I bet it'd taste like gravy.
:D
mmmmmmmm gravy...


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Not so poor Marissa who seems incapable of peeling off the pounds.

I agree with awarding Marlee the most improved trophy, but does Marissa get the all-time least improved? She really seems to struggle dropping the pounds, and she probably has/had the most improvement to make.

Cristian and Mario got "Jason'ed" tonight (scores totally out of proportion to the mediocre quality of their dance). Sometimes you've got to wonder what the judges are smoking backstage (Paula was there in the audience; maybe she shared some of her stash. :D)

I disagree on Cristian, I thought his performance was very good, easily his best yet. I just think that he's in trouble in the votes department, as he just isn't very well-known to most, and doesn't have the effervescent personality of someone like Helio to overcome it.

BTW. Speaking of bodies that look much younger than they actually are, I'd like to nominate Marlee for having the most improved body this season. Although she was a little bit thinner 20 years ago in Children of a Lesser God IMO, she actually has better muscle tone today than she had back then.

Funny, last night, when they initially walked out and we were only half watching, my wife said, "man, Edyta really wears some skimpy outfits, oops, thats Marlee"

I thikn that Marrissa has lost some weight. Just look at her picture in teh opening montage.

Funny, last night, when they initially walked out and we were only half watching, my wife said, "man, Edyta really wears some skimpy outfits, oops, thats Marlee"

I thikn that Marrissa has lost some weight. Just look at her picture in teh opening montage.

Not surprising. Dance is considered one of the best cardiovascular exercises there is. Also, no one is goofing off on practice - they're getting about 20-25 hours per week of it every week.

I'm sure Bill Parcells will be real pleased on how Jason looks, once he gets back to Dolphins training camp - he should be in mid-season form. (Assuming of course that he doesn't get traded along the way - rumors have been circulating).

Not surprising. Dance is considered one of the best cardiovascular exercises there is. Also, no one is goofing off on practice - they're getting about 20-25 hours per week of it every week.

I'm sure Bill Parcells will be real pleased on how Jason looks, once he gets back to Dolphins training camp - he should be in mid-season form. (Assuming of course that he doesn't get traded along the way - rumors have been circulating).

I'm thinking that Bill will ride him about it anyhow. It's how he works.

The first time he misses an assignment...
"Come on Twinkle Toes!" "This ain't no dance party ya know."

I'm sure Bill Parcells will be real pleased on how Jason looks, once he gets back to Dolphins training camp - he should be in mid-season form. (Assuming of course that he doesn't get traded along the way - rumors have been circulating).

It would be funny if he got traded to the Cowboys, considering last night's comments on the "country" dance.

Great....

I fudge on Cristian being the next eliminated and he does a dazzling foxtrot.

And in other ways that fouled up my order of elimination, I think Shannon has hit her plateau and may leave soon, but it looks like Marlee did an awful job with the mambo (and with a mambo champion as partner to boot!) and unless a big tide of votes come in, she's out.

Also, is it possible Jason is reaching his limits?

Re: Jason...

Looks like his mind might have been a bit elsewhere this week as there was a family tragedy this week, according to the latest entry he keeps in his blog over at ESPN: http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3358069

Cripes, is this series cursed or what?

Yeah, that one has to go down in the Product Placement Hall of Fame (or, more rightly, Shame). We were rolling our eyes right out of our heads. :rolleyes:...

Yeah that was shameless. The most interesting thing to me was that it took cell phones to makes video calls a reality. I guess that just shows that land-line technology is totally stagnant.


Anyway, looks like Cheryl might have finally tamed Cristian's arms. Looks like my pick of him to make the finals is a little bit better. I was starting to get really worried that he'd get cut this week.


Shannon and Marlee sure got screwed this week. I'm not sure why they had to do back-to-back latin dances instead of getting a smooth dance this week, but it's probably going to result in one of them getting cut.


Mario's rhumba was hot hot hot. Now that's a rhumba! Not that tepid stuff we saw last week. I'll have to disagree with Len on this one. It wasn't raunchy at all. There wasn't any grinding of body parts together or anything really raunchy. Just two amazingly hot bodies moving very sensually.

Pushing the “romance angle” between partners… is to DWTS… as the “pathetic auditions” are to American Idol.

It might have been a spontaneous event in earlier seasons (in both shows) but now it’s bad television.

Yeah it's starting to become a joke. But I'm going to fan the flames anyway. :D

There's was one point last night when Mark was making doe-eyes at Kristi. I wonder what's going on there???? ;)

There's was one point last night when Mark was making doe-eyes at Kristi. I wonder what's going on there???? ;)

Considering the size and shape of her husband, Mark better hope it's nothing. ;)

It seems to me that Kristi is getting more confident and her personality more open. She's having a lot of fun. The others seem to be trying very hard, but are tight and lack that flair. The gap is getting bigger.

Just a reminder, since it hasn’t been brought up in a while---

Samantha SUCKS!!!

There, I feel better now.

Hey, good for lame boy Derek. :cool: He surprised me with his rant on the judges. He really let loose on them.

The show did turn up the suspense level tonight with the final two under the red glow-- the weakest dancer vs. the pompous couple.

(SPOILER ALERT: West Coasters who have not seen tonight's show can ignore this post.)





I'm a bit surprised that Shannon is still alive (she was not even in the bottom two) given she did not do so well last night. OTOH, I am not surprised that much by Marlee going home, since her mambo, while admirable, was not quite her best. I still applaud Marlee for overcoming her limitations and lasting as long as she did on the show. It was a class thing that Tom did when he hugged Marlee at the end.

Also, I admired the Riverdance performance in mid-show. I guess it was a good day to be entertained by Irish stars, on the heels of Carly Smithson :) nailing "Superstar" on AI earlier.

I will say this about Ashlee Simpson: she has even nicer legs than Mariah Carey. ;) (And, IMO she is more musically talented than her sister.)

I will say this about Ashlee Simpson: she has even nicer legs than Mariah Carey.

I begrudgingly agree on that one. Mariah still has the killer voice. Was still expecting some goofy country dance to cover for the possibility of lip synching, and I wasn't paying too much attention to her performance. It was of course Ashlee Simpson. :o

HOWEVER... those dancers in red were interesting. ;)

Samantha's sucking is probably why someone may have 'left' her mike off for a second or two. :D

I was surprised to see Mario in the bottom two (I expected Jason). Looks like his fan base wasn't there tonight! (It's possible Jason got some sympathy votes after he posted on his ESPN blog about his wife losing her grandfather).

Marlee. Well, you gave it a good run, dear. More power to you.

Shannon, who lost in the first round of the Heads-Up Poker Championship over on NBC, has got her work cut out for her. She (like the others) is going to have to master a smooth dance (no problem there) and a Latin dance (big problem there). Unless she nails both, most likely she's gone after next week.

Just a reminder, since it hasn’t been brought up in a while---

Samantha SUCKS!!!


That's become one of those things that's just so obvious anymore that it almost goes without saying. But thanks, yes, it probably was time for a reminder. :)

That's become one of those things that's just so obvious anymore that it almost goes without saying. But thanks, yes, it probably was time for a reminder. :)

At least last season, she [Samantha] had the amazing expanding mommy-mammaries on prominent display every week. Almost made up for the constant stream of inanities and verbal skid-marks coming out of her mouth. Almost. ;)

Poor Marlee; knew it couldn't last but was still hoping Mario or Cristian would slide into the ejection seat ahead of her. :(

And it looks like Shannon is going all cougar on Derrick, if the tabloid press reports are accurate (wait, did I actually write that? :eek:). Or, most likely, they're inventing it to give this season a jolt of buzz.

At least last season, she [Samantha] had the amazing expanding mommy-mammaries on prominent display every week. Almost made up for the constant stream of inanities and verbal skid-marks coming out of her mouth. Almost. ;)

Nicely put!

The most favorable thing I could say about her is that she has admirably lost all of the pregnancy fat in a short period of time. But even that compliment is tempered by the fact that she was a fitness guru/model previously, so she was already kind of a "pro" at it.

.. if the tabloid press reports are accurate (wait, did I actually write that? :eek:).:D Ah-Haaa! You finally let the cat out of the bag. Now I know where you get your facts. ;) :p But seriously, I think if (all) the judges scored Mario appropriately (penalized for his illegal lift), perhaps Marlee would have made the cut? I hope he's next. By the way, I stopped picking Tubs to get the boot. She's too strong- must be Teflon coated :eek: (or maybe she uses Pam?).

Shannon needs a little less whining and a lot more dancing if she wants to continue playing with her little toy.

Shannon needs a little less whining and a lot more dancing if she wants to continue playing with her little toy.

I was thinking that they will need to rock it out next week after that bit of bashing in the kiss and cry room, which incedentally has horrible color on the camera,

A quick recap - http://www.tv.yahoo.com/show/38356/news/urn:newsml:tv.eonline.com:20080422:ecdcf1512d9c_4b11_b819_09 641080fd5d__ER:20520

it included this nugget.

"And while the weepy Shannon Elizabeth was down to her last nerve, with both she and Derek Hough very visibly—and audibly—frustrated over last night's 24, the leggy (albeit hipless) brunette was able to dry her eyes early after being the first to be declared safe.

(Nice touch, showing Hough's face covered with lipstick marks after the commercial break.)

They were not alone. Marissa was seen making out with a bucket of vanilla ice cream.

(Nice touch, showing ice cream stains on her wig after she plowed through the buffet line)"

I made up the Marissa stuff but ... well...

Finding out that Kristi was born with club feet just raised my respect level for her more than just a few notches. Amazing............

She's definatly loosening up and feeling more comfortable out there without her skates on. It's a one horse race............

Finding out that Kristi was born with club feet just raised my respect level for her more than just a few notches. Amazing............ Yeah.......


that's cool....


and fyi...

Tubs was born with two club sandwiches in her hands.

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:eek: Oh no. That's awful. :o

:D

I wonder if having her husband there has helped Kristi as well as he has had all the time in the world the last 2 weeks since the Hurricanes did not make the Stanley Cup Playoffs this year. ;)

I assume they have just moved out there kids and all for a while, which I would assume is much less for her to worry about.

............

[Kristi's] definatly loosening up and feeling more comfortable out there without her skates on. It's a one horse race............

I'm a little more caustious on that point. She certainly looked more comfortable Monday night, but I think that was probably her peak.

I think the Jive plays to all her strengths, athleticism, speed, perkiness and none of her weaknesses, acting passionate and sexy.

I suspect she'll have a slight letdown next week but I suspect everyone else will have even bigger letdowns with the pressure of learning two dances. It seems that almost everyone this season is slow at picking up the choreography, which means they don't have enough time to polish up all the other stuff.

I'm a little more caustious on that point. She certainly looked more comfortable Monday night, but I think that was probably her peak.

I think the Jive plays to all her strengths, athleticism, speed, perkiness and none of her weaknesses, acting passionate and sexy.

I suspect she'll have a slight letdown next week but I suspect everyone else will have even bigger letdowns with the pressure of learning two dances. It seems that almost everyone this season is slow at picking up the choreography, which means they don't have enough time to polish up all the other stuff.She's a perfectionist. Her skating career was all about adding drama to every performance and movement. I don't think she's going to be challenged by adding more spice. She's got the skillset and she's opening up. I'm not saying she won't stumble, but I see no indications...sh*t happens, so maybe a bad performance, but I'll bet she's the most prepared of all of them.

.. It seems that almost everyone this season is slow at picking up the choreography, which means they don't have enough time to polish up all the other stuff.Agree… In previous seasons many of the stars showed a striking progression. Nothing much has changed with any of these stars. Their dancing skills are similar to the way they started the season with a couple of blips here and there.

If you missed Marlee on Jimmy Kimmel's show, you missed some funny stuff. Marlee wore her DWTS costume to the show (looked good in it! :D) and Brad Garrett was definitely funny is his passes at her and his repartee with Marlee's signing person (who was sitting off camera to the right of Jimmy's desk).

If you missed Marlee on Jimmy Kimmel's show, you missed some funny stuff. Marlee wore her DWTS costume to the show (looked good in it! :D) and Brad Garrett was definitely funny is his passes at her and his repartee with Marlee's signing person (who was sitting off camera to the right of Jimmy's desk).

Pound for pound, Brad Garrett has to be one of the most irritating people in the entertainment business.

His personality helps him when acting, but is a real turnoff when he is being "himself".

It's sad when someone seems desparate for attention, and that what he seems to be - all the time.

I remember when the Raymond cast was making the rounds of the talk shows during their last season. The other cast members looked like they were ready to kill Brad, having to listen to him so much.

Rumors have been running that Jason Taylor may be traded before this Saturday's NFL draft. What kind of effect will this have on him and/or Edyta?

Rumors have been running that Jason Taylor may be traded before this Saturday's NFL draft. What kind of effect will this have on him and/or Edyta?

There is only 4 weeks left, so it shouldn't be that hard for him to keep his contract with the show. April 28/29, May 5/6 12/13 and 19/20 are left.

There is only 4 weeks left, so it shouldn't be that hard for him to keep his contract with the show. April 28/29, May 5/6 12/13 and 19/20 are left.

I think he meant, "how will it affect him mentally?"

I think he meant, "how will it affect him mentally?"He should be ecstatic :D

Ba-bump Bump...

He should be ecstatic :D

That's what I was thinking too. There's only about two other teams that he would probably consider to be worse than the Dolphins at this point, so the upside potential is pretty good. ;)

And as far as voting support, neither Jayson nor the producers have exploited his football career. I suspect a good percentage of viewers don’t even know he’s a Dolphin. If anything, he might pick up some new support from his new home town, if he is traded.

I think he meant, "how will it affect him mentally?"

Oh, lol. :D I wouldn't think it would. I'm sure he can keep his focus fine.

Weekly BUMP.

To those of you who didn't follow the NFL draft this past weekend, Jason Taylor is still a Miami Dolphin. He was offered as part of a trade but it never went through.

One less distraction for Jason to worry about. Now he needs to work on his dancing. I fear he's reaching his maximum level of competence and might soon be voted off, short of making the final three.

(West Coasters who have not yet seen tonight's show can ignore this post.)

The best dancers of the night in my view: Kristi (spectacular waltz and cha-cha), Jason (good quick step, and his paso doble to the Monday Night Football theme brought the house down), and Marissa (always a live wire, and she put on a very good tango and rumba). Shannon also gets some plaudits from me for putting a lot of enthusiasm into her mambo.

I feel so sorry for Cristian, who suffered a severe muscle cramp during his samba. Hopefully he will be OK to dance next week, if he is still alive.

whoa ... I'm in the West, and was just blindly checking in, when I saw SowegaBowler's post. HOW DARE YOU post before midnite ???!!!???

okay ... just kidding. Your post makes me anxious to get the ol DVR on replay (have to wait til House is over).

I really think that the judges have been too generous with Marissa the last two weeks. It's almost as if she is not being held to the same standard as the others. Her dances this week scored very high despite the fact that they were both extremely simple. It was the kind of degree of difficulty you usually see in the first two weeks. In her second dance, her feet were hardly moving. On the other end of the spectrum, Kristi is being held almost to the standard of a pro. There is absolutely no way that Marissa's first dance was better than Kristi's.

What are they going for? A Kristi vs. Tubbi finale? Sad about the injury tonight, but he was second from the bottom after round one.

I feel so sorry for Cristian, who suffered a severe muscle cramp during his samba. Hopefully he will be OK to dance next week, if he is still alive.

Ummm.........I think it may be more than just a muscle cramp. I hope that's all it was.

Marissa's tango was good, not great. Her rumba was a bit stiff IMO. Definitely NOT sexy as was described.

Jason's paso. Awesome, and I would think a bit celebratory considering it was reported that he might be traded and music was appropriate. Channeling Cameron perhaps? Edyta with the hot outfits as usual.

Poor Cristian. Hopefully he comes back.

Kristi was a bit shaky on the first dance, but I feel she did way better on the second.

Good tango by Shannon. Her second routine, I'll have to agree with the judges when they say her movements are "gawky."

Julianne is back for the results show! :D:D

Jason knew by then he was still a Dolphin, so the costuming was appropriate. By the way, no clip showed up on SportsCenter, but be assured that Monday Night Football on ESPN will probably use the clip (or a modified version) for promotional purposes for the upcoming season.

Just be glad it was Jason dancing and not Tirico, Jaworski or :eek: Kornheiser!

Anybody wanna bet that Jason and Edyta's quickstep is the requested encore dance?

Jason knew by then he was still a Dolphin, so the costuming was appropriate. ...Yes, I also noticed their costumes were in the colors of the Dolphins!

The best dancers of the night in my view: Kristi (spectacular waltz and cha-cha), Jason (good quick step, and his paso doble to the Monday Night Football theme brought the house down...Well :rolleyes: after I made a point, last week, that they haven’t exploited Jayson’s football image—boy oh boy they certainly did it yesterday. That was great. Who could have ever imagined that song on this show? The most recognized, testosterone associated jingle of all time-- as a Pasa Doblay?? And he made it work.

Another point I made last week, which has also been squashed. Finally, some of the dancers took it to the next level. I think Kristi right now is better than any dancer from any season.

I feel so sorry for Cristian, who suffered a severe muscle cramp during his samba. Hopefully he will be OK to dance next week, if he is still alive.It looked like it hurt like a motherbadworder, but I don't think it was life-threatening.

Finally, some of the dancers took it to the next level. I think Kristi right now is better than any dancer from any season.

She is very good, and easily the class of this "competition" as many of us said she would be since the moment this season's cast was announced, but just to mention two from each gender that are easily her equal (at least), I nominate either Stacy Keibler or Sabrina Bryan for the gals and either Mario Lopez or Drew Lachey for the guys.

It looked like it hurt like a motherbadworder, but I don't think it was life-threatening.I have no idea how severe it was, and yes it did look like serious pain, but my guess is that he jumped into a major weight training program, especially doing curls. All of a sudden this skinny little soap star has biceps like the Govenator? I think vanity is driving some of these guys to injury.

It looked like it hurt like a motherbadworder, but I don't think it was life-threatening.

It was likely just a cramp since he wasn't doing anything that could possibly have torn, or even pulled a biceps muscle (excepting maybe, see comment below). And Derek calls the paramedics and gets hauled out on a stretcher because he pinches a nerve in his neck. We'll have to have a run-off between those two to see who's the bigger wuss. :rolleyes:

Jason Taylor has to be laughing his butt off at those guys, considering what football players go through on a weekly basis. :p

All of a sudden this skinny little soap star has biceps like the Govenator? I think vanity is driving some of these guys to injury.

More likely 'roids along with a helping of HGH. It's all the "rage" now in H-wood among the actor and rapper set. Gotta' look the part, man. ;)

I found it funny how they were praising him for “hanging in there with Cheryl” during his breakdown. He almost let her head plop on the floor. He was so out of there. If anything it looked (to me) like it was Cheryl who wasn’t going to let anything shy of a gun shot wound to his head stop her from dancing.

It was likely just a cramp since he wasn't doing anything that could possibly have torn, or even pulled a biceps muscle (excepting maybe, see comment below).

The first thing that I thought of, especially his serious reaction to the pain, was a possible blood clot. Hope not though.

To those of you who constantly rag on Marissa: If you want to critique her dancing, fine. But this ongoing focus on her weight and the Tubbs, Chubbs, etc. is a bit much. I'd like to see any of you (or any of the other contestants for that matter), haul your tail onto a Broadway stage eight times a week, in very demanding role, for over a year and walk off with a Tony Award. Lets also not forget that when Hairspray was being created she was diagnosed with Cervical Cancer but soldiered on and continued to work until she finally needed sugery. I would think that she deserves some degree of respect for her accomplishments even if she can be a bit over bubbly at times.

The one other thing that I really like about Kristi is how she thrives on competition. I really do believe that she would prefer if some other couple was breathing down her neck rather than being soooooo far out in front. No doubt that she likes to win, but I do believe that she really enjoys the challenge of it even more than the net result.

It's just fun seeing someone who is THAT competitive.

The one other thing that I really like about Kristi is how she thrives on competition. I really do believe that she would prefer if some other couple was breathing down her neck rather than being soooooo far out in front. No doubt that she likes to win, but I do believe that she really enjoys the challenge of it even more than the net result.

It's just fun seeing someone who is THAT competitive.

Agreed. If Kristi really feels threatened I'm sure that she'll kick into that other worldly "the Gold Medal is mine" gear and really burn it up. The only thing to worry about is whether the judges go out of their way to nitpick her performances in order to juice up the competition aspect.

To those of you who constantly rag on Marissa: ... is a bit much..But it’s funny!:D

Hey, I’ll give her credit for hanging in there this long.

She started out as an amusing side show but that got stale fast with her persistent whining and apparent lack of practicing. Since she is a performer I expected more from her. I do think she’s finally putting some effort into her dancing. But she’s still annoying. I could say the same about Shannon but she is eye candy whereas the "other one" eats too much candy. :D

The judging from what I've seen over the last couple of years gets pretty inconsistent over the next 2 weeks. They critique the better dancers on a much harder scale in order to equalize their numbers and let the fans have more weight. They will be overly critical of outstanding routines and generous with the weaker. Kristi should have had a 28/30 last night...Jason a 30/27 (for the lift). Cristian's first dance should have scored higher. Marissa was given two gift scores. Her tango was decent, but fairly simple and the mamba was hard to watch...just nothing there. Shannon's scores were about right, but they were obviously trying to soothe her feelings on the tango evaluation. Mario gets decent scores, but must not be pulling much audience support.

I appreciate that Kristi and Jason are letting it all hang out. Both are competing like the pro athelete's they are. However, Kristi can do things that are amazing for an amateur and showbiz is growing on her.

Agreed. If Kristi really feels threatened I'm sure that she'll kick into that other worldly "the Gold Medal is mine" gear and really burn it up.

Well said. I'd LOVE to see that happen.

...okay ... just kidding. Your post makes me anxious to get the ol DVR on replay (have to wait til House is over).

Ooh Oooo! They ran 7 minutes over last night, I'll bet you missed the end of Jason's dance. :(

Yes, I also noticed their costumes were in the colors of the Dolphins!

Yeah, but did anyone else notice that Edya had a dolphin c*m target at the base of her spine? :D


BTW, kudos to the costumer. Lot's of great gowns last night. Both of Kristi's and Edyta's and Shannon's were smoking. The latin one of Shannon's sure did a great job of showing off her rack. :D And I think Shannon is actually starting to develop a little bit of a waist. It seems that all the core muscle workout is making her a little bit more hour glass shaped.

Oh, I really liked Samantha's dress too.

BTW, kudos to the costumer. Lot's of great gowns last night. Both of Kristi's and Edyta's and Shannon's were smoking.

I've always thought that Kristi was "cute" but never more than that. But her look on this show and the amazing costumes that she's being poured into have led me to revise that opinion. The woman is blazing and I'll bet that her hubby Brett is sitting there thinking that this was the best decision in his life by 10!

The woman is blazing and I'll bet that her hubby Brett is sitting there thinking that this was the best decision in his life by 10!
:D:D:D

My thoughts exactly...I'll bet she's pregnant again very soon.

Yup. She's not only thriving on the competition, but also thriving on getting her body back into Gold Medal (or close to it) shape.

When the show cuts to the workouts in the dance studio, her focus, concentration and intensity stands way above the rest. I imagine that for her, her biggest obstacle is not dancing without skates, but that when it comes time to perform, that her focus and intensity doesn't interfere with her having fun, but from what I have seen, it seems that she has attacked that hurdle as well as many of the other challenges that she has faced.

Ooh Oooo! They ran 7 minutes over last night, I'll bet you missed the end of Jason's dance. :(TitanTV showed it scheduled to go 8 min over and it went exactly that.

Just wondering if yesterday during Mario and Karina's rehearsal footage anyone saw on a chalkboard in the background Mario (hearts) Karina. No hint of any thing there... Poopy!

Bye Bye Shannon & Derek ... was it the fake hiney or just cause she was whiney?

she is eye candy whereas the "other one" eats too much candy. :DCandy eating wins. No prosthetics required.

Cristian has survived for another week, but that arm is going to be a problem. What if, during practice, he further injures it, requiring immediate surgery? Is he out or does he soldier on with Cheryl with just one arm?

Does that mean "Uh, Derek and Shannon, about that being eliminated thing? Never mind."

By the way, did anyone notice that, with that new do', Samantha Harris was more beautiful than we've seen in the past?

To those of you who constantly rag on Marissa: If you want to critique her dancing, fine. But this ongoing focus on her weight and the Tubbs, Chubbs, etc. is a bit much. I'd like to see any of you (or any of the other contestants for that matter), haul your tail onto a Broadway stage eight times a week, in very demanding role, for over a year and walk off with a Tony Award. Lets also not forget that when Hairspray was being created she was diagnosed with Cervical Cancer but soldiered on and continued to work until she finally needed sugery. I would think that she deserves some degree of respect for her accomplishments even if she can be a bit over bubbly at times.

I agree some go a bit too far but, for the most part, it's all in good fun. Heck, she's parlayed that "tubby" body into a pretty good stage presence, and I think her attitude is great: she just seems thrilled to get a 9.

I've about given up trying to judge these competitions: just glancing at the postings in this thread shows that 10 different people can have 10 different opinions about one performance.

For example, except for the first week I though Mario performed far better than the judges gave him credit for and Jason's QS last night was one of the best I've ever seen on that show. I thought his Paso pretty well stunk, however. I also felt the judges gave Marlee much too much slack. Kristi, well, can't disagree about Kristi. :)

It's pretty clear to me, however, that DWTS is morphing from a dance competition with celebrities into a variety show with judges. We'll see how long it lasts (House should prove to be stiff competition).

Candy eating wins. No prosthetics required.


Pumba stays while hottie goes home. IMO hottie's dances were much better. Guess that's why I'm not a judge.

What's with Sam's hair? When I first saw her, I thought it made her look hot. But then it just started to look like she drove over with her head out the window.

Shannon's out. Bah, humbug. Just when she finally figured out what kind of costumes she ought to be wearing. :mad:

Didn't Kenny Mayne look so cute during DanceCenter? :D :D (Good Grief, that bit is getting ridiculous - ridiculous, but funny!)

And I think that Jerry Rice has decided to go the sparkly route. Check out the stuff on his eyelids when he winks!

Does anyone think that the show runners are going to have to start thinking about tweaking the lineup in the future? We're pretty much looking at (barring any unforeseen changes) a Jason vs. Kristi final (football vs. ice skating) - another sports-based celebrity winner, making it four seasons in a row. The last acting-type winner was Drew Lachey, back in season 2.

Any future celebrities (I'm talking the acting type) who have been contacted to join the series in the future (and really want to win it) may think twice, based on previous seasons. I mean, what's the point of doing it, going for the gold, knowing you don't have a chance because a sports-based celebrity on the show knows how to go into a training regimen during the practices (just like they were in their competitive days - "are" in the case of Jason Taylor).

Yes, I know that some are just in for the fun of it and trying something new, but people are people and many are quite competitive, but they just don't have the background of doing something like this (and it is a lot harder and more demanding than it looks - ask Vincent Pastore!)

I think the Celeb's are in it for a career boost

Its pretty obvious Derek and Shonno are a pair. I didn't thnk Shannon seemed upset at all she was voted off.

The word lately, is, er, "bumb"

Its pretty obvious Derek and Shonno are a pair. I didn't thnk Shannon seemed upset at all she was voted off.

The word lately, is, er, "bumb"

If a romance between 22 year old Derek and 34 year old Shannon actually exists, I would expect it to last about 5 minutes after the two stop dancing together. In other words, it's already as over as Katrina and Mario Lopez, and who amongst us wasn't devastated by that tragic news? ;)

And I believe the British slang for butt is spelled "bum".

'Dancing with the Stars' Karina Smirnoff and Mario Lopez deny split"



http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/dancing-with-stars-karina-smirnoff-and-mario-lopez-deny-split-7026.php

I think the Celeb's are in it for a career boost

The actual title of DWTS is Dancing with the Used to Be and Wanna Be Stars, but it doesn't fit very well on the screen so they use the shortened version.

Just wondering if yesterday during Mario and Karina's rehearsal footage anyone saw on a chalkboard in the background Mario (hearts) Karina. No hint of any thing there... Poopy!

Missed that. But considering davemcs' post, you have to wonder which Mario that it refers to. ;)

Def Leopard was an unusual choice for a ballroom setting, although the leather fit well.

Def Leopard was an unusual choice for a ballroom setting, although the leather fit well.
They sounded dam good, I thought. Take it from someone who rocked in the 80s, these guys are still good!

Yeah they did...........darn good, especially being that they still have a one handed drummer.

I am not too surprised by Shannon's exit; though she did hit her stride this week, it was too little too late.

OTOH, I am a bit surprised by Marissa landing in the bottom two, given that she had a couple of decent routines on Tuesday. I think she is the only one left who can give Kristi and Jason a run for their money (with Cristian injured and Mario still so-so).

I did not notice Samantha had a new 'do; maybe I will watch a little more carefully next week.

Dance Center certainly raised the humor sophistication level with fart jokes. I had to double check it wasn't Howard TV.

OTOH, I am a bit surprised by Marissa landing in the bottom two, given that she had a couple of decent routines on Tuesday. I think she is the only one left who can give Kristi and Jason a run for their money (with Cristian injured and Mario still so-so).
I know Marissa has some fans, but I'm not one of them. Her routines are simple compared to the other contestants, her steps slower because she is not as skilled. She's improved to a point, but her high scores are obvious compensation on the judges part...she's not being graded on the same scale. Shannon couldn't have won it, but she should have stayed. IMO, Marissa's fanbase covers a large DWTS demographic. Both the show and those fans want her in. In real world competition, she'd be long gone.

Dance Center certainly raised the humor sophistication level with fart jokes. I had to double check it wasn't Howard TV.:D Yeah they stuck their arm into the “easy jokes” bag for the giggles.

The segment has some good yucks but I can’t get past the makeup thing. I don’t see the humor in dudes wearing glitter. And yes, there is something wrong with that. Glitter belongs on a scantly clad chick that’s got one hand on a pole.

I miss Jimmy Kimmel and Guillermo. Their stuff was hysterical.

By the way, if you go back and look at our "pre show" picks and "after first dance" picks- I’m sitting pretty good ;) with my trifectas. Now if I can only transfer my dancing with stars handicapping to this weekends running for the roses—the first Saturday in May—Derby day. By the way, OT tip, just in case you want to know who’s going to win the derby—Colonel John, at the wire, in front. :cool:

They sounded dam good, I thought. Take it from someone who rocked in the 80s, these guys are still good!

Pour Some Sugar on Me sounded good... because it was lip synched. I'd never heard the second song so I can't comment on that one.

Yes, bring back Jimmy and Guillermo.

Was completely wowed by Samantha's big hair and it did make her look hot. All she needed to add to that was show off the twins a bit.t

I took a look at my early picks and only 2 are remaining with shaky chances, Cristian and Mario.

I took a look at my early picks and only 2 are remaining with shaky chances, Cristian and Mario.

:eek: If you didn't pick Kristi right off the bat you shouldn't be watching this show. ;)

I had Kristi and Cristian for my pre-season pick, so I still have an outside chance of getting both right. But it's looking a lot more like Kristi, Jason and Mario in the finals at this point.

Does anyone think that the show runners are going to have to start thinking about tweaking the lineup in the future? We're pretty much looking at (barring any unforeseen changes) a Jason vs. Kristi final (football vs. ice skating) - another sports-based celebrity winner, making it four seasons in a row. The last acting-type winner was Drew Lachey, back in season 2.


I'm not sure what they could do even if they wanted to. Pro athletes certainly have some advantages. They generally be in better shape and thus not have to take as many breaks. And they're used to have coaches yell at them and tell them everything they're doing wrong. And most pros will have good coordination and balance. They also seem to have better fan support than the actors.

But then there's also Monica Seles. So it doesn't always turn out to be true.




Does
Any future celebrities (I'm talking the acting type) who have been contacted to join the series in the future (and really want to win it) may think twice, based on previous seasons. I mean, what's the point of doing it, going for the gold, knowing you don't have a chance because a sports-based celebrity on the show knows how to go into a training regimen during the practices (just like they were in their competitive days - "are" in the case of Jason Taylor).

Yes, I know that some are just in for the fun of it and trying something new, but people are people and many are quite competitive, but they just don't have the background of doing something like this (and it is a lot harder and more demanding than it looks - ask Vincent Pastore!)

As others have said, I think most of them do it for the exposure. There aren't many places where 20 million people are going to see you for several weeks in a row. There's already huge buzz about all the broadcasting opportunities that Jason will have when he retires from football. Great looks, great baritone voice and very articulate. DWTS has ensured that he'll be making top bucks somewhere in the future.

I said before that the best attitude for contestants on this show is to look at it like as "Fantasy Dance Camp" similar to those fantasy baseball camps where middle agee men get to play ball with some semi-famous pros. Sure there's a few games and everyone wants to win, but the real draw is to hang out with the pros.

I didn’t care much for Marissa’s dress during her first dance (Fox Trot) to NY NY.

That grey. :eek:

It reminded me of the Disney flick Fantasia.
ABC is back at it, :rolleyes: doing that cross-promotional hype again. :p






By the way,




Tony seemed to be ok with the lift.


:D


http://members.aol.com/HippoPage/images/fantasia.jpg


She was OK but she's definitely the weakest performer.

The judges were harsh on Krsti, again, and too nice to Christian.

Here’s my take. My conspiracy theory—I think that Christian gets little support from the fan base and Marissa has the phones burning up at Fatburgers.

The judges are doing their own little “operation chaos” ;) manipulating the outcome.

She was OK but she's definitely the weakest performer.http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8156/tubby2jl4.jpg
She's light on her feet.

That's funny ^

Tubby the Tuba !!:D:D

What was with the performances during the Latin round tonight? It looks like many of them have "hit the wall" and can't (or aren't) pushing themselves to the limit. It is the quarterfinals, you know!

What was with Jason & Edyta's samba? That music was most un-samba-like in terms of tempo and style. Oh yeah, Edyta looked hot as usual, but that dance was not up to their usual standards.

And they get a 7? A 7???? Oh, those two are going to need all the audience vote help they can get.

But the surprise of the night? Holy frak! What a job by Christian and Cheryl!!! Christian's bad arm was not a factor at all tonight, in either dance. And now, they're in uncharted waters for them...first place on the Judges leader board!

Can things get any more bizarre?

Can things get any more bizarre?

Clearly the results reflect business as much as "bizarre". Kristy was running away with the competition and the rest of the season was in danger of losing viewers due to the lack of a legit challenger.

The judges may be well trained in dance, but not such good actors. Even they had trouble coming up with reasons to equalize the scores and make things seem more competitive.

Christian did a great job in his 1st dance last night, hiding his injury very well and delivering solid content. The tricks ran out in the last dance, where his lack of use of the arm was very evident throughout the dance.

Scores defied what happened on the floor.

This is all about ratings and that's what the scores represent.

Gotta agree with the comment that Christian's scores seemed high ... good effort but 1st place?

I thought Kristi's second dance was quite good ... a bit frenetic, but definitely an effort to try something out of the "safe zone."

Guessing Marissa says goodbye tonight.

Mario is the bottom on DialIdol. There could be a surprise tonight.

Pumba must go!:eek:

Why are we being subjected to her? I don't see where her dancing is even close to the rest of them.

... Why are we being subjected to her? I don't see where her dancing is even close to the rest of them.Diversity and to increase viewer interest amongst those of like size and shape! :confused: :rolleyes: :mad:

Diversity and to increase viewer interest amongst those of like size and shape! :confused: :rolleyes: :mad:

I am of like size and shape. (but a little taller:cool:) But who the h.ll would want to see me try to dance?

I am of like size and shape. (but a little taller:cool:) But who the h.ll would want to see me try to dance?:D
That’s funny.

I think it’s not the folks who are of like size and shape supporting her. It’s the folks of any size and shape who like ‘em short, round and plump. :cool: They are the ones voting for her.

By the way, I hate to ask this question but Mac, do you have an early screen caps of Tubs that you can contrast with her from yesterday? My wife is swearing that she dropped a ton. I think she piled more on. Settle the argument. :p

What was with Jason & Edyta's samba? That music was most un-samba-like in terms of tempo and style. Oh yeah, Edyta looked hot as usual, but that dance was not up to their usual standards.

And they get a 7? A 7???? Oh, those two are going to need all the audience vote help they can get.
I, too, thought Jason's dances were not completely up to par. Unless he gets a lot of votes from NFL fans, I would not be too surprised to see him go.

But the surprise of the night? Holy frak! What a job by Christian and Cheryl!!! Christian's bad arm was not a factor at all tonight, in either dance. And now, they're in uncharted waters for them...first place on the Judges leader board!

Cristian certainly did very well for dancing with one arm. He may end up getting a lot of "sympathy votes."

I thought Kristi's second dance was quite good ... a bit frenetic, but definitely an effort to try something out of the "safe zone."
Kristi did an admirable job on her quick step, but her samba was definitely the bomb. I was especially wowed by her sit-spin!

Guessing Marissa says goodbye tonight.
She may not be the best technical dancer among those remaining, but I like her because of her work ethic and bubbly personality, so I hope she stays at least another week.

Mario is the bottom on DialIdol. There could be a surprise tonight.
I thought Mario did not do too bad, but still not as good as Cristian or Kristi. I should point out that DialIdol is not always perfect; as has been discussed on the Idol thread, it did not foresee Michael Johns (one of the most entertaining performers I have ever seen) being eliminated from AI four weeks ago. Then again, IMO such unofficial tracking sites are usually insignificant and have a negligible effect on the actual viewer vote.

All in all, last night's ballroom round was OK, but the Latin round was, as Dan Patrick would say, en fuego.

I should point out that tonight's show begins at 8 p.m. Eastern/Pacific; it is DWTS' 100th episode and will feature the judges' 10 favorite dances from the series, as well as performances by the usual cavalcade of stars and, of course, the results from last night. My plans are to watch Idol tonight and switch to DWTS after AI is over.

... I should point out that tonight's show begins at 8 p.m. Eastern/Pacific; it is DWTS' 100th episode and will feature the judges' 10 favorite dances from the series, as well as performances by the usual cavalcade of stars and, of course, the results from last night. ...FWIW, my programming guide lists them as two separate shows. The 10 favs at 8.0 pm and the results at 9.00 pm. As I say, just what my guide (Comcast) is showing.

I should point out that tonight's show begins at 8 p.m. Eastern/Pacific; it is DWTS' 100th episode and will feature the judges' 10 favorite dances from the series, as well as performances by the usual cavalcade of stars and, of course, the results from last night...

I caught just a bit of a commercial for the 100th episode show and it showed Wayne Newton dancing. I wasn't quick enough to catch anything else (and it wasn't worth backing up and replaying) but if Wayne has a top 10 dance, somebody paid off the judges. :mad:

I would think Kelly Monaco will dance, at the least on clips if not live.

Even though I picked Cristian, I have to say he didn't deserve those scores. I have to agree with LL3HD that the judges are trying to ensure that Marissa gets the ax tonight.

Last night was the first time that Kristie looked vunerable, although IMHO, it was due to her doing a much higher level of difficulty than all the others competitors. Mark needs to tone down the difficult level a little bit and make certain that Kristie looks a lot better than the others.

And boy is the costumer on a hitting streak. All the women's costumes (excluding Marissa) have been 10's for the last two weeks.

LL3HD: All dig up some before and after caps of Marissa.

As a guilty pleasure, I swung by the ABC DTWS site and viewed the message board. There seems to be a bunch of total bonzos fanning plenty of flames, but a few people who really know there stuff.

One thing of interest was this youtube video showing Kristi's latin dance last night with different music. Consensus was that she wasn't off. Had the music been better suited, her dance and scores would be better. It's a little rough, but I can see what they mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddLKQs2DILo

Julianne and Apolo's routine with her in the body hugging tiger print outfit has to rank high in the top 10, if not #1. Something with Stacy or Kelly will suffice as well

Maybe the top 10 has 5 perfect performances as well as 5 entertaining and memorable. Jerry Springer and Edyta comes to mind, as well as Jerry Rice and Anna with the Afro wigs.

You hit it on point about the women's costumes Mac. Edyta's sheer black number... wow.

If Kelly dances, that's one for the divver so we can rewind, pause, screencap.

LL3HD I may have to agree with your wife. Marissa seems to have dropped a few libs, not that I have been noticing...:rolleyes: :D

I thought Mario did not do too bad, but still not as good as Cristian or Kristi. I should point out that DialIdol is not always perfect; as has been discussed on the Idol thread
On the other hand they have been known to be correct ;)

Well congrats to DialIdol, they got it right. Mario. Gone.

When they announced that Marissa was safe (Kristi was a no-brainer), I thought, Oh no, Jason & Edyta are done...

The percentages between first and last wasn't that much...

Cristian - 28+29 = 57/300 = 19 per cent

Marissa - 25+25 = 50/300 = 16.666 percent

Technically, less than 3 percentage points between first and last place. So she must have really scored high on audience percentage.

I guess Mario's fan base finally gave up.

It appears that while Mario's fan base narrowed, Marissa's base remains wide.

Marrisa's base remains wide.

:D

I didn't watch or record the clip show preceding the results show. How was it? Did they show any hot Stacy Keibler action? (I actually had a Stacy sighting in a new Nike commercial the other day - it was just a brief bit, but she said the shoes could make you a better dancer. LOL!)

Pumba lives! :eek:

Oh the torture.

I didn't watch or record the clip show preceding the results show. How was it? Did they show any hot Stacy Keibler action?
Yes.

It was probably their best non competitive dance show. The format they went with was showing the perfect "30" score dances from all of the seasons. Seeing the stars and professionals over the last 5 years in their clips was entertaining, even though we already saw them.

It was definitely very nice :cool: watching once again the dances by Kelly and Stacey. Kelly and that dress malfunction and Stacey the real life giant Barbie doll. ;)

All of the key stars were in attendance.

Even though Stacey didn’t win that season, we (she) never got cheated. She was there until the finals. Sabrina, on the other hand, got booted too early for some, but for me, after watching her dance again, well, I’ll just say, I didn’t mind her early exit.

Pumba lives! :eek:

Oh the torture.

For those folks who keep saying "Pumba??
I understand Tubs,
or Tubby the Tuba,
or the dancing hippos from Fantasia,
or the Great White Whale (I mean Way)...etc. ...
but Pumba?"


Well here is Pumba (and her partner)... you decide.... ;)



http://www.dvdtown.dk/images/edit/pumba.jpg

http://www.dvdtown.dk/images/edit/pumba.jpg

Oh man...

The little guy even looks a little like Tony!

:D
That’s funny.

By the way, I hate to ask this question but Mac, do you have an early screen caps of Tubs that you can contrast with her from yesterday? My wife is swearing that she dropped a ton. I think she piled more on. Settle the argument. :p

I think she looks smaller now than in her footage from the Opening Montage.


I have to say that Maks is the best of the male dancers. He looked so much more crisp than the rest of the guys last night.

For those folks who keep saying "Pumba??
I understand Tubs,
or Tubby the Tuba,
or the dancing hippos from Fantasia,
or the Great White Whale (I mean Way)...etc. ...
but Pumba?"


Well here is Pumba (and her partner)... you decide.... ;)



http://www.dvdtown.dk/images/edit/pumba.jpg

Pumba did a dance at the end of the movie to distract the hyenas. I can see Marissa doing that dance clearly in my head. (partner or not)


IIIIIII'mmmmmmmmmmmm bacon!...............

Using "Pumba" as a comparison is fairly insulting

... to Pumba.

I'm not terribly fond of Marissa, her screeching annoys me, but some of these insults are waaaay over the top. It's interesting that fat people are the only ones left in American society that it seems to be socially acceptable to insult and marginalize. Can't imagine anyone throwing such vitriol out at somebody who's disabled, maybe missing a leg.... oops, bad example. :rolleyes:

I'd forgotten how good Kelly looked in those outfits. :eek:

It reminded me of how I got hooked on this show. :D

Actually, I was a bit surprised when Marissa was kept and Mario booted ...

Now, I have nothing against Marissa (well to be honest, I am not a fan of hers) ... but I thought that Mario showed far more talent than she did. It seems to me that either her fan base is larger/more active or that the show has the undocumented option for "expedient manipulation" for strategic viewing potential. <totally my speculation with no evidence to back it>

Sam

I'm not terribly fond of Marissa, her screeching annoys me, but some of these insults are waaaay over the top. It's interesting that fat people are the only ones left in American society that it seems to be socially acceptable to insult and marginalize. Can't imagine anyone throwing such vitriol out at somebody who's disabled, maybe missing a leg.... oops, bad example. :rolleyes:

Don't forget southerners, "rednecks," and members of certain political parties (pick your own).

... fat people are the only ones left in American society that it seems to be socially acceptable to insult and marginalize. Vitriol? Oh come on now Archie. This is coming from you, a fan of Bill Maher, you are still a fan of his? I think your “open season list” is skewed with a degree of tunnel vision. You should add to your list Catholics, Mormons, Conservatives, and…. Well ... I’ll leave it that. I prefer to chuckle rather than argue.

I'd forgotten how good Kelly looked in those outfits. :eek:

It reminded me of how I got hooked on this show. :D:cool: Yes. I’ll never forget walking into the living room the first night it aired. My wife wanted me to sit down and watch the show with her. I said, “No way, you’ve got to be kidding me, I’m not watching this crap.” And then I saw Kelly dance. ;) “Ok, I’ll give it a shot. And by the way, she’s going to win.” :cool:

Vitriol? Oh come on now Archie. This is coming from you, a fan of Bill Maher, you are still a fan of his?

You know I loves me some Bill, Larry; the man speaks the gospel truth in a country that sorely needs to hear it. But I'm leaving political figures out of that equation since it's basically always open season on them (and they "sign up" for it). Just something I noticed about Marissa, seemed to be a little "piling on" happening with her that seems a bit mean-spirited. Maybe she has a thyroid problem or something and can't help it. Maybe she just likes cheeseburgers. But I don't think she really deserves all the hatin' goin' on about her that's due solely to her weight. I'm not the first person to notice it or comment on it in this thread. Me, I dislike her because she's...well... insufferable, not because she's stuffed. :p

Dancing, by nature, is something that SHOULD be pleasing to the eye, and seeing Marissa's legs from ankle to upper thigh is NOT pleasing to the eye, at least to those of us who don't partake in that particular fetish.

She's not getting votes because she is a great dancer. What she IS getting is the sympathy and the empathy votes.

But I'm leaving political figures out of that equation That’s part of my point. Who said anything about politicians?

I dislike her because she's...well... insufferable, not because she's stuffed. :p I think all of us who dislike her feel this way but some of us (me) chose the easy (cheap) route. ;)

But I don't think she really deserves all the hatin' goin' on about her that's due solely to her weight. I'm not the first person to notice it or comment on it in this thread. Me, I dislike her because she's...well... insufferable, not because she's stuffed. :p

I think most everyone dislikes her for that reason but choose to poke fun at other aspects of her appearance. I'll use an example that I'm certain you'll agree with: some people say GWB looks like a "chimp," well some people most likely don't dislike him *because* he looks like a "chimp" but that's still a funny (to some) thing to poke at.

That’s part of my point. Who said anything about politicians?



Well, you did actually when you brought up Bill, I thought. Politicians are his prime prey, of course, but he goes after everybody at some point. Even Catholics, Mormons and Conservatives. ;) He did ask the panel one time, though, why it's okay to make fun of fat people. An interesting discussion ensued Larry, you woulda' loved it. :)

...some people say GWB looks like a "chimp," well some people most likely don't dislike him *because* he looks like a "chimp" but that's still a funny (to some) thing to poke at.

Yeah, but he's a politician, so it's okay to make fun of him in all sorts of ways. They voluntarily sign up for it; goes with the territory. Yet nobody makes fun of politicians because of their weight, and many of them are kinda' portly to say the least. Ears, yeah. Nose, sure. Hair, you bet. Those are the features that editorial cartoonists seize upon to create an identifiable character. But they usually don't focus on the weight. Although, as I recall, Janet Reno was made fun of for her sheer size - that was a big, honkin' woman.

Getting off the political talk and back on topic...

Although IMO Jason fared the worst on Monday (and even he was far from bad), I was not too surprised by Mario's exit. He was good, but not Helio Castroneves good.

Kristi's still my pick to win this one; all she needs to do is keep in step with the dance and not try too hard (although her samba on Monday was dazzling). I am also happy that Marissa is staying; call me crazy, but she just continues to grow on me.

I am also happy that Marissa is staying; call me crazy, but she just continues to grow on me.You're crazy :p ...you'd better have that growth looked at.

Well, you did actually when you brought up Bill, I thought. Politicians are his prime prey, of course, but he goes after everybody at some point. Even Catholics, Mormons and Conservatives. ;) He did ask the panel one time, though, why it's okay to make fun of fat people. An interesting discussion ensued Larry, you woulda' loved it. :)Sorry Sowega, :) bear with me one for a moment, and by the way, where have you been?

Archie, you are the one tying in the politicians. Of course Bill’s main course is gnawing on politicians but he will chew up anything news worthy (just like John Stewart, who I think is funnier). I’m referring to Bill’s general wry humor, specifically aimed towards those that didn’t “sign up for it.”

Sure it’s a little rude and mean spirited picking on Marissa but we’re (I’m) just having some fun. ;) But I have to question-- for you-- to personally take offense at this, when I would think that you are laughing at things far more hurtful from a Bill Maher? :confused: You rationalize Maher by saying it’s fair game. Well I guess it’s as they say, it’s all relative. :cool:

OK, back to topic… I’m happy with the way the season is panning out. It will be an entertaining semi-finals.

And I have to say, I was critical of Mario, (I thought he was too much of a punk throughout the season) but he sure fooled me, I thought his exit was extremely impressive, mature and commendable.

Sorry Sowega, :) bear with me one for a moment, and by the way, where have you been?...

OK, back to topic… I’m happy with the way the season is panning out. It will be an entertaining semi-finals.

And I have to say, I was critical of Mario, (I thought he was too much of a punk throughout the season) but he sure fooled me, I thought his exit was extremely impressive, mature and commendable.
I have been where I always have been, Larry; I have been so busy of late (and also recovering from a virus) that I have not posted until now.

Yes, it should be entertaining next week; we have two athletes (Kristi and Jason) who have become excellent dancers; we have Cristian, who can do a mean one-armed mambo; and we have the live wire Marissa, who gives a lot of comic relief.

I, too, thought Mario showed a lot of class on his exit.

Yeah, but he's a politician, so it's okay to make fun of him in all sorts of ways. They voluntarily sign up for it; goes with the territory. Yet nobody makes fun of politicians because of their weight, and many of them are kinda' portly to say the least. Ears, yeah. Nose, sure. Hair, you bet. Those are the features that editorial cartoonists seize upon to create an identifiable character. But they usually don't focus on the weight. Although, as I recall, Janet Reno was made fun of for her sheer size - that was a big, honkin' woman.

Are you kidding? Do you really think GWB would be "off limits" if he was "heavy?"

And, last I could tell, it appears that Marissa (and all the others) "signed up" for this too. Nobody was forcing them to do DWTS. ;)

Are you kidding? Do you really think GWB would be "off limits" if he was "heavy?"



Just that they wouldn't make fun of it if that were his "defining feature" rather than his ears. For some reason, girth seems to be off limits for those people. But, in general, it's okay to make fun of fat people these days. It's one of the last holdouts in a politically correct age, seems to me, and some of the comments about Marissa seemed unnecessarily harsh. That's all I was trying to say (and clearly didn't say it very well....).

That said, to get back on topic, Marissa just wasn't very good the other night, regardless of her girth. She should have left instead of Mario, IMO. But this is DWTS we're talking about. The results often make no sense.

But this is DWTS we're talking about. The results often make no sense.

Truer words never spoken.

An overweight politician would not be news. But an overweight dancer? Now that's something to talk about.

I had some trouble finding before and after caps of Marissa. Everything is framed different, lit different, different costumes, etc,etc,etc. making it hard to get two shots that can legitimately be used for a comparision. That being said, here's the best I could do.


BEFORE:

http://thumbnails5.imagebam.com/605/43c9866046295.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/43c9866046295)

AFTER:

http://thumbnails5.imagebam.com/605/b76ef46046297.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/b76ef46046297)


IMHO, she's lost a little bit, but nothing dramatic. It's really hard to tell because the costumer does a really good job of hiding things.

BTW, I almost forgot to mention that I saw Ashley Delgrosso in the pro group dance on Tuesday night. I wonder if they're setting the stage for her (re-) taking Julianne's spot next season.

[ed: She looked good too. I think she might actually be thinner than she was before the baby.]

Marissa should be gone this week leaving the last week for a three way with Cristián, Kristi, and Jason, or would that be a six way?

^^^^

Let's hope that's the case. Or perhaps my pick, Cristian, should be put down since he's crippled now. But anything else would be a really bad upset.

2nd week with a hot outfit for both Kristi and Edyta. Kristi's backless, low cut number, hot. Edyta's 2 piece, hot and above par for the course for her IMO.

Jason and Edyta did a lift during their paso doble and weren't called on it.

Marissa is definitely out this week. :(:rolleyes:

Not much love for DWTS (not much posting about last nite's show)... are people finding our final four rather boring?

I do like Kristi and Jason, but still think Christian is getting a bit of excessive praise. Marissa ... she's put up a good fight, but time to go (and why was CaryAnn (sp?) so mean to her last night ... that will probably work in her favor to garner more fan votes.

Not much love for DWTS (not much posting about last nite's show)... are people finding our final four rather boring?

I do like Kristi and Jason, but still think Christian is getting a bit of excessive praise. Marissa ... she's put up a good fight, but time to go (and why was CaryAnn (sp?) so mean to her last night ... that will probably work in her favor to garner more fan votes.
I think the field this year is allot less interesting than past years. This has been my feeling all along.

Not much love for DWTS (not much posting about last nite's show)... are people finding our final four rather boring?

I do like Kristi and Jason, but still think Christian is getting a bit of excessive praise. Marissa ... she's put up a good fight, but time to go (and why was CaryAnn (sp?) so mean to her last night ... that will probably work in her favor to garner more fan votes.I actually felt that Christian’s performances last night were his best. He was very smooth and confident. But it wasn’t great. He was still the third best.

I don’t think much about Carrie Ann :rolleyes: and her emotional “you go girl” style of judging but she was right about Tubs. This is the semi-finals. However, I tend to agree this could garner more votes for her. But she has to go!

Not much love for DWTS (not much posting about last nite's show)... are people finding our final four rather boring?

I do like Kristi and Jason, but still think Christian is getting a bit of excessive praise. Marissa ... she's put up a good fight, but time to go (and why was CaryAnn (sp?) so mean to her last night ... that will probably work in her favor to garner more fan votes. Everyone seemed to plateau early. No one continued to improve.

Jason and Edyta did a lift during their paso doble and weren't called on it.


Yes, we noticed that too; much more obvious than usual. Nary a word was said. :confused::rolleyes: It's pretty clear they want that final to be between Jason and Kristi.

Yes, we noticed that too; much more obvious than usual. Nary a word was said. :confused::rolleyes: It's pretty clear they want that final to be between Jason and Kristi.

Yeah, the judges have had to really struggle to keep Kristi from running away with the thing.

The lift was really obvious to the camera, so I'm sure it didn't happen while all three judges were blinking simutaneously.

I think the fix is in, or else the judges are refereeing the scoreboard.

They obviously are using a different standard for Kristi than everyone else. They seem to be rotating the baddie each week so you can't blame the British judge or the Italian judge for an overly harsh score each week.

If they are giving Marissa 9's on stuff, Kristi should be getting all 10's every time.

If they are giving Marissa 9's on stuff, Kristi should be getting all 10's every time.It’s absurd that she’s getting 9’s :confused::rolleyes: relatively speaking.
Kristi should get an eleven. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akaD9v460yI):cool:

I can see her gettings 9s for her performance - on the richter scale.

Everyone seemed to plateau early. No one continued to improve.

Yeah that's my impression too. Cristian's improvement has been a little more consistant than the others, but not enough to carry the show.

I think the fix is in, or else the judges are refereeing the scoreboard...

. They seem to be rotating the baddie each week so you can't blame the British judge or the Italian judge for an overly harsh score each week.

....

Yeah, it used to be that Len was always the heavy. Like Simon is stuck with being the AI heavy. I guess Len got tired of taking all the heat. Or, perhaps Bruno and Carrie Ann's stint on Dance Wars forced them to be more critical and it's carried over to DWTS.

Changing the subject a bit.

Do you guys feel the same way about Cheryl Burke as I do? To me, one of the reasons that she has been on the winning team twice is that she can REALLY sell a dance. Talk about stage presence and charisma. Fun to watch.

Changing the subject a bit.

Do you guys feel the same way about Cheryl Burke as I do? To me, one of the reasons that she has been on the winning team twice is that she can REALLY sell a dance. Talk about stage presence and charisma. Fun to watch.

Both my wife and I agreed last night that Cheryl is starting to look like the 2nd "chunky" dancer on the show.

I know the show is supposed to be in wide screen, but Cheryl seems to be filling up more of that screen than she did in previous seasons.

Hard to tell if it's age putting on the few extra pounds; the other female dancers geing in such good shape; or it Cheryl has been hanging out at the food tray with Chubs. They are competitors and eating is a competitive sport.

One other thing about Cheryl that I think may be overlooked here is her choreographer expertise in her ability to choreograph a routine for basically, a one armed dancer. That in itself is pretty amazing.

I think Cheryl has looked much better in the past. She lost something since the first season she won.

Hard to tell if it's age putting on the few extra pounds; the other female dancers geing in such good shape; or it Cheryl has been hanging out at the food tray with Chubs. They are competitors and eating is a competitive sport.Of course at 24 she is pretty much over the hill.

Of course at 24 she is pretty much over the hill.

Well she's welcome to come down into the valley with me. I'll provide the twinkies and oreos :D

Well, I don’t care what all you say about Cheryl! She is my girl and (to quote Len), "for me", she is the best looking, the best dancer and the best choreographer on the show!

So there!:):):D:D:cool:

Cheryl has always been a teensy bit chunkier than the other female pros; don't know if there's "more" of her this season or not. One reason it looks that way is she has a slight "crease" just beneath her ribs, seen from the back, a feature common to women carrying a few extra pounds. But in Cheryl's case, that could be just the way she's built. Hard to imagine being even slightly overweight as many calories as she must burn on a daily basis.

But I agree with lwien that Cheryl is the most dynamic of the female pros. Yes, she can really sell it.

I wouldn't say Cheryl is chunkier, but thicker would be a more appropriate word IMO, especially in the thighs. Someone posted some before/after type screencaps a while back commenting on this very subject. She's still hot though. Each pro has her positive physical attributes. For me Julianne is overall the best; pretty face, great proportions but a little flat in the posterior for my taste. Edyta, sexy six pack, calves are a bit small for me but she can move and exhibits great flexibility. Shallow I know but for what it's worth, at least none of the pros are Nicole Richie stick figures.

Cheryl has just the right amount of junk in the trunk for my tastes....ooh la la

Ya know, there are a lot of things that go into making a winning performance, but one of MOST important things that are a part of making a winning performance is the choreography, which is discussed very little in this thread.

Choreography is a true art form, and then to apply that art form so it best takes advantage of a non-professional dancer, takes that art form to a whole other level, and in this context, as well as selling a performance, Cheryl is one of the best in the show, if not THE best.

Chiming in late with my assessment of last night's show...

Kristi reestablished herself as the best of this year's class; her jive and tango were nearly flawless. Just about the only way she will lose is if she falls flat on her face during next week's finale.

Cristian was second best, gimpy arm and all, while Jason shined with his paso doble.

Marissa, with her quick step and rumba, was good, but not quite great. I would not be surprised if she is eliminated tonight, but I wish she would stay, so I can experience her live-wire persona one last time before she goes back to Broadway.

...Cheryl is the most dynamic of the female pros. Yes, she can really sell it.Yes, Cheryl is the most dynamic. She does have that ability to make her partners shine. I think that’s one of the reasons why it’s tougher for the female stars to win. The male pros are a little too into their own thing, too much showboating not enough showcasing.

Julianne has that ability, like Cheryl, making her partners look good, and she also glows with her bubbly infectious effervescence.

I enjoyed seeing Edyta’s witty side ;) last night with the football coach/blackboard routine.

I enjoyed seeing Edyta’s witty side ;) last night with the football coach/blackboard routine.

Do you really think she came up with that herself? Why do you think a show like this has writers?

Do you really think she came up with that herself? No... It was still cute and funny. Why do you think a show like this has writers? I never said that she constructed the segment. ;)

Ya know, there are a lot of things that go into making a winning performance, but one of MOST important things that are a part of making a winning performance is the choreography, which is discussed very little in this thread.

Very true. Each move has to flow into one another, rather than just say, go move 1, stop, move 2, stop. If time wasn't taken to choreograph, I suppose the performances would have staccato, awkward movements to them.

Reports indicate that California now has a little less risk of falling to the ocean.

The BEST dance of the night goes to................................Those 13 year old kids (or are they 15?) Whatever, that dance was intense. Her facial expressions for a Phantom tune was amazing. It was almost like SHE was wearing the mask. And those moves at the end? Hell, I even stood up and applauded !!! :)

The older kids had the style, but the widdle kiddies are going to steal this one!

And now that the show has aired on the west coast...

As most people expected, Marissa and Toni got ousted tonight. She did better than many expected.

By the way, the line-up for the Kimmel show tonight does NOT have a spot saved for the latest DWTS castoff. Is the show a rerun or a goof on their part?

Kimmel show is a rerun. I just was looking at the HOTP thread and Kimmel is in New York as part of the ABC upfront.

She did better than many expected.:cool: I had her in my preseason picks-- but that was before I saw any of them dance and actually saw her. :eek:


In winning order my final four blind "preseason picks" are…
1-Kristi Yamaguchi
2-Mario
3-Marissa Jaret Winokur
4-Cristian de la Fuente

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13388498#post13388498

Reports indicate that California now has a little less risk of falling to the ocean.I doubt that. They are still at risk. In all seriousness (and OT), with the recent earth gurgle’s causing several eruptions of volcanoes and earthquakes… all tragic... I would not want to be living near a fault line right now. Those ripples usually reverberate all the way around the globe.

Everyone should go back and find their picks to see how they did. :cool: I posted my "pre dance" picks ^^^ and here are my "post first dance" picks. I know others picked Kristi and Jason too. ;)


After watching their first dance, my opinion on the dudes…


The only guys who could make it to the finals, in order, are…
Jason- the one to beat Mario- has to kill the curse of Sabrina
Cristian- tough to fill the shoes of fellow South American Helio
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13404901#post13404901


Kristi is the best of the women by far. She looks like the overall main contender.
Priscilla really surprised me. She will be around for a while.

Marlee, another I had no hope for, proved that she has talent.

Marissa is the Budweiser long shot. We’ll see... if she can improve.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13414178#post13414178

Yea, well, I picked Penn to go out first (check) and Marissa to win it (UNcheck).

Frankly, although I thought she was a blast, Marissa seriously did not deserve to last as long as she did, so I'll take a big hit on that one.

Frankly, I haven't seen ANYONE on that show EVER do ballroom (specifically, the foxtrot) as well as Jason does. Maybe that won't get him the championship but he is amazing in that regard.

And don't discount the importance, as posters have mentioned above, of the choreographer. I don't think it's a coincidence that in the last two seasons Mark's team has performed as well as any of them. He REALLY can dance and, apparently, knows how to get the best out of his partner.

Finally, I was really sad to see Mario go (I know old news). In addition to being a better dancer than the "judges" gave him credit for, he seemed to really have his head screwed on straight (for such a young guy).

Chiming in late with my assessment of last night's show...

Kristi reestablished herself as the best of this year's class; her jive and tango were nearly flawless. Just about the only way she will lose is if she falls flat on her face during next week's finale.....

The one thing thst has me worried is the HUGE applause that Jason got at the introductions of Monday's show. It was at least twice as loud as everyone else's.

I hope I wrong since I picked Kristi to win, but it looks to me like Kristi is going to need some serious help from the judges in order to win this thing.

The BEST dance of the night goes to................................Those 13 year old kids (or are they 15?) Whatever, that dance was intense. Her facial expressions for a Phantom tune was amazing. It was almost like SHE was wearing the mask. And those moves at the end? Hell, I even stood up and applauded !!! :)

I'll second that. The Paso is in the bottom two of my least favorite ballroom dances, but that Paso was amazing. Considering that Ashely showed up in the rehearsal segment, I wonder if she also did the choreography?

And that was our second Ashely Delgrosso sighting too. I'm really starting to get the impression that she'll be back in Julianne's spot next season. :(

Not that I have anything against Ashely, but I've already missed Julianne this season. Her early departure is part of the reason that I've found this season a less interesting.

I am not too surprised by Marissa's exit (even I admit she lasted a bit longer than she was supposed to), yet I will miss her as I loved watching her for her bubbly persona.

Meanwhile, it should be an interesting final week of season 6. Based on overall track record, I am putting my money on Kristi to take the trophy (hopefully, she won't pull a Mel B and do a slow, awkward freestyle).

I was very entertained by the kids last night. Maybe, we will see some of them as pro dancers on DWTS season 21...;)

I am not too surprised by Marissa's exit (even I admit she lasted a bit longer than she was supposed to), yet I will miss her as I loved watching her for her bubbly persona.

Meanwhile, it should be an interesting final week of season 6. Based on overall track record, I am putting my money on Kristi to take the trophy (hopefully, she won't pull a Mel B and do a slow, awkward freestyle).

I was very entertained by the kids last night. Maybe, we will see some of them as pro dancers on DWTS season 21...;)

My wife and I agreed that the kid's competition was the very thing that DVRs were made for. Bless the person that invented fast forwarding...

Fast forward to get to the kids or fast forward thru them? Your statement could be taken two different ways.

BUMP.

Season 6 finale starts tonight! Who wins (Jason, Kristi, Cristian)?

BUMP.

Season 6 finale starts tonight! Who wins (Jason, Kristi, Cristian)?

C'mon; it has to be Kristi if they claim to have any credibility left as an actual competition, which we've known since Day 1 and which only gets reinforced each week. Those guys are clearly a whole level below her; this season shouldn't even be close. I've seen every season of this show except the first and there's never been such a large gap between one contestant and everyone else. (Sabrina, maybe; and we saw what happened to her. :eek:)

I also posted this in the Who Wins thread but it may be worthwhile posting here as well. In a local paper this morning (South Florida) Jason is quoted as saying he wants to win for Edyta since she has never done better than third and this may be her last seaon!

I hope not, but FWIW!

And then there's Cheryl who just opened that new dance studio and Louie has that ballroom cardio business and Anna is starting to make it to the finals in real ballroom competitions.

I wonder how many pros they're going to lose??

I did see an interview with Maks a couple of weeks ago where he said he's available for next season if they want him, so Maks might be back.

I am still putting my money on Kristi to take the trophy. As I said in an earlier post...

Just about the only way she will lose is if she falls flat on her face during next week's finale.
;)

I also posted this in the Who Wins thread but it may be worthwhile posting here as well. In a local paper this morning (South Florida) Jason is quoted as saying he wants to win for Edyta since she has never done better than third and this may be her last season!

I hope not, but FWIW!

And then there's Cheryl who just opened that new dance studio and Louie has that ballroom cardio business and Anna is starting to make it to the finals in real ballroom competitions.

I wonder how many pros they're going to lose??

I did see an interview with Maks a couple of weeks ago where he said he's available for next season if they want him, so Maks might be back.
And, on top of all that, Julianne is starting a singing career (her album will be out tomorrow).

I wonder what the chances are of Bruno or Carrie Ann stepping out from behind the judges' table to be pro dancers...probably won't happen, but it is possible, given their choreography experience.;)

I like most of the pros but I have no problem with losing a few and bringing in some new blood. We all agree that Julianne was a pleasant addition. ;)

I wouldn’t mind seeing an “older” professional, someone that could partner comfortably with the “older” stars that they usually have each season.

I am still putting my money on Kristi to take the trophy. As I said in an earlier post...




Don't go out on a limb or anything... ;) Bet you also put a bundle on "Big Brown" at the Preakness last weekend. :p

I like most of the pros but I have no problem with losing a few and bringing in some new blood. We all agree that Julianne was a pleasant addition. ;)

+1.

All I can say is …

“Spread your legs and point your toes!! Wooooooooooo!”

Had to be the best moment in the show, from any season. :eek: :p :D :cool:

Whoa ... it's hard to tell the diff between Kristi and the pros tonight !!!

I like how Kristi has loosened up over the past few weeks in the wardrobe arena.

Anyone notice that Kristi had a 3411 phone number, while the others had 3402 and 3403? People who aren' t paying attention would expect Kristi to have 3401 because she went first. I hope that didn't cost her votes.

Anyone notice that Kristi had a 3411 phone number, while the others had 3402 and 3403? People who aren' t paying attention would expect Kristi to have 3401 because she went first. I hope that didn't cost her votes.

The stars have the same phone number each week.

Whoa ... it's hard to tell the diff between Kristi and the pros tonight !!!

Yeah Kristi definately improved her leg and hip action this week. Much better job of doing the leg straightening thing in the cha-cha. Hopefully she has the fan support to pull off the win.

Cristian danced his best dance of the season in the cha-cha too. But his freestyle really disappointed me. It was mostly all tricks and no dancing and what few bits of dancing were in it were all Cheryl with Cristian just standing there holding her hand. I found it really surprising since there was so much dancing in his cha-cha.

DWTS final story on CNN (in case you missed it): http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/20/dancing.with.the.stars.ap/index.html

I think they should just cancel tonight's show and give Kristi the trophy...;)

because she was the best by far last night.

Oh yes, Cristian did two very good dances, but neither of them held a candle to Kristi's routines.

Jason was so-so in his cha-cha; he did a good freestyle, but it may be too little, too late.

Kristi DOES have an unfair advantage here. Being a Olympic Gold Medal winner for figure skating makes her about as close to a professional dancer as one can get.

But there are a lot of skating fans out there, so it did make sense to bring her on the show.

I don't know about anyone else, but does anyone get the feeling that she may have held back a bit before really turning it on?

... I don't know about anyone else, but does anyone get the feeling that she may have held back a bit before really turning it on?Hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it, but what you say does make a lot of sense!

Kristi DOES have an unfair advantage here. Being a Olympic Gold Medal winner for figure skating makes her about as close to a professional dancer as one can get.

But there are a lot of skating fans out there, so it did make sense to bring her on the show.

I don't know about anyone else, but does anyone get the feeling that she may have held back a bit before really turning it on?

More likely, it's her years on Stars on Ice that gave her the training.

I don't think it was really more predictive than Apolo Ono's Olympic gold medals in speed skating.

Stiil, they have to be banging on Michelle Kwan's door to appear in a future DWTS season.

In the meantime, is it too late for Kristi to start training for ice dancing in the 2010 Olympics? DWTS should be predictive that she would do well in that event, even at her age.

Kristie and Jason Taylor...Congrats Archie and to all of those who picked the one two from day one. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13864899#post13864899):cool:





Jason was great tonight.

I figured out who he reminds me of…

he looks like a dancing Oscar.


http://www.fallingpixel.com/products/870/mains/oscar1.jpg

Congratulations to Kristi and Mark!!!

And good for Jason, definitely most improved.


(Note ... re Apollo Ono ... I don't think a speed skater is necessarily going to be blessed with the gracefulness he ended up showing. Just think of all the time he's spent scrunched over, and those overworked thigh muscles!)

LOL. Was watching local ABC news after the show. Some idiot reporter asked Kristi how does winning this trophy compare to winning the Gold Medal?:eek:

Her answer? "They are both great. Just on different levels".

I have no idea how she was able to keep a straight face. If it were me, my eyes would have locked up in my forehead for a week.

I thought it kinda sad that everyone was thanked except for the band. They thanked the judges, the fans, the cameramen (I think someone said that), and the sponsors. No one thanked Harold Wheeler or his phenomenal band. As a matter of fact, I think this band sounded tighter than ever and did more variety and dynamic material than in past years. (Stevie Wonder's Higher Ground was particularly well done.) Being a musician and music lover, I picked up on this lack of recognition of the music and the band. Most times, the musicians are considered "backup" and go unnoticed. To harold Wheeler and his band...Thank You!

BTW, what was the deal with Shannon straddling Tommy B.? I didn't quite understand that one.

Also, Kristi and Mark, you guys definatly deserved to win - you are the best dancers. I felt bad for Edyta. She has been pretty dam consistent and had been with DWTS for a while. So, congrats to her also :)

I thought it kinda sad that everyone was thanked except for the band. ... No one thanked Harold Wheeler or his phenomenal band.

Someone did mention the band, I think it was Mark...it was just talked over by someone else.

Congrats Archie and to all of those who picked the one two from day one. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13864899#post13864899):cool:


LOL! Yeah, we really took a big chance on Kristi, didn't we Larry? Lotta' guts in that pick. :D

Maybe the fall season will introduce a new pack of C-Listers who are a little more competitively matched. It will be back before we know it. I just hope Edyta, Julianne, Cheryl, and Kym all bring their tight little packages and skimpy outfits back to the show. One thing's for sure - DWTS is never off the air long enough to actually end up missing it. ;)

Hey, I have not kept up with DWTS this year. Who was the "Lane Bryant girl" competing in the show? For a pleasingly plump lady, she had beautiful legs. Just wondering.

Wolfie

BTW, what was the deal with Shannon straddling Tommy B.? I didn't quite understand that one.Despite her prominent artificial lungs, Shannon is apparently not in the best aerobic shape. Earlier in the season, there were times when she was huffing and puffing so badly she had to sit on the floor during judging. And judging by the look on Tom's face, she was really leaning on him last night.

The band and singers were much improved this season.

Not sure if it was the performance or the song selection, but the music ended up being a much bigger part of the performances, as opposed to background music.

Hey, I have not kept up with DWTS this year. Who was the "Lane Bryant girl" competing in the show? For a pleasingly plump lady, she had beautiful legs. Just wondering.

Wolfie

No he didnt just go there... :D

*Wolfie, there are a few pages 'dedicated' to her in this thread...just a hint, you are in the minority on that one.

Hey, I have not kept up with DWTS this year. Who was the "Lane Bryant girl" competing in the show? For a pleasingly plump lady, she had beautiful legs. Just wondering.

WolfieMarissa Jaret Winokur (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935441/)... If you go back a few pages you will see that she has been discussed quite frequently. ;)

Despite her prominent artificial lungs, Shannon is apparently not in the best aerobic shape.

Good grief. :rolleyes: For the last time, Shannon's "lungs" are a result of good genes. She's perfectly natural (and spectacular as Seinfeld might say). Anybody who disagrees obviously doesn't know much about implants, or how they look and move. May I suggest the movie "American Pie" for appropriate evidence (and that's about the only reason to watch that dreck in the first place). Now, hopefully that's settled; I don't want to hear another word about it. ;)

One nice thing about this show, and I've noted this before on this thread - the producers seem to have prominent bust size as one of the prime criteria for choosing the female contestants. And I can think of no more vital attribute. :p

I thought it kinda sad that everyone was thanked except for the band...)
The band is obviously an important part of the show but I don’t have a problem with them remaining in the background. I think they received appropriate accolades throughout the season.

Not to offend any musicians but to me they are just a cover band, a great one, but in the same league as one performing at high end Weddings and Bar Mitzvahs.

In the first season (and maybe more) they actually had the singers on the stage performing their vocals. Somewhere along the way they hid them.

...perfectly natural (and spectacular as Seinfeld might say)...
Ahhhhh.... yes... I remember spectacular (http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/teri-hatcher-2007-abc-tv-upfronts-arrivals-1qiQkW.jpg). :cool:

The band is obviously an important part of the show but I don’t have a problem with them remaining in the background. I think they received appropriate accolades throughout the season.

Not to offend any musicians but to me they are just a cover band, a great one, but in the same league as one performing at high end Weddings and Bar Mitzvahs.

In the first season (and maybe more) they actually had the singers on the stage performing their vocals. Somewhere along the way they hid them.
I mention it mainly because I think this band has improved greatly over past years.

I mention it mainly because I think this band has improved greatly over past years.I certainly agree. They have improved. Usually when they don’t sound good, to me, it’s because of the song selection and not their performance.

-snip-
BTW, what was the deal with Shannon straddling Tommy B.? I didn't quite understand that one.

Yea, as someone said, her lack of aerobic "fitness" has been well-documented, as has her tendency to weep on camera. I loved Tom's line later when he was interviewing some of the ousted contestants and Shannon started to cry (paraphrasing): "What's the matter now"?


Also, Kristi and Mark, you guys definatly deserved to win - you are the best dancers. I felt bad for Edyta. She has been pretty dam consistent and had been with DWTS for a while. So, congrats to her also :)

Yup, congrats, those who picked her (and Mark) were right on. I don't think she was quite as good as the judges (especially Carrie Ann) made her out to be but she was clearly the best of the pack.

I don't know about anyone else, but I kinda hold my breath when ADAM CAROLLA speaks..afraid of what will come out of his mouth. The terrorist comment was right on the money, perhaps not the place for it though.

nashvillecat - Agree on all pts w/respect to Carolla. He definitely makes Julianne nervous & happy, 'nervous happy?'

BTW, I bought Julianne's CD for my wife and kids. Not bad for the $8 I paid.

I don't know about anyone else, but I kinda hold my breath when ADAM CAROLLA speaks..afraid of what will come out of his mouth. The terrorist comment was right on the money, perhaps not the place for it though.During Adam’s humorous rant they had a cut away of Penn. He had a cringed look on his face. It appeared to me that throughout this entire season, Penn was unnecessarily battling with Adam for laughs.

During Adam’s humorous rant they had a cut away of Penn. He had a cringed look on his face. It appeared to me that throughout this entire season, Penn was unnecessarily battling with Adam for laughs.

Adam gets the humor mirror ball for the season.

I thought it kinda sad that everyone was thanked except for the band. They thanked the judges, the fans, the cameramen (I think someone said that), and the sponsors. No one thanked Harold Wheeler or his phenomenal band. As a matter of fact, I think this band sounded tighter than ever and did more variety and dynamic material than in past years. (Stevie Wonder's Higher Ground was particularly well done.) Being a musician and music lover, I picked up on this lack of recognition of the music and the band. Most times, the musicians are considered "backup" and go unnoticed. To harold Wheeler and his band...Thank You!

...:)

IMHO, the most impressive thing about this band is the extremely short schedule they have to rehearse in. IIRC songs get picked Tuesday night. So they only have about 4 days to rehearse about 10 songs and half a dozen bumpers (although they are very short songs). Then they have to hold dress rehearsals for the contestants where a bunch of time gets wasted and they get a bunch of last minute changes that have to be incorporate. And they only have about a half-day to clean up before the show on Monday.

If you think about it, DWTS is an amazing show just from the amount of live performers that they are keeping fully employed. The number of band members and dancers they have to pay is stunning. Even at the peak of the "variety show" era there weren't many shows with this many muscians and dancers.

...

Stiil, they have to be banging on Michelle Kwan's door to appear in a future DWTS season.

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I'd prefer Sasha Cohen or the one that won in Salt Lake (Sara something???) if they are going to pick another figure skater. But Michelle would be OK too.

We don't speculate much on male competitors, but I think it'd be interesting if they got Michael Phelps for next season especially since he'll probably be the new crowned winner of the most olympic medals ever.

If he's considering any kind of broadcasting career in the future, now would be a great time to plant the seeds and DWTS would be a great place to plant them.

I'd prefer Sasha Cohen or the one that won in Salt Lake (Sara something???) if they are going to pick another figure skater. But Michelle would be OK too.Sarah Hughes

Re: Sarah Hughes: Little doubt in my mind that she would be able to draw more than her share of viewers, like Kristi did. If you remember the Salt Lake Games, Sarah was almost flawless in her skating. Her "I've fallen and I can't get up" reaction to her hearing she won the gold was IMO one of the best moments of those Games.

Meanwhile, congratulations to Kristi for winning the coveted mirror ball trophy. She definitely deserved to win this thing, being consistent almost every week. Congrats to Jason and Cristian also, for doing as well as they did to get to the finale.

Just speculating on future contestants regarding the aged and former skating stars. Dorothy Hamill and Peggy Fleming. Or Nancy Kerrigan, after she comes back from vacationing at Waimea Bay. ;)

Just speculating on future contestants regarding the aged and former skating stars. Dorothy Hamill and Peggy Fleming. Or Nancy Kerrigan, after she comes back from vacationing at Waimea Bay. ;)

Rematch - Tonya Harding & Nncy Kerrigan?

Ratings winner for sure, but watch out for "accidents" in practice.

Just read that Warren Sapp will be a contestant next season. I don't know when that is or who else is invited but I can't wait to see the big guy dancin'

Imagine him and Marrisa on the floor together.

Just read that Warren Sapp will be a contestant next season. I don't know when that is or who else is invited but I can't wait to see the big guy dancin'

Imagine him and Marrisa on the floor together.

Sounds like the next coming of Master P. :rolleyes: Except Sapp is probably twice the athlete, and football players seem to do well, so who knows? What's more of a certainty is that he's angling for some kind of network gig and is hoping the exposure he gets there can vault him over some of the other recently retired gridiron greats into a cushy commentator's chair.

Sounds like the next coming of Master P. :rolleyes: Except Sapp is probably twice the athlete, and football players seem to do well, so who knows? What's more of a certainty is that he's angling for some kind of network gig and is hoping the exposure he gets there can vault him over some of the other recently retired gridiron greats into a cushy commentator's chair.

He has more personality than Master P by far. I think he'll be a fun contestant to watch...

He has more personality than Master P by far.

Well, so does your average kitchen utensil. :p I was speaking more of his hulking size... but Sapp is Charles Barkley-style-gifted both as an athlete and personality. I agree he'll be a fun contestant, which is the name of the game on this show.

Well, so does your average kitchen utensil. :p I was speaking more of his hulking size... but Sapp is Charles Barkley-style-gifted both as an athlete and personality. I agree he'll be a fun contestant, which is the name of the game on this show.

Agreed.

What I want to know is a) where did stunpals get his information, and b) why aren't we hearing about any female contestants?

Agreed, we nn more info on the fems.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article643685.ece

"After 96½ sacks, eight Pro Bowls and a Super Bowl championship, the former Bucs and Raiders defensive tackle is finally ready to take a bow. But performing still is in his blood and Sapp, 35, says he plans to accept an offer to appear on Dancing With the Stars. "

Well, one of my favorite female suggestions, Paula Creamer, choked on her chance to win her first US Open yesterday. All she had to do was shoot one under and she would have coasted to victory.

Oh, I just had an idea. They said that Annika is quitting golf and getting married in January (IIRC). So that means she'll need to know how to dance just like Springer needed to know how to dance for his daughter's wedding. ;)

So maybe they can get Annika this season. :D

I'm sure they'll go hard after Annika for future seasons...

My pick for a female contestant is Cindy Crawford. Yeah, I pegged her for Season 6, but I'm stubborn.

Cindy can fill the 40 year old woman and super-hottie slot. Plus, she's into furniture design now, so DWTS could be a good way to get her name out. I'm guessing the typical DWTS viewer is into furniture and stuff.

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I would have no problem with Cindy as a contestant. No problem at all.

If we want to go a little older, there's also Linda Carter and/or Jaclyn Smith.

Cheryl Tiegs is still looking good too.

Cheryl Tiegs is still looking good too.

And Christie Brinkley & Kathie Ireland as well. I'm sure they've gone after all three of the former SI swimsuit superstars by now... With two seasons of the show per year (too much, IMO), they're going through attractive female C-list celebrities at a pretty fast clip.

I kind of prefer it when the Celebrity is male, so the "professional" is the female of a pairing. Unless you're talking Kristi Yamaguchi, it seems to make for more entertaining dances as the woman is typically the showcase.

While we're making nominations, I'd like to see Charles Barkley - especially after they've already made so much fun of him on the highly rated show, Inside the NBA. If they can't get him, then they should go after Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson.

From the tennis world, I'd love to see John McEnroe (can you see him lighting up the judges for a "bad call"?), Andre Agassi, or Pete Sampras.

Hey maybe they should do a Nasty Celebrity Divorce Theme show. ;)

They could have Johnny Mac & Tatum, Charlie Sheen & Denise Richards, Paul McCartney & Heather Mills, David Guest and Liza Monelli (sp?) and a special multicombo matchup of Christie Brinkley & Billy Joel and whoever the heck it is that she's currently divorcing. :D

No more possible candidates? Anyone hearing/reading about females on the show?