LC37D90U via HDMI using both 720p and 1080i. On 720p I noticed a slight sharper picture when I was standing 3 feet from it while watching a video dvd. I had to look realy hard. But sitting 8 feet away and watching film dvd, there was no diference vs. my cheap 480p dvd. So I returned the OPDV971. Too much to pay for something I will not notice 99% of the time.

Thanks for the input! I really like the display from my "cheapo" panasonic 480p so it was really had to believe and upconverting play would look "a lot" better.

Sticking with what I have for now until the HD-DVD vs. Blueray battle is over. ;)

aamilo

09-14-06, 05:09 PM

kevink109

09-14-06, 09:06 PM

I haven't seen much chatter lately about the 37d90u viewing angle and backlight bleed. there was some indication that later production models were better than the first out the door. I'm looking for a 37" that the whole family can sit down and watch without fighting for the sweet spot. Nobody local carries this unit so I can't go out and see for myslef. Any new owners want to throw in their two cents?

-RC

Well I have had my "second" set for almost a month and I can offer the following:

For viewing angle, there is some washout once you get past 45 degrees or so- I find it totally acceptable, and have also found that when viewing HD broadcast OTA that this is less noticeable- we have two sofas and a club chair spread about our family room and no one has yet to get a bad seat.

Backlight bleed- I do have my brightness and backlight turned down- you can notice this on a black screen but for my viewing I can't notice with SD satellite, HDTV, or DVD...

So at this point I would recommend this set to anyone looking for a 37" 1080p LCD display- the picture is stunning with HD content and I am really enjoying my DVDs w/ the Oppo 970 up converting DVD player- excellent picture quality... I hate to say it but it looks like Sony is going to screw up BD so I really have my eye on the new Toshiba HD-XA2 - when this unit comes down a bit I will probably buy.... real 1080p content will look incredible on this set. By the way, my SD content looks darn good on this unit- better than my 26g4 LCD- It was a nice surprise, I would rate the SD viewing on this unit better than the xbr1 Sony, and all of the Panny plasma displays- I have not seen SD on the new xbr2 but I doubt it will be better than the Sharp.

However- if I didn't need the form factor of the 37d90u I would be placing a pre-order for one of the new 46" or 52" units like yesterday, if you got the room wait a bit and the 46" unit will be street priced not far from the opening price of the 37...

maveric23

09-14-06, 09:48 PM

Does anyone find the power and OPC "brite lites" along the bottom right-hand corner distracting?

Is there anyway to disable them?

noobtuber

09-15-06, 06:06 AM

However- if I didn't need the form factor of the 37d90u I would be placing a pre-order for one of the new 46" or 52" units like yesterday, if you got the room wait a bit and the 46" unit will be street priced not far from the opening price of the 37...

I'm definitely limited to 37". It sounds like this is as good as it gets in 37. If all the manufacturers are moving to different sized glass, this will be the last of the Mohicans.

So whatever warts this comes with, it's the best I'll be able to get regardless of how long I wait, unless I want to shell out a bunch for new furniture. Custom furniture, unlike LCDs, isn't going down.

So what's the deal on the S-video screen jumping? I've got a Sega Dreamcast and GameCube? Has anyone had trouble with these? Anyone hook them up without trouble?

-RC

dad1153

09-15-06, 08:21 AM

So what's the deal on the S-video screen jumping? I've got a Sega Dreamcast and GameCube? Has anyone had trouble with these? Anyone hook them up without trouble?

The S-Video juuder is real according to recent posters on the Sharp D90U thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=661832&page=75&pp=30). As for videogames here are the experiences of a fellow gamer, bile, that was kind-enough to do a test for me:

I did some extensive testing of videogame consoles on my LC37D90U tonight.

Definitions:
Jumps: The whole image jumps up and down, including any overlays (menu, etc) by several pixels. It's worse with Quick Shot on. Causes the image to be blurry and just simply annoying.
Good: Things work fine

NES: Composite : Looks bad, better with QS on, otherwise fine
SNES: S-Video & Composite : Good, very faint ghosting which seem to go away with QS on
N64 : S-Video & Composite : Jumps, would look very good otherwise
Gamecube: Component : looks great, depends on game, 480P obviously nicer looking
Xbox : Component : Looks good... especially 720P and 1080P
Saturn : S-Video & Composite : jumps, would look good otherwise
Dreamcast : S-Video : all Good
3DO : S-Video : all good
NeoGeo CD : S-Video : jumps, would look very clean otherwise
Turbo Duo : Composite : jumps, probably look good otherwise
PSone : Composite : jumps, very blurry
PS2 : Component : very clear, PS1 games almost too clear
Phillips CD-I 220 : S-Video : good, very clear

Couldn't test Sega Master System, Sega Genesis, Atari Jaguar. Don't have composite or s-video cables for them ATM. Didn't bother testing anything which didn't have at least composite.

Main Version: 1.09 (U 2006/04/28 1)
BOOT Version: OLYMB1.00

I'm getting this TV replaced Friday so if the version is different I'll try things again and post if different.

bile got his new 37D90U TV and ran the same battery of tests for me. Same result.

ramday

09-16-06, 02:17 AM

aamilo

09-16-06, 02:55 AM

Hey guys. I have my LC37D90U connected to my PC using DVI and I'm having a little problem. I'm not sure if its the TV or the PC but I'm wondering if anyone can help me.

In 1080p with the DOT by DOT the picture, is not aligned correctly. The picture is too far up and too much to the right. The left and bottom side of the screen have black bars. I tried moving the picture using the Fine Sync option but it does not correct the problem.

I had the same kinds of problems for a while and finally got it resolved. The problem is with your video card on the computer. The refresh rates of HDTVs seems to be just slightly different than the refresh rates of an LCD monitor. I have the Nvidia Quadro4 700 XGL card. In the advanced settings it has the option to set custom resolutions & refresh rates. I was told I needed a refresh rate of 59.94 but just setting that did not help. I then saw that there were several "default" custom resolution & refresh rate settings. I ended up using one called "861B (1920 x 1080 @ 59.94) - P". As soon as I hit apply, the screen became perfectly centered!
The problem is that each video card seems to have it's own way to handle this change. Some have said that if you start the computer, set it to 1280x1024 & apply, then restart the computer and set the resolution to 1920x1080 all is well..... well for me this flat out didn't work. I heard other things for other card but I think it all really depends on your card and it's setting.

Hopefully this will help lead you in the right direction.

Milo

ramday

09-16-06, 03:43 AM

Thanks a lot. I gave it a shot but had no luck. From what you say it sounds like every set up is different so here is my set up. I have 2 Geforce 6800GTs in SLI mode. I'm going DVI out of the cards and DVI into the TV. I am using a DVI-D cable.

MGACanuck

09-16-06, 02:52 PM

Not technical and I will not get into specifics, but the MRSP has just dropped like a rock in Canada.

Original MRSP $3000
New MRSP $2300

Just got a price protection refund.

alexb76

09-16-06, 02:53 PM

Not technical and I will not get into specifics, but the MRSP has just dropped like a rock in Canada.

Original MRSP $3000
New MRSP $2300

Just got a price protection refund.

Where in Vancouver?

How do you like it? It seems to be pretty close to price of 37D40... is it worth it? I can still think you can bargain 40U down to $400-500 less... is it worth it?

It seems 90U has advantages in everything but viewing angles.

dad1153

09-16-06, 02:58 PM

It seems 90U has advantages in everything but viewing angles.

And size. 37" is right on the border of 'why bother' for 1080p resolution, but I certainly think it warrants the $500 premium over the 40U model's difference (particularly if its in Canadian funny money :D ). And if you think the MSRP has dropped in Canada you should see the online prices the 37D90U is going for (try google), wow!

MGACanuck

09-16-06, 06:20 PM

Where in Vancouver?

How do you like it? It seems to be pretty close to price of 37D40... is it worth it? I can still think you can bargain 40U down to $400-500 less... is it worth it?

It seems 90U has advantages in everything but viewing angles.

AB Sound. Viewing angle seems pretty good to me, go check it out for yourself. This is what it did after hearing about the viewing angle. Could not see what people were talking about, mine is great.

I did return the speaker as it was shot but that was easy enough to get exchanged, four 4 screws and now the sound works perfectly. I use the dvi input with my Mac PowerBook G4 and it works great.

ZZen

09-16-06, 08:06 PM

AB Sound. Viewing angle seems pretty good to me, go check it out for yourself. This is what it did after hearing about the viewing angle. Could not see what people were talking about, mine is great.

I did return the speaker as it was shot but that was easy enough to get exchanged, four 4 screws and now the sound works perfectly. I use the dvi input with my Mac PowerBook G4 and it works great.

Did A&B Sound just take a speaker from a new boxed tv and give it to you or did they bring one in from Sharp for you? Seymour or Kingsway location? Later.

MGACanuck

09-16-06, 08:44 PM

Did A&B Sound just take a speaker from a new boxed tv and give it to you or did they bring one in from Sharp for you? Seymour or Kingsway location? Later.

Marine Drive A&B Sound. They only had a floor model left, the speaker had not been used so I said I would try it out and if not happy they would order a new tv for me. Orginally I had phoned Sharp, but they wanted me to go through their service center in Richmond. Too much of a pain in the @$$.

They five LC-37D90U on order, which were all spoken for. They were not even sure when they they would getting more stock.

twak

09-16-06, 08:46 PM

AB Sound. Viewing angle seems pretty good to me, go check it out for yourself. This is what it did after hearing about the viewing angle. Could not see what people were talking about, mine is great.

I did return the speaker as it was shot but that was easy enough to get exchanged, four 4 screws and now the sound works perfectly. I use the dvi input with my Mac PowerBook G4 and it works great.

Just looked at this weeks ab sound flyer and the msrp price is 2999.00 (2799.00 with the 200.00 in savings) not 2300.00 like you suggest.

MGACanuck

09-17-06, 02:07 AM

Just looked at this weeks ab sound flyer and the msrp price is 2999.00 (2799.00 with the 200.00 in savings) not 2300.00 like you suggest.

Like I said earlier, the flyer is out dated. The prices on just about all lcds dropped on thursday due to Sony release of new product. Phone them, their price is $2299+tax. This is the new price!!!!

alexb76

09-17-06, 07:33 AM

Like I said earlier, the flyer is out dated. The prices on just about all lcds dropped on thursday due to Sony release of new product. Phone them, their price is $2299+tax. This is the new price!!!!

I will call... that's awesome... will make it much easier to get 90U... almost shoot out on 40U

MGACanuck

09-17-06, 10:19 AM

I will call... that's awesome... will make it much easier to get 90U... almost shoot out on 40U

When you look at the 40 and the 90 together their is a huge difference. You will love the 90.

alexb76

09-17-06, 03:42 PM

When you look at the 40 and the 90 together their is a huge difference. You will love the 90.

When did they see them side by side? and viewing what makes the diff? HD, SD, DVD?

jdryyz

09-18-06, 08:30 PM

Is there anyone here using a VGA-to-component cable connected to the Sharp's component input?

As part of my effort to test all possible input sources, I picked up this cable recently:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10235&cs_id=1023503&p_id=2170&seq=1&format=2&style=

When I made the connection to my laptop and configured the external monitor settings correctly, I could get nothing to display on the Sharp aside from a momentary flash of the resolution indicator in the upper right-hand corner. I tried another laptop and received the same results. I then tried using the cable on my Sony CRT projection set and received the results in the attachment.

I made sure I was only outputting refresh rates at 60Hz and low resolutions but nothing helped. Is there something I'm missing? I'm thinking it is just a bad cable, then I stumbled upon this disclaimer on monoprice's site:

"This cable doesn't support a computer monitor video port, or Y , Cr, Cb Video. Your video source should provide a YpbPr Component Video Signal from the HD 15 video ports to use this cable. This cable can not convert the video signal from one type to another. Both devices must be compatible with the same signal. Do not assume that this cable will work just because you have a VGA port (ie. you can't use this cable to connect your PC to a device that only accepts component video, since PCs do not output component video).

This cable is for Satellite TV, HDTV, Component RGB Video, Y/ Pb /Pr Video and most LCD Projectors."

I'm not sure if that applies to this scenario. Shouldn't be a problem since the VGA out on my laptop is analog and so is the component side. Is there another type of VGA-to-component cable I should be using? I know this type of connection is used quite frequently in the HTPC community.

rjcarr316

09-18-06, 10:31 PM

I may have to get my 90U replaced ... anyone know when a 42 or a 45 will be available?

dad1153

09-18-06, 10:33 PM

I may have to get my 90U replaced ... anyone know when a 42 or a 45 will be available?

Expected around the middle of October (though BB blue shirts are reporting the end of September). Patience grasshopper!

alexb76

09-18-06, 11:08 PM

I may have to get my 90U replaced ... anyone know when a 42 or a 45 will be available?

Why?

rjcarr316

09-18-06, 11:11 PM

alexb76

09-18-06, 11:16 PM

Why to which?

I may have to get it replaced because I had damage to mine during shipping. It didn't affect the glass (and hopefully not the electronics), but the bezel was pretty badly cracked.

I ask about a bigger size because I think 37 is just a tad small for the pixel density ... 42 would be perfect IMHO, but I think Sharp only makes 45, right? If a 42 is available when/if I need to replace, I'll seriously consider it.

Was just wondering why are you getting it replaced. I'm in the same boat, haven't bought the 90U... on the fence and wanna know what happens when the next gen comes out.

BTW, the new 42" supposed to be a 3rd party panel and not as great as their 46" and larger ones.

ZZen

09-19-06, 12:59 AM

"Do not assume that this cable will work just because you have a VGA port (ie. you can't use this cable to connect your PC to a device that only accepts component video, since PCs do not output component video)"

This is EXACTLY the problem in your situation and is the reason your scenario is not working. It is not the fault of the cable.

jdryyz

09-19-06, 09:02 AM

Okay. I wonder how the folks with the HTPCs are getting away with this, then. I've read about VGA-to-component adapters being used with standard PC graphics cards. Could this work because it is a capability of their specific graphics card?

"Do not assume that this cable will work just because you have a VGA port (ie. you can't use this cable to connect your PC to a device that only accepts component video, since PCs do not output component video)"

This is EXACTLY the problem in your situation and is the reason your scenario is not working. It is not the fault of the cable.

jdryyz

09-19-06, 03:12 PM

So am I to understand that I can connect a D-VHS VCR to the 37D90U's i.Link connector and control the deck through the TV's interface? Can scheduled recordings also be made??

This would be a great solution for me as long as the networks aren't imposing any DRM that would affect my recorder. I plan to use a Mitsubishi HS-D2000U. I understand it has no ATSC tuner or component out but I wouldn't need either of those in this setup.

rjcarr316

09-19-06, 03:21 PM

jdryyz: I haven't tried a D-VHS but I have tried a software solution (virtual d-vhs) and I got the software to record the (very, very large) stream. I couldn't however get the TV to control the software, but that is likely a software limitation. If you have a real d-vhs deck, I'm sure it'd work fine. A couple notes:

o it will only stream the digital broadcasts out the i.link, so no analog or any other input source.
o it would be helpful if your d-vhs deck does real-time encoding (i have no experience), because in my few tests I was getting about 200MB per minute (!!).

Let me know if you have any other questions.

NuttyIrishman

09-19-06, 03:56 PM

Been watching this TV for months, have seen in person and amazed by the picture. I just want something a little bigger. I have decided to go with a 42" alternative but I was just looking around just now and found it for ****.** online through a very reputable seller. Might have to change my mind... :eek:

dukemc

09-19-06, 04:28 PM

I just bought a 37D90U yesterday for $1825 + ship...will be here Thursday :) . I'm sure it's from same place you're talking about.

dad1153

09-19-06, 07:18 PM

Guys, prices other than MSRP are not allowed! That said nice deal dukemc, please come back when you get the TV and share with us some first-hand opinions and maybe even some pictures (if you have a digital camera and/or more than 5 posts). If these Sharps weren't so small at 37" I'd get one myself just for the solid picture others rave about.

helvetica bold

09-20-06, 11:00 AM

quick question... will the TV accept an analog 1080p source?
By way VGA>DVI-I adapter...
!!!Microsoft just announced Xbox 360 1080p support via VGA and component!!!!
will it work on the TV?

sorry if this has been covered...

rjcarr316

09-20-06, 11:25 AM

helvetica: I don't have an analog 1080P source so I can't tell you, but if the specs of the connection support it, I'm sure the set does as well.

jdryyz

09-20-06, 12:35 PM

I believe Mike did confirm that 1080p signals over component are supported. I have yet to try it myself. I was hoping to have a chance to but my VGA-component cable didn't fly. :(

aamilo

09-20-06, 12:49 PM

Hi All,

I'm looking for something to record some HD shows with on my 37D90U. I have recently been thinking of getting a Samsung DVD Recorder (DVD-R135).

My question is: Will this work with the i.link on the Sharp to record shows?
It says is has a DV Input (IEEE 1394) to record from camcorders but will that also record from the sharp?

If anyone know or has tried this, please let me know.

Thanks,

Milo

rjcarr316

09-20-06, 01:55 PM

kevink109

09-21-06, 01:41 AM

Hey guys- I didn't see this mentioned but check out the new edition of "The Perfect Vision"- they rate the 37d90u best overall of the units reviewed in this buyers guide... 32" to 42" panels...

Olevia 532h- overall picture quality HD- rating 7

Hitachi 42hdt79- overall picture quality HD- rating 6

Samsung LNS4092d- overall picture quality HD- rating 7

Pioneer PDP4270HD- overall picture quality HD- rating 7

Sharp 37d90u- overall picture quality HD- rating 8 plus a perfect 10 on resolution

" The Sharps picture is simply more engaging than most LCD flat panels that I've seen, with superb detail, great color, and suprisingly good shadow detail. Black level is the set's weak point, but I've yet to see an LCD with really good black level, and the Sharp's is better than many others."

http://www.avguide.com/the-perfect-vision

Pretty nice review.... :cool:

Jedimaster1138

09-21-06, 01:02 PM

Hey what do you fellow 90u (and LCD TV in general) owners use to clean your screens? alcohol product or no alcohol product?

when i bought my tv at harvey's they tried to sell me a 30$ bottle of cleaner, but declined at the time...

any thoughts? anyone know what Sharp's official position is?

SnellKrell

09-21-06, 01:55 PM

I use a Microfiber cloth that's for sale at Staples, CompUSA, etc. - same product used for cleaning laptop screens.

Some people like to use distilled water, I use just a bit of tap water and that's it.

The screens are coated; others have talked about alcohol being alright, but I, personally, wouldn't use anything stronger than water.

Hope that helps you.

aamilo

09-22-06, 01:30 PM

aamilo: I don't know for sure, but it would be hard for me to believe that a DVD recorder would be able to support the enormous amount of data streaming in. As I said earlier in my software tests, the recorded stream was about 250MB per minute, or maybe even more. Unless the recording unit has a huge buffer, or can do some real time encoding, I would assume it wouldn't work.

My guess is you'll need a d-vhs, a av-hdd, or some software solution.

Well you were correct! I saw a fair deal on the Philips DVDR3455H/37 DVD Recorder with 160GB HD and IEEE 1394 port so I thought I'd give it a try. Well the recorder didn't even recognize the TV and the TV couldn't see the recorder either. :(

I'm a little hesitant to get a D-VHS since it doesn't seem to have a way to schedule recordings through the i.link port and I figure the tuner wouldn't be much better than the VHS I have.

Was your computer capture using a Mac? Any other ideas on how to get a 37D90U to "schedule" record shows without the use of a rented cable or sat. box?

aamilo

09-22-06, 01:32 PM

rjcarr316

09-22-06, 01:34 PM

Well you were correct! I saw a fair deal on the Philips DVDR3455H/37 DVD Recorder with 160GB HD and IEEE 1394 port so I thought I'd give it a try.

See, if you said it had an internal HDD then I would have given it a better chance to work, sorry it didn't work out for you.

Was your computer capture using a Mac?

Yeah, the software I mentioned came from the firewire SDK from apple, it was just a sample application. I think a few people have expanded it into something more usable since then, that offers scheduling and such.

Any other ideas on how to get a 37D90U to "schedule" record shows without the use of a rented cable or sat. box?

As I said, there are dedicated devices to do this I think. Check out AV-HDD ... I think that is what you're looking for. There are probably many types that will do many different things.

travis13

09-23-06, 01:49 AM

The xbox 360 will be in 1080p soon as wiil the ps3. Will this tv produce 1080p when connected to a ps3 utilizing a game in 1080p because i think some 1080p televisions will not. Also for $1800 this tv seems like a steal. Thanks

travis13

09-23-06, 01:52 AM

Also I see the contrast ratio is 1200:1. As far as games go how will this tv compare to one that has a 7000:1 contrast ratio?

travis13

09-23-06, 10:46 AM

So when the update comes out this tv will be able to play in full 1080p? If so that is awesome because I have found some great deals on this tv.

travis13

09-23-06, 11:36 AM

I have narrowed my choice to this sharp and the Mitsubishi LT-37131. Only thing is I cant find the contrast ratio for the Mitsubishi anywhere. What do you think between the 2, im also not sure if the mitsubishi will produce full 1080p via hdmi or component with the ps3 or xbox 360.

twak

09-23-06, 02:07 PM

So when the update comes out this tv will be able to play in full 1080p? If so that is awesome because I have found some great deals on this tv.

Yes, and this is a fantastic set.

twak

09-23-06, 02:09 PM

Also I see the contrast ratio is 1200:1. As far as games go how will this tv compare to one that has a 7000:1 contrast ratio?

Apples and oranges, 1200:1 true contrast ratio and the 7000:1 is a dynamic contrast ratio. I read somewhere that 1200:1 is comparable to 8000:1 in terms of dynamic.

travis13

09-23-06, 05:01 PM

Is this a sale for a limited time? I just dont understand why the price is so good. Some 1080p televisions will not display true 1080p with the ps3 and this one does for hundreds less. Just one more question, how does this tv compare to the the XBR2 and SXRD LcOs televisions for movies and games (I just have basic non-digital cable but I have a kick ass internet connection, lol). As of now this is the television I will purchase first thing come Monday, and I will be saving over a grand compared to the XRB2.

rjcarr316

09-23-06, 05:13 PM

travis: As far as LCDs go, this is probably the best panel you can buy right now. Most LCD round-ups this set comes out on top. The other sets you mentions aren't LCDs (nor even flat panels), so different techs are going to have different advantages and disadvantages. It is going to be a personal preference, but I can tell you that you'll be satisfied with your d90u purchase.

dad1153

09-23-06, 05:13 PM

travis, if you don't mind the size (37" is borderline as far as 1080p is concerned) the 37D90U is a good buy. You asked on the 'PlayStation' forum which TV would be good for you. I left some answers for you there (go check) but I didn't include the 37D90U because I think it's just a tad too small and doesn't offer PIP or other fancy features. Read the CNET and Consumer Report reviews (google 'Sharp 37D90U' and follow the link) and, if you can live with the small size and can find it well below $2K, buy it. If its $2K or higher keep shopping, you CAN get it much cheaper than that. I'd like to buy one myself but I want bigger than 37" for all my PS3, XBox 360 and HD-DVD/Blue-Ray needs! :(

Oh, and about the Mitsubishi LT-37131. It uses the exact same panel as the 37D90U (a Sharp panel) while the 46" Mitsubishi model will be using Samsung panels. Mitsubishi's 37" offers PIP, cable card, a swivel stand (motorized or manual) and separate PC connections (all stuff not offered on the Sharp). Hope that helps, and let us know what you decide.

travis13

09-23-06, 05:59 PM

So basically the Mitsubishi is just a step up from the Sharp? Is the contrast ratio on the Mitsubishi the same as the Sharp?

D1013

09-23-06, 06:20 PM

as to the previous poster, I just bought a "Monstercable" screen cleaner that I saw at my local circuit city but bought online for less.

I bought this set recently and let me say it was hard to find (only one chain store I could find in a 1 hour radius from my home carried this item so I could see the picture for myself). I asked them to play a DVD HDMI upconverter and the picture blew everyone away, including other customers who immediately became interested. The store said the price was down $500 and the label said it wasn't 1080p but 13xx-by-7xx. When looking closely at the DVD picture using my Sony DVP-NS75H DVD-HDMI upconverter you can see many scan lines and lots of blur but from the recommended distance of at least 8 feet everything looks fabulous. Anyway I became aware of this set after the huge review by consumer reports and "very good" review from CNET. I still have some questions though.

1) CNET says that at factory settings all the picture settings are "good" or "average". Does the 37D90U still need some tweaking? I have no idea what I'm doing when I try to adjust settings with a calibration DVD (sometimes I feel like I'm making things worse). One complaint for me is that the picture gets so bright that it feels like I'm staring at the sun and I was wondering if I could make an appropriate adjustment without altering the great picture quality.

2) In the near future I will probably buy a PS3 and an HD-DVD player to go along with my HD-Tivo and DVD-upconverter and PS2 so I'm wondering what people would recommend since the 37D90U has limited connection options and I don't want to buy an external HDMI switch. I was thinking HDMI for PS3 and HD-DVD, component for HD-Tivo (does component carry 1080p or only HDMI does?), DVI for DVD-upconverter and S-Video for PS2. Anybody have better suggestions?

I was initially worried that this thread was so small as if I had made the right purchase but I just was not impressed with the Panny Plasma or the Sony Bravia. Perhaps it just means that many 37D90U owners are happy with their purchase as I know large threads are usually filled with complaints.

sbeotra

09-24-06, 01:41 PM

For people who are not experiencing any viewing angel/color washout problem at angles, could you please share your settings?

I have mine at
OPC: OFF
Backlight -10
Contrast +30
Brightness +3
Color -1
Tint +2
Sharpness 0
Advanced:
Color Temp: Mid-High
Black: ON
Digital Noise Reduction: LOW

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I am experiencing an appreciable color washout at more than 25 degrees.

Many Thanks!

ZZen

09-24-06, 05:14 PM

Yes through all connections (DVI, Component, and HDMI). I have my 360 running through VGA->DVI-I right now and it looks fantastic.

I have the resolution set to 1280 x 720 but with the fall update I heard that Microsoft has confirmed 1920 x 1080p resolution support for VGA.

Strangely, though, the 37d90u does NOT accept analog 1080 from VGA to it's DVI(-I) port. It's DVI port does accept 1080 from a digital source (DVI or HDMI). So the VGA xbox 360 output at 1080 won't work from what I've read.

enricot

09-24-06, 05:22 PM

I just purchased a VGA cord for the XBox 360 and an VGA to DVI-I adapter; however the adapter I purchased is too long. The adapter I purchased is made by Belkin and is roughly two inches long. Does anyone know where I can purchase an adapter which will not be restricted by space?

twak

09-24-06, 08:23 PM

enricot

09-24-06, 09:56 PM

Thank you. I gave it another shot and it worked. I wish 1920 X 1080 was available today. I cannot wait for the update.

dad1153

09-24-06, 10:02 PM

Thank you. I gave it another shot and it worked.

Wait, you're saying you got your 37D90U to accept the VGA connection from the Xbox 360 by converting the VGA out of the 360 into a DVI that the Sharp accepted and displayed without any problems? Did I understand this correctly?

twak

09-24-06, 10:28 PM

Wait, you're saying you got your 37D90U to accept the VGA connection from the Xbox 360 by converting the VGA out of the 360 into a DVI that the Sharp accepted and displayed without any problems? Did I understand this correctly?

Yes, I as well use a VGA -> DVI-I for my 360. and it looks perfect in a 1280 x 720p resolution.

But as Zzen said and I have confirmed for myself, the largest resolution this set will accept via VGA analog signal is 1280 x 1024. So unless Microsoft comes out with a DVI conection I (we are hooped).

Dad can you confirm or deny that this set receives 1080p over component?

I am having great difficulty in figuring out how to connect my PS3 come November.

All my digital ports are used.

Hdmi for upconverting dvd, another hdmi for cable box, and dvi for 360. So I am thinking of an external hdmi switch or going to component for the 360 and using an hdmi -> dvi cable for my PS3.

Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

enricot

09-24-06, 10:34 PM

It worked. The only reason I even tried was I saw Twak's post. I thought it was worth a shot. It does not display a 1080i picture; however it does display a 720p signal which is accepted by the 37D90U. I cannot wait until I can send it a 1080p signal in November. I can now use my XBox 360 to upconvert DVDs to 720p.

dad1153

09-24-06, 10:41 PM

Dad can you confirm or deny that this set receives 1080p over component?

I don't own the 37D90U but I've seen it in a dozen stores and read all info about it. This set doesn't accept 1080p over component. The only 1080p LCD's out now that accept 1080p over component are the Westinghouse 37/42/47 models and the Samsung 4X95D/4X96 LCD's.

twak

09-24-06, 10:46 PM

I don't own the 37D90U but I've seen it in a dozen stores and read all info about it. This set doesn't accept 1080p over component. The only 1080p LCD's out now that accept 1080p over component are the Westinghouse 37/42/47 models and the Samsung 4X95D/4X96 LCD's.

Thanks.

gopherblue

09-25-06, 10:52 AM

Background:
I owned and returned a 37d90u earlier in the summer. I loved it in every respect except two: size and backlight bleed. Size--I think 42" is ideal for my viewing location, and I felt that I could go a little bigger than 37". Backlight bleed--as anyone who followed the old Sharp d90 thread knows, I had what I thought was pretty bad backlight bleed on this set. I decided to exchange it, but actually returned it upon learning about the new sets coming in Oct (d62 series).

Issue:
The 37d90u is now outrageously inexpensive, even from certain online vendors who are authorized dealers. We're talking less than half the price of the new 46d62u.

I have been waiting for the 46" set. The new 42" is a 3-wavelength backlight, and made by a third party, so it is a step back specs-wise from the 37d90u, so it is not really being considered (thus the 46"). But at the price that the 37" is going for now (almost $1000 less than I originally paid), it seems like the best deal out there now. Also, since it is clear that come Feb, there will be a d92 series with incredible specs, it seems like paying a premium for the d62 series now is foolish, given that the 37d90u is so cheap and offers such performance.

Should I go with the 37d90u and save my cash? I'm eager for a bigger screen than 37", and the specs on the bigger sets (including the rumored d92 series) are amazing.
Is backlight bleed still an issue for anyone here? Has it been resolved?

Thanks,
Goph

helvetica bold

09-25-06, 11:23 AM

Noooooooo, analog 1080p *!!!!
(*dream crushed)

My 360 is also connected VGA > DVI-I adapter and I was looking forward to
VGA 1080p from my Xbox. I excpect more for a $3000 TV!

Has anyone tried just to be sure, perhaps connecting a computer to test?

richard korsgren

09-25-06, 11:37 AM

gopherblue

09-25-06, 12:07 PM

..No premium for the Sharp lc 52d62u. How does $3700. delivered seem to you?

Too big. And $2000+ more than the 37d90u delivered.

maveric23

09-25-06, 01:52 PM

...I excpect more for a $3000 TV!...
Are you refering to the 37d90u? If so, it's more like $1,600...

D1013

09-25-06, 04:48 PM

I've had my 37D90U for about 3 days now and I only watch about 5 hours on average a day however, I have major eye strain after watching this LCD TV with both the lights on and off and a little headache, and the eye strain lasts even when I'm not watching TV. Sometimes I see spots and my regular vision is blurry. I guess I have this problem with all LCD since I sometimes get the same problem with lots of motion on my LCD computer monitor?

Has anybody else experienced or written about this problem or know how I can fix it? I really like this TV but don't want to do any long term permanent damage to my eyes. If there is a more appropriate thread or website can you please link me up? Thanks :) :eek:

dad1153

09-25-06, 04:54 PM

Is this your first LCD TV D1013? Usually people coming from a lifetime of SD CRT viewing (excluding computer use) experience an early period of getting used to HDTV's increased resolution that leaves them with a little early eye strain that goes away after a few days. If you're used to HDTV by now then you may have a sensitivity to LCD motion response and might have to look for another technology with better refresh rates (DLP, rear projection, plasma, etc.).

SnellKrell

09-25-06, 04:57 PM

alexb76

09-25-06, 04:57 PM

kohi

09-25-06, 06:29 PM

Are you refering to the 37d90u? If so, it's more like $1,600...

only $1,600 ??? :eek: :eek: :eek:

maveric23

09-25-06, 07:15 PM

only $1,600 ??? :eek: :eek: :eek:
Well, that's from an authorized online dealer. My local Magnolia still wants full retail. :rolleyes:

D1013

09-25-06, 08:16 PM

I also have a large rear-projection HDTV but yes this is my first LCD HDTV since upgrading from CRT. The problem is shopping for HDTV under 37" is pretty much non-existant if you cannot have an LCD. There is 37" Plasma which doesn't look that great and there is the Sony XBR "34 which weighs 250lbs and is probably a pain to move or get rid of. Not to mention I really like the 37D90U.

The thing with my eye doctor is he's a bastard. Everytime I go in he always says I need NEW glasses and that my eyes are getting worse just so he can make a buck. For that reason alone I haven't seen him in like 7 years. I can't change eye doctors either cause he's a close friend of the family.

I reduced the backlight more than half (the setting was MAX power as default) and moved the TV further back about 1 foot to about 8 feet away from seating. The TV is sitting on a 25" stand which puts it slightly above viewing angle (I wonder if that causes I strain). I'll tough it out with this TV for another week and hopefully my eyes will get used to it. Honestly, I really like this TV and wouldn't mind having to wear glasses while watching this set in order to keep it. :D

Also, does it matter if you adjust your TV settings using "Dynamic" instead of "user"? I couldn't change the main settings other than Dynamic.

mitchy_mitch

09-25-06, 10:30 PM

Hi. I just purchased a new Sharp LC-37D90U and I was hoping you could share your settings (Color, tint, Backlight ....etc).

Currantly, I find my settings a little off. My TV setting is set like this:

OPC = ON
Backlight = -10
Brightness = +32
Color = 0
Tint = 0
Sharpness = +1

Advanced settings:

Black = ON
Monochrome = OFF
Flim Mode = ON
Color Temperature = Middle
3D-Y/C = Fast
Range of OPC = Max +6 ...... Low -15

* Using a Motorola PVR/HD Box with a DVI cable set into Input 5
User settings:

TV Type: 16:9
DVI Output: 1080i
4:3 Override: 480P

lorenzow

09-26-06, 11:12 AM

The thing with my eye doctor is he's a bastard. Everytime I go in he always says I need NEW glasses and that my eyes are getting worse just so he can make a buck. For that reason alone I haven't seen him in like 7 years. I can't change eye doctors either cause he's a close friend of the family.

I don't need an eye doctor to tell me my eyes are getting worse every year. (unless it's because my arms are getting shorter)

Sleestack666

09-26-06, 01:11 PM

When is the replacement for the 90U supposed to be available?

The 37" size is perfect for me, but I'm trying to decide on the 40" XBR3 or this Sharp. The XBR3 would be perfect, but I could do w/o the extra 3" of viewing space and the glass border.

cmonster32

09-26-06, 04:53 PM

My 37D90 arrived about a month ago. I wanted a 1080P display that would hook up to my computer over DVI. This seemed like it would fit the bill. The repair guy left today with my set still having a number of issues. He has now replaced the main board twice, and one of the secondary boards once. I wanted to see if anyone else on here has seen these issues, and if so, did you get them fixed.

1) 480i composit input makes the image shake up and down

2) 640x480 and 800x600 on DVI have similar shake to 480i

3) DVI input at any resolution has issues with blocks of color. Easiest to see with a red area on a white background. To show you what I am talking about, you can look at this image (still don't have 5 posts):
home_woh_rr_com-bdkphoto-P8282130.JPG
Over in the paint program, you can see a black line on the right side of the area that is painted red. The '65" Aquos LC-TV' on the browser should be all red. It shouldn't have a black shadow effect. Green and blue have issues as well, but red is easiest to see.

Any pointers or suggestions are welcome. I think I had seen a post somewhere, on someone with jittery 480i, but I haven't seen anyone else have these sorts of issues with DVI.

D1013

09-26-06, 05:22 PM

Reduce backlight!

I reduced backlight from -10 (as many people recommend) to -12 and it seems to improve and hurt my eyes less. I would have reduced backlight more but it seemed to seriously compromise PQ.

I have found that not trying to focus too much on any particular spot and just viewing the TV in its entirety helps some. :D

R11

09-26-06, 05:58 PM

It's not just the backlight. Make sure your brightness is turned down as well.

ron

jdryyz

09-26-06, 06:30 PM

1) I too have the image shake over both composite and S-Video from some sources. While it is annoying at times, it doesn't happen for the majority of devices so I'm living with it.

2) I haven't had the need to try anything lower than 1920 x 1080p over DVI but I suspect it will work fine with my Mac which seems to be born to work with this display.

3) I believe I have seen an image from you before but I cannot pull up the one below, however. Have you tried adjusting your sharpness and color controls? I noticed severe RED push and artifacts around text when using the PC palette settings over DVI. When I reduced the sharpness all the way down and backed off the color a bit, it looked much better.

My 37D90 arrived about a month ago. I wanted a 1080P display that would hook up to my computer over DVI. This seemed like it would fit the bill. The repair guy left today with my set still having a number of issues. He has now replaced the main board twice, and one of the secondary boards once. I wanted to see if anyone else on here has seen these issues, and if so, did you get them fixed.

1) 480i composit input makes the image shake up and down

2) 640x480 and 800x600 on DVI have similar shake to 480i

3) DVI input at any resolution has issues with blocks of color. Easiest to see with a red area on a white background. To show you what I am talking about, you can look at this image (still don't have 5 posts):
home_woh_rr_com-bdkphoto-P8282130.JPG
Over in the paint program, you can see a black line on the right side of the area that is painted red. The '65" Aquos LC-TV' on the browser should be all red. It shouldn't have a black shadow effect. Green and blue have issues as well, but red is easiest to see.

Any pointers or suggestions are welcome. I think I had seen a post somewhere, on someone with jittery 480i, but I haven't seen anyone else have these sorts of issues with DVI.

cmonster32

09-26-06, 07:15 PM

1) I too have the image shake over both composite and S-Video from some sources. While it is annoying at times, it doesn't happen for the majority of devices so I'm living with it.

Only have one device I am concerned with, and if this was the only issue I was having, it wouldn't be worth my time and energy to get it fixed, although when paying this much for a TV, it ought to work.

2) I haven't had the need to try anything lower than 1920 x 1080p over DVI but I suspect it will work fine with my Mac which seems to be born to work with this display.

I have some games that I know will want to run at a lower resolution, otherwise I wouldn't care about these modes myself.

3) I believe I have seen an image from you before but I cannot pull up the one below, however. Have you tried adjusting your sharpness and color controls? I noticed severe RED push and artifacts around text when using the PC palette settings over DVI. When I reduced the sharpness all the way down and backed off the color a bit, it looked much better.

Fifth post, now I won't have to do stupid things to the URLs to get them into the post. I believe I posted in the more general Sharp Aquos 2006 thread.

I tried the full range on all the user controls. To no avail. Sharpness was one of the first ones I tried. I currently have it set to 0. Less seems to have no effect, and greater than 0 just introduces ringing. I also hooked this computer with this video card and cable to my previous set a 37G4U and a Viewsonic LCD monitor. It worked fine with those at resolutions, that I then tested on this TV. This TV was the only one that had any issues.

GDMeyer

09-27-06, 09:16 PM

Well you were correct! I saw a fair deal on the Philips DVDR3455H/37 DVD Recorder with 160GB HD and IEEE 1394 port so I thought I'd give it a try. Well the recorder didn't even recognize the TV and the TV couldn't see the recorder either. :(

I'm a little hesitant to get a D-VHS since it doesn't seem to have a way to schedule recordings through the i.link port and I figure the tuner wouldn't be much better than the VHS I have.

Was your computer capture using a Mac? Any other ideas on how to get a 37D90U to "schedule" record shows without the use of a rented cable or sat. box?

It's easy to record "over the air" high-definition programs on your LC37D90U and your Mac Mini (or other Mac) using a large external HFS formatted hard drive.

1) Connect a firewire cable between your TV and your Mac.
2) Download the "FireWireSDK22" directory (developer/Development_Kits/FireWireSDK22.dmg) from the Apple ftp site then open the "Virtual DVHS" video recorder application that's included.
3) Open the bottom door of your remote control and press the iLink button.
4) Add the "Apple Computer" video recorder item to the list of devices.

Now you can use either the Mac's "Virtual DVHS" video recorder or the TV's "Apple Computer" video recorder (i.link button on remote) to record, play, fast forward, or rewind after tuning to the station you want to record. Make sure you set the recording path to your large external hard drive since this records up to 9 GB per hour!

I am currently automatically recording programs on a weekly basis using Applescripts within iCal on my Mac Mini. If you are interested, I can give you scripts that record in 30 minute intervals, 1 hour intervals, or 2 hour intervals.

This is has been working flawlessly for me! :)

The LC37D90U is an outstanding HDTV, 37" 1080p computer monitor, and an HD recorder. What an incredible value! :)

ZZen

09-27-06, 09:32 PM

twak

09-27-06, 10:38 PM

kevink109

09-28-06, 12:20 AM

mitchy_mitch

09-28-06, 12:20 AM

Question???

Am I loosing picture quality having a DVI to a DVI connection???

I have my Motorola DCT 6208 (DVI out) connected to my 37D90U (DVI in).

Would i get better picture quality using a DVI to a HDMI cord???

THX Mitch

greek boy

09-28-06, 09:32 AM

Hello to all,

I am a new member on this forum and I would like to say hello to all of you.
I have an LC 37G4U with avc box about 2 years old. I am seriously considering ths LC37D90U although i am not crazy about the bottom speaker. I prefer the side ones. Do the speakers on those two models are the same? I do like the ones with the tiny tiny holes that the LC 37G4U has.
I do know that the LC37D90U has 1080p comapred to 1080i with the model that I have and I also know that I will lose PIP and the PCMCIA slot.
I would like to know if it is worth to go for that model. Does anyone know what video chips those two models use? And any information regarding quality preformance or anything you can think, advantages and disadvantages between those 2 models would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

rjcarr316

09-28-06, 01:07 PM

I also posted this in the DVR/PVR section but thought I'd repeat is here ...

I have a Sharp 37D90U that will output its digital broadcasts over firewire (i.Link). I've tested this with software from Apple called Virtual-DVHS. It works, but since there is no encoding but just capturing of the stream, the file sizes are HUGE (about 250MB per minute I think).

I'm looking for a dedicated hardware solution, I think they are called AV-HDD, but they are hard to come by when I look around. All I need it to do is capture, encode, and store the stream and then be able to play it back out the firewire, preferably controllable by the Sharp directly (I'm pretty sure the set has built in functionality to pull the data as well as push, but I couldn't get this working with V-DVHS).

Can anyone recommend a product like this? If you are unsure if it works with the Sharp specifically that is OK, I can do some research and testing of my own. Thanks!

rjcarr316

09-28-06, 01:13 PM

Does anyone find the fan an issue either during quiet/silent parts of a movie or even after the tv was shut off in a quiet/small living room? Thx.

I can only hear the fan only when there is no volume on the input (anyone else noticed discrete volume settings for each input?) ... the fan shuts off after the display is turned off, but for me it is 5-10 *seconds*. He must be in a really hot room or something to experience 30 minutes ... or it is a defect.

Only the most pickiest-of-picky audiophiles would have a problem with this fan, IMHO.

rjcarr316

09-28-06, 01:14 PM

Am I loosing picture quality having a DVI to a DVI connection???
Would i get better picture quality using a DVI to a HDMI cord???

As far as I know, HDMI is just DVI with Audio. I would say the video quality would be exactly the same in both cases.

rjcarr316

09-28-06, 01:21 PM

I do know that the LC37D90U has 1080p comapred to 1080i with the model that I have and I also know that I will lose PIP and the PCMCIA slot.
I would like to know if it is worth to go for that model. Does anyone know what video chips those two models use?

If you're happy with your current set I'd stick with it. I have a 45GD7U at work and a 37D90U at home, and although the 90U has a slightly noticible better picture (especially in lower resolutions) the difference doesn't seem worth it.

Only if you have a lot of disposable income and/or can get someone to buy the current set to make the difference small, I'd stick with what you have and get something even better when the time comes.

The only appreciable advantage I see to the 90U is, as you say, is the 1080P, but that isn't much of an issue until HD-DVD is more popular, and even then it isn't that big of a deal anyway. I use 1080i at my work connected to a mac mini and it is great.

jdryyz

09-28-06, 02:51 PM

Isn't there some way to get the stream into iMovie HD? If so, problem solved.

I also posted this in the DVR/PVR section but thought I'd repeat is here ...

I have a Sharp 37D90U that will output its digital broadcasts over firewire (i.Link). I've tested this with software from Apple called Virtual-DVHS. It works, but since there is no encoding but just capturing of the stream, the file sizes are HUGE (about 250MB per minute I think).

I'm looking for a dedicated hardware solution, I think they are called AV-HDD, but they are hard to come by when I look around. All I need it to do is capture, encode, and store the stream and then be able to play it back out the firewire, preferably controllable by the Sharp directly (I'm pretty sure the set has built in functionality to pull the data as well as push, but I couldn't get this working with V-DVHS).

Can anyone recommend a product like this? If you are unsure if it works with the Sharp specifically that is OK, I can do some research and testing of my own. Thanks!

rjcarr316

09-28-06, 02:57 PM

Isn't there some way to get the stream into iMovie HD? If so, problem solved.

Good point ... that could be a solution, but I forgot to mention that I just used my mac as a test. Ideally, I'd like a cheap-ish device to do this and have it connected at all times, and not have to go out and buy a dedicated mac mini or something.

If using a mac is the only option then okay, but I'd like to hear alternatives first.

Thanks.

mikecoscia

09-28-06, 03:30 PM

How far are most of you guys sitting? My recliner is about 6 ft way wonder if this TV is too large for that.

Also can you get 1080p on the component imputs as well as the HDMI and DVI?

kohi

09-28-06, 03:41 PM

I see much speculation in previous posts...

anyone???

thanks!

mikecoscia

09-28-06, 04:06 PM

Never mind read in the thread that 1080p analog is not supported. Oh well wanted to get a DVDO anyway, now I have a good excuse. Component 720p analog, upscaled by DVDO and out via HMDI =).

Oh what is this about.....

"So when the update comes out this tv will be able to play in full 1080p? If so that is awesome because I have found some great deals on this tv. "

I saw it earlier in the thread. And my first question still stands is a sitting distance of 6ft to close for a 37" Will I notice a lot of artifacts?

D1013

09-28-06, 04:30 PM

I saw it earlier in the thread. And my first question still stands is a sitting distance of 6ft to close for a 37" Will I notice a lot of artifacts?

For SDTV the distance that I was recommended and works great for me is 3x the diagonal of your TV set. So for a 37" TV that is about 9.25 feet. Personally I sit about 7 feet and thats perfect for SD and DVD. Of course you can sit closer for HDTV.

I was wondering if there is anything I could do with an external hard drive that I have that has TV shows. If I hook it up to the TV via iLink will I be able to watch the TV shows I have stored or will I need a computer or program to play the shows?

aamilo

09-28-06, 04:44 PM

It's easy to record "over the air" high-definition programs on your LC37D90U and your Mac Mini (or other Mac) using a large external HFS formatted hard drive.

1) Connect a firewire cable between your TV and your Mac.
2) Download the "FireWireSDK22" directory (developer/Development_Kits/FireWireSDK22.dmg) from the Apple ftp site then open the "Virtual DVHS" video recorder application that's included.
3) Open the bottom door of your remote control and press the iLink button.
4) Add the "Apple Computer" video recorder item to the list of devices.

Now you can use either the Mac's "Virtual DVHS" video recorder or the TV's "Apple Computer" video recorder (i.link button on remote) to record, play, fast forward, or rewind after tuning to the station you want to record. Make sure you set the recording path to your large external hard drive since this records up to 9 GB per hour!

I am currently automatically recording programs on a weekly basis using Applescripts within iCal on my Mac Mini. If you are interested, I can give you scripts that record in 30 minute intervals, 1 hour intervals, or 2 hour intervals.

This is has been working flawlessly for me! :)

The LC37D90U is an outstanding HDTV, 37" 1080p computer monitor, and an HD recorder. What an incredible value! :)

Thanks for that input. I'd take you up on the scripts but I don't have a MAC and haven't been able to get anything like the Virtual DVHS to work on my Windows XP machine. :(

I am now thinking of building a HTPC using the OnAir Creator as an input and a DVI out to the TV.

I looked into some AV-HDDs but the ones I saw seemed to indicate that the TV needed to have the TVGuide built-in so that you could schedule & record. If anyone has heard differently, please let me know so I can try it out.

aamilo

09-28-06, 04:50 PM

How far are most of you guys sitting? My recliner is about 6 ft way wonder if this TV is too large for that.

Also can you get 1080p on the component imputs as well as the HDMI and DVI?

I normally watch TV about 9-10 feet away but do play some games at about 6 feet. I think that the TV at first will feel a little big at 6 feet but you'll get used to it and like the size soon after. The one thing is that SD will look better further away. I think SD looks great at 9 feet but it does vary channel to channel (I have standard "analog" Comcast cable currently).

greek boy

09-28-06, 05:13 PM

If you're happy with your current set I'd stick with it. I have a 45GD7U at work and a 37D90U at home, and although the 90U has a slightly noticible better picture (especially in lower resolutions) the difference doesn't seem worth it.

Only if you have a lot of disposable income and/or can get someone to buy the current set to make the difference small, I'd stick with what you have and get something even better when the time comes.

The only appreciable advantage I see to the 90U is, as you say, is the 1080P, but that isn't much of an issue until HD-DVD is more popular, and even then it isn't that big of a deal anyway. I use 1080i at my work connected to a mac mini and it is great.
thanks rjcarr

do you think avc box is better? or having the connection in the back of the tv? does your 45 has an avc box?

rjcarr316

09-28-06, 05:15 PM

Neither of the sets I have has the breakout box ... I think that is what you mean by the AVC box? On both sets the connection is right to the back of the display.

jdryyz

09-28-06, 05:52 PM

How about an inexpensive DVHS VCR for recording and then import to iMovie for processing?

Good point ... that could be a solution, but I forgot to mention that I just used my mac as a test. Ideally, I'd like a cheap-ish device to do this and have it connected at all times, and not have to go out and buy a dedicated mac mini or something.

If using a mac is the only option then okay, but I'd like to hear alternatives first.

Thanks.

mikecoscia

09-28-06, 06:21 PM

Anyone have plans for getting the new iScan vp50? Wonder how routing all of your sources into it would look =).

Oh also found a place nearby that has the set on display and for a good price. Going to check it out tomrrow, if I come home with it I will try and get it ISF calibrated this weekend and let everyone know how it turns out.

aamilo

09-28-06, 06:48 PM

How about an inexpensive DVHS VCR for recording and then import to iMovie for processing?

Can you get a DVHS to schedule via the firewire? I'm sorry f this it a little off the topic but I know a place selling the Mits HD1100U for ~$149. If I could get it to schedule, that would be the ticket for me. Although from what I have read so far I'd have to be there to hit record for every show I wanted to record. :(

jdryyz

09-28-06, 08:02 PM

Sadly, I have yet to confirm any scheduling capability. I'm expecting an HD2000U pretty soon that I was going to put to the test.

Can you get a DVHS to schedule via the firewire? I'm sorry f this it a little off the topic but I know a place selling the Mits HD1100U for ~$149. If I could get it to schedule, that would be the ticket for me. Although from what I have read so far I'd have to be there to hit record for every show I wanted to record. :(

GDMeyer

09-28-06, 08:56 PM

Thanks for that input. I'd take you up on the scripts but I don't have a MAC and haven't been able to get anything like the Virtual DVHS to work on my Windows XP machine. :(

I am now thinking of building a HTPC using the OnAir Creator as an input and a DVI out to the TV.

I looked into some AV-HDDs but the ones I saw seemed to indicate that the TV needed to have the TVGuide built-in so that you could schedule & record. If anyone has heard differently, please let me know so I can try it out.

Just in case somebody else is interested, here is my "Record 1 hour" AppleScript. You may need to increase the "delay 3" to a higher number if your Mac is slow in opening up the application. (It does not format well in this thread). You can use this in iCal to record each week for the whole television season. I have set several shows to end recording May 2007:

tell application "VirtualDVHS" to activate
delay 3
tell application "System Events"
if (system attribute "sysv") < 4144 or UI elements enabled then
tell application process "VirtualDVHS"
click button 12 of window "VirtualDVHS - Version 2.15"
end tell
else
tell application "System Preferences"
activate
set current pane to pane "com.apple.preference.universalaccess"
beep
display dialog "GUI Scripting is not enabled." & return & return & "Check \"Enable access for assistive devices\" in the Universal Access preference pane (authentication is required), then run this script again." with icon stop buttons {"OK"} default button "OK"
end tell
end if
end tell
delay 3600
tell application "System Events"
if (system attribute "sysv") < 4144 or UI elements enabled then
tell application process "VirtualDVHS"
click button 11 of window "VirtualDVHS - Version 2.15"
end tell
else
tell application "System Preferences"
activate
set current pane to pane "com.apple.preference.universalaccess"
beep
display dialog "GUI Scripting is not enabled." & return & return & "Check \"Enable access for assistive devices\" in the Universal Access preference pane (authentication is required), then run this script again." with icon stop buttons {"OK"} default button "OK"
end tell
end if
end tell

mikecoscia

09-28-06, 09:13 PM

Anyone use a xbox 360 on this set? I would like to know how the 720p looks upscaled to 1080p. Does the xbox 360 look better on a 720p panel opposed to a 1080 because of it? Any lag?

mikecoscia

09-29-06, 05:22 AM

No 360 gamers?

helvetica bold

09-29-06, 10:06 AM

/\ it's the best LCD for gaming IMO.

Xbox 360 + VGA > DVI-I adapter > 37D90U
you won't be disappointed...

rjcarr316

09-29-06, 12:03 PM

Sadly, I have yet to confirm any scheduling capability. I'm expecting an HD2000U pretty soon that I was going to put to the test.

It *is* a VCR after all, although not a traditional one. One would hope it could schedule recordings ... I'll look into it. I assume it is just going to record a stream and not encode anything, correct? How large are the d-vhs tapes (I can and will research myself, of course).

4SeeCraig

09-29-06, 12:48 PM

Can all owners chime in on this comment I found on another site:

"said the fan was still running 1/2 hour after turning off the unit."

Does anyone find the fan an issue either during quiet/silent parts of a movie or even after the tv was shut off in a quiet/small living room? Thx.

When I first got this TV I noticed the fans would run for quite a while (didn’t actually time them) after it was shut off. I found by changing the TV to Standby Mode 2 the fans shut off fairly quickly after the set is turned off. The TV is wall-mounted in a fairly small bedroom.

We don't notice the fans during silent parts of movies because the hard drive in the PVR makes way more noise! My wife keeps asking/telling me, "It's going to shut off, right"? :eek:

jdryyz

09-29-06, 12:50 PM

SD recordings over Air/Cable can be scheduled with the Mits but so far it looks like real-time only for firewire recordings...unless I explore using the scripts I've seen posted for the Mac. I did some testing last night with DVHSCap and obtained good results, but when I went to use MPEG Streamclip to edit/export, the quality didn't look too good. I probably just need to read the FAQ.

You are correct on the encoding. That will require a JVC or Marantz brand DVHS VCR. The Mits lacks ATSC tuner, component out and encoding built-in, but it also has a more reliable transport and can be had inexpensively and *NEW* via many online sites. Not sure on the DVHS tapes. I'm still new to that.

It *is* a VCR after all, although not a traditional one. One would hope it could schedule recordings ... I'll look into it. I assume it is just going to record a stream and not encode anything, correct? How large are the d-vhs tapes (I can and will research myself, of course).

ifti71

09-29-06, 01:53 PM

Jedimaster1138

09-29-06, 02:14 PM

I'm about 9 feet away from my 90U. HD and SD TV via HDMI from TWC HD DVR. HD content is incredible. SD is fine, even when i smartstretch. I think the distance and size is pretty much perfect. Sometimes i wish i had bought/waited for a larger TV, but then i wonder if it would be too big for the room and just look overwhelming.

I've never noticed the fan... the only reason i know it's even in there is because i saw it physically when i was setting up the TV in June. I've NEVER heard it running even in a dead quiet room (i'd like to think i have pretty sharp hearing... i've only been to 3 Metallica shows :-) )

I was just about to FINALLY upgrade to a proper DVD player, the Oppo 971, but it appears to be out of stock both direct and through everyone's favorite Seattle based e-tailer... booo....

rjcarr316

09-29-06, 02:22 PM

As someone already mentioned, the amount of time the fan runs after shut down is almost certainly related to the standby mode of the set. I'm pretty sure the standby mode by default will continue to decode the OTA stuff and output via firewire, which obviously takes a little power, and hence some cooling.

rjcarr316

09-29-06, 02:36 PM

If anyone has tried any of the following AV-HDD units with the D90U please PM me ASAP:

Indigita AVHD
Toshiba Symbio
RCA DVR10
RCA DVR2160

mikecoscia

09-29-06, 02:51 PM

/\ it's the best LCD for gaming IMO.

Xbox 360 + VGA > DVI-I adapter > 37D90U
you won't be disappointed...

Where did you get your adapter?

aamilo

09-29-06, 03:06 PM

If anyone has tried any of the following AV-HDD units with the D90U please PM me ASAP:

Indigita AVHD
Toshiba Symbio
RCA DVR10
RCA DVR2160

Please PM me too. I have a feeling I would like the same input on using these with the D90.

aamilo

09-29-06, 03:10 PM

I called sharp to find about the authorized online resellers.
I was told that Sharp has no registered online retailer.

Its hard to believe. What happens to warranty when a TV is bought from internet stores. It doesnt make sense to pay extra $500-$600 to BB/CCs of the world.

Is everyone buying this set from shops?
if no then
has any one used the warranty to fix defective items?

Thanks in Advance

Some of the online retailers have B&M shops that ARE authorized resellers. I know that "one call" is the online company of Huppins (sp?) so they are an authorized reseller.

Just in case I put some of the saving towards an extended warranty. I know, I know, many people think these are a waste of money (I tend to agree) but it was a small amount to pay for 5 years of piece of mind (real or not). ;)

Bullseye123

09-29-06, 03:22 PM

I bought my 37d90 online at the hometheaterstore back in July. I have always found their Texas B&M stores to be impressive. While the price isn't the lowest on the web, I was very happy with the service and the reputation of the store preceds it. I am not sure of their dead pixel return policy, though I did add the extended warranty. I my case, I have no visible dead/stuck pixels (haven't run any tests),....but in the end....ignorance is bliss

kohi

09-29-06, 03:48 PM

jdryyz

09-29-06, 03:57 PM

I could have swore I read in one these Sharp threads that Mike said 1080p over component *was* supported. I have no way to test it myself though. I thought I was smart by getting a VGA to component cable but that didn't fly. :(

is that confirmed or just hearsay?? has anyone attempted 1080p over the component connection to prove it does or doesn't accept 1080p?

thanks...

rjcarr316

09-29-06, 04:15 PM

Got another question for you guys. I have a Sony Upconverting DVD Player DVP-NS70H connected to my 90U via HDMI. It all works great but I am trying to use the Sharp's remote, and when I program the Sony code into it, everything works but the menu button.

Instead of bringing up the DVD Menu, it brings up the DVD *Player* Menu, the settings and such. Is there anything I can do about this? The Sharp manual gives two codes for Sony DVDs, the first code does as I describe and the second code does nothing at all. Suggestions?

twak

09-29-06, 09:15 PM

/\ it's the best LCD for gaming IMO.

Xbox 360 + VGA > DVI-I adapter > 37D90U
you won't be disappointed...

Exact same connection with my 360 and I absolutely love it. One problem though, in November my new "toy" arrives, the PS3.

This means that the 360 will be going to component and my PS3 will be going HDMI-->DVI, because my two other HDMI inputs are spoken for. Unless of course the 37d90u accepts a 1080p signal via component. I have researched this a bit and it seems it does not, but I will definitely test before switching begins.

I was thinking that maybe I should try a external HDMI switch, any thoughts on this?

I can only find this one in my area but it is a bit expensive.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10068521&catid=21313

rjcarr316

09-29-06, 09:25 PM

twak: Given all the gear you have you likely already have a nice stereo receiver, but many of the newer / nicer ones have built in switching for HDMI and Component (at least). That's just another option for you.

9158

09-29-06, 10:00 PM

Hi everybody.

twak: the switch you have linked to seems a good idea, although it has only two inputs. There are also switches with 3, 4, 5 inputs like the ones you can find on www.octavainc.com.

You could also buy a receiver with integrated HDMI, but these will cost you from $1000 upwards.

I hope this is useful for you! :)

9158

09-29-06, 10:24 PM

Does anybody know if the 37D90U can accept 1080p24 on HDMI?
And if it does accept it, what does it do with the 24p video? Does the Sharp display it at 60 Hz (thereby introducing 3:2 pulldown judder) or at a multiple of 24 Hz (best option)?

I'm thinking of buying this tv but much of the decision depends on this.

(For a discussion about why this would be important, see http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7498541&&#post7498541)

Thanks

mikecoscia

09-29-06, 10:35 PM

Well guys I took the plunge tonite and bout the 37D90U at 6ave, got it for 1638 before tax. Hooked it up and very happy with it so far. A def improvement over my 37D7U. I have an ISF calibrater coming Monday to tweak it all nice.

Question tho. I noticed the C.M.S. controls are not present in this model and also the menus are much slower then other sharps I have tested. Anyone else noticed this?

rjcarr316

09-30-06, 11:09 AM

9158: When I connect my powerbook the TV says 1080P. The mac says 60Hz but that is really all I know. Is there any way I can find out what the set is doing? I'd be happy to test, just not sure how.

mikecoscia: I'd really appreciate it if you could share your calibration results. As for your question about menus, they are the same as the 45GD7U that I have, but it does seem like it takes a bit longer for them to pop up. Generally they do seem a bit unresponsive, I'll have to test my 45" sometime and get back to you.

Does anyone have any input about my remote question?

Does anyone know if an i.Link device is connected (av-hdd or d-vhs, etc) will that device be able to change the channel? I'd like to have something to schedule recordings (like a traditional VCR, I don't care much about time-shifting in real-time) but sorta meaningless if it can't chose the channel to record. Just wondering if this is possible. Thanks!

mikecoscia

09-30-06, 01:21 PM