PS3 Owners First Impressions Thread! [Text View]

mr stroke

11-17-06, 10:23 PM

I am REALLY disapointed here...I know launch consoles are pretty week, but the PS3 has been so overhyped that I guess it is some what of a letdown.

GOOD-
-HDMI-nice to have this.
-Looks great-black finish and glossy case FTW
-zero noise when the system is on
-1080p
-WiFi
-Motorstorm demo ROCKS!

BAD-
-"killer app" Resisitance is VERY disapointing, looks like a high def PS2 game. Graphics looked much better in the screen shots. (after playing Gears of War for a week not much looks good) and the 40 person multiplayer turns out to be 40 people running around like chickens with there heads cut off.Lets hope it gets better over time.
-"XMB" the OS sucks compared to the 360. MS is bright easy to navigate and colorfull, the PS3 is plain and clunky. downloading is slow and your stuck on the same screen(come on sony can't you learn from MS???)
-Online-my biggest fears have came true-Sony does not pack in or sell a mic-this turns into 40 player games(Resistance) with zero coperation and other games with NO VOICE SUPPORT AT ALL(Marvel,Ridge Racer, etc....) NO EXCUSE FOR THIS.....
-All launch games in general are week, or bad 360 ports.
-Blu Ray playback at least with Ricky Boby sucks(washed out colors, and no sharpness, no real visual pop) ,now this just could be this title but compared to my Tosh HD-DVD the PS3 looks like my PC dvd player at best
-SIXAXIS-way to light and I really really miss the rumble. I wish sony would have steped up and re-designed the controller, 360's smokes the SIXAXIS
-600$????!!!!!!!!!

-I guess time will tell with this console, right now its a real big disapointment. Lets hope next year will be better with a revised online plan, and games like MSG4, Motorstorm, and Final Fantasy.

rdank

11-17-06, 11:11 PM

Thing is a dust magnet.

I'd echo most of the comments above.

Ricky Bobby Blu Ray is not very impressive visually. I mean it looks HD, but nothing great. Haven't tried any more. MI3 & Xmen should be here tomorrow.

Resistance is fun. Perhaps not the best graphics, but it's nice, smooth, and quick paced. I'm enjoying it. Haven't hopped online yet.

Motorstorm looks ok. It's obviously good but not nearly the teaser clip they showed. Still, I'll give it a try. The motion steering is fairly interesting. I've been trying to get that down. Sometimes the sensors just seem off a little. Game seems like it could lack variety overall but we'll see.

Downloading F1 now. Will get NBA overnight. I wish they had read just one of the million messages begging MS for background downloading. I guess we'll get it in the future, but it sucks right now.

VegasFlyby

11-17-06, 11:11 PM

Mr Stroke:

My ps3 is sitting on my table unopened. I have one question for you...knowing what you know now, would you buy it again?

rdank

11-17-06, 11:16 PM

Mr Stroke:

My ps3 is sitting on my table unopened. I have one question for you...knowing what you know now, would you buy it again?

In all honesty, there's not much reason to keep it now. I did, but I'm a geek and love toys like this. I don't like to wait if I can avoid it and splurge from time to time. If you can get rid of it and buy one in the Spring, you really aren't going to be missing out on much.

It's a cool toy, and probably something you'll want for sure later, but there's so many reasons why keeping it now might not be the best decision.

Still, if you don't need the money, like games and new tech toys, why not?

VegasFlyby

11-18-06, 12:04 AM

Thanks for your replay rdank. I certainly do like games and new toys so I'm sure I'll open it up tomorrow when I have more time.

mr stroke

11-18-06, 12:07 AM

Mr Stroke:

My ps3 is sitting on my table unopened. I have one question for you...knowing what you know now, would you buy it again?

yes and no-
I never thought I would say this, BUT I wish I would have gottin a Wii :eek:
but ONLY for Zelda, and waited for the PS3.....right now the PS3 is pretty lame, BUT I think when the right games start to roll out it will be a great system...as of right now the 360 is so much better than the PS3, that it makes playing the PS3 hard to do.

VegasFlyby

11-18-06, 12:11 AM

Thanks mr stroke....now I'm on the edge again! :confused: But I really appreciate the feedback.

DaverJ

11-18-06, 12:43 AM

Vegas... if you haven't opened it by now, you probably don't want it that bad.

Personally I like the XMB (Sony's dashboard) and the sixaxis, and am enjoying Resistance a lot. For me I really miss the rumble, and downloading on Sony is really really slow at the moment.

But the 360 is a great system, and if it's either/or, the 360 wins hands down for 2006 because of the vast gaming library. The PS3 is a newborn that I can tell will be a superhero someday, and it will be fun to watch it grow up. If you want to skip the awkward baby stage, there's nothing wrong with that.

TyrantII

11-18-06, 12:55 AM

Anybody get linix on this bad boy yet? Saw a few other did on other sites, but no-one has tried anything along the lines as video players or emulators

William Mapstone

11-18-06, 01:43 AM

Resistance is awesome, I am enjoying the story line.

As others have said, the PS3 is quiet, perfect for watching BD movies. XmenIII looked great. I plan on buying a bunch more since $70 worth of rebates were included in the box.

Slacker George

11-18-06, 01:57 AM

Resistance is awesome, I am enjoying the story line.
Ditto.

Glad you finally got home to enjoy it. :)

Slacker George

11-18-06, 02:03 AM

I just realized, where the heck is Flow? I thought that was supposed to be out at launch.

Felgar

11-18-06, 04:53 AM

Ricky Bobby Blu Ray is not very impressive visually. I mean it looks HD, but nothing great.
Really? I just have it running 720p over HDMI and I find it terrific. Far superior to any broadcast HD I've ever seen and no macroblocking from what I could tell. It looked to me like a very good replication of what the film looked like.

Then again, I don't have an HD-DVD player yet because I'm waiting for the 2nd gens. If HD-DVD is even better than that title I'm sure looking forward to it. Was there something in particular you didn't like about Taledega or something you found lacking?

Felgar

11-18-06, 04:55 AM

(posted this on Digital Home too, but figured I'd share my thoughts here also)

Well, not sure where to start...

- Right now I'm typing this in the GameOS's internet browser using a Gyration wireless keyboard and a Logitech G7 cordless mouse, connected via 802.11b wifi through a Linksys router. A couple notes:
- The browser doesnt feature very good mouse support. It's definately designed to be used with the PS3 controller. In particular no right-click for various things like openning links in new windows. (you do that by holding the R1 button)
- Also all text entry causes a sub-window to pop up, with the idea that you'd enter with the controller. Its like a high-score name entry screen. So for this message, the whole thing is in the sub-window and only shows on the Message box after entry is finished.
- Combined leaves a fairly marginal way to browse. Controller required for many functions but obviously nearly completely useless a text-entry device. Oops, I'm about to hit the buffer limit

Felgar

11-18-06, 04:56 AM

Well there you go. I was wondering if the sub-menu would have a character limit. I'm back on my HTPC now...

- In all it looks like bookmarks are well-supported in the GameOS browser which lends itself to casual surfing. Clearly for all but the simplest (less than 2-3 words of user-entry) the browser it pretty limited. It would be best-suited for things like checking weather, etc. Good lord I can't imagine composing an email in that browser.
- I have a router with a private SSID and various encryptions settings, and the PS3 menu system was able to accomodate it fully, which is obviously important.

What else: Oh, movie playback.
- I've only checked Taladega Nights and also keep in mind that while I'm very familiar with broadcast HD and HTPC mapped NR, I have no HD-DVD player.
- Picture looks great though, clean, smooth, etc. On the fastest racing scenes I detected no macroblocking and I can spot it pretty easily.
- Because there's no 1080i option on HDMI (I haven't tried my component cable yet but I think I will later) I am running 720p into my 50" 1366x768 panasonic plasma. Even at this res, it's still probably the best picture I've ever seen except for slow-moving scenes on CBS football back in 2001/2002.
- The player is reponsive on menus, FF and REW, and I detected no glitches on playback. Oh, I'm also using only Optical Audio and it's just sending DD 5.1 to my receiver on Taladega Nights. The controller works pretty good for controlling the movie actually (helps to be wireless).
- With the movie paused, hitting the PS logo on the controller will bring up a prompt where you can exit back to the XMB (cross-media bar / main PS3 system menu). Going back into the movie it will restart where you left off. *** NOTE: In my experience, exiting to the XMB from a paused movie and then ejecting the disc and inserting and loading a game will result in the game producing no Audio. Restarting the system (hold PS logo down for 5 seconds to get a prompt) fixes the game when you launch after the reboot

Games:
Not much to say. I don't think there are really any suprises here. The games I've dabbled in were solid and look good (Resistance, NHL 2K7, and COD3). All kept up their framerate with no hiccups at all but all are 720p also. I havent used the tilt at all.

General Impressions:
- It's clear to me that the system is targetted toward young adults. The look of the menu, etc definately doesn't convey a "kids will love this feel. To me it feels high-end and refined, which I am quite pleased about. (I'm in my late-20's btw) The touch-sensitive front buttons for eject and power are another example of this.
- I'm happy with the wifi support and the keyboard/mouse hardware support. But now that the system can use them, will any software take advantage (could start with that web browser IMO :))
- The unit is amazingly silent. The DVD drive is far more noisy on seeks than any other sound including the HDD, the DVD spin, and the system fan.
- I've had no random crashes that would make me worried about heat or compatibility. The one crash I had was because I couldn't figure out how to exit the game (hold PS for 5 secs btw, a little different than when playing a movie) and I just ejected the game disc hoping it would prompt for a return to the XMB. Instead it just froze.
- After getting wifi connected, before allowing me to launch the browser it said there's an update and I need to install it before I can do the browser. It gave an option between Internet download or from a storage medium and choose the download. It actually took about 10 mins to DL on a connection which can get about 5mbps. There was no download rate (only a percent bar) so I'm not sure if the download site was slow or if it was a big update. Anyways, I'm running 1.1 now I guess.
- On the no sound glitch and reboot I was thinking to myself "geez, Sony's always said it was a computer but they never said it was a Windows box that needs to be rebooted continually." :)

Anyways, I guess that's it for now. If you have any questions fire away...

Oh, one last thing I wanted to mention is that from what I can see right now, to function as even a marginally-capable HTPC, Linux will be required. Maybe for just media playback you could live with the XMB, but managing downloads, etc would be quite cumbersome and difficult from what I've seen. Maybe I'll have a chance to get Linux installed tomorrow...

zzoli

11-18-06, 05:29 AM

Good review, Felgar!

woodface

11-18-06, 05:51 AM

One thing I want to chip in that hasn't really been touched on is the overall "cool" factor of the PS3. I have a 360 and love it, but it's pretty much just a game machine to me. It can play HD-DVDs, but I don't really want to buy the HD-DVD drive and have yet another power brick behind my tv.

The subtle touches on the PS3--like touch sensitive buttons, hard-drive and network LEDs on the front, slot-loading, etc.--are really nice. I like that the PS3 has built-in blu-ray support, allows you to swap out a hard drive easily, change the OS, hook up USB peripherals, etc. With my 360, it's pretty much a static piece of hardware. I look at a PS3 as more of a flexible piece of hardware. I know the games will be there for PS3 eventually, so I'm willing to play 360 games until that happens.

It's silly to bash one console or the other. Everybody wins if both consoles are successful. Look at how mediocre Madden 07 is as a result of the lack of competition. I'll probably be playing MVP Baseball 05 until 2010 thanks to the lack of any competition for baseball games. Even if I were devoted solely to 360, I would be praying for PS3 to do well so MS has some reason to put out good software.

FrankWhiteFrank

11-18-06, 01:30 PM

Thanks

Mrrsteelers

11-18-06, 02:09 PM

I'm starting to like browsing with the PS3 controller. The psp sucks because of the one stick, but with two sticks its almost as nice as a mouse. Just takes a little getting used to, then it's way more comfy because I'm not confined to a flat surface within a foot of my right side. I use a wireless mouse right on the armrest of my recliner for my computer and even that can get painful on the wrist.

Something I found kinda funny, I got over 400 songs bought on sony connect(their online music site) and I can't get to them on PS3, it says I need Windows...HA. Also the only way to rip songs is from a cd. It recognizes and plays all my music from either one of my sony mp3 players( 1GB flash and a 8GB hdd) but won't transfer from them.

I'm still working on getting movies to play from the 300 GB hdd. So far I can't get any MP4's recognized at all. Maybe MP4 isn't supported yet?

woodface

11-18-06, 02:20 PM

I'm still working on getting movies to play from the 300 GB hdd. So far I can't get any MP4's recognized at all. Maybe MP4 isn't supported yet?

I can't get any video on an external drive recognized. Not even mpegs. Are NTFS volumes going to be readable, or is this thing going to require FAT32 in order to work(like the Avel Linkplayer)? Also, does anyone know if files burned on DVD have to be formated as ISO in order to be recognized?

I really like the multiple file selection feature that allows you to copy multiple files from media to the PS3 hard drive. Lots of cool little features throughout the interface.

Slacker George

11-18-06, 02:21 PM

Mrrsteelers

11-18-06, 02:25 PM

My HDD was recognized. Just showed as empty under video and the music folders showed up by name but were empty also.

johnwcookjr

11-18-06, 04:34 PM

Michael St. Clair

11-18-06, 04:40 PM

Are there any limitations on content that is connected via USB drives? Can demos be stored on USB drives? All multimedia types? Is there a size limit on connected drives?

Zzz..oltan!

11-18-06, 05:35 PM

Personally I like the XMB (Sony's dashboard) and the sixaxis, and am enjoying Resistance a lot. For me I really miss the rumble, and downloading on Sony is really really slow at the moment.

But the 360 is a great system, and if it's either/or, the 360 wins hands down for 2006 because of the vast gaming library. The PS3 is a newborn that I can tell will be a superhero someday, and it will be fun to watch it grow up. If you want to skip the awkward baby stage, there's nothing wrong with that.

- Well said.

Regarding the price: the console is almost silent and that alone is worth a 100 dollar premium over the 360 in my book. Add another $100 to that for being shiny black... So my math is: 600-100=400=what I paid for my 360. So I have a Blu-ray player for free!!!

:p

Dahlsim

11-18-06, 06:12 PM

Off the top:

Pros:

- Nice looking system for an av rack, and the 360 should have a black option

- Quiet

- Online shows promise already with a few cool downloadable demos on day 1, fun arcade style and video downloads in 1080p - I like paying in plain old money instead of points too.

- Blu-ray player is solid with good menu access. Several good movies.

- Motostorm Demo :)

- NBA 07 - looks good, plays good.

Cons

- 1080i upscale failure. (only bad if you have such a set, but still a minus overall)

- Audio failure on blu-ray games on optical - not sure how many this affects or what the precise issue is, but so far it's the 1st time I've had this kind of audio problem out of a launch system and I may have to drop back to stereo sound till it's resolved :(

- Resistance - won't judge it too much yet but my 1st impression is it looks just "ok" for next-gen

- Dark Kingdom - bought this due to a friend for coop and I like hack & slash, but it's below par graphically, no other way to put it.

- I've got about 10 BD movies already. Quality is good in general (I mean it's HD) but spotty. Some are worst than others by quite a margin. HD-DVD (I have 20) is much more consistent in overall quality.

- Looks good for AV rack but not a good system to carry around to a LAN party or such things that are done sometimes with consoles. Big & heavy.

Hughmc

11-18-06, 06:34 PM

You guys are bumming me. Most comment so far about games are they look ok but not nes gen.

BD movies look OK, but nothing spectacular?

Audio issues, etc.

I am a PS fan and I admit it. I was actually contemplating the 360 then blew it off wanting to stay with one format. I still have zero intention of buying a 360. I was just hoping for a bit more positive feedback than what I have seen so far on the PS3.

I am hoping lost of this is because it is just out and bugs and things in general wil improve. Here's hoping.

DaverJ

11-18-06, 06:57 PM

You guys are bumming me. Most comment so far about games are they look ok but not nes gen.

Hugh... if it makes you feel any better, I haven't been able to turn off the PS3 in two days -- I'm glued to it! I've posted a few minor things that haven't been perfect for me, but so far there's nothing close to a deal breaker.

The PS3 is a fantastic system that really feels next gen. I have a feeling at some point all Playstation fans will own one and love it. There might be a couple issues to talk about, but overall it's pretty awesome. :cool:

Slacker George

11-18-06, 07:30 PM

I have 480p 720p and 1080i gamiing and blu-ray apps all working well on our PS3 via HDMI except for Call of Duty 3 which defaults back to 480P only.

Anyone know how to change the resolution in COD3?

Regards, JohnIt's a problem with the PS3 not being able to upscale 720p games. The only way to get COD3 and other 720p games to run at 720p is to put your PS3's display setting at 720p before you start the game. Major pain in the ass.

Are there any limitations on content that is connected via USB drives? Can demos be stored on USB drives? All multimedia types? Is there a size limit on connected drives? Games and demos can only be stored on the internal HDD. Videos, photos, and music can be moved around. Don't know of any size limits on external media.

Michael St. Clair

11-18-06, 07:40 PM

I guess the ideal external USB drive for media would be a NAS drive that also works via USB, I know there are some. That kind of works around the whole PC sharing thing, to a degree. Playing sneakernet just isn't acceptable.

Slacker George

11-18-06, 07:45 PM

Hugh... if it makes you feel any better, I haven't been able to turn off the PS3 in two days -- I'm glued to it! I've posted a few minor things that haven't been perfect for me, but so far there's nothing close to a deal breaker.

The PS3 is a fantastic system that really feels next gen. I have a feeling at some point all Playstation fans will own one and love it. There might be a couple issues to talk about, but overall it's pretty awesome. :cool:Agreed. Those that already own a 360 will understandably be a little jaded. But if the PS3 is your first jump into next-gen gaming everything will be fresh to you. I doubt you'll be disappointed.

The major negatives I see:

Lack of support for 1080i in most games. You'll have to have a TV that supports 720p input.

The launch line-up is admittedly thin. Resistance is a great game, single-player and online. The 2k sports games are very good. RR7 is good if you're into that kind of racing. Everything else is average or worse, judging by the reviews.

Hetz

11-18-06, 08:29 PM

- Audio failure on blu-ray games on optical - not sure how many this affects or what the precise issue is, but so far it's the 1st time I've had this kind of audio problem out of a launch system and I may have to drop back to stereo sound till it's resolved

Check out the problems thread. There is an easy fix. Just reboot the console after you watch a Blu-Ray movie....then the sound will work again. The audio problem ONLY happens after you watch a Blu-Ray movie, then try and play a PS3 Game Disc right afterwords.

Hughmc

11-18-06, 09:21 PM

Wow!. I didn't even realize I had those typos in my post # 49.

Thanks Slacker and Daver for giving me some hope. I am going to wait and buy in 6+ months or fall of next year when more readily available and Sony and you guinea pigs :) have the bugs worked out. I really looked forward to it then. I am a landscaper so winter I spend a lot of time with games and movies. I am actually looking forward to the BD as much as the gaming end although I am an avid gamer. I almost watch only the HD channels anymore, and when I watch a DVD through my HTPC it is good, but so look forward to watching movies in HD.

Slacker George

11-18-06, 09:24 PM

TwinTurboZX

11-19-06, 04:37 AM

Those of you with the 60GB model, how much free space did you have when you first started up your PS3? Mine said 47GB left out of 60GB. Where did the remaining 13GB go? :confused:

Halfpipetrick

11-19-06, 04:40 AM

Sure I'd love it if only I could get it to work with my month old Fujitsu 50" PDP...HDMI does not work. Tried turning it off then holding the on button til the second beep...nada. I'm only getting 480 in black and white over component...very disappointed so far..calling Sony first thing Sunday morning...

pappy97

11-19-06, 04:45 AM

danvitale

11-19-06, 05:25 AM

The Ricky Bobby BluRay disk supplied with the PS3 is the BR25 version, not the retail BR50 disk.. that will explain the lower quality.

Johnla

11-19-06, 05:42 AM

Those of you with the 60GB model, how much free space did you have when you first started up your PS3? Mine said 47GB left out of 60GB. Where did the remaining 13GB go? :confused:

You must never have installed just a bare H/D in anything have you? Because even a bare 60gb H/D will not have a full 60gb of actual space available for you to use. Close to 10gb of the 13gb that you don't have, is probably due to the normal loss of a 60gb drive, as the normal loss can be as high as 19% of the advertised capacity. Part of it is due to they ways they advertise drive space and how they measure bytes when doing so, and in the ways that the formatted capacity really are. It's more like there is a inflated advertised capacity, and then there is a actual formatted usable capacity.

Mrrsteelers

11-19-06, 05:43 AM

Games and demos can only be stored on the internal HDD. Videos, photos, and music can be moved around. Don't know of any size limits on external media.

Your right about games and playable demos, the trailers can be moved and copied.

I got MP4's to work off my 300GB HDD. Everything has to be set up exactly like PSP. (mp root folder) Side note, I also finally figured out how to rename MP4's (rename the VOB file before converting to MP4) Which helps because my MP4's come out with a number and won't play if you rename it.

Twinturbo- Not sure why you had 47 gb free. Mine was 55 of 60 free before any dling.

Slacker George

11-19-06, 08:08 AM

Out of curiosity what's the default name for everyone's PS3? Mine is PS3-935. I wonder if they're all sequentially numbered starting at 1.

Blkout

11-19-06, 08:36 AM

paulwozniak

11-19-06, 10:45 AM

None of you guys sold yours on ebay for the 4K profit?

Daekwan

11-19-06, 11:19 AM

Theyre going for a $1000 or less right now on ebay..

I definitely wanted one.. and that price is more than reasonable.. but with the reviews so far I'll wait until next year to scoop one..

Like the guy said before you can tell this thing is a baby that will grow up to be a Superhero.. Im just waiting until it graduates high school then lol

TwinTurboZX

11-19-06, 05:21 PM

You must never have installed just a bare H/D in anything have you? Because even a bare 60gb H/D will not have a full 60gb of actual space available for you to use. Close to 10gb of the 13gb that you don't have, is probably due to the normal loss of a 60gb drive, as the normal loss can be as high as 19% of the advertised capacity. Part of it is due to they ways they advertise drive space and how they measure bytes when doing so, and in the ways that the formatted capacity really are. It's more like there is a inflated advertised capacity, and then there is a actual formatted usable capacity.

I understand that, but a 60GB HD formatted should have at least 52GB left. Even Mrrsteelers says his had 55GB. This is weird, can anyone else report how much free space was on the HD when they first hooked up the PS3? Thanks.

DaverJ

11-19-06, 05:43 PM

I think I was around 55gigs too.

roma_victor

11-19-06, 06:11 PM

The Ricky Bobby BluRay disk supplied with the PS3 is the BR25 version, not the retail BR50 disk.. that will explain the lower quality.

Actually, the blu ray BD 50 version got a 2 out of 5 rating for picture quality on a review, discussed here at another avs forum thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=751008

In fact, some people were hoping that the rated (shorter) version of the movie which is bundled with the PS3 would have better picture quality than the unrated (longer) BD 50 version.

woodface

11-20-06, 12:02 AM

"Cool" factor wears off after a few days and then your left with the actual product. No offense, but "cool" factor doesn't mean anything.

Okay let me elaborate on "cool" then. When I bought my 360, I was disappointed and completely underwhelmed IMMEDIATELY by the lack of any functionality in the console beyond playing games and music. MS had billed it as some kind of entertainment hub but the thing can only play Windows Media videos and lacked any great features out of the box.

I spent a few minutes messing with my 360 when I got it, but it was clear it basically played games. The PS3 has much more functionality and is more of an entertainment "hub" than MS is willing to ever let the 360 be. I tried using Media Player 11 to stream to my 360 and it stinks. Same goes for Media Connect.

So far on my PS3 I've played mpeg-2 high-def files, ripped audio CDs to AAC, attached external storage, and have the ability to change the OS and the hard drive without paying MS $100 for 20 gigs of space. That's "cool" stuff that doesn't wear off.

The games aren't there yet, but they never are at this point for a new console. I played Project Gotham for a couple months before anything else interested me on 360. I'll probably buy games for 360 as long as they aren't out on PS3, but the PS3 is a better piece of hardware to me.

Johnla

11-20-06, 02:00 AM

I understand that, but a 60GB HD formatted should have at least 52GB left.

No, for one thing it depends on the brand of H/D, plus there is no such thing as a rule for a certain amount being left over on a drive. If you take a 60gb drive from Seagate, Maxtor, Western Digital, Samsung, and Hitachi. Chances are probably about 99%+ that all 5 of them would have a different actual formatted capacity, and that none of them would be exactly the same as even just 1 of the other ones.

Rieper

11-20-06, 08:50 AM

cdhender

11-20-06, 09:43 AM

So far on my PS3 I've played mpeg-2 high-def files, ripped audio CDs to AAC, attached external storage, and have the ability to change the OS and the hard drive without paying MS $100 for 20 gigs of space. That's "cool" stuff that doesn't wear off.

I hope there's more to it than that. How many of those features do most people need or even consider cool? Who needs to play hgh def files through a gaming system? Who needs to run Linux? I'd say less than 5% of current and future ps3 owners will use those "features".

I'd rather Sony cut the price by 100 bucks and exclude those "features".

I will say, the abiity to swap a harddrive is sweet though.

woodface

11-20-06, 10:30 AM

I hope there's more to it than that. How many of those features do most people need or even consider cool? Who needs to play hgh def files through a gaming system? Who needs to run Linux? I'd say less than 5% of current and future ps3 owners will use those "features".

I'd rather Sony cut the price by 100 bucks and exclude those "features".

I will say, the abiity to swap a harddrive is sweet though.

"I hope there's more to it than that"-- How much more do you want? A time machine, virtual reality, holograms? Sure, most of the features I listed won't be huge for average gamers, but it's still a lot of stuff that is over and above what is on a 360 console. I can't think of anything that my 360 has that my PS3 doesn't have(except a game library), and PS3 has more features on top of that.

I like both consoles, I just feel like MS wasn't all that innovative with the features on their console. When both of these consoles were in development, both companies were talking about how their console would be more than just a gaming console. I think Sony is the only one that followed through on that.

A feature I forgot to mention as a strength in the comparison is the noise. My 360 makes at least twice as much noise as my PS3. My HD-ILA TV has a loud fan and adding the 360 to that is a real racket.

Regardless of the comparison, it's really cool to have 2 consoles that I really like. Too bad Wii is all monkeys, hamsters, and dragons or I would grab one of those too...

Slacker George

11-20-06, 11:06 AM

Are PS3 games natively 720p or 1080i/p? I own a Samsung 720p LCD, and if games are made in 720p natively, I couldn't care less about upscaling them to 1080i/p.

Can someone confirm this for me? Thanks in adv.Technically since the PS3 isn't doing any scaling it's about maximum resolution rather than native resolution. The majority will render at 720p max. The ones that are 1080p maximum will also redner at 720p if that's what your PS3 is set to.

cdhender

11-20-06, 11:08 AM

I can't think of anything that my 360 has that my PS3 doesn't have(except a game library)

I think you are forgetting a lot of things that the 360 can do that the ps3 can't:

1. On my 360, I can play any game or any high-def movie in 720p, 1080i or 1080p. On the ps3 this is not so.

2. On my 360 I have one gamertag that is usable for all games. I can communicate with anyone on my friends list, through text or voice, at any time. On the ps3, this is not so.

3. On my 360, I can play custom soundtrack for any game, at any time. Again, on the ps3, this isn't so.

I could go on but I won't. It may sound like I'm "hating" on the ps3 but that couldn't be further from the truth. The truth is, I believe Sony rushed the launch and there are few features that are missing, especially when it comes down to the online relm. I want one, but I want one with all these issues fixed.

Check out an article from the NY Times. He makes some good points but thankfully most off his complaints can be fixed with patches I think. Which is why I'm waiting for now. KEY POINTS ARE IN BOLD BELOW

Howard Stringer, you have a problem. Your company’s new video game system just isn’t that great.

Ever since Mr. Stringer took the helm last year at Sony, the struggling if still formidable electronics giant, the world has been hearing about how the coming PlayStation 3 would save the company, or at least revitalize it. Even after Microsoft took the lead in the video-game wars a year ago with its innovative and powerful Xbox 360, Sony blithely insisted that the PS3 would leapfrog all competition to deliver an unsurpassed level of fun.

Put bluntly, Sony has failed to deliver on that promise.

Measured in megaflops, gigabytes and other technical benchmarks, the PlayStation 3 is certainly the world’s most powerful game console. It falls far short, however, of providing the world’s most engaging overall entertainment experience. There is a big difference, and Sony seems to have confused one for the other.

The PS3, which was introduced in North America on Friday with a hefty $599 price tag for the top version, certainly delivers gorgeous graphics. But they are not discernibly prettier than the Xbox 360’s. More important, the whole PlayStation 3 system is surprisingly clunky to use and simply does not provide many basic functions that users have come to expect, especially online.

I have spent more than 30 hours using the PlayStation 3 over the last week or so and may have played more different games on the system — 13 — than probably anyone outside of Sony itself. Sony did not activate the PS3’s online service until just before the Friday debut. Over the weekend a clear sense of disappointment with the PlayStation 3 emerged from many gamers.

“What’s weird is that the PS3 was originally supposed to come out in the spring, and here it came out in the fall, and it still doesn’t feel finished,” Christopher Grant, managing editor of Joystiq, one of the world’s biggest video-game blogs, said on the telephone Saturday night. “It’s really not the all-star showing they should have had at launch. Sony is playing catch-up in a lot of ways now, not just in terms of sales but in terms of the basic functionality and usability of the system.”

Sadly for Sony, the best way to explain how the PlayStation 3 falls short is to explain how different it is to use than its main competition, Xbox 360. When I reviewed the 360 last year, I wrote: “Twelve minutes after opening the box, I had created my nickname, was in a game of Quake 4 and thought, ‘This can’t be this easy.’ ”

I never felt that way using the PlayStation 3. With the PS3, 12 minutes after opening the box I realized that Sony inexplicably does not include cables to connect the machine to a high-definition television. Keep in mind that one of Sony’s main selling points has been that the PS3 plays Blu-Ray high-definition movie discs. But high-definiton cables? Sold separately. The Xbox 360, by contrast, ships with one cable that can connect to either a standard or high-definition set.

Then, before you are even using the PS3, you have to connect the “wireless” controller to the base unit with a USB cable so they can recognize each other. If you bring your PS3 controller to a friend’s house, you’ll have to plug back in again. The 360’s wireless controllers are always just that, wireless.

If there is one thing one would expect Sony to get perfect, though, it would be music. Wrong. Sure, you can plug in your digital music player and the PS3 will play the tunes. But as soon as you go into a game, the music stops. By contrast, one of the things I’ve always enjoyed most on the Xbox 360 is being able to listen to my own music while playing Pebble Beach or driving my virtual Ferrari. Doesn’t seem too complicated, but the PS3 can’t do it.

In that sense it often feels as if the PlayStation 3 can’t walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. In the PS3’s online store (which feels like a slow Web page) you can access movie trailers and trial versions of new games, but when you actually download the 600-megabyte files, you’ll be stuck watching a progress bar crawl across the screen for 20 or 40 minutes. Astonishingly, you can’t download in the background while you go do something that’s more fun (like play a game). On the Xbox 360, not only are files downloaded seamlessly in the background, but you can also shut off the machine, turn it on later, and the download will resume automatically.

The PS3’s whole online experience feels tacked-on and unpolished. On the Xbox 360 each user has a single unified friends list, so you can track your friends and communicate with them easily, no matter what game you are in. On the PlayStation 3 most games have their own separate friends list and some have no friends function at all. There is a master list as well, but in order to communicate with anyone on it, you have to quit the game you are playing.

There are some high points. The multi-player battles in Resistance: Fall of Man are excellent. The arcade-style action in the downloadable Blast Factor is suitably frantic.

But the list of the PS3’s disappointments remains, from its undersupported voice chat to its maddening cellphone-like text messaging system. (In frustration I ended up plugging in a USB keyboard.) Overall, Sony seems to have put a lot of effort into cramming as much silicon horsepower under the hood as possible but to have forgotten that all the transistors in the world can’t make someone smile.

And so it is a bit of a shock to realize that on the video game front Microsoft and Sony are moving in exactly the opposite directions one might expect given their roots. Microsoft, the prototypical PC company, has made the Xbox 360 into a powerful but intuitive, welcoming, people-friendly system. Sony’s PlayStation 3, on the other hand, often feels like a brawny but somewhat recalcitrant specialized computer. (Sony is even telling users to wait for future software patches to fix some of the PS3’s deficiencies.) The thing is, if people want to use a computer, they’ll use a computer.

Through the decades of the Walkman and the Trinitron television, Sony was renowned as the global master of easy-to-use, seamlessly powerful consumer electronics. But recently Sony seems to have lost its way, first in digital music players, in which it ceded the ergonomic high ground to Apple’s iPod, and now in home-game consoles. For now Sony’s technologists seem to have won out over the people who study fun.

As a practical matter, given the limited quantities Sony has been able to manufacture, the PlayStation 3 will surely remain sold out throughout the holiday season. If you can’t find one, don’t fret. Sony still has a lot of work to do. As Mr. Grant of Joystiq put it: “Maybe in six months it’ll be finished. Maybe by next fall I’ll be able to do all the cool stuff. I’m still kind of waiting.”

Daekwan

11-20-06, 01:56 PM

"I hope there's more to it than that"-- How much more do you want? A time machine, virtual reality, holograms? Sure, most of the features I listed won't be huge for average gamers, but it's still a lot of stuff that is over and above what is on a 360 console. I can't think of anything that my 360 has that my PS3 doesn't have(except a game library), and PS3 has more features on top of that.

I like both consoles, I just feel like MS wasn't all that innovative with the features on their console. When both of these consoles were in development, both companies were talking about how their console would be more than just a gaming console. I think Sony is the only one that followed through on that.

A feature I forgot to mention as a strength in the comparison is the noise. My 360 makes at least twice as much noise as my PS3. My HD-ILA TV has a loud fan and adding the 360 to that is a real racket.

Regardless of the comparison, it's really cool to have 2 consoles that I really like. Too bad Wii is all monkeys, hamsters, and dragons or I would grab one of those too...

Dude what the hell are you talking about.. your **innovative** PS3 features were:

1) Playing hi def files
2) Ripping audio CDs
3) Attach external storage
4) Change the OS
5) Change the Harddrive

Look your quote over again:

"So far on my PS3 I've played mpeg-2 high-def files, ripped audio CDs to AAC, attached external storage, and have the ability to change the OS and the hard drive without paying MS $100 for 20 gigs of space. That's "cool" stuff that doesn't wear off. "

The first 3 things you listed the 360 does.. it will play HD files.. shyt as a matter of fact you can download HD movies, shows, etc.. it will also now play them off a cd.. off a computer.. off a network.. off a digital camera.. off a USB jumpdrive.. etc..

Xbox has ALWAYS ripped audio cd's to the harddrive.. You want to really talk something **COOL** as you put it?? I can remember back in 2001 playing Project Gotham Racing over a friends house for the first time and listening to JayZ while driving the cars in the game.. YES! even the original Xbox did this 6 years ago.. And you could listen to the music in games! 6 years later the PS3 still cant do this..

Attach external storage?? I had my 80gig USB 2.0 external harddrive plugged and recognized by my 360 on launch day LAST year. The 360 hooks up just fine to external USB storage.. both harddrives and a jumpdisks.. and you can play pictures, videos and music off them just fine.

So what you cant change the OS.. big deal.. I've probably owned 20 different computers over the past 20 years and you know what.. I have never had a need to install Linux on a single one of those.. and neither do most people.. As much as people brag about the Linux capability look around.. this is geektown USA.. and you have 1 person.. who posted 1 thread.. about someone ELSE they saw install Linux on their PS3. Is it a nice feature to have.. YES!.. do 90% of us even care.. NOPE! will 99% of us ever install Linux on our PS3.. NOPE!

I will admit the ability to change your own harddrive is probably the #1 advantage the PS3 has in capability hardware wise.. but even given that I dont care that M$ makes us buy a harddrive from THEM instead of ANYBODY. I care that they are straight gouging us by making us pay them $100 bucks for 20 gigs.. when it should be a $100 bucks for a 100 gigs!! M$ can make the harddrive as properitary as they like.. just give us market-reasonable prices for upgrading it.

But so far the PS3 games.. the BluRay.. the wireless.. and of course the online ability have all been receiving VERY suspect reviews and are being rated as good by most and very good by others.. but not absolutely *MUST HAVE* or ground breaking by ANYBODY.. look around even the people in this thread are saying the same thing..

Look I know where you are coming from.. you've waited a 2 years for a PS3 to finally arrive at store.. hell you probably spent the night waiting at that store.. hell maybe even a couple of nights in some cases just to buy it.. you just paid over $600 for it.. and you want to be acknowledged for being one of the first people with it.. and I understand that.. trust me..

But you are making yourself look silly with the excuses you are giving for it being so cool.. lol

You make a much better argument for its "cool factor" as far as the shape of it.. how quiet it is.. and the touch sensitive buttons.. Hell I could only hope the 360 looks that cool one day.

But as far as features, gaming, online play and delivering a multimedia experience.. the PS3 is nowhere near the same league as the 360. As the above article said.. Sony still has alot of work to do.. Maybe 6months to a year from now we can come back and argue 'how cool' the features actually are on a PS3. And this time we wont have to talk about the shape, silent operation or buttons.. We can actually talk about the games.. the movie playback.. and the online experience.. you know all that shyt that really matters!!

cubbiechris

11-20-06, 03:55 PM

I will get a PS3 eventually but after playing with my buddies PS3 I can honestly say that the 360 is flat-out more fun. The achivements, online, and dashboard are far, far ahead of PS3. The 360 is just much, much more thought out...I honestly expected more from the PS3 on-line. They were saying it's a Live killer? They are not even in the same league. Free or not.

Axiom

11-20-06, 05:49 PM

DaverJ

11-20-06, 09:51 PM

Untold Legends didn't come in at my Gamestop yet, so I only have Resistance.

You lucked out.

Untold Legends showed up from GameFly today, and for me this was my first underwhelming experience with the PS3. :( ...and I'm easy to please (I love Resistance), if that tells you anything.

ay221

11-20-06, 10:20 PM

Sony PS3 worth the wait and price

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,230798,00.html

AMartin56

11-20-06, 10:37 PM

Sony PS3 worth the wait and price

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,230798,00.html

Yeah, but Fox News likes George W. Bush. Their taste is suspect...

ay221

11-20-06, 11:15 PM

Yeah, but Fox News likes George W. Bush. Their taste is suspect...

Forum rules prohibit talk of politics. I suggest you read them.

dsanders_sco

11-21-06, 08:26 AM

Sony PS3 worth the wait and price - Fox Review

But can Fox News be trusted to give an "independent" review. In the UK, the Times or BSkyB would have to clearly state they have a link to News Corporation (the owner of The Times and Fox News) who are the owners of Fox Studios - a major backer of blu-ray.

Do they not have to do that in the US or is it just accepted that any review will be editorially impartial? Apologies if this was explicit in the review and I just missed it :)

woodface

11-21-06, 09:50 AM

It sounds to me that the preference for 360 or PS3 is purely personal for anyone, depending on what that person wants in a console. I keep hearing about gamer achievements being some great feature for 360, but I couldn't care less. I've never once paid attention to my "achievements" and consider that to be a pretty useless thing. On the other hand, playing videos other than Windows Media is a big deal to me(maybe not to others).

Most of the strengths of the 360 are due to it being out for a whole year. At launch the 360 was far more limited than it is now. Whatever is lacking in the PS3 now could be added by Sony if people want it enough. All I know is, when I turn on my 360 all I do with it is play games. I've had my PS3 since Friday and have spent a lot of time doing other stuff. I was bored with my 360 soon after turning it on. It's a superb game machine, but I like be able to do the stuff I can do on my PS3. If somehow the games never come through for PS3, then it will have been a waste of money. But for now, I really like it a lot(which seems to offend some 360 fans).

Even though I love both consoles, I would never wait in line for either. I pre-ordered both and walked out of the store with no fuss. I've never even owned a PS2 so I'm certainly not a PS fanboy. Either way you look at it, both companies had flaws in their machines at launch and features that weren't there yet.

woodface

11-21-06, 09:59 AM

Untold Legends didn't come in at my Gamestop yet, so I only have Resistance. It's fun, but graphically it's closer to the 360 version of COD2 than to Gears of War. PS3 online seems disconnected and cobbled together when I weigh it against Xbox Live. I agree with the NYT article that the PS Store seems like a slow webpage.

I am 100% sure it will get better, and I don't regret getting one, but my first hours with it weren't too exciting. If I hadn't spent a year with the 360, I might be more impressed, but for now, I'll play through Resistance and wait for more games and some interface updates.

I would agree with all of this, other than feeling underwhelmed with the console. The PS store is pretty lame, but I wasn't all that impressed with Xbox Live Marketplace after launch either. Resistance is fun, but not graphically dazzling. 360 launch games weren't mind-blowing to me either. Gotham was an amazing game, but didn't show the full power of the console.

I think after 1 year the PS3 software and online service will be much improved, just as the 360 was. I'm hearing a lot of the same criticisms of PS3 that I heard of the 360 when it launched, but it seems some have selective memories of the 360's early days.

woodface

11-21-06, 10:13 AM

Dude what the hell are you talking about.. your **innovative** PS3 features were:

1) Playing hi def files
2) Ripping audio CDs
3) Attach external storage
4) Change the OS
5) Change the Harddrive

Look I know where you are coming from.. you've waited a 2 years for a PS3 to finally arrive at store.. hell you probably spent the night waiting at that store.. hell maybe even a couple of nights in some cases just to buy it.. you just paid over $600 for it.. and you want to be acknowledged for being one of the first people with it.. and I understand that.. trust me..

But you are making yourself look silly with the excuses you are giving for it being so cool.. lol

Why are you so incredulous that someone likes PS3 more than 360? You sound like you're personally offended. I merely listed a bunch of features that my PS3 has that my 360 doesn't, or doesn't do as well. Unlike you, I really don't care what other people are saying about it. I don't base my opinions on other people's experiences. There are a lot of people saying they aren't fanboys, but I hear a lot of people being pretty aggressive in attacking a console they don't even have.

You obviously like your 360, but you go out of your way to build it up to god-like status while dissing the PS3. I like my 360 too. But I like my PS3 more in a lot of ways, and less than 360 in others. It's that simple. You don't have to post 10 paragraphs as an ode to your 360. You like it. I get it.

Axiom

11-21-06, 10:25 AM

I'm hearing a lot of the same criticisms of PS3 that I heard of the 360 when it launched, but it seems some have selective memories of the 360's early days.

I do remember the bad things about the 360 launch (and the whole first year), but I initially bought 9 of the 19 launch titles for the 360, and enjoyed most of them. I am only getting 2 of the PS3 launch games. I know things will get better as more games come out, but most people will be comparing the current 360 to the current PS3. Since the 360 was a big jump ahead of what was currently out there, I think I was more impressed. Since the PS3 isn't immediately leapfrogging the current competition to me, I guess I am not as excited as I could be.

Untold Legends showed up from GameFly today, and for me this was my first underwhelming experience with the PS3. ...and I'm easy to please (I love Resistance), if that tells you anything.

Reading that (plus some of the reviews) is making me reconsider getting Untold Legends. :(

Felgar

11-21-06, 11:00 AM

Since the 360 was a big jump ahead of what was currently out there, I think I was more impressed. Since the PS3 isn't immediately leapfrogging the current competition to me, I guess I am not as excited as I could be.
I think that can be said for most people who are basing the majority of their opinion on the games themselves. At this point I don't think there's any question that the 360 games outperform these PS3 launch titles. But even without a 360 I'm in the same boat; before Oblivion for PC came along I'd have been very impressed by COD3 or Resistance. As it is now, they are just ok visually.

The Playstation has a huge advantage to my PC in SQ though, and once I finish getting my room set up, that will add a new dimension for sure. It'll be a treat to play Oblivion with discrete 7.1 surround, good draw distance, and (I hope) no frame-rate issues during those big battles.

Still, the HDD upgrades, Linux and Blu-Ray capabilities all make the system invaluable for me regardless of the games, so I'm quite happy. Just gotta find time to get Linux up and running...

DaverJ

11-21-06, 11:18 AM

Just gotta find time to get Linux up and running...

I'm curious about this feature. What does the Linux OS feature do for us? :confused:

RAVEN56706

11-21-06, 11:38 AM

smiledr

11-21-06, 11:57 AM

"(Most of the strengths of the 360 are due to it being out for a whole year. At launch the 360 was far more limited than it is now. Whatever is lacking in the PS3 now could be added by Sony if people want it enough. All I know is, when I turn on my 360 all I do with it is play games. I've had my PS3 since Friday and have spent a lot of time doing other stuff. I was bored with my 360 soon after turning it on. It's a superb game machine, but I like be able to do the stuff I can do on my PS3. If somehow the games never come through for PS3, then it will have been a waste of money. But for now, I really like it a lot(which seems to offend some 360 fans)."

To me that's the sad thing. Sony had a year to make sure things were going to be better than the xbox 360 and when they did release it, and like some of you I was under-impressed as well. Forget all the talk that the Xbox 360 has been out 1 yr earlier and because all these updates the xbox is what it is today. Right now xbox is 6 months ahead and they are going to continue their updates. Sony is still 6 months away. By the time sony gets to what xbox is today, xbox will probably be 6 months ahead. I have both systems "Today" and I'm comparing both today. For me, Xbox is better online, chatting, and downloading hd content. Graphics wise, GOW is as good as any Sony game I've seen. I did buy the HD-DVD add on and absolutely love it. Comparing Ricky Bobby with King Kong is, well there is no comparison. KK crushes Ricky's car. I bought both to primarily play games and watch HD movies. I gave sony a chance because I wanted to see what blu-ray was all about, but don't think I'm going to continue. Maybe 1 yr we'll see where things are at. It's funny that Sony's motto is "Play Beyond" and "Beyond Hi-Definition". How about get it to hi-definition first? Then we'll worry about going beyond!

JulesH

11-21-06, 12:06 PM

I don't have a PS3, I've been reading this thread for everyone's impressions out of curiosity. I really wanted a PS3, but I did not want to wait to get it and I can't afford both systems. The most important thing here is that the 360 has been out for a year longer than the PS3. This should logically mean two very important things:

First, the 360 should have more games, and likely slightly better games since programmers have had an entire year to program on it. This is of course true.

Secondly, the PS3 should do many things better than the 360, and also provide lots of useful features that the 360 does not have. This includes eventually having better graphics and better quality games because, again, they've had an extra year to work on the system itself. We all now how our new computer is out of date within a year. Plus sony has had a lot of time to look at the 360, to see what it does well, and to think about what it can do better, or what new features it should have so they can put them in the PS3.

I'm really glad I got my 360. I seriously thought that it would be inferior to the PS3 when it came out. But I didn't think it would take a whole extra year to come out. It just seems to me now that the PS3 is a year behind the 360 and I think this will really hurt sony in the long run.

I'm just dissapointed that sony didn't capitalize on the time they have had to develop the PS3. I just hope that time will tell and we will see some clear advantages that the PS3 has over the 360.

I really would rather have a Wii than a PS3 right now. I don't think there is any need to have both a 360 and a PS3, except for a few exclusive games, but who knows what will be exclusive in this day and age.

StreetPreacher

11-21-06, 12:20 PM

Secondly, the PS3 should do many things better than the 360, and also provide lots of useful features that the 360 does not have. This includes eventually having better graphics and better quality games because, again, they've had an extra year to work on the system itself.

The trouble is that the main system specs/hardware capabilities were carved in stone a long time ago, so there's really no way that Sony could have used the extra time to improve the console itself. What Sony did have time to change is the software which could provide all the useful features that the 360 doesn't have, but it seems that it's the software that's been receiving the most complaints...

smiledr

11-21-06, 12:47 PM

Felgar

11-21-06, 12:54 PM

I'm curious about this feature. What does the Linux OS feature do for us? :confused:
For me, provides me with a stable and functional HTPC. The main purpose I'll use it for is to watch downloaded TV content - it will be great to keep my gaming PC free of the all the installations that doing this requires. It'll also serve duty as a casual web browser and possibly instant-messenger and email monitor. Again, all of this stuff I now have on my gaming PC connected to my Home Theatre and it bogs the PC down.

Just think of Linux as a different version of Windows. If you can see a reason to have Windows running on your Playstation (like, for a really good web browser) then you'll want to install Linux.

firefighter81

11-21-06, 01:52 PM

Having both the 360 and a PS3, my best description of how I feel about the PS3 would be "underwhelmed". The two things that impressed me are HDMI and how quiet it is. Other than that I think most of it feels unfinished and rushed, which makes no sense since the launch was postponed 8 months. The only launch games that interested me were Resistance and Untold Legends. Untold Legends didn't come in at my Gamestop yet, so I only have Resistance. It's fun, but graphically it's closer to the 360 version of COD2 than to Gears of War. PS3 online seems disconnected and cobbled together when I weigh it against Xbox Live. I agree with the NYT article that the PS Store seems like a slow webpage.

I am 100% sure it will get better, and I don't regret getting one, but my first hours with it weren't too exciting. If I hadn't spent a year with the 360, I might be more impressed, but for now, I'll play through Resistance and wait for more games and some interface updates.

Think about what you are saying here. Gears Of War is an outstanding game, but the developers have also become very familiar with the 360 hardware, it's a second gen title. Resistance is going to look like COD2, that's what most people are having problems with, they are both launch titles, we never get stellar games at the launch of any system.

Also, XBL has had a few years to grow into the excellent interface it is now. Just give Sony some development time, they are playing catch-up right now and sucks for us early-adopters, but it will get better.

Just for reference, I'm also a 360 and PS3 owner, I camped out for both of them.

mrlittlejeans

11-21-06, 02:30 PM

Haven't the developers had just as long to work on games for the PS3 as the 360? I thought the dev kits went out at about the same time.

I'm agnostic in the debate and didn't camp out for the PS3 b/c I have too many xbox games I haven't had the chance to play yet.

To woodface - most of the faults you listed with the 360 aren't actually true. The only valid one is being able to swap out the hard drive. The rest of the stuff the 360 actually does.

I'm not into this melding of pc and console. If I want to check email on my tv or surf the web, I'll buy a cheap pc and do it with that.

speng9

11-21-06, 02:46 PM

I'm very pleased with my PS3.

Other than the initial HDMI issue (kept slipping out of input), it's been good.

System:

-I like the high gloss black look.
-It's very quiet and doesn't overheat. I left it on for days.

Features
-Photo Album is pretty slick. I like the choices for slideshow.

Blu-ray
-Good playback so far. I've watched X-Men III and MI-III and still have Taladega to watch.

Games-
Motorstorm - I can't get enough of this title, and my kids enjoy it too.
Resistance - A very good game, fun and has a variety of weapons, great story and some intense actions at times. The graphics is good enough for a first gen title and everything is done nicely. Multiplayer is a BLAST!! So many weapons and playstyles,just wish more people were online in ranked games.
F1 - I played this game and it's fun for the track I tried. I'll probably wait for GT5 though as I'm not that much into racing.

Web Browser
-Pretty cool to have. The prediction text system is nice.
-I can browse most websites but it needs a zoom button so I can see text on forum sites (10 ft away from 60inch).
- I hope they have a dedicated browser team to update and get compliant with most websites and install all plugins (flash, quicktime, acrobat reader, etc)

See wish list thread here for more requests.

Overall: I'm happy with the system, if you aren't going to be watching Blu-Ray movies now, and not interested in Resistance or Ridge Racer, you can wait for some more killer apps.
I like being able to pop on the browser and read the news without going to the office (or go on my laptop).

Speng.

Slacker George

11-21-06, 06:13 PM

i have both ps3 and xbox 360. Here are my views:

PS3
Pros: Quiet, Movie Trailers, Change the hard drive

The sound from systems never bothered me and i always just paid attention to the game but this is ultra quiet.

I always loved watching movie trailers and these are more updated and alot better.

Changing the hard drive is always a plus and changing it to any hard drive is a bigger plus

Cons: Blu Ray, Not Innovative, OS sucks, Online sucks.

Ok it appears to me that the format war has won on my eyes.....HD DVD has won. Blu Ray movies has more grain then Directv HD Lite.... i see nothing nice about this...X-men 3 looked ok but i was expecting wow.... MI3 looked better on HD-DVD then Blu Ray(and i have both but about to only have one)

There is no innovation here. As i said time and time again, Whoever comes first is the winner.... Xbox in a way set the standard and had a year head start....PS3 is playing catchup and i feel cant catch up.... People questioned the hd-dvd drive and it turned out to be a success.

OS : I cant play music while playing madden.... big negative.... Just isnt user friendly.

Online: Sorry but free online sucks.... this is horrific. Why cant i use the same name all around.. negative. Happy to pay $50 for online that is fun and enjoyable.

I will still keep both and give ps3 time to make some improvements but i still think this was rushed and it didnt meet to my expectations... Xbox will get my attention from now until the improvements arrive.

Now back to Gears of War
I like these comparisons, thanks. Couple of points I'll make though:

There really are no built-in PQ advantages for Blu-ray or HD-DVD, either one can give you a great picture. Everyone seems to have their own tastes: MI3 Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/missionimpossibleiii.html)
So, how do the Blu-ray and HD DVD stack up? Perhaps it is the mega-bitrate afforded both transfers -- and I know I might get taken to task by some in the HD DVD camp for even suggesting such a thing -- but this is one comparison that makes a pretty good case for MPEG-2. It seems clear that, with enough bits behind it, the codec isn't ready to be put out to pasture just yet (VC-1 was developed and optimized with low bitrate applications in mind, so is less space-hungry). Compression artifacts, posterization and macroblocking are just not a problem on either version. Black, color reproduction and overall detail are consistently impressive regardless of codec, and of all the dual-format releases I've yet seen, 'M:I III' is probably the best proof that Blu-ray is clearly able to deliver absolutely first-rate video quality when at its best.

I don't see how you can knock the PS3 for innovation either. If anything it might turn out to be too innovative on the hardware side.

What does the 360 add from the previous generation:
Improved graphics
Wireless controller

What does the PS3 add from the previous generation:
Improved graphics
Wireless controller
HDMI
Blu-Ray drive
Built-in Wifi
Built-in SD/CF/memory Stick reader
Ability to install and run another OS
Bluetooth support
Web Browser
Slot loading design

I certainly won't argue the 360 online experience is a lot more polished right now but I don't see any major issues with Playstation online. When you sign up for the PS network you get one and only one online ID. I use it play Resistance with no problems at all, free and easy. I haven't played any other launch games online, maybe that's what you mean.

mrrjm

11-21-06, 11:34 PM

zzoli

11-22-06, 12:49 AM

First I will say it appears to be a great gaming console. And that is it.

It doesn't do any dvd upconversion at all. It won't even play widescreen movies in full widescreen. SACD--They won't play over optical. Only HDMI. My Meridian doesn't have HDMI in so I'm out of luck. I am very disappointed. As far as the user interface...I think the Xbox 360 is much better. This PS3 is very very complicated. Knowing what I know now I would have never bought this thing. If one buys for a gaming console only then great. Even the including Blue-disc was just ok. The picture is too dark. My Samsung does a much better job in Blue-ray. And the Samsung does a fantastic job on DVD's.

RJM
Not arguing with your subjective observations let me just ask this:

Are you aware the fact that no consumer device on this earth transfers sacd over toslink optical?

This is because of bandwith limitations and copy protection reasons.

If you have a Meridian gear and you are an sacd collector you should have known this prior you put that disc into the ps3.

ay221

11-22-06, 12:54 AM

Busted.

Andrew P

11-22-06, 01:32 AM

I prefer my 360 right now for the following reasons:

1. Better choice of games
2. Better graphics (both #1 and #2 are expected as they have a year head start)
3. Prefer the controller of the 360 to the Sixaxis
4. Xbox live is simply the best online service available

The only reason the Sony appealed to me is for the BD player. I finally got rid of my Samsung and this was the cheapest alternative. I expect the PS3 to come October 2007 but until then if you own a 360 there is no need for the PS3 as most of the launch titles are available.

DaverJ

11-22-06, 08:16 AM

It won't even play widescreen movies in full widescreen.

Haven't messed much with DVD playback, but what little I did was widescreen. Not sure what this comments means.... :confused:

mmukalian

11-22-06, 10:45 AM

Just bought the Cars DVD last night, put it in the PS3...wow, what a f'n amazing picture. It just looked GREAT.

ReggieGotShot

11-22-06, 11:16 AM

Got my PS3 on the 17th......The Motorstorm demo is so amazing...the tilt controls work really well with it(The Wife Loves it...+100 Points).....

Resistance is very addicting(The Wife Does not Love That...-100 Points) and the weapons in the game are so rad....I love that game...

Blast Factor is a very short demo but is pretty fun game that uses the sixaxis (The Wife Loves it...+200 Points)..going to have to buy it!....

Cash Guns Chaos is a pretty neat fast pace shoot everything in your way game set to punk rawk.

BluRay playback works really well and looks amazing! Viewing pictures is really cool too(The Wife Loves it...+300 Points).

Hooked up a USB Hdd to the box and it worked right away with pictures and music. Setup for me was a breeze...dont know why some people have a hard time with it....Overall i think the PS3 is well worth the money! ;)

BobDobalina

11-22-06, 11:31 AM

So, for you guys with 720p sets, any comments on Blu-ray playback? I just accidentally posted a thread in the wrong forum about it, but I'm seriously disappointed. The 1080i content looks awful.

mmukalian

11-22-06, 11:35 AM

So, for you guys with 720p sets, any comments on Blu-ray playback? I just accidentally posted a thread in the wrong forum about it, but I'm seriously disappointed. The 1080i content looks awful.

Put in the Talledega Nights BR disc last night...I've a Hitachi 60VS810A (native 720p, supports 1080i) and to me, it looked fantastic. No complaints here.

BobDobalina

11-22-06, 11:48 AM

Are you using HDMI? The picture image looked awful to me compared to the 1080i images I'm used to via HD cable, worse than a DVD.

mmukalian

11-22-06, 11:49 AM

HDMI from PS3 to my VS810. Looked great.

BobDobalina

11-22-06, 11:57 AM

Well, I'm obviously not the only one seeing this problem:

http://loot-ninja.com/2006/11/19/ps3-hd-scaling-issues-other-annoyances/

RommelB

11-22-06, 12:55 PM

I'm pretty happy with the ps3.

BD - It's good. Not as good as I had expected maybe because I expected too much. It is the better than any hd-dvd I've seen but not that much greater

Media - I'm loving the memory card readers. It displays my photos and videos like it was upconverted or something. It's just crazy clear

WWW - Browsing the internet with the ps3 is ok. It does not compared to a regular pc tho. I have the R60XBR2 and the text is a little too small. Browsing is also a little slow. I always get this embedded pop up notice everytime i click on a video from you tube and other sites. It;s pretty annoying.

Games - I only have COD3. Graphics is pretty good. Games with extreme features and graphics can take some time before they are available.

I have not had any problems connecting online with a wireless router (linksys wireless-b/g 802.11) and it's pretty fast.

Even tho I believe this machine is well worth more than $600. I'm thinkng about selling mine and buying one later on when more games and bd titles are available.

firefighter81

11-22-06, 12:57 PM

mboojigga

11-22-06, 01:29 PM

Reading through that post and the responses on that site made my head hurt. So many people are sheep and just blindly hate and follow what the crowd says.

Guess what? I bought a PS3 and 360 both on launch day, and they both worked perfectly fine. This was the same situation with the MAJORITY of people out there.

People always complain much louder than they praise. Most people won't go onto forums proclaiming how great their systems are working. But the few who do have problems will complain and the "haters" will latch onto every little complaint, and then blow each one completely out of proportion.

So is this your way of making yourself feel good about your purchase because I had notice the comments are coming from the owners of the PS3. So I don't get what you are saying people are leaching on and hating on the PS3. That isn't the case. If your head hurts from all the comments and it is making you feel like you maybe justification on your purchase then simply ignore this thread. I see alot of comparision to the 360 becasue duh it is competition it is features everyone expected. I am sorry but I have been asking this and wonder where is the beyond at with the PS3 and BR because I have yet to hear or see it. All the talk up until BR and all the talk up until the PS3 when it lands it will destroy the competition. Now all the talk is it is a year behind that isn't fair to compare blah blah blah. I call BS to alot of this especially all the ones on this forum spouting about the death of DVD, MS, Xbox, free online will be better(ain't shyt free never better just look at this online as a hand me down because that is what it is at this point until it gets fixed.)

Still waiting on the beyond because beyond didn't mean we release on the 17th and oh yeah wait a year for 2nd generation to leap out. All the ooahs and aahhs with the videos and pics. Now mostly it is WTF is this.

Is the same thing going to be said when the 3rd generation 360 games come out vs 2nd generation PS3 games. Strange that the PS2 launched before the 360 but the 360 games were always better visually then the PS2 games and it came out after and continue to have the better visual version.

I know I know the PS2 was harder to program for and so is the PS3 :rolleyes:..... okay!

briankmonkey

11-22-06, 01:38 PM

TuSeiSkeefoso

11-22-06, 02:35 PM

I think what most people are forgetting is that last year when the 360 debuted, in my opinion, they had the WORST launch lineup ever seen. There was absolutely NOTHING there that warranted you getting a 360 over keeping your PS2/XBOX. Only PGR and COD3 (released a month earlier on PC) were next gen; the rest were higher res ports of XBOX games. King Kong, T. Hawks: American Wasteland, GUN, etc. So, at launch, compared to where 360 was at launch, you can look at all PS3 titles and say, yes these are what next gen is about. I think this time next year, we'll see the PS3 take over with regards to must have titles and exclusives which you just won't see on XBOX. I still think that paying to play your game online, for whatever reason, is a crock of you know what. I don't care how good it is. Sony can improve that aspect with time. I also chose PS3 because of price and games. In my case, purchasing an XBOX 360 would cost me more in the long run, and I wouldn't have titles coming up like, DMC, MGS, Final Fantasy, Heavenly Sword, man I could go on and on. Titles that are "exclusive" to XBOX 360, I'll be able to play on my PC anyways, (Alan Wake, Bioshock, Mass Effect). With the exception of Gears of War and Halo, I don't think I'm missing very much. Just my opinion.

briankmonkey

11-22-06, 02:40 PM

kiomon

11-22-06, 03:40 PM

Well I have bene playing my PS3 since yesterday (managed to walk in and buy one at EB!). i have a 360, and hopefully a Wii coming on Friday. I am pretty disappointed in the PS3. I think its bad to be coming off of Gears of War, and playing PGR3 with the new MS Wheel. But still I was hoping for more. I have Resistance and the graphics are alright, but nothing jaw dropping. Looks like a really clean PC game. The controller sucks without rumble. People can say all they want about the six axis stuff, but there is something missing when you shoot or get shot and dont feel anything. Its like the controller is dead. I didnt expect to miss rumble that much.

The online experience is a JOKE. I am talking about the network. The PS Store and online community. Yes you can play resistance, but no one talks because of no head sets. The Store is SLOW it takes hours to download the demos and it cant do it in the background. SO you are stuck just waiting. And its a Webpage! If you've been playing 360, the online experience is interleaved into the dahboard. Ads update, you can get to it from various places. I was expecting Sony to trump MS with this, but I now see why they disabled it on the review units till launch.

Now with all that said am I going to take it back or sell it. No, I'll keep it because I am a dork and its sexy. I'll use it as a BluRay player to go with my Tosh HDDVD player and watch movies till the system catches up. I'll put linux on it for the geek factor too.

DON'T pay above MSRP for this one, no reason to. And for the record i am not a MS fanboy either. But if I had one system to by to play NOW, it would be the Xbox360. And I'd get a PS3 when some killer apps come out next year.

firefighter81

11-22-06, 03:51 PM

Axiom

11-22-06, 04:01 PM

I think what most people are forgetting is that last year when the 360 debuted, in my opinion, they had the WORST launch lineup ever seen.

I'd definately disagree with that. I bought 9 of the 360 launch titles, and have only managed to find 2 PS3 launch games I was even interested in. The PS3s game selection will get better, but so will the 360s, and the Wiis. Good thing I will have all 3, once I can find a Wii.

Plus most shoppers will be comparing what the systems can currently do, not comparing launches anyway.

I'd also say that if someone is waiting for MGS or Final Fantasy, I'd recommend waiting on getting the PS3 until they come out. Other than Resistance, there isn't much really worth playing, IMO.

kiomon

11-22-06, 04:05 PM

I am definitely not 100% behind the MS wheel but I got it cheap <$100 And its fun, BUT I do want that G25. But its not 360 compatible right? Hmmm maybe PS3 + GT5....

metrognomerical

11-22-06, 07:38 PM

The eagle has landed. 20 gb in my possesion now. I have only had the chance to play resistance a little and some madden. Looks freaking great to me. And I dont even have HDTV. I played my playstation2 all the way up to last night and I feel quite satisfied with that one. If this bad boy gets me even half the enjoyment of PS2 ill be satisfied. So far everything is peachy. ill post a little later with some more detail on how things go.

Newport Peter

11-22-06, 08:26 PM

Thats no excuse for lackluster quality... this is supposed to be the introduction of what "blurryray" can do to the masses....

way to sony!

Still love my ps3 though .... :)

cgengler

11-22-06, 08:50 PM

mboojigga

11-23-06, 12:56 AM

No offense but launch Xbox games weren't all better than PS2 games. Not even close. There was the exception of Halo for first person shooters of course. Racers, nope.

Keep in mind that gap between the PS2 and Xbox/cube was 2 times the time gap of that between the PS3/Wii and xbox360 as well.

Thats the point only a few of you want to mention about the Xbox launch or PS3 launch which now it does not matter. Non of the prior launches matter up to this point. The fact is all the hype has not lived up yet and it isn't just this forum that is saying that. I mean they had plenty of time after making the statement about they are bringing something new for online besides it being free. I mean they did a head hunt of prior xbox live members to get this service rolling. 8 months after delaying in spring to 17 Nov this is what they have to show at this point is a new system that before you can even play a game requires you to install an update and then setup the controller.

The PS3 is going to be a great system at some point. Hence why I wanted to wait because honestly it is just here to be here vs bringing the beyond.

Slacker George

11-23-06, 01:46 AM

mboojigga

11-23-06, 01:57 AM

Eh, nobody believes the hype anyway. It's all just marketing jibber jabber. I got everything I expected and hoped for: BR movies look fantastic and Resistance is a hell of a lot of fun. The only disappointment is most of the launch games I was interested in got delayed.

I'm not sure where all this ultra-negativity about online is coming from lately. It was easy to set up, Resistance plays flawlessly online (for free), the online store was up and running at launch, and web browsing works decently. There's plenty of improvements to make but it's all there.

But the answer to all the negativity came when the realization from that blue screen at E3 showed you all that you were getting for online. WTF no headphones to talk and this is a up to 40 player game for multi. The thing is this another BR player at this point vs a game system until the end of 07 when the PS3 is officially released with the exclusive games that everyone wants for the system like myself. If I was ready to buy the PS3 right now then the only benefit I am going to get is the BR player vs what I initially wanted it for and that is a game system that won't get any games purchased for it because I am getting those same games on the 360 with a proper online service. None of this should have been a wait til updates at a later time except if it is someone like myself waiting to purchase it when the exclusives come out. It should have been ready from the get go. The biggest hype that shouldn't even be hype is you can install Linux.

The exclusives are the most interesting games for it and again that is not until the end next year. But if they keep losing exclusives then the question again is what is the point of the PS3 after having the 360 besides the BR?

Garman

11-23-06, 03:02 AM

Love it when this forum is helpful, sometimes there is a lot of hot wind blowing in the negative wind. I am sure there will be some issues with the PS3 as there was with the Xbox 360. The Xbox had issues also playing older games etc...

Axiom: Game tastes are highly "Opinonated" of course there are plenty of games that are decent on the PS3 but most likely people have some of them already on another system. Right now Sony needs to work on a couple of things, make the player upscale and make it so you can set the resolution would be nice. Right now I am running the Demo Blu-Ray that is in 1080P, but it plays it only in 1080i, I would like to set this to 720p but it doesn't work so far. This unit does a lot more on launch then the Xbox 360.

Slacker George

11-23-06, 04:38 AM

But the answer to all the negativity came when the realization from that blue screen at E3 showed you all that you were getting for online. WTF no headphones to talk and this is a up to 40 player game for multi. The thing is this another BR player at this point vs a game system until the end of 07 when the PS3 is officially released with the exclusive games that everyone wants for the system like myself. If I was ready to buy the PS3 right now then the only benefit I am going to get is the BR player vs what I initially wanted it for and that is a game system that won't get any games purchased for it because I am getting those same games on the 360 with a proper online service. None of this should have been a wait til updates at a later time except if it is someone like myself waiting to purchase it when the exclusives come out. It should have been ready from the get go. The biggest hype that shouldn't even be hype is you can install Linux.

The exclusives are the most interesting games for it and again that is not until the end next year. But if they keep losing exclusives then the question again is what is the point of the PS3 after having the 360 besides the BR?I know where you're coming from. If you're not interested in blu-ray or any of the launch games then there's certainly not much point in getting a PS3 right now. Sounds like a smart move.

I don't follow your first couple of sentences though. Resistance has voice comms. Good quality too apparently. IGN: The Chimera's Superior Communication (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/747/747066p1.html)

Doctor Krypton

11-23-06, 10:05 AM

What does the 360 add from the previous generation:
Improved graphics
Wireless controller

What does the PS3 add from the previous generation:
Improved graphics
Wireless controller
HDMI
Blu-Ray drive
Built-in Wifi
Built-in SD/CF/memory Stick reader
Ability to install and run another OS
Bluetooth support
Web Browser
Slot loading design

that's a very incomplete 360 list.
The 360 STARTED the wave of innovation with the Xbox and expanded on it.
*Interchangeable/removeable HDD (PS3 obviously has this too)
*3 core CPU (Cell for the PS3)
*Interchangeable/customizable faceplates
*HDDVD capable through Add on
*Siginifcant online expansion through marketplace
*VGA support ( The Dreamcast had this too but with a special VGA box)
*Mandatory 720p support for games
*Personalized game experience with tags that allow better management of game saves and other content.(Does the PS3 have ANYTHING like this??)
*Achievement reward system
*Downloadable media such as video games, Tv, movies. & music
*Media center/PC streaming connectivity from media center(HUGE omission from your list!!)
*HD component cables OUT OF THE BOX

Finally, I don't see slot loading as a great feature personally as you have lised. You cannot play 3 inch DVD's with a slot loader.

Slacker George

11-23-06, 10:18 AM

that's a very incomplete 360 list.
The 360 STARTED the wave of innovation with the Xbox and expanded on it.
*Interchangeable/removeable HDD (PS3 obviously has this too)
*3 core CPU (Cell for the PS3)
*Interchangeable/customizable faceplates
*HDDVD capable through Add on
*Siginifcant online expansion through marketplace
*VGA support ( The Dreamcast had this too but with a special VGA box)
*Mandatory 720p support for games
*Personalized game experience with tags that allow better management of game saves and other content.(Does the PS3 have ANYTHING like this??)
*Achievement reward system
*Downloadable media such as video games, Tv, movies. & music
*Media center/PC streaming connectivity from media center(HUGE omission from your list!!)
*HD component cables OUT OF THE BOX

Finally, I don't see slot loading as a great feature personally as you have lised. You cannot play 3 inch DVD's with a slot loader.Thanks for the info. Some of those were original xbox features though, no?

*Personalized game experience with tags that allow better management of game saves and other content.(Does the PS3 have ANYTHING like this??)Yep. Everyone gets a unique ID when they sign up for the Playstation network. For game saves and such each user or sub-user on a PS3 has their own seperate files.

Finally, I don't see slot loading as a great feature personally as you have lised. You cannot play 3 inch DVD's with a slot loader.Yeah, it'll play 3" DVDs fine. Just like the Wii.

firefighter81

11-23-06, 11:56 AM

The exclusives are the most interesting games for it and again that is not until the end next year. But if they keep losing exclusives then the question again is what is the point of the PS3 after having the 360 besides the BR?

Last I checked Formula 1 Championship Edition isn't coming to 360, and it's out in December, that right there makes it worth it to me. :cool:

mboojigga

11-23-06, 01:39 PM

Last I checked Formula 1 Championship Edition isn't coming to 360, and it's out in December, that right there makes it worth it to me. :cool:

Okay that is for you but no one is really screaming about it either and if it is a good game cool it is a good game but not enough me my personally to drop money for this one game. Plus I am not missing out on anything I wait for the games I am interested in that won't be out until the end of 07 and how difficult will it be for me to try out R-FOM and F1 at a price of $30 bucks or I rent them.

metrognomerical

11-23-06, 07:29 PM

Okay. First 24 hours with my ps3, and so far i am really amped on it. I never thought about all the other things they would make it do but I am really impressed with its plug and play abilities. I got the 20gb, so it has no flashcard drive etc. but i already have a compact flash usb reader. Hooked it up and within seconds was viewing pics on screen. I also have about 40 GB of music on an external HD that i previously ran with my Powerbook G4. Again maybe 30-60 seconds load time and I could access all of my music easily. And btw it sounds awesome. I almost never got any use out of the songs on this HD cuz it took so long to load everything on itunes on my laptop, but the ps3 just plugged it up and wham! and running in 5:1 this **** sounds almost better than on CD. I think the card reader was a SanDisc and the HD is an ACOM Data. I also got the sony ps2 memorycard converter and copied my ps2 saved games onto the hd. On to the games.

Resistance looks hot. game plays nice and smooth. This game looks great and if things get better from here then should be some wow **** by next year. Multiplayer online play is fun and WAY smoother than the ps2 online experience. I am running direct to my cable via ethernet.

Madden 07 is different to me cuz i hadn't played it on any system yet so the new play selection screen throws me off still. Also the text is very small. Other than that I like what I see, and if this is anything like madden 01 compared to what it became again I think this will be a wow next year or soon after.

Overall I haven't had the bugs or anything that some have reported. But Eliminate HDTV problems from that equation cuz I dont have one. The Demos downloaded at a decent speed, I mean hell the NBA demo is like 883MB. I am already down to 13 GB left and I've only downloaded 3 demos. I am definately considering installing a bigger HD, I am just looking for the right deal. Also want to wait for more info from people who've already done it after a couple months of use. This thing does blow pretty hot air, but it seems okay as long as its not penned up where ever it is. I think those demo ones have been overheating at a lot of places cuz the one you see in the window is a decoy. The real one is locked inside. I watched an EB guy having to restart the one there on launch day.

The Web browser is a cool feature. I have already accessed YouTube, and other sites to watch videos. I can't wait for some updates to make the browser function better and able to run Quicktime. Also I need to get a damn keyboard cuz those typing functions suck. Although I haven't had it freeze up yet while entering text like some have said.

First Impression, this thing is great. Mad potential is just over the horizon. All the problems reported so far seem fixable through patches. I am excited for whats to come.
good luck to all those still searching for one...

Dahlsim

11-24-06, 12:34 AM

Ability to install and run another OS

That's cool, and very computerish, as promise by Sony.

The 360 has to be credited for me with the 1st modern operating system on a console.

It's the 1st operating system on a console where you could smoothly call it up during a game (using the 360 button which PS3 smartly copied) and even multi-task various operations like chatting, multiple downloads and more.

I'm glad really that Sony took some of the best of what 360 brought and carried into the PS3 which can be seen already in the nice implementation of the PS button and the Playstation 3 store. The 1st few live arcade type downloadable games on PS network are fun too, and welcome additions.

WhoMe14

11-24-06, 07:13 PM

FF2Skip

11-24-06, 10:31 PM

I'm pretty happy with the ps3.

BD - It's good. Not as good as I had expected maybe because I expected too much. It is the better than any hd-dvd I've seen but not that much greater
I respecfully, but completely, disagree. Sony was s-t-u-p-i-d for introducing its BD with Talladega Nights. I'm guessing they chose that movie because no one would buy it. Its PQ was astonishingly bad.

I picked up my PS3 on launch day. I did not wait in line- I happened upon getting one pre-ordered. I have always favored Play Stations. I do not own an Xbox. I have no desire to game online with others. I prefer driving and sports games. I had enough of the military games when I was in the Marine Corps. I'm by no means a computer geek, thereby will not be using all the PS3's capabilities. I do not own an iPod.

So why did I buy the Sony offering? I've owned an HDTV since about 2001(Pio 53" 1080i). I suffered through so many boring-a$$ programming back in the day, because that was the only HD programming there was. I've had my Pio Elite 50" plasma for over a year now. I purchased the Toshiba HD-A1 in April. I've never even updated that thing with the firmware offered. Once you've enjoyed HD movies or programming, you always want more. It truly is a drug. I wanted more and knew in the future better BD movies would finally come out(most are currently crap or available on HD-DVD). Why would I pay $1k for a BD player-only, when a $600 gaming console/BD player is available?

Another reason is that I have an original PS2... you know, the one with the overheating problems. It's still going strong, but it was time to retire it from HT use(now only serves in my S2000 :) ). All this said, I like the gaming portion, but hope to hell that the BD portion is only suffering from a terrible title, much like Perfect Storm on HD-DVD. Neither of these titles can hold a candle to a SD copy of Armageddon on my A1. To hear someone say that the BD player in the PS3 beats HD-DVD is absurd. For reference, I've been plugged into a 50" Pio Elite plasma for over a year now. It's only 1080i. :rolleyes: And no, that's not half of true HD.

Synopsis: 1) BD through the PS3 does not look better than HD-DVD. 2) My son(13) is happy with his early(and only!) Christmas gift, and that's the important thing. :)

DigVid

11-25-06, 09:21 AM

One other thing for those of you waiting for the hot future game titles to take full advantage of the PS3's cell processor. It has been rumoured that those games may well cost nearly $100 each.

If that is the case, then I believe there is a point where the benefits of the PS3 to those of competing systems will be lost in the shear cost of supplying software for it. It is quite difficult (expensive) to program for the PS3.

Let's hope, for the sake of PS3 owners everywhere, these rumours are not true...

WhoMe14

11-25-06, 09:36 AM

Irunnoft

11-25-06, 10:44 AM

Last I checked Formula 1 Championship Edition isn't coming to 360, and it's out in December, that right there makes it worth it to me. :cool:

Yeah, and sadly enough, that game sucks on toast without the rumble feature in the controller. I downloaded the demo and it was just awful to play without that force feedback. I deleted it after playing through it three times. The graphics were great. There was no tearing or any kind of glitch in the gameplay. The only thing that could be done was provide distinct sound effects for when you slammed into the wall or went off the track. This was done as a means of compensating for the lack of rumble. This feature was also sadly missing from Motorstorm, but the sheer craziness of the melee is the only thing that may save that game for me. Again, it would be a 100% better game w/ rumble.

Irunnoft

11-25-06, 10:53 AM

Just got my PS3. Many have already gone on for paragraphs about what they think, so I wont say much. I will say this...I waited for this machine to get into HD gaming, and I am blown away. Resistance is a beautifully polished first gen title. The menu's and online functionailty are sweet. And when I put in that first blu-ray movie what I saw was jaw dropping. This is it...the machine thatl introduce the masses to what the next generation in video entertainment is all about.

Sorry, but I find this laughable! I just bought a Sony KDL 40V2500 last night and hooked up the 360 and PS3 to it. From my impressions thus far, and I'm not trolling or fanboying, I'm just giving my opinion (it's not like I've got stock in either company!) I'm more impressed with the HD-DVD movies than the Blu Ray movies I've seen. X-MEN looks downright grainy in some places. I've not had any issues with any of the HD-DVD's, whereas it's been commonly reported on this forum that certain of the Blu Ray DVDs are better than others with regards to PQ.

With regards to the quote about that being the machine to introduce next gen. to the masses, I can tell you that no game I've played yet on this HD tv has rivaled GOW. Period! Sure, Resistance looks and sounds great and the Sony bams it out at 720p - however, GOW on Vivid setting coming in at 1080i . . . OMG! :eek: This game has set the industry standard for next gen gaming in both the graphics and sound dept. Gears of War is going to be a hard title to beat and I really believe it is going to give Halo 3 probably the most legitimate run for its money!

I've had the PS3 since launch and I still wouldn't trade it, though. I do love it and it is growing more and more on me as I familiarize myself with the controls and navigating using the Sixaxis. I did download Blast Factor and it was a cool way to kind of wade into the motion sensing. This is one area that Sony's beat MS and that's with the motion detection in the controller. I'm also starting to favor the Sixaxis feel of the controller in my hand over the 360. The 360 controller feels awesome, but after playing so much with the Sixaxis, the 360 controller feels chunky in my hands.

Slacker George

11-25-06, 11:18 AM

Sorry, but I find this laughable! I just bought a Sony KDL 40V2500 last night and hooked up the 360 and PS3 to it. From my impressions thus far, and I'm not trolling or fanboying, I'm just giving my opinion (it's not like I've got stock in either company!) I'm more impressed with the HD-DVD movies than the Blu Ray movies I've seen. X-MEN looks downright grainy in some places. I've not had any issues with any of the HD-DVD's, whereas it's been commonly reported on this forum that certain of the Blu Ray DVDs are better than others with regards to PQ.

With regards to the quote about that being the machine to introduce next gen. to the masses, I can tell you that no game I've played yet on this HD tv has rivaled GOW. Period! Sure, Resistance looks and sounds great and the Sony bams it out at 720p - however, GOW on Vivid setting coming in at 1080i . . . OMG! :eek: This game has set the industry standard for next gen gaming in both the graphics and sound dept. Gears of War is going to be a hard title to beat and I really believe it is going to give Halo 3 probably the most legitimate run for its money!

I've had the PS3 since launch and I still wouldn't trade it, though. I do love it and it is growing more and more on me as I familiarize myself with the controls and navigating using the Sixaxis. I did download Blast Factor and it was a cool way to kind of wade into the motion sensing. This is one area that Sony's beat MS and that's with the motion detection in the controller. I'm also starting to favor the Sixaxis feel of the controller in my hand over the 360. The 360 controller feels awesome, but after playing so much with the Sixaxis, the 360 controller feels chunky in my hands.I don't think you're trolling, but I don't see why anytime someone posts about how excited they are with their PS3 a 360 owner has to come along and poop all over it. Are they really that insecure?

WhoMe14

11-25-06, 11:42 AM

Sorry, but I find this laughable!

With regards to the quote about that being the machine to introduce next gen. to the masses, I can tell you that no game I've played yet on this HD tv has rivaled GOW. Period! Sure, Resistance looks and sounds great and the Sony bams it out at 720p - however, GOW on Vivid setting coming in at 1080i . . . OMG! :eek: This game has set the industry standard for next gen gaming in both the graphics and sound dept. Gears of War is going to be a hard title to beat and I really believe it is going to give Halo 3 probably the most legitimate run for its money!

I dont think your trolling, you and everyone else is entitled to an opinion. However calling my comments laughable is hardly respecting my opinion. In response to what you said, Ill say that I at no time said anything about the 360 or how it compares to the PS3. And why is that you ask??...cause the thread is aptly titled Owners first impressions not lets compare my 360 to my PS3. And for the record I do not own a 360..Im part of that group that waited for the PS3 as thier next-gen console of choice. Bringing up GOW or Resistance in THAT arguement is far too small a sample of what overall these two machines have to offer. Infact since I dont own both I dont have an arguement on that topic. I would just ask people to respect my comments and leave the 360 vs PS3 thing on the threads didicated those discussions.

Slacker George

11-25-06, 11:45 AM

I just watched The Corpse Bride on BD last night and it was literally flawless. Gorgeous picture.

firefighter81

11-25-06, 12:08 PM

Yeah, and sadly enough, that game sucks on toast without the rumble feature in the controller. I downloaded the demo and it was just awful to play without that force feedback. I deleted it after playing through it three times. The graphics were great. There was no tearing or any kind of glitch in the gameplay. The only thing that could be done was provide distinct sound effects for when you slammed into the wall or went off the track. This was done as a means of compensating for the lack of rumble. This feature was also sadly missing from Motorstorm, but the sheer craziness of the melee is the only thing that may save that game for me. Again, it would be a 100% better game w/ rumble.

That's why anyone who is really interested in playing this game will own a force feedback steering wheel setup. I currently have the Logitech Driving Force Pro, and just upgraded to the Logitech G25. The game will support force feedback. I couldn't even imagine playing a racing game with a gamepad, how stupid is that?

FF2Skip

11-25-06, 01:30 PM

That's why anyone who is really interested in playing this game will own a force feedback steering wheel setup. I currently have the Logitech Driving Force Pro, and just upgraded to the Logitech G25. The game will support force feedback. I couldn't even imagine playing a racing game with a gamepad, how stupid is that?
I'm stupid then. :(

And the "FF2" stands for Fire Fighter Level II.

TwinTurboZX

11-25-06, 07:17 PM

I'm more impressed with the HD-DVD movies than the Blu Ray movies I've seen. X-MEN looks downright grainy in some places. I've not had any issues with any of the HD-DVD's, whereas it's been commonly reported on this forum that certain of the Blu Ray DVDs are better than others with regards to PQ.

What's your point? Both Blu-ray and HDDVD have good and bad transfers, and they are both able to produce stunning PQ. Just because you saw grain in a few places in X-MEN doesn't mean anything since that could have come from the source film. Maybe you should stop comparing many good HDDVD titles to one Blu-ray title and go watch some more of the good Blu-ray titles out there.

BTW I agree about the insecurity of xbox owners. I mean it's really obvious when they feel the need to constantly thread crap another console's official owners thread. It’s very sad indeed.

FF2Skip

11-25-06, 07:44 PM

What's your point? Both Blu-ray and HDDVD have good and bad transfers, and they are both able to produce stunning PQ. Just because you saw grain in a few places in X-MEN doesn't mean anything since that could have come from the source film. Maybe you should stop comparing many good HDDVD titles to one Blu-ray title and go watch some more of the good Blu-ray titles out there.

BTW I agree about the insecurity of xbox owners. I mean it's really obvious when they feel the need to constantly thread crap another console's official owners thread. It’s very sad indeed.
I have a PS3 and a Toshiba HD-A1. Considering I've had the A1 since April and the PS3 since the 17th, I only have one BD movie to compare to my experience with HD-DVD. It's Sony's fault for including a terrible title(Talladega Nights). I was so looking forward to getting Gone in 60 Seconds in BD, but while at BB today I let it sit there on their shelf because of my initial BD experience. So far, I have not come across(nor searched overly hard) a title in BD that has been proclaimed "thumbs up" visually that I care to see or that is not available in HD-DVD. I'm open to suggestions as I want to enjoy both worlds. :)

firefighter81

11-25-06, 08:35 PM

I'm stupid then. :(

And the "FF2" stands for Fire Fighter Level II.

Yeah, it's good to see a fellow fire fighter on here, stay safe out there. But still, I never felt that my controller vibrating in my hand added realism to any game really. I'm a huge racing game fan. Racing games make up most of my gaming library for PC, 360, PS2 and PS3. That's why I decided to invest the $100 to get the DFP and now the $300 to get the Logitech G25. I guess I can see where you are coming from, if you've never experienced a proper setup to play racing games on I feel sorry for you, if you are a true fan, you're missing out. :)

I'm unfamiliar with the HD-DVD library of titles, but for Blu-Ray, if you are looking for a reference title to show off the quality, Corpse Bride, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Tears of the Sun, etc. Check the software forum on this site, plenty of reviews.

blklacker

11-25-06, 09:37 PM

Got my ps3 north of seattle in lynnwood wa at BB @11:20am on blackfriday. They had 7-8 60gb and 5 20gb. I was 3rd in line, when they first started to break them out of the brown shipping boxes. No BB employees even knew about it until 5 min prior. They were selling ps3 like crack on the corner. BB was so quiet about it. When i walked out of BB with my ps3 people where looking at me with their jaws on their ground (heard people under their breath) ""wtf they he has a ps3"" (kids pointing at me wow ps3). Dude grabed my shoulder "dude they have ps3 how much you selling it for" I just shook them off as I watched mobs of people started making a B line to the appliance line. Of all the places they where selling the ps3 in the appliance line. Who would have thought?

I have to report, the ps3 is very very quiet when playing movies/games. It also included the ricky bobby which i was surprised to see. The movie was pretty funny my girlfriend liked it alot. Also the blueray player on ps3 is much much better than I ever expected the PQ it produces is higher than I expected. Looks nice on my xbr3. I think Once they get these updates in order this system is going to be a beast. Props on sony to allow downloading of demo's. Bravo

I have to agree with many the launch titles where kinda lacking, i expected a little more from some of the titles epecially the (ports). The nice thing to know is that this is all new technology. Give game developers a year and they will harnis the power. Its kinda nice to sample right from the soffa.

I cannot complain at all about the ps3 becuase I know the little nit picky things that I do have to say will be fixed in time with a simple up incoming patch. Im very happy.

I also got the Wii on launch. I have to admit when i first heard about wii i was like yeah right Nin will go belly up. But once i got the sticks in my hand it really changed my outlook on it. You cannot compare wii to 360 or ps3 it's a whole different experince. Wii is just so different in every way and im really diggin zelda and wii sports. Im excited what they will have coming out next.

Nin needs to do something about rechargeable batteryies for the wii remotes. I have gone thru 6 batteries in 1 week. This is not going to work. They need to come up with a better method right.

firefighter81

11-25-06, 09:57 PM

Nin needs to do something about rechargeable batteryies for the wii remotes. I have gone thru 6 batteries in 1 week. This is not going to work. They need to come up with a better method right.

Glad to hear you are happy with your PS3 and not letting the little issues get to you like so many other people are.

As far as batteries go, Energizer sells some very good rechargeables that are meant for electronics. I can't remember the name, I use them back home (visiting family now) and they would probably work great in the Wii controllers.

Doctor Krypton

11-26-06, 03:49 AM

Thanks for the info. Some of those were original xbox features though, no?

Yep. Everyone gets a unique ID when they sign up for the Playstation network. For game saves and such each user or sub-user on a PS3 has their own seperate files.

Yeah, it'll play 3" DVDs fine. Just like the Wii.
Those features were not there for the Xbox. Some may have been similar like 480p support but not all games were.
As far as 3 inch discs, my mac won't play them, how do they not get stuck in the PS3?

Slacker George

11-26-06, 04:36 PM

Those features were not there for the Xbox. Some may have been similar like 480p support but not all games were.
As far as 3 inch discs, my mac won't play them, how do they not get stuck in the PS3?Magic? :) Really I don't know. I guess there's some sort of guide that keeps everything lined up.

firefighter81

11-26-06, 08:18 PM

Have you verified that? I thought I read somewhere in the manual that it wouldn't accept anything but standard sized discs. *runs to get PS3 manual"

Slacker George

11-26-06, 08:59 PM

Have you verified that? I thought I read somewhere in the manual that it wouldn't accept anything but standard sized discs. *runs to get PS3 manual"On page 21 of the white manual:
When using an 8 cm disc, insert the disc in the system without an adaptor. I just tried a mini DVD and it works. Seems to take a little longer for it to recognize the disc.

firefighter81

11-27-06, 12:13 AM

Oh cool, I wonder how it pulls it in and ejects? Meh, oh well I don't have any small discs like that anyways. Still a cool feature regardless.

metrognomerical

11-27-06, 01:07 PM

Okay, finally got an HDTV yesterday. Sharp 32" LCD. PS3 is running HDMI and it looks DOPE! Its a million times better than it looked on my regular tv. Also it fixed the complaints I had about madden. The text is now larger and smooth. Blu-Ray made my DVD look like nothing. Cant wait for more movies to hit the format. Although I will say the DVD player in the PS3 is garbage compared to my proscan DVD (non upconvert) running component. No problems or glitches so far from what some have described. Fun way to see the HD graphics, download the NBA07 demo, go get a dunk, and then go to replay. you'll have fun for an hour. watch the sweat run down the faces. AWESOME! also I played San Andreas for PS2 on it and it still looked fine as some said the PS2 games looked ****** on HD.

Slacker George

11-27-06, 05:47 PM

Although I will say the DVD player in the PS3 is garbage compared to my proscan DVD (non upconvert) running component. What problems did you see? I've only looked at a few scenes on DVD but I thought it looked excellent. Maybe even a little better than my upconverting DVD player.

metrognomerical

11-27-06, 05:58 PM

Its not that it had problems but the PQ was significantly better on my philips. I thought it was kinda wierd since the ps3 in running in HDMI and the philips is Component. I tested with the first scene from Revenge of the Sith. I would have thought the PS3 DVD player would have upconvert.
I wish it did then I wouldn't have to go buy one eventually. Again it wasn't that it looked horrible but my other dvd player was a little smoother. I know the darks were darker on the regular dvd player. But The BD blows the dvd player away hands down. Talladega has gotten bad reviews by some for PQ but it looked really nice in 1080i. I got Full Metal Jacket on BD today (one of my favorite all time movies) so we'll see how that looks....

Slacker George

11-27-06, 06:04 PM

I have noticed the PS3 can't do blacker than black, over HDMI anyway. Maybe that's part of the problem.

Doctor Krypton

11-27-06, 11:33 PM

Magic? :) Really I don't know. I guess there's some sort of guide that keeps everything lined up.
That's good to know, I wish my Mac did that.

metrognomerical

11-28-06, 12:02 PM

watch Full Metal Jacket on BD last night. Damn nice transfer if you ask me, hell the original master has got to be 20+ years old. Im lovin this blu ray and hdtv...

Doctor Krypton

11-28-06, 03:14 PM

I know I don't own a PS3 yet but have to give my impressions.
I saw the PS3 connected at Target and the screen said 720p on display. But the games looked bad so I was worried about the graphics.
But today I saw one set up at Best buy and it looked awesome.
So now I am really Jonesing to get mine. :)

jlohrenz

11-28-06, 05:53 PM

First impressions:

Purchased PS3 on 11/22 Along with NBA2k7, NHL2k7, Madden 07, Ridge Racer 7, Tiger Woods 2007, and Resistance: FOM
It came with :Taladaga, and I purchased Ice Age: Meltdown, RV, and a chick flick for the wife.

My Setup: 46" Samsung LNS-4696D LCD 1080p Display, Onkyo 7.1 Surround Reciever, AV123 Speaker setup

Blue-Ray: The movies are outstanding. Ice Age was jaw dropping. The features of the system are nice. I'm looking forward to the remote coming out. I just hope there is a way to get it programmed on a universal remote.
Audio and video picture (through component currently) were very impressive. I'm not sure if this movie was in 1080p or 1080i, but it was playing in 1080i. I'm switching to HDMI this weekend to see if that makes any difference.

Gaming System: The graphics are great. The system is easy to navigate and the ability to configure multiple users is very nice. You can have a master account with sub-accounts, and if the sub-accounts are for minors you can set parental limits on content, chatting..etc. VERY NICE feature if you ask me.
NBA2k7 is a 1080p game and the graphics and gameplay are astounding. The players are very realistic, gameplay is fast, and online play is a cinch.
Ridge Racer 7 is also 1080, and the graphics are awesome. The sound is great, and the picture looks wonderful considering how fast the scenery is screaming by.

I could go on about the other games, but I need to head home. Overall I'm impressed. Considering this is a new system I am glad I got it. It has a ways to go in some areas (Online store, connectivity to your LAN for music..etc.) But based on how easy it is to flash and update the system I'm sure Sony will deliver.
If these release games are any indication of this system's power, games a year or so from now when developers are more familiar with the system are going to be truely unbelieveable.

p.s. the sixaxis feature is cool. It takes a while to get used to, but definately adds to the games that support it.

Mobius_570

11-29-06, 01:04 PM

Hello everyone. I've been a lurker for a while now and this is my first post to AVSForum. I received my PS3 on 11/17 from EB Games and have been playing on a standard def TV for past week and half. I know it is a sin to have a machine that outputs 1080p and still viewing on standard def. I did go ahead yesterday and order a Panny AE900U so I can join the ranks of high def viewing pleasure. I do have to say that even on a SDTV I'm quite impressed with the graphical power of the PS3. I purchased Call Of Duty 3 and some of things that stand out are the little details like the smoke from a smoke grenade or the individual blades of grass. I'm amused by those details.

Yung Impression

11-29-06, 06:27 PM

I'm like you Doctor Krypton, i am wanting to get my PS3 before Christmas so i can play Resistance: Fall of Man.

Artmic

11-30-06, 12:00 AM

jlohrenz

11-30-06, 12:44 PM

I doubt the OS Interface will change much. It is the exact same thing as what they have on their PSP.

Artmic

11-30-06, 11:33 PM

I doubt the OS Interface will change much. It is the exact same thing as what they have on their PSP.

i hope not, damn,

trobinson71

12-01-06, 12:29 AM

check this out....

http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/11/30/ps3-to-get-upscaled-dvds-1080p-24-sacd/#comments

any comments? how would they make these changes for those of us with units now? firmware?

brad31

12-01-06, 09:54 AM

Finally have mine.

Here are some first impressions of someone who is a casual gamer upgrading from the PS2 to the PS3 (I do not have an X-Box 360 and had actually never played one on a decent sized HDTV). I used component cables for the PS3 (my two HDMI ports are utilized by the HD TiVo and my upconverting DVD player and I am not going to upgrade my now antiquated Onkyo flagship receiver for HDMI -- yet anyway).

Set-up was extremely easy -- took only a couple of minutes. The machine is very heavy and feels solid compared to the PS2.

I am ecstatic with the picture quality on games. Played a little of Madden and Marvel Ultimate Alliance last night and love the picture. I had pretty much stopped playing my PS2 the last 20 months because it looked like such crap on my television (Sony KDF-55XS955). My favorite game series (NCAA2K) was pretty much unplayable because I couldn't stand the picture. Bought a couple of games that supported 480p but most of them looked too bad for me to want to play them.

It seemed the sound was better on games than the PS2 (could be because most of my games were older) even though both systems were connected with an optical cable. Part of this may be that now that the controller is wireless I can sit in the sweet-spot of my 7.1 set-up instead of closer to the TV where my controllers (with extenders) could reach.

The system is very quiet, and the load times on games are much faster than the PS2.

The XMB is not very impressive -- it works fine but doesn't look that great.

Graphics are very good but not significantly better than God of War. I think most of the improvement is from the picture being in 720p (on the games I have tried) versus 480p. I am not a big first person shooter fan -- so the games I purchased were also not the ones with the best graphics so far.

I love the wireless controller. Haven't been able to sit-back on the couch to play games since we moved and have a bigger Family Room. (I know that I could have bought a wireless controller for the PS2 -- but I honestly didn't play it too much with the new TV).

I have not tried using it on-line yet -- my connection speed will be too slow for gaming (hopefully leaving it on overnight will allow it to download the upgrade later this week). I may move up my connection speed for gaming down the road.

Will try-out blu-ray this week-end.

Overall very excited to move to an HD gaming system. Blu-Ray is the reason I was waiting for the PS3 rather than get an X-Box 360. I was pleased to see the rebate booklet for Blu-Ray movies in the PS3 -- lots of $10 rebates on movie purchases.

I truly believe I was the only person at Best Buy yesterday that was buying the machine for my own use and not e-bay. I bet there will be a new flood of machines on there today.

nvrlnd

12-01-06, 11:54 PM

Got mine earlier today, have been playing around with it for a while.

So far, I think it's "ok".

Plusses:
+ The games look pretty good. Especially given how rushed everything was, i'm pleased with the visual quality. Resistance looks great when everything starts going to hell on screen.
+ The sound quality is really amazing on Blu-Ray movies, wow.
+ The Sixaxis actually is pretty cool... I actually like the small motion-control touches they've put into the games. They feel better than I thought, too. I don't think theyre too light, they feel about right to me.
+ The video quality on Blu-Ray movies is really nice too. Not "drop everything and go get one now!" good, but a definite step up over upscaled DVDs.
+ Compared to the hurricane vortex of my 360, it's whisper-silent.
+ the XMB interface oozes class and 'elegance'

Minuses
- the UI just isn't as user-friendly as the 360's. To get from Point A to Point B you often need to head all the way back up to the main menu. Buttons also seem to change their roles, and the "system messages" can be bewildering and annoying (i.e. some messages you press X to close, other messages you have to press circle to 'back out' of).
- The Playstation store has the potential to be really cool (hello, Singstar!), but they need to enable background downloading ASAP.
- Still can't get it to output audio through HDMI and Optical simultaneously. Not a deal breaker, but slightly annoying
- Playstation Network is a far cry from the user-experience of Live. Of course, it's free, so I can't complain too much. But i'm spoiled by Live.

Broccoli

12-02-06, 01:02 AM

Ok so far i see the following:

Impressions:

- Web browser, ugh, some type of reject browser from 1994 or something.
- Sony store thing online, ugh, ugly.
- Operating system interface, Xbox beats it by a mile. PS3 looks very rushed.

***Graphics:
Who cares, everything on this machine now is just first batch of games that are not indicative of the graphical performance of this system.

***Hardware
-Looks WOW, black finish, glossy, so far seems to be made out of better components than the xbox 360.
-Controller is way too light, and feels like a plastic toy. Also the rumble is gone :( NOT GOOD.

***BD Player:
Hopefully the remote will be as nice as the HD-DVD remote i had with the xbox 360.

***Overall:
I LOVE the potential, can’t wait for my favorite game, Devil May cry

The online experience and usability as well as the operating system will improve over time, there is nothing stopping SONY from making drastic improvements to make it more easy to use, and more “intuitive” because this thing is fugly right now.
The Xbox 360 is easier to setup the Internet for if you share a computer and a console between one cable/dsl modem.

feel exactly the same about the PS3 and a few thngs I like to add
- I really miss listening my own music while playing a game I hope they will add that function.
- I still don't like the dual shock controller I guess my hands are to big.
- Bluetooth is annoying because I can use my universal remote.

Plusses:
+ The games look pretty good. Especially given how rushed everything was, i'm pleased with the visual quality. Resistance looks great when everything starts going to hell on screen.

Rushed? PS3 was delayed at least 6 month they had plenty of time also considering most games are only ports I would say I'm dissapointed. They should at least look better than the 360 version with the "awesome" power the PS3 suppose to have. ;)

w1ngman

12-02-06, 03:16 AM

Still can't get it to output audio through HDMI and Optical simultaneously. Not a deal breaker, but slightly annoying.

You need to return to your settings...actually, your audio settings I believe it was :confused:...and drill down to digital audio optical. Once there, you have to 'tick' off the particular digital audio options your A/V setup accepts ;)

...I ran into the same issue on Day 1. On Day 2 I figured this puppy out! :cool:

ARogan

12-02-06, 03:42 AM

I finally got a 60gb. Here are my first impressions:
http://aroganworld.blogspot.com/2006/12/playstation-3.html

I've still got more stuff to test (bluetooth headset, eyetoy,etc)

Fredster

12-02-06, 10:04 AM

I set up a 20GB model this AM.

I didn't try out too many things yet. I did managed to get the online name I wanted so I guess there's some virtue to getting networked early. This system will be used more by my kids (at least for games) though. I downloaded the Motorstorm demo and took a few laps mostly just fiddling with the camera and boosting off the cliffs. I checked out the "Ricky Bobby" just to make sure it worked.

Smooth sailing so far. Now to buy PS3 games/movies/gear for the holiday...

controller2k

12-02-06, 11:45 AM

I finally got a 60gb. Here are my first impressions:
http://aroganworld.blogspot.com/2006/12/playstation-3.html

I've still got more stuff to test (bluetooth headset, eyetoy,etc)

Thank you for a superb post of your impressions. I have a 360 as well as an HD-DVD player and read what you wrote and agree 100%.

[ one question: "video files MUST reside in a \VIDEO directory off of the root of the storage device.".. can that device be a burned DVD? I wonder if I can put edited HD MPEG2 videos on a DVD and watch them from there like a poor man's Blu-Ray disc]

I do think that HD-DVD has a leg up on picture quality and interactivity, but not much.

I do also think the PS3 has some good hardware potential, and looks at least as good as the 360 on many games.

In the end, if given a choice between a 360 and PS3 game (multiplatform), I'll -always- get the 360 version as it will perform the same, look the same, and play much better thanks to Xbox Live and the 360's generally much better OS experience.

I'll get a HD-DVD instead of Blu-Ray because of the better sound and features (and I have a standalone player).

For media (photos, video.. except for WMV of course), I'll probably use the PS3... it's better, IMHO.

I'll of course get/rent PS3 exclusives and Blu-Ray exclusives as necessary, which is really why I bought this thing in the first place.

I am still amazed that Sony got spanked by MS in the start of this generation's race. What was Sony doing for the last year besides blowing hot air?

Artmic

12-02-06, 11:52 PM

controller2k

12-03-06, 12:03 AM

I just watched that BluRay Nascar movie that came with the PS3, and damn i'm disapointed with BluRay, god............ my 100 dollar Sony DVD that upscales does the same type of job in my opinion. (oh by the way, that movie is awful, no wonder they included that crap for free)

I still had those damn 2 black bars at the top and bottom and for all that bs on the disk that it is 1080p , it is just a crock of crap. 1080p would mean the entire movie would be seen on the entire god damn screen, we wouldnt' see any stupid black bars.

it should read 720p not 1080p, since the 2 bars are taking away from the viewing size.

-Yes- it is a bad movie to show off Blu-Ray.

I'd even say it looks only marginally better than a well-upscaled DVD, but it's still noticeably HD IMHO, just not "great 3D" HD.

-No-, 1080p does not have -anything- to do with the aspect ratio a film was made in. HDTV (720P, 1080i, 1080p) is a 16:9 ratio.

Some movies were shot in a wider format, which will, yes, show black bars on the top and bottom of the screen like you see. Widescreen DVDs do the same thing. What made you think 1080p got rid of the black bars and changed a movie's aspect ratio?

1080p vs 720p has -nothing- to do with aspect ratio. It's all about resolution.

Artmic

12-03-06, 03:04 AM

-Yes- it is a bad movie to show off Blu-Ray.

I'd even say it looks only marginally better than a well-upscaled DVD, but it's still noticeably HD IMHO, just not "great 3D" HD.

-No-, 1080p does not have -anything- to do with the aspect ratio a film was made in. HDTV (720P, 1080i, 1080p) is a 16:9 ratio.

Some movies were shot in a wider format, which will, yes, show black bars on the top and bottom of the screen like you see. Widescreen DVDs do the same thing. What made you think 1080p got rid of the black bars and changed a movie's aspect ratio?

1080p vs 720p has -nothing- to do with aspect ratio. It's all about resolution.

Hmm that is confusing, if the disk says 1080p, should it not use all 1080 lines to display a picture? :)

I figure on a computer if you set a resolution 1024X768 that is what you get, so wouldnt' this be the same. I realize some movies are not shot that way, for example, Star Trek Enterprise or Smallville fills the entire screen, without any crazy black bars, i guess the movie houses need to start filming differently one day.

JoeyTampa

12-03-06, 11:45 AM

So far I'm impressed with my PS3. I really like Resistance Fall Of Man, especially online. I love that I can use it as a Blu Ray DVD player, but wish my Harmony 880 would work with it. SONY probably could have chosen a better movie other then Talladega Nights to show of what Blu Ray can do. I have seen other Blu Ray movies that look fantastic. I also notice an improvement in the audio through the optical out compared to my standard DVD player. I like that I can use the internet browser on my 73 inch TV. I have a 1080p TV, but it will not except a 1080p signal, so as far as games I am getting 720p for games and 1080i for movies. It sounds like they will implement a firmware update to fix this, but I have no complaints with the picture quality of the games or the movies. I also like that firmware updates are easily accessible.

scottnv

12-04-06, 11:46 AM

I have the PS3 hooked up to an Optoma HD7100 with a 106 inch screen. I also have a full 7.1 THX surround sound system (Integra receiver, energy speakers, SVS sub).

The picture and sound are amazing!! Resistance in 720p is clear as can be and the sound of the battle is something to experience.

Never played a game before on a projector size screen, it does make a difference!

I also play Tiger Woods 07, having the courses and golfers large is a big plus.

No problems at all with the PS3 to Optoma HD7100 feed, has worked perfectly every time.

briankmonkey

12-04-06, 11:57 AM

Currently using my PS3 (HDMI, haven't tried component yet) and 360 a my 60" SXRD 60A2000 1080p set.

Personally I am very impressed, IMO it's one of the best electronic values I've ever had. The machine runs silent which is great and it also play blu-ray movies flawlessly. The SIXAXIS does everything needed for basic playback and more, I have no desire to get a separate remote as it is not clunky at all like PS2 playback. It is extremely fast at fast forwarding and rewind functions, even has audio at 1.5 playback which is kind of cool. It has frame by frame and all that as well.

I've messed around with the A1 at the stores, IMO it is very slow and clunky compared to the PS3. PQ is up to par with blu-ray but that player is one of the chunkiest I've ever used, night and day between that and the PS3.

I've watch two movies so far, Superman Returns (VC-1) and Talladega Nights (forgot to check, just push select while view to check bitrates, et). Superman Returns looked quite a bit nicer than Talladega Nights, but I still think TN, while not as consistent had moments of looking great. Superman was much more consistent though some areas had noise in dark scenes just like almost every HD-DVD and Blu-ray movie I've viewed.

As for gaming, I only bought one game which is Resistance. I've also downloaded some demos.

Resistance surprisingly actually has some story, kind of feels like elements of Half Life and other games mixed together while playing through it. The frame rate has been flawless during single player as well as during split-screen co-op. The guns feel solid though I don't care for the gun that marks somebody and then the following weapons home in. The rest of the weapons are much more enjoyable. It feels good to blast a Chimera up close with a shotgun and see him fly across the room. If you are further away they don't fly as far; it seems like they've put physics into everything in the game. The controls are also solid. The analog sticks are much more sensitive and precise than the PS2's dual shock. No dead zone or anything. It's easy to move the target where you want on exact body parts (usually the head). As for the level designs, the first level of resistance rather bland but once you get inside it gets much better. I haven't had a chance to get online (have the 20GB version) but maybe tonight I'll bring it to my friends as I did earlier to download the demo's.

Motorstorm is just awesome :) It feels like they it is a more recent build than the kiosk versions with sped up game play and smoother frame-rate. I just finished playing for a few hours with my buddy. This game could easily sell systems, no other racer comes close to this IMO. My buddy kept saying "MS needs to just buy this game already for the 360". Oh yeah, Motion driving on Motorstorm is lame IMO, much rather have rumble. I doubt I'll use it much. To be fair it did feel responsive, I didn't notice any latency.

The Cell Factor (Mutant Storm rip-off, I liked Mutant Storm Reloaded on the 360) demo is too short to say much about it, way too easy and bland but maybe it picks up. The motion gimmick is just that a gimmick on this game.

F1 is pretty fun though I was hoping to see the destruction from the game play videos on the web. Game play is solid for racing fans. I noticed a few screen tears but overall great sense of speed. Also had an impressive amount of cars on screen at once. Scenery graphics aren't anything special but get the job done.

At this point I'm contemplating selling it as I really want a 60GB for the Wireless (I get my internet from my best friend/neighbor so I don't have a direct connection and would rather not buy wireless bridge if I can avoid.

mboojigga

12-04-06, 01:08 PM

Hmm that is confusing, if the disk says 1080p, should it not use all 1080 lines to display a picture? :)

I figure on a computer if you set a resolution 1024X768 that is what you get, so wouldnt' this be the same. I realize some movies are not shot that way, for example, Star Trek Enterprise or Smallville fills the entire screen, without any crazy black bars, i guess the movie houses need to start filming differently one day.

Thats because shows like you mentioned are made for HD television they are standard 16:9 just like every display sold. Movies are in different aspect ratios due to the director who choses how the movie is shot. Like anamorphic. Movies were made for theaters. THat is why you see TV on DVD fit your screen because just like when they were originally broadcast. Exact same thing for 4:3 content on a widescreen display with the bars on the side if you were to watch it in its original format because it is broadcast in 4:3 instead of 16:9. It is all normal and that is why you see the difference

Brajesh

12-05-06, 01:15 PM

Can someone tell me what the length is of the supplied ethernet cable. Thanks.

jlohrenz

12-05-06, 02:07 PM

About 4 feet.

Tyrant

12-05-06, 06:15 PM

After thinking that my 20gb PS3 was stolen by someone at CanadaPost since the package arrived in my city a week ago and was never listed as being delivered, it turns out that the shipping box was only horribly crushed with the tape torn off it and the system box had a large dent on the corner.

Taking the console out of the box, I was impressed and admittedly giddy at the shiny and large(heftwise and volumewise) nature of the console. The system was connected via a component cable I was using for my PS2, along with an optical cable.

The PS3 is surprisingly quiet at the XMB, but that may also be because it's sitting next to my PC. At the very least, it's quieter than my 360. It also pushes out quite a bit of hot air and since it's vertically setup at the moment, I could see this doubling as a small space heater. :P

Setting up the appropriate video and audio settings was a breeze, although I can't say I'm a fan of the XMB, as it can get overly cluttered, despite looking rather simple. After spending 30 minutes getting the damned thing online(it apparently doesn't like the settings I use for my PS2, Xbox, and Xbox 360), I was prompted to install the 1.11 update. The download itself took less than 5 minutes to complete and the installation took another 4 or 5 minutes as well. Signing up for a Playstation account was a bit of a pain without a USB keyboard. At the very least, Sony should include an onscreen keyboard as opposed to the using the PSP's dialpad.

Anyway, I downloaded the Motorstorm demo and that was a pretty fast download since it was 456mb and finished within 10 minutes, so either Sony's network issues have been sorted out, or those who've been having issues were just having issues with their network settings.

Regarding the controller, I don't quite see how people's fingers could slip off the "triggers", which have replaced the regular buttons for L2 and R2, although it certainly pushes in a bit more than I would like. Aside from that, it's the same controller we've had for almost 10 years now, albeit wireless and without rumble, but with a bit more analog resistance. I wish Sony would have attempted to improve upon the DualShocks by swapping the left analog stick with the d-pad, but on the other hand, I could see this causing control issues with PS1 and PS2 games.

The main thought that is going through my head right now is "I could sure go for a Wii..." and with that in mind, I'm going to go take a wee, do some grocery shopping, play some of the demos available and determine whether or not to keep the system.

Tyrant

12-07-06, 06:08 PM

After a few more hours with the system, here is the rest of my impressions:

Regarding backwards compatibility, who approved this crap? Using component output, PS2 games on the PS3 look worse than on an actual PS2. All games are output at 480p, and one could see this as a good thing, however some lag has been reported by others, although I haven't noticed it myself. There is also a noticeably odd sort...thing resembling pixelation that appears on the screen, like a series of vertical rectangles. It's even more evident when using HDMI output. Also, while my USB PS2 controller adapter works at the XMB, it apparently doesn't work for actual PS2 games, which can certainly be a boon with considering the lack of rumble support on the Sixaxis controller.

Anyway, I played the Resistance demo earlier today and the first thing I must say as someone who has avidly played first person shooters for a decade now is this: "Seriously? This is supposed to be THE game of the launch?" The AI or lack thereof is pretty awful. First off, the NPCs are apparently so utterly engaged in battle that they'll strafe into my stream of bullets...frequently, thus causing geysers of blood to burst from their heads, but they're ok, because they're friendly bullets! I saw several instances of NPCs staring at walls not doing anything, or just blocking my way when I attempt to strafe into cover, and that was just on the first demo level. As for the enemies, they do one of two things: Shoot at you, and almost always you alone(which is especially evident during the first boss fight), or duck if they take some damage. Like some other FPS that I don't quite recall the name of, it isn't particularly obvious that you're doing damage to the regular enemies up until their death animation kicks in. Some of the weapons are certainly original, but unique weapons do not make for a solid game.

BluRay playback is reportedly better than the majority of the standalone players according to some threads here, but I didn't try it out on the basis that I didn't want to unwrap my copy of Talladega Nights...which leads to my conclusion:

Until some truly worthwhile games come out and Sony fixes up their various issues with backwards compatibility, scaling, inability to do anything while downloads are working, etc., I can't recommend purchasing the system unless you're looking for a "low" priced BluRay player.

In short, as other folks have said, the PS3 is a jack of all trades, but a master of none. At this point, I'm just going to try making some extra money by selling the system and putting that cash on a Wii.

spwolf

12-07-06, 07:51 PM

Tyrant

12-07-06, 08:17 PM

lol... you played one demo and didnt watch BD movies, yet you make reccomendations...

lolololololz!!!111

If you read my earlier post...you know, the one above the one you looked at, I played 3 demos(4 now with Genji a few minutes ago...and it wasn't anything to write home about). Now I figured you wouldn't notice, but my recommendation was based on the PS3 as a pure gaming machine. I'll just go ahead and make it really obvious for your convenience though:

I can't recommend purchasing the system unless you're looking for a "low" priced BluRay player.

snookalo

12-07-06, 09:03 PM

My first impressions were "Wow, this thing is BIG". But I was used to the slim PS2. Comparing the two side by side was laughable. It got hot, but only in the back right corner as far as I could tell with my hands, and a bit in the very front. The first night I didn't have a game yet so I watched the movie that came with it. It wasn't really knock me on the floor great, but there was a noticable upgrade to Direct TV. My 1080i tv looked great with it. No crappy artifacts like with D*. I've watched a couple more movies, MI3 and Firewall. I guess I'm no videophile so I saw nothing really different in the coding of the movies and what makes a great film that way. But I thought MI3 looked the worst out of all of them. My wife did too. It is fast loading and turns on quick. Not many options though on the movies. I've only got one game, and it's Resistance. I was a little hesitant after Killzone on how this game would be. I know they're made by different companies, but the disappointment of Killzone still gets to me. Resistance though is a great game. I have really enjoyed it. I wish though, that I didn't live in the sticks so I could play online. It's only the second shooter game I've really ever played, and the first was Halo. So, overall, I like it. I think it's a great BluRay player and I think it's great game machine too. I have no issues with the 720P/1080i crap that is going on so I have no complaints.

jchretien4

12-09-06, 07:02 PM

Just got a PS3 for my girls, ages 10, 12 and 14, who all want to use it for the PS2 Dance Revolution (I think it's called DDR) game that requires a dance mat (sold separately). As I understand it, the mat wires up to a PS2 just fine. PS3, however, has only USB ports.

Any suggestions?

-frustrated father

spwolf

12-09-06, 08:21 PM

spwolf

12-09-06, 08:22 PM

lolololololz!!!111

If you read my earlier post...you know, the one above the one you looked at, I played 3 demos(4 now with Genji a few minutes ago...and it wasn't anything to write home about). Now I figured you wouldn't notice, but my recommendation was based on the PS3 as a pure gaming machine. I'll just go ahead and make it really obvious for your convenience though:
again, you played 4 demos and no movies and you are making reccomendations? how does that work?

Tyrant

12-09-06, 10:33 PM

again, you played 4 demos and no movies and you are making reccomendations? how does that work?

I'll say it again, my recommendation was based on the PS3 as a PURE GAMING MACHINE. Not as a BluRay player. Not as a media centre. Not as a PC running linux. Not as a shiny reflective monolith paperweight. Purely as a video game machine.

I'm guessing the majority of the 111 million people who bought a PS2 did so for a reason other than CD and DVD playback. They purchased it because it is a gaming machine with something other than this "potential" you've mentioned in many of your posts: an actual library of great games, which were available at the time of purchase.

Now in person, you may very well be the kindest person on the planet, getting kittens down from trees, saving old ladies from burning buildings, and volunteering at the local homeless shelter, but as an internet message board user, I can't recommend that anyone interacts with you or reads your posts on the basis that you give off the standard corporate fanboy vibe.

FiveMillionWays

12-09-06, 10:42 PM

gnosys

12-10-06, 05:13 PM

Bought y'day - COD3 sure looks (and sound) nice. Can't get the controller away from my teenage son!

killermmn

12-10-06, 05:33 PM

rcavictor1956

12-10-06, 05:35 PM

So far I am not impressed with my purchase. Resistance to me sucks so bad they should have kept it in development or not published it. The ratings on that thing had to be paid for by Sony themselves. I can't see why it was so hyped when these games you have to play are so bad. I hope it gets better with time.

:rolleyes: Thank goodness for Sony you are not a reviewer for any of the gaming magazines since you have no idea what you are talking about.

rcavictor1956

12-10-06, 05:40 PM

lolololololz!!!111

If you read my earlier post...you know, the one above the one you looked at, I played 3 demos(4 now with Genji a few minutes ago...and it wasn't anything to write home about). Now I figured you wouldn't notice, but my recommendation was based on the PS3 as a pure gaming machine. I'll just go ahead and make it really obvious for your convenience though:

Tyrant,

These are demos you are playing and hardly the finished product as in most cases. I have not experienced what you are describing with Resistance. Maybe someone you know has the game....they can let you borrow the actual game so you can see a finished product. :cool:

FiveMillionWays

12-10-06, 08:25 PM

:rolleyes: Thank goodness for Sony you are not a reviewer for any of the gaming magazines since you have no idea what you are talking about.

Well since you seem to know what I like and what I think of the game I suppose it's you who don't know what you are talking about. You must be a fanboy. That game sucks period. Nothing you can say to me to make me change my mind.

rcavictor1956

12-11-06, 06:45 AM

Well since you seem to know what I like and what I think of the game I suppose it's you who don't know what you are talking about. You must be a fanboy. That game sucks period. Nothing you can say to me to make me change my mind.

These people here kill me with this fanboy stuff.....when you have nothing intelligent to say....that is the automatic response. One must be a fanboy. I own all of the systems......support both blu ray and hd-dvd so I am by no means a fanboy of Sony. Just someone who knows quality in gaming and movies as you obviously do not. :rolleyes:

rcavictor1956

12-11-06, 07:04 AM

So far I am not impressed with my purchase. Resistance to me sucks so bad they should have kept it in development or not published it. The ratings on that thing had to be paid for by Sony themselves. I can't see why it was so hyped when these games you have to play are so bad. I hope it gets better with time.

So your impression of Resistance goes from okay but too short to it sucks so bad it should have been kept in development??? Can you at least stay with one or the other. Talk about fanboys....you must be a 360 fanboy as you would like to point out. :rolleyes:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=760872

BOSS10L

12-11-06, 10:01 AM

Well....

Finally decided to break down, open and get my 20GB PS3 set up this weekend. I was quite excited, having owned just about every system released since I received my 2600 back in '79.

I must admit that I was puzzled by Sony's omitting of an HD connection cable in the box. Now I know that they probably figure that they need to cater to the lowest common denominator (composite), but geez, for as little as a 6ft HDMI cable would have cost them, they should have included it. I'm sure it was something done to keep the price down, but as a system that has been touted left and right about having 1080p and being "B3yond HD", it really should have came with it.

So, the PS3 is connected to the HT/router via HDMI/Toslink/Cat6 and I fire it up. Pretty cool hearing the symphony at startup, sounds sweet. I attempt to create an online account, but at the very end when I am submitting the information, it says "cannot connect to the server" or some such nonsense. This necessitates me re-entering the information again via Sony's cruel joke, aka the onscreen "keypad". What a joke. I will be purchasing a USB keyboard today, just so something like this doesn't happen again.

I finally get my account squared away, and immediately started downloading the MotoStorm demo. I notice that while you are DL'ing something from the PlayStation Store, you can't do anything else. Well, isn't that just ducky. So, I switch over to DirecTV and watch some TV for 5-10 minutes until it is done installing. I can't say how much of a PITA this is and will really limit my use of the PlayStation Store for downloads or mini-transactions unless they get that fixed.

Time for some gaming...I put Resistance in and get prepared to kick some Chimera backside! I am thoroughly impressed with the visuals in R:FoM, and must admit that while I am usually a 99% PC gamer when it comes to FPSes, the new sixaxis controller does feel fairly natural, if not quite a bit smaller compared to the 360s hefty offering. While Resistance does have a lot going for it, I can't shake this feeling that it is a derivative of every game in the genre that I've played before. Sure, up to this point I'm not looking for keys to unlock doors, but R:FoM isn't showing me anything different. Not that it is a bad thing, mind you, but in the end, entirely forgettable all the same.

I decided to download all the playable demos available. More agony. Another thing. Why is it that every time I end up completing a download of a demo, that I have to completely exit and re-enter the PlayStation store if I want to DL anything else? I've tried "clicking" on the "top store" buttons, ect., but they are met with no response and I am forced to simply exit out. Not very intuitive, IMHO.

The wife suggests we pop in Talladega Nights. I can see why Sony decided to include this film as the pack-in, they sure as hell shouldn't sell many of them at retail. I'm a fan of Will Ferrell, but aside from 5-10 quick one-liners that made me chuckle, this movie sucks. PQ and AQ were good, but I did find some scenes where the PQ would either suffer from excessive grain (artistic intent?) or inconsistent sharpness. Obviously I am withholding judgement on the BD format as this is the first title I've actually sat through, but I am overall pleased with what I've seen.

Demo time...I decide to try MotoStorm first. Wow, what a fun demo! I can't wait until this title ships to retail. My only gripe is that I felt like my finger was going to slip off the R2 "trigger" as I held it down for gas. Again, this could be because I am used to the bulkier 360 controller. The crash animations are a chuckle to watch, and the scenery is quite realistic.

Blast Factor - Too short to really form an opinion, but very reminiscent of Mutant Storm and Geometry Wars.

Crash Gun Chaos - This is what would happen if Smash TV were created by disco dudes in the 70s with crappy programming tools.

Gengi - Aesthetically pleasing, but yet another hack and slash, button mashing, fight wave after wave of enemies game that we've all seen before.

F1 - I found it quite fun. I like the fact that they allow you to chose more than just one racer in this demo. My 4 year old was ecstatic that I could be Michael Schumacher in his Ferrari (he's a big Pixar Cars fan). This game was graphically impressive, and I look forward to the retail release.

Sudoku - It's Sudoku. 'Nuff said.

Overall impressions on the PS3-

While I think the PS3 has a lot of potential, right now, it seems to be a homologation of either derivative titles or features that seem to be almost "lifted" from the competition, although not implemented nearly as effectively. In an era where most 3rd party games are either cross-ported or barely differ from platform to platform, it is going to take more to earn those sales dollars. For the most part, the first 500K - 1M of all systems sold are usually to the hardcore fans and the early adopters. Once you start getting in the 2M+ territory, you start bringing in the causal gamers, and you start getting deeper market penetration.

Sony seems like they have one helluva system on their hands, but it is going to be an uphill battle the whole way. The 360 is already entrenched with a loyal fan base, a huge library spearheaded by titles like GoW and a much more fleshed out online service in XBL. Nintendo should not be discounted as well, they will probably reach a larger number of non-traditional gamers and could be a force in this generation.

It all boils down to titles and experience. Sony needs to start getting those killer apps, the 1st party and 3rd party exclusives that will be the "must own" titles to draw in the hardcore and average gamers. They also need to flesh out the PlayStation store and it's other online components along with some fun, interactive titles using the sixaxis controller if it plans to compete with those who would consider the Wii as their primary system.

So, for Sony & the PS3, I give the following grades:

Potential: A+
Online presence: C+
Hardware: A
Current Software: B
Blu-Ray playback: A- avg. (PQ - B+ / AQ - A+)

DaverJ

12-11-06, 11:47 AM

Great write-up Boss10L! You really captured the PS3 at this point in time.

wolfyncsu7

12-11-06, 11:53 AM

BOSS,

Considering you've only watched a comedy Blu-ray title in Dolby Digital and gave the Blu-ray AQ an A+, I'm curious what you'll give it when you watch Blackhawk Down while listening to the Uncompressed PCM track.

How far above A+ does your scale go? ;)

BOSS10L

12-11-06, 02:22 PM

BOSS10L

12-11-06, 02:23 PM

Great write-up Boss10L! You really captured the PS3 at this point in time.

Thanks. I really can't wait to get some more time in with this machine, as I feel it has so much potential, I just hope it can be harnessed. :cool:

Blkout

12-11-06, 04:18 PM

Now in person, you may very well be the kindest person on the planet, getting kittens down from trees, saving old ladies from burning buildings, and volunteering at the local homeless shelter, but as an internet message board user, I can't recommend that anyone interacts with you or reads your posts on the basis that you give off the standard corporate fanboy vibe.

Bwahahaha!!!!

FiveMillionWays

12-12-06, 01:17 AM

So your impression of Resistance goes from okay but too short to it sucks so bad it should have been kept in development??? Can you at least stay with one or the other. Talk about fanboys....you must be a 360 fanboy as you would like to point out. :rolleyes:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=760872

Dude I just like to game. Not a fanboy of anything but good games. I tried to like RFM but it's just not happening. Just because you like Kool-Aid doesn't mean the world should hate Flavor-Aid now does it? If you like it then good for you, but this is a first impressions thread and that means good and bad. If it were all good then there would be no forums where others could talk about their experience with their gear now would it? If you don't like what I say about the game MY hard earned cash paid for then tough. Now move along like a good boy and find another yard to dig for bones.

FiveMillionWays

12-12-06, 01:25 AM

I want to get motor storm. Played the demo and it rocks!

s3an_looi

12-12-06, 02:39 AM

The PS3 is a newborn that I can tell will be a superhero someday, and it will be fun to watch it grow up. If you want to skip the awkward baby stage, there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm gonna skip that 'baby stage' :)

That's why i'm very close to getting an x360 now. I'll probably get the PS3 in 2-3years time after I start working and have a place of my own...

RobertR1

12-12-06, 03:01 AM

I'm going to post all my PS3 experiences in this thread over at B3D for anyone interested:

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36580

AMartin56

12-14-06, 07:18 PM

I managed to grab a 60GB today from Gamestop. I'm friendly with the staff and they told me they might have 8 coming in today and while they couldn't hold one for me they would call if they came in. I was grabbing lunch across the parking lot when the UPS truck pulled up and sure enough I got a call about 5 minutes later.

First some background. I own a Toshiba HD-DVD player, a 360 and a Wii.

So far I've played the Motorstorm demo and some R:FoM. I've also tried a DVD, but I don't currently own any Blu-ray movies.

So anyways...

Can't say I'm all that impressed with the build quality. The plastic case seems cheap/tacky (IMO) and while not exactly flimsy it doesn't feel all that solid when I pick it up either. Overall it's fine though since it's not like the 360 had a great case either.

Setup was easy. No problems getting it on the network (wired). Running it trough component and optical out right now (My receiver doesn't do HDMI and my HD-DVD player is using the lone HDMI connector on my TV).

Setting up an account without a USB keyboard wasn't that big of a deal. Went quick enough.

My TV (A Sony A20) supports everything other than 1080p.

DVD playback was disappointing. Despite telling it my TV could handle everything other than 1080p it wouldn't upscale DVD's. My TV actually looks worse with a 480p signal compared to a 480i though so I 'lied' to the PS3 and told it I don't take 480p. Looked much better. So DVD's ultimately look okay, but I hope they get it to upscale soon (I assume they can do it in firmware since they have to have the overhead to do it in software with everything this thing has under the hood) and in the meantime I will use my excellent HD-DVD player to upscale DVD's.

The Motorstorm demo and R:FoM both look and play fine. Nothing great compared to what is out on the 360 but not bad for launch stuff. Plenty of opinions elsewhere on these two so I'll leave it at that.

Interface can use some work. I was really surprised that I couldn't set my own desktop background for one thing (Hell even my PSP will do that) and text size in the browser and the 'shop' is waaaaay too small.

So anyways overall I'm pleased but keep the updates coming Sony!

jlatham

12-15-06, 10:48 AM

Does anybody know if guitar hero 2 will work on the ps3?

BobDobalina

12-15-06, 10:55 AM

It will not, sadly.

GeorgeLV

12-15-06, 06:19 PM

Picked up a 60 GB today at GameStop (I was going to buy some of the Xbox games added to the 360 backwards compatibility, but I couldn't pass it up).

My first impression was the size and weight. The PS3 sure is a whopper.

The second impression is that it quite possibly has the worst setup of any mass market CE device ever. I was eventually able to trudge through it, but WTF on the cell phone data entry?

I don't have any games yet and mine didn't come with the Talledega Nights pack-in (I guess Sony is past 500,000) so I'm going to have to get setup for the online to play with it.

I don't imagine I'll use it much, this holiday season, but it's nice to have a back-up for the Sony $$$ exclusive games and to have a Blu-ray play if HD-DVD loses the format war.

Third impression, entering my WPA password using the cell phone entry was a nightmare. Having to immediately perform the system update wasn't much fun and is noticeably slower than any of the Xbox 360 updates. Hopefully, they all won't take as long.

Fourth impression, WTF, I have to go though EULA screens to initiate the update to 1.31.

Fifth impression, the utter lack of multitasking is embarrassing. After making it through the tedious process of signing up for the Playstation Store now I have to wait for Lemming to finish downloading before I can queue up the Motorstorm demo.

GW-SMOkeY

12-16-06, 09:22 AM

I also waited for the PS3 as my next gen Console. :cool: So what if I am stuck beta-testing hardware untill next year rolls around, but the must have exlcusives will pay off. Not to even mention Oblivion in 1080p :D

Speaking of this thread, and so far on what I read; is that Xbots are sure insecure, and do have to explain ( in detail ) their dedication to M$. Thats fine with me, I favor PS3 over X360 simple as that! So let others do the same ;) We don't need to hear/read about your HD-DVD, or X360 crap.

Simply, if you own a x360, there is no reason to own a PS3 right now, unless you are a hard core PS fan. There are not enough games, but rest assured that next year there will be much more games that wont be out on anything but PS3.

Motorstorm, Liar, Warhawk, Gran Turismo, MGS4, DMC4, should I go on?

:)

So if you ask me, was this upgrade worth it? YOU BET YOUR ASS IT IS! My HDTV loves it! 1080p BD, gaming heaven!

A slight HDMI issue, and issues here and there, but so far everything is getting better and better 1.31 here.

I did install Linux from Red Hat ( Fedora Core ) and waiting for YDL. Love it!

:D

slick316

12-16-06, 06:50 PM

Picked up a 60GB yesterday from Gamestop (Funcoland).

After reading countless threads on multiple forums on the PS3, I knew that I had to connect the supplied composite AV cables first, then switch over to HDMI from with the console settings (Would be nice if it were able to determine how it was connected at start up, oh well, not a big deal).

I had to connect the controller to the PS3 using the supplied USB cable. I thought this was a little wierd since I never, ever, had to do this with the X360. Again, not a big deal, its just wierd.

Connecting the wireless to my WAP protected connection was actually easy, and worked the first time (even my laptop and desktop have issues with this at times, so far, the PS3 is connecting without issue everytime).

After switching to HDMI for both video and audio output, I had trouble reading the text on screen from where I sit (about 7 feet away from my 32" Sony Bravia XBR1 LCD). Thats one thing I like about the 360, I can easily read all the menu text on the screen from where I sit.
It got worse when I had to enter info using that ridiculous letter/number input system. I had to get up and stand in front of my TV to see anything at that point. Also took forever to enter simple little things. This is the first annoying thing I encounter about the PS3. However, it seems that it can be changed if Sony wanted to change it.

First thing I did was grab the latest firmware update. Took a while, but it allowed the controller to charge up (is it just me, or is it lame that the supplied USB cable is like only 4 feet long? I can't leave the controller plugged in and play at the same time).

The menu system was easy to use, pleasing to the eye, in other words, I like it (just wish the text was larger).

The online store for downloading demo's and stuff was slow for me. Also, unless there is something I am missing, it appears as though you can't do anything while a demo is being downloaded. This is very annoying when you are waiting for a 500MB+ file to download.

The console itself is very nice looking. Very modern, stylish, even though its a little large. Pretty much silent operation, unlike my 360 (fans are not bad on the 360, but I have one with the really loud drives, thats my biggest 360 complaint). I like the touch sensitive eject and power buttons. The slot load drive is also a nice touch. I like how the media card reader is covered, keeps the look clean.

I don't like the controller all that much. I know I am used to the 360 controller, but the 360 controller is much more comfortable to me (and I'm not a big guy, 5'4", so even my small hands find the PS3 controller small). I like the triggers on top, and that it allows you to do what the 360 does, turn the console on/off from the controller. The missing rumble feature is noticeable, if you have been playing a 360 for the past year like me. Not a big deal, but, again, its wierd.
I do like the motion sensing part of the controller. I tried it with the Motorstorm demo and while I suck at using it, it seemed to work well. While its no Wii-mote, its a nice touch (larger grips would really make this a great controller).

Haven't played it much, but Motorstorm is definately a fun game. Visually, it still needs work, but its still a demo, I'm sure they will fix it for the release. I was however surprised that Resistance Fall of Man loaded quicker for me off a disc then the Motorstorm demo did which is sitting on my hard drive. A little odd, but not a big deal.

I was however impressed with how quick Blu Ray movies loaded (only have one, Terminator 2, one of my all time favorites, and well, it didn't look good, but I know its not the players fault). Really wish a remote was included (or even available right now). Using Bluetooth for remote sucks, can't use my Harmony 880, thanks Sony. Maybe, if we are lucky, someone will create a USB-IR adapter or something for the PS3 that will allow us to use our beloved universal remotes.

I don't know what else to say, its not a bad console at all. Sony needs to clean it up a little, which I'm sure they will. But MS is in this console race, the 360 to me is still better console overall for games right now. I am glad I got a PS3 however, I can't wait to try more Blu Ray movies and better games on this thing (especially when I get my 1080p television).

briankmonkey

12-16-06, 07:49 PM

"After reading countless threads on multiple forums on the PS3, I knew that I had to connect the supplied composite AV cables first, then switch over to HDMI from with the console settings (Would be nice if it were able to determine how it was connected at start up, oh well, not a big deal)."

My 20GB did just that right off the back..It was default to auto-detect on HDMI.

snakeyes1022

12-16-06, 07:53 PM

DaverJ

12-16-06, 07:58 PM

I did not have to hook up anything but hdmi from the start. i did not even upwrap the the composite i gave it to my daughter to use on her tv with my old ps2.

I didn't bother with composite either... as soon as it was unpacked I connected it to HDMI - no problems.

slick316

12-16-06, 08:02 PM

BLS871

12-18-06, 04:36 AM

Just got my PS3 (20GB) a few days ago, I wondered in a Walmart and there just happed to be one on the shelf :cool: But I haven't hooked it up quite yet as I am waiting to get my HDTV before I do.

Can anyone answer for me what the update right out of the box for the system is for? Is it just to play online? Or to play any games or anything? Cos I'll just want to play games right out of the box and am curious if I'll still need to update right away.

But to add some positivity here, I think people should know from experience by now that you can't judge a console at launch. Games are known for not being very good at launch. And especially on a system that game developers have made it no secret they will need time to learn their way around the cell processor before they can come anywhere near reaching it's potential. Should anyone really expect any different. I think we need more time before judging things like graphic quality and game selection

And as far as Talladega nights is concerned, Sony is already losing something like 100$ for each system they sell. I surprised we'd get anything at all at that rate. It is free guys :rolleyes:

As far as the war of systems is concerned I would like to have both honestly, But since I'm trying to only get one if I can help it, I picked PS3. Mostly cos I buy one thing and end it, where as Xbox seems like an endless buying process. But I am also a bit naive as I am only a casual game player. Mostly just play sports games really.

throwback559

12-19-06, 04:01 AM

Just got my ps3 60gb 20% off at Wal Mart. also got Resistance and Blu Ray Silent Hill

I like the Controller only if it had the Rumble feature.

I dont like how sony has the screen like the psp but i will admit it is kind of easy to go thre everything but I still prefer the 360's.

Blu ray - I was actually suprised with Blu Ray looks clean and sharp I own a HD DVD player (hda1) and I love HD and Blu Ray doest dissapoint.

Ps2 playback - I put in God Of War it was alrite looked better than it did on my ps2 but i thought it would look better.

Resistance- I played a little the games was alrite but i do like Gears of War alot better, My Brother really enjoyed the game and got into more than I did.

Online features and downloads- I will be checking this out later to see how it goes

UxiSXRD

12-19-06, 02:34 PM

Found my 60GB at Target. Already had Black Hawk Down and Kingdom of Heaven and added Stealth (crummy plot, great visuals) and Xmen 3, as well as Resistance and NBA07 on the gaming side.

XMB - I like it. I don't have a PSP, but found everything easy to find and get to. The nested structure is user friendly.

Blu-ray - I am blown away at how good of a player this is. I expected the BD playback to be better than the PS2's DVD playback, but this thing is great. Even using a controller, responsiveness is instantaneous and PQ pheoniminal. The Bitrate meters and shown Codecs from the Display feature are great to have. I was very amused that sound still plays when the content in played at 1.5x FF. Dialog sounds pretty funny sped up. :D

PS3 Games: I'm having a blast with NBA07. I always preferred sports games on consoles near exclusively. Graphics are cool and game play is nice. The SIXAXIS controls for crossovers, etc are great. Resistance is a great game. I prefer my FPS games on the PC, but this one is one of the best console shooters since Goldeneye.

PS2 games: I played some Lego Star Wars I, GTA: San Andreas, and Gran Turismo 4. The previous 2 are obviously SD in quality, but you can only expect these comparitively graphics turds to be polished so much by an external device. All played flawlessly.

PSN: Had to do a firmware update to get this working with my AirPort Base Station. Going to the connection summary page was a lifesaver, though should probably be linked (if not displayed to the side or background) on all network connection pages.

PS Store: Kind of meek, but the demos are cool (I have Motorstorm and Genji so far). They need more movie trailers, ASAP. XBL still has a significant advantage here, but everything works good so far. It's just the depth of available content that's lacking.

TheMoose

12-20-06, 12:09 AM

Picked up a 60G today at CC, paid retail & got a $50 gift card!!
Set up was a breeze, it sensed the HDMi connection as soon as it fired up & wireless set up went smooth, downloaded 1.31 update & a couple of demos & movie trailers.
I palyed some scenes from Phantom of the opera & it & the movie trailers looked great!

The only problem I've seen so far is force feedback doesn't work on my DFP with GT4 & damn this thing attracts dust like a magnet!

Dave Mack

12-20-06, 03:54 PM

TheMoose!

Mine comes tomorrow. There are lots of people saying that after the 1.31 update, the PS3 freezes up during BD discs. Keep us updated!

:) d

FiveMillionWays

12-20-06, 03:59 PM

Hmmm, interesting indeed. I was told this by the guy at GS also (nice guy, only reason I go to that/those stores).

Gonna mess with it when I go home, wanna see if it will recognize composite if I disconnect the HDMI, and vice versa.

No it doesn't recognize it if you change cables that way. You have to do a hard reset and then switch it in the settings menu.

TheMoose

12-20-06, 04:16 PM

TheMoose!

Mine comes tomorrow. There are lots of people saying that after the 1.31 update, the PS3 freezes up during BD discs. Keep us updated!

:) d
I haven't had time to watch a whole movie on it yet, I'm at work today but I'll see about watching one tomorrow.

DaverJ

12-20-06, 04:55 PM

I watched a BD with no problems on Friday.

UxiSXRD

12-20-06, 05:07 PM

I've watched 5 BD's, all on 1.31 (Xmen 3, Stealth, Kingdom of Heaven, Black Hawk Down, and Monster House) so far and no freezing.

controller2k

12-21-06, 10:01 AM

TheMoose!

Mine comes tomorrow. There are lots of people saying that after the 1.31 update, the PS3 freezes up during BD discs. Keep us updated!

:) d

I've been playing BD movies with no problems under 1.31.

frokta

12-21-06, 04:48 PM

Well, I just got my PS3 this morning at Circuit City in Culver City. They came up as having PS3's on itrackr.com last night and sure enough they had'em this morning :)

I have a Sammy 6168 DLP TV. I've connected the PS3 using HDMI. I bought Resistance, and 4 blu-ray movies: Corpse Bride, Unforgiven, Good Night and Good Luck, and my wife got that silly Phantom of the Opera nonsense...

Anyhow. I also own a 360 with HD-DVD add on and have a Media Center PC hooked up at 1080p via VGA.

My impressions so far are:

This thing is GREAT!
+ Wow is it quiet!
+ Fantastic BR player!
+ Motostorm is an unbelievabley fun game, I can't wait for the full game.
+ Same goes for F1. I love racing games.
+ Love the UI. I'm not saying it's better than the 360's but it certainly looks more sophisticated.
= Resisance isn't bad. But it is not quite as snazzy looking as Gears Of War on the 360.
- Sony needs to really upgrade their online service. I know it's free, but LIVE is much nicer, even at $50 a year.
- I'd have liked the remote to have been included for $600.

Anyhow, this is a first impression. The impression is good. I really like this console. I wish there were a better selection of games out for it, but I've got plenty of good games on the 360 for the time being anyhow.

thebigdaddye

12-21-06, 10:03 PM

well i received my ps3 (20g) and fall of man game today. i purchased off e-bay with overnight shipping for $530.00 yes 530. i couldn't believe it saved me about 70 dollars compared to retail. i had some trouble at first getting the update ,but then i got everything corrected on my router and it was easy. watched a little bit of talladega nights just to see how good the pic was on my hitachi 57f59 (set at 1080i)and i was impressed. i didn't watch much of it because i had seen it already, but i had know problems playing it for a good 15 minutes. then i tried out my game fall of man. wow this game look pretty darn good and fun for a system release game. i love the wireless controller ,it works flawlessly and i can set on my couch about 8ft away and play. love that i can download my digital pictures on to the ps3 ,but i haven't yet. overall i am very glad that i picked this up. i was going to wait until spring or summer ,but the deal the guy was offering was to good to pass up and i'm am really glad i didn't. i went and rented fight night round 3 and a hockey game and i will play later tonight. i also want to try out some ps2 games on this as well. the one thing i really need to try is hooking the ps3 up via hdmi, but componet looks dam good so i might not will see, plus i have my ps3 hooked up to my surround sound system and the game sound rock in 5.1 digital. well i hope everyone else is enjoying there ps3 as much as me!

RJVR23

12-21-06, 11:10 PM

Hi everyone, got a 60 gb PS3 at Target this past Monday and bought NBA07 and XXX, Ice Age, and Lord of war Blueray discs. I have it connected to a Sammy HL-S6187W via hdmi outputting at 1080p. I also have an X-box 360 and an HD-DVD player add-on all connected via vga. Everything is connected to a Panasonic 5.1 home theater setup.
Impressions:
- What a sexy beast this is! Looks really good with my Sammy 61 coz' both of them have the black glossy finish. I also like the black and white aesthetic it has going on with my Xbox 360.
- I heard this was noisy but my 360 was louder than the PS3.
- NBA07 looks really good outputting at 1080p :)
- Audio output via optical out sounds great.
- Metal Gear solid 3 looks horrible! I can't believe how bad it looks. I have Capcom Classics Collection volumes 1 and 2 and they both look a lot better than MGS 3. I hope future software updates fix this.
- Installed the newest software update (version 1.32) and have not noticed any changes. Anybody know what's different? MGS3 still looks crappy.
- Out of the 3 BD movies, Ice Age looked the best followed by Lord of War and XXX third. Blue Ray looks really good and it really looks compareable to my HD-DVD's.
- Gettin connected online was a breeze using an ethernet cable. Took half an hour to get it to work wireless. I agree with the other poster about the phone style inout. Putting in my WEP key took at least 5 minutes. LOL! I'm getting a 95% signal strength from my Lynksys/Vonage wireless router that's on the second floor of my house.
- Comparing them side by side it took a lot less time downloading files from the online store with the ethernet cable compared to using wireless. I would also only get disconnected from the store when connecting wireless as well.
- It's cool to be able to make 15 second avatars of the videos that you download from the PS3 stores.
- I set up 3 accounts for the playstation stores in the US, Hong-Kong, and Japan to access all their exclusive stuff. Hong-Kong and Japan had the Grand Turismo HD videos and Ridge Racer. Also heard that a demo of GT HD will be available for download on December 24. Yippee!
- For some reason the music in my ipod does not get recognized when connected with a usb cable. Anybody else having problems with this?
- The controller is a featherweight compared with the PS2 controller. ANd I miss the rumble feature too :(
- After I get myself dug out from all this snow (we got hammered pretty bad here in Colorado) I'm going to radioshack and get the usb dongle to try out the PS2 remote and IR sensor on this thing and see how it works. The controller works fine for simple playback controls but I need more functionality.

All in all Im loving the PS3 and can't wait for the great new games to start pouring in.
Have fun everyone,
-Rey

Hughmc

12-21-06, 11:33 PM

I have to say, yesterday was a bit of a downer on this forum, there was so much negativity and talk about the PS3 here and in the press.

I am pleased to hear the last 3 posters first impressions were positive. Glad to hear you like the PS3 and I too am looking forward to more great games. Congrats.

frokta

12-22-06, 12:27 AM

-Follow up after playing with this thing for 6 hours on and off all day-

My wife and I watched "Corpse Bride" on the PS3 today. Holy Moses! Ok, this movie is not exactly my cup of tea. I just don't like musicals at all. But the transfer is so insanely pristine, so vivid, and so razor sharp, it is worth the $20 if just as a disc to show off your home theatre.

Does anyone else with a 360 and the HD-DVD add on suddenly get the impression that the PS3 is handling 3:2 or 2:3 better? The credits of films like "King Kong" on the HD-DVD really seem to stutter, but all my BR movies on the PS3 cruise along much smoother.

The bit stream data and audio output data are genius! I love being able to pull that up, pure dork factor, I love it!

***ALSO***

For those of you interested. You can creat a Japanese sub-account and log in to the Japanese PS3 store to download Japan only demos like RR7. And this weekend, GT-HD. I am glad I downloaded the demo of RR7 because I can be sure to avoid spending the money on it now :rolleyes:

Resistance online multiplayer is spectacular. I was really blown away. 40 people in a massive ruined setting with absolutely crazy weapons and those nutty wind pads, flame throwers and so on... AWESOME!

I played some old PS1 games I had in a CD case. Yeah, looks BAD. But plays very smooth. Which is a good sign. Apparently there is a fix on it's way for the scaling so the odd crunching that is going on will be resolved. But I really wish they would also do some filtering. Some of the old PS1 games are a real blast, not to mention all the great PS2 games!

I am EXTREMELY pleased with this purchase.

Thanks for the congrats Hugmc.