Has the date been set when they'll announce the participants for the new season? Obviously, it will occur on GMA, since they've done that in the past.
I saw earlier tonight while watching the always hilarious Wipeout that the lineup for season 8 will be announced next Sunday, at various times during ABC's primetime programs. Stay tuned...

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b81746_dancing_dish_next_nfl_star_ready_rumba.html

Sounds like NFL legend Lawrence Taylor may working on his waltz for the eighth season of Dancing With the Stars.

And guess who may have been the one to out Mr. Taylor as a possible contestant on the hit ABC reality show?

Ashton Kutcher!

Kutcher apparently met Taylor, who turns 50 on Feb. 4, last night in Tampa during pre-Super Bowl festivities.

“Just met LT, the old-school Lawrence Taylor,” Kutcher posted on his Twitter feed (yes, his Twitter feed!). “Expect to see him in prime time soon. Can't say where but he better work on his footwork.”

Of course, Kutcher may not be referring to DWTS, but we all know how much the show loves their gridiron guys.

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I wonder if he will send hookers to his opponents the night before the show. I believe that was the rumor surrounding him during his playing days.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b81746_dancing_dish_next_nfl_star_ready_rumba.html

Sounds like NFL legend Lawrence Taylor may working on his waltz for the eighth season of Dancing With the Stars.


Or he'll furnish the coke for the after-show parties. Probably still has the appropriate connections. ;)

ABC PR announcing plans for the upcoming reveal of the season 8 lineup:

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20090203abc01

As previously mentioned, the cast will be announced at various times throughout ABC's Sunday night programming; the cast list will also be updated throughout the evening on abc.com. GMA will feature a cast member the following morning, and Jimmy Kimmel will have another cast member on his late-night show next Tuesday. (Will the lucky cast member get to dance with Guillermo?:D)

The new rumor is that Denise Richards is on the show this season.

So, does anyone have any predictions as to which pros have retired?

Will Corky be back?

Will Julianne be back?

Will Mark and Derek be back?

I'm fairly certain that Maks and Karina are back since they mentioned it in their engagement announcement. But I haven't heard anything about the other pros.

Will Julianne be back?



No. She's done. Concentrating on her singing career. Look for her back on the show in a couple of years though. Girl's gotta' eat. ;)

The new rumor is that Denise Richards is on the show this season.


All riighhht!


So, does anyone have any predictions as to which pros have retired?

Will Corky be back?


Man, I hope so, and with a partner that will let him show how good he is (or was). He really demonstrated class by subjugating his performance to the needs of Phyllis (that was some subjugation), and I'd really like to see what a 3-time World Latin champion can do, even at an advanced age.

fredfa was resourceful enough to post the lineup for season 8 in the HOTP thread, as announced by ABC tonight. Here it is:

Belinda Carlisle “the number one Go-Go"/Jonathan Roberts (OH BOY! I've been a big fan of Belinda and the Go-Go's since I was in high school. I'll be pulling for her to do well on the floor. :))
David Alan Grier “comedy’s chameleon”/Kym Johnson
Steve Wozniak “Mac’s mastermind” (co-founder of Apple Inc.)/Karina Smirnoff Ty Murray (rodeo star)/Chelsie Hightower (one of the hotties of SYTYCD season 4, where she finished in the top 6; newcomer for this cycle)
Jewel (gorgeous singer/songwriter/poet, and Ty Murray's wife)/Dmitry Chaplin (SYTYCD season 2 top 20; this cycle's other newcomer)
Shawn Johnson “Olympic gold medalist”/Mark Ballas
Chuck Wicks “country singer”/Julianne Hough (Chuck's girlfriend)
Gilles Marini “’Sex and the City’ stud”/Cheryl Burke
Denise Richards “film and TV star”/Maksim "Maks" Chmerkovskiy(Karina's fiance)
Lil’ Kim (hip-hop icon)/Derek Hough
Steve-O “reality star”/Lacey Schwimmer
Nancy O’Dell “Access Hollywood host”/Tony Dovolani
Lawrence Taylor “NFL legend”/Edyta Sliwinska

UPDATE: Some celebrity/pro pairings have been confirmed (Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_with_the_Stars_(U.S._season_8))); I have noted them here. The pairings will be officially announced on Feb. 12.

UPDATE 2: The remainder of the pairings have apparently been confirmed; they too are noted above. Also, I have learned that Chelsie will partner with Ty instead of David.

UPDATE 3: Pairings have been corrected according to the official ABC PR (http://abc.go.com/primetime/dancingwiththestars/index?pn=about)(thanks Mac The Knife!)

An exciting new wrinkle for this go-round, as explained in the ABC PR of the cast announcement: (http://abc.go.com/primetime/dancingwiththestars/index?pn=about)

And in an exciting new twist, the bottom two couples facing elimination will Dance Off to determine who is dismissed in the first weeks of competition.
Also, we will be seeing two new dances: Argentine Tango and East Coast Swing.

No. She's done. Concentrating on her singing career. Look for her back on the show in a couple of years though. Girl's gotta' eat. ;)

I was not expecting her back either - but considering they booked her current bo as one of the 13 D-List Stars, one has to wonder if this was done to get her back on the show.

Shawn Johnson “Olympic gold medalist”
Who is the shortest dance pro - that'll be her partner. She's a midget but a cutie!

Nancy O’Dell “Access Hollywood host”
hawt

I was not expecting her back either - but considering they booked her current bo as one of the 13 D-List Stars, one has to wonder if this was done to get her back on the show.

I think this is a clear sign that her [Julianne] CD bombed and she's going to have to re-think this whole singing career thing. Meanwhile, she can bank another 6 figures for another season of DWTS.

Another reason I'm looking forward to season 8 when it begins next month, courtesy of the L.A. Times' Allyssa Lee: (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/02/dancing-with-th.html)

And back on the pro side, a "So You Think You Can Dance" crossover alert: Dewy "SYTYCD" contender and fan favorite Chelsie Hightower (check out her fantastic "Bleeding Love" routine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEJizcDyk5w)) will no doubt bring a much-needed gust of youthful energy as she joins fellow alum Lacey Schwimmer on the show.

"Cha-Cha Chelsie," as I call her, finished in the top 6 on SYTYCD season 4 (but danced much better than that IMO). She is excellent at Latin dances, so she should do well with whomever she is partnered with when they dance a Latin routine.:)

EDIT: I replaced the YouTube link provided by the reporter with one to another video of the same routine with better quality.

EDIT 2: My mind was in a haze-I inadvertently put Chelsie a couple of placings higher than she really finished.:o

Thank goodness, no Osmond!

Overload of country artists though.

Will L'il Kim have a wardrobe malfunction?

(...will she have a wardrobe???) :)

"lil kim...she's phat...

...that's p-h fat..."

Heh heh... :D

Denise was supposedly on GMA and Maks was there too.

So far the only pairings I could find are the following:

Chuck & Julianne
Denise & Maks

Based on body type, I'd guess that either Cheryl or Kym end up with LT. And whoever's left over gets Woz.

And I'm thinking perhaps Lacey and Gilles and the new girl gets David.

I've run out of guesses.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/dancingwiththestars/index?pn=about

To top it off, country crooner, Chuck Wicks teams with girlfriend and two-time Dancing with the Stars champ, Julianne Hough.

This is surprising to me, with 'chemistry' being so often mentioned in the judges comments I am surprised that nobody would consider that pairing a real-life couple might be considered 'unfair'.

I would be happy if Julianne is shut out... The ingrate

http://abc.go.com/primetime/dancingwiththestars/index?pn=about



This is surprising to me, with 'chemistry' being so often mentioned in the judges comments I am surprised that nobody would consider that pairing a real-life couple might be considered 'unfair'.

Show's been on long enough without doing it, so they giving it a try for this season.

I was really impressed with Chelsie this past summer. She can move those hips.

She did a latin dance towards the end of her run that was outstanding. Should be a nice addition.

Love me some Chelsie Hightower

Some celebrity/pro pairings have been confirmed ahead of the official announcement tomorrow; I have noted them in my earlier post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15773814#post15773814

EDIT: The remainder of the pairings have apparently been confirmed; I have also noted them in the earlier post.

So it looks like we lost Alec, Corky & Inna.

BTW, It looks like they changed the lineups after SowegaBowler posted.
The Wiki article now has the lineup as:

Belinda & Jonathon
David & Kym
Jewel & Dmitry
Shawn & Mark
Lil Kim & Derek (now that's an interesting pairing!)
Gilles & Cheryl
Ty & Chelsie
Steve-O & Lacey
Nancy & Tony
Denise & Maks (which of these two hot-heads will explode first?)
LT & Edyta (I knew that post that had LT & Karina looked wrong)
Chuck & Julianne
Woz & Karina

Looks like all my guesses were wrong. But I knew they couldn't match the smallest pro, Karina, with the biggest celeb, LT! :eek:

I will go out on a limb, like I haven’t done that before, without even seeing a first dance, and declare the winning pair will be…

Gilles & Cheryl

She’s due for a rebound, has a strong male and female fan base
and this guy will surly get the women vote… this is assuming he has a personality.

Mac: Thanks for posting the official pairings. I have corrected them in my earlier post.

I will go out on a limb, like I haven’t done that before, without even seeing a first dance, and declare the winning pair will be…

Gilles & Cheryl

She’s due for a rebound, has a strong male and female fan base
and this guy will surly get the women vote… this is assuming he has a personality.

None of the pairings is really jumping out at me. That's probably as good a guess as any.

I'm not really expecting a lot out of Shawn since she's always seemed to be more of a "tumbler" than a "dancer". If it had been Natasia instead of Shawn...

Maybe this will finally be a good season for Jonathon being paired with Belinda.

And I'll be disappointed If Len doesn't complain about Lil Kim being "too raunchy" every week. :D

Crap. Jewel, of all babes. Damn. Why oh why did it have to be her? I was hoping to finally rid myself of this show and the 3-5 hours a week it commands (1.5 or 2 would be a gracious plenty and I'd have no complaints). I bagged the fall season and was so proud of myself for working up the courage to say goodbye to Kym. :p But to paraphrase that great philosopher Michael Corleone, every time I think I'm out, Tom and Sam just pull me back in. :(

And I'll be disappointed If Len doesn't complain about Lil Kim being "too raunchy" every week. :D
:D I can hear that happening…

and then… one of her posse, in the front row, will jump up and threaten Len with a--- “I’ll busta cap in yo ass playa hata” --with his 'nine' (held horizontally of course). :p :D

:D I can hear that happening…

and then… one of her posse, in the front row, will jump up and threaten Len with a--- “I’ll busta cap in yo ass playa hata” --with his 'nine' (held horizontally of course). :p :D

ABC can only hope. Think what a ratings bonanza that would be! :D

Entertainment Tonight does not mention Nancy O'Dell in its reporting on DWTS, as she stars on its rival Access Hollywood:

http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/blink/

(first posted by fredfa in the HOTP thread)

An exciting new wrinkle for this go-round, as explained in the ABC PR of the cast announcement: (http://abc.go.com/primetime/dancingwiththestars/index?pn=about)


Sounds the same as the last few series of the original UK show (Strictly Come Dancing) also made by the BBC.

When the BBC shifted from two live shows (main show and results show) on Saturday night, to a live main show on Saturday, followed by a pre-recorded results show on Sunday night (the results show is now recorded on Saturday night after the live show and shown on Sunday) they introduced the dance-off, which is decided by the judges not the public (as phone voting during a recorded show isn't possible)

We've also had two major voting issues on the UK show in the last season - when too many dancers tied with the same judges score. The dual ranking used to allocate scores from judges and public voting meant that it became impossible for the public vote to save some couples from the dance-off. This was decided to be unacceptable - so they then got Len to rank the tied couples rather than allowing them all to tie...

(Len and Bruno are also judges on the UK show - though we have two other judges - Arlene Philips, a very well known choreographer, and Craig Revel Horwood, also a choreographer and director. They are both more straight-talking than Len and Bruno - Craig in particular.)

...
We've also had two major voting issues on the UK show in the last season - when too many dancers tied with the same judges score. The dual ranking used to allocate scores from judges and public voting meant that it became impossible for the public vote to save some couples from the dance-off. This was decided to be unacceptable - so they then got Len to rank the tied couples rather than allowing them all to tie...

...

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

The irony is that all the tied scores were an attempt to avoid bruised egos and yet Len still ends up having to rank them and bruise some egos.

If they'd just give them all realistic scores and not worry about the egos then all this extra sillyness wouldn't be necessary.

How dare you give me a "7", Sir !

I am a STAR !

Adam Carolla (the class clown of season 6) was dismissed from his L.A. radio talk show this week, a victim of his station's format change:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-klsx21-2009feb21,0,1174008.story

^^ but you can still hear him at carollaradio.com - He's going to start podcasting :D

America's Ballroom Challenge starts up this week.

It's on Wednesday night on my PBS affiliate, but it seems that other PBS stations have carried it on different nights in the past. So you should check your local listings.

I think it has a new hostess this year since they have some new woman doing the promo instead of Jasmine.

Reminder Bump that America's Ballroom Challenge starts tonight.

Reminder Bump that America's Ballroom Challenge starts tonight.

Thank you.

Good thing I can program my Tivo from the internet !!

Reminder Bump that America's Ballroom Challenge starts tonight.

Ended the same night! :)

I guess either the popularity of this type of Ballroom is waning or PBS had to cut its budget. Really condensed version of the way it used to be done.

I won't say anything more since some people may not have seen it yet (I actually wasn't interested in it at all but wifey was fascinated).

Yeah it got hacked down from five hours to two. So basically all the group dancing got cut out. I've always found the group dancing frustrating since you only get little flashes of each couple and they never seem to show the couple I'm interested in.

What I really missed is all the junior exhibition dances. They only had one junior pair and all the other exihibitions were a bunch of pro-am couples that I don't care about.

OTOH Iwas happy that there were several good show dances and that Yulia is back with a new partner.

Anna was looking good this season. I think she's as buff as I've I can remember.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/759/annap.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annap.jpg)

And Jonathon made the finals this season with Valentina as his partner. This is as sexy a look as I've ever seen for Valentina.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6155/jonathonvalentina.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jonathonvalentina.jpg)

Daniella was looking good as usual.
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3682/daniella.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daniella.jpg)

I have to include one of Bree since she's the hometown hottie.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2456/bree.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bree.jpg)

There were some interesting costumes this season including catwoman:
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9641/catwomanq.th.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=catwomanq.jpg)

And a swan:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4352/swan.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=swan.jpg)

The illusion created by Yulia's nude-colored body stocking was really working well:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2899/yuliafringe.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yuliafringe.jpg)

And (stealing some lines from Body Heat) Bill Hurt: You shouldn't dress so sexy. K. Turner: I don't know what you're talking about it's just a blouse and skirt. Bill: Maybe you shouldn't wear that body.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3111/yuliared.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yuliared.jpg)

And this pic of Carolina kind of sums up my bittersweet feelings about the whole show last night. Some parts were really good, like the way Carolina's body looks in that unitard. And other things were a big bummer (Carolina, girl, What the heck were you thinking when you did that to your hair???). That's the least attractive hair style that I've ever seen Carolina wear.
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7885/carolina.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=carolina.jpg)

Google ad at the top of this page.

(I'm at work and can't use firefox to block)

http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CMO3mMWOl_34hAEQ2AUYTzIIv5DwZ2fIphM

^^^^That's the band whose MySpace page I linked to in an earlier post.

I listened to one or two songs of theirs on that page; they are not too bad, but I think Mark and Derek should stick to dancing.;)

DWTS medical update:

Gilles Marini felt some pain in his groin during rehearsal yesterday and sought medical treatment:

http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/02/27/dancings-gilles-marini-injured/?xid=rss-topheadlines

Meanwhile, Jewel injured her knees during rehearsal, but plans to continue with the show-for now:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29415979/

Shawn Johnson interview with partner.

http://www.eonline.com/videos/v39173_Shawn_Johnson_Gears_Up_for_DWTS.html

I saw an interview with Lil' Kim yesterday. She said she got interested in DWTS while in jail. :D

It seems that DWTS is very popular in the women's jail, so it always got the most votes for what was going to be shown on the common room TV.

They also showed a bunch of shots of Kim in some of the scanty costumes she wears. Stuff like just a pastie covering her nipples and such. But I was channel surfing so I didn't have the recorder running, so I don't have any screen caps.

Please tell me there isn't going to be five hours of this thing the first week.

According to the schedule on abc.com, there will be only two. The 2-hour season premiere will be this Monday (and will be repeated on Saturday 3/14); the first results show will be on 3/17, but not before another performance show on the 16th.

From what I remember, the scores from these first two shows will be combined.

According to the schedule on abc.com, there will be only two. The 2-hour season premiere will be this Monday (and will be repeated on Saturday 3/14); the first results show will be on 3/17, but not before another performance show on the 16th.

From what I remember, the scores from these first two shows will be combined.

Well, that's more reasonable. Two hours a week for any one show is a gracious plenty when the schedule is so full of other worthwhile fare. That 5 hours the first week back in the fall season knocked our season pass right out off the show. Too much fluff; too much Sam; just a cash-grab by ABC.

From People.com:

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/features/tvblog/090316/belinda_carlisle240x320.jpg

Belinda (shown above in rehearsal with Jonathan), who has always been a bit quirky, says she may have a problem with spinning, but also says she is looking forward to competing on DWTS:

http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/03/04/belinda-carlisle-reveals-her-dancing-problem-spinning/

(Small technical point: though the article says she is the Go-Go's "former lead singer," she and her bandmates still get together for a few weeks every year to perform live; in fact, according to the band's Web site (http://www.gogos.com/welcome.php), the band is scheduled to perform a few dates late next month, late in this upcoming cycle.)

Injuries Force Nancy O’Dell, Jewel to Stop ‘Dancing’

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15980565&postcount=31390

DWTS: Holly Madison Added

The question is no longer who will win Dancing With the Stars, but who will survive it?

In a DWTS first, not one but two contestants have been sidelined with injuries before the new season has even aired.

ABC has just confirmed that Access Hollywood host Nancy O'Dell and singer Jewel will not be a part of the new season due to leg injuries.

O'Dell suffered a twist to her right knee during rehearsals and has been diagnosed with a torn meniscus. Jewel has suffered fractured tibiae in both legs. Ouch, right?

So who will replace the two ladies? We have exclusive confirmation...

As our Marc Malkin reported yesterday, inside sources confirm that Holly Madison of E!'s reality series Girls Next Door will be coming on the dancefloor this season.

DWTS: Holly Madison Added

The question is no longer who will win Dancing With the Stars, but who will survive it?

In a DWTS first, not one but two contestants have been sidelined with injuries before the new season has even aired.

ABC has just confirmed that Access Hollywood host Nancy O'Dell and singer Jewel will not be a part of the new season due to leg injuries.

O'Dell suffered a twist to her right knee during rehearsals and has been diagnosed with a torn meniscus. Jewel has suffered fractured tibiae in both legs. Ouch, right?

So who will replace the two ladies? We have exclusive confirmation...

As our Marc Malkin reported yesterday, inside sources confirm that Holly Madison of E!'s reality series Girls Next Door will be coming on the dancefloor this season.

And now, Hugh Hefner himself comfirms today to Malkin that his ex-girlfriend Holly has been cast, saying he "made the arrangments" for Madison to replace Jewel on the show.

"It's a show she's wanted to be on for a long time," Hefner tells Malkin. "I'm delighted. It's all good stuff."

The other newbie will be announced on the Dancing With the Stars season premiere on Monday night. And according to ABC, Jewel and O'Dell will appear to talk about their injuries.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watc..._holly_in.html


this means all 3 of "the girls next door" will be on tv as kendra has her own show on E! this summer & bridget has her own show on the travel channel starting soon.

"It's a show she's wanted to be on for a long time," Hefner tells Malkin. "I'm delighted. It's all good stuff."

The other newbie will be announced on the Dancing With the Stars season premiere on Monday night. And according to ABC, Jewel and O'Dell will appear to talk about their injuries.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watc..._holly_in.html


this means all 3 of "the girls next door" will be on tv as kendra has her own show on E! this summer & bridget has her own show on the travel channel starting

As posted by dcowboy7 in the HOTP Thread

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15982120#post15982120

Jewel out - well, that lets me off the hook for this season! For those still intending to watch, my guess is rodeo boy will drop out and the two of 'em will try again in the fall. Otherwise, they'll have to plug in yet another female sub, and there's not enough time for that, is there? Besides, you know ABC doesn't want to lose the much anticipated cute-factor of those two country love-birds "competing" against each other.

... ABC doesn't want to lose the much anticipated cute-factor of those two country love-birds "competing" against each other.

I was also wondering what they might do about that.


And both Nancy and Jewel looked really good their latin costumes, so we've lost a lot of the eye-candy for this season.

AFA other replacements are concerned, [donning flame retardant suit] maybe Misty May is ready for another shot . Her achilles tendon should be in pretty good shape by now and she already has enough experience that she doesn't need 4 weeks of pre-season training. ;)

Don't know, but just read a column (in NY Post) that indicated Melissa Rycroft from "The Bachelor" was hired to replace Nancy O'Dell.

We'll see.

Melissa's good choice. As a former Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, she should be able to produce a watchable routine even with just 3 or 4 days of practice.

And after how she got dumped on the national TV, there is a huge support for her.

At least another eye candy...

Don't know, but just read a column (in NY Post) that indicated Melissa Rycroft from "The Bachelor" was hired to replace Nancy O'Dell.

We'll see.

Smart

From Fredfa's "Hot Off The Press" thread:

TV Notes
'Bachelor' castoff readies to dance
From Verne Gay, Newsday - March 9, 2009

Who needs a bachelor?

Melissa Rycroft - dumped by Jason Mesnick on the post-finale of "The Bachelor" and just like that, one of TV's most famous jilted lovers - will join "Dancing With the Stars" tonight for the eighth season.

People magazine first reported the last minute replacement, although ABC pointedly, and tellingly, declined to deny it.

A spokeswoman said yesterday, "ABC isn't commenting, but all will be revealed on Monday's show."

Holly Madison, former girlfriend of Hugh Hefner, is also expected to join the show.

Is Rycroft a surprise? Maybe for anyone unschooled in the ways of TV. She became an insta-mega-celebrity last week after Mesnick rejected her for Molly Malaney (who had been earlier rejected - don't ask ... please).

Then, with almost eerie convenience, "Access Hollywood" co-anchor Nancy O'Dell - booked to appear on "DWTS" - dropped out due to a reported injury, along with Jewel. Suddenly there were two openings, and just like that, they've been filled.

Rycroft, 25, is a former Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, and - through last week's "Bachelor" reunion show, anyway - the love of Mesnick's life, "forever." Alas, he changed his mind.

Madison stars in an E! reality show called "The Girls Next Door."

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/ny-etdanc096063165mar09,0,342699.story?track=rss

wow....i guess this is a show nobody posts about while its on huh.

wow....i guess this is a show nobody posts about while its on huh.:D Yeah, this is a unique group.;) Not only no posts during the show but some actually wait to comment until after the west coast feed is complete.

My quick response for each.

Lil’ Kim and Derek Hough – better than expected
Belinda Carlisle and Jonathan Roberts - meh
Lawrence Taylor and Edyta Sliwinska – first terrible football player
Steve-O and Lacey Schwimmer - surprising
Gilles Marini and Cheryl Burke – no back fat
Chuck Wicks and Julianne Hough – barf (can’t take the lovey dovey junk)
Holly Madison and Dmitry Chaplin – looked stiff
Ty Murray and Chelsie Hightower – poor Chelsie
Shawn Johnson and Mark Ballas – My fav (Shawn that is)
Steve Wozniak and Karina Smirnoff – train wreck
David Alan Grier and Kym Johnson – staying power
Denise Richards and Maksim Chmerkovskiy - wah
Melissa Rycroft and Tony Dovolani – never watched bachelor, first time I’ve seen her, Hawt.

In Tucson over the air, we had about 10 minutes of Spanish audio mixed in with the English. Was that everywhere, or was it just a stupid Tucson screw up??:rolleyes:

Tucson screwup

My quick response for each.

Lil’ Kim and Derek Hough – better than expected
Belinda Carlisle and Jonathan Roberts - meh
Lawrence Taylor and Edyta Sliwinska – first terrible football player
Steve-O and Lacey Schwimmer - surprising
Gilles Marini and Cheryl Burke – no back fat
Chuck Wicks and Julianne Hough – barf (can’t take the lovey dovey junk)
Holly Madison and Dmitry Chaplin – looked stiff
Ty Murray and Chelsie Hightower – poor Chelsie
Shawn Johnson and Mark Ballas – My fav (Shawn that is)
Steve Wozniak and Karina Smirnoff – train wreck
David Alan Grier and Kym Johnson – staying power
Denise Richards and Maksim Chmerkovskiy - wah
Melissa Rycroft and Tony Dovolani – never watched bachelor, first time I’ve seen her, Hawt.

Great assesment. I hope Denise Richards improves enough to hang around a while. Ty Murray is a cowboy and champion bullrider. I think he has better moves with the bull. Is he the one dating Jewel? Lawrence Taylor will stick around for a while because of his fan base. I really hope he improves too. Gilles is the best male but nobody knows him. That didn't hurt the Indy car driver a couple of seasons back. Melissa is either a very fast learner or a ringer.

I thought the men were a disaster. Only Gilles and Grier have a chance.

Lots of good women. The early fav, Shawn, was a disappointment. Carrying a lot of extra weight too.

I thought the men were a disaster. Only Gilles and Grier have a chance.

Lots of good women. The early fav, Shawn, was a disappointment. Carrying a lot of extra weight too.

Almost agree.

I didn't like any of the men: my three fave women were Shawn, Li'l Kim (is that where the apostrophe goes?) and perhaps Melissa.

It's REALLY hard to judge when they do different dance styles: even given the lack of in-hold it's going to be harder to look good in smooth than in cha-cha, say. I actually thought Kim performed quite a bit better than the judges gave her credit for (what a surprise). Wifey picked up Melissa's ballet background right off the bat; it's hard to judge her footwork in smooth when she's used to toe leads. :)

Melissa is either a very fast learner or a ringer.

Or a cheerleader who dances every week during the football season..... She's easy on the eyes.

It would be watchable if the women danced topless. :D

It would be watchable if the women danced topless. :D

Thank god they didn't do that last season!:eek:

Or a cheerleader who dances every week during the football season.

ex-dallas cowboys cheerleader....she was on the 2007 squad but not on last years 2008 squad....but yea shes the winner.

It would be watchable if the women danced topless. :D

Ratings would skyrocket

Ratings would skyrocket

Call in voters - with the sympathy thing - will keep her till the finals, at least.

ex-dallas cowboys cheerleader....she was on the 2007 squad but not on last years 2008 squad....but yea shes the winner.

Ah, gotcha. I actually sat through the Bachelor this year to watch her on TV. I wasn't even going to record DWTS this year as we didn't watch last season, but not that she's on it I am recording it.

I have another question: how big is the "women's prison voting block"? :D

Without getting into the chisled chest vs. boobs vs. prison time comparisons :D, what did everyone think of the HD image last night? Mine (KGO - San Francisco) was all over the map depending on which camera was being used. The main ballroom cameras were very good but there were times when the image of Tom Bergeron or the judges looked a bit flat or hazy. The backstage picture was, at first, pretty heavily saturated but seemed to get better as the show went on. Maybe the lighting was adjusted.

It would be watchable if the women danced topless.Ratings would skyrocket

No need to, they're already at an all-time high. From Fredfa's "Hot Off The Press" thread:

Nielsen Overnights
Most-watched 'Dancing' premiere ever
From James Hibberd's Hollywood Reporter 'Live Feed' Blog - March 10, 2009

The eighth edition of ABC's "Dancing With the Stars" had the most-watched premiere in the show's history, dramatically reversing a two-year slide.

The "Dancing" kickoff was seen by 22.5 million viewers and earned a 5.9 preliminary adults 18-49 rating and 15 share. The reality series dominated Monday evening, up 9% from last fall's premiere in the adult demo and 5% from last spring. This is first time a "Dancing" premiere has climbed in the ratings since 2007.

The show's producers had to scramble after dancing celebs Nancy O'Dell and Jewel dropped out last week. But the eleventh-hour casting of scorned "Bachelor" contestant Melissa Rycroft was a stroke-of-genius move that not only capitalized on the dating competition’s success this season, but also managed to extend ABC's Monday night reality show "story" from one series to another. Complete with a judge praising Rycroft's performance and dissing her ex-fiance Jason Mesnick, last night's "Dancing" debut played like a feel-good "Bachelor" finale do-over with Cinderella finally going to the ball.

"Dancing" led in to the series premiere of the Nathan Fillion mystery comedy "Castle" (11.6 million, 3.3/9), which opened with a number that would have been more impressive if not for its enormous lead-in. "Castle" placed second in the hour, and outperformed the average of "Boston Legal" in the time period and was on par with the year-ago debut of "Bachelor: London" in the spot.

Fox ranked second with "House" (12.1 million, 4.8/13), down 13% from its last episode to post its lowest number in four years, and "24" (11.3 million, 3.6/9), which improved slightly from last week's two-hour run.

That left CBS in an uncharacteristic third place among total viewers and the demo, with lower-than-usual (and up against stiffer competition than usual) episodes of "Big Bang Theory" (9.5 million, 3.6/10), "How I Met Your Mother" (8.5 million, 3.5/9), "Two and a Half Men" (13.3 million, 4.7/11) and "Rules of Engagement" (10 million, 3.7/9). "Rules" was down but slightly from last week's premiere. CBS re-asserted itself at 10 p.m. with hour-topping "CSI: Miami" (14.1 million, 4.3/11).

Fourth-place NBC had some bad news for "Chuck" (5.7 million, 2.0/5) fans. The show fell 17% from last week to a serious series low. "Heroes" (6.6 million, 3.2/8) matched last week's preliminary-rating series low. Yet "Medium" (7.1 million, 2.5/6) was up a tick. The CW continued crossing a desert of "Gossip Girl" repeats.

http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/03/dancing-with-the-stars-premiere-ratings.html

This thread is worthless without new pics...
Some of you fine folks need to take the burden of watching this off the rest of our shoulders, and just post the good images here. ;)

In Tucson over the air, we had about 10 minutes of Spanish audio mixed in with the English. Was that everywhere, or was it just a stupid Tucson screw up??:rolleyes:

.., what did everyone think of the HD image last night? Mine (KGO - San Francisco) was all over the map depending on which camera was being used. The main ballroom cameras were very good but there were times when the image of Tom Bergeron or the judges looked a bit flat or hazy. The backstage picture was, at first, pretty heavily saturated but seemed to get better as the show went on. Maybe the lighting was adjusted.
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I wish those were the only issues I had.

I only had a center channel of audio all night even though the "dolby digital" indicator on my receiver was lit up.

I had audio pops and clicks and video blocking (the classic ghost trail of large blocks) every few minutes throughout the entire 2 hour broadcast even though my signal strength was rock solid the whole time. I'm confident enough in my equipment now to be 99.999% certain that it wasn't a problem with my reception and that it was my local affiliate f-ing up again.

That signal was so bad, I have to go all the way back to NBC f-ing up the broadcast of Chicago several years ago to recall a worse signal.

Great assesment. I hope Denise Richards improves enough to hang around a while. Ty Murray is a cowboy and champion bullrider. I think he has better moves with the bull. Is he the one dating Jewel? Lawrence Taylor will stick around for a while because of his fan base. I really hope he improves too. Gilles is the best male but nobody knows him. That didn't hurt the Indy car driver a couple of seasons back. Melissa is either a very fast learner or a ringer.


I'll second the good assesment by Stunpals.

Yeah, Ty is dating Jewel.

Gilles was amazingly polished for the first week. I'm thinking he's the ringer. I've gotta believe he's had some kind of dance training in the past that they didn't mention. At least we all know about Mellissa's dance background.

And while I didn't know him, I'll bet there's a bunch of Sex in the City fans that also watch DWTS. We'll have to see if they're enough to keep him around. Unfortunately for him, he doesn't seem to be very articulate in English, he didn't do very well in the post dance interview and that might hurt him a bit too.


AFA judging, the only thing that bothered me is that I felt Melissa's score was perhaps a point too high. She had a couple of stumbles (stumble is an exaggeration, but I can't think of a better word) in the transitions but everything else looked really good for the first week. I would have given her trip-sevens.

Without even seeing the second dance, I'll go out on a limb and predict that Woz is the first to be eliminated. ;)

Anyone else notice what appeared to be an engagement ring on the ring finger of Melissa's left hand? Tivo doesn't lie!

I think Ty and Jewel are married.

I thought the three best last night were Shawn, Gilles and Denise, in that order. If Denise can polish up her choreography a bit more, she may be this season's Brooke Burke.

Belinda, my sentimental favorite, wasn't great (or at least of Kelly Monaco caliber), but she did look pretty graceful. As a previous poster remarked, Ty had better moves with a bull; he was WAY overshadowed by Chelsie, who truly showed the class she had in SYTYCD.

It may be a good thing that the first elimination is not until next week, because Woz, despite having a bit of a showman thing, is right now trailing the field IMO.

I have another question: how big is the "women's prison voting block"? :D

Regardless of its size you do not want to cross it.

It would be watchable if the women danced topless. :D

Only in your dreams, this is network TV, you know. I did love Chelsie's intro video, that costume was hawt! :D

Notice they didn't use the opening credits montage sequence with all the stars. ABC is probably in a mad scramble to get pics of Holly and Mellssa (and their respective partners) put graphics on them and get them inserted into the opening montage in their proper places (replacing Jewel and Nancy). Betcha it's there next Monday.

Only in your dreams, this is network TV, you know.
Notice they didn't use the opening credits montage sequence with all the stars. ABC is probably in a mad scramble to get pics of Holly

ask hef he has plenty of holly pics....oh yeah forgot....like u said this is network tv. :cool:

What's really nice is to see now three alums of SYTYCD on this show with Chelsie and Dmitri joining Lacy. I still remember Chelsie's stunning routine with Mark last year to Leona Lewis' Bleeding Love and, of course, those great hips on any of the Latin dances. The cross-pollination between the shows is a very positive thing and assures DWTS of an ongoing supply of fresh and very talented professionals.

Wow, Steve (apple co-founder) was bad. Holy buckets. None of the guys shined for me, it was mostly about the ladys.

This thread is worthless without new pics...
Some of you fine folks need to take the burden of watching this off the rest of our shoulders, and just post the good images here. ;)

Not the best shots, but here are a few I was able to get:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1108/vlcsnap46088u.png

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9114/vlcsnap78912.png

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2796/vlcsnap85817.png

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7462/vlcsnap80197.png

And, of course, one more obligatory Edyta pic:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/268/vlcsnap44279.png

Could you post pictures from Chelsie's intro section??

What's really nice is to see now three alums of SYTYCD on this show with Chelsie and Dmitri joining Lacy. I still remember Chelsie's stunning routine with Mark last year to Leona Lewis' Bleeding Love and, of course, those great hips on any of the Latin dances. The cross-pollination between the shows is a very positive thing and assures DWTS of an ongoing supply of fresh and very talented professionals.

I'm still waiting for some of the DWTS people to show up on SYTYCD! Keeps the cycle going.

(Oy, these acronyms!!) :D:D

FYI, what I was thinking is that the SYTYCD contestants always seem to be griping about the quickstep. So on one of the performance shows, Cat Deeley would introduce a pair that who could show how it's done well: "Please welcome... Banana Man... and friend!". That of course would be DWTS season 5 champs Helio Castroneves and Julianne Hough doing their 10-scoring routine (kiss and all!). Unfortunately, with all of Helios' ongoing legal problems, I don't think that's going to happen. :(:(

Could you post pictures from Chelsie's intro section??

like these?

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/315/vlcsnap170384.png

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3700/vlcsnap175396.png

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4465/vlcsnap172583.png

Oh yeah, but more pics from that intro section and that gold dress! :D

Wow, Steve (apple co-founder) was bad. Holy buckets. Yeah Steve Wozniak, what can you say :eek: Last night on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, he did a skit on DWS making fun of Steve Woznik. He had several look-a-likes doing a pathetic but funny reenactment-- all dancing at the same time. The skit was called “Was Not Wozniak!” :D

Pix of Edyta and Kym are always welcome, especially ones like the second one of Edyta. Thanks Mloot.

Pix of Edyta and Kym are always welcome, especially ones like the second one of Edyta. Thanks Mloot.

No problem. I'm new at trying to post screen shots. Were these a good size, or should I make them a bit smaller next time?

I would have had more pics of others, but I found that trying to get a clear shot during a fast dance was very difficult. When there is alot of fast motion, it seems all I get from a sceen capture is either a blurry, or sometimes pixellated image. Also, I was using VLC media player to take screen shots, and on my pc there is about a half second delay from when I hit pause to when the picture freezes, so that I can pick and choose the right moment to take a screen shot.

No problem. I'm new at trying to post screen shots. Were these a good size, or should I make them a bit smaller next time?

I would have had more pics of others, but I found that trying to get a clear shot during a fast dance was very difficult. When there is alot of fast motion, it seems all I get from a sceen capture is either a blurry, or sometimes pixellated image. Also, I was using VLC media player to take screen shots, and on my pc there is about a half second delay from when I hit pause to when the picture freezes, so that I can pick and choose the right moment to take a screen shot.

I think they're good sized as they are. The pics I want to see more of usually run in kind of slo-mo - the ones of Chelsie when they were doing for her intro - that gold dress was fabulous and I (and lots others I bet) want more from that particular segment.

I'm still waiting for some of the DWTS people to show up on SYTYCD! Keeps the cycle going.

(Oy, these acronyms!!) :D:D


Then they would have to change it to SYTYCDEIYAAWCP:
So You Think You Can Dance Even If You Are A World Class Professsional
OUCH:D

Edyta was a bit over-dressed this week, hopefully she'll go back her almost-naked look soon. :D

^^^ Yeah it better be soon because I think LT won't last long. So we'll probably lose Edyta fairly early this season.

..., I was using VLC media player to take screen shots, ...

Since VLC is multi-platform, I'm not sure what platform you're running on. But if you're on Linux, then in my experience SMplayer is the easiest to get screenshots in, since it can frame-step unlike VLC. At least unlike my version of VLC. But I'm a couple revs behind so perhaps they've added it to newer versions. Also it's easier to skip backward and foward in SMplayer.

SMplayer does have a quirk of taking a snapshot of the next frame instead of the currently displayed frame and then advancing one frame. But that beats the half second delay you're seeing with VLC.

Oh and SMplayer only saves in png format. But converting to jpg is trivial so that's not a big issue.

The main ballroom cameras were very good but there were times when the image of Tom Bergeron or the judges looked a bit flat or hazy.There is "smoke" used for lighting effects which can cause a hazy look on some shots.

What's really nice is to see now three alums of SYTYCD on this show with Chelsie and Dmitri joining Lacy. They should feel right at home in that studio.

I'll trade my motion blocking for anybody's haze.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5003/blocking.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blocking.jpg)

I'm betting this is the shot of Chelsie that people were begging for. ;)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7496/chelsie.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chelsie.jpg)

Well any more of Chelsie in that segment would be appreciated! :D:D

Glad you posted that brilliant screenshot of Chelsie, Mac-reminds me of Juliet Prowse in her heyday.

If I tried to kick that high, I would dislocate my right leg.;)

Glad you posted that brilliant screenshot of Chelsie, Mac-reminds me of Juliet Prowse in her heyday.

If I tried to kick that high, I would dislocate my right leg.;)

She's drop dead gorgeous!

Medical update:

From Entertainment Tonight via MJ's Big Blog: Steve Wozniak was spotted wearing a cast on his left leg, probably due to a foot fracture, BUT still plans to dance on the show.

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/03/71727/

I'm betting this is the shot of Chelsie that people were begging for. ;)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7496/chelsie.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chelsie.jpg)

thanks !!!! :eek: :D :cool:

Well any more of Chelsie in that segment would be appreciated! :D:D

Almost every other frame in that sequence had too much motion blocking to look good as a still. I was lucky to find one frame where the blocking was minimal enough to be worth the effort.

Glad you posted that brilliant screenshot of Chelsie, Mac-reminds me of Juliet Prowse in her heyday.

If I tried to kick that high, I would dislocate my right leg.;)

I'd need hip replacement surgery after trying that.

Oh, and speaking of dislocated joints...

One the entertainment news shows said that Gilles dislocated his shoulder, but is going to keep dancing.

Looks like we are well on the way to setting an unbeatable record for the most injuries in a season.

My afffiliate ran an encore of the first show last night. They fixed all the motion blocking and audio dropouts and I had sound from the mains, but no surrounds. And the audio mix was still strange. But it was a thousand times better than the original broadcast.

So here's some clips:

Tony: I'm a multiple America Rhythm champion, but I haven't been able to win that damn mirror ball. But this might be my season...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5753/tonyfzu.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tonyfzu.jpg)

Remember those "Got Milk?" commercials; I'm calling this one "Got Balls?" I'm not sure what's it's selling, but whatever it is I'm buying.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9808/gotballs.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gotballs.jpg)

While we're on Denise, I thought I'd mention her freakishly long arms. Notice how high above her head her elbow is even thought the camera angle makes it look less. Of course, this is actually a good thing for a dancer, if shhe can just figure out how to use them.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1789/denisearms.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=denisearms.jpg)

In addition to setting a unbeatable record for injuries, I think this season will set an unbeatable record for "average rack size".

From the smallest, which is still looks like a good solid 'c' to me.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/82/shawnz.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shawnz.jpg)

Max: I thought I was going to have a rack advantage this season, but I suddenly ended up with the second smallest partner.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5524/secondsmallest.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=secondsmallest.jpg)

Then there's Kim and Holly. I think these have there own separate zip codes.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8193/kimm.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kimm.jpg)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2024/hollyswimsuit.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hollyswimsuit.jpg)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8530/hollychacha.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hollychacha.jpg)

Belinda was interviewed a few days ago on KTTV's Good Day L.A., in the wake of her opening-night waltz:

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/good_day_la/Dancing_With_Belinda_Carlisle_20090313

When the hosts brought up this season's rash of injuries, Belinda quipped: "I fell in the parking lot yesterday.":D

Holly made a comment during training that reminded me of the infamous Barbi doll "Math is hard" flap.

So here's a montage to "Dancing is hard!"

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2712/dancingishard1.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dancingishard1.jpg)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4966/dancingishard2.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dancingishard2.jpg)

BTW, based on that photo of Holly I think she must have gotten an enlarrgement after the swimsuit photo was taken.

Notice that Belinda is well into the 'd' range and so is Melissa in the previous post.

I guess Jewel and Nancy just didn't measure up to the standard for this season!

Belinda was interviewed a few days ago on KTTV's Good Day L.A., in the wake of her opening-night waltz:

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/good_day_la/Dancing_With_Belinda_Carlisle_20090313

When the hosts brought up this season's rash of injuries, Belinda quipped: "I fell in the parking lot yesterday.":D

Still dizzy from the spins? :D

Still dizzy from the spins? :D
She just might have been...;)

Hopefully, she will have a clear head tomorrow when she does a salsa-I'll be ecstatic if she nails it.:)

Tom delivered what might have been the season's best line tonight:

"We'll be back with more sizzle and sausage-hopefully, no more paramedics.":D

AND: Later in the show, he asked Jewel, again in the audience tonight, if she had a second crutch, "just in case."

Here are the scores and a quick comment by me:

Gilles and Cheryl: 51 = Does he have the fan support to carry him through?
Melissa and Tony: 49 = Again, not familiar with Bachelor show but he must be a loser.
Shawn and Mark: 47 = Telling a 17 year old to get raunchy. Class.
Lil Kim and Derek: 44 = She looked plastic.
Chuck and Julianne: 40 = Ugh, he's ruining her for me.
Denise and Maksim: 39 = Meh
Holly and Dmitry: 36 = She needs to bring her friends to practice and the live show.
David and Kym: 36 = (see judges comments below)
Lawrence and Edyta: 36 = Poor Lawrence. Poor poor Edyta.
Belinda and Jonathan: 35 = She reminds me of a bloated Priscilla Presley
Ty and Chelsie: 34 = Come on Ty (I don't know him but I want more of her)
Steve-O and Lacey: 31 = LOL. Best I've seen Lacey look in two years.
Steve and Karina: 30 = I wish he'd adopt me.

Judges: 0 = This was the first time I was ever really bothered by the judges. David Allen Greir (a comedian) poked fun at Bruno and all the judges seem to overract with their backlash. Get over yourselves. You sit behind the desk and make belittling comments for all these years and one contestant has some fun at your expense and you pout. What a joke.

Lil Kim and Derek: 44 = She looked plastic.


You're more correct than you even realize.

IMHO, Gilles is the best male celeb they've ever had on the show. He looks as good in week 2 as Mario and Helio looked in the finals. I'm not sure if he has the fan base to pull off a win. At least he did a lot better in the exit interview this week, last week's interview was really painful.

Lacey sure is buff this season, actually showing definition in her abs. And Julianne too, looks like she took off the extra couple of pounds that she put on during the music tour.

I'm going to have to take a whack at Dmitry today. I think he really blew it this week by trying to do a finals level routine in week 2. Holly actually did really well when they were standing in place. Her sync was better than everyone else's IMO, but Dmitry overwhelmed her with the speed of the movement. I'd bet that if Holly had danced the same routine as Denise, she would have scored some solid 8's. Hopefully Dmitry will reel it back a little bit. It took a Derek a long time to back off too.

The best last night: Gilles and Melissa, but Shawn and Ty were not far behind.

I may sound a bit cynical, but I thought Denise's quick step was a bit overrated, primarily because she danced to a song ("We Go Together," from Grease) that IMO is more suited for jive or jitterbug than quick step.

Prediction: Woz and Steve-O (if he is healthy) in the dance-off.

So everyone is still watching this show, huh? I tuned into one of my tivo recordings of a recent episode and Julianne was working with her partner who was complaining about how hard and effeminate it felt doing the dance moves. I couldn't bare to continue watching. Just felt tiresome. And this was with the sublime Julianne on the screen!! :eek: They've ground this show concept into the ground for me with too many seasons too soon.

Maybe I'll try again and catch up in a month or two.. the Tivo is still auto recording at least some of this latest season as long as there aren't higher priority recordings on my "season pass" list.

Gilles, Melissa and Shawn...that's the order and it's pretty obvious. Shawn's uber competitive, but too young and stumpy to overcome the grace of the top two. Might as well mail it in from here.

I tuned into one of my tivo recordings of a recent episode and Julianne was working with her partner who was complaining about how hard and effeminate it felt doing the dance moves. I couldn't bare to continue watching..And she's sleeping with this guy too. :confused:

Lacey sure is buff this season, actually showing definition in her abs.

She started growing on me last season, and now oooh I like more!! Mac, Mloot screencaps? :D:o

OK, late enough to talk about the results...

The dance-off came between Steve/Karina and Belinda/Jonathan. Steve decided to redo his quickstep and Belinda her salsa. Belinda actually lost points because her routine scored lower (17) than her original performance (18). Steve wound up with the same number (17) as before.

And the celebrity joining the 'first to go' club... Belinda.

Steve-O, who suffered an injury on Monday was there. Didn't break anything and said he would back off on any more of the stupid stunts.

My guess, Steve Woz goes out next week.

Sorry if you guys discussed this before, I am new to this dancing show.

Why does that female judge always hand someone a piece of paper after the performance? What is that about?

Sorry if you guys discussed this before, I am new to this dancing show.

Why does that female judge always hand someone a piece of paper after the performance? What is that about?

Autographs

Why does that female judge always hand someone a piece of paper after the performance? What is that about?

I believe it has the scores on it for the producers/whoever. Either that or Carrie Ann is still in grade school and just can't stop passing notes to her BFF. ;)

Sorry if you guys discussed this before, I am new to this dancing show.

Why does that female judge always hand someone a piece of paper after the performance? What is that about?

It's the scores that all three judges have given for a performance. The setup is that the runner always gets the scores from Carrie Ann. That runner takes them back so they can be entered into the computer for the on-screen display. That's why there's always that lag (judges commentary, time for the contestants to walk back to the red room, the banter with Samantha) between the dance and the score reveal - allows time for the scores to be entered.

Also, anyone notice that...
1) Bruno held his score paddle up backward (oops! :D)
2) they went back to the old paddles instead of the glittery ones used during the first two shows.

There were several folks (Woz, Steve-O, Chuck, Holly, etc.) who after the first two performance shows were at or near the bottom of the barrel.

Yet, the first star to go this cycle is...BELINDA?!? :confused::o:( Not that I thought she was a lock to win this thing, but I thought she showed enough style and grace to warrant sticking around until at least the midpoint of the season. (And, I have been a fan of hers since my high school days.) The folks who posted on the home page of Belinda's support group on Facebook seemed to agree with me that Woz should have gone before her.

I think Shawn and Gilles are my early favorites to win, but after Melissa aced her salsa on Monday, I would watch out for her also.

And she's sleeping with this guy too. :confused:

surely you jest.

of all the partners...

:confused:

There were several folks (Woz, Steve-O, Chuck, Holly, etc.) who after the first two performance shows were at or near the bottom of the barrel.

Yet, the first star to go this cycle is...BELINDA?!? :confused::o:( Not that I thought she was a lock to win this thing, but I thought she showed enough style and grace to warrant sticking around until at least the midpoint of the season. (And, I have been a fan of hers since my high school days.) The folks who posted on the home page of Belinda's support group on Facebook seemed to agree with me that Woz should have gone before her.

I think Shawn and Gilles are my early favorites to win, but after Melissa aced her salsa on Monday, I would watch out for her also.

If you look at dialidol as an example the WOZ is pretty high in fan base,
Denise is very low. I suspect he will survive a few more weeks.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some geeks out there who have figured out how to auto program votes for WOZ.

The folks who posted on the home page of Belinda's support group on Facebook seemed to agree with me that Woz should have gone before her.


That's pretty shocking! :eek: :p

surely you jest.

of all the partners...

:confused:
No, they are a real couple. I think they should not allow actual couples to compete as a team, it’s not fair but hey, since when did that matter on this show.

This Wozniak dude is out of control. He reminds me of the crazy quiet uncle who decided overnight to burst out of the closet with Aunties clothes on. Not that there’s …yadda yadda... but do we have to continue to watch him prancing around in our living rooms? He looked like Jerry Lewis on twinkies.

It's the scores that all three judges have given for a performance. The setup is that the runner always gets the scores from Carrie Ann. That runner takes them back so they can be entered into the computer for the on-screen display. That's why there's always that lag (judges commentary, time for the contestants to walk back to the red room, the banter with Samantha) between the dance and the score reveal - allows time for the scores to be entered.

Also, anyone notice that...
1) Bruno held his score paddle up backward (oops! :D)
2) they went back to the old paddles instead of the glittery ones used during the first two shows.

Thanks.

There were several folks (Woz, Steve-O, Chuck, Holly, etc.) who after the first two performance shows were at or near the bottom of the barrel.

Yet, the first star to go this cycle is...BELINDA?!? :confused::o:( Not that I thought she was a lock to win this thing, ....

Me too. I thought that with her middle of the pack score from the judges that she'd have enough fan support to be safe this week.

I thought it would be one of the two Steves leaving. I sure blew that call.


BTW, last night is my new favorite results results show. Voodoo Daddy was entertaining, Jewel was in really good voice (even better than her Soundstage performance IMHO) and Chelsie and Dmitry's dance worked really well. And I finally actually enjoyed one of the Macy's performances for a change.

Gilles, Melissa and Shawn...that's the order and it's pretty obvious. Shawn's uber competitive, but too young and stumpy to overcome the grace of the top two. Might as well mail it in from here.


That pretty much sums up my take on it too. Although I think there's still a chance that either Holly or Denise might have an epiphany and shake things up. Kim is pretty decent too, but I don't think she has the fan support to break into the top three.

There were several folks (Woz, Steve-O, Chuck, Holly, etc.) who after the first two performance shows were at or near the bottom of the barrel.

Yet, the first star to go this cycle is...BELINDA?!? :confused::o:( Not that I thought she was a lock to win this thing, but I thought she showed enough style and grace to warrant sticking around until at least the midpoint of the season. (And, I have been a fan of hers since my high school days.) The folks who posted on the home page of Belinda's support group on Facebook seemed to agree with me that Woz should have gone before her.

I think Shawn and Gilles are my early favorites to win, but after Melissa aced her salsa on Monday, I would watch out for her also.


Good to know that your impressions of DWTS' contestants is as awful as your American Idol impressions. :) Belinda, as others have said, looked like a fatter version of Presley, who couldn't dance to save her life. But then again she couldn't dance when she was a GO-GO either. So not much changed. Her snooty attitude didn't help her with the voting public either, I bet. Good riddance to her. At least Wozniak is fun.

Lacey is hot! Let's see some more screen caps of her.

That pretty much sums up my take on it too. Although I think there's still a chance that either Holly or Denise might have an epiphany and shake things up. Kim is pretty decent too, but I don't think she has the fan support to break into the top three.I may have to change my prediction. I don't follow reality TV and knew nothing about Melissa. That's all anyone is talking about on the DWTS site...evidently she's got a very active reality fanbase. Almost nothing is mentioned about Gilles. I figured he would carry the female vote, but it sure doesn't look like it now.

Homage to abs:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/495/laeyripped.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laeyripped.jpg)

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http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8926/julianneabs.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julianneabs.jpg)


BTW: Those thigh-highs and miniskirt really worked for me.

Julianne almost dropped her pants. She actually had to reach down and pull them up in the middle of a move.

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I'm sure lots of us noticed Julianne's almost wardrobe malfunction and her trying to pull up her pants. Lacey's black skirt and thigh highs were workin' for me too. Thanks for the screencaps Mac. You came through again.

Lacey is hot! Let's see some more screen caps of her.

Agreed. Last season she seemed a bit doughy, but now she's hot as helllllll. Kinda wish she had a better partner so she'd go further.

Warning...

This coming Tuesday's results show may be preempted or moved as President Obama will be doing either a speech or press conference during prime time (9:00 PM Eastern on several networks).

I think this number deserved some screen caps.

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Gratuatous cleavage shot:

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BTW, I really liked the costume. But the hair! Yikes, the hairdresser sure didn't do Melissa any favors last week.

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I've always given Kym Johnson my full support... but this year, Chelsie and Lacey are making strong cases!

I still think some how Shawn wins. She'll be good enough and I figure she carries a lot of vote. But the Melissa phenomenon could be bigger because of her quick turn around and story from another ABC show.

I've always given Kym Johnson my full support... but this year, Chelsie and Lacey are making strong cases!

I still think some how Shawn wins. She'll be good enough and I figure she carries a lot of vote. But the Melissa phenomenon could be bigger because of her quick turn around and story from another ABC show.

Well that and because Melissa is a gorgeous woman who looks great when she's dancing, whereas Shawn resembles a dancing oompa loompa.

..., whereas Shawn resembles a dancing oompa loompa.

While that't true now, I'll bet Shawn loses a lot a weight in a few weeks. She already looked a little lighter to me after just one week.

I finally actually liked one of the Macy's routines so I guess I should post a couple caps of it:

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http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1156/macys2.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=macys2.jpg)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3058/macys3.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=macys3.jpg)

And I really liked Cam's skit too. I'd say that the results show was just about...

Perfect! :D

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(Crying in the confession booth was my favorite part of the skit, but it there's not any good stills from that)

While that't true now, I'll bet Shawn loses a lot a weight in a few weeks. She already looked a little lighter to me after just one week.

Oh, I don't think she's fat at all. She's just very round and very short. I don't think there's much she can do about that. She'll never look as graceful or sexy as someone like the Bachelor woman. Doesn't mean she won't dance well though. It's just that if she dances well and the tall girls dances well, the tall girl is going to win.

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/reality-shows-pay-with-resuscitated-careers--195

"Not so long ago, reality TV was the last place any self-respecting celebrity would wish to end up.



Now, though, the famous -- and almost-famous -- are lining round the block to get on the most popular shows, like "Dancing With the Stars" or "Celebrity Apprentice." And it isn't for the money.



Stars on a multi-character scripted drama can make upwards of $50,000 an episode – sometimes way upward. On reality shows, celebrities get what is referred to as Most Favored Nation status -- which means nobody gets more than anybody else. The celebs on "Dancing With the Stars," for example, get $200,000 for the entire season, [See celebrity reality TV payments on The Wrap] whether they're booted or not, a bonus of $100,00 if they're number one, a smaller bonus if they're number two, an even smaller bonus if they're number 3, a top TV agent told The Wrap."

Just saw the first episode(s) of DWTS in the UK this weekend, on the basic cable GOLD channel. Because we have fewer adverts there are lots of stings to mask the breaks I think! (Love the fact that the voice over is from Alan Dedicoat - who does the UK version and the UK Lottery show - amongst many others!)

There was a very nice little "in" bit of it.

The professionals dance number - where all the male and femal pros do a group dance - was to the track "The Boy Does Nothing" (Does He Wash Up). This was a hit in the UK for Alesha Dixon, who was the winner of the UK version of Strictly Come Dancing (which DWTS was created from) - season 5 (2007).

She's performed it on the UK Strictly show - so I guess the British production team working on the US show (which is a BBC Production for ABC) are familiar with it as a track?

Medical update: Steve-O and Woz are questionable for tomorrow:

http://www.examiner.com/x-2458-Dancing-with-the-Stars-Examiner~y2009m3d21-Dancing-with-the-Stars-deja-vu-injuries-still-plague-Wozniak-and-SteveO

And, after checking out the guest roster for Tuesday's results show, some of you may want to set your DVR's:

http://www.examiner.com/x-2458-Dancing-with-the-Stars-Examiner~y2009m3d21-Cloris-Leachman-returns-this-week-to-Dancing-with-the-Stars-results-show

And, after checking out the guest roster for Tuesday's results show, some of you may want to set your DVR's:

http://www.examiner.com/x-2458-Dancing-with-the-Stars-Examiner~y2009m3d21-Cloris-Leachman-returns-this-week-to-Dancing-with-the-Stars-results-show

:eek: Please, make it stop. Can't someone get a restraining order to keep her off the set? Pretty please?

Or maybe put her under house arrest...:D

Maybe a safer show for ABC would be Jackass Stunts by the Stars. Each season of DWTS seems to be more injury prone. It does demonstrate the reality of this reality competition. I guess Jobs is in too poor of health to step in for his old comrade the Woz if he displays the spinning color pizza wheel. Maybe they could cross to the dark side and ask Gates. Doesn't he has a lot of time on his hands these days? OTH I suppose there could be a good chance he could crash. If he did would they change the lighting to solid blue?

Maybe a safer show for ABC would be Jackass Stunts by the Stars. Each season of DWTS seems to be more injury prone. It does demonstrate the reality of this reality competition. I guess Jobs is in too poor of health to step in for his old comrade the Woz if he displays the spinning color pizza wheel. Maybe they could cross to the dark side and ask Gates. Doesn't he has a lot of time on his hands these days? OTH I suppose there could be a good chance he could crash. If he did would they change the lighting to solid blue?

The US version seems to have more injuries than the UK one - though we've had a few people retire for health reasons (heart problems in one case), and Kelly Brook retired because of the death of her father. (We've had a couple of celebs miss a week here and there, or perform with heavy ankle strapping)

If you want to see a show that really puts the stars in physical jeopardy, the ITV rival to SCD/DWTS is "Dancing on Ice" - which is basically "Dancing with the Stars... On Ice". Loads of bruises, the odd bone fracture. The ice dances are quite spectacular for amateurs.

Is there a US version of this yet? It's just finished its 4th season in the UK, and like SCD/DWTS the format has sold internationally where like SCD/DWTS it has been a hit in many countries.

Maybe a safer show for ABC would be Jackass Stunts by the Stars. Each season of DWTS seems to be more injury prone. It does demonstrate the reality of this reality competition. I guess Jobs is in too poor of health to step in for his old comrade the Woz if he displays the spinning color pizza wheel. Maybe they could cross to the dark side and ask Gates. Doesn't he has a lot of time on his hands these days? OTH I suppose there could be a good chance he could crash. If he did would they change the lighting to solid blue?

How about getting the guy in the Apple commercials (the young one, forget his name) to replace Woz. Or, better yet, MISTER PC! :)

If you want to see a show that really puts the stars in physical jeopardy, the ITV rival to SCD/DWTS is "Dancing on Ice" - which is basically "Dancing with the Stars... On Ice". Loads of bruises, the odd bone fracture. The ice dances are quite spectacular for amateurs.

Is there a US version of this yet? It's just finished its 4th season in the UK, and like SCD/DWTS the format has sold internationally where like SCD/DWTS it has been a hit in many countries.

Yes. It was called "Skating with Celebrities" or something, and it bombed. But it wasn't a total loss for the participants: Buffy found a hubby. ;)

Yes. It was called "Skating with Celebrities" or something, and it bombed. But it wasn't a total loss for the participants: Buffy found a hubby. ;)

She divorced one and married a new one, so is that a net push rather than a gain? ;)


IIRC, in it's one season, Bruce Jenner and Buffy both were seriously injured (one of them split their head open) and there were a couple of other injuries (sprained ankles and such). Definately more dangerous than DWTS.

BTW, Lisa Renna is doing a layout for Playboy. I guess she did one about 11 years aago too.

Denise Richards: Looks constipated while dancing
Chuck Wicks: Ugh, reason 163 why I don’t like country music
Holly Madison: thrown under the bus by Dmitry
Steve-O: awkwardly stiff
LT: improved
Shawn Johnson: Oompa loompa? Pfft. She was great.
Gilles Marini: Cheryl is back
David Alan Grier: Solid
Woz: is a 10 the lowest score ever given? Master P didn’t sink that low
Melissa Rycroft: Read the pros think she has an advantage. Who cares
Lil’ Kim: She scares me for some reason. Couldn’t have a better partner
Ty Murray: Ty f’n Murray, who saw this coming

Couple of side notes. Didn’t realize Carry An was a Fly Girl on In Living Color. Chelsie falling down was a first for a pro… right? I can’t decide which pro I’d want as a partner in this competition.

Didn’t realize Carry An was a Fly Girl on In Living Color.and Fook Yu!

and Fook Yu!

My teenager just watched Goldmember the other day. I wouldn't have guessed but you are absolutely correct. Here's a shot of her and her sister "Fook Mi."

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm689149952/nm0594601

.... Chelsie falling down was a first for a pro… right? I can’t decide which pro I’d want as a partner in this competition.

The closest I can think of was when Julianne basically fell to the floor rather than sliding down Helio's leg like she was supposed to do. She landed so hard she bounced back up a few inches. But, I think I'm forgetting a couple of stumbles and near falls.

As far as a partner... If forced to make a choice, I'd probably go with Edyta. Those outfits she wears during rehearsals would make the rehearsal grind a lot easier to take. :D

I thought Lil Kim was flashing some serious pit hair in her routine last night. This morning on "The View" they had a close up, and sure enough she had more growth than most of the male dancers.

Kind of strange, considering that most of her looks to be surgically enhanced to look as much like Michael Jackson as possible.

Might be a new fashion trend for the gals.

I thought Lil Kim was flashing some serious pit hair in her routine last night. This morning on "The View" they had a close up, and sure enough she had more growth than most of the male dancers.

Kind of strange, considering that most of her looks to be surgically enhanced to look as much like Michael Jackson as possible.

Might be a new fashion trend for the gals.

Lil Kim is hard to look at. Her face doesn't move at all. Same issue with Priscilla Presely. What a shame these idiots do that to their bodies. Makes them look like freaks.

Kelly Brook retired because of the death of her father.
Kelly Brook dancing? Now there's an act I'd pay money to see...

My top three-Gilles, Shawn and Melissa, in that order-again brought their A game last night...but Lil' Kim established herself as a dark horse with that hot samba.

Prediction: Steve-O (who apparently was still in pain) and Woz in the dance-off.

My top three-Gilles, Shawn and Melissa, in that order-again brought their A game last night...but Lil' Kim established herself as a dark horse with that hot samba.

Prediction: Steve-O (who apparently was still in pain) and Woz in the dance-off.

West coast airing over and BZZZZ - you were wrong on both counts.

Surprise 1 - Steve and Karina - SAFE! :eek: got the lowest judges score but must have placed either first or second on viewer vote.

Surprise 2 - very funny how they handled Cloris and Corky as they demonstrated the new dances for next week - Lindy hop and Argentinean tango.

Surprise 3 - Steve-O and Lacey - SAFE! :eek: again

The bottom two - Holly/Dimitry and Denise/Maks. Dance off and both improved their scores. Holly got 18 (vs. 17) and Denise got 20 (vs. 16).

However for Denise, not good enough, she and Maks are done and headed off for shoe burning on Jimmy Kimmel Live.

West coast airing over and BZZZZ - you were wrong on both counts.

Surprise 1 - Steve and Karina - SAFE! :eek: got the lowest judges score but must have placed either first or second on viewer vote.



I could see the judges retaliating next week with 2s and 1s.

As far as a partner... If forced to make a choice, I'd probably go with Edyta. Those outfits she wears during rehearsals would make the rehearsal grind a lot easier to take. :D

Not a bad thought process. I have this thing for Kym but I don't think I'd like being her partner. I think I've narrowed it down to Lacey or Cheryl. And Stacy Kiebler if I were the pro.

Surprise 2 - very funny how they handled Cloris and Corky as they demonstrated the new dances for next week - Lindy hop and Argentinean tango.


I was scared when I heard Cloris was taking part in the show. But, I must admit, it was a well-produced skit with the two of them.

You guys realize Holly will go next and we'll get another week of Woz.

Here are a few screen shots from this week's performance show:

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Kelly Brook dancing? Now there's an act I'd pay money to see...

She returned for the Christmas special and did very well.

Excuse me, but Kelly Brook... Who? Pics if available...

Carrie Anne made an interesting comment on Monday about what Gilles has brought out in Cheryl. Whatever that is (hmm, model handsome and studly maybe), Cheryl is really smokin hot again and looks much more like she did in seasons 1 and 2. That is definitely all good. She may not be classically beautiful but, damn, there is something about the woman! Looking at the pics posted above confirms what I've seen on the broadcasts. Chelsie is having the time of her life doing this show and the last two weeks has done some very good work with Ty. Their recovery from her slip on Monday wouldn't have happened three weeks ago. From the opening of the routine you could sense that Ty was starting to "get it". His opening pose in the top hat and tails looked great and then he danced very well. Of course it helps that Chelsie looks the way that she does:D

Excuse me, but Kelly Brook... Who? Pics if available...Google is your friend.
She's a Brit actress and was married to Billy Zane.
Also, be warned...Kelly Brook has a nice rack but a rather large ass (think Chloe Kardasian (sp?), Jennifer Lopez and Beyonce ;-).

20 million people watching (again).

I guess they can start planning for season 9 this coming September...

Curious about those who suffered injuries and had to leave...

Will any of them come back to try again? Are they allowed to?

I could see the judges retaliating next week with 2s and 1s.

When they announced that Woz was safe, they showed a shot that included the judges and Len leaned over to Carrie Ann and whispered something.

According to my admittedly pathetic lip-reading skills he said, "We have to do something." Did anyone else get a better reading? And where's Marlee Matlin when you need her?

Actually there was a lot of whispering going on last night. Edyta whispered something to Alec at the end of their routine and Maks whispered something to Denise after they were eliminated. I didn't get a read on Edyta and Maks' mouth was hidden so I couldn't get a read on him.

Curious about those who suffered injuries and had to leave...

Will any of them come back to try again? Are they allowed to?

I can't recall hearing anything formal, but when Misty left last season it sounded like she might be allowed to return. I heard some similar comments when Nancy and Jewel left.

I'm not sure how far they could take it. Seems like the four(?) weeks that Misty had would be about the cutoff point. After that it would seem a bit unfair.

Maybe they'll actually start keeping an "injured reserve" list. ;)
Then the injured people would have a chance to jump in at the last minute when someone else goes down.

West coast airing over and BZZZZ - you were wrong on both counts.

Surprise 1 - Steve and Karina - SAFE! :eek: got the lowest judges score but must have placed either first or second on viewer vote.

Surprise 2 - very funny how they handled Cloris and Corky as they demonstrated the new dances for next week - Lindy hop and Argentinean tango.

Surprise 3 - Steve-O and Lacey - SAFE! :eek: again

The bottom two - Holly/Dimitry and Denise/Maks. Dance off and both improved their scores. Holly got 18 (vs. 17) and Denise got 20 (vs. 16).

However for Denise, not good enough, she and Maks are done and headed off for shoe burning on Jimmy Kimmel Live.
Truly, last night's show was full of surprises. Given how bad Steve-O and Woz fared on Monday, I would think they both got a bazillion viewer votes each. I wonder what it is about them that captivates viewers...:rolleyes:

As for Denise, her exit was just as surprising; her samba last night was truly first-class. I guess viewers were too focused on Holly's attributes...;)

According to my admittedly pathetic lip-reading skills he said, "We have to do something." Did anyone else get a better reading?


So YOU'RE the reason why networks now blur the mouth when someone curses. :D

A lot of people are confused about the dance-off. There are those who think that all the scoring/voting is bypassed and the judges scores from the dance-off determine who stays and who goes (and I wish it was that way). From this past week, that would have meant Denise (20) should have stayed and Holly (18) eliminated.

Instead the new judges scores replace the old ones and then the combined score is recalculated and the celebrity still with the lowest combined score is eliminated.

I think they did it that way (using combined judges and audience tallies) because they wanted to avoid issues should the celebrities have matching scores in the dance-off and wanted to keep the audience score as part of the overall score (keep the audience involved throughout).

With a double elimination this week, there probably won't be a dance-off, and then they probably go back to the old way of doing things (bottom two, lowest combined score eliminated).

In case anyone hadn't heard about this.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=7182915&page=1

In case anyone hadn't heard about this.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=7182915&page=1
:eek::eek::eek:

There's going to be extra protection around the set for the rest of season, not just for Shawn's benefit.

Medical update, from usmagazine.com:

Holly experienced pain in her chest during rehearsal, yet expects to tango on Monday:

http://64.90.166.18/news/idwtsi-holly-madison-injured-but-expected-return-monday-2009263

For those of you who’ve always wondered about how much they make, here is an article with a TMZ link to Shawn’s contract.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/03/27/2009-03-27_contract_reveals_dancing_with_the_stars_-1.html

Contract reveals 'Dancing with the Stars' is paying Shawn Johnson big bucks

BY ELOISE PARKER
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Friday, March 27th 2009, 5:43 PM

Will the promise of a mountain of cash be enough incentive for Shawn Johnson to put her stalker fears behind her, slap on another layer of fake tan and push on to the next round on “Dancing with the Stars"?

The gold medal-winning gymnast is guaranteed a six-figure paycheck for risking life and limb on “Dancing with the Stars," but could double her money if she makes it to the grand final, according to a contract unearthed by www.TMZ.com.

The tiny athlete, who had a major security scare earlier this week when an alleged stalker was arrested on the set of the hit ABC show, has already earned $125,000 just for appearing on the show, according to the paperwork.

The document was made public after being filed with the L.A. County Superior Court. A judge was required to approve the deal because 17-year-old Johnson is still a minor. In addition to her $125,000 appearance fee, Johnson is set to receive $10,000 a week for her third and fourth weeks in the show, $20,000 if she makes it to week five and an additional $30,000 per week through weeks eight and nine.

Her deal tops out at $50,000 per week for weeks 10 and 11 and a whopping $365,000 if she becomes one of the final two contestants.

Used to clocking up endless hours of grueling gymnastics training, Johnson will likely breeze through the compulsory 20 hours of dance training per week.

However, should she get struck down by an injury on the accident-prone show, her contract makes it clear that that DWTS has no liability.

According to TMZ, the contract reads, "Artist releases Producer, Network ... from any and all claims ... arising from physical or other injury resulting from Artist's appearance in the Series."

Shawn should ask to replace Mark Ballas with Maks. He looks like he could protect her a little more effectively.

Google is your friend.
She's a Brit actress and was married to Billy Zane.


She didn't marry Billy Zane - though they were engaged. She is now (or was) dating a (pretty young) England Rugby player.

Weekly BUMP to move this to page 1 (for tonight's show).

We had tornado warnings last night. Our ABC affiliate can't run a weather bug over the HD feed. Terrible. Second week in a row. To make matters worse, the weather guy cut in during the middle of Steve-O's dance and I missed the last two.

I dont' vote but if I did, I'd toss a vote Ty's way. He seems to get what the show is about.

Gilles and Cheryl: 30
Melissa and Tony: 29
Lil Kim and Derek: 27
Shawn and Mark: 25
Ty and Chelsie: 25
Chuck and Julianne: 22
David and Kym: 22
Lawrence and Edyta: 19
Holly and Dmitry: 16
Steve-O and Lacey: 15
Steve and Karina: 12

Gilles and Cheryl's tango was INCREDIBLE. I watch both DWTS and SYTYCD, and every once and a while the shows will have one routine that blows my mind. Last night's tango was one of them.

Gilles and Cheryl's tango was INCREDIBLE. I watch both DWTS and SYTYCD, and every once and a while the shows will have one routine that blows my mind. Last night's tango was one of them.

Their dance bored me to tears. Tony and Melissa's was far more entertaining. Hell, I thought Lil Kim's dance was more entertaining as well.

Speculation for DWTS from the ratings threads has Woz and Steve-O to be gone. Sorry, the geek vote is too strong for now - Woz will probably be safe.

My prediction for the bottom three tonight - Steve-O, Holly, LT, with Steve-O and Holly gone and forgotten.

Their dance bored me to tears. Tony and Melissa's was far more entertaining. Hell, I thought Lil Kim's dance was more entertaining as well.

You didn't get it, did you? I thought Gilles and Cheryl pulled it off stunningly. It's a combination of dance and acting for the Argentine tango, and they clearly "got" it. They deserved the perfect 30...

You didn't get it, did you? I thought Gilles and Cheryl pulled it off stunningly. It's a combination of dance and acting for the Argentine tango, and they clearly "got" it. They deserved the perfect 30...

It's a reality show starring a bunch of almost no-name stars dancing. What I get is that they should entertain me. The Gilles dance bored the living **** outa me. That's what I get. I'm no dance expert though....but I do engage in a lot of pantsoff danceoff, which I'm thinking they're not going to have a week of for me to judge with my discerning eyes (Kim and Julieanne together please).

The tango that Gilles and Cheryl performed at first underwhelmed me, then as the music picked up I saw how technically brilliant it was. It wasn't as entertaining as some of the Lindy hops, but it was the best dancing of the evening. I don't know what background this guy has, but there is obviously some dance in there. He's going to be there at the end, but so are Melissa and Shawn. Then it's a tossup based on popularity. I think they'll all be doing 10s by then. Lil Kim is also a force, but she's going to get dumped by middle american housewife.

True, the dance by Gilles and Cheryl was stunning, but it didn't light the fire for me the way Ty and Lil' Kim did. I can see that they deserved a 30 or close to it; it doesn't hurt that Gilles is paired with the hottest and best dancer on the show. If you objectively compare what Gilles did last night with what Lil' Kim and Ty did, I don't see how he quite measures up. Remember that Lil' Kim performed the female portion of the Argentine Tango, which clearly involves more complicated footwork, which she handled with flare. At any rate, I think it will come down to those 3 and Melissa, who was sensational once again.

In my view Shawn doesn't quite cut the mustard, her lack of maturity is not serving her well. I hope she proves me wrong.

I am so gay for this show! My wife stayed up and watched it with me last night, so I don't feel like the Lone Ranger today. :rolleyes:

It's a reality show starring a bunch of almost no-name stars dancing. What I get is that they should entertain me. The Gilles dance bored the living **** outa me.That is why they have been adding dance styles which are more entertaining. I just feel if they go too far they will lose the original charm of the show. I watch the season to see how good of a dancer they become week after week... that is the entertainment value for me. As an example Shawn's routine had a ton of tricks and on the surface was far more entertaining than Melissa's but I appreciated (and enjoyed) Melissa's routine more as it was clearly performed at a higher precision (to the dance standard).

Speculation for DWTS from the ratings threads has Woz and Steve-O to be gone. Sorry, the geek vote is too strong for now - Woz will probably be safe.

My prediction for the bottom three tonight - Steve-O, Holly, LT, with Steve-O and Holly gone and forgotten.
My sentiments exactly.

Last night was another one where Steve-O and Holly went into the tank again, and LT looks like he may be starting to go downhill. OTOH, I was again very impressed by my top three: Gilles setting the floor on fire with his tango, and Shawn and Melissa did very lively Lindy hops (although IMO Shawn needs to tone down the gymnastics a little). And, Ty broke out of his shell with his Lindy hop; he just may be a dark horse now.

Joanna Pacitti (disqualified from AI this year after her close ties to its producers were revealed) will make a cameo appearance in L.A. tonight, singing two songs with the band led by her boyfriend Mark Ballas and Derek Hough, Billboard has learned:

http://billboard.blogs.com/jadedinsider/2009/03/idol-worship-joanna-pacitti-performs-with-bhb-tomorrow.html

Carrie Ann offers her thoughts as to why there is a rash of injuries this season:

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/03/carrie-anne-ina.html

That is why they have been adding dance styles which are more entertaining. I just feel if they go too far they will lose the original charm of the show. I watch the season to see how good of a dancer they become week after week... that is the entertainment value for me. As an example Shawn's routine had a ton of tricks and on the surface was far more entertaining than Melissa's but I appreciated (and enjoyed) Melissa's routine more as it was clearly performed at a higher precision (to the dance standard).

I've only begun watching this show two seasons ago, but my wife has watched it from the start. Her immediate reaction to Shawn's dance was "too many tricks". She was also bored by Gilles dance, which doesn't bode well for him if he doesn't add more spice to his dances, because my wife is a pretty good barometer for how things are going to end. What's funny about the show is that now the dancers are almost bigger stars than the stars. I hope they're being compensated better.

Speculation for DWTS from the ratings threads has Woz and Steve-O to be gone. Sorry, the geek vote is too strong for now - Woz will probably be safe.

My prediction for the bottom three tonight - Steve-O, Holly, LT, with Steve-O and Holly gone and forgotten.

Got it partly/mostly right. Woz was NOT saved by the geek vote and landed in the bottom 3 (LT was safe), along with Holly and Steve-O.

And gone are... Holly and Woz.

Next week's dances - Paso Doble and Viennese Waltz.

FYI, Samantha Harris' voice had not returned much, so she was given a reprieve and limited to back room interviews.

And yet that's the best Samantha has sounded in years.

Next weeks' dances should be great.

LT is starting to whine too much about his scores. He is not a very good dancer, although he seems to think he is.

He needs to watch his tone to avoid being perceived by the audience as a spoiled athlete. Oh wait a minute, he is.

And yet that's the best Samantha has sounded in years.


Truer words have never been put to electronic paper:D:D:D:D

it doesn't hurt that Gilles is paired with the hottest and best dancer on the show.
Absolutely! Cheryl has been one of the true backbones of this show since it started. All she needs a decent partner and she's a threat to take the trophy. In Gilles, she has much more than that and you can see her elevating her own game to take advantage of his abilites. What's interesting is that Cheryl has never changed her basic shag hairstyle. It just works for her and she knows it.

Absolutely! Cheryl has been one of the true backbones of this show since it started. All she needs a decent partner and she's a threat to take the trophy. In Gilles, she has much more than that and you can see her elevating her own game to take advantage of his abilites. What's interesting is that Cheryl has never changed her basic shag hairstyle. It just works for her and she knows it.Cheryl seems to be the most competitive of the pros.

It seems that if she smells the possiblity of a victory, she puts in extra effort. I didn't perceive the extra effort last season. In fact, she looked to be a bit out of shape and pudgy for a pro.

This year she is back to form - both physically and in her focus on victory.

No surprise to me that Holly and Woz were sent packing. (Apparently, the iPhone set can only take you so far. ;))

Unless Steve-O gets better in a hurry, he just may be the next to fall.

It should be interesting, as usual, to see the paso doble and Viennese waltz next week. I was wondering earlier today: what are the chances of TPTB adding disco to the repertoire? It would be interesting to see the competitors, especially the younger ones, do some of those funky moves from the Seventies.

stev-o lasted longer than holly....kendra & bridget must be raggin her like crazy !!

Cheryl seems to be the most competitive of the pros.

It seems that if she smells the possiblity of a victory, she puts in extra effort. I didn't perceive the extra effort last season. In fact, she looked to be a bit out of shape and pudgy for a pro.

This year she is back to form - both physically and in her focus on victory.

You're probably right. The choice of the "celebrity" partner has, I'm sure, an impact on the pros even if it is subtle. Karina was genuinely delighted when she and Woz survived last week but I'm willing to be that there is a part of her that is relieved that Woz is gone and she can focus on the purely pro preformances. The worst case was Ashley Delgrosso, a delightful young dancer, getting stuck with Master P. I'm sure that when he was finally bounced, she felt like she had just been pardoned.

No surprise to me that Holly and Woz were sent packing. (Apparently, the iPhone set can only take you so far. ;))

Unless Steve-O gets better in a hurry, he just may be the next to fall.

It should be interesting, as usual, to see the paso doble and Viennese waltz next week. I was wondering earlier today: what are the chances of TPTB adding disco to the repertoire? It would be interesting to see the competitors, especially the younger ones, do some of those funky moves from the Seventies.

I think that disco does not have a place on this program - it's concentrated on ballroom styles. The only time you're going to see any disco is when they can do 'freestyle' in the finals (where anything goes). Unfortunately, it hasn't worked that well. If you remember season 2, Tony Dovalani and Staci Kiebler did a disco number in the finals that was fairly disappointing in its energy level.

Wait for Fox's "So You Think You Can Dance" coming up pretty soon. They do all types of dance (beyond ballroom) and I know for sure that they have disco in the mix (for the top 20 who pull dance styles out of a hat - literally).

I found Gilles dance a little underwelming too. But I think it might have been due to the music. The song they used was the same song that Tony and Elena used for their show dance one year and it was my favorite performance of theirs. Elena had a different hair style and makeup than usual and looked hotter than normal and the dance was an interesting mix of Argentine Tango and Bolero.

I liked Gilles dance a little better on the results show, so I think I got over the comparision.

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Elena's usual hairstyle and makeup (which doesn't do anything for me).
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I found Gilles dance a little underwelming too. But I think it might have been due to the music. The song they used was the same song that Tony and Elena used for their show dance one year and it was my favorite performance of theirs. Elena had a different hair style and makeup than usual and looked hotter than normal and the dance was an interesting mix of Argentine Tango and Bolero.


We've watched Tony and Elena on the Ballroom Competition shows on PBSand they are a sight to behold. As good as Tony is on DWTS, when you see him in the venue that he makes his real living in, it's amazing.

What's funny about the show is that now the dancers are almost bigger stars than the stars. I hope they're being compensated better.Exactly. It's gotten to the point where they should do a spin off with the pros vs. pros. Judge them against each other. Enough of Cloris Leachman, Steve O and all these other non talent and/or third rate non celebs. Granted a couple of them do ok. Brooke Burke was pretty excellent last season and Melissa (who is hotter than Brooke by the way) is going all the way this season.

Melissa was ridiculously cute this week. The hairstylist redeemed themselves after that that horrible look on samba week.

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I think Karina borrowed one of Edyta's two piece outfits this week and looked really good in it. ;)

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Cheryl was looking hot this week too.

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I think this is position 28 in the Kama Sutra (this should only be attempted by advanced students).

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What was funny was the first nationally televised teabagging! :eek: :p Melissa with Tony

From Access Hollywood via msnbc.com:

Shawn credits her gymnastics experience with helping her stay focused on her dancing, in spite of what has happened outside the ballroom (i.e., the stalker episode).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30018928/

Weekly BUMP. New show tonight...

Julianne's other career may be fruitful after all...she won best new artist at last night's Academy of Country Music Awards:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h1NSOO-PLEJwvxQR0K10zaWGlCwgD97CT5MO3

Meanwhile, one Gizmodo reader explains why he thinks Woz was unfairly eliminated (the reader thought David's routine more resembled a Charleston than a Lindy hop):

http://i.gizmodo.com/5199199/was-steve-wozniak-unfairly-eliminated-from-dancing-with-the-stars

Looks like this is the week where we get reduced down to 1.5 hours.

I think this is going to be a really important week for Melissa. She's been getting by on her technical chops up to this point and now it's time to step up the performance.

I think that disco does not have a place on this program - it's concentrated on ballroom styles. The only time you're going to see any disco is when they can do 'freestyle' in the finals (where anything goes). Unfortunately, it hasn't worked that well. If you remember season 2, Tony Dovalani and Staci Kiebler did a disco number in the finals that was fairly disappointing in its energy level.



Frankly, I think the way they play "fast and loose" with these ballroom styles disco fits right in. I've seen it taught in ballroom schools and, while I've never seen it in competition, I don't think this show's standards (if indeed it has any) would preclude that style. If they don't want to do disco let them do Hustle (didn't they do that once?).

What I'd really like to see (which has been a competitive dance) is polka. :) It's the type of dance DWTS thrives on: quick and lively.

Cheryl and Gilles really separated themselves from the pack last night. Their dancing was absolutely stunning! My wife was applauding just as loudly as the studio audience. Len said it was "too hectic". Hot, frenetic, and precise are more apt descriptions. Looks like a third title for Cheryl if this continues.

Lil' Kim, Melissa, and Shawn are very good. At this point I am picking Lil' Kim to come in second this season. It shocks me to say that, I thought she would not perform that well, but somehow she manages to make that freakish body of hers look elegant and sassy all at once.

Rodeo man was very robotic, he looked constipated, which surprised me. Good-bye to him or Steve-O tonight.

Looks like this is the week where we get reduced down to 1.5 hours.

I think this is going to be a really important week for Melissa. She's been getting by on her technical chops up to this point and now it's time to step up the performance.

Or step down the neckline. ;) Good to see the show-time reduced. It's almost to the point where I can afford the time to start watching again.

What's the deal with Lil' Kim? She speaks and acts childlike at times. I take nothing away from her dancing ability, but maybe all that rap'n has affected her in some way.

nc

Or step down the neckline. ;) Good to see the show-time reduced. It's almost to the point where I can afford the time to start watching again.

Coincidentally, the costume maker managed to make Melissa look flat-chested this week. Which, considering her ample endowments is quite a feat.

As I feared, Melissa still hasn't gotten the face and attitude stuff working yet. Gilles, is firing on all cylinders. Melissa and everybody else are going to have a tough time beating him.

I'm going to agree with both Dragonloaf and Len regarding Gilles performance. He definately separated himself from the pack. But, the part following the music change was a little too hectic for my taste. As I've said before, the Paso is my least favorite of the 10 ballroom dances so they can easily lose my interest on relatively minor issues like this.

My favorite dance of the night was actually Lil' Kim. I thought she did the second best job of having the complete package and I prefered the choreography (well... mostly the style) over Gilles' Paso. Although I did really like Gilles' final move. He did a good job of selling the coup de grace.

I thought Chuck improved a lot this week. Although the half-hearted, half-assed kneel at the end looked terrible. It really looks bad when you compare it to Gilles' final move.

Who thinks that Gilles doesn't have a ton of dance background. Maybe not, but this guy makes Kristi look like a talented amateur. Whether you liked the correography or not, he performed a very difficult routine with extreme panache and grace. I'm a fan of L'Kim, Melissa and Shawn, but this guys turns up the heat and is just getting better. The rest will need to step up considerably. The judges will keep the scores close and of course the audience will play the biggest role, but he and Cheryl are clearly, in the seasons I've watched, the best DTSW couple to date.

I too thought that Gilles was sparkling last night; Shawn and Lil' Kim weren't bad either.

And, I wonder if Melissa has peaked; her paso doble was just a shade above mediocre.

Max & Carina - class act to have recognized (bowed to) Etta the way they did :)

nc

Results are now over.

Nice show with Etta James (plus Maks and Karina). I think somewhere, someone would have given a nod to Terry Fator (the "America's Got Talent" winner ventriloquist who imitates singers - his audition was the rendition of "At Last" that brought the house down)

Also nice to see another SYTYCD alum - Benji Schwimmer (Lacey's brother) doing a guest turn. (I got a feeling that DWTS and SYTYCD will be doing some cross promotions soon).

Surprise - Steve-O was NOT in the bottom two! That was reserved for David/Kym and Lawrence/Edyta.

David/Kym actually improved his judge's score in the dance off (24 vs. 22) but LT got the same as before (20).

But David's improvement in overall score wasn't enough to pass LT, so David is out.

Next week - jive and rumba. I think the dance off may be ending soon - the original promos said it would only be used for the first few weeks and we're now past week 5.

FYI, if anybody was looking for David Alan Grier (the latest DWTS castoff) on Kimmel last night and was wondering why Melissa Rycroft was there instead, it was a rerun - Kimmel's show is in reruns this week while they make the changes in the studio to start broadcasting in HD starting next Monday (technically, Tuesday morning 12:05 AM on April 14).

He (and Kym apparently) were scheduled to appear on Good Morning America.

Who thinks that Gilles doesn't have a ton of dance background. Maybe not, but this guy makes Kristi look like a talented amateur. ....

I think we might have finally gotten a couple of clues as why Gilles is so good at dancing.

This week we found out that he's been taking martial arts and he's a soccer player too. So he has experience learning katas from the martial arts which is similar to learning dance steps and he has the fast accurate footwook and the situational awareness from soccer.

Based on his dancing, I'd bet that he's a really good soccer player and martial artist too.

Well i don't care for Gilles myself ;) and i keep threatening my wife that i'm going to switch channels whenever he's onscreen, needless to say she gets very upset with me, lol.

Surprise - Steve-O was NOT in the bottom two! That was reserved for David/Kym and Lawrence/Edyta.
Sometimes I wonder how long the fan votes will keep him in this...though he improved a slight bit this week, he is doing so bad that I am close to taking him off the boards, like I did with Cloris about this time last go-round.

Why even have a bottom 2 when a 4 point judges advantage won't offset the audience vote. That's a 17% delta. I'm not sure what impact that has on the judges vs audience 50/50, but if it's 8.5% added to the judges 50%, then DAG was so far behind, he had no shot. The same thing happened to Denise. She outscored Holly (though in her case it wasn't warranted) and still got sent home.

I guess they commited themselves to this situation, but on the surface it looks worthless, as well as, being somewhat humiliating to the pair that danced obviously better, but got sent home anyway.

Julianne told Fox News backstage at last weekend's ACM Awards that she will take the next season of DWTS off (maybe forever?):

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512977,00.html

it wont happen but i was rooting for a Melissa Rycroft vs Lawrence Taylor Final so it would be like Cowboys vs Giants. :D

I tried getting a couple of action shots from this week's show, but they invariably come out blurrier than still shots.

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David Alan Grier was very bitter toward the judges in an interview with Access Hollywood earlier this week after being booted; he especially had harsh words for Carrie Ann (who, ironically, co-starred with him in In Living Color in Fox's early days):

http://www.examiner.com/x-2458-Dancing-with-the-Stars-Examiner~y2009m4d9-Video-David-Alan-Grier-bitter-about-Dancing-with-the-Stars-boot

Bruno later came to his fellow judge's defense in a separate interview with AH:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30144367/

David Alan Grier = sore loser.:(

Whether he had a previous relationship with Carrie Ann on not, he did get poorer scores from the judges than he deserved. He was probably the 5th best dancer on the show, but had no audience. If this were a skill competition, then he would still be there, but it's a popularity contest and he's just pissed. He's not as popular (which I kind of understand...Steve O :confused:) which is a blow to the ego and he can't strike out at the audience...the judges squeezing him are easy targets.

...and maybe Carrie Anne is holding a bit of a grudge from her flygirl days...ya never know :D.

Whether he had a previous relationship with Carrie Ann on not, he did get poorer scores from the judges than he deserved. He was probably the 5th best dancer on the show, but had no audience. If this were a skill competition, then he would still be there, but it's a popularity contest and he's just pissed. He's not as popular (which I kind of understand...Steve O :confused:) which is a blow to the ego and he can't strike out at the audience...the judges squeezing him are easy targets.

...and maybe Carrie Anne is holding a bit of a grudge from her flygirl days...ya never know :D.
Not exactly. It is half (fans) a combination of performance and popularity, and the other half (judges), is performance; however, the judges can be influenced by their own likes and dislikes, (rather than popularity, per se), but not nearly skewed as much as the fans, IMHO.

Not exactly. It is half (fans) a combination of performance and popularity, and the other half (judges), is performance; however, the judges can be influenced by their own likes and dislikes, (rather than popularity, per se), but not nearly skewed as much as the fans, IMHO.Understood...the audience portion is skewed very much toward popularity however, otherwise Steve O would be gone. DAG lashing out at the judges was really his only option. His ego was bruised, he didn't care for the judges comments, though the real reason he got cut was that he had no audience. Even so, he wasn't going to complain about the public. He is a performer that needs jobs based upon his ability and his Q rating...something that won't get better if he whines about Ma and Pa Kettle's voting habits.

WABC-DT FiOS TV NYC
The PQ on WABC-DT is very bad with lost of artifacting.
Due to the two sub channels WABC-DT's main feed maxes out at around 14mpbs.

Every recording I make from WABC-DT is a smaller file size then when I record other local 720p stations that have one or more sub channels.