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exerciseguy
11-13-08, 06:56 PM
If you can snipe a Infinity Primus C350 for about $100 on Harman's eBay store, I think you will GREATLY appriciate the upgrade. The C350 is a KILLER center channel.
markwriter
11-13-08, 07:10 PM
Hey Guys
I picked up 2 of the P362 from the EBay Store ($66 for the first one!!)....anyway, I'm still using my Polk Cis3 as the center and at first, I couldn't notice the 'offset' but after hearing more (or maybe the fronts are broken in more now), I can tell the center (especially for dialogues) is slightly 'quieter' compared to the overall sound.
Does this mean I should upgrade the center to Inifinity's as well? If so, what would be the compatible one?
Thanks
Nice price!!! Holy smokes. One way to do the center would be to use a single P152 or P162 if you have the room for it. You can tilt the speaker up towards your ears to make it work.
Also, you can adjust the level of the center channel with your receiver.
Another thing to try is to not use the center at all. Just to see if you like the P362's.
exerciseguy
11-13-08, 09:43 PM
I scored a similar deal on Harman's eBay site; I landed two P362 for something like $120 each including s/h, and a PS210 for about $125 including s/h.
I don't watch too many action & sci-fi flicks, but when I do, the P362/PS210 combo works fine for me in strick 2.1 (HK3485).
amicusterrae
11-14-08, 03:37 PM
Question for fellow Primus owners:
I have a pair of 150s I am going to take to my office for a simple stereo setup. It's a small room, and I was thinking of mounting them flat on the wall. Any recommendations? Should I expect a significant downgrade in sound quality? I could use floor stands, but it would be more convienent to have the speakers out of the way.
thanks--
Jeremyd5
11-22-08, 02:26 AM
Hello everyone,
After reading all the good things being said about the Primus line, I went ahead and bought the 362s ($200 through Harman) and am about to pick up a PC350 for the center. However I am uncertain what Primus to use for the surrounds. Unfortunately, size issues don't allow me to use another set of 362s; the surrounds will need to be smaller since they will be wall mounted or on a stand near the ceiling. Would the P162s be the best option for this setup? Also, what would be a good sub to buy for this setup? Thank you for your time.
blued888
11-22-08, 02:46 AM
Hello everyone,
After reading all the good things being said about the Primus line, I went ahead and bought the 362s ($200 through Harman) and am about to pick up a PC350 for the center. However I am uncertain what Primus to use for the surrounds. Unfortunately, size issues don't allow me to use another set of 362s; the surrounds will need to be smaller since they will be wall mounted or on a stand near the ceiling. Would the P162s be the best option for this setup? Also, what would be a good sub to buy for this setup? Thank you for your time.
I think the P152s and P142s can be wall-mounted. The P162 is too heavy for wall-mounting. It weighs somewhere around 17 lbs.
I currently have the following: 2x P362, 2x P162, PC350. Subwoofer is an eD A2-300. :)
Tacoboy
11-22-08, 03:18 AM
Hello everyone,
After reading all the good things being said about the Primus line, I went ahead and bought the 362s ($200 through Harman) and am about to pick up a PC350 for the center. However I am uncertain what Primus to use for the surrounds. Unfortunately, size issues don't allow me to use another set of 362s; the surrounds will need to be smaller since they will be wall mounted or on a stand near the ceiling. Would the P162s be the best option for this setup? Also, what would be a good sub to buy for this setup? Thank you for your time.
I would say go for the 162s, it what I would have gotten.
You can get a good price on the BIC 100 subwoofer on EBay.
Hello everyone,
After reading all the good things being said about the Primus line, I went ahead and bought the 362s ($200 through Harman) and am about to pick up a PC350 for the center. However I am uncertain what Primus to use for the surrounds. Unfortunately, size issues don't allow me to use another set of 362s; the surrounds will need to be smaller since they will be wall mounted or on a stand near the ceiling. Would the P162s be the best option for this setup? Also, what would be a good sub to buy for this setup? Thank you for your time.
I have 360 fronts paired with 150s as surrounds and a hsu-research subwoofer. Works great for me. Since you can choose separate settings for speakers and you are planning to add a subwoofer, 152s should be fine.
WannaBinHD
11-22-08, 11:14 AM
My questions are somewhat similar. I have an Infinity Entra 7.1 set up I've been using for a few years. I have all Entra surrounds except for the sub and Entra center channel. After reading this thread for the past few months, I'm thinking of upgrading the Front Left and Right to 362s.
Q1: Would the 362s as fronts (rather than the small surrounds) improve my sound considerably?
Q2: Would the Entra center match okay with the 362s?
Thanks in advance!
markwriter
11-22-08, 01:04 PM
My questions are somewhat similar. I have an Infinity Entra 7.1 set up I've been using for a few years. I have all Entra surrounds except for the sub and Entra center channel. After reading this thread for the past few months, I'm thinking of upgrading the Front Left and Right to 362s.
Q1: Would the 362s as fronts (rather than the small surrounds) improve my sound considerably?
Q2: Would the Entra center match okay with the 362s?
Thanks in advance!
Q1: The P360/362 is highly recommended, it will definitely improve on what you have. Look for it on ebay/craigslist or some of the sellers of refurbished Infinity. Look for more info on the P360/362 on this thread...I've written quite a bit about it. It's an extraordinary speaker for the money.
MobiusBP
11-27-08, 09:53 PM
Hello all,
Could anyone do a quick check of their Primus 362's speaker port breather hole? Mine doesn't have a tubing that extends to anywhere, just the hole molding of the front plastic, and that's it. I was wondering if that would be the cause of the (possibly) excess port noise/chuffing. I bought one a few months ago, and i keep hearing a lot of port noise, even when im sitting on my couch (~6 or 7 feet away). It usually does this particularly when playing classical music with deeper instruments like cellos and the like. I wasn't sure if this is normal or not, because Ive never owned "real" (for my budget ;)) speakers before, just HTiB satellites. It could also be that im feeding too much bass, but even at mid-low volume, and even when the woofer cone is just *barely* vibrating do i hear noise. Is this normal?
(i only have one P362, I'm planning on getting the other this Christmas. But i also have a pair of P142s, and they have port tubing, so not sure if the 362 were to have them or not.)
Thanks in advance for any reply.
atdamico
11-28-08, 09:31 AM
Q1: The P360/362 is highly recommended, it will definitely improve on what you have. Look for it on ebay/craigslist or some of the sellers of refurbished Infinity. Look for more info on the P360/362 on this thread...I've written quite a bit about it. It's an extraordinary speaker for the money.
It seems I must keep following you around until you step up to the plate or admit you may have exagerated your position. I have PM'd you, no response. I still have $10,000 in cash waiting for a home. Name the place and time, we'll both put $10,000 into a pot. You bring the Primus 150's, I'll bring 5 other sets of speakers. Vandersteen, Dunlavy, Triangle, Montitor Audio, and Klipsch. I'll level match the components and allow you to run the blindfold. If I don't pick out the other speakers 100% of the time over the Primus, the money goes to a charity of your choice. If I do, it goes to a charity of my choice. You keep making these fantastic claims about Infinity Primus 150's being as good or better than any other speaker available at any price. Step up. You can post all the insults you want, you can post all the spin you want, you can attack me personally, you can attempt to ridicule me, but at the end of the day, I have $10,000 to prove I'm right and willing to put it in escrow, your unwillingness to do the same speaks volumes.
Guys i'm contemplating upgrading my logitech z-5500s to an infinity primus set, bec i really want to give my onkyo 606 speakers worth the amp.
But I live in a small studio apartment, with a viewing area of about 8ft x8ft. I will definitely get the p350 center channel, but do i really need p362s for fronts if I intend to get the ps210 subwoofer anyway?
my room can't really accommodate the floorstanders on the video shelf and it would take a bit of redecorating to make them work.
I was thinking about getting a pair of p152s and a ps210 sub paired with the p350 center--- then slowly upgrade my surrounds to p152s as my budget allowed.
MobiusBP
11-28-08, 01:47 PM
Guys i'm contemplating upgrading my logitech z-5500s to an infinity primus set, bec i really want to give my onkyo 606 speakers worth the amp.
But I live in a small studio apartment, with a viewing area of about 8ft x8ft. I will definitely get the p350 center channel, but do i really need p362s for fronts if I intend to get the ps210 subwoofer anyway?
my room can't really accommodate the floorstanders on the video shelf and it would take a bit of redecorating to make them work.
I was thinking about getting a pair of p152s and a ps210 sub paired with the p350 center--- then slowly upgrade my surrounds to p152s as my budget allowed.
Well, if the room is only 8 x 8, having the 152's as your mains should do just fine. And if adding a PS210 sub to the bunch, i don't see the reason for having the P362's unless you want really, really loud mains.
So yes, the plan you outlined last would be my choice as the best.
jehanzeb
11-29-08, 02:44 AM
It seems I must keep following you around until you step up to the plate or admit you may have exagerated your position. I have PM'd you, no response. I still have $10,000 in cash waiting for a home. Name the place and time, we'll both put $10,000 into a pot. You bring the Primus 150's, I'll bring 5 other sets of speakers. Vandersteen, Dunlavy, Triangle, Montitor Audio, and Klipsch. I'll level match the components and allow you to run the blindfold. If I don't pick out the other speakers 100% of the time over the Primus, the money goes to a charity of your choice. If I do, it goes to a charity of my choice. You keep making these fantastic claims about Infinity Primus 150's being as good or better than any other speaker available at any price. Step up. You can post all the insults you want, you can post all the spin you want, you can attack me personally, you can attempt to ridicule me, but at the end of the day, I have $10,000 to prove I'm right and willing to put it in escrow, your unwillingness to do the same speaks volumes.
Wow! You are serious about this one :)
As much as I think the P362's are a bargain I would not put them up against the likes of Dunlavy or Vandersteen.
To be blunt I would not even compare them to the Paradigm Active 20's I have sitting right next to the 362's.
On-sale price considered, you cannot go wrong with the 362's as home theatre speakers but to start 'assuming' other established speaker makers have inferior products for a lot more $$'s is nonsensical.
P-362 $99 each today. In store only!!
http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=32664&adid=7269949&subid=24486886&type=
allargon
11-29-08, 12:35 PM
P-362 $99 each today. In store only!!
http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=32664&adid=7269949&subid=24486886&type=
That deal is good for Austin, too.
the spyder
11-29-08, 03:04 PM
Good for Oregon too, grabbed a pair.
armada10
11-29-08, 08:48 PM
is this center channel a match for the 360s?
the Beta c250 isn't the match, you want the Primus C350.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/548250912
There's a Primus c250 also but you'd want the bigger 350 center for those towers.
All available on ebay too.
marin25
11-30-08, 03:49 PM
Question for all you Primus owners, after some research I've come up with the following system.
mains- Primus 252
center- Primus PC250
rears- Primus 152
sub- eventually I'm looking to get the Scamp 10 from Tweak City Audio.
My room is approx 20 feet by 15 feet, 8 foot high ceilings, 42 inch panny plasma.
I'm basically trying to stretch the home theatre dollar as far as it can go, I'm upgrading from a Onyko HTIB and will continue to use the receiver for now.
I can't go for the PC 350 center due to space issues. I chose the 252's over the 362 due to money issues and thought the 250 center would probably go beeter with the 252's.
In any case any feed back would be appreciated.
All speaker will be purchased off of harmon ebay site.
allargon
12-01-08, 02:27 PM
Question for all you Primus owners, after some research I've come up with the following system.
mains- Primus 252
center- Primus PC250
rears- Primus 152
sub- eventually I'm looking to get the Scamp 10 from Tweak City Audio.
My room is approx 20 feet by 15 feet, 8 foot high ceilings, 42 inch panny plasma.
I'm basically trying to stretch the home theatre dollar as far as it can go, I'm upgrading from a Onyko HTIB and will continue to use the receiver for now.
I can't go for the PC 350 center due to space issues. I chose the 252's over the 362 due to money issues and thought the 250 center would probably go beeter with the 252's.
In any case any feed back would be appreciated.
All speaker will be purchased off of harmon ebay site.
I will sell you my 250 if you want. I don't like it between my P362's at all. I haven't set the distances (about 17 ft. for the 250) with my AVR yet (been lazy--only running 3.0 right now).
The consensus is that the best center is a 3rd P362. (or in your case another 252). 2nd would be either a PC350 or a P162. I have yet to hear from someone who's tested both whether or not the 162 is better than a 350 for the center.
Jeremyd5
12-02-08, 12:01 AM
Has anyone had any issues with the PC350s magnetic shielding? I just got mine in today and when I place it on top of my tv it immediately makes my CRT bleed.
Coolpplse
12-02-08, 02:06 AM
I finally have a 7.1 setup with a few issues:
LCR - Primus 362
RL and RR - Primus 362
SBL and SBR - Primus 160
Sub - Primus PS-8
Currently running all the 362's on large with the 160's crossed at 60hz, at -22 db on the AVR's meter with a Denon 889. It sounds fantastic with no serious problems with this AV Receiver, but the woofers on the Left / Center / Right Channel's woofer's are wiggling a bit whenever theres a lot of low bass activity without sounding distorted or clipping. Is this ok for the 362's or should I back it down and leave 60hz and below for the subwoofer's job? Cause currently it seems to sound better with all towers set to large than to have my small sub handling the low bass from the mains...
blued888
12-02-08, 03:39 AM
Has anyone had any issues with the PC350s magnetic shielding? I just got mine in today and when I place it on top of my tv it immediately makes my CRT bleed.
Get it replaced and see if the same thing happens. My PC350 didn't make my Sony CRT bleed.
allargon
12-02-08, 10:28 AM
I finally have a 7.1 setup with a few issues:
LCR - Primus 362
RL and RR - Primus 362
SBL and SBR - Primus 160
Sub - Primus PS-8
Currently running all the 362's on large with the 160's crossed at 60hz, at -22 db on the AVR's meter with a Denon 889. It sounds fantastic with no serious problems with this AV Receiver, but the woofers on the Left / Center / Right Channel's woofer's are wiggling a bit whenever theres a lot of low bass activity without sounding distorted or clipping. Is this ok for the 362's or should I back it down and leave 60hz and below for the subwoofer's job? Cause currently it seems to sound better with all towers set to large than to have my small sub handling the low bass from the mains...
Nice AVR! Methinks you need a new sub, or your sub placement is not right. BTW, recommended home theater crossover is 80Hz.
So after hearing these speakers in person I finally decided to upgrade my setup at home. I purchased the following:
Onkyo TX-SR606
Infinity Primus P362 x2 (Front Left and Front Right)
Now I am not sure what to get for the rears and center. The area this is all going to sit is 15x12 with just two walls. The space from the rear wall and were you sit is really short (just one feet). So I am probably going to need something to mount on the wall for the rear speakers. Unless I can find two speakers with stands. Any suggestions as to what my rear and center speakers should be?
I really just play games (Xbox 360 and PS3) and watch bluray so I am just looking to put a 5.1 setup right now.
lancerjin
12-02-08, 08:14 PM
It is $119 online now. I am still waiting for the $99.:(
P-362 $99 each today. In store only!!
Don't get greedy and come up empty handed...
Brajesh
12-02-08, 08:43 PM
Guys, if I buy 6 P362's as my fronts, sides, and rears in a 7.1 setup, what would you recommend for my center and sub? I can't do another P362 as my center due to space limitations. My receiver is an Onkyo SR806. My room is 16' wide x 17' long x 10' high. I mostly watch Blu-rays and HD DVDs, with SACDs once in a blue moon. Thanks for any suggestions!
The matching center is the Primus C350. But its a big center, very wide.
23.88" W x 7.38" H x 9.25" D
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/details/548250912/infinity-primus-pc350
Harman Audio also has a store on ebay where you can bid on it. Last 12 winning bids have been between $71-$116.50.
As far as subs, depends on your budget. It doesn't need to be an Infinity sub.
Cool so I am going to try to get the C350 from the ebay store. What about for rear speakers, will the P152 be good enough for the back? I don't really have the space to place additional P362 speakers back there. Going to have to wall mount whatever I put in the back.
You could even go with P142 for back speaker. Those go really cheaply on ebay and have built in wall mounts (keyhole slots) and a threaded insert. Honestly not that much info gets sent to the surround speakers. Now if you're listening to multichannel music like SACD, that's a different story. You'll want fuller sounding speakers.
Sweet I will check those out the P142 speakers. I'm really only playing games and tv/movies.
Brajesh
12-02-08, 09:28 PM
Just bought the P362 off eBay for $180 shipped, after Microsoft's 20% cashback deal. Wish I'd hung out here a little longer to catch afrogt's post.
As for the sub, I'd say my budget is $500-700. What would complement my 6 P362's & the P362 well? There are a couple on SVS's website under $700, but I don't have a good idea about subs.
allargon
12-02-08, 10:26 PM
Just bought the P362 off eBay for $180 shipped, after Microsoft's 20% cashback deal. Wish I'd hung out here a little longer to catch afrogt's post.
As for the sub, I'd say my budget is $500-700. What would complement my 6 P362's & the P362 well? There are a couple on SVS's website under $700, but I don't have a good idea about subs.
SVS makes great subs. AV123 does as well. JL Audio makes very pricey subs. It totally depends on your budget, listening habits, etc. You probably want to ask in the subwoofer forum. Based on your room dimensions, I would look at a 15" sub if you have the space.
Coolpplse
12-03-08, 02:38 AM
I finally have a 7.1 setup with a few issues:
LCR - Primus 362
RL and RR - Primus 362
SBL and SBR - Primus 160
Sub - Primus PS-8
Currently running all the 362's on large with the 160's crossed at 60hz, at -22 db on the AVR's meter with a Denon 889. It sounds fantastic with no serious problems with this AV Receiver, but the woofers on the Left / Center / Right Channel's woofer's are wiggling a bit whenever theres a lot of low bass activity without sounding distorted or clipping. Is this ok for the 362's or should I back it down and leave 60hz and below for the subwoofer's job? Cause currently it seems to sound better with all towers set to large than to have my small sub handling the low bass from the mains...
Nice AVR! Methinks you need a new sub, or your sub placement is not right. BTW, recommended home theater crossover is 80Hz.
Thanks, though I was wondering more about whether cone excursion on 6.5inch midrange woofers is a bad thing in the long term... Cause right now all the 362's are sitting very close to the wall and I get alot more room gain with less localized bass, at least compared to the PS-8 sitting in the corner..... though I do feel like switching that PS-8 to a HSU sub in the future
Would 16AWG speaker cable be good enough to run these speakers?
exerciseguy
12-03-08, 05:42 PM
Would 16AWG speaker cable be good enough to run these speakers?
Depends on the length of the run, for 6-12' you should be fine, past that, I'd consider 14AWG up to 20'.
You can use 16ga for a lot longer than 12 feet. See the chart in the article below.
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm
exerciseguy
12-03-08, 06:13 PM
You can use 16ga for a lot longer than 12 feet. See the chart in the article below.
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm
Who you gonna beleive, me or the guy who designed speakers for McIntosh?
driftwood07
12-03-08, 09:49 PM
Just bought the P362 off eBay for $180 shipped, after Microsoft's 20% cashback deal. Wish I'd hung out here a little longer to catch afrogt's post.
As for the sub, I'd say my budget is $500-700. What would complement my 6 P362's & the P362 well? There are a couple on SVS's website under $700, but I don't have a good idea about subs.
i just built a system with 2 362s up front, a onkyo 805 receiver, and a HSU VTF3-MK3 subwoofer:
http://hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-3-mk3.html
i highly recommend this sub as a solid performer - coming from a set of z-5500s and thinking that sub was nice, this blows it out of the universe. i picked it up during a 15% off sale a few weeks ago which made it even better, but i still think it will be worth the 699.
edit: just to avoid confusion, i think you meant to say, " What would complement my 6 P362's & the C350 well? " assuming you have the 362's as surrounds and picked up the C350 center as many here recommended.
driftwood07
12-03-08, 09:55 PM
Hello all,
Could anyone do a quick check of their Primus 362's speaker port breather hole? Mine doesn't have a tubing that extends to anywhere, just the hole molding of the front plastic, and that's it. I was wondering if that would be the cause of the (possibly) excess port noise/chuffing. I bought one a few months ago, and i keep hearing a lot of port noise, even when im sitting on my couch (~6 or 7 feet away). It usually does this particularly when playing classical music with deeper instruments like cellos and the like. I wasn't sure if this is normal or not, because Ive never owned "real" (for my budget ;)) speakers before, just HTiB satellites. It could also be that im feeding too much bass, but even at mid-low volume, and even when the woofer cone is just *barely* vibrating do i hear noise. Is this normal?
(i only have one P362, I'm planning on getting the other this Christmas. But i also have a pair of P142s, and they have port tubing, so not sure if the 362 were to have them or not.)
Thanks in advance for any reply.
nope, just the molding is there on mine too. i sorta wondered about this as well, but since i have a dedicated sub and the crossover set to 80Hz, im not putting any amount of stress on the 362s to play deep bass to get the chuffing. i did however notice a decent amount more air movement when i had the speakers set to 'full band' (meaning the sub was not being used and the speakers would play any frequency) . do you have/plan on getting a dedicated sub?
exerciseguy
12-03-08, 09:56 PM
Just bought the P362 off eBay for $180 shipped, after Microsoft's 20% cashback deal. Wish I'd hung out here a little longer to catch afrogt's post.
As for the sub, I'd say my budget is $500-700. What would complement my 6 P362's & the P362 well? There are a couple on SVS's website under $700, but I don't have a good idea about subs.
Why not pick off a PS212 or two from Harman's ebay auctions?
driftwood07
12-03-08, 10:06 PM
Why not pick off a PS212 or two from Harman's ebay auctions?
i have a roomate with the earlier version of the ps212, its the same, but only 300W instead of 400W i believe. (model is PS12). its definitely nice, but having listened to both i think something larger from hsu or svs would be worth the extra cost, especially if the budget is around 600$ - but for around 200$ used the 212 is a bargain, just might leave you wanting more after a while :rolleyes:
exerciseguy
12-04-08, 08:25 AM
i have a roomate with the earlier version of the ps212, its the same, but only 300W instead of 400W i believe. (model is PS12). its definitely nice, but having listened to both i think something larger from hsu or svs would be worth the extra cost, especially if the budget is around 600$ - but for around 200$ used the 212 is a bargain, just might leave you wanting more after a while :rolleyes:
Perhaps ONE PS212 would (but for the life of me I can't imagine it), but I assure you TWO will leave you checking to see if your filling are still in your teeth. I'm also fairly certain TWO PS212 will run you less than $600. If you can run two subs, I'd suggest you consider it.
I won my PS210 for $103 from a Harman eBay auction..
Brajesh
12-04-08, 09:21 AM
Thanks for the sub suggestions guys. I'm leaning toward av123's MFW-15 if they'll still do the $499 price. If not, I'm looking at the following, in order of preference...
1. Outlaw LFM1 Plus
2. SVS PB12-NSD
3. HSU VTF2 MK3
Brajesh
12-04-08, 09:29 AM
Hmm, just looked at Harman's PS212 subs on eBay. Does look nice, especially for the price. Dumb question ... how would I use 2 subs? Something like a Y-connector? Also, would they be placed on opposite sides of the room?
Hmm, just looked at Harman's PS212 subs on eBay. Does look nice, especially for the price. Dumb question ... how would I use 2 subs? Something like a Y-connector? Also, would they be placed on opposite sides of the room?
A RCA Y-connector is all you need, run one to each sub's LFE input.
This article might help you with placement recommendations.
http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/get-good-bass/subwoofer-connection-guide/
Brajesh
12-04-08, 11:08 AM
Good read; thanks!
markwriter
12-04-08, 12:30 PM
Perhaps ONE PS212 would (but for the life of me I can't imagine it)
One thing that will limit the performance of any sub is placement. If a sub is in the wrong place in the room, and your sitting position just happens to be in a trough or a null, then nothing can help but to move the sub. I've got two CSW-10's, but I have zero placement flexibility. The bass at the listening position is good, but the bass in certain parts of the room is to die for.
That said, I'd second the notion of buying Infinity subs. Those guys don't mess around. If you value fidelity, an Infinity product at over 50% off is hard to beat. Buying two subs will give you much more ability to make sure the bass response is smoother at your listening position than one supposedly better sub. In my case, the two subs work better than one, but since I can't move them around I'm left knowing things could be a little better if I didn't have to accommodate pesky things like furniture and fireplaces.
Just hooked up my p142 that i got off ebay store. WOW!!! These speakers sound fantastic!!! Cant beleive the amount of sound and 0 distortion out of these little things!!!
Now i am thinking i should have gone bigger. How much of a difference are the 162s to the 142s? are they alot louder?
Was thinking i could use the 142s as rears and buy a pair of 162s as the fronts and what should i get for the center? The pc350?
markwriter
12-04-08, 03:02 PM
Just hooked up my p142 that i got off ebay store. WOW!!! These speakers sound fantastic!!! Cant beleive the amount of sound and 0 distortion out of these little things!!!
Now i am thinking i should have gone bigger. How much of a difference are the 162s to the 142s? are they alot louder?
Was thinking i could use the 142s as rears and buy a pair of 162s as the fronts and what should i get for the center? The pc350?
Hey, I have a pair of 140's and I have an alternate (read it in the mapleshade catalog) placement I do with them occasionally: place them on the floor and tilt them up at you by placing something under the front of each speaker. Also toe them in so they point at your ears (LHS points at left ear, RHS points at right). The image is low, but the bass response is pretty impressive for such a small speaker.
to answer your question, the larger speakers do play louder and deeper. Three 152's or 162's across the front would be great. But the 140's are very satisfying speakers.
Was thinking i could use the 142s as rears and buy a pair of 162s as the fronts and what should i get for the center? The pc350?
You probably don't need to go all the way up to the 350 as a center for the 162s, the Primus c250 would probably do the trick. But if you want to spend the money, by all means get the c350.
MobiusBP
12-04-08, 08:43 PM
driftwood07nope, just the molding is there on mine too. i sorta wondered about this as well, but since i have a dedicated sub and the crossover set to 80Hz, im not putting any amount of stress on the 362s to play deep bass to get the chuffing. i did however notice a decent amount more air movement when i had the speakers set to 'full band' (meaning the sub was not being used and the speakers would play any frequency) . do you have/plan on getting a dedicated sub?
Thanks for the reply, and yeah, I plan to purchase a sub next Christmas, which leads me to my next question . . .
exerciseguyPerhaps ONE PS212 would (but for the life of me I can't imagine it), but I assure you TWO will leave you checking to see if your filling are still in your teeth. I'm also fairly certain TWO PS212 will run you less than $600. If you can run two subs, I'd suggest you consider it.
I won my PS210 for $103 from a Harman eBay auction..
Hello excercizeguy, would you mind posting impressions of it when u receive the PS210? im debating weather or not I should go with one HSU STF-2(~$383 incl. s&h), or two Infinity PS210's(i've seen many go for less then $150 {before this Christmas season}, so maybe ~$365 incl. s&h).
Hi everyone I'm thinking about getting 3x P362s as the front stage. My question is this: would it work to lay one P362 on its side to use it as the center channel?
markwriter
12-06-08, 11:58 PM
Hi everyone I'm thinking about getting 3x P362s as the front stage. My question is this: would it work to lay one P362 on its side to use it as the center channel?
No, they're not designed to play horizontally. The dispersion would be all messed up and there would be cancellation patterns.
ousooner2
12-07-08, 12:11 AM
But....to add on to Markwriter......if you can stand up your center then that would be the best setup you could do. Your whole front soundstage would be matched.
ChiCarpenter84
12-07-08, 10:30 AM
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I was going back and forth on picking up the pc350 center or the beta c360. I have 4 p362's just picked up. I no I've been reading and a lot said go with another 362 for center if there's room. Only way I see this working is wall mounting the LCD higher than the p362. Well that's not going to happen I'd like too but just not right for where the TV room is but then again I wont have to go buy a new TV stand. I just cant find a stand that can fit my TV and have 3 shelves to fit all the audio/video under it.
Well I think I'm gonna stick within the line and go with the pc350 anyone wall mount this. I'm sure I could rig something up if I new how the inside looks but than again this thing is what 30ibs or so. That's why I was going for 3 shelves so one can hold this center. I don't think I'd like a shelf over the TV holding it up but I might have too.
How would the p162s work in the backs or p152s for $10each less. Anyone mount these.
If you can mount these what kind of shelves are people using to hold them up.
Thanks
driftwood07
12-07-08, 02:08 PM
as far as mounting the pc350 center, it can be done extremely easily and cheaply with a shelf board and 2 elbow brackets from home depot. (just need a drill) i think it looks alrite mounted above a television as well. here is a picture of my roomates setup for something you can consider:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8760/picture036po9.jpg
But....to add on to Markwriter......if you can stand up your center then that would be the best setup you could do. Your whole front soundstage would be matched.
I could do this but it would be hidden behind a projector screen.
Could I place the speaker upside down so the speakers wouldn't be hidden behind the screen?
ChiCarpenter84
12-07-08, 04:26 PM
Yea doesn't look that bad. I wouldn't go with the bracket look though (it is faster and cheaper). I'd make one of those floating shelves I've made them before for some people I think that might look cleaner. I'd build a TV stand but I like the metal/glass look better than wood.
No, they're not designed to play horizontally. The dispersion would be all messed up and there would be cancellation patterns.
So would that happen if u had them sitting verticaly and you laid on the floor?:p
ousooner2
12-08-08, 02:15 PM
So would that happen if u had them sitting verticaly and you laid on the floor?:p
Gasp!:eek: Haha thats funny:D
You sound like me, always a smart ass comment for everything...love it
PS- Im not taking offers for charity...." I need some Infinity Primus Speakers Now!" Thank you
markwriter
12-08-08, 04:26 PM
So would that happen if u had them sitting verticaly and you laid on the floor?:p
Don't do it!!! You could suffer lasting ear damage. You shouldn't even joke about it. What if a kid is reading this and tries it?
<just kidding...>
My system redo....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/importkrawler/DSC_1658.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/importkrawler/DSC_1668.jpg
markwriter
12-11-08, 05:03 PM
What is the redo part? Are those the modded 362's?
Hey, you have the Behringer, don't you? Cool amp!
What is the redo part? Are those the modded 362's?
Hey, you have the Behringer, don't you? Cool amp!
Had to move the system out of the dedicated room, the Yamaha RX-V663 replaced the HK 330 and the Emotiva LPA-1 replaced the 3x BPA-1 amps.
Yup the EP2500 is powering the subs.
ousooner2
12-11-08, 06:56 PM
So the TSC floorstanders have been getting alot of praise latley and I was wondering if anyone has done a comparison of the two? I've always liked Infinity products and now seems like the time to just on the 362's at Frys.com. I thought I was set on BIC Acoustech but infinity has a midrange and far superior engineering supposedly. Im a college student on a budget and im just trying to determine whats going to be best for my money. Gaming, HT, and Music....can't decide between like Polk Monitor 50's, Primus 362's, TSC towers, ugh!!! Thanks for any help guys!
It doesn't matter what people think, praise, or like. It just really matters is what YOU like. No matter which speaker brand it is, it's going to get praises no matter the brand.
I have heard praises from Bose, $20 computer speakers from Logitech, $30 store brand speakers to thousands of dollar speakers. You have to take into account to why some of these people are praising them. May be it's their first system and they are comparing them to HTiB. Maybe they have something to gain. Maybe it just fits their tastes. People keep saying that it sounds better or as good as these brands that cost 3X more. But is it really?
By going in circles and the way things stand. Some of these models will no longer in production or no longer on sale by the time you make up your mind. Go audition them and buy the one YOU like and not worry so much about what other people think. There will always be the next flavor of the month speakers right around the corner. For me, as long as it sounds good to me....the rest is ALL ABOUT THE BEST BANG FOR MY DOLLAR.
markwriter
12-11-08, 07:52 PM
So I thought I was set on BIC Acoustech but infinity has a midrange and far superior engineering supposedly.
Not supposedly, definitely. Read this to see what I mean (http://svconline.com/mag/avinstall_listening_evaluation/).
I can sympathize with your dilemma. When it comes to loudspeakers, who can you trust? You don't have a facility for accurate, level matched double-blind testing, so you're going to have a hard time getting to the bottom of which speaker is the best at a given price point. Also, you don't have unlimited time to test the speakers first hand. That said, there are things you can do to increase your chances of finding the best audio value for your dollar. One of those things is to set aside the reviews and debates and read up on how speakers are made. It may take a little more time and effort than just reading reviews and looking at specs, but in the end it is well worth it. Here are some worthwhile articles for you to consider. But first a quote from one of planet earth's foremost authorities, Dr. Floyd Toole:
"Serious loudspeaker manufacturers need to be able to see, in measurements, anything that might result in an audible defect. In terms of the measurement of frequency response, it means expensive anechoic chambers, facilities for gathering data over an entire sphere, and elaborate post-processing of the data. Doing this quickly and accurately is neither inexpensive nor simple. (http://www.infinitysystems.com/home/technology/whitepapers/audio_art_science.pdf)"
Articles:
Interview with Kevin Voecks of Revel...includes much commentary on how speakers are designed, manfactured and evaluated. (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_11_2/feature-interview-kevin-voecks-4-2004.html)
Harman Infinity White Papers (http://www.infinitysystems.com/home/technology/technology_whitepapers.aspx?Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA)
Here's a summary of the papers:
Audio Art and Science: This paper reviews scientific work performed by Dr. Floyd Toole and his colleagues that aimed to determine the extent to which listeners agreed on their preferences in sound quality and, beyond that, to identify relationships between listener preferences and measurable performance parameters of loudspeakers.
Adobe PDF format 131KB
Loudspeakers and Rooms - Working Together: In this paper we will attempt to make the best of this imperfect system by identifying the major variables in the loudspeaker/room system, and discussing methods for their measurement and control.
Adobe PDF format 167KB
The Acoustical Design of Home Theaters: A companion paper to Loudspeakers and Rooms - Working Together, this paper focuses on the design of home theater loudspeaker systems and listening rooms.
Adobe PDF format 110KB
Understanding Room Acoustics and Speaker Placement: The room is the final audio component and, as such, it can make or break a listening experience. This paper discusses some simple techniques for enhancing your listening room for maximum performance.
Adobe PDF format 149KB
Loudspeakers and Rooms for Multichannel Audio Reproduction by Floyd E. Toole, Vice President Acoustical Engineering, Harman International: Here we look at the basic theory of multichannel audio systems, leading us to understand why certain loudspeaker designs and room arrangements work better than others.
Part 1 - How many loudspeakers? What kind? Where do I put them?
Part 2 - Making a good loudspeaker - Imaging, space and great sound in rooms.
Part 3 - Getting the Bass Right.
Hey what did you guys put under your center channel to adjust it?
Hey what did you guys put under your center channel to adjust it?
This is what I used.
http://store.audioholics.com/product/1430/66200/auralex-mopad-monitor-isolation-pads--set-of-2-
ousooner2
12-11-08, 09:32 PM
It doesn't matter what people think, praise, or like. It just really matters is what YOU like. No matter which speaker brand it is, it's going to get praises no matter the brand.
I have heard praises from Bose, $20 computer speakers from Logitech, $30 store brand speakers to thousands of dollar speakers. You have to take into account to why some of these people are praising them. May be it's their first system and they are comparing them to HTiB. Maybe they have something to gain. Maybe it just fits their tastes. People keep saying that it sounds better or as good as these brands that cost 3X more. But is it really?
By going in circles and the way things stand. Some of these models will no longer in production or no longer on sale by the time you make up your mind. Go audition them and buy the one YOU like and not worry so much about what other people think. There will always be the next flavor of the month speakers right around the corner. For me, as long as it sounds good to me....the rest is ALL ABOUT THE BEST BANG FOR MY DOLLAR.
Thanks for the advice!! I meant to add though, that I can't really audition any of these because there are no shops around here (norman, oklahoma) that carry...well..any of those! I sucks and I wish I could audition some speakers SOMEWHERE but its just not going to happen. There is an Ultimate Electronics around me which carries the Primus line but i dont think they have the 362's. Not sure though. Im getting so frustrated im about to just buy a HTIB or but a $100 receiver and get like 3 pairs of those Insignia speakers and call it a day. I dont need the complete best b/c I am in college, but I figure why not start right now. Whew...sorry for the long read!:eek:
markwriter
12-11-08, 11:43 PM
I can't really audition any of these because there are no shops around here (norman, oklahoma) that carry...well..any of those!
I don't know if it's any comfort, but even if you could go listen to speakers in a store, it doesn't tell you too much. That's why so many of us buy and sell...we want to be able to get a pair of speakers (or other equipment) and evaluate it long-term in the acoustic environment in which we live.
Another thing that may comfort you is that there is a law of diminishing returns that kicks in really fast. In my case, I had to get $4,000 Revel F32's in order to have a product that beat the Primus 360 in every category. So if you get some 362's, or some Energy's, or other competently designed and manufactured speakers, you'll get a great deal of enjoyment out of them, and you can rest assured that you'll have to spend something along an order of magnitude in order to see drastic improvement.
One way to look at it is to keep an eye out for the mega-value speakers such as the Energy C-100 or the Primus 150. Those will at least get you into the realm of hi-fi, and you can likely score a used pair for around $100. Then you don't have to feel like you're making a life-altering commitment.
Here's a guy in Norman who has some JBL 6325's...very nice small studio monitors.
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ele/949156524.html
Here's the spec sheet and info. These are very serious speakers. Look at the frequency response info:
http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/support/getfile.aspx?doctype=3&docid=567
http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/General/Product.aspx?PId=24&MId=5
You could also consider heading down to Big D. That would be another huge market to pull from.
Well, since trying to find a set of Advent H-500's is pretty much impossible now, we are looking for something comparable and came across a few threads recommending the P362's...
So we went down to Fry's here in Vegas and gave them a test run. Pretty impressive for the price ($120/ea)...obviously, they aren't the same as a $2k speaker, but PLENTY good for our neophyte ears.
The one thing that we noticed, though, is that when coupled w/ the PC250 for the center, and a Denon 3808, the 250 just got walked all over by the 362's. This obviously is a serious concern to us, seeing as the 250 really seemed almost not there.
Tell me that there is a considerable difference between the 250 and the 350...Fry's doesn't carry the 350, but I can find it at a number of other places.
Anyone? I'll hang up and listen, thanks!
blued888
12-12-08, 01:50 PM
Tell me that there is a considerable difference between the 250 and the 350...Fry's doesn't carry the 350, but I can find it at a number of other places.
Anyone? I'll hang up and listen, thanks!
I got my P362s for $180 each and I don't have any complaints. Definitely satisfied with the product.
As for your center speaker woes, I think the PC350 will better match the P362, I have the PC350 and chose it over the PC250 because of the additional dual 3-inch midrange drivers. It's huge though.
I got my P362s for $180 each and I don't have any complaints. Definitely satisfied with the product.
As for your center speaker woes, I think the PC350 will better match the P362, I have the PC350 and chose it over the PC250 because of the additional dual 3-inch midrange drivers. It's huge though.
Luckily, after typing out my prior questions, I found another store, locally, that I can demo the PC350 w/ the 362's, so we're heading there in a couple of hours to give it a go. If it does make that big of a difference, we'll be picking up all 3 today.
Now just have to grab our Onkyo 875 and our sub....
blued888
12-12-08, 02:05 PM
Luckily, after typing out my prior questions, I found another store, locally, that I can demo the PC350 w/ the 362's, so we're heading there in a couple of hours to give it a go. If it does make that big of a difference, we'll be picking up all 3 today.
Now just have to grab our Onkyo 875 and our sub....
Do note also that when you setup your speakers, it will greatly help if you use a SPL meter to calibrate your speakers so that each and every one of them will be at the same sound pressure level at listening position. :)
ousooner2
12-12-08, 03:31 PM
Quick Question For Everyone!!
How much of a difference will the Primus 252's sound compared to the 362's?? I have a store near by that has the 252's but they can only order the 362's so I was going to go see how they sound. I understand the only differences are probably the size of woofers and no midrange woofer in the 252's. Thanks for the help guys
Do note also that when you setup your speakers, it will greatly help if you use a SPL meter to calibrate your speakers so that each and every one of them will be at the same sound pressure level at listening position. :)
Doesn't the calibration of the Onkyo 875 do the calibration for me?
blued888
12-12-08, 03:42 PM
Doesn't the calibration of the Onkyo 875 do the calibration for me?
Yes, Audyssey can calibrate it for you but I figure when you audition at stores, they might not be at your optimal listening conditions.
I just got my PC350 and placed it next to the P362. Boy what a difference, was using a P142 as my center channel while I waited. :)
Luckily, after typing out my prior questions, I found another store, locally, that I can demo the PC350 w/ the 362's, so we're heading there in a couple of hours to give it a go. If it does make that big of a difference, we'll be picking up all 3 today.
Now just have to grab our Onkyo 875 and our sub....
yeah, the flake I spoke to on the phone can't tell the difference, apparently between "in stock" and "special order" on his computer screen. So yeah, no demo'ing for us :mad::mad::mad:
Gotta love buying things w/o demo'ing...
:o
GLBright
12-12-08, 06:26 PM
Gotta love buying things w/o demo'ing...
Don't feel too bad. I bought my first Infinity speakers - Overture 3s - off the internet with nothing but a hope and a prayer. I just thought they looked so cool, and I knew Floyd Toole (not even sure he was in on the design of them) wouldn't steer me wrong. When I decided to move on I knew the Infinity sound was one I liked, so again I bought IL-60s sound unheard. Still not disappointed; and I know, way down deep, that there was no way I could have gotten better "bang for the buck". Maybe I'm simple and stupid, but something worked out right anyway.
markwriter
12-12-08, 06:32 PM
When I decided to move on I knew the Infinity sound was one I liked, so again I bought IL-60s sound unheard. Still not disappointed; and I know, way down deep, that there was no way I could have gotten better "bang for the buck". Maybe I'm simple and stupid, but something worked out right anyway.
You made a smart bet: some of the world's foremost speaker experts were using some of the world's best technology to produce a flagship product for a middle-tier line (Interlude). Though it was possible for them to produce a dud, it was highly unlikely. That methodology works better than reading reviews.
jnickrand
12-12-08, 07:49 PM
My infinity beta 20's are "good" speakers. I think they are a nice bargain at $40-120 each on the used market/ebay. However they sit in my basement mostly un-used as similarily priced Polks & PSB get the everday duty in my living room. Nothing is necessarily wrong with the Beta's, but they don't blow any of these other <$500 speakers away either.
I'm a fan of Infinity and "bang for you buck" speakers but I think some have taken things to the absurd.
My infinity beta 20's are "good" speakers. I think they are a nice bargain at $40-120 each on the used market/ebay. However they sit in my basement mostly un-used as similarily priced Polks & PSB get the everday duty in my living room. Nothing is necessarily wrong with the Beta's, but they don't blow any of these other <$500 speakers away either.
I'm a fan of Infinity and "bang for you buck" speakers but I think some have taken things to the absurd.
I cannot speaker for the Beta series in this instant but would like to comment on the Primus line for a moment.
I didn't move to the Infinity Primus series on a whim. I did months of research and found through credible third party measurements and Dr. Toole's own work on audio reproduction that these speakers are extraordinary regardless of what their meager price suggests.
The Infinity is one of the best in this price point in regards to designing strictly according to the perceptual texts, at least as closely as the price point allowed them.
They also happen to use an extraordinary quality mid-range on this unit. The mid on here would be perfectly at home on a $30K speaker set, except for the fact is uses a steel frame instead of a aluminum one, which would look a bit out of place on a $30K speaker system. But so far as measured performance of that mid, while not the best, it's excellent and can be a perfectly transparent mid(really) if used properly within it's optimal bandwidth.
Are their faults in the the Primus series, you bet but they are truly exceptional speakers for the money....and that is backed, unlike many other speakers, by scientific research.
Tacoboy
12-13-08, 12:17 AM
Well, since trying to find a set of Advent H-500's is pretty much impossible now, we are looking for something comparable and came across a few threads recommending the P362's...
So we went down to Fry's here in Vegas and gave them a test run. Pretty impressive for the price ($120/ea)...obviously, they aren't the same as a $2k speaker, but PLENTY good for our neophyte ears.
The one thing that we noticed, though, is that when coupled w/ the PC250 for the center, and a Denon 3808, the 250 just got walked all over by the 362's. This obviously is a serious concern to us, seeing as the 250 really seemed almost not there.
Tell me that there is a considerable difference between the 250 and the 350...Fry's doesn't carry the 350, but I can find it at a number of other places.
Anyone? I'll hang up and listen, thanks!
EBay, the seller "Harmon Audio" sells new and refurbished C350.
okfireman
12-13-08, 02:51 PM
Would I be ok pairing the p362's with the dipole/bipole surrounds made by The Speaker Company (TSS)?
delerue57
12-13-08, 06:42 PM
As of today (12/13/08), Fry's is selling the 362 for $119.99 each. Not as good as the previous deal ($99.99) but they have this unit in stock to go or to pick up in store if you wish. If only I could scrounge up enough doughs to get a second pair for the rear channels :(
ousooner2
12-13-08, 08:08 PM
As of today (12/13/08), Fry's is selling the 362 for $119.99 each. Not as good as the previous deal ($99.99) but they have this unit in stock to go or to pick up in store if you wish. If only I could scrounge up enough doughs to get a second pair for the rear channels :(
How do you like them as your mains?? Very very close to getting these boys
driftwood07
12-13-08, 09:16 PM
How do you like them as your mains?? Very very close to getting these boys
I hopped on 2 of them when they were 99$ last time around on frys. At that price point they are /well/ worth the money, at 120$ they are still easily worth this - I recommend getting 4 (for surrounds) if the budget allows - even better, get 5 and use one as a center. Going from some z-5500s to these and a Hsu Vtf3-mk3 is a /major/ upgrade.
blued888
12-13-08, 09:56 PM
How do you like them as your mains?? Very very close to getting these boys
I actually got my P362s for $180 each and I don't have any complaints. I love the dedicated midrange driver! :D
okfireman
12-13-08, 09:58 PM
I actually got my P362s for $180 each and I don't have any complaints. I love the dedicated midrange driver! :D
Do they output enough bass to get by without a sub for awhile?
blued888
12-13-08, 10:21 PM
Do they output enough bass to get by without a sub for awhile?
I'm not using it for 2-ch audio or large setting for HT, all speakers set to small for HT with 80Hz crossover. Recently acquired a Yamaha RX-V663. Will try to give it a listen and give you a reply in a few hours. :)
EDIT: okfireman, I find the P362s adequate enough to be used without a subwoofer for 2-ch listening. But of course what I may find adequate, you may find lacking. I used 2-ch Pure Direct mode on my 663 when I listened. It would still be better if you yourself can give it a listen. Hope this helps! :)
markwriter
12-13-08, 10:52 PM
I find the P362s adequate enough to be used without a subwoofer for 2-ch listening.
I found them great as well. Bass is one of the areas that the 360 hung with
any of the $500 to $1500 speakers. It took the Revel F32's at $4k to clearly better their bass proficiency.
blued888
12-13-08, 11:05 PM
I found them great as well. This is one of the areas that the 360 hung with
any of the $500 to $1500 speakers. It took the Revel F32's at $4k to clearly better their bass proficiency.
I am also actually fine with setting the PC350 and P362 as large just in case I have to go without a subwoofer for HT, but of course it would strain my receiver more.
okfireman, I would suggest you go to the nearest Fry's Electronics at your location and give these P362s a listen. Ask if you can tinker with the receiver settings so you know exactly how your are listening to them.
delerue57
12-13-08, 11:20 PM
How do you like them as your mains?? Very very close to getting these boys
No complaint whatsoever! Some people might want the thunderous earthshaking bass and require a subwoofer. For me, the low frequency response is tight and clean enough so the P362 is more than adequate for my listening purpose. Highly recommended at that price range !!!
okfireman
12-13-08, 11:52 PM
okfireman, I would suggest you go to the nearest Fry's Electronics at your location and give these P362s a listen. Ask if you can tinker with the receiver settings so you know exactly how your are listening to them.
Unfortunatly the closet fry's is in the next state and good 3 hour trip away from where I am. I am having a problem demoing speakers because I cant find a place to audition speakers.
driftwood07
12-14-08, 03:37 PM
Do they output enough bass to get by without a sub for awhile?
I usually run a 2.1 setup with the 362's crossed over at 80Hz and they are wonderful here. When running in Pure Audio mode, the sub gets left out and its only the 362's. They do extremely well here too and the sound is very tight with rock music. The only way you will be dissapointed is if you are a bass nut and/or only listen to bass-driven techno or rap.
okfireman
12-14-08, 03:42 PM
I usually run a 2.1 setup with the 362's crossed over at 80Hz and they are wonderful here. When running in Pure Audio mode, the sub gets left out and its only the 362's. They do extremely well here too and the sound is very tight with rock music. The only way you will be dissapointed is if you are a bass nut and/or only listen to bass-driven techno or rap.
Actually they wont be used for music listening much at all. They will primarily be used for dvd/tv and gaming. Will they be ok for this or are they better for music.
GLBright
12-14-08, 05:48 PM
Actually they wont be used for music listening much at all. They will primarily be used for dvd/tv and gaming. Will they be ok for this or are they better for music.
An accurate speaker is an accurate speaker, no matter how it's used. Generally speaking, precise music reproduction is more demanding than home theater use. I've never heard a good speaker for music do badly in a home theater setting. But if you have some favorite music take the time to listen. You should be pleased.
Knucklehead90
12-14-08, 09:53 PM
Don't feel too bad. I bought my first Infinity speakers - Overture 3s - off the internet with nothing but a hope and a prayer. I just thought they looked so cool, and I knew Floyd Toole (not even sure he was in on the design of them) wouldn't steer me wrong. When I decided to move on I knew the Infinity sound was one I liked, so again I bought IL-60s sound unheard. Still not disappointed; and I know, way down deep, that there was no way I could have gotten better "bang for the buck". Maybe I'm simple and stupid, but something worked out right anyway.
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Sounds as if you feel about your Interludes like I do about my Interludes, IL40s and IL30s.
I've had the IL40s since new about 6-7 years ago. I bought IL50s at the same time, and used them in front with the IL40s at the rear driven by an HK AVR520. I knew when I go them adjusted properly(rabos) that I had a killer sound system. I've since sold the IL50s to a friend who continues to enjoy them. When I retired I bought a smaller house and these speakers are big.
So now I've finally found, just a couple of months ago, a set of IL30s, in like new condition. My setup is complete. I'm in total agreement with you about the Interlude series. They just don't make speakers like this anymore.
I've bought an Emotiva UPA-7 to drive the Interludes with and they sound even better than before!
I'm sure the Primus P362s are a fine example of Infinity's continuing efforts to give the consumer the best speaker for the money. If I need new speakers somewhere along the way, they will likely be Infinity speakers. I like the way they sound.
Maybe I should consider buying a pair of P362s for the day when the ILs wear out.
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Sounds as if you feel about your Interludes like I do about my Interludes, IL40s and IL30s.
I've had the IL40s since new about 6-7 years ago. I bought IL50s at the same time, and used them in front with the IL40s at the rear driven by an HK AVR520. I knew when I go them adjusted properly(rabos) that I had a killer sound system. I've since sold the IL50s to a friend who continues to enjoy them. When I retired I bought a smaller house and these speakers are big.
So now I've finally found, just a couple of months ago, a set of IL30s, in like new condition. My setup is complete. I'm in total agreement with you about the Interlude series. They just don't make speakers like this anymore.
I've bought an Emotiva UPA-7 to drive the Interludes with and they sound even better than before!
I'm sure the Primus P362s are a fine example of Infinity's continuing efforts to give the consumer the best speaker for the money. If I need new speakers somewhere along the way, they will likely be Infinity speakers. I like the way they sound.
Maybe I should consider buying a pair of P362s for the day when the ILs wear out.
For the price they're going for @ Fry's, I would. I mean, we just bought 4 P362's for the mains and sides...too good a price to NOT get them. Keep in mind we're neophytes when it come to speakers and HT in general, but I sure liked what I heard when we demo'd them.
okfireman
12-14-08, 11:38 PM
For the price they're going for @ Fry's, I would. I mean, we just bought 4 P362's for the mains and sides...too good a price to NOT get them. Keep in mind we're neophytes when it come to speakers and HT in general, but I sure liked what I heard when we demo'd them.
Do you have it hooked up yet and how does it sound?
Do you have it hooked up yet and how does it sound?
Unfortunately, no. I'm going to have to wait all the way until Wed or Thurs:(
I know you're having a helluva time demo'ing them, but I mentioned earlier (maybe a different thread? been doing a LOT of reading the last week or so), that although the gf and I are definitely speaker and HT neophytes, we listened to these as well a few far more expensive floor standers, including Polk RTi-A9's, and while they were definitely more full, esp in the mid's, they weren't SO much better than it warranted a x7 price.
One thing to PLEASE keep in mind is that we demo'd them w/ a PC250 Center and the 250 got walked all over the P362's while in a 3.1 config. Therefore, we went ahead and bought a PC350 Center and that should make a HUGE difference. At least we hope that it does. Also, since we also got an Onkyo 876 to power everything, we're obviously going to be using the Audyssey XT to calibrate it to our room, so that should def. help.
Here is our entire HT:
Mitsubishi WD-65831
PS3
XBOX 360
Onkyo 876
Infinity P362's (One set for mains and one set for sides)
Infinity PC 350 (Center)
ED A2-300 (Sub)
And if we decide to go w/ a 7.1 system and not sell these, then we have a set of Advent Heritage H-200's for rears.
And like I said above, I should have everything (sans sub...since they custom make these and could be a few weeks still on that) this Wed. or Thurs. and since I play poker for a living, I can take the day off that all this gets here and can report back w/ pics! :)
Again, I'm new to all this, but I'll give you my feedback, fwiw, if you want, then.
okfireman
12-15-08, 01:01 AM
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And like I said above, I should have everything (sans sub...since they custom make these and could be a few weeks still on that) this Wed. or Thurs. and since I play poker for a living, I can take the day off that all this gets here and can report back w/ pics! :)
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How much does that sub run and where did you get it?
Where do you play poker?
[QUOTE=eapeas;15299581]
And like I said above, I should have everything (sans sub...since they custom make these and could be a few weeks still on that) this Wed. or Thurs. and since I play poker for a living, I can take the day off that all this gets here and can report back w/ pics! :)
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How much does that sub run and where did you get it?
Where do you play poker?
I got it from their website based on the overwhelming RAVING reviews it got here as the single best sub-$400 sub on the market.
Check out ElementalDesigns.com ($350).
And I live in Vegas...so all over. But mostly online and FullTilt.
Knucklehead90
12-15-08, 02:50 AM
[quote=okfireman;15299688]
I got it from their website based on the overwhelming RAVING reviews it got here as the single best sub-$400 sub on the market.
Check out ElementalDesigns.com ($350).
And I live in Vegas...so all over. But mostly online and FullTilt.
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Sounds like you will have one awesome sound system when its set up.
The Infinity speakers are the best bargain going right now. I've had mine for about 8 years now and they still play like new. I have the Interlude series speakers.
Right now, it looks like the Infinity P362's are going for 119 at Fry's here in Socal. Does anyone know if they've been on sale for 99 recently? I'm wondering if I'll be waiting long for them.
rangaswamy
12-15-08, 04:06 PM
I have owned a set of P362B and right now they are operating on a 2.0 setup. I have been looking to add a center and surrounds.
The center is the most imp and i want to get that right. has anyone tried using a POLK Csi5 as the center? i Know the PC250 is probably not the best match for the P362. Im getting the polk at a good deal and also the PC350 is a lil expensive.
My living room is about 15X20 in size, i dont intend to turn up the volume very high.
i will also be using Polk surrounds. My system is still being pieced together as you can see. if you dont have personal experience using these two together, can some one point me in the right direction so i know what to look for in specfications?
Thanks
AR
I have owned a set of P362B and right now they are operating on a 2.0 setup. I have been looking to add a center and surrounds.
The center is the most imp and i want to get that right. has anyone tried using a POLK Csi5 as the center? i Know the PC250 is probably not the best match for the P362. Im getting the polk at a good deal and also the PC350 is a lil expensive.
My living room is about 15X20 in size, i dont intend to turn up the volume very high.
i will also be using Polk surrounds. My system is still being pieced together as you can see. if you dont have personal experience using these two together, can some one point me in the right direction so i know what to look for in specfications?
Thanks
AR
FWIW, everything, and I mean, EVERYTHING I've read indicates that your front 3 speakers (mains and center) should all match for a plethora of reasons. So going w/ different series from the same manufacture is usually a bad idea, so going w/ a whole different brand for the center is a bad idea as well. Timber matching amoung other reasons were given for why to match them up. Search around and read up and make your own decision. GL!
rangaswamy
12-15-08, 04:32 PM
FWIW, everything, and I mean, EVERYTHING I've read indicates that your front 3 speakers (mains and center) should all match for a plethora of reasons. So going w/ different series from the same manufacture is usually a bad idea, so going w/ a whole different brand for the center is a bad idea as well. Timber matching amoung other reasons were given for why to match them up. Search around and read up and make your own decision. GL!
Thanks for your input. i have read about this too but never gave it so much importance. From mainly a cost perspective, i have been trying to match up with all other brands available on craigslist. i should probably invest in a good center. I didnt even know what was timbre matching... thanks!!
Anand
okfireman
12-17-08, 12:54 PM
anybody no where to get the p362's for a descent price? Frys is no longer on sale. Or does anyone no how often frys runs these speakers on sale?
I have owned a set of P362B and right now they are operating on a 2.0 setup. I have been looking to add a center and surrounds.
The center is the most imp and i want to get that right. has anyone tried using a POLK Csi5 as the center? i Know the PC250 is probably not the best match for the P362. Im getting the polk at a good deal and also the PC350 is a lil expensive.
My living room is about 15X20 in size, i dont intend to turn up the volume very high.
i will also be using Polk surrounds. My system is still being pieced together as you can see. if you dont have personal experience using these two together, can some one point me in the right direction so i know what to look for in specfications?
Thanks
AR
Watch the Harmon Kardon Ebay store for the PC350. I was able to get mine for $135.
anybody no where to get the p362's for a descent price? Frys is no longer on sale. Or does anyone no how often frys runs these speakers on sale?
The sales happen every week and the P362 are on sale about every two-three weeks.
allargon
12-17-08, 01:55 PM
I have owned a set of P362B and right now they are operating on a 2.0 setup. I have been looking to add a center and surrounds.
The center is the most imp and i want to get that right. has anyone tried using a POLK Csi5 as the center? i Know the PC250 is probably not the best match for the P362. Im getting the polk at a good deal and also the PC350 is a lil expensive.
My living room is about 15X20 in size, i dont intend to turn up the volume very high.
i will also be using Polk surrounds. My system is still being pieced together as you can see. if you dont have personal experience using these two together, can some one point me in the right direction so i know what to look for in specfications?
Thanks
AR
The PC250 is not great, but it's not that horrible. It does match. I have no idea how well the Polk would match. Volume will be fine. I have a much larger great room, and I can generally hear voices without a problem (except for Warner high def movies where I have to turn everything up due to the lovely piece of hell known as dialnorm). It's multichannel music as well as off-axis listening where the pricier centers come into play.
anybody no where to get the p362's for a descent price? Frys is no longer on sale. Or does anyone no how often frys runs these speakers on sale?
When is your actual timetable to buy your setup? I know you're in several different threads looking at speakers. Do you have an approximate date as to when you want to pull the trigger? These Fry's sales come and go but if you're not really serious about buying anything right away, I wouldn't stress too much.
ruiz00tx
12-17-08, 02:48 PM
anybody no where to get the p362's for a descent price? Frys is no longer on sale. Or does anyone no how often frys runs these speakers on sale?
I want these bad boys too, but at $129 or $99 a piece, not for $250 to $300 like I've seen online today.
Guess I'll have to visit Fry's once a week. What is the best day of the week to check them out? Do the sales last all week long?
okfireman
12-17-08, 04:25 PM
When is your actual timetable to buy your setup? I know you're in several different threads looking at speakers. Do you have an approximate date as to when you want to pull the trigger? These Fry's sales come and go but if you're not really serious about buying anything right away, I wouldn't stress too much.
I dont have any specific timeline. I can wait if needed. Just wondering how frequently they happen or if someone else runs sales on them.
I want these bad boys too, but at $129 or $99 a piece, not for $250 to $300 like I've seen online today.
Guess I'll have to visit Fry's once a week. What is the best day of the week to check them out? Do the sales last all week long?
I believe they come out on Friday for the weekend deals.
A member on Audioholics posts them every week.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44944
ruiz00tx
12-17-08, 08:23 PM
I believe they come out on Friday for the weekend deals.
A member on Audioholics posts them every week.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44944
Cool site, thanks.
You can also see the daily Fry's newspaper ads here.
http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=32664
Myke256
12-18-08, 05:01 PM
im in a similar situation as the guy above, I bought a pair of the P362's from fry's, but the problem is I have no room for a big center speaker. The P362's are probably too big for my room but I couldn't pass up that deal. So, I currently have a boston acoustics horizon 130 speaker as my center, but I fear it's going to get overwhelmed by the towers. The best 'small' center that would fit my stand that I've heard is the Definitive Tech PC1000. Now, my TV is a CRT [don't have the heart to replace it], so the top is still an option, but it's rounded and I'd need a 'kickstand'. What about the Beta series from Infinity? they seem to be a bit smaller the the Primus, the C250 is relatively cheap on eBay. yea, so in conclusion...I need suggestions :]
allargon
12-18-08, 05:14 PM
im in a similar situation as the guy above, I bought a pair of the P362's from fry's, but the problem is I have no room for a big center speaker. The P362's are probably too big for my room but I couldn't pass up that deal. So, I currently have a boston acoustics horizon 130 speaker as my center, but I fear it's going to get overwhelmed by the towers. The best 'small' center that would fit my stand that I've heard is the Definitive Tech PC1000. Now, my TV is a CRT [don't have the heart to replace it], so the top is still an option, but it's rounded and I'd need a 'kickstand'. What about the Beta series from Infinity? they seem to be a bit smaller the the Primus, the C250 is relatively cheap on eBay. yea, so in conclusion...I need suggestions :]
The Beta would probably be a much better match for the P362's. If the PC250, C250 and PC350 won't work, what about a P162, P152, etc.?
Myke256
12-18-08, 05:28 PM
looks like the beta C250 barely fits after some re-arranging of my other components. looks like I'll be going that route, unfortunately not many Infinity dealers around here and I'm willing to bet the the few here won't carry these any more, any impressions?
and my towers came today but I wasn't home, damn :[
markwriter
12-18-08, 06:30 PM
my towers came today but I wasn't home, damn :[
Those jerks!!! Don't they understand that they are standing in the way of your audiophile nirvana?
To whet your appetite for when you get them:
"note how evenly spaced the contour lines are in this graph, and how consistently the Infinity maintains its off-axis response across the audioband up to 9kHz or so. This means that the reverberant field generated by the speaker in a room will be as uncolored as the on-axis response. Again, this is impressive speaker engineering, even if you don't take the Primus 360's price into account.
This Infinity may be bargain-priced, but it demonstrates extraordinarily competent loudspeaker engineering. I was a little bothered by its lively cabinet but overall the Primus 360 raises the bar for designs that compete at more than twice its price."—John Atkinson
allargon
12-18-08, 06:37 PM
looks like the beta C250 barely fits after some re-arranging of my other components. looks like I'll be going that route, unfortunately not many Infinity dealers around here and I'm willing to bet the the few here won't carry these any more, any impressions?
E-bay, Man... E-bay! Fry's in Austin doesn't even carry the PC250 or the PC350. They have the Beta C250 for like $250 or something like that.
Myke256
12-18-08, 07:42 PM
oh I know, I have some auctions open right now. but I wanted to see/hear them in person.
do you think it's worth it to set them up tomorrow or should I just wait for my new center too? I was thinking I'd break them all in at the same time.
markwriter
12-18-08, 07:54 PM
oh I know, I have some auctions open right now. but I wanted to see/hear them in person.
do you think it's worth it to set them up tomorrow or should I just wait for my new center too? I was thinking I'd break them all in at the same time.
Man, break 'em out!!! The center is going to be anti-climactic anyway. The 362's are the main event. The whole idea of the existence and/or audibility of break-in is highly if not completely silly. Just pop -em out and work on your proper placement. They're very easy to place, but nevertheless it can't hurt to experiment.
I get my Onkyo 876 tomorrow...I've had 4- P362's sitting in my entry way waiting...my center PC350 gets here Monday. No way I could wait til Monday to play around w/ them :)
Myke256
12-19-08, 03:19 PM
come home for my lunch break and they're here, had to haul them up the stairs, pretty heavy. im gonna tell my mom to get me the beta c250 for christmas, ill set everything up than. i can wait a week :]
anyone using the 362's with the alternate feet? any pictures? the gray spiking things kind of annoy me
I got my refurbished PC350 on Ebay from Harman Audio for $125+shipping. Some went for as low as $100.
Bones82
12-20-08, 12:49 AM
I am looking for a smaller set of speakers to make up my home theater system. I was looking at some Energy bookshelfs at 150 a pair. What is something comparable that will go with the PC250 or PC350 center?
blued888
12-20-08, 01:48 AM
I am looking for a smaller set of speakers to make up my home theater system. I was looking at some Energy bookshelfs at 150 a pair. What is something comparable that will go with the PC250 or PC350 center?
P162 or P152 bookshelves.
jcasari
12-21-08, 11:03 AM
I've been looking for a 7.1 system for the dedicated HT room I'm building. Thanks to you guys on this thread I purchased two P362s and a C350 for the center (which is still in the mail...should get here soon). Now I need to fill in the rest. I know that the P162s are recommended but was hoping to do in-wall speakers for the surrounds. Any recommendations on what would go well with my fronts?
Also... any recommendations on a receiver? I'm filling a 14x18 room and am on a limited budget. I keep reading about the Onkyo's, but was not sure which one would give me the best bang for the buck.
I will be adding a sub but have not investigated that yet....
Thanks!
Jorge
I've been looking for a 7.1 system for the dedicated HT room I'm building. Thanks to you guys on this thread I purchased two P362s and a C350 for the center (which is still in the mail...should get here soon). Now I need to fill in the rest. I know that the P162s are recommended but was hoping to do in-wall speakers for the surrounds. Any recommendations on what would go well with my fronts?
Also... any recommendations on a receiver? I'm filling a 14x18 room and am on a limited budget. I keep reading about the Onkyo's, but was not sure which one would give me the best bang for the buck.
I will be adding a sub but have not investigated that yet....
Thanks!
Jorge
A Yamaha 663 or Pioneer 1018 will give you just about everything you need as far as connectivity.
ousooner2
12-22-08, 06:14 PM
Hey guys, I've just come across something and I thought i'd come to you to see if it was a good deal. A guy is selling this setup and I dont know much about them so I was wondering if you could help me.
2- Infinity IL-60 Towers
1- Infinity IL-25C Center
He didn't remember the surrounds model # and I forgot to ask
Sub- IL-100
He was asking like $450 for it all so i was wondering if this is decent stuff?? Im in college so I wasn't going to drop too much money but if this stuff is nice I might try to see what I can do....or can I put something together thats better for the same price? I've been posting in here about the 362's and stuff but I just didn't know about these Interlude speakers. Thanks for the help guys!!:D:D
archer101
12-22-08, 06:57 PM
I just did a google search and the Il60's run 1100 each.
I would say it's a good deal.
http://www.adelcom.net/Infinity-InterludeSeriesFloorstanding.htm
Myke256
12-24-08, 03:38 PM
set it all up a little early..so far so good :]
http://i42.tinypic.com/2w70fao.jpg
ill have the house to myself tonight, I'll spend a little alone time with them :] the only thing I can say so far is that I'd agree with most people who say they feel a bit underpowered without a sub, they just lack the 'oomph' by themselves. luckily I have a nice 40 pound sub
GLBright
12-24-08, 09:52 PM
2- Infinity IL-60 Towers
1- Infinity IL-25C Center
He didn't remember the surrounds model # and I forgot to ask
Sub- IL-100
He was asking like $450 for it all so i was wondering if this is decent stuff??
I have a pair of IL-60s and I wouldn't let ONE of them go for $450. He's giving them away. Run, run, run as fast as you can!
GLBright
12-24-08, 09:54 PM
set it all up a little early..so far so good :]
luckily I have a nice 40 pound sub
And the weight of a sub now determines how good it is?:confused: I know my 70 pounder isn't near as good as some 40 pounders from SVS.
set it all up a little early..so far so good :]
ill have the house to myself tonight, I'll spend a little alone time with them :] the only thing I can say so far is that I'd agree with most people who say they feel a bit underpowered without a sub, they just lack the 'oomph' by themselves. luckily I have a nice 40 pound sub
I think for a slim tower with only two 6.5" driver the bass is more than adequate. Of course a sub is the preferred way to go but I I think for a lot of music the towers set to large will work..
GLBright
12-24-08, 10:02 PM
I think for a slim tower with only two 6.5" driver the bass is more than adequate. Of course a sub is the preferred way to go but I I think for a lot of music the towers set to large will work..
I agree. Solo guitar and string quartets won't need the the extra bass that a sub would provide. But any music with electric bass or full orchestra...
ChiCarpenter84
12-25-08, 12:45 AM
Frys has the P362s on sale again for $120 if anyone needed them I no they have them full price the last week or 2.
riker1384
12-29-08, 01:39 AM
I've got a couple questions. First, why is it that Fry's is always putting these on sale for so cheap? Are they actually making a profit, or is it supposed to be a loss-leader or something?
Second, has anyone compared these to the PSB Image series? The Image B25's are the best speakers I've owned, so I was wondering what to expect from the P362, especially in the treble which was a strong point with the PSB.
Not as good as $99 but the P362 is back for $119 at Frys online
http://shop3.frys.com/product/5223687?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
I just read through the last few pages and so far its looking good, cant wait till they arrive :) Going to set them up with an Onkyo A-9555 integrated. Blind buy but just couldnt resist at that price. I did have a pair of Infinity Reference 2000.5 for 5 years or so that I enjoyed. Very smooth and musical speaker, hopefully the P362s will have the same characteristics and not disappoint.
Great info and pics btw, thx to all that posted. Any more input on the P362 would be appreciated.
juventuscadillac
12-30-08, 06:03 PM
Are the P362's good for music? like for a 2 channel setup.
markwriter
12-30-08, 06:16 PM
Are the P362's good for music? like for a 2 channel setup.
They are very good for music. Harman, the company that makes Infinity, designs speakers to be a accurate as possible at a given price point. I own a pair of 360's (that I used in 2-channel for a long time), and I had to get some Revel F32's in order to find a speaker that was head and shoulders above the P360 (same as 362). They're exception speakers that perform way above their price point.
Here's a link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15309398#post15309398) to another post I wrote on the subject. And another (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15044175#post15044175).
CubicleDrone
12-31-08, 10:41 AM
Man, I want to be all over these but I don't know if the closest Fry's will have these in while the sale is on. I've got to check. Otherwise, it's just a matter of scratching together the cash and convincing the better half.
Hmm... that fry's deal is tempting.
Do you think it's excessive to use p362's for rear speakers?
I JUST set up my Xmas present from everyone:
Onkyo sr606
2 P362's
PC350
Bic vk12 (present to myself)
I can't get over how crisp everything is. I've been using a Sony HTIB for the last couple of years.
Not that I need two more speakers, but for that price...
blued888
12-31-08, 12:00 PM
Do you think it's excessive to use p362's for rear speakers?
No, but as I have noted in another thread... Some of the sound might sound muffled because of the furniture blocking the lower part of the speakers. You can of course do a DIY floorstander stand for your rears.
vwaddict53
12-31-08, 12:02 PM
I just picked up a pair of 362's from frys and I need to decide on some surrounds. I had planned on the 162 but now I questioning if the 152 will work just as well? Room size is 22x13, surrounds will be placed on the long ends of the room. Whats everyone think 152 or 162?
Are the 362's better than the Polk speaker that are often on sale at fry's for 59.99?
Twice as much cash, not sure if twice the speaker. I have Beta's and love them so was looking at Primus for my parents setup.
markwriter
12-31-08, 12:04 PM
I just picked up a pair of 362's from frys and I need to decide on some surrounds. I had planned on the 162 but now I questioning if the 152 will work just as well? Room size is 22x13, surrounds will be placed on the long ends of the room. Whats everyone think 152 or 162?
I've got 140's, 150's, 160's, 360's and I think the 150's would be great for surrounds.
riker1384
12-31-08, 12:18 PM
I got mine and the shipping was very fast.
Here's an issue I saw mentioned somewhere, don't know of it was here: I paid about $90 for shipping on two P362s. It turns out shipping on one is just $18! That means I could have saved fifty bucks by splitting them into two orders. I wonder if I should call and complain about that.
I got mine and the shipping was very fast.
Here's an issue I saw mentioned somewhere, don't know of it was here: I paid about $90 for shipping on two P362s. It turns out shipping on one is just $18! That means I could have saved fifty bucks by splitting them into two orders. I wonder if I should call and complain about that.
It is always like that from Fry's. I ordered some Polk R50's for my brother and had to order them as to orders. I think they base the cost of shipping on the total weight and 2 speakers go over the limit on weight. Regardless of how you order them they come in 2 boxes though.
rensselaer80
12-31-08, 12:55 PM
I just picked up a pair of 362's from frys and I need to decide on some surrounds. I had planned on the 162 but now I questioning if the 152 will work just as well? Room size is 22x13, surrounds will be placed on the long ends of the room. Whats everyone think 152 or 162?
152s will work great as surrounds, I started this way, but was tempted by one of the Fry's deals to pickup 2 more 362s. The 152s are now the rear surrounds.
rensselaer80
12-31-08, 01:15 PM
I got mine and the shipping was very fast.
Here's an issue I saw mentioned somewhere, don't know of it was here: I paid about $90 for shipping on two P362s. It turns out shipping on one is just $18! That means I could have saved fifty bucks by splitting them into two orders. I wonder if I should call and complain about that.
Try putting 4 of them in your cart and look at the shipping (especially the expedited), I think it would give some people a heart attack :D
Luckily I have a Fry's closeby so I could use the in-store pickup option, that's definitely the way to go - although I do have to pay the sales tax.
I question how sympathetic they will be to your plight since they showed you all the pricing, doesn't mean it's right, but you accepted it.
http://shop3.frys.com/template/help/index/FE30/Service3/Assistance/Middle_Topics/A2DomesticShipping
1-877-688-7678 is their number.
BuckFitz
01-01-09, 06:27 PM
Hmm... that fry's deal is tempting.
Do you think it's excessive to use p362's for rear speakers?
...
Not that I need two more speakers, but for that price...
I could not resist...
I got 5 for the front, center, and surrounds.
I've got a fairly sizable room and large open wall that I am re-engineering into a HT wall.
I haven't got a sub yet, but was thinkig of the ed a2-300 since it has a nice low end reach.
Matching with an Onkyo 606, due in next week.
The Fry's store nearest me had the $299 in store price, but $119 online for in store pick up...I had to make two trips. All five are chilling in the garage, waiting for the receiver. The wife has been surprisingly positive about this whole five floorstander project. For now...
I could not resist...
I got 5 for the front, center, and surrounds.
I've got a fairly sizable room and large open wall that I am re-engineering into a HT wall.
I haven't got a sub yet, but was thinkig of the ed a2-300 since it has a nice low end reach.
Matching with an Onkyo 606, due in next week.
The Fry's store nearest me had the $299 in store price, but $119 online for in store pick up...I had to make two trips. All five are chilling in the garage, waiting for the receiver. The wife has been surprisingly positive about this whole five floorstander project. For now...
We were going to do this as well (all 5 speakers being p362's, but we thought that having the 'center' offset (since you can't exactly put it in front/under our TV) wouldn't be a good idea, so instead we went w/ 4- P362's and the PC350 for the center and are loving it.
BuckFitz
01-02-09, 11:35 PM
Excellent!
Has anyone tried wall mounting a P362?
I'd be interested in knowing about what you came up with if you did.
okfireman
01-05-09, 11:43 AM
Will the pc250 do ok with two p362's or do I really need to get the pc350 to match?
Excellent!
Has anyone tried wall mounting a P362?
I'd be interested in knowing about what you came up with if you did.
Wall mounting a 50lb floorstanding tower speaker? Why?
blued888
01-05-09, 02:21 PM
Will the pc250 do ok with two p362's or do I really need to get the pc350 to match?
I use the PC350 along with two P362s, that way the front sound stage is composed of all 3-way speakers.
okfireman
01-05-09, 02:23 PM
I use the PC350 along with two P362s, that way the front sound stage is composed of all 3-way speakers.
Will it make a huge diffrence if I use the pc250 instead of the pc350? I only ask because the price diffrence is huge.
blued888
01-05-09, 02:42 PM
Will it make a huge diffrence if I use the pc250 instead of the pc350? I only ask because the price diffrence is huge.
Your best bet would be to hear them out both. I like the additional dual 3" midrange cones on the PC350, that's why I also went for it. Didn't get the chance to audition the PC250. When I heard the PC350 along with the P362s, I was immediately sold on it! :D
Btw, yes it is more expensive than when Fry's does a sale on the P362, I think I got my PC350 for around close to $200.
okfireman
01-05-09, 02:45 PM
Your best bet would be to hear them out both. I like the additional dual 3" midrange cones on the PC350, that's why I also went for it. Didn't get the chance to audition the PC250. When I heard the PC350 along with the P362s, I was immediately sold on it! :D
Btw, yes it is more expensive than when Fry's does a sale on the P362, I think I got my PC350 for around close to $200.
Unfortunatly I cant audition these speakers because I live in crappy oklahoma.
J_early
01-05-09, 02:51 PM
I have the same setup with the 362's and pc 350 and I am happy with it. The PC 350 is huge so make sure you have a center that can fit it.
okfireman
01-05-09, 02:56 PM
I have the same setup with the 362's and pc 350 and I am happy with it. The PC 350 is huge so make sure you have a center that can fit it.
I know it will sound good just didnt know if I could get by with the pc250.
blued888
01-05-09, 03:03 PM
I know it will sound good just didnt know if I could get by with the pc250.
Just get the PC350 and stop thinking about whether the PC250 would be enough.
If you're patient, you can get a refurbished one off Harman's eBay store. What's the price difference between the PC250 and PC350?
okfireman
01-05-09, 03:16 PM
Just get the PC350 and stop thinking about whether the PC250 would be enough.
If you're patient, you can get a refurbished one off Harman's eBay store. What's the price difference between the PC250 and PC350?
On the harman store on ebay the pc250 goes from 60 to 80 and for the pc350 it is anywhere from 150 to 180. Thats a pretty big jump to me.
BuckFitz
01-05-09, 07:19 PM
Wall mounting a 50lb floorstanding tower speaker? Why?
They are acting as the 4 & 5 of a 5.1, behind the sofa. It ought to be a little higher, hence the question.
rensselaer80
01-06-09, 09:40 AM
They are acting as the 4 & 5 of a 5.1, behind the sofa. It ought to be a little higher, hence the question.
Wouldn't 2 small tables work? The speakers are already 1/2 way up the tower, so not much more elevation is required to clear the couch. That has to be easier than trying to invent a wall bracket of some sort. If it's elevated too high, the more directional mid & high frequency sounds may literally go over your head.
The purists will tell you that 4 & 5 should be to the side, not behind. 6 & 7 go behind you. Would that change the need for elevation?
allargon
01-06-09, 09:53 AM
On the harman store on ebay the pc250 goes from 60 to 80 and for the pc350 it is anywhere from 150 to 180. Thats a pretty big jump to me.
It's a big jump. However, I'm sure it's worth it. I bought my PC250 while half asleep bidding on E-bay. I thought I got a deal on a 350, then realized I bought a 250. Egad. If you're that sold on a 250, I'll sell you mine. Then, I can go back to bidding on a 350.
okfireman
01-06-09, 10:18 AM
It's a big jump. However, I'm sure it's worth it. I bought my PC250 while half asleep bidding on E-bay. I thought I got a deal on a 350, then realized I bought a 250. Egad. If you're that sold on a 250, I'll sell you mine. Then, I can go back to bidding on a 350.
If its worth it then I will spend the extra $100 or so because I wont a good front stage but just didnt want to blow the money if I didnt need it. Thanks for the help.
If you want the best match for your p362 towers, then get the c350 center. If saving money is more important than get the c250.
Its worth it to get the c350.
BuckFitz
01-06-09, 11:35 AM
Wouldn't 2 small tables work? The speakers are already 1/2 way up the tower, so not much more elevation is required to clear the couch. That has to be easier than trying to invent a wall bracket of some sort. If it's elevated too high, the more directional mid & high frequency sounds may literally go over your head.
The purists will tell you that 4 & 5 should be to the side, not behind. 6 & 7 go behind you. Would that change the need for elevation?
I will probably do tables, but was just curious if anyone had tried a wall mount of some sort.
yellowcarman
01-06-09, 12:06 PM
anyone have any suggestions for mounting the pc350 over my 55 inch rear projection? my whole setup is in a corner, at about a 45 degree angle, so i cant mount anything directly over the TV (since there's no wall there). i found this: http://www.amazon.com/OmniMount-CCH1B-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00067AIEU
anyone have any experience with this unit?
anyone have any suggestions for mounting the pc350 over my 55 inch rear projection? my whole setup is in a corner, at about a 45 degree angle, so i cant mount anything directly over the TV (since there's no wall there). i found this: http://www.amazon.com/OmniMount-CCH1B-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00067AIEU
anyone have any experience with this unit?
I have one of those on our SXRD TV and it works great. Been there for 16 months now. But my center is much smaller than a C350. I think my center weighs less than 15lbs.
The C350 is 25lbs.
yellowcarman
01-06-09, 12:17 PM
yeah, the specs say it can handle up to 30 pounds, so im hoping its not an issue. There's just not enough room in my TV stand to fit the 350, my receiver, dvr, and ps3. i tried looking for something sony-specific that might work for my tv but cant find anything. i know the pc250 would prolly fit better, but it sounds like the 350 is a pretty big step up in terms of sound quality.
told my gf last night we needed to move in order to have a better living room to set up my new speakers, lol.
The c350 is wider than that stand too, plus being heavy. You might be better off with a c250 in your situation.
yellowcarman
01-06-09, 01:58 PM
i read on here somewhere that someone was using that mount with a pc350... cant find the thread at the moment. i'm going to go buy the mount and set it up on the TV before i decide which center to get. see how it fits, and do a few tests with some books or something to see if it looks like it can hold 25 pounds.
this seems to be the only mount for this