As nice as they are trying to portray him, I find him whiney and lacking personality...where are his supporters coming from?I think a lot of the voting can be explained simply by My most memorable year... graduating High School. Compared to the other stories she was guaranteed to disappear from the audience memories.

Nice looking female gets kicked off show... we're left discussing shim.

Good job ABC/DwtS! Part of your master plan to get rid of me!

We watched pretty much every season since this has started and this year they are just sitting on the DVR.

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show.

Mama Cher will be in the audience as son Chaz tries once again to prove he's not that incompetent. Don't worry, he'll be saved on Tuesday night as some more worthy dancer will get sent home (and to Jimmy Kimmel Live) on Tuesday.

Don't forget! Julianne Hough makes her return to the ballroom on Tuesday for some singing and dancing! :D

Chaz is overdue to get the boot...his/her dancing is horrible and the gender novelty is wearing off...

I see the Marine winning this thing as he has the most talent dancing wise...

Actually, I think he was Army not Marines, but yeah, he looks to be the one to beat.

They already kicked off one Kristen, who I thought might have a chance to challenge him if all the stars aligned perfectly and she made a breakthrough to the next level.

But he seems to be the only one that's good at both latin and standard at this point. All the others seem to be standard specialists, so it'll be tough beating him in the finals which favors the flashy latin and freestyle dances.

I think the quality of dance went down yesterday. What the orchestra was playing for the 'movie music' didn't jive always with the recordings they practiced to (tempo was different).

I don't know, but either Chynna or Carson are my choices for getting eliminated tonight.

I think the quality of dance went down yesterday. What the orchestra was playing for the 'movie music' didn't jive always with the recordings they practiced to (tempo was different).

I don't know, but either Chynna or Carson are my choices for getting eliminated tonight.

After 4 years I'm calling it quits .. I find myself more interested in watching the female pros and the judges commentary .. the "Stars" have just become way too much of a freak show for me ..

We watched pretty much every season since this has started and this year they are just sitting on the DVR.

I tried watching the second episode - just couldn't get into it. The Marine's story is compelling, but I have a feeling that is going to be milked until it becomes nauseating. None of the other celebrities really spark any interest for me, and like mgkdragn, it's hard to justify the time investment just to drool over the female pros and laugh at the judges' commentary.

I don't have a DVR and wouldn't be recording it if I did, sadly, since I have thoroughly enjoyed most of my watching of DWTS. Somewhere The Fonz is putting on his water skis - or is he taking them off? ;)

Me 4 :D

I’m so done with this show. If I walk in the room and it’s on I freak out like Frankenstein confronting fire.

My wife and I have enjoyed it from the very beginning but it grates on me now. We still DVR it but even she zips through or deletes them without watching.

And what’s up with Brooke? The little I see or hear, when she conducts the post dance interviews, she sounds like her brain got sucked out of her head.

By the way, the Army guy is a lock and Hope Solo will finish 2nd. ;)

I think the quality of dance went down yesterday. What the orchestra was playing for the 'movie music' didn't jive always with the recordings they practiced to (tempo was different).

I don't know, but either Chynna or Carson are my choices for getting eliminated tonight.

Show over on the west coast and...

I was right. Chynna's freeze up was her undoing and she is gone.

Fun watching Julianne do, in essence, 3 dances. She and Derek have won 5 mirror-ball trophys between them. Add Mark Ballas to the mix (Derek's surrogate dad) and that family has won 7 (out of 12 total so far) DWTS championships!

Oh gods, next week is 80s week, spandex galore out there. :eek:

Show over on the west coast and...

I was right. Chynna's freeze up was her undoing and she is gone.

Fun watching Julianne do, in essence, 3 dances. She and Derek have won 5 mirror-ball trophys between them. Add Mark Ballas to the mix (Derek's surrogate dad) and that family has won 7 (out of 12 total so far) DWTS championships!

Oh gods, next week is 80s week, spandex galore out there. :eek:

I heard Derek dislocated his shoulder in rehearsal and popped it back in and he was still sharper than Julianne during the performance. What a beast!

It must have required an entire crew of stagehands to get Julianne into those jeans during that quick change.

And to think - those people get paid for that.

Add Mark Ballas to the mix (Derek's surrogate dad) and that family has won 7 (out of 12 total so far) DWTS championships!Dad? Unless I'm mistaken Mark is younger than Derek. Brothers perhaps...

I heard Derek dislocated his shoulder in rehearsal and popped it back in and he was still sharper than Julianne during the performance.I'm sorry but there is something wrong if you can even see Derek if Julianne is dancing at the same time. :)

Dad? Unless I'm mistaken Mark is younger than Derek. Brothers perhaps...
I know that Derek was a member of the Ballas family. I most likely meant Corky in the 'dad' role.

I heard Derek dislocated his shoulder in rehearsal and popped it back in and he was still sharper than Julianne during the performance. What a beast!

Although she looked pretty good doing the contemporary part, unfortunately, I have to agree that she looked a little slow and not very sharp or precise in the cowboy piece. Not sure if she was just under-rehearsed or rusty.

^^ and her elbows looked pointy!

^^ and her elbows looked pointy!

I'm sure it's not from resting on them:D She sure is one busy person!

I'm sure it's not from resting on them:D She sure is one busy person!

I remember reading a quote once that she enjoyed not having to work out constantly and maintaining a dancers body. I am sure she is doing a lot more appearances lately than dance workouts.

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show.

My brother in-law Rob Kardashian keeps slipping through the cracks,will this be the week he goes home...I would much rather watch Chaz hit the road,he/she cries too much about being out of shape and weak knees and is a horrid dancer...

Riki Lake is a strong front runner ,she is really invested into this.I see her in the finale with J.R.

Riki Lake is a strong front runner ,she is really invested into this.I see her in the finale with J.R.
These two are the only contestants who can even remotely compare to those in past seasons. The rest are a joke and I'm on the verge of not tuning in anymore because the show has become boring. Not even Tom's quick wit can save it. If I have my laptop open while the show is on, I find myself more and more not looking up at the TV during some the routines. Watching the judges reach every week to find things to praise is sad. They know that this group is well below standard for the show but they soldier on because they get paid and, they are very invested in the show's being successful.

Side note: It's a shame that Susanna Hoffs of the Bangles has lost so much of her once very sweet voice. The group did not sound very good tonight.

I predict Carson will be sent packing tonight...No connection with the audience,dancing was terrible.See ya pal...

Side note: It's a shame that Susanna Hoffs of the Bangles has lost so much of her once very sweet voice. The group did not sound very good tonight.

Not sure of the singers names but one seemed to still be able to hit the highs(I think the middle lead singer) but I believe the lady to the left(who had lead on one song) sounded much deeper, which also made the harmonies lacking:( Although I've seen much worse on DWTS:D
Ya I'd guess Carson will be gone, or possibly Chaz now that his mother is gone...

I've seen every season and I can't recall any other season where they filled time on MONDAY night with a musical guest. To the best of my memory, they've always either cut back to either an hour and a half or just one hour or added group dances or made everyone dance two dances.

I really don't want to even imagine what a group dance would look like with this bunch or how terrible they'd be having to learn two dances, so I guess it's better to have a music act rather than more dancing. :(

IMHO the producers have wrecked this show so badly by going for "controversial" [in lieu of using the words I'd really like to use] contestants that they are no longer able to get even B-list and C-list talent to sign on to a show which is increasingly cultivating controversy instead of just being a nice two hour escape from all the crap IRL. Instead they've decided to drag all the crap from real-life into the ballroom and rub all our faces in it for three hours a week.

Looking at the ever-shrinking ratings, it seems they've managed to kill the golden goose. It's a shame this show is going to go down in such a sour and negative manner.

The only highlight for me last night was Anna's incredible body. How the heck does she seem to get more buff every season?

How about we just kick everyone except JR and Riki off the show tonight and run the finals next week?

Based upon the very limited postings here there's not a whole lot of interest in this season (with justification). I did watch last night's results show although it was completely predictable. Maybe it's just me but, even though there are now more professional routines between the two nights, they seem to be very pedestrian ballroom numbers. I don't see the kind of creativity that has marked prior seasons. I know that Louis Van Amstel comes back occasionally but it seems to me that this show could really use more of Travis Wall or some of the other choreographers from SYTYCD. The pro routines are beginning to look too similar every week. Brooke is clearly gorgeous and has a very sexy overbite but she stands there with a perpetual frozen smile on her face. It's not quite "Jokerish" but it does get old. It it wasn't for Tom Bergeron this show would be in deep trouble.

I wasn't feeling particularly well yesterday, so I didn't post the result of the results show until now.

They were fun, but lack of technique finally caught up with him. Bye bye, Carson and Anna. And JKL had the audacity of being in reruns this week, so they're not on his show.

FYI, i got a feeling if Hope doesn't start perking up soon, she will be the next to go, good judges scores or not.

Broadway next week, solo dances plus a group number.

I'm with you humdinger70.I believe Hope will be next because she practically said she does not want to be there.

Also its written all over her face and body language.Its a shame as I find her very sexy,large boulder pimples and all...

Based upon the very limited postings here there's not a whole lot of interest in this season (with justification).This week's ratings...

Hitting a Best-Since-Premiere Performance in Total Viewers, ABC’s “Dancing with the Stars” Stands as Monday’s Most-Watched Telecast for the 2nd Straight Week.

Picking up audience throughout its telecast against CBS’ “Two and a Half Men“-led comedy block, “Dancing with the Stars” made ABC (17.5 million) the top draw overall in its time slot for the 5th straight week, while finishing No. 2 in Adults 18-49 (3.2/8) with a 10% advantage over Fox’s dramas (2.9/7) and doubling NBC’s “The Sing Off” (+100% - 1.6/4). ABC’s “Dancing” stood as Monday’s most-watched TV show for the 2nd week in a row.

Building its viewer count for the 2nd week in a row (+4%) and gaining week to week with Adults 18-49 (+7%), “DWTS” generated its most-watched telecast in 4 weeks – since its season opener.

^^^

Which misses the point that they've dropped from consistently having 20+ million viewers before they started dredging the sewers for the most controversial people they could find.

And those 20+ million seasons were when they were up against much stronger competition when both American Idol and Two and a Half Men were at their peak.

If this was one of those seasons where AI and TaaHM were drawing 25+ million, DWTS would be getting slaughtered.

And just after I posted that, I read this in the HOTP thread:

Nielsen Overnights
'Man Up!' kind of does after 'Last Man Standing,' 'The Biggest Loser' still losing
By Lynette Rice, EW.com's 'Inside TV' Blog - October 19th, 2011

Another night of The X Factor – in which the judges revealed their top 17 finalists – helped Fox to post a win among adults 18-49 (3.8 rating/10 share), according to early results. Call it a ripoff of The Voice, or a stepchild of American Idol, but the fact is Fox has won every single night it has aired The X Factor. The network has also dominated on every Tuesday night so far this season among 18-49. Winner winner chicken dinner!

Now on to the competition. Tim Allen, where did your fans go? Last Man Standing was down 17% from its premiere, but it still earned a tidy 3.0/9. Unfortunately for the premiere of Man Up!, viewers were kind of sick of men by 8:30 p.m. — the new comedy only posted a 2.4/6. Dancing With The Stars (so long, Carson Kressley!) earned a 2.6/6, its lowest-rated regular fall telecast ever, and Body of Proof nabbed a 1.9/5.

NCIS on CBS earned a 3.8/10, NCIS: LA got a 3.3/8, and Unforgettable posted a 2.5/6, up 9%. On NBC, The Biggest Loser keeps losing weight, but not the kind they’d like: the reality show was down another 5% to 1.9/5, its lowest-rated regular fall telecast ever. My beloved Parenthood earned a 2.0/5.

On CW, Ringer grew 14% in 18-49 versus last week, but it still only got a .8/2. Eek.

Bottom line: Fox won the night in 18-49 (3.8/10), followed by CBS (3.2/8), ABC (2.4/6), NBC (1.9/5), Univision (which-aired-shows-that-I-can’t-translate-here-but-it-doesn’t-matter-because-they-beat-CW with a 1.5/4) and CW (.8/2). Keep refreshing for more…

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Weekly BUMP. It's Broadway Week on the show.

Who's going to dance badly to an iconic Broadway song?

Wait! There's an iconic Broadway song? :D

Broadway this week, and Carson Kressley was cut last week.

Which misses the point that they've dropped from consistently having 20+ million viewers before they started dredging the sewers for the most controversial people they could find.Two items. How many shows pull the same ratings of years gone by? None. :) How many even make it to 13 seasons... Last week (I saw) zero shows even reached 20 million.

It it wasn't for Tom Bergeron this show would be in deep trouble.I would go so far as to say this show wouldn't have existed this long, let alone be a top rated one, without Tom Bergeron. He's the real star.

As much as I like my eye candy on DWTS, I agree without Tom it wouldn't be the show that it is:)

I would go so far as to say this show wouldn't have existed this long, let alone be a top rated one, without Tom Bergeron. He's the real star.I agree he is the perfect host for the show. Now I have only watched 30 seconds of World's Funniest... whatever it's called so I have to give the producers some credit. Their mantra of having a good time with friends works very well. It's somewhat amazing how many former and future contestants show up in the audience. I do realize they aren't the biggest stars and the free air time can't hurt. :)

It's somewhat amazing how many former and future contestants show up in the audience. I do realize they aren't the biggest stars and the free air time can't hurt. :)I guess it gives these "stars" a rush-- like they are a part of something. The same as they get sitting court side for a Lakers game.

The two lowest scorers this week are Chaz and Hope. I think Chaz is trying hard and will stay, but Hope whines a lot and is starting to look forelorn and disinterested. She still has not (and appears to not want to) embraced her feminine side.

All of that complaining probably turns off voters, so I will venture a guess that she's gone tonight.

Anyone see Kristin Chenowith on Monday night? With her hair pulled back it looked like her face was full of Botox. :eek:

She didn't look that way when she was doing judging on SYTYCD this past summer.

What were DWTS staffers thinking!

The Swami Sez "Hope" will be gone tonight.....Max's little rant cost her some votes imho...

I still would prefer Chaz get the boot due to lack of talent and dancing skills...

The Swami Sez "Hope" will be gone tonight.....Max's little rant cost her some votes imho...She might be going home but I'm not so sure his outrage didn't gain her some votes. Personally, I didn't find it mean spirited more so him trying to protect Hope. Remember last week how hard she took the judge's comments... I can only imagine how she would have taken them this week... without him stepping in.

Anyone see Kristin Chenowith on Monday night? With her hair pulled back it looked like her face was full of Botox. :eek:

She didn't look that way when she was doing judging on SYTYCD this past summer.

What were DWTS staffers thinking!

It was my wifes first statement, what's up with the pulled back hair:eek:

Now over on the west coast and...

The worst dancer of Monday night, Chaz (19 points) has danced his last. It was an interesting run to say the least. At least he can lord it over World Peace. :D

As for Kristin, the staffers fixed things and she looked better.

Hey, a Chelsie sighting (she and Val danced while Martina McBride sang).

It took a while but the front-runners have emerged. And they probably aren't the ones you expected. Ricki Lake and J.R. Martinez. Ricki I've heard of. J.R. who?

I'm starting to think that the others still there (Hope, David, Nancy, Rob) should be told to go home and we go right to the finals with the front-runners. I'll let ABC deal with how to fill in the unused weeks. (Hmmm... Naked Jello wrestling - DWTS female pros vs. female Kardashians? :D)

I'm also thinking that unless J.R. absolutely falls on his face, he's going to help Karina get her first mirror-ball trophy. He is that talented and has a tremendous fan base (especially from the wounded combat vets like he is) to count on.

As much as I like Martina McBride, the new song she sang on DWTS was depressing! Not a good choice IMHO.

Anyone see Kristin Chenowith on Monday night? With her hair pulled back it looked like her face was full of Botox. :eek:

She didn't look that way when she was doing judging on SYTYCD this past summer.

What were DWTS staffers thinking!

I was pretty shocked but it appears that Kristen has a serious receding hairline problem, either a female pattern baldness which is genetic or an alopecia of some kind. Even with her hair down last night, you could see how thin it is in the front. Wearing her hair pulled back on Monday was very unflattering to her.

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I'm also thinking that unless J.R. absolutely falls on his face, he's going to help Karina get her first mirror-ball trophy. ....

That's the only thing that's keeping me watching, the hope that Karina gets her first win.

There's a PBS special featuring the Miami Ballet dancing Ballanchine and Tharp tonight.

The teasers looked promising. This might be a really good show.

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show. It's Halloween. What kind of nonsense will the judges put up with this week? :D

Time change tonight. It's starts a half-hour later and only runs an hour and a half.

Hi, I was not feeling well the last few days so I missed posting the results from Tuesday's results show.

First of all, Justin Bieber. Is he worth all the hype? Not to me. :rolleyes:

As for the eliminations, it came down to Nancy&Tristan and David&Kym (the bottom two) and... Bye-bye David and Kym. No championship for them and no win for Jimmy Kimmel ($1,000 down the drain. Oh well, can't win 'em all)

For the remaining five, it's two dances next week - the regular scheduled one plus the 'instant dance'.

Also, beware. Should be the return of the over-glittered ones. That's right - DanceCenter should be making its seasonal appearance right about this time next week.

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show. Five couples left, two dances for each. Is this Nancy Grace's last hurrah?

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show. Five couples left, two dances for each. Is this Nancy Grace's last hurrah?

Nancy Grace or Hope Solo....I will say though ,Nancy has been a real trooper and has really put forth the effort.Would not be surprised to see Hope leave.

I'd be OK with either leaving:)

Based on what I saw tonight, I reiterate...

1) Looks like tonight was Nancy's last hurrah.
2) The mirror-ball trophy is J.R.'s to lose.

^^ I totally agree with that:)

Show over on the west coast. Before I get to the results...

Hope Solo. Naked. Oh Yeah! :D:D

Len Goodman. Naked. Ow! My Eyes! MY EYES! :eek::eek::eek:

Now on to results...
No real surprise. J.R. had 60, Nancy had 44 - difference too much to make up in audience vote. Nancy&Tristan have danced their last. But I think, like most of you do, she went a lot further than most people expected.

Semi-finals next week.

I really liked the opening all girl number, very good although IMO the all guy number wasn't quite as good. The Dance Center parts were one of the weakest I've seen but I really liked the Michael Jackson routine.
Kind of a up and down night for me but I'm glad the results were what they were. My guess is Hope or possibly Rob will go next week, Hope seems to be improving but Rob probably has more of the important female vote. I agree, Hope's photo shot was rather nice on the eyes;)

Weekly BUMP for Monday's performance show. It's semi-finals week. Who will be told to leave one week prior to the finals? I think it's between Rob and Hope.

Rob seems more likeable than Hope. So I am going with Hope out the door.

Rob seems more likeable than Hope. So I am going with Hope out the door.

I agree,Hope will be out....The writing is on the wall.

JR picked a fine time to get a bad foot injury. It definitely didn't help during his dancing. He and Karina tumbled all the way to third on the judges scoreboard. I think he does make it to the finals next week (with Ricki and Rob) - but then again you never know until it's announced.

Yep, Hope has none, too far behind on judges scoreboard for audience vote to make a difference.

I suspect JR would have gotten 3rd no matter what. They just would have given him a slightly bigger point spread above Hope if he'd done better.

I'm fairly certain that the judges were trying to protect Riki and Rob from Hope and not JR since they think JR's fanbase will keep him safe. Hope seems to have a very strong fan base that has managed to keep her around, so they especially needed to protect Rob who they recognize as having improved a lot more than Hope.

BTW, I vote that Karina has to wear that tango outfit from now on since it did such a fantastic job of showing off her body and moves.

My brother in law Rob K. is quietly stepping it up,I wouldn't be surprised to see him or Rikki Lake win it....

Swami jr says it again ,that Hope is gone tonite....

My brother in law Rob K. is quietly stepping it up,I wouldn't be surprised to see him or Rikki Lake win it....

Swami jr says it again ,that Hope is gone tonite....

Yeah, Rob is the biggest improvement I've ever seen on DWTS. He did get lucky being on a season with such a large number of really bad dancers. Most seasons he would have been gone before he had a chance to get better.

And Cheryl deserves an award just for the work she's done on him this season.

Semi-finals results over on west coast.
Rob & Cheryl - did the encore dance - of course they're finalists.

Ricki & Derek - finalists.

So it came down to JR & Karina and Hope & Maks... and as expected, Hope & Maks are done.

Finals next week - one hour performance show and two hour grand finale show.

Personally I think they put JR in the bottom two as a way to rally his supporters, after all they said of the last two that one wasn't necessarily in the bottom two.
Ask me 3 weeks ago and I'd say JR had it wrapped up, now I'm not so sure. Ricki or even Rob seem to have a good shot at the mirror ball. IMO this hasn't been the best season by far for dancers but it has been the hardest to predict.

I don't have a really good feel for the fanbase, but from a pure dancing standpoint it could be anyone's game both JR and Riki have had meltdowns and could meltdown again in the finals. Although Rob would have to be extremely lucky to have both JR and Riki have big meltdowns on the same night.

I think JR might have a fanbase advantage over Riki, so I think he can afford a minor stumble and still win it.

Does anyone know how much the Pro's make for doing this show?

Does anyone know how much the Pro's make for doing this show?

IF you believe the answers that Google turns up then it's slowly increased from union scale at ~$1000/episode to ~$5000/episode now.

IF you believe the answers that Google turns up then it's slowly increased from union scale at ~$1000/episode to ~$5000/episode now.

Or 1/10th(or less) what each of the two hosts probably makes:p

Or 1/10th(or less) what each of the two hosts probably makes:p

I guess it is still a matter of supply and demand. I am sure there are countless talented dancers who would gladly like to earn that kind of money. I would imagine dancers unlike many other performers are not paid much in comparison.

It does appear the pro dancers are starting to develop their own fan base and this is why the money is going up. It's all about who brings in the viewers.

barry

I am sure there are countless talented dancers who would gladly like to earn that kind of money.The notoriety they receive is priceless. Check out the number of dance studios combined they now operate... must in the hundreds. :)

The notoriety they receive is priceless. Check out the number of dance studios combined they now operate... must in the hundreds. :)
Amazing isn't it? Most people can probably name more of the pro dancers on DWTS than they can their kids school teachers or local politicians. :D:rolleyes:

I guess it is still a matter of supply and demand. I am sure there are countless talented dancers who would gladly like to earn that kind of money. I would imagine dancers unlike many other performers are not paid much in comparison.....

barry

Yep. Unless you're headlining a show, most dancers get union scale. So the DWTS Pros are getting paid much better than the average hoofer.

It's still not a lot of money, but as others have mentioned there are also a lot of perks. There's the name recognition that has allowed them to open studios and for get parts in commercials like Edyta and Julianne (and IIRC Karina and Maks). And to get choreography/dancing gigs on other shows, like Karina and Maks on the Emmy's and Louis on SYTYCD Plus I've seen them showered will very expensive gifts from their celebrity partners.

Plus I'd argue that the name recognition helped both Jonathon and Anna win American titles. Which further helps then get lucrative consulting/teaching jobs.

Weekly BUMP for Monday's performance show. Final one for this season. Promise!

It's finals week - JR Martinez, Rob Kardashian and Ricki Lake - the last 3 celebs standing! Four dances this week! Can JR recover from his ankle injury to claim victory? Will Rob continue his improvement to pull off the upset? Will Ricki have the stamina to survive?

Tune in tonight and tomorrow to find out.

Note: tonight's performance show is one hour only. Grand finale results show on Tuesday will be two hours.

Pretty good finals but still not up to the level of some past seasons. Rob getting a 30 for that number? Give me a break. He's very much improved but still looks pretty stiff at times. Typical DWTS planned judging nonsense.

My guess for tonight is: JR #1, Rob #2 and Ricki #3. The Today show's poll put JR #1, Ricki #2 and Rob#3. JR was #1 by a mile and Ricki and Rob were very close.
I agree, very lackluster finals, to top off a lackluster season. Although from what I've heard the ratings were very good this season:confused:

It is now over on the west coast...

The final individual dances were not scored until after the end with placement giving 30-28-26 points.

Ricki/Derek 1st - 30 points (84 points total)
JR/Karina 2nd - 28 points (82 points total)
Rob/Cheryl 3rd - 26 points (83 points total)

Then the first elimination... Ricki & Derek. Just didn't have the audience vote.

Next up - instant samba. Both routines got 30 points from the judges, so nothing much changed.

In between, the returning celeb couples returned, some redoing their original routines (Metta World Peace nee Ron Artest still not very good) some deciding to do new material with additional dancers. Happiest of all was Chynna Philips who redid her Mission Impossible themed routine and got it right.

Then came the crowning of the season 13 champions....

Congratulations to...

JR and Karina! He recovered fully from his injury and obviously had more of a fan base than Rob did. Kudos also to Karina who finally gets off the sidelines (9 seasons?) and hoist her first championship!

JR and Karina will be doing Jimmy Kimmel Live and then all three finalists hit the red-eye for an appearance on Wednesday's Good Morning America.

What a year for Karina! :D First the Playboy layout and now DWTS champ.

OK, we done and I venture back into the background on this. Next time we meet will be March 19, 2012 for season 14.

Have fun, and make it swell! :)

Karina has one of the nicest bodies I've ever seen, that girl is toned to the max. She is a great dancer, glad she finally got a trophy

GSN will air reruns of DWTS (or at least seasons 4-13) beginning next January:

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/dancing_with_the_stars_gets_syndication_fY5ip70a6KtLAiwx48PZ VI

On another note: I thought J.R. was very deserving of the trophy, because he showed a lot of grace and courage. Even so, I was very surprised that Ricki finished third, given that IMHO she was the best dancer of season 13. My mom, who watched last night's finale with me (WALB 10.2 on Mediacom in Albany, GA), thought that viewers were actually voting against Derek, who won three times as a pro, and therefore thought he should "share the wealth."

Karina has one of the nicest bodies I've ever seen, that girl is toned to the max. She is a great dancer, glad she finally got a trophy

++++ on that! The Playboy pics were stunning. Her body is as close to perfect as I've ever seen. It was nice to see her finally bring home a win although Cheryl did a teriffic job getting Rob to be a decent dancer. I found Ricki's elimination to be very disappointing. I was hoping that she would win. She was, IMHO, the best pure dancer on the floor this season. Kudos to Derek for another fine effort. He always shows grace, patience and wisdom well beyond his years. His ability to connect with and mentor women old enough to be his mother has always been impressive. It's hard to argue with JR's win however. The combination of the heartbreaking, then heroic personal story, his willingness to not hide in the shadows and his, by and large, very good dancing was the pefect mix for the show and for the voting public. Good for him.

I really enjoyed the "what really happened" clips that were shown on the results shows this season. Hearing the chatter between the pros and their partners and or among the judges was very interesting and entertaining. Good move by the show runners.

I think all of the finalists won:


Ricki - New Jenni Craig (or similar) spokeswoman.
Rob - Cheryl said she would visit him at least once a week for forever. :)
J.R. - Won the new improved trophy.

I think all of the finalists won:


Ricki - New Jenni Craig (or similar) spokeswoman.
Rob - Cheryl said she would visit him at least once a week for forever. :)
J.R. - Won the new improved trophy.


Actually Ricki just got a new talk show gig.

... My mom, who watched last night's finale with me (WALB 10.2 on Mediacom in Albany, GA), thought that viewers were actually voting against Derek, who won three times as a pro, and therefore thought he should "share the wealth."

I'd agree that was part of it.

Karina has one of the nicest bodies I've ever seen, that girl is toned to the max. She is a great dancer, glad she finally got a trophy

Both Karina and Anna were amazingly toned this season. And it's not like either one of them have ever been a little soft like Cheryl, so I don't know how they've managed to kick it up a notch.

From the HOTP thread [my emphasis in bold]:

Nielsen Overnights (18-49)
'Stars' finale slides but ABC still wins night
Two-hour season ender averages a 4.1 in 18-49s
By Toni Fitzgerald, Media Life Magazine - November 23rd, 2011

The season 13 finale of "Dancing with the Stars" was way down from last year, but it was still strong enough to boost ABC to its first Tuesday victory of the season on the penultimate night of sweeps.

"Stars" averaged a 4.1 adults 18-49 rating from 9 to 11 p.m., according to Nielsen overnights, down 23 percent from a 5.3 for last fall's finale.

"Stars" averaged 19.4 million total viewers, nearly 5 million fewer than last fall.

The dip wasn't a surprise. This has been one of the lowest-rated "Stars" seasons in years, and the cast never quite gained the sort of traction with viewers that past celebrities did.

Still, seeing actor and Iraq War veteran J.R. Martinez capture the title eight years after he was severely burned by a roadside bomb was certainly heartwarming. "Stars" was easily the night's top show, comfortably ahead of CBS's "NCIS" (3.5) and Fox's special episode of "The X Factor" (3.2), which were both down from last week.

On the strength of "Stars" ABC finished first for the night among 18-49s with a 3.5 average overnight rating and a 9 share. Fox was second at 3.2/9, CBS third at 2.9/8, NBC fourth at 1.9/5, Univision fifth at 1.4/4, Telemundo sixth at 0.6/2 and CW seventh at 0.5/1.

As a reminder, all ratings are based on live-plus-same-day DVR playback, which includes shows replayed before 3 a.m. the night before. Seven-day DVR data won’t be available for several weeks. Forty-two percent of Nielsen households have DVRs.

At 8 p.m. CBS was first with a 3.5 for "NCIS," followed by Fox with a 3.1 for the first hour of "Factor." ABC was third with a 2.3 for "Last Man Standing" (2.7) and "Man Up" (1.9), NBC fourth with a 1.9 for "The Biggest Loser," Univision fifth with a 1.5 for "Una Familia con Suerte," CW sixth with a 0.6 for "90210" and Telemundo seventh with a 0.5 for "Mi Corazon Insiste."

ABC took the lead at 9 p.m. with a 3.8 for "Stars," while Fox remained second with a 3.2 for more "Factor." CBS was third with a 3.0 for "NCIS: Los Angeles," NBC fourth with a 2.0 for more "Loser," Univision fifth with a 1.5 for "La Fuerza del Destino," Telemundo sixth with a 0.6 for "Flor Salvaje" and CW seventh with a 0.4 for a repeat of "Hart of Dixie."

At 10 p.m. ABC was first again with a 4.4 for more "Stars," with CBS second with a 2.2 for "Unforgettable." NBC was third with a 1.9 for "Parenthood," Univision fourth with a 1.1 for "Aqui y Ahora" and Telemundo fifth with a 0.7 for "La Casa de al Lado."

ABC was also first for the night among households with a 9.9 average overnight rating and a 15 share. CBS was second at 8.8/14, Fox third at 5.4/8, NBC fourth at 3.3/5, Univision fifth at 1.7/3 and Telemundo and CW tied for sixth at 0.8/1.

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art...wins-night.asp (http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman2/publish/Overnights_50/-Stars-finale-slides-but-ABC-still-wins-night.asp)
And if the rumor I heard is true and they've sunk from dredging the sewers to trolling the sex offender registery to sign Pee Wee Herman then I'll predict they'll lose another 5 million viewers next season too. :(

From the HOTP thread [my emphasis in bold]:

And if the rumor I heard is true and they've sunk from dredging the sewers to trolling the sex offender registery to sign Pee Wee Herman then I'll predict they'll lose another 5 million viewers next season too. :(

Please. Get off his case. He was caught playing with himself in a porno theater. What else are supposed to do at that kind of place? And even the evidence against him doing that was dubious at best. Oh an it was 20 years ago. You act like he raped someone. Paris Hilton, Kim Kardshian, Pam Anderson and others can have sex tapes and that's ok. Try LEARNING about FACTS before spouting garbage.

Please. Get off his case. He was caught playing with himself in a porno theater. What else are supposed to do at that kind of place? And even the evidence against him doing that was dubious at best. Oh an it was 20 years ago. You act like he raped someone. Paris Hilton, Kim Kardshian, Pam Anderson and others can have sex tapes and that's ok. Try LEARNING about FACTS before spouting garbage.

You're the the one that needs to learn the facts. Or did you you intentionally leave out this part?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090127212902AA5CEpJ

In 2001, police searched Reubens' house and found items characterized by the city attorney's office as child pornography. According to Reubens the items were from his vintage "erotic artwork" collection which had people "one hundred percent not" performing sexual acts.The charges were dropped in 2004 after Reubens pleaded guilty to possessing obscene images of minors.so as to avoid going to court and risking jail. For the next three years Reubens had to register his address with the sheriff's office and could not be in the company of minors without their parents' permission.

So let's see, the only "fact" I mentioned was "sex offender registry" which was correct.

The "facts" you mentioned, "20 years ago" is wrong, "only public masturbation is wrong", "dubious evidence" = had to take a plea deal do avoid jail time, I'll count that as a push. Plus a big lie of omission.

Looks like I easily win the on "facts".

As Corey Feldman has said, "Pedophila is Hollywood's biggest problem". So no, I'm not going to "get off his case".

Oh my goodness, it's almost that time again! Time to resurrect this thread for season 14, starting Monday, March 19.

The celebrities for the upcoming season will be announced Tuesday, February 28 on Good Morning America.

Get your dance shoes on! :D

Link here: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/27/the-new-celebrity-cast-of-dancing-with-the-stars-to-be-announce-february-28-on-good-morning-america/117808/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29

You're the the one that needs to learn the facts. Or did you you intentionally leave out this part?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090127212902AA5CEpJ



So let's see, the only "fact" I mentioned was "sex offender registry" which was correct.

The "facts" you mentioned, "20 years ago" is wrong, "only public masturbation is wrong", "dubious evidence" = had to take a plea deal do avoid jail time, I'll count that as a push. Plus a big lie of omission.

Looks like I easily win the on "facts".

As Corey Feldman has said, "Pedophila is Hollywood's biggest problem". So no, I'm not going to "get off his case".Come on Mac... You're really going to use somebody's random Yahoo(!) answer as proof of your point? I think you really do need to do a little more research yourself before you go flinging BS pedophilia claims around. If you do you will find that Reubens' incident in the erotica theater was indeed 20 years ago. And if you actually spend the time to read a little about the bogus pornography charges that came up ten years ago you will find that he was the victim of an overzealous city attorney who pushed to continue the prosecution even after the District Attorney who reviewed the "evidence", (his collection of vintage erotica dating back to the early 1900's), found there was no basis to bring up felony charges against him. The City's case even tried to implicate him with a video tape that was ultimately found to be from a completely different case, which they then claimed somehow got mixed up in their evidence lock up...

In the end the child pornography charges were dropped and Reubens plead guilty to single charge of possessing obscene material, paid a $100 fine and was put on informal probation for three years, with the agreement that at the end of the three years the entire thing would be expunged from his record. He was never put on any sex offender registry. So before you go calling someone a pedophile you might just want to get your facts straight as that's a pretty serious defamation to be throwing around so lightly bro.


ron

Season 14 celebrities and their pro partners were announced today on Good Morning America.

Since there's an article in the 'Hot Off The Press" thread, I will simply link to it here:
http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=21708159#post21708159

Maria Menounos....mmmm

Wow, the lamest cast ever. A couple washed up has beens and a bunch of nobody's. Horrible cast.

Wow, the lamest cast ever. A couple washed up has beens and a bunch of nobody's. Horrible cast.Every year is the worst... by now you would think people would know what the show is about.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=20884875#post20884875

My pick is ....

Maria Menounos for the win.
Jaleel White for runner up.

Bonus pick - in Jaleel's first dance intro video, he'll mention that he plays basketball at least 12 times. Also, when they get to the point where they have to whole "go back to what your comfortable" practice session, Kym will have Jaleel on the basketball court practicing dance moves.

ft

Every year is the worst... by now you would think people would know what the show is about.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=20884875#post20884875

Dancing with strangers?

My god, is Hough ever going to get saddled with a stumble-bum(ette) for a partner? :rolleyes:

Dancing with strangers?C'mon you've got Laura Ingalls Wilder and Erkel. It's going to be awesome.:rolleyes:

I'll dance with Maria Menounos all day..

I'll dance with Maria Menounos all day..

Oh yeah! Very hot, that one. Katherine Jenkins ain't exactly chopped liver either. Actually this cast looks more promising than the last few. It's got a nice mix of age and celeb occuptions. Gladys Knight may be the oldest contestant but she's not exactly ancient. I'll be curious to see what Tony can do with Martina.

It's got a nice mix of age and celeb occuptions.I read their goal this year was to have likable (fun) contestants.

I think this lineup of "stars" is a huge improvement over the last couple of seasons.

One week to go BUMP. :D

It all starts next Monday, March 19.

It's here!! BUMP for the premiere performance show. TONIGHT. Two hours.

And don't forget to tune in Jimmy Kimmel Live after Nightline to see and hear his commentary and who he's bet on to be this season's winner. He's gotten it right five times in eight seasons, so he's doing better than a lot of Vegas bookies are trying to predict NFL games. :D

Nice quote regarding the not so dancing stars...

Katz insists the outcry about the unknowns happens with each season and then dies out. Last season it was an Iraq war veteran named J.R. Martinez, who ended up storming his way from obscurity to instant American hero, taking the DWTS championship.

"When J.R. was announced, I had so many people saying to me, 'Who is this? You have to Google him,' " Katz says. "But the idea of the show is that by the end, you're enjoying people you never knew."

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/story/2012-03-18/dancing-with-the-stars-unfamiliar-names/53622926/1

WABC-DT NYC FiOS

Due to the lack of bandwidth with 7.2 HD and 7.3 SD sub channels the PQ of the show is awful.
Lots of motion artifacts during the dances.

Wow, the lamest cast ever. A couple washed up has beens and a bunch of nobody's.

That's what Dancing with the Stars is all about!

That's what Dancing with the Stars is all about!At this point the pro dancers are more stars than the contestants. Which reminds me I miss Edyta. I found it refreshing not to have the well known lousy dancer this year. All and all a pretty strong start and enough variation to find someone to cheer on.

I hate to say it, but Chelsea and Cheryl looked that they enjoyed the off-season a bit too much.

For a cast that could barely be called "stars", I was pleasantly surprised. We had the token lesbian (should go home), the token black athlete (surprisingly good, but not to the judges), and a bunch of other D-listers.

I best liked Driver and Jaleel (who?). Sheri was "light" for a heavy gal; Gladys wasn't.

Looking at the cast, I expected terrible ratings. It might not be that bad.

Did anyone have problems with the sound mix? I am watching right now in Seattle (Comcast) and all of the sound is coming from the center channel.

WTF?

I am in California also in the western time zone watching OTA and while most of the audio here is in the center there is some audio in the other channels as well. I did hear a commercial go by that had the dialog only in the center but the music content and no dialog in the L & R fronts.

Either the judges were very generous in their initial scoring (nobody got below a 20) or the dancers were better than planned.

I think either Melissa Gilbert or Martina Navratilova will be the first to go next week.

Surprise performer: Jaleel White (Urkel) who looked a lot more polished than anybody might have thought. He and the opera singer were tied for first place (with 26 points - 9s awarded in the first round? :eek:) after the first round of judges' scoring.

FYI, if you didn't watch Kimmel, he's picked Green Bay Packers wide receiver Donald Driver to be this season's winner. Got to better than David Arquette (who he picked last season but finished 6th overall - worst placing by a Kimmel pick ever).

I hate to say it, but Chelsea and Cheryl looked that they enjoyed the off-season a bit too much.

Chelsea looked the same to me but Cheryl definitely packed on some pounds...she's sexy to me regardless but her face and body are bigger this season

Was I the only one annoyed by all the Twitter comments being plastered on the screen? If this is something they're going to do every week, it might be enough to make me skip the show. I don't care if xman4123 thinks the show is AWESOME!

Was I the only one annoyed by all the Twitter comments being plastered on the screen? If this is something they're going to do every week, it might be enough to make me skip the show. I don't care if xman4123 thinks the show is AWESOME!Agreed! Now that DWTS is doing it we'll probably see it spread to other shows like American Idol, America's Got Talent, The Voice, The Bachelor, Survivor and so on just like the other screen detritus! (one does it they all do it).

I am in California also in the western time zone watching OTA and while most of the audio here is in the center there is some audio in the other channels as well. I did hear a commercial go by that had the dialog only in the center but the music content and no dialog in the L & R fronts.

KGO San Francisco via Comcast. The sound here was way top heavy on bass. I had to knock my AVR's Audyssey Bass offset to it highest level to get some of the audio detail back. OTOH, the overall PQ was very good here. I didn't see any blocking or artifacts during the broadcast.

Agreed! Now that DWTS is doing it we'll probably see it spread to other shows like American Idol, America's Got Talent, The Voice, The Bachelor, Survivor and so on just like the other screen detritus! (one does it they all do it).

The Voice started doing it last year and have been doing it extensively this year too.

OTA KSTP in MSP, 1 SD sub. Overall picture quality was about as good as ABC gets, didn't listen in 5.1 so can't comment on that aspect.
All in all I was quite impressed by the cast, no real stinkers in the lot. Thought the scoring was a little top heavy but don't think anyone really deserved less than a 6, I just would have given more 6's and 7's and less 8's and 9's.
Oh I also didn't care for the increased screen clutter by adding the Twitter clutter. For the first half of the show we had local blocking Wx scroll on the bottom, the ABC eye in the right corner followed by a rotating box(time/temp and station logo) near the left bottom all framed in a 16x9 box(pillar box to keep the proper aspect because of the large blocking scroll on the bottom):eek: Thankfully the last 1/2 was free of clutter other than the ABC bug(inside the 4x3 frame:rolleyes::mad:).

For a cast that could barely be called "stars", I was pleasantly surprised. We had the token lesbian (should go home), the token black athlete (surprisingly good, but not to the judges), and a bunch of other D-listers.

I best liked Driver and Jaleel (who?). Sheri was "light" for a heavy gal; Gladys wasn't.

Looking at the cast, I expected terrible ratings. It might not be that bad.

Sheri was indeed surprisingly light on her feet, the "classical" singer from UK (sorry, forgot her name) looked like she had been watching actual dancing and knew how she was supposed to look in hold and also was careful with her feet. Jaleel, I thought, was pretty awful, which tells me that the judges fawning over him might be the result of producers whispering in their ears. But just my take.

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show. After last week's stellar performances (was there really a bad dance in the bunch?), all 12 stars come back to do a second dance (Latin if they did ballroom last week and vice versa) for your votes.

Someone has to go home tomorrow night (then have their required visits to Jimmy Kimmel Live and Good Morning America).

Will your favorite join the Kenny Mayne/Tucker Carlson/Jeffrey Ross first-out club? :D

Second week of performances now done. Some kept up to the high standard, some fell somewhat off the cliff.

Based on last night, I think either Sherry, Melissa or Martina will be the first to go. My take: Martina Navratilova is gone.

Yup... Maria hot as ever, and I'm falling in love with Katherine... didn't know who she was but she's gorgeous..

Yeah it's between Martina and Melissa going home today..

Yup... Maria hot as ever, and I'm falling in love with Katherine... didn't know who she was but she's gorgeous..

Yeah it's between Martina and Melissa going home today..
Katherine Jenkins is a Welsh opera singer who did a singing appearance on DWTS during season 12.

I'm also liking Katherine quite a bit, she seems very genuine. As for tonight I think Martina might be the first to go home. Not that she was that terrible but this season really has no total stinkers so from the process of elimination she'll probably be the first to go.
BTW did anyone else notice Brooke's dress this week:eek: try as I may I just couldn't look her in the eyes;)

Told myself I was out this year...but I watched anyway. Definitely a more talented/polished group and there are 5 or 6 that can go all the way. However, the latin soap god is going to garner the female votes all the way through. Katherine is already wearing on middle american housewife...comments like...ringer, phoney, fake are pretty commonplace. I personally think she's got alot of class and hopes she stays. Donald Driver and Derek's partner have a ton of potential. Roshon will last awhile, but how many tweenish watch this show. I think Jaleel shot his wad in the opening. Not that he won't get better, but that routine took weeks to put together. He didn't look polished last night.

Now over on the west coast, so I can report.

Last three couples left were: Roshon&Chelsie (a surprise!), Gavin&Karina and Martina&Tony. The latter two were the bottom two.

And going home is...

No real surprise - Martina&Tony. She really didn't do her jive well last night and it cost her.

Also reported, Maria didn't just hurt her ribs, she broke two ribs. She is a trooper.

Also reported, Maria didn't just hurt her ribs, she broke two ribs. She is a trooper.

She sure is, although that horse laugh of hers is one of the strangest sounds that I've heard eminate from a human being in awhile:D.

I remember when Katherine Jenkins did her vocal guest shot in a Season 12 results show that, beyond her spectacular soprano, I was struck by her looks. Seeing her on this show, especially with the hair style that she sported this week while doing the Jive, I am now thunderstruck by how drop dead gorgeous she really is. She is stunning! Young Mr. Ballas has luckily fallen into it again (and maybe he'd like to in other ways:D).

She sure is, although that horse laugh of hers is one of the strangest sounds that I've heard eminate from a human being in awhile:D.

I remember when Katherine Jenkins did her vocal guest shot in a Season 12 results show that, beyond her spectacular soprano, I was struck by her looks. Seeing her on this show, especially with the hair style that she sported this week while doing the Jive, I am now thunderstruck by how drop dead gorgeous she really is. She is stunning! Young Mr. Ballas has luckily fallen into it again (and maybe he'd like to in other ways:D).Yep, she's hotter than a pistol. I can imagine her real personality is alot more fun than a stuffy classical vocalist generally personifies to the public.

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show. Martina Navratilova's exit last week was kind of expected. Who goes this week?

Either the judges were extremely generous in their scores, or the dancing was off the charts tonight. Not a single score below 8 and there were three 10s to boot (only week 3!).

Only 5 points separate first from last (5 couples with 24, William&Cheryl with 28, Katherine&Mark with 29).

So the audience vote will make a HUGE difference in who stays and who goes tomorrow. Right now, I'm not interested in venturing a guess on who get eliminated.

Either the judges were extremely generous in their scores, or the dancing was off the charts tonight. Not a single score below 8 and there were three 10s to boot (only week 3!).

Only 5 points separate first from last (5 couples with 24, William&Cheryl with 28, Katherine&Mark with 29).

So the audience vote will make a HUGE difference in who stays and who goes tomorrow. Right now, I'm not interested in venturing a guess on who get eliminated.I actually thought Derek and Maria got shortchanged tonight. Their rumba was nearly flawless, but since they danced early they got solid 9s. Then Kathryn and William danced later and scored 10s. I guess the judges just gave up trying to control the scoring. Whatever, the talent level of the top 6 dancers is as good as the best over the last few seasons. Heck, I think Donald is better than Hines Ward and he's having to fight his way into contention.

I actually thought Derek and Maria got shortchanged tonight. Their rumba was nearly flawless, but since they danced early they got solid 9s. Then Kathryn and William danced later and scored 10s. I guess the judges just gave up trying to control the scoring. Whatever, the talent level of the top 6 dancers is as good as the best over the last few seasons. Heck, I think Donald is better than Hines Ward and he's having to fight his way into contention.
I give Maria the award for hardest working dancer this week. Practice time with Derek, then cross-country flight to Florida to participate in a match at Wrestlemania on Sunday night (that's not gotta help the ribs!) and then back to California for the live performance show on Monday night!

I'm pretty sure she and Derek snuck in as much practice time as they could those last few days.

I give Maria the award for hardest working dancer this week. Practice time with Derek, then cross-country flight to Florida to participate in a match at Wrestlemania on Sunday night (that's not gotta help the ribs!) and then back to California for the live performance show on Monday night!

I'm pretty sure she and Derek snuck in as much practice time as they could those last few days.

Gotta give Maria major props for, even with the injured ribs, doing Wrestlemania and DWTS in almost the same time space. From what I've read, she goes well beyond the average celeb in WWE and really sells out during her matches. She appears to be an excellent athlete and a very good dancer as well.

Yeah I love Maria... but I'm prediction a Katherine Vs. William at the very end..
Winner decided by mostly women? they'll vote for William..

Either the judges were extremely generous in their scores, or the dancing was off the charts tonight. Not a single score below 8 and there were three 10s to boot (only week 3!).Before the show aired this year I read they were going for a fun/good time season and it looks like the scoring has been slanted that way. Not to say there has been many bad dances but the scale has appeared to have been slid up a point or so which makes it difficult to really reward a great dance. Also, early on they trend to grade on a perceived scale.

Just watched the results show. I really enjoy watching Jonathan and Anna dance. They are just so Great.

Also I would like to thank Brooke for her dress again tonight.

With the show over on the west coast, the results are in and...

Bye-bye, Jack and Anna. As expected it came down to audience vote as the last three standing couples were tied for last place in the judges scoring.

KISS next week, on the performance show? They won't give it up will they?

With the show over on the west coast, the results are in and...

Bye-bye, Jack and Anna. As expected it came down to audience vote as the last three standing couples were tied for last place in the judges scoring.

KISS next week, on the performance show? They won't give it up will they?

I was disappointed that Jack got the boot. He had much more upside as a dancer than Gavin but his heyday as a celeb is in the past and Gavin's is now so that probably affected the vote. Jonathan and Anna's tribute was beautiful, heart wrenching and was in keeping with the week's theme. The fact that Julia Ivleva was there made it a very special moment. The All-Star guys troop including Travis Wall and Twitch, among others was freaking brilliant. Nice to see the SYTYCD alums again and the more I see of Twitch, the more impressed I am at what a great all around dancer he has become. Tony and Sharna were wonderful and Rascal Flats was, as always, excellent. Overall, the results show was first rate last night.

I can imagine her real personality is alot more fun than a stuffy classical vocalist generally personifies to the public.

Katherine Jenkins is a lot better known over here in the UK (Doh! Obviously - she's from here). I guess the partially-BBC team producing DWTS thought she had potential. She has a down-to-earth, girl-next-door image. She's also done a lot of performances for the armed forces, and is often involved in the annual Festival of Remembrance we have here to remember those who have died in conflict. (If you ever see a Brit wearing a red paper poppy in their lapel it's for this cause)

Whilst she sings operatic music I don't think she's ever actually performed in full operas - she's more of a concert/recording artist.

Popular though. She recently split with her long-term boyfriend (a UK TV presenter - Gethin Jones)

Katherine Jenkins is a lot better known over here in the UK (Doh! Obviously - she's from here). I guess the partially-BBC team producing DWTS thought she had potential. She has a down-to-earth, girl-next-door image. She's also done a lot of performances for the armed forces, and is often involved in the annual Festival of Remembrance we have here to remember those who have died in conflict. (If you ever see a Brit wearing a red paper poppy in their lapel it's for this cause)

Whilst she sings operatic music I don't think she's ever actually performed in full operas - she's more of a concert/recording artist.

Popular though. She recently split with her long-term boyfriend (a UK TV presenter - Gethin Jones)She may have a girl next door image, but if she dances the Rumba, Salsa and Tango anything like her Jive, that image may change. She can turn up the heat. From all indications, she lives up to her image, but I'm thinking there's more there than her image ;).

What is the name of the troupe girl that danced the first dance on the results show, wearing purple, kind of shorter then the other troupe dancers? She is so beautiful.

It's Monday. Time for another weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show.

It's Rock&Roll Week. With live performances by KISS tonight and tomorrow. (Oy.)

Dancers brought down to earth tonight, both in terms of performance and judges scores. Only Donald&Peta raised their level of competition, scoring 27 and leading the judges scoring.

Also, per Tom, "Dance Duel" will not start until next week, so normal elimination rules apply for Tuesday's results show.

Lots of low scores last night.. including Katherine and William.. was it the shoe? what the?

I think Gladys is going home..

Lots of low scores last night.. including Katherine and William.. was it the shoe? what the?


Classic DWTS MO. When a couple of the contestants seem to be opening up too much ground on the rest of the group, the judges will, justified or not, lowball them to bring thme back to the pack.

Not a bad gig for KISS. Only had to perform one song (their signature song) and got to shmooz with the rest of the cast the rest of the show.

Classic DWTS MO. When a couple of the contestants seem to be opening up too much ground on the rest of the group, the judges will, justified or not, lowball them to bring thme back to the pack.Actually, I thought everyone was overscored the first 2 weeks. Probably because the level of competence was greater as a group. Yes, they brought all down last night, but William screwed the pooch and Katherine only deserved 8s.

Where did Melissa have her injury I watched the dance, I didn't see anything out of place? Except for the slip on her dress.

Up to this week I thought the best dancers were fairly judged and the not so good scored a little high. This week they still gave out a 27 and the few highly rated ones from previous weeks did appear to step down a bit... it was nice to see their scores follow.

Where did Melissa have her injury I watched the dance, I didn't see anything out of place? Except for the slip on her dress.
She hit her head on the floor near the end, according to reports.

UPDATE: We were shown the video during the results show. Melissa's head hit against Maks' knee causing a mild concussion. She was taken to the hospital as a precaution. She was not there during the results show.

Show now over on the west coast.

Again, Melissa Gilbert hit her head against Maks' knee during a spin move and suffered a mild concussion. She was hospitalized overnight and was not present during the results show. However, she and Maks were deemed safe so they will be back for next week, barring other complications.

As for the results...

Bottom two shocker - Roshon&Chelsie and Sherry&Val were the bottom two (Roshon was second on the judges leaderboard). And gone are...

Sherry&Val.

Latin week next week, including the Dance Duel between the bottom two couples on the results show.

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show. Latin Week this time. I'm sure the ladies are going to ga-ga over what William Levy will be doing.

"Tassels have a lot of bounce!" :D:D Yes they did Maria...;)

EDIT: Also, way to grab that booty Jaleel!

Santana performing on tonight's show. Better them than KISS.

Hey lookie! A Louis Van Amstel siting!!

Would anyone be kind enough to enlighten me as to exactly what the h*ll Maria and Derek were supposed to be doing? Wifey says Salsa, I say the music was Samba and that Maria/Derek looked like they were making a pathetic attempt at that. Frankly, loved Maria's headgear (but would have preferred a Carmen Miranda fruit bowl).

For a long while they rarely played the music that the dance demanded, like last week playing rock to quick step or tango.. . I wonder what they do next.. country music to mambo dancing? geesh

Hey, I long ago stopped viewing this show as anything even remotely resembling a dancing competition. I also realize that everyone likes different music. But these pathetic attempts by the producers to show viewers how relevant dancing is by using music that isn't anywhere near danceable is, IMO, driving a lot of fans away. Of course the show seems to be doing well so I guess I can't blame them.

Next week is Motown salute. You can pretty much guess that once that tidbit came out, Gladys Knight's audience vote count probably went way up.

Show now over on the west coast and the results are in.

First off was the encore dance, Maria & Derek's salsa. Which they interrupted in the middle (music stopped) so they could plant big wet ones on Bruno & Carrie Ann, respectively. :D

Next week is Motown salute. You can pretty much guess that once that tidbit came out, Gladys Knight's audience vote count probably went way up.
Yeah, I kind of saw that coming. She was in the first group for results and was safe.

The bottom two were Gavin & Karina (expected) and Jaleel & Kym (unexpected), so they did the Dance Duel cha-cha.

Judges decision (was unanimous) that Jaleel & Kym won the duel and they're safe, so bye-bye Gavin & Karina.

Next week, Motown special with live performances (for the dancing) by Motown superstars. Should be interesting.

<snip> so bye-bye Gavin & Karina.

And kudos to Gavin for his graciousness as a good loser; very classy, IMHO.

Hi. Me Again. Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show. Motown special with live performances (for the performers) by Motown stars.

Hi. Me Again. Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show. Motown special with live performances (for the performers) by Motown stars.

Sure would love to see Gladys get up there and do "Midnight Train to Georgia". Wishful thinking.

It's Motown week but what are they dancing?

I can't fathom a Lady Gaga song with cha-cha-cha dancing.. that was like a WTF moment there last week... please don't continue this madness

Still madly in Love with Maria and Katherine..

I can't fathom a Lady Gaga song with cha-cha-cha dancing.. that was like a WTF moment there last week... please don't continue this madnessThe other night PBS had a show covering a ballroom dancing contest and I watched three minutes. That's all I could last as the music, announcers and even the contestants were so robotically boring. I agree the music needs to be styled for the dance... however a fair amount of leeway is a good thing. :)

I didn't know this until I saw a message in the HOTP thread.

There's a 20/20 special on some of the behind the scenes stuff that happens on DWTS. It starts at 10:01 PM, right after Monday's performance show.

Kind of interesting 20/20 special, at least for fans of DWTS.
Gladys was at the bottom and contrary to what I thought going into the night I think she may be the one going home. That or maybe Melissa or even the young Disney star Roshon. Also going in I thought Jaleel had a chance of going home but after the dance off I think he'll be safe for a few more weeks.
Katherine was great, but Maria kind of faltered in the dance off but no way she'll be going home.

No real talk about Picture Quality this year but IMO it's OK HD at best. Don't get me wrong, it's real HDl(a fair amount better than a upconvert) but not as good as other ABC programming(GMA comes to mind which is very good, especially for 720p) or certainly not up to CBS or even NBC when they get it right.
Maybe it's just my market?? but the HD and graphics just aren't crisp as they could be, which is sad considering the great skin this show provides. I also see fairly bad macroblocking during scene cuts(which I could deal with) but I just don't like all the mosquito type garbage during a stationary scenes:(

46" calibrated 1080p Sony TV, OTA with 2 SD subs. I might blame the subs but again shows like GMA can look so stellar I think it must be more the program itself:confused:

No real talk about Picture Quality this year but IMO it's OK HD at best. Don't get me wrong, it's real HDl(a fair amount better than a upconvert) but not as good as other ABC programming(GMA comes to mind which is very good, especially for 720p) or certainly not up to CBS or even NBC when they get it right.I'm guessing it's simply the look they are going for. Like The Good Wife never has that video look to it. Except for a rare scene such as last week. They had an outdoor scene and it was dramatically sharper so much so it didn't even look like the same show. However here I haven't noticed any macroblocking and I'm fairly sensitive to it. The biggest issue I have had with the show is the audio. Tom's and Brooke's mikes (around the dance floor for years) makes them appear to be in a can. I have noticed it through several receivers although of late I haven't. I guess I'm blocking it out or perhaps they resolved it...

I didn't know this until I saw a message in the HOTP thread.

There's a 20/20 special on some of the behind the scenes stuff that happens on DWTS. It starts at 10:01 PM, right after Monday's performance show.
The usual stuff for a "behind the scenes" special. Except for, the part where they showed the DWTS knock-off that airs in Argentina. Boy does that edition push some buttons. :D:D

FYI, you can find the uncensored version of the video by Googling "Argentina Dancing With The Stars". Warning: not office safe, very much R-rated! :rolleyes:

A different flavor with last night's Motown special. Live performances (for the dancers) by Martha Reeves, Smoky Robinson and The Temptations. Interesting that they had fellow Motown-er Gladys Knight leading off the dance competition performances.

Very different with the live vocals from the actual performers vs. the music as performed by the Harold Wheeler led orchestra.

I was a bit disappointed in that they only three live performers, was hoping for more (a different one for each couple?), but still acceptable. The cover group Human Nature, doing the singing during the breaks, could have been used.

Also, Martha Reeves was limited to doing the opening segment and one song for the dance competition itself. Smoky and the Temptations did the other 7. Was she having problems or was it planned that way?

The usual stuff for a "behind the scenes" special. Except for, the part where they showed the DWTS knock-off that airs in Argentina. Boy does that edition push some buttons. :D:D

FYI, you can find the uncensored version of the video by Googling "Argentina Dancing With The Stars". Warning: not office safe, very much R-rated! :rolleyes:Ok...had to do it. Definitely a different take on the DTWS formula. Which one's are the pros? Oh, they all are I guess...and what's with the crowd and announcer acting outraged? Do they play it straight until they throw in one of these "get off" performances?

DWTS results show now over on the west coast, so I can report...

The bottom two were: Roshon&Chelsie and Gladys&Tristan. They did a jive (first time for both) for the dance duel. A split vote this week and eliminated are:

Gladys&Tristan.

On to next week with seven couples and multiple dances for all couples each week.

On another note, a nice blending of DWTS stars and SYTYCD alumni. Chelsie, Dimitri, Adichike (dancing with the young ballerina) and Travis, Nick, Melanie (yes, I saw her :D) and I think the other female finalist (her name escapes me, sorry) from last season's SYTYCD group. Nigel Lythgoe, if he was watching, would have to be pleased.

Finally, an All-Star season?

"I thought she was doing amazing," he said, when he added, "You know what, Kelly? They're doing a Dancing With the Stars: All-Stars this next season. They called me to do it."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2012/04/dancing-with-the-stars-plans-all-star-season/1#.T5gr8DJYstp

Finally, an All-Star season?

"I thought she was doing amazing," he said, when he added, "You know what, Kelly? They're doing a Dancing With the Stars: All-Stars this next season. They called me to do it."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2012/04/dancing-with-the-stars-plans-all-star-season/1#.T5gr8DJYstp
If they want to go out with a bang, do the following:

1) season 15 (fall), do the all-star thing as Mario mentioned, bring back those who came close to winning but didn't - give 'em a second chance.

2) season 16 (spring - final season), do a 'champion of champions' thing - bring back all 14 prior season winners (15 if you include the all-stars winner) or as many that would like to participate and crown a 'champion of champions'. Make it interesting - couples would also play for a charity (with big money at stake) - $50,000 per couple each week they advance (each charity guaranteed $50,000 regardless of outcome), double that ($100,000) for quarter and semi-final weeks, and the winning couple gets a super-size mirror ball trophy and... $1 million to that couples charity.

That second one (spring champion of champions) could be a bit dicey because of the multiple wins by the pros - Derek's won 3x, Mark has won 2x (ditto for Kym Johnson, Cheryl Burke, Julianne Hough if she comes back). The multiple win pros would select the celeb they want to partner with and others would have to be assigned.

If they want to go out with a bang, do the following:I don't think they want to go out at all. :) The ratings are still very strong and production wise it can't be that costly. I think teaming the pros with their highest finishing contestant would work nicely (as much as possible). Feels more like a rivalry to me than changing partners which could work as well... Off the wall I'm guessing you could even have the pros dance with more than one partner... now that would get complex. I guess they practice 5 (to 6) hours a day (on practice days)... anything to get Julianne and or Edyta back on the floor.

Julianne said on the special she hasn't really danced since leaving. When I watched her on Footloose promo last fall where she did a duet with Derek you could tell she wasn't as crisp. I question whether she has it in herself to back into complete shape.
Looking at all the hours the pros put in in with their partner and then add all the special dances. It is just nuts.

Weekly BUMP for this week's performance show. Classical music week. No, Katherine Jenkins probably won't sing, she's too busy dancing and leading the pack. FYI, Tuesday will be the final Dance Duel for the bottom two couples.

Also, two weeks to the return of over-glittered ones on DanceCenter. :D

Why is this the only show that gives me pixelation problems? No other shows on the same network have this problem. Uverse.

Weekly BUMP for this week's performance show. Classical music week. No, Katherine Jenkins probably won't sing, she's too busy dancing and leading the pack. FYI, Tuesday will be the final Dance Duel for the bottom two couples.

Also, two weeks to the return of over-glittered ones on DanceCenter. :D
Now not so sure about having DanceCenter this season.

Tom announced that next week they will have the dreaded 'double elimination', which means they will go from 6 to 4 couples (right to the semi-finals). They go from 7 to 6 on tomorrow night's results show.

I guess that having them all dance two weeks in a row at the beginning of the season required this.

Why is this the only show that gives me pixelation problems? No other shows on the same network have this problem. Uverse.Could simply be based in its content. Lots of fast action, moving lights and whatnot. Rather bandwidth demanding... of which I don't believe (admittedly) U-verse offers.

I was thinking that Katherine Jenkins was the leader - it was hers to lose. And now Maria and Derek pull out a 30 for their vampire paso doble. She must have been channeling her inner Bela Lugosi :D. Shows you how unpredictable this season has been.

Any takers on who does the Dance Duel tonight?

I was thinking that Katherine Jenkins was the leader - it was hers to lose. And now Maria and Derek pull out a 30 for their vampire paso doble. She must have been channeling her inner Bela Lugosi :D. Shows you how unpredictable this season has been.

Any takers on who does the Dance Duel tonight?

I thought that Katherine and Mark got jobbed by Bruno and Carrie Ann. Trying to dance a Rhumba to "Canon in D" was a diffiicult task.

I must have missed Lady Gaga's Bad Romance now being included in the classical collections that are sold on infomercials:D

It was interesting that, after all the judges' praise for Team Paso, they scored one piont less than Team Tango (which I thought was smashing).

Here's a great recap and assessment from Louis Van Amstel:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/05/louis-van-amstels-dancing-with-the-stars-season-14-dish-classical-week-recap/

I was thinking that Katherine Jenkins was the leader - it was hers to lose. And now Maria and Derek pull out a 30 for their vampire paso doble. She must have been channeling her inner Bela Lugosi :D. Shows you how unpredictable this season has been.

Any takers on who does the Dance Duel tonight?

I will say that Maria/Derek's performance didn't surprise me (not that I saw it coming, of course). They did a Rhumba a few weeks back in which Maria was about as good as anyone I had seen on that show, looked almost professional, at least from a layman's perspective. So Maria has it in her (not to say that was the reason the judges awarded a 30, of course, just one of those times when the blind squirrels find a nut :)).

I was thinking that Katherine Jenkins was the leader - it was hers to lose. And now Maria and Derek pull out a 30 for their vampire paso doble.I tend to think although she is getting better that was still a freak occurrence... more or less a perfect storm not to be repeated and a lot of the scoring (10s) was the result of his choreography.

Now as far the public voting which will determine the winner... who knows. Her "romance" with Derek might help or hurt. My guess it will come down to who is left standing "by themselves" after a few more eliminations. If most of the guys go it might be a guy... if most of the girls go it might be a girl...

If Melissa goes tonight, then the rest of the contestants are pretty evenly matched. The following week is the double elimination, right? Some pretty fine dancers are going to go. We'll see who is really pulling the votes among the elites. I'm kind of hoping for a final four of Donald, William, Katherine and Maria...after that, the best dance wins.

Show over on the west coast...

Encore dance by, as expected, Maria&Derek, who surprised us with an alternate ending (usually saved for the DVD :D).

Nice story (and recovery) by Steelo of the Groovaloos.

The ballroom battle went to Team Cheryl, Team Tony was second and Team Louis was third (no I didn't watch the web stuff).

Surprise! Marked as safe were... Melissa&Maks. So the Dance Duel (rumba) was between Jaleel&Kym and Roshon&Chelsie. The result was unanimous, and the couple leaving (and headed to Jimmy Kimmel Live!) is...

Jaleel&Kym (who by his own admission was hoping to stay at least 3 dances). So good for him. Roshon... better do some body building exercises quick!

Next week, double elimination to get us to the semi-final four.

I'm sort of flabbergasted that Melissa is still there...I believe there was a 4-5point differential between she and Jaleel/Roshon. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands or million votes that equates to.

I too was surprised about Melissa though my guess is both Melissa and Roshon will be going next week, isn't next week a double elimination?
I thought Roshon and Jaleel were quite evenly matched and could have went either way AFA their elimination but I believe Melissa should have been the one who went.

Anybody watch Kimmel on Tuesday night? David Arquette was a scheduled guest and in come Jaleel White and Kym Johnson (who was David's partner on DWTS the prior season). (Usually the first guest is gone when the DWTS castoffs arrive, but Jimmy had David stay to meet and greet his former pro dance partner)

Had to be awkward for Kym when asked who was her favorite between the two. :D

I'm sort of flabbergasted that Melissa is still there...I believe there was a 4-5point differential between she and Jaleel/Roshon. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands or million votes that equates to.Not all that many actually. Even less when they combine the two dances. It's based on percentages of all of the votes combined for each contestant. To make it simple let's say...

9 contestants get 30
1 contestant gets 20

That's 290 in total...

10.3% for 9 contestants
6.9% for one

So the last place person would just need to have more than 3.4% telephone votes to be safe. And that's a really extreme example. With two dances (the second pretty much a wash) it reduces the percentage a lot.

I believe that's how the scoring works.

Still madly in love with Maria, the very reason I began to watch this show, Katherine comes close second though..

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show.

A lot of 'double' this week. Double dances for the competitors, double elimination tomorrow night.

Another crazy night. Another 30 (William&Cheryl) and another leader after the judges scores (William&Cheryl).

DanceCenter fans, it's all good. DanceCenter will be on tomorrow night's results show. :D

Somebody who I really like is going home tomorrow, maybe two somebodies. I thought Len jobbed Maria twice. I thought Katherine fell back a tad. Roshon improved. I thought Donald got jobbed a bit. Either the tango or that jive trio deserved a 30. Melissa improved, but still was slightly overscored. With her audience...or Maks'...she could easily be safe and we'll lose Roshon and one of the lookers( maybe both :eek:)...and I'm leaning towards Maria as the one that has the most legs. Her connection to Derek is intense, that waltz was amazing. Katherine can't compete with that heat. William was solidly excellent and I'm sure he's safe. It's usually a two dog race by now. I'll be bummed if I lose my girl(s).

Very odd scoring by Len and KA, thought both Katherine and Maria were under scored at times and I can't believe they gave Roshon a 30:eek: I mean I was thinking solid 8s or maybe 9s but just didn't see 10s across the board:rolleyes: almost like they were trying to make sure he didn't go home no matter what the audience did....or maybe they knew no matter how high they scored him he would still be going home(maybe his audience vote has been that low) so they figured he could go out on top with the judges but still go.
As much as I think Melissa tries I think she'll be the first to go, followed my Roshon. I believe Donald should be safe and you'd think front runner Katherine and Maria should also be safe, that only leaves William who has also been popular....that second one leaving will be hard to say but again from the process of elimination I'd guess Roshon.

The scuttlebutt at work(just average watchers, no insiders) is one of the two leading ladies could go:eek: I'd sure hate to see that happen:( They also seemed to agree the judges scoring last night was on the odd side...

I haven't been able get Maria and her Bollywood dance out of my head all day. OMG was she HOT or what? I don't care what the tabloid sites say....her and Derek have something going on. Always calling her "Baby" and the congratulatory kiss on the lips. It's on between them 2. I don't care what anybody says.

The scuttlebutt at work(just average watchers, no insiders) is one of the two leading ladies could go:eek: I'd sure hate to see that happen:( They also seemed to agree the judges scoring last night was on the odd side...Len was apologetic about the Bollywood score to Maria on a morning TV interview. He said he'll feel like a swine if she gets voted off, but still stands by his judgement that it wasn't a Samba or enough of one. He raved about the choreography and performance :p ... tough time to enforce his ballroom sensibilities. Yeah, I'm concerned either or both Maria and Katherine might pay the price tonight.

The scuttlebutt at work(just average watchers, no insiders) is one of the two leading ladies could go:eek: I'd sure hate to see that happen:( They also seemed to agree the judges scoring last night was on the odd side...If you work the percentages (especially with two dances to average out) I think the judges voting will have little affect... at least as far as a couple of points. Unless of course the public voting is extremely close... which I can only guess isn't.

I tend to see Katherine and Maria sharing the same fan base and as such the odds are pretty good one will have to go soon. One would hope Melissa is gone which leaves one left. I'd say Roshon but he has been coming on strong plus there is no one left similar to draw votes away from him. For me Donald is very good but I'm not sure he is all that attract as far the the voting public. Hard to say but doesn't appear to have that Emmitt charm.

I agree with the Bollywood dance. Derek's choreography of late has been stellar. She was framed wonderfully throughout the entire dance and it was worth a 10 solely on the choreography. Not to mention Maria was fantastic... just the right attitude.

Dial Idol predicting Melissa as safe...everyone else in jeopardy with Kat/Maria the bottom two. DI is usually wrong, but there's an 80k difference between Melissa and the next pair...William/Cheryl.

Dial Idol predicting Melissa as safe.

And that would be an absolute joke, making the show look very bad. Melissa has improved but she isn't close to Katherine or Maria. I have been very unhappy with what the judges have done to Katherine. They seem to find obscure things to ding her on. Maybe they originally felt that they needed to bring her down to the pack but they may have overplayed their hand and it could earn Ms. Jenkins an undeserved trip home.

The show is about ratings... not the best dancer. And finding an underdog to support is part of the plot. :) Also, the judges largely score on a sliding scale based on perceived talent. At times they will try to separate two couples as in to protect one of them (at least that's my take). Without knowing how the voting goes we have no idea if the judges score really matters (to any degree). Perhaps even getting lower scores might rally their troops and stop them from being voted off if they were scored higher...

And that would be an absolute joke, making the show look very bad. Melissa has improved but she isn't close to Katherine or Maria. I have been very unhappy with what the judges have done to Katherine. They seem to find obscure things to ding her on. Maybe they originally felt that they needed to bring her down to the pack but they may have overplayed their hand and it could earn Ms. Jenkins an undeserved trip home.

After how many years you haven't realized that people vote fan favorites and likeability over skill. Think Marie Osmond, Kirstie Ally, and the list goes on and applies to the other shows as well

Taylor Hicks versus Katherine McPhee
Michael Grimm versus Jackie Evancho
Benji Schwimmer versus Travis Wall

It's now over on the west coast.

Barring the usual fluff that is DanceCenter (and Len's pasty body - did we really need that? :eek: :D)...

There was drama early as Katherine&Mark were 'in jeopardy' for most of the show. Donald&Peta were safe.

The first to go: Roshon&Chelsie. He just didn't have the fan base. (William&Cheryl were safe)

Maria&Derek? As Tom said, "Hooray for Bollywood!" and saved them.

So the last two standing were Melissa&Maks and Katherine&Mark. And this week...

No save by the audience vote, Melissa&Maks are also gone. And it's Melissa's birthday too. Not a nice present, but she was happy to get as far as she did.

So the final four are the two hunks (William Levy, Donald Driver) and the two babes (Maria Menudos, Katherine Jenkins). Unfortunately, we lose one next week.

Semi-finals next Monday.

Well woohoo for another week. Can't say I have a favorite between the 4. I enjoy them all. May the best dance win, again and once more.

So the final four are the two hunks (William Levy, Donald Driver) and the two babes (Maria Menudos, Katherine Jenkins). Unfortunately, we lose one next week.

Semi-finals next Monday.

All is right with the world (for a change). This is one of, if not the best semi-final in the show's history. The remaining celebs are all excellent dancers and any of them could win this thing.

For some reason, Roshon and Melissa were not on JKL last night. There wasn't even a mention of the double elimination in his monologue. For Jimmy that's rare and it was a live recording that night. Maybe because he had Johnny Depp on?

It's not all practice...


http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1073736!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/dancing-stars-contestant-maria-menounous-flaunts-bikini-body-poolside-derek-hough-article-1.1073737


The article includes the Katherine rumors... looks like Derek is giving Mark a run for his money.

She's a cutie...no doubt...and from what I've seen of her personality on the show, I think I'd like her. Derek's a good pro and she has talent. Maybe not enough, but I'm glad she's still in it. I like all the remaining contestants, even though I suspect that William is a bit of a sleaze...seems he likes to record his sexual encounters on his phone and show them to new recruits ;). Hell, if I coulda, I woulda.

My two favorites on the semis.. of course Maria and Katherine..

I guess I should get in line behind Derek and Mark for Maria? ouch.. too much competition... maybe I'll sneak attack and get Katherine instead.. :P

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance show. It's semi-finals week, two dances per couple. Show is only 90 minutes due to the season debut of "The Bachelorette".

Down to (the best so far) William, Donald, Maria and Katherine. Unfortunately, we lose one of them :( tomorrow night.

So the final is 3 couples? right?

So the final is 3 couples? right?
Always has been (maybe except season 1).

They did the double elimination last week.

Always has been (maybe except season 1).Yeah - season one only had two finalists with a total of six contestants. Back in the day... :) After the winners were announced they came back and had a dance-off and lost to the second place couple. With the rumored all-star season coming up it will be interesting to see if the old couples can catch up to today's level of dancing.

This seems to be the most evenly matched final four in quite some time. Barring one of them flubbing big time tonight, any one of them could be leaving tomorrow. Donald's chances of staying are pretty good since six of the past winners have been sports figures. The other three are all matched with pros who have multiple wins under their belts. Derek with three, Cheryl & Mark with two each.

This seems to be the most evenly matched final four in quite some time. Barring one of them flubbing big time tonight, any one of them could be leaving tomorrow. Donald's chances of staying are pretty good since six of the past winners have been sports figures. The other three are all matched with pros who have multiple wins under their belts. Derek with three, Cheryl & Mark with two each.As you say, barring a fubar, the judges scores will probably be close enough that the vote will decide this tonight and next week. Whoever's got the strongest following will win it. While I like the girls, Donald would seem to have an advantage. I'm not sure, even though the audience goes crazy for him, William really has the votes over DD. It would seem to me the girls will split their segment. However, just a thought, I did read that Maria and Derek get far and above more youtube views of their dances. Don't know if thats relevant or not. Maybe she's more popular than I think.

One of, if not the best semi-final in the show's history. All four celebs were excellent. Maria and Derek's Tango was superb. If you didn't know better, you would swear that these two were totally into each other in a blazing love/hate relationship. Len, as usual, couldn't see the Forrest through the trees when he dinged Katerine for an entirely insignificant issue. It's too bad that she had the issue at the end of her second number. She was killing it prior to that and would have had at a least a 29. I suspect that she will be bounced tonight, maybe being saved by Donald leaving instead. It's now clear that Maria and William will joust for the win. Maria is the better dancer but William gets the women's vote going away.

Maria is the winner for me... but it comes down to votes, maybe 70%+ of the viewers are women and will vote for William...

Yeah it's between Katherine and Donald for going home tonight.. I would have loved a Maria Vs. Katherine at the very end..

Maria is the winner for me... but it comes down to votes, maybe 70%+ of the viewers are women and will vote for William...If history tells us anything...

Season 1 - Kelly Monaco and Alec Mazo
Season 2 - Drew Lachey and Cheryl Burke
Season 3 - Emmitt Smith and Cheryl Burke
Season 4 - Apolo Anton Ohno and Julianne Hough
Season 5 - Helio Castroneves and Julianne Hough
Season 6 - Kristi Yamaguchi and Mark Ballas
Season 7 - Brooke Burke and Derek Hough
Season 8 - Shawn Johnson and Mark Balllas
Season 9 - Donny Osmond and Kym Johnson
Season 10 - Nicole Scherezinger and Derek Hough
Season 11 - Jennifer Grey and Derek Hough*
Season 12 - Hines Ward and Kym Johnson
Season 13 - JR Martinez and Karina Smirnof

A hunk won't win and the ladies have won almost half of the time. However I do think William is better than most of the previous hunks. I believe it comes down to how much of the voting block that typically vote for ladies are split between Katherine and Maria... if one is eliminated (tonight) the other stands a good chance of winning it all.

If history tells us anything...

Season 1 - Kelly Monaco and Alec Mazo
Season 2 - Drew Lachey and Cheryl Burke
Season 3 - Emmitt Smith and Cheryl Burke
Season 4 - Apolo Anton Ohno and Julianne Hough
Season 5 - Helio Castroneves and Julianne Hough
Season 6 - Kristi Yamaguchi and Mark Ballas
Season 7 - Brooke Burke and Derek Hough
Season 8 - Shawn Johnson and Mark Balllas
Season 9 - Donny Osmond and Kym Johnson
Season 10 - Nicole Scherezinger and Derek Hough
Season 11 - Jennifer Grey and Derek Hough*
Season 12 - Hines Ward and Kym Johnson
Season 13 - JR Martinez and Karina Smirnof

A hunk won't win and the ladies have won almost half of the time. However I do think William is better than most of the previous hunks. I believe it comes down to how much of the voting block that typically vote for ladies are split between Katherine and Maria... if one is eliminated (tonight) the other stands a good chance of winning it all.If you wander over to the DTWS board, you'll see threads dominated to Maria hate (or Derek hate), very few positives. Katherine is about 50/50 love/hate. Both William and Donald threads seem to be about 95% love. This just might mean that catty folks just can't shut up. I kind of think this is the case since there were quite a few pro Mel/Maks and Roshon threads on there previously most of which focused on Maria and Katherine hate...and it didn't help them. Probably the same posters starting new threads.

BTW, Louis Van Amstel and the NY Times dance pros all felt everyone was overscored last night (for the most part).

All my votes were sent to Maria, I have like 10 email accounts.. LOL

I don't have ATT so I didn't vote with that method..

If you wander over to the DTWS board, you'll see threads dominated to Maria hate (or Derek hate), very few positives.I wander pass most of the posts in threads I read here so I'll pass. :) I do think team MariaDerek is rather polarizing. Personally, I find her attitude refreshing (she never even mentions her injuries) and her chemistry with Derek is incredible. Lastly, you really need to credit Derek for his choreography as I think this year it has been way above the others.

Looking over the list of past winners it's hard to think many of them would beat any of the remaining four. Perhaps a couple.

I wander pass most of the posts in threads I read here so I'll pass. :) I do think team MariaDerek is rather polarizing. Personally, I find her attitude refreshing (she never even mentions her injuries) and her chemistry with Derek is incredible. Lastly, you really need to credit Derek for his choreography as I think this year it has been way above the others.

Looking over the list of past winners it's hard to think many of them would beat any of the remaining four. Perhaps a couple.Nicole is the most polished contestant I can recall and a Hines Ward/Donald Driver competition would be very close. I think Gilles Marini was better than William in the hunk category, but you're right any of these contestants could have won it all in previous seasons. I also agree about Maria. She's got heart and doesn't complain. The injury drama has been overplayed (again) by the producers. That said, if Katherine had been paired with Derek, she'd be the odds on favorite this year. He seems to have the magic touch in getting the most out of his partners.

I'm going to put a spoiler here for those who haven't seen the results show yet...

Katherine&Mark are through to the finals.

Good for them...and congrats to Donald and William...I'm sad about Maria. She grew on me the most.

OK, I gave a spoiler in an earlier posting, a shocker, but now the results show is over on the west coast and time for the reveal.

Katherine&Mark are..... SAFE! When she heard the news she jumped up and down excitedly a lot, so her back is better (or that was some adrenaline rush).

Next up were Maria&Derek, and you would think with them in first place in the judges scores, an easy path to the finals, right? WRONG! They were in jeopardy.

William&Cheryl (who did an encore of their perfect score samba) and Donald&Peta were next to find out and safe were..... William&Cheryl.

So it came down to Donald&Peta (third in judges scores) and Maria&Derek for the final spot in the finals and the couple eliminated were....

SHOCKER! AGAIN!
Maria&Derek. And to add a little insult to this, Jimmy Kimmel is in NYC for ABC's upfronts, so they won't go on his show (they will do Wednesday's GMA).

Other items...
Julianne Hough back in the ballroom! :D Still looking good.

What's up with Carrie Underwood? Her pigeon-toed foot posture was ridiculous.

Next season confirmed. All-stars (as in prior contestants) going from past winners to past favorites to outright controversial contestants. Who will be there for season 15? I guess we'll have to wait until September to find out.

Next week's finals performance show is only 1 hour long. 3 couples, 6 total dances (and one more on the results show, plus the return of the eliminated contenders).

It's going to be a long week.

I'm going to put a spoiler here for those who haven't seen the results show yet...

Katherine&Mark are through to the finals.

FYI, I usually don't do spoilers, but I said, why not. :rolleyes::D

Well my favorite is gone but good luck to the rest, they are all good! Glad Katherine wasn't punished for Mark's mistake(to me it was obvious he knocked her leg out from under her with his leg as he crossed over her, but that's water under the dam).
While I thought Julianne's dancing was good I just didn't care for her hair, to each his own I guess and I also noticed the rather odd foot positions of Carrie as you said, "ridiculous".
Have no real feeling on who's going to walk away with the mirror ball next week, unlike some previous seasons I think it will all come down to the final dance and on that note, may the best dancer win:)

Oh crap, I guess my votes didn't help much.. Sad to see Maria go.. It's gonna be between William and Katherine.. I'm rooting for Katherine but the likely winner is gonna be William...

A real shocker and sneak attack type would be Donald winning.. expect it..

Unbelievable show last night. It got two loud "Holy Craps" out of me. The first was Katherine being safe and of course the second was Maria being eliminated. Katherine is so very charming, earnest and self-affacing and that may have carried her through. There might have also been a Len backlash at work here as well. His nitpicking of her may have made her more attractive to the voters. Once she was saved, it had to be Donald going but he has also been charming, earnest and his life story is very inspiring. He dances with great emotion, always a plus. He has also been a consumate professional during his NFL careeer and votes might have gone his way because of that. Maria was the better pure dancer and has a great personality. The reasons for her being bounced are not entirely clear but I do wonder about whether the judges overplayed their hand in terms of the level of praise and the scores that they gave her. Sometimes the voters sense that the judges are shaping the results and rebel against that. All in all, it's been a great season for the show and the finals should be very entertaining.
Next season's returning All-star format should have some very good dancing form the get go. I could see Joey Fatone, Drew Lache and Hines Ward among others coming back. Hopefully Nicole can join the party as well.

I have now lost confidence of this being a dancing competetion and just a hot bod contest now. Last night proved it. God love William & Donald for their rough upbringing, but they could get up there next week and do the hokey pokey and it would be a close vote with Katherine being eliminated first.

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance (finals!) show.

Who has what it takes to bring home the mirror ball trophy tomorrow night? William, Donald or Katherine?

Maria was the better pure dancer and has a great personality. The reasons for her being bounced are not entirely clear but I do wonder about whether the judges overplayed their hand in terms of the level of praise and the scores that they gave her.When they the were reviewing Maria's dances from the previous night my wife volunteered "I might have had enough of her" and although she has never voted in her life she is well within the demographics of the show. Might just be her intensity and to some degree the over done relationship with Derek grew old. Plus, I think she and Katherine split a lot of votes which more or less doomed one (or both of them).

When they the were reviewing Maria's dances from the previous night my wife volunteered "I might have had enough of her" and although she has never voted in her life she is well within the demographics of the show. Might just be her intensity and to some degree the over done relationship with Derek grew old. Plus, I think she and Katherine split a lot of votes which more or less doomed one (or both of them).

I could see the possibility that Maria's very outgoing (some might say "in your face") personality could, after repeated exposures, put a segment of the voters off. Contrast that with Katherine who is a brilliant singer, quite beautiful but very self-effacing and overtly insecure in this genre of entertainment. That probably is more endearing to many. I think that, after awhile, there was some suspicion that Derek was carrying Maria more than it appeared whereas Katherine, from a pure skill and technical standpoint, was just better. Mark has been more of a pyschological and emotional crutch for her but the woman can definitely move around the dance floor. It should be a real bang up final with three very engaging contestants so let the games begin.

I wonder how many fans actually vote on who they feel the best dancer is on any given night...especially at this point in the season. Favorites are established, battle lines have been drawn and for the most part, I feel the audience has already decided on who gets their votes. That's kind of a shame. I decided long ago, I'd never get involved in the voting process, just enjoy the show for it's entertainment value and root for the best dancers. That said, I'm not going to vote tonight, but I'd have no problem in voting for the best performance...not necessarily who my favorite is. It's going to be close and subjective for those who vote that way. What do you think...maybe 2% haven't already prejudged this competition?

While it's true that many people have already made up their minds I do think that could change if anyone made a blatant mistake or someone obviously had a super number. If everyone just does good people will probably just vote who they have liked in the past.
I really have no idea this year but I think Katherine's odds went up when Maria was eliminated last week. Looking forward to tonight!

They are all HOT tonight!

West Coast broadcast is well over. A great final. William was excellent but Katherine was flawless on both of her dances. Donald's country western freestyle was the highlight of the night. He finally got that 10 from Len.
Scores:
Katherine 60
William 59
Donald 59

One more dance for the judges scores tomorrow but I've gotta say it's Katherine's to lose.

So the winner is gonna be determined solely on the judges right? why bother voting? LOL

My picks:
1. William
2. Katherine
3. Donald

I wish this show would die along with American idiot...

The show (and season 14) are now over on the west coast, so time for the reveal.

An action packed show with lots of dancing (of course!) from the pros and all the celebrities. Plus songs by both Kelly Clarkson and season 14 dancer Gladys Knight.

Let's just say that the judges scoring of the final competitive dances on tonight's show was academic - all 10s across the board. So the final judges total scoring:
Katherine&Mark - 90
William&Cheryl - 89
Donald&Peta - 89

Third place....
William&Cheryl

Second place....
Katherine&Mark

First place (and new champions)....
Donald&Peta
(Donald did his usual roll on the floor happy dance. At least the Packers got one championship trophy this season. :D)
Great turnaround for Peta - last season, with Metta World Peace, first out; this season, she's hoisting the mirror ball trophy.

(FYI, DialIdol got it WRONG! They predicted Katherine&Mark for 3rd by a wide margin)

By the way, that loud noise you hear in the background? That's Jimmy Kimmel laughing all the way to the cashier's window in Vegas. NostraDANCEmus has struck again - he's now correctly predicted the winner 6 out of the last 10 seasons, better than some football bookies/pundits.

Winners help Kimmel celebrate tonight, then all three finalists off the GMA on Wednesday morning.

Another season in the books. Next season, all stars - some good, some bad and some head scratching choices. See you in September.