I don't know if this is referring to the firmware update many of us Samsung owners have already downloaded or if it is a second one, but here is the email I just received from Samsung:

We are pleased to inform you that Samsung is providing a firmware upgrade for Samsung's
BD-P1000 Blu-ray disc player.

This firmware update applies the following improvements:

Enhanced compatibility and performance with new BD-Java titles
Sharper picture with a modified noise reduction filter setting
Reduced Blu-ray disc load time by 4-5 seconds
Option to view 4:3 content on Blu-ray discs in 4:3 aspect ration
No video stuttering while viewing movies with DTS soundtracks
Fixes reversed speaker test tones in certain units
Changes hourglass icon to colored dots

This upgrade is available free of charge to consumers via the following methods:

As a download on Samsung's support center:
www.samsung.com/support
As a download on Samsung's Blu-ray micro-site: www.samsung.com/bluray
Or on firmware discs available upon request by calling Samsung Customer Service at: (800) SAMSUNG
The firmware upgrade is needed only for previously shipped BD-P1000 Blu0ray players. For new production, this firmware update has been applied at the factory since the recent release of BD Java titles.

Please note that all Samsung BD-P1000 players - including players sold since US market launch this Spring - are compatible with movies to be released on dual-layer (50G) BD-ROM discs from this Fall.

The website link they refer you to says 1.0 so apparently the one released was it...

The Firmware was updated on 10/26 but it still say that it is Firmware 1.0 but they added the NR setting to change to med not high. I did my updated on 10/23 and then I called and they said that they updated the Firmware on 10/26 with the NR change it looks better not great but more updates to come.

The Firmware was updated on 10/26 but it still say that it is Firmware 1.0 but they added the NR setting to change to med not high. I did my updated on 10/23 and then I called and they said that they updated the Firmware on 10/26 with the NR change it looks better not great but more updates to come.

I ordered the disc from Samsung's website. Still deciding on whether or not I will go with the Samsung(most likely refurbed or off ebay)or await eventual price drops on the Panny and eventually Sony players. I will be busy with my Xbox Add-On so no rush on the Blu Ray. If I can snag a PS3, will most likely hold off on the stand-alone players until the 2nd generation players are released or until a 1st generation Panny or Sony can be had for around $500.00. :cool:

I just download the firmware dated 10/26, created the CD from that iso file and compared it to the CD created from the 10/17 release and the files are exactly the same. Same names, dates and file sizes.

Umm, but did you do a bit for bit comparison between the two files? If all they did between these two files is change the filter bit, then there will likely be only one byte difference between the two files - so same file size.

sqlb - you were right, they are the same files. I did a binary compare using a software utility and there are no differences.

Then why does it reload the firmware if you put the disc in the Samsung? I just did the email firmware download tonight. I had done the other firmware last week.

I did the update and it changed the firmware and sub firmware. It did not change the disc loader.

weird!!

-Gary

the 2 files have a hour difference in the created date, the 10/13 version 10/13/06 8:06AM, the 10/26 version 10/13/06 9:06AM

:D

-Gary

and remember, this firmware will enable region coding on BD discs in the Sammy. Probably not a big deal to many but kinda sneaky the way they slipped it in....

I'm confused. So, basically, if I already uploaded the original firmware update, I don't need to do this one?

I would re-download and re-install. I did the original download like on the 18th.
I caught wind there might have been changes yesterday so i redownloaded and burned another CD.

This morning I loaded it up. It continued to install new updates.

The player accepted new updates to the "Main Firmware"

The "Loader Firmware" did not update, it said something like same version.

Then the player accepted new updates to the "Sub Firmware"

Now, I don't know what changed, but it did update something, so this is most likely the NR off portion of the FW updates.

My picture looks great, I'll follow up if I notice anything differen't.

This firmware update improvement doesn't mention anything about being able to process the new Blu-ray Disc release of X-Men: The Last Stand on 11/14 that is expected to feature DTS HD 6.1 audio. :(

This firmware update improvement doesn't mention anything about being able to process the new Blu-ray Disc release of X-Men: The Last Stand on 11/14 that is expected to feature DTS HD 6.1 audio. :(Since the Samsung does not offer support for DTS-HD MA decoding, the best that can be expected is for the player to decode the lossy DTS "core" stream that is part of HD MA, if I understand this correctly. But at least the firmware update addresses the "frame drop" glitch when using DTS discs, so you can watch the video without any stuttering or glitching.

I would re-download and re-install. I did the original download like on the 18th.
I caught wind there might have been changes yesterday so i redownloaded and burned another CD.

This morning I loaded it up. It continued to install new updates.

The player accepted new updates to the "Main Firmware"

The "Loader Firmware" did not update, it said something like same version.

Then the player accepted new updates to the "Sub Firmware"

Now, I don't know what changed, but it did update something, so this is most likely the NR off portion of the FW updates.

My picture looks great, I'll follow up if I notice anything differen't.

Thanks for the info, Brian. I just ordered the disc from Samsung Customer Service.



Since the Samsung does not offer support for DTS-HD MA decoding, the best that can be expected is for the player to decode the lossy DTS "core" stream that is part of HD MA, if I understand this correctly. But at least the firmware update addresses the "frame drop" glitch when using DTS discs, so you can watch the video without any stuttering or glitching.

So, no legacy DD 5.1 on X3?

So, no legacy DD 5.1 on X3?I don't believe so.

Downloaded and ran the update. Though they are both listed as "1.0" there are two new filenames that I noticed. :rolleyes: Can't they just call it 1.1?

The good news: I watched T2 for the third time and I am finally impressed! For the first time it looked like HD and not just slightly better than the DVD (though I no longer have the SD version to compare a third time).

With the new upgrade, I would find it hard pressed to recommend the Panasonic for those on a budget...

I just picked the player up today, so how do I tell if it has the new firmware or not?

I uploaded the firmware also, Terminator 1 looked so sweet last night, and the PCM sound oh boy, just noticed 1 instance of posterization, which I have seen on HD-DVD's also, I don't think posterization is related to the compression on either format

the firmware does take, the loader doesn't update, I think this is a different update gents ;)

Fifth Element looked a little better, this was before I was thinking the firmware was newer so no placebo :D

-Gary

the firmware is most certainly different, I recently watched Into the blue with the first update, pretty good image, I just looked at it, fine detail is certainly improved, those that are fimiliar with the player and that movie, look at the scene where Walker and Caan meet the drug lord in the boat

this is exactly what I was looking for and expected from the update, just a pinch more fine detail to be shown, not a drastic difference, but there, who knows if this is even completely off or not? it is certainly better whatever happened

thanks Samsung, Methos download it, burn it and slap it in ;)

there is no way your player you just bought will have this latest version of 1.00, not possible ;)

-Gary

Are you guys saying the firmware from last week is different from yesterdays firmware???????

yesterday ?

are we talking a third update ?

-Gary

yesterday ?

are we talking a third update ?

-Gary
Not sure... Im going by the one from the Email. I think you may be on to something Gary. I just tried the new firmware and everything appears to look slightly sharper. Sorry to have doubted you!!! I thought no way would this be different from the one 2 weeks ago.

So basically anyone with the Samsung, including ones that were just bought off the shelves, should get this current firmware to get the NR turned off, yes?

Should tell everybody that. :cool:

Probably no legacy support for DD on X3, but you can get the legacy DTS 1.5Mbps or decode that and use the analog 5.1 output.


fuad

yes guys I think this is updated for sure, the Samsung is showing more fine high frequency detail and that slightly smeary look is gone from all BR discs

I just downloaded the update again, the file was created on 10/13/06 9:06AM

the first 1.0 update put up on the website was still saved to my PC, it was created 10/13/06 8:06AM

so combined with this and the DTS fix firmware update that was shipped a while back, I think there have been 3 updates

the 2 versions of 1.0 that were on the Sammy site are different files, they may look the same, but the creation date was 1 hour later and the Samsung accepts the update and applys it

Into the Blue never looked so good, it wouldn't be anything big to non HT types, but the extra smidge of fine detail is much appreciated!

one downside, with the latest version applied(I previous had the 10/13/06 8:06AM 1.0 version) it seems the player is slower on reading the disc when inserting it and when going between menu to movie, a little slower but noticeable, on mine at least, I have been using the Sammy alot lately and thats the first thing I noticed with the newer version of 1.0

-Gary

I got my player on 10/30. This is the update I put on it on 10/31, it is dated 10-26 on Samsung's support site. Is this the latest and greatest?

http://www.samsung.com/support/productsupport/download/FileView.aspx?cttfileid=1191071&type=&typecode=201100&subtype=&subtypecode=201101&cmssubtypecode=&model=BD-P1000&filetype=FM&language=

yes guys I think this is updated for sure, the Samsung is showing more fine high frequency detail and that slightly smeary look is gone from all BR discs

I just downloaded the update again, the file was created on 10/13/06 9:06AM

the first 1.0 update put up on the website was still saved to my PC, it was created 10/13/06 8:06AM

so combined with this and the DTS fix firmware update that was shipped a while back, I think there have been 3 updates

the 2 versions of 1.0 that were on the Sammy site are different files, they may look the same, but the creation date was 1 hour later and the Samsung accepts the update and applys it

Into the Blue never looked so good, it wouldn't be anything big to non HT types, but the extra smidge of fine detail is much appreciated!

one downside, with the latest version applied(I previous had the 10/13/06 8:06AM 1.0 version) it seems the player is slower on reading the disc when inserting it and when going between menu to movie, a little slower but noticeable, on mine at least, I have been using the Sammy alot lately and thats the first thing I noticed with the newer version of 1.0

-Gary


All called 1.0.....................great job Samsung............ever heard of revision control?

The update on the Samsung site was also posted on 10/26. I will have to go home and update again. Things were looking great already. I wonder if I will notice the improvement?

The download has fixed the sharpness issue. :)

I've been reviewing Blu-ray discs from the beginning, for The Virginian-Pilot newspaper in Norfolk, VA and clearly the image is sharper. Just watched a few key scenes with T2 and 16 Blocks campared to the HD-DVD and this is the fix we've been waiting for. 16 Blocks looked just as good as the HD-DVD and T2 was much more detailed.

Everything went fine with the second downloaded CD.

GREAT JOB SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got my player on 10/30. This is the update I put on it on 10/31, it is dated 10-26 on Samsung's support site. Is this the latest and greatest?

http://www.samsung.com/support/productsupport/download/FileView.aspx?cttfileid=1191071&type=&typecode=201100&subtype=&subtypecode=201101&cmssubtypecode=&model=BD-P1000&filetype=FM&language=
I think the cost of updating is just a blank CD. If you're not sure, bite the bullet anyway and do it. If nothing else, it won't update.

Gary, too bad about the little bit of slowness but hopefully not too noticable.


fuad

Gary, I havent times it but I too thought it seemed a little slower... I will time it later.

MODS: Maybe you should change the title of this thread??? If in fact there is a difference.... which its starting to seem that way, most people already think they have the final firmware!!!
Thanks

MODS: Maybe you should change the title of this thread??? If in fact there is a difference.... which its starting to seem that way, most people already think they have the final firmware!!!
Thanks

title edited: how is that?

title edited: how is that?
Thanks Mark!!!

Gary, I havent times it but I too thought it seemed a little slower... I will time it later.

Ok, I timed it. Using Underworld Evolution(which is what I've always used). From off to disc open 27 sec. Put movie in and closed tray till Sony logo pops up... 28 sec. Exact same time as the first firmware.

Alright, I downloaded the update and made a CD from the ISO but when I put it in the player it just goes to the menu. What do I need to do to actually update the player?

Alright, I downloaded the update and made a CD from the ISO but when I put it in the player it just goes to the menu. What do I need to do to actually update the player?
????? Which menu? It should ask you about the Firmware.

Nope, It Goes To The Setup Menu.

Nope, It Goes To The Setup Menu.
Never heard that one before.... I would try reburning it.

lET ME SEE IF i AM DOING THIS RIGHT, i EXTRACTED THE dl FILE INTO A NEW FOLDER AND FROM THEIR i AM WRITING THE iso FILE TO THE DISC. ioS THIS CORRECT?

lET ME SEE IF i AM DOING THIS RIGHT, i EXTRACTED THE dl FILE INTO A NEW FOLDER AND FROM THEIR i AM WRITING THE iso FILE TO THE DISC. ioS THIS CORRECT?
Im not an expert with the computer stuff(had a friend help me).. but I do believe you have to unzip it somehow(winrar.com I think). Maybe someone else can chime in here.

The download has fixed the sharpness issue. :)

I've been reviewing Blu-ray discs from the beginning, for The Virginian-Pilot newspaper in Norfolk, VA and clearly the image is sharper. Just watched a few key scenes with T2 and 16 Blocks campared to the HD-DVD and this is the fix we've been waiting for. 16 Blocks looked just as good as the HD-DVD and T2 was much more detailed.

Everything went fine with the second downloaded CD.

GREAT JOB SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I must be missing something, I too just updated to the latest firmware (the one available on the samsung wbesite which i burned to a CD-R). However, T2 still looks very noisy/grainy to me over HDMI. Interestingly enough, over component it looks great, noise is almost completely gone (though image is a little soft).

Any ideas as to what I may be missing here??

lET ME SEE IF i AM DOING THIS RIGHT, i EXTRACTED THE dl FILE INTO A NEW FOLDER AND FROM THEIR i AM WRITING THE iso FILE TO THE DISC. ioS THIS CORRECT? Sounds like you're burning the ISO file directly to the disc, which is not what you're supposed to do.

ISO is like a Zip file, except that it is a disc-image file. Using your CD burning software, use it to OPEN the ISO file. Once it has been opened, burn that on a CD. Use that CD to update your player.


fuad

the firmware is certainly improving image quality, no placebo, I have noticed a difference on many titles, not big but much appreciated

like Fuad said

the ISO you get from the samsung zip file must be burned to a disc using a burning program, open the ISO in the program like Nero, this is a disc image

do not burn the iso directly to the disc, that won't work, it must be opened in a program

I think the unit is just a tad slower

-Gary

Just to confirm my download was last sunday the 29th of october. I just want to confirm this is the most complete. all went well no hang ups have dots no hourglass. watched monster house and eight below, looked good but still not quite up to my HD-DVD sorry BR fans. I am no fan of either just want both to produce great HD. The sammy does operate smotther and quicker but PQ still goes to Tosh for me at this poing. (I do really need to go through more of my BD software though)

Ok, color me confused. I compared the one I downloaded on the 17th to the one that is there yesterday and the ISO's are identical (according to Beyond Compare's hex comparison tool). Was there one before the 17'th on the Samsung site, or are you guys talking about the one that was only available by mail (DTS only)? As far as I can tell the only difference in the new version is they changed to a zip file instead of rar (whatever...). It is an improvement over the firmware that came with the unit without a doubt though.

Heres a thought.... Assuming the firmwares are the same, is it possible that with every installation of the firmware it turns the DNR down another notch??? I agree the firmwares look like an identical file and they still called it ver 1.0. But I also agree that the picture looks slightly sharper....

Heres a thought.... Assuming the firmwares are the same, is it possible that with every installation of the firmware it turns the DNR down another notch??? Firmwares don't work like that. If you have the latest, there's no more upgrading. It is like upgrading your virus database; if you got the latest, it won't download anymore.

I think all Samsung owners (unless they want the Samsung to remain region free and soft) should download the latest firmware and update. The cost is just a CD-R.


fuad

Firmwares don't work like that. If you have the latest, there's no more upgrading. It is like upgrading your virus database; if you got the latest, it won't download anymore.

I think all Samsung owners (unless they want the Samsung to remain region free and soft) should download the latest firmware and update. The cost is just a CD-R.


fuad
Ok.. not sure how that stuff works, but how do you explain another improvement on PQ?

Hmm - interesting. WriteSimple is of course correct, it is what it is. However, it could be that the old firmware prevents part of the new firmware from loading (thus loading it twice updates the part that would not update). So someone who has done it twice, report back on the versions (eject, then hold down info). Mine (which was loaded with the firmware on the 17th) is as follows:
LDR: 929F / Front:21
PSD: 61011.1
DMN: 060929.01 Region: 0A/01

Alright my final FW question I promise. I finally had a friend come over and burn the ISO using NERO for me, and now the player verifies and ask to update and goes through the whole 15 minute update till it gets to the Front loader the same screen goes black for few and then ejects the disk. I assume this is the whole procedure, but when I turn the player off and then on again it acts like I never upgraded and ask to to update again. Is this normal?

Dumb question, but are you removing the firmware disc from the tray before turning the player on again?

no, i just hit close again, why. If I updated I should not get the message regardless right?

I don't know if the player is that smart. In other words, every time you close the tray with the firmware CD in it, the player will ask you if you want to update, even if you have already. Take the firmware disc out and enjoy your player! :)

Alright it says that my firmware is:

LDR: 929F / Front:23
PSD: 61011.1
DMN: 060929.01 Region: 0A/01

is this correct?

is this correct? With the exception of the FRONT number, everything else look similar.

So here's another experiment with those with the latest firmware CD. Find out your current firmware. Note it down then update the firmware twice or three times. At each update, note the firmware numbers. Of course, then find out how the firmware improves the picture quality.

If you don't want to fudge with your player, use somebody else's. Go to a Best Buy or Walmart. Bring the firmware CD and a few BD titles with the "softness" issue with you. Kindly ask the salesperson if they'd mind experimenting with their demo unit and update their firmware. :D :D :D Of course, remember how to bring out the firmware version and note it down.


fuad

I just tried this with mine (downloaded and updated via what was on the Samsung site last night). There was no change in any of my numbers (not sure what "front" is or why mine is different, but it is not mentioned on the "are you sure you want to update" popup). However, there could be several reasons folks were seeing changes. Gary mentioned a time change of one hour. This could just be a windows timezone thing, or Samsung could have had the wrong version up for a day. Also, it is possible you might have to remove power to completely update the unit (sometimes things like drives only load firmware when they are turned on). Another thing I noticed was when I first loaded the firmware I thought it was worse (the first time I loaded it). Then I noticed it was in 720p (and I have a 1080i TV). Problem solved. So what can we deduce from this. I'm not sure but I would recommend the following:

1) If your firmware ISO (not zip) is dated before 10/13/2006 9:06 AM - try reburning with the latest.
2) After everything is done re-do all of the things in the setup (no disk - then menu)
3) After turning off the unit for the final time - remove power for at least 30 seconds
4) For the first few movies make sure the resolution is what you wanted (if your TV can report the input format - my Sony does on it's info screen). If it's not, pop out the disk and go back into the setup to put it the way you want (I have had to do this twice so far).

I updated the firmware yesterday and the image is definitely sharper than it was from the firmware update I did on 10/17. It was easily noticeable on the splash screen text and graphics. In fact that is the easiest way to see the improvement in sharpness while watching a movie (text and graphics). Not a huge difference but sharper. If you updated the firmware previously in mid October you should do it again. It's nice to finally see this player get some respect.

Alright my final FW question I promise. I finally had a friend come over and burn the ISO using NERO for me, and now the player verifies and ask to update and goes through the whole 15 minute update till it gets to the Front loader the same screen goes black for few and then ejects the disk. I assume this is the whole procedure, but when I turn the player off and then on again it acts like I never upgraded and ask to to update again. Is this normal?
.
It really puzzles me that of none of you who have read the above quote from methos75 told him that YOU DON'T TURN THE PLAYER OFF. :eek: In fact the directions specifically states: "DO NOT TURN THE UNIT OFF, WILL SHUTDOWN AUTOMATICALLY". After the upgrade is completed the message "MAIN F/W HAS BEEN UPDATED SUCCESSFULLY." will be shown on the display screen.

Then after removing the update disc (make sure the unit has powered off AUTOMATICALLY), turn on the unit with power button. The display will show the Menu Languages within a few seconds. : MENU LANGUAGE SELECTION - Press 1 for English, Pulsar 2 para Espanol, Touche 3 pour Francais. Select the language you want with a corresponding number button. THE FLASH UPDATE IS NOW COMPLETED.

methos75, If you don't see all of the above on the screen, you didn't do it right.

Paul

Thanks for the heads-up, Paul. Let's see what methos75 does now.

rfisher, glad to know it's working for ya.


fuad

I just received my firmware disc mailed from Samsung today and had one downloaded last night,also.Neither one of these reads.I only get the menu when I load these.

I called Samsung today and they said alot of the newer update disc will not read.They are shipping me the lastest one.

Does Samsungs info sound right?

Thanks.

Anyone notice that the latest firmware update does not allow for playback of BD-RE disks?

I just got my Samsung back from the shop today. The video noise problem is solved. My list of service requests included the DTS solving upgrade. If my deck got it, it lessens it but doesn't eliminate it. It's just smaller and less frequent now. I put in T2 first because it seemed the most affected before. I saw less and smaller in scenes I'd watched over and over before observing the judder, pre service. I'm watching the second half of Stargate in Dolby right now, confirming there is no Dolby judder, like there was in the DTS first half.

So the firmware isn't what I hoped for.

I had the hour glass & the dts issue with LGF releases, but after the firmware (yes the latest) EVERY disc now has a PQ jitter/studder simular to the dts issue.

WTF

Using a 720p set (makes no difference what rez I use, still studder) & have the output at 1080i cause it looks the best. Using Component, havn't tried HDMI, doubt that will fix it but will try it out anyways.

Doesn't matter what audio I have set. PCM-U, Dolby, dts

So firmware = PQ jitter, very nice.

Is there a way to revert back to the factory settings?

If not, bye bye Samsung. :D

^Weird I have a september build and updated my firmware both times and I have never had a Judder with DTS or DTSHD selected. I have done, T2-Total Recall & Dinosaur.

btw,

How many times can you update the player with the latest firmware?

I'm on my 3rd right now & it still accepts the disc!

First attempt,

Main = Processing
Load = Processing
Sub = Processing

Second attempt,

Main = Processing
Load = Same
Sub = Processing

Will update the 3rd. LOL

Edit

Notta. Picture looks amazing but firmware added Jitter, not removed it. Guess, I'll take it back to the store for an exchange & hope I get the hour glass model. :D

I have had this unit a week before it was initially released back in the spring. It never reached the pq of my Tosh A1. I have been very dissatisfied with Samsung and the quality and responsiveness of their customer service, it seems that they do not tell the left hand what the right is doing and vicea versa. I have received all of the current downloads and loaded them. There is a great improvement in the pQ almost up to the level of the Tosh but not quite there. I am now satisfied with the performance of this unit, but it was not worth the stress and agrivation I had to put up with. I will never buy another item from this company. My only issue was with the PQ I had none of the other problems. Hour glass did not bother me and none of the studder happened. I do not record on disc from my camera so I have no knowledge of this. I do know that Toshiba was much more organized from the beginning and handled all updates profficiently and timely with minimun stress and aggrivation that I received from Samsung. I am still waiting for the main updated from Samsung that they promised weeks ago. I only got it as a friend of mine made a cd-r for me. Thanks for nothing Samsung. I am not trying to bash just report a word of caution to those thinking of buying a Samsung unit.

Got the hour glass model :D

Didn't update the firmware yet.

Can confirm I get studder on my 720p HDTV. (Doesn't matter what audio set-up, isn't a Lionsgate issue either)

Why hasn't Samsung made this player capable for 720p HDTV's?

Will give Sammy a call Monday & if they have no fix for this (Or at least a ray of hope) I will return it & wait for the Panny, Sony, or Pioneer. :)

Any new updates for Samsung in the past week?.....
How about the FW on their website any changes from weeks before.

Can someone possibly send me the update disc? I'll pay for shipping/etc. I've called samsung twice over the last month and the disc never arrived :(

I have some extras burned for myself from the Samsung website. Be glad to mail you one.

John in GA

Thanks Jec7 but someone PM'd me just before you replied. I'm hoping this does the job as I got the Fox titles today and they're all stuttering on the dts tracks. Also, Behind Enemy Lines won't play at all so Amazon's going to send a replacement. I'll post back my thoughts when the update cd arrives.

Anyone notice that the latest firmware update does not allow for playback of BD-RE disks?

Hi, I'm having the same problem. I'm writing my own BDMV authoring tool then output to BD-RE disc. After updating to new firmware, it refuse to accept my disc. I call Samsung but nobody can answer this. I returned the updated player to Bestbuy then exchange the other one with old firmware to continue my work.

Hi, I'm having the same problem. I'm writing my own BDMV authoring tool then output to BD-RE disc. After updating to new firmware, it refuse to accept my disc. I call Samsung but nobody can answer this. I returned the updated player to Bestbuy then exchange the other one with old firmware to continue my work.

Someone in another thread suggested that Samsung decided to conform to the BD spec which calls for only copy protected disks to be played. If this is so, it royally sux!

Alright it says that my firmware is:

LDR: 929F / Front:23
PSD: 61011.1
DMN: 060929.01 Region: 0A/01

is this correct?
methos, i dont want to inconvenience you, but is there any way you can take a picture of your firmware info screen (hold info with the tray open) and post it on here? we are getting the Front:21 firmware on ours, like everyone else, and i am trying to do a bit of an experiment and would like a picture of yours for comparison. if its too much trouble i understand. thanks.

I just received an update disc from Samsung yesterday and installed it.

I can now play LXG, which I couldn't before.

The one other change that I have noticed so far is that on KOH, before the update, in some scenes the hair on characters with dark hair (Orlando Bloom and Marton Csokas) was a solid mass, whereas after the update, it looks like actual hair rather than just a solid mass. That feature was the only problem I had with KOH before, so I am delighted that it's fixed.

I. It never reached the pq of my Tosh A1. I have been very dissatisfied with Samsung and the quality and responsiveness of their customer service, it seems that they do not tell the left hand what the right is doing and vicea versa. I have received all of the current downloads and loaded them. There is a great improvement in the pQ almost up to the level of the Tosh but not quite there. .

Have to agree with Bill there......the static menu looks great now on most disks, but once the picture starts, it's clearly a step lower than the Toshiba and HD-DVD disks I have. On the whole (I have about 10 blu-ray and 20 HD-DVD's) the picture quality is better on the latter. Even my old D-VHS tapes look better. Disappointing to say the least after I had such high hopes for blu-ray (first time seen at CES 2005 on a Sony player and Qualia 004 and 006, and the demos were AMAZING!).
Anyone know if Samsung is working on v 1.1 or 2.0? Soon?

I just received an update disc from Samsung yesterday and installed it.

I can now play LXG, which I couldn't before.

The one other change that I have noticed so far is that on KOH, before the update, in some scenes the hair on characters with dark hair (Orlando Bloom and Marton Csokas) was a solid mass, whereas after the update, it looks like actual hair rather than just a solid mass. That feature was the only problem I had with KOH before, so I am delighted that it's fixed.
That must of been the DNR chip kicking in....

Got the hour glass model :D

Didn't update the firmware yet.

Can confirm I get studder on my 720p HDTV. (Doesn't matter what audio set-up, isn't a Lionsgate issue either)

Why hasn't Samsung made this player capable for 720p HDTV's?

Will give Sammy a call Monday & if they have no fix for this (Or at least a ray of hope) I will return it & wait for the Panny, Sony, or Pioneer. :)
Never had that problem, except for Lionsgate titles using DTS with the original firmware.

Have to agree with Bill there......the static menu looks great now on most disks, but once the picture starts, it's clearly a step lower than the Toshiba and HD-DVD disks I have. On the whole (I have about 10 blu-ray and 20 HD-DVD's) the picture quality is better on the latter. Even my old D-VHS tapes look better. Disappointing to say the least after I had such high hopes for blu-ray (first time seen at CES 2005 on a Sony player and Qualia 004 and 006, and the demos were AMAZING!).
Anyone know if Samsung is working on v 1.1 or 2.0? Soon?


I am more convinced than ever that right now, BD is still a notch below HD-DVD on PQ.

I own a Samsung player, but a freind owns a Panasonic and so far all BD title oddities are present on both players. :(

Actually I switched over from the HDMI output to using the component into my 62" Toshiba DLP, and it looks a little bit better than the HDMI..............surprising. Not quite up to the HD-DVD, but noticeably better. They still need to improve on the firmware........, hear that Samsung? Also on Stargate, I have to turn on the subtitles when anyone on the planet or pyramid is speaking, still can't understand ancient Egyptian, (but I'm working on it).

Noticed while the firmware version is the same, it looks like they posted it again on 12-6.06, oh well let me try it again to see if anything is different.

Nope.........same stuff just a different post date. No 1080p option either (maybe because I'm using component input now.........

I think if Samsung can't correct the chip problem with firmware, they should either replace them with Reon chips at their expense or swap any P1000's for P1200's for a minimal fee for those who want them, (assuming the P1200's don't have the chip problem). Still am watching HD-DVD's 80% of the time though the amount of disks I have in each format are about the same.
Machine or format?

is there anything in particular that provoked you to dig up a 5 month old thread?

How about waiting that long to fix a problem that they seem to have conquered on their new product? Think I've been pretty patient..................

How about waiting that long to fix a problem that they seem to have conquered on their new product? Think I've been pretty patient..................

I really do not want to read through this whole thread to understand what problem you are having, what is the issue?

Hi,

if read the recents posts in this rather old thread, but as i am also owner of a bd-p1000, eventhough its the european model, i am also having some minor problems with that player.
The problems are not so much playback issues as rather being recognition issues.
Some discs take a few attempts until the player recognies them ( i have 24 movies now, and the only movies having those problems are : Speed ( takes a while to be recognised, but is recgonised at first attempt), deja vu and enter the dragon ( both take some attempts till they are recognised and being ejected sometimes with onscreen-message "this disc cannot be played"))

Other issues are, which do not concern me at the moment, that samsung europe confirmed that the "recent" firmware, dated 02.02.07, is being buggy as far as pcm output is concerned. This they promised to remedy quite a while ago, but nothing has happened march 13 07, which was the date when they confirmed the pcm-bug.

After contacting their support for several times, i finally got a reply that they are actually working on a new firmware, that was 05.05.07.

As there is no new blu-ray player out in europe, and the bd-p1200 not being released in europe at all for what reasons soever, i hope they are really going to release a new firmware for the bd-p1000.


sam54, i don´t know if that helps you in any way, but i just wanted to let you know about this.


Greetings


Grug

After comparing the Sony and Samsung initial products, Samsung's clearly comes up short. The noise reduction issue of their chip still hasn't been satisfactorily addressed. Perhaps they rushed their product to market too soon so HD-DVD wouldn't run away with the business? Firmware/hardware, whatever the problem is they need to address it before both formats go the way of the VCR.
As I stated previously, if they can't come up with a firmware fix to bring the PQ up to snuff then they should replace either the chips or the units themselves.

After comparing the Sony and Samsung initial products, Samsung's clearly comes up short. The noise reduction issue of their chip still hasn't been satisfactorily addressed. Perhaps they rushed their product to market too soon so HD-DVD wouldn't run away with the business? Firmware/hardware, whatever the problem is they need to address it before both formats go the way of the VCR.
As I stated previously, if they can't come up with a firmware fix to bring the PQ up to snuff then they should replace either the chips or the units themselves.

I am satisfied with the bdp1000 on my 1080p LCD. The picture is compareable with my ps3 which gets virtually no bad press for PQ. Initially the picture was a little soft, but since the second update it's been pretty much perfect.

I am satisfied with the bdp1000 on my 1080p LCD. The picture is compareable with my ps3 which gets virtually no bad press for PQ. Initially the picture was a little soft, but since the second update it's been pretty much perfect.


I have the BDP1000 and agree with you, it produces a nice picture. I got mine about a month ago and ran the 1.1 update before ever putting in my first BD and as such I have enjoyed a sharp picture from the firs tmovie onward.

I have the BDP1000 and agree with you, it produces a nice picture. I got mine about a month ago and ran the 1.1 update before ever putting in my first BD and as such I have enjoyed a sharp picture from the firs tmovie onward.
I agree to. As does Sound and Vision Magazine. With the firmware updates, the BD-P1000 got solid marks.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hd-dvd-bluray/1927/shootout-3-blu-ray-disc-players-page8.html

Sorry guys, have to disagree with you there. It's funny that these replies come after repeated e-mails to samsung. The picture might be slightly improved from the initial, but it's far from perfect. Get thee to a LARGE 1080p display. There's a marked difference; even Stevie Wonder would agree with me here.
Again the static menu is extremely sharp, but when the movies start the dynamic picture doesn't follow. Another update or chip exchange is needed. Can't rule out the software is mostly to blame, but everyone else I've shown it to agrees when I've run
comparisons over a wide range of Blu-ray/HD-DVD material.
One man's steak is another man's hamburger.

I just download the firmware dated 10/26, created the CD from that iso file and compared it to the CD created from the 10/17 release and the files are exactly the same. Same names, dates and file sizes.

Where is it? I can only find a firmware update that is dated to 2008-06-08 on the Samsung site.