About time Bill Kim got his @ss kicked! I think that has to be one of the highlights of the season so far!


I agree. He is evil to the core! :D

I believe he was referring to the fact that Ben Franklin was involved in the slave trade (and owned slaves himself) for much of his life. He became an abolitionist towards the end though.

That was my thinking when I posted and it was probably over the top.

I think the first season of PB was excellent in plot and character development. I think it lost something this season, but the last couple of episodes have been pretty good. But I do think they're making T-Bag melt down just a little too much.

Wow has everyone given up already? I do think this season is lackluster but I'm still watching. Sorry to see Franklin go but definitely glad they're whiddling away the annoying side stories. Tea Bag is just a mess of a character this year and he's gone from interesting villain to annoying side plot. I hope he's done soon.

I'm still watching. T-Bag I agree has gone too far over the line; he was an interesting intellectual evil character prior to the break out. Now he seems totally out of control. I was tiring of the side plots and glad they are whittling them down. This week's show was basically pretty good. Only 3 episodes left. I think the President is about to be assassinated. And with her death, the "Presidential Pardon" goes out the window. They won't have her to blackmail.

I'm still watching. T-Bag I agree has gone too far over the line; he was an interesting intellectual evil character prior to the break out. Now he seems totally out of control. I was tiring of the side plots and glad they are whittling them down. This week's show was basically pretty good. Only 3 episodes left. I think the President is about to be assassinated. And with her death, the "Presidential Pardon" goes out the window. They won't have her to blackmail.

It was a pretty good ep...Pres. is likely to die (she has another show anyway)...I'd like to see SOMEONE get away free by the end. My $$ is on Linc and Sucre. Michael doesn't deserve freedom, too many people have suffered as a result of his breaking cons out.

Sorry to see Franklin go but definitely glad they're whiddling away the annoying side stories.

Are we 100% sure that Franklin is dead? My prediction is no--my guess is that a guard will walk by and rescue him. He just seems like too good of a character--and they can't ALL get killed, can they?

It was a pretty good ep...Pres. is likely to die (she has another show anyway)...I'd like to see SOMEONE get away free by the end. My $$ is on Linc and Sucre. Michael doesn't deserve freedom, too many people have suffered as a result of his breaking cons out.


Michael is a good person with a conscience. The only way he can "atone" for all those who have died (mostly by virtue of letting T-Bag out) is that Michael himself will die in the last episode of the last season. I don't see Michael getting out of this alive, free and being able to go on with his "normal" life. I do however think Linc will live.

I still don't trust ANYONE that Linc, Sarah and Michael are dealing with right now...who IS the guy they thought was "the other guy"..the one who didn't get the asthma inhaler answer right...

Are we 100% sure that Franklin is dead? My prediction is no--my guess is that a guard will walk by and rescue him. He just seems like too good of a character--and they can't ALL get killed, can they?


He is a pretty good and I hope he's not dead either. He should have just ratted out crazy FBI man. Everyone around him thinks he's a loose canon anyway...

So what was the problem with the audio file that they couldn't use it in court? The creation/modified date was after the president's brother died? How's that possible since the thumb drive had been sitting in a humidor since Sara's dad was murdered? Unless someone did a "Save As" since they got the drive from the humidor I don't get it. I guess it's just another detail that wasn't very well thought out.

The most interesting twist to date is that Mahone is getting suspicious that Linc is actually innocent. He seems to be finding his conscience. I'll be interested to see where that takes him in the last 4 episodes.

So what was the problem with the audio file that they couldn't use it in court? The creation/modified date was after the president's brother died? How's that possible since the thumb drive had been sitting in a humidor since Sara's dad was murdered? Unless someone did a "Save As" since they got the drive from the humidor I don't get it. I guess it's just another detail that wasn't very well thought out.

They lost me on the "save date" issue as well.


The most interesting twist to date is that Mahone is getting suspicious that Linc is actually innocent. He seems to be finding his conscience. I'll be interested to see where that takes him in the last 4 episodes.

He seemed to find his conscience when his child was assaulted and he saw Franklin's child in danger as well. There was a noticeable softening of his character at that point.

What was ridiculous for me in the last episode was T-bag's murder of the Psychologist/Psychiatrist/aw-screw-it..."therapist." Did he not have a receptionist? Anyone else that knew he had a patient and who that patient was?

Would T-bag then be able to use his passport and, I'm assuming, credit card to fly anywhere? If so, wouldn't that leave a trail of where he was going?

Granted, I don't think those questions will matter since he's obviously on a collision course with Bellick...who will be particularly ornery since he didn't get his in-flight meal. :D

So what was the problem with the audio file that they couldn't use it in court? The creation/modified date was after the president's brother died? How's that possible since the thumb drive had been sitting in a humidor since Sara's dad was murdered? Unless someone did a "Save As" since they got the drive from the humidor I don't get it. I guess it's just another detail that wasn't very well thought out.
I don't get that one, either. The original creation date is always in the system properties. While the "Last Modified" date might be later, the "Created" date wouldn't change. The main properties might change to reflect a copied file, but the advanced properties would retain those of the original file. That's the reason you can "self-copyright" a work and prove you created it first. I guess it's another one of those Hollywood computer rules...

So what was the problem with the audio file that they couldn't use it in court? The creation/modified date was after the president's brother died? How's that possible since the thumb drive had been sitting in a humidor since Sara's dad was murdered? Unless someone did a "Save As" since they got the drive from the humidor I don't get it. I guess it's just another detail that wasn't very well thought out.

(disregarding the point NetworkTV made above) It wouldn't be that the date of the copy was after he died it was the fact that they couldn't prove the original was made after he supposedly was killed.

(disregarding the point NetworkTV made above) It wouldn't be that the date of the copy was after he died it was the fact that they couldn't prove the original was made after he supposedly was killed.
Exactly. For the benefit of the show, that makes the recording useless. In the world of that show, only the duplication date was available. While not realistic, that's how they are playing it in the show.

Maybe sometime later, some Gil Grissom type will show up and do some kind of digital forensics to show there is some "underlying bit signature" that proves when it was orginally made in order to authenticate it and make the process seem more complicated than it really is. Otherwise, the plotpoint of the audio file served only to fill time in this season.

Either that, or they'll have to jaunt off after the orginal file...

So what was the problem with the audio file that they couldn't use it in court? The creation/modified date was after the president's brother died? How's that possible since the thumb drive had been sitting in a humidor since Sara's dad was murdered? Unless someone did a "Save As" since they got the drive from the humidor I don't get it. I guess it's just another detail that wasn't very well thought out.

The most interesting twist to date is that Mahone is getting suspicious that Linc is actually innocent. He seems to be finding his conscience. I'll be interested to see where that takes him in the last 4 episodes.


I think they stated it was a "copy" and that the date stamp reflected the time it was copied not the original date recorded. I don't trust that guy either. He could be lying about that. I also found it interesting that Mahone had a twinge of conscience that Linc is innocent but it won't override him "having" to kill Michael to get "The Company" off his back. But he is very deluded if he thinks Kim is going to let him live after this. He knows almost everything.

Would T-bag then be able to use his passport and, I'm assuming, credit card to fly anywhere? If so, wouldn't that leave a trail of where he was going?



He only needs that ID temporarily since he has that bag of money and intends to "get lost" upon landing. Except, yes, Bellick is begging for peanuts riding in coach while T-bag is sipping champagne in first class :D I am pretty sure they are going to meet up :eek:

My biggest problem plot-wise was with the guy's secretary. She obviously works for Kim and re-routed Michael's call, but when she sees Sarah Tancretti come in to meet the real guy, she doesn't pass on the word so Kim can have her followed to their hotel room?

My biggest problem plot-wise was with the guy's secretary. She obviously works for Kim and re-routed Michael's call, but when she sees Sarah Tancretti come in to meet the real guy, she doesn't pass on the word so Kim can have her followed to their hotel room?


Or the phones are tapped. Who knows. Anything is possible with Prison Break. I still don't trust anyone's "identity" from the last episode. The guy who is "helping" them may well be against them.

If the phones were tapped, it wouldn't explain how his call was transferred to the fake guy.

If the phones were tapped, it wouldn't explain how his call was transferred to the fake guy.


I'm getting confused with all the fake people :confused:

I forget the name of the "guy they can trust with the info". The fake guy was the one that got wet in the fountain - the real one analyzed the recording.

I forget the name of the "guy they can trust with the info". The fake guy was the one that got wet in the fountain - the real one analyzed the recording.


How do we know the "new" real guy is not fake too??? :confused: I would not trust anyone with that info!

He only needs that ID temporarily since he has that bag of money and intends to "get lost" upon landing.

Can you even pay cash for a flight? For some reason, I think it has to be on a credit card, or at least secured with a credit card, just like hotel room reservations.

I forget the name of the "guy they can trust with the info". The fake guy was the one that got wet in the fountain - the real one analyzed the recording.

Conner Green?

My biggest problem plot-wise was with the guy's secretary. She obviously works for Kim and re-routed Michael's call, but when she sees Sarah Tancretti come in to meet the real guy, she doesn't pass on the word so Kim can have her followed to their hotel room?

I thought the receptionist's ears perked up when she heard Sarah's name. Do we really know already that as soon as they left the office that she didn't call Kim? I have to watch that part again to see what happened I guess.

Also, why are they dragging out what is on the recording until next week. Is it going to be that much of a surprise that they couldn't let us hear it when they were listening to it one of the two times this past episode?

Can you even pay cash for a flight? For some reason, I think it has to be on a credit card, or at least secured with a credit card, just like hotel room reservations.

OP meant that TBag was living in style and the Guard was stuck in coach eating peanuts. He likely used the dead therapists credit card, and would ditch the identity as soon as he got into Mexico, as he had plenty of cash. He just needed out of the country.

OP meant that TBag was living in style and the Guard was stuck in coach eating peanuts. He likely used the dead therapists credit card, and would ditch the identity as soon as he got into Mexico, as he had plenty of cash. He just needed out of the country.

I thought he was going to Bangkok.

I thought he was going to Bangkok.

I have no doubt that is his final destination, but being on the same plane as the guard, and we know the guard is going to Mexico...

Can you even pay cash for a flight? For some reason, I think it has to be on a credit card, or at least secured with a credit card, just like hotel room reservations.
You can pay cash if you buy the ticket at the counter. You can even make a reservation through a travel agent with cash. Since you're presenting ID, there is no honor bar, the phones on board require a credit card and drinks require cash up front, there's no reason for the airlines to not accept cash - especially for flights leaving the country since your passport even verifies your reservation along with your identity. Now, cash on an incoming flight might raise some eyebrows...along with carrying a big backpack full of cash and spilling it on the floor in frint of the ticket agent.

A credit card is only needed for online or phone transactions or in a situation where you might ring up extra charges and bolt - like in a hotel. It's hard to "dine and dash" on an airplane since that first step outside is a big one...

Even motels and hotels will take cash - however, they usually photocopy your license so they can find you if you trash the room or order a lot of porn before sneaking out the back door.

I thought he was going to Bangkok.

Remember the ticket agent telling him it wasn't a direct route; appears he's got to go through Mexico. Something tells me somebody's going to be losing his luggage, too, and the ramp-rat who saw all the cash when the bag dropped open (you think T-bag would have had that thing zipped up tight, perhaps even locked) may be a likely suspect.

(you think T-bag would have had that thing zipped up tight, perhaps even locked)

Or, since he's a millionaire, bought a halfway decent bag in which to carry it. Not the one in which it was originally transported.

When that bag opened up from an 18" drop and the cash fell out, I would've though he'd take a little more time to make sure it was closed up real good before turning it over. He better hope they don't treat that bag the same way they usually do.

That bag scene reminded me of the Stanley Kubrick moving the Killing where at the end Sterling Hayden checks his suitcase full of money and on the tarmac it drops off the luggage cart and blows the money all over the place... Maybe that'll happen next week on PB.

I guess we gotta remember that t-bag wasn't able to seal his bag up "real good" considering he's basically a one-armed man. :D

I guess we gotta remember that t-bag wasn't able to seal his bag up "real good" considering he's basically a one-armed man. :D

Well, considering all the other stuff he manages to do with just one arm, especially killing folks, you'd think sealing up that bag would be one of his easier tasks. :p

He's got the perfect finger for tying a bow - no knuckles to snag on the string....

Poor T-bag, can murder folks one-handed but can't secure his moneybag ...

Anybody else find themselves wondering how they "do" T-bag's hand FX during the course of watching the show?

Ya think it's just a prosthetic hand that he's "holding" just above the shirtsleeve cuff, or is he maybe wearing a thick latex glove apparatus over his actual hand, instead?

Ya think it's just a prosthetic hand that he's "holding" just above the shirtsleeve cuff, or is he maybe wearing a thick latex glove apparatus over his actual hand, instead?

I have it on good authority that he actually cut off his hand so as to better immerse himself in the role. That's known as "method acting". And those thespians who merely gain or lose weight, or cut their hair for a role - what wusses. :D

Yep, t-bag is definitely one tough mutha.

Will this show end in four more episodes or does it return next season?

Will this show end in four more episodes or does it return next season?


It returns next season.

Can you even pay cash for a flight? For some reason, I think it has to be on a credit card, or at least secured with a credit card, just like hotel room reservations.


He used the credit card for the flight. No one knew the guy was dead yet. Remember he had to show "his" ID. He didn't pack that money very well with it falling out of the duffel bag! :D :rolleyes:

I find it funny that it's only supposed to be a few months since the breakout, but none of the escapees even bother trying to cover up their faces out in public anymore. I guess they're hoping that Americans have short attention spans.

I find it funny that it's only supposed to be a few months since the breakout, but none of the escapees even bother trying to cover up their faces out in public anymore. I guess they're hoping that Americans have short attention spans.

That's because their faces are no longer in the news. The news is now all about Anna Nicole Smith..... :)

It returns next season.
Please show the source for this!

Please show the source for this!


Wishful thinking :)

!!!!!

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/04/214929.php

That is great that it coming back I like it with 24 right behind it on Monday nights

That is great that it coming back I like it with 24 right behind it on Monday nights


I love that! It makes Monday night something to look forward to! :D Hey, it's Monday! Wonder what trouble the boys are going to get themselves into tonight? :confused: That preview with Kim and Michael..."If you want to live another hour you'd better tell me where your brother is..."

I love that! It makes Monday night something to look forward to! :D Hey, it's Monday! Wonder what trouble the boys are going to get themselves into tonight? :confused: That preview with Kim and Michael..."If you want to live another hour you'd better tell me where your brother is..."

Yes it does make Monday tolerable looking forward to these shows. I just set up the HR20 and hope it records both I may have to record on another box to make sure I get them. I think Prison Break only has a few weeks left and then it is done for the season which sucks.

Yes it does make Monday tolerable looking forward to these shows. I just set up the HR20 and hope it records both I may have to record on another box to make sure I get them. I think Prison Break only has a few weeks left and then it is done for the season which sucks.


Good luck with the recording. I think this is the 3rd episode from the end of this season for Prison Break. Thank goodness we still have Jack Bauer! :)

Good luck with the recording. I think this is the 3rd episode from the end of this season for Prison Break. Thank goodness we still have Jack Bauer! :)

Well both recorded without a hitch. I liked both shows but I have to say they really are pushing the envelope with some of these story lines being so far fetched but I just look at as entertainment and try not to get aggravated like others when things just aren't realalistic.

Questions from last night's episode:

1. Who's the bald guy in the car that Bill Kim went to talk to? I know he's been in a couple of episodes before but I don't think he's said very much in any of them. Are we supposed to know who he is or is it still a mystery?

2. What is or who is SONA? That was the label on the file the bald guy was looking at when Bill Kim got in the car.

I really thought that the president was going to agree to pardon them and then get shot by Kellerman as she left the building. Either way, same effect.

2. What is or who is SONA? That was the label on the file the bald guy was looking at when Bill Kim got in the car.



That will be revealed sometime in April

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sona_(Prison_Break_episode)

Well both recorded without a hitch. I liked both shows but I have to say they really are pushing the envelope with some of these story lines being so far fetched but I just look at as entertainment and try not to get aggravated like others when things just aren't realalistic.


I just accept it and sit back and enjoy.... :)

I just accept it and sit back and enjoy.... :)

See you are not only a cute geek but a smart one as well.

That will be revealed sometime in April

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sona_(Prison_Break_episode)

Thanks.

Questions from last night's episode:

1. Who's the bald guy in the car that Bill Kim went to talk to? I know he's been in a couple of episodes before but I don't think he's said very much in any of them. Are we supposed to know who he is or is it still a mystery?

-snip-



I don't think it really makes any difference who the bald guy is. :)

It seems that most if not all the FOX shows of this type subscribe to the same school of scriptwriting: YALOE (yet another level of evil). When one subplot starts to run out of steam (e.g. almost any season of 24 and the scenario under discussion here) the writers introduce either another "evil organization" or "horrible threat".

With "24", Jack catches one terrorist only to find out that the REAL threat is from HIS boss, (yet) ANOTHER terrorist with even a BIGGER bomb. With PB, first the President is the "head conspirator", now there's Sona and "the bald guy"; I'm sure if this continues into next season "the bald guy" will start reporting to yet another shadowy figure and then towards the end of THAT season we'll find that there is ANOTHER evil organization controlling Sona.

That of course isn't to say I don't enjoy PB; I think the Mahone story is very interesting and I've started to really feel for Franklin. And of course TeaBag is VERY good. But these box-within-a-box evil storylines are beginning to get tiresome.

=NLK=

I think the bald guy is probably the head of the "company". My question is why was T-bag even picking up his bag in Mexico? If he was connecting to Bangkok wouldn't his bag have automatically been transferred to the new plane? And even if he did have to pick up his own bag for some reason, why didn't he just wait for it to come around again instead of going into the back and drawing attention to himself? Not to nitpick, just asking...

And even if he did have to pick up his own bag for some reason, why didn't he just wait for it to come around again instead of going into the back and drawing attention to himself? Not to nitpick, just asking...

Was asking myself the same question. The only thing I could think of is he may not have wanted to give Bellick another chance to spot and recognize it. Other than that T-Bag just plain old panicked which seemed to be out of character.

So was I. He came out the door right where the bag would have gone back into the claim area. Why not just hover there and grab it when it came back through? Bellick was on the other side of the room.

Of course, the whole luggage thing was stupid, anyway. Who doesn't know you can't take a bag that big on the plane as carry-on, anyway? Besides, did he figure on what the security guys would do when they saw a bag full of cash go through the x-ray?

A guy as smart as T-bag would have taken the money and divided it up to be able to transport it. He could have used some to buy traveler's checks, sent some to pick up later in Bangkok via Western Union, then Fed-Ex the rest to a Thailand "Mailboxes, Etc". He could have kept a few thousand on him, just in case.

Who doesn't know you can't take a bag that big on the plane as carry-on
Umm, I'd guess most hardcore cons don't spend much time in airports. He might also have thought the bags only went around the carousel one time. But none of that would explain why the airlines didn't check his bag through to the final destination.

See you are not only a cute geek but a smart one as well.


Thanks! :)

Um...can I just say out loud that what was on the tape was a bit creepy? :confused: Alot of bit...No wonder the Prez would rather make up a lie and step down...yuck!

Um...can I just say out loud that what was on the tape was a bit creepy? :confused: Alot of bit...No wonder the Prez would rather make up a lie and step down...yuck!

Yes it was amazing and I loved how she stepped down I still think she should be killed off she is to ugly to look at in HD LOL

Prison Break 3rd Season: We find out the Prez is pregnant, fast forwards 10 years, and the Prez's son wants to know who his real Daddy Uncle is.

I was certain that she was going to be shot during her announcement, until they showed the former FBI guy watching on TV like everyone else. That killed that suspense.

Yet another inconsistancy to add:

So, the former FBI guy (FFG) shot the secret service agent in order to get his shooting perch (which he then completely blew). So, hours pass while Michael is being interrogated, more hours pass while he talks with the president...

...nobody wonders about this SS agent that hasn't checked in? Nobody goes to check on him, only to find him dead at his post? Nobody then thinks to alert the president that she might be in a dangerous situation?

Gimme a break...

Along with all the T-bag scene problems already mentioned. :D

Gotta love that airport security video capture showing T-bag in full flight though. :D :D

Um...can I just say out loud that what was on the tape was a bit creepy? :confused: Alot of bit...No wonder the Prez would rather make up a lie and step down...yuck!

Yes, and well done by Fox to save that unveiling until the moment when it would have the most impact. Very creepy and very convincing as a damaging element to the Prez.

Yes it was amazing and I loved how she stepped down I still think she should be killed off she is to ugly to look at in HD LOL


I thought for SURE someone, including Kim, was going to kill her off...leaving her unable to give the pardon...her character is so nasty... :confused:

... Very creepy and very convincing as a damaging element to the Prez.


To say the least...now that is one plot element I did NOT forsee...my skin crawled a little bit during the recording when he said "Sweet Caroline" and I saw where it was going...enough said! :confused:

I thought for SURE someone, including Kim, was going to kill her off...leaving her unable to give the pardon...her character is so nasty... :confused:

I agree she is one nasty person and really bad in HD. I think there is only 3 shows left this season so we should get some resolution soon. I don't think it is on this coming Monday for whatever reason.

I agree she is one nasty person and really bad in HD. I think there is only 3 shows left this season so we should get some resolution soon. I don't think it is on this coming Monday for whatever reason.


Yeah it's not on this Monday. I don't know if there is a 2-hour 24 or maybe they want to plug one of their replacement "filler" shows.

Yeah it's not on this Monday. I don't know if there is a 2-hour 24 or maybe they want to plug one of their replacement "filler" shows.

I don't believe 24 is a 2 hour show this week but I could be wrong. So what are we going to talk about without PB for a whole week

I don't believe 24 is a 2 hour show this week but I could be wrong. So what are we going to talk about without PB for a whole week

We could talk about this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070308/tv_nm/actor_manslaughter_dc

Tweener is in trouble yet again.

The Los Angeles Times version:

Manslaughter among charges actor Lane Garrison faces
By Peter Y. Hong and John Spano Los Angeles Times Staff Writers March 8, 2007

Actor Lane Garrison was charged today with vehicular manslaughter in connection with a fatal car crash in Beverly Hills in December that killed a teenage passenger.

The former "Prison Break" star faces a maximum of six years and eight months in prison if convicted. Prosecutors sought bail of $200,000.

Garrison, 26, was expected to be arraigned later today in Beverly Hills Superior Court.

Vahagn Setian, 17, who was riding in Garrison's SUV, was killed in the Dec. 2 crash on South Beverly Drive. Two other passengers, 15-year-old girls, were injured when Garrison's vehicle struck a tree shortly before midnight.

"The Setian family is gratified by the criminal charges brought by the Los Angeles district attorney's office," according to a statement issued by lawyer Paul Kiesel. "They have lost their only child due to Lane Garrison's recklessness."

Garrison faces trial for vehicular manslaughter, driving under the influence and other charges.

Beverly Hills police said Garrison had a blood-alcohol level more than 2 1/2 times the state's legal limit of 0.08%, in addition to cocaine in his system. He was driving more than 40 mph in a 25 mph zone, according to police.

Lawyer Harland Braun, who represents Garrison, said District Attorney Steve Cooley did the right thing in charging manslaughter without gross negligence.

"It's a tribute to him," said Braun, a noted criminal defense attorney. Evidence of Garrison's intoxication made standard manslaughter, a lesser offense, the right choice.

"There's a level of responsibility that Lane understands and accepts," Braun said. "It's not a question of us saying he will be vindicated. The question is what level of responsibility Lane has."

Garrison has also appeared in the 2006 film "Crazy," the 2005 ABC series "Night Stalker," and the upcoming film "Shooter."

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ex-garrison8mar09,0,4415505,print.story?coll=la-home-headlines

I know it's wrong to laugh about this but...
The former "Prison Break" star faces a maximum of six years and eight months in prison if convicted.
LMAO

He deserves time behind bars. What is he DOING with three minors in the car, giving them alcohol, while he is wasted himself on cocaine and alcohol and plows into a tree. That 17 year old kid killed was his parents only child and by the statements they are making they want to see him harshly punished.

Why is a grown adult, age 26, hanging out with a 17 year old and two 15 year olds?

He can also say goodbye to any money he has saved when the wrongful death suit rolls in...

I saw on the news a little while ago he did not enter a plea today...did not want to enter "not guilty" because he feels he does have some responsibility...his attorney doing the talking of course.

It always amazes me that the least little success for some people makes them develope the worst habits.

No HD here in Dallas. Any other affiliates having problems?

I'm just glad it's on tonite...HD or not...I don't know if they are having HD probs here in So Cal....I think this is the second to last episode....

HD was fine here in Charlotte.

Seems Scofield's spiral into stupidity is becoming retroactive. Did he really need a big Christ and Rose tattoo to remember his mother's name?

And perhaps you could just tattoo a lock with a 617 on it? There's a sh*tload of padlocks to check out between Fox River and Panama, and if by some off chance someone locates the boat in Panama, is that padlock really going to keep a motivated person out of the cabin?

Why is a grown adult, age 26, hanging out with a 17 year old and two 15 year olds?


Exactly. I will never understand what in the world he was thinking..

Great episode.. glad to the see the show back on the air.

HD was fine here in Charlotte.

Seems Scofield's spiral into stupidity is becoming retroactive. Did he really need a big Christ and Rose tattoo to remember his mother's name?

And perhaps you could just tattoo a lock with a 617 on it? There's a sh*tload of padlocks to check out between Fox River and Panama, and if by some off chance someone locates the boat in Panama, is that padlock really going to keep a motivated person out of the cabin?


I don't really think that was his mother's name...I think it was just the name of the boat and I agree, he could have remembered it...but then what would the crazy FBI guy have to do? :rolleyes:

T-bag is totally out of control on his little killing spree...

Exactly. I will never understand what in the world he was thinking..

Great episode.. glad to the see the show back on the air.


He's going to pay, big time...

Yeah even with all the outlandish plot twists and writing, PB beats just about everything else out there on non-premium channel tv...PB and 24.

I don't really think that was his mother's name

It was his mom's name, it was shown on her death certificate. That's what allowed Mahoney to make the connection.

It always amazes me that the least little success for some people makes them develope the worst habits.

C'mon, you don't really think he didn't have these attributes prior to his success? "Success" only gave him the means ($) to indulge them more. ;)

I don't really think that was his mother's name...I think it was just the name of the boat and I agree, he could have remembered it...but then what would the crazy FBI guy have to do? :rolleyes:


It was the name listed on his birth certificate that Mahone was inspecting. Father's name: Aldo Burrows Mother's Name: Christina Rose Scofield

Agree that it was a neat little moment that didn't hold up to further inspection. That's true for most of this show though.

Loved T-bag in his little "Panama Jack" hat though. :D

Michael is getting more stupid. Why did he need a picture of Christ to know his boat was going to be called Christina Rose? Did he forget his own mother's name? And, if he is that smart, why didn't he take the platters out of his hard drive and crush them instead of just throwing it out the window?

I also see the FBI agent Mahone is a super genius and can figure anything out in this world just by looking at pictures. Nice super power he has there, is this Heroes or Prison Break?

They sure changed the characters in this show from what they were in Season 1.

My question: Michael didn't even consider for one brief second that T-bag showing up in Panama might be a trap? Or did he think it was just the world's biggest coincidence? And since he said the Panama authorities won't do anything about it, what does Michael plan on doing? Killing him? He can't exactly make a citizen's arrest in Panama.

I also see the FBI agent Mahone is a super genius and can figure anything out in this world just by looking at pictures. Nice super power he has there, is this Heroes or Prison Break?

Neither, he's playing Russell Crowe in A Beautiful Mind. That scene of him in his office mumbling at the pictures and numbers is a direct lift of the same scene Russell did in his garage.

My question: Michael didn't even consider for one brief second that T-bag showing up in Panama might be a trap? Or did he think it was just the world's biggest coincidence? And since he said the Panama authorities won't do anything about it, what does Michael plan on doing? Killing him? He can't exactly make a citizen's arrest in Panama.

Of course he didn't. Michael has gone stupid. The once brillant man has been dumbed down. He even was going to call Sara because he loved her so much, thus letting the world know right where he is. Brilliant.

Loved T-bag in his little "Panama Jack" hat though. :D


He looked quite dapper for a crazed one-arm millionaire killer :D

He looked quite dapper for a crazed one-arm millionaire killer :D

Do you think you could see yourself spending the rest of your life with this man???

He looked quite dapper for a crazed one-arm millionaire killer :D

Well, he's not a millionaire anymore. ;)

Well, he's not a millionaire anymore. ;)

He is not but 1 hot looking guy with the fake hand ;)

Well, he's not a millionaire anymore. ;)


Who has the money?

Do you think you could see yourself spending the rest of your life with this man???


Uh around him, the "rest of your life" is about five minutes....

Who has the money?

Didn't he get apprehended? And, is now working with them to catch Scofield/Burrows in Panama? I was assuming they wouldn't let him keep his duffel bag full of money. :)

so mahone and co. had t-bag in custody and sent him to panama, to act as a lure?

There's gotta be a few minutes of deleted footage there..the continuity jump was little unbelievable.

Kim specifically told Mahone that T-bag was apprehended in Mexico and that they have a use for him. Here it is in the recap:

http://fox.com/prisonbreak/recaps/recap_220_5.htm

It's also obvious that T-bag is being monitored while he's looking for his lady friend. He even acknowledges the guy watching him at one point.

Man, pay more attention when I watch. The last scene I remember T-Bag in was when he was getting a date.

Uh around him, the "rest of your life" is about five minutes....

Boy isn't that the truth but I bet you could tiurn on your charm and live 15 minutes LOL

Kim specifically told Mahone that T-bag was apprehended in Mexico and that they have a use for him. Here it is in the recap:

http://fox.com/prisonbreak/recaps/recap_220_5.htm

It's also obvious that T-bag is being monitored while he's looking for his lady friend. He even acknowledges the guy watching him at one point.
I thought that was the pimp...

I thought that was the pimp...

The guy had an earpiece and was dressed like a Fed. Somehow, I'd think a Panamanian Pimp would be outfitted a little less conservatively. ;)

The guy had an earpiece and was dressed like a Fed. Somehow, I'd think a Panamanian Pimp would be outfitted a little less conservatively. ;)
I missed that part.

I agree that it was a confusing sequence of events.

For example, why would T-bag be so intent on finding just the right hooker? If they were planning some type of rendezvous for him, why wouldn't they make it clear which one to approach? Instead, it made it look like a repeat from earlier in the episode...that he was just trying to find another one to play "Suzy Q."

If he's in custody, why bother letting him out in the open like this at all?

Looks like there is a season 3 on the horizon according to FredFa

Boy isn't that the truth but I bet you could tiurn on your charm and live 15 minutes LOL


Maybe even 20! :p :D

Maybe even 20! :p :D

You must have lots of charm I don't think he could make 20 minutes

You must have lots of charm I don't think he could make 20 minutes


Maybe 19 then lol... ;)

Looks like there is a season 3 on the horizon according to FredFa


Indeed

http://www.tv.com/story/9135.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=news&tag=headlines;title;0

Spoilers in the link though.

Indeed

http://www.tv.com/story/9135.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=news&tag=headlines;title;0

Spoilers in the link though.


I'm glad. I'm not quite ready to be done with Michael and Linc. And when it does come to an end, I want a definitive, not open-ended, ending.

I'm glad. I'm not quite ready to be done with Michael and Linc. And when it does come to an end, I want a definitive, not open-ended, ending.

I'm glad it's coming back but them going back to prison? :rolleyes:

I'm glad. I'm not quite ready to be done with Michael and Linc. And when it does come to an end, I want a definitive, not open-ended, ending.

As usual I agree with you 100% and hope the writers actually do that.

2. What is or who is SONA? That was the label on the file the bald guy was looking at when Bill Kim got in the car.And he also brought it up with Kim in the boat this past episode.

From wikipedia:

The district of Soná is a district within the Province of Veraguas, situated in the Republic of Panama. The capital town of the district is also named Soná. It is home to the Sona Maximum Security Prison, where the FBI has been rumoured to conduct interrogations with Guantanamo Bay detainees.

Oh boy...

Neat little find...thanks for sharing.

As usual I agree with you 100% and hope the writers actually do that.


:) Me too! Thanks!

And he also brought it up with Kim in the boat this past episode.

From wikipedia:

The district of Soná is a district within the Province of Veraguas, situated in the Republic of Panama. The capital town of the district is also named Soná. It is home to the Sona Maximum Security Prison, where the FBI has been rumoured to conduct interrogations with Guantanamo Bay detainees.

Oh boy...


Very good job!

I ain't been here for a while so I have skipped a few pages in order to say this. But surely just because President Reynolds has stepped down doesn't mean they can't get a pardon. Why can't they just lay low until a replace has come in and then play the tape for them. Then that president can give the pardon? I'm from the UK so I don't know how the American law would work here, someone please tell me where I may be wrong or right.

You must not have paid attention to what's on the tape. It's only harmful to the president that's stepping down.

I ain't been here for a while so I have skipped a few pages in order to say this. But surely just because President Reynolds has stepped down doesn't mean they can't get a pardon. Why can't they just lay low until a replace has come in and then play the tape for them. Then that president can give the pardon? I'm from the UK so I don't know how the American law would work here, someone please tell me where I may be wrong or right.


Go on-line and watch the episode in question. That is info the President would never want out :confused: and which would bring down her presidency in a moment, but it has nothing to do with any other administration.

Go on-line and watch the episode in question. That is info the President would never want out :confused: and which would bring down her presidency in a moment, but it has nothing to do with any other administration.

In other words, Blackmail is only effective against people who have something to lose. The incoming pres could care less whether they air the tape or not.

In other words, Blackmail is only effective against people who have something to lose. The incoming pres could care less whether they air the tape or not.


Right.

Wow. No comments on tonight's show.....

Wow. No comments on tonight's show.....


Us West Coasters haven't even watched it yet.... :eek: :D

Us West Coasters haven't even watched it yet.... :eek: :D
...and your point is? There are usually comments while the show is still airing on the East coast.

I was luvin the whole escape and prove innocent thing but this is just being dragged out way too much. Mike, shoot tbag and let everyone go. Linc, shoot mahone and lock his ass up.

next week could have been the series finale. they get away, sara goes free or serious reduced time and Sucre gets his girl.

but no, they want to extend it to a 3rd season. even adding new people. next season will def be all dl or just look into certain eps.

i agree...they're trying too hard to stretch it out.

I really hope next season is an abbreviated 13 episode season that wraps it all up...

at this point, it's not like they're going to lose the audience if michael or lincoln kill tbag or mahone...they've broken out of prison, stolen cars, money etc etc. Killing a serial killer and a dirty agent can't be that bad.

...and your point is? There are usually comments while the show is still airing on the East coast.


I didn't have a "point" - just that many had not watched it yet. Sorry to offend you so.

at this point, it's not like they're going to lose the audience if michael or lincoln kill tbag or mahone...they've broken out of prison, stolen cars, money etc etc. Killing a serial killer and a dirty agent can't be that bad.


Killing T-Bag at this point would be redeemable. How many people are dead in his wake since the escape? Michael did really "pin him down" tonight though didn't he? :confused: :D

Wow. No comments on tonight's show.....


That's because the show was horrible...heheheh. I love how they all show up at the same place at the same time.....always. They are walking GPS units.

One of the best episodes of the season. Even though it was highly predictable and I knew everything that was going to happen based on past shows, something about this one was just really good. I knew Kellerman would come into court when he was in his apartment/hotel room getting ready, but when he arrived, it was still cool.

So which brother is going to die next season? According to everything I read, they are saying that one brother will most likely not be around after a few episodes into season 3. I wonder which one. Can it be any other then Linc? I mean, isn't the whole show Michael?

Who has the money?

We see the "duffel bag" all the time but notice recently that we do NOT see the money!!??!! Yes, it DOES look like a set-up using T-bag..... :confused:

if they kill off a brother, i am done with the show.

The whole point was for Michael to get Lincoln out and live free.

They should just spin the show off instead of calling it Prison Break, if they're gonna go in a completely different direction.

Looks like next season will definitely be "Panama Prison Break". Billick will be in prison for killing the prostitute, Sucre might be in, too, as well as T-Bag. My prediction is that Michael has to break in and get Sucre and Billick out (Billick so they can rescue Sucre's girl).

Looks like next season will definitely be "Panama Prison Break". Billick will be in prison for killing the prostitute, Sucre might be in, too, as well as T-Bag. My prediction is that Michael has to break in and get Sucre and Billick out (Billick so they can rescue Sucre's girl).
Too funny, Bellick looks to be a lock to be convicted of yet another person he didn't actually kill. :D

Too funny, Bellick looks to be a lock to be convicted of yet another person he didn't actually kill. :D
If Bellick would just stop following T-Bag when he's running around killing people, he wouldn't get mixed up in these misunderstandings!

I didn't have a "point" - just that many had not watched it yet. Sorry to offend you so.
You didn't offend me. It's just that normally there are at least a couple of posts by the time the East Coast feed is over. Last night there was nothing at all - even to complain.

Okay, let me understand what happened here...

T-bag was apprehended and then used as bait for the brothers right? Isn't that what the "Feds" were doing observing him (he certainly knew they were around). They used the abandoned building as their trap, which is why he had the address written down on the scrap of paper.

If so, WHY WOULD THEY LET HIM KEEP HIS 5 MILLION DOLLARS AROUND? They could just as easily let him keep an empty bag as "bait." I kept expecting that to be the case, especially since Michael and Sucre never once thought to CHECK THE BAG when they were carting T-bag around...but then T-bag himself made sure he got his bag back after the car wreck. Surely if anyone knew whether there was money in there or not, it would be him, right?

The other possibility is that t-bag set up the trap himself...but that doesn't jive with the fact that Mahone got word he was "in custody" and the fact that he knew the brothers would be in Panama.

Maybe I'm giving this show too much credit to expect this part to make sense...

Okay, let me understand what happened here...

T-bag was apprehended and then used as bait for the brothers right? Isn't that what the "Feds" were doing observing him (he certainly knew they were around). They used the abandoned building as their trap, which is why he had the address written down on the scrap of paper.

If so, WHY WOULD THEY LET HIM KEEP HIS 5 MILLION DOLLARS AROUND? They could just as easily let him keep an empty bag as "bait." I kept expecting that to be the case, especially since Michael and Sucre never once thought to CHECK THE BAG when they were carting T-bag around...but then T-bag himself made sure he got his bag back after the car wreck. Surely if anyone knew whether there was money in there or not, it would be him, right?

The other possibility is that t-bag set up the trap himself...but that doesn't jive with the fact that Mahone got word he was "in custody" and the fact that he knew the brothers would be in Panama.

Maybe I'm giving this show too much credit to expect this part to make sense...


T-Bag had been taking great pains to take the bag with him, even after he had ditched the Company men...I have a feeling at least SOME of the $$ is still in there.

Yeah, but that could conceivably be explained away as part of the "trap"...but it still doesn't explain why they'd let him keep the money...

There must be something I'm missing in that scenario...

Yeah, but that could conceivably be explained away as part of the "trap"...but it still doesn't explain why they'd let him keep the money...

There must be something I'm missing in that scenario...

Maybe they just figured they'd get it from him after the brothers got caught. Obviously they didn't think they'd get busted by Michael, Sucre and Bellick.

Also, I'm pretty sure the guys watching T-bag weren't Feds. The Feds probably didn't even know that he got captured. I think those were "company" men working for Kim.

Maybe they just figured they'd get it from him after the brothers got caught. Obviously they didn't think they'd get busted by Michael, Sucre and Bellick.

They didn't? Wasn't that the point of the trap? How else would the trap be sprung if they didn't bust the guards.


Also, I'm pretty sure the guys watching T-bag weren't Feds. The Feds probably didn't even know that he got captured. I think those were "company" men working for Kim.

Yeah, you're right. Same thing though.

They didn't? Wasn't that the point of the trap? How else would the trap be sprung if they didn't bust the guards.



Yeah, you're right. Same thing though.

The two guys watching T-bag (the "company" guys) weren't supposed to get busted is what I meant. I think the plan was that they would watch T-bag go into the building, followed by Michael and Lincoln. When T-bag came out they would grab him (and the money I assume) and probably have him killed like all the other escapees so far.

They were standing guard in front of the door. Very conspicuously. I don't see how the brothers would've gone about it any differently.

I know there's really no point in debating it, most of this show has sloppy writing like this...

If Bellick would just stop following T-Bag when he's running around killing people, he wouldn't get mixed up in these misunderstandings!


It's karma lol! Bellick deserves it!!! But yeah T-Bag has got to be stopped. :confused:

Also, I'm pretty sure the guys watching T-bag weren't Feds. The Feds probably didn't even know that he got captured. I think those were "company" men working for Kim.


I think they were "Company". Michael asked them in the alley if they were Company and said they weren't feds or something to that effect.

If they were company men, how does that explain Mahone's assistant telling him that T-bag was apprehended in Mexico last episode?

Mahone managed to get him out from under the Fed's watch as a highly sought prison escapee and in with his "company" men instead?

It's karma lol! Bellick deserves it!!! But yeah T-Bag has got to be stopped. :confused:


I agree with you on this I love seeing Bellick cry like a baby.

I agree with you on this I love seeing Bellick cry like a baby.


Me too! ;) He has zero redeemable qualities! Once he killed Westmoreland's prison kitty, he was on my **** list! :D

If they were company men, how does that explain Mahone's assistant telling him that T-bag was apprehended in Mexico last episode?

Mahone managed to get him out from under the Fed's watch as a highly sought prison escapee and in with his "company" men instead?


I do get confused at times myself :confused: I may watch it again before next week's finale if I have time. :)

If they were company men, how does that explain Mahone's assistant telling him that T-bag was apprehended in Mexico last episode?

Mahone managed to get him out from under the Fed's watch as a highly sought prison escapee and in with his "company" men instead?

I thought it was Kim who told Mahone that T-bag had been caught...because Mahone said something along the lines of "Let me guess...you want me to go down there and kill him?". And Kim said "No, we've decided to change our strategy". And presumably that strategy was to use T-bag to get to the brothers. How they knew that Michael would feel guilty enough about T-bag to risk everything to go get him is another question, though...

I thought it was Kim who told Mahone that T-bag had been caught...because Mahone said something along the lines of "Let me guess...you want me to go down there and kill him?". And Kim said "No, we've decided to change our strategy". And presumably that strategy was to use T-bag to get to the brothers. How they knew that Michael would feel guilty enough about T-bag to risk everything to go get him is another question, though...

That makes a little more sense then. It was "company" men all along then.

Still don't understand why they let him keep his money though...but I know I'm expecting too much from this show. :)

After two pages of this question being brought up repeatedly, hasn't the thought that the money might be fake ever entered anyone's mind?

The same question was brought up a TCF, to which one poster asked why T-Bag would go back for the duffle bag after the car accident if he were really intent on escaping Michale and Suchre knowing the bills inside were fake.

My son and I have been watching PB since the beginning and 24 for the last 4 years. After watching this weeks show, we are both convinced that PB is the far superior show now. PB has more intersting characters that you can have empathy with. Sucre and his girlfriend, TBag and his craziness, Michael and the doctor, Linc and, hell, even the FBI agent are all far more interesting than Jack or Chloe. I find myself wondering which way the story is going to turn in PB and being seriously surprised sometimes. 24 is so over the top and predictable it has gotten boring.

It wouldn't make sense for the money to be fake - but it makes less sense that they would capture T-Bag, force him to participate in the sting, and allow him to keep his bag full of $5 million dollars.

The only way fake money would make sense is if they switched it, but didn't tell T-Bag.

My son and I have been watching PB since the beginning and 24 for the last 4 years. After watching this weeks show, we are both convinced that PB is the far superior show now. PB has more intersting characters that you can have empathy with. Sucre and his girlfriend, TBag and his craziness, Michael and the doctor, Linc and, hell, even the FBI agent are all far more interesting than Jack or Chloe. I find myself wondering which way the story is going to turn in PB and being seriously surprised sometimes. 24 is so over the top and predictable it has gotten boring.

I've seen every episode of both shows and as much as I hate to say it(being a 24 sniffer), I totally agree.

It's a shame that from the looks of it, PB has at best one more season left. If it goes beyond that, we'll all be griping about it in the same light as most people are with 24.

I'd agree comparing Season 1 of PB with Season 6 of 24 - but definitely not the current season of PB. The realism of Season 2 of PB makes any 24 season look like a documentary by comparison.

Is it right to make the connection that each season was one month long?

I'd agree comparing Season 1 of PB with Season 6 of 24 - but definitely not the current season of PB. The realism of Season 2 of PB makes any 24 season look like a documentary by comparison.True. But I was never able to get into "24" at all, so, since I was into PB from the start, it's still preferable (ridiculous as it's gotten).

Is it right to make the connection that each season was one month long?This season, yeah - but when they were in prison, it seemed much longer and slower paced.

Now it's like "Short Attention Span Theater" :rolleyes:.

I agree. After this season, it's time for PB to wrap up. I think that's the problem with the current trend of serialized dramas. They have no definite end point in mind where they draw up the show, instead: hoping that it will continue on indefinitely, sucking up all the ad dollars it can. But if a network would instead have a more extended miniseries view on shows (say, 48 episodes and it's over), more people would hang around to see how it would wrap up. Lost is currently going through this big time. Why follow the show if it will never come to a conclusion? A kind of viewer's hell. Traditional show's like the Closer wrap up each episode. Even though we continue watching because we like Brenda the detective, we feel like if it was cancelled tomorrow we were still satisfied with the overall show. AND would watch reruns. Don't bet on me ever watching any PB reruns.

True. But I was never able to get into "24" at all, so, since I was into PB from the start, it's still preferable (ridiculous as it's gotten).


Season finale tonight!

Season finale tonight!Goin' out - but my DVR's set :).

I agree. After this season, it's time for PB to wrap up. I think that's the problem with the current trend of serialized dramas. They have no definite end point in mind where they draw up the show, instead: hoping that it will continue on indefinitely, sucking up all the ad dollars it can. But if a network would instead have a more extended miniseries view on shows (say, 48 episodes and it's over), more people would hang around to see how it would wrap up. Lost is currently going through this big time. Why follow the show if it will never come to a conclusion? A kind of viewer's hell. Traditional show's like the Closer wrap up each episode. Even though we continue watching because we like Brenda the detective, we feel like if it was cancelled tomorrow we were still satisfied with the overall show. AND would watch reruns. Don't bet on me ever watching any PB reruns."The Fugitive" it sure ain't ;).

Season finale tonight!


Yup I believe this is it till next Fall hard to believe that it is done so early .

Yup I believe this is it till next Fall hard to believe that it is done so early .


I know! :confused: Thank goodness I still have 24! :D

Goin' out - but my DVR's set :).


Have fun! :)

I've never posted in this thread...but I gotta say...what a perfect way to end the season...not as good as last year but still, I was wondering how they were going to extend this another 20+ episodes...

Should allow them to get back to Season 1 form.

Not like it could get worse.

Should allow them to get back to Season 1 form.


Season 1 was so good...I'm gonna go start watching the dvr now...I like to wait a few minutes into it so I can skip the commercials. :D

I thought tonight worked to a pretty nice wrap up and conclusion. Especially the end of Kellerman.

And then the last ten minutes happened. All I could think of is "why are you running again?" Were they being pursued for the setup with Tbag and Bellick? Did they know that's why the cops were after them?

It should have ended tonight because I think next season it's going to be "A Break Too Far" especially with the threads of the new conspiracy weaving in the background. They rarely work out well.

NOOOO!!! This was a great Monday lineup IMO. 24 and Prison Break back to back.. During the fall.. Prison Break is also a great lead in for MNF, atleast for me @ 8:00 PM(although MNF started at 7:30).

I have had my complaints about Prison Break, but this was a great season finale. This ending worked very well because its a great setup for the fall.. with this episode they could have also ended the entire Prison Break(excluding everything after they finally meet Sarah on the boat.. they should have just sailed off). So this episode could have worked both ways.

I'm going to miss it :(

.. until fall :D

I thought tonight worked to a pretty nice wrap up and conclusion. Especially the end of Kellerman. You didn't actually see Kellerman die. With this show, anything can happen.

And then the last ten minutes happened. All I could think of is "why are you running again?" Were they being pursued for the setup with Tbag and Bellick? Did they know that's why the cops were after them?Dead asian on dock.


with this episode they could have also ended the entire Prison Break(excluding everything after they finally meet Sarah on the boat.. they should have just sailed off). So this episode could have worked both ways.
My roommate wishes it did end tonight. We're pissed that we are into the show and have to wait a **** ton of time again.

Anyway, always thrilling, always crazy. Good suspense show. Gets your heart pumping every time. bon voyage.

Is Kellerman really dead? We never seen him get shot. They could have just shot the guard and took him.

Is Kellerman really dead? We never seen him get shot. They could have just shot the guard and took him.

Yeah, he's dead. His role had nowhere to go now that his testimony put an end to the conspiracy against Linc and Sarah, and he foretold his own demise on the stand. Looks like next year we may get to see Michael and Mahone working together to escape, along with Bellick and T-bag. Or maybe Linc has to "infiltrate" the Panamanian prison to try to break Michael out in a role reversal of sorts. And they have to tie Sarah in as well.

But how weird was the ending scene with "silent conspiracy man" in that lab, and the cryptic comment about Michael escaping again...? WTF?? Looks like next season could tread into some new territory...

I don't think Kellerman is dead, or the writers are leaving it open to bring him back as something "stunning" in season 3.

Was that Bellick at the end laying on the floor as Michael walks past him? Sure looks like him.

I think that bald guy is conducting an expirement on Michael in that they want to see if they can get someone to do something or act a certain way. He might of been expiremented on all along. His comments of of course he will break out, it is what we want him to do, and then before that they said they couldn't believe they actually got him back in a prison again. So they wanted this all along. They are obviously expirementing on him somehow. Guess we will find out more in season 3.

BTW, I heard something interesting on NPR's "Marketplace" program yesterday. It was a story about all the DVD bootlegging going on in China, as well as "illegal" downloads. Seems the most popular western television series in China is....... 'Prison Break'! And by a fairly wide margin, too; they're just crazy about this show over there. Wonder if they're going to be pissed now that the dasterdly Bill Kim finally got his just desserts....? :D

Is the money still in that lagoon? I guess Linc could've gone back for it, unless the Panamania cops decided to dredge the area for evidence in Kim's death.

$5mil could finance a heckuva escape plot for Michael.

BTW, I heard something interesting on NPR's "Marketplace" program yesterday. It was a story about all the DVD bootlegging going on in China, as well as "illegal" downloads. Seems the most popular western television series in China is....... 'Prison Break'! And by a fairly wide margin, too; they're just crazy about this show over there. Wonder if they're going to be pissed now that the dasterdly Bill Kim finally got his just desserts....? :D

Probably not, seeing as Kim was Korean.

;)

The part that I'm confused about is that if the end game was to get Michael into the Panama prison (and they kept talking about SONA, which is the name of the prison) then why did Mahone have orders from day 1 to kill all of the escapees? And isn't a huge coincidence that Michael had planned to end up in Panama all along, if that's also where the "Company" wanted him to be?

The part that I'm confused about is that if the end game was to get Michael into the Panama prison (and they kept talking about SONA, which is the name of the prison) then why did Mahone have orders from day 1 to kill all of the escapees? And isn't a huge coincidence that Michael had planned to end up in Panama all along, if that's also where the "Company" wanted him to be?

I know, that confused me too.

I must have watched a different show than the rest of you as I thought this was as silly as all the other episodes this season. I've been watching through habit, but with a long break, I can hopefully break myself free and not watch anymore. I thought this episode was as horrible as the rest this season.

I know, that confused me too.

I must have watched a different show than the rest of you as I thought this was as silly as all the other episodes this season. I've been watching through habit, but with a long break, I can hopefully break myself free and not watch anymore. I thought this episode was as horrible as the rest this season.

Actually, I don't disagree. The plot twists are about as absurd as those on "24" (which I've given up on). But PB IS interesting when it focuses on the characters themselves: I'm really fascinated by Mahone and his demons and the Franklin subplot, and of course T-Bag would be interesting to watch standing on his head spitting nickels.

But, again, yea, I'm REALLY intrigued by what Michael is going to confront in that room. Regardless of what it is I'm sure Linc/Sara/whoever will get him out of it.

=NLK=

Was that Bellick at the end laying on the floor as Michael walks past him? Sure looks like him.


That's what I was wondering. My wife swore it was. I looked for a bullet hole in his leg but they didn't show that leg. Probably was him

I'm pretty certain that was Bellick quivering on the floor.

I'm pretty certain that was Bellick quivering on the floor.

Yep and it looked as if Bubba, who standing above him, had a good time.... :D

Oh, and the entire show is far-fetched and doesn't make sense many times, we've been discussing that all along...but it is entertaining for a number of reasons. The finale was no different.

I must have watched a different show than the rest of you as I thought this was as silly as all the other episodes this season. I've been watching through habit, but with a long break, I can hopefully break myself free and not watch anymore. I thought this episode was as horrible as the rest this season.

Yeah, I also thought this episode was pretty forced and ridiculous. Now we're supposed to believe that the "Company" has been planning to get Michael to Panama the whole time so that he could be imprisoned there? Huh? The pieces to this puzzle just don't add up at all.

And what was with all the out of focus Stedicam shots in the jungle?

Lincoln will get arrested, get thrown in the same Panamanian Prison and he'll tell Michael, "Don't worry, I've got a plan". Then he'll take off his shirt to reveal a tattoo on his chest of 2 stick figures wearing mining helmets and holding shovels - then on his stomach there are 2 stick figures holding chopsticks having a picnic at the base of the Great Wall of China.

On his back, they're digging again, but that plan is only necessary if they come up on the wrong side of the Great Wall. :)

Was that Bellick at the end laying on the floor as Michael walks past him? Sure looks like him.

I think that bald guy is conducting an expirement on Michael in that they want to see if they can get someone to do something or act a certain way. He might of been expiremented on all along. His comments of of course he will break out, it is what we want him to do, and then before that they said they couldn't believe they actually got him back in a prison again. So they wanted this all along. They are obviously expirementing on him somehow. Guess we will find out more in season 3.

It was definitely Bellick.

I think the General wants to recruit Michael now...he has a spy's pedigree (via his dad)..."it's in his blood". The conspiracy has been exposed, so he doesn't need Michael dead.

Only problem is, he brought up SONA BEFORE the conspiracy was exposed...so I think it's a case of the writers finding out that they had been extended another season and having to shuffle quick to find a cliffhanger.

Doesn't matter to me, I enjoyed the ep. Although...if you've been on the run, you finally get away and there's a boat with your girlfriend...wouldn't you want to get the hell OUT TO SEA...not sit and look for booze?

At least we don't have to wait until January for S3.

The part that I'm confused about is that if the end game was to get Michael into the Panama prison (and they kept talking about SONA, which is the name of the prison) then why did Mahone have orders from day 1 to kill all of the escapees? And isn't a huge coincidence that Michael had planned to end up in Panama all along, if that's also where the "Company" wanted him to be?

That wasn't the game from the beginning. They changed their mind part way through and revealed Sona near the end of the show. I think they decided to try the Sona project with Michael, since he is down there. Who knows, we will never know for sure until season 3.

That wasn't the game from the beginning. They changed their mind part way through and revealed Sona near the end of the show. I think they decided to try the Sona project with Michael, since he is down there. Who knows, we will never know for sure until season 3.

Still a pretty big coincidence that he happened to be in the same country....

I agree with above posters who said that it was a case of not knowing if the show would be renewed for another year, so they had to be in a position to end it all if not, or have another story line if it did get picked up. So everything might not add up perfectly, but they'll be another season anyway.

Still a pretty big coincidence that he happened to be in the same country....

I agree with above posters who said that it was a case of not knowing if the show would be renewed for another year, so they had to be in a position to end it all if not, or have another story line if it did get picked up. So everything might not add up perfectly, but they'll be another season anyway.

Michael's plan all along was to go to Panama, thus the boat being built there. They mentioned this I think in season 1. Perhaps this was all part of the plan from the beginning (with the bald headed guy), to get him to go to Panama, just in case they wanted to move ahead with Sona. Don't know, just thinking. Maybe the Linc setup was actually for the benefit of Michael to try out their expirement on Michael.

Michael's plan all along was to go to Panama, thus the boat being built there. They mentioned this I think in season 1. Perhaps this was all part of the plan from the beginning (with the bald headed guy), to get him to go to Panama, just in case they wanted to move ahead with Sona. Don't know, just thinking. Maybe the Linc setup was actually for the benefit of Michael to try out their expirement on Michael.

Couldn't have been the plan from the beginning, the company wanted him dead in the beginning.

Michael's plan all along was to go to Panama, thus the boat being built there. They mentioned this I think in season 1. Perhaps this was all part of the plan from the beginning (with the bald headed guy), to get him to go to Panama, just in case they wanted to move ahead with Sona. Don't know, just thinking. Maybe the Linc setup was actually for the benefit of Michael to try out their expirement on Michael.

Seems like a pretty elaborate plot if all they really wanted was Michael. Probably would have been easier just to kidnap him and take him to wherever they were going to experiment on him.

Couldn't have been the plan from the beginning, the company wanted him dead in the beginning.

Michael's plan from the beginning was to go to Panama.

Was that Bellick at the end laying on the floor as Michael walks past him? Sure looks like him.
- I was also very confused by this. I rewinded it about 10 times and couldn't decide. If it wasn't Bellick, why even use an actor that looks like him?

- I was also very confused by this. I rewinded it about 10 times and couldn't decide. If it wasn't Bellick, why even use an actor that looks like him?

It's definitely him, he's just so beat-down and bloodied that it's hard to recognize him.

- I was also very confused by this. I rewinded it about 10 times and couldn't decide. If it wasn't Bellick, why even use an actor that looks like him?

It was Bellick.

It's definitely him, he's just so beat-down and bloodied that it's hard to recognize him.

It looked to me like he had a rag tied around his arm, like he'd been shooting up or something. Was that my imagination?

Michael's plan from the beginning was to go to Panama.

But what we're saying is, the Company's plans from the beginning were to have Michael killed by Mahone. There was never any indication at all that they wanted Michael alive. It was stated many times that he was to take out ALL the inmates. Also, how could the Company have controlled where Michael's escape route was?

It looked to me like he had a rag tied around his arm, like he'd been shooting up or something. Was that my imagination?

Different guy. That one was in a cell. Bellick was out in the hallway (buck naked), with a Mr. Olympia type bodybuilder standing over him.

All I can say is that for a guy with a couple of toes missing, Michael still runs pretty well.

So at the end they take Mahone and Michael to, presumably, SONA, but it seemed like they removed Michael's handcuffs once they took him out of the van while Mahone they made sure to cuff once out of the van.
Am I remembering that correctly? Did they remove Michael's restraints?

Next year they should do a crossover. The first half of the season is the attempt to escape and the second half is them on the run.

But, due to the government conspiracy Michael is labeled a terrorist threat (maybe he gets infected with a biological weapon in prison) and Jack Bauer has to track him down. 24 is the story from Jacks POV, and Prison Break from Michael's. Jack catches up to Michael during the Prison Break finale and clears him, then spends the remainder of 24 season 7 tracking down the conspirators and another insane president.

Fox's recap confirms it was Bellick.

http://www.fox.com/prisonbreak/recaps/recap_222_7.htm

"Michael looks down to see a familiar face. Bellick lays shaking on the prison floor, near naked and beaten within an inch of his life. Bellick looks up to Michael, his face scarred. A massive inmate standing over him glares at Michael."

No talk here about Sucre...

Of course, he's not going to die as we're led to believe by his collapse on the street as Bellick is driven away...but what about his poor GF? How many weeks has it been now since Bellick said she had "food and water for 2 weeks at most?"

Long enough for Tankretti to be captured, go to trial, be exonerated, and her savior to be murdererd.

Long enough for Michael/Linc to go to Panama, confront T-Bag, turn him over to the cops, negotiate with and meet up with Mahone/Linc, run away from the cops, meet up with Tankretti, run away from the cops, turn himself in, go through court (presumably), and get admitted to Sona.

She's gotta be a goner by now...

But what we're saying is, the Company's plans from the beginning were to have Michael killed by Mahone. There was never any indication at all that they wanted Michael alive. It was stated many times that he was to take out ALL the inmates. Also, how could the Company have controlled where Michael's escape route was?

I think the company changed their mind part way through. They asked the Korean guy if he knew about Sona. Maybe they realized they had an oppurtunity to use Michael in their expirement or something. Don't know, all speculation as of now.

All I can say is that for a guy with a couple of toes missing, Michael still runs pretty well.

He must be cousins with Jack Bauer of course.

But, due to the government conspiracy Michael is labeled a terrorist threat (maybe he gets infected with a biological weapon in prison) and Jack Bauer has to track him down.

Ok, not sure I'd buy into that, BUT: If they are really planning on replacing Kiefer on 24 I'd rather see Wentworth Miller step in than Rick Schroeder. He might actually be able to pull it off.

She's gotta be a goner by now...

Of course, Bellick could have been lying and GF is just fine ... ;)

Of course, Bellick could have been lying and GF is just fine ... ;)

Actually, I don't have a lot of faith in Bellick organizing a confinement with rations enough for a 2 week stay.

She's probably back home with his momma. :D

Of course, Bellick could have been lying and GF is just fine ...
- He could be, but didn't he dangle her cross as proof in front of Sucre?

It was Bellick.


It was Bellick and he and Michael and T-Bag and Mahone are going to have to band together, despite their hatred for each other, to get out of that rat hole in the new season...Linc and Sara will help Michael.

Panama Federal Prison makes Fox River look like a luxury resort :confused:

Ok, not sure I'd buy into that, BUT: If they are really planning on replacing Kiefer on 24 I'd rather see Wentworth Miller step in than Rick Schroeder. He might actually be able to pull it off.


Kiefer is on 24 for 2 more seasons (including this one) but Wentworth replacing him on 24 would rock. I could definitely buy it. And no way can Ricky replace Jack Bauer.

So at the end they take Mahone and Michael to, presumably, SONA, but it seemed like they removed Michael's handcuffs once they took him out of the van while Mahone they made sure to cuff once out of the van.
Am I remembering that correctly? Did they remove Michael's restraints?

I rewatched the end of the episode last night and confirmed that the Panamanian cops uncuffed Michael after taking him out of the van and simply opened the SONA door for him saying 'this is as far as we go'. The cops didn't seem to treat Michael like he was a dangerous criminal.
When they took Mahone out of his van they did make sure he was cuffed but they never showed his fate. We don't know if Mahone is also in SONA but it seems likely since they drove him there!

When Kim and 'the general' were 'talking' in the limo the general wrote that only one of the brothers was needed and Kim replied that he assumed they both know WHICH one.
Anybody have a clue as to which brother is needed and why?
I'm not sure if we're not supposed to know or if I missed a clue.

I suppose it's possible they want Michael to escape from Sona and bring someone else out with him?

Wouldn't make sense on a number of levels, but would be on par with much of the logic of this show.

When Kim and 'the general' were 'talking' in the limo the general wrote that only one of the brothers was needed and Kim replied that he assumed they both know WHICH one.
Anybody have a clue as to which brother is needed and why?
I'm not sure if we're not supposed to know or if I missed a clue.

Kim was pointing his gun at Linc as if to shoot him when Sara tagged him. So my guess is they wanted Michael alive.

When Kim and 'the general' were 'talking' in the limo the general wrote that only one of the brothers was needed and Kim replied that he assumed they both know WHICH one.
Anybody have a clue as to which brother is needed and why?
I'm not sure if we're not supposed to know or if I missed a clue.

Right after Kim made the remark about which brother is needed, he trained his gun and eyes on Linc. That's when Sara shot him. So, they clearly "need" Michael, possibly as Irmo says, to help break someone else, whom we have yet to meet, out of the SONA prison.

I suppose it's possible they want Michael to escape from Sona and bring someone else out with him?

Wouldn't make sense on a number of levels, but would be on par with much of the logic of this show.


Right after Kim made the remark about which brother is needed, he trained his gun and eyes on Linc. That's when Sara shot him. So, they clearly "need" Michael, possibly as Irmo says, to help break someone else, whom we have yet to meet, out of the SONA prison.


Very good perception! Michael's skills may be needed for a "Company" prison break. That ties it all together. I bet you're right!

Very good perception! Michael's skills may be needed for a "Company" prison break. That ties it all together. I bet you're right!

:D Irmo and I often think alike, except when it comes to one particular hotshot Viper pilot...

Very good perception! Michael's skills may be needed for a "Company" prison break. That ties it all together. I bet you're right!

It seems like the "Company" is powerful enough that they could put together a band of ex-Navy Seals or something to break in and get whoever or whatever they need.

It seems like the "Company" is powerful enough that they could put together a band of ex-Navy Seals or something to break in and get whoever or whatever they need.

That's what I meant when I said "it wouldn't make sense on many levels."

There would be plenty of alternatives for the "Company" to use than employing Michael as an escape artist...but with this show, you just have to roll with it sometimes. Often, actually.

:D Irmo and I often think alike, except when it comes to one particular hotshot Viper pilot...

Yep.

Woof!

:D

That's what I meant when I said "it wouldn't make sense on many levels."

There would be plenty of alternatives for the "Company" to use than employing Michael as an escape artist...but with this show, you just have to roll with it sometimes. Often, actually.

As has been stated before, they must not realize that Michael is only good at escaping from prison when he has the blueprints, and months to plan and tattoo himself with those plans. How good will he be escaping from a completely unknown prison filled with much scarier inmates than Fox River.

As has been stated before, they must not realize that Michael is only good at escaping from prison when he has the blueprints, and months to plan and tattoo himself with those plans. How good will he be escaping from a completely unknown prison filled with much scarier inmates than Fox River.

Even after the escape he's been able to evade capture pretty well (until this last cluster**ck)

Michael, the structural engineer, has a very analytical mind. He'll be able to ascertain the strengths and weaknesses of this new prison and formulate a new escape plan quickly. In the meantime, he'll forge the alliances necessary to put his new plan in motion, and outmanuver those who will oppose him. He will be helped by Linc, somehow (perhaps in a role reversal w/ Linc getting arrested and sent to the SONA prison), and Sara will do something to make her character relevant again as well (surely they could use a good-looking American doctor down there in that hellhole, no?). Sucre will end up in the same prison as the others, and will ally with Michael against the inevitable betrayals by T-Bag, Bellick, and Mahone. C-note is probably gone.

There you have it - the Season 3 synopsis. No charge. :D

Sara will do something to make her character relevant again as well.

Man, with details like that, I don't even need to watch next season. :)

Michael, the structural engineer, has a very analytical mind. He'll be able to ascertain the strengths and weaknesses of this new prison and formulate a new escape plan quickly. In the meantime, he'll forge the alliances necessary to put his new plan in motion, and outmanuver those who will oppose him. He will be helped by Linc, somehow (perhaps in a role reversal w/ Linc getting arrested and sent to the SONA prison), and Sara will do something to make her character relevant again as well (surely they could use a good-looking American doctor down there in that hellhole, no?). Sucre will end up in the same prison as the others, and will ally with Michael against the inevitable betrayals by T-Bag, Bellick, and Mahone. C-note is probably gone.

There you have it - the Season 3 synopsis. No charge. :D

The actor who plays C-Note is on a new show next season, so I'm sure he'll stay in Witness Protection indefinitely (unless it doesn't get picked up or is canceled down the line).

What are we going to talk about for the next five months?? :confused: :D

Now we're supposed to believe that the "Company" has been planning to get Michael to Panama the whole time so that he could be imprisoned there? Huh?
Where did you get that from?

Seems to me the plans were changed when evil asian and the old dude had that conversation in the boat.

I thought that was seriously dumb for mike to toss out the money. hopefully linc was able to get it but prob not.

Sucre leaving the hospital and dying on the street was just all out horrible.

Billick fubar on the ground was crazy but funny.

next season will def be all DL for me. unless they change what they gonna do or found some better writers.

I thought that was seriously dumb for mike to toss out the money. hopefully linc was able to get it but prob not.

Sucre leaving the hospital and dying on the street was just all out horrible.

Billick fubar on the ground was crazy but funny.

next season will def be all DL for me. unless they change what they gonna do or found some better writers.

Linc was the supergenius who tossed the money to Kim, not Mike. Why would Linc think they cared about $$?! They have probably spent 3 times as much framing Linc and trying to kill the brothers.

Maybe I was dreaming, but wasn't there an exit door open for Michael to leave the prison?

Maybe I was dreaming, but wasn't there an exit door open for Michael to leave the prison?

The door he came in had the guards the brought him. The other door he walked to appears to be like the courtyard of the prison or something.

Well, something better happen in the first 5 minutes of the season premier or the most unrealistic thing ever seen on this show would be Michael surviving more than 5 minutes in that prison.

This show should/could have ended after the first season. I'm ok that it didn't, but it's getting long in the tooth.. Just end it already (after Season 3)!

This show should/could have ended after the first season. I'm ok that it didn't, but it's getting long in the tooth.. Just end it already (after Season 3)!


Season one was so good, so original...I don't think they will ever recapture that.

i actually liked season 2, but i beleive it will end after season 3, if not that it will just get drown out, not allot more that they can do after S2

i actually liked season 2, but i beleive it will end after season 3, if not that it will just get drown out, not allot more that they can do after S2


S2 was ok - not the well thought out original show that was S1. Still pretty good overall. I don't see a season four coming but who knows?

I kind of thought S2 was a little jumbled and not nearly as focused and streamlined as the first season.

As ridiculous as the show could get I do miss it a little :( It's still better than most of the other shows out there. I like when PB and 24 are back to back. I mean, 24 is a little out there too. I don't really like the PB temporary "replacements".

As ridiculous as the show could get I do miss it a little :( It's still better than most of the other shows out there. I like when PB and 24 are back to back. I mean, 24 is a little out there too. I don't really like the PB temporary "replacements".

I loved the combo of Prison Break and 24.. IMO the perfect match.

I too miss Prison Break.. I just love the craziness of it :D

I loved the combo of Prison Break and 24.. IMO the perfect match.

I too miss Prison Break.. I just love the craziness of it :D


Me too! :D Prison Break and 24 -- what a crazy fun TV night! I have enough "reality" in my rl. A little suspended disbelief is enjoyable :D

We haven't watched Season 2 yet -- does anyone know when the DVD will be released? Will we have a chance to get it and watch it before Season 3 begins?

We haven't watched Season 2 yet -- does anyone know when the DVD will be released? Will we have a chance to get it and watch it before Season 3 begins?

Not if they follow their policy of releasing DVD sets of current series only a couple of weeks before the next season premieres. LOST does it every season. It's extremely short-sighted, and prevents new viewers from getting up to speed and becoming regular viewers on those shows. Makes no sense, but there you are.

We haven't watched Season 2 yet -- does anyone know when the DVD will be released? Will we have a chance to get it and watch it before Season 3 begins?


I think it may be on iTunes. :)

They are on Amazon Unbox, which I can use to get them onto my TiVo Series 2, but at $2 per episode, that would cost more than the DVDs, and be 480i 4:3 instead of the far superior 480p 16:9.

I like Heroes. :D

Next season PB might be pretty good because Michael once again will have to "break out". I thought Season 1 was so good because of the planning and pitfalls that went along w/escaping. Bellick and T-Bag will have to help, even though Michael doesn't like them. And this is one bad-a** prison.