I'm using this ugly thing....

http://www.amazon.com/OmniMount-Front-Projector-Ceiling-PMD1/dp/B0002IWIBE

It seems functional enough. It's a pain to get the panel connected to the projector. I'm sure there is better, but I didn't want to pay $300 for Sony's.

-James

I'm going to try and get my projector level, but what is an otherwise adjustment?
Check your manual for a keystone adjustment. If it has one, it will digitally deskew the picture. This will straighten it, but affect picture quality.

I'm using this ugly thing....

http://www.amazon.com/OmniMount-Front-Projector-Ceiling-PMD1/dp/B0002IWIBE

It seems functional enough. It's a pain to get the panel connected to the projector. I'm sure there is better, but I didn't want to pay $300 for Sony's.
I've tried designs like this and there's just too much play in the adjustments - it flops around too much. C'mon, you sprung for a $5k projector. Drop a few hundred on the right bracket! :)

There's a universal Chief (Peerless?) mount that several people around here are using the the Pearl. I think it's half the price of the official Sony mount, and highly regarded.

You should not need to use the keystone adjustment. It is not a good idea.

You really want to level the pj and use the offset.

Your pj is inverted, isn't it?

If the pj is inverted, the center of the lens should be able to be about 9 inches above top of your projected image. Since you say the screen is 7 inches from the ceiling, it sounds like you should be just fine. Straightening up the pj, and then re-adjusting the offset should be all you need to do.

Best Regards,
Doug

There's a universal Chief (Peerless?) mount that several people around here are using the the Pearl. I think it's half the price of the official Sony mount, and highly regarded.

I recommend Chief's RPA-020. The universal mount is fine, but the -020 is custom made to fit the Pearl screw pattern, and is less trouble to set up. And it looks neater.

AVS will be happy to source one for you.

So I pretty much got my geometry issues worked out by adjusting my mount but the position of the projector seems odd to me. Maybe it's normal.

In order to get the screen completely level, or even in height and width, the projector ended up being positioned higher to the ceiling on the front (lense) end as opposed to it's back end. It's might be about about an inch higher on the lense end. Look a little strange but maybe that's how it's suppose to be,

Is that normal because it's mounted upside down on the ceiling?

-James

Not normal; it should be level front to back.

Marc

So I pretty much got my geometry issues worked out by adjusting my mount but the position of the projector seems odd to me. Maybe it's normal.

In order to get the screen completely level, or even in height and width, the projector ended up being positioned higher to the ceiling on the front (lense) end as opposed to it's back end. It's might be about about an inch higher on the lense end. Look a little strange but maybe that's how it's suppose to be,

Is that normal because it's mounted upside down on the ceiling?

-James


Check that any keystoning correction is off in the projector as an inch seems rather a big difference. The lens should be perpendicular to the screen surface.

hi
anyone saw horizontal scan lines on the Pearl ? friend of mine saw them witha Rotel dvd player.
sce is DVD

hi
anyone saw horizontal scan lines on the Pearl ? friend of mine saw them witha Rotel dvd player.
sce is DVD

Nope. Source issue, bad connection, or faulty Pearl.

I do have some tearing on the bottom of the picture (let's say 10 pixels) when connected to my htpc playing 1080p24 wm9 re-encoded .ts
I use an ATI 1600Pro, I'll try with a Nvidia PC to see if it's still there ;)

some players create scan lines
i remember years ago the denon 2800 serie on several projectors

I do have some tearing on the bottom of the picture (let's say 10 pixels) when connected to my htpc playing 1080p24 wm9 re-encoded .ts
I use an ATI 1600Pro, I'll try with a Nvidia PC to see if it's still there ;)

This has been reported with external scalers (a DVDO unit I think) and I have seen it when outputting 1080p24fps via an nVidia card on my HTPC. Seems to be an unfortunate glitch with the Pearl that it cannot handle some current devices that output 1080p24fps well.

I do have some tearing on the bottom of the picture (let's say 10 pixels) when connected to my htpc playing 1080p24 wm9 re-encoded .ts
I use an ATI 1600Pro, I'll try with a Nvidia PC to see if it's still there ;)

I am not sure it's a video card issue.

I'm using an Nvidia 7900GTX.

I think it's a windows issue. I use zoomplayer and I have tried Overlay mode, and 3 different VMR9 modes.

Overlay mode shows the 10 weird pixels as you say, VMR9 Windows modes does the same, WMR9 Windowless has horrible tearing half way up the picture, can't even watch it. It doesn't seem to matter what kind of video codec is in use.

Also I moved a window around and there is no tearing at the bottom of the screen, it seems to be related to the Overlay/VMR9 renderer and not necessarily the Pearl.

I manually adjusted the timing to 24hz using the Nvidia advanced timing options control panel option.

Other than the 10 pixels in overlay mode, the picture looked slightly smoother than going 60hz.

I also use reclock 1.6. There were problems with the Nvidia Purevideo beta drivers and the refresh rate detection which are resolved with the latest WHQL drivers on Nvidia's website.

I'm going to do a more through investigation of the overlay renderers and see if there is some 3rd party one that might fix this issue. I'll report back when I can.

Maybe a Pearl HTPC thread would be useful.


-James

Check that any keystoning correction is off in the projector as an inch seems rather a big difference. The lens should be perpendicular to the screen surface.

I am pretty sure (not 100%) that I saw the keystone setting and it was set to zero.

Now I finally got it mounted the way I like it. 120" diagnol. The projector is still tilted slightly up on the lense end. Could it simply be a combination of having the projector only 3 to 4 inched off the top of the ceiling, and the amount of lens shift I am using that could cause a minor distortion?

I have also noticed a very small bowing in the picture. It looks like it bows up about 1/8" or 1/4" of in the middle of the screen. It's pretty subtle. Again could this simply be an issue of how it's mounted with the amount of lens shift? Maybe with large screen sizes this becomes apparent for any Pearl.

Have any of you actually taken a measuring tape with a straight line (say off a windows desktop window title) and seen if you have any slight bowing at all? I ask you to consider this before making a negative judgment because I didn't notice it during video playback and only when I looked at the windows desktop, actually reading this forum as a matter of fact.

-James

so anyone managed to feed the pearl at 1080p24 without the tearing effect in the bottom lines ?
if yes please specify what source you use.

so anyone managed to feed the pearl at 1080p24 without the tearing effect in the bottom lines ?
if yes please specify what source you use.

HTPC does seem to work fine, except the windows overlay/VMR9 renderers themselves have an issue.

Using the windows desktop and moving windows around did not produce the effect at all.

If you play a video and shrink the video window and move it to the top or bottom regardless, the tearing happens at the bottom of the window, and not the bottom of the screen.

In my opinion, the Pearl is working fine, and windows video rendering is borked.

I tried a game (at 24p) and there is no tearing at all (rather chunky though),so I'm satisfied the Pearl is working perfectly at 24p

-James

Can you post some pics?

I should be getting my permanent mount today and plan to have it up by the weekend. I hope I don't run into this issue as I want a perfectly square image.

I am pretty sure (not 100%) that I saw the keystone setting and it was set to zero.

Now I finally got it mounted the way I like it. 120" diagnol. The projector is still tilted slightly up on the lense end. Could it simply be a combination of having the projector only 3 to 4 inched off the top of the ceiling, and the amount of lens shift I am using that could cause a minor distortion?

I have also noticed a very small bowing in the picture. It looks like it bows up about 1/8" or 1/4" of in the middle of the screen. It's pretty subtle. Again could this simply be an issue of how it's mounted with the amount of lens shift? Maybe with large screen sizes this becomes apparent for any Pearl.

Have any of you actually taken a measuring tape with a straight line (say off a windows desktop window title) and seen if you have any slight bowing at all? I ask you to consider this before making a negative judgment because I didn't notice it during video playback and only when I looked at the windows desktop, actually reading this forum as a matter of fact.

-James

Can you post some pics?

I should be getting my permanent mount today and plan to have it up by the weekend. I hope I don't run into this issue as I want a perfectly square image.

It might take me a couple days, but I'll get on it.

I don't think it's an issue really, I mean I did get the trapezoidal shape back to a perfect square (by tipping the project up 1/.4"), and the picture seems superb. I figure I could be just anal and I'm seeing things that are not necessarily obvious. Using a large amount of lens shift, I just wonder how perfect the optics could be. It could even be my wall (which I doubt).

The Pearl is considered what, a mid-level projector? I wonder if this is just what you get at this price range. Again, picture seems pretty damn amazing to me.

My only complaint would be that in brighter scenes, that I loose some black (shadow?) detail. I notice this especially on people with black hair in light scenes. I think I have the Iris set to Auto1/Recommended.

In darker scenes, when the iris closes a little it's quite impressive how everything gets dark and you can still see so many dark shades. There is a scene in Return of the King where Gandolf is riding through the dark forest before he gets to the realm of Gondor. I have never seen so many dark shades as that before. That's compared to my DLP t.v.

-James

I don't think it's an issue really, I mean I did get the trapezoidal shape back to a perfect square (by tipping the project up 1/.4"), and the picture seems superb. I figure I could be just anal and I'm seeing things that are not necessarily obvious. Using a large amount of lens shift, I just wonder how perfect the optics could be. It could even be my wall (which I doubt).
This is verification that your out-of-square picture is caused by bad geometry. The screen must be perfectly upright and the projector must be level and firing perpendicular to the screen. If it's centered as well, no left/right lens shift is needed.

How about in mixed Dark Scenes? I noticed that on these scenes the DI introduces a pastel type effect on the picture. It looks odd, like the picture is too dark. I still haven't calibrated it yet, but that's one of my only complaints with the PQ.

It might take me a couple days, but I'll get on it.

I don't think it's an issue really, I mean I did get the trapezoidal shape back to a perfect square (by tipping the project up 1/.4"), and the picture seems superb. I figure I could be just anal and I'm seeing things that are not necessarily obvious. Using a large amount of lens shift, I just wonder how perfect the optics could be. It could even be my wall (which I doubt).

The Pearl is considered what, a mid-level projector? I wonder if this is just what you get at this price range. Again, picture seems pretty damn amazing to me.

My only complaint would be that in brighter scenes, that I loose some black (shadow?) detail. I notice this especially on people with black hair in light scenes. I think I have the Iris set to Auto1/Recommended.

In darker scenes, when the iris closes a little it's quite impressive how everything gets dark and you can still see so many dark shades. There is a scene in Return of the King where Gandolf is riding through the dark forest before he gets to the realm of Gondor. I have never seen so many dark shades as that before. That's compared to my DLP t.v.

-James

How about in mixed Dark Scenes? I noticed that on these scenes the DI introduces a pastel type effect on the picture. It looks odd, like the picture is too dark. I still haven't calibrated it yet, but that's one of my only complaints with the PQ.
You should calibrate it before complaining as it may not be there after doing so. :)

This is verification that your out-of-square picture is caused by bad geometry. The screen must be perfectly upright and the projector must be level and firing perpendicular to the screen. If it's centered as well, no left/right lens shift is needed.

I guess I better check my wall.

I guess I better check my wall.Yes, it really is a relationship. And it is easier to get it right if one starts with the screen.

I do have some tearing on the bottom of the picture (let's say 10 pixels) when connected to my htpc playing 1080p24 wm9 re-encoded .ts
I use an ATI 1600Pro, I'll try with a Nvidia PC to see if it's still there ;)

Are you sure it's tearing and not the 1088 line issue that happens with some .ts files?

If it's the 1088 line problem then there are a several free applications that will fix it.

It happens when I play a DVD scaled to 1080p24fps, so I don't think it's specifically related to .TS files.

I don't play 1088i ts files, I re-encode them first in wm9 as 720p files ;) (I remove the 8 grey lines) then resize it with ffdshow at 2560x1440, output at 1080p by my HTPC.

Any of you used the gamma correcion tool provided with the pearl ? (Image Director 2 i think)

tried to plug my HTPC to the Pearl with a Serial db9 cable but they don't talk to each other :(

I don't play 1088i ts files, I re-encode them first in wm9 as 720p files ;) (I remove the 8 grey lines) then resize it with ffdshow at 2560x1440, output at 1080p by my HTPC.

Any of you used the gamma correcion tool provided with the pearl ? (Image Director 2 i think)

tried to plug my HTPC to the Pearl with a Serial db9 cable but they don't talk to each other :(

Sorry, I must harass you. Why would you re-encode them at all?

If you leave them alone, and use a proper decoder, like Dscaler Decoder with the Inverse Teceline Hack, then you can re-create the full 1080p frames at 24fps and take full advantage of your projectors resolution. Not to mention the nifty 24hz trick the projector can do. Most HD television content in 1080i is 1080p/24 in disguise anyway.

I can understand you might be concerned about disk space, but my preference is to keep the original 1080p content in-tact and not further reduce the quality by re-compressing an already compressed image.

I might give it a try for a few movies (didn't take the time yet) but you are right, I am concerned about Disk Space ;) but I'm pretty satisfied with the ffdshow work on it.
but we are also getting off-topic :oops: ;)

As for the DB9 problem i had, i'll try with my business laptop and differents wires (easier to put it close to the Pearl than my HTPC :D). I want to know how good is this gamma correction software provided !

I made some D65 calibration and the Pearl is doing pretty good so far, just need to do some adjustments for something close to perfect, I'll post the results pics if interested.

It happens when I play a DVD scaled to 1080p24fps, so I don't think it's specifically related to .TS files.
The Pearl works fine with DVD's upconverted to 1080p24 from a DVDO VP30. It sounds like your problem is related to your computer software or hardware.

Could be. I've reverted back to 1080p60fps and that is working well.

The Pearl works fine with DVD's upconverted to 1080p24 from a DVDO VP30. It sounds like your problem is related to your computer software or hardware.
I have this problem but not on all media files and not in the windows desktop itself so I suspect windows rendering surfaces can't handle the low refresh rate in many situations.

-James

The Pearl works fine with DVD's upconverted to 1080p24 from a DVDO VP30. It sounds like your problem is related to your computer software or hardware.
When I viewed 1080p24 from a VP30, I saw tearing on the Pearl. It appeared the entire time (as long as there was any motion in the scene, of course) and was located at about 5% from the bottom of the image. However, the tearing was not visible on letterboxed 2.35:1 DVD's since the black bars appear where the tearing would be located.

Is it possible that some Pearls show tearing but others don't?
Or that some VP30's show tearing but others don't?

When I viewed 1080p24 from a VP30, I saw tearing on the Pearl. It appeared the entire time (as long as there was any motion in the scene, of course) and was located at about 5% from the bottom of the image. However, the tearing was not visible on letterboxed 2.35:1 DVD's since the black bars appear where the tearing would be located.

Is it possible that some Pearls show tearing but others don't?
Or that some VP30's show tearing but others don't?
Good questions. The Pearl that I had is now gone so I can't do any follow up on this issue.

When I viewed 1080p24 from a VP30, I saw tearing on the Pearl. It appeared the entire time (as long as there was any motion in the scene, of course) and was located at about 5% from the bottom of the image. However, the tearing was not visible on letterboxed 2.35:1 DVD's since the black bars appear where the tearing would be located.

Is it possible that some Pearls show tearing but others don't?
Or that some VP30's show tearing but others don't?

I can only comment from the HTPC side.

At 24p, some videos tear at the bottom 5% and some don't. But here is the interesting thing, if I shrink the media player and the video window is about center of the desktop, the bottom 5% of the video, inside the video window (not the bottom of the screen) still tears relative to where the video is playing on the desktop. If I move any desktop window around, it does tear, but I assume that's only because it's 24p, and it does not do it in the way video does.

I know the windows video renderers are somehow tied to the vsync of the display device, so I could be wrong and it is the Pearl that is having the issue.

One thing I did notive though, using a piece of software called Reclock (version 1.6), the Pearls actual vsync is not exactly 24p and varies between 23.987 and 24.188. And sometimes it gets reported all wierd like 38.xxx hz.

-James

Don't want to start a new thread but...

On Projection central Calculator, I needed to see if I could get a 133" screen size with a 13ft maximun throw...

Results were, 13ft throw, 133" screen, 2.6 screen gain 5% lighting which I could control and a 1.7'x zoom.

Will there be any loss in picture quality with this... I'm not sure if this is possible, anyone try anything this close w/ this big of a screen.

Don't want to start a new thread but...

On Projection central Calculator, I needed to see if I could get a 133" screen size with a 13ft maximun throw...

Results were, 13ft throw, 133" screen, 2.6 screen gain 5% lighting which I could control and a 1.7'x zoom.

Will there be any loss in picture quality with this... I'm not sure if this is possible, anyone try anything this close w/ this big of a screen.

My measurements might be a little off but I think my projector (lens to screen) is 13.5 feet, and the largest I could project was about 128" diagnol.

-James

I will be purchasing a Pearl soon along with a Da-Lite 119" High Power Screen. How far did all of you mount your projector from the screen? I'm getting ready to run the Conduit.. would around 18' from the lens to the screen be too far?

I will be purchasing a Pearl soon along with a Da-Lite 119" High Power Screen. How far did all of you mount your projector from the screen? I'm getting ready to run the Conduit.. would around 18' from the lens to the screen be too far?

Closerer is betterer for light output.

Check the projectorcentral.com distance calculator for yer screen size.

I will be purchasing a Pearl soon along with a Da-Lite 119" High Power Screen. How far did all of you mount your projector from the screen? I'm getting ready to run the Conduit.. would around 18' from the lens to the screen be too far?

I am thinking way to far personally. I have mine at ~13.5' with 120" diagnol in a perfectly dark room projecting on some Screen Goo (rated 1.4 -1.8 relfection) and I would say I wouldn't want it any dimmer in iether low or high lamp mode.

At first I thought I needed to put it way back, but at that distance, with the couch right under it, I find it to encompass the viewing area quite nicely. Can't imagine you could even resolve 1080p at 18 feet.

-James

So someone dragged me to a high end shop today where they had two new high end (over $10,000) Runco 1080p projectors and one 720p that was about $3500. Sorry I don't know model numbers, this is a fairly general comparison. On the high end 1080p, it was a real professional room that was completeley dark with the projector about 18 feet from a 100" Stewart Silverscreen.

I'm comparing this to my Pearl that is 13.5 feet from my 120" DIY Goo screen.

Now the Pearl was the first projector I ever bought because I was waiting for full HD resolution.

So what did I think? I think I'm really hapy I bought the Pearl, I really just could not see any improvement that my humble and untrained eyes could see.

I payed close attention to shadow detail, and even though the Runco was being projected on a silverscreen (mine is CRT white) I felt that my shadow detail was equal. In fact overall I preferred my configuration because I had such amazing color with the CRT white. Really the only thing that amazed me was the scaler in the Runco. It was playing a DVD fo batman begins and I was amazed how sharp it made that cruddy DVD resolution look. Personally I have a lot of 1080p material from various movie channels I watch.

I have to say, Sony really hit the nail on this projector. Sure it's not a Xenon bulb and it can't be 100% perfect, but wow... I did not see paying $10,000 or $15,000 for a projector compared to the Pearl. Sure the runco's probably have a bit better color gamut, and a longer throw, but damn, I am really impressed with the pearl now. Pearl was right up there with shadow detail no question. Also the Pearl was definitely superior in color reproduction (specifically green) than the $3500 Runco, which I assume is to be expected. I used part of Episode 3 of Star Wars with all the green control panels in the failing cruiser at the beginning for this comparison. As for pixel structure, clear advantage to the Pearl. had to stand twice as far from the Runco image so I could not see the pixel structure. When people say the Pearl is film like, it's not to be underestimated, it really is quite noticeable.

Again I know it's not really a scientific comparison, but with the settings I got off this thread, for my Pearl and my CRT white screen, I can't see much if any improvement the Runco should have. I'm sure there must be reasons it's better but overall this Pearl is amazing value.

I expected to see some huge improvement in blacks with the Silverscreen but I just couldn't see anything that really jumped out at me, and the brighter colors appeared muted. Again I was really wanting to see how this Silverscreen made some huge improvement on darks but I wasn't seeing it. I have a completely dark room and I'm glad now I went for the white, it looks so much richer. The positive thing I can say about the silverscreen is had had more of a RPTV look to it. I think I may consider getting a light gray or white Stewart screen. Just not seeing the big wow factor with the silver screen here.

Congratulations everyone, I think you jumped on the 1080p bandwagon at a good time.

-James

So someone dragged me to a high end shop today where they had two new high end (over $10,000) Runco 1080p projectors and one 720p that was about $3500. Sorry I don't know model numbers, this is a fairly general comparison. On the high end 1080p, it was a real professional room that was completeley dark with the projector about 18 feet from a 100" Stewart Silverscreen.

I'm comparing this to my Pearl that is 13.5 feet from my 120" DIY Goo screen.

Now the Pearl was the first projector I ever bought because I was waiting for full HD resolution.

So what did I think? I think I'm really hapy I bought the Pearl, I really just could not see any improvement that my humble and untrained eyes could see.

I payed close attention to shadow detail, and even though the Runco was being projected on a silverscreen (mine is CRT white) I felt that my shadow detail was equal. In fact overall I preferred my configuration because I had such amazing color with the CRT white. Really the only thing that amazed me was the scaler in the Runco. It was playing a DVD fo batman begins and I was amazed how sharp it made that cruddy DVD resolution look. Personally I have a lot of 1080p material from various movie channels I watch.

I have to say, Sony really hit the nail on this projector. Sure it's not a Xenon bulb and it can't be 100% perfect, but wow... I did not see paying $10,000 or $15,000 for a projector compared to the Pearl. Sure the runco's probably have a bit better color gamut, and a longer throw, but damn, I am really impressed with the pearl now. Pearl was right up there with shadow detail no question. Also the Pearl was definitely superior in color reproduction (specifically green) than the $3500 Runco, which I assume is to be expected. I used part of Episode 3 of Star Wars with all the green control panels in the failing cruiser at the beginning for this comparison. As for pixel structure, clear advantage to the Pearl. had to stand twice as far from the Runco image so I could not see the pixel structure. When people say the Pearl is film like, it's not to be underestimated, it really is quite noticeable.

Again I know it's not really a scientific comparison, but with the settings I got off this thread, for my Pearl and my CRT white screen, I can't see much if any improvement the Runco should have. I'm sure there must be reasons it's better but overall this Pearl is amazing value.

I expected to see some huge improvement in blacks with the Silverscreen but I just couldn't see anything that really jumped out at me, and the brighter colors appeared muted. Again I was really wanting to see how this Silverscreen made some huge improvement on darks but I wasn't seeing it. I have a completely dark room and I'm glad now I went for the white, it looks so much richer. The positive thing I can say about the silverscreen is had had more of a RPTV look to it. I think I may consider getting a light gray or white Stewart screen. Just not seeing the big wow factor with the silver screen here.

Congratulations everyone, I think you jumped on the 1080p bandwagon at a good time.

-James
I know there are some differences, mainly in light output and sharpness/clarity of 1080 images, between Pearl and other high-end front projectors priced at MULTIPLES of the Pearl, but I can't see how the HUGE price differential can continue. I also can't see how competitors didn't have absolutely frenzied meetings on how they were going to respond to the Pearl.

Just my $.02.

I know there are some differences, mainly in light output and sharpness/clarity of 1080 images, between Pearl and other high-end front projectors priced at MULTIPLES of the Pearl, but I can't see how the HUGE price differential can continue.

Same way they can sell $5,000 powercords ;)

Same way they can sell $5,000 powercords ;)
That would have been topic one at those frenzied meetings: Are we in danger of losing our Testarossas? ;)

Anyone in here using HTPC and Reclock? At first it seems to work, then subsequent times I play any movie, relock freaks out and reports all kinds of random Vsyncs like -18.000 and -66.000 etc.

I used powerstrip to force 24hz. I'm using the previous WHQL nvidia drivers with a 7900GTX and a completely patched Windows SP2. Using a DVI to HDMI adapter directly to the projector.

When I reboot, it detects 24hz for a while and then freaks out again.

I have a 50' 1080p HDMI cable but there has never been any video degration or pixel noise or anything that would indicate the cable is bad. Picture looks perfect.

Reclock I tried was 1.6, and 1.7. Doesn't seem to matter ether I use Overlay, or VRM9 mode.

-James

Is this film Mode available when using HDMI at 1080i? I'm getting comcast, and a PVR. Someone earlier said that Film Mode works wonders on 1080i, but I've never seen an option for it anywhere. Currently I'm just using 1080p/60 from an HTPC, but when I get my comcast box, I hope I could use this film mode with the Comcast box the outputs 1080i over HDMI.

-James

Anyone in here using HTPC and Reclock? At first it seems to work, then subsequent times I play any movie, relock freaks out and reports all kinds of random Vsyncs like -18.000 and -66.000 etc.

I used powerstrip to force 24hz. I'm using the previous WHQL nvidia drivers with a 7900GTX and a completely patched Windows SP2. Using a DVI to HDMI adapter directly to the projector.

When I reboot, it detects 24hz for a while and then freaks out again.

I have a 50' 1080p HDMI cable but there has never been any video degration or pixel noise or anything that would indicate the cable is bad. Picture looks perfect.

Reclock I tried was 1.6, and 1.7. Doesn't seem to matter ether I use Overlay, or VRM9 mode.

-James
This is way OT on this thread. You should probably post on HTPC.

Is this film Mode available when using HDMI at 1080i? I'm getting comcast, and a PVR. Someone earlier said that Film Mode works wonders on 1080i, but I've never seen an option for it anywhere. Currently I'm just using 1080p/60 from an HTPC, but when I get my comcast box, I hope I could use this film mode with the Comcast box the outputs 1080i over HDMI.

-James

Film mode options appear in the Pearl menu when feeding the projector an interlaced signal. That is why you don't see it when feeding it 1080p, but will see the option when feeding it 1080i.

Film mode options appear in the Pearl menu when feeding the projector an interlaced signal. That is why you don't see it when feeding it 1080p, but will see the option when feeding it 1080i.

No response in HTPC. Others in this thread mentioned using Reclock. So this is the thread with the most relevence to try and find someone with this combination, i.e., a pearl etc. to ask about this.

But just so you know, I did try HTPC first.

-James

No response in HTPC. Others in this thread mentioned using Reclock. So this is the thread with the most relevence to try and find someone with this combination, i.e., a pearl etc. to ask about this.

But just so you know, I did try HTPC first.

-James
After I posted, I searched for other posts by you and saw that it went unanswered. That's a bit puzzling. Did nathan_h's post help you?

Film mode options appear in the Pearl menu when feeding the projector an interlaced signal. That is why you don't see it when feeding it 1080p, but will see the option when feeding it 1080i.

Just to be clear, Interlaced over HDMI correct? Probably sounds like a stupid question...

-James

After I posted, I searched for other posts by you and saw that it went unanswered. That's a bit puzzling. Did nathan_h's post help you?

I think Nathan pretty much answered the Film Mode question.

I think I might have to search this thread and PM everyone who mentioned ReClock about what configuration they are using to see if I can remove any unknown elements from the equation.

-James

Quick Question?

Thinking of ordering a Pearl this week, local dealer will give me a decent trade in for my HS51, price comes out to $3500 bucks with trade, this would seem to be a great deal. Just not sure what the street price is, I try never to buy retail... I was at dealer over launch today and saw Star Wars III in HD via Dish, and was blow away.... I sat in awe..........

Street prices? Google is your friend.

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Reclock? Didn't solve any of my issues. But sticking w/ 1080p60 appears to be the safest bet. Note that this is with a 6600LE card. I'm upgrading to a 7600GT this week. I don't think this will make a big difference, but we'll see.

Hell doing a Google search brings up a lot of reviews and 5K price tags... Most dealers don't seem to be budging on price...

Hell doing a Google search brings up a lot of reviews and 5K price tags... Most dealers don't seem to be budging on price...
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Quick Question?

Thinking of ordering a Pearl this week, local dealer will give me a decent trade in for my HS51, price comes out to $3500 bucks with trade, this would seem to be a great deal. Just not sure what the street price is, I try never to buy retail... I was at dealer over launch today and saw Star Wars III in HD via Dish, and was blow away.... I sat in awe..........

Episode 3 on HD cable was hands down the best PQ I had seen on my Pearl... and that remained true until I saw my first HD-DVD, King Kong. That thing was on a whole different level.

I should have stated in my last post please PM me if you know a decent dealer, looking to trade or just looking for a great price on the Pearl. I just put up my HS51 for sale and I will see if I have any takers, considering it only has 700 hours on it I would hope to get a fair price.

pepar: Will do....

gremmy: I just saw a demo of Superman on both formats, one on a PS3 the other on the new Toshiba, and there was another review online reviewing both of these, but stunning and you could not tell the difference. Seems Blu-Ray is finally getting there masters done right, or they are getting better players to the market now.

Hi guys, I don't know if we talked about it on this thread or another but I managed to video capture the tearing I noticed on the bottom of the picture when the pearl is hooked up to my HTPC (x1600pro) with HDMI at 1080@24p.

Reducing the ZP window make the tearing diseappear so I was wondering if it doesn't come from the Pearl treatment ?
I'll try to test it with a Nvidia GPU equipped HTPC to see if it changes anything ...

do you think you guys could try some tests too pls ?

link : http://ofi.9online.fr/MOV00466.mpg

Yep, that's what 24fps looks like on my Pearl too, during motion scenes.

do you use a HTPC too ? what graphic card ?

nVidia 6600 LE

Will be upgrading to the 7800 GT in the near future, I think, though I should probably get an HDCP compliant card, for future-proofing the machine.

anyone stating that tearing effect using a scaler ?

ATM X1600 HDMI seems to be a nice card thats HDCP compliant not sure of any others... atm..

Anyone hear about the new JVC R1 everyone has been raving about? Was over at that thread and I mentioned something about the noise level of the fan in there specs and the few people thought I called there baby ugly. ;) LOL Seems a few people over there are a tad touchy, I am not sure if waiting for this projector is going to yeild a much greater PQ at a cost of $2500 more. I just haven't had good luck with JVC, as I am sure the same goes for some people about Sony. There are a few people that have seen it, most haven't and they are ordering off of specs and limited reviews, not sure if I should fence sit till CES is over or try to buy a Pearl now at a decent price or wait on the JVC......

I am not sure if waiting for this projector is going to yeild a much greater PQ at a cost of $2500 more.

The price difference is nowhere near $2500.

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kanefsky: Then that is good news...... JVC doesn't discount and usually sticks right at there retail price which most dealers tend to follow. Now this is coming from a guy I know that is a JVC dealer, so hopefully you are correct.

If you happened to be one of the many who got in on the preorder deal, the Pearl and RS1 were so close in price that price was a non factor for a lot of people. That was how close they were in price.

Donnerhead: A preorder on the RS1? This thing isn't being released till Feb. if memory serves me right. I sure am not going to preorder and or think of buying a unit till I see it in person, too much money on hand to take a risk.... The Pearl I have seen several times now, and each time I am very impressed.

Saw both the Pearl and RS1 prototype at Cedia. Both looked incredible, but the RS1 had a little something extra :) Enough so that I was trying to figure out how to save more to get it over the Pearl, even at the $7000 it was going to come in at. When the preorder price hit, it was a no brainer :)

I do agree with you though. If I had not experienced what I did, I would be skeptical as well.

i had been seriously considering the Pearl (to replace my Marantz S3); but ultimately decided to get on the RS1 preorder list.

then a Pearl kinda dropped into my lap. i picked it up last Sunday and have been enjoying it since. i also ordered the Crystalio II video processor, which arrived Wednesday. i did a minimal set-up on the Pearl......pretty much plug and play. the Pearl was very impressive right out of the box. Wednesday night i inserted the C2 into the chain and everything got better; sharper, punchier and simply more refined. the C2 was easy for me (mostly a novice) to figure out and has the most intuative and easy to navigate interface i've ever seen on something this sophisticated.

anyway; the Pearl/C2 combo, with minimal adjustment, is pretty damn good.

last night my ISCO III lens arrived; and next week i'll have my da-lite 1.5 115" x 49" 2:35-1 screen with mechanized masking for CH. hopefully Tryg will figure out a mounting system for the lens soon.

my plan is to purchase the RSI when the preorder ships and compare them side by side.

Nice setup you got going Mike! Look forward to the Pearl/RS1 head to head :)

anyone stating that tearing effect using a scaler ?

One person has reported this, but others have used a scaler outputting 1080p24fps and don't see tearing.

Nice setup you got going Mike! Look forward to the Pearl/RS1 head to head :)

thanks.

hopefully i can get Tryg and darinp2 over here (they are both local) when i get the RS1 to make sure i'm doing it right (and maybe darin can tweak things a bit ;) ).

mike lavigne: we will need to see pics of course. I might hold off on my HS51 sale and wait till after CES before I make my final choice. After seeing the Sony Pearl, I must say I could be very happy with that puppy for along time. JVC just scares me, because I have had issues with QC with many other products, just hope there FPs are put together better. I heard they are trying to keep the price low to compete with other manufactuers, like Sony etc... If you look at the street price of the Pearl 3800-3900 and compare that to the R1, it better be a ton better if it is a lot more expensive. Granted I have a room that doesn't need to burn the image in to your retina ;) LOL Brighter isn't always better, but it sounds like the R1 does a lot of things right, so some say....

One person has reported this, but others have used a scaler outputting 1080p24fps and don't see tearing.

Is there a list of scalers that will output 24fps?

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Huh?

You forgot the monst important thing too, the size of the beast involved. At least if my mount fails on the digital my head hurts a lot. With the marquee you die instantly.

I think you may die too if a 24lbs Pearl drop 6' from the ceiling directly on your head! The Pearl is quite heavy in it's price range among digital projectors! :D

Just trying to read up old Pearl thread! :)

regards,

Li On