View Full Version : Saving Private Ryan , DTS VERSION
kirtis_mcleskey
09-30-06, 10:15 PM
anyone here have the dts version of saving private ryan,
I have the older copy that just has the dolby digital ,a nd I have a dts demo disc that has a clip from the movie in dts and it blows the dolby soundtrack away .
Airboss
09-30-06, 10:47 PM
anyone here have the dts version of saving private ryan,
I do. It's much better than the DD version.
Premise
09-30-06, 10:56 PM
I also own it. It's one of the best reference tracks to show off your gear.
Brent Madden
10-01-06, 01:06 AM
Yup, got it and it's probably the best DTS track I've ever heard. Absolutely incredible!
Me, too.
Also JAWS and GALAXY QUEST.
Get the DTS if you can
Greybeard191
10-02-06, 11:18 AM
I have it, unfortunately for those of you that don't, it's out of print.
that said, there are copies available on eBay or Amazon (used mostly, some still new and shrink-wrapped), but they're not cheap.
GB
Its as awesome as "WOTW" in DTS, but a much much much better movie~!
Scott Simonian
10-02-06, 11:01 PM
Yep. Got it the day it came out. Some of the best reference audio out there.
The full bitrate HD (or Blu-Ray) version will of course be even better, so just sit tight and wait awhile....
Scott Simonian
10-03-06, 01:52 PM
The full bitrate HD (or Blu-Ray) version will of course be even better, so just sit tight and wait awhile....
I can say with confidence that I think if one were to come out...be it DD+/DDtHD/DTS-MA/or plz,plz,plz PCM...I would pick up a player just for this movie.
lateforwork
10-03-06, 03:50 PM
i just watched this movie the other day for the first time in a long time.....it blows me away everytime
I can say with confidence that I think if one were to come out...be it DD+/DDtHD/DTS-MA/or plz,plz,plz PCM...I would pick up a player just for this movie.
Shouldn't the DD+HD or DTS-MA have the identical end result as the PCM? If those are truely lossless compression schemes, they will decode to the equivalent PCM.
Ed
kirtis_mcleskey
10-03-06, 06:14 PM
mcan you guys lead me to a place to get this
i see copies on ebay , but i dont trust them as i have bought 7 , yes 7 copies of the haunting to get the dts track , to be dissapointed that its just dolby digital everytime I get it in .
Brent Madden
10-03-06, 06:23 PM
The full bitrate HD (or Blu-Ray) version will of course be even better, so just sit tight and wait awhile....
That can be said of practically any DVD, but nobody knows how long it's going to be and the OP might not want to wait that long. It's definitely worth picking up on regular DVD for the DTS track alone.
motorcity
10-03-06, 06:32 PM
I have the SPR DTS....
yes...it is awesome....
Show the first scene to your friends....
They will be blown away if they don'e have the kind of equipment you have.
My favorite show off DVD also.
i see copies on ebay , but i dont trust them as i have bought 7 , yes 7 copies of the haunting to get the dts track , to be dissapointed that its just dolby digital everytime I get it in .
Do you not use ebay a lot or something? Don't scare this guy for no reason, sheesh. When buying this sort of thing from ebay you should verify the UPC of the disc with the seller, it takes like 30 seconds of your time. You can get exactly what you're looking for the first time every time.
The OP should disregard this as FUD, as generally is anything people say in sweeping generalizations about "all ebay auctions".
Do you not use ebay a lot or something? Don't scare this guy for no reason, sheesh. When buying this sort of thing from ebay you should verify the UPC of the disc with the seller, it takes like 30 seconds of your time. You can get exactly what you're looking for the first time every time.
The OP should disregard this as FUD, as generally is anything people say in sweeping generalizations about "all ebay auctions".
He is the original poster, dude.
Terminator840
10-04-06, 06:12 PM
I picked up my copy at Half Price Books for like $5 bucks. I love going there you never know what treasures you can find.
Back when SPR first came out on DVD I bought the DD version because at the time the Sony A/V I had didn't do DTS. So now I have both versions, and the DTS is king.
Terminator840
10-04-06, 06:18 PM
Here is a brand new copy from DVDworldonline.com for $13.99
http://www.dvdworldonline.com/images/Saving_Private_Ryan_DTS_DVD.jpg
This cover artwork is slightly different from the original release cover, has the DTS version been re-released?, or did they make the change some time ago.
Scott Simonian
10-05-06, 02:38 PM
A couple of years ago the DD and DTS versions went OOP when the 60th aniversery edition came out. IIRC, there was a two and three disc...the three disc had dts on it.
SKYWLKR
10-09-06, 09:09 AM
Is the block buster online "the DTS" version?
it says it has DTS
http://www.blockbuster.com/catalog/DisplayMoreMovieProductDetails.action?movieID=1083804&channel=Movies&subChannel=sub#Product
Is the block buster online "the DTS" version?
it says it has DTS
http://www.blockbuster.com/catalog/DisplayMoreMovieProductDetails.action?movieID=1083804&channel=Movies&subChannel=sub#Product
The one I got from BB wasn't, but you never know
Go here (http://www.amazon.com/Saving-Private-Ryan-Steven-Spielberg/dp/B00001ZWUT/ref=imdbpov_dvd_2/104-9545255-8759957?ie=UTF8) if you want to buy it.
As good as the dvd was, there will probably be an HD DVD edition released soon with a lossless audio track on it.
kirtis_mcleskey
11-06-06, 02:44 PM
ive gotten a copy of it from amember here, an original copy for $20 bucks including shipping , really and awesome movie as well as sound and I even think the picture looks great, most movies when in action packed scenes, the camera likes to jump around alot and make things blurry , however in this movie the pictures stays sharp and there is no motion blur during the fast scenes
I also got a copy of the haunting ,
I listened to it at reference level on my svs pb 12 plus sub , and it knocked of the blinds off
Nachosgrande
11-06-06, 03:08 PM
mcan you guys lead me to a place to get this
i see copies on ebay , but i dont trust them as i have bought 7 , yes 7 copies of the haunting to get the dts track , to be dissapointed that its just dolby digital everytime I get it in .
Kirtis, I have a bridge in NY that is for sale...transaction will not be on ebay, so it's legit... ;)
FoxyMulder
11-06-06, 04:04 PM
Did they do a different mix for the dts track ?
If they did a different mix and a Dolby True HD version comes out for one of the high definition formats based on the Dolby mix then people might end up being a little disappointed....on the other hand if it's the same mix only the dts version's bass and surrounds are higher in volume so as to give a placebo effect of being better then thats ok and easily calibrated for.....anyone know if 2 different mixes were done for this film for DVD ?
Scott Simonian
11-06-06, 05:33 PM
.....anyone know if 2 different mixes were done for this film for DVD ?
Yes. It's a known fact. SPR had two mixes. A DD and dts. The Haunting was the same. As was WotW.
Shane Martin
11-06-06, 10:23 PM
And a 3rd mix for the Laserdisc. Anyone who says the Dolby Track stinks hasn't heard that version :) The DTS is slightly better than the DD LD but I attribute those to mix differences rather than DTS being 'a better format'
anyone here have the dts version of saving private ryan,
I have the older copy that just has the dolby digital ,a nd I have a dts demo disc that has a clip from the movie in dts and it blows the dolby soundtrack away .They were released at the same time. The DTS used a different master, so makes any comparison irrelevant.
And a 3rd mix for the Laserdisc. Anyone who says the Dolby Track stinks hasn't heard that version :) The DTS is slightly better than the DD LD but I attribute those to mix differences rather than DTS being 'a better format'
I have a feeling that was the theatrical direct transfer,[standard parctice for LDs] and the dvd's got the "remixed for home" versions, of course the DTS was "sweetened" to "advance" the format no doubt by shareholder Spielberg's request, just like the JP DTS LD.
John Ballentine
11-07-06, 07:39 AM
Incredible film! I have both the Dolby Digital and DTS versions. The DTS is clearly my favorite version/mix. Can't wait for the HD version - hopefully w/ DTS-MA.
Widescreen Review of the DTS version soundtrack:
The DTS® Digital Surround soundtrack projects a realistic sense of immediacy and exceptionally conveys the dimensionality, depth and impact of the intended sound mix. The sound is incredibly coherent with a seamlessly integrated holosonic soundfield that projects pinpoint delineation and realistic sidewall and center back surround phantom imaging. Interchannel detail is articulate for overall clarity. This soundtrack is a powerhouse of intensity. For over 24 minutes continuously you will experience the most dramatic and full scale SPL holosonic soundfield of any motion picture soundtrack yet to be produced. No other soundtrack to date, whether DTS Digital Surround or Dolby Digital encoded, has delivered such a dimensionally spatial sound sculpture with such breathtaking and intensely emotional impact. The sound breathes life into the stunning imagery, in this case, sadly, war depicted in intimate combat at Omaha Beach. Bullets whiz by in all directions, explosives impact throughout the soundfield, machine gun fire emanates from the split surrounds and you feel the deeply powerful bass, intensified by the full scale .1 LFE at below 25Hz. Even the surround channels are driven full scale SPL at below 25Hz. This is a soundtrack that is capable of damaging audio systems not capable of intense full scale 25Hz bass. It is a soundtrack that demands full range loudspeaker capability in all channels! No single subwoofer directed by bass management can project the bass-energized holosonic imaging this soundtrack creates. You are immersed in the holosonic soundfield for what seems endless. Even shots underwater are felt and heard with a realism that is breathtaking. The John Williams music score, recorded and mixed by Shawn Murphy, is sweeping and dynamic with a deep soundstage and an expansive presence that extends well into the surrounds. The DTS encoding reveals subtle harmonic textures and distinctive directionalized soundfield energy. The sound perspective shifts perfectly in accord with the picture angles for effective localization. Low frequency effects are natural sounding yet at times extremely powerful. Dialogue is disappointing because it is almost entirely ADR-produced and is wanting in natural spatial integration. But then this is a challenging feat considering that the dialogue takes place largely on battlefields, open countrysides and shelled towns. In scenes with pounding rain, the sound is enveloping and able to create chills. And what wonderful extended dimension is created by the back center phantom channel! Listen for the center back fly-overs by the P-51s with your Surround EX-type processor engaged. The sound is exhilarating. There are instances when dialogue emanates from a surround channel amidst aggressive soundfield envelopment that is very effective. There is so much to celebrate with this sound design. This spatially dynamic soundfield experience ranks among the greatest soundtracks of all time. The richly spatial holosonic soundfield is what we have always advocated and enthusiastically applaud here. While we wonder what subtleties in the audio would be revealed had DreamWorks opted to encode at 1536 kbps, for those fortunate enough to have DTS Digital Surround processing capability, the 768 kbps DTS DVD release will for now have to serve as the definitive soundtrack for Saving Private Ryan.
This Disc Contains The Following WSR-Rated Superb Qualities:
Collector Edition
Reference Quality
Superb Cinematography
Superb Special Visual Effects Quality
Superb Music Score Recording Quality
Superb Sound Effects Recording Quality
Finalheaven
11-07-06, 11:29 AM
I too have the DTS version. I went HD, upscaled, and Big Screen after the printing of the DTS version of Saving Private Ryan, so I had a dilemma in getting one. I basically searched every Best Buy and Target I could find. Eventually, I got lucky and found one at a Best Buy.
Whatever you do, don't give up and settle for the Dolby version. If you have the screen and sound to support it, you'll thank yourself later for holding out until you found the DTS version.
Greybeard191
11-07-06, 03:54 PM
dts versions are available for sale on eBay
GB
Incredible film! I have both the Dolby Digital and DTS versions. The DTS is clearly my favorite version/mix. Can't wait for the HD version - hopefully w/ DTS-MA.
Widescreen Review of the DTS version soundtrack:
The DTS® Digital Surround soundtrack projects a realistic sense of immediacy and exceptionally conveys the dimensionality, depth and impact of the intended sound mix. The sound is incredibly coherent with a seamlessly integrated holosonic soundfield that projects pinpoint delineation and realistic sidewall and center back surround phantom imaging. Interchannel detail is articulate for overall clarity. This soundtrack is a powerhouse of intensity. For over 24 minutes continuously you will experience the most dramatic and full scale SPL holosonic soundfield of any motion picture soundtrack yet to be produced. No other soundtrack to date, whether DTS Digital Surround or Dolby Digital encoded, has delivered such a dimensionally spatial sound sculpture with such breathtaking and intensely emotional impact. The sound breathes life into the stunning imagery, in this case, sadly, war depicted in intimate combat at Omaha Beach. Bullets whiz by in all directions, explosives impact throughout the soundfield, machine gun fire emanates from the split surrounds and you feel the deeply powerful bass, intensified by the full scale .1 LFE at below 25Hz. Even the surround channels are driven full scale SPL at below 25Hz. This is a soundtrack that is capable of damaging audio systems not capable of intense full scale 25Hz bass. It is a soundtrack that demands full range loudspeaker capability in all channels! No single subwoofer directed by bass management can project the bass-energized holosonic imaging this soundtrack creates. You are immersed in the holosonic soundfield for what seems endless. Even shots underwater are felt and heard with a realism that is breathtaking. The John Williams music score, recorded and mixed by Shawn Murphy, is sweeping and dynamic with a deep soundstage and an expansive presence that extends well into the surrounds. The DTS encoding reveals subtle harmonic textures and distinctive directionalized soundfield energy. The sound perspective shifts perfectly in accord with the picture angles for effective localization. Low frequency effects are natural sounding yet at times extremely powerful. Dialogue is disappointing because it is almost entirely ADR-produced and is wanting in natural spatial integration. But then this is a challenging feat considering that the dialogue takes place largely on battlefields, open countrysides and shelled towns. In scenes with pounding rain, the sound is enveloping and able to create chills. And what wonderful extended dimension is created by the back center phantom channel! Listen for the center back fly-overs by the P-51s with your Surround EX-type processor engaged. The sound is exhilarating. There are instances when dialogue emanates from a surround channel amidst aggressive soundfield envelopment that is very effective. There is so much to celebrate with this sound design. This spatially dynamic soundfield experience ranks among the greatest soundtracks of all time. The richly spatial holosonic soundfield is what we have always advocated and enthusiastically applaud here. While we wonder what subtleties in the audio would be revealed had DreamWorks opted to encode at 1536 kbps, for those fortunate enough to have DTS Digital Surround processing capability, the 768 kbps DTS DVD release will for now have to serve as the definitive soundtrack for Saving Private Ryan.
This Disc Contains The Following WSR-Rated Superb Qualities:
Collector Edition
Reference Quality
Superb Cinematography
Superb Special Visual Effects Quality
Superb Music Score Recording Quality
Superb Sound Effects Recording Quality
WSR rates anything superb as long as it has a DTS track on it. Nuff said!
Nachosgrande
11-17-06, 10:23 AM
Just purchased DTS version on Amazon used for $8. Will have to compare with Anniversary Edition which was supposed to be the latest and greatest a few years back. You would have thought that the deluxe edition would have the best soundtrack!!!
Digital2004
11-17-06, 11:54 AM
lol
anyway the laserdisc DD is ABSOLUTE REFERENCE and when you think it's most likely only 383 kbps....
imagine the HD DVD (Universal) in DD+ or D TRUE HD !!!
Scott Simonian
11-17-06, 02:56 PM
Or if Dreamworks does Blu-ray and we get SPR in PCM...that would be better than anything...well, other than maybe a 24/96khz PCM track.
Or if Dreamworks does Blu-ray and we get SPR in PCM...that would be better than anything...well, other than maybe a 24/96khz PCM track.Hey Scott - you never commented on my post #12.
Ed
Shane Martin
11-17-06, 11:25 PM
I have a feeling that was the theatrical direct transfer,[standard parctice for LDs] and the dvd's got the "remixed for home" versions, of course the DTS was "sweetened" to "advance" the format no doubt by shareholder Spielberg's request, just like the JP DTS LD
No doubt.
Spongeworthy
11-18-06, 12:15 AM
I do. It's much better than the DD version.I've never sampled the DD version, but the DTS is reference quality sound-wise. If anyone needs a demo of how good surround and LFE can be in service of a film, this disc fills the bill better than any other.
I've never sampled the DD version, but the DTS is reference quality sound-wise. If anyone needs a demo of how good surround and LFE can be in service of a film, this disc fills the bill better than any other.
I agree as long as your reference stops at 30hz for bass. If you wanna demo true bass, move on to Black Hawk Down. :)
Spongeworthy
11-18-06, 03:56 PM
I agree as long as your reference stops at 30hz for bass. If you wanna demo true bass, move on to Black Hawk Down. :)My Hsu STF-2 doesn't go low enough. If I ever get the STF-3, BHD will be tops on my list. Still, on my system the approach of the Panzer and Tiger divisions at the end of SPR is what great LFE is all about.
If you stick with HSU get that turbo thingy[VTF3?], of course no single 12" sub can do justice to BHD, but it's a start.
majewski
01-04-07, 09:39 PM
Just watched this movie it's amazing the DTS sound is awesome. Anyone interested in my Saving Private Ryan DTS DVD it's in excellent condition. You have to have PayPal
nomad139
01-05-07, 01:52 AM
I watched about an hour of this landmark movie last night for the first time in a while. Watched on my new projector & rear surrounds that I got for Christmas. All I can say is WOW!!!!!
The DTS sound just comes at you from everywhere.
The emotion level that this movie brings in the first place is quite high, but DTS, 104" screen, and a truly surrounding sound makes me wish that I saw this at the theater. At least I get to see it whenever I want now.
I will ABSOLUTELY be using this DVD as one of my "show off" movies. If you don't have it in your collection already, wait for a sale & buy it (or suck up the few extra $ and buy it anyway). You will alternate between tears of joy at the sound experience & tears of sorrow at what your eyes see on the screen.
majewski
01-05-07, 06:13 PM
I can't believe how amazing the sound is on this movie as well.
Let's just imagine in the next 10 years we'll be watching movies at home on 200 inch screens with resolution 1080p being as old as 480i. There are going to be minimum 8 speakers. Advancement in technology is really scary. I like the "I Robot" movie because it seems that in the future robots will replace us some day. I am glad I won't live to see that day.
Scott Simonian
01-05-07, 07:17 PM
Shouldn't the DD+HD or DTS-MA have the identical end result as the PCM? If those are truely lossless compression schemes, they will decode to the equivalent PCM.
Sorry, ekb, I missed this thread for a while....
I think if the algorithm was perfect then, yes, it would be the same as PCM. I perfer the uncompressed soundtrack over a folded "theoretical" PCM track. Just a a pet peeve. Yeah, they are "bit-for-bit" identical. But they are being processed by the decoder instead of just a pass-through.
Honestly, Ive never heard any of the new lossless formats so I really have no place to be saying anything about the quality of either....
I think if the algorithm was perfect then, yes, it would be the same as PCM. I perfer the uncompressed soundtrack over a folded "theoretical" PCM track. Just a a pet peeve. Yeah, they are "bit-for-bit" identical. But they are being processed by the decoder instead of just a pass-through.
I can understand your scepticism since I'm the eternal sceptic. But this process is essentially identical to compressing a data file on a computer (eg zipping) and we know that the unzipping process restores the exact original file since otherwise it "wouldn't work". But on the other hand, zipping and unzipping is not a real time application like decoding the DD trueHD - so maybe you have a point. ;)
Ed
I can understand your scepticism since I'm the eternal sceptic. But this process is essentially identical to compressing a data file on a computer (eg zipping) and we know that the unzipping process restores the exact original file since otherwise it "wouldn't work". But on the other hand, zipping and unzipping is not a real time application like decoding the DD trueHD - so maybe you have a point. ;)
Ed
MLP for DVD-A is a same thing, It's Packed PCM or PPCM.Nobody complains about it's sound quality either.
Nachosgrande
01-08-07, 08:02 PM
Does anyone have any info regarding DTS version of SPR which have errors on them? I remeber seeing a post awhile back but cannot find it using the SEARCH function! There was info regarding serial numbers... much appreciated!
Does anyone have any info regarding DTS version of SPR which have errors on them? I remeber seeing a post awhile back but cannot find it using the SEARCH function! There was info regarding serial numbers... much appreciated!
I kinda remember that but I thought it was for another movie because I have SPR in DTS and I would have checked mine. It was a movie that I don't own.
Ed
Legairre
01-08-07, 11:48 PM
I think you guys are thinking of Jurassic Park where the code PECM D2R1 on the inner circle of the DVD meant it had the LFE record way to low. The DVD was was re-issued with the code PECM D2R2 and the LFE corrected. SPR has always been fine.
Nachosgrande
01-09-07, 02:06 PM
Thank you Legairre, I must have been confused with the 2 Spielberg movies. I am in the market for Jurassic Park DTS, so that info is appreciated.
bgillyjcu
01-09-07, 02:15 PM
You guys are killing my wallet!! LOL
Now I HAVE to find this DTS version to test out on my HT!!!!
I'm still sad that I cannot fully appriciate how good Blackhawk Down DTS is with the IRENE scene....I wish I had more than my single PB-12NSD.
(Maybe when I'm a little more well off I'll get 2 new SVS ULTRA subs....think I'll hear, errr...I mean FEEL that 5-7hz bass then????)
Does Saving Private Ryan DTS have any insane bass like IRENE????
Legairre
01-09-07, 03:29 PM
Nope most of the SPR bass is around 30Hz range.
Greybeard191
01-09-07, 03:48 PM
the SPR DTS track doesn have perhaps the most immersive sound you'll every hear. You will SWEAR you are right smack in the middle of EVERYTHING.
Even in the quiet parts, there's will directed distant gunfire etc. You feel WET when it rains... it just goes on and on.
GB
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