Doubtful. I think it's more of trying to winnow the cast down (my bet is Sucre is next) so that they don't have to keep bouncing around subplots that aren't as interesting to the audience as the main plot thread involving Mike and Linc. Additionally, having regular characters from last season get caught or killed helps keep the tension and sense of danger cranked up. That's become a pretty standard device these days in these sorts of "thriller" type shows.

I think T-bag will get caught/killed next. That would pretty much get rid of the truly "bad" guys. The rest of the escapees were either low-level criminals who caught a bad break (Tweener) or wrongly imprisoned (Michael and C-Note).

Now that I think about it, whatever happened to Haywire? They've had three (?) new episodes and haven't shown him once.

I think T-bag will get caught/killed next. That would pretty much get rid of the truly "bad" guys. The rest of the escapees were either low-level criminals who caught a bad break (Tweener) or wrongly imprisoned (Michael and C-Note).
I hope not, Robert Knepper is too good an actor not to have him in the show, can you name a more evil, disgusting bad guy on TV right now? The guy is very good at his craft and I'd hate to see him go.

I hope not, Robert Knepper is too good an actor not to have him in the show, can you name a more evil, disgusting bad guy on TV right now? The guy is very good at his craft and I'd hate to see him go.


Yeah, he's entertaining...

I hope Michael finds out about the 2 men that Tbag has killed, as well as the girl he nearly molested since he got out...that's all on Michael for helping him get out. That should tear him up a bit.

I'm hoping the brothers take him out of circulation permanently...

I didn't buy Abruzzi falling for the trap that easily.
And since when is a federally protected witness in a high profile mob case not heavily guarded by US Marshalls at his motel...

I hope not, Robert Knepper is too good an actor not to have him in the show, can you name a more evil, disgusting bad guy on TV right now? The guy is very good at his craft and I'd hate to see him go.

He's not going anywhere. You're safe...for now. :)

There's another one going soon, but it's not T-Bag. :D

Chris, how have you seen yet-to-be-aired episodes...? And there will be another death next week? :eek:

BTW, I'm really liking the show this season, even with the unbelievable parts (loved your post KSP :D). I couldn't get into that much last season... I think I started actually "watching" full eps. and trying to follow things only in the last episodes leading up to the escape/finale.

See. Told ya so. ;)

I hope not, Robert Knepper is too good an actor not to have him in the show, can you name a more evil, disgusting bad guy on TV right now? The guy is very good at his craft and I'd hate to see him go.

Yep, did you see the look on his face as he looked at the sky just before getting into the back seat of the samaritan's car. He was in a rapture. Thank you Jesus for bringing this little girl into my realm just at the time of my dispair. Knepper is a work of art.

Doubtful. I think it's more of trying to winnow the cast down (my bet is Sucre is next) so that they don't have to keep bouncing around subplots that aren't as interesting to the audience as the main plot thread involving Mike and Linc. Additionally, having regular characters from last season get caught or killed helps keep the tension and sense of danger cranked up. That's become a pretty standard device these days in these sorts of "thriller" type shows.

You are incorrect sir. Sucre is not next.

What was your wager? I could use the money. :)

Now that I think about it, whatever happened to Haywire? They've had three (?) new episodes and haven't shown him once.

You will see him shortly. He's still around waiting patiently.

Mahone will be back full-throttle next week. He's angry. Couldn't ya tell?

I'm beginning to see a pattern here from Chris Rein. He seems to know something about what is coming up. While this is not a Clue game, spoilers could be made out of telling who isn't going to go soon. Please, for the sake of all of us who enjoy the spontaneity of the show, stop dropping hints.

You are incorrect sir. Sucre is not next.

What was your wager? I could use the money. :)

Allright Chris, you're clearly getting advance looks at this show. Time to give it up and come clean. How are you doing it? Critics' screener copies? Buddy at a post-production house?

And one thing else is clear: you've crossed the line into spoiler territory. Some folks around here tend not to look too kindly at that sort of posting...

In response to post #240.

I don't think all of the inmates were in the room when DB Cooper told Michael about the money. I thought only the fat kid was in the room.

And just for my own piece of mind.........who is the file that they keep looking at? I think I missed that part somewhere.

Yep, did you see the look on his face as he looked at the sky just before getting into the back seat of the samaritan's car. He was in a rapture. Thank you Jesus for bringing this little girl into my realm just at the time of my dispair. Knepper is a work of art.

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He chews the scenery with relish, I enjoy his part a great deal. It's even more enjoyable when I think about how different this character is from the one he portrayed on Carnivale. He's good!

WRT his hand reattachment, as implausible as it has been, I'd love to see the writers employ it as a story device one more time, having him caught by the police and handcuffed, and having to rip the dead hand from his arm to make his escape. I know it's cornball, but it would be a fitting coup de grace for that element of the story.

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And just for my own piece of mind.........who is the file that they keep looking at? I think I missed that part somewhere.

I think the identity of that guy is still a mystery. But he clearly had a major impact on the psyche of Mahone. Probably some guy who got away from him and committed a horrible crime; now he's become an obsession that drives Mahone. Or something similar.

Hey, Chris Rein probably knows. :rolleyes:

That's what I was thinking. I just thought I missed something.

I liked the part that they showed blood flow to the hand but no feeling, at least that's what I took from it.

I liked the part that they showed blood flow to the hand but no feeling, at least that's what I took from it.

Yeah, the Vet got all those zilllions of tiny blood vessels sutured up but, dangit, he forgot to re-connect the nerves! :D

I hope not, Robert Knepper is too good an actor not to have him in the show, can you name a more evil, disgusting bad guy on TV right now? The guy is very good at his craft and I'd hate to see him go.

He also has an amusing scene as a very different type of sleezebag in Good Night, And Good Luck.

He chews the scenery with relish

:D

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Nine pages in the thread is a bit late for that, isn't it?

He also has an amusing scene as a very different type of sleezebag in Good Night, And Good Luck.
Yes, the man definitely has a lot of range, in fact, IMO, he's the best actor in the show. Miller may be the star, but so far he seems to be basically the same character/demeanor he played in "Joan of Arcadia".

Yes, the man definitely has a lot of range, in fact, IMO, he's the best actor in the show. Miller may be the star, but so far he seems to be basically the same character/demeanor he played in "Joan of Arcadia".

Yeah, Miller's total range seems to be "intense" and, uh, "not-quite-so-intense". :D

Yeah, Miller's total range seems to be "intense" and, uh, "not-quite-so-intense". :D
Yeah, actually it should be noted that he may have "broke out" during the phone call sequence to the Doc. :p

Yeah, actually it should be noted that he may have "broke out" during the phone call sequence to the Doc. :p

Except his face was in complete shadow so you couldn't even see his expression! (Maybe the director did so because his "not-quite-so-intense" look wasn't quite the right fit. :p )

5th Season: Prison Break-The Next Generation

24th season: Prison Break: 24...

Except his face was in complete shadow so you couldn't even see his expression! (Maybe the director did so because his "not-quite-so-intense" look wasn't quite the right fit. :p )
:D

I agree, last night's episode was the best so far. The pace was better than the previous weeks'.

btw, I don't know who gets killed next, but I'd think it's not Tweener. Out of all the convicts on the loose, Mike and Linc need him the most (or maybe will need him).

No matter how much "good" Michael thinks he accomplished by "saving" one innocent life, he is now an accessory to murder himself which puts him in the same category as those who set up his brother. He's no different. Anything T-bag (or any other escapee) does makes Michael an accessory. Thus, Michael Scofield will go down as the worst criminal of all of them.

There is no way this series can end without Michael Scofield's death. Anyone who doesn't feel this way is "sympathizing" with the criminal. If you look at things objectively, the best thing that can happen is for Scofield to be shot on sight as quickly as possible. Don't get sucked in to an emotional attachment to the criminal. Scofield is actually much worse than T-bag.

Scofield is actually much worse than T-bag.
OK, you were making fairly good sense until this. There is no lower scum than a child molester. Even the cons recognize that fact.

That's the beauty of the essence of the show. Michael did something for a family member which far outweighs the consequences.

Ask yourself, would you do something to save a loved one if it means a few others will die? Most would, sad but true.

OK, you were making fairly good sense until this. There is no lower scum than a child molester. Even the cons recognize that fact.

If T-bag kills or molests, it's as if Michael himself is doing it. He is the reason T-bag is out and committing those crimes. He is responsible for ALL crimes of the escapees. Yes, he is WORSE than T-bag.

Rather than allow T-bag to escape with them, Michael should've called off the whole escape and sacrificed his brother to death. It is completely unimaginable that he could allow those other convicts to escape, thus allowing them to commit more crimes. VERY VERY selfish.

That's the beauty of the essence of the show. Michael did something for a family member which far outweighs the consequences.

Ask yourself, would you do something to save a loved one if it means a few others will die? Most would, sad but true.

Of course that is a VERY difficult question. Most would do anything to save a loved one -- at least in "reaction" to a situation. However if given time to contemplate the action (as Michael Scofield certainly had), rationale and sense SHOULD prevail. There are many instances of people sacrificing themselves and loved ones for the better good. That's the difference between a hero and a coward.

Letting those other hardened criminals OUT of prision is a very selfish and cowardly act. If he would have stopped the escape and sacrificed his freedom and bother's life in order to keep those killers and criminals in prision, he would have been viewed as a hero. Now he is nothing better than the hardened criminals he allowed to escape.

No matter how much "good" Michael thinks he accomplished by "saving" one innocent life, he is now an accessory to murder himself which puts him in the same category as those who set up his brother. He's no different. Anything T-bag (or any other escapee) does makes Michael an accessory. Thus, Michael Scofield will go down as one of the worst criminals of all time.

There is no way this series can end without Michael Scofield's death. Anyone who doesn't feel this way is "sympathizing" with the criminal. If you look at things objectively, the best thing that can happen is for Scofield to be shot on sight as quickly as possible. Don't get sucked in to an emotional attachment to the criminal. Scofield is actually much worse than T-bag.

Strictly speaking, this is not untrue. It should be said, however, that the character of Michael easily falls into the category of an extremely smart but flawed antihero. And the history of television is littered with beloved antiheros, many of them much bigger scoundrels than Scofield is.

That being said, it isn't essential the Scofield dies. One of the front-running ideas for a third season of this show (should it make it to a 3rd season) proposes that Scofield actually teams up with the FBI to hunt down and capture all of the remaining convicts he helped to escape. Presumably, since the president's brother is still alive, the arrest and death sentence of his brother, Lincoln, for murder becomes mostly moot. Michael works off his sentence for what he did do wrong by helping the FBI. Considering Prison Break is as extremely implausible as it is, this theory is relatively plausible.

Allright Chris, you're clearly getting advance looks at this show. Time to give it up and come clean. How are you doing it? Critics' screener copies? Buddy at a post-production house?

And one thing else is clear: you've crossed the line into spoiler territory. Some folks around here tend not to look too kindly at that sort of posting...

Sorry about the spoilers. I didn't flat out say who, what, when, where, how and why, but I was on the line I guess. :p

Not a critic.
No buddies at post-production.

Something else. Much closer to the show, and a big fan! :D


Anyway, about this weeks episode, since it aired, obviously Abruzzi is gone. In my post last week, I didn't want to give away the red x as you heard Mahone go completely off on how not to cross off a name unless it's confirmed.

I thought this past episode was the best of the season so far. I like how Bellick has come out of his days with his mama and is getting sleezy and just downright mad. I know he's got to be thinking, fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice... :D

And to follow up from another post I had about the horrible car scenes and the dummy, they clearly covered up the window to hide it in the final production. I was so glad for that!

I love the show, but I just don't know how they are going to squeeze the next 3 seasons in with these characters. As much as I hate to say it, I was hoping that we would get resolution on the shows characters this season. I see this being another LOST, which is another show I love, but how much is too much!?!??

One of the front-running ideas for a third season of this show (should it make it to a 3rd season) proposes that Scofield actually teams up with the FBI to hunt down and capture all of the remaining convicts he helped to escape. Presumably, since the president's brother is still alive, the arrest and death sentence of his brother, Lincoln, for murder becomes mostly moot. Michael works off his sentence for what he did do wrong by helping the FBI. Considering Prison Break is as extremely implausible as it is, this theory is relatively plausible.

Yes, that theory is interesting and would offer some way Scofield can make amends for the wrongs he has perpetrated. In my opinion, that would be the only way Scofield can be saved. I guess the presumption would be that Scofield has some additional intelligence that can assist in the capture of the escapees.

I guess it's possible that FBI's Mahone could be incapacitated by health problems and Scofield will actually REPLACE Mahone as the intelligence behind the apprehensions of the escapees in exchange for his prison sentence.

What do you think, Chris?

I agree, last night's episode was the best so far. The pace was better than the previous weeks'.

btw, I don't know who gets killed next, but I'd think it's not Tweener. Out of all the convicts on the loose, Mike and Linc need him the most (or maybe will need him).

Alackaday.

I just found me an In-betweener.

I think T-Bag needs him the most. :D

Yes, that theory is interesting and would offer some way Scofield can make amends for the wrongs he has perpetrated. In my opinion, that would be the only way Scofield can be saved. I guess the presumption would be that Scofield has some additional intelligence that can assist in the capture of the escapees.

I guess it's possible that FBI's Mahone could be incapacitated by health problems and Scofield will actually REPLACE Mahone as the intelligence behind the apprehensions of the escapees in exchange for his prison sentence.

What do you think, Chris?

That could be interesting, but the question remains on how big the death toll will climb by the end of the season. We saw how fast 2 of them went, and 2 big ones at that. I think it would be hard for the audience to swallow that all the wrongs done during this whole operation are made right by finding the rest of the crew. Which then leads to, if it wasn't for them (the cons), they would have never gotten out.

I think we should have Prison Break: Break Harder followed by the T-Bagger Vance Chronicles of Tweener.

:D

I agree, last night's episode was the best so far. The pace was better than the previous weeks'.




I agree...the best so far...Michael is driving the FBI guy crazy...

24th season: Prison Break: 24...


Prison Break: 24 The year Jack Bauer breaks the boys out!

Yeah, it certainly was easier to just "get into" the episode straight through for a change.

The only thing that had me thinking during it was that hand again, when he was showing it. I still think that thing should've shriveled up and fallen off by now.

But that part at the end about letting the stripper go was definitely pretty stupid, and I did take note of that. At least they saved it till the very end.

I was speaking of the prior episode (I said I was behind, but posted before the latest one aired). But yes, this one was better again! And yes on the leaving the stripper thing.

Also, since when does a mob boss perform a "hit" on his own? (even when it's personal). Don't they usually send one of the underling/soldiers to clean up messes like that? I didn't buy Abruzzi falling for the trap that easily.

Don't you watch the Sopranos? :D

I can't believe how they're just killing off some of my favorite characters. First the sister with the VP's brother, and now Abruzzi. Apparently the actors on this show don't want their agents to be too successful negotiating pay!

Don't you watch the Sopranos? :D

Of course, and Tony isn't about to risk everything for a hit. The only one I can remember him doing personally was his cousin, and only because it was his cousin.

Of course, and Tony isn't about to risk everything for a hit. The only one I can remember him doing personally was his cousin, and only because it was his cousin.

Tony killed a mob rat he discovered by accident back in the "College" episode in S-1. And, of course, he offed Ralphie.

I hate to say this (I loved season 1) but my ability to suspend disbelief is failing me here.

There are simply too many people that know about Utah. They would/should be heading to mexico and saying ^%&$ the money at this point. Are we expected to belive that michael could not manage to support them on the lam in some third world country with his intellect? They need that money so bad they are risking death (For Linc at least)?

We are expected that Fabrutzi (sp) would actually belive that a few days after he escaped that his nemisis would be ratted out and be a flea-bag motel? Nobody that dumb could have been a Mc Donalds shift manager much less a crime boss.

Was anyone fooled into believing that the kid was going to get pinched? Terrible writing... far FAR too obvious what was going to happen.

Now I know his last job was a county sheriff in the Florida everglades but come on would the FBI put a guy in charge of tracking down the man who killed the President's brother who would start to crack in less than a WEEK?

Tony killed a mob rat he discovered by accident back in the "College" episode in S-1. And, of course, he offed Ralphie.

I'm pretty sure he also killed (along with about 5 other guys) Big Pussy.

I'm pretty sure he also killed (along with about 5 other guys) Big Pussy.
Syl, Paulie and Tony killed Big Pussy on the boat, they all shot him.

With so many knowing about the money in Utah, I think the writers are going for "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World" type of story. :D

So, who wants to speculate about what kind of medication Mahone is taking?

Is it a drug prescribed by a psychiatrist? What condition?

Or it is a medical condition?

Ideas?

So, who wants to speculate about what kind of medication Mahone is taking?

Is it a drug prescribed by a psychiatrist? What condition?

Or it is a medical condition?

These are not mutually exclusive propositions.

Syl, Paulie and Tony killed Big Pussy on the boat, they all shot him.


Tony also killed some guy in a snack bar one night - can't remember the exact details, but I remember it caused some concern afterwards that he could be linked to it.

Except his face was in complete shadow so you couldn't even see his expression! :p )

Nah, that's just the lack of shadow detail on your LCD... :p

wrongly imprisoned (Michael and C-Note).

Those two were not wrongly imprisoned. Michael attempted to rob a bank, and C-Note was involved in moving stolen goods. We feel sympathetic towards them b/c of their motivations for committing the crimes, but they are guilty nevertheless.

No matter how much "good" Michael thinks he accomplished by "saving" one innocent life, he is now an accessory to murder himself which puts him in the same category as those who set up his brother. He's no different. Anything T-bag (or any other escapee) does makes Michael an accessory. Thus, Michael Scofield will go down as the worst criminal of all of them.

There is no way this series can end without Michael Scofield's death. Anyone who doesn't feel this way is "sympathizing" with the criminal. If you look at things objectively, the best thing that can happen is for Scofield to be shot on sight as quickly as possible. Don't get sucked in to an emotional attachment to the criminal. Scofield is actually much worse than T-bag.

The greater good of bringing down a massive gov't conspiracy is justification in his mind. I think he thought Abruzzi or the Police would take down T-Bag shortly after the escape. He never wanted to bring all of those guys out. Just Abruzzi (transport) and Westmoreland (money), besides his brother of course. Seeing Michael's hand forced by circumstances in jail and having to bring out Sucre, C-Note, and the others was part of what made Season One so compelling.

The gov't conspiracy forced Michael to choose between bad (jail break w/ complications) and worse (leaving his brother to rot and die) courses of action.

With regards to T-Bag. Do we know for sure he actually killed those two people? Perhaps the amazing Pet Doc is in a drug-induced coma and the good (dumb) samaritan is bound and tied in the motel closet. Wouldn't be much of a stretch for this show.

With regards to T-Bag. Do we know for sure he actually killed those two people? Perhaps the amazing Pet Doc is in a drug-induced coma and the good (dumb) samaritan is bound and tied in the motel closet. Wouldn't be much of a stretch for this show.

Good point, we don't have confirmed deaths on either of those although it is strongly implied.

Also, don't you appreciate the joke in T-Bag getting worked on by a vet? The only appropriate treatment for an animal like him...

Nah, that's just the lack of shadow detail on your LCD... :p

Oh, that's cold man; no need to insult me like that. There will never, ever, be an LCD TV in my house! Good ol' fashioned CRT direct-view, baby - accept no substitute. :)

Oh, that's cold man; no need to insult me like that. There will never, ever, be an LCD TV in my house! Good ol' fashioned CRT direct-view, baby - accept no substitute. :)There have been so many times that an inferior technology has gradually become better than the existing one. CRTs are still the great for contrast, response time, viewing angle, gamma correction and colorimetry (at least with SMPTE C phosphors). LCDs are getting closer, some experimental ones have comparable contrast to a CRT. Flat panels have inherent perfect registration and the pixels can be made smaller to offer higher resolution. I doubt there will be much in the way of consumer CRT displays in five years. SEDs and OLEDs are around the corner.

Enjoy those CRTs while you can as the image gradually softens into a gassy haze. That's if you're lucky and don't get grid shorts.

OK I'm officially just watching this show for its tremendous snark value.

I gave up on this show as soon as I saw T-Bag drive away with the Good Samaritan's car with no hint of how he used his bionic hand to subdue him. And who would pick up T-Bag off the street in the first place? Throw in the cops who can't recognize the most guilty looking front-page fugative in crime history, feds who passively sit in the parking lot waiting for a fugative to come out of a hotel room and surrender instead of going in and getting him, the fugative switching stations when a report of escaped criminals comes on (so as not to arouse suspicion!), and once again for the millionth time on television, a gun without a clip used as a plot device (notice the empty hole at the bottom of the gun?), and I'm watching a show that's all plot points and no plot between them.

Can't the writers try a little harder to come up with material that kids won't laugh at?

SEDs and OLEDs are around the corner.

I'm pretty intrigued by those. We'll see how they do when they're finally ready for prime time.

Enjoy those CRTs while you can as the image gradually softens into a gassy haze. That's if you're lucky and don't get grid shorts.

I don't know about that.... I have a NEC 25 incher from 1983 that still produces a picture that, if not quite as good as when new, is too close for me to tell. My current display is a Sony 34XBR910. I expect it to work like a champ for many years to come. And it better, because CRT is being phased out, as you mentioned. :(

Can't the writers try a little harder to come up with material that kids won't laugh at?

Why should they go to the trouble if the ratings are still good?
-JMP

Those two were not wrongly imprisoned. Michael attempted to rob a bank, and C-Note was involved in moving stolen goods. We feel sympathetic towards them b/c of their motivations for committing the crimes, but they are guilty nevertheless.

I meant to say Lincoln, not Michael. And I forgot about C-Note, I was thinking he was framed by the military. I guess they just gave him a dishonorable discharge, though.

...And I forgot about C-Note, I was thinking he was framed by the military. I guess they just gave him a dishonorable discharge, though.
Sort of. He was dealing in black market goods and his superiors were benefiting from it - and allowing it, too. It wasn't until he threatened to report abuse of a prisoner (if I remember correctly) that they set him up to take the fall for his dealings. So, he wasn't innocent, but his customers included those above him. They needed a way to discredit him so he couldn't report their wrong doings.

He pretty much picked the wrong time to have a conscience. Had he stayed silent, he could have continued the way he had been for the rest of his tour.

All these posts and no one has mentioned how hot the ex-wife/stripper looked in the last episode?
No screen caps? What the heck, is this forum growing up or something? ;)


Belick had some funny nicknames for her... althought the only two I can think of right now are 'commie' and 'sweetpea'.

That girl (the actress, not the character) has a future in jiggle tv. Maybe she should join the cast of Las Vegas.

Agree with UTV2Tivo ;)

I don't know if someone commented about this, but can we be sure that Abruzzi is dead? Last time he survived a big cut in the neck, everybody thought he was dead. Also the doc, Michael's gf, survived an OD. Maybe Abruzzi can survive the impact of 30 bullets.... :)

Maybe Abruzzi can survive the impact of 30 bullets.... :)What? You think this is "Alias" or something? :)

All these posts and no one has mentioned how hot the ex-wife/stripper looked in the last episode?
No screen caps? What the heck, is this forum growing up or something? ;)


Belick had some funny nicknames for her... althought the only two I can think of right now are 'commie' and 'sweetpea'.

That girl (the actress, not the character) has a future in jiggle tv. Maybe she should join the cast of Las Vegas.
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One thing that bothers me is That T Bag is pushed around by Michael..Abruzzi..and others in Prison, but then with Good Samaritan..He acts like he is Chuck Lidell and pleads with him not to make this mistake. With only one arm he must be a bad @#$....Not at all what I saw during the show while in Prison!

http://www.mictaservice.com/images/holly043.jpg

That's what I'M talkin' about!

So, who wants to speculate about what kind of medication Mahone is taking?

Is it a drug prescribed by a psychiatrist? What condition?

Or it is a medical condition?

Ideas?I'm thinkin' that they're nitro pills for his heart.

And you can probably expect him to capture the brothers eventually, but they'll escape when he's having an attack and finds that he's out of pills. Or the guys will save him and he'll feel indebted to them, and change his opinion about them.

There's pontential for all kinds of possibilities there.

That girl (the actress, not the character) has a future in jiggle tv. Maybe she should join the cast of Las Vegas.

She actually had a bit part on Entourage last year, and flashed some side-boobage with a skinnydipping scene at the beach. :)

Why should they go to the trouble if the ratings are still good?
Because networks want shows to get good ratings as a result of good writing, not in spite of bad writing.

And the season has hardly begun. It's competing against MNF (in most timezones), "Wife Swap" and reruns of "Two and a Half Men" which it's barely staying even with. It's also going to have to get its audience back after it goes on hiatus during baseball.

Because networks want shows to get good ratings as a result of good writing, not in spite of bad writing.

I can assure you that the networks really don't care why shows get good ratings so long as they do. Have you looked at the rest of Fox's programming... ever?

I can assure you that the networks really don't care why shows get good ratings so long as they do. Have you looked at the rest of Fox's programming... ever?

There's one called House (Emmy material, as I recall) and Bones (pretty good writing in there too) and many seem to like Justice (myself included). Let's not over-generalize.

Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday for FOX aren't bad, the rest of the week, forget it.

There's one called House (Emmy material, as I recall) and Bones (pretty good writing in there too) and many seem to like Justice (myself included). Let's not over-generalize.

And please don't forget 24, and that other little gem of a show called The Loop. For some reason, Vanished has me hooked too and I had no desire to watch the show.

Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday for FOX aren't bad, the rest of the week, forget it.

And how many days for other networks can you say forget it to past Wednesday? Let's face it, count Friday and Saturday out of the picture and that's not a bad week for Fox! Sunday is ABC for Housewives, which I never got into, and when Grey's comes back, they'll own Thursday. I would say that there is a great mix of shows this season that sprinkle through the week. Unfortunately, well, I guess fortunately if I don't get caught up on my shows, my DVR dies on Friday through Sunday with lack of quality programming.

And how many days for other networks can you say forget it to past Wednesday? Let's face it, count Friday and Saturday out of the picture and that's not a bad week for Fox! Sunday is ABC for Housewives, which I never got into, and when Grey's comes back, they'll own Thursday. I would say that there is a great mix of shows this season that sprinkle through the week. Unfortunately, well, I guess fortunately if I don't get caught up on my shows, my DVR dies on Friday through Sunday with lack of quality programming.
There's at least 1 or 2 shows minimum every day of the week other than Saturday that I like to watch. With some of the nets bringing out new shows that may change, but with FOX, Mon-Tues-Wed and that's it for me.

I do not know what some of you guys are expecting. If they had shown how T-bag got the car and killed the guy you would complain. T-bag is a stone cold killer I am not surprised he could kill the guy.

The last two episodes were pretty good in my opinion.

There's at least 1 or 2 shows minimum every day of the week other than Saturday that I like to watch. With some of the nets bringing out new shows that may change, but with FOX, Mon-Tues-Wed and that's it for me.

I'm sure FOX is delighted with that. That's 3 - 6 hours out of only 14 total a week.

I'm sure FOX is delighted with that. That's 3 - 6 hours out of only 14 total a week.
Definitely, I'm on the fence though with Vanished, Justice and Standoff, so that total of 6 may be cut down to 3. Of course, one of those hours would be added back with "24" come Jan.

Monday, Sept 18th, "Prison Break" on KTVU will be preempted by the Giants/Rockies game. The kicker is that the game is scheduled to start at 5:30pm and could very well be over by 8pm....oh well...

"Prison Break" will be shown on KICU in the normal 8pm to 9pm time slot.

Definitely, I'm on the fence though with Vanished, Justice and Standoff, so that total of 6 may be cut down to 3. Of course, one of those hours would be added back with "24" come Jan.

But when 24 comes PB is gone, so it would drop back to 3.

Still waiting to watch Vanished - has early cancellation written all over it - if it makes it, I'll probably get caught up during the off season. Thought I'd love Justice and be on the fence with Standoff, but after a couple of episodes, Justice seems to be going no where interesting and I don't really care about any of the characters - while Standoff, at least for now, has much more interesting characters.

Every show should needs a character like Jack Bauer, Dr. House, or T-Bag. ;)

Yeah, the 3 new will probably be gone by Jan.

Now, when 24 comes back will that be it for PB this season, or does it come back later?

I think it's one, then the other.

Monday, Sept 18th, "Prison Break" on KTVU will be preempted by the Giants/Rockies game. The kicker is that the game is scheduled to start at 5:30pm and could very well be over by 8pm....oh well...

"Prison Break" will be shown on KICU in the normal 8pm to 9pm time slot.
KICU station never broadcast in HD, so PB will be shown in SD.

KICU station never broadcast in HD, so PB will be shown in SD.
Yes, it will be in SD. Although I think KICU did a few A's game awhile back in HD but it was probably a local production.

They are filming Prison Break through February, so once again it will be the one-two punch of Prison Break then 24 on Monday's.

KICU station never broadcast in HD, so PB will be shown in SD.

i hate it when they do that. anyone know where i can catch the previous episode. i heard they sometimes air episodes over the internet.

The best episode of the season. I think right now PB is in the same level as it was last season.

Next week seems to be really good.

It's been good the whole way..people just have to complain about something.

Wentworth Miller has said that this show is basically a comic book, and in that regard, it is definitely exciting and fast-paced.

It really bothers me that they still talk about "Chicago" but they are obviosly not in Chicago anymore. The FBI field office in Chicago is also a federal prision and it a 35 story building at that. I liked seeing places I knew and walked last season.

There was something else that bothered me last night but I don't remember what it was.

(From Marc Berman’s Tuesday, September 19, 2006, Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com )
Primetime Ratings For Monday, September 18th

”…Despite the added competition, Fox’s Prison Break held up. Prison Break opened with a 6.1/ 9 in the overnights (#3), 9.43 million viewers (#3) and a 3.9/11 among adults 18-49 (#2) at 8 p.m….”

Note: Prison Break averaged 9.26 million viewers for all of last season.)

This episode was more logical and much less laughable than last week's. I hope the writers can keep it up.

I can assure you that the networks really don't care why shows get good ratings so long as they do. Have you looked at the rest of Fox's programming... ever?
They care because at $2 million an episode, they want shows to continue to get good ratings so they don't waste their money. That's why they pay experienced writers lots of money to write the shows instead of hiring teenagers through a temp agency to do it.

They care because at $2 million an episode, they want shows to continue to get good ratings so they don't waste their money. That's why they pay experienced writers lots of money to write the shows instead of hiring teenagers through a temp agency to do it.

You really haven't watched much programming on Fox, have you?

You really haven't watched much programming on Fox, have you?

What's with the general FOX slams with nothing to back up your comments? Did Rupert steal your girlfriend or something?

FOX now has a number of critical acclaimed shows to go along with a number of mega rated shows, how does their programming quality differ from the other major nets?

What's with the general FOX slams with nothing to back up your comments? Did Rupert steal your girlfriend or something?


Not really sure what it is, but the tone of his posts seem to indicate that someone pisses in his tea every morning. I guess it's cool to have an abrasive personality.....online.

Well for two weeks in a row it's taken me about 6 days to watch the recording of Prison Break. The one last Monday was perhaps a bit more realistic, but hardly interesting or exciting. I'm giving the show one more week before removing it from my recording schedule.

I agree, the show has lost its appeal to me. There's no more mystery, just the same suspense as last season.

Anyone notice the FBI agent NOT unlocking the door at the hardware store when he broke the glass to get in? Bit of a mess up there.

pretty over the top tonight, the show is almost becoming a comedy.

I still like it, I just don't take it as seriously as I did last year. Lucky for prison break, I can record two shows at once with tivo, so unless 2 better shows come on at the same time, I'll keep watching it.

pretty over the top tonight, the show is almost becoming a comedy.

I still like it, I just don't take it as seriously as I did last year. Lucky for prison break, I can record two shows at once with tivo, so unless 2 better shows come on at the same time, I'll keep watching it.

This was the wife and my favorite show last year; we wouldn't miss it.

You are correct in that it is a comedy now. I'm one of those guys who talks to the TV and with this show, I keep saying "Oh Come on Get Real"

Not even a hint at logic anymore. :o

Anyone notice the FBI agent NOT unlocking the door at the hardware store when he broke the glass to get in? Bit of a mess up there.

I don't think the deadbolt was supposed to be thrown since Tweener couldn't have done that when he left.

Anyone notice the FBI agent NOT unlocking the door at the hardware store when he broke the glass to get in? Bit of a mess up there.
Saw that. But figured the lock was one that only locks the outside, letting you turn the knob from the inside. And wasn't there a screwdriver used on the outside to keep the doors shut? That would follow and seem reasonable; I'm just surprised that Tweener was bright enough to think of it. :D

And wasn't there a screwdriver used on the outside to keep the doors shut? That would follow and seem reasonable; I'm just surprised that Tweener was bright enough to think of it. :D

No, the screwdriver was used on the closet/storage room doors to keep the occupants contained.

Seems like they would have had to jackhammer out the whole garage floor and excavate the whole area to have a chance at finding the loot. But, all that's moot now anyway; by the time Mahone finds the house, they'll be gone, one step ahead of him again. If they don't find the loot, they'll probably have to resort to robbery to fund their run.

No, the screwdriver was used on the closet/storage room doors to keep the occupants contained.
Yeah, that's right. I remember now.

Anyway, it was good to see Diana Scarwid, although I almost didn't recognize her. The scene between her and T-Bag was the highlight of the episode for me. But, good grief, her voice certainly has gotten deep! :D

An interesting part of the episode is that the doc's father is starting to think she's right, which sets up some interesting possibilities if he is confirmed as VP. When the Pres gets thrown out for her involvement in the conspiracy he could pardon Michael and Linc.

Again, what an excelent actor is the one acting as T-Bag. I really enjoyed the scenes of T-bag and the lady of the house.

Season 2 just doesn't seem properly planned out, it just seems kind of rushed and scrambled, like driving by the seat of there pants with this one. Like there doing there best to drag stuff and create filler and that has just made it silly and predictable. I really think there is just poor writing on this one fo this season and even at the end of last season. I just wonder ....1) Who's going to Die next week 2) Do they find the Money 3) And who gets caught..Mike..Link...CNote...????????????? Lets play a game and make it more interesting by guessing the outcome!! Anyone

Well, for me anyway, I can no longer "check my reality meter" at the door. You can only suspend disbelief and logic so far and still enjoy a show that claims intricate suspense and mystery. This has become a cartoon. I actually thought of the Coyote and the RoadRunner at times during the "dig up the garage" scenes. Not to criticize those of you who are contemplating points like the locked door/screwdriver details, but such intricacies are simply overwhelmed by the other abundant and stunningly ridiculous developments that have turned this once fine series into a joke. The doctor's father partly figuring out the plot and phone call to his daughter was the only slight reminiscence of the old thriller/suspense quality of last year. I doubt that that will be enough (for me). This one is perilously close to my personal cancellation.

Seems like they would have had to jackhammer out the whole garage floor and excavate the whole area to have a chance at finding the loot.
Did you see the nice smooth cuts in the concrete? They actually used an 8" circular concrete saw! Normally you would have to get those at a tool rental place for a hundred bucks a day but that little garden center apparently stocked them. Also they normally spray water over the blade to keep it cool and keep dust from spraying everywhere but there wasn't a drop of water or a spec of dust anywhere.

Since they figured the silo foundation was directly under the garage floor, I was hoping they would have done something smart like hit the floor with hammers to determine what parts of the floor were on the most solid ground (i.e. the foundation). Maybe they cut that scene for more time with T-Bag and the desperate housewife.

The "chase" scene with Tweener was one of the most poorly edited things I've seen in a long time. The dumb guy "outruns" the FBI trucks that are right on his butt and they completely disappear and then suddenly Mahone teleports himself running right behind Tweener. :confused:

I really didn't need to see T-bag's nasty teeth in High Definition clarity!

All the scenes in the garage felt like a flashback to last season in the guardhouse.

Hmm. . . Lots of issues here I'm afraid.

LDS (Mormon) folk (of which I'm one) are pretty easy to identify by what they wear, how they talk and their mannerisms. Haven't see any yet in the people they have shown in Utah. The woman T-bag engages is about as far from a Mormon as you can get. You'd think if they decided to use Tooele, Utah as a location, they would at least try to portray some Mormon folk. Odd.

Most Utah homes have basements. To portray the sub division as "slapped together" and resting on top without foundations is a real stretch. The whole Utah location is odd to me since they are not portraying it very well at all.

The FBI deduced that Cooper would have had to bury the money within 60 miles of American Fork. Fine, but that 60 miles includes 2 million population Salt Lake City Metro area which would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. Somebody remind me again how the FBI ended up in little Tooele. Did he go there because of the call to the small town sherif made by the Garden store shopper? Because if that's the case, there were probably hundreds of other calls coming from metro Salt Lake City that would also be suspicious in nature.

The reunion of the convicts is laughably unrealistic.

Pinpointing where the silo was is laughably unrealistic.

Finding the proper tools to dig through cement in a small town garden shop is laughably unrealistic.

Digging through the garage floor and finding the foundation for the silo just feet below is laughably unrealistic.

Although last week's episode I would rate a 7 out of 10. This episode has slipped back down to 4 out of 10. The good episodes are few and far between this year it appears.

I know this show is not supposed to be that "realistic." But it needs to have some logic and make some sense. Thus far, it's too far off the mark.

The "chase" scene with Tweener was one of the most poorly edited things I've seen in a long time. The dumb guy "outruns" the FBI trucks that are right on his butt and they completely disappear and then suddenly Mahone teleports himself running right behind Tweener. :confused:

The drugs Mahone takes give him superhuman speed and strength as well and incredible intellect. You must have missed that part.

Hmm. . . Lots of issues here I'm afraid.

LDS (Mormon) folk (of which I'm one) are pretty easy to identify by what they wear, how they talk and their mannerisms. Haven't see any yet in the people they have shown in Utah. The woman T-bag engages is about as far from a Mormon as you can get. You'd think if they decided to use Tooele, Utah as a location, they would at least try to portray some Mormon folk. Odd.

Most Utah homes have basements. To portray the sub division as "slapped together" and resting on top without foundations is a real stretch. The whole Utah location is odd to me since they are not portraying it very well at all.

The FBI deduced that Cooper would have had to bury the money within 60 miles of American Fork. Fine, but that 60 miles includes 2 million population Salt Lake City Metro area which would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. Somebody remind me again how the FBI ended up in little Tooele. Did he go there because of the call to the small town sherif made by the Garden store shopper? Because if that's the case, there were probably hundreds of other calls coming from metro Salt Lake City that would also be suspicious in nature.

The reunion of the convicts is laughably unrealistic.

Pinpointing where the silo was is laughably unrealistic.

Finding the proper tools to dig through cement in a small town garden shop is laughably unrealistic.

Digging through the garage floor and finding the foundation for the silo just feet below is laughably unrealistic.

Although last week's episode I would rate a 7 out of 10. This episode has slipped back down to 4 out of 10. The good episodes are few and far between this year it appears.

I know this show is not supposed to be that "realistic." But it needs to have some logic and make some sense. Thus far, it's too far off the mark.

Very nicely stated...I have now officially made Prison Break...must not see TV...they have jumped the shark way too many times...

The drugs Mahone takes give him superhuman speed and strength as well and incredible intellect. You must have missed that part.
Curse this brilliant show! It's outsmarted me once again! :)

Odd that some of you are being so critical of the show only now. This series has always required a suspension of disbelief.

You'd think if they decided to use Tooele, Utah as a location, they would at least try to portray some Mormon folk. Odd.
Then they'd risk stereotyping Mormons. Then the network would get letters. Networks don't like to get letters!

Most Utah homes have basements. To portray the sub division as "slapped together" and resting on top without foundations is a real stretch. The whole Utah location is odd to me since they are not portraying it very well at all.
I don't think he said without foundations (which is illegal everywhere in the country). He said (or implied) that they'd probably be on slab foundations which aren't uncommon in new houses these days since they don't require much excavation, but then they'd be destroying actual rooms looking for the booty. Naturally they got lucky with the garage which are rarely above basements since supporting the load of a car above a living space is expensive.

However this does not look like a cheap subdivision! Look at the expensive brickwork on the front of the house. The whole "cheap subdivision" didn't make sense and was moot in the end anyway. *sigh*

Somebody remind me again how the FBI ended up in little Tooele.
It came to him in a prescription drug induced vision!

Television With Pity is going to have fun shreding this episode! :D

Somebody remind me again how the FBI ended up in little Tooele. Did he go there because of the call to the small town sherif made by the Garden store shopper?

No, it was because of the "stolen" car that Tweener ditched outside of town. Mahone mentions it to the sheriff and how it belonged to a student coming home from St. Louis (where I believe Tweener had been spotted). That's what tipped him to Tooele.

I agree with the other poster that the actor portraying T-bag is a really strong performer.

Can someone explain the different #'s on the origami? What's that all about?

Can someone explain the different #'s on the origami? What's that all about?

Some kind of code, like the dots. Sara will figure it out at some point where it advances the plot for her to do so.

Odd that some of you are being so critical of the show only now. This series has always required a suspension of disbelief.

Sorry, but if you watched season #1 and this fantasy of a season#2 and don't see a significant difference in the AMOUNT of disbelief required...well...I don't know. This 2nd season is written as though they never thought they'd have a 2nd season and were shocked to be re-newed, causing them to slap this mess together. Sure, some of the stuff in Season 1 was a stretch. But the events in the current shows just defy any logic whatever. Even with a certain amount of "it's a tv show", this one has simply gone off the rails. Read back a ways and see some of the more obvious and ludicrous moments of this season - there are dozens. Last year maintained some ingenuity, suspense and creativity while employing just enough "lucky breaks" or somewhat fanciful occurances to be enjoyable. This has now become a supercop hunts supercon with ever widening gaps in any believability whatever. You can only suspend something so far before it snaps. I think I heard that ...snaaaaaapppp....sound a couple of weeks ago. From the previews, I think more "snapping" is enroute.

I agree with the other poster that the actor portraying T-bag is a really strong performer.



Agree 100%. Robert Knepper is, by far, the best actor in the series and portrays the T-bag character perfectly. No wonder they didn't kill him off. The series would go down the drain without him in it.

Well, for me anyway, I can no longer "check my reality meter" at the door. You can only suspend disbelief and logic so far and still enjoy a show that claims intricate suspense and mystery. This has become a cartoon. I actually thought of the Coyote and the RoadRunner at times during the "dig up the garage" scenes. Not to criticize those of you who are contemplating points like the locked door/screwdriver details, but such intricacies are simply overwhelmed by the other abundant and stunningly ridiculous developments that have turned this once fine series into a joke. The doctor's father partly figuring out the plot and phone call to his daughter was the only slight reminiscence of the old thriller/suspense quality of last year. I doubt that that will be enough (for me). This one is perilously close to my personal cancellation.

Very well stated.

However this does not look like a cheap subdivision! Look at the expensive brickwork on the front of the house. The whole "cheap subdivision" didn't make sense and was moot in the end anyway. *sigh*
You've obviously never owned a Toll Brothers house. Those things are big honkin' huge monster house that look beautiful on the outside, but fall apart quickly. Those guys use horrible materials (a friend of mine witnessed them attempting to use badly damaged studs in the bathroom wall of the home they were building for him) and the subcontracters are often shady, at best. After 2 years, there were already large cracks developing in my friend's walls and ceilings.

Those houses look ten times better than the ones I saw on the show and they're horribly built despite prices often in the million dollar range.

So what's the story on Michael's reference to europeangoldfinch.net? It seems to be a real site about... European gold finches.

So what's the story on Michael's reference to europeangoldfinch.net? It seems to be a real site about... European gold finches.

I read somewhere that it's a "fake" web site set up by FOX similar to what ABC did with 'Lost'. They will add content relative to the show as the season goes on.

Those guys use horrible materials (a friend of mine witnessed them attempting to use badly damaged studs in the bathroom wall of the home they were building for him) and the subcontracters are often shady, at best. After 2 years, there were already large cracks developing in my friend's walls and ceilings.
Sadly this is typical of all kinds of new houses around here. It's still legal in Oregon to build with green lumber, believe it or not. Most lumber in lumber yards looks like it came from trees cut down yesterday.

It's really hard to tell from the outside how poorly built houses are, much less what kind of foundation they're on. It's more a matter of what the local building codes are and how well they're enforced. It's against code here to put a new foundation on top of an existing foundation and that's really important if you're doing any masonry that would crack during settling. Cheap contractors don't want to deal with this and that's why there's no brick in poorly built houses around here.

Help...10/2/06 recording issue- missed show tonight. What are my options? Is this one avail for download next day? If so, Where?

Itunes or bitorent

Help...10/2/06 recording issue- missed show tonight. What are my options? Is this one avail for download next day? If so, Where?


Fox usually has the past week's episode on its website available for free viewing...can't download it but can watch it on your computer...

Tonight's ending: disturbing.

Can someone explain the different #'s on the origami? What's that all about?


It's a phone number that has been inactive for 19 years and has yet to be explained....

Help...10/2/06 recording issue- missed show tonight. What are my options? Is this one avail for download next day? If so, Where?
I think it was on FX that they reran last week's episode a day or so later.

I was kind of surprised to see that. When I saw it in the guide, I figured it would be an older episode, but it was the most recent. Can't recall what time it was on, though.

If you have access to the channel, check the schedule.

Poor Tweener... :(

Rammitinski...thanks for the FX idea. I scanned the link below but did not see on schedule. Maybe a second pair of eyes might see? Thanks
http://www.fxnetworks.com/index.php

It will be on FOX next Monday if no baseball. The TV Guide info is the same as this week's PB.

Fox usually has the past week's episode on its website available for free viewing...can't download it but can watch it on your computer...

Tonight's ending: disturbing.

Yeah, I actually saw that one coming. Remember when he was in his backyard, staring at the birdbath? I have a feeling that's where he buried that first guy.

I wonder if he was smart enough to remove the wiretap from Tweener? Under normal circumstances, I'm sure he would, but considering he's gone a bit psycho, who knows?

I have a feeling he's not going to try and take any of these guys alive. He was reprimanded for not taking abruzzi down BEFORE he went into the hotel room. By doing so he made it a standoff, instead of a straight up takedown.

How dumb is Lincoln....? He has to know it's a trap.

It's a phone number that has been inactive for 19 years and has yet to be explained....


The two Oragami's they've shown so far have two different numbers. I'm assuming there is a pattern for Sara to put together to determine the actual phone number to call to get in touch with him? I don't know.

Yeah, I actually saw that one coming. Remember when he was in his backyard, staring at the birdbath? I have a feeling that's where he buried that first guy.

I'm not so sure. The more I think about it, the more I think the first story (the one told in the interrogation room about him getting away) is the real story. And now he's determined to not let that happen, so he's going to off the Fox River boys.

I did get to watch the last episodes on last season...

Who's the crazy guy that stole the painting from the old lady? What's his role? He wants to build a raft and go to the windmill? Was he part of the escape? thanks.

He also is probably working for the bad guys. He said something like "I don't have a problem with you, but "they" do."

How dumb is Lincoln....? He has to know it's a trap.

Looks like he caught the same "stupid bug" from Michael on 'Lost'. They never learn do they? :p

And I agree with the "poor Tweener" sentiment. And Sara's dad! (There goes the "He'll pardon Mike and Linc when he gets to be President" angle.) This show is knocking off primary characters at a pretty rapid clip.

Looks like he caught the same "stupid bug" from Michael on 'Lost'. They never learn do they? :p




Give me back MY BOY!!! RIGHT NOW!!! (while tied up at gunpoint) :-)

I did get to watch the last episodes on last season...

Who's the crazy guy that stole the painting from the old lady? What's his role? He wants to build a raft and go to the windmill? Was he part of the escape? thanks.
That's Haywire. He was in the crazy ward at the prison, ex-cellmate of Michael in gen pop. He was mezmerized by Michael's tattoo, so he memorized it. When Michael got burned and lost a critical part of the tat, he got himself thrown in the crazy shack and got Haywire to redraw the lost part of the tattoo. Micheal had been promising to take him along on the escape, but didn't, at least not intentionally. He followed along...

BAsed on the previews from next week, I think I got what is happening with the Sucra behavior. I believe Michael and Sucra planned this so that they could get the money and defenitely keep T Bag and maybe C Note out of the picture as Michael didn't want them to escape anyway. In the next episode previews you see Michael behind Sucra saying "Adios Amigos....Hugh" I bet when we see the episode Michael and Sucra will start laughing....Just my guess!

Isn't it being post-poned for like 6 weeks? Starting back in november...no new Prison Break for awhile :(

Isn't it being post-poned for like 6 weeks? Starting back in november...no new Prison Break for awhile :(
I'm pretty sure they said 3 weeks.

Either way, it stinks.. I know it's for the baseball playoffs, but still...just responding to the post above mine (butler5) because there is no 'next week' it's a 'in a few weeks' the show will continue.

After watching last night's episode of "Vanished" I'm not even sure Tweener's dead. :) I mean, if a guy can get shot six or so times point blank in the chest and still survive (Kelton on "Vanished") what's the bet when we get the next episode of PB that Tweener starts to twitch? After what they do on "24" I would put nothing past Fox's writers. OTOH, if Tweener IS dead then I give these writers a bit of credit for giving us a very interesting story line.

Are we certain that those numbers Michael keeps sending are phone numbers?

=NLK=

No, in fact I think we're pretty certain that they are not phone numbers.

I guess the only WTF moment this week was Mahoney taking a dangerous escaped convict to a house that supposedly has more dangerous escaped convicts holding a person hostage, yet he does this alone with absolutely no backup at all. Perhaps the FBI would have more luck if they found a more competant investigator.

I guess the only WTF moment this week was Mahoney taking a dangerous escaped convict to a house that supposedly has more dangerous escaped convicts holding a person hostage, yet he does this alone with absolutely no backup at all. Perhaps the FBI would have more luck if they found a more competant investigator.

Did you miss all the guys storming the house when Mahoney realized what was going on?

I guess I did! :) I was switching back and forth to MNF.

So Mahoney was only transporting Tweener back to jail alone in the van, taking some backroad shortcut that all the other cops didn't take. OK, that makes a little more sense but it's still a WTF moment.

I guess I did! :) I was switching back and forth to MNF.

So Mahoney was only transporting Tweener back to jail alone in the van, taking some backroad shortcut that all the other cops didn't take. OK, that makes a little more sense but it's still a WTF moment.

Considering the glut of WTF moments in previous shows, this episode was much better in that regard (at least I thought so).

Plus, even though he did "break out", Tweener was in jail for stealing a baseball card, which Mahoney had to know. Not much about that says "dangerous criminal" to me.

Plus, even though he did "break out", Tweener was in jail for stealing a baseball card, which Mahoney had to know. Not much about that says "dangerous criminal" to me.

Right. Poor Tweener didn't deserve his fate. Which is probably what the producers want you to think.... We can't be rooting more for Mahoney than we can for our heroes, Mike, link, and yes, T-Bag (he's such a great character - nobody wants to see him get offed). So, they've made Mahoney into a psychologically damaged monster.

Considering the glut of WTF moments in previous shows, this episode was much better in that regard (at least I thought so).

My sentiment exactly. And for that alone, the episode was all the better. Now that psycho FBI guy is exposed, it remains to be seen if they circle the plot to include him with the President's original bad-guy team or if he's just psycho on his own. They've also slightly opened the door for a change of heart moment for the agent who's been chasing the sweetie doc.

Well, now that we have 3 weeks to wait, and the big news spilled last night, I guess I can start posting again. :p

I will say, what got me wasn't Tweener, as I knew that was airing this episode, but Sara's Dad! :eek: I'm not sure how they can keep a couple more seasons up of this with everyone gone.

As to the WTF moment of the week...

Money. Not contained, well, not fully contained. Buried for years. Hardly even showed signs of it degrading over time. And I think I saw a few of the newer bills thrown in there too. Sometimes I hate HD. :p Only kidding.

As to the WTF moment of the week...

Money. Not contained, well, not fully contained. Buried for years. Hardly even showed signs of it degrading over time. And I think I saw a few of the newer bills thrown in there too. Sometimes I hate HD. :p Only kidding.

You know, that's what I thought at first: no way the money would still be any good; heck, it wouldn't even be recognizable, after being in the ground all those years. I rationalize it by thinking it was in a bag that they ripped open with their shovels. Sometimes you need a little of that to make it through the show and not yell at the screen. ;) :D

You know, that's what I thought at first: no way the money would still be any good; heck, it wouldn't even be recognizable, after being in the ground all those years.
I figured they would find that the top 20% crumbed into dust, then the guys would throw it at T-Bag and tell him that was his share of the loot.

See, that would have been funny! Oh well.

I thought it was lame that when Mahoney shot Tweener he shot him right in front of his car and shot the car a few times for good measure. Doesn't that make it harder for him to explain away?
Since he knew he was going to shoot him when he pulled off the road, couldn't he have at least shot Tweener while facing away from the car?
Maybe Mahoney's over the edge and doesn't care about being exposed anymore. Otherwise it was just plain stupid for a trained FBI agent.

It appears that Mahoney is now officially a loose cannon and nothing he does has to make sense or be justified. In order words, he fits right in. :D

Yeah, I actually saw that one coming. Remember when he was in his backyard, staring at the birdbath? I have a feeling that's where he buried that first guy.

I wonder if he was smart enough to remove the wiretap from Tweener? Under normal circumstances, I'm sure he would, but considering he's gone a bit psycho, who knows?

I have a feeling he's not going to try and take any of these guys alive. He was reprimanded for not taking abruzzi down BEFORE he went into the hotel room. By doing so he made it a standoff, instead of a straight up takedown.

How dumb is Lincoln....? He has to know it's a trap.


Total trap...Lincoln's head is clouded and he also thinks he can fly under the radar...Michael knows it is bad knews...the FBI guy is a total sociopath and Michael is the main one in his scope ...poor Tweener... :( I was not happy with the start of the season after loving S1 but it is getting better...albeit some of it still stretches the imagination...I really like when 24 and PB are on at the same time...must see Monday!

The two Oragami's they've shown so far have two different numbers. I'm assuming there is a pattern for Sara to put together to determine the actual phone number to call to get in touch with him? I don't know.


Cool..I didn't notice that...Sara is pretty dumb to say "MICHAEL" when Michael called, right out there in the middle of the sidewalk...with anyone listening...and they were... and no way Sara's dad "committed suicide"...

I am pretty sure Agent Mahoney is going to say Tweener had a gun and when he let Tweener out to pee he pulled out the gun. Then Mahoney put him down.

I had the same thought about the money but I just let it go just like so many things on this show.

A couple pages back I commented on how they have left the Chicago area but still say they are here and I said something else bothered me but I didn't remember what it was. Well now I remember.

The governors’ mansion in IL is in Springfield not Chicago. Springfield is the capital of IL not Chicago contrary to Prison Break belief.

I am pretty sure Agent Mahoney is going to say Tweener had a gun and when he let Tweener out to pee he pulled out the gun. Then Mahoney put him down.

I suspect it will be more of the "He wrestled my gun from me and I had to shoot him with my back-up."

Yeah the money buried in paper bags still intact after all those years in the damp ground...well I guess a little more plausible than a vet reattaching a severed hand left hours in a cooler....

Still I am fairly satisfied with the last few shows...it's getting good again.

I suspect it will be more of the "He wrestled my gun from me and I had to shoot him with my back-up."


Yeah HANDCUFFED he wrestled the gun away and went after him....the FBI guy is a sociopathic nut. But whom he really wants is Michael.

You know, that's what I thought at first: no way the money would still be any good; heck, it wouldn't even be recognizable, after being in the ground all those years. I rationalize it by thinking it was in a bag that they ripped open with their shovels. Sometimes you need a little of that to make it through the show and not yell at the screen. ;) :DOr a lot. ;) :)

I thought it was lame that when Mahoney shot Tweener he shot him right in front of his car and shot the car a few times for good measure. Doesn't that make it harder for him to explain away?
Since he knew he was going to shoot him when he pulled off the road, couldn't he have at least shot Tweener while facing away from the car?
Maybe Mahoney's over the edge and doesn't care about being exposed anymore. Otherwise it was just plain stupid for a trained FBI agent.Probably doesn't.

The guy has a good case for getting off easier claiming mental illness, that's for sure.

I thought from the first few episodes of this season that Mahoney would be the one to figure out what really is going on with the President, her brother & Linc. I sorta thought he'd be like Tommy Lee Jones' Sam Gerad in The Fugitive, looks like I'm way off since he blew Tweener away.

No show tonight because of baseball??

No show tonight because of baseball??

Correct, Next new ep is Oct 23th.

No, 1/2 Wrong. There is no new episode tonight, but there's an episode showing tonight. It's last weeks so in case you missed it you can catch it again or record it if you missed it the first time, due to unforeseen events.

No Baseball tonight. PB is a repeat though. New episode in 2 weeks...10/23

I thought from the first few episodes of this season that Mahoney would be the one to figure out what really is going on with the President, her brother & Linc. I sorta thought he'd be like Tommy Lee Jones' Sam Gerad in The Fugitive, looks like I'm way off since he blew Tweener away.


Yeah they're making this guy out to be a sociopathic loose cannon...I'm still shocked about Tweener...I didn't see that one coming until right before it did...

I am new here but I love PB and I would just like to mention Mahone shooting Tweener. The gun Mahone planted on Tweener hasn't even been fired, therefore no gun powder residue will be on Tweener's hands. And i thought Tweener would have at least have to fire once to give Mahone a good excuse to shoot him. Anyone agree with me here?

Nope. Having a gun would be more than enough reason to shoot him.

Abruzi held a gun, but they didnt shoot him until he began to raise it

You don't get gun powder residue from raising a gun.

I know that, im just saying that proves it wasnt shot

Anyone else amazed that these past few episodes take place in one day's time? Mahone sure knows how to teleport to anywhere in the country on a moments notice and the governor sure was able to get home quick to Chicago from Washington DC and 'kill himself' all before mid-afternoon! :p

Overall, the Mahoney killing is brilliant....now you really dont know who to really pull for? Who is in the right and who is in the wrong? Great stuff...

Although, with the amount of main characters getting killed off, this show will be hard pressed to have much of a cast past this year...

Easy to pick who to root for.

Good Guys: Scofield, death row brother, black guy.
Could go either way: Crazy DQ guy heading to Holland by raft via Lake Michigan
Bad Guys: US Government and all law enforcement, other escapees

I am new here but I love PB and I would just like to mention Mahone shooting Tweener. The gun Mahone planted on Tweener hasn't even been fired, therefore no gun powder residue will be on Tweener's hands. And i thought Tweener would have at least have to fire once to give Mahone a good excuse to shoot him. Anyone agree with me here?


i partially agree but this psychopath will weasel his way out of it...also Tweener was in hand cuffs...but also agree that just pointing a gun at an agent is justification to shot...however, if they really look hard enough they could probably tell that the finger/palm prints on the gun are not consistent with it being held in the "ready to fire" position..

Easy to pick who to root for.

Good Guys: Scofield, death row brother, black guy.
Could go either way: Crazy DQ guy heading to Holland by raft via Lake Michigan
Bad Guys: US Government and all law enforcement, other escapees


I think I agree with the poster (sorry cannot remember who) who said that at the end of the series Michael must die because his actions caused harm and death to innocent people...indirectly...I think (hopefully at least 2 seasons from now or more) that Lincoln will be exonerated because of Michael's efforts and Micheal will be somehow killed....Michael is by far my favorite character.

Is anyone else tired of the "Lincoln's son" plotline? I could care less about that kid.

Sorry couldn't find original quote so copied it from someone else but this....

Originally Posted by CPanther95
Easy to pick who to root for.

Good Guys: Scofield, death row brother, black guy.
Could go either way: Crazy DQ guy heading to Holland by raft via Lake Michigan
Bad Guys: US Government and all law enforcement, other escapees

Anyways where does sucre fit into this? I know when we last saw him he appeared to have lost his mind but i read somewhere (cant remember where) that this may be some secret plan he and scofield have to get rid of T-Bay and C-Note.

Anyone any thoughts???

Just realised my mistake, meant T-Bag but you all know that :) :) :)

Knew as soon as Mahone confessed his drug habit to Tweener that Tweener was a goner. No way Mahone lets him live with that info. Tweener should've recognized that right away.

Just realised my mistake, meant T-Bag but you all know that :) :) :)


We knew... :) Darn baseball and pre-emption! And my team got out very early..I am ready for Michael and the boys to return....

Knew as soon as Mahone confessed his drug habit to Tweener that Tweener was a goner. No way Mahone lets him live with that info. Tweener should've recognized that right away.


Yeah I kinda thought that too...but then I thought maybe Mahone was trying to draw him in...and get Tweener to give the info...because the crazy FBI guy could always deny it...Tweener was kind of stupid...but harmless. Him being blown away like that was disturbing.

How did T-bag get all of those magazines? To weigh as much as 5 million dollars would take a hundred or so. Hmm. Were they in boxes in the garage? I missed that part.

You mean NO ONE else in the garage kept an eye on the bag with the money? You're kidding me. Didn't they just get through packing the money inside the bag?

You mean to tell me that Sucre didn't even LOOk in the bag until he met Michael at the river? Wow.

Now why did Sucre walk on the logs? Wasn't the idea to "cross" the river? He didn't want to get . . . leeches? How long did the writers work on that one?

Aw, yes. . . the convenient "rope" by the shore.

Remind me again how these criminals being chased by dozens of officers and dogs who are within a few hundred feet of them can't catch them.

Hey, why not use the "bug spray in the eyes" technique? Yep.

Sara is stupider than I thought. Obviously the guy she called was in on her attempted murder. How did she think the guys got there?

Burrows is sure a master at entering and exiting hospitals and court houses without ANY security finding him. He can just walk into the hospital room. Even the FBI couldn't do that.

Now, really. . . Would T-bag with 5 million dollars really go back to that woman's house -- the ONE place the authorities would think about staking out? That's the only place connection that T-bag had. Right.

Other than that, I enjoyed the show. I'm looking forward to next week

I have a feeling he's not going to try and take any of these guys alive. He was reprimanded for not taking abruzzi down BEFORE he went into the hotel room. By doing so he made it a standoff, instead of a straight up takedown.





Ok, so I called that one (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8568508&highlight=iteki+alive#post8568508) ...didn't figure him for a straight up government assassin though...I thought he was a career FBI agent. Interesting.

How did T-bag get all of those magazines? To weigh as much as 5 million dollars would take a hundred or so. Hmm. Were they in boxes in the garage? I missed that part.

Yes, he was sorting through the magazines while everyone else dug their hole. C-Note yelled at him about it in a previous episode.

Ok, so I called that one (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8568508&highlight=iteki+alive#post8568508) ...didn't figure him for a straight up government assassin though...I thought he was a career FBI agent. Interesting.

He is an FBI agent, but is mentally unstable. The real baddies (Kellerman, et.al.) are using that to blackmail him into doing their bidding.

How the heck is Michael going to catch up with T-Bag before everybody else, now including Billick?

He is an FBI agent, but is mentally unstable. The real baddies (Kellerman, et.al.) are using that to blackmail him into doing their bidding.

How the heck is Michael going to catch up with T-Bag before everybody else, now including Billick?

I bet Billick gets to T-bag first and takes the money. Michael will somehow find out about that and go after Billick for the money.

Untill we saw Kellerman in the car, I was sure that Kellerman was going to "flip" and help out the good doctor to exonerate Linclon.

Untill we saw Kellerman in the car, I was sure that Kellerman was going to "flip" and help out the good doctor to exonerate Linclon.

No way. One thing we can be sure about with Kellerman: he's reliably evil. :p

He is an FBI agent, but is mentally unstable. The real baddies (Kellerman, et.al.) are using that to blackmail him into doing their bidding.

How the heck is Michael going to catch up with T-Bag before everybody else, now including Billick?


CAREER FBI agent, not some Spec Ops guy who has been handed a badge and given a job to do with a specific agenda. This is the first time we've heard about his background, and it AINT in law enforcement.

I like how Linc is always sweating, and with the open shirt, and the two day beard. That way nobody will look at him when he's trying to hide.

I like how Linc is always sweating, and with the open shirt, and the two day beard. That way nobody will look at him when he's trying to hide.
:D Exactly. Actually, what has become the draw for me in continuing to watch this cartoon is to see just how preposterous each new episode is. Taken on that level, it's great fun. And you cannot tell me that the powers-that-be at FOX aren't aware of this as well. :rolleyes:

T-bag's vet attached hand still has me going :rolleyes:

CAREER FBI agent, not some Spec Ops guy who has been handed a badge and given a job to do with a specific agenda. This is the first time we've heard about his background, and it AINT in law enforcement.

I'm still confused about this--we know that he does have FBI background due to the whole "Oscar Shayles" thing. And the Internal Affairs guy knew him, so he had to have been in the FBI for at least awhile. I don't think this manhunt was his first assignment, in other words.

T-bag's vet attached hand still has me going :rolleyes:


And it appears as good as new now. And how long ago did he have it attached?

I like how Linc is always sweating, and with the open shirt, and the two day beard. That way nobody will look at him when he's trying to hide.
And the car he's driving hasn't been reported stolen? And he's driven it all the way to from north Utah to Arizona? And he's still driving it after he gets LJ?

What about T-Bag walking down the street with a huge duffel bag and nobody sees him? Weren't the sirens already going when they left?

It takes Michael until Sucre is just about drowning to notice the rope laying on the shore?

There are so many plot holes with this show you just have to ignore them in order to enjoy it.

There are so many plot holes with this show you just have to ignore them in order to enjoy it.
Thats getting increasingly difficult to do. The first season was done so well that this season pales in comparison. The number and size of those plot holes really makes me think twice about coming back each week.

And it appears as good as new now. And how long ago did he have it attached?

To be fair, in the last episode he did talk about going to Bangkok and having a black market surgeon sew him on a new hand because that one "wasn't taking". To which the others pointed out that a new hand he got there probably wouldn't be white.

As far as illogical things going on in the show, the one that consistently gets me is how quickly everyone travels across the country and back. Weren't Bellick and his partner still in Illinois? Then they rent a car and suddenly are in Utah 10 minutes later!

Thats getting increasingly difficult to do. The first season was done so well that this season pales in comparison. The number and size of those plot holes really makes me think twice about coming back each week.
I'm all about snarking at this show. That's what makes it fun to watch. I just about lost it when the rope appeared at the shore of the river as if God Himself had placed it there at the last moment to save Sucre.

I was irritated at T-Bag's ridiculous hand replacement but after his "Yes, I recently had some work done" line, I've accepted this show does have a sense of humor about itself. That's better than 24 which really wants to be taken seriously every single minute no matter how funny it is.

Thats getting increasingly difficult to do. The first season was done so well that this season pales in comparison. The number and size of those plot holes really makes me think twice about coming back each week.
I come back every week, and will continue to do so, I just don't think about it anymore, I just enjoy the ride, however silly it gets. :)

I come back every week, and will continue to do so, I just don't think about it anymore, I just enjoy the ride, however silly it gets. :)

It must be that wine country attitude. I agree entirely. Relax and have some fun......

It must be that wine country attitude. I agree entirely. Relax and have some fun......
Yup, this is a good BBQ'ed spare-ribs and Zinfandel show. :D

Yeah, the show has a sense of humor about itself. They definitely are not serious about it. If you want something closer to reality watch the Discovery channel :p

I'm not the big fan of the show, but I enjoy it when I watch it.

Wow, judging by the lack of discussion of the show this year, that does not bode well.

It's the same story each week now. Guy almost gets caught, police let him get away. Another guy almost gets caught. Another guy gets caught. Somewhere in there, they throw in a twist.

I'm still watching, but it was just so much better last season when there was an overall goal in place with the prison as the backdrop. Last year, it was one of the shows I was most excited to see each week, this year, not even close.

I'm convinced that the writers had no expectations of this being a hit and that they had no framework of a season 2 planned out.

I don't see this show making it to a season 3.

How far down are the ratings this season?

Is there a hiatus coming up? There was a really long break around this time last year.

Yeah, I actually saw that one coming. Remember when he was in his backyard, staring at the birdbath? I have a feeling that's where he buried that first guy.



Iteki gets another one right...now if only my clones theory can pan out... :-)

:(

My local station WFFF who just went on the air Saturday didn't show it in HD.

Is there a hiatus coming up? There was a really long break around this time last year.

We just had the hiatus for the MLB postseason. IIRC, two of the Monday nights blocked out for games ended up not having games, so there were reruns of the show for two of the weeks of the hiatus.

If memory serves, last year there was an even longer break in the winter, when Fox shows nothing but American Idol for weeks on end. (Is it just me, or is it really not that amusing to watch one or two talented people emerge from amid thousands making fools of themselves? I just don't see the appeal of it, and certainly don't get why they show it every day.)

I'll give the show through November to convince me why I should keep watching. If they can't come up with something compelling for sweeps, I don't care anymore...
-JMP

i still want to know how this is connected with Scofields father....

We just had the hiatus for the MLB postseason. IIRC, two of the Monday nights blocked out for games ended up not having games, so there were reruns of the show for two of the weeks of the hiatus.

If memory serves, last year there was an even longer break in the winter, when Fox shows nothing but American Idol for weeks on end. (Is it just me, or is it really not that amusing to watch one or two talented people emerge from amid thousands making fools of themselves? I just don't see the appeal of it, and certainly don't get why they show it every day.)

I'll give the show through November to convince me why I should keep watching. If they can't come up with something compelling for sweeps, I don't care anymore...
-JMP

I think we won't have too many breaks/re runs. This show ends and then 24 begins, so there won't be TOO big a gap?

i still want to know how this is connected with Scofields father....

Great question, and one of the many questions that need to be answered...

I wonder if the writers even know how he is connected?? So many holes in this show...I sometimes wonder if they know what the hell is going on!

i still want to know how this is connected with Scofields father....

That's the ONLY thing keeping me Tivo'ing this show -- the 24 type conspiracy. Unfortunately, this show is becoming way too predictable -- every week Michael or Linc in an IMPOSSIBLE situation and then RIDICULOUS (non-plausible, illogical) reasons for escape...

Can't wait to see how Linc and son "escape" next show!!! :eek:

^^I disagree...Prison Break has much better character development than 24, which has just as many ridiculous stretches. In Prison Break, you truly almost cheer for Abruzzi, or Tweener, yet they are convicts...even TBag, while evil as all hell, has that likeability about him...

You are almost rooting for his continual escape.

As for Lincoln and Micheal - superior casting and characters.

Wow, judging by the lack of discussion of the show this year, that does not bode well.

It's the same story each week now. Guy almost gets caught, police let him get away. Another guy almost gets caught. Another guy gets caught. Somewhere in there, they throw in a twist.

I'm still watching, but it was just so much better last season when there was an overall goal in place with the prison as the backdrop. Last year, it was one of the shows I was most excited to see each week, this year, not even close.

I'm convinced that the writers had no expectations of this being a hit and that they had no framework of a season 2 planned out.

I don't see this show making it to a season 3.

How far down are the ratings this season?

Is there a hiatus coming up? There was a really long break around this time last year.

Gotta disagree....I think season 2 is just as strong as season 1...the FBI agent is a great add, as is his whole story.

I believe ratings are still fairly strong... I believe this is a top 40 show...which means FOX will go with it as long as they can....I believe around 8-9 M viewers per week and very strong in the younger demo.

And being an NFC football fan, FOX promotes the hell out this show (along with House) during every commercial on Sundays.

Yes, it has been a little predictable, but man, its still my top must see show behind LOST....

Cmon guys, lets not knock the plot holes and stretches...I like 24 too, and to me, those plot holes a much bigger.

But man, these shows are an intense ride every week.

Even Wentworth Miller said last year its written more in a comic book style....pure entertaiment...not reality.

Cmon guys, lets not knock the plot holes and stretches...I like 24 too, and to me, those plot holes a much bigger.

But man, these shows are an intense ride every week.

Even Wentworth Miller said last year its written more in a comic book style....pure entertaiment...not reality.

Very well said and couldn't agree with you more I love this show.

You are almost rooting for his continual escape.
That's because of the huge conspiracy. Everyone trying to catch these guys are idiots or are pure evil-doers in high positions in the government. We tend to think this is worse than a few two-bit criminals on the run.

I want more Haywire!

I want more Haywire!

Seriously!

In the time since he set sail for Holland on Lake Michigan, enough stuff has gone on with the others that surely he would have landed somewhere by now (or died of starvation/cold in the middle of the lake). Any guesses as to where he'll turn up? It would be mildly ironic if he ended up drifting north and ended up being the first to actually make it out of the country...
-JMP

^^I disagree...Prison Break has much better character development than 24, which has just as many ridiculous stretches. In Prison Break, you truly almost cheer for Abruzzi, or Tweener, yet they are convicts...even TBag, while evil as all hell, has that likeability about him...

You are almost rooting for his continual escape.

As for Lincoln and Micheal - superior casting and characters.


T-Bag is evil as hell, but a fascinating character -- and I felt sorry for him being tortured tonight... :confused:

I love 24 so I don't mind the little implausibilities about Prison Break. Compared to most of what is out there, it is a great show.

I believe ratings are still fairly strong... I believe this is a top 40 show...which means FOX will go with it as long as they can....I believe around 8-9 M viewers per week and very strong in the younger demo.




And when it is back to back with 24, the viewers pour in...24 comes back in Jan.

And it appears as good as new now. And how long ago did he have it attached?

I'll bet my bottom dollar when the cops come running in T-Bag will be gone and his hand will still be attached to the radiator.

On second thought he would probably take it with him.

I'll bet my bottom dollar when the cops come running in T-Bag will be gone and his hand will still be attached to the radiator.

On second thought he would probably take it with him.

I bet he will take it. There has to be a good vet near by.

I'll bet my bottom dollar when the cops come running in T-Bag will be gone and his hand will still be attached to the radiator.

On second thought he would probably take it with him.

I agree....he's definitely going to detach that hand somehow. He's shown that he can handle a lot of pain, after all.

I missed the last part of the episode after the part where the Doc was bandaging up Michael's arm, because I was using the "chase play" on my Sony DVR and was fast forwarding on a commercial break when the hard drive froze up on me. The "record" light was still on, but it wasn't actually still recording.

If anyone can tell me what went down after that, I'd greatly appreciate it (using "spoiler alert" might be prudent, in case anyone it would matter to hasn't seen the episode yet).

You can get recaps here
http://www.fox.com/prisonbreak/recaps/

I bet he will take it. There has to be a good vet near by.
He won't need a vet. He'll just sew his paw back on himself just like how he saw the vet do it the last time. That's why he wanted to be conscious!

from spoiler fix.com

Episode 2.13: The Killing Box (Fall Finale)
Airdate: November 27, 2006

Looks like it heads off air later this month...

Looks like it heads off air later this month...

Fox's ads are now saying that we're entering "the last three episodes." Is "of this season" implied, or is this season all we're going to get?
-JMP

It will probably start back up again in January like it did with season 1.

and I am continually amazed at the fabulous PQ! If this is not the best looking HD show on TV, I don't know what is. Why can't more be as good as this one? Lost is also very good, and another great show as well.

My wife has instituted a ban on my griping about the shows ridiculous inconsistancies. :D

I took one of this thread's poster's advice last night and just watched the show as a "comic book." That helped a lot...

...especially with the way the characters just teleport from place to place almost immediately...how Scofield managed to catch his breath in the alleyway after robbing the town's general store and assaulting it's owner (with a witness inside)...how both Scofield and the evil Fed had to walk to the GPS location, but the latinos just drove right up in their truck...how Lincoln could hear the shell drop to the floor, but totally missed the tell-tale sound of the silenced pistol shooting 2 individuals...

:D

Actually, the T-bag scenes, and the 3 hookers balking at what the double-crosser wanted to do...not to mention their outfits...made up for all that and then some.

how Lincoln could hear the shell drop to the floor, but totally missed the tell-tale sound of the silenced pistol shooting 2 individuals...

:D


That cracked me up...silencers aren't really silent, they just reduce the velocity of the bullet so it doesn't crack the sound barrier, etc. But you would still hear the action of the weapon and the pfht! It reminded me of the Three Musketeers movie, where Michael York is fast asleep during a kidnapping next door...he sleeps through screams, crashes, cries for help, etc. After all is said and done a drop of water from the ceiling hits the floor and he wakes up instantly :-)



Actually, the T-bag scenes, and the 3 hookers balking at what the double-crosser wanted to do...not to mention their outfits...made up for all that and then some.

That cracked me up..."I'll walk you through it...and there's a glass table right here" Must have been nasty if those crack whores wouldn't do it lol

...especially with the way the characters just teleport from place to place almost immediately....
No kidding. I'm hoping the show won't let us down and the first thing we see next week is Michael charging through the door to save the doc. :D

No kidding. I'm hoping the show won't let us down and the first thing we see next week is Michael charging through the door to save the doc. :D

And then he teleports back to help Lincoln and his "dad" deal with Mahone?

That cracked me up..."I'll walk you through it...and there's a glass table right here" Must have been nasty if those crack whores wouldn't do it lol

He was referring to a Cleveland Steamer.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cleveland+steamer

He was referring to a Cleveland Steamer.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cleveland+steamer


LOL what a sicko

To set the reocrd straight those wern't "crack Whores" they were escorts.

Huge difference.

To set the reocrd straight those wern't "crack Whores" they were escorts.

Huge difference.

LOL ok Huggy Bear

......especially with the way the characters just teleport from place to place almost immediately...how Scofield managed to catch his breath in the alleyway after robbing the town's general store and assaulting it's owner (with a witness inside)...how both Scofield and the evil Fed had to walk to the GPS location, but the latinos just drove right up in their truck...how Lincoln could hear the shell drop to the floor, but totally missed the tell-tale sound of the silenced pistol shooting 2 individuals.
...What you're saying is that you want to watch the filler material where we see uninteresting scenes where nothing is happening while the character(s) is riding in a car, a train, an airplane, etc. Those scenes cost money and time. Thus program already seems to be spending a rather larger location budget. No need to push it any higher.

I would agree that some time line info would help (time stamps).

Scofield had to walk because he didn't have his own transportatation. The Fed may have wanted to walk to sneak up on the location. Although it would have been nice if he had actually pulled off the road. A car completely blocking a lane is likely to draw attention.

As far as the shell dropping, Lincoln may have heard the silenced shots in the background during parts of the conversation that we did not hearing. He may not have ever heard a silenced piston in person. They might appear to him as background noise to him in a house filled with fancy gadgets. The shell dropped during a momemtary break in conversation.

Having said all that I agree - it would be better to edit so these issues didn't come up. Part of the problem may be that there appears to be very little dead time on screen. The expository scenes may get edited out to fit in 60 (or 61) minutes. If that''s the case, the supervising producer needs to get a better handle on the scripts.

As far as the shell dropping, Lincoln may have heard the silenced shots in the background during parts of the conversation that we did not hearing. He may not have ever heard a silenced piston in person. They might appear to him as background noise to him in a house filled with fancy gadgets. The shell dropped during a momemtary break in conversation.



Having Linc hear the shell drop makes him look all streetwise and wary. Unfortunately, I can almost guarantee that the action from the pistol was likely louder than the shell dropping. Not to mention a 225lb security man falling to the ground. :-)

Having Linc hear the shell drop makes him look all streetwise and wary. Unfortunately, I can almost guarantee that the action from the pistol was likely louder than the shell dropping. Not to mention a 225lb security man falling to the ground. :-)

I was wondering if the guy that was shot was also fitted with a silencer to muffle his scream from being shot at !! It wasn't a headshot to drop him without even a cry of pain. :rolleyes:

Again, T-Bag (supposedly) killed a large guy not just one handed, but having chewed off that hand hours before. If the big guy had any brains, he would have told T-Bag the money wasn't there instead of trying to bargin with the one-handed angry man. And if you're going to kill someone, please shut the door so you won't disturb other guests with the screaming and slashing and whatnot.

The hotel suites I've been in have room safes the size of small refrigerators, big enough to put most if not all of that cash someplace where the cleaning lady won't find it.

Fox's ads are now saying that we're entering "the last three episodes." Is "of this season" implied, or is this season all we're going to get?
-JMP
I distinctly heard "of this (or the) fall season".