http://samsung.com/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select2.aspx?type=Blu%2Dray&subtype=Blu%2Dray+Disc+Player&model=BD%2DP1000&fileType=FM&LSSI=%2Finclude%2FSSI%2Fus%5Fleft%2FLMenu%5FBlu%5Fray%5FBlu% 5FrayDiscPlayer%2Esec&RSSI=%2Finclude%2FSSI%2Fus%5Fright%2FRMenu%5FBlu%5Fray%2Esec
Found by jivc79...

Firmware fixes:

Dts "judder" problem fixed
Allows 4:3 pillarboxing (BD material only)
Improved load times
Changes hour glass to "colored dots"
Corrects analog outs, if reversed
Allows playback of BD-R/BD-RE discs
Improved PQ of BD and DVD playback
Parental control problem fixed
Fixes HDMI compatability problems with certain displays
Loses region free abilities

PDF manual wants me to download Korean fonts?

PDF manual wants me to download Korean fonts?
Yes.. I had to that too in order to see it. Manual doesnt say what it does, just how to do it...

Can someone walk me through this???? I just downloaded Nero 7, and cant make any sense of it!!!! I also have Windows Media. I made two attempts to burn, with no luck!!!! Im out of disks so I will pick up some more tomorrow. If someone can post a step by step list of how to this it would be great. My only knowledge of this stuff is ripping and burning audio CD....
Thanks!

I'll be keeping my eye on this thread. Can't wait to see what it addresses.

i just ordered my sammy on friday using my amex points i had accumulated, as soon as it arrives if its not already updated ill burn the iso and see what i can find, read all 8 pages late last night of the other topic and didnt notice the mention of that firmware link, so i created an account and mentioned it :)

we need details on this, here is my take:

all the CD's being sent are for the DTS Fix, very very soon will be the NR fix(according to Samsung), I am guessing this website update is the DTS Fix, and then soon the NR Cd's will start being sent and that download will be put up

someone call Samsung tech. and confirm what the website download is for? we will all owe you one ;)

-Gary

A friend downloaded this and said it was a 8mb file. Since the Toshiba firmware updates are usually in the 40-60mb range, I'd figure this can't be the big PQ/BD-J fix. It has to be the DTS fix.

I no longer own a Sammy, since I've exchanged it for the Panny, and my friend doesn't have any DTS BDs. Can someone try a Lionsgate or Paramount title to see?

we need details on this, here is my take:

all the CD's being sent are for the DTS Fix, very very soon will be the NR fix(according to Samsung), I am guessing this website update is the DTS Fix, and then soon the NR Cd's will start being sent and that download will be put up

someone call Samsung tech. and confirm what the website download is for? we will all owe you one ;)

-Gary

Gary - Just got off the phone with CS. All they would say is it is for "Disc Compatability". lol

^ That has to be for DTS compatibility, then.

I just completed the update process, tried all of the menu options and tested a SD-DVD with DTS and DD 5.1.

The update took a total of 11-1/2 minutes.

Here is the sequence and the messages displayed:

1. Powered up the Samsung and ejected the empty tray.

2. Inserted the CD-ROM with the burned ISO image.

3. On-screen message #1: "Verifying System F/W"
Front panel message: "No DISC"

4. On-screen message #2: "Do you want to update System F/W?
PSD: 60605.1 --> 61011.1
DMN: 60526.1 --> 60929.1
LDR: 529F"

"Yes" and "No" radio buttons with Yes outlined in yellow.

5. I used remote to select "Yes"

6. On-screen message #3: "Main F/W Update Now Processing. Please do not turn off the power."
Front panel message: "CD-UP"

7. On-screen message #4: "Sub F/W Update Now Processing. Please do not turn off the power."
Front panel message: "CD-UP"

8. After 11-1/2 minutes, the disc automatically ejected and the power automatically turned off.

***************

These are the changes I've noted so far. Note that I have not played a BD yet.

1. Test tones work properly now (but only for PCM; they don't work at all for Bitstream).

2. I get DD 5.1, DTS, and PCM output.

1. Test tones work properly now (but only for PCM; they don't work at all for Bitstream).

2. I get DD 5.1, DTS, and PCM output.




#1 The test tones shouldnt work for bitstream, so thats good!!!

#2 Are you saying the Samsung now decodes those audio codecs(Dolby Digital, DTS) and can be output through the analogs???

Did the picture glitch (drop frames) during DTS playback?

i just ordered my sammy on friday using my amex points i had accumulated, as soon as it arrives if its not already updated ill burn the iso and see what i can find, read all 8 pages late last night of the other topic and didnt notice the mention of that firmware link, so i created an account and mentioned it :)
Thanks again!!!

#2 Are you saying the Samsung now decodes those audio codecs(Dolby Digital, DTS) and can be output through the analogs???

Always did.

Always did.
No it didnt... It never decoded internally so it could be passed through as PCM.

Did the picture glitch (drop frames) during DTS playback?

This is the fix I'm looking for. Total Recall will be the first disc I throw in after I do the upgrade.

No it didnt... It never decoded internally so it could be passed through as PCM.

Well then how come since I have not applied the firmware update and I have a June build date, can I currently listening to the DTS soundtrack of T2 throgh my analog outs? I'm doing it right now.

Did it eliminate the hourglass and fix the y/c delay?

Well then how come since I have not applied the firmware update and I have a June build date. I am currently listening to the DTS soundtrack of T2 throgh my analog outs?
Hmmmmm The manual says it wont decode, but I recall someone(Chad or Michael) saying it will decode as long as its on a BD disk. Try a standard DVD and see if it will decode anything on that.
This was a big complaint for me since I couldnt use Avia to calibrate my speakers properly for analog out and just stuck to good ole optical out.

Hmmmmm The manual says it wont decode, but I recall someone(Chad or Michael) saying it will decode as long as its on a BD disk. Try a standard DVD and see if it will decode anything on that.
This was a big complaint for me since I couldnt use Avia to calibrate my speakers properly for analog out and just stuck to good ole optical out.

Shamus - Bingo!! No go on the DTS from an SD/DVD. Never thought to try it, I always used the optical for SD/DVD. Looks like it plays DD on SD/DVD, but only 2 channel? They both work as 5.1 with a BD, though! Anyhow, going to upgrade now, will report back any new findings.

Shamus - Bingo!! No go on the DTS from an SD/DVD. Never thought to try it, I always used the optical for SD/DVD. Looks like it plays DD on SD/DVD, but only 2 channel? They both work as 5.1 with a BD, though! Anyhow, going to upgrade now, will report back any new findings.
Ok great... Im not going crazy!!! Please check that right away cause that would be huge if it can now decode it. I cant wait to try this uncompressed PCM now that I will be able to calibrate my speakers!!!
Thanks and let me know!!!

come on guys spill :), my Sammy will be here tomorrow or thursday, someone let us know what this update does ;)

thanks

-Gary

come on guys spill :), my Sammy will be here tomorrow or thursday, someone let us know what this update does ;)

thanks

-Gary
Gary, I called also today and it seems it wont fix the DNR chip. The only thing I could get out of them is it fixes "compatibility" issues... whatever that might be??

The update reverts to setup defaults, need to check all settings to see if they are correct for your particular needs! DTS stutter gone, picture quality seems the same to me. It is a 52.7MB file, so must have had more fixes than just the DTS problem.

A friend downloaded this and said it was a 8mb file. Since the Toshiba firmware updates are usually in the 40-60mb range, I'd figure this can't be the big PQ/BD-J fix. It has to be the DTS fix.Keep in mind that Toshiba does their firmwares differently. With the way the Toshiba was designed, each firmware update entirely replaces the previous one, even though most files are unchanged. Samsung may simply include the patches or changed files.

The PQ "fix" will probably take the form of changed settings for the Genesis chip, which would only require a few bytes.

The update reverts to setup defaults, need to check all settings to see if they are correct for your particular needs! DTS stutter gone, picture quality seems the same to me. It is a 52.7MB file, so must have had more fixes than just the DTS problem.
Some people had problems with their analog outs being reversed.. I believe it was addressed in an earlier firmware that was never posted. Thats probably fixed too.

this is the DTS fix, no doubt about it

thanks Shamus

-Gary

Just burned my CD and will update my Sammy later today. I can confirm it is 52MB in size.

I would also like to know the answer to Garys question, does this update replace the hour glass ?

Thanks!

I can not get mine to update says cd. Help Please

A friend downloaded this and said it was a 8mb file. Since the Toshiba firmware updates are usually in the 40-60mb range, I'd figure this can't be the big PQ/BD-J fix. It has to be the DTS fix.

I no longer own a Sammy, since I've exchanged it for the Panny, and my friend doesn't have any DTS BDs. Can someone try a Lionsgate or Paramount title to see?

I was the one who had said it was an 8mb file. Looked again and it is indeed the 52MB size file. Time to go get those glasses checked. ;)

I think the compressed zip file is 8MB. 52MB is uncompressed.

Just burned my CD and will update my Sammy later today. I can confirm it is 52MB in size.

I would also like to know the answer to Garys question, does this update replace the hour glass ?

Thanks!

Alan and Gary - YES :D The hourglass is gone. Replaced with the colored dots.

Shamus - Playing SD/DVD the DTS audio behaviour has not changed.

I cannot comment on PQ at this time (Had eye surgery a few days ago - Ointment in my right eye) :(

Wayne

EDIT: It does reset the parental control as well. Be sure to reset it (defaults to 1-Kids).

Thank you Wayne !

Seems like the firmware brings June-build players more in line with July or later build players, what with this colored dots. Someone should check 4:3 material on BDs to see if the player pillarboxes or stretches.

Wait.... DTS hasn't changed? So it still has the same problem with DTS?

Sorry - Should have qualified that:

Playing SD/DVD the DTS audio behaviour has not changed.

Anyone with a July build try to update the player to see if this is indeed a later upgrade? My refurb Samsung has the dots and the picture has looked fine. No signs of softness. Maybe this is all we will get.

I'm assuming this player will never do Dolby True HD. Not that I expected it to.

Seems like the firmware brings June-build players more in line with July or later build players, what with this colored dots. Someone should check 4:3 material on BDs to see if the player pillarboxes or stretches.

It doesn't pillarbox 4:3 SD/DVD

I had popped the firmware disc into my player this morning and nothing happened. Perhaps the reason for this is because it was an August build and already had the color dots instead of hourglass.

Anyone with a July build try to update the player to see if this is indeed a later upgrade? My refurb Samsung has the dots and the picture has looked fine. No signs of softness. Maybe this is all we will get.

I'm assuming this player will never do Dolby True HD. Not that I expected it to.
Samsung has said that NONE of the players at this point have the DNR chip turned off till sometime in the last week of October when they make changes to their production line... So in theory your player should get sharper in another week or two!!!
In my opinion, just getting rid of the hour glass is worth it alone!!!
It certainly appears that this is the same firmware that the August and later builds have...

I took a break and popped in the Disc and the update is taking place as we speak.
The front LED readout says "No Disc" when you first insert the disc. This is normal, dont be alarmed.
Nice to see Sammy finally moving on the long awaited updates. I hope the next one is not to far off.

It doesn't pillarbox 4:3 SD/DVDYes. I know. I suggested checking 4:3 content on BDs, such as featurettes, music videos, etc. When I tried a June-build player, this was stretched out; when I tried an August-build player, it was pillarboxed.

Yeah getting rid of the hourglass and fixing the DTS are steps in the right direction. I hope they address the yc delay soon...

if the Samsung does have a Y/C delay that sucks for folks, luckily I use a scaler/processor, the DVDO VP50, which will get rid of that is 2 shakes

-Gary

if the Samsung does have a Y/C delay that sucks for folks, luckily I use a scaler/processor, the DVDO VP50, which will get rid of that is 2 shakes

-Gary


I cannot say how much of a delay the Samsung has if it has any but I can say I have seen Chroma Delay issues between different movie titles. For what ever reason one will has something shifted to the left while the next movie works at default. I wish there was an auto sensing thing in the processors.

Cool.... off to load the disc in my Samsung.

Interesting that this came the same day that my HD-A1 2.0 disc finally came in the mail...

Yes. I know. I suggested checking 4:3 content on BDs, such as featurettes, music videos, etc. When I tried a June-build player, this was stretched out; when I tried an August-build player, it was pillarboxed.

Just tried a 4:3 BD featurette, and yes it is pillarboxed.

In my opinion, just getting rid of the hour glass is worth it alone!!!




Sorry, I'm a die hard Blu supporter but thumbs down to Samsung! I'm pretty sure people expected more. An update to the Aug build isn't much of an improvement. There are people here who waited months for this release and what they get is a half@$$ed (pardon my French!) update that doesn't even properly address what people have been complaining about. :mad:

I hope another update is coming soon.

So being that my player has a July build date, does this mean that the patch will give me no improvement in PQ? If that is the case I will have to return it next weekend before my 30 days are up and get either the Panasonic or Sony. Seeing that I can't find the Panny, Best Buy says they have them in their warehouse but none in stores in my area, I'm not too happy. Especially with the MSRP that the Panny has, they should, but they don't, have one on display so we can at least see if the PQ holds up to the hype.

Eightninesuited, I think its a great firmware update. Terminator 2 in DTS does not have that slight stuttering problem anymore. Before the update I had some problems from time to time loading Ultra Violet and Tears of the Sun. Full Metal Jacket would not load up at all but I decided to hold on to that movie until the update came out. I'm glad I did. Now these movies boot up with ease. As stated earlier most of my BD movies look really sharp, and may be a little sharper now. I would not be suprised if this update turned off the noise reduction but its hard to tell without a side by side comparison.

Something very interesting just happened when I tried to load the new firmware disc into my Sammy. It read the disc briefly and then said on the screen "CURRENT LOADER IS THE SAME". Does that mean my player had already received the update? If so, I still get stuttering when I play Lionsgate DTS playback. I think I may call Samsung support to get an idea.

I downloaded the firmware burned to a data cd-r with nero. When I put it in the player it says it is a cd. I called Samsung talked to T2 Tech support and they said I would have to wait for the next firmware on Oct. 31 and that would also fix the DNR chip. Has anybody else had trouble installing the update. Tech support told me they were having trouble.

I have a August build player that had the DTS skip issue, and I was still able to update my firmware. Supposedly there is another F/W that is going to be released at the end of the month that will fix the NR chip.

I downloaded the firmware burned to a data cd-r with nero. When I put it in the player it says it is a cd. I called Samsung talked to T2 Tech support and they said I would have to wait for the next firmware on Oct. 31 and that would also fix the DNR chip. Has anybody else had trouble installing the update. Tech support told me they were having trouble.

Just an idea, try burning to a DVD R and see it takes that.

I downloaded the firmware burned to a data cd-r with nero. When I put it in the player it says it is a cd. I called Samsung talked to T2 Tech support and they said I would have to wait for the next firmware on Oct. 31 and that would also fix the DNR chip. Has anybody else had trouble installing the update. Tech support told me they were having trouble.

You have to burn it as a disc image... not just an ordinary data disc.

Sorry, I'm a die hard Blu supporter but thumbs down to Samsung! I'm pretty sure people expected more. An update to the Aug build isn't much of an improvement. There are people here who waited months for this release and what they get is a half@$$ed (pardon my French!) update that doesn't even properly address what people have been complaining about. :mad:

I hope another update is coming soon.
LOL... Its suppose to hit at the end of this month...

To those of you who are having problems burning this stuff(I know, I had to have my friend from Geek Squad do it), if you cant get help, you can always call Samsung and they will ship you out a disc...

Another thing I noticed is the boot times have decreased. I timed it in another thread, sometime ago... From powering on the unit till the tray opens is 27 seconds. Its still 27 seconds. However with placing Underworld in the tray from the time I press close till the Sony screen pops up it was 36 seconds... its now 28 seconds.
Im gonna edit the original post to include what this firmware fixes(since Samsung doesnt tell us!) If I missed anything let me know!!!

If someone can post more detailed instructions on how to install to help these users who are having problems... I had no idea how to uncompress it and find a program that would burn an image burn???

To those of you who are having problems burning this stuff(I know, I had to have my friend from Geek Squad do it), if you cant get help, you can always call Samsung and they will ship you out a disc...

Another thing I noticed is the boot times have decreased. I timed it in another thread, sometime ago... From powering on the unit till the tray opens is 27 seconds. Its still 27 seconds. However with placing Underworld in the tray from the time I press close till the Sony screen pops up it was 36 seconds... its now 28 seconds.
Im gonna edit the original post to include what this firmware fixes(since Samsung doesnt tell us!) If I missed anything let me know!!!

If someone can post more detailed instructions on how to install to help these users who are having problems... I had no idea how to uncompress it and find a program that would burn an image burn???



WINRAR can uncompress and IMGBURN is the best software to use for creating CDs from image files. It's free and you can get it from : http://www.imgburn.com/

Best to set the write speed to 1X in order to minimize errors. This is the setting recomnended by MS when creating a disc from the MS Windows Vista images.

I agree load times have decrease significantly with this firmware upgrade.

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?p=471#post471

I've just updated the firmware on my Samsung. It IS disconcerting that there is no explanation as to what issues the firmware addresses or what to look for, but here is what I've found this evening since updating the firmware:

1) Start-up time appears to be faster. I tried Sony, LionsGate, and Warner discs and they all seem to load the menu or logo screen in about 6 seconds, give or take. Also note that the hourglass is gone, replaced by the colored dots described by some on AVS forum on the units that have been modified.

2) DTS and DTS-ES playback on Blu-ray discs no longer cause stutter. I gave both Crash and T2 a test drive. I had seen Crash look jumpy when using the DTS-ES track before and switched over to Dolby Digital EX. However, I am happy to report that is no longer necessary for DTS fans.

3) 4:3 SD segments played back on BD discs now are presented in pillar-box. Before the update, the standard-def featurettes on Warner Bros.' Corpse Bride played back stretched to fill the 16:9 screen. Not so anymore. SD plays back in the appropriate aspect ratio. Side note: This correction does not seem to apply to SD discs.

4) Standard DVD up-conversion greatly improved. Previously I steered away from using the Samsung to play standard DVDs, using instead my Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD player for its excellent up-conversion capapbilities. The Samsung is now in the same ballpark! The once fuzzy clumsy up-conversion process has been bumped up to a respectable quality. I have not yet done a side-by-side comparrison, but suffice to say I no longer see the need to avoid this player to up-convert my SD DVDs now.

There may be other changes, but these are the ones I've noticed so far. I did notice there are actually 3 individual files in the firmware update, so I'm thinking that represents 3 individual functions of the player that have been specifically addressed.

sounds good TX, another update on the 31st should round things out well ;)

-Gary

Guys, if you are having trouble doing this just follow the directions you got from Samsung and to burn the file see the link from post #7. I did it and I never even used my CD/DVD burner in my new laptop before. Make sure the .ISO file you end up with after uncompressing the .RAR file is 52meg or there abouts. Then just follow the directions from post #7. If you don't have that 52meg ISO file to burn to the disk you don't have what you need for the firmware upgrade. BTW....mine works great. No more hour glass and no more DTS stutter. It seems to load a little faster and I thought it might be just a hair sharper and I don't have any idea why since the DNR chip won't be fixed until later. Good luck and keep trying.

Yep, my upgrade went fine and only took 10 minutes. DTS stutter is gone and there is definitely load time improvement. I'm a happy camper!

For those having problems opening the instruction PDF here is a transcript of it:

Software Update Procedure for BD-P1000
INTRODUCTION:

This manual describes the S/W update procedure for BD-P1000. Please follow the below procedure. If you have any problems during S/W updating, please contact the Samsung Service Call Center.

HOW TO MAKE AN UPDATE CD

Burn the downloaded file onto a blank CD-R or CD-RW disc, following the below procedures:

1) Download the software update file from the Samsung internet site
2) If the update file is compressed (*.zip/rar), the file should be uncompressed before burning.
3) You must burn the update file on a blank CD-R/W disc by using the "Burn image" option. (Ref. "Recorder" menu>"Burn Image" if you're using Nero Burning ROM)
4) Burn the image file of the software update file (*.iso)

NOTICE:

> Recommended CD burning program
- Nero Burning ROM
> Burning options (if using Nero)
- "Recorder" menu>"Burn Image">select an uncompressed image file of the software update file (*.iso)
- Please check "Finalize CD (No further writing possible)"
- Please refer to your own CD burning program manual if you want to use any other CD burning program for burning the ISO image file.
> Make sure the downloaded software is eligible for your BD-P1000 (e.g. CD image file name: XXXXXX_XX_BDP1000XAA.iso)
> The software update will not be executed if using an update CD which is not made with the above procedures.

UPDATE PROCEDURE:

WARNING
IMPORTANT: Please read the below notice before updating your unit.

The following events may interrupt the update process and MAY RESULT IN PERMANENT DAMAGE TO THE UNIT WHILE UPDATING.

a) Unplugging the power cord
b) Power Outage
c) Dirt or scratches on the disc
d) Opening the disc tray during processing.

PROCEDURE

1) Press OPEN/CLOSE to open the disc tray
2) Insert the update CD with the software update, label facing up
3) Press OPEN/CLOSE to close the disc tray.
- View the monitor and after checking the old and new version numbers select "Yes" or "No" with "<" or ">" on the remote control. If you select "No", the BD-P1000 will be powered off after ejecting the tray.
* The version is indicated by "YYMMDD xx"
* If you don't see the message above, try another disc. Generally this is caused by disc quality or a disc creating problem.
4) Press the ENTER button on the remote control
- You will see "CD-UP" on the FLT display
- TV screen displays "Main F/W Update, now processing, please do not turn off the power.
5) It takes about 14-15 minutes to complete the update. The message "Main F/W has been updated successfully." will be displayed on the screen after the update is complete and the tray will open automatically. Do not turn the unit off, it will shutdown automatically.

* If the "Main F/W has been updated successfully" message does not appear on the screen after 16 minutes and the unit is no longer functioning properly, contact a Samsung Authorized Service Center.

6) After removing the update disc (make sure the unit has powered off automatically), turn on the unit with the Power button. The display will show the Menu Languages within a few seconds. Select the language you want with a corresponding number button.
The flash update is now completed.

Standard DVD up-conversion greatly improved. Previously I steered away from using the Samsung to play standard DVDs, using instead my Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD player for its excellent up-conversion capapbilities. The Samsung is now in the same ballpark! The once fuzzy clumsy up-conversion process has been bumped up to a respectable quality. I have not yet done a side-by-side comparrison, but suffice to say I no longer see the need to avoid this player to up-convert my SD DVDs now.

Can anybody else confirm this ^^^^?

Thank You sqlb I got it to work with imgburn.

For those of you with Blu-Ray burners.....

The firmware update fixes the playback of "BDAV" BD-R/BD-RE discs burned in Blu-Ray Burners.

I bought the Sony Blu-Ray PC Burner back in August and started burning my high-def footage from my Sony HDV camcorder onto blu-ray discs only to find out that the Samsung player couldn't play BDAV format discs.

BDAV is the format for home movies on blu-ray discs vs. BDMV (Movie) format. Basically the folder structure on the disc is different and the Samsung player couldn't handle it. No more.... they now play back!

Now we just need more sophisticated blu-ray authoring software that will allow for menu's and other neat effects -- and eventually I'm sure we'll see it. For now -- BDAV discs don't have menus, the footage just starts to play back automatically when the disc is inserted. You can skip forward and backward between clips, but thats about it.

A good start at least!

Regards,
Aaron

Anybody seeing better PQ with this? I just watched a bit of Stargate(still cant see why most dont think this looks great) and 8 below... I really think it looks a tad sharper with this fix. Although I cant be sure by memory alone.

I really think it looks a tad sharper with this fix.

I think so as well...if only just a hair.

Yes. The PQ has improved slightly. I don't know if its the black levels that have improved that makes the picture look a litle bit sharper..

I must say I am VERY impressed with this update. The startup is much, much faster. I wish the Toshiba were this fast.

The resume feature works great, I wasn't even aware that the Samsung had this. Started up the player today where I turned it off last night and within seconds it was playing exactly where I left off on Fifth Element.

Also, Fifth Element seems much sharper (with the exception of some really bad shots), but I'm sure this has to be just my mind playing tricks on me...

Ok... several people are reporting improved PQ both on BD and DVD playback. What connection are you guys using???? Im using HDMI.
I wonder if the DNR chip was turned off after all or maybe some other kind of tweaking was done that improved PQ????????

Ok... several people are reporting improved PQ both on BD and DVD playback. What connection are you guys using???? Im using HDMI.
I wonder if the DNR chip was turned off after all or maybe some other kind of tweaking was done that improved PQ????????


I'm running component through Kim's superb transcoder to my NEC 6PG+ that was calibrated and set up by NEC guru Doug Baisey on a 106" screen.

I need to do more viewing before I say the picture is really better though. I'll check the one film that really seemed excessively soft on my Samsung, T2.

I'm running component through Kim's superb transcoder to my NEC 6PG+ that was calibrated and set up by NEC guru Doug Baisey on a 106" screen.

I need to do more viewing before I say the picture is really better though. I'll check the one film that really seemed excessively soft on my Samsung, T2.
Yes please do... Its tough to confirm a small improvement by memory alone...

HDMI to a Sanyo Z4 here.

The NR filter hasn't been turn off. Therefore, the image is still soft. What I notice is a very slight improvement in sharpness and contrast.
I am using HDMI connected to a Marantz SR9600, and from the receiver to the TV with an HDMI to DVI cable. TV is a Mitsubishi 65813 CRT RPTV.

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?p=471#post471

4) Standard DVD up-conversion greatly improved. Previously I steered away from using the Samsung to play standard DVDs, using instead my Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD player for its excellent up-conversion capapbilities. [...]


5) The player is now a fully Region A coded player... can't play my Fox region B discs anymore (i have some check discs for testing and review). I'm getting a screenshot similar to the one of RCE protected DVD's... :(

Paolo

For me it fixed a problem where I had the Sammy hooked up to a Dell LCD via HDMI-DVI cable and before it would give the inital splash screen, then lose sync. Now it works without a problem, so if anyone was having HDMI problems, this may help you.

This is turning out to be a hefty firmware... I just noticed since the firmware resets everything, I havent had to engage the parental control. So basically if you have no need for parental control, just leave it alone.

I'm using an HDMI to DVI converter cable to my Sharp DLP projector.

I'm using an HDMI to DVI converter cable to my Sharp DLP projector.
I see you noticed an improvement for DVD's... What about BD?

Another nail in the coffin for HD DVD.

I called Samsung again today in an attempt to find out exactly what this firmware fixes.... The guy I talked to was not sure. I was placed on hold a couple times and when he came back he suggested this could be the firmware that was suppose to be due by the end of this month, which would mean it has the DNR chip turned off. I must caution that he made it very clear that he wasn't sure. Take this for what its worth....

I see you noticed an improvement for DVD's... What about BD?
Hard to say... I'm projecting at 720p, and I was not watching the discs just before I updated, so I would just be comparing to the picture as best as I could remember. I have no complaints about the picture quality at any rate. Corpse Bride is as sharp as anything I've seen projected.

I just completed the update process, tried all of the menu options and tested a SD-DVD with DTS and DD 5.1.

The update took a total of 11-1/2 minutes.

Here is the sequence and the messages displayed:

1. Powered up the Samsung and ejected the empty tray.

2. Inserted the CD-ROM with the burned ISO image.

3. On-screen message #1: "Verifying System F/W"
Front panel message: "No DISC"

4. On-screen message #2: "Do you want to update System F/W?
PSD: 60605.1 --> 61011.1
DMN: 60526.1 --> 60929.1
LDR: 529F"

"Yes" and "No" radio buttons with Yes outlined in yellow.

5. I used remote to select "Yes"

6. On-screen message #3: "Main F/W Update Now Processing. Please do not turn off the power."
Front panel message: "CD-UP"

7. On-screen message #4: "Sub F/W Update Now Processing. Please do not turn off the power."
Front panel message: "CD-UP"

8. After 11-1/2 minutes, the disc automatically ejected and the power automatically turned off.

***************

These are the changes I've noted so far. Note that I have not played a BD yet.

1. Test tones work properly now (but only for PCM; they don't work at all for Bitstream).

2. I get DD 5.1, DTS, and PCM output.


I have no doubt that DNeily can indeed do the above in 11-1/2 minutes.
I also have no doubt it would take me more like 11-1/2 days and the blankin' thing probably still wouldn't work.
So I'm waiting for the whole HD-DVD issue to settle down, and when I see one ready to go at Sams' Club for about $200 that everybody admits will work without requiring a doctorate in Computer Science, I will buy one.

Nat Hill IV

I called Samsung again today in an attempt to find out exactly what this firmware fixes.... The guy I talked to was not sure. I was placed on hold a couple times and when he came back he suggested this could be the firmware that was suppose to be due by the end of this month, which would mean it has the DNR chip turned off. I must caution that he made it very clear that he wasn't sure. Take this for what its worth....
I also called Samsung today. I received a firmware update at the beginning of the month in the mail. I do not know what it did I saw no differences or pq differences from it. The tech I spoke to today said it was the latest out including the download now out. He also did not know what it actually did. He did check and said the chip fix download was comming the last week of the month. Se Le Vie.

5) The player is now a fully Region A coded player... can't play my Fox region B discs anymore (i have some check discs for testing and review). I'm getting a screenshot similar to the one of RCE protected DVD's... :(

Paolo
Can you confirm this yet Centro???? Some may want to bypass this firmware in order to keep it a region free BD player.

I'm running component through Kim's superb transcoder to my NEC 6PG+ that was calibrated and set up by NEC guru Doug Baisey on a 106" screen.

I need to do more viewing before I say the picture is really better though. I'll check the one film that really seemed excessively soft on my Samsung, T2.


OK, I watched selected scenes AB'ing with the SD-DVD, and my results are: maybe sharper. The BD T2 still is not dramatically superior to the SD-DVD, and I'm sure Lionsgate will release yet another T2 with the deleted scenes restored, but I thought I observed a little bit better sharpness in some scenes. It's tough to tell without matching a firmware upgraded Samsung AB'd to a non-updated Samsung.

this is not the NR update because things are going exactly like Samsung has said, which William confirmed, DTS and other fixes, NR update coming soon end of month

I am glad Samsung is fixing all these issues, sounds great, now if I could only get my Sammy, damn Fedex :mad:

-Gary

The DNR update and java update will be the last week of OCT as first announced this announcement of current fix is speculation as per samsung reps if you can rely on them ?

Can you confirm this yet Centro???? Some may want to bypass this firmware in order to keep it a region free BD player.

Yes i'm sure. Fox Blu-ray titles have all the regional code enabled (while Sony titles are still region free) and since i have updated the firmware on the Samsung i can't play them anymore... with Fox discs i had to set regional code also on the drive and the windvd bd copy of a Sony Vaio PC i'm testing...

All of this sucks pretty bad... if you want a region free BD player then don't update the samsung firmware!!!

Ciao, Paolo

The DNR update and java update will be the last week of OCT as first announced this announcement of current fix is speculation as per samsung reps if you can rely on them ?
Thats the problem... you cant. Correct me if Im wrong but the DTS firmware fix they shipped you did not change the colored dots??? Leaving me to believe this is a different firmware.
http://www.homemediaretailing.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=9821
If this link is correct, than THIS is that firmware.

Yes i'm sure. Fox Blu-ray titles have all the regional code enabled (while Sony titles are still region free) and since i have updated the firmware on the Samsung i can't play them anymore... with Fox discs i had to set regional code also on the drive and the windvd bd copy of a Sony Vaio PC i'm testing...

All of this sucks pretty bad... if you want a region free BD player then don't update the samsung firmware!!!

Ciao, Paolo
Thanks Cento!!!

If an NR update is coming what happens if you wait to update? Will you have to update twice or will it be all new firmware again?
No point in doing this twice if you can wait.

If an NR update is coming what happens if you wait to update? Will you have to update twice or will it be all new firmware again?
No point in doing this twice if you can wait.
Going by Samsungs history of no firmaware for 4 months and now 2 firmwares in 2 weeks??? I really think this is the one and only firmware.

I just applied the update and Fifth Element's PQ was definately way better. Where it looked very poor before it now looks good.

Audio thru the HDMI cable also was much better.

It's possible that the DNR algorithm of the Genesis chip produces different levels of artifacts (like image softness) based on the source signal content. For instance, a very clean signal to start might receive minimal processing look relatively unchanged, whereas a noisy signal (like the 5th E) might be rendered much softer and more processed looking in comparison to the same signal without DNR.

My old ProScan TV had DNR that worked this way... good stuff looked sharp and detailed, but noisy signals seemed to overtax the DNR algorithm and ended up looking much worse by comparison.

In other words, the algorithm didn't introduce the same artifacts on all signals... it seemed to get worse the noisier the source signal was.

Dave your the only one who seems to get this, and i'm in total agreement that this is the most likely of situations with the BDP-1000

non-linear concepts seem lost on many AVSers these days...

;)

I just got a disc in the mail today from Samsung. Im assuming its the DTS fix I ordered 2 weeks ago. Is there any way I can use my computer to compare the file size? Im a little worried to try it in the Sammy... Dont want to screw up anything!!!

That IMGBURN software did the trick. updating now. Thanks.

I just got a disc in the mail today from Samsung. Im assuming its the DTS fix I ordered 2 weeks ago. Is there any way I can use my computer to compare the file size? Im a little worried to try it in the Sammy... Dont want to screw up anything!!!
Checked it out on the computer and its 49,152kb. Looks a little smaller than the other firmware. Guess I will disregard it.

Just finished my upgrade. Popped in a disc and I think the PQ is definitely better. And I have the dots instead of the hourglass so I know it worked.

non-linear concepts seem lost on many AVSers these days...

;)


:rolleyes:

got the Sammy today finally, really like it, checked things out before the update, after the update the unit is much better for sure, in everyway, load times, response time, picture quality

can't wait for that NR fix, that is the only issue I have with the Sammy right now

-Gary

I'm from Italy , on October 17th Sony has released here 6 Blu Ray titles:

HITCH
A KNIGHT'S TALE
SWAT
UNDERWORLD EVOLUTION
THE EXHORCISM OF EMILY ROSE
HOSTEL

Today I bought all of them and compared with the USA versions of

HITCH
A KNIGHT'S TALE
SWAT
UNDERWORLD EVOLUTION

I had already bought on amazon; I own the USA Samsung player, even if in Italy the REGION B model is now on sale. The discs are exactly the same USA versions with an added Italian Dolby Digital track, but all of the have the USA original english 5.1 track.

I'll not upgrade the firmware to have the chance of reading all the discs, american and Italian ones. Maybe if on oct 31 I'll read on this forum that the new firmware fixing the DNR problem gives a real improvement, I'll consider to buy also the Italian Region B player (but I think I'll gon on Panasonic) and upgrade my Samsung to Region A.

For the users who have not upgraded their player yet, the picture quality of THE EXHORCISM OF EMILY ROSE and HOSTEL is very good and are worth the purchase, even if they are not on sale in USA; you can buy the italian version even if Labelel "B" and play it on your players.

Mods, I think it would be a good idea to sticky this. I'm sure there are Samsung owners who don't frequent the board much. It will prevent a lot of "When is the update coming?" threads.

2 more questions about the firmware:

1) has anyone tested to edit the files and discover where the region code is being set? Maybe a new modded firmware could be done to leave the player as region free

2)
Has anyone seen any noticeable picture quality improvement in Blu Ray disc playing after the update?

thanks to all

Hello: It would be smart for someone to call Samsung and ask them what does the firmware do instead of all this speculation and waste of one's time wondering. I will call on monday and make inquiry if someone else does not proceed me.

Hello: It would be smart for someone to call Samsung and ask them what does the firmware do instead of all this speculation and waste of one's time wondering. I will call on monday and make inquiry if someone else does not proceed me.
If you look back in this thread you will see some of us had and they do not have a clue. Except to state this is not the sharpness fix.

my guess is that this update is from overseas and communication is lacking at Samsung, seen it many times before :(

it doesn't matter, this update drastically improves the Sammy, slap it in and enjoy! :)

-Gary

If you look back in this thread you will see some of us had and they do not have a clue. Except to state this is not the sharpness fix.
Yes... Ive called numerous times as Im sure others have too!!!

my guess is that this update is from overseas and communication is lacking at Samsung, seen it many times before :(

it doesn't matter, this update drastically improves the Sammy, slap it in and enjoy! :)

-Gary
Your absolutely right Gary. Last time I called the guy said the details were all in Korean!!! Maybe someone can call from over there?

http://samsung.com/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select2.aspx?type=Blu%2Dray&subtype=Blu%2Dray+Disc+Player&model=BD%2DP1000&fileType=FM&LSSI=%2Finclude%2FSSI%2Fus%5Fleft%2FLMenu%5FBlu%5Fray%5FBlu% 5FrayDiscPlayer%2Esec&RSSI=%2Finclude%2FSSI%2Fus%5Fright%2FRMenu%5FBlu%5Fray%2Esec
Found by jivc79...

Firmware fixes:

Dts "judder" problem fixed
Allows 4:3 pillarboxing (BD material only)
Improved load times
Changes hour glass to "colored dots"
Corrects analog outs, if reversed
Allows playback of BD-R/BD-RE discs
Improved PQ of BD and DVD playback
Parental control problem fixed
Fixes HDMI compatability problems with certain displays
Loses region free abilities

It was only after the FW that I was able to select the 1080P......was only allowed up to 1080i prior to this.

any korean folks on here ? :D

-Gary

Improved PQ of BD and DVD playback

Where is this list of fixes coming from? If this one is real than what some of us are seeing is not just wish fulfillment...

Just watched Underworld: Evolution again and the picture did indeed look a bit sharper. I'm very happy with this upgrade.

Thats the problem... you cant. Correct me if Im wrong but the DTS firmware fix they shipped you did not change the colored dots??? Leaving me to believe this is a different firmware.
http://www.homemediaretailing.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=9821
If this link is correct, than THIS is that firmware.
you are correct I still have dotss and hourglass, I really never use dts as I use direct analog or uncompressed HDMI. But tech said noise and jave due last week of month

I just did the upgrade. It went very smooth, very easy, no problems at all. Now I can record video on my HD camcorder, edit it on my Sony Vaio, burn it to a BD disk and play it back in the Samsung. Until today I could not do that, so the upgrade was worth its weight in gold!

Picture quality looks the same to me, but I have not had any complaints about pq with the Samsung and I also own the Toshiba (I have been arguing that there is no difference in quality between the two, just in the software being viewed).

No difference in audio quality that I can detect either, and here too I have been very happy with the Samsung audio.

Startup is ever so slightly faster, but nothing to hardly even mention.

So, the main difference as far as I can see is the ability to view blu ray disks recorded from my Sony Vaio.

I just did the upgrade. It went very smooth, very easy, no problems at all. Now I can record video on my HD camcorder, edit it on my Sony Vaio, burn it to a BD disk and play it back in the Samsung. Until today I could not do that, so the upgrade was worth its weight in gold!

Picture quality looks the same to me, but I have not had any complaints about pq with the Samsung and I also own the Toshiba (I have been arguing that there is no difference in quality between the two, just in the software being viewed).

No difference in audio quality that I can detect either, and here too I have been very happy with the Samsung audio.

Startup is ever so slightly faster, but nothing to hardly even mention.

So, the main difference as far as I can see is the ability to view blu ray disks recorded from my Sony Vaio.

Just curious do you still get the hour glass and dots during transition? I had updated direct from Samsung a couple of weeks ago and I stillget those.

I'm a little confused. I thought you could only have either the hourglass OR the dots, not both.

Just curious do you still get the hour glass and dots during transition? I had updated direct from Samsung a couple of weeks ago and I stillget those.
No William. The firmware you got is slightly smaller in size and older than the firmware on the Samsung site.

what about the Samsung vs Panasonic BD10 comparison after Samsung firmware update?

No William. The firmware you got is slightly smaller in size and older than the firmware on the Samsung site.
Thanks I guess I will try to update, I might just wait for the so called final one next week.

Thanks I guess I will try to update, I might just wait for the so called final one next week.
I think this is the final firmware.... I guess we will know for sure next week.

Shamus has it been confirmed that the NR issue has been taken care off and that the java is enable?

Shamus has it been confirmed that the NR issue has been taken care off and that the java is enable?

Nope... Last time I called they said it was but untill there is an official announcement I cant really believe any thing Samsungs customer service tells me.

Nope... Last time I called they said it was but untill there is an official announcement I cant really believe any thing Samsungs customer service tells me.
That is so true. I have never been so misinformed or misslead by a company in my long life. Sometimes it might be worth a class action suit on this whole matter. Imagine a company with such bad communication and training on something so new and important not knowing what the left hand and right hand are doing and doling out such a mess on missinformation and lack of information. Un real.

I apologize if this has already been covered, but some posters indicate the firmware changes hourglass to colored dots. My player has always had the colored dots. Where does that leave me? Is the update not needed?

I apologize if this has already been covered, but some posters indicate the firmware changes hourglass to colored dots. My player has always had the colored dots. Where does that leave me? Is the update not needed?
I would do it anyways.. If it is the same firmware that is already in the player, I believe the player will tell you.

I apologize if this has already been covered, but some posters indicate the firmware changes hourglass to colored dots. My player has always had the colored dots. Where does that leave me? Is the update not needed?

If you have a player with a later build date (mine was August) you will already have had SOME fixes installed with the new build (change to dots, 4:3 pillarboxing). However, I still needed it for the DTS fix and probably the other things listed. When you run the FW update you will get a comparison screen with the current and new firmware numbers for your comparison. You will most likely see they are different, so go ahead with the update.

Is it true that the picture quality of upconverting of standard DVDs is much improved by the newer firmware and that upconversion quality is now much closer to that of the Toshiba HD DVD player?

Is it true that the picture quality of upconverting of standard DVDs is much improved by the newer firmware and that upconversion quality is now much closer to that of the Toshiba HD DVD player?

I just finished watching Over the Hedge on the Sammy, and it looked great. It does seem alot sharper and the contrast is better.

If you have a player with a later build date (mine was August) you will already have had SOME fixes installed with the new build (change to dots, 4:3 pillarboxing). However, I still needed it for the DTS fix and probably the other things listed. When you run the FW update you will get a comparison screen with the current and new firmware numbers for your comparison. You will most likely see they are different, so go ahead with the update.

Thanks; mine was July I believe.

Yep, definitely run the update!

Is it true that the picture quality of upconverting of standard DVDs is much improved by the newer firmware and that upconversion quality is now much closer to that of the Toshiba HD DVD player?
Other than the blue dots and hourglass changing to the colored dots, this is the first and most obvious thing I noticed. DVDs look great on it now. (I'm using HDMI, going to a SharpVision DLP 720p projector).

So, the main difference as far as I can see is the ability to view blu ray disks recorded from my Sony Vaio.

Which VAIO and BR burner?

I'm looking at the VGN-AR270BR.

I hate to sound stupid but I an not too computer savy just A/V. I cannot seem to get the Sammy download to disc. Anyone out there care to put the step by step instructions into laymans terms. Thanks

william did you unzip it to iso first?

Here's some instructions from the HTF:

Software Update Procedure for BD-P1000

INTRODUCTION:

This manual describes the S/W update procedure for BD-P1000. Please follow the below procedure. If you have any problems during S/W updating, please contact the Samsung Service Call Center.

HOW TO MAKE AN UPDATE CD

Burn the downloaded file onto a blank CD-R or CD-RW disc, following the below procedures:

1) Download the software update file from the Samsung internet site
2) If the update file is compressed (*.zip/rar), the file should be uncompressed before burning.
3) You must burn the update file on a blank CD-R/W disc by using the "Burn image" option. (Ref. "Recorder" menu>"Burn Image" if you're using Nero Burning ROM)
4) Burn the image file of the software update file (*.iso)

NOTICE:

> Recommended CD burning program
- Nero Burning ROM
> Burning options (if using Nero)
- "Recorder" menu>"Burn Image">select an uncompressed image file of the software update file (*.iso)
- Please check "Finalize CD (No further writing possible)"
- Please refer to your own CD burning program manual if you want to use any other CD burning program for burning the ISO image file.
> Make sure the downloaded software is eligible for your BD-P1000 (e.g. CD image file name: XXXXXX_XX_BDP1000XAA.iso)
> The software update will not be executed if using an update CD which is not made with the above procedures.

UPDATE PROCEDURE:

WARNING
IMPORTANT: Please read the below notice before updating your unit.

The following events may interrupt the update process and MAY RESULT IN PERMANENT DAMAGE TO THE UNIT WHILE UPDATING.

a) Unplugging the power cord
b) Power Outage
c) Dirt or scratches on the disc
d) Opening the disc tray during processing.

PROCEDURE

1) Press OPEN/CLOSE to open the disc tray
2) Insert the update CD with the software update, label facing up
3) Press OPEN/CLOSE to close the disc tray.
- View the monitor and after checking the old and new version numbers select "Yes" or "No" with "<" or ">" on the remote control. If you select "No", the BD-P1000 will be powered off after ejecting the tray.
* The version is indicated by "YYMMDD xx"
* If you don't see the message above, try another disc. Generally this is caused by disc quality or a disc creating problem.
4) Press the ENTER button on the remote control
- You will see "CD-UP" on the FLT display
- TV screen displays "Main F/W Update, now processing, please do not turn off the power.
5) It takes about 14-15 minutes to complete the update. The message "Main F/W has been updated successfully." will be displayed on the screen after the update is complete and the tray will open automatically. Do not turn the unit off, it will shutdown automatically.

* If the "Main F/W has been updated successfully" message does not appear on the screen after 16 minutes and the unit is no longer functioning properly, contact a Samsung Authorized Service Center.

6) After removing the update disc (make sure the unit has powered off automatically), turn on the unit with the Power button. The display will show the Menu Languages within a few seconds. Select the language you want with a corresponding number button.
The flash update is now completed.

Has anyone recieved an update disc from samsung,I have no way of burning my own,and was wondering if they send out disc? I called them and the guy didn't seem to really know what I was talking about,and said no they don't send out update discs,the only way to get it is to download it from thw website! Is this true? Any help would appreciated,Thank you, Jim

Has anyone recieved an update disc from samsung,I have no way of burning my own,and was wondering if they send out disc? I called them and the guy didn't seem to really know what I was talking about,and said no they don't send out update discs,the only way to get it is to download it from thw website! Is this true? Any help would appreciated,Thank you, Jim

Too bad their CSR's aren't better trained or informed. They list on their website a link to sign up for the software updates...so that person is incorrect. Some have mentioned in previous posts in their thread that they had to talk to a "level 2" CSR, so that maybe the key.

If you would like I burned a copy to CD-R and would be happy to send you that copy. Just PM me your address and I'll pop it in the mail on Monday.

Ron

Bill Hunt from the digitalbits has just confirm that this firmware fixes the Genesis Chip and adds Java interactivity.

"Also today, Samsung has finally issued their first official public firmware update for the BD-P1000 Blu-ray Disc player. You can find it here at this link on their website. It corrects the Genesis chip issue and adds functionality for new BD Java features among other things. "

So this is it.. This is the firmware...

So the FW Bill is referring to IS the same one we downloaded last week? Is that correct?

Yes..

So the FW Bill is referring to IS the same one we downloaded last week? Is that correct?
I told you guys it was!!! Although, the Samsung firmware shows it was updated yesterday... I redownloaded it and it appears to be the same thing.

Yep, pulled it down, burned the disc. Firmware versions are the same from last week. Looks like they only updated the file to a .zip from a .rar. ISO file date is still 10/13. So, did the NR get Fixed?

Thanks. I really didn't think they would release another firmware within a 10 day span.

But it looks like the NR Chip fix isn't there still. Any idea on when that update will hit?

Yep, pulled it down, burned the disc. Firmware versions are the same from last week. Looks like they only updated the file to a .zip from a .rar. ISO file date is still 10/13. So, did the NR get Fixed?
I think it was fixed since they first put it up there. This explains the better PQ people have been reporting. But from talking to Samsung I believe the DNR was only switched from high to medium... not off!!! When I called customer service it sounded like he was reading it off a preprinted card... I belive him simply because telling me it was set to medium is just something these guys wouldnt know!

Since Bill didn't state a direct confirmation through Samsung...I wonder if he heard 2nd hand that was the case and stated it as fact?

Though I've pretty much have Punisher memorized in a couple of scenes (this was one title that disappointed me), my eyes said it did look better after the firmware since I used that as my comparison. Played a chapter before and after the update. But I can't say that I was swayed by all the talk of a better picture.

OK, cool. Thanks for calling. I just wanted to confirm things are as they should be from Samsung. I will say that Monster House looks good.

Since Bill didn't state a direct confirmation through Samsung...I wonder if he heard 2nd hand that was the case and stated it as fact?

Though I've pretty much have Punisher memorized in a couple of scenes (this was one title that disappointed me), my eyes said it did look better after the firmware since I used that as my comparison. Played a chapter before and after the update. But I can't say that I was swayed by all the talk of a better picture.
I feel it has better PQ. I assume its not night and day or else Samsung would of left it off in the first place.

OK, cool. Thanks for calling. I just wanted to confirm things are as they should be from Samsung. I will say that Monster House looks good.
I havent seen Monster House yet(still in its package), but wait till you see MI3!!!!! "tear from eye drops down"

One point to add was the comments from WSR this month. They said in several articles quoting Samsung as turning down the NR chip would create a "slightly sharper picture"...so it would seem they were preparing the public for a less dramatic increase in sharpness....almost downplaying the change

The smart thing for Samsung to do would be to make NR an option in the Setup menu so the user can choose between Off, Low, Medium and High.

Bill Hunt from the digitalbits has just confirm that this firmware fixes the Genesis Chip and adds Java interactivity.

"Also today, Samsung has finally issued their first official public firmware update for the BD-P1000 Blu-ray Disc player. You can find it here at this link on their website. It corrects the Genesis chip issue and adds functionality for new BD Java features among other things. "

So this is it.. This is the firmware...

the same Bill Hunt that said the Samsung was to blame for poor early titles like Fifth Element? the same guy that said that HDMI output of the Samsung was the problem and to use component

Samsung has said this wasn't the NR update, who knows if it is, but why did that HD news website remove that from their article? and why has Samsung said that there will be 2 updates, 1 for DTS and various other fixes and 1 for Java and NR

this is so confusing :mad:

maybe this is the firmware, who knows, I have been 100% pleased with every BR title so far that I own except mainly that joke of a release that is Jay and Silent Bob(looks like a upconvert) and somewhat dissapointed by Fifth Element and it's massive NR: mad:

only time will tell

-Gary

Gary, I got the DTS fix in the mail from Samsung and its a smaller file size than the newer one.

I think the picture looks a little better, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the complete firmware. I do agree with Gary that the real problem has been mediocre software, and not the Sammy per se. Even before the firmware, good titles like CORPSE BRIDE looked fine. They just look a tad crisper now. It would be nice if Sammy would tell us whether this is the Genesis fix or not.

I'm writing an BDMV authoring software which can then output all content to BD-RE disc. Before updating this firmware, BD-P1000 can accept my home-made disc and playback well, but after updating the firmware, it fails, just says "Can not playback this disc." I also own a commercial title "Firewall", has the same problem (reject after firmware update.) After calling Samsung for technical support, nobody can explain to me what's been updated for this fail. Any idea?

I doubt the NR has been turned off yet. I watched MI3 on both formats last night, and the Blu-ray looks softer than the HD DVD even with the new Samsung firmware.

I doubt the NR has been turned off yet. I watched MI3 on both formats last night, and the Blu-ray looks softer than the HD DVD even with the new Samsung firmware.
What about medium?

I believe this firmware IS the one that was promised, fixing PQ and adding BD-J. From Samsung's BD Microsite, go to "Samsung Blu-Ray Disc Player", then click "Support": http://product.samsung.com/bluray/index.html

Upgrade the Firmware of your BD-P1000 Player for a higher quality picture and enhanced capabilities.From there, you can either download the existing firmware or have a CD mailed to you.

Finally got the download, Loaded in thee stages Hour glass gone not sure of what else at this point. Watched Monster House, Was excellent PQ, do not know if this had anything to do with firmware or just an excellent transfer. Seems load times and other operating procedures are faster. Istill do not think this was the java or genesis download though according to Samsung.

Almost the 31st which Samsung said was release for 2nd update, anyone want to bug them ? :D

I really think we haven't seen the Java and NR update yet!

-Gary

I called Samsung and spoke to the customer service rep. who asked their techs. and he said that the 10/25/06 release was THE release and did not know of anymore upgrades.

thanks raneil, as always Samsung gives conflicting info from whoever you speak to

maybe we will get a official statement soon? :(

-Gary

thanks raneil, as always Samsung gives conflicting info from whoever you speak to

maybe we will get a official statement soon? :(

-Gary
Yes they do Gary. Its a shame they dont have better customer service compared to Toshiba... stuff like that means a lot to me.
Im convinced this is the new firmware and that the DNR chip has been set from high to medium... instead of off.

i downloaded 20061020152156328_ISO_bdp1000_xaa_061011_01.zip, unzipped it, burned the bdp1000_xaa_061011_01.ISO (52,79 MB) image to CD-RW using Nero, opened the tray, inserted the disc, pressed two times YES and for last 90 minutes the display says
Sub F/W Update
Now, Processing...
Please, do not turn off the power.
Does anyone know how long it could take? I planned to go on holidays this friday.

Regards

Holli

i downloaded 20061020152156328_ISO_bdp1000_xaa_061011_01.zip, unzipped it, burned the bdp1000_xaa_061011_01.ISO (52,79 MB) image to CD-RW using Nero, opened the tray, inserted the disc, pressed two times YES and for last 90 minutes the display says
Sub F/W Update
Now, Processing...
Please, do not turn off the power.
Does anyone know how long it could take? I planned to go on holidays this friday.

Regards

Holli

It only took about 15 minutes or less for mine only had to press yes once. seems you have a problem I would call Sammy Tech before I did anything else.

10 minutes for me.

i pulled the plug after about three hours and the first message that appeared after restart was "Update cancelled". Hard to kill system. No more CD-RW. I'm trying CD-R right now.

besides the hourglass switched to dots, i can now use 1080p with the samsung. With the original firmware only 480p, 720p and 1080i was available. 1080p was grey.
I don't think that is an advantage, because i read that it goes down to 540 to "make" 1080p.

besides the hourglass switched to dots, i can now use 1080p with the samsung. With the original firmware only 480p, 720p and 1080i was available. 1080p was grey.

1080p was always possible, but the player disables that option unless it can confirm 1080p in the display during the HDMI handshake. Most likely there was some compatibility problem with your TV screwing up the handshake that this firmware resolved.

I don't think that is an advantage, because i read that it goes down to 540 to "make" 1080p.

Not exactly. The decoder chip outputs 1080i and the Faroudja chip deinterlaces it to 1080p.

Holli I think the Samsung Genesis does a correct job in deinterlacing 1080i to 1080p

lots of people reported the Samsung not sending 1080p to the DVDO VPX0's with the original firmware, they had to have tweaked something in the latest firmware regarding the HDMI output because lots of those issues have vanished

I'd give anything if the Toshibas had a nice stable HDMI output like the Sammy does :mad:

-Gary

Just got an email from Samsung listing the fixes for the frimware upgrade:

This firmware update applies the following improvements:
Enhanced compatibility and performance with new BD-Java titles
Sharper picture with a modified noise reduction filter setting
Reduced Blu-ray disc load time by 4-5 seconds
Option to view 4:3 content on Blu-ray discs in 4:3 aspect ration
No video stuttering while viewing movies with DTS soundtracks
Fixes reversed speaker test tones in certain units
Changes hourglass icon to colored dots

It appears that this is the fix originally scheduled for 10/31 but released earlier.

I got the same email too. I double checked the site and the firmware 1.0 is still listed as the current firmware update. So we now know.

At least it's nice to know that we weren't seeing things, or crazy.... at least not for that reason...

So what is the consensus on which output looks better after upgrade-Component or HDMI?

I got the email, too. So this means that there is only one firmware update, correct?

Checked it out on the computer and its 49,152kb. Looks a little smaller than the other firmware. Guess I will disregard it.


Just picked up the new HD-A2 and also the BD-P1000 at Crutchfield's,am going to try them on the various HDTV's in the house over the weekend to see which performs the best.One will stay and of course one goes back(Crutchfields is a great place to get you gear--Great sales staff) While checking out it came up that there was a upgrade disc for the Samsung,but of course they didn't have it,I am sure not a fault of Crutchfields,told them I would just download it and burn it to a disc and do the upgrade that way(that way I can also see before and after).I have read of various different file sizes but not on as large as the one I burned last night---11.0 MB (11,607,133 bytes)--as anyone gotten a file this large?

It seems like mine was larger. I still have the disc I will cheack it out.

You are right it is larger,forgot to unzip it comes in unzipped just short of 53mb

There is a new firmware upgrade listed at the Samsung site with a date of 12/17, but it still has a version 1.0 attached to it. Is this new?

Someone in the Samsung ownership thread said it's the same as the one released in October.

AI am sorry if I am repeating this, but, once the update has completed, is there a way to go back and just check the FW version. Is it buried in a submenu somewhere or can I get it by pressing a combination of buttons?

AI am sorry if I am repeating this, but, once the update has completed, is there a way to go back and just check the FW version. Is it buried in a submenu somewhere or can I get it by pressing a combination of buttons?

I believe you hold down the info button on the remote and it will display the appropriate information. I think you have to hold the button for at least 3-5 seconds if my memory serves me right. If that does not work, check the manual.