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ClayPigeon
01-08-07, 08:21 PM
Know what sucks? I've had this game for over two weeks and haven't even been able to play it yet. Got the red lights of death on my 360 on christmas, after only two months from purchasing it. Shipped my 360 to msoft repair center and bought the game for 40 bucks at target.

Rakesh.S
01-08-07, 08:27 PM
I think we have enough players here to probably have 4 teams..the problem is, most of the people that have posted gamertags hardly ever play GoW. They're always watching hd-dvds :-p

joekun
01-09-07, 03:43 AM
Just played my first onling game of GOW last night after beating the game for the first time. I was lucky and got into a pretty good server for about 2 hours. I loved it!! Only thing is I don't want to get into some other games and have bad experiences that will turn me off to the whole thing. I'd love to get in on some AVS gaming action! Unfortunately I work at night and probably won't be able to join too often. Gamertag is the same as my name on avs, Joekun.

teckademic
01-09-07, 06:40 AM
I think we have enough players here to probably have 4 teams..the problem is, most of the people that have posted gamertags hardly ever play GoW. They're always watching hd-dvds :-p

I am always on. Btw, what's everyone favorite online map? For me, it's Gridlock.

Ultimate Cap
01-09-07, 04:10 PM
Know what sucks? I've had this game for over two weeks and haven't even been able to play it yet. Got the red lights of death on my 360 on christmas, after only two months from purchasing it. Shipped my 360 to msoft repair center and bought the game for 40 bucks at target.

Get your money back for the repairs, MS just extened the warranty to a year and will pay you for you service charges,

Any one get the update working yet?

mproper
01-11-07, 08:42 AM
Man, I suck at GOW. Granted, I'm a newbie at the XBOX, and I've only played it for about 1/2 hour and didn't get very far, but here's my thoughts anyways.

I am slowly getting used to the controls (coming from a PC keyboard/mouse combo background). I am having a really hard time staying in cover, as 80% of the time, I seem to accidentally back away which makes me stand up, and then I don't realize it because of the camera angle. I'm also having a hard time lobbing grenades into the holes successfully, which also seems to be a camera thing, as the wall I'm hiding behind always seems to block my view of the trajectory. Maybe I'm just not working it right.

I did figure out that switching the controls to "high" sensitivity instead of "medium" helps me out. I can now actually track people and keep up with them, for the most part. The look joystick seems to start off slow during panning, then speeds up, which is disconcerting to me, and I tend to overshoot targets because of this change in speed. I would think if I shove the joystick all the way to the right, the speed should be consistent, and not pan slowly for the first 1/2 second, then go to full speed panning. Does that make sense?

I am also having trouble finding weapons and stuff. I always hated the old games like Doom where the weapon was spinning in the air, but at least I could find them. I ran out of grenades last night and finally found some laying around, but they weren't very noticeable. Same with the COG dogtags. I guess it's more realistic, but man, trying to find them when you're under fire is a pain. At least Ammo is easily identifiable.

One other problem I've been having is using the Y button to find your points of interest. It always seems to go to either the object/person closest to you or what you're looking at. I was having trouble actually locating the holes I was supposed to be throwing grenades into. Is there a way to cycle through these so I can find things more easily? For example, I was in a section where we were hunkered down in an old fountain, and I think three holes opened up. Sometimes when I would press Y, it would go to the hole, and sometimes it would go to one of my teammates. How can I get it to go to the hole so I can see where it is?

That sounds like a lot of complaining, but it's really not...just some issues I've been having that's most likely my inexperience at playing games like this on a console. I do like that the game is pretty immerssive and chaotic...really gives you the "you're there" feeling. I like it for the most part, just having trouble getting used to the controls and some of the other elements.

donebetter
01-11-07, 11:33 AM
Man, I suck at GOW. Granted, I'm a newbie at the XBOX, and I've only played it for about 1/2 hour and didn't get very far, but here's my thoughts anyways.

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I totally feel your pain! I blow too! Take it from someone who is no hardcore gamer, even though you may suck (your words, not mine :D ) it is probably the greatest game ever to totally hack at! So many other games I would just give up because of one reason or another. With GOW, even though I'm getting sliced down at every turn and routinely throw myself into the field of fire, even though my intent was to curl up against a nearby wall, there's something that keeps a person coming back.

virtual-human
01-11-07, 11:59 AM
One other problem I've been having is using the Y button to find your points of interest. It always seems to go to either the object/person closest to you or what you're looking at. I was having trouble actually locating the holes I was supposed to be throwing grenades into. Is there a way to cycle through these so I can find things more easily? For example, I was in a section where we were hunkered down in an old fountain, and I think three holes opened up. Sometimes when I would press Y, it would go to the hole, and sometimes it would go to one of my teammates. How can I get it to go to the hole so I can see where it is?

You can't cycle, unfortunately. The only way to see them is to quickly press and hold "Y" when the prompt to look first appears. That battle is a little tough, but if it takes you a few tries you should begin to be able to anticipate the emergence holes and be ready to lob a grenade right as they open. If you really get stuck, don't forget there's always co-op to get you through a tough part.

mproper
01-11-07, 01:17 PM
I totally feel your pain! I blow too! Take it from someone who is no hardcore gamer, even though you may suck (your words, not mine :D ) it is probably the greatest game ever to totally hack at! So many other games I would just give up because of one reason or another. With GOW, even though I'm getting sliced down at every turn and routinely throw myself into the field of fire, even though my intent was to curl up against a nearby wall, there's something that keeps a person coming back.

Glad I'm not alone. I have another newbie playing co-op with me tonight, but he has yet to play the game at all, so I'm sure it will be a riot.

RobertR1
01-11-07, 01:51 PM
I sucked horribly at GoW when I first got it. I mean BAD! it was even much worse coming from a FPS on PC where I'm used to doing good.

However, after going through Gears a few times and then Rainbow Six and then CoD3 and Resistance, FPS with a controller feels quite good :)

Just keep playing. You'll pick it up quick. Note, I liked High in the beginning because it felt closer to a mouse but after a while it was too sensitive so I went back down to medium for better accuracy.

FreeBaGeL
01-11-07, 07:05 PM
So no talk of the new updates yet? Anyone play the new maps? Any experience with the mic issue being fixed or frag-tagging being nerfed a bit?

babrown92
01-11-07, 08:32 PM
Maps are mehhh. Old Bones is ok, but Raven Down is my least favorite map by far. Mic issues are gone in my experience, and you definitely have to be closer to frag tag.

dropzone7
01-12-07, 08:38 AM
My brother and I finished the game on Casual playing coop a few weeks ago and we both agreed it was way too easy on that setting with two people. We are now playing back through on Insane in coop and it's much more fun and challenging. We finished Act 1 last night and with the exception of the Boomers we are kicking some arse! We figured playing through on Insane would make us better online multiplayer players since we really suck at that right now! I am getting comfortable with 1 or 2 of the maps now but I still seem to get owned by the shotgun most of the time. Even though I love the Lancer and chainsawing people, I'm finding that doing that just leaves you wide open for the next guy. My new strategy is stop drop and roll and shotgun to the head. The players that end the round without getting killed appear also to be the guys that stay mobile and make themselves a hard target. All of this seems obvious to others I'm sure but it has taken me a few weeks to get over the wow factor of the game and realize that these people mean business! Keep moving and be accurate or your dead in a hurry.

teckademic
01-12-07, 09:19 AM
What is it about GOW that makes my system freeze from time to time, at least every other day this happens. It's the only game that has ever made my system freeze.

timothias
01-12-07, 12:02 PM
What about the new connection error? I'm at work so I'm forgetting exactly what it says. But the game stops momentarily, and tells you to press B to quit out of the game due to your bad connection. I've had several games where people say "No, don't press anything. It's just a glitch. Started happening after the update. Give it a few seconds." And usually, if you wait, it disappears and you continue your match. But some people actually press B right away and it ruins games.

Anyone wanna chime in?

BoomerBrian
01-12-07, 12:16 PM
What about the new connection error? I'm at work so I'm forgetting exactly what it says. But the game stops momentarily, and tells you to press B to quit out of the game due to your bad connection. I've had several games where people say "No, don't press anything. It's just a glitch. Started happening after the update. Give it a few seconds." And usually, if you wait, it disappears and you continue your match. But some people actually press B right away and it ruins games.

Anyone wanna chime in?

Definitely started seeing this after the patch. Don't press B and the message should go away.

tomp34
01-12-07, 02:10 PM
My brother and I finished the game on Casual playing coop a few weeks ago and we both agreed it was way too easy on that setting with two people. We are now playing back through on Insane in coop and it's much more fun and challenging. We finished Act 1 last night and with the exception of the Boomers we are kicking some arse! We figured playing through on Insane would make us better online multiplayer players since we really suck at that right now! I am getting comfortable with 1 or 2 of the maps now but I still seem to get owned by the shotgun most of the time. Even though I love the Lancer and chainsawing people, I'm finding that doing that just leaves you wide open for the next guy. My new strategy is stop drop and roll and shotgun to the head. The players that end the round without getting killed appear also to be the guys that stay mobile and make themselves a hard target. All of this seems obvious to others I'm sure but it has taken me a few weeks to get over the wow factor of the game and realize that these people mean business! Keep moving and be accurate or your dead in a hurry.



Just keep playing man, I'm on train(last part) on insame mode playing solo. I love this game, can't put the control down, my wife just don't understand me... :D

mikebegin
01-12-07, 03:30 PM
Count me in for "mature" GoW games. I play almost every night from around 8-10pm. I usually play with a good group of guys and a few gals. Look me up!

Gamertag:
HALOKING (most of the time) or
MO5E5 (if my wife allows me to play in the living room!)

Mike

Damnationdoormat
01-14-07, 11:11 AM
Is it just me, or is the framerate a little better after the update? :confused:

My friend mentioned he saw a PQ improvement as well (he plays incessantly), even though he just has a SDTV.

teckademic
01-16-07, 09:25 AM
Lately, I been experiencing something weird on GOW. I been in a situation where I am shooting with the machine gun and all of sudden, it's like I am shooting blanks. It's weird because even the sound of the shots were different when this happened. It also happens when I am using the shotgun, but instead it will make a deep shot gun blast that sounds more laser shot of some sort. Again, this started after the update, but I haven't heard anyone talk about it here.

jgibo1
01-16-07, 10:15 AM
Lately, I been experiencing something weird on GOW. I been in a situation where I am shooting with the machine gun and all of sudden, it's like I am shooting blanks. It's weird because even the sound of the shots were different when this happened. It also happens when I am using the shotgun, but instead it will make a deep shot gun blast that sounds more laser shot of some sort. Again, this started after the update, but I haven't heard anyone talk about it here.


If you are playing Execution then you are too far away to kill them. Or you had what happened to me with the boomshot. I had shot twice but was still showing one shot left. I kept shooting it and it made a loud sound but nothing was coming out.

dropzone7
01-16-07, 01:36 PM
I was playing online the other night and heard some guys talking about unlocking a knife achievment with some combination of button presses on the controller. Anyone know anything about this? I wasn't sure if they were just messing around with other players or if it was actually true. They say it gives you a really cool looking knife if you are fast enough to get the button combo done.

marjen
01-17-07, 06:27 AM
I also have had a ton of connection issues after the update. Before the update this game was pretty much flawless for me online, now its at times pretty bad. Lots of error meesages in game and also trying to get into games.

I also have seen something weird with shooting, no its not excecution games its warzone, where I clearly down or kill someone and got no credit for it. Really strange.

Also I agree about playing against a host team. You often will lose every shotgun battle if you are on the other team. I once shot a guy 5 times up close with the shotgun and he did NOT go down. 3 of the shots were from right behind him he shot me once an i died. That sucked :(

FreeBaGeL
01-17-07, 07:27 AM
I was playing online the other night and heard some guys talking about unlocking a knife achievment with some combination of button presses on the controller. Anyone know anything about this? I wasn't sure if they were just messing around with other players or if it was actually true. They say it gives you a really cool looking knife if you are fast enough to get the button combo done.

I could be wrong, but it sounds like they were just messing with people.

Count me in as another who is having tons more connection issues since the update btw..

properbostonian
01-17-07, 07:57 AM
Just keep playing man, I'm on train(last part) on insame mode playing solo. I love this game, can't put the control down, my wife just don't understand me... :D

Tomp, I am trying to get through insane by myself as well and I am on the train but I am stuck. I am at the part when Fenix climbs the ladder and he encounters those flying blob things (Reavers?).

Does anyone know the best way to kill them? I can't seem to get to the chain gun without getting killed. Is the best method hiding behind the boxes and using the Torque Bow? My bow only has 12 shots.

mundis
01-17-07, 08:21 AM
I used the Torque Bow and when you start getting low on ammo go back to the where Dom is and replenish your supply. Repeat. Sometimes you can get lucky and knock a few out of the sky shooting through the windows. Just don't hit the window pane like I did...giblets.

corey
01-17-07, 09:12 AM
How are people able to find people in Ranked games. My buddy and I play a lot of player matches but wanted to move to ranked for the achievemants but we can't ever find each other. It seems possible becuase I am on games where too many people seem to know each other way too often for it to be a random happening?

teckademic
01-17-07, 09:23 AM
I really hate how you can saw someone from 5ft away, it's like you get sucked into the saw.

WilliamR
01-17-07, 10:16 AM
How are people able to find people in Ranked games. My buddy and I play a lot of player matches but wanted to move to ranked for the achievemants but we can't ever find each other. It seems possible becuase I am on games where too many people seem to know each other way too often for it to be a random happening?

Unless they patched it, the original GOW multi-player did not allow you to hook up with friends in a ranked game, you could in an unranked game. They said something about it helping to prevent cheating or something like that.

The Batman
01-17-07, 10:31 AM
I really hate how you can saw someone from 5ft away, it's like you get sucked into the saw.

There are a couple of things like that that bother me. Like if someone starts a curb stomp, even if your character has already stood up and is walking away, the guy still gets the kill.

And when someone is in an animation - either sawing or curb stomping - they are completely invincible. A guy was curb stoming a teammate the other night, and while he was doing it I planted a torque arrow right in his chest. It blew up without hurting the other guy because he was in the middle of the curb stomp animation and the round continued.

They gave the animations the highest priority because they look the coolest, but it screws with the gameplay a little bit.

dropzone7
01-17-07, 11:22 AM
Tomp, I am trying to get through insane by myself as well and I am on the train but I am stuck. I am at the part when Fenix climbs the ladder and he encounters those flying blob things (Reavers?).

Does anyone know the best way to kill them? I can't seem to get to the chain gun without getting killed. Is the best method hiding behind the boxes and using the Torque Bow? My bow only has 12 shots.

I had no problem with this on the Casual setting but went back and played the game on Hardcore and this scene must have taken me like a hundred tries to get through it. The chain guns are pretty much a death sentence unless you are playing coop. I could not keep up with the Reavers coming from both sides and only manning one chain gun. I found that the best strategy for me was using the torque bow and the sniper rifle. You have to pull off head shots with the sniper rifle, killing either the driver or the passenger Locust. The reaver will then drop out of the sky. I ran back and forth firing both the torque bow and sniper rifle until I had killed all of the reavers. There seemed to be many more of them on Hardcore than on Casual. Once I got in the zone with those two weapons the reavers went down like flies. This is also good practice for multiplayer as the reavers move up and down and pull right and left, forcing you to become really good with the sniper rifle. This will come in handy while trying to down enemies on the run.

SAVholic
01-17-07, 01:46 PM
I finished the game on "insane" solo. Took me a week and the 2 most difficult parts were the reivers on the train and general raam, if you complain about the reivers on "insane" wait until you get to general raam. Anyway in the train I dind't use the chainguns, just try to bring them down with one shot from the torque bow, no everyone will be shot down with one shot .When your out of ammo there should be no more than 3 reivers left, do your best take cover and use your standard weapon. There just no easy path for this game on "insane".

properbostonian
01-17-07, 02:19 PM
Thank you both for the suggestions. I don't have the sniper with me so the Bow and the Lancer will have to get me through it.

I hear you...I am NOT looking forward to facing RAAM on Insane by myself. I might cave in and ask for help. :)

dropzone7
01-17-07, 02:38 PM
Thank you both for the suggestions. I don't have the sniper with me so the Bow and the Lancer will have to get me through it.

I hear you...I am NOT looking forward to facing RAAM on Insane by myself. I might cave in and ask for help. :)

The sniper rifle should be in the room you just walked out of to get to the ladder your at now. There is a baggage rack in the middle of the room and on one side there is the sniper rifle and grenades I believe. I think the other side holds ammo for the Lancer. If you can't back up to this room it might be worth starting the chapter again to make sure you get these weapons. Otherwise it's going to be a tough go of it with only a Lancer and Torque bow.

properbostonian
01-18-07, 03:53 PM
The sniper rifle should be in the room you just walked out of to get to the ladder your at now. There is a baggage rack in the middle of the room and on one side there is the sniper rifle and grenades I believe. I think the other side holds ammo for the Lancer. If you can't back up to this room it might be worth starting the chapter again to make sure you get these weapons. Otherwise it's going to be a tough go of it with only a Lancer and Torque bow.

I can't get back into the room so I might take your advice and replay the chapter so I have the sniper rifle with me. It wasn't too difficult getting to the point I am at right now.

reshp1
01-18-07, 04:14 PM
Thank you both for the suggestions. I don't have the sniper with me so the Bow and the Lancer will have to get me through it.

I hear you...I am NOT looking forward to facing RAAM on Insane by myself. I might cave in and ask for help. :)

The checkpoint you return to when (not if :D) you get killed by Raam will start you in the car immediately before him. Look in the middle of the car, in the closet looking cavities, and there should be a sniper rifle there, so no need to restart the whole chapter.

FootballDen
01-18-07, 04:21 PM
How do you beat raam on casual playing by yourself?? Itreid it for three hours last night and almost threw the controller at the screen

BoomerBrian
01-18-07, 04:55 PM
How do you beat raam on casual playing by yourself?? Itreid it for three hours last night and almost threw the controller at the screen

I beat him with the sniper rifle. Tell DOM to cease fire. Take cover behind the crate when you first walk out of the train. Throw a grenade by Raam and the kryll will fly away. Then start tagging him with the sniper rifle. Try to get perfect reloads. When RAAM got close I ran to the other end and hid behind another crate in the light and finished him off.

AHDTVDiet
01-18-07, 05:52 PM
Take cover at the first barrier in front of you

Torque bow \ sniper rifle works but requires good hand coordination to get the perfect reloads.

Torque bow \ Lancer may work better. Hit him with a bolt and when the Kryll fly away, unload a clip into him. rinse and repeat. When he gets close, blind throw some gernades at him and blindfire your Lancer. When he starts to round the barrier make a run for the barrier on the opposite end... try to zig and zag a little to avoid being shot but also stay in the light if the Kryll are around. Take cover behind that barrier and repeat the Torquebow \ Lancer clip.

corey
01-18-07, 06:23 PM
I used Torque bow to clear the kryll and then after they left sprinted to the Lancer adn just unloaded on him. I used that meathod when i beat it on single player at casual and hardcore coop. Just make sure you don't let him get to close to you.

Quatre
01-18-07, 08:41 PM
beat Gears on coop split screen with someone on Casual. Was pretty easy and only got stopped up a few times but usually got it on 2nd or 3rd try and the end took a few tries. Then starting playing online which is great but took a little to get used to.

Some ppl are too serioius or jerks or just have no life and are too good and makes it no fun but otherwise its good. just takes time to find a good game with good ppl sometimes. it can get old too as there are only a few weapons and you learn all the maps after playing a few times.

but still i find myself coming back to play gears online comapred to the other 2 360 games i have in Prey which is laggy and Lost Planet which is cool with all the mechs but sometimes the environments are too big and you find yourself trapesing for miles and when you run out of thermal energy its annoyign to have to charg up to use weapons and mechs etc.

i do wish Gears would also add some new playable characters as that is pretty limited also. at least Prey had a ton of extra characters to dl to play as.

quickfire
01-18-07, 09:07 PM
I'm still lugging thru this game at a snails pace....i'm at the point before checking the helicopter crash........Can someone tell me why there's a multichain machinegun(atleast thats what i call it) and no enemys at this part of the game???The only thing i done was blow up the tanks that inturn blew open the fence!!!!!Why is the multichain machinegun even there.....there are no enemys!!!!???Am I missing something?

AHDTVDiet
01-19-07, 03:13 AM
What difficulty are you playing on?
This is a section just after you and your team split up, right?
Dom and Cole may have beat you to the area and killed the guy on the Troikra.

Hmmm, now I have a reason to replay AGAIN :D

KShep
01-19-07, 10:09 AM
I'm still lugging thru this game at a snails pace....i'm at the point before checking the helicopter crash........Can someone tell me why there's a multichain machinegun(atleast thats what i call it) and no enemys at this part of the game???The only thing i done was blow up the tanks that inturn blew open the fence!!!!!Why is the multichain machinegun even there.....there are no enemys!!!!???Am I missing something?
You and Dom have been split up and are just rejoining....you've already killed the combatants that manned the Troika (multichain machinegun). Just walk through the fence you opened by igniting the propane tanks and the next mission will begin.

After the cut sceen.... If I remember correctly you should roadie run thruogh the Trokia fire to and flank right....there is a passageway that allows you to toss a nade at the Trokia. If you take too long you'll be met by a Locust or Grunt.

quickfire
01-19-07, 12:39 PM
Im now stuck on the 2nd Berzerker.....Is there a trick or pattern to getting past it?

dropzone7
01-19-07, 01:44 PM
Im now stuck on the 2nd Berzerker.....Is there a trick or pattern to getting past it?

I think your talking about the one in the big greenhouse. If so then you need to use the same bait and dive tactic you did with the first one. Stand near the columns that support the roof of the building and have her take those out. I'm not saying you need to do all of them but that's what I did. One in particular will clear the way for you. I won't say much more than that so that we leave something to the imagination. Good luck!

KShep
01-19-07, 05:35 PM
I thought you had to take out like seven columns for the 2nd 'zerker. kind of a pain that one....see if you can enlist a co-op partner if possible....or turning down the audio might help.

What'sHD
01-20-07, 12:55 PM
How many torque bow shots plus how many bullets does it take to kill RAAM on insane?

I have had it.. 100 tries or so and counting. Patience is wearing rather thin :mad:

P.S. I am quite useless with a sniper rifle, so that route is out.

SAVholic
01-21-07, 12:11 AM
How many torque bow shots plus how many bullets does it take to kill RAAM on insane?

I have had it.. 100 tries or so and counting. Patience is wearing rather thin :mad:

P.S. I am quite useless with a sniper rifle, so that route is out.


For me it took 12 "full force" torque bow shots all of the grenades and like 4 or 5 magazines form the lancer. If you rush to kill him its game over, so take your time and think all your moves. good luck!

What'sHD
01-21-07, 12:57 AM
thanks dude. Will follow your advice

Wozzer73
01-21-07, 07:48 AM
GoW is fantastic but I have to admit I got a little bored of it....maybe it's not so much *boredom* as it is that I really liked playing ghost recon. Now I have to complete Rainbow Six. *sigh* so many games, so little time *grin*

palofex
01-21-07, 06:13 PM
I've been playing Gears for about 1.5 months and I still log on every single night for hours. I love this game.

Randito3
01-21-07, 06:43 PM
My brother talked me into buying the 360 and Gears of War about a week ago. I love playing Multiplayer. We are co-oping the game, he beat it once already so we are going through it as a team. I will not get tired of the Multiplayer game for some time. It's what I prefer to play. I play this game in my home theater on my 115" screen. Looks absolutely fantastic.




Randy

Jdog35
01-22-07, 02:29 AM
I gotta tell you guys, I can't goddamned stand getting shotgunned from 20 feet away anymore! I'm sick to death of lighting a guy up with an assualt rifle, all in the chest, and he/she just barrels right through it to put a shotgun round in me (which obviously kills me instantly from 10-15 feet away because, well, that's what always happens). I'm sorry, but if you are taking 50 rounds in the chest, head, legs, feet, arms, hands, crotch, etc. you are not going to walk right through it and put a shotgun in someone's face. God I'm sick of that crap. That, and the chainsaw never works right for me online. I'm always getting caught reving the damned thing only to get cut in half myself. That's it, I'm done venting. This game will not be played online anymore without people I know (i.e. all y'all).

properbostonian
01-22-07, 07:54 AM
I gotta tell you guys, I can't goddamned stand getting shotgunned from 20 feet away anymore! I'm sick to death of lighting a guy up with an assualt rifle, all in the chest, and he/she just barrels right through it to put a shotgun round in me (which obviously kills me instantly from 10-15 feet away because, well, that's what always happens). I'm sorry, but if you are taking 50 rounds in the chest, head, legs, feet, arms, hands, crotch, etc. you are not going to walk right through it and put a shotgun in someone's face. God I'm sick of that crap. That, and the chainsaw never works right for me online. I'm always getting caught reving the damned thing only to get cut in half myself. That's it, I'm done venting. This game will not be played online anymore without people I know (i.e. all y'all).
I hear you! I'm pretty much done with matchmaking for Gears. Last night I hit someone with three shotgun blasts. He doesn't go down. He starts backpeddling and drops me with one shot!!!

In fact, I would not be playing MP at all if it weren't for the league I'm in. I belong to an online gaming community and we play once a week.

I still love the SP and I am on the train just about to get to RAAM (but I am having problems getting past the Reavers!!)

jgibo1
01-22-07, 11:53 AM
I almost gave up last night. Then switched to hosting. No lag for me or anyone. No stacking, Everyone had fun. Some came back for 4 more matches. All matches but one were one by 1 round playing first to 7.

virtual-human
01-22-07, 12:03 PM
I hear you! I'm pretty much done with matchmaking for Gears. Last night I hit someone with three shotgun blasts. He doesn't go down. He starts backpeddling and drops me with one shot!!!

In fact, I would not be playing MP at all if it weren't for the league I'm in. I belong to an online gaming community and we play once a week.
Lag issues aside, which I think are an overplayed card, frankly (as evidenced to me by extensive player matches with skilled shotty friends both on- and off-host), there is an inherent randomness to the shotgun. It is what it is, and I don't quite understand why everybody hates that so much.

Having said that, I also believe (and no offense meant to anyone) that lack of skill/practice is confused with that inherent randomness. There are several things that you can do to increase your kill percentage. First, and most important, do not hold the Left-trigger aim down! Second, don't aim high; aim for the belly. Third, find the sweet spot in range (approx. 3-7 feet). Last, turn your sensitivity to high (aids in quicker adjustments/reactions/strafing).

Hope that helps.

dropzone7
01-22-07, 12:54 PM
I consider myself a slow learner when it comes to these games and GOW has been no different for me. I'm not looking to make leaderboard positions or glitch into places the developers never intended us to go. I just want to have fun with the game and even though I'm getting my arse kicked 80% of the time, it's still pretty darn fun. I agree that the shotgun is very random in it's effectiveness. Virtual-Human, I started shooting from the hip and not using the left trigger like you say about a week ago. I agree this helps and my kill percentage has improved with this technique. However, I still have the occasional face to face dual with the shotgun where I come out on the losing end and just scratch my head as to how it happened. I love playing rounds where the team sticks together and revives each other. I am very much a team player but often don't get into that kind of match and end up getting mowed down quickly. I don't mind getting pwned on a regular basis as long as the other team are not being jackasses which more times than not they are.

Jdog35
01-22-07, 01:52 PM
Virtual, I was not using lag as an excuse for my rant. As a Halo veteran, I understand when a game lags and when it doesn't. But you said it yourself "an inherent randomness" with the shotgun...this just shouldn't be. My frustration comes with some of the weapons balancing issues, as well as the physics of ability in the game online. You flat out should not be able to walk through a barrage of bullets hitting you in the chest, only to down a guy with your shotgun as though you were made of teflon. That was my main gripe. It is exacerbated by host issues (which happen a lot less frequently in GOW than Halo), but it is still intrinsic to the game itself, hence my frustration.

maximuslcd
01-22-07, 02:11 PM
since the patch, my friend and I tried saturday night for 45 mins to join each other in online co-op...it kept saying connection to host has been lost..yet we could go join other peeps rooms? anyone else have this problem. I have never had a problem joing friend rooms before

Traxion82
01-22-07, 02:27 PM
How many torque bow shots plus how many bullets does it take to kill RAAM on insane?

I have had it.. 100 tries or so and counting. Patience is wearing rather thin :mad:

P.S. I am quite useless with a sniper rifle, so that route is out.

The easiest way I have found to beat Raam was to have the torque bow and sniper rifle. I know you said you are not good with it, but there is no better time than the present to get better. First off stay in a lighted area behind cover so the krill cant get to you when they scatter. Use your torque bow when they are around Raam and hit him with it. They will scatter and quickly switch to your sniper and hit him in the head and if you can active reload the rifle and get another shot off anywhere on him its way quicker. It does take some time to take him down, but it should do the job.

CW

LR6AGB001
01-22-07, 02:47 PM
Torque Bow, grenades and lancer will do the trick. I've done it on Insane twice just for kicks and once to help out a buddy online. Here's an example...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_jyTEHwy0A

virtual-human
01-22-07, 05:50 PM
Virtual, I was not using lag as an excuse for my rant. As a Halo veteran, I understand when a game lags and when it doesn't. But you said it yourself "an inherent randomness" with the shotgun...this just shouldn't be. My frustration comes with some of the weapons balancing issues, as well as the physics of ability in the game online. You flat out should not be able to walk through a barrage of bullets hitting you in the chest, only to down a guy with your shotgun as though you were made of teflon. That was my main gripe. It is exacerbated by host issues (which happen a lot less frequently in GOW than Halo), but it is still intrinsic to the game itself, hence my frustration.
Jdog, I hear you, and I wasn't quoting your post. I'm not saying that you or anyone else in particular is trying to use lag as an excuse. As for the (IMO relatively small, as opposed to popular perception, degree of) inherent randomness, I don't judge it. It is what it is. Perhaps it is an attempt to balance what could otherwise be an overpowering weapon, by not guaranteeing an instant kill. If you burst somebody into chunks of flesh with one hit each time you hit them from less than 10 feet, that's all anybody would do and this game wouldn't be much fun. Again, if there was never that instant-kill, the shotgun could be easily abandoned for the lancer or even the pistol. In my humble opinion, it's actually really well balanced with the lancer, the pistol, etc. between its potent, but not guaranteed, firepower and its lower melee damage.

It sounds to me like your beef is with the relative lack of damage that the lancer bullets do. My advice, if you really like that weapon, is to get perfect reloads and/or fall back as you pump them full of lead. It's not and (again, IMO) shouldn't be more powerful, especially given the more powerful melee option of chainsawing. With respect to your online issues with chainsawing, those might be from getting stunned by somebody else's weapon, which does cause a noticeable refractory period, the initial rev even without stun, or maybe even legitimate lag. (Personally, one of my biggest issues with the game is the invulnerability granted to a player while chainsawing, which I hope is fixed soon.)

Lastly, you may be experiencing people hitting "A" and rolling toward you with the shotgun. Rolling negates any stun effect from getting hit by bullets or from melee, thereby allowing them to shove a barrel in your face pretty quickly. Again, use perfect reloads and/or fall back while shooting. Also, don't forget that they are taking damage; you might have downed them with just one more bullet...

FreeBaGeL
01-22-07, 09:36 PM
Some tips I can give to those struggling with Lancer vs. shotgun...

1) If you're shooting someone with a lancer as they come towards you with a shotty and you don't have a perfect reload, aim for the head or aim for the knees (2nd highest damage spot of the game), not the chest.

2) WALK BACKWARDS!!! I can't stress this enough. I've seen lots of guys have great success with the lancer at medium/close range, they all walk backwards as they shoot if someone is trying to come at them with the shotgun. If you don't, you'll die. That simple.

3) Get perfect reloads. I'll often empty my lancer down to one bullet at the start of a round so I can go ahead and get a PR when meeting up with the enemy. This is especially true on a map like Gridlock where the teams often hit that chokepoint at the stairs by the sniper, you can down almost their whole team on one clip.

4) If they barrell roll towards you, dive to the side. As soon as they pop up from the roll if you're still standing still and spraying they're going to have the shotgun aimed dead at your chest from point blank range and you will blow up every time. If they roll sideways that's fine, if they roll at you and you don't move you're dead.

As far as the inconsistency with the shotty goes I think a lot of the games' judgement has to do with how many bullets from the spread hit the player. This means that usually to blow a player up you'll need to be close because the spread is tighter, but if you happen to get lucky you just might point it exactly right so that even at a larger spread from a distance all the bullets still hit the guy, though this is more rare.

Most of the people I see struggling with the shotgun are the guys I see squaring their shoulders and strafing side to side while dueling with it, leaving them at a bit of a distance from their opponent. You want to strafe diagonally towards your opponent and shoot (actually press fire as you're strafing diagonally to the side and towards them) so that you're close when your shot goes off, and then back diagonally away from them while your guy re-cocks and presumably while they shoot.

It took me a lot of gameplay and messing around with a buddy in an empty server to come to these conclusions (or estimations) so hopefully they help someone else out there without having to put in all the effort.

Quatre
01-23-07, 02:06 AM
some good tips on here. problem is as good as Gears is online it does kind of get old. they need more characters to choose from on both sides and more weapons , maps and types of games. Capture the flag would be amazing in this game i think with ppl protecting the flag carrier etc.

there is a lot of stuff that seems cheap and while some is skill and or lag or host benefitting from some adding advantage of some kind which i'm still not clear exactly what it is (more health or stronger firepower or both) but there does seem to be a randomness that is frustrating when you end up on the losing end more often then not whether its saw vs. saw or shotty vs. shotty.

original i thought it was somewhat of a rock paper scissors type of thing in finding the best weapon to use against someone depending on what they were using and while that is part of it, it seems the randomness still comes into play so you find yourself getting killed in the opposite weapon combo that got killed the previous time but that i guess is more randomness and or higher skilled player getting you.

problem with any online game you have these guys that play too much and are too good so if you are just coming in now and then to have fun you are going to get killed and then therefore not like the game. but i think in this game more so ten some pc fps's etc. newbs can still have some fun and satisfaction but yeah there should be a way to play ppl of your skill level.

even justowning 3 games all with mult online ability though, its tough to give them all some online play time. Then there is online demos to dl and while talkinga bout Gears makes me want to play it online again after vowing to take a break from it aftermy last 11 hour stint i think i'm sucked into the ridiculousness of the Phantasy Star Universe demo which seems likeyou could play for 100's of hours just with the demo which i have yet to see any limitation to or what the full game has that the demo doesn't

plus its just a riot on there with all the ppl and stuff ppl say and do. you end up going on there to just joke and mess around with some buddies and what not where as in gears its just instant kill or be killed action.

now it got late being on the forums and i have less time to play online and have to decide which to play. i really need to give Lost Planet some more time online and soon my free mo of gold will be running out. i think i can get a free month 2 more times then will have to see what to do.

i guess a year of gold is best value but i dont know hwo much i'll use it plus i have a baby on the way so i'm mostly just trying to get my gaming in now that I'm assuming i wont get to do as much if at all, once the stork arrives.

Jdog35
01-23-07, 02:30 AM
Thanks virtual. You made my point too with what you said as well. The guy can barrel past a barrage of bullets without taking damage, and frag you with a shotty. On the other hand, you can get your chainsaw going, and any little hit is going to mess up your rev/cutting ability. That, to me, seems unfair and unbalanced. That's my biggest issue. Halo, while not the say all end all of games, can be a little overboard with the ammo required to kill someone. However, not considering lag/standbye/mods/etc., the game does a better job at balancing out being fired upon and your ability to walk through that fire. I don't personally recall having my shotgun out and being able to walk through someone's assault rifle blast without taking serious damage (and usually dying because of it). That's my main gripe with GOW.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not bad at GOW and just complaining. I would like to think I'm pretty good at it, and usually do well. I feel bad on the receiving end, and guilty on the dishing end, when it comes to that shotgun issue is all. It turns me into a sniping camper because I don't want to deal with the close-range stuff, and that gets old (as well as gets people pissed off at me pretty consistently). I just don't like being "that" guy:)

Oh, and virtual, if you feel like it, send me a friend request to JDog35. Stick a note on it saying it's you (I get a lot of crazy requests from random people on Halo ALL the time). Peace out.

FreeBaGeL
01-23-07, 07:36 AM
On the other hand, you can get your chainsaw going, and any little hit is going to mess up your rev/cutting ability. That, to me, seems unfair and unbalanced.

Wait...so you're saying the saw is unbalanced in terms of being underpowered?? Heh, may be the first time I've ever heard that claim, it's generally the opposite.

Halo, while not the say all end all of games, can be a little overboard with the ammo required to kill someone. However, not considering lag/standbye/mods/etc., the game does a better job at balancing out being fired upon and your ability to walk through that fire. I don't personally recall having my shotgun out and being able to walk through someone's assault rifle blast without taking serious damage (and usually dying because of it). That's my main gripe with GOW.


I don't think anyone's walking through it without taking a lot of damage and I assure you that big red skull is forming on their screen, as has been mentioned it's just not quite enough before they get there if you're not aiming for the weakspots, taking a few steps backwards as you shoot, or using a perfect reload.

properbostonian
01-23-07, 08:31 AM
The easiest way I have found to beat Raam was to have the torque bow and sniper rifle. I know you said you are not good with it, but there is no better time than the present to get better. First off stay in a lighted area behind cover so the krill cant get to you when they scatter. Use your torque bow when they are around Raam and hit him with it. They will scatter and quickly switch to your sniper and hit him in the head and if you can active reload the rifle and get another shot off anywhere on him its way quicker. It does take some time to take him down, but it should do the job.

CW


Thanks everyone for your advice. I finally got past the Reavers on the train. Next stop: RAAM on Insane. Can't friggin' wait!

virtual-human
01-23-07, 11:36 AM
Thanks virtual. You made my point too with what you said as well. The guy can barrel past a barrage of bullets without taking damage, and frag you with a shotty. On the other hand, you can get your chainsaw going, and any little hit is going to mess up your rev/cutting ability. That, to me, seems unfair and unbalanced. That's my biggest issue. Halo, while not the say all end all of games, can be a little overboard with the ammo required to kill someone. However, not considering lag/standbye/mods/etc., the game does a better job at balancing out being fired upon and your ability to walk through that fire. I don't personally recall having my shotgun out and being able to walk through someone's assault rifle blast without taking serious damage (and usually dying because of it). That's my main gripe with GOW.
Well... I didn't make your point; I'm saying that I think they are balanced well with respect to each other :p. At least in the matches I play with people of equal skill level. Though I am not sure whether the devs intended players to exploit the no-stun-roll. It is and should be a severe gamble to shotty charge out in the open when under fire. Also, I have found that in the rock-paper-scissors of weapons, the pistol trumps the shotgun charge a little better than the lancer. This is because bullets stun and then if they close before you drop them (and the pistol shots are potent enough to drop), the pistol melee is great - a thousand times more effective than trying to rev the saw. Even a couple of shots on their way in should let you drop them with one melee. And the shotty is not consistent enough in one-hit-kills to render this ineffective.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not bad at GOW and just complaining. I would like to think I'm pretty good at it, and usually do well. I feel bad on the receiving end, and guilty on the dishing end, when it comes to that shotgun issue is all. It turns me into a sniping camper because I don't want to deal with the close-range stuff, and that gets old (as well as gets people pissed off at me pretty consistently). I just don't like being "that" guy:)
The sniper is my favorite weapon as well, though I must confess I have taken to frequent shotgun usage as of late. :eek:

Oh, and virtual, if you feel like it, send me a friend request to JDog35. Stick a note on it saying it's you (I get a lot of crazy requests from random people on Halo ALL the time). Peace out.
Freeing up a space for you now. I'll be hosting tonight for the A.G.E. (adultgamingenthusiasts.com) Gears Game Night, and I'll send you an invite if I have space in the room and I see you on. Fair warning though, expect friendly fire on and some power weapons swapped in (such as, for example, changing frags to boom, pistol to hammer and hammerburst to snipe). I generally host 5 round execution 10 sec downs. Other than Tues, I have no problem playing off-host as well. Hope to see you around if me using the shotty doesn't put you off ;).

Jdog35
01-23-07, 01:09 PM
Thanks virtual. I'll look forward to it. I absolutely agree with the pistol technique too, and I'm rather whore-ish about it as well:)

Cyborg6971
01-24-07, 04:54 AM
Hey virtual if you have any room on your friends list please consider putting me on it. The games with you and niz8 are the by far the best and everyone who is in the match are friendly and kind even with my subpar track record. I've tried sending a friend request to you but your so popular that your list is full. I may be quite on the mic but that's only because my little one is sleeping. And if i wake her up my wife would be p.o'd. I switch from nights and days for my job and on nights now so it's a little tough to get on. Peace out.

virtual-human
01-24-07, 10:58 AM
Added, Cyborg. Thanks for the kind words :o. Always good games.

Shape
01-24-07, 11:13 AM
Swapping out the hammerburst is just common sense. Good games last night, Virtual.

I'm getting used to having friendly fire on. Makes it more interesting.

BoomerBrian
01-24-07, 11:36 AM
Swapping out the hammerburst is just common sense. Good games last night, Virtual.

I'm getting used to having friendly fire on. Makes it more interesting.

HeHe! Yeah you learned not to cross in front of me when I have a boom shot. :D

Shape
01-24-07, 11:42 AM
HeHe! Yeah you learned not to cross in front of me when I have a boom shot. :D

Let's just say that your screen name now makes more sense to me. :D

BoomerBrian
01-24-07, 11:56 AM
Let's just say that your screen name now makes more sense to me. :D

I played horrible last night. I could not get anything going at all. I have been playing alot of RB6 lately. I think that is screwing up my Gears mojo. After playing RB6 alot when I go back to Gears the pace is so fast I have a hard time adjusting.

virtual-human
01-24-07, 01:03 PM
Good games, Shape =). Boomer, you weren't horrible, and I've been jumping into Vegas a bit lately and I know what you mean. LT does not get me into cover...

Shape, FF and swaps have added a bunch more zest to the game for me. Though I still loved it, it was getting a little stale until playing around with those. There is no way, however, to refer to having HoDs up top on Escalation, as "stale". (Not that we did that one last night, but I gamed Sun & Mon with that.)

FreeBaGeL
01-24-07, 05:59 PM
Heh hammers on top in escalation? Did the bottom team ever win a round?

virtual-human
01-24-07, 06:15 PM
Heh hammers on top in escalation? Did the bottom team ever win a round?
Yeah, plenty. It shifted the slight advantage of the bottom team to a slight advantage for the top one, but with booms in for frags and snipes (or torque, the night before) in for the hammerburst, giving the bottom snipes and booms against the top's HoD and snipes/torques, the firepower for both sides was pretty even.

Shape
01-24-07, 06:37 PM
Oh, I missed the torque bow sub on escalation! Damnit! :) Gotta try that.

virtual-human
01-24-07, 07:11 PM
Oh, I missed the torque bow sub on escalation! Damnit! :) Gotta try that.
It was good. I preferred snipers in for the hammerburst in general for the maps, though.

Jdog35
01-25-07, 01:38 AM
Wow, so yeah, I guess not having a mic is really costing me. That, and I have NO CLUE where in the hell all the weapons are yet on your reset maps virtual. And I swear to God, I was only whoreish with the Hammer in order to survive. That, and it was the only damned weapon I could find/run into on a consistent basis. For anybody who hasn't played with this group, it is hands down the #1 bunch of guys I've ever played with. I literally licked Locust balls tonight, and they didn't make fun of me, scream, or anything else. Thanks guys, I'm enjoying this game again now.

virtual-human
01-25-07, 02:14 AM
Yeah, not having a mic is a deficit to both you and your teammates as you can't call out your/enemy movement etc.

Weapons spawn in same place, just swapped, e.g. if you know where frags are on the maps, then you know where the boom is.

Thanks for the kind words. We're all just on there to have fun, not to beat each other up for having a bad night. I sucked tonight too. And BTW, all the AVS/AGE guys I have played with (well over 100) are all like the room tonight. :)

WilliamR
01-25-07, 09:00 AM
Shouldn't this be removed as a sticky now, the game has been out for ahwile.

dabilee01
01-25-07, 10:42 AM
hey guys, if you ever need an extra person to fill up a spot, my gamertag is dAbiLeE.

i'd love to play with you guys.

Quatre
01-25-07, 05:12 PM
Well... I didn't make your point; I'm saying that I think they are balanced well with respect to each other :p. At least in the matches I play with people of equal skill level. Though I am not sure whether the devs intended players to exploit the no-stun-roll. It is and should be a severe gamble to shotty charge out in the open when under fire. Also, I have found that in the rock-paper-scissors of weapons, the pistol trumps the shotgun charge a little better than the lancer. This is because bullets stun and then if they close before you drop them (and the pistol shots are potent enough to drop), the pistol melee is great - a thousand times more effective than trying to rev the saw. Even a couple of shots on their way in should let you drop them with one melee. And the shotty is not consistent enough in one-hit-kills to render this ineffective.


The sniper is my favorite weapon as well, though I must confess I have taken to frequent shotgun usage as of late. :eek:


Freeing up a space for you now. I'll be hosting tonight for the A.G.E. (adultgamingenthusiasts.com) Gears Game Night, and I'll send you an invite if I have space in the room and I see you on. Fair warning though, expect friendly fire on and some power weapons swapped in (such as, for example, changing frags to boom, pistol to hammer and hammerburst to snipe). I generally host 5 round execution 10 sec downs. Other than Tues, I have no problem playing off-host as well. Hope to see you around if me using the shotty doesn't put you off ;).


you just got done saying how great pistol is yet you sub the hammer of all things in for it? hammer is a bs wmd. frag to boom isn't bad, i've seen tourque bow but boom makes more sense. have to put the tourqe bow in there somewhere though cus its not in all maps and its a fun weapon requiring skill like the sniper.

i dont think the guys hould feel bad about sniping. sniping isn't easy even from far and camping.

what is hammerburst though? oh the burst gun, that is kind of an underrated weapon in that it seems it can kill quicker then lancer it just doesnt' have the saw so noone wants to use cus it campaign you never want it for that reason either.

adult gaming enthus? nice, i've gotten used to just stooping to the kids levels, talking trash and generally acting immature which can be fun sometimes but yeah i might want to look into other adults to play with being i'm 31 married and with a baby on the way and my wife makes fun of the low brow gaming conversation hears not to mention when you have to raise your voice at these kids to be heard and the yelling wakes her up, i'm already down a floor but may have to move down another floor to basement for late night online gaming on the mic.

virtual-human
01-25-07, 05:40 PM
you just got done saying how great pistol is yet you sub the hammer of all things in for it? hammer is a bs wmd.
The Boltok Pistol pickup, which i swap out, is garbage (because of the rate of fire). The default pistol, which cannot be removed from your inventory, is great.

Not sure whether you're saying that the HoD sucks or that it sucks because it's too powerful... :confused:

Quatre
01-25-07, 10:30 PM
oh ok on the pistol. hod just sucks cus its like a cheap weapon and its mostly luck not skill. i guess its fun though.

Jdog35
01-26-07, 12:15 AM
The only real skill in the HOD is being decent at dragging the laser beam (not attached to the shark's forehead) across the map to kill someone. That's not only kinda difficult, it's entertaining as well:)

Jdog35
01-26-07, 12:15 AM
Oh, and it's also great to fire at your feet when someone is coming at you with a shotgun roll. Nothing like a little suicide HOD to really confuse the enemy.

FreeBaGeL
01-26-07, 07:35 AM
Ya know, everyone talks about how the hammer of dawn is easy to use, but then I watch people use it and laugh. Most people use it terribly. Sure they get the easy kill here and there on the guy running blindly out in the open, and anyone can get 5 kills in a first to 5 match with it. But the guys getting 19 kills with it in a first to 5 match are generally the ones you'd see getting a ton of kills with any gun because they're that skilled. Most of the people that say it's easy to use generally suck with it and think they're good because they killed a couple guys here and there.

FWIW they did a great job balancing the weapon in terms of placement. It's available to both teams in Rooftops where you rarely have a downward shot with it and where most of the walls/textures and even much of the ground won't lock, you really have to know the good placement spots for it on that map. On Fuel Depot it's much easier to lock (though they still did a good job with few places of elevation which would've made things too easy) but they put it right in the middle creating a natural chokepoint. It's always funny to me when a team just gives up the Hammer every round without so much as a fight and then complains about it.

BoomerBrian
01-26-07, 07:47 AM
Ya know, everyone talks about how the hammer of dawn is easy to use, but then I watch people use it and laugh. Most people use it terribly. Sure they get the easy kill here and there on the guy running blindly out in the open, and anyone can get 5 kills in a first to 5 match with it. But the guys getting 19 kills with it in a first to 5 match are generally the ones you'd see getting a ton of kills with any gun because they're that skilled. Most of the people that say it's easy to use generally suck with it and think they're good because they killed a couple guys here and there.

FWIW they did a great job balancing the weapon in terms of placement. It's available to both teams in Rooftops where you rarely have a downward shot with it and where most of the walls/textures and even much of the ground won't lock, you really have to know the good placement spots for it on that map. On Fuel Depot it's much easier to lock (though they still did a good job with few places of elevation which would've made things too easy) but they put it right in the middle creating a natural chokepoint. It's always funny to me when a team just gives up the Hammer every round without so much as a fight and then complains about it.

I have yet to play with anyone that can dominate with the HoD. It is funny to watch the laser chase people down but everytime I play the guy with the HoD gets taken out pretty quick because he get bumrushed with the shotgun.

virtual-human
01-26-07, 10:13 AM
Ya know, everyone talks about how the hammer of dawn is easy to use, but then I watch people use it and laugh. Most people use it terribly. Sure they get the easy kill here and there on the guy running blindly out in the open, and anyone can get 5 kills in a first to 5 match with it. But the guys getting 19 kills with it in a first to 5 match are generally the ones you'd see getting a ton of kills with any gun because they're that skilled. Most of the people that say it's easy to use generally suck with it and think they're good because they killed a couple guys here and there.
I agree. It's hard to use well.

I have yet to play with anyone that can dominate with the HoD.
Kenshiro... but I think he doesn't use it often for that reason.

Mr Pink57
01-26-07, 12:10 PM
What did this last update do for us? I find now that when someone leaves the game I get the disconnect error until there gone. Also it seems the pistol is not as powerful as it was before after this update, and the chainsaw (which I hate oh so much) is easier for people to lock on now.

pink

ballalos
01-26-07, 12:24 PM
What did this last update do for us? I find now that when someone leaves the game I get the disconnect error until there gone. Also it seems the pistol is not as powerful as it was before after this update, and the chainsaw (which I hate oh so much) is easier for people to lock on now.

pink

The error comes from the audio channel being freed up from the person that dropped. Not sure if there will be a fix for the error ... I laugh when people drop becuase of the error. Be patient and it will clear in a few seconds.

As far as the pistol being less powerful and the chainsaw locking on easier... I have noticed it.

Mr Pink57
01-26-07, 12:57 PM
I mean I could get a few headshots a game off of the pistol in the past. However I had not picked up the game in a while. Little did I know using the pistol a bit into the game I found out the hard way and got dominated with a chainsaw gun (bullets not chainsaw itself). I guess they did not want to be compared to Halo where the pistol truely rules the land.

And also with the chainsaw it seems they pull to you right away. I remember in the past people fighting to move around you to lock on (whcih I liked).

pink

BoomerBrian
01-26-07, 02:33 PM
What did this last update do for us? I find now that when someone leaves the game I get the disconnect error until there gone. Also it seems the pistol is not as powerful as it was before after this update, and the chainsaw (which I hate oh so much) is easier for people to lock on now.

pink

I noticed the chainsaw as well. Since the update I have been a chainsawing fool :D

I used it several times last night but put it away after a while and started using the shotgun because I felt bad.

Shape
01-26-07, 08:56 PM
Well crap, my internet is down. Something on the pole. Stupid Charter. So no Gears of War for me this weekend. :(

I'm piggybacking onto one of the 10 wireless networks that apparently surround my house, btw. :)

cdhender
01-27-07, 02:40 PM
Quick question about the single player campaign. Once I finish it, will I be able to go back and play certain acts all over again? Or will I have to start the entire campaign all over?

blahsome
01-29-07, 08:06 AM
Do you have to complete an act entirely at the same level before unlocking the achievement for that level?

I was trying to finish act 2 on hardcore, and mistakenly selected casual half into the act. I realized enemies were too easy to kill after a couple of checkpoints, so I quit and reverted back to hardcore. However, I don't think I unlocked any achievement at the end of act 2.

BTW, where is the end of act 2? Is it where after a fierce firefight with snipers and emergence holes, you finish off three boomers with the leaking gas tank? If so, I'm sure I was well back on hardcore at that particular scene.

It'd suck to go back to the very beginning to play all the way to where I screwed up again. Any ideas?

Thanks.

browerjs
01-29-07, 09:02 AM
Do you have to complete an act entirely at the same level before unlocking the achievement for that level?

I was trying to finish act 2 on hardcore, and mistakenly selected casual half into the act. I realized enemies were too easy to kill after a couple of checkpoints, so I quit and reverted back to hardcore. However, I don't think I unlocked any achievement at the end of act 2.

BTW, where is the end of act 2? Is it where after a fierce firefight with snipers and emergence holes, you finish off three boomers with the leaking gas tank? If so, I'm sure I was well back on hardcore at that particular scene.

It'd suck to go back to the very beginning to play all the way to where I screwed up again. Any ideas?

Thanks.

You can go to scene select and see what difficulty you have beat each scene on... It definately comes in handy so you don't have to redo large portions of the game to get the difficulty achievements... I wish they showed which scenes you have beaten with Dom on co-op too, oh well...

blahsome
01-29-07, 10:38 AM
You can go to scene select and see what difficulty you have beat each scene on... It definately comes in handy so you don't have to redo large portions of the game to get the difficulty achievements... I wish they showed which scenes you have beaten with Dom on co-op too, oh well...

So I can jump to any particular scene? I didn't notice such an option before.

Thanks a lot.

Vizcaya
01-29-07, 04:57 PM
I hope someone can explain this. I just got this game yesterday, and am having a blast. The one problem I have is changing weapons at certain times of the game. During a fight, I press up on the D-Pad to choose a frag grenade but the weapon does not change, I am stuck with the same weapon. I try other weapon classes, with no luck. Then for no reason I can change weapons at other times in the game with no problems.


Not having anymore problems, not sure what the issue was.

Played a couple hours last night, had a tough time putting it down. This is quickly becoming the best game I have played since FightNight round 3.

Jdog35
01-30-07, 02:07 AM
Another fabulous evening of death and boomer-destruction. I think I'm starting to figure out your maps a little better Virtual. The learning curve on this game is EXTREMELY steep, but once you get it, it is a kick in the pants (or a frag in your arse).

cokebear
01-30-07, 03:04 PM
After reading the last couple of pages I think some of you guys aren't giving the hammerburst it's just due. You have to think of it as a pistol that's just a little weak with bullets but stronger with the melee. In the right hands the thing is deadly.

Anyway my tag is CokeBear and if you don't mind it taking me 2 or 8 rounds to get warmed up then add me to your FL. Everyone should send the message with AVS so I have an idea where it's coming from. Hope to blast a few of you into little teeny tiny pieces.

tcs007
01-30-07, 09:47 PM
After reading the last couple of pages I think some of you guys aren't giving the hammerburst it's just due. You have to think of it as a pistol that's just a little weak with bullets but stronger with the melee. In the right hands the thing is deadly.
Shut up dood. You're giving away one of my secrets :D

A Hammerburst with an active reload will drop someone in 6-9 bullets. ;)

virtual-human
01-31-07, 09:53 AM
Another fabulous evening of death and boomer-destruction. I think I'm starting to figure out your maps a little better Virtual. The learning curve on this game is EXTREMELY steep, but once you get it, it is a kick in the pants (or a frag in your arse).
Glad you enjoyed, hope your bro did too.

cdhender
01-31-07, 04:17 PM
I hope someone can explain this. I just got this game yesterday, and am having a blast. The one problem I have is changing weapons at certain times of the game. During a fight, I press up on the D-Pad to choose a frag grenade but the weapon does not change, I am stuck with the same weapon. I try other weapon classes, with no luck. Then for no reason I can change weapons at other times in the game with no problems.


Not having anymore problems, not sure what the issue was.

Played a couple hours last night, had a tough time putting it down. This is quickly becoming the best game I have played since FightNight round 3.


I had this problem when I first started playing. It usually happened when I was doing a bad reload. Make sure youre not trying to reload at the same time.

Once you get the hang of doing active reloads, the game is so much cooler.

mproper
01-31-07, 04:26 PM
I had this problem when I first started playing. It usually happened when I was doing a bad reload. Make sure youre not trying to reload at the same time.

Once you get the hang of doing active reloads, the game is so much cooler.

I usually have the same problem. It takes me at least 3 attempts to get out a grenade. Switching to other weapons doesn't seem to be a problem though.

earl2095
02-03-07, 10:30 PM
Has anyone noticed when playing certain peeps online, they have cheats?? Like being able to "float" across the screen and also get on top of walls?? When searching for cheats, they're aren't any so wonder how these peeps found em??
I love it otherwise though. On it all the time...........gamer tag is new2nc, if any1z ready for an azz whoopin'!!!! :D

mastahkaz
02-05-07, 02:37 PM
Has anyone noticed when playing certain peeps online, they have cheats?? Like being able to "float" across the screen and also get on top of walls?? When searching for cheats, they're aren't any so wonder how these peeps found em??
I love it otherwise though. On it all the time...........gamer tag is new2nc, if any1z ready for an azz whoopin'!!!! :D
They may not be "cheating", could just be the victim of a glitch. Last night I was playing and floated up into the air and ended up on top of a wall. The only thing is I couldn't move and the other team just came over and killed me. I've also fallen through levels and ended up in very odd places all on accident.

Hyabusha
02-05-07, 03:12 PM
Fix the sliding trick!!!

FreeBaGeL
02-08-07, 07:25 PM
Ok I figured I would post this here rather than bogging down the GoW discussion thread. Hopefully this thread still gets some hits.

Basically I'm still having some bigtime connection issues, particularly with hosting and the "your NAT settings are too strict to host" message.

I have the 360 set as my DMZ, which means there should be no firewall at all and I still get the message and cannot host. I tried taking it off the DMZ and forwarding ports 88, 2074, and 3074 and still no go. Then, I tried making it the dmz AND forwarding the ports also and it worked (which makes no sense at all) for a day. Then magically, the next day it went back to not working. What gives?

steve68
02-08-07, 07:46 PM
I'm playing through for the 3rd time (did casual and hardcore already) on insane now. Just finished the pumping station. I didn't notice it so much the first 2 times through but it seems the guys carrying the torque bows are able to hold their torque bow "cocked" before it explodes much longer than I am. Anyone else notice this?

Also any opinions on the best 2 weapons to have for RAAM? I've beaten him on casual with the sniper and machine gun and on hardcore with the torque bow and machine gun. I'm thinking that the torque bow and shotgun might be the best though even though I'm not there yet.

FreeBaGeL
02-08-07, 07:49 PM
I'm playing through for the 3rd time (did casual and hardcore already) on insane now. Just finished the pumping station. I didn't notice it so much the first 2 times through but it seems the guys carrying the torque bows are able to hold their torque bow "cocked" before it explodes much longer than I am. Anyone else notice this?

Also any opinions on the best 2 weapons to have for RAAM? I've beaten him on casual with the sniper and machine gun and on hardcore with the torque bow and machine gun. I'm thinking that the torque bow and shotgun might be the best though even though I'm not there yet.

Haven't gotten to RAAM on Insane yet (I'm in around the same spot as you), but I've got to imagine it would be the Torque and the Sniper. Both take down Boomers much faster than other weapons (RAAM moves slowly so it's easy to get PR headshots with the Sniper on him). I can't imagine the shotgun would be of much use...don't think you'd last long up close to him.

steve68
02-09-07, 09:52 AM
The last time I killed RAAM on Hardcore I used a LOT of blind firing with the machine gun as he stood just on the other side of one of the little walls. Using perfect reloads helped.

Do the krill flying around his head prevent damage? Do I have to knock them off before getting a head shot with the sniper rifle?

BoomerBrian
02-09-07, 10:50 AM
The last time I killed RAAM on Hardcore I used a LOT of blind firing with the machine gun as he stood just on the other side of one of the little walls. Using perfect reloads helped.

Do the krill flying around his head prevent damage? Do I have to knock them off before getting a head shot with the sniper rifle?

If you throw a frag at him the Kryll will fly away.

Cowdisease
02-09-07, 11:01 AM
The last time I killed RAAM on Hardcore I used a LOT of blind firing with the machine gun as he stood just on the other side of one of the little walls. Using perfect reloads helped.

Do the krill flying around his head prevent damage? Do I have to knock them off before getting a head shot with the sniper rifle?Yes. RAAM is invulnerable when krill are flying around him, so you'll either have to throw a grenade or continuously shoot him to disperse the krill (sometimes he'll order the krill to attack you if you don't do anything). Once they fly away, RAAM is vulnerable.

rhodesj
02-12-07, 12:00 PM
The torque bow will disperse the krill, too. Torque and Sniper is the combo that I used on RAAM.

Phazeshift78
02-12-07, 01:05 PM
I like the inherent randomness in the shotgun. It makes the game play more exciting, like playing a good game of poker. I do admit, it sucks to be on the losing end of a shotgun battle, but from my experience, it evens out, wins vs loses. Unlike Halo 2, where the people who are freak'n insane with the battle rifle, chances to win in those situations are way lower.

gohd
02-13-07, 03:44 PM
I'm a bonehead. Didn't know about active reload until about 90% finished and didn't use the sniper until RAAM. After a little break, gonna play hardcore w/ a little better game plan.

KRaK
02-13-07, 04:09 PM
The last time I killed RAAM on Hardcore I used a LOT of blind firing with the machine gun as he stood just on the other side of one of the little walls. Using perfect reloads helped.

I had the exact same thing happen to me. RAAM just kept walking right into the other side of the little wall like an idiot while I continuously blind fired my machine gun into him

YourBetterHalf
02-13-07, 08:26 PM
He wouldn't stop shooting Doms downed body during Insane, so I took him out with a bunch of blind torch bows and grenades.

I don't know if GoW is the reason, but twice today my internet shut out while I was playing GoW online. I use a linksys router that supports live. The only other game this has ever happened in was CoD3. I attempted to set up port forwarding, but the tech support guy I called lived in India and frankly I couldn't understand him and it didn't work. So to resolve CoD3 i simply skip the router and plug right into the modem, simple enough solution. I've been playing GoW online for well over a month and this has never happened with gears before today. And after my internet shuts down (this also shuts down my phone because I have digital cable provided by Brighthouse Networks) I have to go through a process of unplugging my router and modem to reboot them. I think I should only have to reboot one of them, it's just that I'm usually very anxious to get back onto live that I want to get it over with and don't bother experimenting. Help anyone?

Majestic12
02-19-07, 11:12 PM
Just beat RAAM on insane....woot!

I don't know if he bugged or whatever, but he stopped moving at 1 point....so I unloaded 8 torque + sniper combos and 4 grenades.

Overall impression:

There still needs to be a medium difficulty between casual and hardcore.

Insane other than RAAM is fairly well balanced. Could be harder, in fact. I blew threw level 4, had a bit of trouble at the house, but still only took 3 or 4 attempts.

The pumping station was also very easy once I read about the tip of going right with Cole and Baird. The train Reaver section is also very simple with the Torque Bow.



Anyway, I just ordered 12 months of xbox live, hope to see you guys on!

WilliamR
02-20-07, 08:35 AM
Beat the game on co-op with my brother. One of the few games, for me, that the co-op was more fun then the single player. Like 10 times better. Very enjoyable, I think we are going to play it through again.

dankfoot
02-22-07, 09:25 AM
Hey guys,

Last night I deployed the resignater (sp) and then found out it did not work.

Where am I at in the game now? meaning how much longer before I finish the game? 1/2 way, 1/4 way?

Shape
02-22-07, 09:29 AM
You are about half way through the game, maybe a bit more.

dankfoot
02-22-07, 09:47 AM
OK Thanks,

This is the fisrt game I have ever player on the Xbox 360. I have always had playStation in the past.

This game rocks.

BoomerBrian
02-22-07, 09:53 AM
OK Thanks,

This is the fisrt game I have ever player on the Xbox 360. I have always had playStation in the past.

This game rocks.

Online GOW play is worse than heroine.

dankfoot
02-22-07, 10:02 AM
I can’t imagine playing online.

It would be a divorce in the making. I get in trouble enough kicking her off the big TV. :cool:

maximuslcd
02-22-07, 01:37 PM
I can’t imagine playing online.

It would be a divorce in the making. I get in trouble enough kicking her off the big TV. :cool:

My problem is thats all I want to play is online, I have some good (oblivion) offlines games and I just cant find the time to play them, for me online is where its at. I just have to wait until my wife goes to bed..lol..

Nothing like playing on a 1080p 52" lcd. Makes GOW look great

GT: maximus1969

dropzone7
02-22-07, 03:50 PM
I finally finished the game on Insane. General RAAM is just a bastard on Insane! Actually I had more trouble with the Reaver train scene that with RAAM but both took me dozens of times to finish. RAAM finally went down after I got lucky and pulled off about 9 perfect reloads with the sniper rifle and hit him with the torque bow a few times. I think that playing through the game on Insane has made me a better online player as well. I also switched the controller sensitivity to high and that has much improved my running and maneuvering skills. I still get pwned on a regular basis online but I'm getting better. I like teams that talk to each other and move as a group, search and destroy. This way everyone has a better chance at survival and at being revived if taken down. The other night I just played medic and had like 8 revives. As long as the team wins and we are having fun I could care less what the score is. I'm an adult gamer and I just play for fun. Gamer tag is ARCANGEL FORTES.

dankfoot
02-23-07, 07:42 AM
One more question.

Last night I played split screen for the first time.

The screen was split top and bottom. How do you split it side by side?

What does everyone prefer up/down or side by side?

treek22
02-23-07, 08:05 AM
One more question.

Last night I played split screen for the first time.

The screen was split top and bottom. How do you split it side by side?

What does everyone prefer up/down or side by side?


I don't think you can split it side-by-side.

dropzone7
02-23-07, 10:58 AM
I don't think you can split it side-by-side.

Yeah, I really wish you could do side by side split. I played the top/bottom split one time and it really screwed around with my head! I just could not tune out the other player's screen no matter how hard I tried. This is much easier for me in a side by side setup.

dropzone7
02-23-07, 11:00 AM
My problem is thats all I want to play is online, I have some good (oblivion) offlines games and I just cant find the time to play them, for me online is where its at. I just have to wait until my wife goes to bed..lol..

Nothing like playing on a 1080p 52" lcd. Makes GOW look great

GT: maximus1969

Maximus, have you noticed any lag while playing GOW on your LCD? I'm in the market for a new TV and can't decide between LCD and plasma. I have read good and bad about both and the response time for LCD seems to be an issue for some people. What set are you using?

treek22
02-23-07, 02:20 PM
Yeah, I really wish you could do side by side split. I played the top/bottom split one time and it really screwed around with my head! I just could not tune out the other player's screen no matter how hard I tried. This is much easier for me in a side by side setup.

I agree, played co-op via split and it gives me a headache, much prefer co-op over XBL for the whole screen effect.

Guess the only way to do "side by side" is being in a room with two 360s, two monitors (side by side) and doing co-op via XBL through a router..... :D

sb1
02-27-07, 12:56 PM
Maximus, have you noticed any lag while playing GOW on your LCD? I'm in the market for a new TV and can't decide between LCD and plasma. I have read good and bad about both and the response time for LCD seems to be an issue for some people. What set are you using?
Have you considered a front projector? The blood splatter from a chainsaw on a 110" screen is really satisfying :D .

GT: BourbonNcigars

dropzone7
02-27-07, 01:22 PM
Have you considered a front projector? The blood splatter from a chainsaw on a 110" screen is really satisfying :D .

GT: BourbonNcigars


Yeah, I had one shortly before my separation and divorce. We had to sell the house so I liquidated everything audio and video at the time. I loved XBOX on a big screen and I will probably go that route again soon. I'm actually moving into a new house this week but I have a CRT projector I really want to try out if I get the time. I will probably pick up a plasma for the den until then. I know response times are better on those than on LCD. I'm not concerned with burn in or IR as I don't play that much and I'm very careful with my stuff.

mikebegin
02-27-07, 01:32 PM
Have you considered a front projector? The blood splatter from a chainsaw on a 110" screen is really satisfying :D .

GT: BourbonNcigars


I will second that! I am playing Gears on a 106" screen and cannot get enough!

Morkeleb
02-27-07, 08:04 PM
Yeah, I really wish you could do side by side split. I played the top/bottom split one time and it really screwed around with my head! I just could not tune out the other player's screen no matter how hard I tried. This is much easier for me in a side by side setup.

I also wish there was an option to change the split to vertical for the same reason. I tried coop splitscreen and felt like I was playing with invert off. I kept getting disoriented.

sb1
03-01-07, 05:53 PM
I also wish there was an option to change the split to vertical for the same reason. I tried coop splitscreen and felt like I was playing with invert off. I kept getting disoriented.
It's almost like there's too much detail and too much going on to concentrate. Especially if you're a half-witted dummy like me. I'm not sure that a side by side format would really help. Maybe so.

GT: BourbonNcigars

BoomerBrian
03-01-07, 09:56 PM
It's almost like there's too much detail and too much going on to concentrate. Especially if you're a half-witted dummy like me. I'm not sure that a side by side format would really help. Maybe so.

GT: BourbonNcigars

Split screen is brutal. I have a 94" screen and I still can't hardly play split. Too much activity going on. It makes me sick after a while.

sb1
03-02-07, 07:53 AM
Split screen is brutal. I have a 94" screen and I still can't hardly play split. Too much activity going on. It makes me sick after a while.
I'm using a projector as well, and actually find it gets worse the bigger the picture gets.


BourbonNcigars

glowkiss
03-02-07, 08:19 AM
Split screen is brutal. I have a 94" screen and I still can't hardly play split. Too much activity going on. It makes me sick after a while.

Totally agree. I play on a 110" screen with a 720p projector and it's brutal going from full screen to split screen. But it makes for a nice excuse when I'm getting owned. :)

treek22
03-02-07, 09:00 AM
Totally agree. I play on a 110" screen with a 720p projector and it's brutal going from full screen to split screen. But it makes for a nice excuse when I'm getting owned. :)

Man getting screen envy here :eek: ......alas only a 50" plasma here.. :o

sb1
03-02-07, 10:17 AM
Man getting screen envy here :eek: ......alas only a 50" plasma here.. :o
Don't feel bad treek. They have special places for those of you that aren't as big as others. :D

steve68
03-02-07, 03:13 PM
If you are playing this game on anything less than 100" you are missing out. I love my projector! It makes those head shots that much less tricky. If I ever build another house it's going to have a purpose built theater room so I can have a really big screen instead of a narrow reworked game room. I was just able to squeeze 102" onto my wall and in all honesty it's probably too big for that wall.

FootballDen
03-02-07, 06:41 PM
Ill be on as soon as my kids go to sleep. gamertag

shaka94

Nickff
03-03-07, 12:45 PM
I need help with multiplayer online.

I have seen people and their guests playing online, but whenever I have someone over and we try to sign in and play it says both of us need an XBL account.

How do I sign in a guest and play online?

BoomerBrian
03-03-07, 06:33 PM
I need help with multiplayer online.

I have seen people and their guests playing online, but whenever I have someone over and we try to sign in and play it says both of us need an XBL account.

How do I sign in a guest and play online?

After you put the Gears cd in go into the menus like you were going to play online. At the bottom you should see press "Y" for guest login. Use the second controller and press Y. You should then the guest account. Click on it and you should be good to go.

boykster
03-05-07, 07:11 PM
Online GOW play is worse than heroine.

True dat....

I work from home, and it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to ignore the 360 and GoW beckoning me down to the theater for a few matches....

There's no such thing as playing GoW online for "just a few minutes"

;)

FlipMasterFlash
03-06-07, 10:52 AM
Have you considered a front projector? The blood splatter from a chainsaw on a 110" screen is really satisfying :D .


I miss playing on my projector but seeing as my theater is near the bedroom the late night gaming was keeping my wife up. With the choice being no late night Gears on the projector or doing a setup in the basement, I went ahead and got a 42" LCD and moved my gaming to the basement. If I sit really close it is almost like playing on the projector. :rolleyes:

sb1
03-06-07, 11:02 AM
I miss playing on my projector but seeing as my theater is near the bedroom the late night gaming was keeping my wife up. With the choice being no late night Gears on the projector or doing a setup in the basement, I went ahead and got a 42" LCD and moved my gaming to the basement. If I sit really close it is almost like playing on the projector. :rolleyes:
FLIP! What are doin' over here!? I almost couldn't believe my eyes...... :D

FlipMasterFlash
03-06-07, 11:44 AM
I read the forums a ton back when I picked up my projector ~3 years ago and frequent them when looking for other AV answers, never needed a reason to post as I've always been able to find what I was looking for. Figured I'd stop in the Xbox forum here to check out where all the quality GoW players are coming from. ;)

treek22
03-06-07, 12:12 PM
FLIP! What are doin' over here!? I almost couldn't believe my eyes...... :D

Same thing I said!!!! :p

treek22
03-09-07, 09:20 AM
Still playing Gears online Multiplayer (MP)? Or has the XBL experience turned you off because of foul mouthed 12 year olds? Have you even tried MP?

If you haven't tried Gears MP, a bunch of regular Gears players are trying to establish a weekly Wed. gaming night for AVS members only. All experience levels are welcome,(newbs preferred ;) ) .. it's strictly for fun and will give you the opportunity to experience how Gears MP should be.

We try to have balanced teams and will mix it up so that one team isn't getting pwned all night.

So come Gear with some fellow AVSers, while I can't guarantee there won't be any foul mouth language, there will definitely be some laughs and good times.

Click on the thread below for more info:
GEARS of WAR Multiplayer WED nights @9-9:30pm EST
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=816908

and this thread to "sign up"
GOW multiplayer thread: scheduling and organization
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=790590

Thanks!

"Let's do this!!!"

FrostyMelon
03-09-07, 12:59 PM
I think I have a head injury

Shizelbs
03-28-07, 04:47 PM
I was reading an article in Official Xbox Magazine about what they claim 'needs' to be in GoW2. They were making all sorts of requests. They wanted more weapons, with more power, vehicles in multiplayer, multiplayer supporting 16 players per match, bigger maps, an alien version of the chainsaw (basically they want it to be another Halo from what I gathered). Anyways, it got me thinking. Am I the only one who both truly appreciates how spectactular the game was, and amazed at HOW WELL BALANCED the multiplayer part of it is. If you really study how the game plays and how much strategy as well as execution is required, then you understand how well balanced everything is. In GoW online, there is an answer to everything. No person can ever blame the situation on not succeeding. In other multiplayer games, say if someone has super gun A and you have pea shooter B, you are going to get destroyed. In GoW, the odds may be against you at times, but you are never without hope. I've been pinned in a deadend, 4 on 1, and won by making 4 headshots with my shotgun (greatest single moment of my life). This game is as close to perfectly balanced as any game I have ever played.

Point being, the next GoW needs to be a lot more of the same. Its perfect. We don't need another dime a dozen, futuristic, save the planet, humans vs. aliens shooter.

BoomerBrian
03-28-07, 04:51 PM
I was reading an article in Official Xbox Magazine about what they claim 'needs' to be in GoW2. They were making all sorts of requests. They wanted more weapons, with more power, vehicles in multiplayer, multiplayer supporting 16 players per match, bigger maps, an alien version of the chainsaw (basically they want it to be another Halo from what I gathered). Anyways, it got me thinking. Am I the only one who both truly appreciates how spectactular the game was, and amazed at HOW WELL BALANCED the multiplayer part of it is. If you really study how the game plays and how much strategy as well as execution is required, then you understand how well balanced everything is. In GoW online, there is an answer to everything. No person can ever blame the situation on not succeeding. In other multiplayer games, say if someone has super gun A and you have pea shooter B, you are going to get destroyed. In GoW, the odds may be against you at times, but you are never without hope. I've been pinned in a deadend, 4 on 1, and won by making 4 headshots with my shotgun (greatest single moment of my life). This game is as close to perfectly balanced as any game I have ever played.

Point being, the next GoW needs to be a lot more of the same. Its perfect. We don't need another dime a dozen, futuristic, save the planet, humans vs. aliens shooter.

Good points. I agree totally. I only played Halo 2 a little bit but it seemed very unbalanced as far as weapons. That sword thingy was way too powerful.

FreeBaGeL
03-28-07, 11:32 PM
I was reading an article in Official Xbox Magazine about what they claim 'needs' to be in GoW2. They were making all sorts of requests. They wanted more weapons, with more power, vehicles in multiplayer, multiplayer supporting 16 players per match, bigger maps, an alien version of the chainsaw (basically they want it to be another Halo from what I gathered). Anyways, it got me thinking. Am I the only one who both truly appreciates how spectactular the game was, and amazed at HOW WELL BALANCED the multiplayer part of it is. If you really study how the game plays and how much strategy as well as execution is required, then you understand how well balanced everything is. In GoW online, there is an answer to everything. No person can ever blame the situation on not succeeding. In other multiplayer games, say if someone has super gun A and you have pea shooter B, you are going to get destroyed. In GoW, the odds may be against you at times, but you are never without hope. I've been pinned in a deadend, 4 on 1, and won by making 4 headshots with my shotgun (greatest single moment of my life). This game is as close to perfectly balanced as any game I have ever played.

Point being, the next GoW needs to be a lot more of the same. Its perfect. We don't need another dime a dozen, futuristic, save the planet, humans vs. aliens shooter.

Preach on man, I'm right there with ya.

sb1
03-29-07, 08:26 PM
Preach on man, I'm right there with ya.
Vcize, of course you want more of the same........you're too FREAKIN' good as it is now! :p

BourbonNcigars

steve68
03-29-07, 09:34 PM
So what video setting is everyone using? I've completed the game on all 3 difficulty settings and I just now started playing with the video settings. I played all 3 campaigns on the default setting and now I'm replaying on vibrant.

Shape
03-29-07, 09:35 PM
I like vibrant, myself.

Shape
03-30-07, 07:23 PM
Looks like another Gears of War patch is in certification, and it includes a new game type called "Annex!"

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/03/30/upcoming-gears-update-fixes-glitches-and-adds-gametype/

What do you know, glitch fixes, too! :D

dropzone7
04-02-07, 01:40 PM
Looks like another Gears of War patch is in certification, and it includes a new game type called "Annex!"

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/03/30/upcoming-gears-update-fixes-glitches-and-adds-gametype/

What do you know, glitch fixes, too! :D

Thank God! I get so tired of playing this game with people who can only win by glitching. What's the point really? I personally could derive no satisfaction in winning if I had to cheat to do it. I am really not that good at this game but I have my moments and when I do it's because I either got really lucky or all of those hours of playing finally paid off during one round. It's just fun for me whether I win or lose and I lose more than I win but that does not stop me from playing. Glitch fixes are good news and a new game type would be cool as well but I would prefer more nasty weapons. Like a flamethrower chainsaw or proximity mines! :D

Quatre
04-04-07, 02:04 PM
I was reading an article in Official Xbox Magazine about what they claim 'needs' to be in GoW2. They were making all sorts of requests. They wanted more weapons, with more power, vehicles in multiplayer, multiplayer supporting 16 players per match, bigger maps, an alien version of the chainsaw (basically they want it to be another Halo from what I gathered). Anyways, it got me thinking. Am I the only one who both truly appreciates how spectactular the game was, and amazed at HOW WELL BALANCED the multiplayer part of it is. If you really study how the game plays and how much strategy as well as execution is required, then you understand how well balanced everything is. In GoW online, there is an answer to everything. No person can ever blame the situation on not succeeding. In other multiplayer games, say if someone has super gun A and you have pea shooter B, you are going to get destroyed. In GoW, the odds may be against you at times, but you are never without hope. I've been pinned in a deadend, 4 on 1, and won by making 4 headshots with my shotgun (greatest single moment of my life). This game is as close to perfectly balanced as any game I have ever played.

Point being, the next GoW needs to be a lot more of the same. Its perfect. We don't need another dime a dozen, futuristic, save the planet, humans vs. aliens shooter.


greatest single moment of your life... hehehe. thats funny made me lol. i know what you mean. i've had some good moments in an online multiplayher games that are fun like that.

sadly i havent' played gears in so long as i've been busy with other games like crackdown previouslly though mostly done with that now and lost planet plus all 3 newest clancy games (splinter cell DA, rainbow 6 vegas ) and now a ton of graw 2.

i think i just wasn't into achievements with gears but then i got into getting them with other gmesa as it gives you motivation to go for certain things. and in games with well implemented achievements it has you playing modes you might not otherwise hae tired and turn out to be super fun.

anyway i've gotten all but one multiplayer achievements in graw2 which is the newest of all the games i have so now i'll be going backto old games like gears to get achievments.

theres noting like seeing the Achievement unlocked icon pop up on the screen, hehe

so what is Annex?

i agree what you mean about Gears being balanced etc. but it just gets old, same few weapons same maps (though i give them great praise for adding 2 new maps without charing where as games like lost planets charged for 2 new maps)

i heard for crackdown there is going to be update of adding flying vehicles (planes) which is pretty big and if you look at something like OBLIVIon Shivering isles expansion pack is like a whole new game

gears needs some addons/expansion pack etc. problem is the 20gb hdd is too small to hold all that. Shivering isles is pretty big and if you have lots of other stuff like live arcade games, demos, vid clips etc. t h 20gb is filled quick

sad thing is thyey are going to charge $180 for the 120gb hdd for 360. good news is 360 is fully hacked now and can play burned games. supposedly in a few months they will be able to hack the 120gb so that you can use a 120gb notebook drive instead which will be cheaper. i dunno.

anyway before gears 2, i'd like to see some new modes and content (namely more maps and weapons and playable c haracters etc) to give more variety and options in gears and bring ppl like myself back to play it.

mcclayton
04-04-07, 02:29 PM
I have a question (it'll be hard to answer). Did Epic ever say how much power (a %) Gears of War uses? As a PS3 owner I'm curious.

steve68
04-05-07, 01:50 PM
Can you grenade tag the bad guys in single player mode? If so how do you "tag" someone? I don't have a gold membership so I have never played online to find out. I thought I remember watching a video on youtube where some guys were tagging RAAM.

Thanks,
Steve

mastahkaz
04-05-07, 02:19 PM
Can you grenade tag the bad guys in single player mode? If so how do you "tag" someone? I don't have a gold membership so I have never played online to find out. I thought I remember watching a video on youtube where some guys were tagging RAAM.

Thanks,
Steve
Yes - melee with grenade in hand.

steve68
04-05-07, 11:04 PM
How come when I try to use the chainsaw on the locusts the always knock it away? I have never successfully chainsawed one ever. And I've beaten the game on all 3 difficulty settings. Even killed RAAM on insane twice by myself.

Also melee with the shotgun doesn't seem to do much either.

dropzone7
04-05-07, 11:29 PM
How come when I try to use the chainsaw on the locusts the always knock it away? I have never successfully chainsawed one ever. And I've beaten the game on all 3 difficulty settings. Even killed RAAM on insane twice by myself.

Also melee with the shotgun doesn't seem to do much either.

If you are running at them head on then they are more than likely going to get a shot off first which lowers your saw and you have to rev it up again. Or they may be knocking it away as you say. Either way, just hold the button down and move around them in a circle and it should work. The chainsaw is almost "magnetic" and it's hard not make it work once you get a clean shot at it. Really the best way is to flank them where they don't even notice you and then you saw them in the back. I do this with the Locust's manning the Troikas all the time. Man, the saw is have the fun of the game! I hope you get it working.

DemonLos
04-06-07, 09:41 PM
Alright, everyone knows how prevalent the shotgun is in vs. It seems 90% of most battles end in a close quarters shotty battle. Unfortunately I am horrible at it! What is the deal? I have tryed blindfiring and aiming but I usually end getting popped by some 13 year old and am really getting tired of it. Can some of you experts lend some advice on the best way to aim this thing? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

BoomerBrian
04-07-07, 02:23 AM
Alright, everyone knows how prevalent the shotgun is in vs. It seems 90% of most battles end in a close quarters shotty battle. Unfortunately I am horrible at it! What is the deal? I have tryed blindfiring and aiming but I usually end getting popped by some 13 year old and am really getting tired of it. Can some of you experts lend some advice on the best way to aim this thing? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Get a perfect reload and shoot from the hip. Don't use the left trigger to aim.

FreeBaGeL
04-07-07, 12:38 PM
Alright, everyone knows how prevalent the shotgun is in vs. It seems 90% of most battles end in a close quarters shotty battle. Unfortunately I am horrible at it! What is the deal? I have tryed blindfiring and aiming but I usually end getting popped by some 13 year old and am really getting tired of it. Can some of you experts lend some advice on the best way to aim this thing? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Most use the diagonal strafe technique and as soon as someone told me about it, it improved my shotgun game by 300% (not that I ever use the shotgun anymore...).

Basically the gist of it is you shouldn't be strafing side to side. You'll die every time if you are. You want to be moving towards them as you shoot so you're as close as possible, and moving away when they shoot so you're as far as possible because of the way shotgun bullets spread out the longer they're in the air.

So when your shotgun is cocked and ready strafe diagonally right and forward (or left and forward) and shoot, inbetween shots while he re-cocks the gun strafe diagonally one direction and away, then back diagonally forward when shooting your next shot, etc.

sb1
04-07-07, 12:58 PM
(not that I ever use the shotgun anymore...)
What do you use, then? I know it's not the pistol! ;)

BourbonNcigars

dropzone7
04-10-07, 01:36 PM
So what do you guys think of Annex? I played a little last night and it was very fast paced and even more brutal than usual. Chainsaws galore! I noticed one potential negative side effect of the update though. I seem to be sticking to walls more than I used to. In fact, I never had much of a problem with it before but last night I got stuck a good bit. Will just take some getting used to perhaps. I also picked up a great strategy right away for Annex which requires a great deal of restraint. (you will see what I mean.) I'm sure everyone will pick this up quickly.

skogan
04-10-07, 02:01 PM
I love Annex. I can't wait to get home to play it again.

chad473
04-10-07, 02:36 PM
So what do you guys think of Annex? I played a little last night and it was very fast paced and even more brutal than usual. Chainsaws galore! I noticed one potential negative side effect of the update though. I seem to be sticking to walls more than I used to. In fact, I never had much of a problem with it before but last night I got stuck a good bit. Will just take some getting used to perhaps. I also picked up a great strategy right away for Annex which requires a great deal of restraint. (you will see what I mean.) I'm sure everyone will pick this up quickly.

sticking to walls is definitely happening a lot more. the epic forums are up in arms over it. the supposed way to do it now is to point the stick away from cover as you are running past it. The game apparently checks every frame while holding a near cover, and unless you are pointing away from it, you'll get sucked in. I'm going to give it a try tonight but it seems like it's going to make sharp turns a lot harder and places like the tunnels in the mausoleum should be a pain in the ass now. I can't for the life of me figure out why the implemented this.

as far as annex goes, I think it's ok. I was having a lot of issues with lag/jumpiness last night that I thought was due to the host, but i've been reading similar complaints over other forums today. communication is even more key and if you find yourself down a man, you can pretty much forget it.

WideNine
04-11-07, 11:56 AM
What do you use, then? I know it's not the pistol! ;)

BourbonNcigars

If we end up on the same team tonight, think you could mix it up and either do me in with the saw or a grenade tag this time? :) Some artists use oils and canvas to express themselves...you my friend use FF to display your creativity.

Phazeshift78
04-11-07, 12:28 PM
Alright, everyone knows how prevalent the shotgun is in vs. It seems 90% of most battles end in a close quarters shotty battle. Unfortunately I am horrible at it! What is the deal? I have tryed blindfiring and aiming but I usually end getting popped by some 13 year old and am really getting tired of it. Can some of you experts lend some advice on the best way to aim this thing? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Another technique.... LAG SHOOT! In other words, from the estimated amount of lag you have by shooting the shotgun on the ground in the beginning of the game, you have to predict where to shoot the shotgun in the path of your opponent. For example, say opponent is moving left, shoot a little further ahead of him on the left, and if you timed it right, the lag shots should hit him if he still moves to the left. It's hard, it works, it sucks, and it improved my game by 1000%. :p

GIBBS v2
04-25-07, 10:47 AM
I just got a new Samsung 46" 1080p and gears in darker area is absolutely black. I heard the term Black crush. I beleive this is what is happening, what kind of settings shoudl I use to counter this problem. I have my set on Game Mode am I allowed to edit that mode or is it preset I think thats part of the issue.

Thanks

Phazeshift78
04-25-07, 11:41 AM
I just got a new Samsung 46" 1080p and gears in darker area is absolutely black. I heard the term Black crush. I beleive this is what is happening, what kind of settings shoudl I use to counter this problem. I have my set on Game Mode am I allowed to edit that mode or is it preset I think thats part of the issue.

Thanks

Have you tried adjusting your picture settings? I had the same problem, but after I calibrated my TV through my picture settings, the dark areas weren't so dark anymore. Also, the game itself has color adjustments in the options or gameplay menu, try those as well.

Davio
04-29-07, 12:05 PM
Another technique.... LAG SHOOT! In other words, from the estimated amount of lag you have by shooting the shotgun on the ground in the beginning of the game, you have to predict where to shoot the shotgun in the path of your opponent. For example, say opponent is moving left, shoot a little further ahead of him on the left, and if you timed it right, the lag shots should hit him if he still moves to the left. It's hard, it works, it sucks, and it improved my game by 1000%. :p
lol, Im going to have to try this too. The shotgun multiplayer games in Gears get annoying quickly when you dont have a top speed connection.

perpetual
04-30-07, 12:52 PM
Do you guys think they will ever stop the cheating? I was playing last night in several rooms and in almost every room a guy kill me by chainsawing me with the shotgun. I could run a little bit after the shotgun chain saw but then I blew up. Another guy was shooting and chainsawing at the same time with the lancer. I don't get frustrated or anything but I just can't understand the reason for people doing this. I mean if you are not good at the game try to improve by practicing or something but resorting to cheating is just kind of sad. Just my thoughts on the cheating stuff.

dropzone7
04-30-07, 01:05 PM
Do you guys think they will ever stop the cheating? I was playing last night in several rooms and in almost every room a guy kill me by chainsawing me with the shotgun. I could run a little bit after the shotgun chain saw but then I blew up. Another guy was shooting and chainsawing at the same time with the lancer. I don't get frustrated or anything but I just can't understand the reason for people doing this. I mean if you are not good at the game try to improve by practicing or something but resorting to cheating is just kind of sad. Just my thoughts on the cheating stuff.

I have seen some weird stuff happening in the game but never anyone getting chainsawed by a shotgun. Are you sure they are not just toggling weapons at the last minute? Some people are pretty quick about changing weapons on the fly. Personally I suck with the shotgun and will use the chainsaw any chance I get. I think the last update fixed a lot of problems with the chainsaw "sticking" to easily and the proximity for a grenade tag. I have had people accuse me of "glitching" before and I don't even know how! I just play the game the best I know how. If there was an unfair advantage I was aware of I still would not use it because it's just not the way I play. I consider myself an average player that has his moments but certainly takes his share of beatings in this game. I have a guy on my friends list that is just amazing with the shotgun and he routinely mops up the entire enemy team on his own. He claims as others have said that there is some advantage to being the "host" in this game, especially with the shotgun. Personally, advantage or not you still need to know how to use the thing to be effective and that is one weapon that I have not mastered whether I'm on the host team or not. I find myself getting frustrated at times with people who walk off the map or do stupid things or just are downright rude and disrespectful verbally. I refuse to put up with that and that's why I have a group of friends that I prefer to play with. They don't ride my ass for screwing up in the game and they don't talk trash to the other team even if we are beating their pants off. It's just a game and I try to keep it that way. If I get angry or discouraged I turn the game off and go do something else.

By the way, my gamertag is ARCANGEL FORTES if you want to team up sometime.

perpetual
04-30-07, 11:04 PM
I have seen some weird stuff happening in the game but never anyone getting chainsawed by a shotgun. Are you sure they are not just toggling weapons at the last minute? Some people are pretty quick about changing weapons on the fly. Personally I suck with the shotgun and will use the chainsaw any chance I get. I think the last update fixed a lot of problems with the chainsaw "sticking" to easily and the proximity for a grenade tag. I have had people accuse me of "glitching" before and I don't even know how! I just play the game the best I know how. If there was an unfair advantage I was aware of I still would not use it because it's just not the way I play. I consider myself an average player that has his moments but certainly takes his share of beatings in this game. I have a guy on my friends list that is just amazing with the shotgun and he routinely mops up the entire enemy team on his own. He claims as others have said that there is some advantage to being the "host" in this game, especially with the shotgun. Personally, advantage or not you still need to know how to use the thing to be effective and that is one weapon that I have not mastered whether I'm on the host team or not. I find myself getting frustrated at times with people who walk off the map or do stupid things or just are downright rude and disrespectful verbally. I refuse to put up with that and that's why I have a group of friends that I prefer to play with. They don't ride my ass for screwing up in the game and they don't talk trash to the other team even if we are beating their pants off. It's just a game and I try to keep it that way. If I get angry or discouraged I turn the game off and go do something else.

By the way, my gamertag is ARCANGEL FORTES if you want to team up sometime.


Well I'm 100% sure that the shotgun chainsaw is a cheat and not some glitch in the game while switching weapons. In one room two guys were in oppossite teams and they were using the cheat on each other. The chainsaw doesn't sound while they are doing it to you and once they chainsaw you, you can still move around for a couple of seconds and then you blow up. Once I was also in a room where one of the teams had five people. The shotgun is my favorite weapon so i'm pretty decent with it. It's a fact that there's an advantage to being the host of a game, but thats just how networks work. I doubt they can do anything about it.

dropzone7
05-01-07, 06:48 AM
Well I'm 100% sure that the shotgun chainsaw is a cheat and not some glitch in the game while switching weapons. In one room two guys were in oppossite teams and they were using the cheat on each other. The chainsaw doesn't sound while they are doing it to you and once they chainsaw you, you can still move around for a couple of seconds and then you blow up. Once I was also in a room where one of the teams had five people. The shotgun is my favorite weapon so i'm pretty decent with it. It's a fact that there's an advantage to being the host of a game, but thats just how networks work. I doubt they can do anything about it.

I saw the shotgun chainsaw last night. That sucks! As if the game was not hard enough on it's own. Hopefully GOW2 will clean up some of these things.

Phazeshift78
05-01-07, 03:54 PM
The shotgun chainsaw is a glitch. Search for it on 'Youtube'. There should be a video that shows how to do the shotgun chainsaw glitch.

Host will always have the advantage.

For comparison, host a game, shoot the wall (preferably the shotgun) and time how much it takes for the bullets to hit the wall (use one shot). You will notice instant hit response from gun to wall. Then, join a someone else's game, and do the same thing, you will notice a delay of the bullets from your gun to hitting the wall, this is the effect of game lag. Different games you join, depending on the host connection speed, location of the host, and the connections of the other players to the host will determine amount of game lag.

If you can estimate the amount lag you have in the game (through the gun test on the wall or ground), you can use it to your advantage against non-host players. You gain the advantage by lead aiming to compensate for the lag. Like I said above, aim a little head of the opponents path and if timed right, you will get the hits. If you can, avoid one on one battles against the host until you get comfortable with lag shooting.

Hit me up on live if you like and I can demonstrate for ya. Just let me know you're from AVS.

rocketknight73
05-06-07, 07:23 AM
Another technique.... LAG SHOOT! In other words, from the estimated amount of lag you have by shooting the shotgun on the ground in the beginning of the game, you have to predict where to shoot the shotgun in the path of your opponent. For example, say opponent is moving left, shoot a little further ahead of him on the left, and if you timed it right, the lag shots should hit him if he still moves to the left. It's hard, it works, it sucks, and it improved my game by 1000%. :p
Thats old school from my Half-Life and counterstrike days. Especially sniping. I used to rock everyone while having to compensate the damn lag. At the time I could only get 33 k on my modem :( :p

Phazeshift78
05-07-07, 12:11 PM
Thats old school from my Half-Life and counterstrike days. Especially sniping. I used to rock everyone while having to compensate the damn lag. At the time I could only get 33 k on my modem :( :p

I learned my lag shooting from Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries. But that was with my 28.8 modem and my low end Compaq Presario in the year of 1997..... :D

tronn
05-08-07, 02:46 PM
so....

what the f is happening with the Gears multi-player servers? i heard a couple of servers are down. i also heard these servers are affecting other Live games. does this have to do with Spring update?

Shape
05-08-07, 02:49 PM
What Gears multi-player servers?

Cyborg6971
05-08-07, 05:54 PM
I was trying to hook up 3 360's for a lan match however i could not host or join the match that was set up. the other two hooked up and when we tried halo 2 it was fine. I went into the network settings and everything was the same except the ip but that wouldn't can you hook up 3 360's for a lan match with gears or what am I doing wrong I play online with it and it's fine the other 2 360's didn't have any downloaded maps so I deleted mine anyone have a idea what's up?

Axiom Divine
05-14-07, 07:01 PM
Did a quick search of the thread and didn't find anything...I have an audio issue for awhile now.
Whenever I press the "back" button on the controller during a match to see the stats, the sound effect causes an ugly sounding crackle. I've adjusted the sound from the game options and found that it has to be turned nearly off in order for it to not do this. I also wanted to say that I don't think it's my speakers, because even when the TV is extremely low, it will do this, and only when that particular whooshing sound effect happens.

I also noticed a pretty drastic drop in my framerate while playing Annex split-screen.

Anyone have any of these problems?

BoomerBrian
05-14-07, 07:05 PM
Did a quick search of the thread and didn't find anything...I have an audio issue for awhile now.
Whenever I press the "back" button on the controller during a match to see the stats, the sound effect causes an ugly sounding crackle. I've adjusted the sound from the game options and found that it has to be turned nearly off in order for it to not do this. I also wanted to say that I don't think it's my speakers, because even when the TV is extremely low, it will do this, and only when that particular whooshing sound effect happens.

I also noticed a pretty drastic drop in my framerate while playing Annex split-screen.

Anyone have any of these problems?

There is a known issue with Annex. Epic is working on it and will release a patch soon.

Irunnoft
05-15-07, 06:03 PM
I was trying to hook up 3 360's for a lan match however i could not host or join the match that was set up. the other two hooked up and when we tried halo 2 it was fine. I went into the network settings and everything was the same except the ip but that wouldn't can you hook up 3 360's for a lan match with gears or what am I doing wrong I play online with it and it's fine the other 2 360's didn't have any downloaded maps so I deleted mine anyone have a idea what's up?


Run a test on your XBL from the system's blade in your menu. Check the last setting on this test. It should read NAT status Open. If your NAT is set to Moderate or Strict, that's most likely the problem. If you can create a static IP address for your Xbox and then enter it into the router in the DMZ, that should help free things up for you. Also check to be sure you have UpNp enabled in your router config.

I had the same problems last week, but I got my NAT open and I've not had any issues at all now.

Phazeshift78
05-16-07, 11:06 AM
Run a test on your XBL from the system's blade in your menu. Check the last setting on this test. It should read NAT status Open. If your NAT is set to Moderate or Strict, that's most likely the problem. If you can create a static IP address for your Xbox and then enter it into the router in the DMZ, that should help free things up for you. Also check to be sure you have UpNp enabled in your router config.

I had the same problems last week, but I got my NAT open and I've not had any issues at all now.

His friends don't have the patch updates for GoW, which is why he's having trouble joining their games. They're on a LAN, so I'm not sure how the NAT should affect his connection because their not using the WAN.

biketuna
05-16-07, 09:24 PM
wow

haloguy
05-19-07, 02:21 PM
The lag is bad, but like others said, you have to compenstae. The host has a beastly lancer. Everyone says host shotty is good, wait until you use host lancer. Every shot hits, and if you get active reload they all go down so fast. Host will always have advantage in gow.

I am beastly with the shotty though, so it doesnt mater if there is lag or not (ok yes it does the lag pisses me off a lot sometimes)

Arpeggi
05-19-07, 04:48 PM
I'm the king of the Subway map. Just wanted to let you guys know.

dropzone7
05-21-07, 07:37 AM
I'm the king of the Subway map. Just wanted to let you guys know.

Care to share some secrets? It seems to me that most everything happens at the snipers corner because the other team knows that at least one guy is always going to be there. That's a bloody corner back there with the van and also the opposite corner where the steps are is also a bottleneck for encounters.

FreeBaGeL
05-21-07, 06:53 PM
Care to share some secrets? It seems to me that most everything happens at the snipers corner because the other team knows that at least one guy is always going to be there. That's a bloody corner back there with the van and also the opposite corner where the steps are is also a bottleneck for encounters.

There's a boomshot and a torquebow within 20 feet of each other. I'll never understand why anyone goes anywhere else on that map.

TheWinstonWolf
05-22-07, 02:22 PM
There's a boomshot and a torquebow within 20 feet of each other. I'll never understand why anyone goes anywhere else on that map.

Yeah every time I've played that map, if a team acquired both of those items they won 90% of the time. The sniper area is effective, but can be neutralized if the other team gets the two power weapons.

mastahkaz
05-22-07, 03:44 PM
I played some BTB's last night, they would either lag way too much or just go to that "uploading" screen forever until it finally boots everyone out. And that was only with 12 players. :(

poolshark920
05-23-07, 01:02 AM
What's up gents... joining the party late. Just got a 360 over a week ago w/ Gears and signed up on Live a few days ago. Online's fun, but I've been playing with trash-talking gaming pros since I got started up. What time do you guys usually play and how does it work? Do one of you host a private match and just invite others in?

Gamertag: poolshark921


Mel

hiwind
05-23-07, 01:35 AM
anyone else turn off their mic's nowadays? everyone has a huge "E-WANG" in this game and think there all gangsters!

FreeBaGeL
05-23-07, 07:24 AM
What's up gents... joining the party late. Just got a 360 over a week ago w/ Gears and signed up on Live a few days ago. Online's fun, but I've been playing with trash-talking gaming pros since I got started up. What time do you guys usually play and how does it work? Do one of you host a private match and just invite others in?

Gamertag: poolshark921


Mel

I would suggest heading here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=790590&page=1&pp=30

That's the scheduling thread. Wednesday night is the official AVS 'Gears Night' but you'll find a handful of guys from that thread on most other nights as well. In the last few pages (and posted again every so often) is a list of all the AVS guys participated, I would recommend adding most to your list and also introducing yourself in that thread with your gamertag so the people that generally host get you on their lists as well and can send out invites.

The rooms usually fill up pretty quickly so usually when you see the guys on in a game just send a message asking if it's full or whatnot (if it is you might not get a reply back right away) and they'll usually drop you an invite when a slot opens up. Also the hosts have gotten into a pretty good habit of making the games public with private slots (instead of private all the way) so people on their friends list can join without invites.

dropzone7
05-23-07, 07:26 AM
What's up gents... joining the party late. Just got a 360 over a week ago w/ Gears and signed up on Live a few days ago. Online's fun, but I've been playing with trash-talking gaming pros since I got started up. What time do you guys usually play and how does it work? Do one of you host a private match and just invite others in?

Gamertag: poolshark921


Mel

Hit me up for a game online or if you want to play coop in the campaign we can do that as well. I know what you mean about the trash talking and obnoxious people on Xbox Live. You might check out AGE (Adult Gaming Enthusiasts). It's a group of adult gamers that just play for fun and you can be sure that you wont get booted or cussed out for making a mistake. They have a website I believe and you need to sign up to get on the list for scheduled games. I believe their GOW games are on Tuesday nights at 9:00. My gamertag is ARCANGEL FORTES. I have been playing all along but I'm still not that good. I just love playing the game whether I'm getting my ass handed to me or not! See you online.

poolshark920
05-23-07, 10:22 AM
FreeBaGel... thanks for the link to the thread and I'll definitely go ahead and do that

dropzone7... I'm definitely up for it. I work odd hours though (midnight-8) so I may not be online some nights. I'll add your gamertag to my friend's list. Thanks!

Mel

Arpeggi
05-24-07, 12:46 AM
Care to share some secrets? It seems to me that most everything happens at the snipers corner because the other team knows that at least one guy is always going to be there. That's a bloody corner back there with the van and also the opposite corner where the steps are is also a bottleneck for encounters.


I usually get the torquebow guy by going down the main stairs next to the bow and shoot the guy in the face with a regular shotgun. Torquebow guy never sees me.

dropzone7
05-24-07, 06:55 AM
I usually get the torquebow guy by going down the main stairs next to the bow and shoot the guy in the face with a regular shotgun. Torquebow guy never sees me.

Good to know. Only problem is I suck with the shotgun. :o

muffinb34r
05-25-07, 08:38 AM
ah yes the beloved 12 years olds!


anyone else turn off their mic's nowadays? everyone has a huge "E-WANG" in this game and think there all gangsters!

thejumbo
05-30-07, 10:33 AM
Every time I've been on Live, I seem to have the asthmatic fat kid on the other end of the headset who is actually getting short of breath playing the game.

Shape
05-30-07, 10:37 AM
I only play in player matches with friends, people from AVS or from AGE. Haven't met an asthmatic fat kid yet.

sb1
05-30-07, 10:44 AM
Haven't met an asthmatic fat kid yet.
What about any power drinkers? Met any of them yet? :D


BourbonNcigars

Shape
05-30-07, 12:42 PM
What about any power drinkers? Met any of them yet? :D


BourbonNcigars

As I stated before, I ONLY play Gears with power drinkers.

efjay
06-06-07, 11:24 AM
Anyone got any tips for taking down Raam on insane? I am expecting my Elite this weekend (hopefully) and have been thwarted every time I try to take him down. Unfortunately none of my friends with the game dont have the patience to keep trying so I'm on my own on this one. Thanks.

Ezekiel 4:12
06-06-07, 01:53 PM
Here (http://faqs.ign.com/articles/745/745632p1.html) is an in depth walkthrough, and Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGRLtarHfFI) you can watch a guy go through it.

FreeBaGeL
06-06-07, 05:40 PM
Anyone got any tips for taking down Raam on insane? I am expecting my Elite this weekend (hopefully) and have been thwarted every time I try to take him down. Unfortunately none of my friends with the game dont have the patience to keep trying so I'm on my own on this one. Thanks.

Beating Raam on insane is all about the torque. You need to go in there with full torque ammo. It respawns in the room right before Raam so if you have to just wait there for it to keep respawning until you have full ammo and just keep on firing it off at him.

If you do coop and you both get max torque ammo you can take him down in a matter of seconds.

Shizelbs
06-06-07, 06:19 PM
Beating Raam on insane is all about the torque. You need to go in there with full torque ammo. It respawns in the room right before Raam so if you have to just wait there for it to keep respawning until you have full ammo and just keep on firing it off at him.

If you do coop and you both get max torque ammo you can take him down in a matter of seconds.


Clear the bats away and hit Raam for damage with Torque?

deveng
06-17-07, 10:09 PM
Anyone got any tips for taking down Raam on insane? I am expecting my Elite this weekend (hopefully) and have been thwarted every time I try to take him down. Unfortunately none of my friends with the game dont have the patience to keep trying so I'm on my own on this one. Thanks.

Best option is to play coop if possible. With coop he goes down quickly. One player takes either torque or sniper and get active reloads and the other uses the lancer. I have used the sniper and it takes about 12-13 shots along with almost all bullets from lancer to take him down. The key is to keep shooting even if one guy goes down, and if you have an opening then go and save your partner. If you play alone then it will be harder and likely you will use most of your ammo from both weapons.

efjay
06-18-07, 07:17 AM
Thanks for all the tips, guys. I finally beat Raam playing coop with my friend in Cali. We hit a purple patch and he went down!!!

Magjuan
07-17-07, 03:37 PM
Just got a 360 and very very late to the game with Gears on Xbox Live. Fun but I def suck right now. Must be this Lag issue I just read about on here...good pointers...lookin to play with some of you guys for sure and get better.

My gamertag is Magjuan.

SuperGrafx
07-18-07, 12:02 PM
Just got a 360 and very very late to the game with Gears on Xbox Live. Fun but I def suck right now. Must be this Lag issue I just read about on here...good pointers...lookin to play with some of you guys for sure and get better.

My gamertag is Magjuan.

It's a great game...something I still play regularly thanks to the online component.
The host/lag issue is annoying, but you learn to adjust. My biggest gripe right now is that glitching (ie: roadie runs) haven't been fixed and too many kiddies love to prolong matches by running out of certain maps (ie: Bullet Marsh, Subway).

Union0015
07-24-07, 10:45 PM
anyone else turn off their mic's nowadays? everyone has a huge "E-WANG" in this game and think there all gangsters!

I just got done playing a bunch of matches. Holy cow, did I feel old (and I'm only 25). All the little kiddies love to call each other f**g*t left and right. Seriously, even when I was 12, I would josh around with my friends but I never went and slugged that kind of trash at strangers.

I just turned my mic off completely and played that way.

And I love how the Gears "ranked matches" are supposed to set you up with people of your skill level...yeah, right. I was getting reamed and I've beaten the single-player game on Insane!

AVSers, send me some friend invites, I can't stand playing with or against these 12 year old rugrats any more.

On side note--Live really needs to start matching players by age, too.

FreeBaGeL
07-24-07, 10:58 PM
You guys are definitely missing the boat here. While interest in the game and the thread has died down bigtime you guys definitely need to head into the Gears scheduling thread here on these forums. It's basically exactly what you're asking for Union, a bunch of us non-12 year old kids got together after the game came out and organized a list of people to play together in more mature games. We've all been playing together (and adding new people) for months, and if you can find it a few pages from the end of that thread there's still a list there of all the people you should add to your list should you like to join in and while many have moved on and we no longer have 3 rooms full every night, there are still more than enough to get a good game going most nights.

Union0015
07-25-07, 03:07 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. That looks like to be exactly what I'm looking for!

sb1
07-25-07, 06:41 PM
I just got done playing a bunch of matches. Holy cow, did I feel old (and I'm only 25).

Actually, you're quite a bit younger than many that game in the Gears scheduling thread here. :)

BourbonNcigars

Davio
07-26-07, 09:22 PM
Beating Raam on insane is all about the torque. You need to go in there with full torque ammo. It respawns in the room right before Raam so if you have to just wait there for it to keep respawning until you have full ammo and just keep on firing it off at him.

If you do coop and you both get max torque ammo you can take him down in a matter of seconds.

Exactly. Make sure you have the torque bow already with ammo before going into the final room, then you can max out your ammo. Active reload and keep drilling him, and if he happens to start getting close, just blind lob every one of your grenades right at him as he gets near. He will guaranteed go down.

Davio
07-26-07, 09:24 PM
Ive taken a good 3-4 months off playing online in this game, and now that Ive returned I find it amazing just how much the shotgun has taken over the game. Every match is just a run and gun shotgun slugfest it seems, where your connection can make a big difference as well as your skill with just blind shot shotguns. When I first started playing this it seemed people actually hid and snuck around together. Now its usually teams who play together all the time running and charging with shotguns. Kinda annoying.

FreeBaGeL
07-26-07, 09:54 PM
Ive taken a good 3-4 months off playing online in this game, and now that Ive returned I find it amazing just how much the shotgun has taken over the game. Every match is just a run and gun shotgun slugfest it seems, where your connection can make a big difference as well as your skill with just blind shot shotguns. When I first started playing this it seemed people actually hid and snuck around together. Now its usually teams who play together all the time running and charging with shotguns. Kinda annoying.

Err...you're about 6 months behind. The game (multiplayer wise at least) has been mostly about the shotgun from the get-go. In it's current state with the super-beefed lancer, if anything it's less shotgun oriented than ever before.

SAVholic
07-27-07, 06:41 AM
I just got done playing a bunch of matches. Holy cow, did I feel old (and I'm only 25). All the little kiddies love to call each other f**g*t left and right. Seriously, even when I was 12, I would josh around with my friends but I never went and slugged that kind of trash at strangers.

I just turned my mic off completely and played that way.

And I love how the Gears "ranked matches" are supposed to set you up with people of your skill level...yeah, right. I was getting reamed and I've beaten the single-player game on Insane!

AVSers, send me some friend invites, I can't stand playing with or against these 12 year old rugrats any more.

On side note--Live really needs to start matching players by age, too.

This hapends to me too, I'm also 25 and it is annoying playing this 12 year old kids talking trash, I try to avoid them as much as I can. And lets not forget that videogames are not just "for kids" anymore, the average gamer is over 30 and that average will get higher with time. Kids that play atari 2600 then now play 360/ps3 and will eventually keep playing overtime as game consoles and games get more complex and adult oriented.(IMO)

FreeBaGeL
07-27-07, 08:18 AM
This hapends to me too, I'm also 25 and it is annoying playing this 12 year old kids talking trash, I try to avoid them as much as I can. And lets not forget that videogames are not just "for kids" anymore, the average gamer is over 30 and that average will get higher with time. Kids that play atari 2600 then now play 360/ps3 and will eventually keep playing overtime as game consoles and games get more complex and adult oriented.(IMO)

Read above a little ways...

assasyn
07-27-07, 02:27 PM
New PC content will not be coming to the 360 due to a conflict in the programming code.
No Brumak for XBOXers.

jrogacki
08-10-07, 12:28 PM
I'm fairly new to gears(1 month) and I do see the bulk of people with the shotgun. Any tips for a n00b like me? Like aim low for a splash effect with the shotty..or using the L Trigger for aiming?

Artmic
08-11-07, 07:40 PM
I miss playing GOW on the 360, that is the only game worth owning IMO on consoles these days.

cokebear
09-19-07, 03:51 PM
Wow I guess GOW is dead. At least talking about it is.

bflip1080
09-19-07, 04:25 PM
yea- i got my elite a couple of weeks ago, but i am still waiting on my broadband connection. ive beat Gears on all three difficulties, but have yet to experiance on-line play. i haven't done any online gaming other than tons of halo 2 on my roomates xbox about 2 years ago. i can't wait to play gears and halo 3 online soon. i will still probably do the campaign on H3 before going online.

FreeBaGeL
09-19-07, 09:38 PM
Wow I guess GOW is dead. At least talking about it is.

I think we all play with each other so often now that there's really no need to talk about stuff on the forum since we can just chat about it in-game most any night.

So, when are we gonna test out that new connection of yours? ;)

dropzone7
09-19-07, 10:27 PM
I hope I finally get to join you guys one of these days. Just returned dead Xbox #2 today. :(

formulanerd
09-19-07, 11:00 PM
what is this gears of war you speak of?

sb1
09-20-07, 08:50 AM
Wow I guess GOW is dead. At least talking about it is.

Like I've said many times in our scheduling thread, we accomplished what we set out to do in the beginning, which was build our friend lists up with like minded online Gears players. Now, there's no need to "schedule" a game. Since we've all gotten to know each other through Gears, many of us hit other games together as well. Most of us from Terry's scheduling thread owe a lot to Gears for the amount of fun we're able to have online now because of good people to game with.

General Bourbon

FreeBaGeL
09-20-07, 01:13 PM
Most of us from Terry's scheduling thread owe a lot to Gears for the amount of fun we're able to have online now because of good people to game with.

Amen.

dboss
09-20-07, 01:22 PM
Most of us from Terry's scheduling thread owe a lot to Gears for the amount of fun we're able to have online now because of good people to game with.

General Bourbon

Well said!

treek22
09-21-07, 09:54 AM
Like I've said many times in our scheduling thread, we accomplished what we set out to do in the beginning, which was build our friend lists up with like minded online Gears players. Now, there's no need to "schedule" a game. Since we've all gotten to know each other through Gears, many of us hit other games together as well. Most of us from Terry's scheduling thread owe a lot to Gears for the amount of fun we're able to have online now because of good people to game with.

General Bourbon3rd! It's been (and still is) a fun ride...no matter what game(s) we're playing ...:cool:

kada2k7
12-09-07, 05:57 PM
Guys, I need your help.... While you were playing Gears of war on 360, did you ever notice how the volume of the enemy voices would suddenly become EXTREMELY loud while in battles, and how it seems to be happening randomly? (but still very often). I have this all the time, and it's come to a point where it's ruining the game for me. A monster may be standing 20-30 meters away from me, but his grunts/pain/screams sound as if he was right next to my ear. Sometimes the voice is even louder than the player's own machine gun. I don't know if my Xbox is broken or something... If everyone has this problem, then how come no one has ever commented on it? I must be alone, or 3 million owners of the game must be hearing impaired.... Because there is definitely something wrong with the audio.

Thankful for any answers.... They'd laugh at me if I'd come back to the store to return my Xbox because "the voices are too loud"... They'd think I'm insane.

EDIT: Here's a recording I did.... http://www.algonet.se/~lasverk/gears.mp3
The machine guns are me and my teammate, and the locust you hear is standing on the other side of a courtyard. There is QUITE some distance between us, yet it sounds as if he's right next to my ear.

deveng
12-10-07, 11:14 AM
Its hard to say what the problem is, but I for one found that Gears of War had one of the best sounding soundtracts of all games I have played. The 5.1 (7.1 I use) audio is phenominal, and the directional sounds are very accurate (I can hear which direction someone is walking, and frequently in multiplayer the footsteps I can hear of enemies has frequently saved me.

That being said, give us some more information, what type of setup are you using, what audio processor, and what are the in-game audio settings. Similarly is this happening to any other games (CoD has some pretty good sounds, as do many of the racing games). It could be an issue of the audio setting in game being a little off and a simple adjustment might make the difference. The grunting, cussing, moaning is actually done very well, and helps in localizing the enemies, if it is sporadic, it becomes harder to figure out. experiment with the settings and other games, as well as your surround sound settings.

formulanerd
12-10-07, 12:11 PM
http://www.algonet.se/~lasverk/gears.mp3
The machine guns are me and my teammate, and the locust you hear is standing on the other side of a courtyard. There is QUITE some distance between us, yet it sounds as if he's right next to my ear.

haha, thats nuts..... i dont know what the problem is, but there is definitely a problem there.

Jason0626
12-12-07, 08:58 AM
i have a question about the achievements. if i beat the game on hardcore do i get the achievements for easy?