And just what, exactly, is that guy sitting next to her looking at? :p

And just what, exactly, is that guy sitting next to her looking at? :p
Maybe Der Weiner Snitchel? :eek:

Or perhaps her ample tracks of land....

And just what, exactly, is that guy sitting next to her looking at? :p

According to the site that is Peter from the show (Can't spell the actors last name).

I'm with you. Can't wait.
My biggest gripe lately is that there is just too much time when a series I like is off the air. It helps if they have a recap show a week or an hour before the series resumes.
Don't worry, usually during a show like this the 2 weeks leading up to the season premiere they show the season finale. You should look forward to Sept 10th & 17th for those episodes. The only televised drama that has a yearly recap recently has been Lostsometimes they have 2 a year and the show is only three years old.

Seems to me the DVD for season 1 is over priced about 25%. I was all set to buy.:(

A $100 for the HD DVD set & $50 for standerd DVD!

You missed the best time to buy. You needed to buy it on release week and you would have found better prices. Normally you could get a $50 list item for $29+ and the $100 HDversion for $69+. The HD version will always be high. That will be an issue for years to come.
If you are not in a rush for it I recommend circular shopping a week before the thanksgiving through after new years day. They have great deals on DVD's during this time of the years and most of it advertised. ex. every season of 24 at $19.00(list $49.99), LOST sn2 $19.00(list $59.99) and my best one IMO was The Simpsons sn 6 & 7 for $15.00ea (list $49.99). Check the prices now at some of the better web sites and you still can't beat that. I know it is hard to wait for some series, but I think it is worth the wait sometimes because of the savings you can find.

It depends; while most retailers had the SD DVD set on sale, only Amazon appeared to have the HD DVD set on sale.

It depends; while most retailers had the SD DVD set on sale, only Amazon appeared to have the HD DVD set on sale.
Not all that surprising, because while supporting both formats, HD DVD seems to have had some kind of 'favored nation' thing going on with Amazon for a while.

Hope Amazon was smart enough to cut one of those 100 million dollar promotional deals retroactively! :D

Back to biz - Who's seen the original Heroes pilot (yeah, yeah, I know it was shown at some comicom thing), but now the rest of us have the chance to check it out on Disk 1. Maybe not quite as 'tight' as the broadcast version, but I liked it a lot better. Darker, edgier and clearly directed to a more adult audience. Hard to make a conclusion based on a single ep, but I think Heroes might have been a better show (not that it isn't a great show already), if they had stuck closer to the tone of the original pilot; but probably would have lost a decent sized chunk of the mega-audience it attained.

This is one of those occasions when an alternate time-line would come in real handy. ;)

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nuttyinnyc,

Yea I have always bought movies & such the week they come out. Always cheaper. This time I was not able to though.

The thing about Heroes is, compaired to other brand new seasons of shows it is about 25% higher.

It reminds me of how much higher, (WAY higher) Paramount marked up Star Trek stuff shows. Finally they pulled their heads out of their blanks and dropped prices down to a resonable level. Luckely Costco is my friend. I found the st. DVD of Heroes for 38.49 yesterday.

I think I'll watch the original pilot tonight.:)

I enjoyed the original pilot, but prefer the direction they ended up with. The terrorist plot just seemed a little too 24 for me.

And Couch Potato, have you seen the MSRP of the HD DVD of Star Trek TOS season one? Paramount is back up to their old tricks.

nuttyinnyc,

Yea I have always bought movies & such the week they come out. Always cheaper. This time I was not able to though.

The thing about Heroes is, compaired to other brand new seasons of shows it is about 25% higher.

It reminds me of how much higher, (WAY higher) Paramount marked up Star Trek stuff shows. Finally they pulled their heads out of their blanks and dropped prices down to a resonable level. Luckely Costco is my friend. I found the st. DVD of Heroes for 38.49 yesterday.

I think I'll watch the original pilot tonight.:)
Yeah, I hear you. BJ's is my friend also. You will be surprised but if you don't mind online shopping Overstock before they were big enough for comercials and DeepdiscountDVD usually has some good prices plus no tax, no shipping and online coupons which always is a big boost. But from what I saw 38 seems like a good buy for that series. Not only Paramount, the X-files still think they are on the air and mean something with that $59.99 price tag.

RockyF I wouldn't expect any HD or BD series titles to be anywhere near a consumer friendly retail price until they have a single platform or 35-50% of Americans have adopted the HD on DVD way of life. Right now, The majority of americans don't know if they are or aren't watching HDTV when they purchase a HDTV. Also they think regular DVD's look just perfect on their new HDTV's. Plus the price scares most people away.

RockyF I wouldn't expect any HD or BD series titles to be anywhere near a consumer friendly retail price until they have a single platform or 35-50% of Americans have adopted the HD on DVD way of life. Right now, The majority of americans don't know if they are or aren't watching HDTV when they purchase a HDTV. Also they think regular DVD's look just perfect on their new HDTV's. Plus the price scares most people away.

Oh, I agree completely, but my point was that other HD DVD or Blu Ray TV sets so far have had an MSRP of about $100-$140 or so, but Star Trek is (or at least was when first announced) $217 for a single season.:eek:

When they released STNG on standard DVD each season was over $100. Now they're $44 at Costco.


Back on subject. After watching the unedited version of Heroes I think I would have liked the terrorist plot line.

I like what we have though too. We wouldn't have been able to guess who or what the bomb was going to be for most of the season. I wonder how they would have done the Sylar plot line with Mohinder meeting him so soon.

Oh, I agree completely, but my point was that other HD DVD or Blu Ray TV sets so far have had an MSRP of about $100-$140 or so, but Star Trek is (or at least was when first announced) $217 for a single season.:eek:
Yeah, but if you buy it along with an HD DVD player, you qualify (but not clear if its free or if you're even certain to get one, as its limited) a phaser-shaped remote control. I mean, isn't THAT alone worth the $400.00 or more investment??:rolleyes:

When they released STNG on standard DVD each season was over $100. Now they're $44 at Costco.
Actually, even when they were first released, Costco had them for less than $80. And now its half of that. That's why I'm not exactly rushing out to purchase series that I've already seen.

Back on subject. After watching the unedited version of Heroes I think I would have liked the terrorist plot line.
Same here, and I didn't get the feel of it being that 24-like (though anything with a terrorist theme will make us think of 24 these days). I also found the actual terrorist to be a less superficial plot device than Radioactive Ted.

But more importantly, was the maturer overall tone. These were Heroes I thought could really die. And when was the last time you saw something like Isaac's drug addiction 'solution'? Never mind, another 24 rip-off. ;)

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Gotta throw my vote in against the terrorist plot line. It did feel very 24-esque to me as well. Also, Parkman trying for SWAT was a lot less believable than him trying for Detective...

Hatian question

Is his ability sort of a "null field" for other heroes around him? Or is it just to erase minds? When I saw the series on tv, I thought it was the "null field" option. But now that I'm re-watching the series on HDDVD, its looking more to the latter. Can anyone verify? Thanks

That's not a spoiler.

It is both, but it looks like he has to actually concentrate to use his "null field" power (see Nathan flying away from the Haitian in Vegas or Peter on the roof after they shot Claude).

That's not a spoiler.

It is both, but it looks like he has to actually concentrate to use his "null field" power (see Nathan flying away from the Haitian in Vegas or Peter on the roof after they shot Claude).

Thanks for the speedy response. I'm going to keep an eye on it as I re-watch the episodes.

You will really need to see the show the asian guys conversation with his buddy is actually pretty funny.

I love when they're in the diner and Hiro keeps asking about waffles!

Hatian question

Is his ability sort of a "null field" for other heroes around him? Or is it just to erase minds? When I saw the series on tv, I thought it was the "null field" option. But now that I'm re-watching the series on HDDVD, its looking more to the latter. Can anyone verify? Thanks

I believe his power is to affect memory (i.e. he erases memory). Since a hero does not have multiple powers (exceptions Peter, Sylar) then its not that he can do something else, but he is surpressing your memory to use your power. Its not perfect since Matt was lying on the bed and the Hatian was concentrating, hard, and Matt still was able to read a word. So this ability is probably a side effect of his main ability to erase memory.

Oh, I agree completely, but my point was that other HD DVD or Blu Ray TV sets so far have had an MSRP of about $100-$140 or so, but Star Trek is (or at least was when first announced) $217 for a single season.:eek:
I almost fell out of my seat, $217 for one season for a 40 y/o TV series. It might be in HD but I wouldn't pay that much if all 3 seasons were for that much. That is insanse!!! But you know what there are people out there that will and do pay those prices.

If you pay attention, you'll notice waffles are a recuring theme.

I almost fell out of my seat, $217 for one season for a 40 y/o TV series.
$138.95 @ Amazon right now.

Just finished the DVD set...incredible lack of bonus feature but oh well, Can't wait for 9/24!!!!

I believe his power is to affect memory (i.e. he erases memory). Since a hero does not have multiple powers (exceptions Peter, Sylar) then its not that he can do something else, but he is surpressing your memory to use your power. Its not perfect since Matt was lying on the bed and the Hatian was concentrating, hard, and Matt still was able to read a word. So this ability is probably a side effect of his main ability to erase memory.

I think it is a little broader than just memory. He can do some mind control, putting people to sleep and whatnot. Makes me wonder if he could go all the way, control someone's actions for a time. He hasn't made somebody do something, but he has made them stop.

In watching the DVDs this week... I was reminded of a question I asked myself originally..

How does Claire have pierced earrings?

I know how Hayden can have them... but Claire, in several closeups, clearly has a couple... but we know she would heal instantly so it seems like body piercings wouldn't be possible for her.

On a semi-related note... Claire might be an EXCELLENT carrier for a deadly virus. Since she would heal instantly, she couldn't be hurt by it... but could very well be a carrier as long as the virus could sustain itself on something. It's not clear how her immune system works (she may just be normal in that regard) but any actual damage done to her would self-repair.. so it may work that she could incubate a virus that would continue to tear at her, and she would re-heal over and over.

In watching the DVDs this week... I was reminded of a question I asked myself originally..

How does Claire have pierced earrings?

I know how Hayden can have them... but Claire, in several closeups, clearly has a couple... but we know she would heal instantly so it seems like body piercings wouldn't be possible for her.

On a semi-related note... Claire might be an EXCELLENT carrier for a deadly virus. Since she would heal instantly, she couldn't be hurt by it... but could very well be a carrier as long as the virus could sustain itself on something. It's not clear how her immune system works (she may just be normal in that regard) but any actual damage done to her would self-repair.. so it may work that she could incubate a virus that would continue to tear at her, and she would re-heal over and over.

Pierced ear-rings? Seriously, thats the best plot-hole you can come up with? Thats really picking...

Pierced ear-rings? Seriously, thats the best plot-hole you can come up with? Thats really picking...

No, thats TWO plot holes.

Nah, because anyone can pierce an earring.

Now the question is, how does she have pierced ears? ;)

In watching the DVDs this week... I was reminded of a question I asked myself originally..

How does Claire have pierced earrings?

I know how Hayden can have them... but Claire, in several closeups, clearly has a couple... but we know she would heal instantly so it seems like body piercings wouldn't be possible for her.

On a semi-related note... Claire might be an EXCELLENT carrier for a deadly virus. Since she would heal instantly, she couldn't be hurt by it... but could very well be a carrier as long as the virus could sustain itself on something. It's not clear how her immune system works (she may just be normal in that regard) but any actual damage done to her would self-repair.. so it may work that she could incubate a virus that would continue to tear at her, and she would re-heal over and over.

Remember when she had the piece of wood in her head? She didn't heal until they removed it at the morgue. So by following that logic as long as she left the earrings in they wouldn't heal.

... and even if it did in between - she can just pop the new ones in. If she can continually throw herself off a 3 story drop and break bones, she can certainly handle what little pain that exists with piercing her ears on a regular basis.

Now her hair, on the other hand, can't be reconciled. :)

Hey there,

Just finished watching season 1 on DVD and I actually read this whole thread by episode as I watched them, good to see some "predictions" come true and others not.

Anyway I have one thought about NYC blowing up, when Hiro first "goes" to NYC, when he teleports to Times Square and see Isaac dead and gets arrested, the bomb goes off and it is light outside. In the finale Peter blows up when it is dark. Maybe THE BOMB going off hasn't happened yet and within a few moments of the coming season NYC is still toast.

That would completely suck. I'd probably stop watching the show. You can't build up a story for an entire season, resolve it, and then go back and say "ha! we tricked you!"

Hey there,

Just finished watching season 1 on DVD and I actually read this whole thread by episode as I watched them, good to see some "predictions" come true and others not.

Anyway I have one thought about NYC blowing up, when Hiro first "goes" to NYC, when he teleports to Times Square and see Isaac dead and gets arrested, the bomb goes off and it is light outside. In the finale Peter blows up when it is dark. Maybe THE BOMB going off hasn't happened yet and within a few moments of the coming season NYC is still toast.
If you watched closely, Everything ended up changing. Sure Peter did blow himself up, but are we sure , really sure it was suppose to be him. Maybe it was going to be Ted in the daytime. By Hiro going out of his way to join all these forces and trying hard to stop the bomb, changed the future. The timeline changed. Maybe the writers, just dropped the ball early in the season, then by the end knew it would be more realistic if it happened at night because they don't have to explain why the streets in front of a major downtown building was empty.
Personally I think the time line changed, but It is more of a non-factor now, because from what I think and we are all hoping, the bomb won't be revisited for no reason other then, How do they survive?

A week left and you guys are talking earrings and disease carrier. My 2 cents on both issues. She deals with pain so I don't see why there would be a problem with her piercing her self each time she wants to change them but I wouldn't be surprised if she uses the same ones. Also her healing isn't that fast that she couldn't have mastered the art of changing the earring befopre her body healed. As for the disease, how would you think she would be able to regenerate her brain, bones or any body part but to be able to hold a disease? I can't dismiss this totally, because she could have something she was born with but to get some kind of disease and hold it. I don't think that is possible.

This thread is going out with a whimper. Time for Season II - and a new thread?

New season is on Monday 24th. Don't worry it will have new life.

Fingers crossed, for NO sophomore Jinx!!! If past seasons are any indication. The majority of popular series have suffered through it. Lost and Desperate Housewives had the jinx with the second seasons of both being bashed. The Office and grey's anatamoy are shows that avaoided it.

Fingers crossed, for NO sophomore Jinx!!! If past seasons are any indication. The majority of popular series have suffered through it. Lost and Desperate Housewives had the jinx with the second seasons of both being bashed. The Office and grey's anatamoy are shows that avaoided it.

Grey's didn't avoid it. But Lost definitely had a 3rd year jinx as well. ;)

I have faith that this show will remain quality. Since they have shown their willingness to kill off major characters and introduce new ones they can always keep it fresh.

Does the new season start tonight?

Nope.

Does the new season start tonight?

Next week, September 24th.

Does anyone know who'll be writing the 2nd season episodes, the people who wrote the first ~17 eps, or those who wrote the last ~6? I just finished watching the HD-DVD set, and ya, the last 6 eps or so kind of sucked. Kinda has me worried about what to expect from season 2.

Too bad Masi Oka did not win the Best Supporting Actor Emmy.

Which brings up the question - who are considered to be the Lead Actor and Actress of this show?

I think Milo is probably the Lead Actor, but Hayden is probably not the Lead Actress. Perhaps Ali Larter would be?

Too bad Masi Oka did not win the Best Supporting Actor Emmy.

Which brings up the question - who are considered to be the Lead Actor and Actress of this show?

I think Milo is probably the Lead Actor, but Hayden is probably not the Lead Actress. Perhaps Ali Larter would be?

It's an ensemble cast that has no inherent lead. I agree that if you had to pick a lead actor that it would be Milo, but if you had to pick a lead actress I would say Hayden. She is more integral to the main story arc than Ali is.

Although, you could make a convincing argument that Masi is the lead actor...

Too bad Masi Oka did not win the Best Supporting Actor Emmy.

Which brings up the question - who are considered to be the Lead Actor and Actress of this show?

I think Milo is probably the Lead Actor, but Hayden is probably not the Lead Actress. Perhaps Ali Larter would be?
The actor themselves and the crew usually get to decide what they want to submit themselves as, as well as which episode they think they were the best at. This was brought to media attention during the days of Friends and I learned about it during the years of St Elsewhere and ensamble shows since. We could argue amongst ourselves who we think should be considered the lead actors, but the bottom line Hiro is the most memorable, but the story really centered on the brothers and Suresh. Any one of them could be the leads.

Does anyone know who'll be writing the 2nd season episodes, the people who wrote the first ~17 eps, or those who wrote the last ~6? I just finished watching the HD-DVD set, and ya, the last 6 eps or so kind of sucked. Kinda has me worried about what to expect from season 2.

Well, there wasn't a change in writers between the first 17 episodes and the last 6. At least the last four were written by writers who had written earlier episodes, and creator Tim Kring wrote the finale. He has also written the season premiere. I believe that there are a couple of new writers on the staff this year, and of course Bryan Fuller has left the show to do Pushing Daisies on ABC.

I personally am amazed at this attitude, as I found the early episodes painfully slow going and much preferred the later ones.

Then again I also considered the season finale to be one of the best hours of TV I've seen in a long time - IMHO it was perfect.

(I know most of you found it disappointing in some way or another.)

The only thing disappointing about it (IMO) was the anticlimactic showdown between Peter and Sylar. Other than that I loved the finale.

The only thing disappointing about it (IMO) was the anticlimactic showdown between Peter and Sylar. Other than that I loved the finale.


I think the anticlimactic battle was due to the fact they wanted to keep Sylar around. He was supposed to die off but was so popular they wrote him into the continuing story line.

And that's what ticked me off. Comon sence would have been to take Sylars head off right then & there. If Hiro didn't do it then one of the others that knew what Sylar was capable of would have been yelling at Hiro to do it.


And you can't tell me no one noticed that he climbed into the sewer. They would have been right there to stop him.

This is the kind of righting that just kills me in this day & age. 20 years ago I could understand it but now. NO!!!!!!

I just hate a villin that won't die! I never liked Jason, Freddy, or Michael after the first movies. It's just stupid. Although I do understand the money making aspect of it all.

It seemed to me at the time that the writers had sort of written themselves into a corner. There was supposed to be this big showdown, but all we got was a big letdown.

Yea, the show down in the alternative future/timeline was WAY better.

Someone going to create a season 2 thread? Don't want it to get too long like the LOST thread. :)

I cant wait to post in the Season 2 discussion thread! less than a week to go!!!

I personally am amazed at this attitude, as I found the early episodes painfully slow going and much preferred the later ones.

Then again I also considered the season finale to be one of the best hours of TV I've seen in a long time - IMHO it was perfect.

(I know most of you found it disappointing in some way or another.)

Perfect? If it wasn't so insanely unrealistic. People flying, blowing up, super strength.....all that I can believe....but c'mon, who ever heard of a politician risking his life to save other people? Turned the show into a complete farce.


I just can't wait to see the guy who scares Molly.

I personally am amazed at this attitude, as I found the early episodes painfully slow going and much preferred the later ones.

Then again I also considered the season finale to be one of the best hours of TV I've seen in a long time - IMHO it was perfect.

(I know most of you found it disappointing in some way or another.)
I don't know where this disappointment is coming from because if you look back on this thread, there were many including myself that enjoy the hell out of the final episodes. Each week left us wanting more. The only disappionment I had was that part 1 of the season finale had a better cliffhanger then the actual ending. Other then that I felt it was non-stop enjoyment and can't wait for monday.

i cant wait for season 2 to start, from what i read of the episode from the nbc site, it looks like it will start off awesome...

And that's what ticked me off. Comon sence would have been to take Sylars head off right then & there. If Hiro didn't do it then one of the others that knew what Sylar was capable of would have been yelling at Hiro to do it.
And you can't tell me no one noticed that he climbed into the sewer. They would have been right there to stop him.
This is the kind of righting that just kills me in this day & age. 20 years ago I could understand it but now. NO!!!!!!
I just hate a villin that won't die! I never liked Jason, Freddy, or Michael after the first movies. It's just stupid. Although I do understand the money making aspect of it all.

He should have died, I am with you, but for arguements sake, Sylar can get away undetected because people like flying people and explosions. So it is realistic that everyone was looking up when Sylar was doing his disappearing act. He was dead there was no reason to expect him to go anywhere. He doesn't have Claires power to fix himself so we can expect him to be fighting for his life when season 2 starts.

Perfect? If it wasn't so insanely unrealistic. People flying, blowing up, super strength.....all that I can believe....but c'mon, who ever heard of a politician risking his life to save other people? Turned the show into a complete farce.


I just can't wait to see the guy who scares Molly.
Molly was scared by Sylar. Remember Sylar killed her family and now they made her remember him so they could locate him.

are we sure Sylar isn't dead? I assumed someone might have stolen his body for research.

Molly was scared by Sylar. Remember Sylar killed her family and now they made her remember him so they could locate him.

But she also said there was someone else who scared her more, someone who could see her when she was using her power to look for him.

are we sure Sylar isn't dead? I assumed someone might have stolen his body for research.
I agree. It looked like the blood trail was caused by dragging, not crawling. And there was also that mysterious cockroach again...

But she also said there was someone else who scared her more, someone who could see her when she was using her power to look for him.
don't make me get the DVD now!!!! I don't remember that part. But if that was the case, wouldn't we assume it was linderman? We know he is dead now, but at the time she didn't.

No, she was quite clear it was someone much worse than Sylar and it wasn't Linderman.

Is there anyway to catch up on this show, without having to watch season one? Would I be completely lost if I tried to watch it at this point?

Is there anyway to catch up on this show, without having to watch season one? Would I be completely lost if I tried to watch it at this point?
Read the thread, that should work. Other then that you missed your window of opportunity when NBC.com was showing the full season. The DVD is your last best hope over $4 million has been made on rentals so there is hope in the rental stores.

I think this series will be a show that can be caught up to in the 2nd season. The writers themselves are looking at this season as a completely different Volume, So they might tigthen up the loose ends from last season and just go in a different direction from last season.

Nathan should be dead tho ;)

Is there anyway to catch up on this show, without having to watch season one? Would I be completely lost if I tried to watch it at this point?
You can get a crash course and start at season 2, but IMO you'd be missing out on what made season 1 so good: the unfolding mystery. Starting at this point would be like watching "Empire Strikes Back" without seeing "Star Wars", or "The Two Towers" without "Fellowship..." etc. It may very well be enjoyable, but you're almost cheating yourself. It's beyond me why NBC chose not to re run season 1 to lead into season 2. Yes it was on NBC.com, but c'mon.

Is there anyway to catch up on this show, without having to watch season one? Would I be completely lost if I tried to watch it at this point?

i bought heroes on dvd without ever seeing the show and it was the best money i've spent all summer. i'm not one to go out and buy tv shows on dvd, either.. it's just such a good series! you may not think you'll finish by monday but trust me, you'll be glued to it

And that's what ticked me off. Comon sence would have been to take Sylars head off right then & there. If Hiro didn't do it then one of the others that knew what Sylar was capable of would have been yelling at Hiro to do it.
Though the comic book showed him doing what he did rather than beheading Sylar.

One suspects that Hiro would have felt that's how he would have needed to attack Sylar because his issue of 9th Wonders said so.

i bought heroes on dvd without ever seeing the show and it was the best money i've spent all summer. i'm not one to go out and buy tv shows on dvd, either.. it's just such a good series! you may not think you'll finish by monday but trust me, you'll be glued to it

Indeed that happened to me, I never watched the show but decided to get the hd-dvd set popped in disc 1 on Sunday night and i finished it all last night, What a great show! I Can't wait til Monday!

Nathan should be dead tho ;)

How do you figure?

You can get a crash course and start at season 2, but IMO you'd be missing out on what made season 1 so good: the unfolding mystery. Starting at this point would be like watching "Empire Strikes Back" without seeing "Star Wars", or "The Two Towers" without "Fellowship..." etc. It may very well be enjoyable, but you're almost cheating yourself. It's beyond me why NBC chose not to re run season 1 to lead into season 2. Yes it was on NBC.com, but c'mon.
That is a excellent way to describe season 1 to season 2. Bravo!!!!!!!

They have explained this on all networks, these type of series have no rerun factor for the network. Especially now that cable makes a very big impact with their new offerings during the summer time. The networks try reality and few scripted shows. Which works much better for them during the summertime. Running reruns just gives cable more room to pull off upsets like The Closer did this year when it actually did end up beating the big 3 on a few nights this summer and that is only with a 6-7 mil average. Heroes when it did have the chance to repeat only averaged 6 mil.

Nathan should be dead tho ;)
there is no proof of that yet!!!!!!

Indeed that happened to me, I never watched the show but decided to get the hd-dvd set popped in disc 1 on Sunday night and i finished it all last night, What a great show! I Can't wait til Monday!
Lucky Bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!! We TV watchers had to wait 36 weeks for beginning to the end. You guys can watch it as little as one day depending on your commitment! Welcome to the Heroes family. Now you have to suffer with us, but at least we know there will be 30 Heroes(24 reg season 6 Heroes:Origins) related epidsodes. Only 6 weeks with reruns or christmas theme shows.

I got done watching the show this week as well. It took me about a week to watch it. I wish I would have watched last fall. This was an excellent show. It narrowly beat Friday Night Lights for best show of last year.

No, she was quite clear it was someone much worse than Sylar and it wasn't Linderman.Yes, it was implied there was someone else; probably who/whatever dragged Sylar away.

It seemed to me at the time that the writers had sort of written themselves into a corner. There was supposed to be this big showdown, but all we got was a big letdown.
Who ever promised a "big showdown"?

All we knew is:

1) Hiro was supposed to stab/kill Sylar
2) Someone (likely Peter, but maybe Sylar) was going to explode

That's it.

Any dreams/fantasies of some type of "X-Men" confrontation was based simply on the fact that the characters were co-located.

Frankly, I see no issues whatsoever in believing Sylar was dragged off by forces unknown while everyone was looking up watching Nathan and Peter fly off and explode.

Recall these are individuals with their own issues, not "superheroes" fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way full time.

For example, Molly worrying about Matt being shot and Claire wondering what she and her Dad are going to do now is what I'd expect.

I'm more surprised no one is wondering what happened to Hiro... yet.

Who ever promised a "big showdown"?

The writers did throughout the entire season. The whole thing was a buildup to the Sylar - Peter showdown, whether you want to believe it or not.

The writers did throughout the entire season. The whole thing was a buildup to the Sylar - Peter showdown, whether you want to believe it or not.

I agree with you here. As much as I really liked the show, I thought the season finale was actually the weakest of the season.

Second warning!!!!!! Be very cautious with NBC previews. Talk about spoilers. NBC takes the cake. I will just say that so far two of the four mysteries are shown. But since I was spoiled maybe I would ruin it for you guys. NAH, I am not that cruel. However, you guys are very good and made the predictions but unless you want to read eveything from, back maybe 20-30 pages, it would be easier just to wait till Moday.

I'm more surprised no one is wondering what happened to Hiro... yet.

Hiro is fine, he is in the past right smack in the middle of the battle of Good vs Evil. Nothing wrong here. He will get to explain his story to the anceint Heroes right before the battle that he ends up stopping. Then they will work on a way to get him back to the future. During his visit he learns more about the symbol that has plagued us for the complete first season.

Second warning!!!!!! Be very cautious with NBC previews. Talk about spoilers. NBC takes the cake. I will just say that so far two of the four mysteries are shown. But since I was spoiled maybe I would ruin it for you guys. NAH, I am not that cruel. However, you guys are very good and made the predictions but unless you want to read eveything from, back maybe 20-30 pages, it would be easier just to wait till Moday.

Actually they've revealed 3 major spoilers. Not sure what would be the 4th one, though (maybe who the big bad is? They definitely don't show anything about that)...

Actually they've revealed 3 major spoilers. Not sure what would be the 4th one, though (maybe who the big bad is? They definitely don't show anything about that)...
send me a pm with the 3 major spoilers... i have a feeling that i know but wondering if its the same info i got..

Actually they've revealed 3 major spoilers. Not sure what would be the 4th one, though (maybe who the big bad is? They definitely don't show anything about that)...
send me one too! But don't you give it away with that big bad thing?

Saying they didn't reveal a plot point brought up in the season finale isn't a spoiler. ;)

I can't wait till Monday. I love me some heroes.

How do you figure?

Well, if Nathan was carrying Peter when he exploded then it should have killed him. He has no particular immunity to Nuclear explosions that we know of. In order to avoid dying he would have had to have dropped Peter or something and gotten to 'minimum safe distance' while Peter was falling.

In the Season finale they basically insinuated that Nathan was sacrificing himself to fly Peter to a safe distance to explode. I think there was supposed to be a bit of Drama over the decision, he was finally going to be a 'hero' and make the ultimate sacrifice. I don't think most people really noticed it tho, it didn't even occur to me until I saw the episode a second time.

It was hard to not notice it. It wasn't subtle in the slightest.

That said, I think the majority of people expected Nathan to drop Peter and fly away. Guess we'll find out on Monday. ;)

maybe nathan said " f this..... peace out bro".....

maybe he got blown into the next week, which is were Heroes will start up on Monday. But really guys all jokes aside and theories, They didn't go through all that crap for him to win the election for him to die in the finale.

If he just droped Peterbomb then how would he know when to do it, no timer visible or anything. If he dropped him too soon then he would just hit the ground and go boom anyway, too late and Nathan is toast.

That's why I say Nathan should be dead. Unless they come up with some silly seriel-style bs escape maneuver (not that there is anything wrong with that).

I agree with CardiacArrest, I've been saying since the finale aired that I think Peter could have survived (no reason to think he wouldn't survive the actual explosion, and he could use Claire's healing factor to recover from the fall), but Nathan should be dead. Even if he did drop him or throw him, he would have been nuked by Peter's radiation. Of course, folks coming back from the dead (or near dead) is a comic book staple, so I'm looking forward to the explaination. Just 3 more days!

I love it when rational men discuss the plausibility of a flying man surviving the explosion of a nuclear man!! :p

If he just droped Peterbomb then how would he know when to do it

Peter could have told him when.

As others have pointed out, you're talking about a flying man surviving a radioactive exploding man. It doesn't necessarily have to be logical. ;)

I love it when rational men discuss the plausibility of a flying man surviving the explosion of a nuclear man!! :p

When did I ever claim to be a rational man?:D

I agree with CardiacArrest, I've been saying since the finale aired that I think Peter could have survived (no reason to think he wouldn't survive the actual explosion, and he could use Claire's healing factor to recover from the fall), but Nathan should be dead. Even if he did drop him or throw him, he would have been nuked by Peter's radiation. Of course, folks coming back from the dead (or near dead) is a comic book staple, so I'm looking forward to the explaination. Just 3 more days!

Maybe he can fly so fast he outflew the radiation! No, that can't be it; his skin would peel away from the wind resistance.

I know! Peter teleported the two of them away, then teleported back and exploded. Then healed real fast. Then flew back down to earth. Naked. Grabbed some duds and teleported back to get Nathan. Then came back. Yeah, that's it! :D

Given that we have a character that can make herself look like anyone (or get killed by Sylar so he can make himself look like anyone)... there's no reason why Nathan can't be dead AND Adrian Pasdar still be a regular on the show.

They could milk the "is it Nathan or someone looking like him" for a whole season really as long as chameleon girl (or Sylar) doesn't need to be in too many multiple-location plotlines.

Chameleon girl could give the illusion of flying so people thinks Nathan flew off... Sylar could do that (if he kills her) OR he can lift himself with his telekinesis (he has done this before)... so it might be a while before anyone found out unless he really does something out of character.

Those are the really "easy outs" for having Nathan still on the show.

And here's a really nasty bit of scriptwriting...

How do we know Peter really lost control? How do we know this wasn't chameleon girl making him think he was losing control AND making everyone else see it?

It would be a dirty trick... but Candace was still in the area (last seen unconscious... or was she just projecting the illusion of being unconsciousness??).

I hope they don't do that. A supervillain pretending to be a politician has already been done in the X-Men movies.

I hope they don't do that. A supervillain pretending to be a politician has already been done in the X-Men movies.

To be fair, 99% of this show has already been done in comics before.

Maybe he can fly so fast he outflew the radiation! No, that can't be it; his skin would peel away from the wind resistance.

I know! Peter teleported the two of them away, then teleported back and exploded. Then healed real fast. Then flew back down to earth. Naked. Grabbed some duds and teleported back to get Nathan. Then came back. Yeah, that's it! :D
Okay, now this is exactly the type of blatant and outrageous spoiler that should never be permitted on these threads! My Monday night has now been shot to hell as the result of this egregious act, which should not go unpunished. :rolleyes: ;)

Therefore, I respectfully request the moderator to SEVERELY admonish that offending member, and that as further punishment, such member be required to perform LAMBADA - The Forbidden Dance on this thread, as penance! :D

Given that we have a character that can make herself look like anyone (or get killed by Sylar so he can make himself look like anyone)... there's no reason why Nathan can't be dead AND Adrian Pasdar still be a regular on the show.

They could milk the "is it Nathan or someone looking like him" for a whole season really as long as chameleon girl (or Sylar) doesn't need to be in too many multiple-location plotlines.
Actually, that's not a half-bad idea, but I think it would grow kind of thin in a relatively short period of time. Oh and BTW, keep in mind that 'chameleon girl' is not a "chameleon", but rather an illusionist. ;)

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Oh and BTW, keep in mind that 'chameleon girl' is not a "chameleon", but rather an illusionist. ;)

Yeah... except if I called her illusionist girl, undoubtedly at least one person would say "who is illusionist girl?" :)

Actually.. the more I think about it, the more I like my second idea. Candace had tipped that her "normal" appearance may not be what she looks like.. but when knocked "out" by Nikki, she still looked like herself.. so that could be a "clue" that she was playing possum to setup the real illusion.

For all we know... the company plan wasn't to allow a disaster to kill innocent people, but rather to give the illusion of a disaster to permit them to take control of things...but something went wrong putting all those people together in one place.

To be fair, 99% of this show has already been done in comics before.

Yeah, and let's not add to that with this plot line.

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