Has there been any information on the possibility of a VGA cable being released for the PS3? I have looked all over and haven't found any information one way or the other. If there is no official cable, has anyone tried any of the HDMI to VGA adapters and had any luck with them?

There will probably be some third party efforts. I can say that MS did a great job with VGA support. Im hoping Sony can do the same.

I hope you are right. A lot of projector folks are going to want to use a VGA input.

With HD game consoles, VGA is a must. As many people who dont have HD TVS can utilize a monitor for higher resolution. Lack of VGA support would be a grand oversight.

Is it important? Cant you just buy a component to VGA adapter. Or an HDMI to DVI adapter?

simply converting component to VGA would require a transcoder, which is extra equipment and adds another level of video processing that would in theory degrade the picture quality.
from my own observations, (high res pictures showing the 12 pin port), there has been absolutely no indication that the multi a/v port on the ps3 has changed at all compared to the ps2 and even the ps1. this means that it would be an analog out port with stereo audio, a composite signal, separate pins for the s-video signal, and RGB/component sharing the same pins, along with the appropriate grounds and a 5v line.
http://www.gamesx.com/avpinouts/psxav.htm

the ps2 included a vga cable in the linux kit, however, there was no H/V signal so you would need a multisync/ sync on green capable monitor. it also only worked on progressive scan titles.

therefore, the limiting factor for a direct-connect vga cable to the multi-a/v port would be whether or not the ps3 supports resolutions >480p through RGB.

i am very interested in this topic being that my samsung dlp only accepts 1080p threw its VGA port. quick question, if song happens not to release this type of cable is it possible any other way to hook up a ps3 threw my vga port to get a "true" 1080p picture?

i am very interested in this topic being that my samsung dlp only accepts 1080p threw its VGA port. quick question, if song happens not to release this type of cable is it possible any other way to hook up a ps3 threw my vga port to get a "true" 1080p picture?

anyone??

Has anyone ever found a vga cable for the PS 3?

i am very interested in this topic being that my samsung dlp only accepts 1080p threw its VGA port. quick question, if song happens not to release this type of cable is it possible any other way to hook up a ps3 threw my vga port to get a "true" 1080p picture?

Which Samsung do you have? I thought all of their DLPs accepted 1080p though all inputs.

Hello,

Not sure if anyone already posted this but here's a great product that I have used in the past and it will work for all your gaming consoles.

Look up X2VGA by Neoya.

Thanks,
vicjaw

simply converting component to VGA would require a transcoder, which is extra equipment and adds another level of video processing that would in theory degrade the picture quality.
from my own observations, (high res pictures showing the 12 pin port), there has been absolutely no indication that the multi a/v port on the ps3 has changed at all compared to the ps2 and even the ps1. this means that it would be an analog out port with stereo audio, a composite signal, separate pins for the s-video signal, and RGB/component sharing the same pins, along with the appropriate grounds and a 5v line.
http://www.gamesx.com/avpinouts/psxav.htm

the ps2 included a vga cable in the linux kit, however, there was no H/V signal so you would need a multisync/ sync on green capable monitor. it also only worked on progressive scan titles.

therefore, the limiting factor for a direct-connect vga cable to the multi-a/v port would be whether or not the ps3 supports resolutions >480p through RGB.

I have try vga/component adapter, I only see Green and Red on non hdcp lcd (hp pavilion f50)and monitor(p260 ibm), but it worked fine for infocus x1.

The best solution for analog is (connecting non-hdcp monitor)
http://www.x2vga.com/product

The best solution for digital is (connecting non-hdcp monitor)
hdfury.com

so far into my research.

Forgive me if I am wrong here, but won't a simple VGA to Component adapter work? I bought one from monoprice for <$6 for my Infocus X1.

Forgive me if I am wrong here, but won't a simple VGA to Component adapter work? I bought one from monoprice for <$6 for my Infocus X1.


Chris,

This mma again, it did worked for my infocus x1, but for some reason, I couldn't get it to work < simple VGA to Component adapter> for a crt or lcd non-hdcp monitor.

I checked the vga/component adapter, IT HAS 14 PINS, (should be 15, I got that from infocus) ? could that be the reason, I see you got from monoprice, you got 15 PINS?

Just counted the pins on my monoprice adapter. Yes it has 15 pins. I've only used it on my X1. I'm going HDMI w/my LCD.

Just counted the pins on my monoprice adapter. Yes it has 15 pins. I've only used it on my X1. I'm going HDMI w/my LCD.

Is your lcd non hdcp? if it is , and if you have time and not too much trouble, can you try hook it up.

Thx

Well I guess you learn something new everyday.

I hooked up my MONOPRICE 15-pin VGA to Component adapter to my 37" Olevia LT37HVS (2 years old) and I'm assuming it's non-HDCP compliant, but I'm not sure.

Long story short: It did not work. Sorry guys. Works on my X1, not on my LCD. Well shiiiiiat.

Well I guess you learn something new everyday.

I hooked up my MONOPRICE 15-pin VGA to Component adapter to my 37" Olevia LT37HVS (2 years old) and I'm assuming it's non-HDCP compliant, but I'm not sure.

Long story short: It did not work. Sorry guys. Works on my X1, not on my LCD. Well shiiiiiat.
It's cool, thank for hooking it up, we are all learning.

I think here is the reason,

http://gear.ign.com/articles/772/772572p1.html

"The biggest issue is the fact that you may run into compatibility issues relating to whether or not your display is capable of showing YPbPr signals via VGA rather than the usual RGB (15-pin VGA). "

My p260 ibm monitor only has RGB, menu and not YPbPr.
So I guess X1 has YPbPr.

The only way it seems to get the picture is via Transcoder like Neoya http://www.x2vga.com/

or PS3 VGA from Sony or 3rd Party.

or this one, YPbPr to RGBHV VGA Box (not very good review)
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-11z-49-en-70-1d2s.html

At least I still have my X1

Have a nice day!

Any updates in the world of VGA cables for the PS3? :confused:

I doubt if we will ever see a PS3 VGA cable. I believe that would require a software update to allow the PS3 to output VGA levels, and it seems to me with Sony's big push of DRM that would be of conflicting interest for them. It would allow BR movies to be output at 1080p over a non HDCP connection.

the highest quality video would probably be an HDMI to DVI cable, and then a DVI to VGA adapter.

HDMI doesn't carry analog signal. The DVI-VGA adpater works for a computer video card because the DVI port on the video card includes analog VGA signal (see DVI-I).

Whatever adapters you chain up to make it connect from HDMI to VGA, it won't work. The analog signal is just not there.

Component-VGA adapter will work only if your display supports YPbPr on VGA input. Most front projectors support that input. It has nothing to do with HDCP. HDCP is digital only.

Also. 1080p output on PS3 can only happen on HDMI port.

I had xcm 1080p vga, from play-asia. Best one out there.

Has there been any information on the possibility of a VGA cable being released for the PS3? I have looked all over and haven't found any information one way or the other. If there is no official cable, has anyone tried any of the HDMI to VGA adapters and had any luck with them?

Okay, you can kinda do it today. Kind of, being important. VGA and component are essentially the same thing, VGA has more things going on than component (H+V sync, for example). Meaning, if you have VGA out, you can splice the signal into component. These adapters are pretty cheap (less than $20), but are not bidirectional. Meaning if you have component that is headed for a VGA destination, the monitor won't have enough info to display the signal (in most cases, there are exceptions, from what I understand 16 pin VGA can be done with a simple cord from component). Transcoders (same price as a low end DVI monitor) will clear up a signal problems for the monitor and show it on the screen at whatever resolution the monitor supports.

Now, one of the biggest differences between the 360 and the PS3 is that the 360 has a scaler chip for the graphic output. It can crop, resize, upscale and what not on the fly . The 360 has an easy time of things figuring out what's going on with the final output. Which means, a 360 can take a widescreen output and make it 4:3 output and keep it HD, all without losing things like the radar in Halo (which is on the side of the screen). PS3 has no such luxury, hence the issue people have with 720p games that don't upscale to 1080p with their old HD sets that don't support 720p, so the PS3 defaults to 480p on those games.

That's probably exactly why there's no Sony made VGA cable, they could easily make the cable and do a simple OS update that sends the extra VGA info over it, but it's only going to send exactly what the component would send, no upscaling for you. If your monitor doesn't have 704x480, 1024x720 or 1920x1080, you will see nothing, since those are only outputs for HD on the PS3.

I found something that might work, its a VGA cable for a Wii/PS3. I don't know how well it will work, I have to make 3 posts before I can insert a URL though.

I'm thinking about buying it and tryin it out, but I'm leery because there are no reviews.

I'll let you guys know after I try it out.

http://www.gameyeeeah.com/wii-ps3-vga-cable-p-746.html

Buy a HDFURY it will solve all your ps3 vga problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJLh7ypXhjI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpVwZv7kDMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjVLHYs2UC8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj-zvK9HlpU

http://www.consoleshop.com/product.php?productid=16848

i know its expensive but well worth it

http://www.hdfury.net/

K, I'm seeing two viable options for connecting my PS3 to a Viewsonic PJ557d XGA DLP:

1) PS3 component cable + component-VGA adapter
$10-$30


2) HDMI-DVI cable + HDFury (HDFury2 is a little out of my price range)
$80+

My Viewsonic PJ557d supports YPbPr. It maxes at 1080i/720p, so I don't really need to use the hdmi port on the PS3 (to get 1080p). I'm trying to find the best option to display 1080i/720p.

My question is, would it be worth going digital, then using a transcoder(HDFury) to convert to analogue? Wouldn't going analogue all the way avoid the possible performance/quality cost of converting digital to analogue? But then on the other hand, would I lose any quality over a 10ft analogue component cable?

I'm leaning towards option #1. Let me know if you think option #2 is worth while. What kind of display quality/response difference (if any) might I expect...

I don't know much about this, but from what I've read, the HDFury does not convert the signal to analog, it keeps it in HD, that's why it's more expensive.

You will get a true HD picture with the HDfury.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011402&p_id=4559&seq=1&format=2

The vga port is an analogue port, though, so that is what the HDFury is there for - convert HD digital to a HD analogue. It's still HD.

The rca component output in option #1 is also HD, but carried over an analog signal.

But does it convert it to RGB?

HDfury receives HDMI resolutions such as 720p (1280x720) and 1080p (1920x1080) and outputs them without changing anything in RGB format. Therefore, your displays VGA input must be able to support a 1280x720 resolution for 720p and 1920x1080 for 1080p. If it does not specifically support those resolutions, then it may not be able to render the picture.

yes...

K, I'm seeing two viable options for connecting my PS3 to a Viewsonic PJ557d XGA DLP:

1) PS3 component cable + component-VGA adapter
$10-$30


2) HDMI-DVI cable + HDFury (HDFury2 is a little out of my price range)
$80+

My Viewsonic PJ557d supports YPbPr. It maxes at 1080i/720p, so I don't really need to use the hdmi port on the PS3 (to get 1080p). I'm trying to find the best option to display 1080i/720p.

My question is, would it be worth going digital, then using a transcoder(HDFury) to convert to analogue? Wouldn't going analogue all the way avoid the possible performance/quality cost of converting digital to analogue? But then on the other hand, would I lose any quality over a 10ft analogue component cable?

I'm leaning towards option #1. Let me know if you think option #2 is worth while. What kind of display quality/response difference (if any) might I expect...

Please chime in if you see any problem with option #1 in compartison with option #2...
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Please chime in if you see any problem with option #1 in compartison with option #2...
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I glazed over the rest of the conversation but option 1 will not work if your TV's VGA port does accept does not accept 720p or 1080i signals and/or Y/Pb/Pr component signals. If you can verify that it does then option 1 seems the way to go.

If your PJ really does accept YpbPr through the VGA port then option 1 is definitely the way to go.

Where would you buy a component to vga adapter? Most of the one's i've seen are converters and not direct adapters...

Where would you buy a component to vga adapter? Most of the one's i've seen are converters and not direct adapters...

Because if his display's VGA port accepts a component signal then there is no converting necessary and it will be a considerably cheaper method than his other options.

I got this as a present, but I have yet to try it...

http://www.vdigi.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=4&category_id=3&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1
http://www.vdigi.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/02091463fef321b891b11da12eaa4b07.jpg

Victor

Cool, that's what I was hoping to hear. My Viewsonic PJ557d dlp projector does support 720p/1080i and accepts YPbPr (it's in the specs & you can select signal mode in menu). I'll go with #1 and update you guys on how it goes. Now I just need to find that cheap but elusive component-to-vga adapter...

Vic, please update on how that PS3 vga cable treats ya.
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That vdigi cable is not a direct adapter, it converts the signal...and poorly at that, you'll lose some detail in dark scenes.

@Church, I asked where, not why....I already agree that if his monitor supports it, he should get a component to vga adaptor, but they're hard to find.

I found the adapter Infocus makes/sells. Search for SP-VESA-ADPT-R.
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Now leaning towards monoprice's rca-vga cables + coupler (cause the cables only come with male rca bits). Half the price and includes 12ft of cable..
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@Church, I asked where, not why....I already agree that if his monitor supports it, he should get a component to vga adaptor, but they're hard to find.

Haha, o sorry. Clearly wasn't paying attention. To answer that question: Monoprice.

the only way I can see this working is using componenent and feeding it into something like an x2vga2 ( google it). I used to use one back in the xbox1 days.

Now leaning towards monoprice's rca-vga cables + coupler (cause the cables only come with male rca bits). Half the price and includes 12ft of cable..
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I was thinking about that too, if you decide to try it, let us know ? =)

At $8 + $8 for shipping, I am definitely gonna try it out. That's $8 for a 12' component-to-vga cable, an rca coupler AND a 6' PS3 component output cable! Now I understand why people get so excited about monoprice.
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Will update in 7-14 days once I've got my gear (yes, I cheaped on shipping cause the fancy shipping cost almost tripple the price of the goods).
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& newfmp, in this particular instance (my projector's vga input accepts YPbPr and I'm only interested in 720p/1080i) there seems to be no need for a transcoder. It's just an interfacing issue. Analogue to analogue speaking the same language accross, so no need for fancy gadgets.
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Yep, works just fine!
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i'v got a 22" pc screen with res 1680x1050 and only a vga input..... will my ps3 work with this HD furry in betveen my pc screen and my ps3

Or what would be the best solution..... im so f%&ing noob that i dont get that YPbPr thing so if some one could help me(ewery body) XD thx

If anyone is still reading this there is a PS3 vga cable now but it has the wii in it too. The other end is the vga plug and composite cables red, green, and white.

Need three posts to put the link.

This should be the last one.

Here's the link. http://www.google.com/search?q=PS3+vga&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS358US366&prmd=sv&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=mbeuTJEnlOaxA5zSsPAL&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQrQQwAA[/url]

This seems like an appropriate place to ask my question(s).

I am trying to connect my PS3 to TV via VGA, using a Mayflash component-to-VGA converter box instead of HDMI. I need to use component because I record gaming footage, which goes through my Hauppauge HD PVR by means of component. I can't seem to get any video when i put it through the VGA converter. What's worse, my TV doesn't even recognize that a VGA connection is being made. I did try connecting my PC to my TV through the VGA port, so I know the dimensional limits (up to 1080p) and cables are fine. All wires are inserted properly. I have tried all display settings on the PS3, but that is a moot point since the TV doesn't even read the VGA input from the PS3 in the first place, yet works for my PC. Everything is plugged in. So what gives?

So my Sony Bravia LX900 TV will accept up to 1080p RGB through the VGA port's 15-pin D-sub input. I am really puzzled why my TV doesn't even recognize a connection. The PS3 + PVR connect perfectly fine through the TV's component input. So all I've added is a component-to-VGA convert box. Would that indicate that the converter is faulty? Or is it that my TV cannot recognize the VGA signal? (sync on green issue?)

Would appreciate any help you can give. I'm trying to reduce input lag from my TV, which is 50ms in gaming mode. Thank you!

A) Why not run component to the display. You said that works. You seem to be inventing a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. :)

B) Converting component to VGA is going to introduce lag. Which is the opposite of what you want to accomplish, it seems.

C) Hook your PS3>component>vga monster up to a PC monitor. Do you get a picture?

darklord. thank you for your reply.

A) yah it works. i was just under the impression that using the VGA port would eliminate the lag, while using component would still have lag. if component has no lag, why arent more ppl using that? *or why isnt that often discussed?
B) really? with how much confidence can you state opinion? (i am a complete noob, but i still would like to confirm things before believing it). do you have any reference or evidence to support this claim? also, if this is the case, then wouldnt any method of converting component (or HDMI) into VGA introduce lag, in which case there would be NO methods for reducing lag??
C) vga moster? is this some sort of sarcasm, cuz i dont get it. ill try to hook my PS3>converter>PC. thats a good idea.

"i was just under the impression that using the VGA port would eliminate the lag, while using component would still have lag. if component has no lag, why arent more ppl using that?"

Component itself does not have lag. It's just a video format. Potential lag comes from processing on the display side. VGA doesn't immediately, nor magically, eliminate lag, but most displays do less processing to an incoming VGA signal. The reasoning is simply that consumer TVs expect poor quality video content to come in over component, while fairly clean PC content is expected on VGA.

"really? with how much confidence can you state opinion?"

To oversimplify, any modern format conversion essentially needs a frame to work with. You capture a frame (16ms), then convert. Given this, any conversion is going to introduce 16ms of lag as a minimum, though more likely 33-50ms.

"also, if this is the case, then wouldnt any method of converting component (or HDMI) into VGA introduce lag, in which case there would be NO methods for reducing lag??"

The idea is not to convert to VGA to reduce lag, but to start with VGA. The PS3 doesn't support VGA natively, so that option is right out. In the case of the Dreamcast, 360, PC, and RGB modded classic consoles you can start with native VGA giving you a nice low-latency signal out of the box.

"vga moster? is this some sort of sarcasm, cuz i dont get it"

Any time you have that many things chained together, yeah, it's kind of a monster. To be more precise, it's not an elegant solution.

So, take your PS3, hook it up HDMI or component, grab a copy of Rock Band 2+ with the auto-calibrating guitar, and start testing settings on your display to see what reduces lag. The idea is to start with a good signal, then tweak any settings that you can on your display to reduce processing and therefore lag. The common things to play with are any Game Mode settings available, and to shut off any 120hz interpolation type options that may be on.

@darklord

so basically what youre saying is that there is no way to reduce the input lag, given my situation. i play using component, which as u said may need heavier processing done by the TV, thus introducing input lag. if i try to go through the (possibly) cleaner VGA port (for less processing) youre saying the extra conversion will just result in more lag anyway.

as i stated in my earlier post, im already using Gaming Mode, and someone has tested on these AVS forums (using either the Rockband method or similar) that my TV has 50ms in Gaming Mode. So really, i have no other choice but to just grin and bare it, or get rid of my overpriced TV for something else. not the most reassuring answers, but thats life i guess.

Or buy a 360, hook it up VGA native, and play your latency critical games on that. Assuming that your display actually runs at lower latency on VGA sources.