Thanks to another forum member for providing me with the DCPI number for this, I was able to pick this up at Target ( love Target ).

First let me preface by saying I am a firm believer in to each his own when it comes to reviews so this is just my take on spreading the word on this disc. In case any questions on it, I am running a ISF'ed Sony CRT RPTV with sound provided by an HK running 7.1 JBL and Velo sub. I used the True HD track with the back channles matrixed for 7.1 analog with a splitter.

I know that we have been paitently waiting for this title since first glimpsing it on the demo and advert materials for our new players and I will firmly state that it was WORTH the wait. This disc is why I bought into this new format. I own most of the titles and the ones I do not I have netflixed so I have seen em all and hands down this will be what i use to show what this format can do.

the picture: simply superb, the color the blacks the subtle, very subtle, film grain that reminds you this is a film, everything about this transfer was what I hoped for.

the sound: the true HD track smokes all others, this is the best soundtrack presentation I have heard in my home

Scenes: The scence with Bale and Neeson on the ice and of course the bat mobile chase are now my showoff clips, and I mean SHOW OFF....

I have yet to delve into the features but I am looking forward to it, I am not going to deny that I am also a HUGE fan of this film and this certainly can color my opinion on "reviewing" it but being a fan truely set my expectations higher and they indeed where met.

Warners did an outstanding job on this disc......

Echo.

Glad you were able to find it. This is one title I will be watching again very soon.

Stace

Can you provide me with the DCPI # via PM? I would love to try to get this title!

:( :( :( *Need Batman*

Thanks to another forum member for providing me with the DCPI number for this, I was able to pick this up at Target ( love Target ).

First let me preface by saying I am a firm believer in to each his own when it comes to reviews so this is just my take on spreading the word on this disc. In case any questions on it, I am running a ISF'ed Sony CRT RPTV with sound provided by an HK running 7.1 JBL and Velo sub. I used the True HD track with the back channles matrixed for 7.1 analog with a splitter.

I know that we have been paitently waiting for this title since first glimpsing it on the demo and advert materials for our new players and I will firmly state that it was WORTH the wait. This disc is why I bought into this new format. I own most of the titles and the ones I do not I have netflixed so I have seen em all and hands down this will be what i use to show what this format can do.

the picture: simply superb, the color the blacks the subtle, very subtle, film grain that reminds you this is a film, everything about this transfer was what I hoped for.

the sound: the true HD track smokes all others, this is the best soundtrack presentation I have heard in my home

Scenes: The scence with Bale and Neeson on the ice and of course the bat mobile chase are now my showoff clips, and I mean SHOW OFF....

I have yet to delve into the features but I am looking forward to it, I am not going to deny that I am also a HUGE fan of this film and this certainly can color my opinion on "reviewing" it but being a fan truely set my expectations higher and they indeed where met.

Warners did an outstanding job on this disc......

Echo.

Hey, any and all reviews are good when making decisions on titles. Thanks for this!

One question, and not to get any one poster or retailer into any kind of trouble, but...Target had it on the shelves this far ahead of the official street date? I may have to stroll to my Target that's just a few blocks away... ;)

What was the DCPI # you used to get Target to bring it out from the back.

I would like to know also. Im thinking of heading to town later. Thanks

how were you able to get this movie before the october 10 release datE?

me too...just you just go in and hand someone the number??

me too...just you just go in and hand someone the number??

LOL. I'm trying to figure that out as well. I have never seen any hd dvds at my local target.

What was the DCPI # you used to get Target to bring it out from the back.

The number that precedes the item description is 058270029. There is another number at the bottom that is a VCD# 741-250-140. That is all I see that would be of any use. Hope it helps.

Link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=730223&page=1&pp=30)

Stace

LOL. I'm trying to figure that out as well. I have never seen any hd dvds at my local target.

Another user reported that Target are going to start selling HD-DVD on October 8

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=712910

My friend managed to pick-up "Batman Begins" early, he mentioned that the HD disc puts the standard DVD to shame. I cannot wait! :)

I used the True HD track with the back channles matrixed for 7.1 analog with a splitter.
Does this work well(your using Y adaptors I assume)? I've considered doing it, but I've wondered how it would effect the sound.

Excellent to hear about Batman, I can't wait to get this movie! I've litterally been holding off watching the DVD, since the dawn of HD-DVD.

How were they allowed to sell you it 10 days in advanced?

I'm surprised nobody has asked what the price was for this at Target. So I guess I'll be the first. How much was it?

I'm surprised nobody has asked what the price was for this at Target. So I guess I'll be the first. How much was it?

Who cares! :D

ECHO???What does the TRUEDHD soundlike when compared to the other TRUEHD titles??...and does it have the HDi/U-control features like F&F Tokyo Drift?...thanks quickfire

The number that precedes the item description is 058270029. There is another number at the bottom that is a VCD# 741-250-140. That is all I see that would be of any use. Hope it helps.

Link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=730223&page=1&pp=30)

Stace

058270029 Should be the number that the Target stores require to look it up and check inventory ( their DCPI's are usually 9 digit numbers that start with 0 ) .

------- Jason

Went to my Target. Asked the snot-nosed kid in electronics to look up that number, he just said "no" after looking it up and walked away because he said he was on his break. I felt like grabbing him by the collar and saying "no, what??"

Ah, customer service. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I found one of the price scanners on the wall, and punched in that number. It came up with Batman Begins HD-DVD for 19.99, but it said there were none in stock in store. :(

I'll keep trying this week.

I just scored a copy at my local Target. I gave the person in the dept the code and he said they had it in stock. He went in the back and came out with what he said was the last copy. I will throw this in the player as soon as I can run the wife off the TV.

I just scored a copy at my local Target. I gave the person in the dept the code and he said they had it in stock. He went in the back and came out with what he said was the last copy. I will throw this in the player as soon as I can run the wife off the TV.


Details, details, we want details!!!

How's the TrueHD?

How's the IME (is it also called U-Control)?

How's the PQ with all the action and dark scenes?

[/little kid who's had too much sugar jumping up and down] :eek:

Echo, thanks for the review. IMHO Batman Begins is one of the best movies to have been released in recent years and also puts most superhero movies to shame. I have always loved the opening sequence on this with the music and the bats and can only imagine how it shines with TruHD. Unfortunately I only own Bluray, though I expect this title to be released shortly, it certainly wont have TruHD..... For once I am jealous of you guys!!!! :(

Details, details, we want details!!!

How's the TrueHD?

How's the IME (is it also called U-Control)?

How's the PQ with all the action and dark scenes?

[/little kid who's had too much sugar jumping up and down] :eek:

Still trying to get the wife off the TV. I tried explaining to her how important it was to you guys and how I didn't want to let you guys down. She just gave me a look and sent me back to my room. :D

You let the wife stand between you and an early peek at 'BB' on HD-DVD? Dude, you're sooooooooo whipped! ;)

You let the wife stand between you and an early peek at 'BB' on HD-DVD? Dude, you're sooooooooo whipped! ;)

What's she doing? Watching football? JK :D

Let us know how it looks and sounds when you get the chance. I love it when guys on this forum get releases early.

I got one too , looks good so far on LCD HDtv but not watching on the projection system yet ;) . Image is very contrasty and blacks look top notch , I have noticed a very slight amount of film grain on some scenes but it is very sharp and detailed .

My local store only had one copy and it was not popped onto the retention ring when I opened it (has a few very light scratches) so I will be exchanging it on Oct. 8th when they get more ( which I hope they do ;) ) .

Price was $19.99 .

--------- Jason

Ok, with DCPI # in hand I'm off to my local Target to see if the have BB in stock. Wish me luck! :D

I just called my local Target Greatland and when they looked up the DCPI number, it said "Item Not Found."

Edit: Called the other, smaller Target in town and they have one! I'm off to buy it! Thanks!

Checked four Targets in my area and only three had them, each with one copy each.

I finally ran her off the TV. After skimming through the disc I can say that it was worth the wait. The picture is probably the best I have seen out of the 55 HD DVDs I own. I didn't pick up Tokyo Drift so I can't compare it to that, but I think that the picture is stellar.

Now the TrueHD track is where this disc shines. Any scene with the tumbler...OH MY!!! During the training scene on the ice you can hear the ice cracking as they fight. I mean it sounds like you are standing on the ice with them. Even my wife said they she could hear the difference. The final showdown in the movie sounds great also.

I turned the IME (In Movie Experience) on for a few minutes. It seemed like there was a lot of time between segments, but I only watched the first 10 minutes or so. It looks like all of the extra features from the 2 disc set have been ported over this disc.

I would say that this is probably the best all around HD DVD out right now. And if other companies strive to match this disc we will have a lot to talk about when it comes to quality releases.

you guys are lucky.... I've checked 4 local taget and none of them had it. Well, I just have to wait for the amazon pre-order to arrive..... :(

Picked it up at Target. The guy said "I don't even know if this is meant to be out yet, but ssshh!" Off to watch it now, thanks again!

Edit: I asked if they could look for any of the October 10th releases (I listed them by name), but they only had Batman.

Thanks for another awesome tip, AVS members. I just came back from the local Target with Batman Begins in my big greedy hands. :D

Got mine.

Noticed it had some weird burns/smudge marks around the outer ring of the HD-DVD (label side).

Holy cow this disc is IT!

There are several reference scenes on this disc, but what's getting me are the small details and the vividness of the colors. The DVD seemed a little drab, but the HD DVD brings out the lifelike fleshtones, the blueness of the mountains, the browns and greens of Gotham City. And people's faces have so much detail to them, it's amazing. This disc is a visual feast.

And the audio, wow, oh the audio. This film has some incredible sound mixing, and the DolbyTrueHD track brings out every nuance. This film is the crown jewel of my entire home theater collection.

I just checked two Target's in my local area, and the number is authentic, but at both stores the red shirts said they didn't have them :(

Did you ask them to check the back? I noticed when I called both of my Targets that they have separate searches for the sales floor and the back.

I just checked two Target's in my local area, and the number is authentic, but at both stores the red shirts said they didn't have them :(
Take comfort in the fact they won't make it to next season.

Did you ask them to check the back? I noticed when I called both of my Targets that they have separate searches for the sales floor and the back.

No, I didn't think of asking them to check the back. Both stores were pretty busy, and the red shirts were helpful but I didn't want to press the matter. The other thing is, this is Long Island, and I have never found a major chain to release any kind of DVD early anywhere on the Island, so I went out with low expectations. I'll just have to wait for my Amazon pre-order to ship. Thanks guys :)

When they pull up the number it tells them if it is in the stock room or not , they know even if they do not tell you .

Makes me wonder if this is going to cause Target any issues for breaking street date , I doubt it since they have a huge amount of retail power but I wonder if any fines will be handed down . I hope not as it would be a shame to ruin a good thing so early on (this could be a great way to score titles early by simply getting their stock numbers and checking around) . I am going to try for Kong next week , lol ;) .

-------- Jason

Four Targets near me, and NONE of them carry HD-DVDs!!!!!!! LIE!!!!!!

This is a major metroplex for ****sake!

Wow you all managed to manipulate our system at Target? None of our stores should have sold Batman before the 10th. For each copy of street date items broken the store gets fined up to $5000! But sadly since I'm a District Manager I'll have to wait until the 10th to pick up my copy. :( Glad to hear that the quality for both the PQ and AQ are excellent!

Big kudos for the tip guys. This is hands down the best place for HD-DVD fans. The third Target I called had it in stock. I had no problems picking it up.

hell ya just got my copy of Batman Begins. Took me 2 stores though as the first target i went to after calling to confirm that it was in stock told me that they just gave it away 5 mins earlier. Guess another avs member beat me to it.

oh well at least i got it at the second store.

I gave the lady employee the DCPI# and she said it was in the back. Two minutes later she came out with the HD-DVD. Now I am about to watch Batman Begins 9 days early. I love AVS Forum, Thanks Guys!!!

I called the Target close to me and they guy said they didn't have it but he'd check the other stores. After checking he found that one store did actually have it in stock, so I called them, and after putting me on hold for a bit, the girl said they didn't have it and hung up. So I guess her manager told her that it wasn't available for sale yet. :(

Wow you all managed to manipulate our system at Target? None of our stores should have sold Batman before the 10th. For each copy of street date items broken the store gets fined up to $5000!

Wow, finally some good news for Blue-Ray!!! (sorry, couldn't help myself! :D)

here's my story! i went to a Target across town (cause i was "convienently" in the neighborhood. i gave the girl the number and she looked it up and said they didn't have it, but the store right by my house did! She asked if she could call them and have them hold it for me, and I said SURE... I then called my wife and asked if she needed to go to Target at all and, get this, she said "I'm at Target right now"!!! I said go pick up BB for me in electronics, and she did. She said a bunch of people were around saying "what's this?, i've never seen this kind of thing before, etc" and she replied matter of factly, "it's HD-DVD" :) how sweet is that!!!

"There is another number at the bottom that is a VCD# 741-250-140."

So which is the DCPI number?

UPDATE: So, it's. 058270029.

I love this forum! What a tip! Got one on hold for me to go pick up.

"There is another number at the bottom that is a VCD# 741-250-140."

So which is the DCPI number?


it is the other number listed, NOT the VCD #

God I love AVS, and Target. I agree with what was stated above, this is the HD DVD to own right now.

Now the big question is: what other HD DVDs can we get early at Target?

Wow you all managed to manipulate our system at Target?

Manipulate? You mean, like this?

"Hi, do you have item 058270029 available?"

"Sure do."

"Here's $19.99 + tax. Give Hulk disc NOW."

"Okay, here you go. Thanks for shopping at Target."

ok austin texas areahas them but won't sell them. I'm bummed. if anyone has any success pick me up a copy and I will give you free pizza forever.

Wow you all managed to manipulate our system at Target? None of our stores should have sold Batman before the 10th. For each copy of street date items broken the store gets fined up to $5000! But sadly since I'm a District Manager I'll have to wait until the 10th to pick up my copy. :( Glad to hear that the quality for both the PQ and AQ are excellent!


And I assume now that all Targets are receiving a memo that they NOT sell BB until the 10th. :(

I picked up mine this afternoon :-) ... lot of people are saying this is the best HD DVD yet as far as quality... I think Corpse Bride might overtake it tho.

3 of 4 Target store in the Las Vegas area have (had) it in stock.

Flamingo & Maryland Parkway

South Nellis

Stephanie (in Henderson)

$19.99

No hassles in picking it up.

Don't worry too much about having Target break a sales date. Unless their system is tied directly to something that reports all sales to movie studios, someone has to report that the street date has been broken for the store to get fined. I don't think HD DVD is big enough yet that anyone would even know that there are street dates to be broken.

Bummer. Silverdale Washington Target has it in their back room but wont sell until the 10th :(

None of the Targets in Vegas seem to sell HD DVDs at all. Only one even knew what they were. Guess I'm waiting till the tenth...

Ironic that today for many of us Target actually lived up to its name! ;)

I just got one on Long Island. They said they had 50 in stock - and had about 20 other titles in stock as well...all in the back room not put out yet.

No problems getting it and they wanted to know if I wanted anything else. They hadn't even broken the boxes open yet.

Another win for HD-DVD!!!

Blah, just called Target and gave them the number, the lady asked me what it was and I told her "Batman Begins on HD DVD." She put me on hold for a second then told me "Yeah we have that, it's $13.98." I have a feeling she didn't exactly look up the right item.

Almost got one. The salesperson went into the stockroom and pulled Batman Begins, but he was very suspicious. He kept saying to himself "I wonder why this isn't on the floor." I told him that Target is waiting to put up their HD DVD display and they don't have any on the floor yet.

But he wasn't satisfied and went to two other workers and asked them why this HD DVD wasn't on the floor yet. As he was ringing me up, one of the other workers said, "Wait a minute. I need to look at the release date." Then he looked it up and said, "Whoa! We can't sell it. No wonder it's not on the floor. It hasn't been released yet. We can get fined big time for that."

So, in the end, I came home empty handed. Apparently my Target workers here in Utah are much smarter than the idiots in other states.

I also question how reliable Target will be for HD DVD purchases. The salesperson told me there were about a dozen HD DVDs in the stockroom but only ONE of each. He thought that was very weird. One of each is not going to go very far.

Least your Targets all carry HD-DVD. I just can't believe none of mine do. :mad:

Targets in Philly area have Batman and Polar Express. I got both just now. NOT easy. Even with the DCPI # it takes a while for them to find it, and then they one copy of each... so, proceed with that in mind.

That being said, I am PSYCHED!!! WooT!! :D

If anyone lives near Neshaminy Target, THEY HAVE ONE OF EACH. Good Luck!!

$19.99 each, btw. ;)

Just got my copy of BB. Finally after calling 5 local Target. The fifth store finally have some copies in the back room.

My local Target store had one but they refused to sell it till the 8th. :(

same happened to me. Took the code to my local Target the kid scanned the code in and said they had one out back. He came back 10 mins later and said it wasnt out there. as i walked out asked another to scan the code in and the code was no longer available, seems like they are wisening up and will not sell it till the 10th. I will just have to wait for my shipment to come in on friday, have them listed on Ebay

You let the wife stand between you and an early peek at 'BB' on HD-DVD? Dude, you're sooooooooo whipped! ;)
LOL. Ok so I'm late reading this thread. :D

I'm not sure why so many targets only seem to have 1 copy --- like I said above, I saw several boxes full and unopened.

Interesting.

Targets in Philly area have Batman and Polar Express. I got both just now. NOT easy. Even with the DCPI # it takes a while for them to find it, and then they one copy of each... so, proceed with that in mind.

That being said, I am PSYCHED!!! WooT!! :D

If anyone lives near Neshaminy Target, THEY HAVE ONE OF EACH. Good Luck!!

$19.99 each, btw. ;)


I wonder if the one on Roosevelt Boulevard has it? :eek:

None of the Targets in Vegas seem to sell HD DVDs at all. Only one even knew what they were. Guess I'm waiting till the tenth...

*Steeb

Did you not read my post above ^^^

3 of 4 Target store in the Las Vegas area have (had) it in stock.

Flamingo & Maryland Parkway

South Nellis

Stephanie (in Henderson)

$19.99

No hassles in picking it up.

Those 3 stores have (had) it in stock as of 2hrs ago... call each store, give them this number: 058270029
and have them look it up. If they have it, tell them to hold it and you'll be right down.

Jeff

got mine at the Flamingo/Maryland Pkwy location

Annoying! I called the Somerville MA, and Watertown MA locations. I gave each the DCPI # and while Somerville didnt have it in stock. Watertown did. So I went down there, and the guy said they dont sell HD DVD's. He assured me none were in the back. I went to customer service, and they said they have never heard of HD DVD and to try Bestbuy. Geesh.. That sucked!

I'm not sure why so many targets only seem to have 1 copy --- like I said above, I saw several boxes full and unopened.

Interesting.

Are you SURE the boxes were "full." The worker told me that there were a dozen boxes, but when he opened them there was a SINGLE HD DVD in each. Just one. He told me it was very weird seeing a single HD DVD in a rather large box.

I wonder if the one on Roosevelt Boulevard has it? :eek:

Not anymore ;) Go to Neshaminy!

I didn't end up having to pick it up for a friend, so they still have one. I was holding it and gave it back to the kid there :)

Manipulate? You mean, like this?

"Hi, do you have item 058270029 available?"

"Sure do."

"Here's $19.99 + tax. Give Hulk disc NOW."

"Okay, here you go. Thanks for shopping at Target."
Well what I meant by manipulate is that evryone on this forum knows the movie was street dated for the 10th. It's fine just a lack of awarness on our part ( Target ) I'm glad you guys got the movie it just bothers me by the lack of training at some of our stores? But on the other hand if some stores break a street date the studio can choose not to send anymore of their titles to that store. Which would be unfortunate for all of us HD-DVD supporters!

Considering the amount of stuff sold at Target, and how relatively unknown HD DVD is, I would be surprised if people did know it was street dated.

*Steeb

Did you not read my post above ^^^



Those 3 stores have (had) it in stock as of 2hrs ago... call each store, give them this number: 058270029
and have them look it up. If they have it, tell them to hold it and you'll be right down.

Jeff

got mine at the Flamingo/Maryland Pkwy location

Really. I actually missed your post. I was just at the Stephanie location and didn't see a single HD DVD. I'm gonna have to try the Flamingo one. I only called the Silverado Ranch & Stephanie locations before giving up. I hope you're right - that would be sweet.

Did you have to ask for it at the Flamingo location?

Thanks for the heads up!

Edit - I just called and an irritated-sounding guy told me he didn't know why everybody keeps calling about that one. He also said they didn't have it in stock. :(

2nd Edit: The Nellis location was a bust, too. Looks like I'm waiting. That sucks.

Considering the amount of stuff sold at Target, and how relatively unknown HD DVD is, I would be surprised if people did know it was street dated.
Every store should be aware of street dates as every store is given a list of street dates for the entertainment areas. The list goes as far ahead as three weeks in advance.

Well what I meant by manipulate is that evryone on this forum knows the movie was street dated for the 10th.

I hear ya. Hopefully nothing will come of it officially, and hopefully education concerning street dates will not become rabidly enforced. A couple local BB's still make discs available a few days before street date, especially if you know one of the blueshirts.

Well I decided to pay a visit to the store after the botched phone call. I took the number and checked it on the price scanner thingie and lo and behold it said they had them in back.

I found a guy in electronics and here's why I won't be shopping at Target for HD DVD or probably anything else for that matter;
Me: Excuse me sir, I was wondering if you could help me out
Guy: *blank stare*
Me: Well, I just called a little bit ago about Batman Begins on HD DVD, I was wonder...
Guy: *interrupts me, gets defensive* She never said anything about HD DVD, I told her we just had the DVD in stock
Me: Ok, that's fine, but I just checked and it says you have some in stock
Guy: Well I'm not putting any out until the reset next week
Me: Oh ok, well I just wondered since you have them in stock...
Guy: It's not even out yet, it's like 10/8 or something, it has a street date, I'm not losing my job over some movie
Me: Alright man, I was just going by the information I had, sorry

Geez, the guy practically jumped down my throat about it right off the bat. He was super defensive the whole time and very rude. All he had to say was "sorry we aren't able to sell those until 10/10" or something. I understand the street dates and I'm fine with it, I was just trying my luck. Even my wife thought the guy was a freak. Looks like I'll be getting this one from Best Buy with my reward certificates.

Thanks for the info guys! I was able to find one of the two stores (that had a copy) here in Memphis that didn't know to hold it until the 10th (the Cordova store is the smart one and will only have one copy available on the 10th!). I also learned from this forum that some Best Buys had the HD-A1 on the shelves early prior to its release and was ale to snag that early as well.

This sure is the place for "EARLY" adopters to get the latest information. :D

I can't wait to pop it and see the great PQ and hear the awesome sound. I'm also looking forward to playing with the IME!

Well I decided to pay a visit to the store after the botched phone call. I took the number and checked it on the price scanner thingie and lo and behold it said they had them in back.

I found a guy in electronics and here's why I won't be shopping at Target for HD DVD or probably anything else for that matter;
Me: Excuse me sir, I was wondering if you could help me out
Guy: *blank stare*
Me: Well, I just called a little bit ago about Batman Begins on HD DVD, I was wonder...
Guy: *interrupts me, gets defensive* She never said anything about HD DVD, I told her we just had the DVD in stock
Me: Ok, that's fine, but I just checked and it says you have some in stock
Guy: Well I'm not putting any out until the reset next week
Me: Oh ok, well I just wondered since you have them in stock...
Guy: It's not even out yet, it's like 10/8 or something, it has a street date, I'm not losing my job over some movie
Me: Alright man, I was just going by the information I had, sorry

Geez, the guy practically jumped down my throat about it right off the bat. He was super defensive the whole time and very rude. All he had to say was "sorry we aren't able to sell those until 10/10" or something. I understand the street dates and I'm fine with it, I was just trying my luck. Even my wife thought the guy was a freak. Looks like I'll be getting this one from Best Buy with my reward certificates.

It's time likes that when you have to screw with people for acting like that. That's just poor customer service, regardless of what you were asking for.

I would have told him that I was upset with his attitude and the guy should be more cautious at work, suggesting he would in fact lose his job if a mystery shopper was in the store. Let him figure it out. :)

Or you could just write the company a complaint email about that store and what had happened. I wrote EB games once over an employee's rude behavior and they contacted me back by phone the next day.

Really. I actually missed your post. I was just at the Stephanie location and didn't see a single HD DVD. I'm gonna have to try the Flamingo one. I only called the Silverado Ranch & Stephanie locations before giving up. I hope you're right - that would be sweet.

Did you have to ask for it at the Flamingo location?

Thanks for the heads up!

Edit - I just called and an irritated-sounding guy told me he didn't know why everybody keeps calling about that one. He also said they didn't have it in stock. :(

2nd Edit: The Nellis location was a bust, too. Looks like I'm waiting. That sucks.
They will not have them out... you need to have one of the store employees check the item number and then go get it for you in back if they are so inclined.

Picked mine up 15 minutes ago from the Mesa, AZ Target on South Power Road. Huge thanks for the DPCI. I got my A1 delivered on Friday and have been itchin to watch something tonight!

Any chance anyone has any other DPCI's for any other HD-DVD's? I have two giftcards to use. Thanks again and enjoy the movie everyone.

-Edit- DPCI's other then Polar Express, I saw the post on that, thanks.

Well, finished watching Batman Begins...

Really, the only word that I could come up with throughout the whole movie, was *stunning*

Seriously, it was gorgeous. Colors and detail were fantastic. Dolby TrueHD was phenomenal. If there is only one disc that I had to take with me to a desert island, this would be it.

Everyone enjoy!

Ed

Well, finished watching Batman Begins...

Really, the only word that I could come up with throughout the whole movie, was *stunning*

Seriously, it was gorgeous. Colors and detail were fantastic. Dolby TrueHD was phenomenal. If there is only one disc that I had to take with me to a desert island, this would be it.

Everyone enjoy!

Ed
Just finish watching it too. The picture and sound were fantastic. Will watch the extras later on. Now bring on King Kong. :D

I was denied at Target also. They even went as far as to bring it out and show it to me. Then tell me the news that they can't sell it!!! They were nice enough to let me hold it.... SHE WILL BE MINE....OH YES, SHE WILL BE MINE

Worked for me in at the Lynnwood WA Target (sorry, they only had one of each). Picked up Batman and Polor Express. Just called ahead, and they held them at the Guest Services counter. This is awesome.

It is so great to see this disc out now. This is one of my favorite movies and I waited for the first encode with much anticipation. When I saw the first check disc a couple of months ago, the image quality put a big smile on my face. And the kicker: this VC-1 movie is encoded at one of the lowest data rates of any HD DVD movie!

I have yet to watch the the whole thing myself. So some of you are ahead of my on this :). But the train scene makes the best resolution chart one can imagine with the crisp likes of the high rise buildings. And the wide glaciers are just breathtaking. As is small details like dirt in the hand (the scene with the blue flower).

If by train scene you mean the climax, yes, I absolutely agree that it looked stunning. The level of detail when Gordon blew the supports off the rails, and the rails fell was fantastic. I found no flaw in the encoding. I saw about two specks of dirt on the actual print, and that was it.

And the sound, wow, what sound. I seem to remember Cj saying he encoded this. We should all give him a big thanks and congrats on a job well done!

I repeat, how are you guys getting a store to sell you this 10 days before its release date?

This thread is full of posts discussing this. It all comes down to the people working at the particular Target. Some are nice and hook us up, some are jerks and shoot us down. But the process is available on the very first page of the thread.

I have 5 Targets, count em, 5 staked out for tomorrow on my route back to college from my parents house. I hope at least one actually sells me a disc. Wish me luck! :)

We just finished watching it about an hour ago, bravo Warner (and everyone who worked on it) this is one hell of a disc.

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Bummer. Silverdale Washington Target has it in their back room but wont sell until the 10th :(

Same thing happen to me at one Target but then I tried another with the product code I got from here and they went back and got it for me!! IT LOOKS AMAZING :D everything I hoped it would be! I guess you just have to find a Target employee that doesn't know anything about HD DVDs :D

Worked for me in at the Lynnwood WA Target (sorry, they only had one of each). Picked up Batman and Polor Express. Just called ahead, and they held them at the Guest Services counter. This is awesome.

Man the chick that answered the phone told me it was instock and they would hold it for me.... I went to get it @ 8:45 and they said they no longer had it. Looks like you beat me to it :) Enjoy heh.

how can they only have 1 copy for each store? what kind of HD DVD roll out is that?

Man the chick that answered the phone told me it was instock and they would hold it for me.... I went to get it @ 8:45 and they said they no longer had it. Looks like you beat me to it :) Enjoy heh.

how can they only have 1 copy for each store? what kind of HD DVD roll out is that?

Maybe they are just testing the waters with one copy of each title at most stores? I guess they'll find out they should order more when they go to stock the shelves on Oct 10th and see they already sold the product. :D

I have a jealousy-fueled hate for each and every one of you scumbags that got an early copy. I'm jinxing you as I type - you will all have your pre-orders for King Kong inexplicably cancelled at the last minute. :D

Enjoy your HD splendor and True HD goodness, jackasses. :D

I have a jealousy-fueled hate for each and every one of you scumbags that got an early copy. I'm jinxing you as I type - you will all have your pre-orders for King Kong inexplicably cancelled at the last minute. :D

Enjoy your HD splendor and True HD goodness, jackasses. :D

and with that said I will watch it again right now in your honor :D .

---- Jason

and with that said I will watch it again right now in your honor :D .

---- Jason

Bastard... :D

That;s cold, Jason...!

;)

and with that said I will watch it again right now in your honor :D .

---- Jason

There goes his keyboard [flung to the nearest wall]

It is so great to see this disc out now. This is one of my favorite movies and I waited for the first encode with much anticipation. When I saw the first check disc a couple of months ago, the image quality put a big smile on my face. And the kicker: this VC-1 movie is encoded at one of the lowest data rates of any HD DVD movie!

I have yet to watch the the whole thing myself. So some of you are ahead of my on this :). But the train scene makes the best resolution chart one can imagine with the crisp likes of the high rise buildings. And the wide glaciers are just breathtaking. As is small details like dirt in the hand (the scene with the blue flower).
Amir,

To get such a low bit rate for a movie with so much action going on, did it require a lot of hours one on one with human compressionists, or is it more a product of the maturation of the vc-1 encoding tools that it didn't require all that much more oversight by a compressionist then earlier encodes that are at a higher bitrate?

you lucky mmffff #$@#$@#$@#$@$##@$@#$ i am so jealous. it eats me up inside. knowing that i have to wait at least to wait a week before i can watch it. #$#$@$#@# damn it aaarghhhhh.

anyway good to hear that the quality is amazing. and that warner keeps up releasing good stuff :)

Bastard... :D

So hostile :( ... I tell you what since I have watched it a couple times already I will mail it out to you asap as long as you cover my investment of $20 and the shipping (whatever shipping method you desire) . Keep in mind this disc was brand new with some very slight light scratches but it plays flawless (not a single glitch) . I can always buy another one when it comes out on the 10th and besides I feel lucky to have been able to see it already .

PM me if your interested .

Just trying to help out a fellow AVS'er :D

----- Jason

I would offer to send you mine for a nominal fee, too, but I take more pleasure in seeing you suffer for a week. :D

Does anybody know if the TrueHD soundtrack is 16 or 24bit?

Amir,

To get such a low bit rate for a movie with so much action going on, did it require a lot of hours one on one with human compressionists, or is it more a product of the maturation of the vc-1 encoding tools that it didn't require all that much more oversight by a compressionist then earlier encodes that are at a higher bitrate?

Cjplay stated that this was one of the hardest encodings to get right. An awfull LOT of man hours went into it obviously...

Does anybody know if the TrueHD soundtrack is 16 or 24bit?

Track is 16bit as there is not a single 24bit TrueHD track available on HD-DVD nor will be for quite some time. For technical reasons for that do a search...

I'm sure it sounds gorgeous nevertheless...

I didn't think there were any technical reasons. I thought it depended on the master and only the latest masters were 24bit.

I'm sure it will sound great. Was just curious, especially as Fox are touting 24bit for their boo-ray titles.

And the kicker: this VC-1 movie is encoded at one of the lowest data rates of any HD DVD movie!


I know, that was a pretty big kicker to me as well...

Glad Target was so "generous" and I'm very glad to see reviews on it. Enjoy!

Cjplay.

Cjplay stated that this was one of the hardest encodings to get right. An awfull LOT of man hours went into it obviously...

First off... 16-bit TrueHD.

Yes, several weeks, in fact.

Cjplay.

Thanks to the Target Tipster my wife and I were able to watch Batman Begins last night. All I can say is wow, probably the best picture and sound I've ever experienced on any format!

Kudo's to WB and the Target Tipster!

I'll be watching it again tonight.

Damn, those Target employees are getting clever. I called a whopping 6 stores to see if I could get my hands on a copy. 4 gave me a no, 1 said they had it and wouldn't sell till next week, but one is actually holding it for me! I can't wait to get it guys!

Just got back from Target and have Batman Begins HD DVD in hand. My HD-A1 is booting up as I type this. Thanks guys for providing the stock number. I called first and they said they had it in stock so I drove over and provided the stock number again, the woman said I'll go in the back and get it. It was $19.99 plus I got an extra 10% off my next purchase from Target.com. What a great day off from work:)

First off... 16-bit TrueHD.

Yes, several weeks, in fact.

Cjplay.

Thanks for the confirmation and for what sounds like a great job with BB. Cant wait to see it.

Are you able to tell us if WB have any desire to go 20-24bit TrueHD in the future?

I hit 2 Target stores locally and neither of them would sell them to me. Someone must have tipped them off. If anyone is willing to part with their copy I would be happy to paypal the funds over and give you my UPS shipper number. I must get this disc ASAP

For those here that also managed to pick up Polar Express, what is the DCPI # for it?

Thanks,

Ian B

For those here that also managed to pick up Polar Express, what is the DCPI # for it?

Thanks,

Ian B
The DCPI # for Polar Express is 058270038.

Not anymore ;) Go to Neshaminy!



LOL Thanks! :) I'll probably just wait for my pre-order. I have it on order from both DVD Empire and Amazon. Whoever ships first wins. And if neither ships it by the 10th, I'll be heading to Best Buy.

I guess there is a hand full of us all from the Philly area :D

The DCPI # for Polar Express is 058270038.

For those that received:
Never inquired about a DCPI number....you just say "could you look up this DCPI number for me" ?

For those that received:
Never inquired about a DCPI number....you just say "could you look up this DCPI number for me" ?

I told them that I had the item number for a movie and could they look it up to see if they had it in stock.

I tried my local Target, but they said they couldn't sell any HD-DVDs until next week :( I see some of you also picked up Polar Express. Any reviews on that title?

It's gonna be hard waiting for all the great titles coming out next week!

I tried my local Target, but they said they couldn't sell any HD-DVDs until next week :( I see some of you also picked up Polar Express. Any reviews on that title?

It's gonna be hard waiting for all the great titles coming out next week!

I plan on watching Polar Express tonight, so I will try to throw up a mini review tonight or early tomorrow. I did take a quick look at it and was impressed by what I saw/heard. I took a look at the "rollercoaster" scene and was amazed by how good it sounded. Serious bass. :D I only wish that a TrueHD track could have been added.

Well, I gave it a try over lunch, and sure enough, got BB, sounded like they only had one copy but not a very big Target. I didn't check on the other titles, figured I could wait. Seems to be hit and miss as to whether they're selling them today...

Got BB and Polar Express at the Westbury, NY Target.

Will watch them later. Just to let all the Long Islanders know.

My Target has them in the back, but they say it's too messy in the back to go look for them. They said I'd have to wait a week or two until they get around to setting up the HD-DVD display.

My HD-A1 is booting up as I type this. Thanks guys for providing the stock number.

This made me laugh. Glad to see I'm not the only one that plans activities while waiting for the machine to become usable.

Got BB and Polar Express at the Westbury, NY Target.

Will watch them later. Just to let all the Long Islanders know.

GREAT - checked Medford, Riverhead, and S. Setauket, but only Medford had Polar Express and the others had zilch. Don't know if the drive to Westbury is worth it...

I called the electronics department at my local target this morning and asked the girl to look up the DCPI #, she looked it up and said they had it, and then asked me If I wanted them to hold it, I was like "HELL YES!" So I drive over there and go to the electronics department and I see the little paper with my name and the DCPI # on the counter. She says, "are you so and so?" I say yes and then she proceeds to call the stock guy. While she is getting him, I give her the DCPI for Polar Express, so she calls the back for that one also. So I wait for about 10 minutes and then the guy comes out the back, looks at me and says, "I have to check and see if these are street-dated before I give them to you." I just knew it was over then, so I look at the girl and roll my eyes, then he comes back 5 minutes later, and I'm just waiting on him to say, "sorry! we can't sell this right now." But lo and behold, he puts the hd-dvds right in my hand and tells me that he just had to make sure they weren't street dated so they don't get screwed. He said they would sell them since the regular dvds had been out for so long. So there we have it! I will be in great movie, pq, and sq heaven this week!

so the question is, are these street dated at Target? He actually checked but sold them to me anyway. Hmmmmm?

yes they are street dated....he is just an idiot and thinks since the SDs are out that the HD-DVDs are ok to sell also.

Scored BB at my local Target in High Point, NC.

I keyed in the DCPI number on one of the scanning stations and saw they had it in stock. Handed the number to an employee and they brought me the disk - no questions asked.

One interesting thing at this location - I couldn't find ANY HD-DVD's out on the floor. Maybe they're going to start stocking them with the 10/10 releases?

Anyway, it's cool to get this early - can't wait to watch it again!

DE

My Target has them in the back, but they say it's too messy in the back to go look for them. They said I'd have to wait a week or two until they get around to setting up the HD-DVD display.

Bastards!

I would have offered to go in the back and help them look for it. ;)

damn it I got rejected again today. this stinks, you guys are lucky. someone pick me up a copy and mail it.

damn it I got rejected again today. this stinks, you guys are lucky. someone pick me up a copy and mail it.

The only problem with that is Target is only getting 1 copy of these titles. Once a person buys it they are sold out. I'm not sure about other areas around the country, but there isn't a whole lot of Targets around my area.

I tried today to get this one...They won't be stocking shelves in my area until tommorrow...and they won't go in back to get them either even with the DCPI #.....The manager is very adament about it...they have them locked up......and here...they will be sitting next to the SD DVD's...same for the BR disc...no special location...So...looks like I'll be waiting till tommorrow...

Mac

The only problem with that is Target is only getting 1 copy of these titles. Once a person buys it they are sold out. I'm not sure about other areas around the country, but there isn't a whole lot of Targets around my area.

Jonathan- you've been a big help for 'the cause' (even though I wasn't as lucky)......thanks

Jonathan- you've been a big help for 'the cause' (even though I wasn't as lucky)......thanks

Usually I am the one that never seems to get lucky when it comes to these kind of things. But this Target has been good to me. I was able to get a Xbox 360 last December when they were so hard to find. Hopefully you can get lucky and run down a copy before next Tuesday.

SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE! Could not believe it, I was able to get it in Austin, Texas. Anyways, took both numbers and had them look them up. They said they were in the back and would get both Polar Express and Batman Begins for $19.95 each. The guy said that there should not be any problems selling them because the originals were already out. I said to him, "ok, you are right." Went and paid for them and now have to debate between Monday Night Football or either movie.

Thanks to everyone here for the heads up.

Ian B

SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE! Could not believe it, I was able to get it in Austin, Texas. Anyways, took both numbers and had them look them up. They said they were in the back and would get both Polar Express and Batman Begins for $19.95 each. The guy said that there should not be any problems selling them because the originals were already out. I said to him, "ok, you are right." Went and paid for them and now have to debate between Monday Night Football or either movie.

Thanks to everyone here for the heads up.

Ian B

Congrats. These are two amazing HD DVDs.

I have to work tonight (gm of a restaurant) hopefully everything will be good for a tomorrow target trip:)

The good news is my local Target in Orlando, FL. had Batman (no PE). Too bad my IN76 waited until now to decide to crap out. Perfect timing. I've got Batman and nothing to watch it on.... well, I could watch it on the 60"Sony A2000, but my wife only uses the tv speakers (yuck) and I have a hard time moving the HD-DVD player downstairs to listen to Batman Begins with those speakers...

I'm tempted to run out and get speakers for the living room, but since that's my wife's domain, appearance comes before affordability/performance...

WooHoo-count me in as well-thanks to the Target tipster-found it at my local target-asked the pimple faced high school kid to check out back for this product # and paced around for what seemed like an eternity. few minutes later he comes out with it and says"what the heck is this anyway?" He had never even heard of Hddvd before and didn't know it even existed.

I went out at lunch today and picked up Batman Begins in Warren Michigan. One store I called first asked what the title was after I told her the number and said "I'm sure we have that" After a short silence I then said no, thats the wrong version. There are a number of versions and gave her the number. She looked it up and said "Oh that makes more sense, its the HD version. We arent putting the HD display out until next week." End of conversation.

So then I drive to the one up the street, walk into the electronics section where someone is working on stock and she enters the number and says they have it in back. She batphones someone in back to chech and then goes in back to get it. About 3 minutes later she hands me the disc.

I was tempted to ask her if they had "The Thing HD DVD" also in back but didnt want to push my luck. Maybe I will stop back after work.

Success after initial rejection. Perseverance pays.

I went out at lunch today and picked up Batman Begins in Warren Michigan. One store I called first asked what the title was after I told her the number and said "I'm sure we have that" After a short silence I then said no, thats the wrong version. There are a number of versions and gave her the number. She looked it up and said "Oh that makes more sense, its the HD version. We arent putting the HD display out until next week." End of conversation.

So then I drive to the one up the street, walk into the electronics section where someone is working on stock and she enters the number and says they have it in back. She batphones someone in back to chech and then goes in back to get it. About 3 minutes later she hands me the disc.

I was tempted to ask her if they had "The Thing HD DVD" also in back but didnt want to push my luck. Maybe I will stop back after work.

Success after initial rejection. Perseverance pays.

If you could get the stock number they sould be able to look it up. I don't think they can look it up just by the name but I could be mistaken.

Two Target stores in my area. The first one I called will not sell unitl 10/10. The second store says he has one in stock and is checking. Will see if he will sell it to me. He comes back to me and says they don't have any on the floor so no sale. At least I know they are carrying HD DVDs.

Two Target stores in my area. The first one I called will not sell unitl 10/10. The second store says he has one in stock and is checking. Will see if he will sell it to me. He comes back to me and says they don't have any on the floor so no sale. At least I know they are carrying HD DVDs.

Im not trying to tell you what to do, but you will have better luck if you just go to the store and ask. I would say 95% of the people who have found it have went to the store to check. That let's you chose who your dope, I mean sales person to ask is going to be. If I were you I would drop by the one that said they had it, but it wasn't on the sales floor. They will go in the back and get it for you if you ask the right person.

I hit another Target today at lunch. She confirmed every store in our area had 1 copy, but couldn't sell it to me because it wasn't on the floor.

I am screwed...this is depressing.

Im not trying to tell you what to do, but you will have better luck if you just go to the store and ask. I would say 95% of the people who have found it have went to the store to check. That let's you chose who your dope, I mean sales person to ask is going to be. If I were you I would drop by the one that said they had it, but it wasn't on the sales floor. They will go in the back and get it for you if you ask the right person.

Well, I was trying to be above board you know. :D Your suggestion seems to be worht a try. I will take it.

Went to Target today and gave the guy in the dept. the code. It said 'no location'. Bummer.

Well, I was trying to be above board you know. :D Your suggestion seems to be worht a try. I will take it.

Desperate times call for desperate measures my friend. ;)

Im not trying to tell you what to do, but you will have better luck if you just go to the store and ask. I would say 95% of the people who have found it have went to the store to check. That let's you chose who your dope, I mean sales person to ask is going to be. If I were you I would drop by the one that said they had it, but it wasn't on the sales floor. They will go in the back and get it for you if you ask the right person.

I agree with this - and I also think it helps to visit the store earlier in the day when they're less busy. I went during lunch and there were a lot of people stocking. Avoid the manager types and ask one of the stockers.

Maybe we should make a sticky thread for "Target DCPI #'s" :)

DE

My local store said they couldn't sell them until the display goes up on the 8th.

just picked one up in south jersey at lunch. I gave the girl the #, she asked how many i wanted, then went in the back and returned with it. thanks for the heads up!

Hopefully Warner's reps will start sending out the review copies soon....

Hopefully Warner's reps will start sending out the review copies soon....

You know you got lucky when you get a copy before the reviewer get theirs. :D

WOW, Just watched it..

The DTHD really shines thru.

Too many scenes in the dark, I'm not going to give the PQ 5 *'s. just 4.5 :)

It was my first time also seeing Batman Begins I give the plot 5 *'s..

I batted .500. The first store (by my house) wouldn't look in the back. The second (by my lunch restaurant) came out after a while from the back with "Here you go... our only copy."

Geez. Looking for reviews of Batman Begins and I get purchasing questions. Maybe another thread should be started and the topic can be limited to reviews to clean this up.

Thanks everyone who supplied the stock numbers. After trying 3 targets today I finally found one that sold me both Batman Begins and Polar Express.

The guy I spoke to on the phone said "yes I have it in my hand right now" I asked could he put it on hold and he said "sure".

When I got to the store I got greedy and gave a random red shirt the Polar Express number and he went to the back and got it. I had a big grin on my face when he walked out with the movie. He then asked me if I he can see the movie I had in my hands. (BB) I handed it to him and he said he had to check if he can sell these since the release date is 10/8. I said to myself DAMN!.

Then some younger fellow passed by and asked me if I was the one who called for the movies and I said yes. Then the guy that was checking the dates said he was going to see if he can sell them. The younger guy told him that it was ok to sell them even if the release date was 10/08 since they were both old movies that had been released on DVD already.

The older guy then handed me both movies and said "Well Here ya go" SCORE!!! :D

Thanks again!

I am going to watch it tonight and edit this post with a review attached so we can stay on topic. =)

No problems here, walked in and asked the young guy behind the counter in the Electronics department. Walked out 15 minutes later with what he said were the only copies of both Batman Begins & Polar Express they had in stock.

Sweet deal and to keep the post on track somewhat I will post a review tomorrow.

I look forward to picking this one up. It's been on my must-have list since launch.

First store I called said they didn't have any in stock. At least that's what it sounded like she was saying. She mentioned the release date was 10/10, so it could be she just didn't wanna sell it to me.

But the second one had one copy and agreed to hold it for me. Less than an hour later I dropped by there to pick it up. No hassles. :)

No problems here. Walked in and gave the guy the number. He looked it up and said yes we have it in the back. He went to the back and 5 minutes later, I was leaving the store with the movie. Thanks to the individual who gave the information, much appreciated.

Damn, im itching to go and buy this, but I dont even have an hdtv right now! I just sold my old one to my brotherinlaw and my new one will be here this weekend.

I guess ill just wait for the amazon shipment since its a tad cheaper anyways.

I live in So. Cal and I've called about 9 stores no one has it yet. It doesn't surprise me because the studios are so close by I think they know that they can ship them closer to the street date. Someone just told me they do have some HD-DVD titles but they aren't going to "set" them until Oct. 9th. Weird? If anyone finds these titles (BB or PE) PM me or post to this thread.

Thanks,
DD

Well... found three local tagets with two copies each...but still not able to get one. It came close, but when one guy took the movie out, I gues floor manager/supervisor saw it and said it wasn't for sale until the 8th..... so close but still dont have it yet..... I'll go by later tonight and try it again with next shift....

Thanks for the confirmation and for what sounds like a great job with BB. Cant wait to see it.

Are you able to tell us if WB have any desire to go 20-24bit TrueHD in the future?

Investigations still on-going. I'm pushing only for 20-bit in Lossless as it's a significant difference over the 24-bit, but the 24-bit isn't as big of a quality jump from 20-bit, imo. Weird. DD+, though, can go to 24-bit with my blessing. That'll be 2 24-bit tracks at CBR 1.5Mbits (That sound great, btw) versus a single 16-bit lossess at about 3Mbits PBR. Which would you rather have?

Cjplay.

Hey Brandon what Target was that? I've called the one on Colonial near downtown and the one at Waterford and both told me they didn't have it.

-Sean

yee ha got B/B and Polar from Copiague Target on Long Island only had 1 copy of each.

Investigations still on-going. I'm pushing only for 20-bit in Lossless as it's a significant difference over the 24-bit, but the 24-bit isn't as big of a quality jump from 20-bit, imo. Weird. DD+, though, can go to 24-bit with my blessing. That'll be 2 24-bit tracks at CBR 1.5Mbits (That sound great, btw) versus a single 16-bit lossess at about 3Mbits PBR. Which would you rather have?

Cjplay.

I would rather have 20bit/48khz lossless, thank you for asking ;) . But I would certainly take DD+ @ 24bit/48khz, 1.5Mbit/s over "True"HD @ 16bit/48khz any day of the week. Why oh why does Warner stick to DD+ @ 640kbit/s?

holy scam batman. 6 Targets later I picked it up. tried to get other titles but they could not find anything without the number. if anyone has any other numbers please post them. off to watch the dark knight. thanks avs

haha, scored one on my first try. thanks, avs!

Found a helpful clerk in electronics at my local Target; he checked in the stockroom and located not only Batman Begins but also The Fast And The Furious (original, not Tokyo) along with Cinderella Man (no Polar Express). $19.95 each; bought BB and TFATF.

Thanks to AVS and my local, friendly Target... :D

SCORE!!! Just got back with it :) Thanks to the OP as I'm about to watch it now...

No Batman Begins, but I did score The Polar Express....

wow talk about massive success. hd-dvd ninjas lol. my skills must not be as good as my fellow avsers.

Thanks to the OP. Got both at one of my local targets. 3 did not have them and the 4th had 5 copies.
No problems. Just popped these in for a quick peek.....Oh what a treat!

Therese

The only problem with that is Target is only getting 1 copy of these titles. Once a person buys it they are sold out. I'm not sure about other areas around the country, but there isn't a whole lot of Targets around my area.


MY Target had at least 3 copies of BB and PE (now they have at least 2 :) so not every store is only getting one copy. They told me they got 5 of each but I only actually saw 3 (the 2 guys both brought out a double armload of discs for me to check thru)

bleh

please start a new thread for batman reviews... sick of reading OffT posts here

Yes, I think it would be a good idea to have a thread for "BB reviews" and a separate thread for discussion of disc hunting, etc...

Really looking forward to getting this HD DVD!

5 calls to Target, 15 miles later, Batman Begins is mine!

If you're in St. Louis and are looking for it at target there's one less now heh.

I'd like to thank Sdlehman! and AVS Forums of course.

Ah the beauty that is HiDef video + Batman :D

So a bazillion people scored the disc. That is great. Anyone want to actually write something about it? I was hoping to read something in this thread about the quality of the release. And not just "it is awesome!". After skimming 3 pages and not one review, I gave up.

Anyone have any good comments on specifics about the sound or picture?

Got the disk today at Wal-Mart in Gatineau.

So a bazillion people scored the disc. That is great. Anyone want to actually write something about it? I was hoping to read something in this thread about the quality of the release. And not just "it is awesome!". After skimming 3 pages and not one review, I gave up.

Anyone have any good comments on specifics about the sound or picture?


Give it some time- these AVS ninjas barely got their disks. Hope all of you that snagged BB will spend time t write critical reviews, and please post a synopsis of your setup and display type.

So hostile :( ...
Not at all. A little bitter, maybe... :D


I tell you what since I have watched it a couple times already I will mail it out to you asap as long as you cover my investment of $20 and the shipping (whatever shipping method you desire) . Keep in mind this disc was brand new with some very slight light scratches but it plays flawless (not a single glitch) . I can always buy another one when it comes out on the 10th and besides I feel lucky to have been able to see it already .

PM me if your interested .

Just trying to help out a fellow AVS'er :D

----- Jason
I appreciate the offer, but I can wait it out. I'd hate to be the reason a fellow movie lover was deprived of the newest reference title, even for a few days. Seriously, thanks for the offer.

Now on the tenth, I'll be knocking over old ladies (and their walkers) to make sure I get a copy. I'm all about breaking a hip or two for the cause. I may have to take a sick day for this one...

Just finished Batman Begins. It's spectacular and my new demo disc :) The PQ and True HD are just excellent and this is the benchmark for hd dvd now imo. I checked a few minutes of the IME and it looks very entertaining. I'll have to watch that entirely lately. Also, the trailer is in HD. You guys are in for a treat when it comes out next week!

Thank you AVS members. I was able to pick it up at the first Target I visited. I am anxious to watch this movie tonight.

AFTER 4 target calls, I am now a "lucky" owner of BB. Thanks guys. I didnt even find out about PE until I actually read through this thread. Time to make some more calls. :)

PE worth buying?

Also, the trailer is in HD.

I hope this trend continues. Superman Returns had some great HD trailers.

AFTER 4 target calls, I am now a "lucky" owner of BB. Thanks guys. I didnt even find out about PE until I actually read through this thread. Time to make some more calls. :)

PE worth buying?

According to Alan PE is reference but he finds BB more lackluster.

So a bazillion people scored the disc. That is great. Anyone want to actually write something about it? I was hoping to read something in this thread about the quality of the release. And not just "it is awesome!". After skimming 3 pages and not one review, I gave up.

Anyone have any good comments on specifics about the sound or picture?

I'll just copy and paste what I posted in the HTF thread:

"As for the HD-DVD, it stuttered a few times during the movie, including at the very beginning when young Bruce is getting swarmed by the bats in the cave. I'm not sure if this is due to the Dolby TrueHD track since it's the first disc I own with that type of audio. Also, the gunshots seemed a lot quieter than in every other presentation of the film I've seen.

Ok, with the minor nitpicks out of the way, now I can comment on the positives. The transfer put the SD-DVD to shame. Wait til you see Batman in his suit for the first time. The blacks on this disc blew me away. And the early scenes in Iceland were also impressive.

I thought T3's crane chase would be my new demo piece, but that lasted all of 6 days. :) The Batmobile chase in Dolby TrueHD raised the bar another notch or two. I'm almost afraid to play it again out of fear of pissing off the neighbors.

The only real disappointment(aside from the skipping which could become a non-issue with the next firmware upgrade) is the IME feature. I sampled a few minutes of it, but there are a lot of gaps. And most of the footage shown looked like it was taken from the featurettes on the 2-disc SD-DVD(and which are included on this version). Oh well, maybe with the inevitable double-dip, Chris Nolan will finally have more to say."

Just got done watching it, this is my new reference HD DVD! The rooftop chase sounded incredible in TrueHD, I thought my living room walls were gonna blow out! This is why I picked up my HD-A1 in May:)

"As for the HD-DVD, it stuttered a few times during the movie, including at the very beginning when young Bruce is getting swarmed by the bats in the cave. I'm not sure if this is due to the Dolby TrueHD track since it's the first disc I own with that type of audio.
Anyone else having skipping issues? End of Days does that to many people WHEN THE TRUEHD is enabled, myself included. I hope this isn't going to be a problem on BB.

Though no one reports this happening on older titles with TrueHD, so maybe their doing something new in the encoding that the Tosh is having trouble with, and can be addressed in the next FW upgrade.

I just finished watching it and I have to say that the sound was incredible.The picture was sweet but the sound on my butt kickers was awesome.This movie is sure to help you show off your system.Tomorrow I will be watching the Polar Express.Thanks guys for letting me know that Target had it early

I was also able to pick up a copy from Target today, in Vancouver WA. They had one copy in stock, and they held it for me until after work. Just finished watching the film, great transfer and the sound was awesome! You can hear the TrueHD quality, especially in the soundtrack.

I have watched this twice now with TrueHD selected and have had zero skips.

No stuttering in True Hd here...

No "good comments" it is awesome!

Insulting fellow forum members may not reap the feedback that you so desire.

So a bazillion people scored the disc. That is great. Anyone want to actually write something about it? I was hoping to read something in this thread about the quality of the release. And not just "it is awesome!". After skimming 3 pages and not one review, I gave up.

Anyone have any good comments on specifics about the sound or picture?

So a bazillion people scored the disc. That is great. Anyone want to actually write something about it? I was hoping to read something in this thread about the quality of the release. And not just "it is awesome!". After skimming 3 pages and not one review, I gave up.

Anyone have any good comments on specifics about the sound or picture?

I gave a quick review on it yesterday. It should be on page 1. I'll make it simple for you. Get this disc ASAP. It is reference quality in every regard except with the IME which is very spread out. I saw no problems with the picture quality and I think it is the best picture I have seen yet on HD DVD. There is not much you can say about the TrueHD track. You have to hear it yourself and I promise you that you will be blown away.

So a bazillion people scored the disc. That is great. Anyone want to actually write something about it? I was hoping to read something in this thread about the quality of the release. And not just "it is awesome!". After skimming 3 pages and not one review, I gave up.

Anyone have any good comments on specifics about the sound or picture?
The very first post in this thread has a nice quick, short review (thoughts) of this disc. And I'm sure everyone who's picked it up, including myself would mirror those same thoughts. Great Black, Great Shadow Detail, Accurate Colors and an Amazing Soundtrack.


First Post:
Thanks to another forum member for providing me with the DCPI number for this, I was able to pick this up at Target ( love Target ).

First let me preface by saying I am a firm believer in to each his own when it comes to reviews so this is just my take on spreading the word on this disc. In case any questions on it, I am running a ISF'ed Sony CRT RPTV with sound provided by an HK running 7.1 JBL and Velo sub. I used the True HD track with the back channles matrixed for 7.1 analog with a splitter.

I know that we have been paitently waiting for this title since first glimpsing it on the demo and advert materials for our new players and I will firmly state that it was WORTH the wait. This disc is why I bought into this new format. I own most of the titles and the ones I do not I have netflixed so I have seen em all and hands down this will be what i use to show what this format can do.

the picture: simply superb, the color the blacks the subtle, very subtle, film grain that reminds you this is a film, everything about this transfer was what I hoped for.

the sound: the true HD track smokes all others, this is the best soundtrack presentation I have heard in my home

Scenes: The scence with Bale and Neeson on the ice and of course the bat mobile chase are now my showoff clips, and I mean SHOW OFF....

I have yet to delve into the features but I am looking forward to it, I am not going to deny that I am also a HUGE fan of this film and this certainly can color my opinion on "reviewing" it but being a fan truely set my expectations higher and they indeed where met.

Warners did an outstanding job on this disc......

Echo.

I would write a review but I'm too busy watching the movie repeatedly. :D

Holly Batman, what an incredible display of colors and clarity. At times I felt like I was in the movie. Can only say that this is by far, the best HD-DVD I own, and I have about 20 already. If you have not seen it, it is worth full price as a blind buy.

Ian B

So those lucky people who watched it and say PQ is great. Does it beat Chronicles of Riddick for the reference title, PQ wise? Adding in Dolby TrueHD certainly adds appeal.

To note, I have no stuttering on BB with DolbyTrueHD.

As for the disc, I've commented on the PQ/AQ, and the short of it is: This is the new reference disc. I've heard rumblings that Kong will beat it out, but I'll believe it when I see it. This is the reason to own an HD DVD player.

My observations thus far only watching clips. Waiting for friends this weekend to do the first full roll through. :o

For now here are my thoughts and examples.

1) Incredible detail, reminds me again and again why I love HD-DVD :D

Batmobile in desert camo introduction scene

You can see small bits of dirt and gravel fly around on what (on the SD-DVD) looked like it was a completely clean floor smooth floor. But it is scarred and scratched just like an inline skating rink floor. The detail that you can see in the floor even with the speed the floor is running by the Batmobile and the camera is great (Hey some of us notice silly things like dirt on the floor, where's the BatmoDyson?). Also the interface controls of the batmobile stand out clearly. Switches and toggles etc. are sharply defined. The cockpit detail is even more evident in the batmobile chase scene later).

2) Dolby TrueHD soundtrack :)

The Batmobile chase scene through Gotham (also viewable on the HD-DVD demo disk in stores) In the store this scene looked fantastic and was one of the things that convinced me to go with HD-DVD. Adding the full theatre audio experience from Dolby TrueHD made every skid and thump/bump/scrape/plow through a live experience.

Also in particular the Frozen ice sword/gauntlet training scene had wonderful ice shifting/fracturing sounds. The sword on sword rings were sooooo clear.

The movie did a phenomenal job of filling the basement theatre.

3) Unfortunately the IME was disappointing overall but did add some nice bits. I just don't have the time to sit through and watch it all over again with IME on. I'm annoyed that I can't just toggle IME on/off. When I turn it on it restarts the film. Then if I hit the menu button it dumps me back into normal play? Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

4) really wish the extras from the SD-DVD were redone or reincluded in HD. :confused:

5) Rerolled the SD-DVD just for kicks. Boy was I ever sorry I did (ugh SD ugh). Where before I only sometimes noticed some minor defects like a bit of shimmer and motion stretching and fast action sequences or clothing patterns, now I really notice them :( .

Sounds of sword on sword = plink plink compared to KWATHANG! I think I'll be giving my brother a lot of free DVD's the next time I visit him.

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Compared watching on front projector Sanyo PLC-XU50A (more of a gaming projector) and LCD screen Westinghouse LVM-37W1 at the same time (again more of a gaming LCD).

HD-A1 firmware 2.0, set to 1080i with true-black off, using HDMI output with Dolby TrueHD soundtrack using analog out plugs to a 7.1 Creative Gigaworks S750 set (matrixing off, so just the straight 5.1 Dolby TrueHD with no upmix to 7.1).

Used gefen 4x2 switcher which clones HDMI input signal to two outputs. The Sanyo projector had better color but the Westy LCD had hands down better detail (1080P LCD).

If it rocks this much on this mid-range setup, I can only imagine how awesome it'd be on a real 1080P projector like a Pearl/Ruby or one of the newer 1080P projectors (I'm seriously looking into a Mitsubishi HC5000 or Panasonic AE1000U after watching Batman Begins) along with a real HT Audio setup (must win lottery).

Gotta wait for the weekend showing now sigh... Instead gonna watched Grand Prix tonight, another great HD-DVD.

I've not compared this to Riddick, it's still unopened on my shelf. But compared to my other HD-DVD's Aeon Flux, Apollo 13, Unforgiven, Sahara, Last Samurai, Cinderella Man, Serenity and a dozen+ others, hmmmm....

I'd now rerank my top 7 demo reels from best to still damn good.

Batman Begins, Sahara, Serenity, Aeon Flux, Unforgiven, Apollo 13, Last Samurai

For those disappointed in the gaps on the IME:

You can click the left and right directional buttons on your remote to go to the next or previous IME entry. You do not need to watch the whole movie and wait for the next IME segment. I noticed this because the T3 disc had little arrows next to the disc icon, but it works for BB, which has no arrow symbols.

Thanks for the great tip. Another great reason to revisit the movie once again, though I think I've lost count since yesterday.

Batman Begin finally show up on BestBuy.com as $24.99.

Guess that will be their in store price too.

Price match time for those who miss out on BB at Target.

I doubt that Target will have any copy left by the 10th.

I doubt that Target will have any copy left by the 10th.

You could be right :D

Just to chime in, wow, what a disk! I really appreciate the info in this thread, otherwise I'd still be waiting...

bleh

please start a new thread for batman reviews... sick of reading OffT posts here

Says the man posting in the BB Begins Review thread.

AVSForum, have I told you lately that I love you? I about wet myself when the girl came out from the back with my copy of Batman Begins. I feel like that guy that just won a giant check from Publishers Clearing House, "People really win on AVS Forum!" :cool:

But you guys are getting a little too excited about the PQ. It's Tier 2 every step of the way. Not bad, but not on par with the better transfers. Don't get me wrong, I'm pleased as punch and truthfully I don't think it could have been much better considering how dark this film is. It's a great HD DVD with great extras and it looks and sounds great. Nothing to complain about, that's for sure. Is it the new reference disc? Not a chance.

AVSForum, have I told you lately that I love you? I about wet myself when the girl came out from the back with my copy of Batman Begins. I feel like that guy that just won a giant check from Publishers Clearing House, "People really win on AVS Forum!" :cool:

But you guys are getting a little too excited about the PQ. It's Tier 2 every step of the way. Not bad, but not on par with the better transfers. Don't get me wrong, I'm pleased as punch and truthfully I don't think it could have been much better considering how dark this film is. It's a great HD DVD with great extras and it looks and sounds great. Nothing to complain about, that's for sure. Is it the new reference disc? Not a chance.

What did you find lacking on the picture quality?

What did you find lacking on the picture quality?

Depth and detail. Admittedly that's difficult with such a dark film, but even the glacier shots felt a bit flat.

I had skipping on Training Day with TrueHD enabled. Will try it with DD+ and see the differenced. Also got a little skipping on POTO which is the only other TrueHD I've tried. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

I also thought the glacier shots looked a bit flat but still looked great - they just lacked the 3d look that i was anticipating after reading the reviews. Overall the picture quality was incredible. The dark scenes still had alot of detail, and I think this is what impressed me most about the quality of this release. I dont think I have seen such shadow detail on my Panny 900. The cityscape scenes were amazing.

Got my copy from Target in Burlington, NC. Even called ahead and they put in in the 24 hour hold drawer for me. What service.
The picture and sound are amazing. The Dolby TruHD track really put a workout on my subs. Very lively surrounds as well. Very vivid, sharp, and accurate picture as well.

Is the grain/noise gone in the film? The scene at the beginning when Neeson first introduces himself to Wayne in the jail is LITTERED with noise in the DVD... is it still there in the HD-DVD? This was always the part of the DVD I hated the most, it drove me nuts.

Details, details, we want details!!!

How's the TrueHD?

How's the IME (is it also called U-Control)?

How's the PQ with all the action and dark scenes?

[/little kid who's had too much sugar jumping up and down] :eek:

Um, excuse me, don't you have some biscuits to make (he,he). I joke like that with the wife all the time.

I just scored a copy at my local Target. I gave the person in the dept the code and he said they had it in stock. He went in the back and came out with what he said was the last copy. I will throw this in the player as soon as I can run the wife off the TV.

Quoted the wrong thread.

Quoted the wrong thread.

Do what?

Is the grain/noise gone in the film? The scene at the beginning when Neeson first introduces himself to Wayne in the jail is LITTERED with noise in the DVD... is it still there in the HD-DVD? This was always the part of the DVD I hated the most, it drove me nuts.
Hey Slider33,

Funny that you mention this, because that scene always drove me nuts as well. The scene is still kind of dirty on the HD DVD (sorry). However, it is an exponential step up over the DVD. The scene appears to be quite grainy in comparison to the rest of the film. I'm not sure why.

Overall the movie looks fantastic. Like every HD DVD I've seen up to this point, it has some spectacular scenes and some good scenes. I think the panning scenes over the glaciers look good (they looked atrocious on DVD). I think basically every scene in Gotham looks spectacular. The True HD sounds good. I compared it with the Dolby track and it sounds a bit warmer to my ears.

The shadow detail is outstanding during the whole movie. The movie is vibrant and alive. The DVD lacked this vibrancy and often it appeared that the only detail was in well-lit scenes. Considering that the bulk of this film contains dark scenes, the HD DVD presentation of this film brings life to what was a lifeless DVD presentation IMO.

I'm viewing on an ISF'd 60" SXRD XBR1, for reference.

I doubt that Target will have any copy left by the 10th.
Yep. I got the last one at my local Target.

Looks like Best Buy is going back to their old pricing.

Sounds like this one release has already outsold the entire bluray portfolio. :p

Just picked up both movies (BB & PE) - yes!!! Now I have to hold back the temptation to watch them until I can get the whole family in front of the TV. I love HD-DVD.

Hey Slider33,

Funny that you mention this, because that scene always drove me nuts as well. The scene is still kind of dirty on the HD DVD (sorry). However, it is an exponential step up over the DVD. The scene appears to be quite grainy in comparison to the rest of the film. I'm not sure why.

Overall the movie looks fantastic. Like every HD DVD I've seen up to this point, it has some spectacular scenes and some good scenes. I think the panning scenes over the glaciers look good (they looked atrocious on DVD). I think basically every scene in Gotham looks spectacular. The True HD sounds good. I compared it with the Dolby track and it sounds a bit warmer to my ears.

The shadow detail is outstanding during the whole movie. The movie is vibrant and alive. The DVD lacked this vibrancy and often it appeared that the only detail was in well-lit scenes. Considering that the bulk of this film contains dark scenes, the HD DVD presentation of this film brings life to what was a lifeless DVD presentation IMO.

I'm viewing on an ISF'd 60" SXRD XBR1, for reference.

Thanks a lot for the feedback. If it's a step up from the DVD, I can't be unhappy with that. Can't wait to see it.

Depth and detail. Admittedly that's difficult with such a dark film, but even the glacier shots felt a bit flat.
Dark films have endless depth if your display is not contrast challenged (and all are except SED and CRT).

Yep. I got the last one at my local Target.



LOL "last" one? They probably only HAD one. The Target in Layton, Utah only had one but they refused to sell it to me because of the release date. Nice luck.

Dark films have endless depth if your display is not contrast challenged (and all are except SED and CRT).

Good thing I've got CRT then.

I picked up Batman Begins at Target in Ventura, CA. Simply called, gave them the DCPI# and the girl put it on hold for me. Super easy.

I finished watching BB earlier this afternoon after picking it up at Target. Here is my "quickie" review:

Let's start with the sound. For all the praises I've read about the TrueHD audio on this title, I wasn't quite as impressed as I expected to be. Perhaps it was all the hype that made my expectations too high? Don't get me wrong, it's a great audio track but it didn't really stand out as a cut above other DD+ titles I have viewed. And while the dialogue was clear and the soundtrack was emotionally moving, the soundstage did not seem as enveloping as I had hoped. The surrounds did not get quite the workout that I had anticipated. Again, it was very good and I didn't compare the TrueHD to the DD+ track yet to see what difference there may be in that regard.

The picture quality, on the other hand, was all that I had hoped it would be! With the vast majority of shots in BB taken in very dark conditions, this simply could have been a muddy mess. But it was not. Shadow detail was superb, there was very little noise, and the shots of the cityscape, in particular, really stood out as reference quality IMO.

I greatly enjoyed watching this film on HD-DVD. I took a quick peak at the In-Movie feature and it looks very interesting, so I'll probably tackle that later tonight. Despite being a bit underwhelmed on the audio side, I would definitely put this one in the Tier 1 category and it would make a great demo/reference disc.

Depth and detail. Admittedly that's difficult with such a dark film, but even the glacier shots felt a bit flat.

I felt the glacier shots looked so real i could touch them, you may want to re-watch that again. The HD DVD blows away the SD, the SD was very grainy and 2d looking in darker shots.

So Tar-zshay is the new hotness(?) :D Whou woulda' thunk....

Sounds like this one release has already outsold the entire bluray portfolio. :p


LOL! I bet thats not far from the truth :D

Got the single copy at the El Cerrito target (Albany store said they didn't have it).

can't wait to check it out on the big screen tonight...

I <3 the internet!

How can you not think that the glacier scene is amazing? No artifacts or EE, detail/color/clarity is amazing. Definately reference and amazing demo material of what HD-DVD can do.

John

Ok, I watched BB tonight and at first I wasn't that impressed but like some other HD-DVDs the PQ just seemed to get better and better as the movie went on (don't ask, I don't know why). All in all this does deserve to be in tier 1 of HD-DVD releases. While the PQ was great, with no artifacts, it isn't the best I have seen; but don't get me wrong, this movie handles blacks and night time scenes like no other HD-DVD I have seen. I saw ZERO grain in this movie and I could actually make out details in the dark scenes.

Now, the sound on this thing is ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. The bass startled me on several occasions, and the rears stayed active. So all in all, with the mind blowing sound and great picture, this is truly a demo disc. Imma watch Polar Express Thursday night; I know that is going to be amazing also.

The PQ is great. Sure it's not as bright like daytime/outdoors films but it's a dark film, period. I absolutely despise blacks done bad yet this transfer does an amazing job with blacks. The whole movie is simply beautiful. All the scenes look fantastic for what they are.

The sound is ......well...perfect!!! CJ if you're reading this thread, thank you and your team very much for the effort involved!

I managed to snag a copy of Batman Begins at my local Target. I only got a chance to watch a little bit of it, but the PQ was excellent. The shadow detail is truly exceptional and is even more impressive considering the average contrast on my Samsung DLP. I guess the added resolution really helps give more definition in low-light scenes.

I live in an apartment so I'm a little hesitant to crank the audio, but the TrueHD soundtrack was certainly impressive.

Here's a snapshot of one scene I took. It's not the greatest, but is a decent representation of the PQ you get:

http://www.vamsi.net/images/ht/batman_niesen.JPG

The PQ is great. Sure it's not as bright like daytime/outdoors films but it's a dark film, period. I absolutely despise blacks done bad yet this transfer does an amazing job with blacks. The whole movie is simply beautiful. All the scenes look fantastic for what they are.

The sound is ......well...perfect!!! CJ if you're reading this thread, thank you and your team very much for the effort involved!

You better believe I'm reading!!! Thanks to all for the comments, good and "bad". I'll pass on everything I read to those who need to know...

Cjplay.

This was a great disc, Cjplay. Excellent work.

I don't get the people who think this isn't a fantastic transfer - BB is NOT a bright movie. It is dark, filled with contrasts, muddy colors - what Batman should be.

The blacks are perfect, no loss of detail, great contrast, no EE, no artifacts. The glacier scene is really amazing - I had to watch it several times.

Throw in amazing sound --> amazing movie (Kind of like Aeon Flux except with a great plot, storyline, and good acting from the main characters and supporting roles!).

Reference disc all the way.

I wonder if this is the "popular action title" that Amir was refering to when he said it was done at lower bit rates with VC-1.

I wonder if this is the "popular action title" that Amir was refering to when he said it was done at lower bit rates with VC-1.
Depends on which reference you are talking about :). This was indeed the title that I referred to in my long thread on total capacity of HD DVD. I mentioned in that thread that we were getting super quality at around 12 mbit/sec for this type of content.

This is NOT the title however, that we talked about about a month ago regarding advancements in VC-1 encoding. Batman has been in the pipeline for a while so it has not yet benefited from the latest quality enhancements in VC-1 encoder.

Depends on which reference you are talking about :). This was indeed the title that I referred to in my long thread on total capacity of HD DVD. I mentioned in that thread that we were getting super quality at around 12 mbit/sec for this type of content.

This is NOT the title however, that we talked about about a month ago regarding advancements in VC-1 encoding. Batman has been in the pipeline for a while so it has not yet benefited from the latest quality enhancements in VC-1 encoder.

So then, what IS the title?


:D

So then, what IS the title?
You mean the second one? If so, I can't disclose it because the title is not yet released.