Ok, since I've now got the Sony burner, anyone know what I can convert and burn? I've got a bunch of TS files but the included burning software doesn't recognize them. Do they need to be in MPEG format?

If it's anything like DVD authoring, you'd have to demultiplex them into the audio and video streams and then drop itin the authoring software. You can't just dump video files on a disc and expect them to play

Right... but it comes with authoring tools. I just need to know what format they recognize ;)

Right... but it comes with authoring tools. I just need to know what format they recognize ;)

The Ulead tools require MPEG2 PS files (so you need to remux TS files).

I have no idea what the Sony tools might accept - since HDV is TS I believe, it might be more TS friendly.

Cheers!

there is free software called HDTV2MPEG2 which converts (very quickly) MPEG2 TS files to .mpg files (that's assuming your TS files are MPEG2, not H.264 which more and more are as H.264 becomes more widespread)

I know this works as I made an HD-DVD using the ULead software

I want to know if there's any software that will allow me to create a Blu-Ray disc that will work in a stand alone player, I have videos from my HD camcorder that I've converted to 1920x1080 MPEG2 but can't get them to work in a stand alone BD player

Yeah, I ended up using VideoRedo last night to convert my files from .ts to mpeg and burned my first disc. I don't have a stand alone player, so I can't say for sure if they work or not. I'd think they should, but I could be wrong :)

Never use HDTV2MPEG2 to convert TS files to MPGs. That feature is unfinished, unsupported and more than likely to mess it up. VideoReDo and Ulead MF5+ (or VS10+) is a good combo for now. Ulead is releasing a more "pro-sumer" application called HD Creater soonish and that one supports AVC and transport streams directly.

So... anyone got any links to cheap media? :)

Mind you, not all (most, I believe) stand alone players play red laser BDs. The Panny BD10 I had for a few days certainly didn't - but it was a pre-production sample. Red laser BDs work fine with PowerDVD 6.6BD, however.

Never use HDTV2MPEG2 to convert TS files to MPGs. That feature is unfinished, unsupported and more than likely to mess it up. well I use it and have done for some time and never had a problem with it

well I use it and have done for some time and never had a problem with it
Consider yourself one lucky b*****. Even the guy who has been developing the application for the past x months is advising against using H2M for TS -> MPG conversion. There's plenty of discussion about that on AVS.

So... anyone got any links to cheap media? :)Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=blu+ray&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all) and Media only (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=blu+ray&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all). From Froogle (http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=%22BD-R%22&hl=en&btnG=Search&lmode=online&scoring=p&sa=N&lnk=next&start=10)

Yeah, Newegg seems to be running the cheapest right now. Makes me shudder spending that much for a blank, but I've got some stuff I'd like to move off of .ts format.

After Authoring using Ulead, is it possible to then burn your compilation to DVD-9 and have it play on a standalone BDplayer or PS3? Has anyone done this yet?

I'm trying to convert some Mpeg2 .TS files to play in standalone Blu-ray players. Also does anyone know if it's possible to author a H.264 TS file to a working Blu-ray disc for play in a standard BD-player on DVD-9?

After Authoring using Ulead, is it possible to then burn your compilation to DVD-9 and have it play on a standalone BDplayer or PS3? Has anyone done this yet?
It's been tried, but standalone players seem to be unable to play red laser BD. I've made a few test discs, and they all work fine on a PC (BD ROM reader + PowerDVD6.6BD), but Panasonic BD standalone wouldn't play them. It recognizes the discs as BD, but won't play.

I'm trying to convert some Mpeg2 .TS files to play in standalone Blu-ray players. Also does anyone know if it's possible to author a H.264 TS file to a working Blu-ray disc for play in a standard BD-player on DVD-9?
Not at the moment.

You could use x264 and Mencoder to turn your MPEG2 TS into an MPEG4 AVC file. Burn that to your DVD and it should play directly on the PS3.

The only limitation would be the filesize of whatever filesystems PS3 supports - JOLIET etc.

It's been tried, but standalone players seem to be unable to play red laser BD. I've made a few test discs, and they all work fine on a PC (BD ROM reader + PowerDVD6.6BD), but Panasonic BD standalone wouldn't play them. It recognizes the discs as BD, but won't play.


Not at the moment.

What were the steps you did to try this? I've been creating the BD file folders and ISO with Ulead 5, from there I've been unable to get it to burn properly to a disc. What settings do you use, which software? I read something about BD being UDF 2.5?

The Panny BD10 I had for a few days certainly didn't

I was able to play an HDMV image on a DVD-R with the BD10. The HDMV was authored with Blu-print. The content was all VC-1. The same would not work on the Samsung.

Both tests were done with original firmware. I have not updated either yet.

I was able to play an HDMV image on a DVD-R with the BD10. The HDMV was authored with Blu-print. The content was all VC-1. The same would not work on the Samsung.

Both tests were done with original firmware. I have not updated either yet.

I've heard about Scenarist HDMV/BD-J which is a better authoring tool than Blu-Print. You can confirm this rumour, sspears? Thanks.

I've heard about Scenarist HDMV/BD-J which is a better authoring tool than Blu-Print. You can confirm this rumour, sspears? Thanks.


Scenarist is the gold standard for disc authoring so thats no surprise.
Sonic practically enabled the standards for HD/BD authoring.


Sonic DVDit! can now author blu-ray with or without menus I think.

Scenarist is the gold standard for disc authoring so thats no surprise.
Sonic practically enabled the standards for HD/BD authoring.


Sonic DVDit! can now author blu-ray with or without menus I think.

DVDit Pro HD creates \BDMV file structures which allows menus, etc... \BDAV is the file structure which does not allow menus (Cyberlink OEM software use this and the recent update now allows the PS3 to read the disk!) I have been unable to get DVDit to create a disk the PS3 can read though I think some other stand-alones work fine. Roxio says the PS3 is the problem. So far DVDit Pro HD has some nagging bugs which I hope Roxio will fix and right now it's the cheapest solution.

I've heard about Scenarist HDMV/BD-J which is a better authoring tool than Blu-Print. You can confirm this rumour, sspears? Thanks.you've got to have a certain spec machine for this though (certain model motherboard etc)

Yeah, right now Scenarist HD is only coming on turnkeys.

Scenarist is the gold standard for disc authoring so thats no surprise.
Sonic practically enabled the standards for HD/BD authoring.

It also is the most confusing piece of software I've ever tried to use. The manual was written by a freaking cryptography team. According to people who use it professionally, once you learn the "language", it's a very powerful tool

Until you do, don't replace the drywall because you're just going to put more fist holes into it :)

I've managed to get a solution for this in the case where menus and fancy navigation is not required beyond chapter/title points. This means BDAV. Cyberlink PowerProducer4's jan '07 patch allows playlists to be played on the PS3 (meaning next chapter advances chapter and then title etc - and it does it without reencoding which is important if you want to preserve the quality of the stream). Just remember to edit the playlist and SAVE the playlist and load the playlist on the PS3.

It burns onto BD-R or BD-RE (I'd recommend BD-RE for now until the bugs are worked out) - It takes about 3 hours to burn a disk with around 22GB ( G=1024x1024x1024 ), and you should never get too close to the edge, leave at least 0.2GB of buffer out of that 22.5GB - the playlist seems to be huge too if you have a lot of chapters and titles.

This works for MPEG2, for AVC or VC1, you're going to have to find something else. Or write your own tool. ;)

As for actual menus, that's a BDMV disk, and I've yet to find one that really works beyond a tiny 1GB test file. I need to spend more time on DVDIt Pro HD, but since that program always reencodes my test mpeg2 files, I am not exactly thrilled with it.

I've managed to get a solution for this in the case where menus and fancy navigation is not required beyond chapter/title points. This means BDAV. Cyberlink PowerProducer4's jan '07 patch allows playlists to be played on the PS3 (meaning next chapter advances chapter and then title etc - and it does it without reencoding which is important if you want to preserve the quality of the stream). Just remember to edit the playlist and SAVE the playlist and load the playlist on the PS3.

It burns onto BD-R or BD-RE (I'd recommend BD-RE for now until the bugs are worked out) - It takes about 3 hours to burn a disk with around 22GB ( G=1024x1024x1024 ), and you should never get too close to the edge, leave at least 0.2GB of buffer out of that 22.5GB - the playlist seems to be huge too if you have a lot of chapters and titles.

This works for MPEG2, for AVC or VC1, you're going to have to find something else. Or write your own tool. ;)

As for actual menus, that's a BDMV disk, and I've yet to find one that really works beyond a tiny 1GB test file. I need to spend more time on DVDIt Pro HD, but since that program always reencodes my test mpeg2 files, I am not exactly thrilled with it.

Just created a project with 3 clips totaling 12gb\playlist\chapter stops\mpeg this morning so hopefully after work I can watch it on the PS3 :D

Definitely stick with BD-RE's till the software/player become more stable.

Just created a project with 3 clips totaling 12gb\playlist\chapter stops\mpeg this morning so hopefully after work I can watch it on the PS3 :D

Definitely stick with BD-RE's till the software/player become more stable.

I'm finding the chapter stops only work if I have one short video title + a one jpeg photoslideshow title. The playlist composed of the video title seems to work. So far, when I have 10 or so different files <2G each, the chapter points are not recognized by the PS3 --- loading the playlist actually disallows all navigation... there must be a flag I didn't set correctly, loading each title allows title advance and chapter points are gone.

Not sure why. Will have to retrace the steps to see if I forgot something.

Hi. I've previously authored basic Blu-ray disks using Encore. If I want to make a Blu-ray profile 1.1 disk, (PIP), can any users recommend Scenarist or Blu-print or even DVDit-Pro to me? I can't see anything about Profile 1.1 compliance on their websites. BD-J yes, for Scanarist and Blu-print, but I am hoping to find a true profile 1.1 authoring solution. I know I can precomp a PIP window and possibly branch, but as I am setting up a new room/workstation I thought to ask for some user's feedback and try to be able to make 1.1 from the start, (and before plonking down tens of thousands of Euros for Scenarist, which looks to be the best). Thanks. Harold

Hi. I've previously authored basic Blu-ray disks using Encore. If I want to make a Blu-ray profile 1.1 disk, (PIP), can any users recommend Scenarist or Blu-print or even DVDit-Pro to me? I can't see anything about Profile 1.1 compliance on their websites. BD-J yes, for Scanarist and Blu-print, but I am hoping to find a true profile 1.1 authoring solution. I know I can precomp a PIP window and possibly branch, but as I am setting up a new room/workstation I thought to ask for some user's feedback and try to be able to make 1.1 from the start, (and before plonking down tens of thousands of Euros for Scenarist, which looks to be the best). Thanks. HaroldI wouldn't touch DVDit Pro HD again, ever, it was a big waste of money for me.

benes,

I will actually be testing that tomorrow. I will report my findings.

That sounds very promising. They appear to have resellers in the UK like "mitcorp.co.uk" and a few in Germany. It looks like its being sold as a Turnkey solution and not software only? Thanks for the info so far.

For TS -> Bluray(M2TS) conversion you could try TsRemux:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125447

Just input your existing .ts file, select the streams you want to keep, and then select Bluray as output. That will output a complete Bluray disc structure that can be burned to BD-R(E). I'd say give it a shot and see what happens. Scenarist can be a pain but I only stick to simple remuxing with it so it's not that bad. Good luck.

benes,

No go on the PS3 doing HD PIP. I hope they add it one day though.

It looks like I need Scenarist, end of story. I assume it will let us make 1080P profile 1.1 disks. My nearest English speaking (I am in Athens), reseller's email is out of order, (www.mitcorp.co.uk). I have some German options and it looks like turnkey solutions cost 150,000 Euros to 60,000 depending on hardware, (Check out http://feg-online.de/sonic/scenarist4/index.html ). I think I will just get a bit more info from Sonic, although they didn't reply to my 2007 enquiries yet...... If anyone has any info they want to hit me with direct, you can search me on IMDB. Cheers, Harold Herbert

I've successfully authored disks using dual layer DVD blanks using Ulead VS 11+ v2.5 complete with menus. The almost 2 hour long file was first converted from MPEG-2 to AVCHD with VS (which took 12-14 hours on a dual core machine) and the VS just remuxed the file. I've done two disks this way and both played fine on my Sony BDP-S300. I've also played MPG and AVCHD files on a regular DVD (both are mentioned in the manual BTW).

I haven't had time to wander through the BD PDFs on specs but it appears that the ability to play some raw files are part of it from what I've scanned so all players may do this. It may also be that a TS file only needs to be renamed with a M2TS extension. I'll give that whirl. I'm also looking at making a utility to remux my Aiptek A-HD 720p files from QT to a transport stream.

What I found was that a TS file only needs the extension changed to MPG and it will play too. No need to remux it as a program stream.

Anyone have Nero 8 and been able to generate an AVCHD file with Nero Vision without it crashing part of the way through? The file is playable what there is of it though looking at it with a hex editor there are 188 byte packets.

Whisckers

Was just snooping around and found this thread....

If your planning on spending that kind of money, I would seriously consider calling Sony and ordering a demo copy of Blu-Print. I've been working with it for the past few weeks and am very surprised how functional it is.

I'm coming from off HD DVD for awhile for obvious reasons and find Blu Print a refreshing change...HDMV is light years easier and quicker than HD DVD Advanced Content authoring. BD-Js another story but most titles really don't need that kind of functionality anyway...unless the client is willing to spend some bucks. If you have spec DVD-Video skills you will have no problems..many of the terms are very similar.

Also, I know Scenarist is just beginning to come on-line now...tons of bugs. Also have you ever dealt with Sonic Support? - not fun. Rob, Brian & Peter At Sony have been the best these last 2 weeks.

Also Sonic won't give you a trial version..maybe because it doesn't work :) Also both tools are 1.1 complaint, its the players which are just starting to support PIP.

Just some advice to think about.

helloitsme, I emailed Sony about blu-print and it seems you need to do some legal stuff with them before they even give you a demo. And they supply a hardware dongle, and if you don't return it within 30 days they charge you the full price for the software.

Did you manage to waive the hardware dongle, to avoid unwanted charges? :)

They need a Dun & Bradstreet report first which is just a business credit report to weed out certain individuals or businesses . Its not a big deal. Yes..it comes with the dongle.

helloitsme,

I would highly disagree with your assessment of Scenarist. I've been using it for about a year and half now with few issues. I do, however, agree with you about there support.

Thats great

You've owned it a year and a half ago you had no issues with it? I guess your lucky. Were talking about V4 right? It does the job - I just have alot of hate for Sonic and the way they treat customers.

I'd really like to find out who & what titles were done with what system. I was under the impression that Scenarist has done very few titles. Doesn't Panasonic have a tool of thier own?

We didn't have anything big enough to hold up production. The few bugs made things inconvenient, but not inoperable. We are using version 4.5 right now and were on version 4.3 for quite some time before that.

Panasonic does have their own tool. I think it's fair to say that Blu-print and Panasonic's tool are used by the major authoring houses. Scenarist, for now, is being used by smaller houses.

I've successfully authored disks using dual layer DVD blanks using Ulead VS 11+ v2.5 complete with menus. The almost 2 hour long file was first converted from MPEG-2 to AVCHD with VS (which took 12-14 hours on a dual core machine) and the VS just remuxed the file. I've done two disks this way and both played fine on my Sony BDP-S300. I've also played MPG and AVCHD files on a regular DVD (both are mentioned in the manual BTW).

I haven't had time to wander through the BD PDFs on specs but it appears that the ability to play some raw files are part of it from what I've scanned so all players may do this. It may also be that a TS file only needs to be renamed with a M2TS extension. I'll give that whirl. I'm also looking at making a utility to remux my Aiptek A-HD 720p files from QT to a transport stream.

when using Ulead VS 11 are you selcting 'avchd' or 'bluray' when you create/ burn a disk ?? and ulead bunrs it for you right ? by that i mean you dont have to use any other software to create the disk. ?? also the sony bdp-s300 is that a USA model or an Australian model blue ray player ???