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blitzen102
08-17-06, 10:28 AM
Versus (OLN) NHL HD Game Schedule

2006-2007 Season

All Versus games listed - HD in green bold

DATES TIME (ET) GAMES VIDEO/RECAP
Oct. 4* 7:00 pm Buffalo at Carolina
Oct. 4* 10:00 pm Dallas at Colorado
Oct. 10* 7:00 pm Philadelphia at NY Rangers
Oct. 16 7:00 pm Carolina at Tampa Bay
Oct. 17* 7:00 pm Philadelphia at Buffalo
Oct. 23 7:00 pm Buffalo at Montreal
Oct. 24* 7:00 pm New Jersey at Pittsburgh
Oct. 30 7:00 pm Chicago at Philadelphia
Oct. 31* 7:30 pm San Jose at Florida
Nov. 6 7:00 pm Boston at Atlanta
Nov. 7* 7:00 pm Carolina at New Jersey
Nov. 13 7:30 pm Philadelphia at Pittsburgh
Nov. 14* 7:00 pm New Jersey at NY Rangers
Nov. 20 8:00 pm Colorado at Dallas
Nov. 21* 7:00 pm Carolina at NY Rangers
Nov. 27* 7:00 pm Dallas at Detroit
Nov. 27* 10:00 pm New Jersey at Los Angeles
Nov. 29 8:00 pm San Jose at Minnesota
Dec. 4* 7:00 pm Boston at Montreal
Dec. 5 8:00 pm Chicago at Minnesota
Dec. 11* 7:00 pm Pittsburgh at Washington
Dec. 12 7:00 pm Buffalo at New Jersey
Dec. 18* 7:00 pm Detroit at Columbus
Dec. 19 7:00 pm St. Louis at Pittsburgh
Dec. 26 7:00 pm Boston at Columbus
Jan. 1* 7:00 pm Boston at Toronto
Jan. 2 7:30 pm Chicago at St. Louis
Jan. 9 9:00 pm Detroit at Colorado
Jan. 15* 7:00 pm Montreal at Detroit
Jan. 15* 10:00 pm Colorado at San Jose
Jan. 16 7:30 pm Columbus at Chicago
Jan. 23 8:00 pm Young Stars and NHL Skills
Jan. 24 8:00 pm NHL All-Star Game
Jan. 29* 7:00 pm NY Rangers at Boston
Jan. 30 8:00 pm Nashville at Colorado
Feb. 5* 7:00 pm Detroit at NY Rangers
Feb. 6 8:00 pm Minnesota at Dallas
Feb. 12* 7:00 pm Detroit at Philadelphia
Feb. 13 9:00 pm Anaheim at Colorado
Feb. 19* 7:00 pm Boston at Philadelphia
Feb. 20 7:00 pm Philadelphia at Buffalo
Feb. 26* 7:00 pm Atlanta at Boston
Feb. 26* 10:00 pm Anaheim at San Jose
Feb. 27 7:30pm Dallas at Tampa Bay
Mar. 5* 7:00 pm NY Islanders at NY Rangers
Mar. 6 7:00 pm Colorado at Boston
Mar. 12* 7:00 pm Washington at Atlanta
Mar. 13 7:30 pm Buffalo at Pittsburgh
Mar. 13 10:30 pm Chicago at San Jose
Mar. 19* 7:00 pm Pittsburgh at NY Rangers
Mar. 20 8:00 pm Phoenix at Minnesota
Mar. 26* 7:00 pm Anaheim at Detroit
Mar. 27 7:30pm New Jersey at NY Islanders
Mar. 27 10:30 pm Los Angeles at San Jose
Apr. 2* 8:00 pm St. Louis at Dallas
Apr. 3 7:00 pm Buffalo at Pittsburgh

RemyM
08-17-06, 10:36 AM
I can't believe they aren't doing all games in HD this season. At least all games involving my Rangers are in HD. I hope they have made arrangements for all of these HD games to be shown on INHD.

blitzen102
08-17-06, 10:41 AM
I can't believe they aren't doing all games in HD this season. At least all games involving my Rangers are in HD. I hope they have made arrangements for all of these HD games to be shown on INHD.

I was hoping they'd do all in HD as well.

I CAN'T BELIEVE that they aren't doing any Wild games in HD! :mad:

NorthJersey
08-17-06, 10:44 AM
are the hd games going to appear on inhd again, or is the Versus HD network going to finally launch ?

also, are the Monday night games the only only exclusive night, or were Tuesdays added as well?

Gary*w*
08-17-06, 10:56 AM
All NHL games should be in HD!

Only one Predators game on the network and not in HD. Oh well, when they make the playoffs they will get on.

Berk32
08-17-06, 11:13 AM
I would have been very upset if OLN/Versus had taken a Rangers home game and not done HD (like they did a few times last season).

A few things:

First '*' means exclusive - so that seems to be mostly Mondays, with sometimes Tuesdays.

Second,I look at the schedule, and it seems like most of the HD games are Monday. I look at theNBATV (http://www.nba.com/schedules/national_tv_schedule/NBATV/) schedule (HD schedule not available yet), and they also do monday and tuesday weekly (along withmore days...).

So its very possible they have some sort of deal to switch off nights on InHD, with NHL getting Mondays and NBA getting Tuesdays... I could just be overthinking it though...

Guess there isn't enough official news out there yet to know for sure.....

rcaw
08-17-06, 11:22 AM
I have Dtv and last year DTV carried a few HD NHL games on their special channel 95(?) but only a few. I am seriously considering switching to cable but they do not list INHD as an HD network.

Does anybody know if Dtv will be doing this (special broadcast) on a more consistent basis?

RemyM
08-17-06, 11:28 AM
All games Versus does are exclusive broadcasts in that it is the only place you will be able to see that game.

Their exclusive night starts as Tuesday then switches to Monday after Thanksgiving. On these nights you will not be able to see a NHL game on any other US channel. So if you team is scheduled to play on one of their exclusive nights and they're not doing the game, it won't be televised. I haven't scanned the NHL schedule yet to see if that effects any US teams.

Gary*w*
08-17-06, 11:43 AM
I wish Center Ice would come up with an HD package. . . That comcast would carry.

If the lockout taught me anything it's that even analog hockey is better than no hockey.

bgall
08-17-06, 11:45 AM
they should at least have all their exclusive games in HD

ENDContra
08-17-06, 11:49 AM
Are OLN/Versus HD games carried on Dish? Are they included with any HD package? Considering switching to Dish and I want to verify I wont be losing this channel.

bgall
08-17-06, 11:58 AM
As soon as dish signed the contract for the stanley cup last year dish started carrying the HD games, so no reason not to assume that wont continue next year.

fredfa
08-17-06, 12:05 PM
With more and more RSNs doing games in HD, doing any national NHL games -- which get far fewer viewers -- in SD is really dumb, IMO.

colossus
08-17-06, 12:53 PM
Q's:

1) Blackout rules- do local SD broadcasts STILL pre-empt the national HD feed?

2) Does DirectTV plan to carry OLN in HD w/out buying the NHL CI package? And, if #1's answer is still "yes", does getting NHL CI get around it?

3) I'm debating on switching to Dish, from Direct, very soon. Does Dish offer NHL CI?

Thanks.

beaudot
08-17-06, 03:19 PM
I thought I remembered OLN being given not just exclusive games but exclusive nights starting this year. Anyone know if that is true, and we won't get any RSN or CI games on their exclusive nights. Like Fox Saturday baseball.

kblee
08-17-06, 03:34 PM
I thought I remembered OLN being given not just exclusive games but exclusive nights starting this year. Anyone know if that is true, and we won't get any RSN or CI games on their exclusive nights. Like Fox Saturday baseball.

Re-read post #8

colossus
08-17-06, 03:50 PM
Re-read post #8

Duh, I should have noticed that before I asked. Thanks for pointing that out.

Is Dish going to carry Versus in HD?

bgall
08-17-06, 05:12 PM
Re-read post #12

Bizz06
08-18-06, 03:17 AM
naturally, no nationally televised Sharks games in HD this year

any word on the HDnet NHL schedule?

pappy97
08-18-06, 03:43 AM
naturally, no nationally televised Sharks games in HD this year

any word on the HDnet NHL schedule?

Don't worry, I think the Sharks are on TV in HD on NBC a few times.

chitchatjf
08-18-06, 09:27 AM
3 Bruins gamews NOT in HD including a home game.

GTRRRRRR!

Baldmaga
08-18-06, 12:51 PM
Well, the Phoenix Coyoldies are going to be on once all year, and not in HD. So I won't see one HD Coyotes game this year. Didn't D* put OLN's HD games on ch. 95 last year? I didn't have an HD box for the season, but I recall seeing that somewhere.

squeak49
08-18-06, 02:28 PM
Don't forget that HDNet has been carrying 2 HD games/week for years. I'm sure their schedule will be announced in the future. All hope is not lost. Plus, they seem to have a more diverse selection of teams that OLN/Versus and NBC usually do. And they're framed for 16x9.

Baldmaga
08-18-06, 03:14 PM
Don't forget that HDNet has been carrying 2 HD games/week for years. I'm sure their schedule will be announced in the future. All hope is not lost. Plus, they seem to have a more diverse selection of teams that OLN/Versus and NBC usually do. And they're framed for 16x9.

Does HDNet produce the games? Or do they steal a local carrier and put their graphics on the feed?

bgall
08-18-06, 06:52 PM
HDNet has produced it's own games.

But the games in pittsburgh may have been taken, because they're were a striking number of them

AnthemAZ.HDTV
08-18-06, 07:00 PM
the Phoenix Coyoldies
:D

beaudot
08-18-06, 07:01 PM
Re-read post #8
Does this mean Center Ice will not be showing games on exclusive nights? This has huge ramifications to me as a fan of a Canadian team living in the US who is used to getting most of my team's games. It looks like my team plays several games on these exclusive nights as well.

JMartinko
08-18-06, 08:34 PM
Does this mean Center Ice will not be showing games on exclusive nights? This has huge ramifications to me as a fan of a Canadian team living in the US who is used to getting most of my team's games. It looks like my team plays several games on these exclusive nights as well.
Center Ice on D* did show alternative games last year when they were being played. As I recall, there weren't very many times this happened in the scheduling though. Can't say if it will change this year, although I don't see why it would, especially if the game is on TSN since they (AFAIK) are not covered by the OLN contract.

squeak49
08-19-06, 01:24 AM
I believe the first year of the OLN/Versus contract did not call for exclusive television windows, but future years (starting with this season) did. This was because the entire schedule was released before the TV contract was finalized, and I think they were afraid of pissing off fans even more than we already were after missing a season.

So unless I'm mistaken, the only games available to Center Ice subscribers in the USA(regardless of provider) will be the national game on Versus. It'll be much like the exclusive window that MLB has when Fox games are on nationally - no games are on Extra Innings.

I could be wrong, but I'm about 80% sure I read this when the contract with OLN was signed last summer. This is not a good thing for die-hard hockey fans, IMO, unless the nationally televised game is the only game in the league during those windows. But I really doubt this is the case.

And, for the conflict with NBATV games in HD, InHD started the season by tape-delaying the NHL game until after the NBA game. But they finally came to their senses and gave the NBA priority, put the NHL games on InHD2 live, then were replayed them after the NBA game on InHD. I'd expect it to be the same this season, but I thought I read something about the potential demise of InHD2, so it'll be interesting if that happens.

bigrushhead
08-19-06, 06:05 PM
I just signed up with TW here in Rochester and I dont believe they offer OLN/Versus in HD yet, but i do have INHD 1 & 2.

I also have BEV, and between TSN-HD and CBC HD , its going to be a huge improvement this upcoming season as far as the quantity of games in HD, as last year my Sabres were only in HD a couple times during the regular season, and they are already penciled in for many more games in HD this year! :D

I believe that TSN-HD shares the same HD feed as OLN/Versus and use their own announcers, and between periods shows. At least it seemed to be the case for the Playoffs last year. I`ll bet Ken can correct me on that if I am wrong.

SirJW
08-19-06, 09:11 PM
Considering FOX doesn't produce the baseball game of the week in HD consider ourselves lucky that we get ANY hockey games in HD. But one could only hope that they will be framed in 16x9.

Baldmaga
08-19-06, 09:57 PM
OLN is in an interesting situation. They could start a trend of broadcasting in letterbox for hockey, since they are the lone broadcaster of national hockey

tbb1226
08-19-06, 11:15 PM
OLN is in an interesting situation. They could start a trend of broadcasting in letterbox for hockey, since they are the lone broadcaster of national hockeyExcept that they're not.

NBC is still involved, aren't they?

Baldmaga
08-20-06, 12:37 AM
Except that they're not.

NBC is still involved, aren't they?

I should've said as the national cable provider.

ehren
08-20-06, 09:38 AM
Look At All The Flyers Games In Hd!!! Weeeeeeeeeee Hooooooooooo!!!!!!!

But it's time to go Grey for Bell b/c this OLN exclusive thing is bunk and tons of games are gonna be missing on CI.

complain and complain often to NHL.com, they have a center ice comment e-mail. I have already expressed my disgust.

SirJW
08-20-06, 03:47 PM
Go here to send the NHL a request for Center Ice HD:

http://www.nhl.com/cgi-bin/dbforms.pl?form=2

Gary*w*
08-21-06, 09:20 AM
Thanks for the link.

They have been e-mailed by me.

squeak49
08-21-06, 10:09 AM
I just signed up with TW here in Rochester and I dont believe they offer OLN/Versus in HD yet, but i do have INHD 1 & 2.

I also have BEV, and between TSN-HD and CBC HD , its going to be a huge improvement this upcoming season as far as the quantity of games in HD, as last year my Sabres were only in HD a couple times during the regular season, and they are already penciled in for many more games in HD this year! :D

I believe that TSN-HD shares the same HD feed as OLN/Versus and use their own announcers, and between periods shows. At least it seemed to be the case for the Playoffs last year. I`ll bet Ken can correct me on that if I am wrong.
I'm not sure any carrier offers OLN/Versus in HD full-time yet. InHD 1/2 carries the HD games on Versus.

broadwayblue
09-08-06, 08:32 PM
Quick question about the scheduling. If I remember correctly the OLN contract called for the league to schedule only 1 game on Monday nights and that game would be nationally televised on OLN (now Versus.) Since the contract was signed to close to the beginning of the season last year it was supposedly going to go into effect this season. What ever happened with this?

BBQ-AllStar
09-08-06, 09:21 PM
Here's the schedule of games on HDNet through the end of the year...looks like a game every Thursday and Saturday! WooHoo!!


Date Time (Eastern/Pacific) Teams
Thursday, October 5 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT Philadelphia Flyers @ Pittsburgh Penguins
Saturday, October 7 10:30 PM ET / 7:30 PM PT St. Louis Blues @ Los Angeles Kings
Thursday, October 12 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Pittsburgh Penguins @ N.Y. Rangers
Saturday, October 14 10:30 PM ET / 7:30 PM PT Dallas Stars @ Los Angeles Kings
Thursday, October 19 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Washington Capitals @ Atlanta Thrashers
Saturday, October 21 10:00 PM ET / 7:00 PM PT Dallas Stars @ Phoenix Coyotes
Thursday, October 26 8:00 PM ET / 5:00 PM PT San Jose Sharks @ Nashville Predators
Saturday, October 28 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Pittsburgh Penguins @ Philadelphia Flyers
Thursday, November 2 8:30 PM ET / 5:30 PM PT Detroit Red Wings @ Chicago Blackhawks
Saturday, November 4 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Columbus Blue Jackets @ Detroit Red Wings
Thursday, November 9 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT N.Y. Islanders @ Philadelphia Flyers
Saturday, November 11 9:00 PM ET / 6:00 PM PT San Jose Sharks @ Phoenix Coyotes
Thursday, November 16 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Toronto Maple Leafs @ Boston Bruins
Saturday, November 18 8:00 PM ET / 5:00 PM PT Colorado Avalanche @ Minnesota Wild
Thursday, November 23 8:00 PM ET / 5:00 PM PT Canucks @ Nashville Predators
Saturday, November 25 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT N.Y. Rangers @ Pittsburgh Penguins
Thursday, November 30 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Dallas Stars @ Washington Capitals
Saturday, December 2 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT San Jose Sharks @ Detroit Red Wings
Thursday, December 7 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT St. Louis Blues @ Detroit Red Wings
Saturday, December 9 10:30 PM ET / 7:30 PM PT Colorado Avalanche @ Los Angeles Kings
Thursday, December 14 8:30 PM ET / 5:30 PM PT N.Y. Rangers @ Dallas Stars
Saturday, December 16 9:00 PM ET / 6:00 PM PT Calgary Flames @ Phoenix Coyotes
Thursday, December 21 9:00 PM ET / 6:00 PM PT Edmonton Oilers @ Phoenix Coyotes
Saturday, December 23 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT N.Y. Rangers @ Tampa Bay Lightning
Thursday, December 28 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT Philadelphia Flyers @ Tampa Bay Lightning
Saturday, December 30 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT Montreal Canadiens @ Tampa Bay Lightning

Baldmaga
09-08-06, 09:29 PM
Four Coyoldies games???

OUTRAGEOUS

BBQ-AllStar
09-08-06, 09:43 PM
Four Coyoldies games???

OUTRAGEOUS

Gretzky....Jovo...Nolan...Roenick...Joseph...

Some pretty good additions this year....might be a fun team to watch.

beaudot
09-09-06, 12:34 AM
Gretzky....Jovo...Nolan...Roenick...Joseph...

Some pretty good additions this year....might be a fun team to watch.

That was not a successful retort to calling them the Coyoldies!

SirJW
09-09-06, 03:40 AM
Go here to send the NHL a request for Center Ice HD:

http://www.nhl.com/cgi-bin/dbforms.pl?form=2
Never got a reply...

BBQ-AllStar
09-09-06, 02:05 PM
That was not a successful retort to calling them the Coyoldies!

OK..how about Nagy, Comrie, Doan, Saprykin, Kvasha, Michalek, & Devereaux :)

RemyM
09-11-06, 10:17 AM
Quick question about the scheduling. If I remember correctly the OLN contract called for the league to schedule only 1 game on Monday nights and that game would be nationally televised on OLN (now Versus.) Since the contract was signed to close to the beginning of the season last year it was supposedly going to go into effect this season. What ever happened with this?

It's in effect this season. The exclusive night is Tuesday until Thanksgiving then switches to Monday. If your team is playing on Versus' exclusive night, and they aren't doing the game, it won't be televised. This applies to USA based teams only. Teams in Canada are not effected since Versus does not broadcast NHL games in Canada. So there are games between two Canada teams on Versus' exclusive nights.

pkwjr
09-11-06, 12:01 PM
OK..how about Nagy, Comrie, Doan, Saprykin, Kvasha, Michalek, & Devereaux :)

Devereaux is no longer a Yote. He has been invited to Wings camp.

KenA
09-11-06, 03:29 PM
Here's the schedule of games on HDNet through the end of the year...looks like a game every Thursday and Saturday! WooHoo!!
Just a reminder that HDNet's coverage is not exclusive and your home team games will be blacked out in favor of your local RSN feed. They do replay the game later and the replay is not subject to blackout.

SirJW
09-11-06, 03:45 PM
Kukla, is there any chance Center Ice will offer HD feeds this season? How about games on INHD like Baseball this summer?

pkwjr
09-11-06, 04:07 PM
Kukla, is there any chance Center Ice will offer HD feeds this season? How about games on INHD like Baseball this summer?

I am in the process of gathering some questions like this and will follow up with the answers as soon as possible.

Hughmc
09-17-06, 04:56 PM
Any updates yet? Since I have switched to a local fiber cable company they carry HDnet...and INHD 1/2. I am hoping INHD shows some games in HD.

roachxp
09-17-06, 07:28 PM
Go here to send the NHL a request for Center Ice HD:

http://www.nhl.com/cgi-bin/dbforms.pl?form=2

At least E* will have Center Ice and NBA Pass in HD :)

SirJW
09-18-06, 05:45 AM
At least E* will have Center Ice and NBA Pass in HD :)

Please expand. HD local games? Where did you get this info?

RemyM
09-18-06, 10:17 AM
Any updates yet? Since I have switched to a local fiber cable company they carry HDnet...and INHD 1/2. I am hoping INHD shows some games in HD.

INHD will carry the games that Versus does in HD.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/jacobson091606.htm
HDNet produces their own NHL games on Thursdays and Saturdays.
http://www.hd.net/nhlinhd.html

colossus
09-18-06, 11:45 AM
Just a reminder that HDNet's coverage is not exclusive and your home team games will be blacked out in favor of your local RSN feed. They do replay the game later and the replay is not subject to blackout.

...regardless as to whether or not it's a home game, or even if it's carried. Again- three years now. Idiotic.

Gary Bettman has his head up his @ss.

SirJW
09-18-06, 02:04 PM
...regardless as to whether or not it's a home game, or even if it's carried. Again- three years now. Idiotic.

Gary Bettman has his head up his @ss.

Agree, at the very least the local FSNHD (Or insert local) should get the feed so there is no need to black it out.

Hughmc
09-18-06, 02:36 PM
I had games blacked out here in Oregon. We have no NHL team, nothing even close and no issue of loss of anything. It makes zero sense. Blacking us out here in Oregon for some Pittsburgh game in HD like they did last year is illogical.

roachxp
09-18-06, 04:52 PM
Please expand. HD local games? Where did you get this info?

On the uplink last week for the 15 HD RSN's on E* there was also uplink on channels 387-300 for NHL HD and NBA HD, 7 channel for Center Ice and 6 for NBA Pass.

Blacktruck
09-18-06, 07:12 PM
On the uplink last week for the 15 HD RSN's on E* there was also uplink on channels 387-300 for NHL HD and NBA HD, 7 channel for Center Ice and 6 for NBA Pass.

Is this mpeg 4? I may have to upgrade sooner than expected!

roachxp
09-18-06, 11:59 PM
Is this mpeg 4? I may have to upgrade sooner than expected!

Yup

broadwayblue
09-19-06, 12:13 AM
It's in effect this season. The exclusive night is Tuesday until Thanksgiving then switches to Monday. If your team is playing on Versus' exclusive night, and they aren't doing the game, it won't be televised. This applies to USA based teams only. Teams in Canada are not effected since Versus does not broadcast NHL games in Canada. So there are games between two Canada teams on Versus' exclusive nights.

So you're saying that while Versus will only be broadcasting 1 game on Tuesday nights, there will be more than one game being played...with all the other games being blacked out on RSN's? If that's the case it absolutely sucks. I've been watching every Rangers game (that I don't attend) for years now. All the sudden I can't watch them when they play on Tuesday nights? You've got to be kidding me. I guess I thought that they would only be scheduling 1 game to be played on that exclusive night...with it being the nationally televised event. Good job NHL. :(

RemyM
09-19-06, 09:10 AM
The Rangers are not effected by this. Everyone of their games will be televised this season.
http://www.msgnetwork.com/Rangers_tv_schedule.jsp

RemyM
09-19-06, 09:46 AM
Curiously on Versus schedule they list 10/31 as an exclusive night.
http://www.olntv.com/nw/article/view/1367/?tf=NHLArticleWrapper.tpl
Yet the Islanders are hosting Chicago on that night at the same time and it's scheduled for FSN NY.
http://www.msgnetwork.com/Islanders_tv_schedule.jsp
Don't know how that can be.
I didn't come across any other games between two US teams that play at the same time as a Versus game on their exclusive night.

broadwayblue
09-19-06, 10:22 AM
The Rangers are not effected by this. Everyone of their games will be televised this season.
http://www.msgnetwork.com/Rangers_tv_schedule.jsp

Thanks, that's what I thought. I'm still a little confused about who is actually affected by this exclusive game night thing...but as long as I can watch all the games that matter to me most I'll be happy.

RemyM
09-19-06, 10:52 AM
It appears that the NHL did a very good job not scheduling games between two US teams on Versus exclusive nights at the same time they are broadcasting. The way teams were effected is that they just couldn't play on those nights. The Rangers used to have a lot of Monday night home games, but have hardly any this season.

broadwayblue
09-19-06, 10:54 AM
It appears that the NHL did a very good job not scheduling games between two US teams on Versus exclusive nights at the same time they are broadcasting. The way teams were effected is that they just couldn't play on those nights. The Rangers used to have a lot of Monday night home games, but have hardly any this season.

And this is probably the exact reason why I thought this season's schedule sucks. With relatively few games on these exclusive nights the % of weekend games is up considerably. Makes sense though.

dvwannab
09-19-06, 11:11 AM
guys help me out here. i didnt quite understand the final answer on whether or not D* will put HD games on ch-95 or E* on their available HD channel and exclusivity and all that stuff. Thanks.

roachxp
09-19-06, 01:20 PM
guys help me out here. i didnt quite understand the final answer on whether or not D* will put HD games on ch-95 or E* on their available HD channel and exclusivity and all that stuff. Thanks.

D* will have one RSN HD game on channel 95 base on what Sports season pass you buy for now due to the RSNs being on spotbeam, E* will have all the HD RSN's available on 61.5 and 129 if so sub to certain sport season passes. You will need both sat locations to get the max HD games due to bandwith issues for now.

Currently on E* it will be NHL channels 387-393 and NBA 394-399. E* will also have games only for OLN-HD on 9463, and NBA TV HD on9466

SirJW
09-19-06, 02:09 PM
roachxp, do you have a link for this info?

Any chance digi cable will show regional HD's?

If not it looks like someone may be moving to E* but I want to make sure all the x's and o's are crossed b4 I make the move and or pay the first quarter of CI to TWC to know for sure…

Thank for all the info.
-JW

roachxp
09-19-06, 02:50 PM
roachxp, do you have a link for this info?

Any chance digi cable will show regional HD's?

If not it looks like someone may be moving to E* but I want to make sure all the x's and o's are crossed b4 I make the move and or pay the first quarter of CI to TWC to know for sure…

Thank for all the info.
-JW

http://www.dishchannelchart.com/

I think E* is the only tv company that has the RSNs in HD for sports packages right now. Once D* get the bandwith with the new birds in 2007 maybe they will go the same way. I know Comcast is trying to work on a deal to add the SD RSNs to their lineup but so far no progress.

SirJW
09-20-06, 04:00 AM
Very cool, thanks for the info...

Blacktruck
09-24-06, 01:33 PM
D* will have one RSN HD game on channel 95 base on what Sports season pass you buy for now due to the RSNs being on spotbeam, E* will have all the HD RSN's available on 61.5 and 129 if so sub to certain sport season passes. You will need both sat locations to get the max HD games due to bandwith issues for now.

Currently on E* it will be NHL channels 387-393 and NBA 394-399. E* will also have games only for OLN-HD on 9463, and NBA TV HD on9466
So Roach, am I going to have to subscribe to a package that offers oln/versus, such as the DishHD Gold in order to get the HD feed on 9463? I am currently subscribed to the Silver which doesnt offer oln/versus yet Will my Center Ice subscription allow me to get the HD RSN feeds? If so which ones? I am located in southern CT
Thanks for all the info you've provided!!

kmeisenbach
09-24-06, 03:20 PM
Does HDNet produce the games? Or do they steal a local carrier and put their graphics on the feed?

HDNet produces all of the games in hidef, and with the freedom to frame the shots in 16X9 because we don't have an SD audience to worry about.


Date Time (Eastern/Pacific) Teams
Thursday, October 5 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT Philadelphia Flyers @ Pittsburgh Penguins
Thursday, October 5 11:30 PM ET / 8:30 PM PT Philadelphia Flyers @ Pittsburgh Penguins
Special Encore Presentation
Saturday, October 7 10:30 PM ET / 7:30 PM PT St. Louis Blues @ Los Angeles Kings
Thursday, October 12 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Pittsburgh Penguins @ N.Y. Rangers
Saturday, October 14 10:30 PM ET / 7:30 PM PT Dallas Stars @ Los Angeles Kings
Thursday, October 19 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Washington Capitals @ Atlanta Thrashers
Saturday, October 21 10:00 PM ET / 7:00 PM PT Dallas Stars @ Phoenix Coyotes
Thursday, October 26 8:00 PM ET / 5:00 PM PT San Jose Sharks @ Nashville Predators
Saturday, October 28 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Pittsburgh Penguins @ Philadelphia Flyers
Thursday, November 2 8:30 PM ET / 5:30 PM PT Detroit Red Wings @ Chicago Blackhawks
Saturday, November 4 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Columbus Blue Jackets @ Detroit Red Wings
Thursday, November 9 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT N.Y. Islanders @ Philadelphia Flyers
Saturday, November 11 9:00 PM ET / 6:00 PM PT San Jose Sharks @ Phoenix Coyotes
Thursday, November 16 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Toronto Maple Leafs @ Boston Bruins
Saturday, November 18 8:00 PM ET / 5:00 PM PT Colorado Avalanche @ Minnesota Wild
Thursday, November 23 8:00 PM ET / 5:00 PM PT Canucks @ Nashville Predators
Saturday, November 25 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT N.Y. Rangers @ Pittsburgh Penguins
Thursday, November 30 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT Dallas Stars @ Washington Capitals
Saturday, December 2 7:00 PM ET / 4:00 PM PT San Jose Sharks @ Detroit Red Wings
Thursday, December 7 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT St. Louis Blues @ Detroit Red Wings
Saturday, December 9 10:30 PM ET / 7:30 PM PT Colorado Avalanche @ Los Angeles Kings
Thursday, December 14 8:30 PM ET / 5:30 PM PT N.Y. Rangers @ Dallas Stars
Saturday, December 16 9:00 PM ET / 6:00 PM PT Calgary Flames @ Phoenix Coyotes
Thursday, December 21 9:00 PM ET / 6:00 PM PT Edmonton Oilers @ Phoenix Coyotes
Saturday, December 23 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT N.Y. Rangers @ Tampa Bay Lightning
Thursday, December 28 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT Philadelphia Flyers @ Tampa Bay Lightning
Saturday, December 30 7:30 PM ET / 4:30 PM PT Montreal Canadiens @ Tampa Bay Lightning

bgall
09-24-06, 05:30 PM
So Roach, am I going to have to subscribe to a package that offers oln/versus, such as the DishHD Gold in order to get the HD feed on 9463? I am currently subscribed to the Silver which doesnt offer oln/versus yet Will my Center Ice subscription allow me to get the HD RSN feeds? If so which ones? I am located in southern CT
Thanks for all the info you've provided!!

yes you need oln/versus to see oln/versus in HD, and that's currently in gold

roachxp
09-24-06, 10:29 PM
So Roach, am I going to have to subscribe to a package that offers oln/versus, such as the DishHD Gold in order to get the HD feed on 9463? I am currently subscribed to the Silver which doesnt offer oln/versus yet Will my Center Ice subscription allow me to get the HD RSN feeds? If so which ones? I am located in southern CT
Thanks for all the info you've provided!!

Yes you can get the RSN HD feeds with CenterIce on 61.5 and 129. If you can and have both locations then you will have the max HD games of 4 to 7 (Depand on how many games are in HD on NBAHD FSNs.

Only 3 or 4 active per TP at a time
NHLHD 387 30 61.5° E*3
NHLHD 388 30 61.5° E*3
NHLHD 389 30 61.5° E*3
NHLHD 390 8 129° E*5
NHLHD 391 8 129° E*5
NHLHD 392 8 129° E*5
NHLHD 393 8 129° E*5


Now what bother me is the HD game are on 61.5 E*3 , what about Rainbow1 at 61.5 it still has plenty on bandwith available why not add some more HD RSNs. I just want my NESNHD for the B's.

Blacktruck
09-25-06, 07:44 PM
How do I check to see if I'm picking up 129? I am using a VIP 622 Sorry for such a newb question!

HDNair
09-29-06, 01:25 AM
Well those of you who live in big East Coast markets light up a cigar because OLN has their lips firmly wrapped around your you know what. Me being a lowly fan in Colorado, we get ZERO HD games on OLN. Not only that, but normally the local affiliate Altitude would carry all the home games in HD, and OLN is ROBBING us of four HD broadcasts. OLN sucks. What's that, you want me to call it "Versus"? F**k you OLN!! F**k you and f**k the NHL for not making a deal with a real sports network.

Hughmc
09-29-06, 02:18 AM
Well those of you who live in big East Coast markets light up a cigar because OLN has their lips firmly wrapped around your you know what. Me being a lowly fan in Colorado, we get ZERO HD games on OLN. Not only that, but normally the local affiliate Altitude would carry all the home games in HD, and OLN is ROBBING us of four HD broadcasts. OLN sucks. What's that, you want me to call it "Versus"? F**k you OLN!! F**k you and f**k the NHL for not making a deal with a real sports network.


I am with you all the way. All this does is chase away hockey fans which is exactly opposite of what the NHL needs right now. Games in HD are a great boost to hockey. These exclusive right contracts are pointless from a fan's perspective. We just want to watch hockey.

kdrabik
09-30-06, 12:49 PM
According to my H20, Friday's Bruins/Panthers game is scheduled for channel 95...might be NESN or Fox Sports

Magic8Ball, any word on seeing my Sabres on Wednesday on channel 95?

BBQ-AllStar
09-30-06, 01:20 PM
Ya, I noticed that too...the OLN HD game on opening night is not listed....yet. I'm gonna call D* and see what's up with the OLN HD games this year...

colossus
10-03-06, 07:23 PM
Ya, I noticed that too...the OLN HD game on opening night is not listed....yet. I'm gonna call D* and see what's up with the OLN HD games this year...

Not listed on Dish Network either. Should be 9463, right? Help?

colossus
10-03-06, 07:26 PM
E* will also have games only for OLN-HD on 9463, and NBA TV HD on9466

Where did you see this? The guide is not showing anything for OLN-HD or Versus HD tomorrow night.

RemyM
10-03-06, 09:13 PM
Wednesday Versus HD game is Buffalo vs Carolina, according to others in NY it was showing on 95.

bwaldron
10-03-06, 09:54 PM
Wednesday Versus HD game is Buffalo vs Carolina, according to others in NY it was showing on 95.

It is showing on the schedule for 95 on my HR10-250. The Panthers-Bruins game on Friday has disappeared for now, but I expect it will appear again. Guide data for 95 is always a bit of a mess.

colossus
10-04-06, 08:38 AM
It is showing on the schedule for 95 on my HR10-250. The Panthers-Bruins game on Friday has disappeared for now, but I expect it will appear again. Guide data for 95 is always a bit of a mess.

I'm on Dish Network, sorry for the confusion. 9463 doesn't show on my guide at all. I thought I didn't need CI for OLN/Versus HD.

Any thoughts?

DanB474
10-10-06, 06:17 AM
I'm on Dish Network, sorry for the confusion. 9463 doesn't show on my guide at all. I thought I didn't need CI for OLN/Versus HD.

Any thoughts?

Last year, 9463 came online during the playoffs after E* got OLN back from the contract dispute. 9463 was called NHL-HD on the EPG. It showed all of the playoff games on OLN in HD on that channel. So far that channel is not back. You do not need NHL-CI to get the OLN (VS) games in HD. You just need E* to show the HD feed. So far they are not. Hopefully soon.

azdevil
10-11-06, 12:56 AM
Anyone know how long the NHL contract is with OLN (Versus)? Maybe it'll go back to espn sometime soon. One can hope. I dont like OLN one bit. Besides the whole fiasco of no one carrying OLN HD, there's also the annoying little thing during the playoffs where you miss half the west coast game if the east coast game goes into overtime. Lame. :mad:

Edit: the NHL contract with OLN is for 3 yrs extendable to 6. please correct me if I'm wrong. either way, that's gawd aweful. I shouldnt say NO ONE carries OLN HD. I know Cox Phoenix shows it on INHD. But I know E* and many other cable providers dont.

RemyM
11-03-06, 10:30 AM
Just a heads up for those of us with cable. Versus Tuesday night HD coverage of Carolina @ NJ will be shown live on INHD2 at 7:00 EST, not INHD. INHD is showing a NBA TV game that night. For those of you who don't have INHD2 anymore, you'll have to wait until 11:00 EST to see it on INHD tape delayed. Hockey fans get screwed again.

jmj713
11-03-06, 11:14 AM
DirecTV shows Versus HD games on Channel 95.

lokar
11-03-06, 11:32 AM
But the last couple of weeks they have shown it undercover, meaning that it didn't show up in the guide at all, you had to tell your receiver to directly go to channel 95 and happen to know that there was an OLN HD game that night.

jmj713
11-03-06, 12:14 PM
Well that's easily checked: http://www.versus.tv/nw/article/view/1367/?tf=NHLArticleWrapper.tpl (all HD games are noted).

Berk32
11-08-06, 02:06 PM
After comparing the NBAHD and VersusHD schedules, here are the nights where the NHL game (I assume) will aired delayed on INHD:

12/4 - Boston @ Montreal
12/11 - Pittsburgh @ Washington
1/23 - All Star Skills Competition
2/5 - Detroit @ NY Rangers
2/12 - Detroit @Philadelphia
2/26 - Atlanta @ Boston
3/19 - Pittsburgh @ NY Rangers
3/26 - Anaheim @ Detroit

HDNair
11-20-06, 01:39 PM
Here's an odd blurb from today's Rocky Mountain News (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nhl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23920_5157188,00.html):

Sidelight: Versus is going to employ a high-definition camera that will run along a rail just above the glass. The "Rail Cam" will put television viewers closer to the action and provide additional replay angles.

But as far as I can tell, they're not actually planning to air this game (Avs vs. Stars) in HD...

RemyM
11-20-06, 01:56 PM
Tonight is just the trial run for the rail cam.

VERSUS TO DEBUT HIGH-DEF RAIL CAMERA DURING COLORADO vs. DALLAS NHL MATCHUP ON NOVEMBER 20 AT AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER IN DALLAS

VERSUS First to Use Rail Cam in National U.S. NHL Telecast

STAMFORD, CT (November 16, 2006)—VERSUS, the national cable television home of the NHL, today announced that the network will debut a high-definition rail camera (Rail Cam) on Monday, November 20, when the Colorado Avalanche take on the Dallas Stars at 8 p.m. ET at the American Airlines Center in Dallas, host of the 2007 NHL All-Star Celebration. The Rail Cam, which was developed and supplied by the technology firm of Fletcher Chicago, runs on a small rail system situated just above the glass on one side of the arena. The camera shot will be used extensively during live-action play, as well as in replay sequences. VERSUS is using the Monday, November 20, game as a trial run for the Rail Cam and, if the new technology proves successful, VERSUS will use the Rail Cam during the NHL All-Star Game on Wednesday, January 24, in Dallas.

“The Rail Cam gives viewers a unique perspective, bringing them significantly closer to the action," said Marty Ehrlich, Vice President of Production and Executive Producer for VERSUS. “The camera gives viewers an appreciation for the speed and strategy of the game with the way it tracks the action on the ice. We’re excited to introduce this new technology and we could not have done it without the help of the NHL, the Dallas Stars and the dedicated operations staff at the American Airlines Center.”

Although there have been some experiments with Rail Cam in other hockey telecasts—previously during the nationally televised Frozen Four, a college level hockey tournament—this is the first time that the camera is being used extensively in a nationally televised NHL game in the U.S. It is also the first time that the Rail Cam has been used in native high-definition. Recent improvements to the Rail Cam provide better and smoother-moving shots than ever before.

VERSUS is the national cable television home of the National Hockey League (NHL), presenting 54 regular-season games this season. The schedule includes a Game of the Week, wherein VERSUS is the only place on television to catch an NHL game in the U.S. at that time. With one exception, every Game of the Week will be produced in high def. Additionally, the Young Stars NHL Skills game and the NHL All-Star game as well as select early-round playoff coverage, all of the Conference Finals and Stanley Cup Final games will be available in high def.

VERSUS (VERSUS.com) celebrates real competition in all its forms. The network is the national cable home of the National Hockey League (NHL) and the Stanley Cup Playoffs as well as best-in-class events like The Tour de France, the America's Cup, the Dakar Rally, the Professional Bull Riders (PBR), Professional Boxing, the Boston Marathon, AMA Motocross and Davis Cup. Now in more than 70 million homes, the network features the best field sports programming on television and is a destination for sports fans, athletes and sportsmen to find exclusive, competitive events that audiences can't find elsewhere. The network offers unique, competition-themed original programming and is the exclusive home of Survivor in syndication. VERSUS, a wholly owned company of Comcast Corporation (NASDAQ: CMCSA, CMCSK), is distributed via cable systems and satellite operators throughout the United States.

http://www.versus.tv/nw/article/view/24375/?tf=OLNPressCenter_articles.tpl&UserDef=true

RemyM
11-20-06, 02:02 PM
After comparing the NBAHD and VersusHD schedules, here are the nights where the NHL game (I assume) will aired delayed on INHD:

12/4 - Boston @ Montreal
12/11 - Pittsburgh @ Washington
1/23 - All Star Skills Competition
2/5 - Detroit @ NY Rangers
2/12 - Detroit @Philadelphia
2/26 - Atlanta @ Boston
3/19 - Pittsburgh @ NY Rangers
3/26 - Anaheim @ Detroit

This will be a mute point once the Versus HD channel debuts it January.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=751387

Berk32
11-20-06, 02:15 PM
This will be a mute point once the Versus HD channel debuts it January.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=751387

Yes, we know now that the channel will be created...

Question though.... will InHD still be allowed to show the game? (is there some contract that Versus would break by taking the games away mid-season?)

I'd guess not every cable provider will add the channel right away... especially if the games can still be on InHD.

BBQ-AllStar
11-20-06, 02:33 PM
:mad:

Figures...DirecTV won't be showing this game tonight...instead the Preds vs Blue jackets is on CH95...

Good planning on Versus's & DirecTV's part!

RemyM
11-20-06, 02:37 PM
Tonight's game was never scheduled as a HD game. So they are testing the HD Rail-Cam on a game they are not broadcasting in HD. I guess only the production truck will see it in HD.

kaa1954
11-20-06, 02:38 PM
Tonight's game on Versus is not in HD...tommorrow's game Rangers-Hurricanes is. I think DirecTV will show it.

RemyM
11-20-06, 02:41 PM
Yes, we know now that the channel will be created...

Question though.... will InHD still be allowed to show the game? (is there some contract that Versus would break by taking the games away mid-season?)

I'd guess not every cable provider will add the channel right away... especially if the games can still be on InHD.

I don't know the contract specifics, but I would be surprised if INHD kept showing the games after the new channel is created. Otherwise, what would be the incentive for other cable companies to add it.

BBQ-AllStar
11-20-06, 02:45 PM
Tonight's game was never scheduled as a HD game. So they are testing the HD Rail-Cam on a game they are not broadcasting in HD. I guess only the production truck will see it in HD.

That's funny....why advertise it? I guess they want to "test" it out before they implement it.

Berk32
11-20-06, 02:52 PM
I don't know the contract specifics, but I would be surprised if INHD kept showing the games after the new channel is created. Otherwise, what would be the incentive for other cable companies to add it.

Well... the new channel will be Golf-HD as well... along with other potential Versus-HD content

And I'd guess InHD would show alternate, "normal" programming for the systems with a full time Versus/Golf HD... sort of like the situation currently with the NFL Network HD games

(It's not just a situation of a cable company using InHD to show the NFL Network HD feed - this thursday night's nfl game is listed on the inhd website, just not on the schedule....)

chitchatjf
11-20-06, 08:07 PM
Well... the new channel will be Golf-HD as well... along with other potential Versus-HD content

And I'd guess InHD would show alternate, "normal" programming for the systems with a full time Versus/Golf HD... sort of like the situation currently with the NFL Network HD games

(It's not just a situation of a cable company using InHD to show the NFL Network HD feed - this thursday night's nfl game is listed on the inhd website, just not on the schedule....)

One good thing Comcast is doing is If a system offers Verses AND golf channel they get the new HD channel for FREE!

HDNair
11-20-06, 08:27 PM
The rail cam sucks. Bad.

impronto
11-21-06, 12:58 AM
i checked the rail cam on replays tonight and man did it suck. Not to mention it cluttered the viewing area of the ice having a thick black line the whole way down the ice. They should have the camera on the other side's boards. Terrible.

rkunces
11-21-06, 01:43 AM
Tonight's game on Versus is not in HD...tommorrow's game Rangers-Hurricanes is. I think DirecTV will show it.

As of right now its not showing up on my guide.

RoyGBiv
11-21-06, 08:55 AM
Tonight's game is neither on the on-line-guide of the off-air guide. I am sure hoping it shows up later!

SMK

jefbal99
11-21-06, 10:06 AM
Tonight's game is neither on the on-line-guide of the off-air guide. I am sure hoping it shows up later!

SMK

I consider myself very lucky as the Comcast guide for InHD actually shows the NBA and NHL HD games, however, I deal with the same thing as you regarding the NFL Network. If I see something on NFL that was done in HD, I always check InHD because more than half the time they are showing the HD replay.

RemyM
11-21-06, 10:58 AM
i checked the rail cam on replays tonight and man did it suck. Not to mention it cluttered the viewing area of the ice having a thick black line the whole way down the ice. They should have the camera on the other side's boards. Terrible.

I agree that both the rail, and sometimes the camera, blocked the viewing area. Also, much of the stuff it showed was to close to the action. The problem with putting it on the other side is that there is not continuos glass for it to be mounted on because of the benches. I say dump it.

sigma957
11-21-06, 03:06 PM
Last night's "rail cam" telecast was probably the worst hockey telecast I have ever seen. The rail cam pictures (in SD at least) looked fuzzy and the camera could not pan fast enough to follow the action. The rail cam was often in the way of the "regular" camera shots, and the rails along the side were very annoying.

CBC experimented with the rail cam during the outdoor "heritage" game a couple of years ago, but as far as I know they have not used it again.

Hopefully, the rail cam will go the way of the Fox glowing puck...

RoyGBiv
11-21-06, 03:58 PM
I just checked when I got home from work, and the VS game tonight, Carolina v. NYR is listed as being on 95 in HD.

I agree about the rail cam. I remember it from that Heritage game (it was simulcast in the US on HDNet as I recall). It was not very good then, and it's not very good now. The only time a camera like that has seemed a good idea to me was when it was used at the Olympics for the (long track) speed skating races.

SMK

giantfan9
11-27-06, 12:24 PM
Tonights games indicate that Dallas vs. Detroit is in HD and New Jersey vs. Los Angeles is not. However, on D*, it indicates that both are on Channel 95 (D* HD channel).

Anyone know if the Devils vs. Kings will really be in HD?

Berk32
11-27-06, 12:31 PM
Tonights games indicate that Dallas vs. Detroit is in HD and New Jersey vs. Los Angeles is not. However, on D*, it indicates that both are on Channel 95 (D* HD channel).

Anyone know if the Devils vs. Kings will really be in HD?

http://www.versus.tv/nw/article/view/1367/?tf=NHLArticleWrapper.tpl

I would think this is accurate. So 2nd game will not be HD

RemyM
12-04-06, 04:43 PM
Attention cable subscribers, tonight’s Versus-HD coverage of the Bruins @ Canadians will be live at 7:00 EST on INHD2. For those of you without INHD2 you will have to wait until 11:00 EST if you want to see it in HD for the delayed telecast on INHD.

http://www.inhd.com/product.jsp?prodId=53712&mp=cb2

jmj713
12-04-06, 05:47 PM
And it'll be on DirecTV channel 95.

SirJW
12-04-06, 07:35 PM
2nites game looks fantastic Live on INHD2.

Petteri
12-04-06, 07:55 PM
Attention cable subscribers, tonight’s Versus-HD coverage of the Bruins @ Canadians will be live at 7:00 EST on INHD2. For those of you without INHD2 you will have to wait until 11:00 EST if you want to see it in HD for the delayed telecast on INHD.

http://www.inhd.com/product.jsp?prodId=53712&mp=cb2

Why can't Comcast (at least here in South Florida) show this on the HDSE channel. I mean this USED TO BE INHD2 for crying out loud! The channel just sits there with the INHD logo, what a waste.... :(

EDIT: Just found the Golf/Versus HD channel thread that will seemingly solve this!

RemyM
12-05-06, 11:04 AM
Same deal next Monday for Pittsburgh vs Washington.
Live on INHD2, tape delayed on INHD.
http://www.inhd.com/product.jsp?prodId=53713&mp=cr1

SirJW
12-11-06, 01:35 PM
Ovechkin vs. Crosby 2nite!

RemyM
12-11-06, 01:55 PM
National Telecast to Highlight Marquee Match up Between Two
Sophomore Stars When the Washington Capitals Take on the Pittsburgh Penguins
Puck Drops Monday, December 11 at 7 p.m. ET

Stamford, Conn. (December 7, 2006) – On Monday, December 11, two of the NHL’s biggest stars – the Pittsburgh Penguins’ Sidney Crosby and the Washington Capitals’ Alex Ovechkin – will face-off in their first-ever primetime, nationally televised contest on VERSUS. The match-up of Crosby, the current leading vote-getter in the Eastern Conference All-Star Balloting, and Ovechkin pits two of the next generation of NHL superstars head-to-head in their first confrontation of the ’06-07 season.

“This match up rivals some of the biggest in sport,” said Marc Fein, SVP of Programming and Production for VERSUS. “VERSUS is going to get our fans as close to the action as possible when two of the game's brightest stars go head-to-head for the first time this season – and the first time ever on national television.”

In addition to producing the game in HD, VERSUS will be celebrating this monumental evening by presenting several special enhancements to that night’s telecast. In addition to expert analysis and in-depth profiles of both players, both Crosby and Ovechkin will wear microphones for the entirety of the game, giving viewers a first-hand experience of the action and the emotions on the ice. Additionally, Crosby and Ovechkin have agreed to be interviewed during that night’s game, as have members of the coaching staffs. Viewers will also hear from Penguins’ prodigy Evgeni Malkin, who will be interviewed alongside his countryman, and opponent for the evening, Alex Ovechkin. This interview will prove to be a unique added specialty to the evening, as Ovechkin will serve as translator for Malkin during the course of the interview.

“This is one of those special match ups that generates more excitement the closer you get to game day.” said Mike Baker, Coordinating Producer for VERSUS. “I’ve been producing hockey games for over 25 years, and this one has the same allure and anticipation to it of any I have seen, including Gretzky against Lemieux.”

http://www.versus.com/nw/article/view/25882/?tf=OLNPressCenter_articles.tpl&UserDef=true

jmj713
12-11-06, 04:37 PM
One for the DVR!

stw2323
01-01-07, 07:11 PM
Dump Versus, already. ESPN was so much better. They offer more widespread distribution of games making them available to more people and much more HD coverage. OLN and Versus is a complete failure to the NHL in my mind.

hunter65
01-02-07, 09:54 AM
When does the Versus/NHL agreement end? Hopefully ESPN would partner up with the NHL again.

dgotwals1
01-02-07, 10:11 AM
Dump Versus, already. ESPN was so much better. They offer more widespread distribution of games making them available to more people and much more HD coverage. OLN and Versus is a complete failure to the NHL in my mind.



The NHL can't dump Versus, because they are the only ones that will show the games. ESPN declined to renew the contract 2 years ago, and OLN was the only network to agree.

hunter65
01-02-07, 01:06 PM
The NHL can't dump Versus, because they are the only ones that will show the games. ESPN declined to renew the contract 2 years ago, and OLN was the only network to agree.

They can't dump them because they have a contract with the NHL. When the contract ends, who knows? ESPN may want to get on board again. We can only hope.

jefbal99
01-02-07, 01:33 PM
When does the Versus/NHL agreement end? Hopefully ESPN would partner up with the NHL again.

The NHL's television deal with Versus was made at the conclusion of player lockout that wiped-out the entire 2004-05 season. At the time, Versus offered a two year, $130 million contract (with a network option for a third year)

After this season, the network has an option for a 3rd year, then it is back up fro grabs. I think it ultimately hinges on whether Comcast can build an "NHL Network" tv channel here in the states. Canada already has one.

Edit in: Note from the Wiki article on the NHL Network: "If Comcast does not launch the NHL Network by summer 2007, they have to pay a $15 million penalty to the NHL. However, both Comcast and the NHL have an option to end their contract after the 2006-07 season, which would void Comcast's obligation to launch a U.S. version of NHL Network."

Wouldn't surprise me to see it back up for grabs after this season some Comcast isn't out $15 mil

SirJW
01-15-07, 06:13 PM
INHD doesn't have the Versus games today and NHL.com has both in HD. Oh well, thanks for the great TV contact Gary.

Baldmaga
01-15-07, 09:18 PM
I thought the NHL had the option for the third season.

Aro
01-15-07, 10:06 PM
INHD doesn't have the Versus games today and NHL.com has both in HD. Oh well, thanks for the great TV contact Gary.

That's because Versus is transitioning their HD content to the new Versus/Golf HD channel. I'm watching both games tonight in HD, but that's mainly because I have Comcast. I'd imagine that non-Comcast cable providers don't have this channel yet.

bwaldron
01-15-07, 11:31 PM
That's because Versus is transitioning their HD content to the new Versus/Golf HD channel. I'm watching both games tonight in HD, but that's mainly because I have Comcast. I'd imagine that non-Comcast cable providers don't have this channel yet.

I'm watching both in HD on DirecTV.

Bizz06
01-16-07, 02:26 AM
I honestly wouldnt care if ESPN got the NHL back. I'd rather have it on Vs. than on a network that cuts off NHL Playoff games for regular season Baseball games.

By the way, the Versus schedule didnt have the SHarks game tonight listed as HD, but it was in HD, have they added more HD broadcasts to their lineup?

RemyM
01-16-07, 09:34 AM
By the way, the Versus schedule didnt have the SHarks game tonight listed as HD, but it was in HD, have they added more HD broadcasts to their lineup?

Versus will be doing the rest of their regular season games in HD. Of course you need to have the Versus HD channel to be assured of seeing them all.

SirJW
01-16-07, 01:31 PM
I know this is a lifetime away but does anyone know if INHD will have all of the Versus Playoff games or only a select few?

Ryan21
01-20-07, 05:31 PM
I have comcast and I still don't have the channel :mad:

chitchatjf
01-20-07, 11:26 PM
That's because Versus is transitioning their HD content to the new Versus/Golf HD channel. I'm watching both games tonight in HD, but that's mainly because I have Comcast. I'd imagine that non-Comcast cable providers don't have this channel yet.

I like the rule that systems that have BOTH Verses and Golf channel can have Verses/Golf HD for FREE!

enroberts
01-21-07, 04:55 PM
I've got FiosTV in southeast PA. Anyone know if verizon plans on adding versus HD in the near future? i have versus SD and comcast sportsnet HD now but no versus HD. there might be a snag because comcast owns versus. any input?

FAZ8218
01-21-07, 11:19 PM
I've got FiosTV in southeast PA. Anyone know if verizon plans on adding versus HD in the near future? i have versus SD and comcast sportsnet HD now but no versus HD. there might be a snag because comcast owns versus. any input?
I've been writing to fios for two weeks now asking about this, and NHL Center Ice. Still no response. I send the email once a day, so hopefully they'll get back to me soon. My only complaints about FIOS are that they don't carry INHD, Center Ice, the new Versus HD, nor MSG HD up here in the NY area yet (I'm a Rangers fan). The service is great except that I'm a huge hockey fan, so its frustrating on that end. They only plus is that we have HDNet and catch their games (although I'm not too thrilled with their commentators).

Personally, I think Versus has done a fantastic job with hockey paying close attention to the NHL and its fans. Last year's playoff coverage was fantastic and the CBC simulcasts were awesome. I could use a few more games a week but it's better than nothing. ESPN's coverage wasn't really much better (except for Gary Thorne's commentary maybe). Rumors have it that ESPN may throw themselves back in the game again next season and split the rights with Versus. HDNet will continue to carry a few games. And they're talkng about launching the NHL Network down here (it already exists for our neighbors to the north).

enroberts
01-22-07, 12:07 PM
i agree that the service is great and i too am frustrated by certain lackings in he nhl department. i guess thats what we get for being fans of the 8th most popular sport in the country. i would also love to see fios start upping their on demand content as well. maybe some major network replays and HD on demand? that is another area they lack greatly!

jmj713
01-23-07, 10:39 AM
The Skills Competition is not in HD tonight? DirecTV ch. 95 is having basketball :(

MrSmartyAss
01-23-07, 11:24 AM
Huh, NHL All-star game around the corner? I didn't even noticed it.

BTW: I am a casual hockey fan and haven't watched a single game on VS, because I keep forgetting that they even exist / their channel number on DirecTV.

I think the NHL screwed up royally by selecting OLN at that time. As bad as the ratings were on ESPN, I knew were to find it.

Marcus Carr
01-23-07, 12:12 PM
The Skills Competition is not in HD tonight? DirecTV ch. 95 is having basketball :(

On Comcast it's on Golf/Versus HD (live) and INHD (delayed for basketball).

RemyM
01-23-07, 12:13 PM
The Skills Competition is not in HD tonight? DirecTV ch. 95 is having basketball :(

Yes it's in HD, but apparently the only people that get to see it live in HD are Comcast subs who have the new Versus/Golf HD channel. INHD will be showing it tape delayed at 11:00 PM EST.

jmj713
01-23-07, 01:44 PM
So only SD for DirecTV people?

Pelican123
01-23-07, 02:40 PM
Yes it's in HD, but apparently the only people that get to see it live in HD are Comcast subs who have the new Versus/Golf HD channel. INHD will be showing it tape delayed at 11:00 PM EST.
Why couldn't D* just put it on another channel like 98?
WOuld have been nice to see the skills in HD :(

nhlfan79
01-23-07, 03:45 PM
Y'all need to chill. Tonight's events aren't even available in HD, or so says Versus' own website.

http://www.versus.com/nw/article/view/1367/?tf=NHLArticleWrapper.tpl

RemyM
01-23-07, 04:16 PM
Y'all need to chill. Tonight's events aren't even available in HD, or so says Versus' own website.

http://www.versus.com/nw/article/view/1367/?tf=NHLArticleWrapper.tpl


Yes they are, that's an old non updated list.
http://www.versus.com/nw/article/view/27854/?tf=nwArticle.tpl
http://www.inhd.com/product.jsp?prodId=58349&mp=cb2

tipton
01-23-07, 04:55 PM
its in HD on CBC in canada...YAY.

Ken H
01-23-07, 05:30 PM
Y'all need to chill. Tonight's events aren't even available in HD, or so says Versus' own website.

http://www.versus.com/nw/article/view/1367/?tf=NHLArticleWrapper.tpl
Y'all need to get out more.

Marcus Carr
01-23-07, 08:07 PM
Now live and in HD on Versus/Golf.

Ken H
01-23-07, 08:33 PM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=793359

Ken H
01-26-07, 05:32 PM
Reopened, thanks to RemyM for the note.

RemyM
01-26-07, 09:18 PM
Thanks Ken,

As a Rangers fan I'm sure glad INHD is simulcasting Mondays Rangers vs Bruins Versus HD coverage since Cablevision doesn't have Versus/Golf HD yet.

Marcus Carr
01-29-07, 02:39 AM
Versus Nets NHL Rights Extension

By R. Thomas Umstead 1/29/2007 12:02:00 AM

Amid flat national ratings and sliding regional numbers, Comcast will remain in the rink with the National Hockey League into the next decade.

Comcast’s Versus network will televise national NHL games through 2011 after exercising an option to air the 2007-08 season and picking up the rights to three additional campaigns.

“We’ll definitely have the third season, and we’ll have [the NHL] for six years,” said Versus president Gavin Harvey, who declined to discuss deal terms. “We’re looking forward to season three on Versus.”

Sources close to Versus said the 71 million-subscriber network exercised a $72.5 million option for the 2007-08 campaign and then extended its pact for three more seasons at an undisclosed price.

"We're pleased to be partnered with Versus next season,” NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said in a prepared statement. “We look forward to working together on the promotion of our game, players and the telecasts as we focus on growing U.S. viewership.”


The league would not comment about the three additional seasons.

Some in the TV-sports community thought Comcast might ice a third NHL season after failing to see a significant uptick in ratings since 2005, when it began offeringregular-season games on Monday and Tuesday nights, as well as a number of playoff contests, highlighted by the first two games of the Stanley Cup Finals.

Through 32 games this season, Versus averaged a 0.2 Nielsen Media Research household rating, level with last year’s regular-season NHL numbers and its 2006 primetime average.

In addition, the NHL is having trouble scoring locally. According to Nielsen, regional sports networks owned by FSN, Comcast and Rainbow Media suffered an average 18% drop in ratings in their respective markets -- to a 0.78 from a 0.95 in 2005-06 -- through Jan. 21.

Nationally, Garvey said, Versus is “thrilled” with the NHL’s performance and expects growth as viewers become more familiar with watching hockey on the network.

“We feel like we have a great partnership with a major sport and the viewers have responded,” he said. “Hockey fans are really passionate, and we’re really happy with it.”

The network received a ratings bump with its Jan. 24 All-Star Game telecast, which garnered a 0.7 household rating, a 250% increase over Versus’ regular-season ratings. The All-Star Game was the league’s first in three years.

Comcast had hoped that the NHL rights would make Versus a contender for other high-profile professional-league sports packages from the National Football League and Major League Baseball. But the NFL elected to award an eight-game primetime package to its NFL Network and Turner Broadcasting System connected with a cable package of regular-season and postseason baseball contests.

http://multichannel.com/article/CA6410619.html?display=Breaking+News

RoyGBiv
01-29-07, 09:26 AM
Forget extending the contract, is tonight's hockey game not in HD on D*? The schedule lists some SD NFL stuff that's being shown already on NFL network. Does anyone know????


SMK

RemyM
01-29-07, 10:50 AM
For us cable subscribers who do not have Versus/Golf HD, tonight looks to be the last game on INHD. I was checking the schedule on INHD's web site and there are no NHL games listed for next week and beyond. So unless something changes it looks like after tonight we will not get any more HD Versus NHL games until our cable companies add the Versus/Golf HD channel.

NorthJersey
01-29-07, 10:54 AM
Did the NHL really not learn from back in the day when the US contract was with Sportschannel America ? I gave the NHL a pass for being on Versus right after the lockout, figuring it was out of desperation for a US contract. But not only did Comcast pick up their option for next season, but the NHL actually negotiated 3 more years ? You have got to be kidding me, the clowns who run this league right now are a joke. I don't care if the NHL would have been relegated to ESPN2 for all the games, all least we would have seen games more than one night a week, plus a recap show nightly (John Buccigross). Instead we get one Vs game a week for the next 4 years and no other show on that network that even recaps games. So pitiful and disgusting

RemyM
01-29-07, 11:19 AM
I don't care if the NHL would have been relegated to ESPN2 for all the games, all least we would have seen games more than one night a week, plus a recap show nightly (John Buccigross). Instead we get one Vs game a week for the next 4 years and no other show on that network that even recaps games. So pitiful and disgusting

Versus shows more then one game per week. Plus by picking up the option they have to create the NHL Network here in the US.

homcom
01-29-07, 11:30 AM
Versus shows more then one game per week. Plus by picking up the option they have to create the NHL Network here in the US.
The NHL Network and Versus combined, still don't have the marketing power that ESPN could bring to the NHL.

slapshot
01-29-07, 11:45 AM
The NHL Network and Versus combined, still don't have the marketing power that ESPN could bring to the NHL.


A lot of good it did when they were on ESPN!

homcom
01-29-07, 11:49 AM
A lot of good it did when they were on ESPN!
They had better ratings back then.

Lodef
01-29-07, 12:00 PM
I don't understand why all Comcast systems don't have a dedicated VS/Golf HD channel. They own it and with IND2 disappearing, it could have easily taken it's place in many areas. If the NHL wants to market it's game, having 1 or 2 in HD a week would certainly help it's cause but not putting it on a dedication channel really hurts any progress they have made. I miss games on VS because when the Celts have a home game, that is shown on INHD instead. To me this is terrible marketing by all those involved and they should maybe hire someone from the NFL to show them the way.

PS: attendance is down big at Bruins games this year and this was once a diehard Hockey town, so they better start doing something fast.

lokar
01-29-07, 12:14 PM
They had better ratings back then.

Not to mention visibility. Versus is still not in many homes, here in the Idaho hinterland, no cable company in the entire state carries it. For fun I will start a list of Versus problems and pluses, others please add if I leave anything out:

Minuses:
1. ESPN/2 is always on basic tier, Versus doesn't seem to be on the basic tier of any system I know of (although I have never had Comcast and don't know about them).
2. Versus has poorer overall visibility, ESPN/2 are a marketing behemoth with a TV/radio/web presence Versus can't even remotely match. ESPN/2 are available everywhere, as I previously said Versus is not. As other posters have said, it's Sportschannel America all over again (but at least now I have a satellite dish unlike then :D )
3. (Finally getting back to an appropriate thread topic) - Versus has much less HD than ESPN/2 could offer. From what I have heard, E* doesn't show Versus HD games and D*'s record has been pretty good this year but looks to take a nosedive in January just like last year. For a league that says HD is the key to increasing future viewing, to put yourself on a far lower HD platform is just plain stupid.

Pluses:
1. More coverage - Versus showed about every playoff game they possibly could last year including CBC feeds, far more than what ESPN/2 would have shown, plus with ESPN/2's ego they would rather not show a game at all than air a CBC feed.
2. Hmm can't think of any, I guess for the typically short-sighted NHL it would be money. I guess a few teams will have to go bankrupt from declining NHL interest before Bettman admits there's a problem, and he probably won't even then.

TravelFan1
01-29-07, 01:04 PM
I've googled for the info, but I could not find the complete details.

I was listening to the Mike & Mike show this morning on ESPN radio and here are some TV programs that beat NHL all-star game:

Something that was on HGTV
Mythbusters
TV land, with Andy Griffin show

And I am only talking about cable shows!

4DHD
01-29-07, 01:37 PM
1. ESPN/2 is always on basic tier, Versus doesn't seem to be on the basic tier of any system I know of (although I have never had Comcast and don't know about them).
On Charter cable, at least where I live, Versus is on the Digital tier. FSBA is on Basic Extended. So that means I have to buy 3 tiers to get 2 channels.
And I'm waiting to get my cable HD receiver, they're on back order from Motorola.

SirJW
01-29-07, 01:57 PM
NHL network owned by Comcast. Good luck finding systems to carry it - See NFL network vs TWC and a few other systems.

RemyM
01-29-07, 02:00 PM
Versus has much less HD than ESPN/2 could offer.

Every NHL game on Versus is now in HD, and that's all that's important for this thread.

jmj713
01-29-07, 02:12 PM
Forget extending the contract, is tonight's hockey game not in HD on D*? The schedule lists some SD NFL stuff that's being shown already on NFL network. Does anyone know????


Yeah, looks like we're SOL. DirecTV screws hockey fans again.

themayor
01-29-07, 02:20 PM
Every NHL game on Versus is now in HD, and that's all that's important for this thread.

Except that for an overwhelming majority of us that don't receive the Versus/Golf HD channel it's a moot point.

SirJW
01-29-07, 02:21 PM
Yea but if only Comcast airs the games in HD does anyone hear the tree fall if no one is there?

RemyM
01-29-07, 02:24 PM
Except that for an overwhelming majority of us that don't receive the Versus/Golf HD channel it's moot point.

True, but many of us also don't get ESPN2HD, which the OP who I replied to was wishing the NHL was on. At least with Versus some of the HD games have been shown on INHD, which wouldn't have been the case had ESPN2 had the contract.

jake14mw
01-29-07, 05:15 PM
Wow, how sad, hockey is really in danger of becoming a fringe sport. I used to be an NHL fan when the Whalers were in Hartford. With them leaving, and me getting older and having a family, time and interest for the NHL is gone. I didn't even know that the all star game had happened until I started hearing stories about the ratings. I'm still a fairly big sports fan and didn't even know it was on.

Marcus Carr
01-29-07, 07:10 PM
1. ESPN/2 is always on basic tier, Versus doesn't seem to be on the basic tier of any system I know of (although I have never had Comcast and don't know about them).

On Comcast in Baltimore, Versus is on channel 2. (And we have Versus/Golf HD.)

alexandriahokie
01-29-07, 07:20 PM
On Comcast in Baltimore, Versus is on channel 2. (And we have Versus/Golf HD.)

Not only do we not have Versus/Golf HD here in Alexandria, but the INHD feed tonight is just a black screen, so no HD hockey at all this week.

And I tried writing Comcast and asking about when we might get Versus/Golf HD and I just received their standard reply.

Marcus Carr
01-29-07, 08:02 PM
Not only do we not have Versus/Golf HD here in Alexandria, but the INHD feed tonight is just a black screen, so no HD hockey at all this week.

That's odd. I'm getting tonight's game on both channels.

Gary*w*
01-29-07, 08:13 PM
Nashville TN. is getting the game in HD on both INHD & Vs./Golf as well

JoeInNVa
01-30-07, 07:35 AM
Not only do we not have Versus/Golf HD here in Alexandria, but the INHD feed tonight is just a black screen, so no HD hockey at all this week.

And I tried writing Comcast and asking about when we might get Versus/Golf HD and I just received their standard reply.

Yeah, I was annoyed at that. It seems they turned off INHD but forget to feed the Game for some reason...

Thankfully Boston got crushed so I didn't have to watch it...

Berk32
01-30-07, 11:06 AM
Yeah, I was annoyed at that. It seems they turned off INHD but forget to feed the Game for some reason...


The game was part of the regular INHD programming. Cable companies do not replace "normal" INHD programming with this game because it was the scheduled program for everyone.

SirJW
01-30-07, 02:05 PM
No HD on INHD for the Preds / Avs game 2nite on VS, thanks for the great television contract Mr B.

RemyM
01-30-07, 02:36 PM
No HD on INHD for the Preds / Avs game 2nite on VS, thanks for the great television contract Mr B.

As I stated in post #155 INHD does not have any NHL on Versus games listed on their schedule for the next two weeks. Last night's game might have been the last one. I have e-mailed INHD to try to confirm this. Time to start pushing our cable cos to add Versus/Golf HD.

alexandriahokie
01-30-07, 02:49 PM
As I stated in post #155 INHD does not have any NHL on Versus games listed on their schedule for the next two weeks. Last night's game might have been the last one. I have e-mailed INHD to try to confirm this. Time to start pushing our cable cos to add Versus/Golf HD.

Definitely!! I emailed Comcast about this and got one of their standard "we evaluate channels blah blah blah" responses. I responded and said thanks for that great non-information and wonderful customer service.

And calling is even worse. Just slightly frustrating.

SirJW
01-30-07, 03:58 PM
As I stated in post #155 INHD does not have any NHL on Versus games listed on their schedule for the next two weeks. Last night's game might have been the last one. I have e-mailed INHD to try to confirm this. Time to start pushing our cable cos to add Versus/Golf HD.


I know, I was just confirming that nothing had changed last minute.

I doubt that TWC will do anything that helps the competition by adding a rival’s channel (Comcast). No Center Ice HD and no VS HD for playoffs means I might have to jump to E* or D* (hopefully the 150 hi-res channels rumors are true).

IMO this VS deal w/ the NHL is getting worse and worse for the customer. I am very upset w/ the idea of no HD Playoff and Stanley Cup games until the final three or four games.

Any future success of the NHL depends on HD and it’s not looking good.

For now I’ll just have to enjoy HDNet.

Ryan21
01-30-07, 07:17 PM
I know, I was just confirming that nothing had changed last minute.

I doubt that TWC will do anything that helps the competition by adding a rival’s channel (Comcast). No Center Ice HD and no VS HD for playoffs means I might have to jump to E* or D* (hopefully the 150 hi-res channels rumors are true).

IMO this VS deal w/ the NHL is getting worse and worse for the customer. I am very upset w/ the idea of no HD Playoff and Stanley Cup games until the final three or four games.

Any future success of the NHL depends on HD and it’s not looking good.

For now I’ll just have to enjoy HDNet.
This is so redicoulas I have Comcast in Reading, PA and if does not carry VS/TGC HD channel I am going to be extemely pissed off :mad:

slapshot
01-30-07, 07:51 PM
They had better ratings back then.

True,but what I'm saying is hockey was no better off then (popularitywise) than they are now. They are still struggling to attract viewers,buried on a channel that is not available everywhere,trying to be taken seriously here in the states as the 4th major sport. I hate to say it but as much as I love the sport,it will always be an acquired taste. It's not something that instantly draws you to it by watching it on tv. Heck,even people I know that love it don't watch much of it on tv. Of course in this city we don't have a legitimate team :o ,so there is really not much to watch.

Possibly things might get a bit better if and when more games are broadcast in HD. Hockey has the most to gain from HD of any sport,and I think it will help a little. It won't ever reach the level of the NFL,MLB or NBA,or even Nascar :confused: .

Versus does a decent job on the games they do, but they are not easy to find, there aren't enough games broadcast, and there aren't enough games in HD.
Of course Directv doesn't help with their scarcity of bandwith available for the HD games that are available.
Hopefully,that will change,but I'm not holding my breath.

owine
01-30-07, 07:59 PM
This new Versus renewal is a shot in the foot for the NHL. First off, hockey already doesn't get great ratings in the states so they should try to get as much exposure and publicity as they can for broadcasts. Second, most Americans do not even know the Versus channel exists, let alone where to find it on their cable systems.

For example, I asked my friend the other night if he was going to watch the All-Star Game. He, for one, didn't even know it was going to be on. His next question was, "What channel is it on? I know ESPN had the NHL like 5 years ago but I have no idea now." This person is an avid sports fan. He is a casual follower of hockey and even he does not know where to find the games. I know NBC has some games, but it is only something like 2-3 games per week and a person can only watch one of those games depending on which game their NBC affiliate is showing.

The people that know to find the NHL on Versus already watch on Versus. If the NHL wants ratings to go up, they should move to a better publicized and known network or do a hell of a lot of PR work to bump them up.

Trizent
01-30-07, 08:06 PM
Not even games in HD on Versus? Every game from Jan 1 to end of year is in HD on VS.

jmj713
01-31-07, 01:04 PM
Who cares about VS. or ESPN or whatever. People will watch their favorite teams on their local sports networks, or go to the games. The arenas are full most of the time, so I don't see a problem. The best team in the NHL right now is from the so-called "non-hockey" area (Nashville).

NorthJersey
01-31-07, 02:26 PM
funny you mention attendance. Check out the recent edition of the Hockey News ? The article "The best team that nobody watches" can probably sum up the majority of NHL US teams, but the article is about the Predators. They have the best record in the NHL but are drawing nobody. Attendance is now, even in some Canadien cities. But the Predators owner is attempting to sell 40% of his interest in the team just to save the franchise.

Nobody fails to mention the fact that the NHL has one of, if not the, highest average ticket price of all the "major" sports. So much for being fan friendly after the lockout. The salary cap and revenue sharing is putting tons of $$$ in the owners pockets (see record $2.2B is NHL revenues last season) yet the owners still raised prices. I used to go to more than 20 Devils games a year, but with the ridiculous prices, I can't bring my family (wife and 3 kids) to more than one or two a year. Sorry, I'm not going to drag everyone up to the nose bleed seats.

Gary*w*
01-31-07, 04:30 PM
The main problem, beside not being a "traditional" hockey market, that the Preds face is that the Gaylord Entertainment Center or GEC is a royal pain in the arse to get in and out of on a game night.

There's bus service for those in Davidson County but those of us in the surrounding counties there's no mass transit, save for a single light rail line going from downtown to Lebanon TN. to the east.

From the north, west or south of town you have to drive in fighting traffic and are forced to pay upwards of $20 to park your car. The joe 6 pack fan just can't manage that on top of the price of a couple decent tickets more than a couple games a year.

The weekend/holliday games draw pretty well, but the weeknight games are dismal unless it's the Red Wings in town. That's because no-body likes to go downtown. The new schedual with the Crosby's and Ovechkin's only comming thru town once every couple years ain't helpin' matters either. They could put a few butts in seats i would think.

There is a buzz around town about the team and it's success though. I had my first grocery store checkout line hockey debate with a young kid and his dad last week ( I was wearing a Preds sweatshirt that caused the kid to strike up the conversation) even the girl at the register chimed in. So people are following the team that weren't a year ago.

This is an event driven kinda town though. Wait and see what the Playoff attendance looks like (yes, i'm making the homer like assumption they will make the playoffs) Last year's playoff games were sell outs it was the Red Wings though. The Wings have a decent following down here, they and the Blues are also our big rivalry games.

In the last few weeks FSN south has started airing HD Preds games by interrupting InHD programming (The Red Wings- Preds game right before the All- Star break was the first) so maybe that will stir up yet more interrest.

Leopold (The Owner) has been putting pressure on the corporate community to buy more seats. They lost a lot of buisness' as ticket holders durring the lockout. He's hoping that selling a minority interest in the team to a local owner would spur the local buisness' to support the team better (or at least thats what he's telling us fans) . Raising the season ticket base to a more manageable level.

There is some reason to worry but any sort of move would be a couple years off. There is a major renovation of downtown going on (The construction doesn't help attendance either). There's new condo's and a minor league baseball stadium going in as well as a new Symphony Hall just completed and new office buildings and hotels. If the attendance doesn't show signs of improvement by the end of the season after next, Kansas City might just get a new team.

Aro
01-31-07, 04:41 PM
TLast year's playoff games were sell outs it was the Red Wings though.

Actually, last year was San Jose ;) Year before that was Detroit.

That's a good point, though. Red Wings fans are the Yankees fans of hockey. They show up in force everywhere.

alexandriahokie
01-31-07, 04:59 PM
I wrote Comcast again on Tuesday telling them that I didn't want their typical non-response answer to adding Versus HD -- it was a yes/no question. They guy responded saying they were having issues and the channel had been delayed.

So I come home today after seeing several people post that they received the channel overnight, and we now have it in Alexandria/Arlington on 254, but it's called "CCHD" in the program guide for whatever that means.

Why couldn't they have just said they were trying to add it by 1/31? I would have been much happier and less stressed.

But at least we have hockey in glorious HD for the rest of this season now. Phew.

RemyM
01-31-07, 05:11 PM
CCHD=Comcast Channel HD?

Now it's time for Comcast to get off their butts and start working to get Versus/Golf HD up on other MSO's.

Ryan21
01-31-07, 07:20 PM
I wrote Comcast again on Tuesday telling them that I didn't want their typical non-response answer to adding Versus HD -- it was a yes/no question. They guy responded saying they were having issues and the channel had been delayed.

So I come home today after seeing several people post that they received the channel overnight, and we now have it in Alexandria/Arlington on 254, but it's called "CCHD" in the program guide for whatever that means.

Why couldn't they have just said they were trying to add it by 1/31? I would have been much happier and less stressed.

But at least we have hockey in glorious HD for the rest of this season now. Phew.
yep I just got it today as well :)

colossus
01-31-07, 09:08 PM
Nobody fails to mention the fact that the NHL has one of, if not the, highest average ticket price of all the "major" sports. So much for being fan friendly after the lockout. The salary cap and revenue sharing is putting tons of $$$ in the owners pockets (see record $2.2B is NHL revenues last season) yet the owners still raised prices. I used to go to more than 20 Devils games a year, but with the ridiculous prices, I can't bring my family (wife and 3 kids) to more than one or two a year. Sorry, I'm not going to drag everyone up to the nose bleed seats.

Spot-on.

The fans aren't getting subsidized via a fat TV contract.

Then again, consider the retarded concept of TV coverage in the NHL these days.

Tomorrow night, the Sabres and Bruins will be on HDNet. Can I see my local team live in HD? Short answer? I don't know. And I won't until the damn game starts.

Outside of a couple games on OLN last year, in the four-odd years I've had HD in my house, I have NEVER- NEVER- been able to watch my local time live in HD. Away or not, it doesn't matter.

Why on Earth does Bettman think people will watch non-local teams? Last year, thet schedule was fat with weak teams...this year, it's even worse.

It'll be a loooooooooooooong time before TV contracts start subsidizing some of the ticket prices.

Berk32
01-31-07, 09:28 PM
Spot-on.

The fans aren't getting subsidized via a fat TV contract.

Then again, consider the retarded concept of TV coverage in the NHL these days.

Tomorrow night, the Sabres and Bruins will be on HDNet. Can I see my local team live in HD? Short answer? I don't know. And I won't until the damn game starts.

Outside of a couple games on OLN last year, in the four-odd years I've had HD in my house, I have NEVER- NEVER- been able to watch my local time live in HD. Away or not, it doesn't matter.

Why on Earth does Bettman think people will watch non-local teams? Last year, thet schedule was fat with weak teams...this year, it's even worse.

It'll be a loooooooooooooong time before TV contracts start subsidizing some of the ticket prices.

HDNet will be blacked out in the Buffalo market for the Sabers game... as usual... (unless they decided not to have an MSG production that night....)

Sabers are screwed because they don't really have their own network... thanks to the Adelphia mess...

The team controls the entire production, so they would probably have to be the ones to foot the bill to go HD... I'd expect them to be among the last teams to get local HD coverage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSG_Network#Buffalo_Sabres_coverage

Ken H
01-31-07, 09:36 PM
Why couldn't they have just said they were trying to add it by 1/31? I would have been much happier and less stressed.
Because it doesn't work that way. Few of the large media companies telegraph their intentions, except in rare cases.

FAZ8218
02-01-07, 01:39 AM
I wrote Comcast again on Tuesday telling them that I didn't want their typical non-response answer to adding Versus HD -- it was a yes/no question. They guy responded saying they were having issues and the channel had been delayed.

So I come home today after seeing several people post that they received the channel overnight, and we now have it in Alexandria/Arlington on 254, but it's called "CCHD" in the program guide for whatever that means.

Why couldn't they have just said they were trying to add it by 1/31? I would have been much happier and less stressed.

But at least we have hockey in glorious HD for the rest of this season now. Phew.
At least you get an answer... I'm going on 3 weeks now of writing to Verizon FiOS... still no answer.

Gary*w*
02-01-07, 10:04 AM
Actually, last year was San Jose ;) Year before that was Detroit.

That's a good point, though. Red Wings fans are the Yankees fans of hockey. They show up in force everywhere.

Yeah San Jose last season, the home games were sellouts though. Also because of the Nissan and Saturn auto plants that are here, we have a lot of Detroit transplants that came down with the auto industry.

Lodef
02-01-07, 10:17 AM
Well, looks like Comcast has been reading these threads, they just added the dedicated VS/Golf HD Channel ( 848) in the Boston area. Now I don't have to miss anymore Hockey Games. Thank You!

jefbal99
02-01-07, 10:31 AM
Well, looks like Comcast has been reading these threads, they just added the dedicated VS/Golf HD Channel ( 848) in the Boston area. Now I don't have to miss anymore Hockey Games. Thank You!

I just have to wait until next Wednesday and I get that and Fox Sports Detroit HD. Finally, almost all my hockey (minus NHL CI) in HD

NorthJersey
02-01-07, 11:43 AM
HDNet will be blacked out in the Buffalo market for the Sabers game... as usual... (unless they decided not to have an MSG production that night....)

Sabers are screwed because they don't really have their own network... thanks to the Adelphia mess...

The team controls the entire production, so they would probably have to be the ones to foot the bill to go HD... I'd expect them to be among the last teams to get local HD coverage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSG_Network#Buffalo_Sabres_coverage

I thought MSG carries Sabres games in upstate NY. It's on the MSG networks page. Does the network not carry the games in HD like it does in NYC for the Rangers, Knicks, Devils and Islanders?

5w30
02-02-07, 10:16 PM
MSG-Buffalo is SD. They -do- have their own network in MSG-Buffalo, with all its advantages; and the production quality of the games has improved considerably since the loss of those Adelphia crooks. Some HD games are rumored for later in the season.
The Sabres have been working their way back to profitability and respect since their current owner took over. There's great product on the ice; the arena's packed; and even though Buffalo is a classic small market the budget for HD will come sooner rather than later.

Berk32
02-02-07, 10:52 PM
I thought MSG carries Sabres games in upstate NY. It's on the MSG networks page. Does the network not carry the games in HD like it does in NYC for the Rangers, Knicks, Devils and Islanders?

sorry... "buffalo market" = wherever they get sabers games and not rangers/devils/islanders etc.... i didn't mean "Buffalo" as the city.

And since Cablevision/MSG does not actually produce the games, there is no HD for the Sabers (yet)

RemyM
02-05-07, 01:49 PM
So does anyone out there have the Versus/Golf HD channel that is not on a Comcast system?

gdodd12
02-12-07, 11:49 AM
Are Versus and VersusHD two seperate channesl? Or do they just show some HD content on Versus, and its just the one channel?

homcom
02-12-07, 12:03 PM
Are Versus and VersusHD two seperate channesl? Or do they just show some HD content on Versus, and its just the one channel?
HD content from Versus is shown on the Versus / Golf Channel HD channel. Currently this is mostly, if not only, on Comcast. Some HD content from Versus has shown up on the Directv HD special events channel.

jefbal99
02-12-07, 12:40 PM
So does anyone out there have the Versus/Golf HD channel that is not on a Comcast system?

Negative, there have only been reports of it on Comcast systems.

SirJW
02-12-07, 02:26 PM
So what are the chances that TWC will get a VS-HD game again this season? What about E* or D*?

jefbal99
02-12-07, 02:37 PM
So what are the chances that TWC will get a VS-HD game again this season? What about E* or D*?

D* puts them on 95 occasionally

chitchatjf
02-12-07, 04:48 PM
Negative, there have only been reports of it on Comcast systems.

The general rule is an ysystem that carries both Golf and Verses can carry the golf/Verses HD channel AT NO CHARGE .

DRAMROCK
02-12-07, 09:38 PM
Does anybody know when VERSUS HD will be on Verizon FIOS ?

I get Versus on a basic premium package with Verizon.

I miss all of the Versus HD games.

DR

jefbal99
02-13-07, 08:47 AM
The general rule is an ysystem that carries both Golf and Verses can carry the golf/Verses HD channel AT NO CHARGE .

I agree 100%, however, there have been no reports of this channel on a system outside of a Comcast network.

Berk32
02-13-07, 10:02 AM
D* puts them on 95 occasionally

Has D* put a VS-HD game on in the last 2 weeks? (since the last time InHD showed a VS game?)

RoyGBiv
02-13-07, 11:14 AM
Has D* put a VS-HD game on in the last 2 weeks? (since the last time InHD showed a VS game?)

Rangers-Red Wings was on in HD on Monday, 2/5. Last night's game was not. SMK

AvocadoMan
02-15-07, 09:29 PM
Help!!! My boss keep asking me to find out if he can get all these hockey games in HD on his DirectTV. I don't have cable or satelite and don't watch sports that much. So, I don't even know where to start. I've spent hours and hours looking for answers. I contacted DirectTV and all these stations (Versus, FSN, etc.) that my boss is interested. They're all not very helpful. My question is this: how can my boss get the most hockey games in HD on his DirectTV. He lives in Southern California and he has all the sports and HD package that DirectTV offers. Thanks for any help you can give me.

SirJW
02-15-07, 11:25 PM
There really isn’t enough Hockey in HD.

It’s a bit complicated and I’ll start off by saying I have Time Warner Cable (TWC) so I may be a bit wrong about Direct TV (D*). (BTW DISH is E* short for Echostar).

First of all HDNet airs games in True High Def, framed in 16x9 on Thursday and Saturday Nights. Local games are subject to black out.

In LA FSN-HD (FoxSportsNet West) airs very few games this year but the Houston control center is being updated and hopefully will air many more next season. I’m pretty sure those games are on channel 95.

If you have Center Ice, a few HD games a week are on channel 95, 96 or 97. (BTW- too bad the games are on the same nights as the the VS and HDnet games).

On Sunday’s NBC has a game of the week and if we’re lucky it’s in HD (not always though).

In a nutshell - Comcast owns Versus and they just launched VS-HD, available to all carriers except no other has picked it up. So right now unless you get Comcast Cable you can’t get VS in HD. All I know is that they better figure something out for non Comcast Subscribers before the playoffs start or I’m gonna be one unhappy camper. You can thank Gary Bettman for the crappy TV deal.

Here are a few helpful links:
http://www.hd.net/nhl.html
http://msn.foxsports.com/name/HD#FSWest (Updated monthly).
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=867
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=Schedule&network=NBC&season=20062007
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=TVInfo
http://www.hdsportsguide.com/
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:RjzTZru0tKgJ:www.indemand.com/sports/nhl/schedule/nhlScheduleHD.pdf+center+ice+hd&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a

TVJunkyMonkey
02-17-07, 04:44 PM
I guess the reason for not having Capitals games on VS HD is because Comcast SportsNet does those itself.

FiOS customers will get CSN HD on the 20th so maybe we will get VS HD soon. I had InHD last year with cable and got to watch the playoffs in HD (BRILLIANT!!). Like some people said here, if I don't get my playoff hockey in HD this year, I will be "one unhappy camper". :( and :mad:

colossus
02-19-07, 11:37 AM
Does the network not carry the games in HD like it does in NYC for the Rangers, Knicks, Devils and Islanders?

Nope. And at least w/Dish network, when the Rangers play the Sabres- meaning utterly no conflict of contract- you still can't watch the damn HD game in Buffalo.

10 year extension w/MSG? Good lord, we're screwed.

nhlfan79
02-26-07, 07:18 PM
Is it normal for D* to give a "Program not available in your area" on Channel 95 for a Versus broadcast? I can watch the SD feed of the Thrashers (my hometown team) in Boston, but HD is like it's blacked out. I called D*, and they have no answers. Anyone experience this before?

SirJW
02-26-07, 07:23 PM
Is anyone w/ Satellite or other any Cable Companies besides Comcast getting 2nites game in HD?

JMartinko
02-26-07, 07:37 PM
The game is on in HD here in Colorado on D* channel 95. Normally the versus game is a national game and is not blacked out unless for some reason your local RSN has the telecast rights. If they are also televising it, the game would likely be blacked out on Versus. I was under the impression this is a national telecast with Versus as the only broadcaster, which would mean it likely should NOT be blacked out anywhere. All that being said, unfortunately it is not uncommon for various carriers to get things screwed up, and usually the 'hired help' doesn't know the details on the sports blackouts.

Note: this is about the time (can't say for sure) when the Versus channel becomes part of the new tier of pricing for recent subscribers. I thought it was March, but maybe that is the issue. Check your websites to see if the channel is listed in your subscription, or if you have to add $5 or whatever to get the higher tier including Versus. Just a thought.

JackB
02-26-07, 10:12 PM
I'm being blacked out for the Sharks/Ducks game on Direct TV. This makes no sense since the game is not on either FSN Bay Area or FSN West in SoCal.

Jack

RemyM
02-26-07, 10:14 PM
All Versus games are exclusive and should never be blacked out anywhere.

4DHD
02-26-07, 10:58 PM
The game is on Versus via Charter Cable here in Northern Nevada.
Black out rules TOTALLY suck, just the same.

SirJW
02-27-07, 12:03 AM
The game is on Versus via Charter Cable here in Northern Nevada.
Black out rules TOTALLY suck, just the same.


Charter aired the games in HD?

TVJunkyMonkey
02-27-07, 01:16 AM
The game is on Versus via Charter Cable here in Northern Nevada.
Black out rules TOTALLY suck, just the same.

All Versus games are exclusive and should never be blacked out anywhere.

I hear ya, I hate those blackout rules, let people decide which channel they want to watch. Man, the game with the Mighty Ducks and Sharks was really good, one of the best ones I've seen this year if not THE best. Seriously, it was like a playoff game.

Berk32
02-27-07, 01:34 AM
I hear ya, I hate those blackout rules, let people decide which channel they want to watch. Man, the game with the Mighty Ducks and Sharks was really good, one of the best ones I've seen this year if not THE best. Seriously, it was like a playoff game.

The game was not supposed to be blacked out anywhere.

There were no blackout rules in effect.

Any system that did not provide the game f*cked up. (at least any system that shows VersusHD games normally)

jefbal99
02-27-07, 07:51 AM
Both games looked great on VSGLF, Comcast, Lansing, MI

RemyM
02-27-07, 09:00 AM
If any of the games were blacked out you should contact Versus and let them know. All of their regular season games are exclusive broadcasts and are not supposed to be blacked out in the USA.

VERSUS
Two Stamford Plaza
281 Tresser Boulevard
Stamford, CT 06901
Phone: (203) 406-2500 Fax: (203) 406-2534
Toll-Free 1-877-VERSUS-ON

lokar
02-27-07, 09:48 AM
Fortunately, I got to see both games on channel 95 but was mysteriously blacked out of the channel 95 Saturday broadcast of Avs/Kings, even though I could watch the SD channel of it just fine. Just wondering, has anyone ever in recorded history called D* about a blackout problem where D* was at fault and had the problem fixed right away? I am very happy with the number of NHL games they have been putting on channel 95 recently but they seem completely unwilling/unable to fix a problem like the above.

RemyM
02-27-07, 11:03 AM
Fortunately, I got to see both games on channel 95 but was mysteriously blacked out of the channel 95 Saturday broadcast of Avs/Kings, even though I could watch the SD channel of it just fine.

Versus does not broadcast games on Saturday, just Monday and Tuesday. Saturday would be a local telecast and subject to blackout rules.

RoyGBiv
02-27-07, 11:49 AM
I am in RI in the Bruins' area. The game was not shown on NESN, the Bruins network, and it was shown on SD on Versus. The only thing that was blacked out here was the HD telecast on 95 with a message that "this program is not available in your area." The second game with SJ and ANA was in HD, so clearly D* F***ed up again with thinking the local markets shouldn't get the game.

SMK

herb s.
02-27-07, 12:33 PM
Same message up in NH; I guess it's one of lifes great mysteries on what D*can do to screw up.

giantfan9
02-27-07, 02:06 PM
I talked to D* last night. Here in So Cal the HD version ( Channel 95) of Ducks vs. Sharks was blacked out, although it was on SD on Channel 608.

Their response is that Versus (608) has exclusive rights and thus no blackout. But Versus HD (95) is considered an RSN, since it is not on all the time and thus all RSN's are blacked out to the local teams, but only in HD.

This makes absolutely no sense. I was on with D* (5 different people) for well over 90 minutes and no one has a clue about an exclusive telecast!

joebbaseball
02-27-07, 02:21 PM
I know this has nothing to do with anything technical, but is anyone else in favor of just doing a pass through type of set up of Canadien broadcasts? I was switching back and forth between the Verses game and the nat'l game on TSN and one of the intermissions they did was just great. With all the trade deadline stuff going on it just blew v's out of the water. They must have the rights to do it since they passed through some playoff games last year. Which were ruined by the oln idiots during intermissions.
Joe

chitchatjf
02-27-07, 07:40 PM
I talked to D* last night. Here in So Cal the HD version ( Channel 95) of Ducks vs. Sharks was blacked out, although it was on SD on Channel 608.

Their response is that Versus (608) has exclusive rights and thus no blackout. But Versus HD (95) is considered an RSN, since it is not on all the time and thus all RSN's are blacked out to the local teams, but only in HD.

This makes absolutely no sense. I was on with D* (5 different people) for well over 90 minutes and no one has a clue about an exclusive telecast!

that is because they don't carry Verses/Golf HD yet. You could always ask what channel it is on.