'Jericho' on CBS

[jmproductions]

I thought it was great tonight. if they keep it going well i'll be a fan.

[ncxcstud]

Seems like a good mix between Lost and Invasion...More so like Invasion, but with the constant questioning of Lost...

pretty good mix, I enjoyed it, this show has my interest now ;)

[Gojhawks]

I thought it was pretty good. Having lived in Kansas most of my life I can say they did a pretty good job portraying the dynamics of small town Kansas. The exteriors looked like many run-of-the-mill towns you will find here. It had the right "feel". I guess we will have to see what develops. They are off to a good start.

I do have to call them on the fact there is nowhere in Kansas you can see the Rocky Mountains. Simply not possible.

[renamed]

I just watched this show on my DVR, and i was surpised how good it was....

[jmproductions]

I've been waiting on this one for a while i figured it would either be good (which i hoped my kind of show) or very bad. I'm pleased for now :) can't wait for the next one.

[srw1000]

I was kind of looking forward to this one, but didn't care for it. The characters weren't interesting and the storyline wasn't involving. I was hoping for a continental version of Lost, but this just isn't it.

I won't be watching further episodes.

Scott

[trbarry]

I was looking forward to this but my stupid Fusion3Q recording screwed up. I'll have to go look for another source somewhere. Now I'm afraid to read this thread for the spoilers. :(

- Tom

edit: It looks like they are showing it again on Saturday.

[dchdfan]

I was looking forward to this but my stupid Fusion3Q recording screwed up. I'll have to go look for another source somewhere. Now I'm afraid to read this thread for the spoilers. :(

- Tom

edit: It looks like they are showing it again on Saturday.


Will not be HD, but you can stream Jericho at CBS.com starting Thursday morning...

[raaj]

It was a big yawn. Sloppy is the word.

Lost is the gold standard in series pilots. This ain't no Lost. I'll give it another week to see if it pulls an Invasion on me.

[lax01]

What an utter disappointment...honestly, I didn't think you could make a nuclear holocaust boring but somehow they figured out how to do it. The only character I like is Gerald McRaney (from Deadwood) but the rest were far too annoying. Skeet Ulrich should have given up a long time ago. The rest of the cast is bland and boring, people I don't know and don't really care about. I'm much more preoccupied with the idea of nuclear war and when they barely act like something is going on, I loose interest fast. Another stinker, rip-off show from CBS...keeping pushing out the poopers CBS!

[Vampz26]

Seems like a good mix between Lost and Invasion...More so like Invasion, but with the constant questioning of Lost...

pretty good mix, I enjoyed it, this show has my interest now ;)

yeah! The promo pics were even similiar...'child staring out over the phenomenon'...

...and throw in the pop-rock soundtrack and classic cars and you get a wee-bit of theWB/Supernatural in there too!

Did anyone catch the "emergency trachiotomy" scene reminiscent of M*A*S*H also on CBS back in the day?

[McGillicutty]

What an utter disappointment...honestly, I didn't think you could make a nuclear holocaust boring but somehow they figured out how to do it. The only character I like is Gerald McRaney (from Deadwood) but the rest were far too annoying. Skeet Ulrich should have given up a long time ago. The rest of the cast is bland and boring, people I don't know and don't really care about. I'm much more preoccupied with the idea of nuclear war and when they barely act like something is going on, I loose interest fast. Another stinker, rip-off show from CBS...keeping pushing out the poopers CBS!

Talk about it all you want, it’s not perfect but I will bet you that show will be one of the top shows in less than 4 weeks. With Criminal Minds anchoring CBS Wednesdays, it looks like CBS has 2 solid Drama's to compete with Grays, Law and Order, and House. Although my personal opinion is House is the best show on TV...

[luv2chill]

I'm a sucker for anything involving Kansas, and I'm also a fan of post-apocalyptic dramas (therefore "The Day After" is perfection to me, despite its many flaws). So I had high hopes for Jericho, which have been partially met in the pilot episode. I never get tired of mushroom cloud scenes and EMP afteraffects (sounds like the fallout's coming next episode), but there were a ton of TV cliches (the aforementioned emergency trache being one of them) riddled throughout the whole hour that I found distracting and off-putting. I guess that's what you have to do to pull in an audience, but it's not helping me believe this story. I hope the show lasts, but CBS isn't the most patient network out there... so if the ratings don't start (and stay) strong this thing will probably get pulled quickly.

[marosnax]

It has promise that is for sure

[kmj0577]

I thought it was pretty good. Having lived in Kansas most of my life I can say they did a pretty good job portraying the dynamics of small town Kansas. The exteriors looked like many run-of-the-mill towns you will find here. It had the right "feel". I guess we will have to see what develops. They are off to a good start.

I do have to call them on the fact there is nowhere in Kansas you can see the Rocky Mountains. Simply not possible.
Yeah, and Denver is like halfway inside Colorado (about 200 miles from the border), so there's no way you could see it that well.

[jefe noche]

What a huge steaming pile of dung.

Could the dialog be any lamer?

Turned it off after 45 minutes. I felt like I was watching a "teen show" on the WB network.

It makes me sad to see Gerald McRaney on a show so terrible so soon after his terrific work as George Hearst on Deadwood.

[chris_steltz]

My TiVo cut the show off at 45 minutes for some reason. So Ill just have to download it to finish watching it. But from what I saw I really Liked it. Also the show Smith is worth checking out, hopefully both shows catch a solid audience

[Rakesh.S]

Skeet Ulrich's last show (Miracles) was about 10x better than this one.

It's missing a supernatural/scifi element ala lost to really give it a boost and it'll likely turn into a sappy drama exploring all the chaos/disaster stereotypes.

[Ron Temple]

What a huge steaming pile of dung.

Could the dialog be any lamer?

Turned it off after 45 minutes. I felt like I was watching a "teen show" on the WB network.

It makes me sad to see Gerald McRaney on a show so terrible so soon after his terrific work as George Hearst on Deadwood.Ahhh yep...couldn't agree more.

[bsather]

I was kind of looking forward to this one, but didn't care for it. The characters weren't interesting and the storyline wasn't involving. I was hoping for a continental version of Lost, but this just isn't it.

I won't be watching further episodes.

Scott

Same here....what a disappointment.

[HDTVFanAtic]

Didn't ABC use this same story line as a 2 part special in 1983/1984, maybe for November Sweeps in 83?

EDIT: I was right - its been done:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/trivia

The film is set mostly in Lawrence, Kansas, which was chosen by the screenwriters as a way to dramatize how nuclear war would affect everyone. During the Cold War, it was theorized that Lawrence, Kansas would be one of the few cities completely unaffected by nuclear war as it is near the exact geographic center of the United States.

[sangs]

Didn't ABC use this same story line as a 2 part special in 1983/1984, maybe for November Sweeps in 83?
EDIT: I was right - its been done:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/trivia
The film is set mostly in Lawrence, Kansas, which was chosen by the screenwriters as a way to dramatize how nuclear war would affect everyone. During the Cold War, it was theorized that Lawrence, Kansas would be one of the few cities completely unaffected by nuclear war as it is near the exact geographic center of the United States.

Not the same, trust me. And I'd venture to guess that any impressionable youth that watched "The Day After" in its day would agree with me.

"The Day After" sent chills up a nation of youngsters' spines - including mine. Not only was it a landmark presentation, it was a terrifying depiction of an event that always seemed right around the corner at the time. I was 13 or 14 and I remember reading about teens having committed suicide after having watched "The Day After." I doubt many felt the same impulse after watching "Jericho."

I watched "Jericho" - it was OK, but they have work to do if it's going to become part of my regular viewing habits. The nuclear event could have been much more dramatic. I love "The Killers" song they opened with - "All These Things That I Have Done." It worked better at the end of "The Matador" though.

[jmallory]

I mean it wasn't bad, a few technical faults that have been mentioned here already (seeing the explosion from that far off, assuming it was Denver.) A couple points on the attack.

1.) Seems unlikely it was an attack from another major power with ballistic missile capability. Our early warning system would have detected them at launch and the President would not have had a address.

2.) Seems unlikely it was external terrorists as they would have had a hard time making bombs that big (in the megatons) and getting them transported to their targets in time for a coordinated attack.

3.) The only weapon delivery system I can think of that can deliver a large enough weapon without being detected would be a cruise missile.

4.) If we assume it was a cruise missile, I doubt terrorists would have access to that many of them. It had to be someone with a large military.

5.) To strike Denver, a ship launched cruise missile would have to be parked pretty close to US shoreline. I would believe our military would have detected that.

6.) This leaves only the US military (or members of) as the most likely suspects.

I believe the US military may have staged a coup using nuclear weapons in a "shock and awe" move on the US population to lower resistance.

Additional points...

The show clearly showed the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Congress for the President's address (all the civilian and military leaders in one place)

The Cop from St. Louis seems to know a little too much and is just a little too calm. He knows something about the attack and who is responsible.

The power goes out a few hours after the initial attack. If the attack was massive enough to cause grid problems, the blackout should have happened sooner. I believe someone has turned the power off.

I believe the attack was limited in scope and may have not affected most major cities (Washington may have been hit to cripple leadership, New York and LA hit to cripple communications, Atlanta may have been a targeted to knock out CNN. Not sure what Denver's value may have been.) Also if it was more of a massive attack, the entire sky all around Jericho should have been lit up. The fact that only see one flash (dramatized here with the actual mushroom cloud) means there may have not been that many targets.

Something to consider...

-- Jim

[jmallory]

Another clue may been in the Mayor's speech at the end when he said the phrase "against all enemies." I wasn't in the military but isn't part of the military oath, "to defend the United States, against all enemies, foreign or domestic ?

Also, the nuclear explosions may have been used to confuse the public and allow the military time to ...

1.) Secure power generating plants. This would allow them to cut off the power (and after an attack, who would think anything nefarious about the military "protecting" the power plants?)

2.) Secure communications, take TV/Radio off the air. Take over Telephone Central Offices (cutting off voice and data transmissions)

I think this reenforces the idea that only certain cities were hit. If you hit Washington, New York, LA, and Atlanta...you basically take out leadership, the major broadcast networks, and the major news networks. I still have no idea what is Denver worth striking. Maybe a local can help.

-- Jim

[kmj0577]

Another clue may been in the Mayor's speech at the end when he said the phrase "against all enemies." I wasn't in the military but isn't part of the military oath, "to defend the United States, against all enemies, foreign or domestic ?

Also, the nuclear explosions may have been used to confuse the public and allow the military time to ...

1.) Secure power generating plants. This would allow them to cut off the power (and after an attack, who would think anything nefarious about the military "protecting" the power plants?)

2.) Secure communications, take TV/Radio off the air. Take over Telephone Central Offices (cutting off voice and data transmissions)

I think this reenforces the idea that only certain cities were hit. If you hit Washington, New York, LA, and Atlanta...you basically take out leadership, the major broadcast networks, and the major news networks. I still have no idea what is Denver worth striking. Maybe a local can help.

-- Jim
Don't know about just straight on Denver, but around Denver is a lot of military stuff.

[tcable]

Denver has a lot of satellite uplink capability, plus some military- Cheyenne Mountain, NORAD HQ who would have seen it coming if air delivered.

[ncxcstud]

Colorado is also a state that has many nuclear warheads...

That could play into the whole 'military coup' setting as well...

I like the way you're thinking though Jmallory...that's the beauty of these shows...you have no idea whats going to happen, until the show actually tells you...

[Don H]

Pretty borrrringgg. Not half as frighting as Stephen King's "The Stand".

[NetworkTV]

I think this reenforces the idea that only certain cities were hit. If you hit Washington, New York, LA, and Atlanta...you basically take out leadership, the major broadcast networks, and the major news networks. I still have no idea what is Denver worth striking. Maybe a local can help.

-- Jim
I believe several broadcast facilities are located there, including DirecTV and HDNet. In addition, the area outside Denver is a hotbed of minutemen missle controls for silos in Colorado....and Kansas. I believe there is also a pretty good amount of land devoted to military bases.

If that weren't enough, I believe Denver is also a big hub and crosspoint for this little computer network known as the Internet.

[jmallory]

Denver has a lot of satellite uplink capability, plus some military- Cheyenne Mountain, NORAD HQ who would have seen it coming if air delivered.

I don't know if the Air Defense network within the US would be able to see a cruise missile launched from within the country hugging the terrain. I think the only real detection of that would have been people calling in asking what just buzzed their homes on the path to its target. The military would definately have the knowledge of what route to the target took it over the least populated areas and they have the logistic capability to get the missile as close to the target as possible shortening the time that people had to figure out what was going on. The time to target could have possibly been less than five minutes. (at 500 mph the missile could have travelled 41 miles...more than far enough way.

-- Jim

[jmallory]

I believe several broadcast facilities are located there, including DirecTV and HDNet. In addition, the area outside Denver is a hotbed of minutemen missle controls for silos in Colorado....and Kansas. I believe there is also a pretty good amount of land devoted to military bases.

If that weren't enough, I believe Denver is also a big hub and crosspoint for this little computer network known as the Internet.

I had totally forgot about DirecTV's hub being in Denver...that would make sense to to knock out some additional communications capability.

[Vuce]

I have a relative that works on the show. She said that she is a little concerned about episodes 3 through 7 or 8 because there is a ton of dialogue and not much actin or anything. She is worried that the audience may drop off during those weeks because not much is going on. I'm not sold on this show at all.

[SixkillerNYC]

I give Jericho an enthusiastic thumbs down so far.

Pluses:

The dude form Snatch
The answering machine message
The guy who played Skip Muck in Band of Brothers

Minuses:

Just about every other cast member. The older brother from Odyssey 5? The deaf girl from Weeds? The partner from Kindergarten Cop? Major Dad? Come on.

Pop music from three years ago. Yes, that certainly adds a feeling of gravity, fellas.

The boring and predictable melodrama.

overall:

the music was really silly, and the whole show felt like it was trying to be a hip family drama while keeping its Lost sensibilities. I felt pandered to.

I was checking to see how much longer it was going to last about halfway through. I'll give it one more week, though. It has potential.

[Vampz26]

Another clue may been in the Mayor's speech at the end when he said the phrase "against all enemies." I wasn't in the military but isn't part of the military oath, "to defend the United States, against all enemies, foreign or domestic ?

Also, the nuclear explosions may have been used to confuse the public and allow the military time to ...

1.) Secure power generating plants. This would allow them to cut off the power (and after an attack, who would think anything nefarious about the military "protecting" the power plants?)

2.) Secure communications, take TV/Radio off the air. Take over Telephone Central Offices (cutting off voice and data transmissions)

I think this reenforces the idea that only certain cities were hit. If you hit Washington, New York, LA, and Atlanta...you basically take out leadership, the major broadcast networks, and the major news networks. I still have no idea what is Denver worth striking. Maybe a local can help.

-- Jim


Well...the "who" and "how" are probably going to be ongoing plot threads throughout the series...

My best guess? Standard issue ICBMs launced globally due to some royal screwup, computer bug or something...and of course, the government suppressing any knowledge of the launches in order to prevent widespread panic and confusion, hence the 'surprise' attack...

A show like this just would work without some top-secret coverup taking place in the background of all this drama...

[posg]

sucked

[Wolfie]

It was a big yawn. Sloppy is the word.

My sentiments exactly.

Wolfie

[Iteki]

I'm curious to see what's really happening....global thermonuclear war, domestic coup?

Yes, the 'cop' from St Louis (guy from Snatch) is an intriguing character...what the heck is he even doing there? Moved there recently, but why?

Things I liked:

1) The answering machine message was chilling
2) When told "I didn't know your parents were even IN Denver", he responds "They weren't....they were in Atlanta" That sent a jolt through me....very well done. Any thoughts of it being a hoax, or an isolated incident went away right there.
3) St Louis cop
4) Dead birds on the road...nasty

Dislikes:

1) Skeet...don't know much about him...hard to root for him. He saved the busload of kids, but makes no mention of the 2 people who were killed in the head-on collision (not his fault, but still warrants mentioning).
2) Prioner bus....a bit of contrived drama that removes the Sheriff from the picture and puts some danger out there.

Like I said, I'll give it a few more episodes to see if they can deliver on the chills and information. I hope they learn from Invasion's mistake and gives some answers in a timely manner. Invasion waited WAY too long to hit their stride and it cost them.

***EDIT***

Forgot to mention this, but anyone who compares this to the Day After is comparing apples to oranges. That movie was an EVENT...scared the bejeezus out of any kid (I was 12-13 at the time) and adult who watched it. The bleak nuclear winter, the lack of hope were difficult to watch. And at the time it seemed VERY plausible...4-5 nations all had loaded pistols pointed at one another, and any small misunderstanding/conflict had the potential to set it all off.

This series seems like a social experiment 'what if' of how regular americans would react to an emergency like this...

[Vampz26]

Well...the "who" and "how" are probably going to be ongoing plot threads throughout the series...

My best guess? Standard issue ICBMs launced globally due to some royal screwup, computer bug or something...and of course, the government suppressing any knowledge of the launches in order to prevent widespread panic and confusion, hence the 'surprise' attack...

A show like this just would work without some top-secret coverup taking place in the background of all this drama...

OH! And don't forget the hometown 'every man' hero on a quest to expose this hienous activity!

:D

[bphisig]

I thought the show was ok, I'm definitely going to keep watching to see what happens. But I have a few questions/issues.

1) Do they really expect us to believe that you can see mountains etc. from Kansas? Give me a break. Like someone said above, Denver is towards the middle of Colorado, so it's not like it's 50 miles from Jericho. I didn't even realize that Jericho is not a real town. But I remember the sign they showed at the beginning of the show said it was 396 miles from Kansas City. Where on I-70 would that be? Anyone with a lot of extra time on their hands?

2) Did the school bus just run off the road, presumably due to the shock of seeing the explosion? I must have missed that. Same thing with the prison bus...what's the deal there?

3) It's so easy to be connected in today's world, it's really hard to believe that these guys have NO way to communicate with anyone. I think I can accept the fact that they are completely shut off from everyone else, but it's something that's always going to linger as far as I'm concerned.

4) Major Dad? Seriously?

[posg]

The most ridiculous part of the show is it's depiction of the people who live in small towns in western Kansas.

They don't look, act, or think like anybody on this show.

[darthrsg]

You guys are going too deep. I really hope we get 'Mad Max Beyond Kansas'. I really liked the first ep.

[archiguy]

4) Major Dad? Seriously?

Oh yeah, seriously. Didn't you see his knockout performance this past season on 'Deadwood'? After seeing that, besides locking up the best supporting actor Emmy for next year because of that role, you'll never see him as "Major Dad" again. He was simply astounding.

[jmallory]

3) It's so easy to be connected in today's world, it's really hard to believe that these guys have NO way to communicate with anyone. I think I can accept the fact that they are completely shut off from everyone else, but it's something that's always going to linger as far as I'm concerned.

I have been in parts of West Viriginia that no cell phones work and if you hit seek on a digital FM tuner in a car it finds nothing (and that is before the nukes fell.) So I don't have a big problem with the town losing its ability to communicate. I did find it unusal that the local Ham Radio operator did not have a Shortwave. That would have come in handy, esspecially if it was battery powered.

[jblank74]

The most ridiculous part of the show is it's depiction of the people who live in small towns in western Kansas.

They don't look, act, or think like anybody on this show.

Picky, picky, picky.

The show isn't perfect, but overall I enjoyed it and so did the wife. We're anxious for the next episode and I see us sticking with it.

[Gary Quiring]

I thought the show was pretty boring. I will watch a few more episodes to give it a shot because you never know it could be another Invasion where it takes time to build the characters and plot.

[posg]

I'll give it one more shot, but really, even in western Kansas there's another town 10 miles away in any direction.

I wonder how the writers will believably "isolate" this one town from the rest of the world.

[Jolard]

Personally I thought it was good, not spectacular. I will definitely be giving it a few more episodes at least to catch me.

I thought that the pacing was well done. Sure not much happened in the town itself, but it wouldn't. Fallout is coming next week, and I am sure we will get "others" coming from other towns looking for sanctuary in Jericho (care of the foreshadowing "make sure you black out the Jericho name on the side of the police car!").

I am interested in what happened, what was Skeet doing for the last 5 years, and who the hell is the St Luis Cop.

I do get bugged by suspension of deisbelief problems though, there is no way they would have been able to see Denver, but I give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

[sangs]

Oh yeah, seriously. Didn't you see his knockout performance this past season on 'Deadwood'? After seeing that, besides locking up the best supporting actor Emmy for next year because of that role, you'll never see him as "Major Dad" again. He was simply astounding.


You beat me to it arch. Anybody that watched "Deadwood" knows that "Major Dad" can be a Major Badass. I wonder if he grew the beard for "Jericho" or "Deadwood?"

[VideoJames]

I have been in parts of West Viriginia that no cell phones work and if you hit seek on a digital FM tuner in a car it finds nothing (and that is before the nukes fell.) So I don't have a big problem with the town losing its ability to communicate. I did find it unusal that the local Ham Radio operator did not have a Shortwave. That would have come in handy, esspecially if it was battery powered.

I can almost buy the premise of the town being unable to communicate, except they didn't show a single person attempting to use the internet. There would be at least the telephone and cable company service, and possibly satellite and Wifi type services. Not even Blackberry or pager services?

Years ago it was claimed that the design of the internet was so robust, it could survive a nuclear war. Sure doesn't seem like the case in Jericho.

[sangs]

Forgot to mention this, but anyone who compares this to the Day After is comparing apples to oranges. That movie was an EVENT...scared the bejeezus out of any kid (I was 12-13 at the time) and adult who watched it. The bleak nuclear winter, the lack of hope were difficult to watch. And at the time it seemed VERY plausible...4-5 nations all had loaded pistols pointed at one another, and any small misunderstanding/conflict had the potential to set it all off.

Amen. That scene where the nukes are flying over Arrowhead Stadium and nobody has a clue in "The Day After" was spine-tingling. I remember when my grammar school offered counseling to anybody that had watched it. Scary.

[posg]

Kids in a school bus. Gee I wonder who came up with that original idea.

[posg]

I am interested in what happened, what was Skeet doing for the last 5 years, and who the hell is the St Luis Cop.

A more interesting question is how much was his parking garage toll having been parked there for five years. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[SixkillerNYC]

You guys are going too deep. I really hope we get 'Mad Max Beyond Kansas'. I really liked the first ep.

I saw nothing "Mad max" about the first episode at all. Silly melodrama, three year old pop music, and a bunch of one-dimensional characters so far.

Let's hope it gets better, but it's not off to a great start.

[SixkillerNYC]

A more interesting question is how much was his parking garage toll having been parked there for five years. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I thought the same thing! Maybe as the son of a small town mayor in a neighboring state he got free parking :)

[keenan]

The "St Louis cop"? My money's on him being one of the escaped prisoners from the bus.

I'm not sure about this show, it will be interesting to see how they handle the radioactive fallout issue, or if they even handle it at all. They're going to run out of food very fast...small towns generally don't have their own fuel-burning power plants do they?...which is what they would have to have if their going to have the power back on...I don't know, depending on how they portray these issues and others will be a big factor for me in whether I continue to watch or not. IOW, if they send a team into Denver to get food, then that would be a jump the shark moment.

[fredfa]

From Marc Berman’s Thursday, September 21, 2006, Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com )
Primetime Ratings For Wednesday, September 20th

”… the big surprise in the time period was the unexpected sampling for the debut of CBS drama Jericho. Jericho finished a solid second with a 7.7/12 in the overnights, 11.40 million viewers and a 3.2/10 among adults 18-49. Comparably, the year-ago season-premieres of former occupants Still Standing and Yes, Dear averaged a considerably softer 5.1/ 8 in the overnights, 7.05 million viewers and a 2.4/ 7 among adults 18-49 (on Wednesday, Sept, 21, 2005). But will viewers be back for week two of Jericho?...”

• Source: Nielsen Media Research data

[FreeBaGeL]

I was really bummed when Invasion was not renewed for a second season as having Lost and Invasion accounting for nearly all my non-sports related TV watching on the same night really made it an evening to look forward to.

I was hoping that Jericho could take the place of Invasion on Wednesdays and while it has potential, I don't think it will ever be what Invasion was. As others have said, the phone message scene was chilling and seeing a mushroom cloud is always fun on TV, but other than that it was pretty bland. I'm not liking the developing B-plot of the prisoners' escape either....seems like useless filler.

I've watched enough slow starting TV shows to have learned to give the show plenty of time to prove itself so I'll keep watching, albeit with less enthusiasm than I had after seeing the previews.

[celticpride]

can someone please tell me the artist or the name of the song at the end of the show where the girl got out of the car and saw all those birds on the ground? I love that song the only other time i heard it was during an hbo commercial for the sopranos last spring .

[Steve Schauer]

I can almost buy the premise of the town being unable to communicate, except they didn't show a single person attempting to use the internet. There would be at least the telephone and cable company service, and possibly satellite and Wifi type services. Not even Blackberry or pager services?

Years ago it was claimed that the design of the internet was so robust, it could survive a nuclear war. Sure doesn't seem like the case in Jericho.
Monday near me a tree fell across an overhead fiber optic line and cut off all 911, DSL, and most cell phone access on the Olympic Peninsula (about 80,000 people spread out over hundreds of square miles) for hours.

It could happen.

[dg28]

Didn't care for it at all. Whereas Lost is very compelling, this was a yawner. And I find nothing interesting about the characters and/or the actors playing them.

[RDK006]

The most ridiculous part of the show is it's depiction of the people who live in small towns in western Kansas.

They don't look, act, or think like anybody on this show.

Well the network does want people to actually watch the show - they can't make it too dul... lol

[JoeInNVa]

Wasn't there a show like this on Shotime a few years ago?

[jmallory]

I do get bugged by suspension of deisbelief problems though, there is no way they would have been able to see Denver, but I give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

I have been doing a little research but even though they wouldn't be able to see the mushroom cloud, they would have definately have noticed the light. Now, of course, the kid looking into a bright spot of light from over the horizon isn't terribly dramatic and I would suspect most people would not realize what was giving off that light so I think they were forced to show a mushroom cloud. If for nothing else, just to make sure all the viewers knew what has happening. I am going to allow them to take a little creative license here.

Another intersting thought is that if this present day, I wonder if any of those kids had even seen a mushroom cloud before...

-- Jim

[jmallory]

I can almost buy the premise of the town being unable to communicate, except they didn't show a single person attempting to use the internet. There would be at least the telephone and cable company service, and possibly satellite and Wifi type services. Not even Blackberry or pager services?

Years ago it was claimed that the design of the internet was so robust, it could survive a nuclear war. Sure doesn't seem like the case in Jericho.

Yep and the Levees in NOLA where so robust they could survive a Category 3 Hurricane and looked how THAT turned out.

I have been in places where Cell phones, pagers, and blackberries don't work now. For exmaple, my Blackberry does not work where my parents live in the Tri-state area where Ohio, West Virginia, and Pennslyvania meet (Stubenville OH, Weirton WV area). It is very easy to lose cell phone coverage as you travel. Wifi is all but non existent down there and I am sure Internet service is routed through Pittsburgh and Cleveland so if you lost those two cities, they would not have any Internet even if the local dialup ports and broadband services were still active. About the only thing I would imagine that would still work would be a satellite phone and I don't think you are going to find one in such a small town.

Remember how much the Internet was disrupted in the US on 9/11 because all the Internet traffic was routed through some Verizon POP at WTC? That damage was contained within a 1 sq. mi. area of one city. Imagine what would happen if all or most of the major pops were hit?

[posg]

Monday near me a tree fell across an overhead fiber optic line and cut off all 911, DSL, and most cell phone access on the Olympic Peninsula (about 80,000 people spread out over hundreds of square miles) for hours.

It could happen.

Not in west Kansas, for a couple of reasons. Long haul fiber is always buried, but more importantly, there AREN'T any trees.

[jblank74]

Not in west Kansas, for a couple of reasons. Long haul fiber is always buried, but more importantly, there AREN'T any trees.

I think you're forgetting that they don't have power and that its obvious other cities (possibly a lot of them) have been hit.

[posg]

Well the network does want people to actually watch the show - they can't make it too dul... lol

Then they should have picked a better location, like Aspen, or some other mountain resort where an avalanche could have really isolated the town, and communications was already naturally blocked by the terrain. But Kansas, dumb, dumb, dumb. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[jblank74]

Then they should have picked a better location, like Aspen, or some other mountain resort where an avalanche could have really isolated the town, and communications was already naturally blocked by the terrain. But Kansas, dumb, dumb, dumb. :mad: :mad: :mad:


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There are some nits for ya to pick. :p Come on man, lighten up a bit.

[posg]

I think you're forgetting that they don't have power and that its obvious other cities (possibly a lot of them) have been hit.

The fiber infrastucture in the US is redundant many times over, and is backed up with alternative power sources, battery and generator, at all critical locations.

And did Dish Network and DirecTV both lose their main and redundant uplink facilities all at about the same time.

Sorry, this might have made a good Twilight Zone episode back in the 50's, but anybody who understands anything about 2006 communications will find the entire premise laughable.

[posg]

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There are some nits for ya to pick. :p Come on man, lighten up a bit.

No way. This is a great show to bash. :D :D :D

[jmallory]

Not in west Kansas, for a couple of reasons. Long haul fiber is always buried, but more importantly, there AREN'T any trees.

And it really doesn't matter if the fiber is buried if there isn't anything on the other end of it. For the most part, Central Offices are not hardened facilities.

Also I would also point out that I live in Detroit and in the last big power outage...Cellular service was pretty much useless almost immediately. In the first few hours, so many people were trying to use the service that you couldn't setup a call and then a few hours later the backup batteries went dead. There were some towers that had generator power but they were few and far between and I am sure more generators have been added since but this was in a big city. I could see the one cell tower in Jeracho not having a generator and then the batteries going dead after the power went out.

[keenan]

No way. This is a great show to bash. :D :D :D
Yeah, so far, that's what I'm thinking too, maybe we can have a "Most Unbelievable and Ludicrous Moment" award, of course it would be constantly updated as I'm sure there will be more than one. :p

[jmallory]

The fiber infrastucture in the US is redundant many times over, and is backed up with alternative power sources, battery and generator, at all critical locations.

And did Dish Network and DirecTV both lose their main and redundant uplink facilities all at about the same time.

Sorry, this might have made a good Twilight Zone episode back in the 50's, but anybody who understands anything about 2006 communications will find the entire premise laughable.

As a communications engineer that deals with the "redundant many times over" US system on a daily basis DO NOT believe what the telcos tell you...there are a lot of weak links in these networks that bring down sizable parts of the network on a daily basis. I have sites that have two leased lines AND dial backup and if the right cable gets cut or the right Central Office goes down we will lose the location. In fact, most of our outages are not caused by a our non-redundant premises equipment but in fact caused by the "highly redundant" telco system.

-- Jim

[posg]

As a communications engineer that deals with the "redundant many times over" US system on a daily basis DO NOT believe what the telcos tell you...there are a lot of weak links in these networks that bring down sizable parts of the network on a daily basis. I have sites that have two leased lines AND dial backup and if the right cable gets cut or the right Central Office goes down we will lose the location. In fact, most of our outages are not caused by a our non-redundant premises equipment but in fact caused by the "highly redundant" telco system.

-- Jim

Even in west Kansas, one would expect to get a couple of dozen AM/FM broadcast channels from a variety of locations, and of course satellite service. If they don't address scientific believablity, they will lose their audience out the gate.

[NetworkTV]

As a communications engineer that deals with the "redundant many times over" US system on a daily basis DO NOT believe what the telcos tell you...there are a lot of weak links in these networks that bring down sizable parts of the network on a daily basis. I have sites that have two leased lines AND dial backup and if the right cable gets cut or the right Central Office goes down we will lose the location. In fact, most of our outages are not caused by a our non-redundant premises equipment but in fact caused by the "highly redundant" telco system.

-- Jim
Very true. My web server normally has a 98% uptime record. Of that remaining 2%, half is time to reboot once a month for my Tuesday Microsoft patch fix and the other half is AT&T. My internal network and system hardware is so far 100% reliable. If I could afford to have a duplicate server, I'd have 99% uptime by still be up for the few minutes each month I apply patches. As it is, it's cheaper to put that money toward mirroring the data to another drive in the same server in case one fails, rather than run a second machine just for 4AM - 4:03AM one Tuesday each month. The Internet connection I can't do anything about, so I'll never be 100%.

[bobby94928]

1) Do they really expect us to believe that you can see mountains etc. from Kansas? Give me a break. Like someone said above, Denver is towards the middle of Colorado, so it's not like it's 50 miles from Jericho. I didn't even realize that Jericho is not a real town. But I remember the sign they showed at the beginning of the show said it was 396 miles from Kansas City. Where on I-70 would that be? Anyone with a lot of extra time on their hands?

Well, Goodland, KS is about 400 road miles west of KC and is close to the Colorado border. From Goodland to Denver is about 130 miles as the crow flys. This is pretty flat country both in Kansas and the east part of Colorado. You are not going to see any mountains in between. The mushroom, on the other hand, is quite possible.

[keenan]

Even in west Kansas, one would expect to get a couple of dozen AM/FM broadcast channels from a variety of locations, and of course satellite service. If they don't address scientific believablity, they will lose their audience out the gate.
This is a good point, unless they had cable TV, which would explain why the TV went off, otherwise if they were close enough to get Denver stations OTA, then they were close enough to have been impacted by the bomb itself.

No satellite is easily explained by having the uplink facilities lost to the bomb.

[archiguy]

Then they should have picked a better location, like Aspen, or some other mountain resort where an avalanche could have really isolated the town, and communications was already naturally blocked by the terrain. But Kansas, dumb, dumb, dumb. :mad: :mad: :mad:

The multiple emoticons led me immediately to your last sentence where I assumed you were making a comment on Kansas' seemingly endless battle (along with Pennsylvania and Georgia) over replacing the teaching of evolution with creationism in their public school science classrooms. Thermonuclear war seems almost tame by comparison. :D

[posg]

As a communications engineer that deals with the "redundant many times over" US system on a daily basis DO NOT believe what the telcos tell you...there are a lot of weak links in these networks that bring down sizable parts of the network on a daily basis. I have sites that have two leased lines AND dial backup and if the right cable gets cut or the right Central Office goes down we will lose the location. In fact, most of our outages are not caused by a our non-redundant premises equipment but in fact caused by the "highly redundant" telco system.

-- Jim

I have also been a communications engineer. The four 9's aren't much of a stretch these days.

[trbarry]

I think I might like this show but it is really too soon to tell. Eventually there may be just too many improbable events with no justification that will make it too hard to "suspend disbelief".

But it is certainly interesting enough for me to follow it for at least a couple more episodes.

- Tom

[posg]

The multiple emoticons led me immediately to your last sentence where I assumed you were making a comment on Kansas' seemingly endless battle (along with Pennsylvania and Georgia) over replacing the teaching of evolution with creationism in their public school science classrooms. Thermonuclear war seems almost tame by comparison. :D

Well, it wasn't my intent, but if the shoe fits...... :D :D :D

[Brainodo]

I'm a sucker for anything involving Kansas, and I'm also a fan of post-apocalyptic dramas (therefore "The Day After" is perfection to me, despite its many flaws).

Have you ever seen 'Threads' (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090163/)? The UK equivalent of The Day After but far, far more bleak. I lived in (West) Germany at the time and it scared the hell out of us forces kids.

[posg]

This is a good point, unless they had cable TV, which would explain why the TV went off, otherwise if they were close enough to get Denver stations OTA, then they were close enough to have been impacted by the bomb itself.

No satellite is easily explained by having the uplink facilities lost to the bomb.

Except that both Dish and DirecTV have redundant uplink locations in entirely different geographic locations. I simply won't buy the loss of all communication links in as short a period of time as depicted in this show.

[Argee]

Remember the entire premise of this show is there MIGHT have been a nuc strike. Its supposed to be unclear what is going on and it can deal with any number of things and IF the show survives there will be many questions brought up some without any clear explanations ala LOST.

[John Mason]

Also read that Jericho could be a 'Lost'-like series, so perhaps the ambiguities and fudging will be endlessly extended. Suspect I'll tune out after a few more episodes if they're planning cat-and-mouse games indefinitely. -- John

[Argee]

One wonders if the creators of the show have a clear cut idea as to where it will lead or are they going to make it up on the fly?

[stephenC]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/

On the Beach - still my favorite post nuke war book and movie.

[keenan]

Except that both Dish and DirecTV have redundant uplink locations in entirely different geographic locations. I simply won't buy the loss of all communication links in as short a period of time as depicted in this show.
I should have said bomb(s), I'm guessing the implication of the Atlanta bomb is that all the major areas had been hit.

You know, it could have been Charlie Ergen and Ted Turner resorting to violence over some contract negotiation. :eek: :D

[keenan]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/

On the Beach - still my favorite post nuke war book and movie.
Yes, that was excellent.

[posg]

Yes, that was excellent.

And plausable, intellegent, believable, and well acted. And no school bus full of children in distress as I recall.

[sangs]

Yeah, so far, that's what I'm thinking too, maybe we can have a "Most Unbelievable and Ludicrous Moment" award, of course it would be constantly updated as I'm sure there will be more than one. :p

Wouldn't matter if we did - all the awards would belong to "24" anyway. :)

[archiguy]

Wouldn't matter if we did - all the awards would belong to "24" anyway. :)

LOL! You must not watch 'Prison Break', my friend. :D

[sangs]

LOL! You must not watch 'Prison Break', my friend. :D

I do, but I still think "24" and its "real time events" stretch the imagination further.

[jerryez]

Invasion, Surface and another one that I can't even remember the name of all were canceled in the first season in 2005. Does Jericho even stand a chance.

[archiguy]

Invasion, Surface and another one that I can't even remember the name of all were canceled in the first season in 2005. Does Jericho even stand a chance.

Based on ratings for the premiere, I'd say "yes". But it's still early, obviously.

[jmallory]

I have also been a communications engineer. The four 9's aren't much of a stretch these days.

Depending on what it is and how it is measured...no it's not. Trust me, we got our fair share of credits for our vendors not meeting their SLAs and I can also tell you that our vendors fight us on most of them.

-- Jim

[pappy97]

Seems like a good mix between Lost and Invasion...More so like Invasion, but with the constant questioning of Lost...

pretty good mix, I enjoyed it, this show has my interest now ;)

I actually I smell more of a LOST wannabe here. Seems like the whole Skeet Ulrich character being gone for 5 years is a set up for flashbacks, and somehow as the season (or seasons if it is any good) progresses, we will find out he has a connection to what "happened."

I was a bit disappointed last night because I thought the show begins after this attack occured and that everyone knows an attack occured. I would have liked to have seen the show start from there, not the way it did "Deep Imact" style. The show better not be a disaster movie turned into a disaster drama. There needs to be mix of drama of the people in town and the mysterious sci-fi element (hence the obvious connection to LOST).

I'll still give it a chance, but with a skeptical eye.

[mullet34]

can someone please tell me the artist or the name of the song at the end of the show where the girl got out of the car and saw all those birds on the ground? I love that song the only other time i heard it was during an hbo commercial for the sopranos last spring .

Snow Patrol - Run

[Paradox-SJ]

I will be shocked if it last the whole season...Just like Threshhold...The big 4 networks have very lil patience for SciFi.

[JohnS-MI]

Except that both Dish and DirecTV have redundant uplink locations in entirely different geographic locations. I simply won't buy the loss of all communication links in as short a period of time as depicted in this show.

Nukes ==> EMP ==> dead radios, toasted ionosphere, etc.

One might argue to be realistic, the loss should have been instantaneous. I doubt civilian comsats are adequately hardened for nuclear blast EMP. "Locally" (and I mean a thousand miles, or much of the US) this would be much worse than a major solar storm.

If it were an ICBM strike against us, and we struck back, there wouldn't be radio communications on the planet until the ionosphere settled back down, and many radio receivers connected to antennas would be toast.

[jim tressler]

I thought it was decent.. I'll give it a second look - but I wonder how long can they drag this out witout answering the question of what happend?? - lost does it very well.. but I think they have many more dynamics to strectch the story..

[Rakesh.S]

I will be shocked if it last the whole season...Just like Threshhold...The big 4 networks have very lil patience for SciFi.

From what I can tell, there isn't going to be much sci-fi here (i.e. aliens, paranormal and supernatural phenomena).

This will likely evolve into a sappy melodrama, seeing how it is on CBS or it'll turn into CSI: Jericho, where they're hunting someone/something down every week. The same thing happened with Threshold - all they did was run after the infectee of the week.

[mds54]

Another intersting thought is that if this present day, I wonder if any of those kids had even seen a mushroom cloud before...
-- Jim

I was wondering about that too, and even thought about it further after the show....
would a kid that age realize what he was seeing, or is he just wondering about
what he's looking at?

Just curious......to parents here with young kids: would your child
recognize a nuclear mushroom cloud for what it is and what it means?

[sangs]

Just curious......to parents here with young kids: would your child
recognize a nuclear mushroom cloud for what it is and what it means?

Not a chance - yet. But, sadly, they know what a southern NYC sky filled with smoldering smoke for over a month means.

[huberjgl]

Jericho will be re broadcast Saturday on CBS in HD,
for those who missed all or part of it on Wednesday.

8pm ET/PT, 7pm CT/MT.


Skeet was here in Utah doing a promotional tour to all the CBS O&O's, and the subject of no mountains between Kansas and Denver was brought up, to be met by groans by both Skeet and his publicist,
I guess they're a bit tired of it.

I didn't really watch, as I was airing it, so I HD TiVo'd it for possible watching later.
It seemed though, every time I paid attention while I was airing it I saw content that was hashed to death by the promos, mushroom cloud over mts, kids in school bus, radio silence.
At least they got all of that out of the way in the premiere, so maybe the next episode will be "new".


Jerry

[jefe noche]

Not a chance - yet. But, sadly, they know what a southern NYC sky filled with smoldering smoke for over a month means.

This is way off topic, but that just brought a tear to my eye...and I am a cynical bastard (with no children) :( .

[TommyK]

And I find nothing interesting about the characters and/or the actors playing them.

Not even Sprague Grayden?? I'm a big fan of hers.

[Enigma]

I wasn't impressed. I agree with the earlier comment that the only compelling actor is Gerald McRaney. But I'll give it a little more time to see how it goes.

[TTU1992]

The blond chick is hot. Didn't she play batman and cat woman's daughter a few years ago?

[celticpride]

thank you mullet34 for your reply that song has been on my mind for a long time!! I hope this show pans out although i have afeeling it will only last one season.

[CJPC]

Ok, I watched it, By no means am I a nuclear physisicist (i cant even spell it, take that grammar school)

Anywho, considering there have been so few shows, its a good thing to have one, no matter how flawed. (And TDA was one of the best out there, great)

Quite a few issues however.

We are assuming that they were nuclear blasts (99.999% that they were, due to the mulitiple strikes and radiation)

Second off, the initial blast, the EMP would have killed power, lights, cell phones etc, not made the TV's snowy, and cell phones disconnect, you could make the claim that they were just far enough away from the blast , but there towers were close enough, but it bogus, back in 62, a test knocked out streetlights in hawaii, from the EMP, and the test was only around 2 megatons, and was near 800 miles away.

Third, the kids mother, would have definately seen the flash, and the EMP would have taken the phone out then, not after you hear the pressure wave, and the "Oh my god"

Fourth, the old Geiger counters, were the old nice ones from Civil Defense, they would not have been calibrated mostlikely, dead batteries, and they did a quick inside check -> like thats gonna do any good.

Fifth, back to the blast, if they were in kansas, and saw it, it had to be mighty large, and that definately woulda knocked out power/cable etc, the CARS themselves, etc.

Sixth, Back in the day some select central offices were hardned, but figgure the ravages of time, fair enough on the phones not working.

The big flaw, is the lack of an EMP, outside of denver or atlanta, it just bugs me, power etc, should have been dead if tv towers and radio went out (you cant be 200 miles away, and get a strong tv signal, and a strong radio signal in a moving car, or a cell phone signal without some crazy high powers.

I suppose they shoulda checked up on some of this stuff, minor nitpicks, but huge issues. The guy on the message shouldnt have said "look at this" , if he was looking, he would have been flash-blinded by the blast itself, and the phone would have cut out (and NOT going to a dial tone, like everything does)

Comments? Heh. You can say TV license, but meh. Would a nuclear physiscist (sp!) comment (if we have one in-house)

[luv2chill]

As someone already said upthread, EMP effects are much less widespread if a nuke is detonated on the ground as opposed to an air burst. The one mushroom cloud we saw quite clearly involved the ground (air bursts do not). Therefore any EMP event would be quite limited in scope and would not affect Jericho hundreds of miles away.

[jmallory]

As someone already said upthread, EMP effects are much less widespread if a nuke is detonated on the ground as opposed to an air burst. The one mushroom cloud we saw quite clearly involved the ground (air bursts do not). Therefore any EMP event would be quite limited in scope and would not affect Jericho hundreds of miles away.

Actually low attitude airbursts do produce mushroom clouds as well. Other than that you are correct that the lower the weapon is detonated the less widespread the EMP effects are. When somone says one or two nukes could cause widespread EMP effects, they are referring to very high altitude airbursts.

Since we can be reasonably sure that ballastic missiles were not used (we would have gotten early warning), that leaves cruise missiles and weapons delivered via truck...these would have been at or very near ground level. This means, lots of fallout and localized EMP effects, less blast / heat effect.

As mentioned above, you would not have seen the mushroom cloud from that distance...but you would notice that the sky just got a whole lot brighter (especially versus a normal 6pm sky, there were clocks shown on screen before the explosion.) The mushroom cloud was placed there to make sure everyone was on the same page as to what was happening.

[Don H]

How convient that no one, especially the cops/mayors office, has a Sat phone.

[jmallory]

How convient that no one, especially the cops/mayors office, has a Sat phone.

I think if you did a survey of all the mayor and police departments in this country you would find that very few had them.

Also, if the terrestial network is down...who are you going to call?

What I do find puzzling is that the local ham radio operator does not have a shortwave radio or scanner.

-- Jim

[jblank74]

I suppose they shoulda checked up on some of this stuff, minor nitpicks, but huge issues. The guy on the message shouldnt have said "look at this" , if he was looking, he would have been flash-blinded by the blast itself, and the phone would have cut out (and NOT going to a dial tone, like everything does)

Comments? Heh. You can say TV license, but meh. Would a nuclear physiscist (sp!) comment (if we have one in-house)

Actually he wouldn't have been flash blinded. I've got Trinity: The Atomic Bomb movie and have watched it 10 times and at 200 miles away, the brightness would not be suficient enough to blind a person, temporarily, or permanently. If he was maybe 30-40 miles away, it would be a different story, but that part is accurately portrayed in the show.

[ncxcstud]

For a show that many on this forum have claimed to be a soon-to-be dud...you guys sure are talking a lot about it :)

Maybe, just MAYBE you think it's a bit better than what you've said...I'm not saying it's great by any means, but it's not terrible...it has some nitpicks, but when you think of the average american viewer, I don't think they're gonna say

"You can't see mountains in kansas!" More then likely, Uncle Joe-Bob is going to go to a map and say...but Kansas is right next to Colorado...of course you'd be able to...it's only like...an inch away from it (LOL).

Give it a couple weeks and see how it goes...

[posg]

For a show that many on this forum have claimed to be a soon-to-be dud...you guys sure are talking a lot about it :)

Maybe, just MAYBE you think it's a bit better than what you've said...I'm not saying it's great by any means, but it's not terrible...it has some nitpicks, but when you think of the average american viewer, I don't think they're gonna say

"You can't see mountains in kansas!" More then likely, Uncle Joe-Bob is going to go to a map and say...but Kansas is right next to Colorado...of course you'd be able to...it's only like...an inch away from it (LOL).

Give it a couple weeks and see how it goes...

This show is obviously CBS's response to "Lost". When measured against "Lost", this show really is a disappointment. We expected a lot more.

The bad science is only the beginning of the problem. The reliance on cliche elements like escaped convicts, children in distress, incompetant cops, family squabbles, old high school romances, and the like, reminds me of a kid at the serve-yourself soda station mixing up what we used to call a "suicide".

It won't make it through the season.

[torque91]

I think the concept of this show is quite chilling especially if you keep reports like this in mind:
Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.
Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters

[grittree]

I was 13 or 14 and I remember reading about teens having committed suicide after having watched "The Day After." I doubt many felt the same impulse after watching "Jericho."


No suicides, but maybe a few people who were expecting a quality show were at least depressed.

[sangs]

No suicides, but maybe a few people who were expecting a quality show were at least depressed.

Heh, that's not a bad line. :)

[lax01]

So should we start a pool for how long it takes for this show to get cancelled? Or are all the old foggeys who watch CBS going to keep it alive? Honestly, I don't know how CBS has so many viewers with the programming it has...NOW that is truly a mystery of science

[CJPC]

The EMP on a groundburst makes sense, but jericho is just far enough away not to get hit by it, but there radio, tv and cell towers are? We all know how spotty cell coverage can be, and I doubt there tower is 20+ miles away.

Also, it does not explain the answering machine message, they were close enough to be (assumed) killed by the blast wave, which definately would have made them close enough to be the subject of the EMP, but the telephone did not cut out?

[mike_somd]

All of these nit being picked and no one mentions that the temp gauge on the bus was below the C. They could have atleast ran the bus to have realistic gauge readouts...

[TVOD]

Can you hear me now ... hello?

[posg]

So should we start a pool for how long it takes for this show to get cancelled? Or are all the old foggeys who watch CBS going to keep it alive? Honestly, I don't know how CBS has so many viewers with the programming it has...NOW that is truly a mystery of science

Or maybe CBS can morph it into CSI:Jericho or Survivor:Kansas.

[jblank74]

So should we start a pool for how long it takes for this show to get cancelled? Or are all the old foggeys who watch CBS going to keep it alive? Honestly, I don't know how CBS has so many viewers with the programming it has...NOW that is truly a mystery of science

I just shake my head at comments like these.

Ok big boy, time to put up or shut up, what do you watch on TV? Start listing.

[jefe noche]

I just shake my head at comments like these.

Ok big boy, time to put up or shut up, what do you watch on TV? Start listing.

OK...I hated the show as well so I will bite.

Lost
CSI (the original only)
The Office
My Name is Earl
Studio 60

I won't list the cable shows I watch, because that just isn't fair. I would call Lost and CSI "guilty pleasures" because they can by cheesy to the max sometimes. However, there is no way that you can convince me that this huge steamer is even close to the quality of these shows.

[jblank74]

Its been one show man, ONE SHOW. Shall we give it just a bit more time before damning it? I do find it interesting that you are into Studio 60 after one episode but willing to trash Jericho after one episode. Give them both time, then make a call.

I remember in 1993 TV Guide ripping the crap out of an obscure show on Fox, airing in the worst time slot possible, involving all sorts of bizarre events. They called it one of the worst new shows on TV that year. The shows name? The X-Files.

I'm gonna stick with Jericho, unless it just completely deteriorates, or it gets canned.

As to your attacking CBS, I don't think they deserve it. Not by any design, my wife and I watch more CBS than any other channel. They have some of the smartest programming on TV I think, and don't feel the need to fill their programming with mindless, generic, formulaic sitcoms (yes I know they have some), and their reality programming (TAR in particular) is fun to watch.

I thought you were being unfair to the network, thats why I chimed in.

[lax01]

I just shake my head at comments like these.

Ok big boy, time to put up or shut up, what do you watch on TV? Start listing.

Its a very long list...I typically enjoy anything with good writing: (I'll just list a few)

Lost
BSG
***these two are probably the BEST that television has to offer right now...just miles above this turd called Jericho
24 (when it airs in January)
Greys
Studio 60 (recently added)
Nip/Tuck
4400
Top Gear
Prison Break
Justice
Veronica Mars
Scrubs

I don't think I watch a single program on CBS...they're programming just ... well sucks.

[lax01]

Its been one show man, ONE SHOW. Shall we give it just a bit more time before damning it? I do find it interesting that you are into Studio 60 after one episode but willing to trash Jericho after one episode. Give them both time, then make a call.

Thats because it had GOOD writing, was INTERESTING, made SENSE, had SMART characters...something Jericho has nothing of

[luv2chill]

The EMP on a groundburst makes sense, but jericho is just far enough away not to get hit by it, but there radio, tv and cell towers are? We all know how spotty cell coverage can be, and I doubt there tower is 20+ miles away.

Also, it does not explain the answering machine message, they were close enough to be (assumed) killed by the blast wave, which definately would have made them close enough to be the subject of the EMP, but the telephone did not cut out?

Well this site (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:SrRT7SvC4C4J:travel.state.gov/travel/tips/health/health_1184.html+EMP+ground+burst&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8) indicates that a ground burst can have EMP effects up to two miles from ground zero. I believe that the blast wave would travel futher than that, so it is at least theoretically possible that the mother in Atlanta could still have had her cell phone connection by the time the blast hit.

And in Jericho itself, the TVs and radio were airing a live broadcast of a presidential address (from the heart of D.C.) So if DC was a direct target, then it would have been their transmission that went out, not Jericho's reception. The teacher's cell phone call is a little more puzzling, as presumably she was speaking with another teacher in Jericho (and furthermore, she must have been on an AMPS (analog) tower to hear the "static" type sounds, which is actually well within the realm of possibility considering Jericho's location.

Of course since we don't know the details of DC (or even if Denver itself was hit) then this is all fanwanking at this point. But assuming the cards fall in the right places then everything we've seen can be explained. It will just depend on whether the writers actually had the sense to consult experts on this or if they just wrote in this stuff because they saw it in a movie somewhere.

[archiguy]

Its a very long list...I typically enjoy anything with good writing: (I'll just list a few)

Lost
BSG
***these two are probably the BEST that television has to offer right now...

I agree with that 100%. Those would also be my picks for the very best TV on TV right now.

Haven't watched 'Jericho' yet; have it on my DVR, scheduled for Tuesday. These have been some decidedly mixed reviews here on AVS, though. I figure I'll like it at least for Gerald McRaney; he just knocked me flat-out on my butt this summer during his run on 'Deadwood'. He is truly a Master Thespian! :cool:

[dweebe]

Show won't last the season. Poor writing, tons of cliches, bad science etc all doom it. Plus how many hot chicks could there be in a town that small?


Also; I took a class back in college concerning nuclear weapons. It's been over 20 years but I'm a bit rusty.

The EMP pulse that took out Hawaii was a shot into the very high atmosphere; something like 60 to 70 miles. That's why it covered a long range. Ground bursts would have a much smaller EMP range.

The call from Atlanta was obviously for dramatic effect. There would have been no time for her to respond.

Nobody In Kansas could have seen the blast or mushroom clouds. The only way would have been if the attacks used some of the old 15 to 20 megaton monsters the Soviets had. However those have been long been retired since a missle with 8 smaller warheads would do a lot more damage.

[uncrph90]

Did anyone watch Sum of All Fears (most recent mediocre Tom Clancy adaptation?) The had a scene with a pretty realistic effect of a nearby low yield ground burst. There was a scene in a hospital with an Outside Flash TV Monitor Static/Fraction of a Second, then/Shock Wave. It's possible to do it with real science and still be dramatic. (Not necessarily the whole movie, mind you!)

We should be able to cut some slack for dramatic effect; a bright area on the horizon isn't as striking as a mushroom cloud and the reveal of the phone call from Atlanta was pretty cool, if unrealistic.

That stuff isn't what disappointed me, it is the hackneyed cliches like the juice box straw tracheotomy, the escaped prisoners--ooohhh scary--the stranded bus of kids and the slimy wish I was mayor dude. I can accept stretched realism for interesting dramatic effect, but can they not get enough tension out of a possible civilization ending scenario without resorting to gimmicks in the pilot?

I'll give it a couple of more chances, but I'm not as optimistic as I was earlier this week.

[alivenumber5]

Even with the cliche's and the missed science, I tend to give shows a chance because of the concept. It's a pretty daunting thing you have to admit. Possible armageddon

[CPanther95]

Good enough to keep watching - but still not sure how long they can maintain the isolation. It's not an island, eventually they'd have to send out a scout to find out what the hell is going on - assuming the lines of communication stay down. It'd only take a few days to travel anywhere in the country to get some answers then a few days to return. :confused:

[trbarry]

Good enough to keep watching - but still not sure how long they can maintain the isolation. It's not an island, eventually they'd have to send out a scout to find out what the hell is going on - assuming the lines of communication stay down. It'd only take a few days to travel anywhere in the country to get some answers then a few days to return. :confused:

Eventually someone will say "Hey, why don't we get into a car and go see how the next town is doing?". If they don't do that by the third episode I will scream and remove the show from my record list.

- Tom

[posg]

Eventually someone will say "Hey, why don't we get into a car and go see how the next town is doing?". If they don't do that by the third episode I will scream and remove the show from my record list.

- Tom

I'm waiting for the contrived reason that they can't do just that. Maybe the octane in all the gasoline got neutralized, or there's a giant tree down in the road. Or maybe there's a donut of lethal radiation around the town. :rolleyes: Any guesses ???

[DrDon]

Or maybe there's a donut of lethal radiation around the town. DING!! The second episode is a little more interesting in that it develops some of the characters a little better. Keep an eye on the former cop from St. Louis. That's all I'll tell you. My wife and I both agree that it probably won't last.. but she can't wait until we get the third episode to see what happens to some of the people. We'll probably stay with it because we really want to see who we're up against. Though I have a feeling that's one of the things they never tell us.

Doc

[CPanther95]

My money's on the Canadians. ;)

[HDTVFanAtic]

Well...the "who" and "how" are probably going to be ongoing plot threads throughout the series...

My best guess? Standard issue ICBMs launced globally due to some royal screwup, computer bug or something...and of course, the government suppressing any knowledge of the launches in order to prevent widespread panic and confusion, hence the 'surprise' attack...

A show like this just would work without some top-secret coverup taking place in the background of all this drama...

If it's true to the ABC Special I noted before, they never will get into that - except when they run out of ideas, lol.

[HDTVFanAtic]

Show won't last the season. Poor writing, tons of cliches, bad science etc all doom it.

Bad Science has never doomed a show.

Witness Lost.

[HDTVFanAtic]

How convient that no one, especially the cops/mayors office, has a Sat phone.

Hell, they didn't in New Orleans either.....and you expect Jericho to?

[Kracko]

The blond chick is hot. Didn't she play batman and cat woman's daughter a few years ago?

Ashley Scott. Yes. She was on Birds of Prey and is MUCH hotter as a brunette IMO.

[CJPC]

Ok, everything seems to make sense then, however if they were both on analog towers, and the connection died, and they were far enough away from the EMP, why did there telephones die?

[luv2chill]

Ok, everything seems to make sense then, however if they were both on analog towers, and the connection died, and they were far enough away from the EMP, why did there telephones die?

Heh. Good question. Maybe it was just a coincidence? Perhaps one of them went into a low signal area and the call faded.

Who knows... it could happen. But there are bound to be inconsistencies the writers didn't think of (especially when it appears that a high degree of accuracy was not one of the goals for this show).

[The Jedi]

I don't think I watch a single program on CBS...their programming just ... well sucks.
I haven't actively watched any CBS programs in quite a long time until The Unit. You've got David Mamet producing, along with Dennis Haysbert. It looks pretty authentic in HD.

Jericho looks like a show I'll give a chance to see how it pans out and how they play the concept. I think the producers and writers have to know what's on the line.

After reading some of the presumptions above, I think the military coup idea is ridiculous. A little too friggin' inhumane. But I think it may be that it was somehow the USA's own missiles, ala a scenario sort of like season 4 of 24.

But wow, I'd be bookin' it up to Alaska. The show does really stimulate the imagination.

[rezzy]

Dude scored immediate cool bonus-points with the bus lady by performing that emergency windpipe surgery on the little girl.

[lax01]

Dude scored immediate cool bonus-points with the bus lady by performing that emergency windpipe surgery on the little girl.

however that point was quickly subtracted once we realized that Eric Stoltz did the exact same thing to a girl in the 1997 movie, Anaconda....which, in itself was as cliche as they come...

[talbain]

anyone know how the pilot did in the ratings?

[Joseph]

anyone know how the pilot did in the ratings?

It improved CBS's ratings in the time period by a considerable amount versus last year. Not sure if that means success in the long run:

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/pr.aspx?id=20060921cbs01

[Don S]

I thought it was pretty good, even with the cliches and plot devices. To have 3 pages of mostly negative reviews after 1 episode tells me that expectations were very high, and the show didn't meet them. Maybe so. But I still liked it, and certainly refuse to kill it after 1 or 2 shows. Holy ..

[rezzy]

however that point was quickly subtracted once we realized that Eric Stoltz did the exact same thing to a girl in the 1997 movie, Anaconda....which, in itself was as cliche as they come...I don't think the bus-lady cares; at least he'd better hope :p.

[VideoJames]

however that point was quickly subtracted once we realized that Eric Stoltz did the exact same thing to a girl in the 1997 movie, Anaconda....which, in itself was as cliche as they come...

Or even earlier...like in a 1976 episode of M*A*S*H where Father Mulcahy did the same thing. :)

[Emaych]

I thought it was pretty good, even with the cliches and plot devices. To have 3 pages of mostly negative reviews after 1 episode tells me that expectations were very high, and the show didn't meet them. Maybe so. But I still liked it, and certainly refuse to kill it after 1 or 2 shows. Holy ..
Thank you for that.

[Mike4HDTV]

I just watched the 1st episode. I liked it. I set it to record on my 622 every week.

I think the key person to watch will be the cop from St. Louis. Also, there was the IRS lady. I wonder if she somehow will play a key role in the show.

[jblank74]

Thats because it had GOOD writing, was INTERESTING, made SENSE, had SMART characters...something Jericho has nothing of

Again.....IT'S BEEN 1 EPISODE!!!!!! Even BSG, my personal favorite show, has a clunker every once in a while (I'm looking at you Black Market).

[KenMacG]

I saw the first broadcast last week in a hotel room on a 20" TV. I thought this show is so bad, I might not watch it again. Ridiculous script and characters.

I saw the rebroadcast of the first episode again Sat nite at home in HD on a FP with the screen size set to 80", and with 5.1 audio. Hey this show looked and sounded very good...it sucked me in...almost made me forget about the script and characters.

[lax01]

Again.....IT'S BEEN 1 EPISODE!!!!!! Even BSG, my personal favorite show, has a clunker every once in a while (I'm looking at you Black Market).

yeah but the mini-series and first episode were some of the best damn television I've ever seen....and don't you want to usually put your best foot forward? You don't want to start out with something crappy and then build up...you'll loose a ton of viewers that way

[swamphhh]

Did anyone watch Sum of All Fears (most recent mediocre Tom Clancy adaptation?) The had a scene with a pretty realistic effect of a nearby low yield ground burst. There was a scene in a hospital with an Outside Flash TV Monitor Static/Fraction of a Second, then/Shock Wave. It's possible to do it with real science and still be dramatic. (Not necessarily the whole movie, mind you!)

We should be able to cut some slack for dramatic effect; a bright area on the horizon isn't as striking as a mushroom cloud and the reveal of the phone call from Atlanta was pretty cool, if unrealistic.

That stuff isn't what disappointed me, it is the hackneyed cliches like the juice box straw tracheotomy, the escaped prisoners--ooohhh scary--the stranded bus of kids and the slimy wish I was mayor dude. I can accept stretched realism for interesting dramatic effect, but can they not get enough tension out of a possible civilization ending scenario without resorting to gimmicks in the pilot?

I'll give it a couple of more chances, but I'm not as optimistic as I was earlier this week.

Please don't tell me your holding up Sum of All Fears as an example of realism as it concerns a nuclear detonation. We could pick apart that trash all day long.

[Kracko]

I saw the first broadcast last week in a hotel room on a 20" TV. I thought this show is so bad, I might not watch it again. Ridiculous script and characters.

I saw the rebroadcast of the first episode again Sat nite at home in HD on a FP with the screen size set to 80", and with 5.1 audio. Hey this show looked and sounded very good...it sucked me in...almost made me forget about the script and characters.

What? You actually like a show better when it's in HD? That just seems silly to me. If this is true we should lobby the networks to subsidise everyone's purchase of HD equipment. :)

[ldivinag]

FWIW, on CBS jericho's site, they have a map of jericho:

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/digital/images/map.jpg

there's a town called oakley where I-70, HWY 40 and 83 meets... although on the CBS map, the roads are a little off...

[FreeBaGeL]

Did anyone watch Sum of All Fears (most recent mediocre Tom Clancy adaptation?) The had a scene with a pretty realistic effect of a nearby low yield ground burst. There was a scene in a hospital with an Outside Flash TV Monitor Static/Fraction of a Second, then/Shock Wave. It's possible to do it with real science and still be dramatic. (Not necessarily the whole movie, mind you!)

We should be able to cut some slack for dramatic effect; a bright area on the horizon isn't as striking as a mushroom cloud and the reveal of the phone call from Atlanta was pretty cool, if unrealistic.

That stuff isn't what disappointed me, it is the hackneyed cliches like the juice box straw tracheotomy, the escaped prisoners--ooohhh scary--the stranded bus of kids and the slimy wish I was mayor dude. I can accept stretched realism for interesting dramatic effect, but can they not get enough tension out of a possible civilization ending scenario without resorting to gimmicks in the pilot?

I'll give it a couple of more chances, but I'm not as optimistic as I was earlier this week.

Wow...don't think I could agree with this post more. Maybe I have a seperate account that I post with while I'm sleeping or something ;).

Like was said above the mushroom cloud and call from Atlanta provided a great dramatic effect even if they did stretch reallity a little bit. I thought both were very well done and fit in great, probably the best parts of the show.

The cliches are what brought the show down some, not the realism.

[FreeBaGeL]

yeah but the mini-series and first episode were some of the best damn television I've ever seen....and don't you want to usually put your best foot forward? You don't want to start out with something crappy and then build up...you'll loose a ton of viewers that way

I would disagree. I thought the mini-series of BSG was just "ok". I will agree that the first episode (I believe it was "33") was quite good though. After that, it was a series of clunkers IMHO and I only stuck with the show because I had heard so many good things about it (I started watching when others were on season 2) and it matured into one of the best shows on TV.

So hope is far from lost for Jericho after 1 episode..

[uncrph90]

Please don't tell me your holding up Sum of All Fears as an example of realism as it concerns a nuclear detonation. We could pick apart that trash all day long.


NO-NO-NO-A thousand times NO! :D

Just that one 3 or 4 second scene with an IMP knocking out TV signal, followed almost, but not quite, instantaneously by the shock wave. As far as the rest of the movie--mostly trash (except Bridget Moynahan of course.)

[DaveFi]

Sorry, this might have made a good Twilight Zone episode back in the 50's, but anybody who understands anything about 2006 communications will find the entire premise laughable.Funny you should say that...Actually it was, and it is.

There's a Twilight Zone episode from the original series (I forget which number but one of the better episodes), about a middle-American town that gets cuts off from the rest of the world, and how their paranoid builds, how they deal with it, etc.

Jericho seems mighty similar...

[bobby94928]

Funny you should say that...Actually it was, and it is.

There's a Twilight Zone episode from the original series (I forget which number but one of the better episodes), about a middle-American town that gets cuts off from the rest of the world, and how their paranoid builds, how they deal with it, etc.

Jericho seems mighty similar...

That episode was called "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street" and it aired originally on March 4, 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street

Interestingly enough that remade episode from the new Twilight Zone was just aired last week on INHD.

http://inhd.com/product.jsp?prodId=12318&mp=cb2

[lax01]

That episode was called "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street" and it aired originally on March 4, 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street

Interestingly enough that remade episode from the new Twilight Zone was just aired last week on INHD.

http://inhd.com/product.jsp?prodId=12318&mp=cb2

so not only is the show a rip-off...its a BAD rip-off...hilarious

[rezzy]

Funny you should say that...Actually it was, and it is.

There's a Twilight Zone episode from the original series (I forget which number but one of the better episodes), about a middle-American town that gets cuts off from the rest of the world, and how their paranoid builds, how they deal with it, etc.

Jericho seems mighty similar...Funny you should say that, because the pilot did remind me of that short (Bradbury?) story where the entire town was cut off from everywhere else. It was actually one of the shorts from Twight Zone The Movie (1982).

[Rakesh.S]

Look up this episode of 2002's twilight zone - "The Monsters are on Maple Street"

Chaos engulfs the town in that episode (one house has power, and everyone else thinks the residents of that house are terrorists responsible for what happened) and at the end --

it is revealed that the govt. is responsible for cutting off the town from the outside world, to see what the response would be if in fact the scenario ever occurred

[kucharsk]

Yeah, and Denver is like halfway inside Colorado (about 200 miles from the border), so there's no way you could see it that well.More importantly, there are no mountains between Kansas and Denver. Even if you could somehow, magically see the mountains from Kansas, if it were Denver the mountains would have been behind the mushroom cloud.

To make the geography work out, Jericho would need to be in a suburb of Denver and the mushroom cloud would have needed to take out Winter Park or Breckenridge.

The show has lots of other issues, but even people who have done nothing but fly over Colorado can easily tell they messed up the geography, and badly. :rolleyes:

[kucharsk]

The EMP on a groundburst makes sense, but jericho is just far enough away not to get hit by it, but there radio, tv and cell towers are? We all know how spotty cell coverage can be, and I doubt there tower is 20+ miles away.

Given Jericho's location, the TV stations would have had to have been received via cable or a translator of a major market station. Their closest local stations may have even been the Denver stations.

Regardless, either would explain why the TV stations were knocked off the air - loss of satellite uplinks in the first case, loss of the Denver stations in the second.

As far as cell phones go, don't forget the antennas connect to the phone network and calls are routed back to Jericho; it's not like the cell towers would connect directly to the local Jericho phone lines…

[jdiehl]

More importantly, there are no mountains between Kansas and Denver. Even if you could somehow, magically see the mountains from Kansas, if it were Denver the mountains would have been behind the mushroom cloud.


I deleted the show after watching it, but are we sure that the mushroom cloud was behind the mountains? I don't recall being able to see the bottoms of the mountains, just the tops of them in the distance with a mushroom cloud above the them. With the curve of the Earth, it would be impossible to see ground zero anyway, and all you'd see is the higher part of the mushroom (which might make it look like it came from behind the mountains).

Anyway, I'm watching it for the drama, not special effects. If the characters don't grab anyone's interest, this show will be gone before Thanksgiving anyway (ala Threshold).

[kucharsk]

I deleted the show after watching it, but are we sure that the mushroom cloud was behind the mountains? I don't recall being able to see the bottoms of the mountains, just the tops of them in the distance with a mushroom cloud above the them. With the curve of the Earth, it would be impossible to see ground zero anyway, and all you'd see is the higher part of the mushroom (which might make it look like it came from behind the mountains).
Can't see the base of the mountains?!?! No, they make Kansas look like it's 50 miles east of the mountains.

Look at CBS' graphic here (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/):

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/images/jerico_hp_soft_09.jpg
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/images/jerico_hp_soft_11.jpg
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/images/jerico_hp_soft_13.jpg

Given the graphic, it's apparent that someone's nuked Winter Park (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=winter+park,+co&ie=UTF8&z=10&ll=39.827522,-105.383606&spn=0.483031,1.101379&t=h&om=1). :D

[jdiehl]

Given the graphic, it's apparent that someone's nuked Winter Park (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=winter+park,+co&ie=UTF8&z=10&ll=39.827522,-105.383606&spn=0.483031,1.101379&t=h&om=1). :D

LOL. OMG, that is pretty bad. No way that's in Kansas.

[Kracko]

LOL. OMG, that is pretty bad. No way that's in Kansas.

Maybe that's the point? Maybe the writers are trying to make this a Lost and have us figure out for the next two years exactly where these people are?

[squidboy]

Maybe that's the point? Maybe the writers are trying to make this a Lost and have us figure out for the next two years exactly where these people are?

Well, then that kid is standing on my house. That's about how big the Rocky's are from my place (east Denver suburbs).

[stephenC]

I'd say they are between a rock and a hard place. :)

[lax01]

Can't see the base of the mountains?!?! No, they make Kansas look like it's 50 miles east of the mountains.

Look at CBS' graphic here (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/)

Given the graphic, it's apparent that someone's nuked Winter Park (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=winter+park,+co&ie=UTF8&z=10&ll=39.827522,-105.383606&spn=0.483031,1.101379&t=h&om=1). :D

LOL....I drove through Kansas this Summer and I didn't see no mountains...you can barely see the mountains from Denver unless its a really clear day...

so who else isn't watching this tonight? (or is it tommorow night?)

[archiguy]

so who else isn't watching this tonight? (or is it tommorow night?)

I watched the first episode, and I'll continue until it's either:

a) cancelled.
b) reaches it's season end.
c) feel about it as you clearly do, lax.

Right now, with only 1 episode in, it's too early to tell how this show is going to shape up. The ratings were good last week, so it will likely survive. I'll hang around and see how things go...

[NetworkTV]

As always, I'll give it three episodes to state its case for staying programmed in my DVR. I was on the fence, because it was running awfully close to one of those shows that I can't find anything redeeming in to make me watch more than the premiere. If a van load of midgets had happened by to help push the bus into town, the auto record would already be gone.






No, wait, scratch that. I think the show could have benefited from a van load of midgets.

[Jolard]

I usually give a show three episodes to grab me, and then I usually have to start weeding out those I don't want to add permanently to my DVR. Last season it was How I met your Mother, Threshold and Surface that lasted 3 episodes, and Invasion which lasted the whole season (until it was cancelled damnit)

This year I will pick one or two of the new shows, but with Heroes, Jericho and Studio 60, along with The Nine coming, one or more of them will have to go. It is like my own little reality TV show, who is getting booted after the first three episodes! :)

So far I like Jericho enough, and I think it has potential to stay the course, but it is WAY too early to tell after just one episode.

[stevencko]

I watched the show and will give it at least two more episodes before giving up. So far it looks like it might get stale quick. The cars and radios work but no TV's? No one in this town subscribed to Dish network or Directv? The electric has works for the telephone machine why not the rest of the electronics? How about XM radio? In this day and age it is very hard to completely isolate a town.

The biggest problem with the show I have is the way the depicted the only HAM radio operator as some kind of nut job. They only wanted his radio which would do them no good without antennas and someone qualified to use it. HAM radio is one of the most reliable forms of communications after a disaster and has saved many lives.

[jdiehl]

I watched the show and will give it at least two more episodes before giving up. So far it looks like it might get stale quick. The cars and radios work but no TV's? No one in this town subscribed to Dish network or Directv? The electric has works for the telephone machine why not the rest of the electronics? How about XM radio? In this day and age it is very hard to completely isolate a town.

Cars and radios don't need electricity. They can run on gas and batteries.

The electric worked for the answering machine, in order for the kid to hear it, but then the power went completely out (they played it back for everyone else on a battery operated tape player).

Dish, DirecTV, XM, etc... are only going to work if stations are trasmitting signals to the birds in the sky. I believe the assumption of the show is that every major US city has been nuked, which would mean those sats. in the sky aren't receiving anything to bounce back to subscribers (even if they had power to run the sat. receiver).

[Kevin B]

Haha it probably goes back to the old russian suitcase nukes....

[kmj0577]

So I'm wondering, after they make all that big deal about radiation falling on Jericho, next ep they walk right out into it?

[aegisx]

Can someone fill me in on what happened at the end? Thanks

[kmj0577]

Can someone fill me in on what happened at the end? Thanks
Everyone ended