Can anyone help me, I'm having problems eith getting the pio to recognize the 1080p signal or the ps3 to actually push the signal. Can someone tell me what their settings are on their ps3 for allowing their pio recognize the 1080p signal?

All right, i tested all my cables, and they all work fine independently, PS3 direct to TV. My DTV box has no issues sending signal through my HDMI passthrough on my onkyo to my TV. I am just baffled here.

If I do a res reset on my PS3, and change the settings to use the HDMI cable, the pass through works, and I see a nice, obviously sharper image on my screen...up until the next stage of the setup where PS3 goes to auto detect (or in custom set up, when i check the proper boxes and go to the next screen) the resolution. I just get the ol' black screen that seems to be saying my res is not supported, yet I know it is.

Weirdest thing is if I do this over and over (same EXACT way, no change in anything or even the order in which I am doing things) it will SOMETIMES eventually register the PS3 properly and work at 720 and 1080...but it always loses the connection, sometimes after only 5 minutes, sometimes after 5 days. And the material doesn't seem to matter. Games, DVD movies, blu ray, all will work if the connection is working, and all have also lost the signal on me.

This is going to sound weird.. but have you tried disabling all your sound options (namely DD 5.1 and DTS) and then try the video setup again?

In my case, in certain configurations anything but 2-channel linear PCM gives me video issues. When I have my PS3 connected HDMI -> TV, Optical -> Receiver, enabling DD 5.1 / DTS causes the TV to blink. I was recently able to test another PS3 (80GB model) and it exhibits the same behavior. I'm thinking it's either a problem with the PS3 in general (not one faulty unit) or my model of Aquos (LC37D43U).

This is going to sound weird.. but have you tried disabling all your sound options (namely DD 5.1 and DTS) and then try the video setup again?

In my case, in certain configurations anything but 2-channel linear PCM gives me video issues. When I have my PS3 connected HDMI -> TV, Optical -> Receiver, enabling DD 5.1 / DTS causes the TV to blink. I was recently able to test another PS3 (80GB model) and it exhibits the same behavior. I'm thinking it's either a problem with the PS3 in general (not one faulty unit) or my model of Aquos (LC37D43U).

I think (but I could be very wrong, LOL) that the res reset unchecks those anyway and goes to PCM by default--as on the rare occasions when I DO actually get to the audio phase of the set up, I don't believe the DD/DTS boxes are checked. So since the problem often occurs BEFORE I even get to that screen, I don't think that is it.

Worth checking though. Will set it up with the crap AV cables when i get home but uncheck those sound options/make sure they are unchecked , then try the HDMI. Thanks for the input neurosis. :)

hey folks, first time here. now im sure some of you might have already seen this issue, i have a bravia 46" X connected to the 60G ps3 via HDMI. and ocasionally i get the loss of signal for a blink second, the screen goes blank and goes back up. i've had my ps3 for over a year and it probably happened 3times ove rthe period. so i assume it's the hdcp problem? my hdmi cable is decent about $80AUD. are there more of you having the same problem and is there a solution yet? thanks for any reply.

hey folks, first time here. now im sure some of you might have already seen this issue, i have a bravia 46" X connected to the 60G ps3 via HDMI. and ocasionally i get the loss of signal for a blink second, the screen goes blank and goes back up. i've had my ps3 for over a year and it probably happened 3times ove rthe period. so i assume it's the hdcp problem? my hdmi cable is decent about $80AUD. are there more of you having the same problem and is there a solution yet? thanks for any reply.

You can test to see if this an HDCP issue by pulling out the HDMI cable from your tv or ps3 and plug it back in again. If it reacquires the signal cleanly, than that sounds like a HDCP issue. One thing to try is another set of HDMI cables to see if that solves the problem, otherwise you can try and talk to your local Sony support about the issue. I'm not sure either sony tv or ps3 support will be able to do much, but worth a shot.

-Splints

You can test to see if this an HDCP issue by pulling out the HDMI cable from your tv or ps3 and plug it back in again. If it reacquires the signal cleanly, than that sounds like a HDCP issue. One thing to try is another set of HDMI cables to see if that solves the problem, otherwise you can try and talk to your local Sony support about the issue. I'm not sure either sony tv or ps3 support will be able to do much, but worth a shot.

-Splints
i did replug the cable as well as reset the video output setting on the ps3, i havent had any dropouts for half month now.

I'm having a problem on my Infocus projector. I'm connected to my PS3 via hdmi. When I set the PS3 to 720 I have about 20 white vertical lines on the right side of my screen and about 10 horizontal lines across the bottom. The lines aren't scrolling or moving and it looks like menu is off center. 1080i is perfect but when I play Resistance it converts my resolution to 480. Before the last couple firmware updates I could turn my PS3 off and back on and the lines would go away, but not now. Any help is appreciated.

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Anyone else have issues with their picture not displaying until you repeatedly switch inputs?

Setup:

Westinghouse LVM-42w2
PS3 HDMI out to Onkyo
Onkyo 605 HDMI-DVI out into LCD

I turn everything on, and the picture just says "DVI 1" "No signal detected"
The sound works, I can hear the movie start to play

In order to get the picture working, I have to repeated switch inputs on the Onkyo. Sometimes, it will then show a picture but it's all lines, so I disconnect and reconnect the DVI into the LCD, then I turn off and on the onkyo and the picture finally displays :(

Anyone else have issues with their picture not displaying until you repeatedly switch inputs?

Setup:

Westinghouse LVM-42w2
PS3 HDMI out to Onkyo
Onkyo 605 HDMI-DVI out into LCD

I turn everything on, and the picture just says "DVI 1" "No signal detected"
The sound works, I can hear the movie start to play

In order to get the picture working, I have to repeated switch inputs on the Onkyo. Sometimes, it will then show a picture but it's all lines, so I disconnect and reconnect the DVI into the LCD, then I turn off and on the onkyo and the picture finally displays :(

Sounds like HDCP handshaking issue. I would look to replace the HDMI->DVI cable and see if that helps. Then I would also check with Westinghouse to see if there is HDCP issue on DVI.

-Splints

When I set my Ps3 to 24hz and play a blu ray disc like I am legend. the picture on my TV starts to come in and out. it works just fine when i turn it off. I have a mits 67533 which supports 24hz, and a have 1.3a category 2 certified cable.

unrealman - are you direct connected to the mits? If so, it may just be a firmware problem with the tv. Maybe you could find someone over in the mits forum to help. My panny AX-100U projector required a firmware update to correct a 24hz problem that would cause random purple flashes onscreen during playback.

unrealman - are you direct connected to the mits? If so, it may just be a firmware problem with the tv. Maybe you could find someone over in the mits forum to help. My panny AX-100U projector required a firmware update to correct a 24hz problem that would cause random purple flashes onscreen during playback.

This. One of the Samsung TVs did also require a new firmware to fix an issue.

here's what i figure out by putting turn on 24hz on again and putting in I am Legend. The Flashes only happen on the title screen, the speical features screen, before the opening of the movie and on the credits. no flashing occers when the movie it's self starts ( right where the women on the TV start talking) , on the speical feature footage or on the animated comic strips.

Aha. The stuff that is not encoded in 1080p (menus, some extras, trailers...) seems to have it, while the other stuff gets properly decoded/modified to 24hz. So thats what the firmwares must have fixed.

Both my Vizio VU42LF and Vizio GV52FHD 1080p sets look great with the PS3. I pass the signal through a Sony DG810.

Any of you guys have an idea why i would only here the sub on the home screen? PS3 is hooked up to Denon 875 via HDMI. When i am on the home screen i get only bass but once i play a movie or game the audio comes in as normal. I have never had this problem in the past and has only come up after firmware update.

I have tried resting the PS3 to the default setting and still no go?

fix the problem, it turns out the problem was that couldn't properly handel 1080i at 24hz. i found this out after I uncheck 1080i to see if that did anything. it did. with 1080i uncheck the menus in I am Legend are covert to 720p and this stops the flashing.

I've had my PS3 hooked up to my Samsung 4254 via Hdmi in the hdmi 3 slot.I run an optical cable from my samsung 5.1 to the ps3 and have component cables hooked up on the side of the tv in the av ports. Been working fine since may but last night I was about to watch forbidden kingdom on blue ray disc and just as I started the film the picture went to no signal found. I still heard the audio. I tried every thing I knew but the only way I'm able to use the Ps3 is by taking the Hdmi cable out of hdmi3 slot and putting it where I had my samsung 5.1 system plugged. Which is hdmi2 now this tells me it's not the cable since it worked in another port but it is a pain swapping out cables every time you use a different function. I tried holding down the power button to reset the settings but that only works if you can get a picture in the first place. Does anyone know the answer to this I would greatly appreciate it .

why is everyone so concerned that their tv isnt/wont play games at 1080p? i think there is a total of 10 games that actually can be played at 1080p.

believe it has something to do with the blu-ray movies

oh yeah, i got a ps3 this weekend. 80gb, no game included. i was shocked to see it only came with an rca connection! $400 and all they can give me is an RCA!?!?! At least give me a component connection!

Had to wait till sunday to get a cheaper priced HDMI connection though. and lo and behold HDMI didnt work!
I did that hold the power button down for 5 seconds till i get 2 beeps then restart the system but still wasnt working. finally turned off my tv, turned off the ps3 (from the back), made a tasty sandwhich, came back turned on tv, turned on ps3, went out to frys electronics (fountain valley), came back and SURPRISE! hdmi was working. WTF? seems the ps3 is not really plug and play.

oh yeah on the main dashboard i had snow like little flakes but red in color. weird. i swapped the ps3 hdmi with my directv hdmi and finally (about 4 hours from whence i bought the hdmi cable) i was finally getting 1080p.
needless to say i was not impressed by the pain in the a$$ setup.

i am a shame-less xbox fanboy and admit i got this ps3 mainly for its blu-ray playback, however i will withold any more judgements i have against the system, but will look forward for any ps3 exclusives out there.

tv is a sony 52w3000 lcd 1080p. setup is currently without an hdmi pass through receiver but i am going to start to look for one. if anyone can recommend a 5.1 speaker receiver with multi-hdmi inputs and pass through, aux input (3.5mm stereo jack), and a lot of power please let me know! kthx!

it's interesting to see that no matter what brand of HDTV is used the PS3 hookup is still a big pain in the ass. I'm waiting on the answer to the same question dude so good luck.

oh yeah, i got a ps3 this weekend. 80gb, no game included. i was shocked to see it only came with an rca connection! $400 and all they can give me is an RCA!?!?! At least give me a component connection!

Had to wait till sunday to get a cheaper priced HDMI connection though. and lo and behold HDMI didnt work!
I did that hold the power button down for 5 seconds till i get 2 beeps then restart the system but still wasnt working. finally turned off my tv, turned off the ps3 (from the back), made a tasty sandwhich, came back turned on tv, turned on ps3, went out to frys electronics (fountain valley), came back and SURPRISE! hdmi was working. WTF? seems the ps3 is not really plug and play.

oh yeah on the main dashboard i had snow like little flakes but red in color. weird. i swapped the ps3 hdmi with my directv hdmi and finally (about 4 hours from whence i bought the hdmi cable) i was finally getting 1080p.
needless to say i was not impressed by the pain in the a$$ setup.

i am a shame-less xbox fanboy and admit i got this ps3 mainly for its blu-ray playback, however i will withold any more judgements i have against the system, but will look forward for any ps3 exclusives out there.

tv is a sony 52w3000 lcd 1080p. setup is currently without an hdmi pass through receiver but i am going to start to look for one. if anyone can recommend a 5.1 speaker receiver with multi-hdmi inputs and pass through, aux input (3.5mm stereo jack), and a lot of power please let me know! kthx!

Sounds like you had a wonky cable. What brand TV you have?

it's interesting to see that no matter what brand of HDTV is used the PS3 hookup is still a big pain in the ass. I'm waiting on the answer to the same question dude so good luck.


It took me all of 2 minutes to get my PS3 set up correctly with an HDMI cable on the first try. Hardly a pain in the ass.

Originally it only took me 2 minutes to set up my PS3 via hdmi cables back in may. But like I said on the other page after months of no problem my Samsung doesn't see my PS3 in HDMI3 only HDMI2. It could be either the Samsung,HDMI cable,or the PS3. I never said I didn't know how to set it up . This is a new development that just happened the other night.

Sounds like you had a wonky cable. What brand TV you have?

regarding the wonky cable, it is a Nyko "ps3 gaming cable". $30 at Frys. Again with this cable I am now capable of getting 1080p but with red "snow" (looks like dead pixels) all over any black background. however I swapped this cable with my Directv no-name HR22s' hdmi cable and red dots are gone. Solid crystal clear 1080p. And my Directv shows no issues with the nyko cable! Weird.

The TV is a Sony 52W3000 lcd with 1080p inputs (3).

I bet if I would have had the HDMI cable connected before I ever initially setup the PS3 I may not have had this problem. Again the problem is fixed however it must've been some magical elf that came and did it cause I was close to giving up!

Try swapping them again and see if you can replicate the problem.

The HR22 is 1080i only. So if the cable is substandard, then it may be good enough to carry the 1080i (half the bandwidth) but not the 1080p of the PS3. It happens sometimes that a cable is only slightly bad, which allows it to work at 720p or 1080i, but shows artifacts at 1080p. Its been reported earlier in this very thread.

I would recommend returning the Nyko if you still can and get yourself a monoprice $3 HDMI cable.

I have a Samsung LNR40 (2005 era) LCD HDTV

It will not accept HDMI from any Sony device.

Sony HDMI upscaling DVD player - No Signal Detected
Sony PS3 HDMI - No signal detected


Oppo HDMI DVD player - works perfectly every time

Samsung offers Zero support since the TV is discontinued (aren't all TVs discontinued after year 1?) and the board is not USB compat meaning no firmware upgrade.

Basically as an early adopter I got bent over, unless someone has some sound advice?

Man I was just thinking about picking up a PS3 today to go along with my setup so as to play blu ray mostly and maybe MLB the Show but reading just the last two pages of this thread geez. I may still get it but I'll make sure to keep the reciept safe and my 360 handy just in case ;)

Just got GTA4 and need some help with scaling on a Sony xbr 52. The game looks like it is running at 480 rez. The titles and such are sharp but the game itself is not sharp, sort of blurry and jaggy.

What settings should I be using to force 1080p or 1080i?

Just got GTA4 and need some help with scaling on a Sony xbr 52. The game looks like it is running at 480 rez. The titles and such are sharp but the game itself is not sharp, sort of blurry and jaggy.

What settings should I be using to force 1080p or 1080i?

Thats the game. Which is why people have complained high and low about the quality of the graphics and how reviews gave it 10 for graphics when it looks pretty poor.

I have a Toshiba 32HL67U (http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/dvd/product.asp?model=32HL67U) and will be purchasing a PS3 sometime in the near future. Toshiba's website has this listed under my TV: HDMI Input Support 1080p 60/24Hz
Even though the panel resolution is 720p, should I force the PS3 to display 1080p or should I stick with 720p? Will the different options depend solely on my TV's ability to downscale the 1080p signal? Btw, I will be using an HDMI cable from the PS3 to my Toshiba LCD.

I have a Toshiba 32HL67U (http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/dvd/product.asp?model=32HL67U) and will be purchasing a PS3 sometime in the near future. Toshiba's website has this listed under my TV: HDMI Input Support 1080p 60/24Hz
Even though the panel resolution is 720p, should I force the PS3 to display 1080p or should I stick with 720p? Will the different options depend solely on my TV's ability to downscale the 1080p signal? Btw, I will be using an HDMI cable from the PS3 to my Toshiba LCD.

If your TV is 720, forcing PS3 to output in 1080p doesn't really offer anything even if your TV can "accept 1080". The reason being 95% of PS3 games render natively at 720p or less (usually less like GTA4, renders at something like 630p native)

Even PS3 games that "support" 1080p or 1080i, like Uncharted, the developers themselves have stated the game looks better in 720p and the 1080i mode they created was really just a bone for those w/ 1080i/480p old HDTVs

The PS3 simply isnt powerful enough to run many games at 1080p, and BARELY handles 720p . The "1080p 120fps" promise was pure BS snake oil salesmanship.

Olevia 27" LCD HDTV (227V model, 720p/1080i)
Sony PS3 (HDMI)
Xbox 360 (Component)

My PS3 just came in today along with my Monoprice order (HDMI/USB charging/network cables) and I didnt have a problem setting it up with HDMI. I picked manual setup with HDMI and 720p and left the audio settings alone. Put in the sample blu ray disc and played the movie trailers, but the audio was sounding a little funny. Went back to the setup menu and turned on Dolby and now it sounds great

Dont have any full movies or games to test it out with yet, but Iron Man along with the Blu Ray remote will be here on Monday from Amazon and MSG4 is also in the mail from eBay so it'll also be here early next week

Will eventually buy a 42-46" TV and surround sound around Thanksgiving

If your TV is 720, forcing PS3 to output in 1080p doesn't really offer anything even if your TV can "accept 1080". The reason being 95% of PS3 games render natively at 720p or less (usually less like GTA4, renders at something like 630p native)

Even PS3 games that "support" 1080p or 1080i, like Uncharted, the developers themselves have stated the game looks better in 720p and the 1080i mode they created was really just a bone for those w/ 1080i/480p old HDTVs

The PS3 simply isnt powerful enough to run many games at 1080p, and BARELY handles 720p . The "1080p 120fps" promise was pure BS snake oil salesmanship.


Speak for yourself and your system, hexpane. 1080P games look awesome on my system.

If your TV is 720, forcing PS3 to output in 1080p doesn't really offer anything even if your TV can "accept 1080". The reason being 95% of PS3 games render natively at 720p or less (usually less like GTA4, renders at something like 630p native)

Even PS3 games that "support" 1080p or 1080i, like Uncharted, the developers themselves have stated the game looks better in 720p and the 1080i mode they created was really just a bone for those w/ 1080i/480p old HDTVs

The PS3 simply isnt powerful enough to run many games at 1080p, and BARELY handles 720p . The "1080p 120fps" promise was pure BS snake oil salesmanship.

Thanks. I should have clarified though. I actually meant in regards to blu-ray movies, which is my primary reason for getting a PS3. When watching blu-ray movies would it look better if the PS3 is set to 720p or 1080p?

Also, how exactly can I choose whether or not I use 720p or 1080p? I read on sony's website that you can choose the resolutions your TV supports. Should I only select the one resolution I want to use or is there somewhere else that you can change them? Thanks!

Thanks. I should have clarified though. I actually meant in regards to blu-ray movies, which is my primary reason for getting a PS3. When watching blu-ray movies would it look better if the PS3 is set to 720p or 1080p?

Also, how exactly can I choose whether or not I use 720p or 1080p? I read on sony's website that you can choose the resolutions your TV supports. Should I only select the one resolution I want to use or is there somewhere else that you can change them? Thanks!

Well the ps3 is going to run what is possible on your system at its native resolution. So if you go to video settings, you can manually select all the modes available on your tv. If you don't want 720p and the ps3 to upscale, you can uncheck 720p and 1080i and it will output at 1080p for games and videos.

For BD movies, I say 1080p if your tv supports it. That is native for BD. For games most are running 720p natively. So if you have all resolutions checked, BD will play at 1080p. I thin it's easier just to check all available resolutions and let the BD movies run 1080p. As a side note, the ps3 will upscale 480p to 1080p.

I have a 52" tv and I love 1080p, so hex may have is own opinions, but I was quite happy with the ps3 and it's resolutions. Many people forget that out of the 10's of millions of ps3's sold, there are going to be issues. Some of it is user error and others are technical bugs. Enjoy!

-Splints

Well the ps3 is going to run what is possible on your system at its native resolution. So if you go to video settings, you can manually select all the modes available on your tv. If you don't want 720p and the ps3 to upscale, you can uncheck 720p and 1080i and it will output at 1080p for games and videos.

For BD movies, I say 1080p if your tv supports it. That is native for BD. For games most are running 720p natively. So if you have all resolutions checked, BD will play at 1080p. I thin it's easier just to check all available resolutions and let the BD movies run 1080p. As a side note, the ps3 will upscale 480p to 1080p.

I have a 52" tv and I love 1080p, so hex may have is own opinions, but I was quite happy with the ps3 and it's resolutions. Many people forget that out of the 10's of millions of ps3's sold, there are going to be issues. Some of it is user error and others are technical bugs. Enjoy!

-Splints

Awesome. Thanks a lot for that information! I can't wait until I pick up a PS3.

Well the ps3 is going to run what is possible on your system at its native resolution. So if you go to video settings, you can manually select all the modes available on your tv. If you don't want 720p and the ps3 to upscale, you can uncheck 720p and 1080i and it will output at 1080p for games and videos.

For BD movies, I say 1080p if your tv supports it. That is native for BD. For games most are running 720p natively. So if you have all resolutions checked, BD will play at 1080p. I thin it's easier just to check all available resolutions and let the BD movies run 1080p. As a side note, the ps3 will upscale 480p to 1080p.

I have a 52" tv and I love 1080p, so hex may have is own opinions, but I was quite happy with the ps3 and it's resolutions. Many people forget that out of the 10's of millions of ps3's sold, there are going to be issues. Some of it is user error and others are technical bugs. Enjoy!

-Splints

I have my PS3 set on automatic and when I play games that support 1080p the games display in 720P, IF a game does 1080p I have to go into the settings and un check 720p and then it will play in 1080p, this is bull crap, because if I have it set to automatic and I play a game and it supports 1080p it should play in 1080p, thats my sets native resolution.

I have the SOny SXRD 50" full 1080p, KDS 50A2000

Speak for yourself and your system, hexpane. 1080P games look awesome on my system.

What do you mean speak for myself? 95% of PS3 games do not render natively at 1080p, that has nothing to do w/ how awesome your system is.

You can have a 1440p display, that wont change the fact that COD4 renders at 620p, what is your point?

I bought a Samsung 40in A 650 1080 P. Everyone I have talked with said Monster Cables are a rip off. They said I should go to monoprice.com

I'm not sure what cables should I get for my game systems. Should I get the PS3 cables for High Def gaming or what? I'm new to High Def AV gaming. I also have high def Direct tv.

I just picked up two of these HDMI cables (one for my HD-DVR and the other for my future PS3)...

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10243&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3992&seq=1&format=2

I ordered them Saturday afternoon and they were at my door today around 11am. That was with standard shipping. The total came to $13. Those cables are very well constructed. I'm very satisfied with this purchase.

I have my PS3 set on automatic and when I play games that support 1080p the games display in 720P, IF a game does 1080p I have to go into the settings and un check 720p and then it will play in 1080p, this is bull crap, because if I have it set to automatic and I play a game and it supports 1080p it should play in 1080p, thats my sets native resolution.

I have the SOny SXRD 50" full 1080p, KDS 50A2000

Just uncheck 720p and 1080i and you'll be all set, what's the big deal?

-Splints

Just uncheck 720p and 1080i and you'll be all set, what's the big deal?

-Splints

Got a ps3 yesterday. yet set up yet. I also have a 50"a20000-1080p. Should I "check 1080i or keep the settings at automatic. If so- will br movies play at 1080p and games at 1081i? How does a 720p game upscaled to 1081i look?

Finally games like mgs4 can play at 1080p. Is that a manual change each time?

thanks

Got a ps3 yesterday. yet set up yet. I also have a 50"a20000-1080p. Should I "check 1080i or keep the settings at automatic. If so- will br movies play at 1080p and games at 1081i? How does a 720p game upscaled to 1081i look?

Finally games like mgs4 can play at 1080p. Is that a manual change each time?

thanks

Best bet it to set automatic. If the TV accepts everything, then let it show everything. The upscale quality will depend on your TV's abilities.

Some games default to 720, some to 1080i and some to 1080p, and your TV will adjust and display it all right.

Question for you guy's. I have a samsung DLP that is about a year old not sure what model it is because im at work. my problem is that when i watch blu rays from my ps3 the blacks look grainy or blurry. If i put in a regular dvd it gets even worse. Do you think this is a setting issue or a problem with my tv. its a 56" 1080p. thanks in advance.

If you give us a model we may be able to help. Does the TV accept 1080p via HDMI? Component? What are your PS3 settings? Can you take a couple of pictures?

Best bet it to set automatic. If the TV accepts everything, then let it show everything. The upscale quality will depend on your TV's abilities.

Some games default to 720, some to 1080i and some to 1080p, and your TV will adjust and display it all right.

So if I leave everything checked and run a 720p native game and my TV is 1080p native, will the TV upscale the game to 1080p or will the TV display a 720p picture stretched to fill up 1920x1080 space?

So if I leave everything checked and run a 720p native game and my TV is 1080p native, will the TV upscale the game to 1080p or will the TV display a 720p picture stretched to fill up 1920x1080 space?

What you describe as stretching is the upscaling done by the TV. It takes a smaller image and makes it bigger. It applies some algorithms, or at least some TVs do and it makes it look pretty.

The advantage is that by not forcing a certain resolution, the PS3 can choose the developer specified "preferred" resolution and put it through. For example, a game could be at 720p with a 1080i/p compatibility mode. But the developer thinks and prefers 720p, so the PS3 will output 720p and the TV will take care of the rest. If the developer opted to make the 1080p their "preferred" then you get that...

At the end of the day, you are playing the game the way the developers wanted you to by leaving it on auto. Sure there have been some mistakes here and there (the bioshock demo supposedly looks better if you force 720 than if you let it default to 1080i and a couple other demos) but never in a full game and never a significant issue.

The advantage is also that you dont have to switch the resolutions manually all the time on the PS3, and also you dont have to fiddle with it when you play Bluray movies.

So unless your TV does a horrendous job of upscaling, which you can inquire about in the thread for your TV, then auto is the way to go.

If you give us a model we may be able to help. Does the TV accept 1080p via HDMI? Component? What are your PS3 settings? Can you take a couple of pictures?

thank you for the reply. my tv accepts 1080 through an hdmi. i left the setting in the ps3 the way they were but only switched it to hdmi instead of the component plug. i will post some pictures of the way it looks when i get home and get the model number. what should my setting be on the ps3? thanks for your help

Has the 1080i issue been addressed with PS3 games? IIRC, it was up to the developer to support 1080i resolution and if it wasn't supported the game would run in 480p unless you disabled all but the 720p resolution.

I only have a 1080i HDTV and I'm not buying another TV to game on so answering this would greatly help, thanks!

thank you for the reply. my tv accepts 1080 through an hdmi. i left the setting in the ps3 the way they were but only switched it to hdmi instead of the component plug. i will post some pictures of the way it looks when i get home and get the model number. what should my setting be on the ps3? thanks for your help

Does it accept 1080i or 1080p or both? Also, plug up just the HDMI cable between the two, then turn everything off. Turn on TV to appropriate input. Turn on the PS3 by the front button and keep the button presed until you hear a beep, about 5 seconds. It will autodetect settings. Then go through the setup.


Has the 1080i issue been addressed with PS3 games? IIRC, it was up to the developer to support 1080i resolution and if it wasn't supported the game would run in 480p unless you disabled all but the 720p resolution.

I only have a 1080i HDTV and I'm not buying another TV to game on so answering this would greatly help, thanks!

It has not been universally fixed from Sony, but games have stopped supporting only 1 resolution. So devs have fixed it by supporting 1080i and 720p.

Does it accept 1080i or 1080p or both? Also, plug up just the HDMI cable between the two, then turn everything off. Turn on TV to appropriate input. Turn on the PS3 by the front button and keep the button presed until you hear a beep, about 5 seconds. It will autodetect settings. Then go through the setup.




It has not been universally fixed from Sony, but games have stopped supporting only 1 resolution. So devs have fixed it by supporting 1080i and 720p.

it accepts both. right now i dont have it hooked up to my receiver through hdmi it goes straight to my tv. i will try that as soon as i get home. thank you!

Has the 1080i issue been addressed with PS3 games? IIRC, it was up to the developer to support 1080i resolution and if it wasn't supported the game would run in 480p unless you disabled all but the 720p resolution.

I only have a 1080i HDTV and I'm not buying another TV to game on so answering this would greatly help, thanks!

It's all up to the developers.

For instance in Uncharted, they support 1080i/p now. But the developers did that on their own as a nice bone for CRTHDTV owners.

The developers have stated on their blog that the game is meant to be played at 720p and looks best at that resolution.

If only more PS3 games were pretty and nice looking like Uncharted.

What is this about the Bioshock demo defaulting to 1080i?
I tried the demo out and it looks like garbage compared to the PC version, I can't believe all this time porting and we end up w/ a jaggy blurry mess that is even worse looking that the 360 version.

2k PR rep has even gone on record saying the "big daddy texture was an oversite" or some such BS excuse.

Have any of the pixel counters confirmed the native res of Bioshock PS3 demo yet? It looks very GTA4 res to me, I'm going to guess its 640p native, (I dont have a 1to1 mapping 1080p tv so I cant do the counting myself)

But dag even the title screen looks jaggy on the PS3 ... ugh

It's all up to the developers.

For instance in Uncharted, they support 1080i/p now. But the developers did that on their own as a nice bone for CRTHDTV owners.

The developers have stated on their blog that the game is meant to be played at 720p and looks best at that resolution.

If only more PS3 games were pretty and nice looking like Uncharted.

What is this about the Bioshock demo defaulting to 1080i?
I tried the demo out and it looks like garbage compared to the PC version, I can't believe all this time porting and we end up w/ a jaggy blurry mess that is even worse looking that the 360 version.

2k PR rep has even gone on record saying the "big daddy texture was an oversite" or some such BS excuse.

Have any of the pixel counters confirmed the native res of Bioshock PS3 demo yet? It looks very GTA4 res to me, I'm going to guess its 640p native, (I dont have a 1to1 mapping 1080p tv so I cant do the counting myself)

But dag even the title screen looks jaggy on the PS3 ... ugh

Switching it to 720p makes it somewhat better. But its a pretty weak port overall. No question about it. They have a lot of work to do to sell me on the game at full price a year later. At $30 bucks I would buy it, at $60 it better be perfect looking and come with significant added content to have me rebuy it. I played it on PC when it was out... so the "novelty" factor is lost on me as far as the original sory goes.

Switching it to 720p makes it somewhat better. But its a pretty weak port overall. No question about it. They have a lot of work to do to sell me on the game at full price a year later. At $30 bucks I would buy it, at $60 it better be perfect looking and come with significant added content to have me rebuy it. I played it on PC when it was out... so the "novelty" factor is lost on me as far as the original sory goes.

2K has another update on what the issues w/ Bioshock are, they have reposted a new 360vs PS3 side by side. I also played through the demo more last night at 720p

I feel like 90% of it looks great, but some textures are real bad, for instance when you go into aim mode on the revolver the chamber texture is low res and has some really large blocks.

But the 360vsPS3 shots they have posted are pretty close overall.

I also have the PC version and can run it at 1080p on my middle of the road gaming rig and it definitely is way above both console versions.

I'm still getting the PS3 version tho, I feel like the game really is that good and my PC is upstairs on my 24" but my PS3 is on a 40" downstairs in the HT room so I kinda need to play it there ;)

2k has come out and said that the 1080 mode is definitely not as good as the 720 mode, but such is the case for 99% of all PS3/360 games since almost none of them render natively at 1080p except for stuff like Calling all Cars

Do any of you ever experience what almost seems to be a color loss issue? Sometimes the PS3 will seem to loose reds or yellows...with the picture being messed up. Sometime I just have to restart and it is fine, but this happens all the time. Wondering if it's the set, but I think it's the PS3. If you haven't had this problem, have you heard of it or know of a fix anywhere? I've tried using all the display settings for the PS3 and TV and have tried 3 different hdmi cables. I'm using a Panasonic TH-42pz85u and Sony HT-ss2300 receiver w/ hdmi. Any help is appreciated!!

Check out the pics showing the problem!!

So I bought the PS3 (80GB) but I'm having a problem with my monitor.

I'm using a Dell 2405 which supports 1080p (works flawlessly on my X-Box 360). However, it doesn't support HDCP so I thought I had two options:

1) Use component inputs on the monitor.

The monitor displays "Cannot display signal" when I select 1080p on the PS3.

2) Use my X2VGA2 VGA box to convert from component to VGA. This partially works but the display isn't correct. (eg. it's cutting off the right-side of the image) Take a look at the date in the top-right:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/2950347831_261ccdc882.jpg


Can I not use my X2VGA2 with my Dell 2405 to have 1080p? Please say I'm doing something wrong and that I can easily make this work? :(

I would recommend looking into a HDCP stripper box, there are a few third party solutions out there that will probably do the conversion better than the box you used. It's either a misread by the monitor or the box, but I would guess the box as the most likely culprit.

-Splints

So I bought the PS3 (80GB) but I'm having a problem with my monitor.

I'm using a Dell 2405 which supports 1080p (works flawlessly on my X-Box 360). However, it doesn't support HDCP so I thought I had two options:

1) Use component inputs on the monitor.

The monitor displays "Cannot display signal" when I select 1080p on the PS3.

2) Use my X2VGA2 VGA box to convert from component to VGA. This partially works but the display isn't correct. (eg. it's cutting off the right-side of the image) Take a look at the date in the top-right:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/2950347831_261ccdc882.jpg


Can I not use my X2VGA2 with my Dell 2405 to have 1080p? Please say I'm doing something wrong and that I can easily make this work? :(

Newbie, question. Replacing a Kenwood vr-6070 for my ps3. Since the ps3 decodes the true hd & the master can I get away with hdmi 1.1 Looking at Onkyo tx-sr605 or 674 roughly $275 and $200 respectively. A Sony str-dg810 for $130. Also my dlp does have hdmi inputs. Any other receivers in that price range, sub $300. Harmon Kardon avr-347 maybe right at $300. This set up is for gaming, then movies in blu-ray. Advice ?

Do any of you ever experience what almost seems to be a color loss issue? Sometimes the PS3 will seem to loose reds or yellows...with the picture being messed up. Sometime I just have to restart and it is fine, but this happens all the time. Wondering if it's the set, but I think it's the PS3. If you haven't had this problem, have you heard of it or know of a fix anywhere? I've tried using all the display settings for the PS3 and TV and have tried 3 different hdmi cables. I'm using a Panasonic TH-42pz85u and Sony HT-ss2300 receiver w/ hdmi. Any help is appreciated!!

Check out the pics showing the problem!!


I've deteremined it is the receiver. I have a Sony HT-SS2300 and there is nothing wrong with it, just some sort of a compatability issue with the PS3. Someone in another forum has the same problem with a different Sony receiver. You'd think they would get along marvelously...if anyone hears more about this please let me know!

New user here. Glad I found this forum.

I just bought a Samsung LN46A550 LCD TV and am having trouble getting games to play in 1080p. Main game I'm playing now is Top Spin 3 which supports 1080p but it will only output in 720p.

I have the PS3 connected via HDMI to the tv and am at a loss? Any suggestions?

I don't think that is a problem with your TV, it's a PS3 thing. Go to the PS3's video settings and uncheck 720p and 1080i; this forces the game into 1080p.

I don't think that is a problem with your TV, it's a PS3 thing. Go to the PS3's video settings and uncheck 720p and 1080i; this forces the game into 1080p.

Thanks for your quick reply. Tried unchecking 720p and 1080i but instead of displaying the game in 1080p it displays the game in 480. Tried to uncheck 480 but it's greyed out and I can't disable it.

Is there anything else you can suggest?

PS. The PS3's menu displays at 1080p, not sure if that helps in any suggestions, as I'm not sure why the game won't do the 1080p as well. I also double checked and the games does indeed list 1080p as a supported res...

Hm, then I am not sure. Do you know if the firmware is up to date? Looks like the latest one is 9-10-08:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1065523

Thanks Martez. I'll give it a try.

On another note, I notice in this thread lots of speak about "HDCP handshake" and a search for a definition only yields references but no definition. What does this mean? Thanks for your patience.

Thanks Martez. I'll give it a try.

On another note, I notice in this thread lots of speak about "HDCP handshake" and a search for a definition only yields references but no definition. What does this mean? Thanks for your patience.

Dont worry about it your TV can handshake just fine. It essentially is a like a digital signature method where the devices both ends of the cable talk to make sure they are real and neither will pirate that content... Some monitors and cheap TVs dont do this well.

Have you tried resetting the video output settings on the PS3 with the hold the on button til you hear beeps method? And also try any free demo for the following games: Pixeljunk anything, Flow, Virtua Tennis, Lair. They are 100% guaranteed to work in 1080p. If those work at 1080p after you reset your video settings, then all is well and it may be an issue with Virtua Tennis.

Dont worry about it your TV can handshake just fine. It essentially is a like a digital signature method where the devices both ends of the cable talk to make sure they are real and neither will pirate that content... Some monitors and cheap TVs dont do this well.

Have you tried resetting the video output settings on the PS3 with the hold the on button til you hear beeps method? And also try any free demo for the following games: Pixeljunk anything, Flow, Virtua Tennis, Lair. They are 100% guaranteed to work in 1080p. If those work at 1080p after you reset your video settings, then all is well and it may be an issue with Virtua Tennis.

Thanks for hte suggestion, I never thought of trying a 1080p demo. Will do right now and hopefully this will tell me what's going on.

EDIT: Well the demo for Pixeljunk Eden plays at 1080p, so it must be the Top Spin 3 disc. I wonder if Best Buy will exchange it even if its been more than a month since I got it. Thanks for the suggestion andydumi and everyone's elses suggestions.

Hm. So I just got Fifa '09 and, though EA Sports states support up to only 720p, its playing at 1080p. Top Spin 3 that supports 1080p will only play in 720p and Fifa '09 that supports only 720p is playing at 1080p. Something wiht my PS3 must be wonky?!?!

I recently bought a Panasonic Plasma TV and moved my PS3 from my Sony 910 CRT HD TV to the Plasma. I moved the Sony TV to the kid's playroom. The PS3 works fine on the plasma but when I tried to reconnect it to the Sony TV, I get no picture or sound. I've tried connecting it to the Sony CRT with an HDMI to DVI cable, a PS3 component cable and the standard cable that came with the PS3. The PS3 is powering up OK and after moving it back to the Plasma it works fine.

I played with the settings on the PS3 while connected to the plasma to see if that would help. The Sony TV works fine when watching cable tv. I'm convinced its a setting on the PS3 but not sure which one it is. I'm tempted to reset the player but don't want to lose all the settings.

Any suggestions?

My friend is trying to set up his new 80GB PS3 to his Philips 42TA648BX/37 but we hit a major snag. He has it hooked up via HDMI but, despite the fact that his set is a 1080p display, we can't seem to get his PS3 set to anything beyond 480p.

His PS3 is already running on the 2.50 firmware update. The TV sort of seems to recognize that it's receiving a 1080p signal but refuses to output any video and the PS3 simply reverts back to 480p. As you can guess, he doesn't even get to watch BD's on it due to the forced resolution cap.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

My friend is trying to set up his new 80GB PS3 to his Philips 42TA648BX/37 but we hit a major snag. He has it hooked up via HDMI but, despite the fact that his set is a 1080p display, we can't seem to get his PS3 set to anything beyond 480p.

His PS3 is already running on the 2.50 firmware update. The TV sort of seems to recognize that it's receiving a 1080p signal but refuses to output any video and the PS3 simply reverts back to 480p. As you can guess, he doesn't even get to watch BD's on it due to the forced resolution cap.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

What cables is he using? And did you do the video reset on the PS3 once it was hooked up?
1080p will only work via component or HDMI cables.

I recently bought a Panasonic Plasma TV and moved my PS3 from my Sony 910 CRT HD TV to the Plasma. I moved the Sony TV to the kid's playroom. The PS3 works fine on the plasma but when I tried to reconnect it to the Sony TV, I get no picture or sound. I've tried connecting it to the Sony CRT with an HDMI to DVI cable, a PS3 component cable and the standard cable that came with the PS3. The PS3 is powering up OK and after moving it back to the Plasma it works fine.

I played with the settings on the PS3 while connected to the plasma to see if that would help. The Sony TV works fine when watching cable tv. I'm convinced its a setting on the PS3 but not sure which one it is. I'm tempted to reset the player but don't want to lose all the settings.

Any suggestions?

Try connecting the PS3 to the sony TV. Power up the PS3 by touching the I/O on/off button and then hold your finger on it. After a good 10-15 seconds, the PS3 should beat a few times and will reset the settings. This should help you get it working on the Sony TV.

My friend is trying to set up his new 80GB PS3 to his Philips 42TA648BX/37 but we hit a major snag. He has it hooked up via HDMI but, despite the fact that his set is a 1080p display, we can't seem to get his PS3 set to anything beyond 480p.

His PS3 is already running on the 2.50 firmware update. The TV sort of seems to recognize that it's receiving a 1080p signal but refuses to output any video and the PS3 simply reverts back to 480p. As you can guess, he doesn't even get to watch BD's on it due to the forced resolution cap.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Did you go through automatic video detection setup?

We did try the auto-detect and tried to reset the video settings. But it keeps defaulting to 480p and wont output anything beyond that to the set. I think maybe it's the HDMI cable (perhaps it's defective) or, worse, the TV. I tried helping him by following the same procedure I did with my PS3. It should have been a snap for him but it wasn't.

We did try the auto-detect and tried to reset the video settings. But it keeps defaulting to 480p and wont output anything beyond that to the set. I think maybe it's the HDMI cable (perhaps it's defective) or, worse, the TV. I tried helping him by following the same procedure I did with my PS3. It should have been a snap for him but it wasn't.

Try:

1. Another HDMI cable (known working one)
2. All HDMI ports on TV (maybe only 1 port is jacked up)
3. Try PS3 w/ component cables and see if you can get higher than 480p
4. Try the PS3 on another TV (yours maybe) and see if he can get 1080p.

Basically just try to isolate the problem to one piece of hardware if possible.

Improve PS3 Graphics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOsthv5nJQQ)

Is this really true?

Try connecting the PS3 to the sony TV. Power up the PS3 by touching the I/O on/off button and then hold your finger on it. After a good 10-15 seconds, the PS3 should beat a few times and will reset the settings. This should help you get it working on the Sony TV.
Will resetting the settings affect hard drive in any way? There is a lot of stuff stored on it. Don't ask me what's stored there; kids have games saved, etc.

I was hoping to be able to move the PS3 between the 2 TV's without making a big deal out of it. I'd hate to have to restore settings each time we move it.

Improve PS3 Graphics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOsthv5nJQQ)

Is this really true?

It's possible if your tv supports BTB and WTW. It doesn't hurt, try it out and see if you like it or not.

-Splints

Will resetting the settings affect hard drive in any way? There is a lot of stuff stored on it. Don't ask me what's stored there; kids have games saved, etc.

I was hoping to be able to move the PS3 between the 2 TV's without making a big deal out of it. I'd hate to have to restore settings each time we move it.

Don't worry, it won't erase anything, it's just like a "reset settings" kind thing.

All your data will still be there.

Will resetting the settings affect hard drive in any way? There is a lot of stuff stored on it. Don't ask me what's stored there; kids have games saved, etc.

I was hoping to be able to move the PS3 between the 2 TV's without making a big deal out of it. I'd hate to have to restore settings each time we move it.

It wont affect anything other than video setttings. And the settings restore is exaclty for that, a quick way to move it from TV to TV. Thats just the way HDMI works, it can only be paired with one TV at a time. If you were using component, then you would not need the restore feature every time.

It's possible if your tv supports BTB and WTW. It doesn't hurt, try it out and see if you like it or not.

-Splints
But what is BTB and WTW?

But what is BTB and WTW?

Its blacker than black and whiter than white. Full range on RGB is 1-255, or monitor settings, while Limited is 16-235, or what TVs are usually (almost all LCDs and Plasmas). So if you play on a TV or monitor that supports 1-255 then it will lok better. If you play on a TV that does not support 1-255 then it will receive 1-255 but it will compress to 16-235, which means you will lose some black detail and some white detail and see some banding in color gradients.

Ultimately, if your TV supports it, Full is good. But if it does not, then it makes it worse. It may seem better because colors will be brighter, but in reality it will lose color definition.

Ok I have a PS3. I had it hooked up to my TV via HDMI. I remember when hooking it up the PS3 asked me if I wanted the HDMI to be the new way my PS3 to be used. Well I got rid of the TV and until I get my new TV I have the PS3 hooked up to a reg TV with no HDMI. Well now I can't get my PS3 to even show up on the TV. I can't change the PS3 to be hooked up with the regular cables because it's looking for the HDMI.

I hope I'm making sense. If so doews anyone know how to change the PS3 back from HDMI to the reg cables?

TY in advance

I just got a Samsung T260 LCD monitor, and primarily for my PS3. I believe i have set it up correctly, I hooked it up with HDMI cables, and configured my ps3 to 1080p. In PS3 menu my monitor displays full resolution and it looks very good 1900 x 1200 . However when i go into game the resolution drops to 1200 x 768 with 40hz , and looks terrible, just like a standard tv.

Is there any thing i can do to fix this??

Any suggestions?

Ok I have a PS3. I had it hooked up to my TV via HDMI. I remember when hooking it up the PS3 asked me if I wanted the HDMI to be the new way my PS3 to be used. Well I got rid of the TV and until I get my new TV I have the PS3 hooked up to a reg TV with no HDMI. Well now I can't get my PS3 to even show up on the TV. I can't change the PS3 to be hooked up with the regular cables because it's looking for the HDMI.

I hope I'm making sense. If so doews anyone know how to change the PS3 back from HDMI to the reg cables?

TY in advance

Look in the manual.

What you can do is reset the video settings. Hook it up and then turn off the PS3 (standby). THen press the power button the front and hold it down as it turns on, about 5 seconds until you hear a few beeps. Then the video will come on and ask you to redo your video and audio settings.

I just got a Samsung T260 LCD monitor, and primarily for my PS3. I believe i have set it up correctly, I hooked it up with HDMI cables, and configured my ps3 to 1080p. In PS3 menu my monitor displays full resolution and it looks very good 1900 x 1200 . However when i go into game the resolution drops to 1200 x 768 with 40hz , and looks terrible, just like a standard tv.

Is there any thing i can do to fix this??

Any suggestions?

The PS3 outputs whatever resolution the game is in, either 720p or 1080i or 1080p. In this case, your game may be 720p and the monitor displays 720p as 1200x768. There is nothing you can do. The PS3 is designed for TVs, which upscale everything they receive to whatever their native resolution is. The closest thing you may be able to do is set your monitor to upscale/stretch whatever it receives to a full screen image.

Check with some demos of 1080p games and see. For example try Virtua Tennis, Ridge Racer, NBA street homecourt, Pixeljunk games...

But a monitor is not an optimal display. Its not 16:9, its 16:10 aspect ratio.

Hmm, ya I have tried games like Fifa 09, NHL 09, and it just looks terrible, cant even begin to describe it, well pretty much like it would on a 10 year old crappy tv. So something must not be right. In ps3 menu it seems to be in 1080p however in game it goes down to the 460 or whatever.

Hmm, ya I have tried games like Fifa 09, NHL 09, and it just looks terrible, cant even begin to describe it, well pretty much like it would on a 10 year old crappy tv. So something must not be right. In ps3 menu it seems to be in 1080p however in game it goes down to the 460 or whatever.

I would see in the manual for your monitor what resolutions it supports as input.
Here it is:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200805/20080516130934312_BN59-00723B-Eng.pdf

From looking through it quickly, set your monitor "AV Mode" to On, since its not a PC but an AV device. Then use either "Wide" or "Just Scan" under HDMI/DVI Mode.
Then try both a 1080p game like the Pixeljunk games demo. Then try a 720p demo such as Bioshock. And let us know how that worked and what the info screen tells you while you play each of those. Also, if you can take a picture of the "messed up" version we may be able to help more.

I have tried setting it to AV , and to just scan but to no avail.
I am have uploaded pictures of what it looks like on the monitor. Pics werent taken with a great camera but believe me it looks just as bad, and cant be HD.

Not sure what else i should try.

Sharp Aquos LC26D43U:
Works flawlessly. Occasionally when switching between games/XMB I'll get a brief flash of a pink screen, but never any issues when staying at a set resolution. (I assume the pink flash is when the resolution is adjusted between the XMB (1080i) and the games (720p max on some of them), though I could be wrong)

Hi, i have an 80g ps3 hooked up to my toshiba 40rv525u with hdmi cables. when displayed in 1080p i get random white flashes/flickering. 1080i works fine. I tried different cables and changed settings, but still flickers on 1080p. Do you know if this is a ps3 issue or tv? thanks

Do you know if this is a ps3 issue or tv?Sounds like a TV handshake issue..

how do you fix the tv handshake issue? does the ps3 support 1080p? I have it connected directly to the tv, or do u need to update the ps3?

how do you fix the tv handshake issue? does the ps3 support 1080p? I have it connected directly to the tv, or do u need to update the ps3?

The PS3 supports 1080p. It does not need an update. It is the TV that likely has an issue. Same thing happened with Samsung TVs about 3 years ago and they released a firmware flash for the TV to fix the issues. Newer TVs since then have not had issues.

But first try a different HDMI cable.

Also are the flashes during movies/games or while it is switching between XMB/game/movies?

Does anyone know if the PS3 supports Bravia Theater Sync via the Control for HDMI function? This is the feature that sony has put into many devices such as TVs and Receivers to allow them to be controlled by one remote (i.e. if you select dvd on the receiver the TV will turn on and go to the right input and the DVD player will turn on).

I have not found any info if the PS3 will support this.

Thanks.

The PS3 supports 1080p. It does not need an update. It is the TV that likely has an issue. Same thing happened with Samsung TVs about 3 years ago and they released a firmware flash for the TV to fix the issues. Newer TVs since then have not had issues.

But first try a different HDMI cable.

Also are the flashes during movies/games or while it is switching between XMB/game/movies?




Thanks 4 the reply. I just confirmed that it is the tv, because i tried my parents tv (philips 42in) and it works perfectly fine. I also tried different hdmi cables, and it flashes in xmb, games, and movies.

Does anyone know if the PS3 supports Bravia Theater Sync via the Control for HDMI function? This is the feature that sony has put into many devices such as TVs and Receivers to allow them to be controlled by one remote (i.e. if you select dvd on the receiver the TV will turn on and go to the right input and the DVD player will turn on).

I have not found any info if the PS3 will support this.

Thanks.

It does not. The feature is based on HDMI-CEC and it has a variety of names across the brands, Bravia Sync, Samsung Anynet and so forth, evevn though its the same thing.
Some say its a hardware thing that needs to be in there and the PS3 came out before that. Some say its a software thing and it can be updated with it. There is no consensus.

Thanks 4 the reply. I just confirmed that it is the tv, because i tried my parents tv (philips 42in) and it works perfectly fine. I also tried different hdmi cables, and it flashes in xmb, games, and movies.

Glad you figured it out. You can call the TV manufacturer and see what they say, or just return the TV (it seems its a new model). Or you can just use component cables. You can pick up a set of PS2 components for a couple of bucks (they work on the PS3).

I've got my PS3 hooked via HDMI to my Denon 1908. The issue I have is related to audio. I have a 5.1 speaker setup. I get periodic crackling static from the left surround speaker when listening to 5.1 sound. It gets progressively worse. I thought that it was an HDMI cable issue as it seemed to go away when I replaced the cable. But now I'm thinking (after 3 cable swaps) that it may be related to the connection being made either between the the cable and the receirver or the cable and the PS3.

It seems the hdmi cable is poorly designed as it does not make a very tight connection which would lead to this type of problem. Anyone else have a thought on this and/or a possible solution.

Hello

I recently bought PS3 and I am having hard time getting picture with HDMI cabel I have 4 cabels that I have tried on it. My PS3 detect that there is HDMI Cabel but it does not show any picture. I have tried to reset my system holding the power button more then 5s.

My tv model is Samsung LE32S81B

I have tried my PS3 on another tv and it worked on there. I have my Tv connected to my computer with HDMI/DVI cabel and I get picture on it and I have tried dvdplayer that uses HDMI and I get picture there too.

I have followed the guide on Sony website more then once and I have even formatted the PS3 the short and the 5h long one :P


Called both Sony and Samsung and both are telling me that there is nothing wrong with their products. I am using now Component cable but I am not satisfied with the picture have you seen this problem before? My tv and PS3 does not seem to like each other.

Hello

I recently bought PS3 and I am having hard time getting picture with HDMI cabel I have 4 cabels that I have tried on it. My PS3 detect that there is HDMI Cabel but it does not show any picture. I have tried to reset my system holding the power button more then 5s.

My tv model is Samsung LE32S81B

I have tried my PS3 on another tv and it worked on there. I have my Tv connected to my computer with HDMI/DVI cabel and I get picture on it and I have tried dvdplayer that uses HDMI and I get picture there too.

I have followed the guide on Sony website more then once and I have even formatted the PS3 the short and the 5h long one :P


Called both Sony and Samsung and both are telling me that there is nothing wrong with their products. I am using now Component cable but I am not satisfied with the picture have you seen this problem before? My tv and PS3 does not seem to like each other.

It makes me think the HDCP handshake is failing. Since your tv is 720p, the quality between HDMI and Component should be the same. Component can do up to 1080p.

Can you describe what looks poor about the picture?

If you have an option, return the ps3 and try another one to see how it performs. You might also want to try another HDMI player (got a DVD or cable/satellite box w/ HDMI out?) to see if the inputs on the tv work ok or not.

-Splints

It makes me think the HDCP handshake is failing. Since your tv is 720p, the quality between HDMI and Component should be the same. Component can do up to 1080p.

Can you describe what looks poor about the picture?

If you have an option, return the ps3 and try another one to see how it performs. You might also want to try another HDMI player (got a DVD or cable/satellite box w/ HDMI out?) to see if the inputs on the tv work ok or not.

-Splints

The picture is not bad but I know that it can be better. I took my ps3 to my friends house and it looked better with HDMI there. I have had the console for a month if I want to return it I need to have a valid reason I need to prove that something is wrong with my PS3. I only have dvdplayer that uses HDMI and my computer and both are working. I will try to borrow my friends PS3 and see if it works with my tv.
Is there a solution for HDCP handshake failing?

The picture is not bad but I know that it can be better. I took my ps3 to my friends house and it looked better with HDMI there. I have had the console for a month if I want to return it I need to have a valid reason I need to prove that something is wrong with my PS3. I only have dvdplayer that uses HDMI and my computer and both are working. I will try to borrow my friends PS3 and see if it works with my tv.
Is there a solution for HDCP handshake failing?

Is your friend's tv 1080p or also a 720p? I've seen 1080p component (game) and it is very hard to tell the difference between HDMI and component at 1080p, so the input shouldn't matter, but you might want to calibrate your tv and verify the right video settings are set for your tv. I think there is a small 720 -> 768 verticial conversion that I wonder might be badly scaling on your tv or not.

The HDCP handshake failure can be sometimes solved by unplugging and replugging the Hdmi connection to restart the handshake. As for returning the ps3, tell the store that you can't get it to work with your tv and everything else is working on your tv. That should allow for a straight-up exchange. Back-up your tv if you have ps3 data stored.

-Splints

Is there a solution for HDCP handshake failing?



try this.. 1ST turn on your PS3 by inserting a disc... then turn off your display completely.Then turn on your display..you should see one handshake flicker then your good to go..hope this helps:D

sometimes it takes 2 or 3 times.. but it works for me everytime


remember turn on the players 1st

Quick question for you guys my Olevia LCD can display 1081i max. I have heard that I may get a better picture using 720p rather than 1080i is this true? Now if I set my PS3 to display only 720P will that affect my blu-ray settings also. The rumor was setting the ps3 to 720p downscales blu-ray down from 720P. If I am better of keeping the system to 1080i for better blu-ray picture than so be it my main concern is the downgrading for blu-rays movies.

Quick question for you guys my Olevia LCD can display 1081i max. I have heard that I may get a better picture using 720p rather than 1080i is this true? Now if I set my PS3 to display only 720P will that affect my blu-ray settings also. The rumor was setting the ps3 to 720p downscales blu-ray down from 720P. If I am better of keeping the system to 1080i for better blu-ray picture than so be it my main concern is the downgrading for blu-rays movies.

It really depends on your screen size and how far you sit from your tv. 720p is better for fast moving sequences, and 1080i would look better on frames that have very little movement (movie dialogue sequences). It is true that if you select 720p everything will be shown at 720p at max, but you can always switch that in the video settings if you feel that you want the full resolution possible.

Personally I would recommend you try both on a fast action movie with panning and see what works best. If you have a very good 3:2 pulldown (24fps to 60fps conversion) it may be worth staying at 1080i, but most tv's don't seem to be very good at this without paying for the highest end models of each name brand. Try it out and see what you think visually that would be your best bet.

-Splints

Hello everyone.

I was hoping to get some help on a few things regarding a new TV that goes great with the PS3.

What's some general advice and what should I look out for (brand, specific features, etc) and what should I avoid?

1080p/i or 720p/i? I know very little about what the numbers mean.

Yeah I'm a big time noob when it comes to all that. I don't watch any TV shows at all, and just prefer to watch DVD's (Blu ray) and play games. (Will get the PS3 very soon, currently have a Wii)

I read somwhere that 27inch isn't the way to go if I wanted to experience the HD or Bluray look of a movie or something like that, only 32 and up. I could have been mistaken also in having read that wrong.

I was also told that CRT is much better than LCD.

The price range I am willing to spend is 600 to 800.

I'd appreciate any advice, thank you.

Sorry, please disregard my other post, since at the time of that writing, my dad "Surprised" me with the TV (Gift) and brought it over.

It really depends on your screen size and how far you sit from your tv. 720p is better for fast moving sequences, and 1080i would look better on frames that have very little movement (movie dialogue sequences). It is true that if you select 720p everything will be shown at 720p at max, but you can always switch that in the video settings if you feel that you want the full resolution possible.

Personally I would recommend you try both on a fast action movie with panning and see what works best. If you have a very good 3:2 pulldown (24fps to 60fps conversion) it may be worth staying at 1080i, but most tv's don't seem to be very good at this without paying for the highest end models of each name brand. Try it out and see what you think visually that would be your best bet.

-Splints

Ok gotcha my main concern is if I select 720p the PS3 downgrades it to 480 or something which is the rumor I heard. The games look better on 720p than 1080i in my opinion but I def want the best output for my blu-rays. I'm gonna upgrade my set to a 46 inch 1080p 120hz samsung in a few days but for me meantime I will test the setting on some disks and see what the results will be. Thanks for the quick reply Splints.................Ed

I wanted to know if I have to buy a pair of different cables so that the quality isn't so terrible on my PS3? I have a Toshiba HDTV LCD 40rv52U 40 inch and when I played a movie everything came out distorted, with choppy frames (It was the Dark Knight). When I tried another DVD, it was the same.

What do I need to do so I can watch it without having these problems? Is it something I have to do with the setting within the TV and PS3? Is it a different pair of cables I have to invest in?

Hi Winko

Did you get this fixed at all? I have the same problem with a brand new Sony 46" w4500 TV ( KDL46W4500 ) (random white flashes/flickering in 1080p - picture perfect in 1080i and below). :(

Ouchies


Hi, i have an 80g ps3 hooked up to my toshiba 40rv525u with hdmi cables. when displayed in 1080p i get random white flashes/flickering. 1080i works fine. I tried different cables and changed settings, but still flickers on 1080p. Do you know if this is a ps3 issue or tv? thanks

Thanks 4 the reply. I just confirmed that it is the tv, because i tried my parents tv (philips 42in) and it works perfectly fine. I also tried different hdmi cables, and it flashes in xmb, games, and movies.

Hi.

Solved! Anyone that has a problem with random white flashes/flickering only in 1080p with devices connected by HDMI, try changing the cable. My PS3 cable was brand new and same type as the brand new cable connecting my HD/DVD player. When I swapped cables after two days of trying everything else, the problem migrated to the HD/DVD player and finally had full 1080p working properly between PS3 and TV. Stayed the same when I swapped HDMI inputs on the TV. The cable seems to be the problem. I hope this saves someone else some hassle.

Ouchies

Hello

I recently bought PS3 and I am having hard time getting picture with HDMI cabel I have 4 cabels that I have tried on it. My PS3 detect that there is HDMI Cabel but it does not show any picture. I have tried to reset my system holding the power button more then 5s. My tv model is Samsung LE32S81B

Feronte, this could also be due to the TV incorrectly sending 5 volts back to the PS3. I see a lot of displays that do not adhere to the HDMI spec in that they don't diode block the +5v from pin 18 of the connector.
The HDMI spec allows for the source player to send 5v to the display's EEPROM. This will allow the player to power and receive the data required during handshaking from the display, even if the display is off.
When this 5v is not blocked from returning to the player the usual result is no picture but audio is present. Sadly, much like USB, HDMI specs are nothing more than guidelines for manufacturers. Not everyone follows these to the letter.
On a unrelated note: I've sent 1080p video and 5.1 audio over DVI cables.
Unfortunately no HDTV's I've seen will decode audio via the DVI input.
I have no idea why they neglected this minor detail. Seeing as it cost a $15K licensing fee just to use the HDMI name it would have been a cost effective way to provide digital video & audio without incurring the burden of lic fees.
For you techies here's a more in depth write up from a related product:
http://www.calmicro.com/applications/customer/downloads/20050529-Mediaguard-EEPROM-Options.pdf

Ward216: I'm not a very technical person so it means that I am screwed?

Is your friend's tv 1080p or also a 720p? I've seen 1080p component (game) and it is very hard to tell the difference between HDMI and component at 1080p, so the input shouldn't matter, but you might want to calibrate your tv and verify the right video settings are set for your tv. I think there is a small 720 -> 768 verticial conversion that I wonder might be badly scaling on your tv or not.

The HDCP handshake failure can be sometimes solved by unplugging and replugging the Hdmi connection to restart the handshake. As for returning the ps3, tell the store that you can't get it to work with your tv and everything else is working on your tv. That should allow for a straight-up exchange. Back-up your tv if you have ps3 data stored.

-Splints

My friends tv is LG 32LC51. I think that it upscale the picture to 1080p and it looked much better then on my tv. About vertical conversion it is something that I cant change. The store is online so it might be little annoying to send them and then they try on their tv and it works there. It seems to be my only option.

Ok gotcha my main concern is if I select 720p the PS3 downgrades it to 480 or something which is the rumor I heard. The games look better on 720p than 1080i in my opinion but I def want the best output for my blu-rays. I'm gonna upgrade my set to a 46 inch 1080p 120hz samsung in a few days but for me meantime I will test the setting on some disks and see what the results will be. Thanks for the quick reply Splints.................Ed

the 480p downgrade was an older issue solved by firmware updates. 720p will be consistent across games and movies.

For movies, you can switch to 1080i output and switch back to 720p for games as your best coverage. If your going for a 1080p 120hz tv, this will be a decent workaround.

Good luck!

-Splints

I wanted to know if I have to buy a pair of different cables so that the quality isn't so terrible on my PS3? I have a Toshiba HDTV LCD 40rv52U 40 inch and when I played a movie everything came out distorted, with choppy frames (It was the Dark Knight). When I tried another DVD, it was the same.

What do I need to do so I can watch it without having these problems? Is it something I have to do with the setting within the TV and PS3? Is it a different pair of cables I have to invest in?

Yes, get a HDMI or ps3 component cables from monoprice. You can only do 480p with the standard RCA cables that come with the ps3.

-Splints

My friends tv is LG 32LC51. I think that it upscale the picture to 1080p and it looked much better then on my tv. About vertical conversion it is something that I cant change. The store is online so it might be little annoying to send them and then they try on their tv and it works there. It seems to be my only option.

Ok, so I think we should start from the beginning. How have you configured your ps3 for output? Did you go to the video settings menu and select all the usable options?

If you bought from an online store, bring the ps3 to another buddies house and see if it works out. If it does, then I would say that your tv isn't working as well.

Your other option is to buy a ps3 from a local store and try it out. If it also doesn't work then you know it's the tv. Return the ps3 for a full refund in 30 days or less. If the new ps3 works, then return your old and ask for a replacement.

-Splints

Ok, so I think we should start from the beginning. How have you configured your ps3 for output? Did you go to the video settings menu and select all the usable options?

If you bought from an online store, bring the ps3 to another buddies house and see if it works out. If it does, then I would say that your tv isn't working as well.

Your other option is to buy a ps3 from a local store and try it out. If it also doesn't work then you know it's the tv. Return the ps3 for a full refund in 30 days or less. If the new ps3 works, then return your old and ask for a replacement.

-Splints

I have tried my Ps3 on my friends tv and it worked there. The last thing I will try before sending my ps3 is to try his Ps3 on my tv and see if it works. Then I can be for sure. Thanks

I would like to say that the Westinghouse W3213 from Black Friday at Best Buy a couple years ago works just fine via HDMI. Only up to 1080i since that is what the TV supports. I find switching resolutions to give annoying static (in both video and audio) while it switches, but no problems otherwise.

Yes, get a HDMI or ps3 component cables from monoprice. You can only do 480p with the standard RCA cables that come with the ps3.

-Splints

Hi, i have an 80g ps3 hooked up to my toshiba 40rv525u with hdmi cables. when displayed in 1080p i get random white flashes/flickering. 1080i works fine. I tried different cables and changed settings, but still flickers on 1080p. Do you know if this is a ps3 issue or tv? thanks

The PS3 supports 1080p. It does not need an update. It is the TV that likely has an issue. Same thing happened with Samsung TVs about 3 years ago and they released a firmware flash for the TV to fix the issues. Newer TVs since then have not had issues.

But first try a different HDMI cable.

Also are the flashes during movies/games or while it is switching between XMB/game/movies?

Hi.

Solved! Anyone that has a problem with random white flashes/flickering only in 1080p with devices connected by HDMI, try changing the cable. My PS3 cable was brand new and same type as the brand new cable connecting my HD/DVD player. When I swapped cables after two days of trying everything else, the problem migrated to the HD/DVD player and finally had full 1080p working properly between PS3 and TV. Stayed the same when I swapped HDMI inputs on the TV. The cable seems to be the problem. I hope this saves someone else some hassle.

Ouchies


Whoa, thank you Splints for the reply. I actually ended up getting an HDMI cable and it solved the problem for the BR movies. It was Dynex though.

However, and man, what a coincidence, Ouchies and Winks have bascially brought up my new problem.

I'm just a little confused on what to do exactly. When I play MGS4, the white flicker goes crazy at times and others not so crazy. Also, the screen fades into nothing but black for a few seconds but comes back on shortly afterwards.

From there I decided to try another game (Since I thought MGS4 was the issue), and it was GTA4, which I had no problems with at all.

The 3rd game I tried was Street Fighter HD remix. That game has the white flicker AND it fades into black for a few seconds but comes back on shortly afterwards.

The PS3 main menu also has the flicker. I was going to return the PS3 but after reading some posts that had the same issue as me, I figured I'd hold off for a moment. The only difference between Ouch and Wink is how my screen fades to black. Could it really be the TV or should I try another cable?

Check with your TV manufacturer to make sure you have the latest firmware. Lots of tv claim 1080p compatability well before there was anything to verify with.

-Splints

What is Firmware? Sorry, I'm still trying to learn all the things that involve HD, PS3, and anything else electronics.

F/W is the OS that runs the PS3.

What is Firmware? Sorry, I'm still trying to learn all the things that involve HD, PS3, and anything else electronics.

Firmware is software stored in your component (TV, PS3..) memory chip that is eraseable. Updating firmware is erasing the chip and loading new software. The reasons to update firmware is correct problems like bugs and to add new features.

Firmware is software stored in your component (TV, PS3..) memory chip that is eraseable. Updating firmware is erasing the chip and loading new software. The reasons to update firmware is correct problems like bugs and to add new features.

Ah, I see. Thank you for that. I ended up updating the PS3 but that did not work. You said I can do that to my TV as well?

Ward216: I'm not a very technical person so it means that I am screwed?

Most likely I'm sorry to say. At least it is still usable with component video cables.

The PS3 main menu also has the flicker. I was going to return the PS3 but after reading some posts that had the same issue as me, I figured I'd hold off for a moment.

Any chance you may have disabled all resolutions in the PS3 except 1080p? Thereby forcing the PS3 to output 1080p video only regardless of the source material.

I just got a PS3 but I haven't hooked it up yet. I have a 1080i ONLY TV (an early model Panasonic plasma) with one HDMI port. My receiver (a Harmon Kardon) does not have any HDMI ports. I am already learning that I am screwed when it comes to games like LittleBigPlanet and Hot Shots Golf that output in 720p only since the PS3 does not have an internal scaler like the Xbox 360. What is the best way to set up the PS3?

I can either go:

1. component (PS3 to component switcher) + optical to my receiver OR
2. HDMI (PS3 to TV directly) + optical to my receiver

Until I upgrade my TV, I will be using the PS3 to primarily watch Blu-ray movies and play games that are PS3 exclusive and support 1080i (all 5 of them). I have an Xbox 360 that I use to watch standard DVDs but the upscaling feature of the PS3 intrigues me (which I guess requires the HDMI connection). The other issue is that my TV hangs on the wall and the only access to the HDMI port would require a LOT of work to get the cable run properly (out the back of the TV and behind the wall).

Any thoughts/suggestions?

Thanks!

I just got a PS3 but I haven't hooked it up yet. I have a 1080i ONLY TV (an early model Panasonic plasma) with one HDMI port. My receiver (a Harmon Kardon) does not have any HDMI ports. I am already learning that I am screwed when it comes to games like LittleBigPlanet and Hot Shots Golf that output in 720p only since the PS3 does not have an internal scaler like the Xbox 360. What is the best way to set up the PS3?

I can either go:

1. component (PS3 to component switcher) + optical to my receiver OR
2. HDMI (PS3 to TV directly) + optical to my receiver

Until I upgrade my TV, I will be using the PS3 to primarily watch Blu-ray movies and play games that are PS3 exclusive and support 1080i (all 5 of them). I have an Xbox 360 that I use to watch standard DVDs but the upscaling feature of the PS3 intrigues me (which I guess requires the HDMI connection). The other issue is that my TV hangs on the wall and the only access to the HDMI port would require a LOT of work to get the cable run properly (out the back of the TV and behind the wall).

Any thoughts/suggestions?

Thanks!

I would recommend going with the HDMI/optical route. You can use the HDMI run in the wall for future expansion when you get a replacement tv and AVR. If you plan on staying where you are for 3+ years then doing the work now would be worth it.

Also the ps3 can scale beyond 720p to 1080i now, this was a limitation of the intial firmware releases but works fine now from what others on the board are posting.

-Splints

Thanks for the advice. I think I want to go HDMI but I'm going to wait at least until I get a receiver that can upscale a video signal to 1080i for my TV. For now I went component and optical. I highly doubt I'll be in my current house more than another 18 months so unless that changes I'm going to leave it as is for now...

I also tried playing Hot Shots Golf and all I can get is 480p. Pathetic. Uncharted and MGS4 look great (there is a lot of screen tearing while playing Uncharted though).

Thanks for the advice. I think I want to go HDMI but I'm going to wait at least until I get a receiver that can upscale a video signal to 1080i for my TV. For now I went component and optical. I highly doubt I'll be in my current house more than another 18 months so unless that changes I'm going to leave it as is for now...

I also tried playing Hot Shots Golf and all I can get is 480p. Pathetic. Uncharted and MGS4 look great (there is a lot of screen tearing while playing Uncharted though).

Good thing is that no new release games have that issue anymore it seems.

What's the advantage of running HDMI+optical, instead of just HDMI?

What's the advantage of running HDMI+optical, instead of just HDMI?

Some receivers don't take audio via HDMI, so for those you need optical. That's about it. Otherwise, 7.1 can only be carried via HDMI, so its much better from that respect.

"Also the ps3 can scale beyond 720p to 1080i now, this was a limitation of the intial firmware releases but works fine now from what others on the board are posting."

When you say this, are you talking about games (movies play fine at 1080i)? I have mine updated to 2.53 (component connection, would make an HDMI connection but then I wouldn't get any sound, tv has DVI) but I still am not able to get it to output at 1080i, only 480P. If I deselect 480P, then it outputs at 480i which is pretty bad (can't get it to deselect 480i).

Will the PS3 output games at 1080i or not, or am I doing something wrong?

"Also the ps3 can scale beyond 720p to 1080i now, this was a limitation of the intial firmware releases but works fine now from what others on the board are posting."

When you say this, are you talking about games (movies play fine at 1080i)? I have mine updated to 2.53 (component connection, would make an HDMI connection but then I wouldn't get any sound, tv has DVI) but I still am not able to get it to output at 1080i, only 480P. If I deselect 480P, then it outputs at 480i which is pretty bad (can't get it to deselect 480i).

Will the PS3 output games at 1080i or not, or am I doing something wrong?

Hmm, did a quick search and didn't find anything. I thought there was a release that did the 1080i scaling if you deselected 720p, but can't find it now. Maybe someone else can help.

-Splints

This may have been addressed previously, but I didn't see it...

Assuming you've got your PS3 hooked up to your 1080p TV with an HDMI cable, what resolutions do you enable in the display settings?

I have everything unchecked except for 1080p. It seems like when I have all resolutions selected, I get stuck with 720p and 1080i for games/blurays that don't support 1080p. Am I the only one who does this? And if anyone knows better, is there any benefit of me having all resolutions supported instead of just 1080p?

I've got a Panasonic 46PZ85U. I prefer having everything at 1080p b/c my TV has 2 'Size' options that give me either 95% or 100% of the picture displayed. So basically, when 1080p is running, I pick the 100% option and I utilize every single pixel of the 1080p resolution without any picture loss, if that makes sense to you. If I get a 720 signal I have noise along the edge of my screen and I have to change to the other Size option which causes me to lose 5% of the picture.

This may have been addressed previously, but I didn't see it...

Assuming you've got your PS3 hooked up to your 1080p TV with an HDMI cable, what resolutions do you enable in the display settings?

I have everything unchecked except for 1080p. It seems like when I have all resolutions selected, I get stuck with 720p and 1080i for games/blurays that don't support 1080p. Am I the only one who does this? And if anyone knows better, is there any benefit of me having all resolutions supported instead of just 1080p?

I've got a Panasonic 46PZ85U. I prefer having everything at 1080p b/c my TV has 2 'Size' options that give me either 95% or 100% of the picture displayed. So basically, when 1080p is running, I pick the 100% option and I utilize every single pixel of the 1080p resolution without any picture loss, if that makes sense to you. If I get a 720 signal I have noise along the edge of my screen and I have to change to the other Size option which causes me to lose 5% of the picture.
Forgive me if this is the wrong area to post this,

but I'm looking at the same TV as you Panny 46PZ85u to use with my PS3
I'll be using this strictly for movies and games.

Have you had any issues with it?

Experienced any Lag?


I've been doing research on comparing the Panasonic Plasmas to the Samsung 650 series LCD and there is a ton of info on LCDs lagging but nothing on the Panasonics.

Thanks a ton!

Forgive me if this is the wrong area to post this,

but I'm looking at the same TV as you Panny 46PZ85u to use with my PS3
I'll be using this strictly for movies and games.

Have you had any issues with it?

Experienced any Lag?


I've been doing research on comparing the Panasonic Plasmas to the Samsung 650 series LCD and there is a ton of info on LCDs lagging but nothing on the Panasonics.

Thanks a ton!


There is zero lag or motion blur, which is what I assume you're referring to. The 650s are really nice, but you're going to have a little blur with it b/c it's an LCD. It's got the 120hz technology, but I'm not a huge fan of how it looks with TV and movies...works really well for games though.

I'm really happy with the 85U. Amazing picture quality, especially with bluray and PS3. HD DirecTV looks really great. Terrific black levels too..little better than the 650. The only thing you have to be careful with, especially early on, is image retention (burn in). I haven't really had an issue with it though. There's a calibration and an owner's thread specifically for the 85U on this site. There's a lot of good help over there if you decide to buy it or want more info...break in settings, calibration advice, FAQs, etc.

You'd probably be happy with either TV. Just need to decide if you want LCD or Plasma. The Panasonic will glare a little more if you've got windows or bright lights. If you've got a dark room though, I'd go with the plasma. More natural and realistic picture IMO.

Incase you were asking about lag in video games, like rock band or something, I haven't had any lag while playing any games.

This may have been addressed previously, but I didn't see it...

Assuming you've got your PS3 hooked up to your 1080p TV with an HDMI cable, what resolutions do you enable in the display settings?

I have everything unchecked except for 1080p. It seems like when I have all resolutions selected, I get stuck with 720p and 1080i for games/blurays that don't support 1080p. Am I the only one who does this? And if anyone knows better, is there any benefit of me having all resolutions supported instead of just 1080p?

I've got a Panasonic 46PZ85U. I prefer having everything at 1080p b/c my TV has 2 'Size' options that give me either 95% or 100% of the picture displayed. So basically, when 1080p is running, I pick the 100% option and I utilize every single pixel of the 1080p resolution without any picture loss, if that makes sense to you. If I get a 720 signal I have noise along the edge of my screen and I have to change to the other Size option which causes me to lose 5% of the picture.
Hi $mitty,
I think you've answered your own question. Given that your tv is a 1920 x 1080 native panel, any signal sent to it that's not 1080 will be scaled by the tv. So it's simply a matter of what device you prefer to perform this scaling. I'm with you in that I prefer to hard code my PS3 to output 1080p to my Panny plasma & after much flip flopping I settled on 1080i from my DirecTV HR700 DVR. Again, like yourself I don't care for the 5% over scan.

Hi, i might be getting one of the New Panasonic S1 or G10 2009' Plasmas, and i was wondering...The only things out there that support 1080p are Bluray Movies and a few PS3/360 games...Now what i'm wondering is, since the PS3 'supports' 1080p, will 720p games(which 90% of PS3/360 games are) look just as good as they're supposed to when upscaled to 1080p on a 1080p display?...or will the image look inferior because of the upscaling to 1080p, not to mention will it take a hit in performance?......Those are the only 2 things i'm worried about.

Does or will the XMB support 720P?

My buddy has a 720p hdtv(got it for killzone2) and the XMB looks soft and not sharp on 720p, but he

switches to 1080i and it looks sharp but it has that FLICKER effect you expect from interlace.

So should he keep it at 1080i which does look very sharp but has flicker

or 720p where it looks soft and has no flicker????

Hi, i might be getting one of the New Panasonic S1 or G10 2009' Plasmas, and i was wondering...The only things out there that support 1080p are Bluray Movies and a few PS3/360 games...Now what i'm wondering is, since the PS3 'supports' 1080p, will 720p games(which 90% of PS3/360 games are) look just as good as they're supposed to when upscaled to 1080p on a 1080p display?...or will the image look inferior because of the upscaling to 1080p, not to mention will it take a hit in performance?......Those are the only 2 things i'm worried about.

1080p or 720p doesn't matter as much as much as how well the game maker utilizes the graphics engine. Games look great on large screens (I've heard 120" screens here) as many projector gamers here can attest to. Upscaling doesn't do much to an image as you would imagine, if a game is well designed it will look great at 720p.

What size tv are you looking at?

-Splints

Does or will the XMB support 720P?

My buddy has a 720p hdtv(got it for killzone2) and the XMB looks soft and not sharp on 720p, but he

switches to 1080i and it looks sharp but it has that FLICKER effect you expect from interlace.

So should he keep it at 1080i which does look very sharp but has flicker

or 720p where it looks soft and has no flicker????

What tv is it and does it have 1:1 pixel mapping mode (instead of movie or standard modes)? Visually 720p/1080i/1080p all look great. The flicker should not happen if you have a good de-interlacer to 1080p. The problem with a 720p tv is that it will usually take a 1080i signal, de-interlace it to 1080p and then downscale it to 720p. That much scaling can ruin an image if the tv video processor isn't a top notch one.

-Splints

1080p or 720p doesn't matter as much as much as how well the game maker utilizes the graphics engine. Games look great on large screens (I've heard 120" screens here) as many projector gamers here can attest to. Upscaling doesn't do much to an image as you would imagine, if a game is well designed it will look great at 720p.

What size tv are you looking at?

-Splints

I'm lookig at a 42" 1080p G10 Plasma. It offers THX for accurate color, 40,000:1 Native CR, very deep blacks, Uses half the electricity of a traditional Plasma and apperantly offers 1080 full lines of motion resolution. They'll be coming out around March this year.

Anyways, I've heard people saying that the PS3 has a crappy upscaler when games are upscaled to 1080p, not to mention some people have been saying that the performance takes a hit from 60 framers per second down to 30....Honestly, i wish they actually made 1280x720p HDTVS instead of those 'Fixed' displays running at 1366x766 and 1024x766....which result in streching the image, upscaling and downscaling.....I dont know why they make fixed displays, its retarted.

Also, i have a feeling the Wii will look and play totaly inferior on a 1080p plasma, when compared to an SDTV. Apperantly, when Wii games are set to widescreen the image looks softer for some wierd reason, but at least with an HDTV or EDTV you'd get progressive

I'm lookig at a 42" 1080p G10 Plasma. It offers THX for accurate color, 40,000:1 Native CR, very deep blacks, Uses half the electricity of a traditional Plasma and apperantly offers 1080 full lines of motion resolution. They'll be coming out around March this year.

Anyways, I've heard people saying that the PS3 has a crappy upscaler when games are upscaled to 1080p, not to mention some people have been saying that the performance takes a hit from 60 framers per second down to 30....Honestly, i wish they actually made 1280x720p HDTVS instead of those 'Fixed' displays running at 1366x766 and 1024x766....which result in streching the image, upscaling and downscaling.....I dont know why they make fixed displays, its retarted.

Also, i have a feeling the Wii will look and play totaly inferior on a 1080p plasma, when compared to an SDTV. Apperantly, when Wii games are set to widescreen the image looks softer for some wierd reason, but at least with an HDTV or EDTV you'd get progressive

Assuming your sitting 8 ft away or more, this should be fine. Upscaling doesn't occur in the ps3 unless you "uncheck 720p", otherwise it will run a game at native resolution (720p, 1080p, etc).

If your really worried about video quality, then spend $500-800 on a DVDO EDGE video processor to do the upscaling and de-interlacing from all your sources and let them feed native video output to the VP.

I'd setup the Plasma and ps3 first and see how it performs. If you really hate it, you can return the ps3 or you can get the EDGE as a video processor.

-Splints

Assuming your sitting 8 ft away or more, this should be fine. Upscaling doesn't occur in the ps3 unless you "uncheck 720p", otherwise it will run a game at native resolution (720p, 1080p, etc).

If your really worried about video quality, then spend $500-800 on a DVDO EDGE video processor to do the upscaling and de-interlacing from all your sources and let them feed native video output to the VP.

I'd setup the Plasma and ps3 first and see how it performs. If you really hate it, you can return the ps3 or you can get the EDGE as a video processor.

-Splints


For a 42", i'd be sitting around 8 1/2 feet away, no more than 9. As for the DVDO EDGE video processor, i dont i want to spend that much just to get one of those. I guess i'll just wait and see when the G10's are released, and head down to Best Buy and test one out with the PS3 and Wii....All i know is, next generation for videogames will be so much better and less of a mess as far as Resolution goes.

Since this gen, you have Wii games which are 480p and PS3 games which are 720p...a few that are 'even' less and a few that are 1080p, when all said and done, there's just so much scaling going on and so on, it sucks. There are no native 1280x720 HDTVS out there, unless we're talking old DLP sets, which suck. You cant find any great performing EDTVS out there, unless we're talking smaller sized CRT EDTV sets...Really though, this gen...its best to play the Wii on a 32" flatscreen SDTV CRT using component cables, and the PS3/360 through HDMI on a high end plasma i guess(depending), LCDs on the other hand make me sick, with all of the motionblur, inferior blacks and artificial color, ugh.

anyways, Next Gen however the Wii2 and PS4 will have native 1080p games(i'm assuming) but that wont be happening til 2011-2012....But at least by then, HDTVs will probably perform just as good as any high end CRT. hell probably sooner that....I mean, as far as black levels go, Pioneer has nailed it(although their sets are wayyyy too expensive for my liking)...Panasonic on the other hand looks to have nailed it as well with the G10 going by one of the CNET videos...Motion and color however are a different story i'm guessing, although better than any LCD.

Also, Samsungs 550 Plasmas are getting praise for their fantastic color, although not so great blacks...yet Panasonics 800u series are getting fantastic reviews, great black levels and the THX mode offers accurate color, which will be carried down to the G10....yadah yadah yadah:p

i just hooked up a cat 6 ethernet cable to my broadband connection and my PS3 dosent see it . what am i doing wrong?

Is this a "handshake" issue?

- When switching from PS3 to cable (HDMI 2 to HDMI 1), I get a snow/static picture flickering intermittently with the expected channel. TV is the original Vizio 42" LCD (non-1080p) from Costco purchased October 06. I'm grandfathered into the lifetime return policy so if I need to exchange it that shouldn't be a problem.

To fix this I unplug the HDMI from the PS3 and then plug it back in.

I tried to insert my son's PS3 into my theater last weekend, and experienced something odd. Using the Digital Video Essentials BluRay disk, the picture would blink on for three seconds and blink off for four seconds; blink on; blink off; etc., etc.

I'm running from the PS3 into a Lumagen VisionHDP into a Moome card in a Marquee 9500 LC projector, using a two meter cable from Blue Jeans Cable.

Is this an HDCP handshake issue?

Hey Gang,

I have a PS3 hooked up to a new 47LG70. I am getting occasional flicker and artifacting in the XMB, but I haven't seen it anywhere else yet, like during game play or watching a BD.

I've swapped HDMI cablles, and I thought that fixed it but the issue is occurring again.

The PS3 is set to play all resolutions, the tv can do 1080p. I'm in the midst of a system backup and will try restoring the system to see if that has any affect.

Any other tips or ideas would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve

I have my PS3 hooked to my Epson 6500UB projector via a Yamaha rx-v1600 AVR. I was playing around with my settings on the PS3 because I was wondering why my Epson was reporting a 1080i signal, and I noticed that 1080p was not checked. When I checked 1080p, and went to the next step, the screen started freaking out for the 30 second test, and then reverted back to what I had previously. Any thoughts on why I could not properly display 1080p?

It seems very strange because I have been watching Blu Ray movies on my PS3, and the Epson reported a 1080p signal.

Any thoughts would be appreciated

I have my PS3 hooked to my Epson 6500UB projector via a Yamaha rx-v1600 AVR. I was playing around with my settings on the PS3 because I was wondering why my Epson was reporting a 1080i signal, and I noticed that 1080p was not checked. When I checked 1080p, and went to the next step, the screen started freaking out for the 30 second test, and then reverted back to what I had previously. Any thoughts on why I could not properly display 1080p?

It seems very strange because I have been watching Blu Ray movies on my PS3, and the Epson reported a 1080p signal.

Any thoughts would be appreciated

Try going straight to the projector from the PS3 and see if that solves the problem...

I am not familiar with the receiver... so I am wondering if it will "pass" a 24p signal... which is probably what you were getting when the screen went "nuts!"

i just hooked up a cat 6 ethernet cable to my broadband connection and my PS3 dosent see it . what am i doing wrong?
Please post what it does detect under your network settings on the XMB.


When switching from PS3 to cable I get a snow/static picture flickering intermittently with the expected channel...To fix this I unplug the HDMI from the PS3 and then plug it back in.
You have to hot plug the HDMI cable on the PS3 to get your cable box to work? I haven't seen a cable box yet that was worth using via HDMI. Too many headaches.

I'm running from the PS3 into a Lumagen VisionHDP
Don't use the DVI inputs on the scaler, use the YPbPr ports instead.
Does the PS3 desktop flicker, or just when the DVE disc is playing?

I have my PS3 hooked to my Epson 6500UB projector via a Yamaha rx-v1600 AVR...Any thoughts on why I could not properly display 1080p?
What happens when you bypass the AVR and run direct to the PJ?

I am not familiar with the receiver... so I am wondering if it will "pass" a 24p signal... which is probably what you were getting when the screen went "nuts!"
It wouldn't be 24hz when the picture went wonky, it would've been 60hz.
It may just be the bandwidth increase when going from 30hz (interlaced) to 60hz (non interlaced) was enough to cause your cabling to fail.
If the PS3 uses 1920x1080p@60hz this is higher bandwidth than either 1920x1080@30hz or 1920x1080@24hz. I think previously you had a 1080i PS3 desktop and were watching 1080/24hz movies - both of which could work due to lower BW.

Try going straight to the projector from the PS3 and see if that solves the problem...

I am not familiar with the receiver... so I am wondering if it will "pass" a 24p signal... which is probably what you were getting when the screen went "nuts!"
I will give that a try, but the odd thing was that I was getting a 1080p signal while watching The Fifth Element, or at least that's what the projector said it was getting.

Thanks for the suggestion.

What happens when you bypass the AVR and run direct to the PJ?


It wouldn't be 24hz when the picture went wonky, it would've been 60hz.
It may just be the bandwidth increase when going from 30hz (interlaced) to 60hz (non interlaced) was enough to cause your cabling to fail.
If the PS3 uses 1920x1080p@60hz this is higher bandwidth than either 1920x1080@30hz or 1920x1080@24hz. I think previously you had a 1080i PS3 desktop and were watching 1080/24hz movies - both of which could work due to lower BW.

Hmm. Here are the specs on the cable; it appears that it should be able to handle quite a lot more bandwith than 60Hz, but maybe I am not comparing apples to apples:

Specs & Features

# Connector Type: HDMI male to HDMI male
# Connector Finish: Gold
# Length: 30ft
# Gauge: 28AWG
# # of conductors: 19
# Conductor Plating: Tin
# Shielding level: Triple
# Shielding type: EMI
# Ferrite Cores: Yes
# Net Jacket: No
# Built-in Equalizer: No
# Supported Resolutions: 480i to 1080p
# Rated Bandwidth: tested to 165 Mhz
# HDMI Certified: Yes
# HDMI Spec: 1.3a
# HDCP Compliant: Yes
# CEC Compliant: Yes
# ROHS Compliant: Yes
# 1.3 Device Compatible: Yes
# Supports DVD Audio: Yes
# Supports SACD: Yes
# Supports TrueHD & DTS-HD: Yes

UL Specs

# UL File #: E119932
# UL Style #: 20276
# CL2 (In-Wall): No
# VW-1: Yes
# Voltage Rating: 30V
# Temperature Rating: 80 C

I don't think it's the 24fps or the hdmi cable, but it's probably the receiver.

Your Yamaha is probably trying to upscale/de-interlace the signal and the best the video chip can do is 1080i. If you can turn off up-scaling on your Yamaha, that would probably fix the problem. It will also not upscale any lower def content either, but that is the likely tradeoff for 1080p.

-Splints

Hmm. Here are the specs on the cable; it appears that it should be able to handle quite a lot more bandwith than 60Hz, but maybe I am not comparing apples to apples:

You have the specs for the cable but not for your AVR???
A 2 minute Google search appears to confirm that your receiver only supports 1080i. I can't download the manual from the product page :eek:
maybe you could confirm that by taking a quick lookie at the book.

I don't think it's the 24fps or the hdmi cable, but it's probably the receiver.

Your Yamaha is probably trying to upscale/de-interlace the signal and the best the video chip can do is 1080i. If you can turn off up-scaling on your Yamaha, that would probably fix the problem. It will also not upscale any lower def content either, but that is the likely tradeoff for 1080p.

-Splints
I think you hit the nail on the head. When I connect the PS3 directly to the projector, I have no problem selecting 1080p in the Display settings on the PS3.

I thought my receiver could upscale to 1080p, so that's why I didn't look there first. Should have known as it was one of the earlier HDMI upscaling AVR's.

Also, I just ordered the cable off Amazon, and had easy access to the item entry, which included the specs. So that's why I had those readily available.

One other question, is there a good resource out there that explains the various options on the PS3? There are a bunch of options that sound like they would be helpful, but I don't know if (1) they are implemented well, and (2) if they would be redundant/problematic with what I already have on my AVR/projector. I am talking about options like Game->PS Upscaler or PS Smoothing, and BD/DVD-> Upscale, output format, BD 1080p 24Hz, and Cinema Conversion.

Thanks for the help.

Glad that was helpful. The PS3 FAQ (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=931796) in the Blu-Ray player section is a very good resource.

-Splints

Hey guy..girls..;
Just wondering if someone can help, I had my ps3 hooked up fine to hdmi on toshiba, i moved and reconnected the game, but now the tv says that (unsupported video source), if i connect the cables yellow,red,white it works, but if i put the tv input to hdmi4 where the hdmi cable is i get that same msg. i went into display setting on ps3 and changed it to hdmi waited the 30 sec switched to hdmi cable but still same error...also my tv says im at 480 dpi...is it my tv or ps3? that is not configured right..any help would be great

-Connect the TV and PS3 via HDMI only. Make sure to remove the composite (red/yellow/white).
-Switch the TV on and to the correct input that the PS3 is plugged into.
-Turn on the PS3 with the front button, and keep holding the button for 3-7 seconds until you hear a couple of beeps. It will then enter in video detect mode and set your HDMI settings.
-Follow on screen instructions.

If you connect both HDMI and composite at once, it will not work.

.

Hi everyone,

I have a quick question regarding the RGB Full/Limited setting. I've read through a lot of threads on this topic and I always end up more confused afterwards.

Without getting too technical on me.. What is the best way to determine if my DLP supports RGB Full? My tv is a Mitsubishi WD-57734 connected via HDMI to the PS3.

With my last television, (Mits DLP WD-52631) I kept the setting at "Limited". I remember a scene in the game Oblivion, The Elder Scrolls where there was a treasure chest in a dark room. When RGB was set to "Full", no matter how high I turned the brightness up, you were unable to see this chest at all. I no longer have that game and I just can't tell if my current television supports it or not and I have read so many threads on this topic.

Thanks in advance for the help, I really appreciate it.

Greg

ok all you seem to have all the answers, try this one. i have an panasonic sc-660 home theatre, i have optical running from the reciver to the tv and hdmi from my xbox and ps34 going to my tv. when i am playing my xbox and watching movies on the ps3 i can get the digital sound but when i play my games on the ps3, i cannot. can you guy recommend something to me that would help me to acheive this, keep in mind my reciver has one optical output and 1 hdmi output.

Hi everyone,

I have a quick question regarding the RGB Full/Limited setting. I've read through a lot of threads on this topic and I always end up more confused afterwards.

Without getting too technical on me.. What is the best way to determine if my DLP supports RGB Full? My tv is a Mitsubishi WD-57734 connected via HDMI to the PS3.

With my last television, (Mits DLP WD-52631) I kept the setting at "Limited". I remember a scene in the game Oblivion, The Elder Scrolls where there was a treasure chest in a dark room. When RGB was set to "Full", no matter how high I turned the brightness up, you were unable to see this chest at all. I no longer have that game and I just can't tell if my current television supports it or not and I have read so many threads on this topic.

Thanks in advance for the help, I really appreciate it.

Greg

There is a good image with numbers in it that someone posted in the PS3 giant FAQ. Load that up.
If you use full and can see all the numbers, then the tv works with full.
The oblivion chest was doing the same thing. This just uses a simple picture you can view on the XMB.

ok all you seem to have all the answers, try this one. i have an panasonic sc-660 home theatre, i have optical running from the reciver to the tv and hdmi from my xbox and ps34 going to my tv. when i am playing my xbox and watching movies on the ps3 i can get the digital sound but when i play my games on the ps3, i cannot. can you guy recommend something to me that would help me to acheive this, keep in mind my reciver has one optical output and 1 hdmi output.

How many inputs does the receiver have of each type?

Ideally you should have:

PS3 and 360 ---->>HDMI or optical>>---- Receiver ---->>HDMI>>---- TV.

It seems you have:
PS3 and 360 ------->>HDMI>>------ TV----->>optical>>----- Receiver.

TVs usually cannot pass more than stereo from their inputs to a receiver.
If I have it wrong, then let us know in more detail, what type of receiver and what type of TV.

yes that is correct, i have 1 place for optical in my reciver and 1 place for hdmi as well. for some reason i can get digital when i hook up an hdmi cable from my receiver to my t.v. but when i hook up an optical cable it gives me dolby pro. i have a samsung pn42a450 t.v. if that helps. maybe if i hook up hdmi going from my reciever to my t.v. would that help. i have 3 hdmi slots on my t.v. would my audio be processed through all my sources if i utilize one of these hdmi outputs?

What kind of receiver is it.

When you say one optical and one HDMI on the receiver, are they inputs or outputs? As in, do they receive signal, or do they send signal to the TV?

The TV HDMIs are all inputs, and the optical is likely also an output to go to the receiver.

Since the TV does not pass advanced audio from the PS3 (coming via HDMI, I dont think any TVs do) you have two options.

1) Go HDMI from PS3 to the receiver for audio and video then HDMI from receiver to TV for video.
2) Go HDMI from PS3 to TV for video, and optical from PS3 to receiver for audio only.

It all depends on your receiver.

im sorry im not real tech saavy on this stuff. my reciever is a panny sc-pt660 and yes the hdmi is an output and the optical is an input. i want to try to run both my xbox and ps3 at the same time. this is strange also when i was in my xmb settings i checked the first box of each 5.1 audio setting and when i went to play my game it recognized this and gave me digital yet when i went to watch a movie on blu ray some of my audio was missing. i'm lost, at this point i don't know what to do. do i change the options for each source when i am either playing my game or watching a movie?

OK.

Your best bet is this.

Hook up your PS3 via HDMI directly to the TV. Then also use optical out from the PS3 to the receiver input.

Then go to the PS3 settings and do auto setup. You will be able to get 5.1 out of the PS3 via optical, but not 7.1. Its just the way its going to work for your receiver (which is a home theater in a box, not a real receiver).

Dont randomly click on audio options. You may select stuff the receiver cant receive, but you are telling your PS3 to output. Now, for BD Audio settings, set it on bitstream. Then all should work well.

I dont know how to also get the Xbox in there. You can use HDMI to the TV, but since the "Receiver" only has one input, you can only plug one of them in there at a time. So you can just use the sound directly through the TV via HDMI. I think that works. The 360 I had did not have HDMI, it was older, so I dont know how that works too well. Alternatively use component for the 360 and red/whites for the sound into the receiver. Then you get both audio sources into the receiver, and an HDMI from the receiver to the TV.

So:

PS3 ------optical---------receiver
--------HDMI---------TV

X360-------HDMI--------TV
or
X360-------component(5 colors)-------receiver-------hdmi--------TV

Ill be out later tonight, so I can help more tomorrow afternoon after work. Let me know how these various options work out for you.

how about an optical splitter or selector would that work?

Is this a "handshake" issue?

- When switching from PS3 to cable (HDMI 2 to HDMI 1), I get a snow/static picture flickering intermittently with the expected channel. TV is the original Vizio 42" LCD (non-1080p) from Costco purchased October 06. I'm grandfathered into the lifetime return policy so if I need to exchange it that shouldn't be a problem.

To fix this I unplug the HDMI from the PS3 and then plug it back in.

To update:
Exchanged for the Sony Bravia 1080p 120hz from Costco. Un-freaking-believable picture now. I can't believe what I was missing before with the Vizio. It's almost as striking as going from SD to HD.

No handshake issues with the Bravia and PS3, although that was expected given they are from the same company.

how about an optical splitter or selector would that work?

It would, you can have a selector so you input both from PS3 and 360 to receiver. Or you could just plug/unplug it each time.

I'm trying to play my new PS3 on my LN40A650 and I am getting intermittent component dropout when 1080p output is selected. Sometimes it will say "mode not supported" and sometimes it will just flicker between content and black, like the t.v. is trying to figure out what resolution to use. I am running a brand new monoprice 1.3 category hdmi cable, but the same thing happened when I tried a component cable. This has happened when playing the fifa 2009 demo, when trying to access the video section of the ps3 online store, when viewing the 1080 Wall-E trailer that I downloaded, and when browsing the web and trying to zoom text. It has not happened when playing little big planet or guitar hero 3.

When switching the ps3 output to display up to 1080i and not 1080p, this issue completely disappears. So, is this an HDCP handshake issue with the 1080p or what? Will a firmware upgrade help? I bought the t.v. in October and it was worked flawlessly with digital cable.

Thoughts? Feelings? Concerns? Help? I'm kind of a noob with this stuff, so any advice would be appreciated.

Hmm...

It may well be a HDMI cable issue. However if same hing happens with component (which does not do DHCP handshakes) its likely a TV issue of some sort or a PS3 output issue at 1080p.

Try demos for games we know are in 1080p. Such as Pixeljunk Eden. As opposed to LBP which is 720p.

You could replace your PS3. But honestly its hard to pinpoint it. If it happens over component, its not a handshake issue. And it seems to happen at 1080p only?

Ok, I fired up my PS3 today and it did the handshake process several times on start up. The initial handshake was followed by three more when I reached the XMB . I have my PS3 going to a Marantz HDMI switch followed by a Marantz receiver finished with a Sony KDL-40XBR6 TV. Is it normal for the PS3 to handshake this many times on startup?

It should only shake once, at startup. Ours goes through a Onkyo receiver and it is flawless, one handshake at bootup, before the wavies and orchestra and that is it until the PS3 reboots. Even if the TV goes off or changes channels.

Your HDMI switch and receiver may be causing issues. Try it to TV only and see. Then introduce each device one at a time into the loop. It could be a loose connection, a weak/faulty cable (and there seem to be 3 of them between your PS3 and TV).

It should only shake once, at startup. Ours goes through a Onkyo receiver and it is flawless, one handshake at bootup, before the wavies and orchestra and that is it until the PS3 reboots. Even if the TV goes off or changes channels.

Your HDMI switch and receiver may be causing issues. Try it to TV only and see. Then introduce each device one at a time into the loop. It could be a loose connection, a weak/faulty cable (and there seem to be 3 of them between your PS3 and TV).

I turned the emphasis function on on my switch. We'll see if that improves it. I wonder if it was getting a weak signal off the bat and therefore had to resync. If not, a new cable is next. I guess I should have bought a fancy Monster cable the first time around. ;)

I am not familiar with that switch, but try it PS3 to TV directly to check. Also turn every device on before you turn on the PS3. That helps as well.

Don't waste money on a fancy cable. Get 10 for 10 bucks from monoprice. That's what I did and the 6 I have used so far are flawless. If one goes bad, I have 4 spares.

I am not familiar with that switch, but try it PS3 to TV directly to check. Also turn every device on before you turn on the PS3. That helps as well.

Don't waste money on a fancy cable. Get 10 for 10 bucks from monoprice. That's what I did and the 6 I have used so far are flawless. If one goes bad, I have 4 spares.

Trust me. I will never buy a fancy cable. Hence the wink! The emphasis function is supposed to reduce any noise that comes into the switch. The idea is to create a strong signal over longer distances after it leaves the switch.

Have my PS3/360/HD-A1 via hdmi 3x1 monoprice connected to my Sony 720p/1080i kdf-e50a10.

It's been fine for almost 3 yrs until recently. I tried watching a dvd on the hd-a1, picture is intermittently blinking in and out every 5 secs. Tried my 360 and the handshake resolves and it plays games fine but when I try a dvd I get a HDCP error link pop up. Lastly tried my PS3 turned it on and nothing no picture but sound only.

Is my HDMI port damaged or has the HDCP chip been damaged and the display isn't resolving the handshake anymore?

Thanks for any ideas.

I think you may have nailed it on the head.

Try all the connections make sure nothing is loose. Then try PS3 to TV or HDA1 to TV and make sure its not a TV issue. THen check and swap around the cables and make sure they arent getting old.

Its hard to say.

I have a Westinghouse 32H240S TV. My PS3 is hooked up directly to the TV via HDMI with optical out for audio going to a headphone amp.

The problem I'm having is that after playing a game and going back to the XMB, I get nothing on screen. It takes me either flipping through the inputs a few times or turning off the TV then turning it back on. I've tried with 3 different HDMI cables and the issue still persists.

It's in no way detrimental to me for playing games/watching movies as I've lived with it the past year. I just though about posting it now if others have a budget gaming TV.

-Brad

The westinghouses have poor hdmi handshakes. Its well documented. Lower end TVs like Westinghouse, Vizio and others suffer the same problems.

I have a sony sxrd 50a2000.

ps3 setup via hdmi. Common question-

I use "automatic" setup in the display setting and the ps3 outputs to 1080p.

In games rendered at 720p (killzone 2 for example)- am I fine to leave my display at 1080p or should I "force" 720p only (uncheck all other resolutions)?

I know my set and the ps3 are upconverting the 720p image- but is this affecting image quality. Are both my tv and ps3 upscaling an original 720p image?

it depends.

all games have a default resolution set by the developers based on what the connected tv can do.

say you have a tv like yours that accepts all resolutions. Some developers may want the game to still output at 720p and let the tv upscale, while others may have the game output in 1080i or 1080p if it is available.

In my experience, I have learned to trust the developers. Our TV also accepts everything and does a good job of upscaling. So I leave everything at default, no forcing anything.

Only once or twice have there been issues where the game played significantly better than the "default". I forget which games, but it was not big name games.

i set my audio settings to where i thought they should be, and i was playing metal gear solid in true digital. i then switched over to playing burnout and resistance and i lost all audio alltogether. what gives, do i need to play these in dolby? and i also noticed when playing heavenly sword that i was playing in digital as well just like metal gear. i don't know what the problem is. in my menu system on the ps3 should i just choose the automatic settings that opts the 2 2channel settings and let my reciever divide the channels?

I had flashing, snow, random drop outs from signal loss.

I changed PS3 output video setting and excluded 1080p. Works great now. No snow effect, no flashing.

This is on a sam 52" 650 HDMI through sunfire tgr-3 to tv. audio on optical link

Samsung LN40A550 and PS3 80GB via HDMI with absolutely zero issues in all resolutions (knock on wood!)

Samsung LN46A750 and 80 GB PS3 no HDMI issues at any resolution. I have an older Sony receiver and run 5.1 audio via optical from the PS3. No issues with a Motorola STB/DVR via HDMI either. Using optical audio from that also. Monoprice HDMI and toslink cables. Awesome Monoprice LCD mount also, but that is obviously not effecting the HDMI issue.

One time I saw a momentary "mode not supported" message on the LCD screen when starting a game or movie in the PS3, but it quickly disappeared and everything played normally. I think that it may have been an older DVD.

Before I got my order from Monoprice I bought a $30 Phillips 2 meter HDMI cable at a local store and the PS3 would not display on the LCD with it. Component worked fine. I was worried until the Monoprice HDMI cable came and worked perfectly. Fortunately I had saved the other receipt.

Can anyone tell me if I can connect a Rotel-1057 to a PS3 using HDMI?

Can anyone tell me if I can connect a Rotel-1057 to a PS3 using HDMI?

Rotel 1057 HDMI (1.1) are video only and does not accept audio via the HDMI input. So you would need to use a separate digital connector for audio. Hope this help answer your question.

Can anyone tell me if I can connect a Rotel-1057 to a PS3 using HDMI?

There's a good write up here:
http://www.hometheatermag.com/floorloudspeakers/807system/
[cut from the above article]
...Although the new RSX-1057 is the first Rotel receiver to sport HDMI—two in, one out—be warned that it's version 1.1, video passthrough only. So, it would still be a good idea to route Dolby Digital and DTS through the coaxial or optical inputs. If you're an early adopter of Blu-ray or HD DVD, the best course is to use the player's built-in decoder and the analog multichannel interface.

On the video side, the RSX-1057 transcodes composite and S-video sources to component video (but not to HDMI). It does not provide deinterlacing or upscaling...

Do any cheap 720p to 1080i or 1080p scalers exist?

I'm using my Playstation 3 on my Dell 2405 monitor but the problem is that certain games only support 720p.

The Dell 2405 has a native resolution of 1080p and it will accept and scale the 720p to 1080p but it looks absolutely horrible so I'm wondering what type of external scalers exist.

Keep in mind that the PS3 costs $400 so I can't justify spending $1000 on a scaler but I'm wondering if something cheaper exists that will look "decent". (eg. the X-Box 360 has a built-in scaler and it looks pretty good!)

I also need the scaler to not have much lag because of playing games.

I've seen a Gafen scaler for around $300 (still a bit pricey but maybe it's worth it?) that claims less than one frame of lag and it will upscale 720p to 1080i/1080p. Does anybody know anything about it?

Thanks for any help!

I have a Samsung ln52a630, but I get snowy grains and red horizontal lines on the screen when I connect the PS3 to the TV's hdmi 1 input. If I change the input to hdmi/dvi, its reduced but still there. I tried changing hdmi cables, but no help.
I then excluded the 1080p o/p from PS3 display setting, and the issue vanished.

Any thoughts why this is happening?

...I get snowy grains and red horizontal lines on the screen when I connect the PS3 to the TV...

Hi, you have losses/errors in your signal path based on bandwidth.
You could trouble shoot this way:
1) PS3 @ 1080p to another display
2) Attach another 1080p source to your TV
3) Test your HDMI cables at a friends house [at 1080p]
4) Remove any AVR receiver from the signal path
My money is on #3 or #4 as the most likely culprit. I know you changed cables but you didn't mention what brand/wire gauge/length/rating/price they were.

Do any cheap 720p to 1080i or 1080p scalers exist?.....I've seen a Gafen scaler for around $300...

I'm using my Playstation 3 on my Dell 2405 monitor but the problem is that certain games only support 720p.


Hi, my initial thoughts about this at 6am would be:
1) I think the Dell 2405 is not HDCP compliant [no 1080p over HDMI]
2) $300 for a mediocre Gefen scalar is almost the price of an HDTV
3) Can't you use component video cables- output 720p/1080i - and
accomplish the same thing for about $20? I thought the 2405 had better
results when scaling analog inputs.
4) Can you force the PS3 into 1080p only output?

Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth...here's a related link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-808171.html

Thanks for the quick reply Ward216.

I have a direct connection between the PS3 and TV. No AVR in the middle.
Initially, I had a 30AWG HDMI cable from meritline that I got for 3 bucks...Then I changed it to a 28AWG cable from monoprice. But, still the same thing.

Will try your suggestions at a friend's house.

Has anyone had issues with the screen blinking on the PS3 meny only? Once I launch a game, it's fine, no issues, but when I turn on the PS3 or exit from a game, the menu blinks constantly. I can unplug it from the HDMI switch and plug it into another input, and it's fine for a while, but always starts blinking again eventually.

I'm running HDMI - PS3 to Monoprice HRM-2214F switch to Epson 1080UB.

I am thinking of replacing the switch and getting a Denon 789 or 889, but don't want to bother if I'm just going to have the same problem. Cable run from the switch to the projector is 35 ft.

Thanks, Tyler

I'm trying to get some reliable info on configuring this receiver to work with the PS3 and TV. Or to determine if there is a hardware issue.

Currently:
PS3 --hdmi--> receiver --hdmi--> TV

It works fine. Then after 20+ minutes, decides to stop showing an image/audio. Cycling on/off the TV/receiver normally restores the image. Sometime for another 20 minutes. Sometimes less.

I finally gave up on the cable box and HDCP error messages and have it connected:
DVR --hdmi--> TV
--optical audio--> receiver

My goal is to make it so my wife can just turn stuff on and have it work which seems like all video going through the receiver was going to accomplish. Do I just need a fancy remote?

What settings I should check on the PS3, receiver, TV?
I'm pretty certain that PS3 --hdmi--> TV worked. Downside, just TV audio. Should I just get an optical audio cable?


The cable company blamed the HD-DVR HDCP issue on the hdmi cables. I don't believe that. New Sony HDMI cables.

Thanks.

I'm trying to get some reliable info on configuring this receiver to work with the PS3 and TV. Or to determine if there is a hardware issue.

Currently:
PS3 --hdmi--> receiver --hdmi--> TV

It works fine. Then after 20+ minutes, decides to stop showing an image/audio. Cycling on/off the TV/receiver normally restores the image. Sometime for another 20 minutes. Sometimes less.

I finally gave up on the cable box and HDCP error messages and have it connected:
DVR --hdmi--> TV
--optical audio--> receiver

My goal is to make it so my wife can just turn stuff on and have it work which seems like all video going through the receiver was going to accomplish. Do I just need a fancy remote?

What settings I should check on the PS3, receiver, TV?
I'm pretty certain that PS3 --hdmi--> TV worked. Downside, just TV audio. Should I just get an optical audio cable?


The cable company blamed the HD-DVR HDCP issue on the hdmi cables. I don't believe that. New Sony HDMI cables.

Thanks.

It could be an issue wit the receiver's HDCP handhshake. If PS3-HDMI-TV works without issues, and you also had issues running the DVR through the receiver, then its almost 100% a problem with the receiver.

Hey Gang,

I have a PS3 hooked up to a new 47LG70. I am getting occasional flicker and artifacting in the XMB, but I haven't seen it anywhere else yet, like during game play or watching a BD.

I've swapped HDMI cablles, and I thought that fixed it but the issue is occurring again.

The PS3 is set to play all resolutions, the tv can do 1080p. I'm in the midst of a system backup and will try restoring the system to see if that has any affect.

Any other tips or ideas would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve


i just bought a 47lg70 ,manufacture date ,04/2009 and i just hooked up a ps3 80gb manufacture date ,12/2008, i also updated the ps3 firmware to the latest via wireless internet. i get the what seems to be the lesser of the issues when i plug it into hdmi 1-3. the ps3 will produce up to 1080i with no issues but as soon as switch it to 1080p, whether the auto setup or the manual custom, i get the snowy effect on the menu screen only.. not a lot of snow just enough to be irritating and no sound issues. this seems only to be on the menu screen. it plays blue ray dvd's with no issue at all so far. i am using a 6ft hdmi cable that i bought from the local cable provider.

NOW here is the biggie. when i switch the input from hdmi 1-3 TO hdmi4, one on the side, the snowy issue clears right up. so there is an issue with those ports. seems that i also read on here that several other ps3 users with various hdtv's were having similar issues on their back ports but the side port works with no issues at all...

what do you guys think?

it seems that the only fix right now for this is using the hdmi port on the side of the tv's?

just to add.. i also added a motorola cable box on ports 1-3 and had zero issues that i could tell. i wish i had a regular bluray player to see if it produced the same issues on port 1-3 that the ps3 did.

Connected PS3 to Samsung 30" TX R3079WH Model TV - worked fine for last 2 years.

In May, Purchased new LG 1080i DVD Player and HDMI 3-Input Auto/Manual Switch; Connected PS3 and LG DVD using 2 HDMI inputs, with 1 Output going to Samsung TV.

Worked for 2 weeks, now all I get is Black Screen when switching to HDMI Channel on TV. Went back to individual/direct input from PS3 or LG DVD, but same Black Screen.

Switched resolution settings on LG DVD (480/720/1080 i and p, but No Joy); no changes seen to be available on PS3; Samsung has limited Controls, too.

Think it's the HDMI Plug on the back of the TV. Any ideas on what to troubleshoot and/or fix?

...i get the what seems to be the lesser of the issues when i plug it into hdmi 1-3. the ps3 will produce up to 1080i with no issues but as soon as switch it to 1080p, whether the auto setup or the manual custom, i get the snowy effect on the menu screen only.. not a lot of snow just enough to be irritating and no sound issues. this seems only to be on the menu screen....
...when i switch the input from hdmi 1-3 TO hdmi4, one on the side, the snowy issue clears right up...


Hi, first off as you've probably figured out the 1-3 inputs all share the same architecture so it's no surprise that they share the same symptoms. Port 4 is a separate pcb and has it's own eprom and tmds interface. The snow you see is data drop out. From where, I'm not sure. We recently measured the bandwidth of the PS3 at work and discovered the XMB (in 1080p mode) puts out 10 bits per color (R,G,B) for a total of around 30 bits. This is higher than any media (games, movies) that are currently available. Sony calls it DeepColor. This might be the reason you only see this effect at the XMB. My best guess is your rear inputs cant handle the throughput at this higher bandwidth. Normally a device that doesn't support 30 bit color would just throw away (drop) these extra bits so it seems odd this would happen. I'm not aware of any way to reduce the color depth from ~30 bits to 24 in the user settings.
I would check the user forum here for your tv and see if there's a work around. Maybe even a software update.
Regards,

Hi, first off as you've probably figured out the 1-3 inputs all share the same architecture so it's no surprise that they share the same symptoms. Port 4 is a separate pcb and has it's own eprom and tmds interface. The snow you see is data drop out. From where, I'm not sure. We recently measured the bandwidth of the PS3 at work and discovered the XMB (in 1080p mode) puts out 10 bits per color (R,G,B) for a total of around 30 bits. This is higher than any media (games, movies) that are currently available. Sony calls it DeepColor. This might be the reason you only see this effect at the XMB. My best guess is your rear inputs cant handle the throughput at this higher bandwidth. Normally a device that doesn't support 30 bit color would just throw away (drop) these extra bits so it seems odd this would happen. I'm not aware of any way to reduce the color depth from ~30 bits to 24 in the user settings.
I would check the user forum here for your tv and see if there's a work around. Maybe even a software update.
Regards,

great answer.. thank you..
it seems that the problems are in many different models of tv.. some folks believe it is a ps3 problem..

http://www.fixya.com/support/t1097233-playstation_3_flickers_when_set_1080p

the user e-n-i-g-m-a also posted on the playstation forums with no solid answer as well...

So,do you guy's know if things like motion enhancer or cinemotion are supposed to be on or off when gaming? I have a ps3 connected to a sony kdl46z4100 with HDMI cable.Nobody seems to be able to tell me how those settings effect games either positively or negatively

So,do you guy's know if things like motion enhancer or cinemotion are supposed to be on or off when gaming?

Hi professor - first off 24p True Cinema (aka 24 frame per second support) is not enabled during gaming. Games run native at 60 frames per second while film is normally 24 fps. You can leave it enabled however as the TV is able to read the scan rate of the input signal (60hz or 24hz) and react accordingly. You can Google "3-2 pull down" if you're interested in how that's done.
'Motion enhancer' on the other hand is very much a software controlled effect and you should really adjust the level of the effect based on your personal preference. I would guess that it would add some lag due to the added processing time required to identify moving objects and process them independently of the remaining screen. If nothing else I would think the 'halo' effect surrounding the moving object would become a distraction when the effect is set to maximum. In this instance I would think "less is more" regarding picture quality vs processing while gaming. I personally like to set my display for a boost in contrast and color while gaming on the PS3 whereas for tv & film I like the calibrated setting.
regards,
Ward

it seems that the problems are in many different models of tv.. some folks believe it is a ps3 problem..

Well I'm in a slightly better position to comment than most people as we use an analyzer to view or record HDMI signaling for product development. The PS3 seems to meet the published specs by the HDMI group. Whether it be clock stretching for hand shaking between devices or the ability to drive long passive cable runs with a robust TMDS driver circuit it meets or excels the standard. Displays on the other hand suffer from a host of problems regardless of price ($150 - $55K). I'm not blaming the TV manufacturers, they're at the mercy of 3rd party developers who design and provide these HDMI interface pcb's. While it's true that there were limited tools provided at HDMI's launch for testing & development that has long since been resolved. Sadly, neither price nor brand lend any clue as we have expensive HDTV's that do not support diode blocking the +5v HDMI line from looping back from the display to the player or a recent Pioneer dvd player made OCT'08 that doesn't support clock stretching (holding the clock line low to extend the amount of time needed for hand shaking).
Hmm, I wonder if the forth coming packet based DisplayPort will help push HDMI developers to improve their products. Speaking of DisplayPort technology - anyone notice that HDMI now supports networking?

Well I'm in a slightly better position to comment than most people as we use an analyzer to view or record HDMI signaling for product development. The PS3 seems to meet the published specs by the HDMI group. Whether it be clock stretching for hand shaking between devices or the ability to drive long passive cable runs with a robust TMDS driver circuit it meets or excels the standard. Displays on the other hand suffer from a host of problems regardless of price ($150 - $55K). I'm not blaming the TV manufacturers, they're at the mercy of 3rd party developers who design and provide these HDMI interface pcb's. While it's true that there were limited tools provided at HDMI's launch for testing & development that has long since been resolved. Sadly, neither price nor brand lend any clue as we have expensive HDTV's that do not support diode blocking the +5v HDMI line from looping back from the display to the player or a recent Pioneer dvd player made OCT'08 that doesn't support clock stretching (holding the clock line low to extend the amount of time needed for hand shaking).
Hmm, I wonder if the forth coming packet based DisplayPort will help push HDMI developers to improve their products. Speaking of DisplayPort technology - anyone notice that HDMI now supports networking?

interesting indeed.. i think i will call lg and see what they say about it...might as well try out the customer service...:eek:

I had a PS3 for 1.5 years that worked perfectly with an expensive Monster HDMI cable (yes, I know, apparently they're a rip off). Because my TV swivels, the HDMI cable eventually broke from the strain. So I bought a new cheap HDMI cable which worked well the 1st time for 4 hours. The second time I turned on the PS3 it worked for about 30s and then completely died...no red light..nothing. Sony is repairing it now, seems like a power issue. When I get the fixed/replacement PS3 I'm concerned about using the same HDMI cable. Is there any way the HDMI cable could have broken the PS3?
Thanks.

...Is there any way the HDMI cable could have broken the PS3?
Thanks.

Nothing I can think of J. Here's the pinout so you can see for yourself.
http://www.interfacebus.com/HDMI_Pinout_Bus.html
I would order some 28awg HDMI repalacement cables from Monoprice.com so you have some inexpensive quality replacements for when you get the PS3 back from repair.

i have an issue i just isolated with my pioneer vsx519 and ps3..

with dts or dtshdma (most blue rays i guess) you MUST turn on the receiver FIRST in order for the ps3 to select the proper output. if you dont the ps3 selects 2channel or something and you dont get the voice channel...kind of weird... i thought it was a receiver issue but i believe it is just a system issue. since the playstation is set to auto it has to have the receiving device on so it can select the proper playback options...

...you MUST turn on the receiver FIRST in order for the ps3 to select the proper output. if you dont the ps3 selects 2channel or something and you dont get the voice channel...kind of weird...

Not to weird really as standard procedure for powering on of cascaded devices would be starting at the display and working your way back to the source (player) last. That way as each component is powered on the downstream device is already on and able to respond accordingly.

Hello All,
I am having a problem with my Onkyo HTS6100 & PS3 (TV is a Samsung PNA650 plasma). Afew month ago, the PS3 played thru the receiver no problem, but now the receiver doesn't recognize the PS3. If I hook the PS3 directly into the TV, it plays no problem. I have tried different HDMI cables into different inputs on the receiver, but nothing works. I've also tried switching back & forth from Linear to bitstream.. Any Suggestions? Thanks

Hello All,
... but now the receiver doesn't recognize the PS3...

Hi, I'm not quite sure what that means so I'll cover all the bases just to be thorough:
Direct connect PS3 to HDTV and
1)set PS3 to lowest values:
Video = 480p, Audio = HDMI auto detect (2 channel 44k).
Disconnect all other A/V cables (Sony multi A/V cable, Optical, etc)
2)Verify audio and video are OK on TV.
(Now would be a good time to swap HDMI cables to verify both as good)

3)Disconnect the HDMI cable from the TV and set aside for now,
Connect receiver to TV with HDMI, power on receiver select HDMI-1.
4)Attach (hot plug) HDMI cable from running PS3 into the receiver's HDMI-1 port.
Look for video changes or sync problems on the TV, also look for recognition of 2 channel audio detection on the receivers front panel. Does it recognize the different audio modes (2 ch, 5.1, 7.1, etc).
Note: make sure your receiver is set to AMP not AMP + TV for HDMI pass through (if applicable).

If you can't get the most basic of settings to work thru the AVR then you have a bad cable or you have some problem with the AVR's settings or a bad AVR. Any chance you can test a different HDMI device thru the receiver??? Satellite receiver, DVD player, etc??
Regards,

Not to weird really as standard procedure for powering on of cascaded devices would be starting at the display and working your way back to the source (player) last. That way as each component is powered on the downstream device is already on and able to respond accordingly.:eek: I have much better luck doing the reverse

Samsung HL67A750 works via hdmi without a glitch.... It's a beautiful thing.

I am currently building a theatre room right under my living room (same size room), I am going to be building a AV cabinet under the upstairs TV and I was looking to run an HDMI cable to a wall outlet. I would like to play (games, movies, stream video) either upstairs or downstairs by using a switch depending on where I am.

Should I skip the wall outlet and run direct? Does the wall outlet add resitance/interference? Should I boost the signal? It is only about 6-8 ft max.

I would definitely run another one, gitSehT.

With everything you do, you should keep the future in mind, everything.

Even if you can't do some of the things you'd like to do now, run cables and what not now, trust me.

I'm going to be getting a PS3 at Xmas, and from what I read it doesn't work with the Logitech Harmony remotes (i have a 550) unless you buy some type of converter. I see that Logitech sells one and there are others out there. Would it be worth it to buy the converter to be able to use the Harmony with the PS3 or should I just buy the Blu Ray remote for the PS3?

Would it be worth it to buy the converter to be able to use the Harmony with the PS3 or should I just buy the Blu Ray remote for the PS3? I never use my PS3 BD remote..I use one of the Nyko dongles..works great with the harmony remotes..

So I just buy the dongle and that will allow the Harmony to interface with it?

Sorry for all the dumb questions, really new to this stuff.

So I just buy the dongle and that will allow the Harmony to interface with it?

Sorry for all the dumb questions, really new to this stuff.

I just bought and set up the Harmony adapter for my Harmony 360 remote. Works GREAT. The Nyko adapter takes up a USB port from what I've heard, while the Harmony adapter does not. The Harmony adapter simply takes the IR commands, translates them to BT and emulates the PS3 remote. Just need to pair it up with the PS3, configure the remote by adding the PS3 and activities, and you're good to go. If you already have a Harmony remote, don't hesitate. I'm now back to remote unity, and life is good.

Thanks Clarksonknight. I'll just go with the Harmony one then.

OK my HDMI output stopped working on my PS3.

It was working last week.
We had a thunderstorm and lost power. The PS3 was off.

I can get the system to output through component cables.
The system tells me there is HDMI, but there is a connect issue.
I switched the HDMI cable same thing.
I switched the port on the TV and same thing.
I am able to use my cable box and Hd-Dvd player on the HDMI ports.

Any ideas?
Is the HDMI on a different board for the PS3?

Good news - I see that firmware rev 3 will finally implement HDMI-CEC* control for those of us that have been waiting to use our TV or AV receiver remote controls. I know my wife wont even attempt to use the PS3 remote beyond pause/play/stop commands. It looks like it might roll out the week of Sep 1st.

*aka Bravia Theater Link

Good news - I see that firmware rev 3 will finally implement HDMI-CEC* control for those of us that have been waiting to use our TV or AV receiver remote controls. I know my wife wont even attempt to use the PS3 remote beyond pause/play/stop commands. It looks like it might roll out the week of Sep 1st.

*aka Bravia Theater Link

Only on the new PS3s.

Only on the new PS3s.

Hi Ed,
I'd be really surprised from an engineering aspect to see this feature only available on the new 120GB model.
Two reasons to think it possible:
1) CEC was built into the HDMI spec since day one - and the PS3 has been quite good at adhering to that spec so far.
2) There ARE comms on pin 13 of the HDMI connector currently, and with no other downstream devices attached. Why bother initializing a query if you're not ever going to use it?
I reckon we'll find out soon enough either way...
(I'll continue to hold my breath, and perhaps keep my fingers crossed just to be extra lucky)

Ward

OK my HDMI output stopped working on my PS3. It was working last week.
We had a thunderstorm and lost power. The PS3 was off....The system tells me there is HDMI, but there is a connect issue...


Try unplugging the PS3 for 30 minutes from the AC power.
Also try lowering your video resolution on the PS3 to 480P initially.
If these both fail, try hot plugging the PS3 into the TV while both are turned on AND/OR changing the TV's input away from the PS3/HDMI input and then come back to it. Both of these last two force the TV to initialize a handshake with the PS3. Good luck, I hope something works for you.

Hi Ed,
I'd be really surprised from an engineering aspect to see this feature only available on the new 120GB model...
Ward

OK, color me surprised. I had no luck getting it to work with any of my gear. If I get some free time at work I'd like to hang a probe on pin 13 and see what's happening.
If anyone has the new 120Gig model I'd be interested to know if it works there. I don't have any plans to get one this year, but maybe Q1 of 2010.
-Regards/

i just bought a 47lg70 ,manufacture date ,04/2009 and i just hooked up a ps3 80gb manufacture date ,12/2008, i also updated the ps3 firmware to the latest via wireless internet. i get the what seems to be the lesser of the issues when i plug it into hdmi 1-3. the ps3 will produce up to 1080i with no issues but as soon as switch it to 1080p, whether the auto setup or the manual custom, i get the snowy effect on the menu screen only.. not a lot of snow just enough to be irritating and no sound issues. this seems only to be on the menu screen. it plays blue ray dvd's with no issue at all so far. i am using a 6ft hdmi cable that i bought from the local cable provider.

NOW here is the biggie. when i switch the input from hdmi 1-3 TO hdmi4, one on the side, the snowy issue clears right up. so there is an issue with those ports. seems that i also read on here that several other ps3 users with various hdtv's were having similar issues on their back ports but the side port works with no issues at all...

what do you guys think?

it seems that the only fix right now for this is using the hdmi port on the side of the tv's?

just to add.. i also added a motorola cable box on ports 1-3 and had zero issues that i could tell. i wish i had a regular bluray player to see if it produced the same issues on port 1-3 that the ps3 did.

Connected PS3 to Samsung 30" TX R3079WH Model TV - worked fine for last 2 years.

In May, Purchased new LG 1080i DVD Player and HDMI 3-Input Auto/Manual Switch; Connected PS3 and LG DVD using 2 HDMI inputs, with 1 Output going to Samsung TV.

Worked for 2 weeks, now all I get is Black Screen when switching to HDMI Channel on TV. Went back to individual/direct input from PS3 or LG DVD, but same Black Screen.

Switched resolution settings on LG DVD (480/720/1080 i and p, but No Joy); no changes seen to be available on PS3; Samsung has limited Controls, too.

Think it's the HDMI Plug on the back of the TV. Any ideas on what to troubleshoot and/or fix?

Hi, first off as you've probably figured out the 1-3 inputs all share the same architecture so it's no surprise that they share the same symptoms. Port 4 is a separate pcb and has it's own eprom and tmds interface. The snow you see is data drop out. From where, I'm not sure. We recently measured the bandwidth of the PS3 at work and discovered the XMB (in 1080p mode) puts out 10 bits per color (R,G,B) for a total of around 30 bits. This is higher than any media (games, movies) that are currently available. Sony calls it DeepColor. This might be the reason you only see this effect at the XMB. My best guess is your rear inputs cant handle the throughput at this higher bandwidth. Normally a device that doesn't support 30 bit color would just throw away (drop) these extra bits so it seems odd this would happen. I'm not aware of any way to reduce the color depth from ~30 bits to 24 in the user settings.
I would check the user forum here for your tv and see if there's a work around. Maybe even a software update.
Regards,



well just to update this.. it seems that it is a confirmed tv issue. i recently acquired a pioneer bdp-51fd and it produces the same snow on hdmi ports 1-3 on 1080p ..1080i is no problem though.. so i am definitely calling lg now... maybe it is just a matter of replacing the board... :eek:

[QUOTE=fatmanosu;17089725]
OK my HDMI output stopped working on my PS3. It was working last week.
We had a thunderstorm and lost power. The PS3 was off....The system tells me there is HDMI, but there is a connect issue...
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Try unplugging the PS3 for 30 minutes from the AC power.
Also try lowering your video resolution on the PS3 to 480P initially.
If these both fail, try hot plugging the PS3 into the TV while both are turned on AND/OR changing the TV's input away from the PS3/HDMI input and then come back to it. Both of these last two force the TV to initialize a handshake with the PS3. Good luck, I hope something works for you.

No luck. I am not sure what the issue is. The TV knows it is getting info, but will say low or no signal. :(

We have a similar problem: PS3 and brand new Samsung Full HD LCD TV were working fine on HDMI-connection. Last week we had a power shortcut, and now the PS3 and the TV no longer connect by HDMI (none of 3 ports).
But... : * the PS3 works fine on any other television, using HDMI
* any other PS3 works fine on the television, using HDMI

Does anyone has an explanation for this and even better: do you have a solution? Using an other HDMI cable didn't solve it, changing the settings didn't either.

HELP!!!

Bonzo, all I can say is reset your PS3 display settings by turning it off, then turning it back on and holding power until the PS3 beeps...if that doesn't work, backup and reformat the PS3. Or just use component ;)

Bonzo66 did you find any fix?
Did you try reformatting?

I've been using the Acer H233H monitor (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9183224&st=h233h&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218049006792) for a month now. No problems at all.

Last week I bought an HDMI switcher from monoprice (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011001&p_id=2786&seq=1&format=2) so that I can connect my Xbox360 and PS3 into the switcher, and the switcher into the H233H monitor.

Now the video and audio on the PS3 randomly goes out for approximately 3 seconds every once in a while. This occurs in game, while streaming media with PlayOn, and also while sitting idle in the XMB. The game and media continue to play as if nothing is wrong. I've played the xbox for approximately 10 hours and have not had this occur at all.

All HDMI cords work fine, I've swapped everything out. I've held down the power button for 5 seconds while turning on the PS3 to make sure the video was set properly. I've also disconnected the DVI connector to make sure it was not interfering somehow; the video/audio still goes out.

Ideas?

I have the Slim PS3 with a single HDMI input TV (Sony 960). I bought the PS3 AV component cord package ($40!!!). I get a display but still cannot get the video output under tools on the PS3 to change from HDMI to auto or component. Any ideas? I have done the double beep start switch reset several times.

I got an optical three way switch to run the Tivo or the PS3 into my sound system.

I can run the HDMI input from the PS3 and component from my Tivo but I had hoped to run the other way.

I have the Slim PS3 with a single HDMI input TV (Sony 960). I bought the PS3 AV component cord package ($40!!!). I get a display but still cannot get the video output under tools on the PS3 to change from HDMI to auto or component.

Ennui, if you disconnect the HDMI cable from the PS3 & attach the component video (RGB) to your display, then hold the PS3 on button for 2 beeps it should work fine.
If not, then you could attach to tv with both hdmi & component and boot up via HDMI and then change your output to component and then change inputs on the tv and check for picture. Start with 480p video only and THEN switch to a higher resolution once you can see the screen via the component video connection.
- Are you sure you are using the correct cabling for RGB component video?
- if yes, then are you sending 1080p via component?
- if yes, then drop down to 480p over component.

Last week I bought an HDMI switcher from monoprice...so that I can connect my Xbox360 and PS3 into the switcher, and the switcher into the H233H monitor.

Now the video and audio on the PS3 randomly goes out for approximately 3 seconds every once in a while. Ideas?

hi, remember HDMI constantly polls the display device during power-on state. Not just at startup for handshaking. It sounds like the 2 port HDMI switch is interfering occasionally with this process between the PS3 & your display. Customer reviews for that switch don't report any PS3 problems. However, I don't know if you have a new slim model PS3.
Here are three things you could try:
- Swap inputs on the switch (ex: move the PS3 to input 1 and move Xbox to input 2).
- Unplug the Xbox from the switch and see if the PS3 problem persists.
- Drop the resolution down on the PS3 to test for a change in behaviour.
Regards

Ennui, if you disconnect the HDMI cable from the PS3 & attach the component video (RGB) to your display, then hold the PS3 on button for 2 beeps it should work fine.
If not, then you could attach to tv with both hdmi & component and boot up via HDMI and then change your output to component and then change inputs on the tv and check for picture. Start with 480p video only and THEN switch to a higher resolution once you can see the screen via the component video connection.
- Are you sure you are using the correct cabling for RGB component video?
- if yes, then are you sending 1080p via component?
- if yes, then drop down to 480p over component.
Thanks for the response..

My TV is only 1080i. The cord I am using is what I bought from Sony with three video and two audio outputs.

The issue is on the PS3 toolbox, I cannot change the output to component or automatic; it stays on HDMI. Not sure what it takes to make it change. As I said, I reset it repeatedly but was not able to take it off HDMI for video output. (Even though I receive video output through the component cables when the HDMI cable is absent.)

Ennui, how odd that it wont let you change the video output port to component. I have an original launch model and I can switch to either as I have the horribly overpriced $40 multi cable as well. Does your slim model look like this page from the user manual?
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/videooutput.html

Ennui, how odd that it wont let you change the video output port to component. I have an original launch model and I can switch to either as I have the horribly overpriced $40 multi cable as well. Does your slim model look like this page from the user manual?
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/videooutput.html
Thanks for your help...outputs now OK.

I was bypassing the main video settings screen before.

Thanks again.

WOW...I have been seriously thinking about getting the PS3 in Feb 2010, but from all these problems Im having serious doubts now.

Im sorry, but it seems there are more problems with HDMI then not? I have read countless threads on this forum and others about all electronics messing up with HDMI. This makes me think....dont keep coming out with new tech until what we have works right..Same with every electronic device..

I have a Pioneer VSX-52tx Elite receiver. NO HDMI. I have a projector that does have HDMI Sony VPLaw10..OR...vlpaw10...I get it mixed up so one of them is right..This projector only does 720p/1080i..

IF I decide to get a PS3...HOW can I get the highest resolution out of it with the least amount of troubles? Im just about scared to buy into this tech right now as it seems as stable as my RROD 360 junk.

What you guys think??

I have 4 PS3's, got them when they first came out, and I've never had a problem with them, Mike.

All are connected to Panny plasma's and Yamaha audio receivers. 2 of them are with HDMI, 1 with DVI and 1 with component.

Comparing the stability of the PS3 to the X-Box is crazy, in my opinion.

There's no comparison at all.

I have had my ps3 for yrs have a 20gig that I upgraded Hard drive to 250 gig, hooked up to my new panasonic tcp50g10 series and other ps3 hooked up to my samsung 50 inch plasma b650 series and love it picture and sound works just fine, also have a 360 elite that works great, sound and upscales through 1080p through my pioneer elite receiver just fine no hdmi connecting issues every once in a while im also interested in knowing what everyone knows who has the new 120 gb slim ps3 thinks about it.

I have the HRM-2214F also. I lost the RS-232 control software CD. Does anyone have it and would they upload it to me. Thanks

I just recently got a 80GB PS3 and hooked it up to my Samsung LN46A860 and I've been having problems getting the PS3 to properly display in 1080p.

I've tried doing the whole HDMI reset thing where I hold the power on the PS3 for 5 seconds until it beeps & everything, and it defaults to 1080p, but when I do, I see the picture flicker every 3-4 seconds, it's unwatchable. I then deselected the 1080p checkbox, leaving 1080i as the highest output, and the video magically stops flickering.

Does anyone know of any issues or why the PS3 doesn't seem to want to display 1080p to my TV, even though it auto detects it as the optimal resolution?

The HDMI cables that I'm using are from one of those deals that I got back in the day where it was like $8 for 3x 6ft HDMI v1.3a cables.

Cable 1 - on 1080p had some random off color pixels & the video flickering
Cable 2 - on 1080p only had video flickering
Cable 3 - on 1080p had some random off color pixels & the video flickering

I'm currently using Cable 2 on 1080i and everything looks great, but I'm just wondering why I can't do 1080p from my PS3 to my TV. I've tried all the ports on the back of my TV already. Anyone run into a similar problem?

I just recently got a 80GB PS3 and hooked it up to my Samsung LN46A860 and I've been having problems getting the PS3 to properly display in 1080p.

I've tried doing the whole HDMI reset thing where I hold the power on the PS3 for 5 seconds until it beeps & everything, and it defaults to 1080p, but when I do, I see the picture flicker every 3-4 seconds, it's unwatchable. I then deselected the 1080p checkbox, leaving 1080i as the highest output, and the video magically stops flickering.

Does anyone know of any issues or why the PS3 doesn't seem to want to display 1080p to my TV, even though it auto detects it as the optimal resolution?

The HDMI cables that I'm using are from one of those deals that I got back in the day where it was like $8 for 3x 6ft HDMI v1.3a cables.

Cable 1 - on 1080p had some random off color pixels & the video flickering
Cable 2 - on 1080p only had video flickering
Cable 3 - on 1080p had some random off color pixels & the video flickering

I'm currently using Cable 2 on 1080i and everything looks great, but I'm just wondering why I can't do 1080p from my PS3 to my TV. I've tried all the ports on the back of my TV already. Anyone run into a similar problem?

All I know is it seems to be something with HDMI and this new tech that wasnt fully tested before making its way to the consumer. Seems to happen all too often.

Im going to be getting a PS3 and a new tv in about 4 months. If I have these issues, I will return everything and forget it. Its just not worth the headaches.