View Full Version : THe GUARDIAN...


SbWillie
10-01-06, 02:51 PM
We had a last minute opportunity for a date night so I picked this flick.


PRetty much what I expected:

Decent script,well acted, with some predictable scenes as well as a predictable ending,. Some scenes seemed to heading down the path that kraupy ANNAPOLIS took but surprised me by not!

Nice effects/CG...


LOVED the surround effects, had good LFE expected more though (seat was pretty still anyway).


3/4 stars.


ANyone else?

rockbottom16
10-01-06, 03:35 PM
if kutcher's in it...not watching it pain & simple.

nyg
10-01-06, 08:00 PM
I thought the trailer looked good. Should be a nice demo disc on BD when the time comes for its video release.

thehun
01-24-07, 04:34 AM
DVD is out so I gave it a rent. It is a very good transfer, and very engaging sound.
The movie is a bit better then what I thought at first. It has good acting from both leads, and thanks to Davis[Fugitive] he keeps the action sequences at a believeable level, no bombastic Bruckheimer stuff here.
Worth to give it a rent.

JohnR_IN_LA
02-06-07, 11:26 AM
Even if you like Kevin Costner as an actor ( I love 90% of his stuff )
... and you like Ashton Costner as an actor
... and you like the idea of a Coast Guard Rescue movie

... theres still a pretty good chance you WON'T LIKE THIS MOVIE! :(

"The Guardian" is not a horrible flick, but its really a bunch of cliches tied together by merely competent acting.

Ashton and Kevin dont screw anything up, but they cant save this tired script either.

On the plus side, the "Coast Guard Swimmer" profession may be lifted out of obscurity a bit.

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This movie may keep you awake: there is some action - and some pretty people, but I was highly disappointed that Kevin couldn't save this film.

PLincoln
02-06-07, 11:30 AM
not a great flic, but a good popcron flic. Sure, it was a tad predictable and ran a bit on the long side, but I was entertained for the duration...which is more than I can say for some movies...*cough*cough*Ultraviolet*cough*cough*

thehun
02-06-07, 11:41 AM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=730762

LinusMundane
02-06-07, 11:47 AM
As a former member of the USCG, I can honestly say that based on trailers alone I wasn't jumping out of my seat to see this movie...and I still haven't. Hollywood has a hard time portraying the real USCG as they for some reason feel the need to glamourize it. The Coast Guard is smaller than the NYPD and for that we suffer a lot, if movies like this can bring more attention the the CG then great but as they are, it feels to me that its still just media trying to draw money off of Katrina and the publicity we got from that disaster.

PooperScooper
02-06-07, 12:38 PM
Merged threads. Thanks, Hun. :)

larry

JohnR_IN_LA
02-06-07, 05:22 PM
It still seemed like a real small service Linus ...


Hey do USCG personnel train for combat, at all? This movie basically says they don't.

In the past I have seen a single fixed gun on a USCG ship; when push comes to shove, you guys will guard the coast, right?

Bing
02-06-07, 11:02 PM
it feels to me that its still just media trying to draw money off of Katrina and the publicity we got from that disaster.

The movie actually started filming (in Louisiana, I think) before Katrina hit. Katrina forced the crew to relocate to Shreveport. I too thought it was a cheap cash grab until I learned that.

Not a bad flick. I thought the whole training was quite entertaining.

IrmoGamecoq
02-07-07, 09:06 AM
It would've been a better film had it not stolen so many scenes from "Officer and a Gentleman" and "Top Gun."

We still enjoyed it for the most part, but Costner's almost always a winner in our house.

LinusMundane
02-07-07, 09:29 PM
We are the only branch who do not carry guns(aside from doing boardings or being in a war zone.) The only time I ever carried a side arm was when the President visited our base in Philadelphia. When the guys on boats are out they train on that armament, but the stuff the other branches are trained in, we are not.

r_hill
02-07-07, 11:07 PM
The Guardian was number 6 on Ebert/Roeper's worst 10 movies of 2006 (Running with Scissors was number 1 and Flyboys was number 9, for instance...)

From what I remember of that episode of Ebert and Roeper, the worst movies of the year were usually ridden with cliches.....they also disliked movies with egregious CGI (Flyboys) or movies that were just disgusting instead of suspenseful (The Hills have Eyes)....

NetworkTV
02-08-07, 05:17 PM
Merged threads. Thanks, Hun. :)

larry

What did you call me in public? Oh, wait - you said Hun, not Hon... ;)

At any rate:

- The trailers looked unappealing to me
- The reviews are mostly dismal

As a result, my gut says wait until it comes to a channel I'm already paying for on my TV provider...

SKYWLKR
07-30-07, 11:48 PM
Very TopGunish...

But all in all a decent movie...

I liked it

PooperScooper
07-31-07, 07:31 AM
And Officer-and-a-Gentlemenish.. . Too long. But not a bad movie.

larry

SbWillie
07-31-07, 07:15 PM
Very TopGunish...

But all in all a decent movie...

I liked itmaybe slightly but ripoffs sure were nowhere near as bad as Annapolis...biggest TG ripoff I've EVER Seen for sure! :mad:

thehun
08-01-07, 11:47 AM
Very TopGunish...


Not the execution of it though, which is why I said no bombastic Bruckheimer stuff here. That would surely made this movie unwatchable.

Gary McCoy
08-01-07, 04:26 PM
We are the only branch who do not carry guns(aside from doing boardings or being in a war zone.) The only time I ever carried a side arm was when the President visited our base in Philadelphia. When the guys on boats are out they train on that armament, but the stuff the other branches are trained in, we are not.

I too am a USCG veteran, but from another era when Vietnam was the hot zone. The USCG was then part of the Treasury Department, the Department of Transportation and the Department of Homeland Security (both of which subsequently owned the USCG) were created later. In wartime the USCG came under a joint command structure with the other US Armed Forces.

But make no mistake, the USCG was then and is now an armed force in the defense of this nation. Today's USCG is 3X the size of the one I served in, but when smallboat experience was needed on the landing craft and river patrols of Vietnam, the USCG was deployed there - in fact, because the USCG was so much smaller, a much higher percentage of the USCG saw combat than did those in the Navy/Marines/USAF/Army, who mostly trained and practiced for war rather than fought it. But none of the other services ever had 9% of their total strength in Vietnam as did the USCG.

When I was in the USCG, the Rescue Swimmers did not exist. The older and much larger and less economical helicopters we had then were amphibious, and landed in the ocean and deployed rubber boats - as did USCG amphibious seaplanes such as the famous PBY "Catalina" flying boat.

I'll have to say that although it may be cheaper to fly a non-amphibious aircraft for search-and-rescue operations over the oceans, I don't think it's a real good idea. The former USCG seaplanes had faster speed and much longer range than do today's small helicopters. The relatively large amphibious helicopters used a lot of fuel, but were capable of towing surface vessels back to port, or rescuing 10X the number of people.

But anyways, to address your point - Marines or Army personnel do not walk around under arms in the USA either. Israeli soldiers do go around armed, for good reasons and in different circumstances. I was trained on both the M1 infantry rifle and the original M-16, and the standard .45 auto pistol. I re-qualified every year after bootcamp by shooting at the range, and they kept score. I was an ET in the LORAN-C area, and narrowly escaped "Snake Eater" (jungle warfare) school for deployment in Vietnam, they sent me to Alaska instead. We got to play games with the Navy SEALS who simulated Russians invading and sabatoging our LORAN transmitter (we lost). Incidentally, due to polar bears and wolves we were required to be under arms at all times when outdoors.

Don't doubt for a minute that your profession is the defense of the USA. You may have other missions such as search-and-rescue, port security, or drug interdiction, but defense is still primary. Remember the words to the oath you swore. Semper Paratus.

Gary

PainterPaul
08-01-07, 11:02 PM
My son did 5 years in the USCG after 4 years in the US Army. He, his mother, and I thoroughly enjoyed The Guardian.

Now way Kutcher carried the movie… but for me Kutcher did a remarkably good job even though it took a while to block-out his weenie TV career. I don’t think he learned anything from his weenie wife, either. If he keeps his mouth shut and sticks to acting I may consider future movies. Just one word, though, and he’s in the Shut Up And Sing or the $cientology dustbin.