For yoiur default recordings you are looking for the Record Plus option which can be found under preferences. Enable it and set it to TV2. This when you have something scheduled to record it will default to TV2 and still allow you to view another program on TV1.

In Single mode Record Plus is disabled since both tuners are being used for TV1. You can still turn on shared view which will show the same program on TV1 and TV2.

Primetimeguy,

You have been a big help, so I figured I would throw another at you.

In the above conversation, my question is this: Currently with the TWC DVR, I can set up to record multiple shows in the same time slot in HD. Can I do it with DISH? Is there an easier way than that whole TV1-TV2 thing?

Thanks again!

As described above you can set the default recording tuner to TV2. However then you can set a second recording in the same time slot and the 622 will realize the TV2 tuner will be already in use and use the TV1 tuner for the second recording. You can actually record a third thing using the OTA tuner. This is done by simply selecting an OTA channel for recording. (It displays as TV1 tuner which is confusing sometimes).

As a further note both TVs can be watching different and separate previously recorded shows while the three shows are recording.

Pretty neat actually.

Rick R

Primetimeguy,

You have been a big help, so I figured I would throw another at you.

In the above conversation, my question is this: Currently with the TWC DVR, I can set up to record multiple shows in the same time slot in HD. Can I do it with DISH? Is there an easier way than that whole TV1-TV2 thing?

Thanks again!

Rick_R pretty much answered it. Just to clarify, all Record Plus does is set the default TV (tuner) to record to. If you set it to TV2 any time you have only one satellite program scheduled to record at a given time it will use TV2. If you then add a second recording at the same time it goes to TV1.

And as Rick_R said, you can record a third program using the OTA tuner and be recording 3 at once.

Rick_R pretty much answered it. Just to clarify, all Record Plus does is set the default TV (tuner) to record to. If you set it to TV2 any time you have only one satellite program scheduled to record at a given time it will use TV2. If you then add a second recording at the same time it goes to TV1.

And as Rick_R said, you can record a third program using the OTA tuner and be recording 3 at once.


Thanks Rick and PrimeTime Guy. I was thinking about getting an antenna to run for the OTA so I can get Smallville in HD.

One last thing, how many cables would they have to run into the house, just 1, correct? I thought I read that earlier in your discussions.

Thanks again for all the info. TWC/COMCAST is getting ridiculous here in H-Town. Will probably make the switch soon.

Yes, only 1 cable required into each receiver.

Yes, only 1 cable required into each receiver.

So 2 cables into the house then, or just one dish, one cable?

So 2 cables into the house then, or just one dish, one cable?

I don't recall how many receivers you were looking at. You need 1 cable from the Dish to each receiver.

I don't recall how many receivers you were looking at. You need 1 cable from the Dish to each receiver.

2 receivers, so 2 cables. Ok, thanks. :)

After reading through this thread, I am confused. Can the 622 record 2 HD feeds without the OTA feed? If I want to have HD on multiple TVs in the house, I have to rent another HD receiver, correct?

Thanks. Getting closer to run to the hills away from Concast.

The 622 (if I'm remembering correctly) can record on EACH of its tuners simultaneously. If you are recording both HD tuners and want to watch TV, you'd have to either watch what one of the tuners is recording OR switch to OTA and watch that OR you can watch a previously recorded program while both of the tuners are recording new ones. I wasn't even considering recording off the OTA as well when I looked into this as I didn't have an antenna at the time. Recording from all 3 at once sounds interesting.

The VIP622 puts out only ONE HD feed. The "second TV" feed is over coax and would not be HD. So if you want HD on 2 TVs, then you would need to get an HD receiver for the second TV.

You sound like you're in about the same situation as me, except that I have a (non-HD) dual tuner DVR in the living room and a second (single tuner) DVR in the bedroom. The living room DVR is set to single mode. There is no second TV connected. The disadvantage of this system is that if I record something in the living room I can't watch it in the bedroom :) They'll SELL me a second VIP622 for $549... (yippeee, but no thanks). There is SUPPOSED to be a VIP612. It's a dual tuner like the VIP622 but single output. Made for one TV. They've announced it several times and I saw it in the 2007 catalog, but it apparently doesn't exist as nobody can get one. It would be less expensive than the 622 and would solve MY problem. I need the second DVR, not just a receiver.

The 622 (if I'm remembering correctly) can record on EACH of its tuners simultaneously. If you are recording both HD tuners and want to watch TV, you'd have to either watch what one of the tuners is recording OR switch to OTA and watch that OR you can watch a previously recorded program while both of the tuners are recording new ones. I wasn't even considering recording off the OTA as well when I looked into this as I didn't have an antenna at the time. Recording from all 3 at once sounds interesting.

The VIP622 puts out only ONE HD feed. The "second TV" feed is over coax and would not be HD. So if you want HD on 2 TVs, then you would need to get an HD receiver for the second TV.

You sound like you're in about the same situation as me, except that I have a (non-HD) dual tuner DVR in the living room and a second (single tuner) DVR in the bedroom. The living room DVR is set to single mode. There is no second TV connected. The disadvantage of this system is that if I record something in the living room I can't watch it in the bedroom :) They'll SELL me a second VIP622 for $549... (yippeee, but no thanks). There is SUPPOSED to be a VIP612. It's a dual tuner like the VIP622 but single output. Made for one TV. They've announced it several times and I saw it in the 2007 catalog, but it apparently doesn't exist as nobody can get one. It would be less expensive than the 622 and would solve MY problem. I need the second DVR, not just a receiver.

Thanks for the input. So if I hear you correctly, I can still record 2 HD programs and watch a third, similar to my current SA8300HD box from Concast? Since I have an HD downstairs, I need to decided what to do, but I am really leaning to having an extra receiver as I do now. All in all, still cheaper than the nickel and dime that Concast is doing since taking over the Houston market.

Hi all, I just had my dish installed last weekend. Awsome HD feed btw. But I have some questions that I hope someone can answer: I am only getting around 50 signal strength for satellite 110. Is that kinda low? Also, I would like to add an OTA antenna to watch HD channels. I am looking at 2 kinds of antennas: the big traditional ones and the small panel ones that's attached to the existing dish. I am not sure which one is best for me. I just wanna watch local HD OTA channels. Thanks in advance!

Hi all, I just had my dish installed last weekend. Awsome HD feed btw. But I have some questions that I hope someone can answer: I am only getting around 50 signal strength for satellite 110. Is that kinda low? Also, I would like to add an OTA antenna to watch HD channels. I am looking at 2 kinds of antennas: the big traditional ones and the small panel ones that's attached to the existing dish. I am not sure which one is best for me. I just wanna watch local HD OTA channels. Thanks in advance!
Yes 50% signal strength is very low. However it depends on the transponder. Some are very strong and some are very weak. Check several transponders and the best ones should be 80% to 120%.

My advice is to not use the antennas that clip on to the dish. They are omnidirectional and will get you lots of multipath problems. Get a traditional antenna. If looks is an issue you can get the Winegard SS-1000, which is a disguised antenna. It works good but is kind of expensive.

Rick R

Hi Guys, been a DISH customer for a few months now, moved over from DTV, because DISH offered more HD channels, and I enjoy most of them. Just upgraded
to the VIP622 a few days ago. Having some issues tryign to record my local Vegas
OTA HD channels. I set it sunday to record 3 FOX shows, but it recorded them
in SD, NOT HD. I set up scheduled recordings, and chose what i thought was the OTA feed.

After this error, i went into the program guide, and scrolled over to '24', and set
it to record manually, and it DID record in HD.

Anyone know what i'm doing wrong? Can i set up OTA channels to record, like a
season pass? Or do i need to manually set them up, via the program guide each time?

thanks,

Win

Hi Guys, been a DISH customer for a few months now, moved over from DTV, because DISH offered more HD channels, and I enjoy most of them. Just upgraded
to the VIP622 a few days ago. Having some issues tryign to record my local Vegas
OTA HD channels. I set it sunday to record 3 FOX shows, but it recorded them
in SD, NOT HD. I set up scheduled recordings, and chose what i thought was the OTA feed.

After this error, i went into the program guide, and scrolled over to '24', and set
it to record manually, and it DID record in HD.

Anyone know what i'm doing wrong? Can i set up OTA channels to record, like a
season pass? Or do i need to manually set them up, via the program guide each time?

thanks,

Win

Are you sure the programs you set to record were broadcast in HD? OTA locals will show up xx-01 and the Dish local channel will be xx-00.

Well, it was The Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad, perhaps they werent HD.
But last nite I was able to record '24' manually, but 'Heroes' didnt record in HD. When i
go to MENU, THEMES&SEARCH, then do a keyword search for say 'Veronica Mars', i get the following listings....033-00 KVCW, which equates to my local over the air CW affiliate. I also see channel 9039 KVCW, which I assume is the local provided over the sat dish.

Well, it was The Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad, perhaps they werent HD.

Nope, those are not HD.


But last nite I was able to record '24' manually, but 'Heroes' didnt record in HD. When i
go to MENU, THEMES&SEARCH, then do a keyword search for say 'Veronica Mars', i get the following listings....033-00 KVCW, which equates to my local over the air CW affiliate. I also see channel 9039 KVCW, which I assume is the local provided over the sat dish.

033-00 and 9039 are the same channel. 9039 is just mapped down to 33 since most people know there local stations by channel number. You may have a KVCW in SD and HD as well (maybe another channel with these call letters in higher channel numbers).

Thanks, but i wonder why HEROES didnt record in HD, when it was brodcast in HD. Trying
Veronica Mars now, hopefully that works.

Win

I currently lease two Dish SD receivers - one dual and one single receiver (3 TVs). I'm going to be getting a new HDTV and will be upgrading to the HD package. 2 of my 4 TVs will be HDTVs, so I'm thinking that I should get two 622 receivers.

Does anyone know how much they'll charge me for two 622s, compared to if I only got one 622 and stayed with my other dual SD receiver? I'll have an OTA antenna, so it's not absolutely critical that I have lots of HD options on my second HDTV (if it's cost prohibitive).

Thanks.

I currently lease two Dish SD receivers - one dual and one single receiver (3 TVs). I'm going to be getting a new HDTV and will be upgrading to the HD package. 2 of my 4 TVs will be HDTVs, so I'm thinking that I should get two 622 receivers.

Does anyone know how much they'll charge me for two 622s, compared to if I only got one 622 and stayed with my other dual SD receiver? I'll have an OTA antenna, so it's not absolutely critical that I have lots of HD options on my second HDTV (if it's cost prohibitive).

Thanks.

Dish usually does not lease more than one 622. I have seen situations for long time subscribers where they let people lease two, but those are few and far between. You'd need to purchase the second one for about $500.

The 622 dual only outputs HD to one receiver. I have two flat panels around 20 feet from one another that I would like to receive HD programming. I would prefer a wireless solution.
Currently HD goes to one and we're satisfied with it... and we've back fed RF signal to the other (installers took this appraoch, I'm not satified) . How can I get the same quality picture sent to the second flat panel? I have no problem with the second screen showing the same content as the first.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

The 622 dual only outputs HD to one receiver. I have two flat panels around 20 feet from one another that I would like to receive HD programming. I would prefer a wireless solution.
Currently HD goes to one and we're satisfied with it... and we've back fed RF signal to the other (installers took this appraoch, I'm not satified) . How can I get the same quality picture sent to the second flat panel? I have no problem with the second screen showing the same content as the first.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

The HDMI and component outputs on the 622 are active at the same time, so connect one to each of the displays. Both displays will show the same channel.

The HDMI and component outputs on the 622 are active at the same time, so connect one to each of the displays. Both displays will show the same channel.

That is pretty sweet. Weird to see both of them active at once. :D

primetimeguy stated:
The HDMI and component outputs on the 622 are active at the same time, so connect one to each of the displays. Both displays will show the same channel.

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The two flat panels are not in proximity. One is on the wall in the family room and the other is on a wall in the dinette area. Is there anyway that you know of to transfer the component output and audio wirelessly? Wife would not be happy to see cables everywhere.

Gefen and Avocent make wireless extenders for both HDMI and Component Video:
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/wireless-video.html
Google: "wireless HDMI extender" and "wireless component video extender"

If you search Google, you'll find various other companies also make HDMI and C.V.
"extenders" (e.g. coax and Cat-5 cable) for HDMI and C.V. (aka "video baluns"):
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/video-extension.html

A lot of people using antenna for OTA HD locals. In my area (Portland) I receive the locals from Dish, but still keep my antenna to get some HD locals not available from the bird like PBS and CW and also, just because the PQ is better.

Is the PQ significantly better with the OTA antenna?? If you switch between a HD channel on OTA and the same HD channel thru Dish how much better is the PQ on OTA?? I am guessing that would be a great test of Dish signal compression. I live in a rural area and cannot Dish Local HD's and cannot get OTA since my house is also in a deep valley. All my HD with Dish is VERY dissapointing due to the compression.

Is the PQ significantly better with the OTA antenna?? If you switch between a HD channel on OTA and the same HD channel thru Dish how much better is the PQ on OTA?? I am guessing that would be a great test of Dish signal compression. I live in a rural area and cannot Dish Local HD's and cannot get OTA since my house is also in a deep valley. All my HD with Dish is VERY dissapointing due to the compression.

I also only have OTA, which has a great PQ. Anyone heard any announcements from DISH about when they are adding more HDTV local markets? I live in the Grand Rapids, MI market (I think the 47th largest TV market in the country). DIRECT TV now has HDTV locals in this market, but I've heard nothing from DISH for months about more markets being added.

I'd love to be able to do the comparison!

Mark

Hey guys, after buying a new house in the next town over i transferred my comcast over to my new address, sadly this town is using the equipment my last address used 2-3yrs ago and all the menus and stuff remind me of the first glimpses of digital tv.

Anyway...I just signed up for dish network after debating between them ad Directv. In then the end they both seem to have horrible customer service but Dishnetwork has superior equipment and channel lineups.

Im getting the VIP 622 HD DVR setup and i would really love some screen shots of the menus and such, or if you know where to find and in depth review of how dish networks menu system is with the box.

Ive seen a couple of shots but im not sure if its what im going to get.

Also i do not have a home phone line and they said i would be charged probably $5 extra a month since they cant connect to the box. They said all regular features and channels will be available but some of the extras will not.

What are the extras?..(ppv and such?), Anyway i can hook my cell phone up to it for updates?

Thanks!

I am new to the forum, does the receiver needs to be attached to a recording device, or is there a recording device already built in on the Dish Network VIP622??

I have Sony RM-AV3000 universal remote and I'm trying to program the VIP622 to it but not sure how to do this. Can anyone provide some information on this?

Thanks.

I am new to the forum, does the receiver needs to be attached to a recording device, or is there a recording device already built in on the Dish Network VIP622??

There is DVR built into VIP622. It has dual tunner so you can record and watch another channel at the same time.

Hey guys, after buying a new house in the next town over i transferred my comcast over to my new address, sadly this town is using the equipment my last address used 2-3yrs ago and all the menus and stuff remind me of the first glimpses of digital tv.

Anyway...I just signed up for dish network after debating between them ad Directv. In then the end they both seem to have horrible customer service but Dishnetwork has superior equipment and channel lineups.

Im getting the VIP 622 HD DVR setup and i would really love some screen shots of the menus and such, or if you know where to find and in depth review of how dish networks menu system is with the box.

Ive seen a couple of shots but im not sure if its what im going to get.

Also i do not have a home phone line and they said i would be charged probably $5 extra a month since they cant connect to the box. They said all regular features and channels will be available but some of the extras will not.

What are the extras?..(ppv and such?), Anyway i can hook my cell phone up to it for updates?

Thanks!

also in addition to this question...When people say "upgrade to OTA" i know its over the air but isnt satellite just that?. Ive been hearing alot about upgrading from "HD LITE" which satellite pretty much offers and people upgrading to OTA HD for a true HD signal.

Explain please :)

Has anyone else had an issue programming the remote to control their Home Theater System?? I hate having to use two different remotes just to change the volume level.

I have HDMI from my VIP622 to my Samsung LN-T4066F TV. Optical Audio Output from the TV to my Samsung HTiB. Is this wrong? I have HDMI IN and OUT on my HTiB but I don't get the best audio quality when I do that and I still have to use two remotes.

Is their a way to set this up so that I can control the volume level of my HTiB using the VIP622 Remote that is programmed to my TV?

Has anyone else had an issue programming the remote to control their Home Theater System?? I hate having to use two different remotes just to change the volume level.

I have HDMI from my VIP622 to my Samsung LN-T4066F TV. Optical Audio Output from the TV to my Samsung HTiB. Is this wrong? I have HDMI IN and OUT on my HTiB but I don't get the best audio quality when I do that and I still have to use two remotes.

Is their a way to set this up so that I can control the volume level of my HTiB using the VIP622 Remote that is programmed to my TV?

Just get a Logitech Harmony remote my friend and all will be fixed for now and any future items you buy. :)

I also only have OTA, which has a great PQ. Anyone heard any announcements from DISH about when they are adding more HDTV local markets? I live in the Grand Rapids, MI market (I think the 47th largest TV market in the country). DIRECT TV now has HDTV locals in this market, but I've heard nothing from DISH for months about more markets being added.

I'd love to be able to do the comparison!

Mark
The Echostar annual report says that they will have HD locals in 50% of nation by the end of 2007. I take this to mean that they are planning to add some additional markets by the end of the year.

Rick R

Could someone please explain this over the air HD stuff to me, Is this seperate from regular dish network service or something extra, I ordered a few days ago and it said that locals were available in HD in my area.

Could someone please explain this over the air HD stuff to me, Is this seperate from regular dish network service or something extra, I ordered a few days ago and it said that locals were available in HD in my area.

Over the air is just using an antenna to receive non-compressed versions of the locals transmitted on Dish. The quality is usually better, with the proper equipment, because the signals come directly from the TV stations themselves, through the air, in uncompressed form. Sat and Cable have to compress signals for bandwith purposes.

Clear as mud?

If you check which local HD channels are broadcast via DISH, you'll see they are missing some,
typically PBS-HD, CW-HD and MNT-HD. Hence another reason to also use an OTA Antenna.

How do i get these OTA signals then???

Thanks!

It's called a TV ANTENNA.....which plugs into the "TV ANTENNA/CABLE IN"
port on Dish HD-DVRs.

The size and location of the TV Antenna depends on your location.
Strong signals can be picked up with an indoor antenna while weaker signals
require a bigger antenna in the attic or on the roof....

Suggest your start at www.antennaweb.org and www.tvfool.com

Then you can see what other people in your area are using in your
LOCAL HDTV RECEPTION THREAD:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=45
Start with UNITED STATES THREAD INDEX.

Further info is in the AVS ANTENNA THREAD:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10676812#post10676812

I also only have OTA, which has a great PQ. Anyone heard any announcements from DISH about when they are adding more HDTV local markets? I live in the Grand Rapids, MI market (I think the 47th largest TV market in the country). DIRECT TV now has HDTV locals in this market, but I've heard nothing from DISH for months about more markets being added.

I'd love to be able to do the comparison!

Mark
These websites maintains current info re Dish channel assignments including HD-LIL:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/forumdisplay.php?f=10
http://satelliteguys.us/bfg/locals.htm
there's the (somewhat out of date) comparison you're looking for....and also:
http://ekb.dbstalk.com/listlogs.htm
http://ekb.dbstalk.com/hdlocal.htm

The latter has a link to 5May2007 "Charlie Address" at Dishnet Team Summit:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=96083
With lots of info re upcoming features (750 GB External HDD) and new receivers
and near term HD-LIL additions:

Anchorage, AL 6/7
Juneau, AL 6/7
Fairbanks, AL 6/7
Honolulu, HI 6/7
Birmingham, AL - This Summer
Oklahoma, OK - This Summer
Wilmington, ND in SD this Summer

By the END of this year, two new satellites will be launched so that
ALL current SD channels will be MPEG4, with fol. capabilities:
200 LIL Cities in Standard Definition [Note: There are 210 DMA's total.]
HD Locals to 100 Cities [Note: First 100 DMA's represent about 89% of TV Households.]
200 National HD Channels
1000 Standard Definition Channels
200 International Channels.

Hey guys, after buying a new house in the next town over i transferred my comcast over to my new address, sadly this town is using the equipment my last address used 2-3yrs ago and all the menus and stuff remind me of the first glimpses of digital tv.

Anyway...I just signed up for dish network after debating between them ad Directv. In then the end they both seem to have horrible customer service but Dishnetwork has superior equipment and channel lineups.

Im getting the VIP 622 HD DVR setup and i would really love some screen shots of the menus and such, or if you know where to find and in depth review of how dish networks menu system is with the box.

Ive seen a couple of shots but im not sure if its what im going to get.

Also i do not have a home phone line and they said i would be charged probably $5 extra a month since they cant connect to the box. They said all regular features and channels will be available but some of the extras will not.

What are the extras?..(ppv and such?), Anyway i can hook my cell phone up to it for updates?

Thanks!
Dish 622 Brochure, On-Line Demo and links to various magazine reviews are here:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dvr_receivers/index.shtml
http://www.dishnetwork.com/downloads/pdf/product_brochures/ViP622_ProductSheet_HighRes.pdf
and the User Guide for the vip622:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/user_guides_and_manuals/receivers/622_942_quick_reference_guide/index.shtml
even interactive training for the vip622 MENUS:
http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/receiver/622.shtml

You should also find the fol. alternative installation examples of interest:
http://www.solidsignal.com/dishpro_installation.asp

Most of your questions are answered on www.dishnet.com
Here are the OnDemand and PPV pages:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/dish_on_demand/movies/index.shtml
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/pay_per_view/index.shtml
These (and CALLER ID) Require a Phoneline to order. More is on the way, incl. via Internet....

Hi everyone.

I just hooked up my Vip 622 to my new front projector (an Optoma HD80), and discovered that when I connect to the HDMI port the picture is visible, but there is a dim blue background throughout the whole picture. When connected to the component outputs, the picture looks great. Using the same HDMI cable I can connect to my HD-DVD player and everything looks great, so I must conclude there is something wrong with the 622 HDMI.

I will call Dish and go through the hassle of trying to get them to fix it, but I would be interested if anyone else has seen this problem. I did try to search the forum first, so I appolgize if I missed an earlier post.

There has been some problems with the HDMI connection (internally weak solder joint - sorry about the spelling)...

Mine went all the way out, but I never had a blue haze before it went kaput. DISH's tech help is normally pretty good if you call them. See what they have to suggest.

Mark

quick question i have the VIP622 and it said that I can hook up a usb storage device to pull some of my recordings off of the DVR. Does anyone know what sort of device it needs to be and how its set up? I tried hooking up a hard drive that was NTFS and that didnt work then I tried a MAC external HD and that didnt work either.

does it have to be the dish network travel mate viewer thing? or FAT32 format? or am I just doing something wrong? I am going into the USB Storage option under the DVR Menu. when it was NTFS it said there was an imcompitable device

thanks

quick question i have the VIP622 and it said that I can hook up a usb storage device to pull some of my recordings off of the DVR. Does anyone know what sort of device it needs to be and how its set up? I tried hooking up a hard drive that was NTFS and that didnt work then I tried a MAC external HD and that didnt work either.

does it have to be the dish network travel mate viewer thing? or FAT32 format? or am I just doing something wrong? I am going into the USB Storage option under the DVR Menu. when it was NTFS it said there was an imcompitable device

thanks

Have you called Dish to enable the feature? It's a $40 one-time fee. Otherwise Dish says "most off-the-shelf" external USB 2.0 drives should work. I have 2 500gb drives.

Also the 622 will reformat the external hard dirve to its own formating before the external hard drive can be used. Its previous formatting I believe is irrelivant.

Rick R

contrary to what I read in this thread, the 622 DOES seem to output DD 5.1 over HDMI, it did not use to do this, may have been part of the new firmware update that turned on the USB storage?

I'm using two TV with this receiver, one HDTV (living room) and the other analog (in the bedroom) and I'm currently paying Dish the extra $5 for local channels through satellite.

But I recently hook up an OTA antenna and I am successfully able to receive HD local channel through it, so I'll be canceling the locals through satellite that I get from Dish.

However, the locals from OTA antenna don't show up on the bedroom TV. So, if I canceled the locals through satellite service, am I out of luck in receiving them in the bedroom?

However, the locals from OTA antenna don't show up on the bedroom TV. So, if I canceled the locals through satellite service, am I out of luck in receiving them in the bedroom?

Yes, and if you canel Dish locals you will lose the guide information for your OTA locals. They will all read Digital Service.

I have a 120GB external HD connected to the 622 usb port worked fine (after activation) if a bit slow. Considering an hour of HD is 6.5GB I guess I shouldn't complain. Play back from the external drive seems fine, forward fast seems a little quirky. I hooked the drive to my PC. XP doesn't see the drive but using partition magic I can see the 120 drive is partitioned into two linux partitions. The first one is real small and the scond is the remainder of the disk. How do you open see linux partitions in XP. I am curious what format the files are in.

Hi everyone.

I just hooked up my Vip 622 to my new front projector (an Optoma HD80), and discovered that when I connect to the HDMI port the picture is visible, but there is a dim blue background throughout the whole picture. When connected to the component outputs, the picture looks great. Using the same HDMI cable I can connect to my HD-DVD player and everything looks great, so I must conclude there is something wrong with the 622 HDMI.

I will call Dish and go through the hassle of trying to get them to fix it, but I would be interested if anyone else has seen this problem. I did try to search the forum first, so I apologize if I missed an earlier post.

I have not called dish yet, but apparently this is a known problem due to the 622 not putting out a color space that compatible with my Optoma HD80 projector. This has been described as a "purple haze", which is a more concise description than what I had above. These (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11493654#post11493654) posts (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11496063#post11496063)in the HD80 thread indicate this.

So no one else is having this problem with any other viewing device?

So no one else is having this problem with any other viewing device?

Not me, my picture on a 55" Hitachi Plasma (55HDS69) is slammin' great!! Not a hint of any haze and the among the best pictures I've seen on any setup combination.

Mark

looks fine on my 1080i 42" Panny Plasma
once my HDMI over CAT5 device shows up I'll tell you how it looks on ,u Epson 1080p PJ

I have a vip622 receiver. I have hooked the second TV output into my house cable so that I can see it in the upstairs bedroom. I also have a Windows MCE machine in my study which is hooked into the same cable. But I am not able to tune into the Dish programming on my MCE machine. The second TV output is set to OTA channel 60. Which shows up as channel 116 on bedroom CRT TV.

Can someone help? How can I get the vip622 second tv output on my MCE.

Thanks.

I have a vip622 receiver. I have hooked the second TV output into my house cable so that I can see it in the upstairs bedroom. I also have a Windows MCE machine in my study which is hooked into the same cable. But I am not able to tune into the Dish programming on my MCE machine. The second TV output is set to OTA channel 60. Which shows up as channel 116 on bedroom CRT TV.

Can someone help? How can I get the vip622 second tv output on my MCE.

Thanks.


If you have the 2nd TV output set to OTA channel 60, your 2nd TV and others should be set to OTA channel 60. Channel 116 is not an OTA channel, so my guess is that TV is set to cable rather than antenna and hence you are able to find it.

I am sure that the TV is set to 116, may be it is equivalent to OTA channel 60? Also the TV is not a problem. I don't know why MCE is not detecting the signal.

I am sure that the TV is set to 116, may be it is equivalent to OTA channel 60? Also the TV is not a problem. I don't know why MCE is not detecting the signal.


But is there some similar setting (cable/sat) in MCE to check? Also, can you move a TV to the cable where MCE is connected and verify that particular drop of cable has the signal. Maybe the signal is too low through splitters and what not.

Hi All, I am in the Boston area and receive local OTA channels via an antenna through the 622. I get about 24 channels and recently lost the sound on WBZ-DT 4 (video is still perfect hdtv with an 84 signal strength) through the 622. I have not lost sound on any other local channels and still get the WBZ-DT sound through the same antenna on the TV's built in OTA tuner. This is connected via component cables through a Pioneer receiver since I have not been able to get the HDMI port on the 622 to work.

I have rescanned the channels but the same problem persists - any idea why just this one channel would lose sound only through the Dish receiver and all other channels are fine through the same receiver?

Thanks for any help

Chris10

I am a current Comcast subscriber using the Motorola DCT-6412. I am looking into switching to DishTV with the VIP622. Two questions if you can help me.

- In the DCT6412, there are 2 High-def receivers. I can record 2 HD programming, while watching a 3rd recorded program. Can the VIP622 do the same?

- I use one DCT6412 to run 2 HDTVs, one via the HDMI port, and the other the Component port. Both ports are active and output high-def at the same time. I see that the VIP622 has both the HDMI and Component as well - do they both output signals?
I am not interested in the 2nd standard def output.

Thank you.

Yes, you can record two while watching a recorded one. You can record three if you have a decent over-the-air signal where you live.

Both high-definition outputs are active, with the same program of course.

Hi All, I am in the Boston area and receive local OTA channels via an antenna through the 622. I get about 24 channels and recently lost the sound on WBZ-DT 4 (video is still perfect hdtv with an 84 signal strength) through the 622. I have not lost sound on any other local channels and still get the WBZ-DT sound through the same antenna on the TV's built in OTA tuner. This is connected via component cables through a Pioneer receiver since I have not been able to get the HDMI port on the 622 to work.

I have rescanned the channels but the same problem persists - any idea why just this one channel would lose sound only through the Dish receiver and all other channels are fine through the same receiver?

Thanks for any help

Chris10

This happened to many people with the 4.66 software roll out. Check the satellite forums for more details (DBSTalk or Satellite Guys). I would expect Dish to either roll back to 4.65 or send out a correction soon.

Have you ever gotten the Acquiring Satellite Signal message for Dish and it just sits there? 0 progress out of 5 for a long time.

Yesterday it had the same message, then I got some message regarding the Switch (forgot the rest but have not seen it since)...?

Eventually, we got the reception back but today it's the same deal. I went to menu 6-1-3 for a system check and got no signal (three red X's). Under details, it says to check for weather, trees etc blocking the signal, but nothing is. It's been working fine for awhile now.

Any ideas? I called my service installer, but it won't be until Wed.

T

You usually need to run the utility from the menu to check/redo your switch if you have continual problems.

Mark

Hey guys, I think i might have screwed up my receiver somehow. Here's the problem, one of my tuners gives audio, and now the other somehow doesn't. Does anyone know what i did? I know it's not my audio receiver, because it gives out the audio signal from one tuner, did i click something on my other tuner that now makes it not give audio? I have it hooked up through optical to a receiver.

I'm on a channel, sound is fine, I hit swap, NO SOUND!!! and i recorded on it, so i'm afraid that now my recording doesn't have sound. WHAT'S MY PROBLEM? Please help me out quick.

nvm i figured it out, don't really know what happened but then remembered i could just reset it. other than Heroes being cut off from recording, it was fine.

I've just upgraded to the VIP 622 receiver from Dish Network. I have a single TV and run the receiver in Single Mode. I have no OTA capability so am just interested in the 2 satellite tuners. There have been a number of times that after using "swap" for a while, I've lost track of which tuner I'm watching. I've searched through the screens and menus, but can find no help. I've also come up empty on the web, but there's so much out there, I may have missed something. I called Dish technical support, and they said there is no way to tell which tuner is being watched. They did say that when the receiver is turned on, it will be on tuner 1. If that's true, I guess I can power cycle the thing to get back to tuner 1. This seems very crude for such a nice receiver. Am I missing something obvious here? Thanks.

Richard Snow

You are always watching tuner 1.
If you swap, the new tuner you are watching becomes tuner 1.
If you are using picture in picture, the larger picture is tuner 1.
If the two pictures are the same size, the picture on the left is tuner 1.

homestand

I recently upgraded my Dish to the 622, and have a question about how to connect my dvd recorder. It's a Sony upconverting dvd recorder, which looks great just playing dvd's on my Panny plasma, but I'd like to hook it to my 622 to record my son's programming onto dvd.

Previously, I was using the second tuner from my 522 dvr on this tv, so I just hooked up the coax to the "in" connection on the dvd-r, and then "out" to the tv. (Like an old vcr) The dvd-r picked up the ota channel with the built-in tuner, which was the same one the tv was using, so I could get the same signal going thru it coming from the 522 in the other room. That way, I could record anything that was showing up on the tv.

With the box hooked up via component, what's the best way to hook up the dvd-r and get the signal sent thru it?

Hopefully this question is clear, I'm a bit of a noob in this area. :o

Not sure I understand completely but I will try to answer. With the 622 you can take the "home distribution" output of the 622 that goes to TV2 and run this through the dvd-r and then from the dvd-r to the second television just as you did before. This should work fine.

However to get a higher quality DVD you can do what I do. I use the s-video and L/R audio out of TV1 into the s-video of the DVD recorder. This gives you high quality widescreen DVD recordings. The disadvantage is that you have to play the programming on TV1 and ties up the TV1 output while recording.

Rick R

Aha!! Like a dope, I was using the r/w/y composite out jacks from tv2 into the dvd-r, no wonder that wasn't working. Temporary brain fart, there. What you're saying makes sense. I'll give it a shot...

Thanks, Rick!

any body got a link to a complete instruction book for the 622. I simply can not get mine to recognize sat 61.5 even thought the antenna is pointed correctly, No problem with 110/119.

never mind I got it.

Know this is forever late, but just hooked up external drive. . . it has to be external drive WITH ITS OWN POWER SUPPLY, not a external HD that gets its power from the USB connection. Nice little detail to know!

Hi all. Searched for an hr trying to find this, probably there but thought it would be faster to just ask. . .

Have VIP 622 HDMI out to DVI in for Projector. Worked fine for 6mos, then when powered on, I would get blank screen but Sat audio. After some fumbling, found out if I reset 622 I get the Video and it works rest of day until 1st power up the following day. Figure this has to do with the nightly reset. For some reason, the projector has to be on for the reset to fix the Video problem. Tried replacing the 622 since it once worked, same problem.

Questions:

I assume others have had this problem. How did you fix?
Anyone try a new, higher quality HDMI to DVI cable?
I assume Component Video doesn't have same problem?
Does the VIP722 have this problem?


Appreciate any idea or input as I prefer to not purchase anything until I figure out how to make it work.

Thx.

Hi all. Searched for an hr trying to find this, probably there but thought it would be faster to just ask. . .

Have VIP 622 HDMI out to DVI in for Projector. Worked fine for 6mos, then when powered on, I would get blank screen but Sat audio. After some fumbling, found out if I reset 622 I get the Video and it works rest of day until 1st power up the following day. Figure this has to do with the nightly reset. For some reason, the projector has to be on for the reset to fix the Video problem. Tried replacing the 622 since it once worked, same problem.

Questions:

I assume others have had this problem. How did you fix?
Anyone try a new, higher quality HDMI to DVI cable?
I assume Component Video doesn't have same problem?
Does the VIP722 have this problem?


Appreciate any idea or input as I prefer to not purchase anything until I figure out how to make it work.

Thx.

I started having the same problem on my Optoma RD-50 after software 4.49 was released. Per the CSR, it will be fixed in a future S/W release, although I'm not holding my breath. I switched to component connection and all is working correctly. I don't know if 722 has same problem or not, and I don't think the issue is the cable quality. I suspect it is related to HDCP timing, even though my TV is not HDCP and a reboot solves problem.

I use a 622 connected to a Sanyo Z2000 PJ over HDMI (and HDMI over CAT 5), I have not noticed this issue...yet...how long has this FW update been out? How do I check my FW version...

I started having the same problem on my Optoma RD-50 after software 4.49 was released. Per the CSR, it will be fixed in a future S/W release, although I'm not holding my breath. I switched to component connection and all is working correctly. I don't know if 722 has same problem or not, and I don't think the issue is the cable quality. I suspect it is related to HDCP timing, even though my TV is not HDCP and a reboot solves problem.

Thanks Miner. . . .yes, I tried component video connection last night. Issue happens only with HDMI, not Component. Funny thing is it ONLY happens after the nightly software update. I asked CSR for a means to disable the nightly update and only do when I want and there is no way to do that. . . seems silly to not be able to defeat that feature. Anyway, I didn't notice a major difference between HDMI video with HDTV and Component Video connection.

Anybody have strong opinions about how higher quality Component Video interconnects/cable will improve picture on Std or HDTV?

Hello all, I have had this unit for 18 months, and it has worked fine, but Friday night, all my SD channels were gone. I only have locals and HD. All the SD channels like Sirius, Comedy Central, G4, etc are gone, you can't even see them in the guide.

TV 1 and 2 both look like this.

I called tech support, and they checked the signal (good), run some diagnostice (good), reboot (same problem), unplug for 15 seconds (same problem). There next step is to send out a tech for $50.

Also, any progams I have recorded on the now missing channels, now show up as locked, and I need to enter my code to get into them.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

:eek:I set a manual timer on my Dish vip622 to try to record only part of a news program. The manual timer is for a local (ota) channel and is set from 10:06pm to 10:15pm monday through friday. It should record 9 minutes each weekday. But instead, it always records the entire 35 minute program (no early start or late ending).

Is this a known bug? Has anyone else seen this behavior?


Jeff

:eek:I set a manual timer on my Dish vip622 to try to record only part of a news program. The manual timer is for a local (ota) channel and is set from 10:06pm to 10:15pm monday through friday. It should record 9 minutes each weekday. But instead, it always records the entire 35 minute program (no early start or late ending).

Is this a known bug? Has anyone else seen this behavior?


Jeff

Someone in the Dish 622 support forum at DBStalk.com should be able to help.

:eek:I set a manual timer on my Dish vip622 to try to record only part of a news program. The manual timer is for a local (ota) channel and is set from 10:06pm to 10:15pm monday through friday. It should record 9 minutes each weekday. But instead, it always records the entire 35 minute program (no early start or late ending).

Is this a known bug? Has anyone else seen this behavior?


Jeff
Interesting. I'll try later and let you know.

Recently, I noticed a strange problem when playing back recorded content from the 622 DVR. There is pixelation whenever images are rapidly changing (changing camera angles, fast action, switching from programming to commercials, etc).

-The pixelation is not in the source material, since 'Live' TV does not exhibit the problem.

-All recorded content, whether it is from the satellite or OTA tuner, exhibits the problem.

It's not my projector or AVR or anything, because no other source has the problem, only DVR content.

Has anyone else had this problem?

I have not noticed the problem, but I will keep an eye out.

You should have gotten new software within the past few weeks. Try a hard reset and see if that clears up the problem.

I didn't notice last night. But I got a new machine about a month ago. The power supply in the old one died, and I needed a replacement.