Will my DVDO VP50 do 1080p24 output when the source is SDI or Component from a DVD player? I imagine I could use a firmware update.

You have to set FRC 60->24 and choose 1080p24 as output, at least it works for me. If you get bad deinterlacing in auto try "forced 3:2" pulldown.

You have to set FRC 60->24 and choose 1080p24 as output, at least it works for me. If you get bad deinterlacing in auto try "forced 3:2" pulldown.

Fair enough thanks. This makes it easier to chose a Blu-Ray player. I got the Sony S550 since I have an SDI dvd player for use with the VP50 so my dvd de-interlacing and scaling should be better that way.

Can the 50 be used to set up different aspect ratios on a 2.0 ratio screen.
Example: I want a 1:78 movie to fill the height of the screen(I know it won't fill the width) and I want a 2:35 movie to fill the width if the screen. I'd like to do this without zooming the projector lens.

Scott

Can the 50 be used to set up different aspect ratios on a 2.0 ratio screen.
Example: I want a 1:78 movie to fill the height of the screen(I know it won't fill the width) and I want a 2:35 movie to fill the width if the screen. I'd like to do this without zooming the projector lens.

Scott

Do you have an anamorphic lens to stretch it?

No

Can the 50 be used to set up different aspect ratios on a 2.0 ratio screen.
Example: I want a 1:78 movie to fill the height of the screen(I know it won't fill the width) and I want a 2:35 movie to fill the width if the screen. I'd like to do this without zooming the projector lens.

Scott

I cannot see you being able to do this without zooming. Since you have a 2.0 screen, without a lens, you'd be stretching one way or the other in a non-linear way so the aspect ratio's would not be correct.

Is anyone using the VP50 with a Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1? I have a friend with audio issues with this Blue Ray player and the VP50. I am curious if it is a compatability issue or a bug with the VP50.

Other components seem to work ok (Dish Network and Toshiba HD-XA2).

But the main issue is with the Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1 Blu-ray DVD player. The BDP-HD1 has the latest firmware version 3.85. (he got it updated recently.) And when he connects the HDMI out on the HD1 (with HDMI Audio set to PCM) directly to the HDMI on his 1080p plasma display, audio works fine, but he only gets the surround/background sound when the HDMI out on the HD1 (with HDMI Audio set to PCM) connected to the HDMI port on the VP50.

For now, he has audio going with the digital out on the HD1 (with Dolby Digital and DTS set to PCM on the HD1) connected to Audio 4 input on the VP50 via a coaxial digital cable (with the audio input set to Audio 4 on the VP50).

If anyone has the Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1 working with a VP50, could you please post your audio settings?

In short the chain is: BDP-HD1 to VP50 to Plasma TV (no AVR)

Can the 50 be used to set up different aspect ratios on a 2.0 ratio screen.
Example: I want a 1:78 movie to fill the height of the screen(I know it won't fill the width) and I want a 2:35 movie to fill the width if the screen. I'd like to do this without zooming the projector lens.

Scott

Yes, it is doable, although you'll incur a loss of resolution and possible scaling artifacts with 1.78:1 material. If you set up your projector so that it fills the width of your 2.0:1 screen (and spills over the top and bottom), then you can show 2.35:1 material (or any material with an aspect >2.0:1) untouched with small letterbox bars on the top and bottom.

For any material with an aspect smaller than 2.0:1, you simply need to tell the VP50 that you have a 2.0:1 screen. Go to MENU -> OUTPUT SETUP -> ASPECT RATIO -> SCREEN -> USER and use the up and down arrows to scroll to 2.0:1. This will scale the image so that it fills the height of the screen and remains at the proper AR. You can save this to a User Memory so that you can quickly switch from >2.0:1 to <2.0:1. Keep in mind that you'll lose both vertical and horizontal resolution as compared to the source by doing this, and you may also notice some image softening as compared to the unscaled original. However it's a very quick and convenient way to switch between any AR with only a couple button presses on your VP50 remote.

Can VP50 be configured to fully show 2.35:1 material on a 1.78:1 screen. I know there will be black bars on the top & bottom but I want to make sure that part of the panel is not wasted in black bars without using anamorphic lens or 2.35:1 size screen.

Can VP50 be configured to fully show 2.35:1 material on a 1.78:1 screen. I know there will be black bars on the top & bottom but I want to make sure that part of the panel is not wasted in black bars without using anamorphic lens or 2.35:1 size screen.

I must misunderstand something, but to show 2.35:1 material on a 1.78:1 screen - and accepting the black bars - does not require a VP at all, as there is no need for changing the AR. Again, I must be missing something.
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Is anyone using the VP50 with a Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1? I have a friend with audio issues with this Blue Ray player and the VP50. I am curious if it is a compatability issue or a bug with the VP50.

Other components seem to work ok (Dish Network and Toshiba HD-XA2).

But the main issue is with the Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1 Blu-ray DVD player. The BDP-HD1 has the latest firmware version 3.85. (he got it updated recently.) And when he connects the HDMI out on the HD1 (with HDMI Audio set to PCM) directly to the HDMI on his 1080p plasma display, audio works fine, but he only gets the surround/background sound when the HDMI out on the HD1 (with HDMI Audio set to PCM) connected to the HDMI port on the VP50.

For now, he has audio going with the digital out on the HD1 (with Dolby Digital and DTS set to PCM on the HD1) connected to Audio 4 input on the VP50 via a coaxial digital cable (with the audio input set to Audio 4 on the VP50).

If anyone has the Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1 working with a VP50, could you please post your audio settings?

In short the chain is: BDP-HD1 to VP50 to Plasma TV (no AVR)

Followup: The VP50 is not compatible with HDMI audio from the Pioneer Elite Blue Ray Player BDP-HD1. The digital audio connections will work but audio does not pass through this unit via HDMI. I had a friend who was very gracious in having a VP50 tested with his personal player and their tech support were able to confirm this HDMI incompatability issue for the entire product line.

A firmware release will be required to resolve this issue. Until then, a coax or optical connection is required. Just thought I would let everyone know the answer to my own question for awareness purposes.

Are you saying you are trying to pass multi-channel PCM to a TV?

Are you saying you are trying to pass multi-channel PCM to a TV?

I am glad you asked the question the way you did because it made me look more at the player configurations.

The player is set to DTS downmix to 2 channel after I read the emails more carefully on how it is configured. That just raised a red flag.

On more careful inspection, this unit may only pass through 2-channel DTS signals to a TV and not able to down scale to 2-channel Dolby Digital signals as the manual says, "Dolby Digital -> PCM - Converts Dolby Digital sources to Linear PCM output. Use if your connected equipment doesn’t support Dolby Digital audio." Linear PCM can have 2 to 8 channels but there is no option to downsample to 2-channel audio for Dolby Digital.

That reads to me that this player only passes multichannel Dolby Digital and can pass 2-channel DTS. I suspect a DTS audio encoded Blue Ray Disk will be heard on the TV and a Dolby Digital audio encoded Blue Ray disk will not.

I'll pass on more info after another test. If so, it is the Blue Ray players fault.

Regards,

Chris

Still not sure what you are saying but it is likely the TV will only accept 2 channel PCM.

Still not sure what you are saying but it is likely the TV will only accept 2 channel PCM.

You are correct and we knew the TV would only accept 2 channel PCM. The big surprise at this point is that this particular Blue Ray player only downmixes the DTS codec and not the Dolby Digital codec. It put me through a lot of confusion until I figured it out. In short, a DTS encoded movie passes through the VP50 to the TV just fine. A Dolby Digital encoded movie will only pass as multichannel PCM, thus no audio like the problem I initially reported (which I was thinking was a VP50 pass through problem).

In short, it made my initial request for help OBE (overcome by events).

Did you hit the Audio button on the player to select the 2 channel track?

I was wondering if anyone had any definitive knowledge as to whether firmware 1.09 will be the last? I am still on 1.04 and didn't upgrade to the VP50PRO since it was not worth it to me. If they come out with something better I may bite. BTW, I am using DirecTV, AppleTV, and almost no DVD as input. The output is to a Pioneer 150FD Elite. Does anyone know if there will be a benefit for me to upgrade to 1.09?

Hello everyone,

I just picked up an DVDO iScanVP50 and will be looking to connect it to my Barco 808G projector. In my searches over the internet I found a good deal on timing settings for one of the competative products but failed to locate any timing configurations for the DVDO products. In particular the VP50. I am planning to connect a Sony BDP S550 as we basically use the room for movies.

I have upgraded the firmware form a 1.0 to the latest 1.9 without any problems and have great expectations from the unit.

Is anyone aware of such a link or would be interested in sharing their configurations? Knowing what works and what doesn't saves a great deal of time and experimenting.

Thank you in advance.

Nicholas.

Using the VP50 deinterlacing to remove the scan lines from 1080i seems to do nothing. What is the BEST setting? Film Mode or Auto?

I will get back to you later with my settings. I have the same setup with a Barco 808g

I am also still using a VP50, now with firmware version 1.09.

I would like to use the “Force 2:2” discrete IR command code via Philips Pronto RU960. I have used the DVDO PDF file to identify the command “49” and value “10” for “Force 2:2” and created the IR command via the DVDO Uitlity of Barry Gordon, IR Tool.

I have tried a lot of different ways to create the IR command but it did not work.

All the other commands like “Auto”, “Video”, “Force 3:2”, “2:2 Odd”, “2:2 Even” work perfectly, only the “Force 2:2” command does not have any effect when sent via the Philips Pronto RU960.

Please could anybody help me with this problem.

Here the IR command I have tried, which was created via DVDO Utility IR Tool:
Function: 49, Value: 10, copy and paste to ProntoEdit NG for RU960:

0000 006C 0023 0000 0064 0064 0016 0041 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0041 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0041 0016 0015 0016 0041 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0041 0016 0041 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0041 0016 0015 0016 0041 0016 0015 0016 0041 0016 0015 0016 0041 0044 0044 0016 0064

I'm really growing tired of my VP50Pro freezing up on me just about any time the input content changes resolutions. It has really become insufferable when jumping between the HD menus to SD bonus features on many Blu-ray discs. I have to unplug and replug the VP50Pro all the time lately.

I still have an old VP50 in the closet that I haven't used in a long time. I don't remember having any of these freeze-up problems with that.

Can someone remind me what features the VP50Pro offers that I'd lose by going back to the VP50? I don't use detail enhancement or noise reduction anyway, so those aren't big losses for me. I also route my Blu-ray player to my receiver first before the scaler, so HD audio passthrough isn't an issue. Is there any other major functionality I'd have to give up?

I'm really growing tired of my VP50Pro freezing up on me just about any time the input content changes resolutions. It has really become insufferable when jumping between the HD menus to SD bonus features on many Blu-ray discs. I have to unplug and replug the VP50Pro all the time lately.

I still have an old VP50 in the closet that I haven't used in a long time. I don't remember having any of these freeze-up problems with that.

Can someone remind me what features the VP50Pro offers that I'd lose by going back to the VP50? I don't use detail enhancement or noise reduction anyway, so those aren't big losses for me. I also route my Blu-ray player to my receiver first before the scaler, so HD audio passthrough isn't an issue. Is there any other major functionality I'd have to give up?

The VP50pro has 12V triggers, right? I'm a little upset my VP50 does not, since I'd like to be able to have it turn on when I power up my receiver (which is already triggering my amp).

The VP50pro has 12V triggers, right? I'm a little upset my VP50 does not, since I'd like to be able to have it turn on when I power up my receiver (which is already triggering my amp).

The 12V triggers wouldn't help you unless the VP50PRO was turning on your AV receiver and amps as the triggers are outputs, not inputs.

Is there any other major functionality I'd have to give up?

These are the differences:

Two Programmable 12V Triggers
Enhanced Anamorphic Lens Support
Upgradeable to HD-SDI (with Optional Input Module)

So unless you are using a anamorphic lens that needs a 12V trigger....not much.

Two Programmable 12V Triggers
Enhanced Anamorphic Lens Support
Upgradeable to HD-SDI (with Optional Input Module)

So unless you are using a anamorphic lens that needs a 12V trigger....not much.

I do use a lens, but not an automated one. Do you recall what the difference in lens support is?

Thanks.

I do use a lens, but not an automated one. Do you recall what the difference in lens support is?

Thanks.

The VP50PRO is "Panamorph Compatible" which means that the Lens is its own parameter in the Output AR menu (Display/Lens/Screen). You can do exactly the same thing with the VP50 by using the Display and Screen parameters in conjunction with Display Profiles.

Thanks again. I may need to give this a shot.

I believe the VP50 Pro also has these features:

Mosquito Noise Reduction - reduces random noise which appears along the edges of compressed images

Fine Detail Enhancement - to extract fine detail in low-resolution or compressed sources

Edge Enhancement - to sharpen edges without adding any ringing

I believe the VP50 Pro also has these features:

Mosquito Noise Reduction - reduces random noise which appears along the edges of compressed images

Fine Detail Enhancement - to extract fine detail in low-resolution or compressed sources

Edge Enhancement - to sharpen edges without adding any ringing

Yes it does, but Josh Z doesn't use these "features" and asked for the other differences

Hi. I have a dumb question. I was an early adopter of the VP50 when it came out in 2006 i believe. My question pertains to the newest software download version 1.09. If I download the 1.09 software upgrade will I automatically get all the fixes from the 1.07? Seems it should.

thanks

Hi. I have a dumb question. I was an early adopter of the VP50 when it came out in 2006 i believe. My question pertains to the newest software download version 1.09. If I download the 1.09 software upgrade will I automatically get all the fixes from the 1.07? Seems it should.

thanks

Yes, the 1.09 update is all you need. Any changes done subsequent to 1.09 are included.

Should I buy a VP50 B-Stock? I'd like as little lag as possible on my Wii and I'd like SD channels and my VHS tapes not to look like garbage. Is this what I'm looking for? Will buying B-Stock mean it'll just have cosmetic imperfections or does it mean it's likely to crap out on me.

Will this machine work wonders for even older gaming systems like the SNES, NES, even the Atari 2600?

The VP50 is the only DVDO processor which is **NOT** compatible with older videogame systems. Get an Edge instead.

I did the V1.9 and still NO 1080p 24fps......I guess I might need to reinstall it.

The VP50 is the only DVDO processor which is **NOT** compatible with older videogame systems. Get an Edge instead.

Oh, I'm behind on what the different models do. The last IGN article mentions the VP50 http://gear.ign.com/articles/745/745717p1.html

So does the Edge only have one game mode or does it have a few game modes that would allow the picture quality to look decent while minimizing lag as much as possible? Because I could just buy any television since most of them now have a built in game mode, the problem is that the picture always looks ugly as sin.

Yes, the Edge has only one Gamemode, similar to the Gamemode1 on the VPxx models.

Will the iScan Duo be compatible with older game consoles? And are there multiple game modes?

I am still using 1.05 firware version on vp50pro. I thought this is the latest but saw some mentioning of 1.09 version here. Is it available already?

EDIT: Oops, sorry wrong forum. I thought I am in vp50pro discussion.

Phebert
Funny, I have seen the same a couple of times, when I was setting a BDP-S550 via component output 1080i) to VP50 version 1.06 and outputtet via BNC ( 1080P) to my CRT - before that, I have never seen it before ( have an PS3 connectet too - also via component and in1080i/ out 1080P )
After that I even saw the PS3 do it a few times ( black screen about a second ) but have not testet it the last days - I will look after it the next days, to see if it still do it.

But we can with big confidence say, that it cant be the HDCP ( the is no, on the component ) and my CRT have had problems with the timings.

When I had the black outs, my info screen from the VP50 input sections said " no signal or Unknown signal ( cant really remember with one, sorry :o )
so I think it has something to do with the input signal - the movie I saw it with, was the X-files ( the new one ) and it was repeatable on the BDP-S550 at the same spot ( around 1 hour.15 min. and 13. sec ) but on the PS3 it happening later :confused: but again repeatable.
I di try two different inputs ( component 1 and the BNC with adapteres BNC/Phono ) and two different cables.

I have had the VP50 for a long time ( years ) and I have never seen it before with the PS3 or any other product I have ( VCR, DVD, DVB-T , )

If I find out anything - I will post it ( or if I see it again in other movies) - by the way, it will be by the PS3.

dj


Just an info related to the losing off the input signal - after Im updated to version 1.09 I have not seen the problem anymore, I cross my fingers :)

dj

Hello ,

I have a problem with my vp50.
I had this bought some time ago, and put it in storage.
Now i wanted to play with it, and i came accross a problem.
Ive connected a pc to the vp50 with hdmi.
Also a oppo 981 with hdmi.

Then the dvdo to my samsung plasma.
The image is good, but i cant get the audio to work.
Changed the settings to hdmi in dvdo settings, but it wont work.
If i push info on the dvdo , i see audio pcm stream.
What am i doing wrong?

Kindly regards,

Tony

I would try to set the Oppo to output PCM instead of bitstreaming.
I've had some issues with my Oppo and Samsung TVs (both plasma and LCD).
Could you please try to set the VP to output any of the YCbCr formats (4:2:2 or 4:4:4)?
I can only send RGB to Samsung displays, else I just get a purplish screen.

I can only send RGB to Samsung displays, else I just get a purplish screen

My Oppo does the same.
Changed settings possible in oppo and dvdo.
Only rgb is okay, the other 4.4...gets purple.

I changed everything in the oppo to pcm .
Still no sound.

Regards,

Tony

Did you also set this:
Speaker Setup Page > Down-mix to “Stereo”.?

Is LPCM set to 48K?

Ive connected a pc to the vp50 with hdmi.
Just of out curiosity, have you ever sucessfully connected the PC directly to the TV with working audio?

I only mention this because not all PC's will output audio via HDMI, with the earliest versions the most problematic. Other PC's will require driver updates to enable audio along with manually configuring the computer to output audio via HDMI instead of analog audio out.

Today i will try further.

Yeah, i have a ati 5870 card, and normally i have it connected straight to the tv with hdmi.
That is working fine.

I ll try to set the pcm to 48 , see if that works.
After i come home from work.

Regards,

Tony

Will the VP50 pass 1080p/24?

Will the VP50 pass 1080p/24?

Absolutely!

I'm having issues from a PS3 sending 1080p 24 signal to my panasonic TH65 v11s plasma... the plasma is capable of accepting 1080p24 - however the signal coming from the DVDO appears 'mirrored' on the display .... like the image is splitting..... only 1080p60 works....

has anyone else had this problem? I noticed some issues earlier in the thread back in late 2007 ... still going through it ... but if anyone has a silver bullet please let me know ...

i've recently upgraded to 1.09 firmware specially to have 1080p 24...

I'm having issues from a PS3 sending 1080p 24 signal to my panasonic TH65 v11s plasma... the plasma is capable of accepting 1080p24 - however the signal coming from the DVDO appears 'mirrored' on the display .... like the image is splitting..... only 1080p60 works....

has anyone else had this problem? I noticed some issues earlier in the thread back in late 2007 ... still going through it ... but if anyone has a silver bullet please let me know ...

i've recently upgraded to 1.09 firmware specially to have 1080p 24...G'day Marcelo...long time no hear :).

Hey, I'm not having any problems with my VP50 and 24Hz FR which I use quite regularly with my Sharp panel (which like your does native 24Hz.)

It takes a bit of fiddling to get the frame rate locking set up I found, but once you have it and have assigned it to a profile and saved that profile, you should normally not have any problems.

I'm running Vs 1.09.1.92z8 which I imagine is exactly the same as you are running now.

Take it you've been able to get a proper picture on your tV from a BD player at 24Hz?

The other night, while watching a DVD, the audio went out. This has happened many times over the years of owning the VP50 and unplugging and replugging the power cord to the VP50 has always solved the problem. However, this time, when I plugged the power cord back in, the VP50 did not power up. No power on light or LCD panel display. I replugged everything and checked the connections on the power cord/brick but the VP50 does not power up. I'm wondering if it has given up the ghost. Can anyone suggest some method of confirming whether I have a dead unit or perhaps one that is just in a deep sleep....? :confused:

The external power supply/brick probably took a dump, very likely it blew out a capacitor. There have been few people that have had them go bad that way.

Just wanted to follow-up to my previous post re: my 'dead' VP50. It was indeed the power brick which has now been replaced and the VP50 is back to life. FYI, I received a quick reply to my email message to Anchor Bay support.

Just wanted to follow-up to my previous post re: my 'dead' VP50. It was indeed the power brick which has now been replaced and the VP50 is back to life. FYI, I received a quick reply to my email message to Anchor Bay support.

How did you replace? You got the part from whom? Is that something simple to do?

Bought the power adaptor off Amazon. I bought a Manhattan configurable power adaptor (Just make sure it can do 6V 7A), the configuration instructions were fairly easy to follow. You can also buy the power adaptor direct from Anchor Bay, search under accessories.

G'day Marcelo...long time no hear :).

Hey, I'm not having any problems with my VP50 and 24Hz FR which I use quite regularly with my Sharp panel (which like your does native 24Hz.)

It takes a bit of fiddling to get the frame rate locking set up I found, but once you have it and have assigned it to a profile and saved that profile, you should normally not have any problems.

I'm running Vs 1.09.1.92z8 which I imagine is exactly the same as you are running now.

Take it you've been able to get a proper picture on your tV from a BD player at 24Hz?

Hey Phil,

I've been pretty busy and away from forums for a while now .... since I posted the last comment, I didn't try anymore.... not sure what the issue is, could be framerate . if I output directly to the panel is fine... (PS3)

the mac mini also doesn't work well if I connect it straight to the onkyo amp ... it needs to go via the DVDO .... (output at 720p .. it 'tears' at 1080p ...

so the set up, as usual is a little complicated, and I don't have much time now for any investigation..... it will have to be delayed.... it just annoys me (sure you can understand) that I can't get 1080p 24 working perfectly .... I guess 1080p 60/50 will have to do ....

cheers,

Marcelo
PS: hope you are well ... Say hi to Robert when you see him.

I had automatic sd/hd selection working fine on the VP50 for some months now, together with the Oppo BDP83 bd player.
I had set 24p "fixed" or "auto" on the Oppo and both worked fine: whenever a film did 24p that was accepted and shown as such under the VP's "info".

Recently, for no apparent reason, whenever I select 24p in the Oppo, the VP50's "curtain" draws close, and the pic becomes black.
I've reset the Oppo to factory settings but the issue remains.

I tried changing hdmi and many other options, but that won't help.

Only the 60 Hz setting (on the Oppo) seems to work.

What may have gone wrong?