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The wit and intelligence always shines through in Studio 60, as it did with that show. One measure of a good show for me is if I get as much from the unspoken as the spoken work. In Studio 60, both types of expression are rich and textured.
I thought the pilot was very promising, but this "wit and intelligence" never showed up for me. All I saw after that were professional adults acting like teenagers, characters acting conveniently stupid to advance the plot, plots that were supposed to "teach" us things we learned in high school (Wow, "Who on First" is a classic comedy routine! Wow, blacklisting suspected Communists was a bad thing!), humor that everyone agreed wasn't funny but we were supposed to pretend it was, and worst of all, nothing realistic about how the television business works (network studios have back up generators for example). The show within the show was dreadful! I was supposed to cheer the characters on for putting that garbage on television?
It seemed very pandering and contrived to me, as if it felt I only wanted to see a happy fun version of the world of television where everything works out in the end. It was really disappointing after the promising pilot.
CPanther95 06-11-07, 01:54 PM Great show...too intelligent for most people, though.
That's a ridiculous statement. You could just as easily say only the simple minded would find it entertaining.
AlanSaysYo 06-11-07, 02:17 PM I thought the pilot was very promising, but this "wit and intelligence" never showed up for me. All I saw after that were professional adults acting like teenagers, characters acting conveniently stupid to advance the plot, plots that were supposed to "teach" us things we learned in high school (Wow, "Who on First" is a classic comedy routine! Wow, blacklisting suspected Communists was a bad thing!), humor that everyone agreed wasn't funny but we were supposed to pretend it was, and worst of all, nothing realistic about how the television business works (network studios have back up generators for example). The show within the show was dreadful! I was supposed to cheer the characters on for putting that garbage on television?
It seemed very pandering and contrived to me, as if it felt I only wanted to see a happy fun version of the world of television where everything works out in the end. It was really disappointing after the promising pilot.
Rarely do I see a post that echoes my sentiments exactly. Well done, sir.
WilliamR 06-11-07, 02:18 PM Couldn't get into this last episode. It was the first episode on Studio that I fast forwarded through the flashbacks. Perhaps it was the fact I know its over, or just tired of that love story, not sure. I enjoyed the hospital scene and the parts about the hostage and his brother, but other then that I skipped the flashbacks.
I thought the pilot was very promising, but this "wit and intelligence" never showed up for me. All I saw after that were professional adults acting like teenagers, characters acting conveniently stupid to advance the plot, plots that were supposed to "teach" us things we learned in high school (Wow, "Who on First" is a classic comedy routine! Wow, blacklisting suspected Communists was a bad thing!), humor that everyone agreed wasn't funny but we were supposed to pretend it was, and worst of all, nothing realistic about how the television business works (network studios have back up generators for example). The show within the show was dreadful! I was supposed to cheer the characters on for putting that garbage on television?
It seemed very pandering and contrived to me, as if it felt I only wanted to see a happy fun version of the world of television where everything works out in the end. It was really disappointing after the promising pilot.
Not sure I remember the pilot so well, but I can easily go along with most of the rest of that. Someone said it was too intelligent for most folks -- guess I could buy that too -- whatever they were doing seemed to be over my head.
VisionOn 06-11-07, 04:12 PM Not sure I remember the pilot so well, but I can easily go along with most of the rest of that. Someone said it was too intelligent for most folks -- guess I could buy that too -- whatever they were doing seemed to be over my head.
the only things I remember about the pilot are the excellent opening monologue by Judd Hirsch and the fact that it was before the romantic mess started amongst the leads.
It was also when it seemed to be promising sharp witty dialog instead of slapstick involving cougars and snakes, exploding squibs and being locked on the roof of the building for hilarious comedy effect. And I don't see that as intelligent writing in the slightest.
skyehill 06-11-07, 04:19 PM Great show...too intelligent for most people, though.
I did notice the other day that it has a DVD posting on Amazon. Not for sale yet, but I hope it will be!
What's intelligent about it? I've enjoyed Sorkin's shows in the past, but this show is anything but intelligent.
Joseph Clark 06-12-07, 03:36 AM Guess some of us will just have to disagree on the issue of Studio 60's level of intelligence. Every show in the history of episodic television has floundered, especially (and often) in the first year. It takes time for actors to find their characters' centers, for writers to know how characters' voices should and should not sound, and for directors to pace and move the show. I found a lot to like in Studio 60. I can't remember one episode I saw that didn't move me or amuse me more than almost anything else I had seen that week in television. We won't ever know how it might have grown, but I'm sorry I won't get the chance to find out.
dad1153 06-12-07, 06:04 AM ^^^ +1 :)
gruven42 06-12-07, 11:44 AM ^^^ +1 :)
Hatfield 06-14-07, 11:46 PM After tonight's episode, I'm angry Studio 60 was canceled. :mad: Sure we've seen the "ups and downs" of the show, but, for the most part, I liked it. Now that we're watching the last episodes, I'm sad that it'll be over. :(
Maybe we should follow the Jericho fans' lead and start sending nuts to NBC in revolt...or maybe fake snakes. :p
This show sucked me in again. I had a bunch sitting on my TiVo, but dumped them after the show was canceled, what was the point in watching? Anyway, tonight I was tired and just sitting there and S-60 came on and I watched it and really enjoyed it! Sure, some of the dialog was stilted, but that's part of the fun.
I noticed they did not show any previews, any idea how episodes are left?
dad1153 06-15-07, 11:58 AM Two more episodes left: "K&R Part 3" (which with the "Breaking News" episode preceding it makes this a four-episode story arc) and the series finale, "The La-Scala Opera."
jwebb1970 06-15-07, 12:03 PM HD PQ seemed better on last night's ep (less grainy). Am I hallucinating? :confused:
dad1153 06-15-07, 12:12 PM Not on WNBC-DT over Time Warner Cable. Same upconverted-from-16mm look the show's had since early this year, when Warner switched to Super 16mm film to cut on production costs.
eghill1125 06-15-07, 12:17 PM HD PQ seemed better on last night's ep (less grainy). Am I hallucinating? :confused:
I have never watched this show so I can't comment from before to now, but I did run across it last night and thought the PQ was dreadful for any HD station. Ihad to switch aspect ratios to be sure it was supposed to be HD, it was that bad.
If someone could fill me in on one minor thing I missed I would appreciate it. In Chicago the screen went black for a few seconds -- switched to SD for a few seconds and then went back to HD in the middle of the show.
In the last part I saw before going black, Simon Stiles was speaking to a single reporter about Tom's relationship with his brother. When the picture came back he was creaming at about 50 reporters.
Did all these other reporters just come running up to the door -- did the reporter sell him out -- how did it go from one reporter to a gaggle of reporters? What did the reporters ask that set Stiles off?
Thanks for the info.
rebkell 06-15-07, 04:59 PM If someone could fill me in on one minor thing I missed I would appreciate it. In Chicago the screen went black for a few seconds -- switched to SD for a few seconds and then went back to HD in the middle of the show.
In the last part I saw before going black, Simon Stiles was speaking to a single reporter about Tom's relationship with his brother. When the picture came back he was creaming at about 50 reporters.
Did all these other reporters just come running up to the door -- did the reporter sell him out -- how did it go from one reporter to a gaggle of reporters? What did the reporters ask that set Stiles off?
Thanks for the info.
Going from memory and won't swear to it, but I think the reporters just spotted them talking and came running in force, one of the reporters asked Simon something about a rumor that NBS had leaked the story about the brother to boost the ratings, or something very similar anyway, at that point Simon went off.
dad1153 06-15-07, 08:33 PM ^^^ That's exactly how it went down.
mcaldero 06-18-07, 10:42 AM I just watched Thursday's episode, and I have to say that I will really miss this show. Over the past 3 episodes, it has really found a rhythm and has hit its stride.
i love this show, the first episode was great but my favorite episode is episode #2 "cold open" which i still have in my DVR in hi def and i plan on keeping it there till my DVR breaks
the Christmas episode was nice also, wish i had saved it in hi def on my DVR. i have every episode recorded to DVD off the hi def channel
i really hope they put this out on hd-dvd or blu-ray but i'm not holding my breath
VisionOn 06-18-07, 11:34 AM I liked Thursday's episode as well. Probably my favorite since the John Goodman two-parter. Some witty lines, good banter, some tension, good ensemble scenes and less romantic whining.
What I get from this is that Aaron Sorkin is only really comfortable when he's dealing with politics and current events.
jwebb1970 06-18-07, 12:50 PM i love this show, the first episode was great but my favorite episode is episode #2 "cold open" which i still have in my DVR in hi def and i plan on keeping it there till my DVR breaks
the Christmas episode was nice also, wish i had saved it in hi def on my DVR. i have every episode recorded to DVD off the hi def channel
i really hope they put this out on hd-dvd or blu-ray but i'm not holding my breath
I would imagine at least a regular DVD release in in the works.
Being an NBC show, I would guess it'd hit HDDVD if it were to get an HD format release.
madpoet 06-18-07, 01:16 PM The Christmas Episode was by far my favorite. I have to admit though, I get really tired of Sorkin's politics coming through the way they do. This isn't "The West Wing" anymore (even if half your cast is there).
I just watched K&R part 2 and thought it was funny that Danny mentioned to Jordan that a woman with a pregnancy in danger is good for ratings. Almost like they were telling on themselves. ;)
THe last couple have been good and I really hate that they cancelled this show.
ion-man 06-20-07, 02:16 PM Just enjoying it while it lasts folks. The last few eps really reminded me of why I loved this show in the first place. Oh well :(
Awful...I can't believe they ended it that way...makes me wish I never watched the show in the first place...
Well there is a lesson to be learned here...don't watch any shows that have the possibility of cancellation...illegally download the DVDs after Season 1 is over (and Season 2 is confirmed) and watch them commercial free...
how utterly unbelievable that NBC did that...I'm livid
dude. it's not the end of the show. we have one more ep to go before we all ultimately profess to be disappointed with the resolution of the plot.
also, i like your signature. i hate the 6412, too. it seems like it's always finding newer and more interesting ways to crash/not work at all/drop audio/freeze. motorola couldn't make that bitch buggier if they covered it in honey and left it on the porch overnight.
VisionOn 06-22-07, 06:51 AM dammit, why didn't Sorkin settle into this rhythm earlier instead of hilarious "trapped on a roof" cliches, snakes in a vent and exploding baby props?
I've really enjoyed the last batch of episodes despite it's swing to West Wing. The drama is good, the one liners are funny without being silly like "I've wanted to kill Arabs before any of you" and "I'm a sexual harassment lawyer, not the A-team."
It's getting back to how the show is created instead of the switch to romantic comedy they had last year which I thought was just tiresome. They've put Matt and Danny back together at last instead of splitting them up to wander around after Harriet and Jordan with their tongues out and now that Jordan isn't on screen I actually care if she lives.
dude. it's not the end of the show. we have one more ep to go before we all ultimately profess to be disappointed with the resolution of the plot..
oh wow... I thought that was the last episode...weird...I wonder why he did a 3 episode story arc and then the season/series finale...he better resolve some crap
I've really enjoyed the last batch of episodes despite it's swing to West Wing. The drama is good, the one liners are funny without being silly like "I've wanted to kill Arabs before any of you"
I literally could not stop laughing when he said this...I had to pause my recording...great great line...perfect execution too
archiguy 06-22-07, 09:24 AM also, i like your signature. i hate the 6412, too. it seems like it's always finding newer and more interesting ways to crash/not work at all/drop audio/freeze. motorola couldn't make that bitch buggier if they covered it in honey and left it on the porch overnight.
I'd be glad to trade you for that machine. At least the Moto 6412 still has an active, working firewire port. Not so the far-more-common SA8300 (or any of the SA HD boxes, for that matter). My D-VHS tape deck is now a very expensive paperweight. Thank you Time Warner Cable. :mad: :rolleyes:
jwebb1970 06-27-07, 06:59 PM The S1 DVD announcement was already posted elsewhere by fredfa, but here's the scoop from todays thedigitalbits.com "My Two Cents" column:
Meanwhile, Warner has announced a number of new titles today as well, starting with NBC's Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip: The Complete Series, which is set for release on 10/16 as a 6-disc set (SRP $59.98). You'll get all 22 episodes in anamorphic widescreen video with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, audio commentary with series creator Aaron Sorkin and producer Tommy Schlamme on the pilot episode, and a behind-the-scenes documentary. In other words, not much for a lot of money. We think the show deserved better.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx/covers4/studio60dvd.jpg
The S1 DVD announcement was already posted elsewhere by fredfa, but here's the scoop from todays thedigitalbits.com "My Two Cents" column:
Meanwhile, Warner has announced a number of new titles today as well, starting with NBC's Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip: The Complete Series, which is set for release on 10/16 as a 6-disc set (SRP $59.98). You'll get all 22 episodes in anamorphic widescreen video with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, audio commentary with series creator Aaron Sorkin and producer Tommy Schlamme on the pilot episode, and a behind-the-scenes documentary. In other words, not much for a lot of money. We think the show deserved better.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx/covers4/studio60dvd.jpg
I wonder if the PQ will be similar to the HD broadcasts...some of the HD broadcasts were absolutely horrid
Joseph Clark 06-27-07, 11:01 PM The show was always rather dark and grainy, so the DVD shouldn't be as much of a distraction as it would be with some shows. I'll bite.
dad1153 06-28-07, 12:14 AM Meanwhile, Warner has announced a number of new titles today as well, starting with NBC's Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip: The Complete Series, which is set for release on 10/16 as a 6-disc set (SRP $59.98). You'll get all 22 episodes in anamorphic widescreen video with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, audio commentary with series creator Aaron Sorkin and producer Tommy Schlamme on the pilot episode, and a behind-the-scenes documentary. In other words, not much for a lot of money. We think the show deserved better.
Stinks, but it's double what we got with Sorkin's Sports Night Box Set (i.e. a big bowl of nada).
URFloorMatt 06-28-07, 10:58 PM Now that was the show I signed up for. It's just too bad it took them 21 episodes before they got it right. Oh well. Excellent episode.
Maybe I'll buy the DVD set after all.
I'm so glad Sorkin had the foresight to have an ending which also had enough closure...great episode...slightly Hollywood but then again it is Studio 60...
I really thought Peet was going to die before he could get her to sign the papers...but guess not
dad1153 06-29-07, 12:36 AM Curious decision to have Bradley Whitford direct what would end up being "Studio 60's" swan song (though fitting). Maybe the first episode aired after the hiatus ("The Disaster Show") was shot last and was supposed to air as the follow-up to all the deadly serious shenanigans from the previous five or so episodes. Get it? Matt says at the end of the finale let's come back and have a great show, yet the following episode (after all the things they all went through) they do a crappy show. Maybe that "Disaster Show" episode was only 37 minutes long because they took out scenes with Matt, Danny and Jordan dealing with their new situations but that would have messed with the intended air dates of the burnoff episodes. I just find it odd that it wasn't Busfield or Schlamme directing the finale of "Studio 60" but Bradley fracking Whitford.
Not that I'm complaining though, this episode tied lots of loose ends and leaves us (the hardcore Sorkinites that stuck with "Studio 60" through the plummeting ratings and lengthy hiatuses) with the warm feeling that "Sports Nights" ended with. That feeling that, somewhere out in TV land, Matt is writing his ass off next week's "Studio 60" show (with Harriet outside his office praying silently for God to save Matt's soul) while Danny and Jordan struggle in their Malibu home with the nuisance of putting together an Ikea crib for little Becky. In other words, "Studio 60" established these characters well-enough so that we can totally imagine them going on about their busy showbusiness lives. You know, like the end of "The Sopranos" without the thread of a bloody whacking when the screen goes to black (which ironically is called "dead air" in TV land).
I can honestly say that my "Sports Night" loving ass has been rejuvenated with love for the industry and the type of people I work with. If for nothing else I'm grateful that Aaron Sorkin is such an egomaniac that he can't help but write a ton of brilliant, sanctimonious and interesting TV by himself (or almost singlehandedly) better than anybody else on television today. It's been a year-long road to hell paved with good intentions, but the it was quite a ride. I only hope this whole experience with "Studio 60" hasn't soured the master from the medium of television and that someday down the line he will grace us, mere mortals, with the greatness of his prodigious writing. :( :( :(
HDTVChallenged 06-29-07, 01:10 AM Curious decision to have Bradley Whitford direct what would end up being "Studio 60's" swan song (though fitting). Maybe the first episode aired after the hiatus ("The Disaster Show") was shot last and was supposed to air as the follow-up to all the deadly serious shenanigans from the previous five or so episodes.
Humm really? I ask because the scene where "Danny" turned out the stage lamp has some special significance, if I remember my theater lore correctly. Perhaps that was added afterwards?
Joseph Clark 06-29-07, 03:50 AM I had some of the same pangs I experienced when Joss Whedon's 'Buffy, the Vampire Slayer' left he air - that feeling that it might be a long time before a series with a creator/writer of such intelligence, wit and humor came along again. Sorkin is one of those gifted people (like Whedon) who can make me laugh and cry in the same episode. OK, I didn't cry in any episode of Studio 60, but the potential was there. Very sad to see this show end.
luckytwn 06-29-07, 05:24 AM Curious decision to have Bradley Whitford direct what would end up being "Studio 60's" swan song (though fitting).
Not really all that curious. He wants a chance to direct, he's a loyal Sorkin guy for years. They knew by the time this was shot, they were mainly working for themselves. What would they have to lose by allowing him to direct it?
As for providing closure, what else would they have done? Created a cliffhanger for a show they knew for months wasn't coming back? This was not a normal situation, they had gotten a full order of 22 so they continued shooting episodes even though the show was already dead.
This episode was clearly planned as the end. From the time it became clear the show was dead, everyone around the show said they would tie up the loose ends and that's what they did.
The overnight ratings for the "Studio 60" finale have been posted here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10367387#post10367387
Joseph Clark 06-29-07, 01:51 PM Not really all that curious. He wants a chance to direct, he's a loyal Sorkin guy for years. They knew by the time this was shot, they were mainly working for themselves. What would they have to lose by allowing him to direct it?
As for providing closure, what else would they have done? Created a cliffhanger for a show they knew for months wasn't coming back? This was not a normal situation, they had gotten a full order of 22 so they continued shooting episodes even though the show was already dead.
This episode was clearly planned as the end. From the time it became clear the show was dead, everyone around the show said they would tie up the loose ends and that's what they did.
Yes, this was an anti-cliffhanger. It was a series finale show, with the ghost light going out at the end. No way they would have given dramatic closure to every single character if they knew the show would continue.
jwebb1970 06-29-07, 01:58 PM Didn't Whitford direct at least one WEST WING ep? I know he wrote/co-wrote a couple.
URFloorMatt 06-29-07, 10:25 PM I believe he directed several episodes of The West Wing. He even wrote one or two.
Curious decision to have Bradley Whitford direct what would end up being "Studio 60's" swan song (though fitting). Maybe the first episode aired after the hiatus ("The Disaster Show") was shot last and was supposed to air as the follow-up to all the deadly serious shenanigans from the previous five or so episodes. Get it? Matt says at the end of the finale let's come back and have a great show, yet the following episode (after all the things they all went through) they do a crappy show. Maybe that "Disaster Show" episode was only 37 minutes long because they took out scenes with Matt, Danny and Jordan dealing with their new situations but that would have messed with the intended air dates of the burnoff episodes.
I highly doubt that. It felt to me that "The Disaster Show" was a Studio 60 take on the episode "Celestial Navigation" from The West Wing. A horrible failure of an attempt though.
I think I'm actually jumping off points in the Hot off The Press thread, but it was pretty clear to me that Disaster Show and K&R were not what was originally intended for the final few episodes of the season since they featured none of Ed Asner's character, no return of Wes Mendel, and no more high profile guests (to the contrary, the guests included a recurring character from 24 and a regular from Las Vegas). K&R was a low-profile, self-contained story that burned off the rest of the Studio 60 contract with little pomp or circumstance. There wasn't even any more show-within-the-show. It put the lawsuit thread on permanent hiatus, avoided any need to explore the ratings decline and threat of firings/cancellation, and allowed the show to avoid any particularly interesting internal network politics in favor of a straightforward, West-Wing style hostage crisis plot thread.
If anything, The Disaster Show was just the writers burning off a few jokes and plot threads that they had scraped up through the writing of the show and wanted to get out before the show got canned. That's why it was disjointed and only 37 minutes, and why a former West Wing alum hosted.
joshkelley 06-30-07, 06:05 AM Did Jack Rudolph change from Chairman of NBS to NBS Legal, or are they the same thing? It seems odd to me.
John Kotches 07-02-07, 03:45 PM A little bit late, but I'm glad that they referenced the unrelenting clock at the end as well :D
Cheers,
Cal1981 07-02-07, 04:03 PM I'm sorry to see the show go but the closer was very good indeed. The scenes between Simon and Jack (Steven Weber and D.L Hughly) were superb. Both actors were at the top of their game and it showed. It was also good to see James Lesure do a very effective guest shot not like his Vegas character. I would have liked to have seen more of Tim Busfield but since he wasn't key in the major story threads, it's understandable. His work is always good to watch.
Harley_Dude 07-02-07, 04:15 PM I just hated that they couldn't have given Studio 60 at least a couple of seasons to get some traction. I guess with the budget surrounding so many big name stars, they just didn't want to take any chances. Hell, even Joey got 2 seasons though!
It's a shame the first half of season one wasn't as good as the last half, otherwise I think it would have definitely been picked up for another season. The Monday at 10E/9C timeslot didn't do the show any favors either though. Thursday would have been a much better option.
archiguy 07-02-07, 04:24 PM It's a shame the first half of season one wasn't as good as the last half, otherwise I think it would have definitely been picked up for another season. The Monday at 10E/9C timeslot didn't do the show any favors either though. Thursday would have been a much better option.
The Peacock Network originally had 'Studio 60' slotted in for a Thursday time slot, but when ABC announced it was moving 'Grey's Anatomy' over there, NBC blinked and moved 'S-60' over to what they thought was a safer slot on Monday. Oops. But ultimately, the day/time slot wasn't what doomed the show.
Joseph Clark 07-02-07, 04:39 PM I'm sorry to see the show go but the closer was very good indeed. The scenes between Simon and Jack (Steven Weber and D.L Hughly) were superb. Both actors were at the top of their game and it showed. It was also good to see James Lesure do a very effective guest shot not like his Vegas character. I would have liked to have seen more of Tim Busfield but since he wasn't key in the major story threads, it's understandable. His work is always good to watch.
Steven Weber is a really fine actor. His ability was clear in Wings, where his comedic timing was among the best I've ever seen on a sitcom. He's equally gifted in dramatic roles, much like Matthew Perry. Having such a wonderfully versatile cast was a major reason I thought the show had such potential.
John Kotches 07-02-07, 06:32 PM Joe,
You didn't happen to capture all of the episodes did you?
Best,
madpoet 07-02-07, 09:20 PM Finally got around the finale. Good episode, and I will miss the show. I wasn't keen on some of the stuff, but oh well.
Joseph Clark 07-02-07, 09:34 PM Joe,
You didn't happen to capture all of the episodes did you?
Best,
Unfortunately not. I got a lot of them, but I'm in the middle of a massive computer renovation right now and I don't know exactly which eps I captured with MyHD.
John Kotches 07-02-07, 10:59 PM Joe,
I understand renovations with computers. I'm in the midst of building out a nice desktop machine for myself.
Cheers,
cwilson 07-05-07, 03:29 AM A cynic might complain that the finale tied up all the loose ends in happy and predictable fashion, with everybody living happily ever after. But I'm glad they did, because I'd come to care for all those characters, and am pleased that life looks good for them, until the next crisis.
perilous 07-05-07, 08:53 AM Put me in the "sorry to see it go" camp! I watch very few network shows, but loved West Wing so I started watching S60 and liked it.
For those naysayers out there, why bash this show vs. the utter crap that is out there? Even if not up to your "lofty, holier than thou" standards, on a relative basis this was at least somewhat intelligent, well-acted, and entertaining for the most part...I guess for some of you its back to American Idol Season 23 or Dancing with the Stars...Enjoy!!
Gordon Shumway 07-05-07, 09:02 AM Put me in the "sorry to see it go" camp! I watch very few network shows, but loved West Wing so I started watching S60 and liked it.
For those naysayers out there, why bash this show vs. the utter crap that is out there? Even if not up to your "lofty, holier than thou" standards, on a relative basis this was at least somewhat intelligent, well-acted, and entertaining for the most part...I guess for some of you its back to American Idol Season 23 or Dancing with the Stars...Enjoy!!
For me there was almost ZERO interest in the subject matter...I couldn't even remotely get into the idea of watching a show that deals with writing/producing etc a fake SNL show....SNL sucks and has sucked for YEARS..so the topic they are wanting the viewers to get wrapped up in (S60) just isn't timely nor relavent (nor interesting)to many folks any more IMO.
I tried watching a few of the first episodes to see what the buzz was about but the show came across like nails on a chalkboard listening them blather on an on about their trials and tribulations....
I guess that's why I disliked it so much and apparently that was pretty much the viewpoint of MANY Americans as they too opted to avoid the show in droves after the first episode.
perilous 07-05-07, 09:21 AM For me there was almost ZERO interest in the subject matter...I couldn't even remotely get into the idea of watching a show that deals with writing/producing etc a fake SNL show....SNL sucks and has sucked for YEARS..so the topic they are wanting the viewers to get wrapped up in (S60) just isn't timely nor relavent (nor interesting)to many folks any more IMO.
I tried watching a few of the first episodes to see what the buzz was about but the show came across like nails on a chalkboard listening them blather on an on about their trials and tribulations....
I guess that's why I disliked it so much and apparently that was pretty much the viewpoint of MANY Americans as they too opted to avoid the show in droves after the first episode.
Thank you for enlightening me...could you further enlighten all of us as to what you think "non-sucks" on network TV today??
Gordon Shumway 07-05-07, 09:32 AM Thank you for enlightening me...could you further enlighten all of us as to what you think "non-sucks" on network TV today??
You are VERY welcome!!! :)
Hmmm....The Office, Ugly Betty, House, Boston Legal, LOST, Scrubs, heck even reruns of Leave it Beaver are more entertaining than S60 for me... :D
thejokell 07-05-07, 10:07 AM You are VERY welcome!!! :)
Hmmm....The Office, Ugly Betty, House, Boston Legal, LOST, Scrubs, heck even reruns of Leave it Beaver are more entertaining than S60 for me... :D
You had me until Ugly Betty... :rolleyes:
jwebb1970 07-05-07, 10:11 AM You are VERY welcome!!! :)
Hmmm....The Office, Ugly Betty, House, Boston Legal, LOST, Scrubs, heck even reruns of Leave it Beaver are more entertaining than S60 for me... :D
With you on some of the shows mentioned - THE OFFICE, LOST, HOUSE, SCRUBS....
But I too am going to miss S60.
RIP
dad1153 07-05-07, 10:51 AM My signature speaks for itself (sob, sob)! :(
Gordon Shumway 07-05-07, 10:59 AM My signature speaks for itself (sob, sob)! :(
Wow you must have a lot vested in the show to actually feel the need to have an Obit for it as a sig.... :eek:
gruven42 07-05-07, 11:01 AM Wow you must have a lot vested in the show
Says the guy who loves Ugly Betty :rolleyes:
Gordon Shumway 07-05-07, 11:24 AM Says the guy who loves Ugly Betty :rolleyes:
Hey at least I don't have a tearful Obit about a dead TV show as my sig ..... :p :D
Gordon Shumway 07-05-07, 11:24 AM Says the guy who loves Ugly Betty :rolleyes:
p.s.
How many episodes of UB have you seen btw?
wdkerbow 07-05-07, 11:37 AM Anyone else wonder what happened to the lawsuit plot line with NBS and the FCC? I was looking forward to how that was going to be resolved, but I guess we'll never know. Thoughts anyone?
dad1153 07-05-07, 11:41 AM Wow you must have a lot vested in the show to actually feel the need to have an Obit for it as a sig.... :eek:
I'm a HUGE fan of Sorkin's Sports Night (never seen West Wing, too much of a political nut to buy fictitious one's portrayed by actors) and Studio 60 has come the closest to capturing that "workplace-environment-as-surrogate-family-within-the-TV-industry" vibe that "Sports Night" just nailed dead-on. To me "Studio 60" will live on in DVD form as the equivalent of the re-imagined, re-cast and re-invented third season of "Sports Night" we Sorkinites were denied back in 2000. :)
perilous 07-05-07, 01:39 PM You are VERY welcome!!! :)
Hmmm....The Office, Ugly Betty, House, Boston Legal, LOST, Scrubs, heck even reruns of Leave it Beaver are more entertaining than S60 for me... :D
Well I guess we can agree to disagree...I for one do NOT like any of the shows you mentioned, except perhaps "the Beav"... ;)
NetworkTV 07-05-07, 01:42 PM Well I guess we can agree to disagree...I for one do NOT like any of the shows you mentioned, except perhaps "the Beav"... ;)
Yeah, but only HBO and Cinemax show that...and only late at night... ;)
madpoet 07-05-07, 03:17 PM Sports Night was just plain great. One of the few TV shows I have the box set for (the others being Firefly, Wonderfalls, and Buffy). Even they got a little preachy though, like when Jeremy wouldn't go hunting because he couldn't bear to watch the deer suffer.
jwebb1970 07-05-07, 03:24 PM Well I guess we can agree to disagree...I for one do NOT like any of the shows you mentioned, except perhaps "the Beav"...
Yeah, but only HBO and Cinemax show that...and only late at night... ;)
Even late at night, those stations rarely show "the beav" on those "adult programs" obviously being referenced. :D
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