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geo3
09-28-06, 08:07 PM
went into service mode mute 1,2,8 power. entered component calbration mode - said comp calibration - failure when hit enter it says comp calibration - off can't make it goe to on. Please advise. thanks

Gregg Loewen
09-28-06, 09:55 PM
ARGH
Basically you are going to have to call service and fess up to being in Service Mode.
You need a certain pattern on the panel at a certain resolution for their auto calibration mode to work. You had neither so it failed and now it is either non functioning or non watchable.
best of luck

Gregg

Coyotes
09-29-06, 01:41 AM
Gregg,

Isn't that pattern on the QD802b?

geo3
09-29-06, 08:01 AM
Coyotes, QD802b?
I messed it up, I'd like to fix it.
thanks

Coyotes
09-29-06, 09:54 AM
Coyotes, QD802b?
I messed it up, I'd like to fix it.
thanks

That is a $7K test pattern generator from Quantum Data that few calibrators have.

My fear is that you are going to have to submit your panel into Samsung for service.

geo3
09-29-06, 10:21 AM
By the way the Tv is working, with a slight degradation in picture quality.

jawatkin
09-29-06, 10:31 AM
By the way the Tv is working, with a slight degradation in picture quality.

Which means it's not working properly anymore, though. :(

Justin

Coyotes
09-29-06, 10:54 AM
By the way the Tv is working, with a slight degradation in picture quality.

Yeah...sorry geo3.

The set when into Auto-Cal mode, and since it did not see a specific pattern at a specific resolution, it recalculated the values based upon what was on the screen at the time. :(

Michael TLV
09-29-06, 12:38 PM
Greetings

To get it working properly again, you will have to tell samsung that you messed it up and what you did. They will know how to fix it ... fairly simple ... just needs the pattern ...

You just have to pay for the repair work ... since the damage is your fault. :(

(Unless you take the fraud route ... )

Regards

geo3
09-29-06, 12:42 PM
Be hard to be fruadulent on this one. Oh, my dog was chewing on the remote and next thing I knew - this problem developed?
My bad, my fault - just thought, hoped, there might be a quick fix.

NightRune
02-25-07, 01:48 PM
Be hard to be fruadulent on this one. Oh, my dog was chewing on the remote and next thing I knew - this problem developed?
My bad, my fault - just thought, hoped, there might be a quick fix.

Did it took too long to fix the calibration problem of your TV?

I made the same mistake that you did, and i'm going to send the TV to Samsung to fix it...

Vaelsed
02-25-07, 06:13 PM
Greetings

To get it working properly again, you will have to tell samsung that you messed it up and what you did. They will know how to fix it ... fairly simple ... just needs the pattern ...

You just have to pay for the repair work ... since the damage is your fault. :(

(Unless you take the fraud route ... )

Regards

Hello,

Wow I was unaware that you could mess up your tv doing something so simple. I am always fiddling with my gadgets so I decided to go into my service menu to do a trick that turns down DNIe processing (i have a 26 incher so i do not have this option in the menu) I hit HDMI calibration before I read not to mess around with it, and Now my picture quality has taken a hit. Is there *any* way to fix this without spending a bundle or sending it to the samsung to get fixed?

tower101
02-26-07, 06:41 PM
Hello,

Wow I was unaware that you could mess up your tv doing something so simple. I am always fiddling with my gadgets so I decided to go into my service menu to do a trick that turns down DNIe processing (i have a 26 incher so i do not have this option in the menu) I hit HDMI calibration before I read not to mess around with it, and Now my picture quality has taken a hit. Is there *any* way to fix this without spending a bundle or sending it to the samsung to get fixed?

Send a checkerboard pattern at 100IRE and "calibrate" again send it at 720p if you can.

You can turn down the DNIe in the LBE menu.

Good luck

Coyotes
02-27-07, 02:38 AM
Send a checkerboard pattern at 100IRE and "calibrate" again send it at 720p if you can.

You can turn down the DNIe in the LBE menu.

Good luck

Say...just asking (politely!)

How do you adjust IRE with a pattern other than Window or Fields? I have an 802B (which is what Samsung uses on the line) as well as a 403b, and on Checkerboard, there is no way to manipulate output.
Can you describe your methodology?

Thanks!

tower101
02-27-07, 07:36 PM
Say...just asking (politely!)

How do you adjust IRE with a pattern other than Window or Fields? I have an 802B (which is what Samsung uses on the line) as well as a 403b, and on Checkerboard, there is no way to manipulate output.
Can you describe your methodology?

Thanks!

AVIA I think has 25, 50, 75, 100 IRE checkerboard patterns using the 100 seems to work the best.

I put it in an up-converting DVD play set for 720p and hit calibrate, how it works I do not know. On the TV the pattern gets green then blue then red and repeats a few times.

NOTE I was getting my main board replaced so I was willing to try and see what it did. I took readings with a spyder (I now use a display LT) before and after. On HDMI it "resets" the gray-scale to factory settings (sort of), on component it adjust the screen size (I think), on PC it resets the color and hue.

This is on a LN-S4692 others may be different.

Hope this helps.


I should also add that I did have a service guy out and he used a generator set to chessboard at 720p. I also have the service manual for the set and that is what it says to do, only change is what res to use on what input.

b_rad4
04-06-07, 12:54 AM
Dammit, I am pretty sure I just did this exact same thing a couple days ago.

If it won't let me access that menu does that mean I did it?
Also when I access it from component it says seccesful for HDMI, did I F it up?

CoolVito
05-06-07, 11:44 PM
Dammit, I am pretty sure I just did this exact same thing a couple days ago.

If it won't let me access that menu does that mean I did it?
Also when I access it from component it says seccesful for HDMI, did I F it up?

I did the same thing, but I figured a way to fix it (it's probably too late, sorry for the delayed response, but incase someone else searches for this).

If you take any THX DVD, for example Episode III and go the options menu and do the THX Video Calibration, there is a screen that has the color bars on top, the white grid lines in the background, and the gray scale on the side. Leave it on that screen and then while in the Service Menu, activate the "HDMI Calibration" again. Once it's done doing its cycles, it should restore your picture to pretty close to how it originally was.

Good luck!

PapaBliss
05-08-07, 02:35 PM
Wow I was unaware that you could mess up your tv doing something so simple.

That's why they call it a service menu and don't provide users with the access codes.

YoungGoGetter
05-09-07, 01:39 AM
Anyone know what a ballpark figure is for having your screen calibrated after you pull a tard move and jack it up in the svc menu?

I feel like such a newb right now :(

treznor
06-03-07, 12:23 AM
Well i did the same thing but with HDMI and now my contrast is messed up like if you move it to 90 it becomes completly black and then bright as u move it down, but i have a 4264 plasma so i was wondering if the avia disk pattern would help me as well? thanks

subliminac
06-04-07, 07:18 PM
Add me to the list of dipsh-ts who messed up their television via a visit to the calibration-hdmi screen in the service menu. I have tried the checkerboard pattern as recommended, also tried the 100IRE window, with no luck either way. When I click through the Contrast settings on the user menu, the picture changes colors, green, blue, yellow etc. as though viewed through a color filter. Does anyone out there have any other recommendations? Or any idea what it is that I'm seeing and what sort of input this television wants? It is a new Samsung LN-T4065F. Thanks.

And ISF certified folks out there, please keep your reprimands to a minimum. I already feel bad enough. I know I'm going to have to put this in the hands of a professional. But I'm hoping one of the more knowledgeable of you out there knows exactly what kind of pattern or pattern generator is needed, just so I'm armed with a little extra information when the tech arrives. As you know not all techs are created equal!

Bear5k
06-04-07, 07:37 PM
We should re-name this thread "Why you should be careful in the service menu" and make it a sticky. :)

Bill

subliminac
06-05-07, 06:01 PM
Any takers on the question above? After accidentally turning the "hdmi on" in the service menu my contrast user settings are completely messed up. Contrast may start off on what appears to be a relatively normal picture (at 100 say), but as I click down through each setting, the entire picture is cast in a color, as though it had a filter over it. It may go from "clear" to red (99) to blue (98) to green (97) to blue (96) to yellow (95), ect. until I arrive at another "clear" perhaps thirty or so clicks down. There is no uniform pattern to it, at least that I can see.

Also, it only appears to effect the digital inputs - OTA digital channels and DVD. Analog OTA works as it should.

I have already made a call to a local service tech, and they are in the process of getting authorization from Samsung to work on the television. Everything is up in the air or course, I may have to pay for the work, and my warranty may be voided, which could be a real problem since this television has a documented hand-shaking issue over the hdmi connections.

Please take pity! :confused:

tmjarvis30
06-20-07, 06:49 AM
I was able to fix mine, but I broke the component input.
I would assume the same fix would work for the HDMI.

I have an ISF certified ATI Radeon X800 Video card with PC, DVI and Component video.

You may be able to pick on of these cards up cheap. Before recalibrating write down all the settings via a spreadsheet when in the service menu. It is very important that you do this!!!

You have to display an 8 x 8 checkerboard pattern on the screen for the tv to recalibrate correctly. I have the pattern or you can do a search for it yourself. Mine recalibration took less than 10 secs. I have a Samsung LN-T5265F.

These electronic components are always evolving and the techniques used to fix them are not well documented or accessible.

Oh...I had the Contrast issue to. When I pulled the contrast down it would change colours and brightness, red, green, but with every increment from the highest settting going down to the lowest. Do a compare on the spreadsheet of the before and after to see what values have changed.


I found a way to fix this. You may have some funky numbers like this:

Look how high the numger are!

ROffset 4219
GOffset 4222
BOffset 4218
RGain 53488
GGain 52483
BGain 50933



I pulled down the numbers manually and reacalibrated with the checkerboad and got these.

ROffset 66
GOffset 65
BOffset 66
RGain 294
GGain 294
BGain 294


Here is the before and after of my results. So now the contrast works perfect!!

Before After
TCD3_Contrast 119 111
TCD3_Bright 47 45
TCD3_YC_Delay 0 0
Analog_Y_Offset 176 64
Analog_PB_Offset 128 128
Analog_PR_Offset 128 128
Analog_Y_Gain 171 183
Analog_PB_Gain 128 128
Analog_PR_Gain 128 128


Remember, I broke my Component not my HDMI so your results may be different. But at least you can have something to go by. Good luck.

zzzpt
07-03-07, 07:22 PM
Well just want to say that with this pattern:
_calibrate.tv/patterns/ansicontrast1.jpg

The calibration was a SUCCESS

Only putting the image on the backgroud worked ;)

Bluto
07-03-07, 08:36 PM
I've tried the checkerboard pattern from tvblink.com and my calibration is still a bit off. Anyone have a link for a better checkerboard pattern I could use.

Ugh... This sucks. I am in the same boat. BUT, I hit HDMI calibration inadvertently when making sure the new board settings where correct.

hoffa194
07-04-07, 11:28 PM
yes i also hit the hdmi calibration and i was wondering even how to put the checkerboard image on the screen itself, via, disk, usb,,, how do i do it...... i have a cable box that shows 720 and 1080 i will call the cable company to see if they have any calibrated images to use.... i need help serious help... can this damage the set and if so... dam i hate checkin for panel hours...lol.... ...

Bluto
07-09-07, 11:36 AM
I used the 100IRE checkerboard pattern on my avia DVD and the calibration was a success.

HOWEVER, when I go in to adjust the contrast, the picture still distorts and changes colors.

Any other suggestions? Thanks!

retro12345
07-13-07, 05:14 AM
Hey guys,
In my pure excitement of getting this 4264 plasma, I have been using it like crazy and wanted to check the hours on the set. Went into the service menu, and didn't know that pushing to the right actually performed the actions. I know I am stupid, but I was excited to see the hours used.

I'm not sure if I accessed the calibration settings....I just bought the set last week. However, now, when I access the SM, Calibration is greyed out and not accessible. Does this mean I screwed up my TV? I'm not sure if when I first accessed the box if the calibration option was grey or white (accessible). I do not have HDMI to test out what I may have done. Thanks for helping out this stupid newbie.

The firmware on my set says:
May 11th 2007

TallTerror
08-11-07, 06:48 PM
Yeah i just got my board replaced yesterday and the service guy didn't program the board for the 65 series but instead the 61 series so i was going in to change the settings for my 65 when being an idiot i activated the HDMI calibration. So now i have the contrast problem and i have to turn the brightness up to 77 just to see anything.

Anyone got any ideas???

By the way i am new to calibrating TVs with a DVD so does anyone know where i can learn how to.

ngarre2
08-12-07, 02:16 PM
I did the same but luckily I have a friend that bought the same tv. All I did was take pictures of each screen in the service menu and adjust mine accordingly. I believe that these are the important screens...I have the others if need be.

docrings
08-14-07, 01:48 PM
By the way i am new to calibrating TVs with a DVD so does anyone know where i can learn how to.

Start reading ALL the "Sticky" threads on the Display Calibration page one... and then re-read them. It will take a while to have all the acronyms and numbers and concepts start to soak it and get a "zen" for the relationships between them all.

Good luck,
Doc

:cool:

Tommie8811
09-06-07, 03:35 AM
I did the same but luckily I have a friend that bought the same tv. All I did was take pictures of each screen in the service menu and adjust mine accordingly. I believe that these are the important screens...I have the others if need be.
Attached Files TV.zip (298.3 KB, 24 views)


Sir..

You just saved my life...

Thank you x a bazillion ( it's 3:35 in the AM on a Thursday... I've been working on fixing this for 3 hours now HAHAHAHAHA )

Sleepy times.

my3rdxbox360
09-06-07, 04:20 PM
I did the same but luckily I have a friend that bought the same tv. All I did was take pictures of each screen in the service menu and adjust mine accordingly. I believe that these are the important screens...I have the others if need be.

I can't seem to see the tv zip you have attached?? ANyone know why, I'm confused.

afxwinter
09-27-07, 03:19 PM
I've been experiencing a strange problem after replacing my xbox 360 with a new one. The whole image by default is shifted about 3-4 inches left. I always use VGA out from my 360 and never had any issues with my original 360. I can temporarily correct this by using auto-adjustment in the tv's options but it doesn't save the config if the tv's input is switched or if the tv is turned off. In hopes of finding some sort of way to calibrate this I foolishly entered the service mode and incorrectly calibrated my tv's PC input. Now I have a Samsung registered tech coming in a week and am curious if anyone in the Ontario region has experience dealing with these people and if they have the means to recalibrate my tv (LNS4041D). They're called C Agusta TV Service.

afxwinter
09-27-07, 06:53 PM
Ok I just received a ph******* from this Samsung certified repair center who said they can't calibrate these tvs. I called Samsung to explain the whole story and they said since I entered the service menu it voids my warranty (which i knew) but they were only willing to refer me to a couple local service centers who may or may not have the proper tools to fix my tv. If someone on here is knowledgeable enough to help me recalibrate my tv or refer me to someone who can I would really appreciate it!

antron
12-03-07, 10:43 AM
thank you ngarre2!

your photos of the service menu saved me!
this really works.

vddobrev
12-04-07, 02:36 PM
I did the same but luckily I have a friend that bought the same tv. All I did was take pictures of each screen in the service menu and adjust mine accordingly. I believe that these are the important screens...I have the others if need be.
I am getting a corrupted file when Idownload it. Can you please upload again?

tmjarvis30
12-07-07, 06:49 AM
This was originally a rar file. I converted it to zip. It should work now.

neggie
12-14-07, 11:36 AM
ok me being a DumbA#@ had the tv on hdmi went into service menu saw the calibration on hdmi and clicked on it now all jacked up from what i read here i have notes but from others like me what was the best solution please help
thanks all

THXWOW
02-03-08, 05:13 PM
Could someone please post all the original settings of the service menu for the LN-T5281F? Seems there's more there then the pictures of the zip file show. Thanks.

prosete
02-03-08, 10:34 PM
Boy! I feel for you guys. This thread is reading like some John Carpenter horror flick.

I used to access my old CRT (Hitachi) service menu many years ago in an attempt to straighten out its geometry and never had a problem.

After reading the painful posts by many of you, I will never attempt to do so with the new TVs that are out now. Sorry to say that I learned my lesson only through your painful experience.

I sure hope those of you affected by this can solve your problems at a relatively low cost, short of buying new.

TheBrandon
02-09-08, 08:58 AM
Samsung seems to be putting out questionable TV sets. If their TVs weren't having some problems people wouldn't need to enter the service menu. Further more, it is a shame that Samsung won't do everything in its power to just help folks get their picture the way it should be given what they paid. Seriously, how hard would it be to walk someone thru the settings?

Ice That Jaw
02-09-08, 03:00 PM
This was originally a rar file. I converted it to zip. It should work now.

I used a checkerboard pattern in 1080p on my PS3 and i get success but the contrast is all screwy with colors like some of you. I might just pay for professional calibraiton from CC and just get the guy to fix it but if I change my settings to the ones in the zip does it undo the calibration what? I have a 46AMV TV.

carolina_kyle
03-04-08, 05:03 PM
I did the same but luckily I have a friend that bought the same tv. All I did was take pictures of each screen in the service menu and adjust mine accordingly. I believe that these are the important screens...I have the others if need be.

I've made the same mistake and adjusting my settings did make it better, but if you still have the additional screen shots, I'd like to compare. Thanks.

KoRn
03-06-08, 01:33 AM
Sammy 3253H here. Anyone know how to adjust the sharpness using vga with movie mode in the service menu?

nicholc2
03-06-08, 11:07 AM
Do all Samsungs have this issue or only the newer Plasma and LCD models? The DLP models don't do this when you enter the service menu do they?

andydumi
03-06-08, 01:15 PM
Do all Samsungs have this issue or only the newer Plasma and LCD models? The DLP models don't do this when you enter the service menu do they?

This does not happen just from entering the menu.

There is a calibration button, that people press accidentally and it causes a miscalibration if you dont provide the right patterns.
As above, you can then recalibrate correctly by giving the right pattern.

nicholc2
03-06-08, 05:29 PM
This does not happen just from entering the menu.

There is a calibration button, that people press accidentally and it causes a miscalibration if you dont provide the right patterns.
As above, you can then recalibrate correctly by giving the right pattern.

So this is some sort of an internal auto calibration? Do the older Samsungs have this as well? Or is this something that only the newer plasmas and lcds have?

KoRn
03-06-08, 11:25 PM
Anyone?

Sammy 3253H here. Anyone know how to adjust the sharpness using vga with movie mode in the service menu?

andydumi
03-07-08, 11:37 AM
So this is some sort of an internal auto calibration? Do the older Samsungs have this as well? Or is this something that only the newer plasmas and lcds have?

I dont know about older ones, but newer ones have this menu. I guess it allows calibration after swapping out a mainboard or something if it does not look right.

Its a neat thing to have, but as you can see from this thread, many people mess it up. THen again, it is in the service menu, which people ought not to play with anyway.

nicholc2
03-07-08, 02:52 PM
I dont know about older ones, but newer ones have this menu. I guess it allows calibration after swapping out a mainboard or something if it does not look right.

Its a neat thing to have, but as you can see from this thread, many people mess it up. THen again, it is in the service menu, which people ought not to play with anyway.

Well I calibrated my neighbors 4661 recently and from what the i1Pro and HCFR reported, I don't know why you would even need to go into the service menu for that set. I got grays tracking great and color repro was excellent as well. The older set, definitely since you can't adjust grays from the user menu, but the newer ones, you can do that, so I don't see the need.

KoRn
03-10-08, 08:23 PM
Please can anyone help on this? I have been asking about this for a few months now and nobody knows? I'm sure some one on here knows how to. I would really appreciate it if some one can help me on this slight adjustment and walk me through step by step.

Sammy 3253H here. Anyone know how to adjust the sharpness using vga with movie mode in the service menu?

outsiderwv
03-26-08, 09:02 AM
I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice/help. I have a Samsung LN-S 4041D and I accessed the service menu. I then clicked on the calibration option, but didn't go any further. I noticed that a few things came on the screen...I believe they said passed or success and then the hdmi one said failed. I didn't have any active hdmi connections at the time so the screen was black.

I am not sure if I messed something up or hopefully I didn't go far enough into the settings to do anything. Just wondering if anyone can let me know if I did mess something up and if so can anyone provide me with pictures of the correct settings or the settings themselves so that I can change anything back?

The picture seems to be alright, but I definately want to to make sure. Thanks guys!

Dave

test4echo101
05-26-08, 05:21 PM
If any of you have any trouble in the service menu (hit the calibration) all you need is the file posted above IF you have the same TV or similar.

I did the SAME thing and went to where i bought my TV and they had no problem whatsoever letting me take down all the settings so I could restore the values manually.

That together with a few tips found in this forum my 4042H is looking better than it ever did.

I'm actually happy i messed up my tv because it forced me to learn how to use the service menu and get better picture fidelity.

Its not difficult to get back to square one if you have another TV to reference.

Chris,

samboukou
06-09-08, 01:33 PM
I had a problem of dead pixel with my TV LNT4061fx. I got my panel changed, but since I didn't got the same high quality of the picture than before, the tech came back and went into the service menu calibration and you konw what? He messed up! The picture turned red and he didnt know how to fix it. I now have much worse quality of the picture. When I point this out, He said that the probleme is the main bord and that I have to change it too. I don't know if he is right. since my first replacement with the panel didn't went as good as excpected, I am afraid to change the main board too. Any Ideas? Please help me what should I do?

andydumi
06-09-08, 04:50 PM
I had a problem of dead pixel with my TV LNT4061fx. I got my panel changed, but since I didn't got the same high quality of the picture than before, the tech came back and went into the service menu calibration and you konw what? He messed up! The picture turned red and he didnt know how to fix it. I now have much worse quality of the picture. When I point this out, He said that the probleme is the main bord and that I have to change it too. I don't know if he is right. since my first replacement with the panel didn't went as good as excpected, I am afraid to change the main board too. Any Ideas? Please help me what should I do?

He likely played with the calibration and failed it. Read through this thread for correct settings, or go to a store and get the correct settings off a display TV. Or let them replace the board, or ask for a whole new TV if the quality is poor, based on their messing it up.

Bmwmandan
06-13-08, 01:48 AM
Sorry to trow some thing this simple in your face
All samsung tvs have a upgrade port of some sort usb or a little head phone jack looking thing

Go to samsungs website look under support for your tv set download the firmware and upload to your tv

any other ? email me Directly BMWMANDAN@att.net

zerog6
06-21-08, 01:47 AM
I have another question about this. Although my issues doesn't really seem to have caused any problems.

I never touched those calibration settings. However, I did do a master reset in the service menu. After I went back into the SM after the master reset, all of the calibration settings now say "failure". However, all of my actual picture settings are in the default factory settings that they're supposed to be at, nothing wacky changed. Also, my picture seems to be exactly how it was when all the calibration settings read "success" before I did the master reset.

So is this just a case where doing the master reset changes the calibration from success to failure, but the TV is still actually setup how it's supposed to be? Or am I going to have to recalibrate it like the others anyway?

etc6849
10-16-08, 08:04 PM
Thanks, the tv picture looks really good now! I can see much more details in the blacks and the colors look more accurate... The picture is better than it's ever been; i'm guessing your friends set was calibrated.

Your pictures saved me as I hit the calibrate button by accident too! So many people on here hit the same button... pretty funny.
:)

I did the same but luckily I have a friend that bought the same tv. All I did was take pictures of each screen in the service menu and adjust mine accordingly. I believe that these are the important screens...I have the others if need be.

Entity82
10-22-08, 11:36 AM
Hey everyone. I have also accidently hit the HDMI calibration on my tv, LN46A750. I did not however get a failure message on my set. The only thing plugged in at the time was my Cable STB but it was not turned on. It was displaying the channel I last watched but the box was not on. The picture seems to be fine but I am a bit worried that I did screw something up. Should I be looking for contrast issues and color issues? Will updating to the newest firmware fix this?

If anyone can please help it will be greatly appreciated, thank you.

andydumi
10-22-08, 01:05 PM
Hey everyone. I have also accidently hit the HDMI calibration on my tv, LN46A750. I did not however get a failure message on my set. The only thing plugged in at the time was my Cable STB but it was not turned on. It was displaying the channel I last watched but the box was not on. The picture seems to be fine but I am a bit worried that I did screw something up. Should I be looking for contrast issues and color issues? Will updating to the newest firmware fix this?

If anyone can please help it will be greatly appreciated, thank you.

If you messed it up you would know instantly. THe colors would be completely messed up. As in blues would be reds.... skin would be green...

cplmjk
11-29-08, 04:45 AM
looks like i'm part of the club now too. i just did this by accident of course on my Samsung FPT 5884 !! I managed to get it slightly working with the checkerbox pattern showing up on my PS3 @ 720P. HOWEVER, the problem exists with MOVIE and STANDARD mode. Dynamic is fine. Like some other guys here, the contrast is way off on movie and standard modes. I go one notch up and it changes a completely different color, not darker like contrast control should work. Anyone have the settings I need to adjust in service menu (i know! i know!!) for this TV ? Or is there an easier / less hassle free way to go about this , not counting a pro calibrator ??

vlin
12-05-08, 01:49 AM
Hi,

I have a Samsung 4061 with AV calibration fail in service manual. I tried checkerboard pattern from Antenna input but it did not work. Does anyone one have any suggestion how to fix this problem?

torkgsr
12-09-08, 11:35 PM
I've got the same problem as all others before me... :(...

For myself with my 46a550, I can't get the HDMI Calibration option anymore?!?!?...

Is there someone able to help getting the option back again? I've update the firmware without success.

Thanks.

BTW, Your forum look really good for technical reason.. there's always good thing when a bad one append!...

JQ3
01-26-09, 02:22 PM
I found this post and followed the instructions on post 3161. I hope this helps others, because using the checkerboard worked for me and actually my picture looks even better then the original!:eek:

h**p://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-televisions/403913-samsung-f7-series-211.html#post4379759

As I am new to the forums it would not let me post the url, so you will have to add in the tt's. this is in no way spam, just trying to help others with this same problem!

I maybe lucky with this, because I have a DUAL DVI out to HDMI cable from my pc to the Samsung in which I was able to project the high quality checkerboard patern in 1080p.

Good luck to all trying to fix their calibration mishaps!

robmiller2001
02-23-09, 01:02 AM
Thank you so much for the pictures of the settings! It saved my ass. My LNT4665F seems to be back to where I started before I hit the HDMI calibrate by accident.

I think the main reason I had hit the calibrate is because I did not know how to back out of the calibrate area. To navigate the service menu use the up & down arrows. Use enter to select and if you want to change a value hit left or right arrows. But the most important one I did not know is that the menu button will take you back one menu without doing any damage. Hope this helps someone before they hit the HDMI calibration by accident.

:)

r3alsp33dy0ne
06-23-09, 10:06 AM
Got a slightly different prob here. Hope somebody can advise me. I just bought an LA32B650. I work for a company that provides video on demand systems for hotels and some of the TV's we use are samsung LCD's so im familiar with the samsung service menu and the calibration section.

When I went into the service menu on my new TV I noticed that all the calibrations are showing "failure". I have not changed anything myself in the service menu. It came this way from the factory. Through my previous experience with samsung TV's I have never seen one that came like this brand new.

The picture quality seems OK (although the contrast may be a little off when using the tuner) but obviously I want it to be the best it can be.

I'm gonna call Samsung and try to get them to send a tech with a pattern generator. Trouble is, I dont think they will believe me that I didnt do this myself.

Any advise on how to deal with them in this regard? Does going into the service menu automaticly void my warranty? What about if a certified calibrator went in there instead of me? Warranty still void?

Michael TLV
06-23-09, 10:14 AM
Greetings

You'd better be able to prove that there is something wrong with the tv. It really doesn't matter what something says or does not say in the service menu.

If you really want it the best it can be ... you will take the time to calibrate the units yourself with test discs ... and presumably ... calibration equipment too.

Or else ... you really don't want it to be the best it can be.

Regards

int0x13
07-29-09, 09:45 PM
Send a checkerboard pattern at 100IRE and "calibrate" again send it at 720p if you can.

You can turn down the DNIe in the LBE menu.

Good luck

I dont find any LBE, where's this menu please?

int0x13
07-29-09, 11:29 PM
AVIA I think has 25, 50, 75, 100 IRE checkerboard patterns using the 100 seems to work the best.

I put it in an up-converting DVD play set for 720p and hit calibrate, how it works I do not know. On the TV the pattern gets green then blue then red and repeats a few times.

NOTE I was getting my main board replaced so I was willing to try and see what it did. I took readings with a spyder (I now use a display LT) before and after. On HDMI it "resets" the gray-scale to factory settings (sort of), on component it adjust the screen size (I think), on PC it resets the color and hue.

This is on a LN-S4692 others may be different.

Hope this helps.


I should also add that I did have a service guy out and he used a generator set to chessboard at 720p. I also have the service manual for the set and that is what it says to do, only change is what res to use on what input.

I had the AV calibration failure and here is what i did:
I connected my DVD set (no hd upscaling set) to my LCD using a composite cable (yellow one). I then displayed the Avia 100 IRE checkboard pattern and then i got av calibration success again.
I would like to thank you for sharing your knowledge. That said i have some little questions:
1) Is there a difference between a 720P checkboard and a standard DVD resolution checkboard? is this really important, what does it change?
2) You said there are different resolution pattern for each input (Av,comp,PC,hdmi), could you tell us which pattern and which resolution samsung is using for each one ?, it could be usefull i guess.
3)Which calibration you had to "failure" on your set?
thanks!

Dijkhuis92
07-30-09, 02:21 AM
int0x13, what samsung tv do you have? I messed up my LE37B650 (av and hdmi calibration), but i cannot find the right pattern to fix it.

int0x13
07-30-09, 10:57 AM
I got the LE32B550 it's pretty near to what you have Sir, i had only the AV calibration failure, not the HDMI one

Dijkhuis92
07-30-09, 11:32 AM
I got the LE32B550 it's pretty near to what you have Sir, i had only the AV calibration failure, not the HDMI one

Thanks int0x13! i will try it on composite. What is this avia pattern?

Dijkhuis92
07-30-09, 04:03 PM
I have accidentally misconfigured my colour settings in the service menu and now my LCD says AV Calibration failure.

Could anyone with a B-series LCD be so kind to post screenshots of the ADC Result screen while in AV, COMP, PC and HDMI mode? I have a LE-37B650 but a LN/LA and/or B550/B750 type could also be sufficient. I'd like to compare the settings of the other input modes, see if they are equal, and if so, copy the AV-mode settings.

(The infamous ADC calibration seems to affect the settings in ADC Result screen. These settings are different for the four types of input: AV, COMP, PC and HDMI mode. If anyone knows of any other settings that are affect by the calibration in a B5/6/7-series LCD, i'd be glad to learn about it.)

Bill Mitchell
07-30-09, 05:13 PM
I have accidentally misconfigured my colour settings in the service menu and now my LCD says AV Calibration failure.

Could anyone with a B-series LCD be so kind to post screenshots of the ADC Result screen while in AV, COMP, PC and HDMI mode? I have a LE-37B650 but a LN/LA and/or B550/B750 type could also be sufficient. I'd like to compare the settings of the other input modes, see if they are equal, and if so, copy the AV-mode settings.

(The infamous ADC calibration seems to affect the settings in ADC Result screen. These settings are different for the four types of input: AV, COMP, PC and HDMI mode. If anyone knows of any other settings that are affect by the calibration in a B5/6/7-series LCD, i'd be glad to learn about it.)

In the B550 thread, someone posted a link to a site (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16908612#post16908612) where he as collected the service manuals for several of the 2009 B models. At least in the B550 service manual (http://dump.ru/file/3136456), Samsung gives values for the AVS Result screen for each of the modes in the troubleshooting chapter, page 4-28.

Dijkhuis92
07-31-09, 05:52 AM
In the B550 thread, someone posted a link to a site (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16908612#post16908612) where he as collected the service manuals for several of the 2009 B models. At least in the B550 service manual (http://dump.ru/file/3136456), Samsung gives values for the AVS Result screen for each of the modes in the troubleshooting chapter, page 4-28.

Hmm, looks like the settings for a B550 are different from my LE37B652.

Could anyone with a B650/B651/B652 etc. post screenshots of the ADC Result screen while in all four modes (AV, COMP, PC and HDMI mode)? Cycle throuh the different sources with the source button on your remote to see all four different modes (the mode used is in the first line on your screen).

Robin17
08-05-09, 04:53 AM
I have done the same stupid thing with my LE37B550. As the right arrow on the control selects options, my understanding was that the left arrow would results in going back. Now I'm stuck with the AV Calibration failure and I can't get it right. I've used two checkboard patterns, displayed via my Wii. But still the AV Calibration is failed.

Does anyone have the normal values of the AV Results?

Robin17
08-06-09, 03:32 AM
Yesterday I have tested different patterns on my television and luckily it now passed the AV Calibration. Only the colors are still not completely right..

akakitsu
10-12-09, 09:11 AM
Hmm, looks like the settings for a B550 are different from my LE37B652.

Could anyone with a B650/B651/B652 etc. post screenshots of the ADC Result screen while in all four modes (AV, COMP, PC and HDMI mode)? Cycle throuh the different sources with the source button on your remote to see all four different modes (the mode used is in the first line on your screen).

I second this. I only need the one for component though as that is the one i messed up. I tried some checker pattern images from my xbox 360 but i can't seem to get a success. My specific TV model is LE32B650T2P.

Dijkhuis92
10-12-09, 09:56 AM
akakisu, can you post your settings for the 4 different inputs?

mine are:
http://members.casema.nl/b.dijkman/ADC-WB-Menu.jpg
http://members.casema.nl/b.dijkman/AV_Result.jpg
http://members.casema.nl/b.dijkman/COMP_Result.JPG
http://members.casema.nl/b.dijkman/PC_Result.JPG
http://members.casema.nl/b.dijkman/HDMI_Result.JPG

akakitsu
10-12-09, 10:26 AM
Here are mine. Thanks for your pics.

All i had to change was the 1st_Y_GL of COMP to your value and all works as it should now! Once again, thank you for your help.

Dijkhuis92
10-18-09, 09:30 AM
Here are mine. Thanks for your pics.

All i had to change was the 1st_Y_GL of COMP to your value and all works as it should now! Once again, thank you for your help.

Thanks,

this was exactly what i needed!

It looks like B650 models have identical calibration settings.

JT3518
10-20-09, 06:26 AM
Thanks,

this was exactly what i needed!

It looks like B650 models have identical calibration settings.

Did you recalibrate with the checkerboard pattern and get SUCCESS?

nosepass2
10-26-09, 06:04 PM
Some pictures for you guys.

http://img38.imageshack.us/i/page1yj.jpg/
http://img18.imageshack.us/i/page2qz.jpg/
http://img24.imageshack.us/i/page3yt.jpg/
http://img9.imageshack.us/i/page4sj.jpg/
http://img38.imageshack.us/i/page5mj.jpg/


Alright, peace! GL!

Splesh85
10-27-09, 04:24 PM
Some pictures for you guys.


Can anyone tell me where I can find "720p Lattice (N0. 6) pattern" please?

dkodko123
11-03-09, 11:36 PM
Some pictures for you guys.
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Alright, peace! GL!

just wanted to say many thanks to nosepass2 and Mikl1984 for assistance. i like many others was stupid or rather careless (since left arrow triggering a menu item is pretty confusing) enough to accidentally trigger calibration on AV input (ln46b650 is the model). i tried different checker box images 8x8, 6x7 with different sizes sent from either blue ray player or dvd player with no luck. what actually worked is a 7x6 with top left black (res 1280x720, but i suspect other checker box images/resolutions would work fine as well) sent from a pc with s-video (regular 4-pin)+rca adapter (just google for diy schematics, i got mine from monoprice instead of soldering as i was also getting some other stuff at the same time) good luck.