View Full Version : Warner titles missing on BD (already on HD-DVD)


Rogervienna
11-03-06, 12:51 PM
I want

Casablanca
Adventures of Robin Hood,The
Grand Prix BD 50 ?
Terminator 3 BD 50 ?
Troy BD 50 ?

;)

DVD_sanchez
11-03-06, 01:10 PM
Batman Begins
V for Vendetta

Michael TLV
11-03-06, 01:19 PM
Greetings

When they figure out that iME stuff, it will come out on BD.

regards

dpags
11-03-06, 01:23 PM
I want

Terminator BD 50 ?




I assuming you meant Terminator 3? :)

oink
11-03-06, 02:18 PM
T3
V
Troy

All at 50gb, of course.

eightninesuited
11-03-06, 02:51 PM
I want to see Grand Prix and Troy on a BD50 with lossless audio. But I'm not holding my breath. Warner will probably port the HD DVD versions.

Rogervienna
11-03-06, 03:13 PM
I assuming you meant Terminator 3? :)

Yes killed the "3" :D

DVD_sanchez
11-03-06, 03:26 PM
T3


T3, i'd be happy if this piece of trash never got released on BD. It should have never been released in the theater either, heck they should've not even bothered writing the screenplay. The only time T3 was a good idea is when James Cameron had a dream about a possible T3 story!

eightninesuited
11-03-06, 03:51 PM
T3, i'd be happy if this piece of trash never got released on BD. It should have never been released in the theater either, heck they should've not even bothered writing the screenplay. The only time T3 was a good idea is when James Cameron had a dream about a possible T3 story!

Exactly. T3 was retarded!! The first two films hammered home the point that the "future isn't set". That we as human beings are responsible for what the future brings. It was a moral and social commentary on fate, reason, choice, HOPE. This drove the films' subtext, past the action sequences.

This film totally undercut the brilliance of the first 2 by saying that the future is already set, you just live it. Umm ok. The acting stunk from both of the young actors. The Doctor showing up at the Cemetary was stupid as well.

RobertR1
11-03-06, 04:00 PM
If they use the same encodes on a BD50 (which they likely will) we'll have some of you bitching again about "wasiting 20GB LOL!" sigh........

Rogervienna
11-03-06, 05:17 PM
Month Waves / titles
4 2/3
5 3/8
6 3/7
7 2/3
8 2/7
9 3/20
10 2/14
11 2/15
12 2/3

I wonder what will come in December ?!

Still exclusive to HD-DVD :(

Date Title
05/02 Goodfellas
06/06 Constantine
Perfect Storm
07/11 Dukes of Hazzard
Enter the Dragon
08/22 Caddyshack
09/12 Troy
09/26 Adventures of Robin Hood
Dirty Dozen
Grand Prix
Terminator 3
10/10 Batman Begins
Charlie & Chocolate Fact
Polar Express
Willy Wonka & Chocolate F
10/31 Excalibur
V for Vendetta
11/14 Casablanca
Forbidden Planet
Mutiny on the Bounty
11/28 Smallville: Fifth Season
12/05 Poseidon

roma_victor
11-03-06, 05:24 PM
^
Out of the current HD DVD exclusives listed above, have any been announced for BD yet?

Rogervienna
11-03-06, 05:24 PM
^
Out of the current HD DVD exclusives listed above, have any been announced for BD yet?

Sadly not

but I expect some soon...

roma_victor
11-03-06, 05:31 PM
WB's release strategy is perplexing. It seems a studio would either be exclusive to one format or truly neutral like Paramount. Why release some movies in both formats but not others (at least delaying some releases in BD)?

jim_r
11-03-06, 05:49 PM
Maybe they are waiting for BD sales to improve before opening up the spigot.

WirelessGuru
11-03-06, 06:21 PM
Exactly. T3 was retarded!! The first two films hammered home the point that the "future isn't set". That we as human beings are responsible for what the future brings. It was a moral and social commentary on fate, reason, choice, HOPE. This drove the films' subtext, past the action sequences.

This film totally undercut the brilliance of the first 2 by saying that the future is already set, you just live it. Umm ok. The acting stunk from both of the young actors. The Doctor showing up at the Cemetary was stupid as well.Agreed.... but the special effects in 3 were really awesome. The crane scene is absolutely incredible.

WiFi-Spy
11-03-06, 06:25 PM
Greetings

When they figure out that iME stuff, it will come out on BD.

regards

Don't be so sure :cool:

oink
11-03-06, 06:27 PM
I think they are still trying to master the various codecs and determine which works and which doesn't.

You have to admit, this is much more complicated than the early days of DVD.

isaidme
11-03-06, 09:00 PM
T3 just set things up for T4 which is based after the nukes in the earth's ruines.He said he would be back.

isaidme
11-03-06, 09:03 PM
Dont know if its Warner or not but I want my "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"

edo9125
11-03-06, 09:21 PM
well you gotta switch over to hd dvd for fear and loathing its a Universal title and they are exclusively with hd dvd.

isaidme
11-03-06, 09:34 PM
Well at least I have the dvd :D

jayselle
11-03-06, 11:17 PM
Batman Begins
V for Vendetta

I would say V is the new reference for HD-DVD for both picture quality and audio (TrueHD) just slightly surpassing Batman Begins. Is it a coincidence both these titles are VC-1 and have TrueHD?

Robert George
11-04-06, 12:39 AM
Warner Home Video is often referred to as "neutral" because they have released titles on both HD DVD and Blu-ray. The truth is, Warner Home Video is not neutral. A corporate (Time Warner) decision was made to publish on Blu-ray, but the actual release schedule is decided by WHV. That release schedule, as is noted by this thread, indicates WHV's position vis-a-vie HD disc formats.

ckenisell
11-07-06, 01:02 PM
What really kills Warner BD titles is that they are just using the same HD-DVD transfer and putting it onto Blu-Ray discs. How awesome would the Warner releases be if they tool full advantage of the Blu-Ray data rates and disc size?

I am glad there is a format war to keep quality up, but it also has this dissadvantage. They are encoding to the least common denomonator.

HD-DVDwonder
11-08-06, 06:38 PM
Well at least I have the dvd :D


Of the handful of true 10/10 HD-DVD titles in regards to PQ, Fear and Loathing is definitley up there with the best. The arrival to Las Vegas strip with all the lights are some of the most breathtaking live-action HD material i've ever seen

Robert George
11-08-06, 09:40 PM
I am glad there is a format war to keep quality up, but it also has this dissadvantage. They are encoding to the least common denomonator.

That might be true, but not the way you think.

Blu-ray is currently the "least common denominator" as you put it. BD50 is not widely available so the vast majority of BD discs are limited to 25 GB. Also, no advanced audio codec support is being used to any great extend on BD because not all hardware supports it. Also, interactivity is limited on BD because the hardware does not always support it.

Lastly, it should be noted that we have been told Warner is not encoding for limitations. HD DVD encodes are for the HD DVD format, meaning 30 GB with the total bandwidth limites of that format. If something does not fit on 25 GB, Warner is either leaving features off, releasing on BD50 when possible (The Searchers), or not putting things on BD at all (all IME titles).

How awesome would the Warner releases be if they tool full advantage of the Blu-Ray data rates and disc size?

I suppose they could make the BDs just as awesome as the HD DVDs.

Jeff Lampert
11-08-06, 10:06 PM
Blu-ray is currently the "least common denominator" as you put it. BD50 is not widely available so the vast majority of BD discs are limited to 25 GB. Also, no advanced audio codec support is being used to any great extend on BD because not all hardware supports it. Also, interactivity is limited on BD because the hardware does not always support it.

A reasoned response. Thanks.

Dan Hitchman
11-09-06, 01:19 AM
Warner Brothers is anything but neutral. Right off the bat you can tell because even when they get a BD50 for Superman Returns, they drop the TrueHD track! Hell, they could have room for an 8 channel, 24/96 uncompressed LPCM track with the BD50 because they're waisting tons of space since it's basically the same master encode used for HD-DVD put on Blu-Ray (just the cadence flags are left off the progressive video)!!!

Look at Fox, they're forward thinking by putting lossless tracks (and more than 5.1 channel masters on films that were mixed that way, like X-Men 3) on all their titles (and MGM's too). They didn't have to do it since we have to wait for new surround processors and HDMI 1.3 to listen to them, but they did because they are being forward thinkers. Warner and most of the other studios are not.

ckenisell
11-09-06, 09:27 AM
I agree with Dan on this one.

WriteSimple
11-09-06, 02:26 PM
I believe a TrueHD track would add 4.62GB on the disc. A DTS HDMA track is also possible.

Dan and others are correct - Warner is not neutral.


fuad

LAGOSIAN
11-09-06, 03:03 PM
Simple solution: Buy an HD DVD player as well, and problem solved. :)

john stephens
11-10-06, 09:51 PM
I think they are still trying to master the various codecs and determine which works and which doesn't.

You have to admit, this is much more complicated than the early days of DVD.

They don't need to master the various codecs.
BluRay is a superset of HD DVD. They can record in any of the various compression schemes, including the identical scheme used for the HD DVD offerings.

Rogervienna
03-01-07, 04:15 PM
Still exclusive to HD-DVD....

6/6 Constantine
6/6 Perfect Storm
11/7 Dukes of Hazzard
11/7 Enter the Dragon
22/8 Caddyshack
12/9 Troy
26/9 Adventures of Robin Hood
26/9 Grand Prix
26/9 Terminator 3
10/10 Batman Begins
10/10 Charlie & Chocolate Fact
10/10 Polar Express
10/10 Willy Wonka & Chocolate F
31/10 Excalibur
31/10 V for Vendetta
14/11 Casablanca
14/11 Forbidden Planet
14/11 Mutiny on the Bounty
28/11 Smallville: Fifth Season
05/12 Poseidon
19/12 Sopranos

Still 21 titles

Dirty Dozen 17/4 BD !!
Enter the dragon 17/4 BD !!