You mean my option is right as shown in the drawing.Thanks.

Yeah, pretty much. You're definitely on the right track. I didn't saw the red boxes on the drawing a while ago. Only the cyan ones were shown. :)

Ever since I upgraded to my Primus/PSB speaker system my receiver will occasionally shut itself off. I'm assuming this is because my receiver is underpowered, I did see an article on here saying the P360[2] towers need a lot of 'juice' at higher volumes, and my PSB surrounds are 6ohms. My receiver - http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-SR576&class=Receiver&p=i

Am I going to need a new receiver to power my speakers now? I was looking at the Yamaha V663 as a replacement. all the money I wasted, it hurts :(

and for surrounds, is it necessary to go with the 162's to match my 362/350 front? or will the 152's suffice?

Ever since I upgraded to my Primus/PSB speaker system my receiver will occasionally shut itself off. I'm assuming this is because my receiver is underpowered, I did see an article on here saying the P360[2] towers need a lot of 'juice' at higher volumes, and my PSB surrounds are 6ohms. My receiver - http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-SR576&class=Receiver&p=i

Am I going to need a new receiver to power my speakers now? I was looking at the Yamaha V663 as a replacement. all the money I wasted, it hurts :(

and for surrounds, is it necessary to go with the 162's to match my 362/350 front? or will the 152's suffice?

The P152's will do fine, I have a P162 for my surrounds and I think it's pretty much being wasted.

I use a 663 with my PC350/P362/P162 speaker set. Goes loud enough for me. I got a small room though.

Ever since I upgraded to my Primus/PSB speaker system my receiver will occasionally shut itself off. I'm assuming this is because my receiver is underpowered, I did see an article on here saying the P360[2] towers need a lot of 'juice' at higher volumes, and my PSB surrounds are 6ohms. My receiver - http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-SR576&class=Receiver&p=i


Can you tell us more? Is the receiver well ventilated? Do you listen at extremely high volumes? Have you double-checked the connections? I have 360's, and was able to turn them up quite loud with no problems. Infinity wouldn't make an entry-level speaker that would require expensive amplification, so I'd try a lot of other things before I'd get rid of the onkyo.

Well ventilated in an open-back TV stand. I don't know what you'd consider "extremely" high volumes, but usually around 35-45 on the master volume, 80 is max. Once in a while I bump it into the 50's when I got the house to myself. It happened when I first got my 362's also, was a loose connection. But it still happens once in a while even after tightening it. 16gauge speaker wire if that matters, I was thinking thick speaker wire could loosen the binding posts over time.

Well ventilated in an open-back TV stand. I don't know what you'd consider "extremely" high volumes, but usually around 35-45 on the master volume, 80 is max. Once in a while I bump it into the 50's when I got the house to myself. It happened when I first got my 362's also, was a loose connection. But it still happens once in a while even after tightening it. 16gauge speaker wire if that matters, I was thinking thick speaker wire could loosen the binding posts over time.

I wanted to ask if you were using thin wire as that could cause a receiver to overload. 16 gauge should be plenty unless you are like two hundred feet away or something. Have you considered using plugs to ensure a good connection?

Yea, I'm probably going to pick up some spade plugs. My front right connection was a little loose because I did move it, only about an inch though. Everything's ok right now.

anyone know how long audiovideosource usually takes to ship? I ordered monday and it says 1 day UPS. I'd love it by the weekend

:] I have the house to myself so I was blasting my music, I hear my dogs barking and it was the UPS truck, I didn't hear the door bell since the music was so loud. But my speaker came, gonna set it up :]]]

need some good demo material, any suggestions

Hi, I have a pair of P152's for rear surrounds and was wondering if someone can recommend speaker stands that would be stable sitting on thick carpet. I would prefer not to have to mount them to the wall. I'm in the Toronto Canada area and can't find many stands that are made specifically for the P152's. Much appreciated.

Hi, I have a pair of P152's for rear surrounds and was wondering if someone can recommend speaker stands that would be stable sitting on thick carpet. I would prefer not to have to mount them to the wall. I'm in the Toronto Canada area and can't find many stands that are made specifically for the P152's. Much appreciated.

I used some plant stands for mine, much cheaper, stable and the right height.

Hi, I have a pair of P152's for rear surrounds and was wondering if someone can recommend speaker stands that would be stable sitting on thick carpet. I would prefer not to have to mount them to the wall. I'm in the Toronto Canada area and can't find many stands that are made specifically for the P152's. Much appreciated.

I woudn't think you need stands made specifically for the P152. They're standard bookshelf speakers. The bottom on the speakers is flat. Many stands with 5" -7" top plates would work fine with them.

Thanks for the replies. I was just wondering if there were specific stands that would attach to the back of the speaker where the mounting brackets for the wall mount are. I was thinking less chance of tipping in a room where there could be traffic.

Is 100 dollars for a used (great condition) pc350 a good deal. He says his price firm

yes. I just bought one[new] from audiovideosource for $152 + shipping.

Just picked it up for 80. Its looks brand new. He said its only a few months old. Man, as a center it drives a lot of bass. Any of you who have the pc350 with 362s what do you set them up as? Large or small.

Small, but I'm using a sub. If I wasn't I'd set them to large.

Trying to decide if an Infinity Primus setup would be good for my room or not. Take a look at this post I made with pics and dimensions of my room and see what you think: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15696992&postcount=11

Thanks!

Well if you're only going for fronts the $1,000 budget gives you a lot of options. The 362 towers can be bought for about 180 bucks a speaker, even less if you wait for a Fry's sale. I would buy Axiom or Paradigm towers with that budget. If you're looking for the full set than I can easily recommend the Primus set. Even still, you'd still be under a grand because you already bought the sub

Trying to decide if an Infinity Primus setup would be good for my room or not. Take a look at this post I made with pics and dimensions of my room and see what you think: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15696992&postcount=11

Thanks!

I got my PC350/P362/P162 5.1 set for $820 shipped. Pretty good if you'd ask me. You can get even better prices when Fry's does a sale on the P362.

How often does Fry's do a sale on the P362? And where do you suggest getting the center and rears?

How often does Fry's do a sale on the P362? And where do you suggest getting the center and rears?

Usually pretty often although I havnt seen them on sale for awhile now.

How often does Fry's do a sale on the P362? And where do you suggest getting the center and rears?

They did it twice during December, priced at $120 and $130 respectively. It goes as low as $100 (I think that was sometime September and October).

You can get the center and rears from TheAudioVideoSource.com (Give them a call). Or Vanns.com.

For the rears you can just use the P152 in lieu of the P162, I actually find the P162 to be overkill for surround duty.

every couple of weeks they drop them to $119.99, that's where I got mine, super fast delivery too, only 2 days I think it was.

I bought my pc350 and will buy my surrounds from here - http://www.theaudiovideosource.com/InfinityPrimus.html

How often does Fry's do a sale on the P362? And where do you suggest getting the center and rears?

They're on sale right now. 2 for 258.

Where do you see that? I added two to my cart and it came up to $600.

Where do you see that? I added two to my cart and it came up to $600.

Its in the local ad here in Los Angeles. I don't want to upload it, but here's the ad for Freemont CA.

http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=32664

Maybe you can call them and they will match the price.

Fry's in Austin Texas has 362B on sale for $129/each.
I heard the speakers at the store. They were driven by a DENON receiver and the source is a blueray player. They sound loud without restraint, very good midrange, a little bit light on the low notes and bass. They sound way better than the 2 JBL pairs (one is $299/each and one is $5xx/each). However, I didn't feel the image of the singer. I could't locate the singer between the speakers. I think may be it is because of the source (blueray DVD).
BTW, does anyone knows what class des Stereophile rank for the Infinity Primus 360, 150 and 162. Is the 360 class D? Are 150/162 class E?

I was looking at this set-up as an upgrade to my current 7.1 onkyo speakers:

Infinity PS210 or 212 (sub)
Infinity PS152 or 162 (surround left/right, rear left/right)
Infinity P362 (front left and right)
Infinity PC350 (center)

I just had a few questions though. I watch mostly movies and game, not much music so I didn't know if I should still get the 362's (because all the reviews I saw people were just talking about music). I've never had tall floor speakers so input would be appreciated (even if it's a dumb question). My second concern was whether to get the 212 or 210 sub. The room is probably 19x15, and it is fairly open on one side (as it leads to the kitchen/dining area). I didn't know if the 212 would be overkill because we probably sit like 10 ft from the tv (61' samsung). Any opinions would be appreciated, if only your opinion of the speakers themselves.

What do you guys think of this combination: P252's for front right and left, PC350 and a PS212 sub. I'm not going to do any surrounds, the room isn't laid out well for them. BTW, the room is approximately 15X30. Tile floors, 10' ceilings. Mostly glass walls. We sit 10-12' from our 60" Pio plasma.

I would go with the PC250 for the center. The 252 towers don't have any mid-range woofers, the PC350 does. The mids will sound different on the center than the fronts. I just had this problem myself by reversed, had the 250 as my center with 362 towers. or you could go with the 362 towers to match the PC350. basically, you'll want to match the front 3.

Can someone give me some type of direction..I have none! I have a Onkyo SR606 with two Infinity Reference Six's, two Reference 2001's and two P142's. My plans are to purchase the PC350 center speaker and the PS212 400 watt sub. All these speakers are Infinity's. My question is this too much bass for that receiver? Do I need a sub with those huge 10 inch drivers on my Reference Six's? Is the 400 watt overkill for the SR606? Should I settle for the PS210 with 300 watts? Can I scale down to the PC250 center, or should I? Do need to get a bigger receiver for this set-up? I just know nothing about this and need a lot of direction if one's willing..Your help is appreciated.

Two questions:
1. What does everyone think of using five P162's and a sub for an inexpensive but decent and balanced sounding 5.1?
2. I probably will be getting the Onkyo 606 or 706 receiver. Will I be able to take advantage of the sub with 2-channel classical music from my CD player, or will my sound be limited to coming from just the two front speakers without the bass extension provided by the sub?
Thanks in advance...
Blair

Two questions:
1. What does everyone think of using five P162's and a sub for an inexpensive but decent and balanced sounding 5.1?
2. I probably will be getting the Onkyo 606 or 706 receiver. Will I be able to take advantage of the sub with 2-channel classical music from my CD player, or will my sound be limited to coming from just the two front speakers without the bass extension provided by the sub?
Thanks in advance...
Blair

Yeah, you can use the sub in 2 channel mode. It also might be of interest to you that Kevin Voecks (Revel) and Floyd Toole (Infinity) often use Logic 7 surround when playing 2 channel discs. They say that once you set up a good surround system it's hard to go back. Good choice and good luck.

Will I notice much difference between the P152 and the P162 as surround and rear speakers? If so, is the difference worth $30-40?

From all the things I've read, no. What are you using as fronts? I'll be picking up the 152's for my 362/PC350 fronts.

From all the things I've read, no. What are you using as fronts? I'll be picking up the 152's for my 362/PC350 fronts.

No fronts yet, but was planning on the 362s and a PC350.

Picked up 2x P362, a PC350, and 2x P152 today to replace my aging (8 years old) Acoustic Research HC6 HTiB speaker set. So far I like them! Still need to get the P152's mounted permanently somewhere, havent decided yet if I want them on the wall or on stands. Also waiting on my new PA-120 sub from eBay. Just wanted to say I joined the party!

From all the things I've read, no. What are you using as fronts? I'll be picking up the 152's for my 362/PC350 fronts.

Well I got a 152 for like $45 bucks. I may end up mixing 2 162's and 2 152's or something like that depending on the prices I can get.

where so cheap?

where so cheap?

I should say it was a re-manufactured unit or whatever straight from harman (their ebay store).

I was looking at this set-up as an upgrade to my current 7.1 onkyo speakers:

Infinity PS210 or 212 (sub)
Infinity PS152 or 162 (surround left/right, rear left/right)
Infinity P362 (front left and right)
Infinity PC350 (center)

I just had a few questions though. I watch mostly movies and game, not much music so I didn't know if I should still get the 362's (because all the reviews I saw people were just talking about music). I've never had tall floor speakers so input would be appreciated (even if it's a dumb question). My second concern was whether to get the 212 or 210 sub. The room is probably 19x15, and it is fairly open on one side (as it leads to the kitchen/dining area). I didn't know if the 212 would be overkill because we probably sit like 10 ft from the tv (61' samsung). Any opinions would be appreciated, if only your opinion of the speakers themselves.

That's pretty much my setup, except another pair of 362s for the surrounds, and 152s for the rear surrounds (you don't need 162s for the surrounds or rear, it would be overkill). The 362s are relatively skinny, so they don't take much floorspace I found. If you put a bookshelf on a stand, you take the same space. The drivers in the 362 are at the proper height for when you are seated. You don't 'need' to get the 210/212, you don't have to 'match' the sub as you should with the other speakers. I did get the 212 myself since it came as package deal from Vanns and it's matched visually (same grillwork), if that's important to you. I know it does not hit the lowest lows, but it's a decent sub. Go over though and look thru the sub forum some, you'll get a good idea of what's available for the same price range. The 350 center is enormous, make sure you have space for it.

I have no complaints with the setup, I watch plenty of movies, it's a great setup for that. And for the price you can get it, especially when the sales come around, it's difficult to beat.

Have those that bought refurb from Harmans Ebay store been happy going that route?

Have those that bought refurb from Harmans Ebay store been happy going that route?

Yes, it's nice because you get a warranty. Most of the things I've gotten from them have been pristine.

Can speaker wire change the sound of a speaker? each of my surrounds sound a little different than the other, I put them right next to each other on the same surface and still different. I'm using monoprice speaker wire for one and rocketfish brand for the other, both 16gauge. it's not the speakers either, my boston acoustics did it and so do my PSBs. I plan on getting 152's for surrounds so thats why im asking in here.

Have those that bought refurb from Harmans Ebay store been happy going that route?

Very happy. Got a pair of 142s for my daughter's Ipod recently for very cheap from Harman. They were as new. And although I own several other much more expensive (and much larger) Infinity speakers I was just floored by their great sound.

Can speaker wire change the sound of a speaker? each of my surrounds sound a little different than the other, I put them right next to each other on the same surface and still different. I'm using monoprice speaker wire for one and rocketfish brand for the other, both 16gauge. it's not the speakers either, my boston acoustics did it and so do my PSBs. I plan on getting 152's for surrounds so thats why im asking in here.

Have you tried using the same wire for both speakers?

That's pretty much my setup, except another pair of 362s for the surrounds, and 152s for the rear surrounds (you don't need 162s for the surrounds or rear, it would be overkill). The 362s are relatively skinny, so they don't take much floorspace I found. If you put a bookshelf on a stand, you take the same space. The drivers in the 362 are at the proper height for when you are seated. You don't 'need' to get the 210/212, you don't have to 'match' the sub as you should with the other speakers. I did get the 212 myself since it came as package deal from Vanns and it's matched visually (same grillwork), if that's important to you. I know it does not hit the lowest lows, but it's a decent sub. Go over though and look thru the sub forum some, you'll get a good idea of what's available for the same price range. The 350 center is enormous, make sure you have space for it.

I have no complaints with the setup, I watch plenty of movies, it's a great setup for that. And for the price you can get it, especially when the sales come around, it's difficult to beat.

Thanks!

I managed to pick up 2 of the last three 362s from the closest Fry's (one hour, lol), so I spent almost half what I was planning to on them since they were on sale.

They are much smaller than I thought, but they looked and sounded good.

The center I know is huge, I should have room for it somewhere above the tv, since the tv is 61" and in a corner (so not flush against a wall).

I guess I was looking at the 210/212 since they matched, and I thought I might get a good deal on them from harmon's ebay store. I don't need the best sub, but one that is good bang for the buck and around $300-350 would be nice.

Have you tried using the same wire for both speakers?

i have none left. didnt want to order more for no reason.

I guess I was looking at the 210/212 since they matched, and I thought I might get a good deal on them from harmon's ebay store. I don't need the best sub, but one that is good bang for the buck and around $300-350 would be nice.

You should ask this in the sub or DIY forum. Honestly, I will tell you to DIY with that budget. You can get a nice driver and a good amp with that budget. You may need to spend about $50-100 more (wood and insulation) to finish it.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45528

These speakers definitely respond to break-in. After using them off and on for a day, they sound way better. They definitely don't have enough low end (even the P362) for home theater use alone, I am really looking forward to receiving my PA-120 sub to fill out the low end.

they sound infinitely better with a sub.

I've attached pictures of my living room. You can see my old mounting of my satellites in the rear of the room up in the corners. So I have the speaker wire ran already to where I need, but I am thinking about putting the 152's on stands. My biggest question is height. The backs of my couches are 40" high, so should I be placing the 152's _above_ that? What would you guys do?

i have none left.

Sure you do. Lamp cord, aka zip cord. I don't want to embarrass myself here, but I've NEVER used exotic, expensive "speaker" wire in over 40 years of audio bliss. May have paid a dollar a foot once for 12 ga., color-coded wire at Lowe's. The point is to use the same cord for both speakers, even if it's only 3 or 4 feet. Have fun.

Sure you do. Lamp cord, aka zip cord. I don't want to embarrass myself here, but I've NEVER used exotic, expensive "speaker" wire in over 40 years of audio bliss. May have paid a dollar a foot once for 12 ga., color-coded wire at Lowe's.

Were they cryogenically frozen, though? That Lowe's cable needs a little freeze to open up the midbass bloom that audiophiles love.

I recently replaced my Sony HTIB with a Sony STR-DA2400ES A/V receiver and Infinity Speakers.

Here is my current setup:

Fronts - P362's
Center - PC350
Rears - SAT-TSS800's
Sub - Mirage Omni S8

I am incredibly pleased with this setup, especially with the Infinity Primus Fronts and Center. Going from my HTIB speakers that were about 8 years old, there is a night and day difference, I am very pleased with my new setup.

Thanks to everyone who provided insight in this thread, the information provided helped me make the decision to purchase these speakers.

You should ask this in the sub or DIY forum. Honestly, I will tell you to DIY with that budget. You can get a nice driver and a good amp with that budget. You may need to spend about $50-100 more (wood and insulation) to finish it.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45528

I may make one myself later, but I got a great deal on the 212 (about $250) so that will be put on hold. I am getting all my stuff under budget though! :D

I may make one myself later, but I got a great deal on the 212 (about $250) so that will be put on hold. I am getting all my stuff under budget though! :D

Smart move. Infinity knows how to make good subwoofers.

Does anyone have Audyssey crossover settings for P362 fronts, PC350 center, P152 rears, and a PA-120 sub? Right now I have fronts and rears set to xover at 80Hz, sub to get 80Hz and below, and center to xover at 120Hz. Any changes I should make?

The PC350 goes down to 80, any reason why you have it at 120? My receiver doesn't let me individually set the crossover for each speaker so I have mine set at 80. My fronts/surrounds can go lower, but the PC350 is holding me back :[ my only complaint with it so far

Audyssey set it to 120Hz for the center, while it set my rears and mains to Full Range, and I wanted my sub to handle the lows, so I set the rears and mains to 80Hz. Should I go lower for those, and set the center to 80?

can't hurt to try it and see how it sounds.

Audyssey set it to 120Hz for the center, while it set my rears and mains to Full Range, and I wanted my sub to handle the lows, so I set the rears and mains to 80Hz. Should I go lower for those, and set the center to 80?

Experimentation is the key. AFAIK, you can go as low as 50Hz for the P362. I set mine to all 80Hz because the crossover setting is global and not for each speaker (using a Yamaha RX-V663).

I recently replaced my Sony HTIB with a Sony STR-DA2400ES A/V receiver and Infinity Speakers.

Here is my current setup:

Fronts - P362's
Center - PC350
Rears - SAT-TSS800's
Sub - Mirage Omni S8

I am incredibly pleased with this setup, especially with the Infinity Primus Fronts and Center. Going from my HTIB speakers that were about 8 years old, there is a night and day difference, I am very pleased with my new setup.

Thanks to everyone who provided insight in this thread, the information provided helped me make the decision to purchase these speakers.

I have the same setup, except my rears are TSS-1200's. I love the setup too, except I am driving them all with older Onkyo 502. I get a feeling that they will sound even better with a nicer receiver. What kind of receiver do you have? I wonder what others are driving these 362s with. I am still drooling on HK 254 :-)

I have the same setup, except my rears are TSS-1200's. I love the setup too, except I am driving them all with older Onkyo 502. I get a feeling that they will sound even better with a nicer receiver. What kind of receiver do you have? I wonder what others are driving these 362s with. I am still drooling on HK 254 :-)

I use a Yamaha RX-V663 with my PC350/P362/P162.

I have the same setup, except my rears are TSS-1200's. I love the setup too, except I am driving them all with older Onkyo 502. I get a feeling that they will sound even better with a nicer receiver. What kind of receiver do you have? I wonder what others are driving these 362s with. I am still drooling on HK 254 :-)

I am using a Sony STR-DA2400ES

I just purchased a tv stand to go with my new plasma....and it has a front center opening that is 16.5 inches wide and 5 inches high. (there is a drawer below this opening. I just bought a pair of P362s and a subwoofer. I want to buy a center channel but the recommended PC350 center is too big for this opening. I don't want to sacrifice on sound...or matching...but I really would like the tidy look of a center that fits that opening. I would rather not mount anything on the wall. So...any recommendations?

I might also consider the "phantom center" approach...but haven't really read much about the pros and cons of this method.

Can anyone recommend a good center that would fit my space and match up the the P362s? Am I asking a stupid question? :o

Thanks!

I was looking for stands for the p152's. Are there any? I couldn't find any on Amazon.

I was looking for stands for the p152's. Are there any? I couldn't find any on Amazon.

Amazon, Monoprice, Parts Express, Craigs List, Omnimount, E-bay and Audiogon are all sources for speaker stands.

There's nothing special about the P152 speakers that a regular stand wouldn't fit. Either one of these Sanus stands would work fine.

http://www.amazon.com/SANUS-SYSTEMS-BF-24B-Speaker-Stands/dp/B00006JQ5N/ref=pd_cp_e_2?pf_rd_p=413863501&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00006JQ5O&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1F4NKAG3BXBGHXRFBMVC

http://www.amazon.com/SANUS-SYSTEMS-BF-31B-Speaker-Stands/dp/B00006JQ5O/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_1

There's nothing special about the P152 speakers that a regular stand wouldn't fit. Either one of these Sanus stands would work fine.

http://www.amazon.com/SANUS-SYSTEMS-BF-24B-Speaker-Stands/dp/B00006JQ5N/ref=pd_cp_e_2?pf_rd_p=413863501&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00006JQ5O&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1F4NKAG3BXBGHXRFBMVC

http://www.amazon.com/SANUS-SYSTEMS-BF-31B-Speaker-Stands/dp/B00006JQ5O/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_1

Thanks. I've never had speakers like this before, so I didn't know. I thought there might be infinity specific ones, which is what I could not find.

Thanks. I've never had speakers like this before, so I didn't know. I thought there might be infinity specific ones, which is what I could not find.

There's no speaker brand specific speaker stand. :)

There's no speaker brand specific speaker stand. :)

Sure there are.

http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-TSSTAND500-Charcoal-Floorstand-TSS-500/dp/B000MLO7WY/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1234020443&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/FLR-STND-TSS-750-TSS-1100-PLATINUM-TSS-STNDPLT/dp/B0006SFG46/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1234020443&sr=8-4

Those are for specific speakers, right?

I'm rockin' the Primus setup, I don't really have any questions after reading this whole thing, just thought I'd chime in and agree with everybody. Hah.

I've got an AVR-588 powering P252 fronts, a PC350 (yeah, sounds a bit funny, but it's not terrible) and P162s for my surrounds.

I'm running a Cascade Model Twelve subwoofer with them, I got a heck of a good deal on it. Esentially free, after I sold my old subwoofer to a friend. I wanted more clarity than the Velodyne had, and when I heard the Model Twelve, I was in loooooove.

My only problem right now is hunting down black grilled P362s for a good price. I need to pair it up.

I will probably also need to upgrade my receiver to something a bit more powerful, apparently.

Thus far, I hear no clipping or weirdness from my setup. So I'm happy there.

My fronts are, of course, on the ground. I mounted a shelf just under my TV at around head level for my center channel. I've got custom shelves mounted on either side of my couch for my 162s. They're a little higher than I'd like, but that's what you get when your setup is in your living room and not a dedicated room.

Now I just need to convince my girlfriend that carpeting all over everything is the best choice she could ever make for my happiness.

Any suggestions for my next receiver? I'm looking for an all-in-one unit, I don't have the money for additional amplification, and my budget would be between 3-600 dollars.

anyone know of a better deal then this...
2 p525 1 c350 for 490 shipped
on audiovideosource.com

also with the c350 center be too much power fo the p525 or should i go with the smaller one??

anyone know of a better deal then this...
2 p525 1 c350 for 490 shipped
on audiovideosource.com

also with the c350 center be too much power fo the p525 or should i go with the smaller one??

You can get a P362 pair instead of the P252 if you can wait for Fry's to have one of those sales again. The PC350 would be fine as a center channel. It's huge though. Make sure you have enough room for it.

Similar question to the previous poster: Would a C350 center be too much for two P162 fronts? (Eventually I plan to get two P362 fronts, but until then...)
Thanks

Similar question to the previous poster: Would a C350 center be too much for two P162 fronts? (Eventually I plan to get two P362 fronts, but until then...)
Thanks

It would be fine. You will end up level-matching the speakers with each other anyway via Audyssey, MCACC, YPAO or Radio Shack SPL Meter.

I use a Yamaha RX-V663 with my PC350/P362/P162.

Hi blue! How is the Yamaha Rx-v663 sounds with the primus? Because I'm planning to upgrade my current receiver (pio VSx516k). I like the sounds on it at medium level (55) on auto surround but when i crank it up it sounds distorted like it wasn't good to my ears. And also at medium level (55) on stereo seems it has harsh sounds. I know this receiver is low end. I'm eying between rx-v663 and and pio 1018. Anyone using pio 1018 with the primus and how it sounds.

Just wanted to post some tests I tried last week.

I have the 362's connected in stereo config to an Onkyo 8222 and I use the Cambridge Dacmagic as the source. I tried running some frequency test samples to test the bass response and to aid in speaker placement. I noticed that anything below 40-45Hz causes a clicking noise to arise. I think I got the first clean bass note between 48 and 50Hz. Not only are the bass notes lower than 45hz a lot lower in db level, the clicking noise slowly increases as I go lower.

Further investigation showed me that the noise was coming from the front firing port, and it was as though the port wasnt big enough to let the air come out for that frequency. It felt restricted.

But this is semi decent for most music, atleast for non computer generated ones that are based on real instruments. For hip hop, techno, dance, trance etc, sub is a must.
So to pair it with a sub, a crossover at around 60-70hz would be ideal for the 362, also ideally a sub that than can go ateast to 30hz.

Even 80hz seems a tad high, IMO, 60-70 is decent cos the 362 produced the 70's and 80's really well, it wasnt bloated and boomy. It was loud and clean.

The PS-10 sub, I see it's about 200 bucks online. are there any better alternatives in that price range? My current sub goes to 40hz, the PS-10 goes down a bit further to 27hz.

edit, I see the Energy ESW-10 is about the same price, would probably go with that instead.

Hi blue! How is the Yamaha Rx-v663 sounds with the primus? Because I'm planning to upgrade my current receiver (pio VSx516k). I like the sounds on it at medium level (55) on auto surround but when i crank it up it sounds distorted like it wasn't good to my ears. And also at medium level (55) on stereo seems it has harsh sounds. I know this receiver is low end. I'm eying between rx-v663 and and pio 1018. Anyone using pio 1018 with the primus and how it sounds.

The RX-V663 sounds fine with the Primus set that I have, I had a RX-V430 before the 663 and the 663 definitely sounded more neutral and refined than the 430.

Either should be fine, take a look more into the feature set of each receiver to decide which one you really want.

Anyone know why frys hasnt run a online sale on the p362's? I havent seen one since the first of the year.

Fry's had a sale on the 362 for $129 each that ended last Thursday. That was in store, I never check the online deals.

Hi all,

Well after weeks and weeks of reading and contemplating, I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on a 5.0 Primus system. I'm also contemplating the Marantz SR5003 to go with them to complete my HT that started with my new Sammy HL61a750 (way nice if you happen to be looking).

I'm trying to stay between 1K and 1.5K in price and this seems to sit right between with various discounts and coupons.

My intented setup would be:

2 P362's
1 PC350
2 P152's
Marantz SR5003

My room is 20'x18'. However, I rarely crank things all the way up nor am I looking to shake the foundation with the bass (tho I do plan on a sub at some point...rec's welcome)

I'm not looking for some audio nirvana...just a good full sound without too much color that won't eat at me each time I look at the setup because of what I paid. I know refurbs are and option but I have a natural inclination towads new. Didn't like hand me downs as a kid either :p!

Oh yeah, I have limited to no ability to audition without a 3-4 hr drive so I'm looking at these on lots of good reviews/commentary, specs, faith, and a good 30-day return policy. If these are the ones...will have to look at the pure ID folks mostly)

Thanks and thoughts?

Scott

Fry's had a sale on the 362 for $129 each that ended last Thursday. That was in store, I never check the online deals.

That deal is still going on here in Austin.

Fry's had a sale on the 362 for $129 each that ended last Thursday. That was in store, I never check the online deals.

That deal is still going on here in Austin.

Unfortunatly they were only in store and I live in Oklahoma.

I just finished buying all my speakers last night. I am going to end up having this set-up:

PC350 in the center
P362s as left and right (front)
P252s as left and right surround
P152s as rear surrounds
PS212 as the sub

I can't wait to get them all set up. I came out like 1/3 under budget, so I should be able to upgrade my Onkyo 606 sooner than I was expecting.

I would go with the PC250 for the center. The 252 towers don't have any mid-range woofers, the PC350 does. The mids will sound different on the center than the fronts. I just had this problem myself by reversed, had the 250 as my center with 362 towers. or you could go with the 362 towers to match the PC350. basically, you'll want to match the front 3.
I myself am getting the 362`s and have a few questions,the 250 would not be timbre matched with the 362`s??? I have an unused cs1 polk center would that do for my center instead??? is 90 watts of denon enough to run these speakers decently??? Thanks

Where is the best place to buy Infinity Primus speakers? It seems like the Harmon direct seller on Ebay is pretty good.

I am looking for a 350 center to timbre match my 2 Infinity Primus 250's in the front. I also have Klipsch Synergy rears and center and a Velodyne DPS-10 sub, all powered by an Onkyo 605. Is the 350 too much speaker for my 2 250's in the front?

Where is the best place to buy Infinity Primus speakers? It seems like the Harmon direct seller on Ebay is pretty good.

I am looking for a 350 center to timbre match my 2 Infinity Primus 250's in the front. I also have Klipsch Synergy rears and center and a Velodyne DPS-10 sub, all powered by an Onkyo 605. Is the 350 too much speaker for my 2 250's in the front?
I believe the respective speaker matches the center,the pc250 for the 250,and the 3pc50 for the 350,correct me if I am wrong.

I believe the respective speaker matches the center,the pc250 for the 250,and the 3pc50 for the 350,correct me if I am wrong.

I hope so...what I just bought off the Harman eBay site. So far great people to work with...answered questions very quickly. Still waiting 3 weeks later for some questions to a few other ID companies.

Now just for the waiting!

In Austin, Fry's lower the price of 362 from $129/each to $119/each this week. I got a pair of 362 to replace my 15 year old Genesis Gern II (Stereophile class D at that time). I drive the speakers with the Harmon Kardon HK1400. It is intergrated amp with 40W to 8ohm and 60W to 4ohm. It has no bass/treble control and no remote control. It has only power button, input selector, and the volume dial. Since my NAD502 CD player was broken, I temporarily use a $40 Phillips DVDE player. Supringsingly the Phillips sounds much better my SACD Sony 555 (the entry level of Sony SACD player).
When I use a $30 Monster Cable to connect the DVD to my HK1400, the music sounds pretty good, more weight, but I can hear high frenquency roll-off. I am impressed the sound comes from $40 DVD player(for the price). When I switch the cable to the Monoprice, the sound is bright and light. I don't know if the root cause is my DVD player that sounds bright or the cable that makes things sound bright. From the previous listening with NAD and Gern II, I know the Monster Cable sounds very warm (too warm to my taste), but sound good with the new system (sound better than the Monoprice in the new system).
About the 362, I think it is the best bargain out there. It sounds very natural, easy and loud. The midrange sounds wonderful. If most of your music is vocal and instrumental, you would be happy with the sound. The high bass is a little warm. With high effienciency (93dB), it is very easy to drive. Any good, decent intergrated amp can drive these speakers. For buget music lover, it is a big plus, for you don't have to buy extra amp to drive low-effecient speakers. It is a floor standing; you don't need to buy stands. The bass is decent for 2 channel listenning. You don't need a sub for music, but you do for hometheater. The box is cheap. It is made in China. That may be the reason why HK can sell the speakrs with such low price.
Another bargain, as I do my research, is the Energy RC30, for $300/each from audioadvisor. The speaekers look nice and I think they sound good too.
However for $250/pair, you cannot beat the 362. If you are budget music lover, 362 is one of the best deal you can find. I highly recommend it.

In Austin, Fry's lower the price of 362 from $129/each to $119/each this week. I got a pair of 362 to replace my 15 year old Genesis Gern II (Stereophile class D at that time). I drive the speakers with the Harmon Kardon HK1400. It is intergrated amp with 40W to 8ohm and 60W to 4ohm. It has no bass/treble control and no remote control. It has only power button, input selector, and the volume dial. Since my NAD502 CD player was broken, I temporarily use a $40 Phillips DVDE player. Supringsingly the Phillips sounds much better my SACD Sony 555 (the entry level of Sony SACD player).
When I use a $30 Monster Cable to connect the DVD to my HK1400, the music sounds pretty good, more weight, but I can hear high frenquency roll-off. I am impressed the sound comes from $40 DVD player(for the price). When I switch the cable to the Monoprice, the sound is bright and light. I don't know if the root cause is my DVD player that sounds bright or the cable that makes things sound bright. From the previous listening with NAD and Gern II, I know the Monster Cable sounds very warm (too warm to my taste), but sound good with the new system (sound better than the Monoprice in the new system).
About the 362, I think it is the best bargain out there. It sounds very natural, easy and loud. The midrange sounds wonderful. If most of your music is vocal and instrumental, you would be happy with the sound. The high bass is a little warm. With high effienciency (93dB), it is very easy to drive. Any good, decent intergrated amp can drive these speakers. For buget music lover, it is a big plus, for you don't have to buy extra amp to drive low-effecient speakers. It is a floor standing; you don't need to buy stands. The bass is decent for 2 channel listenning. You don't need a sub for music, but you do for hometheater. The box is cheap. It is made in China. That may be the reason why HK can sell the speakrs with such low price.
Another bargain, as I do my research, is the Energy RC30, for $300/each from audioadvisor. The speaekers look nice and I think they sound good too.
However for $250/pair, you cannot beat the 362. If you are budget music lover, 362 is one of the best deal you can find. I highly recommend it.
I WISH I COULD get a pair at that price,frys.com would not match the price which makes no since since they are the same company,correct??? I will be paying $400 for the brand new pair shipped.

I WISH I COULD get a pair at that price,frys.com would not match the price which makes no since since they are the same company,correct??? I will be paying $400 for the brand new pair shipped.

I got mine around $180 shipped from www.theaudiovideosource.com

No regrets getting them at that price.

Sometimes Frys.com gets to have those $120, $130 Infinity Primus P362 sales. I wonder why they haven't done so recently.

I WISH I COULD get a pair at that price,frys.com would not match the price which makes no since since they are the same company,correct??? I will be paying $400 for the brand new pair shipped.

I got mine by using the 'in-store pickup' option buying on line. The Frys.com price was $119, the price at the store was $299.

I bought 5, and I noticed the next week there was a 'LIMIT 2' on the order tab...

I got mine by using the 'in-store pickup' option buying on line. The Frys.com price was $119, the price at the store was $299.

I bought 5, and I noticed the next week there was a 'LIMIT 2' on the order tab...
When was this????

When was this????

They did the sale twice last December.

Maybe a dumb question:

Should my Onkyo 606 have trouble driving 2 362's, 2 252's, 2 152's, and the PC350? I see the onkyo 876 on sale right now which is why I ask. I was planning to upgrade my receiver eventually, but would rather wait until christmas time.

What brand and gauge speaker wire are you guys using for your Primus'?

Maybe a dumb question:

Should my Onkyo 606 have trouble driving 2 362's, 2 252's, 2 152's, and the PC350? I see the onkyo 876 on sale right now which is why I ask. I was planning to upgrade my receiver eventually, but would rather wait until christmas time.

Your Onkyo TX-SR606 should be able to drive them to loud levels easily since they are 8-ohm nominal speakers and are highly sensitive speakers. I use a Yamaha RX-V663 which is the competing model of the Onkyo TX-SR606 and I have no problems whatsoever. :)

What brand and gauge speaker wire are you guys using for your Primus'?

I use 12AWG Monoprice speaker wire with GLS Audio Banana Plugs and Spades. Wish I've gotten the 14AWG though, since the jacket does have a hard time fitting through the hole on the plugs.

Maybe a dumb question:

Should my Onkyo 606 have trouble driving 2 362's, 2 252's, 2 152's, and the PC350? I see the onkyo 876 on sale right now which is why I ask. I was planning to upgrade my receiver eventually, but would rather wait until christmas time.

With ease :D

Basically have the same setup, except 4 x 362s, and the 605 from last year. You'll be happy.

Maybe a dumb question:

Should my Onkyo 606 have trouble driving 2 362's, 2 252's, 2 152's, and the PC350? I see the onkyo 876 on sale right now which is why I ask. I was planning to upgrade my receiver eventually, but would rather wait until christmas time.

no doubt the 606 will work w.out a problem. if you are truly thinking of upgrading though, that 876 is really nice and will give some more oomf for sure with 140W instead of the 606's 90W. the 876 also has great quality burr brown DACs

What brand and gauge speaker wire are you guys using for your Primus'?



I use 12AWG Monoprice speaker wire with GLS Audio Banana Plugs and Spades. Wish I've gotten the 14AWG though, since the jacket does have a hard time fitting through the hole on the plugs.

+1 for the monoprice 12 gauge http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2789&seq=1&format=2
100 feet of this stuff for at least half the price of what you would pay from a big box store and 12 gauge means it'll work at any distance youd have for home use

+1 for the monoprice 12 gauge http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2789&seq=1&format=2
100 feet of this stuff for at least half the price of what you would pay from a big box store and 12 gauge means it'll work at any distance youd have for home use

I use 14g from Monoprice.

I use 14g from Monoprice.

i'm sure that is more than good enough too -- i would stick at 14 and not go to 16 though

14 and 16 are both fine. I ran 24 on mine for 6 months.

Where is the best place to buy a PC350 center channel? The Harmon store on ebay?

Where is the best place to buy a PC350 center channel? The Harmon store on ebay?


That's where I got mine for a considerable discount (refurb) but superb customer service. Haven't had a chance to hook up as it came in this afternoon but looks great...nothing discernable cosmetically.

Scott

i got mine on theaudiovideosource.com

i got mine on theaudiovideosource.com

Ditto. Got my Infinity set from these guys.

Hey everybody. I just purchased my primus set and receiver through my direct buy type company. It won't get here for about two weeks, so I will not be able to see the necessary setup items I will be needing for a while. Can somebody point me in the right direction? I saw the link earlier for the 12 / 14 AWG wire at monoprice. I just didn't know what types of banana plugs I would need (open/closed screw). Also, what are spades, and do I need them? Any other help would be greatly appreciated. This is my first set ever and I want to be able to have everything ready when the set gets here.

P362 x 2
PC350
PS212
P152 x 2
Onkyo SR606

Thanks!

Hey everybody. I just purchased my primus set and receiver through my direct buy type company. It won't get here for about two weeks, so I will not be able to see the necessary setup items I will be needing for a while. Can somebody point me in the right direction? I saw the link earlier for the 12 / 14 AWG wire at monoprice. I just didn't know what types of banana plugs I would need (open/closed screw). Also, what are spades, and do I need them? Any other help would be greatly appreciated. This is my first set ever and I want to be able to have everything ready when the set gets here.

P362 x 2
PC350
PS212
P152 x 2
Onkyo SR606

Thanks!

Just got my stuff in. Seems from documentation and research on the forum, you only need the wire...the plugs and spades are more for convenience sake..maybe some lessened chance of shorting but that seems debated. I doubt i'll be moving mine much so I likely not going plugs or spades. But hell, as with this whole process, that could change change tomrrow!

Scott

This is a spade connector:

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/graphics/infolib/homelib/hSpeakerSpadeConnector.jpg

I personally use those (GLS Audio ones, not Monster Cable) on the back of my speakers but you can either go with spades, banana plugs or even bare wire. The connectors are just mainly used if you move around your equipment a lot. There is no difference in sound whether you use plugs or not, they are used for convenience.

I also personally don't like Monoprice.com banana plugs, because the body is all copper constructed (It would be prone to shorting if you're not careful enough). I use the GLS Audio ones from Speaker Repair (http://www.speakerrepair.com) instead. But if you're going with Monoprice, I would suggest the closed-type banana plugs because they utilize rear entry. They require a little more work than the open-type ones. The open-type ones on the other hand are the banana plugs where it has hole(s) through it's body and you just put the wire through that hole and simply screw the wire down (which IMO would look a bit untidy).

This is a spade connector:

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/graphics/infolib/homelib/hSpeakerSpadeConnector.jpg

I personally use those (GLS Audio ones, not Monster Cable) on the back of my speakers but you can either go with spades, banana plugs or even bare wire. The connectors are just mainly used if you move around your equipment a lot. There is no difference in sound whether you use plugs or not, they are used for convenience.

I also personally don't like Monoprice.com banana plugs, because the body is all copper constructed (It would be prone to shorting if you're not careful enough). I use the GLS Audio ones from Speaker Repair (http://www.speakerrepair.com) instead. But if you're going with Monoprice, I would suggest the closed-type banana plugs because they utilize rear entry. They require a little more work than the open-type ones. The open-type ones on the other hand are the banana plugs where it has hole(s) through it's body and you just put the wire through that hole and simply screw the wire down (which IMO would look a bit untidy).
I used the closed type banana plugs from monoprice with my 606 receiver and have never had a problem. Looking at the manual (haven't had a chance to set up my speakers since I should be moving in a week anyways):
http://manuals.harman.com/INF/HOM/Owner%27s%20Manual/INFP1859PrimusII-om-LowRes.pdf

It doesn't look like I can use banana plugs with the actual wire connection to the speaker.

That's where I got mine for a considerable discount (refurb) but superb customer service. Haven't had a chance to hook up as it came in this afternoon but looks great...nothing discernable cosmetically.

Scott

Please let me know how the refurb looks. I am considering bidding on one from them.

What do the rest of you think about the refurb units direct from Infinity?

Please let me know how the refurb looks. I am considering bidding on one from them.

What do the rest of you think about the refurb units direct from Infinity?

Mine looks brand new all around, from the packaging to the actual speaker unit itself.

I used the closed type banana plugs from monoprice with my 606 receiver and have never had a problem. Looking at the manual (haven't had a chance to set up my speakers since I should be moving in a week anyways):
http://manuals.harman.com/INF/HOM/Owner%27s%20Manual/INFP1859PrimusII-om-LowRes.pdf

It doesn't look like I can use banana plugs with the actual wire connection to the speaker.

I don't exactly mean possibly shorting out while they're inserted into the speaker's binding post because that's virtually impossible.

I mean, I just might forget to remove the connectors at the back of the receiver first and then get to touch the ones at the speaker together once I remove them. :o

I don't exactly mean possibly shorting out while they're inserted into the speaker's binding post because that's virtually impossible.

I mean, I just might forget to remove the connectors at the back of the receiver first and then get to touch the ones at the speaker together once I remove them. :o

Well to clear something up for me please, as I may have been reading wrong, but I was under the impression (based on the manual) that you had to use bare wire into the actual speaker's binding post.

Well to clear something up for me please, as I may have been reading wrong, but I was under the impression (based on the manual) that you had to use bare wire into the actual speaker's binding post.

There's this plastic thing covering (with my speakers, yours might have those too) the rear entry hole where you insert the banana plugs. Flip those out with a mini screwdriver or something and you can insert the banana plugs there. :)

There's this plastic thing covering (with my speakers, yours might have those too) the rear entry hole where you insert the banana plugs. Flip those out with a mini screwdriver or something and you can insert the banana plugs there. :)

Ok sweet. I have the plastic covers too. It didn't look like the could be opened or removed though.

Ok sweet. I have the plastic covers too. It didn't look like the could be opened or removed though.

It seemed like that to me at first also. I used spades with mine so I didn't have to bother removing those plastic covers (but I did try to remove one piece), some are inserted deeper than others.

There's this plastic thing covering (with my speakers, yours might have those too) the rear entry hole where you insert the banana plugs. Flip those out with a mini screwdriver or something and you can insert the banana plugs there. :)

what, are you serious? I never knew that. :eek:

Mine looks brand new all around, from the packaging to the actual speaker unit itself.

Did you bid on yours? If so, how much did you get it for?

I really appreciate the help. Next question: If I plan on running the wire through the walls/ceiling, is there a need for CL2 wire? Monoprice is showing a 3 week backorder on their 14 awg CL2 wire. TIA

Please let me know how the refurb looks. I am considering bidding on one from them.

What do the rest of you think about the refurb units direct from Infinity?

goblue1

I just got and set up my refurb p362's and pc350. Can't see a thing wrong with them...one came in a plain box but the other two came in regular infinity boxes. All were packed well if a bit worn. Got them setup and enjoying...the speakers were the easy part, lol, the Marantz 5003 may require a college class or something.

As of the moment, I would highly recommend the Harman ebay route...same warranty and drastically reduced prices and thus far..superb customer service.

Scott

Did you bid on yours? If so, how much did you get it for?

isn't any pricing discussion out of bounds for the forum..outside of MSRP? Does that hold for auctions?

what, are you serious? I never knew that. :eek:

Haha, see for yourself. :) Those plastic things do look like they're integrated somehow to the binding post and cannot be removed but they actually are removable.

Are you using bare wire with yours? :D

goblue1

I just got and set up my refurb p362's and pc350. Can't see a thing wrong with them...one came in a plain box but the other two came in regular infinity boxes. All were packed well if a bit worn. Got them setup and enjoying...the speakers were the easy part, lol, the Marantz 5003 may require a college class or something.

As of the moment, I would highly recommend the Harman ebay route...same warranty and drastically reduced prices and thus far..superb customer service.

Scott

I just ordered a couple of 162s and a 350 to match the 362s I purchased from Fry's. The ebay experience has been pretty good so far. Harman sent emails for every step of the process, and left instant feedback.

I can't wait to get them set up. They should arrive tomorrow. :)

I really appreciate the help. Next question: If I plan on running the wire through the walls/ceiling, is there a need for CL2 wire? Monoprice is showing a 3 week backorder on their 14 awg CL2 wire. TIA

You would be better off asking this in the theory and layout forum. However, I wouldn't run regular cable behind walls due to codes. Yeah, it gets backordered for two weeks then comes back. I would use the CL2 as regular wire but I wouldn't put regular even oxygen free wire behind drywall.

Does anyone know about how often Frys will run their $119ea sale on 362's?

I just ordered a couple of 162s and a 350 to match the 362s I purchased from Fry's. The ebay experience has been pretty good so far. Harman sent emails for every step of the process, and left instant feedback.

I can't wait to get them set up. They should arrive tomorrow. :)

Have the same set of speakers, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I initially wanted P362's for the surrounds also but figured out I would have a hard time with placement.

Does anyone know about how often Frys will run their $119ea sale on 362's?

They did it two or three times last December 2008. I don't think they have done it this year so far.

I picked up a new PC350 at my local B&M store, Video Only (they're West coast only), a couple of weeks ago for a benjamin and a half. Best price I could find, even online! Might want to find some local retailers and call around. Also picked up 4 P362's during the in-store Fry's sale 4-5 weeks ago. Sounding good! Waiting on a Denon 1909 price drop (if that ever happens) to finish things up.

Does anyone know about how often Frys will run their $119ea sale on 362's?

Once or twice a month they come on sale anywhere from $99-$129. Lately the sale price has been $129.

gee how come nobody mentions they are made in china?

gee how come nobody mentions they are made in china?

It has been noted in the thread several times.

gee how come nobody mentions they are made in china?


Probably because the majority of speakers are made in China nowadays. Designed somewhere else but built in China. Its a cost cutting measure.
I have no problems with my Chinese made Athena and Energy speakers.

Has anyone moved up from P252 to P362's? I am asking because I want to upgrade the P250's I have for my fronts now to P362's. I guess it basically comes down to is the mid-range driver worth the upgrade? Is it a noticeable difference?

Fry's sales starts every Fridays. That is the best time to check their website and store for sales. Infinity Primus use to be on sale often like every 2 weeks but lately, its been a once a month thing. 2ndly, the Infinity sales has been B&M store instead of online.

Has anyone moved up from P252 to P362's? I am asking because I want to upgrade the P250's I have for my fronts now to P362's. I guess it basically comes down to is the mid-range driver worth the upgrade? Is it a noticeable difference?


It's not just the physical presence of the midrange driver that makes the 362 better. It's the individual attention that this speaker got in the design and development process and that the internal Harman gossip on the 360/362 speaker is that it performed way above Harman's own world class expectations in both objective and subjective testing. To be sure, the midrange plays some part in that, but it's not the whole story. The 360/362 is definitely worth getting. I've had every speaker in the primus line except for the 250's, and the 360 does everything better than all of the others.

Just received my PC350 from Harmanaudio ebay to replace my C25 and match the PC362. Great price if your patience.And it greatly improves, more clearer vocals on movie as compared to C25.

It's not just the physical presence of the midrange driver that makes the 362 better. It's the individual attention that this speaker got in the design and development process and that the internal Harman gossip on the 360/362 speaker is that it performed way above Harman's own world class expectations in both objective and subjective testing. To be sure, the midrange plays some part in that, but it's not the whole story. The 360/362 is definitely worth getting. I've had every speaker in the primus line except for the 250's, and the 360 does everything better than all of the others.

I mean totally no offense by asking this but, are you a former or current Harman marketing person? :)

I mean totally no offense by asking this but, are you a former or current Harman marketing person? :)

Neither. Never been employed or affiliated with them in any way. I was able to visit their facility in Northridge and that's why I pass along the info that the 360 is such revered product within the company. Also, plhart, a former Harman engineer who posts on this forum said that the guy who designed the 360 is one of a handful of great speaker designers. I would think any value-conscious audiophile would be very interested in those two facts, given that Harman's R&D is unsurpassed. Hopefully my comments will be of value to goblue1 or anyone else who wants high fidelity but doesn't have tons of money to throw around. The 360's are really special.

Just received my PC350 from Harmanaudio ebay to replace my C25 and match the PC362. Great price if your patience.And it greatly improves, more clearer vocals on movie as compared to C25.

Do you think that is due to the mid range drivers?

btw, I am currently bidding on a PC350 at the Harmon ebay store. Here's hoping I get it.:p I'll worry about where to put that beast later!:p

What is up with the Harmon ebay store? I keep bidding on one of their remanufactued PC350's and the same people keep outbidding me and winning. Is that just the Harmon store making sure they don't dip below a certain price?

What is up with the Harmon ebay store? I keep bidding on one of their remanufactued PC350's and the same people keep outbidding me and winning. Is that just the Harmon store making sure they don't dip below a certain price?

I had the same issue...seems some just go in and put in huge bid ranges. Just for kicks, I did a P362 like that...wen from about 30 to near 100 before I finally broke through. But then another was much easier... guess it just depends on who's bidding that day..but I noticed the PC350 was always harder to get on the ones i was watching. I got mine for a bit more than I should have because I got frustrated who ever the other bidder was, lol. An urge to win is not always the best thing in an auction setting.

Scott

Sorry, Blue, I got the PC350 earlier tonight at $117.50. Had lost out on the earlier auctions tonight so I place a slightly higher offer and went off to dinner with my niece. Came back from dinner and saw I was a "winner."

Next up for me is a sub. Looking at the SV Sound PC12-NSD. Any comments here about it's suitability with the P362s and PC350?

Sorry, Blue, I got the PC350 earlier tonight at $117.50. Had lost out on the earlier auctions tonight so I place a slightly higher offer and went off to dinner with my niece. Came back from dinner and saw I was a "winner."

Next up for me is a sub. Looking at the SV Sound PC12-NSD. Any comments here about it's suitability with the P362s and PC350?

That's a nice sub. Are you looking for something musical or strictly shakey home theater?

Sorry, Blue, I got the PC350 earlier tonight at $117.50. Had lost out on the earlier auctions tonight so I place a slightly higher offer and went off to dinner with my niece. Came back from dinner and saw I was a "winner."

Next up for me is a sub. Looking at the SV Sound PC12-NSD. Any comments here about it's suitability with the P362s and PC350?

I'm pairing my P362's and PC350 gear with a Outlaw LFM-1 EX I just picked up used. Will report back later when I have it all setup. First "real" speakers and first "real" sub. Woo!

Scott

Looking at the SV Sound PC12-NSD. Any comments here about it's suitability with the P362s and PC350?
That's a nice sub. Are you looking for something musical or strictly shakey home theater?
Mostly the latter, shakey home theater. Classical music and some rock n roll. Being the neophyte, I've relied a great deal on what I've read here and essentially make blind (or deaf as it were) purchases. This particular sub would be the most expensive component if purchased. My uneducated preference would be for a neutral sounding sub. 6 bill is the most I could justify spending and used the "craigsub" list as a short list of potential subs.

As far as eBay auctions go, it seems some days fetch higher prices but with so many PC350s up for auction today, prices were a bit easier on the wallet. I glanced at the auction results within the last month or so and was surprised that many winning bids rivaled prices at authorized online dealers for a NEW speaker. That's a head scratcher.

Hi All,

I have an Infinity Entra 7.1 system with the Infinity Entra Center II, a sub, and Entra Point 5 speakers all around. I plan on upgrading the fronts to the 362s. Do you think I should replace the center channel with the 350, or will my Entra Center be a decent match?
Thanks.

Hi All,

I have an Infinity Entra 7.1 system with the Infinity Entra Center II, a sub, and Entra Point 5 speakers all around. I plan on upgrading the fronts to the 362s. Do you think I should replace the center channel with the 350, or will my Entra Center be a decent match?
Thanks.

You can try first, see if something sounds off to you. What driver sizes are in the Entra center? If they do match, I think there's a possibility that the 362's will overpower your Entra center.

Hi All,

I have an Infinity Entra 7.1 system with the Infinity Entra Center II, a sub, and Entra Point 5 speakers all around. I plan on upgrading the fronts to the 362s. Do you think I should replace the center channel with the 350, or will my Entra Center be a decent match?
Thanks.

I think your current center can "work", but I don't know if you will get the same tone as the 362. If you can afford the center upgrade, I think the 350 is the way for you to go.

Sorry, Blue, I got the PC350 earlier tonight at $117.50. Had lost out on the earlier auctions tonight so I place a slightly higher offer and went off to dinner with my niece. Came back from dinner and saw I was a "winner."

Next up for me is a sub. Looking at the SV Sound PC12-NSD. Any comments here about it's suitability with the P362s and PC350?

Ha, you probably out-bid me on that one. I think I maxed out at @ $115. Oh well, I'll try again today.

I gotta say, the 360's are as the kids say "sick". They are the only Infinity speakers I've ever owned and in my middle class audio world they truly stand out. Only thing is they are "crap in crap out speakers", if on your favorite live Hendrix album Jimi has a bad pick up on his Strat, you will know it and throw out all those low bit rate mp3's they aren't gonna do. I love 'em but they are, as funny as it may sound, a speaker with their own personality. I don't think they are great as movie speakers or for extremely loud rock but as stereo speakers they are the best I've heard.

I don't think they are great as movie speakers or for extremely loud rock but as stereo speakers they are the best I've heard.

I love my PC350, P362, P162 combo for movies! :D

for home theater you definitely need a sub to get the most out of them.

Man, I got moved into my new house on friday (first home!!!), and finally set up my home theater last night.

I have to say these speakers rock!

Most notably is how clear everything sounds. I used to listen with subtitles (though I didn't always need them), but now it seems like every single word (even whispers) are super clear.

I was also watching Wall-E and when the ship that drops EVE off on earth landed the PS-212 rocked man (not overbearing, but damn near perfect). My fiance was like "there is a rocket landing in our living room!" :lol:

Do you think that is due to the mid range drivers?

btw, I am currently bidding on a PC350 at the Harmon ebay store. Here's hoping I get it.:p I'll worry about where to put that beast later!:p

I'm not an audiophile but I think the mid range makes the difference over the C25. Here's how I put my PC350 on the top of my DLP.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8443/img0510.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0510.jpg)
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5937/img0511.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0511.jpg)

I'm not an audiophile but I think the mid range makes the difference over the C25. Here's how I put my PC350 on the top of my DLP.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8443/img0510.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0510.jpg)
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5937/img0511.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0511.jpg)

I think we may have the same tv.

I put my speaker underneath. I had measured my stand between the glass and the speaker fit. When I went to put it in, it got stuck. I was like "crap!" I didn't factor in the metal bars that help hold the glass up int the middle. I managed to put it out front a little with the glass moved off the rack, and I still think it looks ok (though not ideal). I'll try and get pictures next weekend of my set-up.

Sorry, Blue, I got the PC350 earlier tonight at $117.50. Had lost out on the earlier auctions tonight so I place a slightly higher offer and went off to dinner with my niece. Came back from dinner and saw I was a "winner."

Next up for me is a sub. Looking at the SV Sound PC12-NSD. Any comments here about it's suitability with the P362s and PC350?
Ha, you probably out-bid me on that one. I think I maxed out at @ $115. Oh well, I'll try again today.
Pc350 won on Friday night arrived today, Tuesday afternoon. Nice and fast from their in state facility. Was worried about getting a factory refurb but I think they're selling new as refurbs. Had to adjust my Z-line Vitoria stand from 2nd highest position to top position in order to accomodate this center speaker.

Got the remanufactured PC350 from the Harmon ebay store today. Looks new to me. I cannot believe how big that thing is!:eek: Won't fit on my TV stand and can't put it in front of the TV because it will block some of the bottom of the picture.:confused: Eventually, I will have to get a new stand, but not sure what to do until then. I guess I will have to block some of the screen.:(

PC350 or P162 as Center
As a center channel with P362 fronts, would the P162 be as good a tonal match as the PC350?
Thanks

PC350 or P162 as Center
As a center channel with P362 fronts, would the P162 be as good a tonal match as the PC350?
Thanks

I would pick the PC350 even though the woofers are just 5.25-inchers.

The P162 might get overpowered by the additional drivers of the P362.

Is there any deals on these 362's anywhere like there was at Fry's?? Im looking into getting some mains but I can't find these for what they used to be so I might be going with the Polk T90e (Monitor 60 but 3-way version and Black!) instead. These 362's get great reviews it seems but I just can't find them down in my price range now. ($260 total)...

Hello,
I couldn't seem to find an overall "official" infinity thread so figured I'd ask here.

Anyone have any knowledge of the floorstanding Infinity Reference 31 mkII speakers? I was doing my standard poking around in pawn shops looking around for blu-rays and came across a pair. Figured I'd go home and look them up, and the only things that seem to be out there on them are in German?

I can tell that they are 8 ohm, 2 way, and fairly sensitive, but past that I have no idea on them. I was hoping someone here might have run across these at some point and has any idea what they might sound like.

Thanks

Is there any deals on these 362's anywhere like there was at Fry's?? Im looking into getting some mains but I can't find these for what they used to be so I might be going with the Polk T90e (Monitor 60 but 3-way version and Black!) instead. These 362's get great reviews it seems but I just can't find them down in my price range now. ($260 total)...

Not sure if Fry's will have a sale on these again but someone here has mentioned that the P362's go on sale at least once a month. They update their ads on Friday so that's the day to look.

The deal is also usually in-store only. They've had some cases where it was on sale online as well.

Is there any deals on these 362's anywhere like there was at Fry's?? Im looking into getting some mains but I can't find these for what they used to be so I might be going with the Polk T90e (Monitor 60 but 3-way version and Black!) instead. These 362's get great reviews it seems but I just can't find them down in my price range now. ($260 total)...

I don't know, but those are great deals when they happen. I got tired of waiting and went in a completely different direction when I set up a home theatre recently.

I like the P162s. And they never seem to go down. Only up. In fact, the week I bought mine, Big River's price went up 10 bucks apiece.

Still, I knew these were what I wanted. My first "good" speakers years ago where 2-ways: those bookshelf EPIs with the 8-inch woofers. I always loved those things. Then I went tower in the '80s with some nice floor-standing 3-way Acoustic Research with the side-firing woofers. Big, stereo sound.

Since then, I've only had Bose Acoustimas and cheap HTIB.

For this new rig, I really wanted to get back to basics. I liked the 362s, but my listening room is situated long ways. I designed an 8-foot A/V stand that was really perfect for bookshelf speakers. About that time Consumer Reports comes out with their speaker reviews: Infinity P-162 the runaway top choice. I had flirted with some little Paradigm Atoms, but those really are small (if beautiful). So, Infinity it was.

The setup: 4 Infinity p-162s all around, PC250 center, PS210 sub. All run through an Onkyo TX-SR606, with Sony Blu-ray and AppleTV through a Samsung LN52A650.

I could not be more happy with this system. I love the simplicity of 2-way systems (hey, one less crossover!) and the balance I get out of this all-Infinity set up is phenomonal. Granted, I'm mostly into home theater, but you can still pop in a CD and get pretty competent two-channel stereo sound out of those guys. If you're more interested in reference-type reproduction than reference-level sound output, you're not going to be disappointed.

Hello,

I’m pretty much locked down on my setup and ordered them. Now, I need some recommendations on Sub and a good receiver that can pump up these bad boys:

2 Infinity Primus P362 Floorstanding Speakers
2 Infinity Primus P162 Bookshelf Speakers (rear)
2 Infinity Primus P162 Bookshelf Speakers (surround)
1 Infinity Primus PC350 Center Channel Speaker

Mine is a 17X23 room that is opened up into kitchen (if that matters).

Other components: Epson 6100, PS3

Need:90% of movies (Action based), 10 % of music (rock & classical)and for games (PS3)

Budget:I have a budget of $800-1200 for both of them.

Please help me with your inputs.

Budget:I have a budget of $800-1200 for both of them.

Please help me with your inputs.

I use a Yamaha RX-V663 with my PC350/P362/P162/eD A2-300 5.1 setup. The Yamaha is around $350. That leaves you $850 for the subwoofer.

I would suggest you ask in the subwoofer section regarding the sub. :)

I use a Yamaha RX-V663 with my PC350/P362/P162/eD A2-300 5.1 setup. The Yamaha is around $350. That leaves you $850 for the subwoofer.

I would suggest you ask in the subwoofer section regarding the sub. :)

I have an Onkyo 606 (the onkyo equivalent of that Yamaha) and it works great and can be had for a similar price.

For $800 you could get a freaking great sub.

either the yamaha or the onkyo 606 would be good choices for your setup.
i recommend this for the sub http://hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-3-mk3.html ,
its amazing. if you go w. these you'll be well within your budget

I just recently received my P362's, P350, this past week and I can say that I am very impressed with the set up. My P152's will arrive tomorrow to serve duty as rear surrounds. I did have a quick question though, Due to the layout of my theater I have to mount my two rear speakers high on the wall close to the ceiling. The two speakers that are serving duty currently are about 5lbs and the mounts for those won't hold the heavier bookshelves. I know the bookshelves have built in keyholes but I will be unable to use those due to the mounting situation close to the ceiling. Does anyone have any advice on speaker mounts to use and where to pick them up from? I've done some preliminary research, but any input would be welcomed.

B-TECH Ultragrip Pro BT77 59 bucks @ the Rainforest

The Primus 362B's are back on sale at Fry's in Austin for $129.99 again.

The Primus 362B's are back on sale at Fry's in Austin for $129.99 again.

Do these match the Infinity Beta C250

Do these match the Infinity Beta C250

Yes, but not as well as they match the Infinity Primus C350. ;)

Do these match the Infinity Beta C250

I'd have to agree with allargon. Get the Primus PC350 instead. :)

The Primus 362B's are back on sale at Fry's in Austin for $129.99 again.

Same here in PHX, AZ. I saw them a couple months ago @ $119ea, do they ever go below that?

Same here in PHX, AZ. I saw them a couple months ago @ $119ea, do they ever go below that?

They went for as low as $99 each sometime last year.

To bad thats an in-store deal. I'm about 5 hours from Austin so i'd cost more in gas than the just pay the normal price! ...Sucks

To bad thats an in-store deal. I'm about 5 hours from Austin so i'd cost more in gas than the just pay the normal price! ...Sucks

El Paso? or OKLA? If you're in OK, the Dallas stores are much closer.

I started my ht set up today with the purchase of two primus p362 towers,they look good sitting in my living room.:D

El Paso? or OKLA? If you're in OK, the Dallas stores are much closer.

Yeh Dallas...thats what I meant sorry. I'm not sure why I put Austin. Im in Norman, OK. And im a college student so I can't really justify the gas money for driving down there. Wish I was loaded......BUT im not! lol

Plusk- Was it my post that made you go look at and eventually buy these?? If so then I feel good....as long as you like them. If you don't then that wasn't me....

Ousooner,
Yes,you and a few other people

Anybody know what dipole surrounds will work with the primus 362's,I am tired of looking

Ousooner,
Yes,you and a few other people

Anybody know what dipole surrounds will work with the primus 362's,I am tired of looking

Did you look on Infinity's web site at the Classia series?

http://www.infinitysystems.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=C255ESBK&cat=BFS&ser=CSS&Language=ENG&Region=USA&Country=US

Are you doing multichannel music? If not, the surrounds don't need to match the fronts.

Allargon,

I listen to 0% music
So you saying I can pick any dipole speakers I want?They don't have to come close to the frequecy range of the fronts?Those c255es speakers look
sweet but surely I can find them cheaper the factory direct price,right.
Please if anybody else can chine in too

Recently hooked up my PC350 center and had some problems last night. I was watching a blu-ray (Step Brothers) and noticed the dialog was very flat/muffled/quiet coming out of the center. When music or louder scenes that involved the 2 mains (P250's) came on, everything sounded fine. The audio was Dolby True HD and was decoded by my PS3 and passed to my Onkyo 605. This is the first time I have noticed this and it was fairly obvious. Anyone have any ideas?

Note: I am crossing the PC350 over @ 80hz and ran Audessey. I increased the decibles Audessey set by 4 already.

Hi all, quick question here. A couple of months ago I bought the PC350 and two P162 speakers for my fronts. I now want to buy some P362's for my fronts and I was wondering if you guys thought buying four P362's for my fronts and surrounds and moving my P162's to the rears for a 7.1 setup would be overkill?

Oh, one last question :)

I am currently using an Infinity 8" BU-1 sub for my setup. Would buying the PS210 be much of an upgrade?

Thanks for any advice.

Allargon,

I listen to 0% music
So you saying I can pick any dipole speakers I want?They don't have to come close to the frequecy range of the fronts?Those c255es speakers look
sweet but surely I can find them cheaper the factory direct price,right.
Please if anybody else can chine in too

You can go to the audio theory and chat section if you want for a second opinion, but for surrounds you can even go Bose for home theater. I wouldn't recommend that route. However, surrounds are definitely the best place to cheap out if necessary.

To bad thats an in-store deal. I'm about 5 hours from Austin so i'd cost more in gas than the just pay the normal price! ...Sucks

Not an in store only deal now. $129ea online too.
http://shop2.frys.com/product/5223687?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Are Infinity Primus speakers/sub good choice for music? Or they mostly suitable for HT (movies)?

Well crap! Just when I thought I had my mind made up about buying the Energy C-300's, C-C100, & C-100's these are bumped down to about the same price as the C-300's. Now I'm wondering whether I should stick w/ Energy or go with the Primus line, though the Primus line might end up costing me more in the long run (the Energy setup will run me $470 shipped).

HELP PLEASE!

Well, by the time you make up your mind, the Infinity won't be on sale anymore.

The 362's have dual 6 1/2" woofers as opposed to the C-300's one. It also has a 4" mid-range driver which the C-300 lacks completely. I like the C series but I would go with the Primus line personally. The matching PC350 is quite big so you might want to measure to see if you fit it in your space. The Infinity's will cost you more, but you get what you pay for

ousooner,

I was in the same boat as you,I went to Frys to listen to the p362's and then I was done shopping:)

Are the C-series that bad or what?? Their getting great reviews...plus I just looked and shipping is $100 for the 362's to my house....kinda dumb. I can get the whole Energy setup for $470 and it seems the primus setup would be quite a bit more than that. Im a college student so this is already enough money for me.

I finally had the opportunity to pull the trigger on the 362s this week (interpretation: got the wife acceptance to spend money!). Unfortunately, when I went to Fry's and saw them, I just couldn't buy them. Of the 8 or so models of fronts they had at Fry's, the 362s were just the least attractive there. What's with that grey plastic? I wouldn't care if it was under the grill, but the plastic extend down the front below the grill. I was really disappointed to walk away after planning this purchase for some time, but I just couldn't bring myself to spend the money given the appearance. I know that won't matter to many folks, and others may find this unique aspect attractive, but it's not for me.

My plan was to improve upon my Infinity Entra 7.1 system which doesn't sound as good as I would like it to. My new plan is to have a home theater installer come out and look at my speaker placement. Once that is improved (and it needs it), I'll consider what is best in terms of speaker upgrades.

I finally had the opportunity to pull the trigger on the 362s this week (interpretation: got the wife acceptance to spend money!). Unfortunately, when I went to Fry's and saw them, I just couldn't buy them. Of the 8 or so models of fronts they had at Fry's, the 362s were just the least attractive there. What's with that grey plastic? I wouldn't care if it was under the grill, but the plastic extend down the front below the grill. I was really disappointed to walk away after planning this purchase for some time, but I just couldn't bring myself to spend the money given the appearance. I know that won't matter to many folks, and others may find this unique aspect attractive, but it's not for me.

My plan was to improve upon my Infinity Entra 7.1 system which doesn't sound as good as I would like it to. My new plan is to have a home theater installer come out and look at my speaker placement. Once that is improved (and it needs it), I'll consider what is best in terms of speaker upgrades.

If you don't like the looks you can paint them. I painted mine because I wasn't thrilled with the looks either. This picture doesn't do it justice, they look better than the picture shows.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s159/swedgen/paint.jpg

Here's another picture. Sorry for the crappy image quality the speakers look much better in person.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s159/swedgen/paint2.jpg

Are the C-series that bad or what?? Their getting great reviews...plus I just looked and shipping is $100 for the 362's to my house....kinda dumb. I can get the whole Energy setup for $470 and it seems the primus setup would be quite a bit more than that. Im a college student so this is already enough money for me.

The C series is very good, plus you get free shipping.

Different sound from the Primus and Energy. Listener preference decides which one is better. You can't go wrong with either.

If you want the Primus 362, drag your azz to Dallas! They've got 4 stores in the area and all of them have the Primus 362 in stock. Its cheaper for you to drive there than the $100 it would cost in shipping. I could go that distance for less than $40 in my 1990 Acura with 280K miles on it. It can't be but a tank of gas round trip unless you have a gas guzzler. And you'll actually be able to hear them in person.

You're in college, that's what weekends are for....road trips!

looks like a matte finish?
what paint did you use?

Nice work twoshoes. It definitely makes the speakers more attractive, though perhaps others would argue less unique! Did you use regular interior latex paint?

The C series is very good, plus you get free shipping.

Different sound from the Primus and Energy. Listener preference decides which one is better. You can't go wrong with either.

If you want the Primus 362, drag your azz to Dallas! They've got 4 stores in the area and all of them have the Primus 362 in stock. Its cheaper for you to drive there than the $100 it would cost in shipping. I could go that distance for less than $40 in my 1990 Acura with 280K miles on it. It can't be but a tank of gas round trip unless you have a gas guzzler. And you'll actually be able to hear them in person.

You're in college, that's what weekends are for....road trips!



What are their differences in sound?? Also, my truck is def. a gas guzzler! I get 12mpg and about 15 on the highway. UGH sucks!

Those all black Primus' look nice!!! Good job! I still think the Energy's look much better though

Nice work twoshoes. It definitely makes the speakers more attractive, though perhaps others would argue less unique! Did you use regular interior latex paint?

The paint I used was Rust-Oleum Metalic for the rings and Satin for the face.

It was a pretty easy project. I took my time masking everything and making sure the surfaces were clean by rubbing everything down with rubbing alcohol before I painted.

I've seen both in person and think the Energy's look better. Love the gloss finish on the front baffle. To me it has the better build quality but the Infinity doesn't look bad.

Energy is a more neutral, mellow speaker than the Primus. You probably get crisper highs from the Infinity.

If you go by list prices, the Primus 362 probably compares to the Energy C-500. Both have dual 6.5" drivers also.

You can't go wrong with either, if you're trying to save money, get the Energy.

Are Infinity Primus speakers/sub good choice for music? Or they mostly suitable for HT (movies)?

IMO, they're good for both.

Personally I find them adequate enough to be used for stereo listening without a subwoofer for music.

I agree. The Primus speakers are great for either music or movies.
I have the 162s matted to a Beta series SW12 subwoofer (it has RABOS), and I am very happy. In fact, I listen to a lot more stereo music than I watch movies.
I also have a pari of Beta 20s in another room. The bass extends farther on those, and I am definitely satisfied without a subwoofer. There really isn't much of a difference between the two otherwise, though the Betas seem to have a slight edge in detail retrieval.
Bottom line: I can't imagine you'll be disappointed with the Primus series for music. They're really great speakers.

I jumped a pair of these P362 at Fry's and am now waitng for my receiver to arrive!

I got an used Marantz SR8000 receiver on eBay for $150 shipped. I figured since I will be mainly using this system for CD music, I'd rather get an higher-end receiver even if it doesn't have HDMI. If I ever need to connect HDMI video, I can just connect it straight to the TV and use a harmony remote to control everything. It was a hard choice though since you can get an refurb SR4002 on ebay from a4l for a very good price.

Can't wait!

Any body seen any deals on a PC350 center?It is like there is price fixing on these things

Seems like Ebay is the place to find em. They can be had every once in awhile for cheap from private seller's.


I wish I could figure out whether I want to go with the P362's, 152's and 350 or the Energy C-300's, C-100's, and C-C100!!! I have to make my mind up by tomorrow b/c I have a friend in TX that will pick up a pair of P362's at Fry's for me if I decide that's what I want. I have no way to audition either one so that's why I'm very unsure...plus im a college student and I already hate spending this much w/o hearing. I went to a store here in OK that has the Primus line but they only had the 252's. They sounded decent but kinda tinny and hollow...could have been the Yamaha 365 that was playing it or the settings. I just dont want to always worry what if the other setup was better. To me....it seems as if the Primus line is a bit more "highly regarded" but it seems that all the hype has blow over b/c I haven't heard much about them lately. Everyone also seems to be really happy with their Energy setups and they say that its a more neutral speaker. I like neutral but I also have the treble a bit up on everything I ever use....car stereo...my other stereo...so that might help with my decision making. If anyone has any thoughts or anything than please let me know. I don't have much time to decide....b/c I dont want to pay $70+ in shipping if I decide I want the 362 later.

Why don't you get the Infinity since you have a friend picking them up for you. If it turns out you don't like them, you've got 30 days to take them back to Dallas.

You're going to agonize over whatever decision you make, I can already tell that.

To me....it seems as if the Primus line is a bit more "highly regarded" but it seems that all the hype has blow over b/c I haven't heard much about them lately.

There's nothing new to say about the Primus, those low Fry's prices have been going on for over a year. A review from 6-12 months ago vs one made a few weeks ago doesn't change the character of the speaker.

You just need to pull the trigger and stop worrying. Either brand will sound better than anything you've ever had so I have no doubt you'll be impressed whatever you get.

Recently hooked up my PC350 center and had some problems last night. I was watching a blu-ray (Step Brothers) and noticed the dialog was very flat/muffled/quiet coming out of the center. When music or louder scenes that involved the 2 mains (P250's) came on, everything sounded fine. The audio was Dolby True HD and was decoded by my PS3 and passed to my Onkyo 605. This is the first time I have noticed this and it was fairly obvious. Anyone have any ideas?

Note: I am crossing the PC350 over @ 80hz and ran Audessey. I increased the decibles Audessey set by 4 already.

Can anyone help with the above question?

Recently hooked up my PC350 center and had some problems last night. I was watching a blu-ray (Step Brothers) and noticed the dialog was very flat/muffled/quiet coming out of the center. When music or louder scenes that involved the 2 mains (P250's) came on, everything sounded fine. The audio was Dolby True HD and was decoded by my PS3 and passed to my Onkyo 605. This is the first time I have noticed this and it was fairly obvious. Anyone have any ideas?

Note: I am crossing the PC350 over @ 80hz and ran Audessey. I increased the decibles Audessey set by 4 already.

If you're having this problem on EVERY format you use, from DVD, SACD, DVD-A, to MP3 and beyond then the speaker may be at fault. If not then you need to look beyond this speaker limited thread for answers. I sincerely doubt that your speakers are the problem. There are threads on this forum that deal with your issues. Good luck.

Well I'm just stopping in to say Hi as a new primus owner, I just finished my new set up with a pair of 362's up front, a 350 center and 252 surrounds. They are from my experience a very good value for the price, not the best I have heard but very good for the price, I would have to pay 2-3x more to get better speakers here.

I noticed that the P152's have hooks to allow them to be hung up on walls, but the P162's don't. How are people getting the P162's hung up? Thanks.

hey, im just wondering if anyone can give me some insight. Im wondering how the P362 compares to the PSB Image T55. The difference in price is pretty drastic, and was wondering if the T55s were worth the price difference.

Well I'm just stopping in to say Hi as a new primus owner, I just finished my new set up with a pair of 362's up front, a 350 center and 252 surrounds. They are from my experience a very good value for the price, not the best I have heard but very good for the price, I would have to pay 2-3x more to get better speakers here.

Congratulations on your recent purchase. :D

I noticed that the P152's have hooks to allow them to be hung up on walls, but the P162's don't. How are people getting the P162's hung up? Thanks.

The P162's aren't designed to be wall-mounted. They are pretty heavy.

But you could improvise by using some of those metallic L-brackets, or something else DIY.

OK, Primus P162.

I want to put in Eric Clapton and BB King. I want to hear some detail. I prefer to the bright side, will the Infinity's pull this off?

Anyone compared the Primus line to the JBL ES series?

The comments on Energy C-200's being very flat and losing detail have caused me to step back.

Thanks for the help.

I ended up using the BR1 brackets from Home Theater Direct to mount my P152's due to a unique "in drop ceiling" mounting situation I was stuck with. I was a little worried about having to move the crossovers in the speakers but I was able to mount right into the cabinet without damaging the internals. Overall, the mounts aren't perfect but they are working out very well for my situation.

Anyone compared the Primus line to the JBL ES series?

I was only able to compare the Primus PC350 + P362 to JBL's Studio L Series LC2 + L880.

The JBL's were brighter too me, I'm guessing that's because of the additional supertweeter they have. Not sure if the ES series are the same.

I bought a pc350 last night on e-bay,refurb from harmon store.I am sure someone on here kept out bidding me but I finally got one,lol,for a decent price.Next month I buy my receiver,I can hardly wait

Hey guys I've had pair of P362s for a few months now. Anyway I was listening to a song and I noticed this weird distortion and crackling coming from the right P362. I only notice it at certain volumes. I don't hear it from the left one. Is one of my speakers blown?

Just want to say thanks to everyone who has posted in this thread. I found a lot of great information here. I'm upgrading from my 8 year old Sony satellite speakers and am anxiously awaiting delivery of (3) 362's tomorrow.

My wife, on the other hand, is not so thrilled. I told her I was going to buy them, but she claims otherwise. Maybe this will teach her to listen when I speak.

Just want to say thanks to everyone who has posted in this thread. I found a lot of great information here. I'm upgrading from my 8 year old Sony satellite speakers and am anxiously awaiting delivery of (3) 362's tomorrow.

My wife, on the other hand, is not so thrilled. I told her I was going to buy them, but she claims otherwise. Maybe this will teach her to listen when I speak.

I have 12 Infinity speakers, and my wife never knew about any of them until they were set up and running. Those days are over; but...assuming you're using a decent amp/receiver - if she doesn't hear and appreciate the difference between the Primi and Sonys then you may have issues.:)

Hey guys I've had pair of P362s for a few months now. Anyway I was listening to a song and I noticed this weird distortion and crackling coming from the right P362. I only notice it at certain volumes. I don't hear it from the left one. Is one of my speakers blown?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Possibly a blown tweeter....:confused:

There are ways to check if its your tweet or x-over...not sure how though...hopefully someone will chime in for ya. Until then...i suggest your search the forums for how to check that..

[QUOTE=GLBright;...assuming you're using a decent amp/receiver - if she doesn't hear and appreciate the difference between the Primi and Sonys then you may have issues.:)[/QUOTE]

I recently picked up a Denon AVR-889, so I'm not anticipating her NOT being able to hear the difference. Now, whether or not she WANTS to hear a difference...that's another story.

She came home from the store earlier tonight with a new coffee maker...not that there was anything wrong with the one we had, she just "didn't like it". Then she started in about the speakers I bought...she said the ones I have are just fine. I told her the coffee that's going to come out of that new coffee maker is not going to be any different than the coffee coming out of the one we already had. The new speakers however, ARE going to sound different than the current ones.

She just looked at me like I had lobsters crawling out of my ears. Maybe if I hadn't recently bought the receiver and the new 52" Sammy 750 if wouldn't be a big deal to her. I think her real problem is she doesn't like the look of big speakers; she thinks they have a "dated" look. Her spirits lifted when I told her I could laminate over them to whatever she liked.

I have no intentions of doing so, but she doesn't know that.

Just take her to dinner and tell her you love her...thats good enough

Originally Posted by septim
Hey guys I've had pair of P362s for a few months now. Anyway I was listening to a song and I noticed this weird distortion and crackling coming from the right P362. I only notice it at certain volumes. I don't hear it from the left one. Is one of my speakers blown?

Did you try switching the two towers around? If the same speaker still crackles then maybe you have a driver or crossover problem. But hey, you've got a 5 year warranty so you're covered.

Anyone?

If you had a rattling, I would tell you to cut off the magnetic shielding cans surrounding your drivers. For the crackling, I'm not so sure.

OK, i pulled the trigger last night and ordered 2 p362 from fry's. i figured the deal was too good to pass up and i wont feel guilty upgrading if i have to down the road.

Now, quick question; I will be running a 2.0 setup for now, do i have to run mcacc on the pioneer or is that only necessary for surround sound 5.1 or 7.1?

Hey, if anybody needs a pair of p160's, 360's, 140's send a PM. I also have a pair of 150's with ding on lower rear corner invisible from front. Oh, and a CSW10 and one of the new PS310 wireless subs. And a pair of the Intermezzo 2.6p's. The Revel F32's are staying, so everything else has to go in order to make the 32's seem more...affordable...to my wife. I need to go cry a little.

Well folks, I've had by P362's and PC350 for a while now and loving them.

See current setup below..funny there's a PC350 right under the TV but you cant' see it in any of the pics hardly.

However, for the rear of the room, I am not so excited by the P142-P162 aesthetically. The room is a lot of tan and wood and brick in the rear. Has anyone paired the front Primus gear with another rear set and been happy with it?

Again my ability to audition is pretty much nil. But would like some opinions...

I"m attaching a room design as well so placement suggestions would be great as well for the completion of the 5.1 (currently using the bookshelf speakers from the old Fisher setup)

Don't know that it matters per this question but also running a Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX that I got for a steal as well. All driven by a Marantz SR5003.

I'm seriously considering the C-R100's that wwstereo has on sale. Any thoughts about mixing them in with the rest of my Primus gear.

PC350 or P162 as Center
A couple of weeks ago, I posed a question about which would be best: a PC350 or P162 as a center channel speaker with my P362 fronts. Someone pointed out that the PC350 has more drivers. But its frequency response is more narrow than the P162: 80hz as opposed to 49hz. (By the way, I watch/listen to about 60% movies and 40% music, and for my tastes, the bass is great for both without a sub - so I don't plan on getting one.)

1. Which would be better as a center channel for movies?
2. If I listen to stereo music matrixed to 5.0 surround or to a multi channel sound recording, will I be missing anything with the PC350?
Thanks!

I'm upgrading from my 8 year old Sony satellite speakers and am anxiously awaiting delivery of (3) 362's tomorrow.

Nice speakers. Kind of curious what you're going to do with three of them, though.

PC350 or P162 as Center
A couple of weeks ago, I posed a question about which would be best: a PC350 or P162 as a center channel speaker with my P362 fronts. Someone pointed out that the PC350 has more drivers. But its frequency response is more narrow than the P162: 80hz as opposed to 49hz.

I use the P162 as my fronts and surrounds. The 6.5 inch driver gives them the lower frequency response. You'd almost certainly be better off with the dedicated center channel (the whole "laying a 2-way speaker on its side thing"), and that 3-way PC350 matches your 362s.

I use the PC-250 for my setup and it's perfectly matched.

Don't forget that center channel information is all dialogue: there's no real reason for any capability less than 80hz.

Well, I disagree as long as the 162 is sitting upright, that is vertically.
The special horizontal center speaker, as great as the 350 is (and I use one in a cabinet, right under my TV) is a compromise. 3 identical speakers for the front is ideal (or in your case two of the towers and one bookshelf as the center makes an intriguing match), but most of use can't do it--ie, spouse won't allow it, we use a non perforated projection screen, can't wall mount tv, can't wall mount tv high enough, etc. If you try this, it will be important to keep the tweeters all at the same level. Might make finding a stand tricky?
good luck and keep us posted!

Hello Everyone,
New guy posting but have been lurking this site for awhile. I picked up a pair of 360,s and a c25 last week. Practically brand new and not sure if they have even been broken in yet. I have to say that this set is fantastic. The sound quality is excellent even with my old class A amp.

After listening for a few days to a wide range of music about the only weakness is the lack of low end punch. That is probably due to my amp not being able to drive these speakers well (85wpc 2.0). None the less, I was able to pick up a Velodyne VRP1000 sub from Costco at a great price.
That added just the right amount of low end I was looking for in a 2.1 setup.

I am pulling the trigger this week on a Pio Sc-05/07 and was wondering if anyone has any comments pro/con on this combination.

Thanks and a big thumbs up to everyone who has posted in this thread. Great info.

PC350 or P162 as Center

I use the P162 as my fronts and surrounds. The 6.5 inch driver gives them the lower frequency response. You'd almost certainly be better off with the dedicated center channel (the whole "laying a 2-way speaker on its side thing"), and that 3-way PC350 matches your 362s.

I use the PC-250 for my setup and it's perfectly matched.

Don't forget that center channel information is all dialogue: there's no real reason for any capability less than 80hz.

Good point Otto. But I plan to place the P162 upright, on the highest stand I can without covering the TV screen. But I'm still open to the PC350 if someone can point out an advantage it has over a vertical P162 as a center.

PC350 or P162 as Center

Well, I disagree as long as the 162 is sitting upright, that is vertically.
The special horizontal center speaker, as great as the 350 is (and I use one in a cabinet, right under my TV) is a compromise. 3 identical speakers for the front is ideal (or in your case two of the towers and one bookshelf as the center makes an intriguing match), but most of use can't do it--ie, spouse won't allow it, we use a non perforated projection screen, can't wall mount tv, can't wall mount tv high enough, etc. If you try this, it will be important to keep the tweeters all at the same level. Might make finding a stand tricky?
good luck and keep us posted!

Thanks for your response amicusterrae.

When you say the PC350 is a compromise, are you talking about the acoustical anomalies that occur when you orient the speaker drivers horizontally?

Would the number of drivers of the PC350 or the addition of midrange drivers make it a better match for the P362 fronts? ...for both movies and 5 channel music?

I'd be curious to know if anyone has done a real world comparison of a vertical P162 and a horizontal PC350 as a center with P362 fronts.

Well folks, I've had by P362's and PC350 for a while now and loving them.

See current setup below..funny there's a PC350 right under the TV but you cant' see it in any of the pics hardly.

However, for the rear of the room, I am not so excited by the P142-P162 aesthetically. The room is a lot of tan and wood and brick in the rear. Has anyone paired the front Primus gear with another rear set and been happy with it?

Again my ability to audition is pretty much nil. But would like some opinions...

I"m attaching a room design as well so placement suggestions would be great as well for the completion of the 5.1 (currently using the bookshelf speakers from the old Fisher setup)

Don't know that it matters per this question but also running a Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX that I got for a steal as well. All driven by a Marantz SR5003.

I'm seriously considering the C-R100's that wwstereo has on sale. Any thoughts about mixing them in with the rest of my Primus gear.

I am wondering the same thing

PC350 or P162 as Center
When you say the PC350 is a compromise, are you talking about the acoustical anomalies that occur when you orient the speaker drivers horizontally?


Basically, yes. I'm just a city slicker lawyer, so my science is a bit lacking, but check out this layman's primer:
http://theaudiocritic.com/plog/index.php?op=Default&blogId=1&&page=2
(scroll down over 3/4 way down for center channel speaker article).

I don't have room for floor standing speakers so I am running P162 in the fronts. What is the matching center? Should I run the PC250 or the PC350 or does it matter?

I don't have room for floor standing speakers so I am running P162 in the fronts. What is the matching center? Should I run the PC250 or the PC350 or does it matter?

The PC250 has three speakers, but it's still a two-way and is theoretically a better match for your two-way P162s. It's what I use with my four P162s.

That said, I watch mostly movies and there is a lot of information in that center channel. Sometimes I wonder whether those extra 3-inch mids in the 350 wouldn't be better. But you may run the risk of overpowering your fronts.

I'd stick with the 250. And, hey, it's about a foot smaller and a good bit cheaper.

I actually use the 350 with a pair of 162s. It's been great. I was watching Lord of the Rings again (first time since getting the center), and I was hearing dialogue better than ever before.
So, at least for movies I don't feel it has overpowered the mains.
However, I no longer like listening to music in multichannel because it seems like the center does take over too much. Of course, that is probably results from the DTS / Dolby matrixing. I'll have to try some concert DVDs that are mixed in 5.1 to see it the center seems overpowering.

OK. I went with the PC350. This is mainly for movies and I figured the center is the most important speaker since thats where the majority of the dialogue will come from. What do you think?

OK. I went with the PC350. This is mainly for movies and I figured the center is the most important speaker since thats where the majority of the dialogue will come from. What do you think?

I believe you'll be fine as long as you calibrate your speakers.

Kind of curious what you're going to do with three of them, though.

Probably this:

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/editedhtsetup.jpg

Probably this:

How I wish I can do that! :p The display seems really high up though.

Probably this:

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/editedhtsetup.jpg

Dude! How big is that sub???

Dude! How big is that sub???

Can I take a guess? It looks like a 15-incher.