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inspector
11-02-06, 11:29 PM
I thought there was going to be a "Forbidden Planet Ultimate Edition" like the SD, but no one is selling it, so I ordered the regular one.

The one thing I hope is that "The Invisible Boy" is in HD, not 480p as so many of the extras are on all the other HDs.

Maxx_75
11-02-06, 11:34 PM
Amazon is selling the HD Box set for 41.90

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JVRPUI/panandscathed-20

Jacksmyname
11-03-06, 07:11 AM
I have it on order with Amazon.

inspector
11-03-06, 08:10 AM
Thanks...they're the only one selling it, as of now.

I ordered the $20 one, but I'm not sure if it contains 2 discs like the Ultimate Edition does. I wonder what the 2nd disc contains?

PeterS
11-03-06, 08:14 AM
What is in the box set?

bboisvert
11-03-06, 09:55 AM
^
It's identical to the regular edition, but adds:
* Metal case packaging
* Collectible Robby the Robot replica with moveable limbs
* Forbidden Planet and The Invisible Boy reproduction lobby cards portfolio
* Forbidden Planet original theatrical poster mail-in offer

inspector
11-03-06, 10:44 AM
So, both editions carry "2" discs, right?

ShagMan
11-03-06, 10:53 AM
I doubt the HD-DVD set will have two discs... but again, that's just a wild guess on my part... most two-disc SD-DVD sets (Jarhead, Robin Hood, etc.) have gone down to 1 disc for the HD formats.

Damed
11-03-06, 10:59 AM
The HD-DVD in the Ultimate set is the same as the regular release one

Stevie76
11-03-06, 01:07 PM
I really have HIGH hopes for this version.

I LOVE this movie. But the old SD DVD really looks like crap.
Dull washed out colors and way to soft picture.

I hope they do it right this time ;)

Maxx_75
11-03-06, 01:14 PM
So if I do decide to get the Big Pack the regular disk case comes inside yes ? So I can put the regular HD-DVD disk case on the shelf and the big tin somewhere else ? I dont want that big tin with my other disks on the same shelf... if that makes sence.

Damed
11-03-06, 01:30 PM
So if I do decide to get the Big Pack the regular disk case comes inside yes ? So I can put the regular HD-DVD disk case on the shelf and the big tin somewhere else ? I dont want that big tin with my other disks on the same shelf... if that makes sence.

That is my understanding, yes.

However, Until we see it reviewed, or final product pics, there's no 100% guarantee.

inspector
11-08-06, 10:56 AM
DVDPlanet just emailed and mine is shipped!!!

Maxx_75
11-08-06, 12:57 PM
I dont see the collectors edition on the planet. Guess I will have to stick with Amazon for this one.

replayrob
11-08-06, 02:21 PM
DVDPlanet just emailed and mine is shipped!!!
I just checked on Amazon and it still says:
Forbidden Planet [HD DVD]
Availability: This title will be released on November 14, 2006

Art Sonneborn
11-08-06, 03:20 PM
DVD Planet says the same for me.I was hoping that I could see this one this weekend when I had time.

Art

inspector
11-08-06, 03:34 PM
The SD Ultimate Issue shows "2" discs and I wonder if the HD DVD that DVDPlanet is selling has "2" discs?

I also wonder if "The Invisible Boy" will be in HD or SD? I know that some of the things on "The Adventures of Robin Hood" were in HD.

Well, we'll know for sure by next week!

Art Sonneborn
11-08-06, 04:29 PM
I'll be looking to see if I can see the paint brush marks on the railing in the Krell lab. :D

Art

JOHNnDENVER
11-08-06, 04:32 PM
I think I am going ot have to retire my LD version of this in lue of a pristine HD transfer after the reviews on it come out. So please post up how it looks when you get it and have screened it.

SpHeRe31459
11-08-06, 04:57 PM
Yes, please people who get this post your thoughts. I for one am really interested in this, the standard DVD version has high marks from digitalbits.

replayrob
11-08-06, 11:36 PM
I'll be looking to see if I can see the paint brush marks on the railing in the Krell lab. :D
Art
Look hard and you might just see some wires :D :D
http://imdb.com/Photos/Mptv/1297/5089_0046.jpg

Not too bad for 1956... (a little magic on loan from Disney):
http://imdb.com/Photos/Mptv/1362/5089_0058.jpg


EDIT.... Redid the links. They worked last night- hmmm??? :confused:

Art Sonneborn
11-09-06, 09:08 AM
The pics aren't showing in the thread please relink.


The HDNet version looks great compared to the DVD but has a fair amount of mosquito noise. There are a few places in that versiuon where frames are damaged also. I fully expect that this will look better.


Art

rexdigital
11-09-06, 04:38 PM
The pics aren't showing in the thread please relink.


The HDNet version looks great compared to the DVD but has a fair amount of mosquito noise. There are a few places in that versiuon where frames are damaged also. I fully expect that this will look better.


Art


I don't have HDNet but what I have seen, seems to always have some mosquito noise. Thats a big dissapointment.

Is HDNet ever clean picture wise?

It will be great when HD broadcasting is mpeg4/vc-1 based.

Art Sonneborn
11-10-06, 03:30 PM
My problem I think is that it is over DirecTV. The HD FP on HDNet movies was a leap compared to the DVD.

Art

jim9251
11-10-06, 04:40 PM
I was 5 years old in 1956. I remember when I was 8 or so me and friends saw this at a special matinee. That thing in the force field fence gave me nightmares until I was about 35.

Can't wait to get the HD-DVD. Have it on order from Amazon.

Michael Whan
11-10-06, 04:49 PM
I had to go ahead and order the Ultimate Edition because I want that little Robby the Robot.

Flave
11-11-06, 01:05 PM
I was 5 years old in 1956. I remember when I was 8 or so me and friends saw this at a special matinee. That thing in the force field fence gave me nightmares until I was about 35.

LOL!

I can relate -- I was four in 1956. And I first saw Forbidden Planet in my church's auditorium when I was about 10. Cost me a small fortune to get in -- a whole quarter (my week's allowance). And you know what? To this day, that still remains one of the most (if not THE most) memorable movie experiences of my life. Love this movie -- one of my all-time faves.

Milt99
11-11-06, 01:20 PM
If you look at the back cover of the standard HD DVD release, there are 2 proof of purchase bar codes suffixed A & B.
That would indicate to me that the standard HD set is 2 discs.

inspector
11-11-06, 11:06 PM
Okay, here's the skinny on the regular disc, not the Ultimate Edition.

It only comes with only one disc and everything is in HD. "The Invisible Boy" is 1.78:1/1.85:1. the LD looked great and so does this!

It has all the deleted scenes from the Criterion LD (not the stills) and lost footage that has never been seen before.

The trailers for "The Thing from Another World" (1.33;1) is okay, "Beast from 20,000" (1.33:1)looks great, "Them: (1.33;1) looks great, "Forbidden Planet" (2.35:1)is a tad out of focus, "Black Scorpion" (1.78:1/1.85:1) and shows in the trailer Them and the Beast from 20,000) looks great, "The Invisible Boy"(1.33:1) looks great, "The Time Machine(1.78:1/1.85:1) looks great,

Oh, I forgot the best part...THE MOVIE LOOKS SO GREAT I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, NOR WILL YOU!!!

Art Sonneborn
11-11-06, 11:16 PM
Okay, here's the skinny on the regular disc, not the Ultimate Edition.

It only comes with only one disc and everything is in HD. "The Invisible Boy" is 1.78:1/1.85:1. the LD looked great and so does this!

It has all the deleted scenes from the Criterion LD (not the stills) and lost footage that has never been seen before.

The trailers for "The Thing from Another World" (1.33;1) is okay, "Beast from 20,000" (1.33:1)looks great, "Them: (1.33;1) looks great, "Forbidden Planet" (2.35:1)is a tad out of focus, "Black Scorpion" (1.78:1/1.85:1) and shows in the trailer Them and the Beast from 20,000) looks great, "The Invisible Boy"(1.33:1) looks great, "The Time Machine(1.78:1/1.85:1) looks great,

Oh, I forgot the best part...THE MOVIE LOOKS SO GREAT I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, NOR WILL YOU!!!

Vrey very great to hear ! I'll have to wait till Tuesday night. :(

Milt99
11-11-06, 11:19 PM
Excellent news on the extras!
The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, man would I love to have that.

inspector
11-11-06, 11:32 PM
I forgot, it's either 2.40:1 or 2.45:1. The colors are much brighter than the last SD and there is more picture info on all 4 sides of the picture.

Art Sonneborn
11-11-06, 11:38 PM
The symptoms were stricking commander, despite every safeguard my coworkers and friends were literally overcome with childish giddiness. :D

Art

alfbinet
11-11-06, 11:49 PM
I was 5 years old in 1956. I remember when I was 8 or so me and friends saw this at a special matinee. That thing in the force field fence gave me nightmares until I was about 35.

Can't wait to get the HD-DVD. Have it on order from Amazon.

Someone who is older than me! I was born in 1956.

Art Sonneborn
11-12-06, 12:05 AM
Someone who is older than me! I was born in 1956.


'55 here and thinking with all the great stuff in HD it's great time to be alive. Think about it , how long have you wanted to be able to rival a commercial theater presentation in your home ? It's been at least 30 years for me . Well guess what, we are doing it finally, enjoy my old friends ! :D

Art

swifty7
11-12-06, 12:07 AM
was the Krell ever revealed as in how they looked liked? I know they never showed it in the movie but does the extras show it?

John Ballentine
11-12-06, 01:04 AM
Excellent news on the extras!
The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, man would I love to have that.

YES! Anything Harryhausen in HD would be extremely welcome!

Joseph Clark
11-12-06, 02:51 AM
'55 here and thinking with all the great stuff in HD it's great time to be alive. Think about it , how long have you wanted to be able to rival a commercial theater presentation in your home ? It's been at least 30 years for me . Well guess what, we are doing it finally, enjoy my old friends ! :D

Art

I was born in '50. And I was a good little boy, saving my money until I saw my first movie at a theater. I hate to think how much cash I sent Hollywood's way after that. I used to go to 3-4-5 movies a week in the theater. I haven't been to that many in the last 5 years. My home theater experience is better now than 90% of the theaters I used to go to.

Much as I like science fiction, when I think of going back in time and living those days over again, a shiver runs up my spine to think of what I'd have to give up. Indeed, it's a great time to be alive.

Art Sonneborn
11-12-06, 09:35 AM
was the Krell ever revealed as in how they looked liked? I know they never showed it in the movie but does the extras show it?

Nothing of their physical appearance survived. Of course it would be difficult to imagine that the Krell library banks had nothing but that's another story. :D

If you look they must have had double sets of legs and had two butts and been quite short and wide based on the stairs,doors, chairs and railings in the machine and lab. For some reason developing their appearance for the movie must have been either too expensive or inconsequential. Funny how ones imagination fills in the blanks.

Art

giantchicken
11-13-06, 02:54 PM
Hooray! Mine just shipped from Amazon.

SamwisetheBrave
11-13-06, 03:30 PM
Someone who is older than me! I was born in 1956.
I'm a lot older than you, too. :o

Rachael Bellomy
11-13-06, 08:26 PM
I think I am going ot have to retire my LD version of this in lue of a pristine HD transfer after the reviews on it come out. So please post up how it looks when you get it and have screened it.


I have the CAV edition, so, it'll be good for one thing after I get the HD-DVD....if I wanted to exaine a sequence of films frames, I could. CAV is good for that....the LD cover could end up on the wall as album art. I have 2 up already, Superman & First Family. This 'un is a good candidate for the wall and so would the DVD if I had one. ;)

Art Sonneborn
11-13-06, 08:36 PM
If you can keep watching the LD after seeing this in HD you have tremendous self control. I am assuming that it will be better than the HDNet presentation and that blew away the DVD and LD.

Art

SamwisetheBrave
11-14-06, 01:36 PM
FP and Casablanca just arrived at my front door! :D

My new 61" Sammy is coming to the Theater room tomorrow (sold the older CRT HDTV last week), so I'll be back to watching HD-DVD. Whee-Haaa!

inspector
11-14-06, 07:51 PM
Congrats on the new TV!

I remember when I got my Mit 65 inch CRT RPTV and was watching my first SD on it, the first thing I thought was...what would the picture look like on a 73 inch. A TV is never large enough, it seems.

Dave Mack
11-14-06, 09:29 PM
SO!!! How does it look?!?!?!?!

:)

Star56
11-15-06, 12:06 AM
Indeed. I am hoping that Art or someone can compare the HDDVD to the fine Hdnet presentation.

mrwilson
11-15-06, 08:54 AM
I watched it last night. Been about six months since I watched the HDnet broadcast. Looks pretty close initially. However, with the HD-DVD you can definately see more detail, no macro blocking and no HDNet 'bug' popping up. I haven't gotten into the extras yet. I hope there are extras, haven't looked.

tacos
11-15-06, 02:15 PM
Picked this up for a very good price using the google checkout from buy.com. I just hope I get the correct version and for anyone else looking to get it. I recommend checking out the price.

talman
11-15-06, 02:27 PM
Looking forward to getting this one. Will be a blind purchase for me...but based on everything I've read here and elsewhere it's a classic.

Art Sonneborn
11-15-06, 04:41 PM
I hope it's at my house when I get home from work.

Art

Rachael Bellomy
11-15-06, 05:18 PM
I am assuming that it will be better than the HDNet presentation and that blew away the DVD and LD.

Art

Oh come on, it wasn't that close, even.... ;) It's stille on the Tivo, for now.....


It stomped on 'em and spat too.

giantchicken
11-15-06, 05:36 PM
Mine should have been delivered today, but for some reason Amazon sent my order 3 Day Select instead of the 2 Day Air that I should have received as an Amazon Prime member.

Joseph Clark
11-15-06, 06:03 PM
Oh come on, it wasn't that close, even.... ;) It's stille on the Tivo, for now.....


It stomped on 'em and spat too.

I burned my HDNet "Forbidden Planet" to HD DVD and I'm waiting for some word as to whether it's worth it even to buy the commercial disc. The HDNet version is really good.

inspector
11-15-06, 07:13 PM
On the back of the packaging, it says that all extras are 480p, but they're upscaled to 1080i! I thought they were in HD.

Art Sonneborn
11-15-06, 07:17 PM
The order didn't come so no FB till tomorrow.I'm not sure why yet either. When I get it I will make head to head comparisons with the HDNet version.

Art

inspector
11-15-06, 07:18 PM
The order didn't come so no FB till tomorrow.I'm not sure why yet either. When I get it I will make head to head comparisons with the HDNet version.

Art


...'cause you neighbor's got it!!! :D

Mike N Ike
11-15-06, 08:50 PM
Mine was here when I got home and I was able to play about 15 minutes. It looks just great! Have to go out for awhile but will really be looking forward to seeing some of the "wonders of the Krell" when I get back.

Mike

bosng
11-16-06, 01:23 AM
this disc looks great considering the age. some scenes here and there don't hold up but overall the qualilty is very good. didn't watch the whole thing, only skimmed till i couldn't keep my eyes open any longer.

all work and no play...

MSmith83
11-16-06, 01:30 AM
all work and no play...
...makes bosng a dull boy. You're so tired you couldn't even finish the line. :D

...'cause you neighbor's got it!!!
Little does he know that I'm his neighbor. Art, check your mailbox! :D

Milt99
11-16-06, 11:42 AM
Ok, here goes, I ditched my homework and watched Forbidden Planet last night.
My frame of reference on this movie is SD TV broadcast, LD and the DVD released a few years ago. I have not seen the HDNET broadcast.
I have not done an A/B with the DVD but will do so later.
Anyone looking for a reference title better look elsewhere but the definition of "reference" around here is pretty fluid.

Color rendition is very natural and saturated.
Fleshtones at the beginning of the movie vary a bit from scene to scene but settle in after the first 10 minutes or so to what I consider a natural look.
Hair has nice detail and is appropriately shiny :)
Overall the movie is a bit on the soft side with some scenes being very sharp and other not so much. I thought overall, clarity and detail was excellent.
Don't expect to see facial pores etc.
I saw details in Robby's metal exoskeleton that I don't remember seeing before.
The actor's makeup is also apparent but not distracting.
I don't know what the term is but I did notice sporadic white dots where the film looked like it was damaged. It doesn't happen very often, is very fleeting and was not distracting to me.
I tried to watch the movie critically but at times I lapsed into immersion so I very well could have missed some things.
I saw no artifacts or noise.

Specific scenes:
The starfield scenes are far better than I remember from the DVD. Very nice.
The landing scene, the set is very crisp and colors are nice. You can tell they're on a set but is has some pretty nice depth and looks good.
Morbius' house is very colorful with Martha Stewart cornhusk being the predominant color. The metal sculptures and furniture all have nice detail and dimensionality.
The Krell lab and subterranean machine scenes are killer.
The monster id scene is good as well with the evening sets having more depth, detail and color subtlety than I remember.

What was interesting to me about the deleted scene footage is that is looks almost identical in quality, i.e., murky & dark, as the TV broadcasts from years ago. For instance, in the Navigation center in the saucer there's a lucite globe with a little saucer model in the center, in the deleted scenes the saucer is orangey which is how I remember it from TV.
In the movie it is a deeply saturated polished red.

The audio was about what I expected, close mike sound and limited frequency but dialog is clear. I haven't finished tweaking the sound in my room yet so your experience may be different but I did not detect any side\rear surround activity which was a bit disappointing. In fact some of the extra scenes have more surround action than the feature.

OK I've gone on long enough, please forgive me, but Forbidden Planet has a very special place in my movie vault.
People who are aware of this movie need no recommendation from me.
You are either going to buy it no matter what or you don't care.
Highly recommended.

Topweasel
11-16-06, 12:08 PM
^
It's identical to the regular edition, but adds:
* Metal case packaging
* Collectible Robby the Robot replica with moveable limbs
* Forbidden Planet and The Invisible Boy reproduction lobby cards portfolio
* Forbidden Planet original theatrical poster mail-in offer

BS those limbs don't move or if they do Its so difficult that I think I am going to break it.

ZZtop
11-16-06, 04:27 PM
I got this from Amazon yesterday.

I watched it late last night.

For an old movie, is actually very nice to watch, especially considering its age.

The attractive young lady , the daughter is gorgeous.

Details of the house, the facial features and the robot are all fairly clear, and worthy of dvd, NOT HD DVD quality comparison.

The special effects of course are dated so saying there they look hi res or great in hi res is not really fair but they are QUITE passible once you got used to realizing they were done with sets.

I saw the special effects folks worked courtesy of Disney, which was interesting.

I never saw the regular DVD, but I think if you like the movie its well worth the purchase.

This will probably be the absolute best short of a massive computer scan in some future technology its going to look.

Its an easy one sitting movie too, not being too long.

All in all nice HD-DVD. I would not buy it though if you have the regular dvd unless you really like this specific movie. I am a sci fi fan but did not own the sd-dvd so it was a no brainer choice for me.

Watching it was a very enjoyable experience, and there were quite a few actors faces I recognized.

On a funny note, the actor who plays their communications officer, played Oscar Goldman in the Bionic Woman, and the Six Million Dollar man , both of which I recently bought from Amazon uk on DVD.

jim9251
11-16-06, 06:53 PM
Watched the HD-DVD this afternoon. I also have the regular DVD. The color and sharpness of the HD-DVD is superior to the DVD. The MGM matte paintings of the Krell lab and the planet were rich and very very well done. Flesh tones were good, but the make up the actors wore and the Brylcreme was very obvious. Anne Francis has amazing legs.

The extras including lost footage and deleted scenes were great to watch.

Dr Kain
11-17-06, 01:14 AM
I had a guy looking for this today at work, but our computer system has it listed as DELETED. Did it get delayed?

Kosty
11-17-06, 01:16 AM
'55 here and thinking with all the great stuff in HD it's great time to be alive. Think about it , how long have you wanted to be able to rival a commercial theater presentation in your home ? It's been at least 30 years for me . Well guess what, we are doing it finally, enjoy my old friends ! :D

Art

I bought a HC3000 front projector for well under $2000. I have a HD XA1 player. I am now watching some of my favorite movies in HD DVD or wonderfully upconverted standard DVD on a screen over 100 inches. I have a great speaker and AVR receiver with 5.1 analog inputs I bought a couple years ago that are finally reaching their potential.

No matter how good or bad the HD DVD is it is still superior to anything every available to me before, FMJ, TPS or Spartacus included.

I have more HD DVD goodness available than I can watch and Netflix is shipping me a new HD DVD movie every other day.

It is a good time to be a home theater enthusiast. :D

drapp1952
11-17-06, 11:50 AM
Being picky, I thought there was more fine grain (that was probably in the source) and at in certain scenes a slightly washed out quality, almost like a too low gamma was applied, especially in the initial meeting at Morbius' house. I think the telecineist may have been trying to get uniformity of brightness and color throughout the film and perhaps made adjustments in given scenes.

Overall, though, and with the proper brightness or gamma or even projector lamp setting, this is an overall cleaner more stable picture with no episodic blocking or mosquito noise, and closer to the source even with the above minor qualifications than the HDNET broadcast . If you're a more casual fan of this film and have the HDNET broadcast saved, keep that and save $20. But true fans should get this HD DVD even though it is not reference quality video.

Here are some screenshots just for entertainment. They don't capture the fine details I'm talking about.

http://67.18.219.83/image_hosting/web_pages/drapp1952/FP/FP1.jpg

http://67.18.219.83/image_hosting/web_pages/drapp1952/FP/FP2.jpg

http://67.18.219.83/image_hosting/web_pages/drapp1952/FP/FP3.jpg

http://67.18.219.83/image_hosting/web_pages/drapp1952/FP/FP5.jpg

http://67.18.219.83/image_hosting/web_pages/drapp1952/FP/FP4.jpg

http://67.18.219.83/image_hosting/web_pages/drapp1952/FP/FP6.jpg

Dan

replayrob
11-17-06, 12:53 PM
Those screen caps look great drapp1952! :D :D

drjohnc
11-17-06, 03:29 PM
Hey Milt99!

I first saw forbidden planet at a neighborhood movie. Next moved on to VHS ... then to Laserdisc ... then to DVD ... and now to HD-DVD !!:)

WOW! What amazing detail is present in the HD version. I thoroughly concur with your review of the technicals of the HD-DVD presentation.

How can these older movies look so good when re-mastered for HD-DVD? I found the same for The Searchers, Casablanca, and Robin Hood.

To the Studios: Keep up the work in re-mastering the "old masters" ... I'll buy 'em each and every one.

John Ballentine
11-17-06, 03:58 PM
Gorgeous screen shots!

Mark Zimmer
11-17-06, 05:40 PM
The actual disc looks even better!

Arthur Hancock
11-17-06, 05:58 PM
"Forbidden Planet" is one of my favorites and looks great in HD-DVD. Also what an awesome unintentional commentary on screwed-up Fifties sexuality: horny spacemen drooling over a blonde too innocent (dumb?) to know she's in danger! You've got to admit we're evolving!

I saw this last night and as I expected you could clearly see the "sun dress" she's wearing in the pool scene. They went to all these lengths to imply she was (gasp!) swimming NUDE ("What's a bathing suit?") and then here comes that crazy cut--a redeeming flash of morality as she pushes herself out of the pool--which lets you see she's wearing a dress! Like I said, screwed up...but what fun!

bladerunner7
11-17-06, 07:05 PM
I have owned 2 laser versions, and one dvd version of FP....hands down the hd-dvd is the clear winner...I saw things I had never seen before, this was a A production all the way.....and all the bonus stuff and not the collectors editon price...wow.hd-dvd is CHEAPER THAN THE DVD VERSION with all the bonus features....two thumbs WAY up :D

Art Sonneborn
11-17-06, 07:33 PM
I was very impressed with the HDDVD. No question it has more detail and essentially no compression/ bit rate related issues like the HDNet version. If you are even the least bit a fan of this film, or Sci Fi generally, it is my opinion that you will be doing yourself an injustice by not getting this. After I see if I want to make comparisons any more for fun I'll delete my HDnet version.

Thanks for the screen shots!

Art

Milt99
11-17-06, 09:10 PM
One other thing I noticed was with the initial tiger scene.
When the tiger enters the picture, Altaira looks superimposed as her image gets slightly softer, then as the tiger moves through the scene and exits from left to right I can just barely notice the superimposed mattes containing the animal.
Not a nit or a pick, just a testament to the revealing nature of HD.

I also saw no strings on the saucer :)

I sincerely hope that the studios keep releasing the eclectic variety of movies such as this. Eye-poppers like Kong are great and make for impressive demos but in my book, I'll take a Casablanca, The Searchers etal, because of the sheer viewing pleasure a well-crafted dynamite looking movie gives.

Argee
11-17-06, 10:00 PM
Its amazing that at 50 years old this film stand up pretty well to current SF.

Art Sonneborn
11-17-06, 10:41 PM
One other thing I noticed was with the initial tiger scene.
When the tiger enters the picture, Altaira looks superimposed as her image gets slightly softer, then as the tiger moves through the scene and exits from left to right I can just barely notice the superimposed mattes containing the animal.
Not a nit or a pick, just a testament to the revealing nature of HD.

I also saw no strings on the saucer :)

I sincerely hope that the studios keep releasing the eclectic variety of movies such as this. Eye-poppers like Kong are great and make for impressive demos but in my book, I'll take a Casablanca, The Searchers etal, because of the sheer viewing pleasure a well-crafted dynamite looking movie gives.
Yes a very famous piece in that as the tiger approaches Altaira when it turns it's head to the left it fades away as it's outside of that area of superimposition. No strings on C57D but when Robby carries the moribund doctor into the room, strings supporting his wieght so Robby doesn't have to are clearly visible.

Art

FredProgGH
11-17-06, 11:20 PM
Dang it-- Amazon won't have my copy to me until next Friday. I love this movie- I'm amazed I'll finally be able to get some hint of what it might really have looked like projected on film. On a related note, I can't wait until there's an official date for 2001 (which I have seen projected- when I was about three feet tall *lol*)

RobertR
11-18-06, 01:17 AM
I eagerly look forward to getting this disc, but no video format can ever match the look of the restored print I saw in Denver on the big screen back in the 80s.

Mike_Savage_360
11-18-06, 01:23 AM
Sounds awesom-O!!!

I picked up mine at a local Movie store for $34 for the Ultimate collection :D

FredProgGH
11-18-06, 02:31 AM
I eagerly look forward to getting this disc, but no video format can ever match the look of the restored print I saw in Denver on the big screen back in the 80s.
That's why I choose my words carefully. :o I lived in Denver in the 80's- didn't know there was a release of FP!! Did you see it at the Cooper??

stevenjw
11-18-06, 03:42 AM
One of my all-time favorite movies that has clearly stood the test of time after 50 years. It blows away just about ever other SciFi movie from that era and was way ahead of its time. I was lucky enough to see movies like Star Wars, Alien, and the Thing in the theater when they came out. I've had to wait until now to get a similar experience for this great classic.

It definitely deserved the HD treatment and WB has done a fantastic job with this release. A pleasure to watch with great detail, color, etc. Highly, highly recommended.

replayrob
11-18-06, 10:10 AM
drapp1952.... I just saved that screen cap you posted of the ship entering orbit as the desktop wallpaper for my HTPC... look pretty awesome! Thanks again...

RobertR
11-18-06, 10:52 AM
I lived in Denver in the 80's- didn't know there was a release of FP!! Did you see it at the Cooper??Do you remember the Ogden theater? It was a wonderful old theater on Colfax that specialized in film revival. They'd show titles such as The Thief of Baghdad, Lawrence of Arabia, The Time Machine, and many others. It all stopped with the rise of video, though.

HeadRusch
11-19-06, 12:21 AM
God I love HDDVD.....it allows me to see details I never saw before, and now on one of my most favorite Sci Fi films out there. This movie just never gets old, and I'm a mere 35, compared to the rest of you fossils! :D

Now, I have to say I am *somewhat* disappointed in the visuals department. On the one hand everything looked very, very clean. But the disc lacks the ultra high super sharpness that I was hoping to see. Oh, the detail is definately there....and many scenes look absolutely amazing....I am particularly impressed with the way the film has very little noticible grain or noise.

But at the same time, some scenes show their flaws....things I had hoped would be corrected in restoration. Example, the bluish tinges to the 'blacks' in the scene where the "invisible" Krell Monster enters the ship...where the camera passes by the two on-guard crewmembers and one asks "Do you hear that...? Like Breathing?".

There are also a couple of scenes where I see vignetting in the upper r/l corners, also taking on a bluish tint where I would expect to see black. Thought it was my equipment, but it doesn't appear to be (DLP projector). There are also a couple of scenes where the focus is significantly softer, but thankfully these are the exeption to the rule...when I saw the intro with the starfield and the saucer and the title lettering, I knew they'd done a bang up job :)

Saw for the first time: The detail of the Robby costume....its manufacturing and texture marks.

Also noticed the transluscent tiger with Anne Francis for the first time!
I remember watching the DVD (and VHS before it many moons ago) and wondering "my god, how did they tame that tiger to just rush up and stop, and why didn't she bolt away..that tiger charges pretty good before it finally stops, you'd think she'd at least FLINCH!". DUH... :) Now I know why :)

Overall, I would have liked an ever so slightly sharper transfer....but considering the films age, this may be as good as it gets. Loving it.

PS: The extras are quite nicely done, and I must say...Anne Francis still looks gorgeous. Whats she...almost 70? How long ago was that interview done...?

boblinds
11-19-06, 03:21 AM
Anne Francis is now 76 and photos of her appearance a week or so ago at the Egyptian Theater's screening of "Forbidden Planet" indicate she is still stunning.

SamwisetheBrave
11-19-06, 10:27 AM
I was ten when I first saw this film at the Plaza Theater. Obviously, I can't remember what the original showings looked like (the invisible Id monster's footprints in the sand scared me to death), but this HD version is as gorgeous as Anne Francis. ;)

HeadRusch
11-19-06, 11:39 AM
Anne Francis is now 76 and photos of her appearance a week or so ago at the Egyptian Theater's screening of "Forbidden Planet" indicate she is still stunning.

Any idea how old she was when that documentary was made? Based on her hairstyle I'm guessing it was fairly recently, within the past 3-4 years but thats just a guess. (???)

boblinds
11-19-06, 12:51 PM
Here's what Ms. Francis looked like about a week ago:

http://www.dailyceleb.com/production/?view=event&eid=4531&PHPSESSID=004ed

Blasst
11-19-06, 12:53 PM
Here is the link for the Egyptian Theater Screening again. Damn Bob you beat me to it by 2 minutes:)http://www.dailyceleb.com/production/?view=event&eid=4531&PHPSESSID=b5beefdfb3d6cf3cb595227ee93dbcd9

HeadRusch
11-19-06, 12:55 PM
In a word, *wow*. She's 70+??

She must be taking the same Fountain-of-youth water that Raquel Welch is drinking ;)

Netmaster
11-24-06, 12:53 PM
Dang. She's still hot. Looks fantastic!

I just ordered the HD DVD copy of this from Amazon, I just couldn't justify the price of the Ultimate Edition version though. At twice the price of the regular HD DVD version with only some cards that will collect dust, a very tiny plastic Robot, a cheap tin, and a poster offer to show for it, I just couldn't shell out that kind of cash that could just about buy me another HD DVD for my collection. I have been hearing great things about this HD release though. I only wish someone or some site posted comparisons of this and it's SD version. I'd like to know how well it takes advantage of the HD technology.

FredProgGH
11-24-06, 02:22 PM
Do you remember the Ogden theater? It was a wonderful old theater on Colfax that specialized in film revival. They'd show titles such as The Thief of Baghdad, Lawrence of Arabia, The Time Machine, and many others. It all stopped with the rise of video, though.
I remember the name but I don't remember much about the actual theater. At the time I wouldn't have had the kind of interest in older films that I would now, I was just out of high school :o

Art Sonneborn
11-24-06, 03:06 PM
Dang. She's still hot. Looks fantastic!

I just ordered the HD DVD copy of this from Amazon, I just couldn't justify the price of the Ultimate Edition version though. At twice the price of the regular HD DVD version with only some cards that will collect dust, a very tiny plastic Robot, a cheap tin, and a poster offer to show for it, I just couldn't shell out that kind of cash that could just about buy me another HD DVD for my collection. I have been hearing great things about this HD release though. I only wish someone or some site posted comparisons of this and it's SD version. I'd like to know how well it takes advantage of the HD technology.

The SD isn't in the same league. Even compared to the HDNet HD version it is a large step up. I will work on a few screen shots today.Skip the ultimate edition but get this wonderful HDDVD.


Art

Netmaster
11-25-06, 04:38 AM
The SD isn't in the same league. Even compared to the HDNet HD version it is a large step up. I will work on a few screen shots today.Skip the ultimate edition but get this wonderful HDDVD.


Art

Screen shots would be awesome. I'm just really curious about how HD brings an old movie like this to life. Of course the restoration team that worked on this film deserves a large amoount of credit. I've seen many a hazy and grain filled presentation of this classic. I'm told the work that they did is simply outstanding.

Art Sonneborn
11-25-06, 10:58 AM
I'm sorry I didn't get to do it. My computer is down and I was told yesterday afternoon it's terminal. Cropping etc will likey require me to wait. My wife will get hers back today ( bad fan) so I could use hers perhaps.

Art

JOHNnDENVER
11-27-06, 05:16 PM
Count me in... I should have it by the weekend. An old, tired, played 50 gabillion times LD will be retired. :)

Star56
11-27-06, 11:15 PM
I received my copy of Forbidden Planet and Casablanca from Amazon.

I am very very pleased. I have a DVHS copy of FP recorded from Hdnet movies and this HDDVD is certainly sharper and looks better than even my excellent DVHS copy.

I am also quite pleased with the PQ of Casablanca. Looks much better than I expected.

Damn this hobby is addictive.......... :)

ss9001
12-03-06, 09:05 PM
Just finished watching this classic and several of the xtras.

Three comments,

As many times as I've seen this movie, I still enjoy it as one of the best scifi films ever made.
The HD version is by far superior to the letterboxed Criterion laserdisc.
Looking at Anne Francis in her 70's, wow! She has aged very well, still pretty darn good looking! :D

ss9001

JOHNnDENVER
12-04-06, 11:45 AM
Man... I ordered a ton of BD and HD-DVD for the weekend. Guess which was the only one not to arrive? :( Yes, Forbidden Planet.


My poor LD version has been played so many times, the poor thing just needs to be retired from use.

JOHNnDENVER
12-05-06, 12:53 PM
PS: I did recieve my Forbidden Planet yesterday, Monday after the weekend. I hope to screen tonight, Tuesday or at least this weekend.

jim.vaccaro
12-22-06, 04:17 PM
Anybody mail away for the poster? Anybody get it yet? I know it said 6-8 weeks, but my check hasn't even cleared yet and I mailed off about a month ago. :(

ctakim
01-31-07, 11:45 PM
I just watched this on my HD DVD player. Enjoyed the classice 50's era Sci-Fi. Anne Francis was hot! The film had a fine grain, but was still impressively sharp in most shots. Color was excellent, and the sound process to expand the front sound stage. An excellent treatment of a 50's film. It was not quite as good as the Searchers PQ, but still it gets good marks for an old film. Classics on HD DVD are great!

DavidHir
02-01-07, 01:11 PM
I've never seen this movie, but it will soon be shipping from Netflix. I do like a lot of classic 50's sci-fi - looking forward to this title as I've heard so much about.

Emannikcufesin
03-04-07, 09:07 PM
As a fan of old science fiction, I owe it to myself to finally see this classic. I just placed my order on Amazon for this one. Can't wait to see it.

Shaded Dogfood
03-04-07, 09:19 PM
The years have come and gone and there still hasn't been another science fiction film quite like this one.

divedude
03-04-07, 09:41 PM
My favorite Science Fiction movie, a true classic.

Bleddyn H Williams
07-13-07, 02:04 PM
Today, I just received my third copy of the HD "Ultimate Collector's Edition" to contain humble DVDs inside, despite the outside package being for the HD version.

I first bought a copy from DVD Planet, which despite indicating on the outside print it was the HD DVD version, contained DVDs. What a pain, I thought, but a friend at work liked the set, and took it off my hands. He ordered a replacement for me from DeepDiscount.

Yep - when that came, it also contained the wrong format inside. We called DD and were told to return the set, and that a note was being put in the system for the warehouse to open a replacement copy and make sure it contained HDs.

Copy number 3 showed up today. It hadn't been opened. Sure enough, its got bloody DVDs inside again.

I know DVD Planet and DD share a warehouse. It looks like all their stock may be bad. I am so pissed that DD just sent a copy without checking. So much for their "message for the warehouse!"

When I got the second copy, I called Warner, but the department who handles this stuff you have to write to! I did, and wonder what they may have to say.

Anyone else suffer this tedium?

xerosleep
07-13-07, 02:56 PM
I look at this title every time I go to Fry's. Contemplating if I should buy it or not. It had been ages since I had seen it. After reading this thread I'm definitely going to pick it up. Refreshed my memory of what the movie is about.

Except for the first one those screenshots look way to soft and not detailed enough. But still looks good. I'll take your word that it looks better in person :)

That's really wierd you got DVD's in it. Makes me want to open it up and check before I leave the store now. I'd be really ticked having to do that 3 times already.

wittangamo
07-13-07, 02:56 PM
What a horror story. I "settled" for the single-disc HD DVD and have been thrilled by the quality of it.

All I can say is keep after the bastards until they send you what you paid for. This movie is truly worth it.

Geoff D
07-13-07, 05:41 PM
Today, I just received my third copy of the HD "Ultimate Collector's Edition" to contain humble DVDs inside, despite the outside package being for the HD version.

SNIP

Anyone else suffer this tedium?
Yep, although my supplier took back just the DVDs and sent out a minty fresh HD-DVD copy, instead of faffing about with sending the whole thing back.

Love the film, and while the HD-DVD presentation isn't knock-out stuff it's still fabulous for a flick of this age (and importance).

ExarKunM3
07-13-07, 09:30 PM
Same here. I have my third copy on it's way. If it's not the right one this time I'm probably just going to ask for a refund or maybe go with the single-disc.

Bleddyn H Williams
07-13-07, 09:39 PM
Yep, although my supplier took back just the DVDs and sent out a minty fresh HD-DVD copy, instead of faffing about with sending the whole thing back.


I tried to get DeepDiscount to do this today, but they wouldn't - they wanted the whole thing back. After just experiencing their version of sending me a "checked" version, I thought to hell with them and am getting a refund. Will probably pick up the simple disc-only version.

Ironically, the fellow who bought the first tin off me has slowly given me his tin, and now his lobby cards. I thought if I offered him a few dollars for Robby, I could make my own set!

This would have worked, but he broke Robby and threw him in the trash. Oh well.

Bleddyn H Williams
07-13-07, 09:39 PM
Same here. I have my third copy on it's way. If it's not the right one this time I'm probably just going to ask for a refund or maybe go with the single-disc.

Did you buy your copy from DeepDiscount or DVD Planet?

ExarKunM3
07-13-07, 09:41 PM
DeepDiscount.

wittangamo
07-14-07, 12:56 PM
Ironically, the fellow who bought the first tin off me has slowly given me his tin, and now his lobby cards. I thought if I offered him a few dollars for Robby, I could make my own set!

This would have worked, but he broke Robby and threw him in the trash. Oh well.

You need a better class of friends. Doesn't robot destruction carry the death penalty in your state?

Damed
07-14-07, 01:02 PM
Today, I just received my third copy of the HD "Ultimate Collector's Edition" to contain humble DVDs inside, despite the outside package being for the HD version.

I first bought a copy from DVD Planet, which despite indicating on the outside print it was the HD DVD version, contained DVDs. What a pain, I thought, but a friend at work liked the set, and took it off my hands. He ordered a replacement for me from DeepDiscount.

Yep - when that came, it also contained the wrong format inside. We called DD and were told to return the set, and that a note was being put in the system for the warehouse to open a replacement copy and make sure it contained HDs.

Copy number 3 showed up today. It hadn't been opened. Sure enough, its got bloody DVDs inside again.

I know DVD Planet and DD share a warehouse. It looks like all their stock may be bad. I am so pissed that DD just sent a copy without checking. So much for their "message for the warehouse!"

When I got the second copy, I called Warner, but the department who handles this stuff you have to write to! I did, and wonder what they may have to say.

Anyone else suffer this tedium?

I had the exact same problem with the copy I preorderd from Amazon. When I got it, it said hd-dvd on the outside, and was standard dvd on the inside.

Thankfully, my replacement copy was ok.

Seems to be a pretty widespread issue.

Rachael Bellomy
07-14-07, 01:08 PM
You need a better class of friends. Doesn't robot destruction carry the death penalty in your state?

Why are you sugar-coating it? It's Robocide, pure and simple. Maybe even 1st degree...? ;)

Bleddyn H Williams
07-14-07, 01:13 PM
I had the exact same problem with the copy I preorderd from Amazon. When I got it, it said hd-dvd on the outside, and was standard dvd on the inside.

Thankfully, my replacement copy was ok.

Seems to be a pretty widespread issue.

DVD Planet, DeepDiscount, Amazon and counting...

When I got my second bad set, I actually wrote to the WB department for these things. I wonder if they'll answer and what they'll have to say. Too bad WB doesn't have a rep in these forums...

Sporadic
07-18-07, 12:09 AM
I hope you guys are happy.

This thread made me blind buy this movie from Warner a few days ago. I can't wait for them to show up :)

Star56
07-18-07, 03:15 AM
I hope you guys are happy.

This thread made me blind buy this movie from Warner a few days ago. I can't wait for them to show up :)


You will be getting a true classic. Listen to the incredible, revolutionary soundtrack. The plot which blends Shakespeare and Freudian theory. Walter Pigeon...Ann Francis....Robbie....it is all good.

charles0424
07-18-07, 03:31 AM
I had almost no clue about this movie until I saw this thread. I am now seriously considering it but I don't know what it is about me buying VERY old movies. It's almost like I cant do it. I saw the trailer if that's what it is on IMDB but I didn't wanna read through their forums because of spoilers being thrown around left and right. I guess this one will move into my save for later cart until I decide what to do.

cjsm250
07-18-07, 06:41 AM
I had almost no clue about this movie until I saw this thread. I am now seriously considering it but I don't know what it is about me buying VERY old movies. It's almost like I cant do it. I saw the trailer if that's what it is on IMDB but I didn't wanna read through their forums because of spoilers being thrown around left and right. I guess this one will move into my save for later cart until I decide what to do.


I would recommend buying it. Especially if you haven't seen it and don't know what happens. That will make it that much more enjoyable. As for being an old movie, I know what you mean; many if not most of the fifties science fiction films are cheesy. But this one is not. It is the classic of 50s sci-fi films, the cream of the crop, the gem among the frogs (how's that for a mixed metaphor). It is the masterpiece of that era. And is without a doubt one of the most important and influential science fiction films ever made; the film that set the standard and laid the foundation for every quality science fiction film which came after.

ss9001
07-18-07, 07:06 AM
It is the classic of 50s sci-fi films, the cream of the crop, the gem among the frogs (how's that for a mixed metaphor). It is the masterpiece of that era. And is without a doubt one of the most important and influential science fiction films ever made; the film that set the standard and laid the foundation for every quality science fiction film which came after.

Absolutely!

Anyone who enyoys sci-fi needs to get this classic. It is not hokey or cheesy. The movie was way ahead of its time on the story, special effects, and soundtrack.

Many creators & directors of "modern" SF say they owe their inspiration to this film, including Spielburg. It has space, psychological aspects, some light humor, and Anne Francis. What more can there be? :D

I think it's fair to say most SF film critics include FP along with 2001 as pivital in the genre.

AES256
07-18-07, 10:12 AM
I had almost no clue about this movie until I saw this thread. I am now seriously considering it but I don't know what it is about me buying VERY old movies. It's almost like I cant do it. I saw the trailer if that's what it is on IMDB but I didn't wanna read through their forums because of spoilers being thrown around left and right. I guess this one will move into my save for later cart until I decide what to do.I would recommend buying it. Especially if you haven't seen it and don't know what happens.
Pretty much my experience as well. I bought the Forbidden Planet HD DVD on a blind buy a few months ago, and really enjoyed watching it for the first time and discovering what happens; all in glorious HD!
Definitely one of my better movie experiences :)

tteich
07-18-07, 10:13 AM
I'd go so far to say that many directors, including Spielberg and Lucas *copied* elements from Forbidden Planet. If you watch closely, you will find elements which came back with Star Wars, Star Trek, and other SF classics. In the bonus section is a very good documentary which shows how mentioned creators got inpired by this. By the way: this disc is awesome in terms of features. It's the 50th anniversary edition and Warner did an awesome job here. With 100min run length plus 6 ! hours of bonus features you can watch it the whole day. And you really should take the time, the disc deserves it.

bboisvert
07-18-07, 10:38 AM
"Old" or not, Forbidden Planet is one of the best -- and most fun -- sci-fi flicks out there. The HD DVD is fantastic.

ss9001
07-18-07, 09:45 PM
And on top of all this, for the posters who have never watched this movie b4, if you recognize the name of the high end audio company Krell, its name comes from this movie! I cannot reveal anymore for that would be a spoiler.

We all agree, the poster who is considering buying this needs to just Buy It :D

HeadRusch
07-18-07, 09:53 PM
Age is irrelevant in film, good films (like good books) stand the test of time. The dress and language may change (A movie with no profanity!? Egads!) but the story is what matters, and this movie tells a fantastic story.

Taking itself serious enough to know its not some poorly-acted B-fest, and yet having some moments of comic relief to let you know it wasn't some pretentious psuedo-science mess of a film.

And in HD you can really see that spooky almost-invislbe Krell Monster! :D

Everything about this movie is fantastic.....the acting, the story, the pace at which it moves, hell my only gripe is that it isn't an hour longer showing off more of the amazing Krell machinery and inner-sanctums!

GioGambino
07-18-07, 11:37 PM
I've seen this box set sitting on the shelf at my local Fry's for weeks now. Is it really that hard to find? If so, I might just have to buy it and resell it. LOL. Unless anybody on here wants it that bad, I can buy it for you and you can pay me for it and the shipping. I can give you my eBay info or whatnot.

**EDIT** Jeez, I guess I should look at when threads were originally posted. Talk about reviving the dead. :eek:

charles0424
07-19-07, 12:05 AM
Alright already you all convinced me to do it so I did. Should be here on Friday case closed :)

tteich
07-19-07, 10:58 AM
Alright already you all convinced me to do it so I did. Should be here on Friday case closed :)
Did you order the tin, or the standard case? Tell us what you think about it, after you found the time to watch it.

gstspyder
07-19-07, 12:20 PM
"Another one of them new worlds. No beer, no women, no pool parlors, nothin'. Nothin' to do but throw rocks at tin cans, and we gotta bring our own tin cans."

charles0424
07-19-07, 02:18 PM
I ordered the standard. And I'll let everyone know what I think when I have the time to view it. I have TONS of movies in my to watch list.

tteich
07-19-07, 02:28 PM
"Another one of them new worlds. No beer, no women, no pool parlors, nothin'. Nothin' to do but throw rocks at tin cans, and we gotta bring our own tin cans."
...says James the cook. :D

Staying Salty
07-19-07, 10:49 PM
Age is irrelevant in film, good films (like good books) stand the test of time. The dress and language may change (A movie with no profanity!? Egads!) but the story is what matters, and this movie tells a fantastic story.

Taking itself serious enough to know its not some poorly-acted B-fest, and yet having some moments of comic relief to let you know it wasn't some pretentious psuedo-science mess of a film.

And in HD you can really see that spooky almost-invislbe Krell Monster! :D

Everything about this movie is fantastic.....the acting, the story, the pace at which it moves, hell my only gripe is that it isn't an hour longer showing off more of the amazing Krell machinery and inner-sanctums!

Agree. One of my favorite movies. Will certainly be picking this one up at some point. :)

thecodeman
07-19-07, 10:58 PM
This was an awesome blind buy. I watched the other day and while the wife wasnt crazy about it, I was impressed with the PQ and AQ for a movie over 50 years old. The special effects were cool too. Definitely a keeper disc.

inspector
07-20-07, 09:06 AM
The scene when the saucer is circling the planet as it comes in for a landing has not been equaled in any sci-fi movie since then!

Patsfan123
12-14-07, 02:04 AM
So being the good college student that I am, I decided that watching a movie tonight would be better than studying for that pesky finance final I have tomorrow (today now) at 1. I scan through my roommates movies and decide upon Forbidden Planet, which I haven't watched yet. I am a pretty big sci fi fan, so I decided that I should watch a classic to get some perspective. I am 21 so I haven't seen all the classics yet.

Pop in the movie and notice the opening titles.. "Leslie Nielsen". Hmm thats interesting, I didn't know he was an actor in '56, so I figure that he must be some small character before he hit it big. Kinda forget about seeing his name in the title, and watch the whole movie. End credits "Leslie Nielsen as Commander John J. Adams"... HUH?? He was the main character??? Go back and scan through the scenes to look for a close up... Wow, I can barely tell it was him by his face and voice.. He looked and sounded a lot different back in 1956.

The Leslie Nielsen I know, is the guy in Airplane, Naked Gun, and the rest of the spoofs. I even got his autograph when I was 10. So in conclusion, I didn't know that he did serious roles, since every movie he has done in my lifetime has been a comedy. I couldn't even recognize him after watching the movie for 1.5 hours and seeing his name roll up in the opening credits.

For the tech stuff, I thought it looked pretty good for being a 51 year old movie. Thinking about how my dad was 5 when it came out really put it in perspective, as well as how old Leslie Nielsen is today! I did think it was strange how it would get darker/grainier/color temps would change midscene, especially when nothing else was going on as far as I could tell. This also happened when scenes changed but I figure that is due to the editing methods of 1956.

BTW this post push off studying for another 15 minutes. :-D

giantchicken
12-14-07, 02:40 AM
Good luck on your final!

Star56
12-14-07, 03:37 AM
Heh heh. One of the fun things about getting older is that you slowly no longer look anything like you did at age 21. I am 51...and my college photos are unrecognizable by anyone including my wife :eek:



So being the good college student that I am, I decided that watching a movie tonight would be better than studying for that pesky finance final I have tomorrow (today now) at 1. I scan through my roommates movies and decide upon Forbidden Planet, which I haven't watched yet. I am a pretty big sci fi fan, so I decided that I should watch a classic to get some perspective. I am 21 so I haven't seen all the classics yet.

Pop in the movie and notice the opening titles.. "Leslie Nielsen". Hmm thats interesting, I didn't know he was an actor in '56, so I figure that he must be some small character before he hit it big. Kinda forget about seeing his name in the title, and watch the whole movie. End credits "Leslie Nielsen as Commander John J. Adams"... HUH?? He was the main character??? Go back and scan through the scenes to look for a close up... Wow, I can barely tell it was him by his face and voice.. He looked and sounded a lot different back in 1956.

The Leslie Nielsen I know, is the guy in Airplane, Naked Gun, and the rest of the spoofs. I even got his autograph when I was 10. So in conclusion, I didn't know that he did serious roles, since every movie he has done in my lifetime has been a comedy. I couldn't even recognize him after watching the movie for 1.5 hours and seeing his name roll up in the opening credits.

For the tech stuff, I thought it looked pretty good for being a 51 year old movie. Thinking about how my dad was 5 when it came out really put it in perspective, as well as how old Leslie Nielsen is today! I did think it was strange how it would get darker/grainier/color temps would change midscene, especially when nothing else was going on as far as I could tell. This also happened when scenes changed but I figure that is due to the editing methods of 1956.

BTW this post push off studying for another 15 minutes. :-D

Patsfan123
12-14-07, 05:33 PM
Good luck on your final!

Yeah, if I am lucky I will get about a 40 before the curve... This was the hardest thing I have ever seen, and the prof knew it. He was chuckling as we all struggled. The new way to teach is to give impossible tests then add 30%-40% curves so everyone passes. Oh well, one more to go!

runchuckrun
12-20-07, 03:22 PM
"Another one of them new worlds. No beer, no women, no pool parlors, nothin'. Nothin' to do but throw rocks at tin cans, and we gotta bring our own tin cans."

That's a great line. I also liked the one when Altaira rings for Robby, and he finally shows up and says, "I was giving myself an oil job." :D

piturra
12-20-07, 04:06 PM
You will be getting a true classic. Listen to the incredible, revolutionary soundtrack. The plot which blends Shakespeare and Freudian theory. Walter Pigeon...Ann Francis....Robbie....it is all good.

Agreed!!!

I bought the Ultimate Collector's (Tin) Edition and it looks great next to my Remote Robby the Robot!!! ...

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1051/forbiddenplanetla8.jpg

piturra
12-20-07, 04:13 PM
The scene when the saucer is circling the planet as it comes in for a landing has not been equaled in any sci-fi movie since then!

The back of my Ultimate Collector's Edition Tin box has this artwork ...

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/374/forbiddenplanet2nl2.jpg

And one of the Lobby Cards in the Ultimate Collector's Edition had this ...

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9159/forbiddenplanet3ay6.jpg

dsa_shea
01-02-08, 09:24 PM
I just got this in today and I'm getting ready to watch it. I'll share my thoughts afterwards. Very Excite!!!

inspector
01-02-08, 10:35 PM
I'm biased, since it's my favorite movie...but you'll really enjoy it!!!

Star56
01-02-08, 11:15 PM
Is that an original Robbie? If not...where did you purchase it?

LexInVA
01-03-08, 12:48 AM
Is that an original Robbie? If not...where did you purchase it?

It's a remote control toy that uses AA batteries. You can get them at a bunch of internet vendors. Here's one. (http://www.toytent.com/Robots/171.html)

HeadRusch
01-03-08, 08:57 AM
That toy was originally released around the time of the Lost In Space movie, when everyone was talking about "Robbie The Robot"........interesting, its appreciated in value quite a bit I see. I picked one up when they were $29.99.

Chad T
03-10-08, 02:53 PM
I got this HD DVD and just watched it. That was my first time ever seeing this film. Quite enjoyable. I was expecting it to be hokey given its age, but it *wasn't at all* even with the dated special effects. I'm showing my (younger) age here, but it was strange seeing Leslie Nielsen act so serious.

As far as video quality, I was astounded at the quality considering its age. The worst scenes for me were when Altaira was showing the animals outside. It would look fine, then pan to her with the animals and would look horrible, then it would pan away from that and look fine again. Trying to figure out why those scenes looked so comparitively horrible. Were those special effects overlays over the film or something?

HeadRusch
03-10-08, 02:57 PM
I got this HD DVD and just watched it. That was my first time ever seeing this film. Quite enjoyable. I was expecting it to be hokey given its age, but it *wasn't at all* even with the dated special effects. I'm showing my (younger) age here, but it was strange seeing Leslie Nielsen act so serious.


Its a very good movie, I watch it once a year and it never ceases to impress me because they took it all so seriously, from the inside of the UFO to setting up a perimiter, the whole story is pretty well done. Unlike so many films today which just throw action scene after action scene at you, this one builds up.

The worst scenes for me were when Altaira was showing the animals outside. It would look fine, then pan to her with the animals and would look horrible, then it would pan away from that and look fine again. Trying to figure out why those scenes looked so comparitively horrible. Were those special effects overlays over the film or something?

Yep, I believe the "jumping tiger" scene has the animals superimposed over it, the actors weren't on the same stage as the animals I do believe.....

Chad T
03-10-08, 03:05 PM
One other comment/question....I was kinda surprised at Altaira's clothing for a film from the 50s. Was that controversial when this movie came out?

HeadRusch
03-10-08, 03:13 PM
One other comment/question....I was kinda surprised at Altaira's clothing for a film from the 50s. Was that controversial when this movie came out?

Yep, I think wikipedia notes that the woman who designed Anne Francis's dresses for the movie is credited with inventing the miniskirt, or is in some circles.

Also risque' is the "swimming scene", as it is *implied* that she is nude (she isn't, on the HD release you can see Anne Francis is wearing a suit).

foghorn2
03-10-08, 08:51 PM
I ordered it from Amazon last week, the Tin version!
Can't wait.

Davinleeds
03-10-08, 08:58 PM
Love this movie, but on mine, on the first few seconds of chapter transition, you can see like 480p to 1080p. Lasts only a second. But I kept it anyway.

Art Sonneborn
03-11-08, 08:55 PM
I'm biased, since it's my favorite movie...but you'll really enjoy it!!!

Plus one !

Most of the effects shots with actors look bad like when Morbius throws the grapefruit into the disintegrator but so much looks incredible ! This movie is over a half century old and is the best Sci Fi film, IMO ,until 2001 and in many ways holds it's own against anything for the story and care in production.

Altara with the Tiger you can see the tigers head nearly disappear in the composite.

"The symptoms were striking commander,one by one despite every safegaurd my coworkers were torn literally limb from limb!" " by what?" " by some devilish thing that never once showed itself !"

Art

alfbinet
03-11-08, 08:59 PM
Plus one !

Most of the effects shots with actors look bad like when Morbius throws the grapefruit into the disintegrator but so much looks incredible ! This movie is over a half century old and is the best Sci Fi film, IMO ,until 2001 and in many ways holds it's own against anything for the story and care in production.

Altara with the Tiger you can see the tigers head nearly disappear in the composite.

"The symptoms were striking commander,one by one despite every safegaurd my coworkers were torn literally limb from limb!" " by what?" " by some devilish thing that never once showed itself !"

Art

Art,

Are you going to have your summer film fest at your home this year? I have never been but would love to attend. I wouldn't mind meeting the "Bland" in person.

ilovenola2
03-11-08, 09:10 PM
One other comment/question....I was kinda surprised at Altaira's clothing for a film from the 50s. Was that controversial when this movie came out?
No. The Fifties were not the 18-Fifties!!

johndn
03-11-08, 09:16 PM
I ordered it from Amazon last week, the Tin version!
Can't wait.

Any meaningful advantage to the tin version? I thought the discs in the two versions were identical? Thanks.

foghorn2
03-11-08, 10:14 PM
Any meaningful advantage to the tin version? I thought the discs in the two versions were identical? Thanks.

From what I could gather, its the same thing in tin, a toy replica and some trading cards. I think my 6 year old son will like it.

Star56
03-12-08, 04:17 AM
No. The Fifties were not the 18-Fifties!!

If a woman walked down the street in 1956 wearing skirts like Ann Francis wore in the movie...trust me...it would have been VERY controversial.

inspector
03-13-08, 09:46 PM
There was a story going around many many years ago that there were "2" versions of "FP."

One for kiddie matinees and one for regular showings.

Supposetly you couldn't see that she was wearing a swimming suit in the regular version.

Don't know if it's true or not, but not all the extras were carried over from the LD, so you're missing alot of fun stuff...like the original shooting script.

I bought into HD DVD because of this movie, my favorite of all time!

joemama127
03-13-08, 11:20 PM
I've never seen this movie (that I remember) and really had no interest until I read this thread. Well, I guess you could say that I not only ordered this movie..but also the collectors edition with the tin, robot and cards.:o I couldn't resist....Amazon had it for less than a new release BD at best Buy.

All of you guys gushing about this classic cinematic masterpiece are responsible for me buying yet ANOTHER HD-DVD after I swore that Beowulf would be my last.:mad:

joemama127
03-19-08, 03:12 PM
Got my CE Forbidden Planet yesterday and watched it last night. You guys are right about this movie....even though there is no mistaking it for anything other than a 50's era sci-fi flick..it does rise above the rest. The special effects are dated, the usual 50's-60's overly dramatic (yet oddly stiff) acting style is present...yet the movie somehow rises above all of that. Even though the cheeze factor is high, it is nowhere near other sci-fi movies of the same era...and even in some ways less cheezy than a lot of more modern sci-fi flicks.

Watching this movie it was very clear to see how it influenced later sci-fi movies (particularly elements of Star Wars) and the Star Trek series. I can see now how this movie was just as groundbreaking in it's day as 2001 was more than 10 years later. I can't believe that I'm a sci-fi fan over 30 and have never seen this movie in any form...I guess my experience with the shallow cheeziness of all the other sci-fi movies of this era turned me off and I would never give them a chance.

Oh, one last thing....I never could shake the feeling that Leslie Nielsen was going to bust out with something absurd at any moment and was disappointed when he didn't.:p

colombianlove41
03-19-08, 06:17 PM
ii just watched this for the first time on my dad's reccomendation and wow, this is a great movie and it's worth the money, also it looks awesome....

KosminenPoika
03-20-08, 09:42 PM
Is that an original Robbie? If not...where did you purchase it?

It's a remote control toy that uses AA batteries. You can get them at a bunch of internet vendors. Here's one. (http://www.toytent.com/Robots/171.html)

You have filled my head with childlike toy-lust! Presenting.... 7-foot Robbie, just $50 K! (http://www.hammacher.com/publish/10921.asp)

http://www.best-microcontroller-projects.com/image-files/robbie-the-robot-20020500.jpg

Any benefactors out there... PM me? :D

Rachael Bellomy
03-20-08, 09:48 PM
http://www.best-microcontroller-projects.com/image-files/robbie-the-robot-20020500.jpg

He might be worth it if he can synthisize alcoholic beverages? ;)

foghorn2
03-20-08, 11:49 PM
Got my collectors edition today but the offer for the poster expired last year.

foghorn2
03-20-08, 11:51 PM
http://www.best-microcontroller-projects.com/image-files/robbie-the-robot-20020500.jpg

"Baar..Ba. RA, wil you please get me a cup of Hot Chocolate Baar..Ba. RA":D

Shade00
03-21-08, 01:06 AM
I ordered this with I Am Legend from Amazon. I forgot that I picked Super Saver Shipping, so I have to wait a couple of weeks to get Forbidden Planet with I Am Legend. :( Lame.... still, I'm looking forward to it.

luigionlsd
03-21-08, 12:12 PM
Any meaningful advantage to the tin version? I thought the discs in the two versions were identical? Thanks.

The media is exactly the same, a factory sealed single-disc. If anybody wants a tin, I've got a (very) lightly used tin that I'd be happy to part with for shipping. I'm sure somebody would appreciate it more than me, and it's not that big of a deal to me (I wasn't sure if the actual media was different, which it's not). If anybody's interested, shoot me a PM. First come, first serve, obviously! Thanks!

Lee Stewart
03-21-08, 12:35 PM
Has anyone in this thread ever mentioned the use of the word "tonalities" as opposed to "music" in the opening credits?

If I remember correctly - something to do with legal issues.

Chad T
03-21-08, 12:41 PM
^That is covered in the extra features on the HD DVD disc.

joemama127
03-21-08, 02:36 PM
Got my collectors edition today but the offer for the poster expired last year.Same here...even so I was tempted to send it in and see if by some chance they had some left and would still honor it. I wasn't rempted enough to cut out the upc code for no reason though..

edit- I was also curious about the price of the "lifesize" Robby offer....but if the $50k mentioned above is correct then I'm no longer curious.:eek:

scowl
03-21-08, 07:23 PM
Has anyone in this thread ever mentioned the use of the word "tonalities" as opposed to "music" in the opening credits?

You mean all that electronic racket we hear when the movie starts? :D

pioneer4x4
03-27-08, 10:41 PM
You mean all that electronic racket we hear when the movie starts? :D

Yep, they made the hardware to make the sounds. All one of a kind stuff. I got this from Blockbuster Online, and LOVED it. TONS of bonus material, including 1 movie (The Invisible Boy) 1 TV episode of "The Thin Man" both featuring Robby the Robot, lots of documentary type stuff. Deleted/altered scenes. I thought it looked superb. I will definitely buy this soon, anyone selling?

KosminenPoika
03-28-08, 06:51 PM
Yep, they made the hardware to make the sounds. All one of a kind stuff. I got this from Blockbuster Online, and LOVED it. TONS of bonus material, including 1 movie (The Invisible Boy) 1 TV episode of "The Thin Man" both featuring Robby the Robot, lots of documentary type stuff. Deleted/altered scenes. I thought it looked superb. I will definitely buy this soon, anyone selling?
Hours of bonus material!

"Tonalities" (from the HD DVD extras): the music guild prevented the innovative scorers from claiming a film score credit, making them ineligible for an Oscar nomination for their groundbreaking sound design.

More at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_and_Bebe_Barron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet

foughman
02-10-09, 08:59 AM
Where can I buy this Tin-edition in the US? 56$ for it on Amazon is pretty much...

cobolisdead
02-10-09, 09:44 AM
That's probably the best price for it. It's one of the more rare HD DVD titles so it's going for a bit more than the others are.

coolstrategist
02-10-09, 03:41 PM
Where can I buy this Tin-edition in the US? 56$ for it on Amazon is pretty much...

I just bought the "tin-edition" HD DVD version 10 minutes ago on Ebay for $20 shipped with the disc still sealed. Seller stated the figurine was missing the antenna but I can live with that heartbreaking news at that price.

So it can be had relatively inexpensive if you keep looking.

Quentin2
02-11-09, 03:06 PM
I've loved this movie since I was a kid! Was thrilled to see it in full HD when I bought it last summer. A real bargain.