Hi,

The blending rig is in need of a lens set :D

I need to do some testing with a set of HD 10L lens.

So if you have any spare and for sale PLEASE contact me.

These are for really small screens.

Im in the UK.

Hi MadMrH, I've got a set down here in Cornwall, don't suppose you've got a set of GT17's for trade? :D

Jon

I have a set of HD10 GT17's that I'm looking to trade for a set of curved screen lens's. I believe that are the 905's that are used on the Barco 909 series?

Terry

A range of lenses optimized for curved screen setups ;)

HRQ 904
Screen width up to 4 m / 13 ft.
Screen radius 2.5-5m / 8-16 ft.

HRQ 910
Screen width up to 10 m / 32 ft.
Screen radius 5-15m / 16-49 ft.

(PM sent)

Hi MadMrH, I've got a set down here in Cornwall, don't suppose you've got a set of GT17's for trade? :D

Jon


HI, I have HD300 and HFQ900 that I can trade, good news for me the 10L's are the cheapest in the range :D

I dont have any "spare" GT17's

THe HFQ900 is the lens from the Cine9 , 909 , 919 - often reported to be the best lens available, I have 2 sets for the Blend rig BUT they wont get down to a small enought screen for me :(

Hmm the HQF900's sound tempting, have sent you a pm.

Jon

reported to be the best lens available

yep.

HI, I have HD300 and HFQ900 that I can trade, good news for me the 10L's are the cheapest in the range :D

I dont have any "spare" GT17's

THe HFQ900 is the lens from the Cine9 , 909 , 919 - often reported to be the best lens available, I have 2 sets for the Blend rig BUT they wont get down to a small enought screen for me :(


I'll trade you a set of HD10L's for HFQ900's :D

Andy... me me me me!!! Help me drive this blended rig further! :D

I've got 2 sets of GT17's if that will work for you? PM sent

There is a set for sale in Videogon.

Gino,

Please ask Mike Parker about these lens,

I would love to keep them BUT to be honest in the blend rig I am working on they wont go down small enough.....

My screen is only 8 foot wide.

I would like to keep them but I do think I have enough rare Barco stuff here and that others should use these..........

MP seems to know about these , I really only know that people tell me they are the best available and they are VERY RARE to find.....

Usually they come FREE




















With a Cine9 :D

I've got 4 or 5 sets of HD10L's they are very common on Marquee LC's.

I also got 2 HFQ900's and one strange outcast R5.ABU.

HD300 and HD10's are the same lenses and so is HD10GT17 and HD120.

I've been speaking with Mike and he concur's. PM sent :)

Is there a reason your screen is only 8ft wide? I'm selling my 121" wide Stewart Luxus Deluxe (only few months old) for real cheap (and I mean cheap)

I built the extension on the back of my place for the cinema.

At 8 Foot I can still fit the speakers either side of the screen.

IF I went to 9 foot I would need a semi perf Acoustic screen

At 10 foot Im outside the room :(




HOWEVER.....My living room is being extended so that will have more space BUT would not be a Cinema style room......

Maybe I blend a massive screen for normal TV with 2 of my 1209s units and just have one on its own for the cinema ;)


Choices, Choices :confused:

What choices???? ....knock down the wall! ;p

Gino PM sent....

Every HFQ900 I seen up to the present had a basic label on it. Then all of a sudden, I noticed a 909 with gold labels on the lenses. Which is very different from the silver (black lettering) "HFQ900" label that I've been seeing on the 909's.

Anyway, I'm seeing both HQF900 and HD10E on these lenses:


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4205/hpim1311ho7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

HD10 FAMILY DESIGN SPECIFICATIONSThe HD10 family of lenses has been designed to maximize performance and
versatility for professional CRT projection video, data and graphics applications.

All HD10 family lenses are optically coupled and designed to cover a full 178mm
(7”) raster diagonal. They are all fully color corrected hybrid designs,
incorporating both plastic and glass elements and share the same C-element and
mounting geometry, making it possible to interchange the lenses on the same
projector.

The following is a brief description of lenses in the HD10 family.

HD10E – The HD10E covers 167mm focal length (7”) CRT raster diagonal. It
was designed to provide good performance over the largest possible
magnification range (14-45X). For this reason, CPL recommends the HD10E
lens for applications where the intended screen size requirements may vary over
this wide range (90” – 300” diagonal).

HD10L – The HD10L is designed for optimized performance for smaller screen
sizes not covered by other HD10 family lenses. This lens provides excellent
performance for a specific magnification range (9-13X). CPL recommends the
HD10L lens for applications requiring screen sizes of 60-90” diagonal.

HD10GT17 – The HD10GT17 is designed for improved resolution over the HD10
lens over a specific magnification range. This lens provides excellent
performance for magnifications of 14-20X. CPL recommends the HD10GT17
lens for applications requiring screen sizes of 100-140” diagonal.

HD10GT26 – The HD10GT26 lens is designed for improved resolution over the
HD10E lens for magnifications of 21-30X. CPL recommends the HD10GT26 for
applications requiring screen sizes of 150-200” diagonal.

HD10GT30-67 – The HD10GT30-67 is designed for improved resolution over the
HD10E for magnifications of 30-45X and to extend the range of the family up to
67X. CPL recommends the HD10GT30-67 for high magnification applications
requiring screen diagonals of 210-460”.

The HD10R5M lens is designed for improved resolution utilizing a curved 4 meter
diameter screen application. It is designed for magnifications of 15-70X. This
lens is designed for Simulation applications and thus was designed for a domed
screen.

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Now thats interesting ! Thanks Mike .

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Shana Hiatt is one VERY good reason to watch Poker After Dark.........

Terry

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Hi,

The HD10E is NOT a HFQ900 lens - thats what I understand.

YES it is based on the same focus / optical range but NOT the same unit.

THE HFQ900 lens sets in Mikes picture are the later type. the early type have a silver label black "HFQ900"

As I understand the HFQ900 is a very high quality, very tight % tolerance version of the HD10E

So true to say ALL HFQ900s are HD10E's BUT NOT true to say all DH10E are HFQ900..........

Wanna stack your odds???

The HD10F featured on G90s and SOME 1292s IS the very same HFQ900..........

That is another reason why the G90 is so sharp.

Now I dont work for USPL so I cant be 100% sure of this statement, BUT maybe someone USA side would drop them an email or call em...........

really interesting specs on lenses, i have a barco 1209s with the hd-10gt26 lens on it,
acording to specs best viewed on 150" - 200" inch screen, i am using a 96" diagonal
screen, could this be why my focus is not as good at the corner and edges? also specs
say they are all color corrected, i don't think mine are color corrected, man. date 1998,
when i look into the lense with the projector off with a flashlight they all look white, i also have a barco 708mm with factory hd-145 lenses on it, man. date 2001, would these AC lenses work on the 1209 LC projector and would i want to if they did fit, would it help with giving me better colors? and better focus on the edges and corners? or should i stay with the hd-10gt26?


thanks!

really interesting specs on lenses, i have a barco 1209s with the hd-10gt26 lens on it,
acording to specs best viewed on 150" - 200" inch screen, i am using a 96" diagonal
screen, could this be why my focus is not as good at the corner and edges? also specs
say they are all color corrected, i don't think mine are color corrected, man. date 1998,
when i look into the lense with the projector off with a flashlight they all look white, i also have a barco 708mm with factory hd-145 lenses on it, man. date 2001, would these AC lenses work on the 1209 LC projector and would i want to if they did fit, would it help with giving me better colors? and better focus on the edges and corners? or should i stay with the hd-10gt26?


thanks!

The proper lenses for that size screen would be the GT-17 lenses. The problem is that there aren't that many GT-17 lenses around, so they go for big $$.

ALL lenses are colour corrected - thats part of the lens process.

"Colour Filtered" is what you require - On the 1209s and other LC 9" units you change the "C" (Critical) element to a colour filtered one.You do this on the Green and Red only, The blue does not require this.

For your screen HD120 or HFQ900 are the best possible and yes they will both give you a better focus.

You cant fit AC style lens on LC - the front of the LC chamber is a lens.

Still looking for some HRQ curved screen lens's if anyone has any.......

Terry

For your screen HD120 or HFQ900 are the best possible and yes they will both give you a better focus.



Aren't the HD-120/HFQ-900 the Barco designations for the GT-17 lenses?

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BRUUUUUUUUUUUCE! :)

Welcome back! Long time no see! How are you doing?

I'm still alive.....thanks to oxygen. :) I'm just tired most of the time.

About all I'm good for now (according to my wife), is watching movies all day and night. :(

really interesting specs on lenses, i have a barco 1209s with the hd-10gt26 lens on it,
acording to specs best viewed on 150" - 200" inch screen, i am using a 96" diagonal
screen, could this be why my focus is not as good at the corner and edges? also specs
say they are all color corrected, i don't think mine are color corrected, man. date 1998,
when i look into the lense with the projector off with a flashlight they all look white, i also have a barco 708mm with factory hd-145 lenses on it, man. date 2001, would these AC lenses work on the 1209 LC projector and would i want to if they did fit, would it help with giving me better colors? and better focus on the edges and corners? or should i stay with the hd-10gt26?


thanks!

Absolutely that is why your focus suffers. You have the wrong lenses, you need EITHER plain HD10 lenses OR HD10-GT17's to achieve proper focus on your sized screen....
Or make your screen a lot bigger...

Color "corrected" is not the same as color "filtered". The lenses on your Barco 708mm are color filtered to only allow a certain wavelength of red and green light through. I'm sure you noticed the blue is not filtered, as it would cut the light output too much, blue is too weak already...

LC(liquid coupled) tubes, as are installed in your 1209s, have the first lens element built into the tube as the front of the coolant chamber. On normal air coupled tubes, the front of the coolant chamber is a simple piece of glass. By replacing this plain piece of glass with the first lens element, the amount of reflections in the light path from projection lens to screen is reduced, which results in a reduction in haloing when light objects are shown against a dark background.

This means that, in order to add color filtering, you need to change the first lens element, or the "C" element as its called, which is installed as the front of the coolant chamber on your tubes.

thanks guys for all the input and feedback, i'm learning a lot, i've only had this pj
a few weeks, the more more i mess with it the better it's looking, i noticed yesterday
with a 720p signal from an OTA hdtv tuner i get almost perfect edge focus as compared
to the 1280 x 1040 signal i get with dvd's, colors seem to be a lot better too on the 720p
signal...

HD-120, GT17 and HFQ900 are all the same basically from my testing and wont make a difference. The real difference on a 9 inch is not the lens but the tube type you use. IF you have a HD-120 but don't use a high rez PT-22 or P19lug tube then you wont have any benefit.

10L made for small screens but resolution is greater than 10E or HD-300, but you cant go too large or side focus suffers. The 10L is a good lens for home theater.

...Basically you cant go super large and retain your focus... so if your lens is rated at 300 inches you can be sure the focus suffers you cant make the optics convex enough to resolve both..

10F I think is also the same as a HD-120 HFQ and GT but not sure would have to test it. I have never seen a 10F on any unit I have repaired.

HFQ is Barcos fancy re-badge and I have put HD-120 lenses on a 909 barco and they work exactly the same. ( I had this discussion with Barb over at 3m years back and she said that HFQ was nothign special just Barco Marketing)

I don't like HD-300 lenses as the side focus and center suffers on small screens. The HD-300 or (10E) is lower rez (10mm if correct) but can project a larger screen 300 inch! I recommend for people to replace there HD-300 or 10E with a new lens.





Greg

Is there any definitive answer on the HD10-F lens? Are they the same lens before being rebadged by barco as the HFQ 900?
I searched but cant find any one who has tested both?

Athanasios

have the HD10L and curvscreen lenses also from barco 909 if anybody needs them

email me at jrhemmabio@hotmail.com for pictures etc etc

Is there any definitive answer on the HD10-F lens? Are they the same lens before being rebadged by barco as the HFQ 900?
I searched but cant find any one who has tested both?

Athanasios

There IS a difference between the HD10F's that come on the 1292 and the HD10F's that come on the G90. The G90 lens's are much better.
We have also tested the HFQ900's against the G90 HF10F's and found that their performance was very close.......to close to call.

Terry

have the HD10L and curvscreen lenses also from barco 909 if anybody needs them

email me at jrhemmabio@hotmail.com for pictures etc etc

I wouldn't mind trying the HQR lens's but last time I checked, they were way to expensive.
I have some things I can trade like 180dmb tubes if interested, you can email me at terfer@comcast.net

Terry

thanks Terry I'll have to ask where they came from, but I also heard that the later 1292 had the same HD10F's as the sony G90's, is this true?

Athanasios