I would agree that the tv screen is better than the computer screen for this purpose, that's for sure (unless your computer is always handy, of course). I just don't like the idea of having to turn on/leave on my tv solely for this purpose, but I can see how doing this might not be worth a second thought to some.

You don't "have" to leave your tv on, unless of course you need to do something. You can turn it off and it will play just fine without the TV on provided of course that TiVo is hooked up to your amplifier.

.. yes, but every time you want to do a search for another album or track to play, or create another playlist, or see where you are at (what's coming up next, etc.) within the current playlist, you have to turn the tv back on to navigate the audio terrain. On and off. On and off. On and off. Can't be a good thing for your television longevity.

Not the end of the world here. I'm not trying to be overly dramatic about it.. I just like the extra convenience and flexibility. If you've got your big playlist or album lined up and you are always content to let it go on it's own, it's not such a big deal. I simply prefer to have up to the minute, change on a dime, at this very second I'm in the mood for...' flexibility, without having to fire up the tv screen or run to the computer screen.

Plus, there's the whole quality of the DAC aspect, which we haven't addressed. To the casual listener it probably doesn't make much noticeable difference, but dedicated music streaming devices tend to sound a little better because of their generally superior built-in digital analog converters, especially if you have better equipment surrounding it.

...from two companies (Sony and Microsoft) who have continually shown that they can't properly write software. Just because they're popular as gaming platforms doesn't mean that they'll succeed as DVRs or IPTV receivers.We'll have to agree to disagree (in part) on that. I'm not a huge fan of Sony user interface design (the PS3's Cross Media Bar is a nightmare, IMHO) but I find the Xbox 360's Dashboard to be an excellent piece of work. It's not perfect to be sure, but it's really quite smooth and very powerful and I haven't run across any bugs in it (not to say there aren't some, just none that've affected me).

My question in my mind is not whether Microsoft can write a decent UI for television--before TiVo existed I was an original WebTV user and it was pretty damn good (of course, MS didn't create it but they own the property). I never bother with the Media Center UI, but it's not bad. My question is whether IPTV is going to prosper as an idea. Only time and marketing will tell :D.

We'll have to agree to disagree (in part) on that. I'm not a huge fan of Sony user interface design (the PS3's Cross Media Bar is a nightmare, IMHO) but I find the Xbox 360's Dashboard to be an excellent piece of work. It's not perfect to be sure, but it's really quite smooth and very powerful and I haven't run across any bugs in it (not to say there aren't some, just none that've affected me).

...provided your Xbox360 doesn't suffer from the Red Circle of Death (tm). :)


My question in my mind is not whether Microsoft can write a decent UI for television--before TiVo existed I was an original WebTV user and it was pretty damn good (of course, MS didn't create it but they own the property). I never bother with the Media Center UI, but it's not bad. My question is whether IPTV is going to prosper as an idea. Only time and marketing will tell :D.

Yeah... There's no way I'm letting M$ near my TV.

Unfortunately, they have deep enough pockets where they can repeatedly screw up iteration after iteration (usually, it's about 3x) of a bogus product to get it juuuuust barely tolerable for normal consumption.

With all of the talk on advanced features I thought I would ask about a very basic function that possibly I am not understanding. I used to have a on-screen guide with the Dishnetwork and it was very easy to skip ahead into the future information by entering the number of hours to advance and hit enter. I have discovered that the arrow to the right of select on the S3 advances by one half hour and the fast forward button advances an hour and a half. Is there any way to quickly move hours or even days ahead?
This was especially frustrating when I went out of town and needed to record something 3 days in advance, having to hold down the button and scroll through the guide. This is one reason I usually prefer to look at the guide on zap2it.com and decide what I want to record then go to the Tivo and set up the recording.
Any hints would be appreciated.

With all of the talk on advanced features I thought I would ask about a very basic function that possibly I am not understanding. I used to have a on-screen guide with the Dishnetwork and it was very easy to skip ahead into the future information by entering the number of hours to advance and hit enter. I have discovered that the arrow to the right of select on the S3 advances by one half hour and the fast forward button advances an hour and a half. Is there any way to quickly move hours or even days ahead?
This was especially frustrating when I went out of town and needed to record something 3 days in advance, having to hold down the button and scroll through the guide. This is one reason I usually prefer to look at the guide on zap2it.com and decide what I want to record then go to the Tivo and set up the recording.
Any hints would be appreciated.

Hit the "Info" button on the remote (or it might be called "Display" now) while the guide is on the screen. This will bring up a screen that lets you specify the day and time that you want to see. Enter your choices, and it will jump to that time/date.

I have a new question...I noticed on the tivo central menu at the bottom, the line that said "preview The Darjeeling Limited", like we've had there before. When I clicked on it, it offered to find showtimes in my area, and that was it - no other options. so I clicked on that, and it cleared the screen and then just said "please wait" for a long time - probably 45-60 seconds - before I gave up and just went back to tivo central. No preview, nothing else...????

Is this normal? I've never had one of these "preview" things work for me, they always just go to "find showtimes" or "watch a silverado commercial" or whatever...am I missing something??

I have a new question...I noticed on the tivo central menu at the bottom, the line that said "preview The Darjeeling Limited", like we've had there before. When I clicked on it, it offered to find showtimes in my area, and that was it - no other options. so I clicked on that, and it cleared the screen and then just said "please wait" for a long time - probably 45-60 seconds - before I gave up and just went back to tivo central. No preview, nothing else...????

Is this normal? I've never had one of these "preview" things work for me, they always just go to "find showtimes" or "watch a silverado commercial" or whatever...am I missing something??

Is your Tivo hooked up to Broadband? Or do you use a phone connection for the guide updates? I think it has to have a broadband connection for those things to work.

With all of the talk on advanced features I thought I would ask about a very basic function that possibly I am not understanding. I used to have a on-screen guide with the Dishnetwork and it was very easy to skip ahead into the future information by entering the number of hours to advance and hit enter. I have discovered that the arrow to the right of select on the S3 advances by one half hour and the fast forward button advances an hour and a half. Is there any way to quickly move hours or even days ahead?
This was especially frustrating when I went out of town and needed to record something 3 days in advance, having to hold down the button and scroll through the guide. This is one reason I usually prefer to look at the guide on zap2it.com and decide what I want to record then go to the Tivo and set up the recording.
Any hints would be appreciated.

Hi MisterB,

Another thing you might find useful is that you can link your TiVo account to Zap2It. Once you do that, you can select a show there and it will be sent to your TiVo to record. I agree that their interface is much better than the one on tivo.com. You can also link up Yahoo with TiVo, although I am unclear on whether it works with the HD Tivos. Yahoo states you need a Series 2, but I'm guessing that in reality you need a Series 2 or higher....I'm pretty sure someone else here will be able to confirm that...

Anyway, hope that helps...

Randy

With all of the talk on advanced features I thought I would ask about a very basic function that possibly I am not understanding. I used to have a on-screen guide with the Dishnetwork and it was very easy to skip ahead into the future information by entering the number of hours to advance and hit enter. I have discovered that the arrow to the right of select on the S3 advances by one half hour and the fast forward button advances an hour and a half. Is there any way to quickly move hours or even days ahead?
This was especially frustrating when I went out of town and needed to record something 3 days in advance, having to hold down the button and scroll through the guide. This is one reason I usually prefer to look at the guide on zap2it.com and decide what I want to record then go to the Tivo and set up the recording.
Any hints would be appreciated.

An alternative method would be to re-think how you're using the box. Rather than surfing the guide data trying to find what you want to record, let the TiVo find it for you. Go into TiVoCentral->FindPrograms and enter the first few letters of the program name. I

An alternative method would be to re-think how you're using the box. Rather than surfing the guide data trying to find what you want to record, let the TiVo find it for you. Go into TiVoCentral->FindPrograms and enter the first few letters of the program name. II have to agree with Mister B on this one. Day advance through the guide is one of the things that I miss from Passport Echo (along with color coding of programming and things to be recorded and the ability to set the order in which recordings will be deleted). It's sometimes the most intuitive way to do what you want.

I have to agree with Mister B on this one. Day advance through the guide is one of the things that I miss from Passport Echo (along with color coding of programming and things to be recorded and the ability to set the order in which recordings will be deleted). It's sometimes the most intuitive way to do what you want.

I agree, it's one of the things that has bugged me about the TiVo, why go through a 4-5 button push sequence when continually pressing one button could move the guide a specified amount of time.

The other thing is, why is the TiVo the only DVR system(that I'm aware of) that doesn't have a record(ing) icon in the program guide. I've used Moto cable boxes, sat boxes from DirecTV, Dish and Star Choice and software PC DVR solutions, and they all have a record indicator.

The other thing is, why is the TiVo the only DVR system(that I'm aware of) that doesn't have a record(ing) icon in the program guide. I've used Moto cable boxes, sat boxes from DirecTV, Dish and Star Choice and software PC DVR solutions, and they all have a record indicator.I often waste my time going to a program in the guide to request that it be recorded, only to find that it's already set to record. I'd call it and out-and-out design flaw. Even the new TiVo UI for Comcast Moto boxes has a to-be-recorded indicator in the guide.

Gentlemen,

Respectfully we are running down the road of rehashing things that have been discussed to death again.

Yes all these little things would be nice but TiVo doesn't have them. They also don't have a disk space left indicator. I thought I'd drop that one in before someone else does.

What you do get from TiVo is a To Do List. You want to see whats recording at what time, look there. Also you get reliability that TiVo is going to actually record what you want it to. That's something I never had with the SA 8300.

And yes I know that also has been discussed to death as well.

Hi MisterB,

Another thing you might find useful is that you can link your TiVo account to Zap2It. Once you do that, you can select a show there and it will be sent to your TiVo to record. I agree that their interface is much better than the one on tivo.com. You can also link up Yahoo with TiVo, although I am unclear on whether it works with the HD Tivos. Yahoo states you need a Series 2, but I'm guessing that in reality you need a Series 2 or higher....I'm pretty sure someone else here will be able to confirm that...

Anyway, hope that helps...

Randy

Yes, it works with s3, but...I have off the air and cable both on mine. Problem is, I don't see a way on zap2it to select the hd feed (either the ota or the cable), and it only tries to record the sd feed, since you just select by network and not by actual channel...(I can select the correct channel on tivo.com).

Is your Tivo hooked up to Broadband? Or do you use a phone connection for the guide updates? I think it has to have a broadband connection for those things to work.

Yep, broadband. Both of them, but same results on both.

Do you see anything in the menu after selecting "preview" besides "find showtimes in your area"?

I often waste my time going to a program in the guide to request that it be recorded, only to find that it's already set to record. I'd call it and out-and-out design flaw. Even the new TiVo UI for Comcast Moto boxes has a to-be-recorded indicator in the guide.

You could check the ToDo List as well. Keying Tivo+2 on the remote takes no time at all.

Yes, it works with s3, but...I have off the air and cable both on mine. Problem is, I don't see a way on zap2it to select the hd feed (either the ota or the cable), and it only tries to record the sd feed, since you just select by network and not by actual channel...(I can select the correct channel on tivo.com).


Yeah, zap2it defaults to the SD channel. To make it choose the HD version, you need to go to the grid view, select the HD version of the channel in the grid and manually select the program. I don't know of a way to tell it to "prefer" the HD version of a channel...

Yeah, zap2it defaults to the SD channel. To make it choose the HD version, you need to go to the grid view, select the HD version of the channel in the grid and manually select the program. I don't know of a way to tell it to "prefer" the HD version of a channel...

thanks, I'll have to look at that option.

You could check the ToDo List as well. Keying Tivo+2 on the remote takes no time at all.

One thing I've noticed with this...since I programmed a key on my pronto to do this with one keystroke...if you're already on the tivo central screen, tivo+2 does not work...I was thinking of adjusting the macro to do a right arrow or a select first, which I don't think would hurt if I'm not on the tivo central screen, but it would get me off that screen if I was.

One thing I've noticed with this...since I programmed a key on my pronto to do this with one keystroke...if you're already on the tivo central screen, tivo+2 does not work...I was thinking of adjusting the macro to do a right arrow or a select first, which I don't think would hurt if I'm not on the tivo central screen, but it would get me off that screen if I was.

Since the macros on the Pronto aren't stateful, you'll have to be a bit trickier about using one like you're intending to do.

One sure-fire way to get to the ToDo List would be to have your macro set up as such : "Live" + "Tivo" + "2"

It will take a bit of time, as the TiVo brings up the LiveTV view, but it's really the only way I can figure to get the thing into a deterministic state for that macro to run properly.

Yeah, zap2it defaults to the SD channel. To make it choose the HD version, you need to go to the grid view, select the HD version of the channel in the grid and manually select the program. I don't know of a way to tell it to "prefer" the HD version of a channel...

Since MisterB was talking about the on-screen guide, I was thinking grid all the way. I didn't think of searching for a particular program on Zap2It. I haven't been able to find a way to make it come up with the HD feed in that situation, even if you don't have it display the non-HD channels in the grid.

FWIW, put me down as another person that can't understand why there is no indication that a show is scheduled to be recorded in the program guide...I can understand some problems with displaying space available given various recording requirements, etc., but I don't get the lack of what should be a basic functionality. And while I also agree that it has probably been hashed and rehashed here, if we can sing the praises of the same old features daily on the forum, there's no harm in discussing the shortcomings more than once, too, is there? ;)

Randy

FWIW, put me down as another person that can't understand why there is no indication that a show is scheduled to be recorded in the program guide...I can understand some problems with displaying space available given various recording requirements, etc., but I don't get the lack of what should be a basic functionality. And while I also agree that it has probably been hashed and rehashed here, if we can sing the praises of the same old features daily on the forum, there's no harm in discussing the shortcomings more than once, too, is there? ;)
Randy

I think it's all a matter of how you look at the thing. Personally, I rarely use the program guide. I'll find and schedule recordings via FindPrograms or WishLists, and check to see what's upcoming in the ToDo List. The guide is only there for when I'm just bopping around looking for something to watch when I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel in my NowPlaying List. For me, it's there purely to show what's currently playing on channels, nothing more and nothing less.

It's fundamentally different than how most (all?) of the other DVRs on the market force you to traverse the guide to get stuff done. Might be because of TiVo's patent portfolio. Who knows...

Bicker, Did 9.1 address the CC issues successfully?Yes, it sure did.

Thanks for all of the good suggestions. The most important to me was how to advance rapidly through time on the guide. I had actually seen that screen before as the owner's manual explained how to change the grid to show only favorites, but just did not notice the other selections on the menu.
I linked the zap2it to the Tivo which was actually quite easy as I had already linked the Tivo to Amazon Unbox. (Yes, it is a shame Unbox is only SD but if a show is letter boxed 16:9 I can zoom in and fill the screen much like I have to do with my local digital sub channel CW network). I set up a recording on zap2it and within 10 minutes it was on the to do list, although I am not sure I want to do this as a practice. I usually feel the more steps that a technology has to go through the more chances for a problem to arise.
Finally, I will admit that I use the Tivo much like I have used VCR's since my first Betamax. Most of the time I just want to time-shift one OTA show to a more convenient time. I do like to gather some of the home repair type shows on PBS that are shown only on the weekend and watch them throughout the week. I am just not ready to let the box decide for me what to record.
Thanks again for the prompt and numerous suggestions.

Gentlemen,

Respectfully we are running down the road of rehashing things that have been discussed to death again.

Yes all these little things would be nice but TiVo doesn't have them. They also don't have a disk space left indicator. I thought I'd drop that one in before someone else does.

What you do get from TiVo is a To Do List. You want to see whats recording at what time, look there. Also you get reliability that TiVo is going to actually record what you want it to. That's something I never had with the SA 8300.

And yes I know that also has been discussed to death as well.

All true, of course we can still wish for it to happen can't we? :)

The thing is, anyone who comes from another platform, and all that I can think of have that indicator, they'll be missing that. The To Do List is great, but a picture is worth a thousand words, to see a visual representation in the guide is a much simpler method, something the TDL will never be as good at.

You could check the ToDo List as well. Keying Tivo+2 on the remote takes no time at all.I just checked--it takes about 2 seconds and another 5-6 seconds before the To Do list appears. I've seen the program in the guide and want to make sure that I record it and it doesn't require any more time to go over and click the guide entry than it does to look at the To Do List. Why not just show me with color coding or a little icon on the guide which programs are already set to record? However I check to make sure that I'm going to record it is going to take more time than that.

There are always other ways to accomplish anything, but a truly good user-interface design always incorporates the intuitive ways, anticipating the user's wants and needs. As keenan points out, he's used several UIs which give a visual indication in the guide of which programs are set to record and so have I (VideoGuide (http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/videoguide/), WebTV, Passport Echo and SARA). Each of them had some amount of program genre indication on the guide. Even TiVo's Comcast UI has to-be-recorded indicators, probably at the insistence of Comcast (its grid guide also has a nice "HD" program indicator). Why not TiVo branded units?

The priority page for 9.2 is now avaliable....

http://research.tivo.com/91priority/index.htm

The 9.2 software is improved in every way over 9.1. Get. It. Now.

It adds official support for eSATA hard drives from "Tivo partners." The "plug and play" eSATA expansion appears to work with any eSATA drive on the Series3.

Sweet thanks for the link.

The 9.2 software is improved in every way over 9.1. Get. It. Now.

It adds official support for eSATA hard drives from "Tivo partners." The "plug and play" eSATA expansion appears to work with any eSATA drive on the Series3.

bfdtv, I love you man. for all that you do. and for all that you are.

Does anyone know if 9.2 has any affect on those of us who already have eSATA via kickstart 62? Will it transaction smoothly without losing programs?

Does anyone know if 9.2 has any affect on those of us who already have eSATA via kickstart 62? Will it transaction smoothly without losing programs?

TCF is reporting that configs working with 9.1 are still working with 9.2. No reports of 'breakage' that I have seen.

Since the macros on the Pronto aren't stateful, you'll have to be a bit trickier about using one like you're intending to do.

One sure-fire way to get to the ToDo List would be to have your macro set up as such : "Live" + "Tivo" + "2"

It will take a bit of time, as the TiVo brings up the LiveTV view, but it's really the only way I can figure to get the thing into a deterministic state for that macro to run properly.

Yeah, that's why I was thinking of the right arrow or maybe select first...based on when I typically am trying to use it, I think that would work. I'm usually not sitting on a screen with a show listing with "play" highlighted, so I think I'll be okay. I was going to check it out this weekend.

Is there a way to check disc drive of tivo 3 for disc errors..recorded programs (analog cable no cable cards) are starting to playback pixelated..usually well into the program ..thought it was cable but other tivo series 1 sony record same shows from same cable split..with no problems. 25 day old series 3 tivo live tv no problems unscrambled hd cable also seems ok live????

Is there a way to check disc drive of tivo 3 for disc errors..recorded programs (analog cable no cable cards) are starting to playback pixelated..usually well into the program ..thought it was cable but other tivo series 1 sony record same shows from same cable split..with no problems. 25 day old series 3 tivo live tv no problems unscrambled hd cable also seems ok live????

Unless you're a technician, I don't know anyway this can be done. However you say you are splitting off into two other devices. When you had your cable card installed did they check your signals for you at each split? If not, you may be having a loss of signal and that is what is causing your problem.

I would have the cable company come out and check this if they haven't. Despite what the S3 tells you the signal is the techs equipment will tell the true story. If they say the signal is fine then return the S3 before the warranty runs out on it.

No cable cards are installed in unit just cable in..thought I read in thread problems with switched digital video?? just noticed the problem on 2 analog cable channels.. so far..older tivo no problems..series 3 gets a little glitchee and pixels on playback..just wondering if surface disc error on drive causing this

No cable cards are installed in unit just cable in..thought I read in thread problems with switched digital video?? just noticed the problem on 2 analog cable channels.. so far..older tivo no problems..series 3 gets a little glitchee and pixels on playback..just wondering if surface disc error on drive causing this

If it was SDV affected channels none of your TiVo's would receive them because that requires two way communication. In other words, you wouldn't get anything except analog and unencrypted non SDV channels.

Have you tried using your S3 over the air? If you can get a signal you can see if you are still having a problem with local stations. Also why no cable cards? You can pick up local HD via cable but you have no data to set up programming.

I still think its a signal problem specially since you haven't had a tech out to the house. It's important that you have a good signal to get proper reception.

Still if you don't want to go there then return the unit before the warranty expires. Try another unit.

No cable cards are installed in unit just cable in..thought I read in thread problems with switched digital video?? just noticed the problem on 2 analog cable channels.. so far..older tivo no problems..series 3 gets a little glitchee and pixels on playback..just wondering if surface disc error on drive causing thisIf you have not done so already, you may want to increase your recorded quality setting under Settings -> Recording. Most prefer to use "Best."

If you have not done so already, you may want to increase your recorded quality setting under Settings -> Recording. Most prefer to use "Best."


Does that make any difference for HD recordings?
Cheers

Does that make any difference for HD recordings?
Cheers

It only applies to analog recordings. Digital SD and HD recordings are recorded at the bit rate received from the cableco or OTA antenna.

It only applies to analog recordings. Digital SD and HD recordings are recorded at the bit rate received from the cableco or OTA antenna.


Ah thought so, so just pure HD Verizon Fios Quality ..
i like it.

Has anyone upgraded the size of the external drive - i thought 500 would be enough originally, without losing programming already recorded (doh!)

Has anyone upgraded the size of the external drive - i thought 500 would be enough originally, without losing programming already recorded (doh!)Are you saying that it isn't enough for your needs? It should get you a total of 90+ hours of HD recording (combined with the internal 250GB drive), depending on the bit rate of the channels that you record (92 hours and change, assuming an average bit rate of 18 Mbps).

Adding a 1TB drive (for a total of 1250GB) would get you a 154+ hours of 18 Mbps HD recording.

Does that make any difference for HD recordings?
Cheers

Nope. HD recordings are direct copies of the HD bitstream, so no (re)encoding is done. The TiVo simply copies the bits from the channel directly to the hard disk.

Are you saying that it isn't enough for your needs? It should get you a total of 90+ hours of HD recording (combined with the internal 250GB drive), depending on the bit rate of the channels that you record (92 hours and change, assuming an average bit rate of 18 Mbps).

Adding a 1TB drive (for a total of 1250GB) would get you a 154+ hours of 18 Mbps HD recording.


Yeh I get around 97 hours. I think I might have to add the 1TB drive, and lose existing recordings :) Yeah its not quite enough ha

You dont have to lose the existing recordings.... use winmfs

Ah.. sounds interesting.. I'll have to do some research on that tool.
So it will allow you to upgrade the external drive only.

Actually, neither the old kickstart 62 (which only worked with Series 3) or the new external SATA drive support will lose existing recordings when you add a drive. Recordings will be lost if you ever remove the drive, of course.

I have 500gb eSATA. 98 hours is enough for me, but then again I don't permanently keep anything on the drive.

winmfs looks like it might do it without losing any recordings..

winmfs looks like it might do it without losing any recordings..If you're just going to plug an external drive into the box, with the new external drive support (or even the old unsupported S3 method) you will not need to use any tools to avoid losing recordings on the old internal drive.

If you're just going to plug an external drive into the box, with the new external drive support (or even the old unsupported S3 method) you will not need to use any tools to avoid losing recordings on the old internal drive.


I actually already expanded it with KICKSTART 62 method.

Yeh I get around 97 hours. I think I might have to add the 1TB drive, and lose existing recordings :) Yeah its not quite enough haThat 97 hours assumes an average 17 Mbps. Your actual may vary depending on where you live and what you record.

I just got 9.2 on my S3 and everything went smoothly as far as I can tell. The most important thing to me of course was what, if any, problems may result with my already installed eSATA drive.

As Scsiraid reported earlier, I can now confirm there were no problems with the already installed drive.

Now I should let it go with just saying that but I just can't help saying to all the people who were so worried about using the kickstart 62 that they held off all this time, I TOLD YOU SO. There was no way TiVo was going to pull the plug on those of us who already installed, I said it in the beginning and I can confirm it now.:p

However to say that I wasn't a wee bit concerned wouldn't be exactly the truth. I think it will be interesting to hear from those of you who hook it up now. I think it's just plug and play, I didn't see any special settings for it.

I just got 9.2 on my S3 and everything went smoothly as far as I can tell. The most important thing to me of course was what, if any, problems may result with my already installed eSATA drive.

As Scsiraid reported earlier, I can now confirm there were no problems with the already installed drive.

Now I should let it go with just saying that but I just can't help saying to all the people who were so worried about using the kickstart 62 that they held off all this time, I TOLD YOU SO. There was no way TiVo was going to pull the plug on those of us who already installed, I said it in the beginning and I can confirm it now.:p

However to say that I wasn't a wee bit concerned wouldn't be exactly the truth. I think it will be interesting to hear from those of you who hook it up now. I think it's just plug and play, I didn't see any special settings for it.

Great to know, thanks for the info! Did you put yourself on the priority list, or did you just recieve it?

Thanks!

Great to know, thanks for the info! Did you put yourself on the priority list, or did you just recieve it?

Thanks!

I put myself on the priority list on 9/18 when the link was posted. However from what I hear TiVoPony is saying many people may have already been scheduled to receive previously. He said the priority list has to be manually input. So I can't say if I got it for being on the list or just plain dumb luck.

thanks hookbill for efferts on pixelating..tivo says 9.2 software does address pixelating video..maybe just a one time glich as it was only on 1analog channel..never seen it on the hd ..no cable cards..condo pays bulk cable..if my cable company had a few more hd channels then maybe but so far espn and the broadcasters that i get unencrypted anywasyj..kind of a nuisance to manually record hd but it works

If you're just going to plug an external drive into the box, with the new external drive support (or even the old unsupported S3 method) you will not need to use any tools to avoid losing recordings on the old internal drive.

Can you add 2 eSATA Drives? (Daisy chained like firewire devices)? I suppose this would lead to reduced data security, since a disk failure in any of the 3 drives could lead to lost recordings?

I have been doing a lot of traveling this fall and will be doing more, so I need more storage space for my stock S3. When I got home from a 6 day trip last week I discovered that because of a 4.5 hour HD recording of a college football game I had set up before I left and recorded while I was gone, I had lost the last 3 episodes of the second season of NYPD Blue before I could watch them. That was sickening because I had seen every one of that season’s earlier episodes.

Unfortunately, I do not yet have 9.2 and its eSATA support. As the Dukes of Hazard Girl said about 1080i in her HDTV commercial, “I totally don’t know what that [eSATA] is, but I want it.” :)

I know about the various hacks for adding eSATA support for S3s now but I am simply unwilling to chance it until TiVo officially blesses it. Still, I admire those of you who, like Hook, are now benefiting from having done so.

Can you add 2 eSATA Drives? (Daisy chained like firewire devices)? I suppose this would lead to reduced data security, since a disk failure in any of the 3 drives could lead to lost recordings?I'm sure that if the drives are in a system which forms them into a RAID of some kind it'd probably work. Certain types of RAID sets might enhance data security--a multidrive stripe-set with a parity disk would continue to work seamlessly after the complete failure of any single drive, which could be hot swapped with a healthy drive without bringing the system down. Let's say something like this (http://www.raidweb.com/raid-units/sata-raid/sivy3187-4-bay-esata-raid.php); not cheap, but can you really put a price limit on a highly secure home for your television recordings :D?

I have been doing a lot of traveling this fall and will be doing more, so I need more storage space for my stock S3. When I got home from a 6 day trip last week I discovered that because of a 4.5 hour HD recording of a college football game I had set up before I left and recorded while I was gone, I had lost the last 3 episodes of the second season of NYPD Blue before I could watch them. That was sickening because I had seen every one of that season’s earlier episodes.

Unfortunately, I do not yet have 9.2 and its eSATA support. As the Dukes of Hazard Girl said about 1080i in her HDTV commercial, “I totally don’t know what that [eSATA] is, but I want it.” :)

I know about the various hacks for adding eSATA support for S3s now but I am simply unwilling to chance it until TiVo officially blesses it. Still, I admire those of you who, like Hook, are now benefiting from having done so.


eSATA is only one possible solution to your problem. Once TiVo enables TTG/TTCB/MRV, you'll be able to dump recordings to a PC for external storage as well. You'll be able to watch 'em there, or reload them back onto your TiVo when you want to watch 'em.

I signed up for the 9.2 list and yesterday received 9.1. What gives?

I signed up for the 9.2 list and yesterday received 9.1. What gives?Huh. Maybe you can only upgrade to 9.2 from 9.1. Put yourself back on the list.

I was on 9.1, went on the list and got 9.2 yesterday. I haven't tried connecting a eSATA drive yet (I'm gonna buy one of those WD "My DVR Expander" units that seem to be the only one 9.2 recognizes as "Verified"). I can verify that Unbox purchases now start downloading almost immediately after ordering and can be played as soon as the download begins.

Got 9.2 also yesterday, did a forced restart... 1 hr worth of processing on the TIVO (let it restart at 2am or whenever your NOT using it) :)
9.2 seems zippy and responsive.

I signed up for the 9.2 list and yesterday received 9.1. What gives?

You can't get 9.2 until you have 9.1, and they are still sending it out.

eSATA is only one possible solution to your problem. Once TiVo enables TTG/TTCB/MRV, you'll be able to dump recordings to a PC for external storage as well. You'll be able to watch 'em there, or reload them back onto your TiVo when you want to watch 'em.

Moving data off the storage on the tivo would be cool, would allow me to upgrade the size of the e-sata drive also.

I also had 9.1 before I was sent 9.2 yesterday. For those with 9.1 force a connect and you will probably see "Pending Restart" in the sys info section.

TiVo's MRV/TTG went live today for TiVo S3 and TiVo HD. I just transferred a program from my S2 to my S3... worked great.

I now have version 9.2J on my S3, but I am not seeing Rhapsody. Is there a separate software push for that or something? I poked around at TCF and saw a few things that suggested there is. Also, I am pretty much a newbie with TiVo...should I be able to see programs on my TiVo Desktop now that the TTG is activated? I tried to, and it says 'Access is denied.' I tried updating the Desktop and it says I have the latest version. Maybe I'm doing something wrong...any thoughts?

Thanks!
Randy

I now have version 9.2J on my S3, but I am not seeing Rhapsody. Is there a separate software push for that or something? I poked around at TCF and saw a few things that suggested there is. Also, I am pretty much a newbie with TiVo...should I be able to see programs on my TiVo Desktop now that the TTG is activated? I tried to, and it says 'Access is denied.' I tried updating the Desktop and it says I have the latest version. Maybe I'm doing something wrong...any thoughts?

Thanks!
Randy

It popped up without me doing anything in my music, pictures, etc stuff.

I know about the various hacks for adding eSATA support for S3s now but I am simply unwilling to chance it until TiVo officially blesses it. Still, I admire those of you who, like Hook, are now benefiting from having done so.

Since you waited this long you may as well wait until 9.2 arrives. Make sure you put yourself on the priority list. I'm sure you do realize that 9.2 is the blessing you have been waiting for, correct? It will even say so when you get your update message.

If I recall correctly it said, "TiVo gods have now bestowed upon you to use eSATA, and to use it plentifully. Go forth and multiply and expand upon thine hard drive. And to all ye who have already installed eSATA with kickstart 62 you too are now blessed."

Yep, I'm pretty sure that's what it said. I erased it so I may have taken some liberties in the translation. ;)

It popped up without me doing anything in my music, pictures, etc stuff.

Thanks for the info...very odd. That is the area I was looking in, by the way.

I also noticed that it shows that I've never successfully had a VCM connection. I did a little more looking around at TCF and saw that this involves web scheduling, unbox, etc. I have been using those features, however, and haven't had any problems.

Oh well...I'll give it a day and see what happens...thanks!

Randy

TiVo's MRV/TTG went live today for TiVo S3 and TiVo HD. I just transferred a program from my S2 to my S3... worked great.

Does TTG allow you to save an HD program and reload back to the same S3 at a later date still in HD?

Does S3->S3 MRV preserve HD?

Does HD S3 ->S2 MRV downrev or is it not available at all?

Unsure about the HD to PC but S3->S3 preserves HD. S3->S2 downrezes. Both boxes have to be at the same release, probably 9.2 by the time it's activated.

Does TTG allow you to save an HD program and reload back to the same S3 at a later date still in HD?

Does S3->S3 MRV preserve HD?

Does HD S3 ->S2 MRV downrev or is it not available at all?

TivoPony confirmed this on TCF today....

"And yes, TiVoToComeBack (transferring video from your PC to your TiVo DVR) is supported, although HD content must have been originally recorded on a TiVo DVR to 'come back' as HD. HD content from other sources may be converted to SD and transferred to the DVR using TiVo Desktop Plus. Supporting HD transfers from the PC of non-TiVo content is being investigated."


http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=371193&page=1&pp=30

If you are getting access denied w/TTG login to your acct on the website to make sure transfers are set to allowed if not change it under DVR settigns, it is set to not allowed by default if u have never used it before.

If you are getting access denied w/TTG login to your acct on the website to make sure transfers are set to allowed if not change it under DVR settigns, it is set to not allowed by default if u have never used it before.

I just checked my settings are all set to allow. I have a avi file in my TiVo folder but my settings still say TiVo to Go: i.,i.,i. Which means I don't have it.:confused: There is no computer on my "now playing list" for me to play this file.

Anyone tell me what's wrong?

Unsure about the HD to PC but S3->S3 preserves HD. S3->S2 downrezes. Both boxes have to be at the same release, probably 9.2 by the time it's activated.If true, then that's changed. When this was first announced, Poniatowski said that it would not be possible to transfer HD video files from S3 to S2. Downrezzing HD when imaging for output on SD analog connections is something that both S3 and THD can do; creating a downrezzed image and converting it back into MPEG is a substantial operation. The new Broadcom chipset that they're using on TiVo HD has the capability so it might be possible, but the TiVo S3 doesn't.

EDIT: I checked TiVoPony's post from this morning (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5624119&&#post5624119) and he's still saying the same thing:
Any combination works, with the caveats that HD content cannot be transfered to a Series2, and content the broadcaster has marked as copy protected cannot be transfered at all (as has always been the case with this feature).

My bad :o As you said, no transfer of HD from S3 to S2, even downrezed.

This goes out to all the people who said TiVo2Go would never happen on the S3.:p

What can I say? I'm on a roll.;)

This goes out to all the people who said TiVo2Go would never happen on the S3.:p

What can I say? I'm on a roll.;)

NICE!

I just checked my settings are all set to allow. I have a avi file in my TiVo folder but my settings still say TiVo to Go: i.,i.,i. Which means I don't have it.:confused: There is no computer on my "now playing list" for me to play this file.

Anyone tell me what's wrong?

Force a few connects on your tivo, fixed mine up. I got the custom TIVO name back and the Media Access Key also popped up.

Force a few connects on your tivo, fixed mine up. I got the custom TIVO name back and the Media Access Key also popped up.

Yeah, I got it to fix with a forced connection. I still can't get it to play my files I have on my computer though (.avi).

Yeah, I got it to fix with a forced connection. I still can't get it to play my files I have on my computer though (.avi).

Do you see your PC listed in the My Playing List?

Do you see your PC listed in the My Playing List?

It popped up after I downloaded a couple of shows from the S3. But my .avi file still doesn't show. I can play it fine on Windows Media Player.

What format AVI file do you have? Are you able to transfer an mpeg file to your Tivo from your pc? I tested this with an MPEG this morning at it now is on my Tivo's My Playing List (looks like it copies it to the TIVO hdd)

What format AVI file do you have? Are you able to transfer an mpeg file to your Tivo from your pc? I tested this with an MPEG this morning at it now is on my Tivo's My Playing List (looks like it copies it to the TIVO hdd)

the format is .avi. and that appears to be the problem. I just found out that .avi will not play with the free version of TiVo desktop. I have to get the desktop plus for that.

Wow - that sux how much is "Desktop Plus" maybe they should re-think there software side now the hardware is finally up to spec :)

I can't get TTG to work either. Earlier, I forced a few connects on the TiVo and got the Media Access Key (transfers were already enabled in my account). Now the "TiVoToGo" entry in my System Information display reads "a,a,a". I programmed TiVo Desktop with the MAK but couldn't get it to connect to the TiVo. Then I realized that I was running 2.3 so I downloaded and upgraded to 2.5 which now can't see my TiVo on the net.

Does your TIVO display your MAK? (sys info)

Wow - that sux how much is "Desktop Plus" maybe they should re-think there software side now the hardware is finally up to spec :)

There is something out there that you can use instead called Tivopy. I really don't have time to get into it today.

I seem to recall it's 39.95 but I could be wrong. That seems awful expensive to me.

Does your TIVO display your MAK? (sys info)Yes, my TiVo displays the MAK.

Does TTG allow you to save an HD program and reload back to the same S3 at a later date still in HD?I haven't tried it yet, but yes, TTG does allow that. (MRV, of course, does not.)

Does S3->S3 MRV preserve HD?Again, I haven't tried it yet, but word is that it does.

Does HD S3 ->S2 MRV downrev or is it not available at all?I'm sorry to contradict moxie, but according to TiVoPony, HD S3 -> S2 is not available at all. You can only do SD S3 -> S2.

I can't get TTG to work either. Earlier, I forced a few connects on the TiVo and got the Media Access Key (transfers were already enabled in my account). Now the "TiVoToGo" entry in my System Information display reads "a,a,a". I programmed TiVo Desktop with the MAK but couldn't get it to connect to the TiVo. Then I realized that I was running 2.3 so I downloaded and upgraded to 2.5 which now can't see my TiVo on the net.

FYI, you can also find your MAK on the TiVo Manage My Account web page (http://www.tivo.com/mma) after you log in, on the right hand side of the page.

You should be good to go, now that you've got your MAK and a,a,a. It's probably a TiVo Desktop problem. It may not have un-installed the previous version properly.

You can also verify that the networking is working properly by pointing your browser at the TiVo unit :

https://192.168.1.90/nowplaying/index.html
login:tivo
password : <yourMAK>

You should be presented by the contents of your Now Playing list, with lots of extra info like file size, recording date, recording quality, etc. You can also transfer a file from the TiVo to the PC by clicking on a particular entry's "download" link. That will exercise the TTG portion of the TiVo networking enabled in 9.2

eSATA is only one possible solution to your problem. Once TiVo enables TTG/TTCB/MRV, you'll be able to dump recordings to a PC for external storage as well. You'll be able to watch 'em there, or reload them back onto your TiVo when you want to watch 'em.
Paul -- Thanks. I am aware of MRV, etc. but the problem is that virtually everything I have recorded on my S3 that I want to keep is in HD, copy protected, and thus not transferable. It’s a bummer but there it is.

Anyway, I got 9.2 today and am looking into buying the Western Digital drive that TiVo has blessed. I think I may wait awhile, though, because the currently available drive is “only” 500 gig, and I would really like a 750 gig or 1 Tb drive. Surely some of those will receive the TiVo Seal of Approval in the not too distant future.

You can also verify that the networking is working properly by pointing your browser at the TiVo unit :

https://192.168.1.90/nowplaying/index.html
login:tivo
password : <yourMAK>

You should be presented by the contents of your Now Playing list, with lots of extra info like file size, recording date, recording quality, etc. You can also transfer a file from the TiVo to the PC by clicking on a particular entry's "download" link. That will exercise the TTG portion of the TiVo networking enabled in 9.2For me, the address was 192.168.1.100. I'm downloading an HD recording of Shark right now, using the "download" link but TiVo Desktop V2.5 still doesn't see any units on the network.

Paul -- Thanks. I am aware of MRV, etc. but the problem is that virtually everything I have recorded on my S3 that I want to keep is in HD, copy protected, and thus not transferable. It’s a bummer but there it is.

Anyway, I got 9.2 today and am looking into buying the Western Digital drive that TiVo has blessed. I think I may wait awhile, though, because the currently available drive is “only” 500 gig, and I would really like a 750 gig or 1 Tb drive. Surely some of those will receive the TiVo Seal of Approval in the not too distant future.

Not all hd is copy protected?

Paul -- Thanks. I am aware of MRV, etc. but the problem is that virtually everything I have recorded on my S3 that I want to keep is in HD, copy protected, and thus not transferable. It’s a bummer but there it is.

Anyway, I got 9.2 today and am looking into buying the Western Digital drive that TiVo has blessed. I think I may wait awhile, though, because the currently available drive is “only” 500 gig, and I would really like a 750 gig or 1 Tb drive. Surely some of those will receive the TiVo Seal of Approval in the not too distant future.

I read that everything you want to keep is HD, copy protected but what about other stuff? For example I have some shows I record like "The First 48" that I usually don't watch unless I'm getting low on recordings. I have moved those to the hard drive of my computer and deleted them from the S3.

It will help save some space, specially since I use "Best Quality".

Not all hd is copy protected?

Nope, all the network HD shows are fair game. You can copy those no problem.

One thing I saw did kind of fool me. I have a SP for "Curb Your Enthusiasim" on HBO, and since it isn't in HD anyway I record it on a non HD channel. I really wasn't that surprised but that show was copy protected. So it's not only HD shows that can have protection.

For me, the address was 192.168.1.100. I'm downloading an HD recording of Shark right now, using the "download" link but TiVo Desktop V2.5 still doesn't see any units on the network.

Did you reset the MAK when you upgraded to TDP? Have you tried turning off any firewalls, or adding a conditional access for TiVo Desktop in your firewall? IIRC, there's about 5 TDP executable programs that need to pass the FW.

Did you reset the MAK when you upgraded to TDP? Have you tried turning off any firewalls, or adding a conditional access for TiVo Desktop in your firewall? IIRC, there's about 5 TDP executable programs that need to pass the FW.

Quite some time ago I gave TiVo Desktop full access both coming and going on Zone Alarm so that wasn't an issue for me.

Changing topics, I looked at the Tivo 2.5 upgrade, the cost is 24.95. I probably will hold off on buying it though. The only time I would use it is if I somehow missed a show and had to go to Bit T***** to get it. Even then I would prefer to purchase it from Amazon Unbox but unfortunately not everything is available. ABC shows last time I looked are not available there.

If anyone is interested, here is the link (http://www3.tivo.com/mytivo/domore/tivotogo/windows.html) for the upgrade.

So it's not only HD shows that can have protection.Copy protection can even be expressed on the analog outputs of video equipment (Macrovision Colorstripe, AGC, CGMS-A, etc) and DMCA-compliant devices have to detect and obey that.

Tivo Desktop 2.5.1 I dont remember the .1 being there this morning.
http://www3.tivo.com/mytivo/domore/tivotogo/windows.html

Tivo Desktop 2.5.1 I dont remember the .1 being there this morning.
http://www3.tivo.com/mytivo/domore/tivotogo/windows.html

I have version 2.5.275381 to be exact.

For me, the address was 192.168.1.100. I'm downloading an HD recording of Shark right now, using the "download" link but TiVo Desktop V2.5 still doesn't see any units on the network.

See the TiVo Desktop 2.5 note about uninstalling previous versions before applying the new version : HERE (http://customersupport.tivo.com/LaunchContent.aspx?cid=38fc003c-5e79-4deb-b6ae-db236f53edd1)

Here are screenshots of the TivoToGo functionality:

http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/tivoweb.gif

http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/ttg_date.gif

Okay--I rebooted and restarted the TiVo Desktop UI and got 2 or 3 "such and such just tried to access the Internet--allow?" messages from Norton. Maybe one of these got answered improperly the last time, but now it works all works fine. To test it, I'm copying last week's episode of Heroes off the machine. I was able to progressively play it in WMP while it's downloading. Cool.

Here are screenshots of the TivoToGo functionality:How nice for you that your cable provider doesn't seem to be using any copy protection; I see that Californication can be transferred. My copy can't be.

How nice for you that your cable provider doesn't seem to be using any copy protection; I see that Californication can be transferred. My copy can't be.

Is this legit? I mean what the heck kind of a name for a show is that? I mean I know what kind of name it is, but is this for real?:eek:

Anyway it's not suppose to be the cable company decision on what gets copy protection and what doesn't. So either one company didn't use copy protect when they should have or the other used it when they shouldn't.

Now I'm going to do a search on this "Californication" so I can protect myself from this type of corruption.;)

Anyway it's not suppose to be the cable company decision on what gets copy protection and what doesn't. So either one company didn't use copy protect when they should have or the other used it when they shouldn't.FCC mandate permits cable companies to apply copy protection (CCI 0x02) -- preventing use of TTG and MRV -- on any channel outside of the limited basic tier. In most cases, this is an independent decision by the cable company, although it can also be done at the request of the content provider, some of whom now want some copy protection as part of the contract renewal for their channel(s).

Cable companies are not permitted to copy-protect local channels. If you are not able to use TTG (or MRV) with a recording from a local channel, you should contact your cable provider to have them correct the problem.

Is this legit? I mean what the heck kind of a name for a show is that? I mean I know what kind of name it is, but is this for real?:eek:Yes, Californication is the name of a half-hour weekly Showtime "dramedy" about a writer of fiction living in LA played by David Duchovny (who is, in real life, ABD on an English lit PhD from Yale). The character is very handy with the ladies and spends a lot of time in meaningless physical affairs while pining away for an ex girlfriend with whom he has a 13 y/o child. The ex is engaged to get married to a boring businessman.

Though the dialog is somewhat raw, it's brilliantly well written. I've been watching it all season and it's excellent.

(Californication is also the name of chart-topping Red Hot Chili Peppers album--and a popular track thereof--which was released in 1998, but it's the Showtime series to which I referred :). The album was equally outstanding).
Anyway it's not suppose to be the cable company decision on what gets copy protection and what doesn't. So either one company didn't use copy protect when they should have or the other used it when they shouldn't.The regulations which govern how these protection flags can be used are regulations of the cable industry, so in the end how they get applied is up to them. Some of them protect everything that they can indiscriminately, which can render TTG and MRV less useful than they otherwise might otherwise be. At least one person who was in a system where almost everything was being marked Copy One Generation reports on TCF (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5508193&&#post5508193) that he complained to his cable provider and local franchising authority and got action wherein the provider stopped setting things to Copy One Generation except where the content provider specifically requested it. Supposedly his provider (Comcast) made this the policy nationwide.

Not all hd is copy protected?
That's right, most of the network shows seem to be copyable, but most of the shows I am interested in saving seem not to be.

Not all hd is copy protected?Broadcast HD cannot legally be copy protected.

Just a general FYI...I forced another connect before I left this morning, and now I do have TTG functionality. I still don't have Rhapsody, though. I'll just sit tight for a bit and see if it shows up in the next day or two before checking further into it...

Randy

I can copy everything recorded from FIOS. Nothing is protected right now, not even from Premium channels.

I can copy everything recorded from FIOS. Nothing is protected right now, not even from Premium channels.

I'm sure you're happy about that but I don't know if I were you I probably wouldn't post it on the internet. Somebody may find out. Still, what's done is done and you're a lucky person.

Just a general FYI...I forced another connect before I left this morning, and now I do have TTG functionality. I still don't have Rhapsody, though. I'll just sit tight for a bit and see if it shows up in the next day or two before checking further into it...

Randy


FWIW, Rhapsody is the first item in the menu on Music, Games, More (you know where). Just in case you are overlooking it.

I'm sure you're happy about that but I don't know if I were you I probably wouldn't post it on the internet. Somebody may find out. Still, what's done is done and you're a lucky person.

If they don't know about it they will at some point. I 'd rather have the stuff protected that is supposed to be protected. I have no desire to circumvent any copy protection.

FWIW, Rhapsody is the first item in the menu on Music, Games, More (you know where). Just in case you are overlooking it.


Thanks. Mine leads off with the Yahoo trilogy...photos, traffic, and weather...I'm sure of the order between those three, off-hand. I have scrolled up and down to make sure it isn't there; and as of last night, anyway, no dice. I'll check again this evening...here's hoping! :)

Randy

Thanks. Mine leads off with the Yahoo trilogy...photos, traffic, and weather...I'm sure of the order between those three, off-hand. I have scrolled up and down to make sure it isn't there; and as of last night, anyway, no dice. I'll check again this evening...here's hoping! :)

Randy

I hate those damn Yahoo apps. I never use 'em, and they push the useful apps down. Has anyone figured out a way to stop 'em from popping up ? I know there's no configuration to do so on the S3, so it'd have to be some form of network-based solution. Perhaps an ACL or static route on my router ?

If they don't know about it they will at some point. I 'd rather have the stuff protected that is supposed to be protected. I have no desire to circumvent any copy protection.

How about, I have no desire to misuse or abuse for profit that which I have been given, Thank you God, You and me, right? ;)

I wouldnt say anyone is trying to 'circumvent' copy protection, everything is for your own households use anyway..and if FIOS didnt turn on the CP for certain programs or recordings - oh well, so be it.

I don't know how many times I have thanked God for TiVo.:)

heheh especially when everyone at work tells you, oh yeh the new series of XYZ just started did you see it last night.. and your tivo recorded it from when you set up the season pass 2 years ago.
LOVE IT

Just a little info to post here; with 9.2.j, I'm now able to transfer files back and forth between my S3 and my Mac G5. Using TiVoDecodeManager (TDM - free download) to send files (in MPEG-2 format) from the TiVo to the Mac. Using iSquint (free download; stripped-down version of Visual Hub) to convert them to MPEG-4 for iPod use (or just change the TDM download setting for MPEG-4 iPod but then the download takes a LOT longer) . For TTCB, I'm simply using TiVo Desktop. I've tested moving files both ways, and it works seamlessly.

Another quick update for those that might be seeing the same issues I had...as of this evening Rhapsody was right where it should be! And in limited playing around, it seemed to work perfectly....

Randy

Yes, also using PyTivo on windows I can stream XviD .avi files to my S3.

I hope I haven't missed a post that would answer this....

If I got the Tivo and paid the sub fee, for using OTA only, (until I break down and get cable :( ), could I:

W/o phone line or cable modem, use my Sprint wireless connection w/ my home computer if I added a wireless router or some device to allow internet access at times of my choosing to keep the Tivo happy?

Thanks
John

Yes, also using PyTivo on windows I can stream XviD .avi files to my S3.

I'm using tivo.net here with my S3. I also tried pyTiVo, but ended up going back to tivo.net because I found it far easier to configure/use.

If I got the Tivo and paid the sub fee, for using OTA only, (until I break down and get cable :( ), could I:

W/o phone line or cable modem, use my Sprint wireless connection w/ my home computer if I added a wireless router or some device to allow internet access at times of my choosing to keep the Tivo happy?


If you could string your TiVo via ethernet to use the Sprint wireless connection, I can't see why that wouldn't work. Some of the larger downloads might take a while over the wireless, but it should work just fine.

I'm using tivo.net here with my S3. I also tried pyTiVo, but ended up going back to tivo.net because I found it far easier to configure/use.

Can tivo.net handle transport stream files?

Hey this may be an exciting development. I just tried using PyTivo to transfer a 720p .mkv file on my computer to my S3... and it seems to work. It hasn't finished streaming the whole thing yet, but so far it looks really good. I tweaked the PyTivo config to use 1280x720 width/height, set the format to 16:9, and set the data rate at 5mb/s (5Mi). Above 5 mb/s the S3 seems to have problems and starts skipping and messing up the video during tough scenes.

Another quick update for those that might be seeing the same issues I had...as of this evening Rhapsody was right where it should be! And in limited playing around, it seemed to work perfectly....

Randy

Glad that worked out for you. I couldn't understand what the problem was.

Can tivo.net handle transport stream files?

Not sure. Never tried it. It's based on ffmpeg, so it handles quite a few formats, just not sure about that particular one.

Hey this may be an exciting development. I just tried using PyTivo to transfer a 720p .mkv file on my computer to my S3... and it seems to work. It hasn't finished streaming the whole thing yet, but so far it looks really good. I tweaked the PyTivo config to use 1280x720 width/height, set the format to 16:9, and set the data rate at 5mb/s (5Mi). Above 5 mb/s the S3 seems to have problems and starts skipping and messing up the video during tough scenes.

Nice. This seems to mirror what JustinThyme discovered when TiVo accidentally left his flags at "a,a,a" earlier this year. He had pretty good success feeding various resolutions of MPEG-2 to his S3. No such luck with MPEG-4, though, as he was completely unable to get that working.

Just a little info to post here; with 9.2.j, I'm now able to transfer files back and forth between my S3 and my Mac G5. Using TiVoDecodeManager (TDM - free download) to send files (in MPEG-2 format) from the TiVo to the Mac. Using iSquint (free download; stripped-down version of Visual Hub) to convert them to MPEG-4 for iPod use (or just change the TDM download setting for MPEG-4 iPod but then the download takes a LOT longer) . For TTCB, I'm simply using TiVo Desktop. I've tested moving files both ways, and it works seamlessly.
I use TiVoDecodeManager, too, with my 17 inch PowerBook G4. It works well. I only watch the files I download on my computer and use an app for OS X called VLC for that. It works well, too. I continue to be frustrated by how many non-network programs are copy protected, even a lot of SD stuff, but, other than that, I’m satisfied.

Rhapsody continues to work adequately, too, although it still has more than its fair share of bugs.

anybody have success moving files from PC back to S3 after DL them with TTG. I can see the files on the PC but when I try to trans back they always fail immediately. I thought mayb i needed ttg plus for droped the 25 but still same problem.

anybody have success moving files from PC back to S3 after DL them with TTG. I can see the files on the PC but when I try to trans back they always fail immediately. I thought mayb i needed ttg plus for droped the 25 but still same problem.

When you copy a program from TiVo you should have a "Now Playing" list in your computer showing what you copied and you should have a diagram of your computer with your computers name on TiVo. Do you not see your computer on the "Now Playing List" on TiVo?

Okay, so now that mrv is working (thank you tivo!!)...I haven't seen anyone else mention this, so I thought I'd ask...I see that they say you can use roxio creator 9 to put tivo shows on dvd. This raises a couple of questions:

1. will they be in hd? can I play them back in my hd-dvd player, for example, even if it's on a regular dvd? how about on a blank hd-dvd? (I don't even know if we can get those yet, haven't tried.)

2. do we really have to use roxio? I have nero. Is there a program out there I can use to convert the .tivo file to another standard format that nero could read, perhaps? Or, does roxio even work with hd programs at all?

I apologize profusely if this has been gone over before (do we have an faq to check? I missed it if we do, is there a link? but I figured this info would be too new to be in an faq, anyway)...

hook, yes I see it and I select a HD file to trans back from the PC to the tivo in the now playing menu it immediately fails, if i clonvert a file to mp4 or another format it will trans back just not the original HD tivo files.

anybody have success moving files from PC back to S3 after DL them with TTG. I can see the files on the PC but when I try to trans back they always fail immediately. I thought mayb i needed ttg plus for droped the 25 but still same problem.

Yup. Before I had my eSATA hooked up, my drive was getting a bit full, so I dumped the first few episodes of Journeyman to my PC via the S3's web interface version of TTG. Once my eSATA was hooked up, I fired up TiVo Desktop 2.5.1 and dumped 'em back to the S3 without any problems at all.

TiVo Desktop Plus is only for transcoding files that are not in the .tivo format.

Sounds like a networking problem to me.

Okay, so now that mrv is working (thank you tivo!!)...I haven't seen anyone else mention this, so I thought I'd ask...I see that they say you can use roxio creator 9 to put tivo shows on dvd. This raises a couple of questions:

1. will they be in hd? can I play them back in my hd-dvd player, for example, even if it's on a regular dvd? how about on a blank hd-dvd? (I don't even know if we can get those yet, haven't tried.)

2. do we really have to use roxio? I have nero. Is there a program out there I can use to convert the .tivo file to another standard format that nero could read, perhaps? Or, does roxio even work with hd programs at all?

I apologize profusely if this has been gone over before (do we have an faq to check? I missed it if we do, is there a link? but I figured this info would be too new to be in an faq, anyway)...

lol, I tried to find out the same thing the other day, sort of and got no response. So I tried it anyway but I didn't use Nero I tried it with Cucosoft which takes .avi files, converts them to dvd and burns them to the DVD.

At first it looked like it was going to work but then I got a message saying "the file was too large, try a slower setting." Well, I tried all the lower settings (about 8) and still got the same message. I did read somewhere else that TiVo encodes these files so that may be why, however I do know with the premium version of TiVo Desktop you can move them to an iPod so I conclude that it cannot be done.

Anyway, Nero has never worked well for me for that, it always screws up the sound track.

ah...well at least you tried, thanks...I will say that I use nero to put my replay shows on dvd, and that works quite well.

My guess is we'd need some program to convert the .tivo file to another format, first?

On a similar note, what does mrv do with a show that's being recorded? I would guess that you can't transfer it until it's done recording, but does it even show up on the pc or on the other hd tivo? I know, I can check later, I was just wondering if anyone knows this offhand...

On a similar note, what does mrv do with a show that's being recorded? I would guess that you can't transfer it until it's done recording, but does it even show up on the pc or on the other hd tivo? I know, I can check later, I was just wondering if anyone knows this offhand...I don't have a second TiVo to try MRV with, but from what I can tell it's just TiVo-To-TiVo TTG. I just tried it and TiVo Desktop shows currently recording shows on it's Pick Recordings To Transfer dialog with "Still recording" in the status column and the check-mark grayed out (i.e., you can't pick it). Looking at https://<tivoipaddr>/nowplaying/ in a browser, you see the new recording but it says "Recording" in the Links column.

You might want to check out the "TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=35)" forum at TiVo Community Forums.

I hope this doesn't change right after I post this but....

I received the 9.2.J1 update over night and...gasp...the pixelation issue seems to be resolved:

at least I have not seen it so far : normally I would have seen it after a few minutes of watching: it has been OK for over a couple hours (keeping fingers crossed)

note I was able to resolve most of the pixelation problems earlier by adding an attenuator to the cable feed: it helped quite a bit but not completely: the firmware update seems to have resolved the issue completely

Rhapsody also works for me :)

I hope this doesn't change right after I post this but....

I received the 9.2.J1 update over night and...gasp...the pixelation issue seems to be resolved:





For those who have had pixelation issues, that seems to be the general consensus. It sure is strange that only a few (in comparison) had this problem and so many didn't. It also specifically fixed issues with S/A cards though I'm not sure what those issues were. I had a problem with one channel losing sound and since 9.2 that has not been an issue. I have S/A cards.

I think one of the reasons why there was some confusion about whether 9.2 fixed the pixelization problems is because there were actually some network pixelization problems this week.

I think one of the reasons why there was some confusion about whether 9.2 fixed the pixelization problems is because there were actually some network pixelization problems this week.

Yes, and I think that it happens a heck of a lot more then most people think. I was watching the Red Sox at about 10 p.m. last night and the screen was actually flashing black from time to time. This wasn't on the S3 this was off my HD STB in my bedroom.

anybody have success moving files from PC back to S3 after DL them with TTG. I can see the files on the PC but when I try to trans back they always fail immediately. I thought mayb i needed ttg plus for droped the 25 but still same problem.Yeah, I was able to do that with an ep of Mad Men yesterday. Transferred it from the S3 to the computer and then back to the S3. Didn't need anything but TiVo Decode Manager and TiVo Desktop (I'm on a Mac).

Thanks to all for input. It appears to have been a network connectivity issue and is now working great.

I hope this doesn't change right after I post this but....

I received the 9.2.J1 update over night and...gasp...the pixelation issue seems to be resolved:

at least I have not seen it so far : normally I would have seen it after a few minutes of watching: it has been OK for over a couple hours (keeping fingers crossed)

note I was able to resolve most of the pixelation problems earlier by adding an attenuator to the cable feed: it helped quite a bit but not completely: the firmware update seems to have resolved the issue completely

Rhapsody also works for me :)


all is still good

much to my delight the firmware also fixed a SA card issue specific to Comcast in some areas: YES ch 212 never worked (got audio but no video)

Comcast and Tivo blamed each other for the YES issue for several months: Tivo finally stepped up and made the fix

all is still good

much to my delight the firmware also fixed a SA card issue specific to Comcast in some areas: YES ch 212 never worked (got audio but no video)

Comcast and Tivo blamed each other for the YES issue for several months: Tivo finally stepped up and made the fix
Come to think of it, I seem to have seen less pixelizing since I got 9.2J earlier this week. I, too, am keeping my fingers crossed that my good luck was neither an aberration nor wishful thinking.

Yesterday Ron posted a question asking if it was possible to convert .tivo files to DVD. I shared my experience with him and told him I didn't think you could.

It appears I was wrong and you can indeed do this. It looks a bit expensive to me, but if you are interested here is your link (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=371324).

Has anyone tried a "Non-blessed" esata drive with 9.2?

Is it allowed?

I would prefer more storage than the 500GB Tivo is offering and actually found a good deal at CC on a 750 for the same price.

I'm going to try the hook up tonight.

Has anyone tried a "Non-blessed" esata drive with 9.2?

Is it allowed?

I would prefer more storage than the 500GB Tivo is offering and actually found a good deal at CC on a 750 for the same price.

I'm going to try the hook up tonight.

S3 or THD? S3 will accept any eSATA and configure it with plug and play. THD will NOT. THD will only work plug and play with the WD My DVR Extender. You can still use WinMFS to marry the internal and external drive if you use something other than the WD My DVR Expander.

Has anyone tried a "Non-blessed" esata drive with 9.2?

Is it allowed?

I would prefer more storage than the 500GB Tivo is offering and actually found a good deal at CC on a 750 for the same price.

I'm going to try the hook up tonight.

The Series3 allows you to connect any eSATA drive you wish, but it's officially "not supported" by TiVo. So, if something screws up, they can't help you.

The TiVoHD allows you to connect "officially sanctioned" drives only. At the moment, the only drive that qualifies is the WD 500GB drive that's going for $199. No other eSATA drives will be recognized by the TiVoHD.

Personally, I have an Antec MX-1 enclosure housing a 500GB drive hooked up to my Series3. It works just fine.

Yesterday Ron posted a question asking if it was possible to convert .tivo files to DVD. I shared my experience with him and told him I didn't think you could.

It appears I was wrong and you can indeed do this. It looks a bit expensive to me, but if you are interested here is your link (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=371324).

Thanks, I'll look into it!

On a only slightly related note...I transferred a program to tivo desktop from my s3...it appears successful, but it won't play! It brings up windows media player (11, I believe) and says "acquiring codec" and then "codec acquired", but then the screen/window just stays black! The pause button stays on, if I click on it, it switches to the "play" triangle, but nothing happens. I tried rebooting, and I tried leaving it there for a long time to see if it did anything, but no.

Am I missing something?

Has anyone tried a "Non-blessed" esata drive with 9.2?

Is it allowed?It is permitted on the Series3, but not the TivoHD.

Before you buy any eSATA drive (other than the 500Gb Western Digital My DVR Expander), you should probably read following post:

Official eSATA Drive Expansion in 9.2: FAQ + Discussion (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5616160&&#post5616160)

On a only slightly related note...I transferred a program to tivo desktop from my s3...it appears successful, but it won't play! It brings up windows media player (11, I believe) and says "acquiring codec" and then "codec acquired", but then the screen/window just stays black! The pause button stays on, if I click on it, it switches to the "play" triangle, but nothing happens. I tried rebooting, and I tried leaving it there for a long time to see if it did anything, but no.

Am I missing something?You need the right codec installed on your system. I've had success with this codec pack:

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/KLite_Mega_Codec_Pack/1080441198/1

During the first part of the install, choose the Profile 1: Default, and also select the Cyberlink decoder under MPEG-2 and the Microsoft decoder under MPEG-1. During the second part of the install, choose Windows Media Player as your default player. You'll need to reboot for the changes to take effect.

I would also recommend the TTG/MRV/TTCB FAQ below at TCF:

TivoHD & Series3 MRV/TTG/TTCB: FAQ + Discussion (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=371710)

The Series3 allows you to connect any eSATA drive you wish, but it's officially "not supported" by TiVo. So, if something screws up, they can't help you.



As big of a TiVo fanboy that I am there is just something about this "supported" vs "nonsupported" that I just don't buy.

I think this move was made just so TiVo could make money by recommending certain eSATA's and they've made a deal with these companies. I just wonder how much actual support anyone will really get.

Time will tell I suppose.

As big of a TiVo fanboy that I am there is just something about this "supported" vs "nonsupported" that I just don't buy.

I think this move was made just so TiVo could make money by recommending certain eSATA's and they've made a deal with these companies. I just wonder how much actual support anyone will really get.

Time will tell I suppose.


TiVo has always had "unsupported" features. Up until now, those features were alpha- or beta-level software/hardware components of their own design. This one is different in that it involves an external piece of gear that could potentially corrupt all of your recordings. The source of the unsupported feature is not under their control, and the risks involved are quite a bit higher than the usual "unsupported" feature (previous incarnations of ethernet networking support in the S2, for example).

I agree with Paul--I wouldn't want to support arbitrary pieces of external equipment hooked up to the thing. I have personally lost about 40 recordings when the drive that I was using failed. The experience did not enhance my level of customer satisfaction, but, since it was unsupported, I had no one to blame.

Though justifiable, keeping people from using anything than equipment from a partner-business' is undoubtably profitable for that business. They need to quickly qualify some other drives (for one thing, 500GB isn't big enough to satisfy everyone).

It is permitted on the Series3, but not the TivoHD.

Before you buy any eSATA drive (other than the 500Gb Western Digital My DVR Expander), you should probably read following post:

Official eSATA Drive Expansion in 9.2: FAQ + Discussion (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5616160&&#post5616160)

You need the right codec installed on your system. I've had success with this codec pack:

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/KLite_Mega_Codec_Pack/1080441198/1

During the first part of the install, choose the Profile 1: Default, and also select the Cyberlink decoder under MPEG-2 and the Microsoft decoder under MPEG-1. During the second part of the install, choose Windows Media Player as your default player. You'll need to reboot for the changes to take effect.

I would also recommend the TTG/MRV/TTCB FAQ below at TCF:

TivoHD & Series3 MRV/TTG/TTCB: FAQ + Discussion (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=371710)


Thanks for all the advice Tivo fans. All the posts were very helpfull! :D

I want to point something out about this thread. While occasionally there are some arguments for whatever reason none of us get to the point of out and outright hostility that I have seen over at the TCF. Point in case is myself and Bicker1. When we were in the TiVo forum I really had a major problem with him but over here we actually have a decent relationship. Yeah I know there may be some people who don't like me or may have me on their ignore list but I don't have anyone in this thread on my ignore list. And whatever is going on that they find out first in TCF we find out here quite quickly without all the b*tching and complaining.

And yes, I am aware of a couple of people who may not like each other but as I said it's kept to an adult level and the responses from everyone are meant to be helpful.

We got a pretty decent bunch here.:)

I want to point something out about this thread. While occasionally there are some arguments for whatever reason none of us get to the point of out and outright hostility that I have seen over at the TCF.It's true. Over there, anyone who doesn't peddle the perspective of prevailing posters is treated much worse than opposing views are treated here. And I think it is getting much worse there, rather quickly.

I think the PTBs at AV Science Forum might look at this as an opportunity to establish a closer relationship with folks at TiVo, who may be now inclined to provide a quasi-official online presence here.

I want to point something out about this thread. While occasionally there are some arguments for whatever reason none of us get to the point of out and outright hostility that I have seen over at the TCF....Who are you calling hostile!?!?!?!



:D

Who are you calling hostile!?!?!?!



:D

Look dude. I never gave anybody anything they didn't deserve over there. I'm just saying it's a bit more peacefull around here.

However GoHokies! may be joining us before you know it, that might light a fire around here a bit.:D

I just noticed that my recording of ER this week was interrupted by an EAS, and sure enough, the recording is complete (with the exception of the 30 second channel change to CSPAN2).

Thanks, Tivo, for fixing an obvious oversight in the previous version. :)

I am trying to transfer a show to my computer using TTG, but it only transfers a few seconds of the show and then says its complete. Any one know what is going on?

I am trying to transfer a show to my computer using TTG, but it only transfers a few seconds of the show and then says its complete. Any one know what is going on?


Perhaps the show is a 'partial'. Can you watch it 'all' on the Tivo?

Perhaps the show is a 'partial'. Can you watch it 'all' on the Tivo?
It is not a partial recording. I can (and have) watched all of it on my TiVo.

It is not a partial recording. I can (and have) watched all of it on my TiVo.

Is it just that show? Can you completely transfer another recording?

Is it just that show? Can you completely transfer another recording?
I was just checking that. It seems to be transferring an SD show just fine. The first one I tried (that didn't work) was in HD.

I'm using a Mac with TiVoDecodeManager, and also having problems with HD shows. They transfer fine, but when playing back the audio and video are way out of sync. I'm transferring as MPEG-2, then using iSquint to make them iPod compatible. But, even before I use that, they're out of sync using iTunes or VLC. All my SD transfers have been fine.

I am trying to transfer a show to my computer using TTG, but it only transfers a few seconds of the show and then says its complete. Any one know what is going on?Do you have 9.1 or 9.2?

The 9.1 release had trouble transferring some of my shows, but 9.2 fixed that.

If you have not yet received 9.2, be sure to sign up for it at http://www.tivo.com/priority/. Signing up gets you the 9.2 software in 2-3 days instead of 2-3 weeks.

I'm using a Mac with TiVoDecodeManager, and also having problems with HD shows. They transfer fine, but when playing back the audio and video are way out of sync. I'm transferring as MPEG-2, then using iSquint to make them iPod compatible. But, even before I use that, they're out of sync using iTunes or VLC. All my SD transfers have been fine.If they aren't out of sync on the Tivo, but are out of sync on your computer, that is a computer issue.

Broadcasters and cable companies employ all sorts of tricks now to improve efficiency (increase compression). Some of those don't play nice with all the codecs and viewers out there.

It's also possible there are signal errors in the bitstream (due to poor quality cable or OTA signal) that the Tivo can handle but your computer can't.

Does this affect all HD recordings or just recordings from one particular channel?

Do you have 9.1 or 9.2?

The 9.1 release had trouble transferring some of my shows, but 9.2 fixed that.

If you have not yet received 9.2, be sure to sign up for it at http://www.tivo.com/priority/. Signing up gets you the 9.2 software in 2-3 days instead of 2-3 weeks.
I have 9.2

If they aren't out of sync on the Tivo, but are out of sync on your computer, that is a computer issue.

Broadcasters and cable companies employ all sorts of tricks now to improve efficiency (increase compression). Some of those don't play nice with all the codecs and viewers out there.

It's also possible there are signal errors in the bitstream (due to poor quality cable or OTA signal) that the Tivo can handle but your computer can't.

Does this affect all HD recordings or just recordings from one particular channel?I'll have to check others....so far NBC is all that I've tried.

Back on October 17th someone was kind enough to point out how I could link my Tivo Series 3 with the site zap2it.com and then just schedule my recordings while at the computer. Although I was a bit reluctant to do this at first, it is convenient and I find the zap2it guide to be faster and easier to navigate than the Tivo on screen guide.
There is one flaw. I like to choose the option to "save until I delete" and this option is possible while on the zap2it site however it does not ever take and my shows are recorded to be deleted when space is needed.
Does anyone know how to control this feature or if not is there a way to let Tivo know about it short of calling on the phone. I looked around their site and could not find a way to simply send them a email and I guess it it just not important enough to have to call. I am afraid it would be hard to explain the problem to the typical customer service representative anyway. (Maybe I had Directv too long)

I am trying to transfer a show to my computer using TTG, but it only transfers a few seconds of the show and then says its complete. Any one know what is going on?A couple of us have noted that problem, specifically with some PBS HD programs. Can you confirm which shows you're talking about? For us, it was The War and Travels to the Edge. It transfers about 2MB (for me) and then stops, saying it is done (when clearly it is not).

We'll probably need to connect-up, once there are a few more of us, and call this into TiVo on the same day.

For those wondering, I have 9.2J.

I'm using a Mac with TiVoDecodeManager, and also having problems with HD shows. They transfer fine, but when playing back the audio and video are way out of sync. I'm transferring as MPEG-2, then using iSquint to make them iPod compatible. But, even before I use that, they're out of sync using iTunes or VLC. All my SD transfers have been fine.I've been reading about this on some other forums. It seems to me to be an NBC issue. I've seen folks report the problem with both recorded and live programs, and with the TiVo, cable DVR, satellite DVR and without DVR.

... is there a way to let Tivo know about it short of calling on the phone. I looked around their site and could not find a way to simply send them a email and I guess it it just not important enough to have to call.TiVo does not accept bug reports via email. Telephone is the only option. Sorry.

I've been reading about this on some other forums. It seems to me to be an NBC issue. I've seen folks report the problem with both recorded and live programs, and with the TiVo, cable DVR, satellite DVR and without DVR.I think you may be on to something...tried a CBS HD program and it was fine....maybe it's an NBC problem?

Back on October 17th someone was kind enough to point out how I could link my Tivo Series 3 with the site zap2it.com and then just schedule my recordings while at the computer. Although I was a bit reluctant to do this at first, it is convenient and I find the zap2it guide to be faster and easier to navigate than the Tivo on screen guide.
There is one flaw. I like to choose the option to "save until I delete" and this option is possible while on the zap2it site however it does not ever take and my shows are recorded to be deleted when space is needed.
Does anyone know how to control this feature or if not is there a way to let Tivo know about it short of calling on the phone. I looked around their site and could not find a way to simply send them a email and I guess it it just not important enough to have to call. I am afraid it would be hard to explain the problem to the typical customer service representative anyway. (Maybe I had Directv too long)

I wanted to try it myself before I responded. You are correct, there is a flaw in the way zap2it.com delivers the information. I too told it to record until I delete and it returned with "until space needed."

It's hard to say who's problem this is. You can contact zap2it.com by email, there is a feedback button on the bottom of the listings page.

Do you have the same problem using TiVo's page? If you don't then I would suggest it's a zap2it.com problem.

Give that a try and let us know how it goes.

I scheduled a recording on the Tivo site as suggested. The option to "keep until I delete" did work so it is obviously a problem with zap2it. I sent zap2it an email explaining the problem and my experiment.
I really do not like the Tivo on-line schedule as I see no option to view favorite channels only and with all of the analog and Spanish channels my favorites do not even fit on one page.
If anyone else is bothered by this admittedly minor flaw and would like to also contact zap2it possibly multiple contacts would get more attention.

I scheduled a recording on the Tivo site as suggested. The option to "keep until I delete" did work so it is obviously a problem with zap2it. I sent zap2it an email explaining the problem and my experiment.
I really do not like the Tivo on-line schedule as I see no option to view favorite channels only and with all of the analog and Spanish channels my favorites do not even fit on one page.
If anyone else is bothered by this admittedly minor flaw and would like to also contact zap2it possibly multiple contacts would get more attention.

Glad you followed up, I could have checked that myself but I figured hey, why should I do all the work.:)

I'll drop zap2it.com an email as well.

I've been reading about this on some other forums. It seems to me to be an NBC issue. I've seen folks report the problem with both recorded and live programs, and with the TiVo, cable DVR, satellite DVR and without DVR.Definitely an NBC issue. CBS HD shows play fine; NBC HD shows have the sync problem. Finished testing it this morning.

Definitely an NBC issue. CBS HD shows play fine; NBC HD shows have the sync problem. Finished testing it this morning.

I just want to clarify here....this is a Mac thing, correct?

A couple of us have noted that problem, specifically with some PBS HD programs. Can you confirm which shows you're talking about? For us, it was The War and Travels to the Edge. It transfers about 2MB (for me) and then stops, saying it is done (when clearly it is not).

We'll probably need to connect-up, once there are a few more of us, and call this into TiVo on the same day.

For those wondering, I have 9.2J.

I was trying to transfer Jeopardy!.

I just want to clarify here....this is a Mac thing, correct?I don't have a Mac.

Does anyone have the dimensions for the Series 3 Tivo??? I can't find it on their website and CS doesn't answer. I'm having custom cabinet built and need info to provide space.

I just want to clarify here....this is a Mac thing, correct?I don't think it could be a Mac-only problem, Hook, since it happens only on NBC HD shows and not other network HD shows. If it was a Mac problem, wouldn't it happen with all HD shows?Does anyone have the dimensions for the Series 3 Tivo??? I can't find it on their website and CS doesn't answer. I'm having custom cabinet built and need info to provide space.13" deep, 16-3/4" wide, 3-1/2" high.

13" deep, 16-3/4" wide, 3-1/2" high.

Be sure to leave plenty of space for it to get cool air. Do not build an enclosed cabinet.

Define "enclosed". Seems too broad and perhaps overly cautious, depending upon your definition.

With 2"-3" of open space all around, and the rear of the cabinet exposed, the Tivo should be fine. If this were an amplifier or receiver, which generate a great deal of heat, then "plenty", which I interpret to be several inches or more all around, would be preferable. But the Tivo doesn't need that kind of space.

Though, I guess if you live in a sauna state (Florida, etc.), probably adding a few more inches all around would be ideal. More space is always better than less, if you can do it. I just wouldn't worry too much if you can't provide THAT much more extra breathing room.

Define "enclosed". Seems too broad and perhaps overly cautious, depending upon your definition.

With 2"-3" of open space all around, and the rear of the cabinet exposed, the Tivo should be fine. If this were an amplifier or receiver, which generate a great deal of heat, then "plenty", which I interpret to be several inches all around, would be preferable. But the Tivo doesn't need that kind of space.

Though, I guess if you live in a sauna state (Florida, etc.), probably adding a few more inches all around would be ideal. More space is always better than less, if you can do it. I just wouldn't worry too much if you can't provide THAT much more extra breathing room.

Enclosed to me means that there are no openings, side back or front. I don't think it is a good idea to have the back or the front covered. My opinion having had "enclosed" cabinets before.

And if you live in Florida they have this thing called "air conditioning." Works well, I even have it in my home in N.E. Ohio where it can "swelter" a bit in the summer as well.:)

.. aah, but if you are at work all day and nobody is home during the day or at least in & out a lot, you leave the air conditioning off quite often. Unless you are made of money. ;)

Leaving the A/C off is not a good idea, I bump mine to about 28 during the day and 22 at night. TIVO doesnt seem to mind :)

I have searched the forum regarding Comcast Miami and their charges. I am wrestling with them now. They have adjusted many duplicate charges, but others they refuse.

I have Digital Classic and a new Tivi HD. I was told that HD would cost $6.95/month addl, and the 1st cable card was free and the second was $1.95 when I ordered.

In cleaning up the billing, they insist the valid charges are $6.95 for HD times two (2 cable cards) and they are charging me $6.99 for the second cable card.

I have discussed with two reps and am ready to go to a supervisor, but wanted to know from other's experiences if this is worth the fight.

Thanks for all the great advice offered in this forum.

I have searched the forum regarding Comcast Miami and their charges. I am wrestling with them now. They have adjusted many duplicate charges, but others they refuse.

I have Digital Classic and a new Tivi HD. I was told that HD would cost $6.95/month addl, and the 1st cable card was free and the second was $1.95 when I ordered.

In cleaning up the billing, they insist the valid charges are $6.95 for HD times two (2 cable cards) and they are charging me $6.99 for the second cable card.

I have discussed with two reps and am ready to go to a supervisor, but wanted to know from other's experiences if this is worth the fight.

Thanks for all the great advice offered in this forum.You might want to post in the Miami, FL- HDTV (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=43823) thread in the Local HDTV Info and Reception (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=45) forum.

I have searched the forum regarding Comcast Miami and their charges. I am wrestling with them now. They have adjusted many duplicate charges, but others they refuse.

I have Digital Classic and a new Tivi HD. I was told that HD would cost $6.95/month addl, and the 1st cable card was free and the second was $1.95 when I ordered.

In cleaning up the billing, they insist the valid charges are $6.95 for HD times two (2 cable cards) and they are charging me $6.99 for the second cable card.

I have discussed with two reps and am ready to go to a supervisor, but wanted to know from other's experiences if this is worth the fight.

Thanks for all the great advice offered in this forum.

Welcome aboard, RadMac! Some folks can probably chime in here, but you might want to post this in this forum http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=43823&highlight=Miami&page=87 as well. Comcast has varying price structures across the country and it is possible people from the Miami area might have the most relevant info.

Hope that helps...

Randy

Edit: Looks like michaeltscott beat me to the punch...DOH!

.. aah, but if you are at work all day and nobody is home during the day or at least in & out a lot, you leave the air conditioning off quite often. Unless you are made of money. ;)

Wrong, my friend. First I work out of my house. Second I don't know if you ever noticed the signature on my post but I have 10 parrots. Now you would say "arn't parrots tropical birds?" which is true but we don't have rivers and streams for them to cool off in. So the air is on as soon as it gets over 75, that's my comfort level.:)

Thanks for the advice on the Miami thread. Much appreciate it.

Wrong, my friend. First I work out of my house. Second I don't know if you ever noticed the signature on my post but I have 10 parrots. Now you would say "arn't parrots tropical birds?" which is true but we don't have rivers and streams for them to cool off in. So the air is on as soon as it gets over 75, that's my comfort level.:)


Only someone with a massive ego such as yourself would generalize their own circumstance as being representative of the norm. :p

just kidding. I hadn't even realized that your signature now included the bit about birds. I'm salivating at the future possible put-downs I can unleash upon you whenever we disagree, i.e., "hookbill, singing your loony tunes again?" or "hey hookbill, now you've gone and flown over the cuckoo's nest", etc. The possibilities are endless.

Only someone with a massive ego such as yourself would generalize their own circumstance as being representative of the norm. :p



Being normal is boring.:p

birds of a feather flock together. whatever that means. "same" being the unspoken word in there I presume.






sorry, slow day on the Tivo thread. :o

I have searched the forum regarding Comcast Miami and their charges. I am wrestling with them now. They have adjusted many duplicate charges, but others they refuse.

I have Digital Classic and a new Tivi HD. I was told that HD would cost $6.95/month addl, and the 1st cable card was free and the second was $1.95 when I ordered.

In cleaning up the billing, they insist the valid charges are $6.95 for HD times two (2 cable cards) and they are charging me $6.99 for the second cable card.

I have discussed with two reps and am ready to go to a supervisor, but wanted to know from other's experiences if this is worth the fight.

Thanks for all the great advice offered in this forum.

I suffered through a similar problem with Comcast here in Indianapolis. I was told when I ordered my two cablecards that the first one is free and the second one was $1.50 per month. The next four months bills came with an additional outlet fee of $6.95 (instead of the $1.50). I called every month and had to battle them to change it.

Turns out, Comcast has an auditing department that checks the bills for correctness. The auditing department saw two cablecards on my account, no additional outlet fee, and "fixed" it. They didn't know I had a TiVo account.

Finally, I spoke with someone that completely re-coded my account in such a way that the auditing department wouldn't change it.

Cablecard #2 repeatedly loses it ability to decode my Encore and HBO channels. It will go out, I call Comcast, they schedule a visit, come out, and re-hit the card. Everything works after that... for about a week. Then, boom, repeat the cycle. This is driving me insane. There is nothing more frustrating than sitting down to watch "Curb Your Enthusiasm" only to be greeted by a gray screen instead of Larry David's bald head.

During the last Comcast visit, I had them swap out the card and then today the channels went out again.

:mad:

Cablecard #2 repeatedly loses it ability to decode my Encore and HBO channels. It will go out, I call Comcast, they schedule a visit, come out, and re-hit the card. Everything works after that... for about a week. Then, boom, repeat the cycle. This is driving me insane. There is nothing more frustrating than sitting down to watch "Curb Your Enthusiasm" only to be greeted by a gray screen instead of Larry David's bald head.

During the last Comcast visit, I had them swap out the card and then today the channels went out again.

:mad:

Nickff, are they looking at the diagnostic screen or just hitting the cards? The next time you see it go grey go look at the diagnostic screen (Settings/System Information/Diagnostics) take a look at the video pids and pcr pids. They should be the same. If they are, try changing the channel to any non hd but digitally encrypted channel. Then change it back to HBO.
Do you see a picture? That may be something you want to do to both cards to insure it will pick up.

Now if the pids arn't the same then head end has to get involved and fix it.

One other thought: there are only like a zillion HBO channels to watch Curb on and since it isn't in HD anyway, set a SP up on another channel that you know will work.:)

Nickff,

If your Tivo is still on the 9.1 software, be sure to request the 9.2 software @ http://www.tivo.com/priority/. It fixed a number of issues with 9.1, and many found it to eliminate the loss of a digital tuners (requiring a reboot in 9.1).

OK--it is obvious that I am a total noob at FP's and my HDTV RP has a tuner built in whereas FP's do not -- thus my ignorance.

My HT should be finished about Christmas and I plan to place a FP in it and am wondering IF a TIVO (yes, I am probably the last person in the US to purchase one) can be used as an HDTV tuner to record local OTA HD broadcasts as well as just to allow a passthrough of the HD signal to the FP via HDMI?

Please have mercy on this lowly question oh TIVO gurus:D

Mike

My HT should be finished about Christmas and I plan to place a FP in it and am wondering IF a TIVO (yes, I am probably the last person in the US to purchase one) can be used as an HDTV tuner to record local OTA HD broadcasts as well as just to allow a passthrough of the HD signal to the FP via HDMI?Yes, the Tivo will record two different OTA HD channels simultaneously while you watch a third, previously recorded OTA HD program.

You can also watch the program as it records, if you want. It's not like a VCR where you have to wait until the recording is done to watch it; you can watch the program from the beginning, while it is still recording, and skip the commercials.

Nickff, are they looking at the diagnostic screen or just hitting the cards? The next time you see it go grey go look at the diagnostic screen (Settings/System Information/Diagnostics) take a look at the video pids and pcr pids. They should be the same. If they are, try changing the channel to any non hd but digitally encrypted channel. Then change it back to HBO.
Do you see a picture? That may be something you want to do to both cards to insure it will pick up.

Now if the pids aren't the same then head end has to get involved and fix it.

One other thought: there are only like a zillion HBO channels to watch Curb on and since it isn't in HD anyway, set a SP up on another channel that you know will work.:)

The 2nd cablecard will not decode any of the Encore or HBO channels. I have not checked the pids, but once the channels are gone they are gone until the card is re-authorized. I think there is a problem with the way they have set up my account. However, none of the Comcast techs know what they are doing with cablecards (that is straight from their mouth).

Cablecard #1 works just fine.

Nickff,

If your Tivo is still on the 9.1 software, be sure to request the 9.2 software @ http://www.tivo.com/priority/. It fixed a number of issues with 9.1, and many found it to eliminate the loss of a digital tuners (requiring a reboot in 9.1).

I have 9.2

The 2nd cablecard will not decode any of the Encore or HBO channels. I have not checked the pids, but once the channels are gone they are gone until the card is re-authorized. I think there is a problem with the way they have set up my account. However, none of the Comcast techs know what they are doing with cablecards (that is straight from their mouth).

Cablecard #1 works just fine.

Then you are going to somehow going to have to get in touch with someone at headend. Problems with cable cards like this are seen frequently. Just recently my contact at head end and I discovered that they had the cards located in the wrong position but it was working, and for sometime as well without problems. Then suddenly a problem of some sort came up and that was how we figured out what was wrong.

I have had more conversations with my contact at headend then I'd like to admit. And in every single case it was a problem with the cable company. All it takes is a code that's not quite right, even an audio code hidden in the digital stream and it can mess things up.

Right now I cannot receive the newly added Fox Financial Network, which I could really care less about, but still should be able to receive. I can tell from the pids that is where the problem lies and they acknowledge at head end that is the problem. They are working on it but can't fix that without breaking something else!

You need to contact a supervisor and tell them that someone from headend needs to look at this. Try and get a number for headend from CS. Push the tech to give you a contact, I got mine when the Supervisor dropped her first name. A little detective work and I was in.

A tech acknowledging that he "doesn't know what he is doing" is unacceptable. If one came out to my house and said that I'd send him packing and tell him to send me a supervisor or someone who does. Sometimes you gotta play a little hard ball, and don't forget you are the customer and you are paying for this.

Good luck.

How long after the CC's are working does the online scheduling update to reflect the new channels? I had Comcast come out but I was not there to supervise someone else was. I talked to the tech over the phone and he said everything was working but my online guide still shows channels 2-99 only.

How long after the CC's are working does the online scheduling update to reflect the new channels? I had Comcast come out but I was not there to supervise someone else was. I talked to the tech over the phone and he said everything was working but my online guide still shows channels 2-99 only.

Usually within 25 mins I saw mine come up, dig in to the setup options, make sure the cards have been activated under status.

Usually within 25 mins I saw mine come up, dig in to the setup options, make sure the cards have been activated under status.

I'm trying to view them online from work, not at home until later.

Got home and all our channels were there. Some things I noticed after switching from my Comcast DVR.

-navigating the guide is slower
-changing channels is slower (time for picture to show up)
-When pressing guide cannot switch days?

This is mostly due to my just learning how to use it but hopefully these are fixable.

How long after the CC's are working does the online scheduling update to reflect the new channels? I had Comcast come out but I was not there to supervise someone else was. I talked to the tech over the phone and he said everything was working but my online guide still shows channels 2-99 only.If you only see channels 2-99, you need to re-run guided setting to select digital cable. You can do that under Message & Settings -> Restart or Reset System -> Repeat Guided Setup.

You can then add / remove channels from your lineup under Settings -> Channels -> Channel List. Be sure to uncheck channels you do not receive and channels you do not want to record from. The Tivo will only search channels you check.

Got home and all our channels were there. Some things I noticed after switching from my Comcast DVR.

-navigating the guide is slower
-changing channels is slower (time for picture to show up)
-When pressing guide cannot switch days?

This is mostly due to my just learning how to use it but hopefully these are fixable.The guide and menus will be slower than usual for the first 2-3 days while guide information is indexed. That 2-3 days of indexing is also required after some software updates.

If you have the TivoHD, grid guide performance was improved in 9.2. You can sign up (http://www.tivo.com/priority/) to receive the 9.2 software. You will get it regardless, but signing up gets you the software in 2-3 days instead of 2-3 weeks.

Pressing ENT while on the guide will allow you to select a date and time. You can find specific programs by using the Search by Title feature. If you are look for a specific type of content, I would recommend you create a wishlist. Below are some examples of wishlists you can create with the 9.2 software:

http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/tivo/wishlist3b.jpg http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/tivo/wishlist3c.jpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/tivo/wishlist3.jpg http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/tivo/wishlist3a.jpg

You can set wishlists like these to autorecord, and they will autorecord that content from all channels checked in your Channel List -- regardless of date, time, and channel. As with season episodes, you can specify the number of programs to keep and whether to record just new (first-run) programs or new and repeats.

Got home and all our channels were there. Some things I noticed after switching from my Comcast DVR.

-navigating the guide is slower
-changing channels is slower (time for picture to show up)
-When pressing guide cannot switch days?

This is mostly due to my just learning how to use it but hopefully these are fixable.

There is nothing really to fix. The guide won't go to different days, that's why you have "Find Programs" in your main menu. You just type in the first few letters of what you want to record and TiVo will find it for you.

I understand how this might all seem a bit different to you but after a while you will see that TiVo's search features are much better then flipping into a guide. Also you can "Search by channel" or "search by time" then you will see what is available at different days.

Another thing too is to make sure you are using the correct guide. I like the TV Guide one. It's faster and easier to read.

As far as the channel changing being slower you can improve that by selecting a different mode for receiving your channels. If you have it set on "Native" it will take a bit longer. However if you know you're set is 1080i you can set it on that position and that will make it a bit faster.

I just saw bfdtv respond as well. Like he says, 9.2 will be much nicer when you get that.

Yeah I'm not upset, it's just different. Right now I have v8.0 so I have some catching up to do. I signed up last night for the priority service so I'll have to wait to get the updates.

Also, does the box ever turn off or go into standby mode?

Yeah I'm not upset, it's just different. Right now I have v8.0 so I have some catching up to do. I signed up last night for the priority service so I'll have to wait to get the updates.

Also, does the box ever turn off or go into standby mode?


Your box will attempt to grab the latest version of software in the middle of the night. If your box has been added to the 9.2 list, and you don't want to wait for it to automatically pull the software, you can force it to do so.

Messages & Settings --> Settings --> Phone & Network --> Connect to the TiVo service now

This will tell the TiVo to connect to the TiVo servers, update the guide data and pull any available software updates.


The box never turns off on it's own. You can put it into a "standby" mode, but that really doesn't do anything significant. Most people just leave it on all the time.

I programmed my Harmony and it looks like it did in fact turn it off. The front display is completely off with no lights/time. If I leave it like that will it still record? Also, if I do is there a way to leave the time on?

Edit: I guess I'm not on the list yet. I forced an update but still stuck at 8.0.1
My time is still off too, was there a DST update with one of those?

Your box will attempt to grab the latest version of software in the middle of the night. If your box has been added to the 9.2 list, and you don't want to wait for it to automatically pull the software, you can force it to do so.

Messages & Settings --> Settings --> Phone & Network --> Connect to the TiVo service now

This will tell the TiVo to connect to the TiVo servers, update the guide data and pull any available software updates.


The box never turns off on it's own. You can put it into a "standby" mode, but that really doesn't do anything significant. Most people just leave it on all the time.

...The guide won't go to different days...Point of clarification -- it will change days. Hit "enter" while the guide is displayed and you'll be presented with a menu that allows you to jump to a certain date and/or time (along with which channels to display such as your favorites or all channels and the option of changing the grid style).

Point of clarification -- it will change days. Hit "enter" while the guide is displayed and you'll be presented with a menu that allows you to jump to a certain date and/or time (along with which channels to display such as your favorites or all channels and the option of changing the grid style).

Trust bierboy. He knows more ins and outs in TiVo then I do.:)

And he's very polite in correcting me as well.

Point of clarification -- it will change days. Hit "enter" while the guide is displayed and you'll be presented with a menu that allows you to jump to a certain date and/or time (along with which channels to display such as your favorites or all channels and the option of changing the grid style).

I knew there had to be a way, but like I said since this is my first night. I have some learnin to do. :) Thanks.

New User Blues...

I found out the hard way how "keep a maximum of x shows" works...before the external disk was supported on the tivohd (expansion disk ordered and enroute!) I set up recordings with a max of 2 shows, to ensure I wouldn't run out of space...I just assumed it would work like my replaytv's, where it keeps the MOST RECENT 2 shows...however...!!! It does not...once it gets 2 shows, then it won't record any more! This seems especially silly in light of the very nice "recently deleted" option (or whatever it's called), where you could always get back a show that was recently deleted, as long as it wasn't cleared out of there because you needed space.

Anyway, it seems like it would make a lot more sense to keep the most recent x number of shows, rather than the FIRST x number of shows...or did I set up something wrong?

I'm guessing if I suggested this as an enhancement, that I'd be told something like "well, now it would screw too many people up to change how that works"...but it still seems like it would make more sense, and at least they could (usually) recover a previous show if it got deleted to record a new one.

Luckily, I didn't really miss my recording, since I record all of my "important" shows on 2 different devices!

New User Blues...

I found out the hard way how "keep a maximum of x shows" works...before the external disk was supported on the tivohd (expansion disk ordered and enroute!) I set up recordings with a max of 2 shows, to ensure I wouldn't run out of space...I just assumed it would work like my replaytv's, where it keeps the MOST RECENT 2 shows...however...!!! It does not...once it gets 2 shows, then it won't record any more! This seems especially silly in light of the very nice "recently deleted" option (or whatever it's called), where you could always get back a show that was recently deleted, as long as it wasn't cleared out of there because you needed space.

Anyway, it seems like it would make a lot more sense to keep the most recent x number of shows, rather than the FIRST x number of shows...or did I set up something wrong?

I'm guessing if I suggested this as an enhancement, that I'd be told something like "well, now it would screw too many people up to change how that works"...but it still seems like it would make more sense, and at least they could (usually) recover a previous show if it got deleted to record a new one.

Luckily, I didn't really miss my recording, since I record all of my "important" shows on 2 different devices!

Your statement is only true if you also have 'keep till I delete' set. The Tivo will obey your instructions and keep the older shows and stop recording new ones if you reach the number of shows limit. Its doing exactly what you told it to do... keep 2 and dont delete until I say so. Set 'keep till space needed' along with the max number to keep then it will delete the oldest and record the latest.

Your statement is only true if you also have 'keep till I delete' set. The Tivo will obey your instructions and keep the older shows and stop recording new ones if you reach the number of shows limit. Its doing exactly what you told it to do... keep 2 and dont delete until I say so. Set 'keep till space needed' along with the max number to keep then it will delete the oldest and record the latest.

True, I record Peoples Court and don't have "Keep until I delete" on that, max 5 episodes. When I went to LA it deleted the older episodes only.

Judge Millian is hot, you know she is 47 years old?

I woke up this morning and noticed the time on the Tivo was correct so I knew the update had come. I turned it on to get a bunch of messages about the Fall Update, and I now have 9.1. How do I get 9.2? I'm already on the priority list, shouldn't I have gotten all the updates up to 9.2?

Does Tivo desktop support .ts files?

I woke up this morning and noticed the time on the Tivo was correct so I knew the update had come. I turned it on to get a bunch of messages about the Fall Update, and I now have 9.1. How do I get 9.2? I'm already on the priority list, shouldn't I have gotten all the updates up to 9.2?

Does Tivo desktop support .ts files?

Patience my friend. One step at a time. You need to get 9.1 before you get 9.2.

It does not support .ts files, though there may be a work around for that. TiVo.net doesn't seem to either.

Your statement is only true if you also have 'keep till I delete' set. The Tivo will obey your instructions and keep the older shows and stop recording new ones if you reach the number of shows limit. Its doing exactly what you told it to do... keep 2 and dont delete until I say so. Set 'keep till space needed' along with the max number to keep then it will delete the oldest and record the latest.

Hmmm...okay, I guess that makes sense...so if I set it this way, and it needs to delete one to record a new one, but not because the whole tivo was out of space, will the one it deletes still appear in the "recently deleted" folder, so it can still be retrieved to watch it?

Sorry for the noob-type question, but I've been used to replaytv for years (and actually still prefer that interface, sorry! I would say I like the way replay does things over tivo about 80-85%, and tivo over replay only about 15-20%.), and I'm a newer tivo user. Thanks to hd on tivo!

Hmmm...okay, I guess that makes sense...so if I set it this way, and it needs to delete one to record a new one, but not because the whole tivo was out of space, will the one it deletes still appear in the "recently deleted" folder, so it can still be retrieved to watch it?

Sorry for the noob-type question, but I've been used to replaytv for years (and actually still prefer that interface, sorry! I would say I like the way replay does things over tivo about 80-85%, and tivo over replay only about 15-20%.), and I'm a newer tivo user. Thanks to hd on tivo!

Yes... It will be in recently deleted.

I woke up this morning and noticed the time on the Tivo was correct so I knew the update had come. I turned it on to get a bunch of messages about the Fall Update, and I now have 9.1. How do I get 9.2? I'm already on the priority list, shouldn't I have gotten all the updates up to 9.2?

Does Tivo desktop support .ts files?

http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/showsoftware_hdtvtompeg2_284.html

You can use HDTVtoMPEG2 application (free) to convert the transport stream to mpeg and then use TTCB to pull the mpeg to the Tivo.

Just make sure the bitrate, even briefly, does not exceed around 18mbit/s. Some of us were getting glitches in playback on our S3s from HD videos we converted to mpeg using ffmpeg/pyTivo, and it turned out it was because of this. After setting the correct command line switch to limit the maximum rate to 17 mb/s all is good.

I have a S3 Tivo from Amazon on order since they were substantially cheaper than the Sony Web site and having never used one (perhaps the last American household not to have one), am wondering if it is possible to use an IR repeater of some sort so that the Tivo remote can be used to control the Tivo from two adjacent rooms.

Thoughts/opinions?

MikeSp

OK: Sony DHG-HDD250 and Sony DHG-HDD500. That wasn't hard.

Um... aren't Sony's machines Single Tuner? Also, the HDD-500 is around $1000 isn't it.

You can get a TivoHD, 500GB expansion, 3 years of service for $650. Or, for $100 more you can get the S3 while the $200 rebate is active.

BOb

Um... aren't Sony's machines Single Tuner? Also, the HDD-500 is around $1000 isn't it.

You can get a TivoHD, 500GB expansion, 3 years of service for $650. Or, for $100 more you can get the S3 while the $200 rebate is active.

BOb

Actually, it is even less than quoted above, pending the source:D. I tried Tivo.com but they insisted that their price of $ 599.99 included the rebate when I called them today.

Not meaning to advertise for Amazon, but I just purchased an S3 and with the rebate the price will be $359 and add the $299 (3 year programming) = $658 which is even less than the amount quoted above and that is good gnus.

Frankly, I hate to pay for the programming since I would just as soon set it like I have been doing VCR's since 1983, but I FINALLY gave in so that we could record OTA HDTV -- for movies, we purchase or rent on DVD and our future FP will need a tuner. (I did wire my HT that is under construction for cable HD just in case ala carte ever becomes available and we can choose just the dozen HD channels that we would watch).

MikeSp

I have a S3 Tivo from Amazon on order since they were substantially cheaper than the Sony Web site and having never used one (perhaps the last American household not to have one), am wondering if it is possible to use an IR repeater of some sort so that the Tivo remote can be used to control the Tivo from two adjacent rooms.

Thoughts/opinions?

MikeSp

I use a Xantech IR repeating system with my S3. No problems at all.

I use a Xantech IR repeating system with my S3. No problems at all.

Thanks Paul!!!

MikeSp

Not meaning to advertise for Amazon, but I just purchased an S3 and with the rebate the price will be $359 and add the $299 (3 year programming) = $658 which is even less than the amount quoted above and that is good gnus.


Yes, but you didn't add in the $200 for the 500GB external drive as I did.

I also realize in my numbers I goofed. I calculated with $199 for the 3year service rather than $299.

So, at the Amazon price...

TivoHD, 500GB external drive, 3yr service = $750
TivoS3, 500GB external drive, 3yr service = $850 (after $200 rebate*)

*If you don't want to pay the extra $200 up front you can buy direct from TiVO and get it off instanly. But, then you have to pay $399 for the S3 rather than $350 ($550 - $200rebate).

BOb

Um... aren't Sony's machines Single Tuner? Also, the HDD-500 is around $1000 isn't it.

You can get a TivoHD, 500GB expansion, 3 years of service for $650. Or, for $100 more you can get the S3 while the $200 rebate is active.

BObOh, don't get me wrong, I'm not recommending the Sonys. I was merely responding to a post that implied it would be difficult to find a DVR that could provide guide data for digital cable channels received without CableCARDs. The Sonys are an easy rebuttal to such arguments.

Some people seem to think it is complicated or unprecedented to provide guide data for digital cable channels without CableCARDs, when it is neither. It is a great shortcoming of the TiVo, IMHO.

Yes, but you didn't add in the $200 for the 500GB external drive as I did.

I also realize in my numbers I goofed. I calculated with $199 for the 3year service rather than $299.

So, at the Amazon price...

TivoHD, 500GB external drive, 3yr service = $750
TivoS3, 500GB external drive, 3yr service = $850 (after $200 rebate*)

*If you don't want to pay the extra $200 up front you can buy direct from TiVO and get it off instanly. But, then you have to pay $399 for the S3 rather than $350 ($550 - $200rebate).

BOb

Bob--I see the error in my ways when I DID leave out the external HDD. BTW--I called Tivo Customer Service TWICE today an asked about the $200 since it indicated "Save $200 Instantly." Both replies was that when it is stated that way, that the price reflected the $200 savings since it previously retailed at $799. GRRRR--had I received the correct answer, I would have ordered it then and there from Tivo.com - and I even indicated that Amazon had shown a $200 rebate from their price that was lower than $599. Some days I cannot win...

BTW--being ignorant and a total noob at TIVOs, can the user add their own eSATA external drive if they care to do so or does it have to be an offical Tivo eSATA external drive because they have some kind of lock in the firmware to prevent us from adding our own?

MikeSp

BTW--being ignorant and a total noob at TIVOs, can the user add their own eSATA external drive if they care to do so or does it have to be an offical Tivo eSATA external drive because they have some kind of lock in the firmware to prevent us from adding our own?With the Tivo Series3, you can use any eSATA drive. The TivoHD software is currently locked to one drive. More information below:

Official eSATA Drive Expansion in 9.2: FAQ (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=370784)

Point of clarification -- it [the onscreen guide you can get only while watching Live TV] will change days. Hit "enter" while the guide is displayed and you'll be presented with a menu that allows you to jump to a certain date and/or time (along with which channels to display such as your favorites or all channels and the option of changing the grid style).
That’s a neat trick but I don’t use it much because there is an alternative I prefer:

Go to the TiVo Menu -> Find Programs -> Record by Time of Channel -> Browse by Time. Then select All channels if you simply want to look at everything on a certain date, or narrow your search by using the myriad search filters that are provided on the menu. After you have finished selecting your search parameters, if any, you will be taken to a screen that allows you to change the date and time. Simply change to the date and time you want to start to browse and all programs you are interested in will show up. Better yet, you can keep scrolling down to later and later dates until the guide information runs out.

This feature has been the greatest innovation since the PostIt note for me. Almost every Saturday I set up a search for all football games that day, starting at about 10:00am. Voila! Every football game being carried that day, either on Cox or OTA, shows up on my custom guide. Thanks, TiVo!

That’s a neat trick but I don’t use it much because there is an alternative I prefer:

Go to the TiVo Menu -> Find Programs -> Record by Time of Channel -> Browse by Time. Then select All channels if you simply want to look at everything on a certain date, or narrow your search by using the myriad search filters that are provided on the menu. After you have finished selecting your search parameters, if any, you will be taken to a screen that allows you to change the date and time. Simply change to the date and time you want to start to browse and all programs you are interested in will show up. Better yet, you can keep scrolling down to later and later dates until the guide information runs out.

This feature has been the greatest innovation since the PostIt note for me. Almost every Saturday I set up a search for all football games that day, starting at about 10:00am. Voila! Every football game being carried that day, either on Cox or OTA, shows up on my custom guide. Thanks, TiVo!

A WishList would get you the same thing, without having to recreate it every Saturday...

A WishList would get you the same thing, without having to recreate it every Saturday...
I understand but I prefer to limit the number of Wishlists I create. Further, finding college football games is not the only thing I use the procedure I described for. Anyway, this discussion proves TiVo's marvelous flexibility. There are always a bunch of different ways to do a bunch of different things.

I just received 9.2 on my S3 (and my 500G DVR extender drive is up and running nicely ginving me almost 100hrs of HD capacity - yeah), BUT, I am still seeing picture problems (brief pixelation and audio drop outs) with HD channels. The problem has improved quite a bit from when I first got my S3 six months ago, but it is still very irritating, especially considering I never see the problem with the same material on my S-A 8300HD (for all my SDV channels) and I never see the problem on OTA channels.
I have seen some posts indicating that 9.2 has finally fixed this problem, but that is not my experience with my S3 (maybe the problem has only gone away with the newer TivoHD with its slightly faster CPU?). Is anyone else seeing this? Does TiVo know about this? Does anyone have any suggestions regarding how to fix this?
I have a couple of old S-A single stream CableCARDs.

I just received 9.2 on my S3 (and my 500G DVR extender drive is up and running nicely ginving me almost 100hrs of HD capacity - yeah), BUT, I am still seeing picture problems (brief pixelation and audio drop outs) with HD channels. The problem has improved quite a bit from when I first got my S3 six months ago, but it is still very irritating, especially considering I never see the problem with the same material on my S-A 8300HD (for all my SDV channels) and I never see the problem on OTA channels.
I have seen some posts indicating that 9.2 has finally fixed this problem, but that is not my experience with my S3 (maybe the problem has only gone away with the newer TivoHD with its slightly faster CPU?). Is anyone else seeing this? Does TiVo know about this? Does anyone have any suggestions regarding how to fix this?
I have a couple of old S-A single stream CableCARDs.

Did you check the RS Uncorrected and Corrected values in the Diagnostics menu? That along with the SNR and Signal strength from that menu will tell a lot about the source of your issue.

I just received 9.2 on my S3 (and my 500G DVR extender drive is up and running nicely ginving me almost 100hrs of HD capacity - yeah), BUT, I am still seeing picture problems (brief pixelation and audio drop outs) with HD channels. The problem has improved quite a bit from when I first got my S3 six months ago, but it is still very irritating, especially considering I never see the problem with the same material on my S-A 8300HD (for all my SDV channels) and I never see the problem on OTA channels.
I have seen some posts indicating that 9.2 has finally fixed this problem, but that is not my experience with my S3 (maybe the problem has only gone away with the newer TivoHD with its slightly faster CPU?). Is anyone else seeing this? Does TiVo know about this? Does anyone have any suggestions regarding how to fix this?
I have a couple of old S-A single stream CableCARDs.

I have never had a pixelation issue with my S3 and SA cards. You will see some pixelation once in a while but it shouldn't be a persistant problem, specially with the release of 9.2.

If your cable company did not check your signal strength when you had your cable cards installed, you really need to have them come out and make sure that you are receiving a good signal. It could also be a problem with too strong a signal. That will casue problems as well.

Even if your TiVo is saying you've got a good signal, you won't really know until a tech checks.

I keep hitting connect to Tivo but still haven't gotten 9.2. I wonder why? Yes I did sign up for the priority service on Monday.

Edit: I watched my first show tonight that was recorded. I got skips/pixelization quite a few times. I take it this is a common issue?