Saw one in a Walmart in a box-not on display.

http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027613&pathId=78&page=2

I have the AV-30W776 sitting in my living room.

full report, please.

don't expect to see this model any time soon. big disappointment.

Saw the JVC AV-30W777 at my walmart today and I plan on purchasing it on friday after I get paid.

Cannot wait!!! I just wished they had it hooked up instead of just sitting there on a counter in the middle isle.

Glad to see the new JVC models are finally starting to hit the stores. I hadn't been able to find anyone in my area that planned on carrying them. I didn't check with Wal Mart though.

Mavrick can you give a review after you have used the set for a few days?

Glad to see the new JVC models are finally starting to hit the stores. I hadn't been able to find anyone in my area that planned on carrying them. I didn't check with Wal Mart though.

Mavrick can you give a review after you have used the set for a few days?

I know I am glad to see it also for I have been waiting for this model.

My plan is right now to pick it up this evening that is if we do not have one of those afternoon and evening thunderstorms that we have had every day this week.

After I have used it for a few days I will post what I think about it.

I just wish that I could see it hooked up and running in the store instead of sitting in the center isle with no power or signal at all. Guess I will just have to wait until I get it home to see what its picture looks like.

what is the price on this model at walmart. I cann't find it at there website.

what is the price on this model at walmart. I cann't find it at there website.

I believe it's $526, the same as the Phillips

what do you mean i believe, how much does it cost. sound like a great price. a steal

what do you mean i believe, how much does it cost. sound like a great price. a steal
I wouldn't be surprised if that is the correct price. I can't imagine Wal-Mart selling a $700+ 30" CRT, and the few JVC TVs that I've seen in stores were pretty inexpensive.

I wouldn't be surprised if that is the correct price. I can't imagine Wal-Mart selling a $700+ 30" CRT, and the few JVC TVs that I've seen in stores were pretty inexpensive.

I was correct. I went to Wallyworld last night and confirmed the $526 price tag for the JVC

wow, thats a great deal for a 30 widescreen crt tube, with twin hdml. Plus crt blacks are still superior to lcd or plasma. Question what is the picture quality, is there any severe geometry problems?

wow, thats a great deal for a 30 widescreen crt tube, with twin hdml. Plus crt blacks are still superior to lcd or plasma. Question what is the picture quality, is there any severe geometry problems?

I didn't notice any geometry problems when I was playing with It. However I am worried about the build quality. I'm thinking of the Phillips 9110D which they sell for the same price and screen size. That tv has some sh!tty reviews on it. People report it just dying on them.

yes, i agree with you. panasonic used to provide jvc with there tubes. panasonic no longer make crt tubes. Philips is the world largest manufature of crt tubes. they sell their tubes to many other brands. I believe is a philips tube in there. jvc recently admitted of having quality issues with there products.

yes, i agree with you. panasonic used to provide jvc with there tubes. panasonic no longer make crt tubes. Philips is the world largest manufature of crt tubes. they sell their tubes to many other brands. I believe is a philips tube in there. jvc recently admitted of having quality issues with there products.
Panasonic still makes CRT tubes, and the last plant is at Malaysia. Panasonic supplies picture tubes to Orion for Toshiba.

This plant was recently disbanded. panasonic and toshiba no longer make tubes. see google.

Matsushita waves goodbye to cathode ray tubes

Fat panels win


By INQUIRER staff: Thursday 27 July 2006, 08:17

MATSUSHITA PANASONIC said it is shutting its Malaysian factory making CRT (cathode ray tube) displays and will liquidate the joint venture it has their with Toshiba.
The factory makes 21-inch to 32-inch CRTs for the Japanese and North American markets. The reason, according to Matsushita, is a decline in demand for CRTs, intensified price competition and increasing sales of flat panel TVs.

Figures for the JV show it made a net loss of RM969,422 in the financial year to March 2006.

If it is not quite the end of an era, it is the middle of the beginning of the end of an era. It seems few want those cathode rays flying around the living room any more. µ

wow, thats a great deal for a 30 widescreen crt tube, with twin hdml. Plus crt blacks are still superior to lcd or plasma. Question what is the picture quality, is there any severe geometry problems?

I purchased this JVC at Wallyworld on Friday and the picture is just amazing I have not noticed any geometry problems in the few days that I have used it and have been overall pleased with the quality of this set. I still need to calibrate it though and will post more views on it after I do that.

WOW I can't believe the price, $526. That is $200 below suggested retail for that set. I was very surprised when I read here that WM was even selling this set because I thought it was too "high end" for them. They must have negotiated one killer of a deal with JVC. I called one of our local WM stores last week to see if they had it and the guy I spoke with said , "we only have RCA".?? I will probably have to go there myself at some point to see if they are in.

Mavrick did they have the 787 (black) model also or just the 777?

I purchased this JVC at Wallyworld on Friday and the picture is just amazing I have not noticed any geometry problems in the few days that I have used it and have been overall pleased with the quality of this set. I still need to calibrate it though and will post more views on it after I do that.
I don't suppose you could tell us which store this was? or have a SKU for this item?
EDIT: well, after a VERY long hold on the 800 number. Looks like many walmarts are showing "possible stock" ie they should be stocking it and for those of you interested the sku will be 593198

not listed at walmart website. walmart has no jvc tubes listed. no website retailer has it on stock. why would walmart only have it than any other retailer. remember best buy had it listed then they had it removed from there website.

WOW I can't believe the price, $526. That is $200 below suggested retail for that set. I was very surprised when I read here that WM was even selling this set because I thought it was too "high end" for them. They must have negotiated one killer of a deal with JVC. I called one of our local WM stores last week to see if they had it and the guy I spoke with said , "we only have RCA".?? I will probably have to go there myself at some point to see if they are in.

Mavrick did they have the 787 (black) model also or just the 777?

Both the stores in my area only had the 777 model.

where at, which area are you talking about.

I've had the JVC AV-30W585 for almost two years. I paid $750. for it at a retailer that typically charges 10% below MSRP. The Walmart price for the #777 seems too low, but a large-purchase deal might make it possible. According to the specs, my model is 2.8 lbs. heavier than the #777 and it doesn't have a digital tuner. I chose it because it gave the best picture of any HD set I saw and also did very well with SD programs. Its picture is sharp and has excellent colors, but it has a gentle, eye-friendly picture. It doesn't have a brilliant screen that overpowers your senses, but it's one you can watch for hours without fatigue.

The exact number of scanning lines in its display is still a mystery to me. It is advertized as having a 1080i scan and the manual confirms this. Its description indicates that all inputs are scaled up to 1080i. However, when I contacted JVC's technical dept. and asked for some complete specs about its screen, they replied that I was mistaken about the 1080i scan and said that it actually uses a 720p display. What do you make of that? Looking at the wonderful image it gives, especially on fast-moving sports and flying birds, I wouldn't be surprised if it really does use 720p. All these companies are very secretive and often ambiguous about such details and this seems to be an example of that.

where at, which area are you talking about.

Georgia, close to the Atlanta area.

Just looked at one at the local Wally. Clearance priced @$426.00. They are about to move to a super center so they are clearancing some things out.

are you sure is the av-30w776? I sent an email to jvc and i hope to get a response soon.

I know that the one I purchased was the AV-30w777 for it said so on the box that the tv came I just looked at that I would look on the back of the set itself but it is in a TV cabinet and I have no way of seeing the back of it at this time.

are you sure is the av-30w776? I sent an email to jvc and i hope to get a response soon.
AV30W777. $426.00 new in a box.

Either you read the number wrong, or the guy that put the sticker messed up, because this TV is $526.

I got it, and it's a pretty decent set, but it has some geometry problems. Some can be fixed with the service menu and some don't, but there's nothing really bad. For the price it's a good deal.

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Julio,


Thank you for your recent email inquiry. We, at the JVC companies,
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:32 PM
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julio torres
email: julio388@yahoo.com

Model: AV30W777
The Product type is: Television
The inquiry type is: Other

E-Mail Body: can you please help me find where can i buy this model crt
hdtv av30w777. Is it available? Best buy had it listed on-line but it
was removed. no retailer on-line has it on stock. Is this product
discontinued. thank you. can you pinpoint me to any retailer that may
have it on stock. thanks.

unfortunately this product is not currenly available according to jvc customer support service. I called and verify that this model av-30w777 is not on the market yet. either jvc information is inaccurate or a couple of people in here are lying. Lets keep this thread with honest bloggers. Its a shame that people tend to lie and spread misinformation.

unfortunately this product is not currenly available according to jvc customer support service. I called and verify that this model av-30w777 is not on the market yet. either jvc information is inaccurate or a couple of people in here are lying. Lets keep this thread with honest bloggers. Its a shame that people tend to lie and spread misinformation.

Well, I guess either JVC customer service is not in good communication with their distribution department, or Walmart stole a bunch of these sets from JVC, because I bought it from Walmart, and I've seen them in at least 3 of their stores. There are not a lot of them, it's like that Sanyo 30", you see one or two boxes every once in a while and then they're gone for weeks.

I bought it from Walmart, and I've seen them in at least 3 of their stores.
Aren't you like the fifth person to say something like that? This conspiracy to trick julio388 is really getting out of control! :rolleyes:

Just for the record I visited two local WalMarts here in the Orange County, CA area and neither one had any JVC's in stock or any tags for it. Must be very limited.

It may be. I've read many times in these forums about people saying they had found a particular set in some city, whereas some other people haven't seen it at all. It may take a while, but I'm sure eventually it will reach every Walmart.

But just so everybody knows, don't think of this set as the miracle HDTV that will blow all others away. It's not terrible, but it's not such a great set either. I'm not even sure I'm going to keep it, but I'll keep it for a little longer and if I don't like it I'll go back to the LCD Sanyo that I had before this.

just stop it! I am so sick of all this bullshit lies and deceptions. called jvc and email and quest what, not available yet. then all this limited sighting, sound like the x-files . So you expect me to go on this egg hunt voyage to find this model. do me a favor show us some picks. then we will know for sure its out there.

just stop it! I am so sick of all this bullshit lies and deceptions. called jvc and email and quest what, not available yet. then all this limited sighting, sound like the x-files . So you expect me to go on this egg hunt voyage to find this model. do me a favor show us some picks. then we will know for sure its out there.
Don't worry, I'm sure the Wal-Mart in Crazy Town will have them soon.

Julio, seriously calm down man. Don't be so fast to call BS on people because the Wal-mart just down the street from me has this JVC model on display for $526 and they have a few boxes in stock. I actually found this thread because I was hoping to find some feedback on it, as it replaced the Philips that used to be on display along with the Sanyo. It would seem it is very limited availablity but don't call people liars because some customer support moron who doesn't know anything more than is told to them told you that it isn't available yet. Remember, Wal-mart isn't a plain old retailer, they have some pull when it comes to getting things in. An before you ask, no, I will not make a special trip up to Wal-mart with a camera just to prove to you that they exist. I just want to alert everyone that if they are interested in this set that there may be some in stock at your local Wal-mart, so go check them out.

Joe

Also, Sebaz, I am really interested in this set so I was hoping you could give your opinion on image quality compared to other 30" tube HDTV's available. Looking at the JVC right next to the Sanyo, it looked like the JVC had much finer detail and no blatantly obvious geometry issues. I'm going to watch a fair amount of standard cable on it so if you could provide some insight as to how well it displays non-HD material I would be most appreciative. Thanks!

Joe

just stop it! I am so sick of all this bullshit lies and deceptions. called jvc and email and quest what, not available yet. then all this limited sighting, sound like the x-files . So you expect me to go on this egg hunt voyage to find this model. do me a favor show us some picks. then we will know for sure its out there.


Umm, calm down dude. Just because you don't have it where you live doesn't make everyone else a liar. I can guarantee that they have this display down at my local Walmart for $526.

just stop it! I am so sick of all this bullshit lies and deceptions. called jvc and email and quest what, not available yet. then all this limited sighting, sound like the x-files . So you expect me to go on this egg hunt voyage to find this model. do me a favor show us some picks. then we will know for sure its out there.

Dude, first of all, my camera USB cable is broken and I still haven't bought another one, so even if I took a picture, I couldn't transfer it to the computer. And I would actually waste the time to prove to you that I have it, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.

Fox Mulder

Also, Sebaz, I am really interested in this set so I was hoping you could give your opinion on image quality compared to other 30" tube HDTV's available. Looking at the JVC right next to the Sanyo, it looked like the JVC had much finer detail and no blatantly obvious geometry issues. I'm going to watch a fair amount of standard cable on it so if you could provide some insight as to how well it displays non-HD material I would be most appreciative. Thanks!

Joe

Well, it may not be as bad as the Sanyo 30", but it still has geometry issues. Out of the box when watching 4:3 content the sides are not straight. I don't know geometry terms so I don't know how to describe it, but let's say it gets narrower towards the center. With a proper DVD that shows a grid and the limits of the overscan I adjusted some settings in the service menu such as EW (which solves the aforementioned problem to some extent) I was able to set the edges vertically straight, but something I hate about this set is that it bleeds parts of the image with stronger bright areas into the adjacent not so bright areas, and you see this on the edges when watching 4:3 content quite a lot. I was used to the Sanyo 32" LCD which has perfect geometry, and it's quite a let down. Also, in this set people seem to look fatter. Maybe it's my idea, but it does seem that way. And this is after adjusting all the values in the service menu to the perfect limits of the overscan, and making sure that every square in the grid has the same size.

In terms of image quality, it is decent, but the blacks are too exagerate sometimes, like when watching HD series the black areas don't have any shadow detail. Maybe it was intended that way by the editors of the show. If you turn up the brightness you get better shadow detail, but then when there's a dark scene it looks too bright. So it's pretty much the same as with the LCD TVs with their black levels problem. I love the image quality of LCDs but I can't stand the black levels when they show dark scenes. However, when watching HD content (preferably over the air as I do) the Sanyo 32" LCD looks much better than this JVC, or any other tube set in my opinion.

This TV set is progressive and as far as I can see it won't display interlaced material natively, either 480i or 1080i (it gets converted to 720p). When it comes to SD this set looks better than any LCD I had, that's for sure. If you can live with the geometry issues, then you might be happy with this set. But if you watch mostly SD cable I would just stick to a regular 4:3 set. Keep in mind that this set is only a 24" when watching 4:3. You can get a 4:3 27" for half the price.

thanks, I feel much better know. Will take a local trip to wally this week.

Thanks for the input Sebaz, I probably didn't notice the geometry problems because Wal-mart was showing widescreen HD content on it so there wasn't anything to give it away as blatantly as solid vertical bars would. As far as it being a $500ish entry into the HDTV world do you think it is of better quality than most sets in this category? I'm basically looking for something that will be fairly reliable and will hold me over until SED technology comes out at a reasonable price-point and then go all out on my home theatre. Thanks again, you're one of the few people it seems with experience on this set.

Joe

I would say in the $500 price range is the best HDTV. As long as you're willing to spend some time playing with the service menu to correct the worst geometry problems, and learn to live with the ones that can't be fixed. For example, I did a perfect 100 pixel diameter circle in Photoshop and then imported it into After Effects to animate it making it travel in perfectly straight lines at different points of the screen, vertically, horizontally and diagonally. I burned that onto a DVD and played it from my DVD player connected by component. it turns out that the circle changes dimensions depending on where it is. At the center it looks fine, but towards the corners it gets wider diagonally, as if the corner was sucking part of it. It's not horribly distorted, but it's still annoying to me. On LCDs you have other problems, but the geometry is perfect. I guess it all depends on what your A/V pet peeves are. Geometry distortion is one of mine, so chances are I'm not going to keep this set. But the common person shouldn't be deterred by my comments, to many this might be a perfectly good TV set. Most people are not as picky as me when it comes to image quality.

Do you have any info on accessing the service menu and what the different settings mean?

Do you have any info on accessing the service menu and what the different settings mean?

To access the service menu, you have to press the sleep button, make sure it displays "0", and then immediately press the display button and the video status button at the same time. If you don't press them exactly at the same time you might not get the service menu, so you'll have to try again until you get it right. One the service menu comes on, you'll see 4 items. Choose number 2 with the number key in your remote, and when the next menu comes up choose 1. Make sure the Tv is set to the aspect ratio that you want to use, most likely "Full", don't use panorama or anything else. Once you press 1 you'll get a bunch of S0xx items and next several more with the D0xx format. To navigate among them press the CH+ and CH- keys, and to modify the values press Vol- and Vol+. If you change a value, to write it to memory press the Muting key. If you want to go back one level press Back and if you want to leave the service menu altogether press Menu.

I don't know what all the settings mean, some I do but I don't have the time to explain them all here.But I'll save you some time and post here all the original values (which took me about an hour to type down to an Excel spreadsheet) that way if you mess up something you'll be able to go back. However, be careful, some of them can mess up your set and leave it with a black screen if you touch them, so if that happens to you always press the Vol- button to go back to the previous value.

Code Description Original value
S001 NULL ---
S002 NULL ---
S003 COLOR 031
S004 TINT 031
S005 DETAIL 031
S006 BRIGHT+ 0
S007 PICT+- 0
S008 NULL ---
S009 NULL ---
S010 NULL ---
S011 NULL ---
S012 NULL ---
S013 NULL ---
S014 NULL ---
S015 NULL ---
S016 R CUT+- 0
S017 G CUT+- 0
S018 B CUT+- 0
S019 R DRV+- 0
S020 B DRV+- 0
S021 COL AXIS 002
S022 CB OFS 021
S023 CR OFS 032
S024 SYSTEM 003
S025 SHP F0 001
S026 SHP F1 001
S027 LTI LEV 002
S028 LTI MODE 002
S029 DPIC LEV 003
S030 DC TRAN 001
S031 CTI LEV 001
S032 CTI MODE 000
S033 DCOL 000
S034 ABL MODE 002
S035 GAMMA 002
S036 GAMMA_L 001
S037 SUB BRI 048
S038 SUB CONT 008
S039 WB SW 000
S040 SHP CD 002
S041 CD OFF 000
S042 VM LEV 003
S043 VM DLY 002
S044 VM COR 002
S045 VM F0 000
S046 VM LMT 003
S047 Y OFFSET 007
S048 PRE OVER 000
S049 AGING W 000
S050 AGING B 000
S051 BLK BTM 000
S052 PLMT LEV 000
S053 G DRIVE 031
S054 LRGB2 LV 008
S055 P ABL 001
S056 ABL TH 015
S057 S ABL 002
S058 AKBOFF 001
S059 BLK OFF 000
S060 VMOFF DE 0
D001 V SIZE 046
D002 NULL
D003 EW 028
D004 NULL
D005 H SIZE 044
D006 NULL
D007 V SCORE 003
D008 NULL
D009 V LIN 004
D010 NULL
D011 V CENT 029
D012 EW TRAP 025
D013 NULL
D014 BOT CORN 022
D015 NULL
D016 TOP CORN 031
D017 NULL
D018 V EHT 007
D019 H EHT 000
D020 H CENT 033
D021 NULL
D022 BOW 032
D023 NULL
D024 PARALLEL 029
D025 NULL
D026 EW DC 000
D027 PIN COMP 000
D028 BOT UCP 000
D029 NULL
D030 TOP UCP 000
D031 NULL
D032 BOT UCG 000
D033 NULL
D034 TOP UCG 000
D035 NULL
D036 UC POL 000
D037 NULL
D038 SYNC PH 000
D039 AFC MODE 003
D040 AFC EHT 000
D041 HBLK SW 000
D042 L BLK 063
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D044 CLP PH 000
D045 CLP SHFT 001
D046 CLP GATE 000
D047 V ASP 003
D048 ASP SW 000
D049 ZOOM SW 000
D050 JMP SW 000
D051 V SCROLL 035
D052 BOT VLIN 000
D053 NULL
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D055 NULL
D056 VSW0 DCH 000
D057 VSW0 000
D058 VSW1 DC 000
D059 VSW0 AMP 000
D060 VSW1 AMP 000
D061 MPPR DC 000
D062 MPPR AMP 000
D063 HCPR DC 000
D064 HCPR PH 000
D065 HCPR AMP 000
D066 VDRV SW 000
D067 VBLK SW 001
D068 BOT BLK 000
D069 TOP BLK 005
D070 RST SW 000
D071 AKBTIM 000
F001 DTVM RST 001

Saw the JVC-AV30W777 in WM today. It was on and next to the 30" Sanyo. Looked better. Reminds me of the 30" Philips WM used to sell. Hmmmm?

I just got back from wallyworld, ny they don't have it yet.The sale guy check the system non available yet. what happening. Is it out there yet. I dont think is ever been available. Vaporware, just wannabe bloggers in here. please show us some pics of your new jvc av-30w777. jvc saying not available yet.

Coming from someone that actually works in the wally world electronics dept... I can say, yes my store has them, but they're sitting in the bins. Never have been on the floor... have no idea when they actually will or if they ever will. Your best chances are to ask someone competent to go check the bins to see if they have it in stock.

thanks,

Thanks to all in this thread; I put the JVC30-777 on layaway for Xmas. I paid 526.00 at the Walmart Supercenter here in Spartanburg,SC. I have an Ent. Cabinet that will hold 33.75" in the width direction. My other choices were the Samsung TXS-27 or 30 tv. The slimfits do have excellent ATSC/OTA tuners. I get my tv channels OTA from the Greenville/Spartanburg/Ashville and also Charlotte,NC. Can anyone give OTA results? The wait is already a pain, but i'm trying to get through the holidays plastic-free. I enjoy reading all the useful info here at the AVS forum and the High-Def forum. Thanks again.

I bought this TV from Walmart about week ago in Charleston, SC. This is my first HDTV experience so I'm no expert. So far I am pleased as punch with the purchase. The price fit right into the budget I wanted to work with as well the room size and cabinet space I have available. I looked at all the other entry level 30" HDTV (Thanx info from this site) and I think I made the right choice.

Picture---I'm not gonna try to dazzle you with any technical terms (Not that I know any :) )...I watched "Steve Austin, Snake Master" on Discovery HD the other night before bed and spent all "Jumping" away from snakes. (Nuff said)

Sound--I'm blown away by the sound just as much as picture.

I haven't made any adjustments yet. I have noticed a slight bowing at the top on 4.3 aspect, but I changed the border to the "light" option on my cable box and now find less distracting. The "Tinker Man" in me really wants to get into the Service Menu to see I can "make better", but a cooler head prevails. So far it ain't broken, so why to fix it.

just stop it! I am so sick of all this bullshit lies and deceptions. called jvc and email and quest what, not available yet. then all this limited sighting, sound like the x-files . So you expect me to go on this egg hunt voyage to find this model. do me a favor show us some picks. then we will know for sure its out there.


If you ask me Julio, and that is, just if you ask..... I'd say they played your for a fool Julio :eek:

Yep, these TVs are out and I have some for sale. I am selling them for $500+actual UPS shipping out of Canton, Ohio. Local pick-up is fine also. I may be able to deliver a short distance for a fee. These things seem really heavy for their size. It has a great picture for the price, especially hooked up to an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player.

No pictuers yet, but I have 5 left and don't know if I will be able to get more after I am out. They will probably go on Ebay, but I figured I would offer them to you guys at this price first. If anyone is interested, just send me an email.

Purchased the AV-30W777 today at WM in Eldersburg, MD. Last one there, and none on display. Went to 5 other WM"s before I found it.

Almost walked right by it, since the box is mostly plain, compared to other OEMs. Doesn't even say HDTV on the box; reads "30-inch Widescreen Television", the JVC and I'Art logos, and that's it. The clerk and I opened up the box, and looked at the manual just to make sure.

Won't have a HD source to hook-up to it until next week. I could, but don't know if I want to go through the trouble of re-activating a D****TV HD box, and turn right around and de-activate next week when I get the new MPEG4 D*****TV DVR.

But, I'll at least watch some upconverted DVD's on it through my Sony NS90V.

saw this at the local wally world, they are already clearenceing them for 426 at my local store

3 in the box and the display

saw it has 2 hdmi cables on it, now i know you can do dvi to hdmi cables and its the same thing, wondering if anyone has tried using this method to see if it works as a computer display or not, i really want a proper LCD in a large size but my budget is tight and this could be a consideration on that front if its usable as a computer monitor, im wanting something for my htpc

theres also that new sapphire hdmi enabled video card im considering, wondering if this set could be utilized with that, im afriad whatever I buy it will be hdmi only at this stage seeing that dvi is slowly dissapearing, so im probably getting that sapphire card

anyhow, just wondering or should i just keep look at lcds???

So I guess Wall-Marts are getting those in??? I haven't seen those yet, went to walmart today and only saw 30" Sanyo there for $478. Might other walmart have these around the town or they're all the same?

Beware of some bogus thread information from our fellow members. Jvc 30W777 is not available anywhere in the united states. This model was discontinued before it was release. originally best buy had it listed on there website, but it was taken down because it was discontinued. Best buy said they will not carry it because it was discontinued. There were several members in this thread who were dishonest with there information. Beware of liars that lies in this thread.

Beware of some bogus thread information from our fellow members. Jvc 30W777 is not available anywhere in the united states. This model was discontinued before it was release. originally best buy had it listed on there website, but it was taken down because it was discontinued. Best buy said they will not carry it because it was discontinued. There were several members in this thread who were dishonest with there information. Beware of liars that lies in this thread.
Julio I see those for sale online! I just don't see them at Walmart for that kind of cheap price! I can buy one right now for $599 online!

I believe the TV exists however it's funny that nobody will post a picture to prove it.

I believe the TV exists however it's funny that nobody will post a picture to prove it.

Well, you got a point there, but ask yourself, why would anyone take the time and effort to take and post a picture just to prove to some mentally disturbed individual that the TV set actually exists and some Walmarts in the country sell it? I have better things to do with my time.

For your information, I was at walmart in union nj , visiting my uncle. We drove to walmart just to shop around and to see what they have. Guest what, sanyo 30 hdtv widescreen on sale, not the jvc everyone was talking about. Less than 500 dollars. I ask the sale guy if they carried the jvc widescreen 30 av777. Nope never , no store in there system carry it. just the sanyo widescreen hdtv. now if someone in this thread said they saw it or brought it why won't they be albe to show it in this thread. Cell phone pic ect. Because it doesn't exit, vaporware. Walmart does not carry jvc televison crt tube ok. sanyo ok. How difficult it is to take a pic and upload into this thread, not so. Checked on line no one has it on stock or available . out of stock. so where is it, someone in here must have one. so where did you get it.

For your information, I was at walmart in union nj , visiting my uncle. We drove to walmart just to shop around and to see what they have. Guest what, sanyo 30 hdtv widescreen on sale, not the jvc everyone was talking about. Less than 500 dollars. I ask the sale guy if they carried the jvc widescreen 30 av777. Nope never , no store in there system carry it. just the sanyo widescreen hdtv. now if someone in this thread said they saw it or brought it why won't they be albe to show it in this thread. Cell phone pic ect. Because it doesn't exit, vaporware. Walmart does not carry jvc televison crt tube ok. sanyo ok. How difficult it is to take a pic and upload into this thread, not so. Checked on line no one has it on stock or available . out of stock. so where is it, someone in here must have one. so where did you get it.

Dude, take a chill pill. Not everyone on here is lying to you and laughing there @ss's off. Come on. I would have taken a picture if I actually had a digital camera on me when I went. The walmart in Tucson AZ at Ina and La'Cholla had it on sale for $526 for several months. Now they don't have it on display at all. my personal guess. They got a small batch in preparation for release, the model was discontinued and they sold off what they had in stock. No big whoop.

more freakin lies.

more freakin lies.

Not every single store has the same stock. I find it incredible that you are having difficulty believing this. I seen this tv over the past weekend. Since you go to NJ, drive a little further to the Walmart in Delaware County, PA. Its in there.

Post a damn pic and the discussion will be over !!!!

My God there are some immature and paranoid people in this thread. Hey Julio, I for one don't appreciate being called a liar by some prick who doesn't have his facts straight. If you're so sure that we're all full of ****, why don't you be me $20 payable via Paypal that I can't produce a picture of this thing by the end of the day? I'm heading up to Walmart this afternoon and would love to SYTFU.

Ok, this is to restore the credibility of all of those posting their opinions on this monitor and to put an end to Julio's lies. I think you owe everyone on this thread an appology for accusing honest people of lying, and spreading your disinformation as if it were fact. Having said that...

http://www.mightyjoeco.com/tv.jpg

http://www.mightyjoeco.com/tv2.jpg

They even had one in a box right under the display which I got pictures of but they were blurry. Again, Julio, STFU...

These picks must be fake, probably from photoshop. walmart continues to confirm status as not in stock or unavailable.

I bought this tv a few weeks ago as a floor model from Walmart for $420 (20% off) in Manhattan Kansas. It was the only av30w777 that they had and it wasn't even in their computer system. They didn't have the box, but they had the remote, manual, and warranty card in a separate bag. Despite its size, the tv looks and works great. I also run a computer with a radeon 9500 through a DVI->HDMI cable and it also looks very good (compared to S-Video or VGA).

Julio, you are clearly a troll and I suggest people ignore his comments and continue forth with the discussion on this television. I'm convinced at this point that he is either here just to rile everyone up or retarded to some degree. No amount of evidence will make him change his tune so the best course of action is to accept the fact that this television does exist, ableit not everywhere, and ignore anything posted by Julio.

Suprised nobody mentioned the incorrect 720p max display. Anyway; what's the big deal? They have this TV and even Sony 50"A200's at the WM in Pas., MS. Different stores carry different lines. WM is pushing HDTV hard.

Suprised nobody mentioned the incorrect 720p max display. Anyway; what's the big deal? They have this TV and even Sony 50"A200's at the WM in Pas., MS. Different stores carry different lines. WM is pushing HDTV hard.


WM has done that to all 3 crt hdtv's it owns in Tucson. The Phillips and Sanyo" as well are listed as 720p instead of 1080i. Anyways. All I have to say is wow, Julio, you are either a troll or just plain stubborn on this one!!!!! I mean, my god, you call for pictures and then cry "fake!!!!!". Good lord, get a life.

Suprised nobody mentioned the incorrect 720p max display. Anyway; what's the big deal? They have this TV and even Sony 50"A200's at the WM in Pas., MS. Different stores carry different lines. WM is pushing HDTV hard.

I'm pretty sure it does display at 720p. When clicking the display button on different HD channels, some say 1080i (like CBS) while others say 720p (like ABC). The HDMI inputs, such as my computer, also say 720p. The TV does, however, cut about an inch off each side for true widescreen television programs (which really isn't a big deal to me), and there is some morphing on both sides when watching programs in panorama mode. I also can't access the service screen to adjust this by setting the sleep to 0 and then pressing display+video status. Any other ideas for accessing the menu?

I got tired of waiting for the new model (777) to show up in my area (Madison Wis.) so I bought one of last years model AV-30W776 from a distributor that my company deals with. It was the last one that they had and they wanted to get rid of it so I got a great deal, or so I thought. What a mistake!

After having it on for an hour or so the picture tube shut down. It still had power but no picture. I called the distributor the next day intending to send it back but they refused saying that it was JVC's policy that I have it repaired instead. The only way they could take it back was if it was "unrepairable". So under protest I took it to one of the authorized repair centers in my area. After 8 days they called to say that they had found a cold solder connection and it was now repaired. So I hauled it home, lugged it all the way upstairs and lifted it back into the armoire. It was on for about 10 minutes when the screen went black again. At this point my patience was starting to wear a little thin. I called the distributor again. They said that if the repair center provided them with some type of documentation that the tv was unrepairable they could take it back. The repair center refused to write something that may or may not be true without knowing exactly what the problem was so my only option was to take it back to them again. It has now been another 10 days with no word from the repair center. After another "conversation" with the distributor they finally agreed to take it back if it does not get repaired this time. During all of this I e-mailed JVC to see if they would help. Even though the web site says that they will get back to you within 5 days it's been about 9 days with no reply.

No doubt I bought a lemon and not all JVC tv's are bad, but I learned a couple of valuable lessons. First of all make sure you understand what the return policy is of the company you are buying from and secondly that a great deal may not be that great after all. I wished that my local WM had the new models in stock because if I had purchased it from them I could have taken it back.

P.S. The picture did look great while it lasted>

Ok, everyone, let's let Julio in on the joke. The JVC 777 does not exist. It was fun pulling the wool over his eyes for the last month, though, eh? :D :D

Sorry for the poor photoshop job, julio. You really caught me!

I've had a JVC AV-30W585 for two years, which is an earlier version of the 777. Everything in its manual, on the store displays and on JVC's website, indicated that it converted everything to a 1080i display. However, when I directly contacted JVC's technical information dept. by E-Mail, they replied that my information was incorrect and that my set displayed everything at 720p.

The 585 puts on a beautiful picture and does an exceptional job with standard-definition sources. A friend has an older Toshiba IDTV, which converts everything to a 480p display. Its picture looks better than that of any other SD set I had seen, but the 585 equals it with SD programs. I have a highgrade 24-inch SD monitor for editing footage from my DV camcorder and its picture is very good. But, the way the 585 improves this DV playback even more, makes me think I may actually be seeing a progressive display. If it does in fact use a 720p display, it would not be surprising that the newer JVC 30-inch CRT models, like the 777, also use 720p.

There seems to be a universal ambiguity in the way the specifications of all TV brands are described. Since consumer CRT sets and most other types of reasonably-priced HDTVs don't have enough refinement in their screens to actually
resolve more than around 630 to 768 scanning lines anyway, using a 720p display will probably give a better image than one that uses 1080i. On these sets, the top 312 to 450 scanning lines of a 1080i program source will be lost on the screens, as their dot-pitches are too large. A computer CRT monitor may have a much finer dot-pitch of around .22 to .28 millimeter, but these HDTV CRTs have dot-pitches of around .64 to .84 millimeter.

Its possible that the HDTV manufacturers are playing a numbers game in their product descriptions. Having a full "1080-line" display capability has become a buzz-word in promoting HD sets. However, if a 720p display gives a better-looking picture, than a 1080i set could do, with the resolution limits of lower-cost screens, this causes a dilemna. So, why not describe it with the specification numbers that sound best, but actually build it to have the specifications that give the best pictures, on sets in this price range?

Don't encourage him, Doc :p

Thanks for the pic mighty joe

bunch of fools! you guys don't see it. fake adobe photo enhance fake pic. this will be my last thread concerning this topic. sony going to introduce brand new widescreen hdtv crt tube pretty soon with a lower price. jvc quality sucks. I forgot to take my zoloft meds lately but will start taking them tomorrow.

bunch of fools! you guys don't see it. fake adobe photo enhance fake pic. this will be my last thread concerning this topic. sony going to introduce brand new widescreen hdtv crt tube pretty soon with a lower price. jvc quality sucks. I forgot to take my zoloft meds lately but will start taking them tomorrow.


Yes, please take the meds, the results of not taking them are obvious :rolleyes:

OK, for starters, I know nothing about TVs. The extent of my knowledge is that mine died on Tuesday, and my husband and I bought a new one today at WalMart. I haven't checked through all WalMart computers to see where else they sell this television. I have absolutely no reason to go out of my way to even post, let alone propogate a sinister lie about a stupid television set. I'm not going to post a picture of my new TV set because I feel that that's pretty ridiculous, especially since the accuser then went on to say the pic was a fake. Sorry Julio, my picture would look identical to the previous one posted, and I don't own photo editting software, or if I did, I don't know how to use it. So, I'm stupid, but I'm not a liar. And my only comment is that if you really think that all of these people have gone to all these lengths to mislead you and you alone (you're the only one who seems to have a problem with this), then you have an ego problem.

My brother WAS (until about 4 months ago) a computer maintenance guy for WalMart in Northern Florida (no, he wasn't fired--he moved on after being with WalMart for 10 years to maintain computers for his local school district) Essentially, it was his job to back up and troubleshoot the inventory database for his area. HIS AREA included about 100 stores. HIS area did not carry the same inventory as other areas. He said this repeatedly, and complained about it like it was a problem for WalMart. People on the West Coast obviously have different buying habits than people somewhere else. I can go to my WalMart and they have different clothes than the WalMart 40 miles down the road. He even bought his own TV at a WalMart out of his area because his area did not have the one he wanted.

So, I've called him on this, and his statement was basically that unless you're in upper management in WalMart (he didn't think that even store managers had access to the nationwide inventory database), you can't even access inventory outside of your area. Of course, he hasnt been there for 4 months, and while he doubted it, there could have been a major change in software for Wal Mart in that time.

I bought the JVC in question at my WalMart in Texas this morning for $526. I called the JVC customer service number to do the warranty registration, just because I wanted to know what Julio was talking about , and the very nice woman said that yes this television has been on sale at selected locations since February, 2006. However, I didn't question anything else about parts or anything because---as I said, I'm rather stupid when it comes to this stuff.

I hope this clears up the confusion.

Yes the tv does exist, and it will display a 480p/720p/1080i signal through its 2 component or 2 hdmi inputs. I have an Xbox 360 currently on set 1080i and it looks no different than 720p as far as I can tell in games. However i think that it does look better in the menu's making me believe that it does scale everything 1080i. I bought it at my local walmart for $526 the first week of September, they had 3 in stock at the time. It is a beautiful picture for that price, and it upconverts SD up very nicely. DVDs in my upconverting player look very good, whether I play them at 480p or 1080i. The colors and sharpness definately beat an SD tube. Now I only wish I was at home so I could get some HD comcast on it. OTA sucks in rural connecticut :-)

Cell phone Pics:
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/images/tv/tv1.jpg
Xbox 360 @ 1080i
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/images/tv/tv2.jpg
Xbox 360 @720p
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/images/tv/tv3.jpg
PBS HD over the air @ 1080i
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/images/tv/tv4.jpg
The manual which confirm's its existence..

I think you need to make some apologize Julio...

This was his apology. He attempted and failed miserably at being humorous instead of coming out and apologizing.

bunch of fools! you guys don't see it. fake adobe photo enhance fake pic. this will be my last thread concerning this topic. sony going to introduce brand new widescreen hdtv crt tube pretty soon with a lower price. jvc quality sucks. I forgot to take my zoloft meds lately but will start taking them tomorrow.

How close to Wisconsin has anyone spotted the AV-30W777? I' am still interested in getting one but the WM's in my area (Madison) still do not have them.

I've actually had this model (av-30w777) since the beginning of August, whenever I saw it at a local Walmart and bought it immediately due to the great deal (I think). I'm getting married at the end of December, and this television is for the new place, so the box will not even be opened until then. So the problem is that I am unable to view the quality of this set until almost 2 months from now.

On another visit to Walmart a few days ago, I noticed that they finally had a display set up for this television, complete with an upconverting dvd player. I decided to check out the quality by playing the dvd. I played it in WS format, and noticed that the edges seemed a bit stretched (I don't know any proper terminology for this stuff). The center seemed fine, but the left and right edges seemed to stretch the picture a bit. I think this was discussed on the last page, though I'm not certain if this is the same issue. Is this something to be concerned about? It really will be a bit of an annoyance if it can not be fixed, but for the price, I'll deal with it. I'm just wondering if this should also be an issue with my television, or if this can be fixed by adjusting the settings.

This next question just deals with how uninformed I am about these issues. I noticed that even though it is a WS television, and I played the dvd in WS format, it still had the black bars. I guess that I was just under the impression that since it was a WS television, this wouldn't happen. I've got no problem with it. I'm just wondering if this is normal for all programs/dvds in WS format.

And finally...(sorry for the extremely long post)
Is the Philips 30" a better deal? It's the same price as the JVC 30" at Walmart, but the JVC looked better to me. But I also know absolutely nothing about HDTVs. Did I make the right decision?

Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can help! I really appreciate it a lot!

Danforth, where are you located? I have been waiting for the 777 models to show up in my area for a while now.

Also I don't know what WM's return policy is but if you read one of my earlier post's on this thread about all of the problems I had with a brand new 776 model you might want to check. They probably won't believe that you first turned it on 4- 5 months after you bought it.

In spite of the problems I had with the 776 model tv I bought I think JVC still makes the best 30" crt right now.

Jeff,

I got mine in Charleston, WV. If you would like me to get you the UPC or Walmart Number from it, I can. Then you should be able to call the Walmarts near you to see if it's showing up in their systems.

Can I post prices on here (I thought that I read somewhere that I couldn't)? If not, then let me know and I'll delete this. This set was actually put on Clearance and marked down to $480 last time I checked. It's only $526 regularly priced, but $480 makes it sound even better.

As for returning it: I purchased a 2 year warranty along with it, so it should be no problem if something is wrong.

Danforth,

Someone posted a WM SKU number for the new model a few months back. I gave the number to someone I know that works at one of the WM's in my area and it didn't show up at all in their system.

It's apparent to me that JVC is only making a limited number of the new models because they are only showing up at some WM's around the country and nowhere else. Several people have said that they were able to buy the sets on clearance also which makes me wonder if JVC has now stopped making them completely.

Oh well W.V. would be a little far for me to drive from Southern Wis. to buy one. If they don't show up in my area soon I might have to look for something else.

Jeff,

How far are you from the Beloit Walmart? They are showing 4 sets in stock (1 would probably be the display). If it isn't too far, you might want to check with them.

Good luck!

Danforth,

Beloit is about 50 miles away from me, I will have to give them a call. Maybe the 777's are finally starting to show up in Wis. How did you find out what a store had so far from you? Why don't you give me the SKU number that you have so I can re-check with some of the closer stores. Thanks for your help.

Jeff

Jeff, I'm not sure of the SKU # -- is this another term for UPC #? If so, then I can give that to you, as that is all I have. As for how I found stores in your area that carry this set, my dad works at Walmart. I called and had him to do a search through their computer system for stores with this set in stock in your area (I saw that you were from Madison a couple pages back). There were only 3 stores that showed up: Portage, Beaver Dam, and Beloit. Portage and Beaver Dam only show 1 in stock, which I'm assuming is the display set. Beloit showed 4, which should mean 3 in the box and 1 display. It is possible that the other two stores didn't set up a display for this set, in which case they would have 1 new, in the box. Those were the only 3 stores within a 50 mile radius of Madison, though. All others showed 0 in stock. But I can still get you the UPC # if you want it, or the SKU # if you can tell me where to find it on the box.

I hope this helps.

And good luck getting one. If you find one, let me know how it is since I won't be able to see it for another couple of months.

The SKU number is the WM inventory number. It should be on your receipt. I'm not sure if it is the same as the UPC code number or not.

I called the WM in Beloit yesterday. The gal I spoke with checked inventory and said that they only had 32" JVC's (SD CRT or LCD?) in the back warehouse. I asked if they had any on order and she put me on hold to ask the dept. mgr. The dept. mgr. told her that they did not stock the 30" set.

Of course you can never be sure if the person on the phone is really checking anything or not. Beaver Dam and Portage are about the same distance from me so I will check with them also.

That's really strange. Two different products shouldn't carry the same UPC number. He did a search by the UPC number, and it showed up in the system at those stores. As far as I know, they wouldn't discontinue the 30" and then give the UPC number to their 32" set. I could be wrong though. Anyway, I apologize for giving you incorrect information. Just telling you what the computer shows.

As far as the SKU number...I see the UPC number and the TC number (??) on my receipt. Nothing else. Someone listed the SKU as 593198 in this thread, but I don't see that number anywhere on my receipt. The UPC is 0 4683802432 0 -- usually they will only need the middle 10 digits and not the first and last. Sometimes it won't even show up in the system if you search with the first and/or last number(s) included.

Hopefully that helps in some way. Good luck!

I called the WM's in Portage and Beaver Dam. The person I spoke with in Portage said that they didn't carry JVC at all. The person I talked to in Beaver Dam put me on hold to check then came back and said yes they did have at least one of the 777's in stock. I couldn't believe it at first but she confirmed that the model number was correct, etc.

So now I have a huge decision to make. Because of all the problems I had with the 776 and having all but given up on ever seeing the new model in my area I started getting myself psyched up to get a 32" LCD flat panel instead. When I first started looking at the JVC 30" crt's there was a much larger difference in price between them and 32" lcd's, not anymore. In fact I found out that BB is going to be selling a Westinghouse that I have been looking at on black Friday for less than what the JVC costs. I know about all the pros and cons of both technologies and the last thing I want to do is start another crt vrs. lcd debate but that's what is going on in my head right now.

Danforth thanks for all the work you did.

No problem at all. Just trying to help out a bit. I've been helped out many a time on forums.

As for the Westinghouse..Do you really think that price is real? There have been no official ads or anything, right? I'm just a bit skeptical. But I've actually been considering trying to get that one as well (if that's true), since I can return the JVC for a full refund if I find something better. CC supposedly has a 32" LCD for a really good price that day as well.

I've never been out on black Friday before, though. I'm a little worried, as I've seen plenty of videos of the mayhem. Do you think BB will be pretty bad? I know I live in a completely different area, so it's sure to be somewhat different. But since I already have the JVC, I'll probably just skip trying to get it if there are going to be fights for it, people lined up for hours before the store opens, etc. Is BB usually like this, or does this mainly happen at Walmart and places such as that?

The Westinghouse that BB is selling on black Fri. is a new model W3213. If you go to BB's web site and do a search for part # 8120366 you can see a picture and specs. It actually has better specs than the 32w6 that has gotten pretty good reviews. Check out the LCD/plasma forum there are a couple of threads about it.

I have no doubt that people will be lined up well before BB opens at 5am. Some may even camp out overnight. There are a lot of crazy people out there. If I go it will be much later in the morning and of course with my luck they will be out of the Westys by then. The fine print on there black Fri. ad says that each store will have a minimum of 15 units. They will probably sell 15 in the first 1/2 hour. I wonder if they will give rain checks?

I also plan on calling the WM in Beaver Dam about the same time to see if they have marked down the JVC's by then. Still haven't made up my mind.

$405 + tax at my local wal-mart. Pretty nice TV so far. Just got done watching 'Over the Hedge' with the wife. Really nice. What's with the manually mentioning that the TV cannot display signals from a computer. I have my Personal Cinema Nvidia card set to 720p with some adjustments, and it works great. I want to try to get a DVI -> HDMI cable next, and give that a shot.

Does this model have digital optical output? Some sites say it does, others say it doesn't. Thanks.

And for those who have it, are you impressed? It fits right in my budget, and with dual HDMI inputs, it's tempting as hell. I'm just nervous going with JVC instead of Sony or something.

And a lot of you seem to have gotten it for around $500, whereas right now I only see it online at buy.com for $608. Is it anywhere else?

Optical output? Anyone?

bornyank1, sorry, but I can't answer your question. I have yet to open the box. Just letting you know that I didn't ignore you, though.


I have another question though. I really don't know much about any of this stuff. I assume that I will be watching many SD programs. Is it true that this makes the picture more like a 24" or so rather than a 30"?

I'm really trying to decide between this television (which seems incredible to me), or a 32" LCD. The only 2 problems that I'm worried about with this CRT are geometry issues and screen size. This is for my living room, so if it ends up showing up as a 24", that would seem a bit small.

Any help is much appreciated!

Well any widescreen TV would end up looking smaller when viewing SD, because the sides will be cut off (unless you stretch it, and then it's just kind of distorted). But I don't know why it would look smaller than any other widescreen TV. The 32 inch LCD might look a little bigger because of the extra 2 inches it has to begin with, but thats about it I guess.

The JVC has an HD tuner though, so you can get an antenna and pull in some free HD programming. This TV seems great to me, too...it has every features I was looking for and more. I'm just worried that I'll get it out of the box and it just won't look that good compared to a high-end set.

Thanks for the response.

We've broken down and are about to get it out of the box to try it for a few minutes, so that if we don't like what we see, we don't miss out on the Black Friday deals.

I really don't know anything about this stuff, but if you tell me what to look for (optical output), then I'll tell you what I find.

Great, let me know what you think. Hook it up to some high def sources if you have some available and see how it looks. Personally, I won't be watching much SD on it, so I care more about how it looks with OTA HD, Xbox 360, and HD-DVD. See if it has any geometry issues, and how the PQ is. THe optical output is like a little circular female connector, don't know how to describe it. It would probably be labeled.

Sorry for the long post..

Well from what I've heard, all CRTs will have some geometry issues (and I very well could have been misinformed, as I know very little about the subject), so this is no exception. I tweaked with the settings for a very long time to try and get the best picture. Being that this was my first HD experience, I was extremely impressed with how nice the picture was. The sound was also very nice. The only HD source I had available was my 360 (with GOW), which I hooked up for a bit. Absolutely wonderful.

I didn't get your message in time, so I didn't really know what to look for. I didn't mess around with the different inputs/outputs much at all, but I didn't see anything like that on the back. But please don't let this influence your decision, as there very well could have been one. I'd look again, but it's back in the box and ready to go back.

In the end, the geometry issues were too much. It wasn't bad at all, and probably wouldn't bother many people. I get crazy whenever it comes to things such as this, though. Any stretching or anything of that sort would drive me insane if I had to put up with it at all. I'm willing to give up some picture quality for a set (LCD) that would have no geometry issues.

If you can deal with the minor geometry issues, then it seems like a wonderful television to me. But again, I have very little experience with this.

I'm going to return this, as I just purchased an LCD as part of Circuit City's Thanksgiving Day special (same as the Black Friday special -- I was so relieved to see that they offered it online as well, so I don't have to brave the crowds Friday morning).

Sorry that I couldn't be of more help. Good luck with whatever decision you make though.

What exactly bothered you? Was there line curving and stuff? If the picture looked great with GOW, I might try it and hope to get a better set geometry-wise.

Like I said, I'm no expert on this stuff; not even close.

The best description that I can come up with is that it seemed to stretch the picture on both sides. I messed with the settings for quite a while, and couldn't fix it completely. I was able to minimize it quite a bit, but any stretching at all would drive me insane.

And yes, GOW looked great, but also had a very little amount of stretching on the sides.

It might have just been my set (and a few others), because most people report not even being able to notice these issues with this set. A couple pages back in this thread, though, someone else was describing something similar to what I'm describing with this set. It probably just bothers some more than others.

Was this stretching happening with standard cable, or other things? If it was just standard cable, I don't really care, I won't be watching that much on it. You're not talking about the normal stretching when watching 4:3 SDTV on a 16:9 screen, right? That'll happen with any set.

No, mine was stretching while playing GOW. I made sure that all of the settings were correct on the 360 and the tv.

I've never seen any JVC products in my local Wal-Mart's (The Northeast) & I'm very interested in this JVC so what should I "EXACTLY" ask them to look up in their coputers so maybe I can have them order one for me? Thanks.

Well, I'm sorry that I can't help you, but I'm interested in the same question. I've never seen the TV in a store, and I'd like to hear where the posters who found it in Walmart for under $500 had success.

My local Walmart has 2 in the box under a line of LCD's on display. I ask a associte about the JVC and he told me they did not have any. I directed him to the 2 boxes and when we got there he said that was part a special promotion. They were very busy It being Saturday morning after BF so I just passed it up and decided to wait till a later time to talk to someone else. Also they did not have one on display but they did have the Sanyo 30" WS and Sanyo 32" 4:3 side by side and the PQ on the 30" WS was much better. I am hoping to get the lower price on the JVC. I think it would be well worth the price.

What was the price on the ones you saw?

you know we are not to give pricing on this forum, but the highest price listed in this thread was labeled on the box

Update

I went over to Wally World and there was only one women in electronics. Asked about the JVC 30" and she hade to go to the sporting goods area to get a scanner. After she scanned it the price on the box was on the scanner. She informed me that some of the stores have different pricing and closeout specials. Guess I will have to keep checking back for the FALLING PRICES.

Apparently I am such a newb that I sign up and then never post again... Well, trying to be better:

Yes, the TV has Digital Optical out on the back, and it works (watched the 1 1080i channel I get on it in Dolby Digital).

Just in case there is some question:

Yes, 2 HDMI ports.
2 Component
(can't remember the Svideo and composite, but some are shared... all in all 4 analog and 2 digital inputs)
720p IMO looks the best on the set, and would put a good guess it is the native res.
I have my PC hooked up via component, but 720p and 1080i overscan TONS. I had to adjust to something more like 680 lines by whatever wide (will post later with what my config is).
I don't have anything w/ HDMI, perhaps I should woot today woot
I've watched /some/ HDTV on it, just as my 26 channel basic cable has 2 1080i channels and a buncha 480i w/ Digital audio. Apparently they don't think basic cable subscribers have digital tuners, or they want me to have ESPN classic :-).

Has anyone looked into the back of the JVC, to see who made the tube? I would really like to know.

Can Anyone Tell Me If My Av-30w585 Is Lcd Or Plasma? Is D.i.s.t The Same As Lcd Or Plasma ? Do I Need A S Video Cable To Make The Hd Channels Work Better By The Way I Live In Eastern Ontario,canada. Friend20013

When They Sent Me My Jvc Iart Av-30w585 To Rent To Own They Sent Me The Wrong Remote N Manual They Sent The Ones For The Av-30w777. So Those Pictures Were Not Fake If I Received The Same Ones In Ontario,canada.

If there's any other info you guys can provide on this model, I'd appreciate it.

JVC gets it's knocks but for reg tube tv's, they fully beat Sony in my opinon.