First off....I have sucessfully updated via the internet to 1.1 via a wireless router and wep protection. I then tried to enter a network ID via the playstation network and I kept getting disconnected from my "server". I go into the internet status bar and find that the signal strength varies from 82-100% (hops around) and then every 10 seconds or so disconnect but reconnects right away. What gives? I can type on the laptop in the bedroom 40 ft away without issues and I am typing this in the same room as the PS3 without issues. Any thoughts on my the network connection to the PS3 continues to connect/disconnect/connect/disconnect?

Will be out to dinner with the wife for the next hour...just leave comments and I will reply when I get back. Thanks...I am befuddled by the PS3 wireless and I might just have to call sony.

mines is doing the same except the signal is way lower 20-30%. i had a one minute period where the connection was 100%. i dont think a wireless network adapter would work tho. its the same thing the ps3 has. unless im wrong?!

mines is doing the same except the signal is way lower 20-30%. i had a one minute period where the connection was 100%. i dont think a wireless network adapter would work tho. its the same thing the ps3 has. unless im wrong?!weird...glad I am not the only one. I suspect it happened in the software update. I will try a new boot up, but if it is still happening, I will call sony.

I already called once...my "free" Taladega Nights was missing from the box. :mad: (and before anyone says anything, I had the marked box (one of the first 50,000 according to Sony)) It was like I opened a 600$ box of Frosted Flakes and my prize was missing. Sony did say they would get me out another copy if they had any - Jose said they should.

Slight update:

Called sony who thought it was odd that I was able to update firmware without losing an connection but now I can't keep a wireless connection for more than 15 secs. So they have their technical staff researching the compatibility with my Linksys router and Comcast/Motorola Cable modem. They will call back. As a test - and it was a bitch to do, I moved the modem and the router to practically on top of the PS3 and this was the result.

100% signal strength 100% of the time - connects for 15 sec, no longer and then disconnects/reconnects.

Wired connection through the router - 100% connection all the time.

What Gives??? ArGHH!!! I will not have ethernet lines running all over the house!

Interesting tidbit:

Sony also recommened I add the MAC to the router - I checked I had it set to allow all MAC's (I use a wep key).

Ironically My wife note that the MAC key that I was entering into the router was listed on the internet connection screen when I was disconnected under an BSSID#. But when I connected to the router the BSSID number changed to something different.

What the ****.

I am patiently awaiting a call back from sony tech support.

Bump:

I guess I'm not alone in this oddity.
http://www.gamespot.com/events/ps3launch/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25154400

I had trouble with wifi initially (D-Link DGL4300 router), until I set it up manually. For some reason, wifi reception isn't as good as my other devices (laptops, pdas). I wonder if this is a bug in the latest firmware.

If you haven't tried this, give it a manual IP address and etc. instead of auto and see if it works...did for me. BTW, I use WPA instead of WEP...not that it would make any difference.

I had trouble with wifi initially (D-Link DGL4300 router), until I set it up manually. For some reason, wifi reception isn't as good as my other devices (laptops, pdas). I wonder if this is a bug in the latest firmware.

If you haven't tried this, give it a manual IP address and etc. instead of auto and see if it works...did for me. BTW, I use WPA instead of WEP...not that it would make any difference.
Thanks. I will try that. Can you walk me through the process? I know what an IP address is but beyond that I haven't a clue.

Ok...so I did the wireless manual config with ip address with some help from a computer friend and still no joy. Arghh....off to call sony again.

First off....I have sucessfully updated via the internet to 1.1 via a wireless router and wep protection. I then tried to enter a network ID via the playstation network and I kept getting disconnected from my "server". I go into the internet status bar and find that the signal strength varies from 82-100% (hops around) and then every 10 seconds or so disconnect but reconnects right away. What gives? I can type on the laptop in the bedroom 40 ft away without issues and I am typing this in the same room as the PS3 without issues. Any thoughts on my the network connection to the PS3 continues to connect/disconnect/connect/disconnect?

If the wireless radio is weak, I guess the 20 GB model is a better deal.

The wireless radio in the PSP is quite weak too. I always have to be very near to my AP to use it effectively.

Ok...so I did the wireless manual config with ip address with some help from a computer friend and still no joy. Arghh....off to call sony again.


Let me know what you find out. I have the EXACT same problem. My connection show 85-95% and then disconnects every 15 secs or so. It then immediately reconnects. I don't have any trouble with my XBOX 360 connection. Oddly, when I download something from the Sony store (Motorstorm demo, for example), though it is excruciatingly slow, it does not show that it is disconnecting.
Again, let me know what you find out. I'm planning on calling Sony tomorrow if nothing is decided.
Thanks

Let me know what you find out. I have the EXACT same problem. My connection show 85-95% and then disconnects every 15 secs or so. It then immediately reconnects. I don't have any trouble with my XBOX 360 connection. Oddly, when I download something from the Sony store (Motorstorm demo, for example), though it is excruciatingly slow, it does not show that it is disconnecting.
Again, let me know what you find out. I'm planning on calling Sony tomorrow if nothing is decided.
Thanks
I am supposed to get a call from Sony Technical Specialist tomorrow - I had a 4 day weekend with the new toy. I will certainly let you know. I plan to firmly put my foot down on the firmware update as the cause...it all happened after the 1.1 update.

All I want is firmare 1.1 with 1.0's wireless settings. It is interesting to note that you can stay connected to the sony store....very, very interesting.

ps...I would call Sony today to make them aware more people are having these problems so when I talk to them tomorrow they have a record of it. Can you PM me your info so I have some name/phone number to toss back at them if they try to pull a directv move (your the only one with the problem).

I had the same issue with my linksys 802.11b router. I went and bought a linksys 802.11g router and now everything works perfectly.

I had the same issue with my linksys 802.11b router. I went and bought a linksys 802.11g router and now everything works perfectly.So let me ask you this? I assume the router 802.11b was working fine for PC functions. But when sony PSx tried to connect to the router it had troubles? And then all you had to do was change out the router to 802.11g and all is well? HMMM. Can you explain your situation more (did you have the connect/disconnect/connect/disconnect issues) so I don't wind up picking up a new router and exact having the same problem again. If it truely is the same issue, I guess I will need to pick up a new router after friday.

For the others out there: are Linksys routers decent or are there better routers (mind you I expect this is like the LCD vs DLP arguement). Note - I'm not looking for ultra-highend routers. I am going to have to enjoy telling the wife that my new 600$ purchase has required me to purchase a new router to replace a perfectly good working one. :rolleyes:

A very nice member at PS3 forums sent me this thread from the Playstation Boards re difficult connecting a linksys router...I plan on trying this tonight. Will post in the am on the succuss or not.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psnetwork&thread.id=798

I had the same exact problems you had. About every 20 seconds I would get a message saying "disconnected for access point" or something like that. Then it would reconnect and disconnect again. Very annoying. I went thru a bunch of troubleshooting with PS3 support and linksys and still got the same message. So I went to the store down the street and picked up the new router and have had no issues since.

A very nice member at PS3 forums sent me this thread from the Playstation Boards re difficult connecting a linksys router...I plan on trying this tonight. Will post in the am on the succuss or not.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psnetwork&thread.id=798

Let me know if that works out.

Let me know what you find out. I have the EXACT same problem. My connection show 85-95% and then disconnects every 15 secs or so. It then immediately reconnects. I don't have any trouble with my XBOX 360 connection. Oddly, when I download something from the Sony store (Motorstorm demo, for example), though it is excruciatingly slow, it does not show that it is disconnecting.
Again, let me know what you find out. I'm planning on calling Sony tomorrow if nothing is decided.
Thanks


I appear to be having the same problem.

I am having exact same issues.

All my 3pcs are fine I even put the wirless router 1 inch from the ps3 and still get drops every 15-20 seconds but otherwise report 100% signal. I wired it direct and it worked.

I am using a netgear router but its also a (b) nto a (g). I played around with the channels today on lunch and some other router settings I will report more when I get home. Sony was no help and netgear said well your 3 pcs work fine call Sony. LOL

I am having exact same issues.

All my 3pcs are fine I even put the wirless router 1 inch from the ps3 and still get drops every 15-20 seconds but otherwise report 100% signal. I wired it direct and it worked.

I am using a netgear router but its also a (b) nto a (g). I played around with the channels today on lunch and some other router settings I will report more when I get home. Sony was no help and netgear said well your 3 pcs work fine call Sony. LOL

have you tried enabling UPnP? or is there an option on your router whether to go B and G? if it's like that what about just trying the G option?

i have a Netgear WGT624 v3 G router and i'm not experiencing any issues. i have not had to forward ports or enable UPnP to get a solid wireless connection.

this is a (b) only router, I put the ip for the ps3 in the DMZ to take ports out of the equation. Upnp is not enabled on the router but i think i tried that at one point. I have to agree with the original poster this seems to be a firmware issue as I was obviously able to connect for 5-7 minutes downloading 1.1.

Let me know if that works out.No it didn't help. I thought for a second it did. It boosted my signal strenght to 95-100% all the time but still had the disconnect issue.
have you tried enabling UPnP?Will try that tonight when i get home.
this is a (b) only router, I put the ip for the ps3 in the DMZ to take ports out of the equation. Upnp is not enabled on the router but i think i tried that at one point. I have to agree with the original poster this seems to be a firmware issue as I was obviously able to connect for 5-7 minutes downloading 1.1.I agree, I think it is firmware incompatibility with (b) only routers and predominantly Linksys since most of the people reporting problems are running (b) routers. VegasFlyby changed to a (g) and had no troubles. I think I am going to go (g) Friday but if anyone else can confirm this before I do it would be greatly appreciated. I would hate to purchase it and still be stuck. Anyone have a friend with a Linksys (g) that can be borrowed to test the PS3 on?

ps...still awaiting a call back from sony "tech" support.

this is a (b) only router, I put the ip for the ps3 in the DMZ to take ports out of the equation. Upnp is not enabled on the router but i think i tried that at one point. I have to agree with the original poster this seems to be a firmware issue as I was obviously able to connect for 5-7 minutes downloading 1.1.


sorry Dagg21, that comment about the B & G setting was meant for the OP. :o

but i concur, i do think that it is a minor issue with the B router that can be fixed via a small download.

my friend has a Dlink Super G router, i'll ask him if he's having any wireless connection issues when he's on his PS3.

Yikes - keep us posted. I have a 20GB in hand unopened that I wanted to trade for a 60GB due to the wireless function it offers, but now I'm thinking it might not be worth it!

the wife is headin to the mall having her pickup the same netgear g router on of the above posters is using, I will post my results. Im not happy to be spending 60.00 when i have a perfectly good working router now but I need to put this issuue to bed and get on with the gaming. ;)

the wife is headin to the mall having her pickup the same netgear g router on of the above posters is using, I will post my results. Im not happy to be spending 60.00 when i have a perfectly good working router now but I need to put this issuue to bed and get on with the gaming. ;)
If you post tonight that it works...I'll be happy/pissed. Happy that the issue is done. Yet pissed at Sony for spending 33$ more ($100/3 optional (wifi/60GB/Card Slots) for wifi and then having to spend 60 more to get a router that works "better." Ugh. Keep us posted with your success or not.

If you all haven't noted I posted a poll about routers: please add yourselves here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=754875) too.

I am putting the new router in this afternoon. Some odd facts about my non working router:

I was unable to sign up for PS3 online account. However I did do this when I was "wired" briefly. Even with the wireless hooked up and the drops I was able to logon the store and complete a demo download that took like 7 - 10 minutes.

So I decided to try Marvel Ultimate Alliance Online, I clicked online, it said sign in I did it failed maybe once or twice but then connected me, I picked join a game it searched for any active games and dropped me maybe once or twice. I then found a game and was able to join it and stay connected for the better part of an hour. Its weird in game when going between boards it would say lost connection to access poiunt for 5 seconds but it would indeed load.

I tried this again later on in the evening with similar results. Kind of makes me scratch my head even more

I'm having the same troubles but I'm using a Linksys WRT54GX4 with the latest firmware.

I have tried the following in an attempt to remedy the problem but to no avail:

Static IP for the PS3
Port Forwarding
DMZ
Changing wireless channel
Allowing my computers and my ps3's MAC addresses only and disabiling WPA


Hopefully Sony fixes this soon, I'm nearing the $2000 mark for money towards PS3 related activities.

If the wireless radio is weak, I guess the 20 GB model is a better deal.

The wireless radio in the PSP is quite weak too. I always have to be very near to my AP to use it effectively.

My wireless router is on the other side of the house, on an entirely different floor, and I still get excellent signal and no connection drops. I don't think it's a range issue, I think it's a compatibility with certain routers issue.

Was planning on purchasing a new Linksys WRT54GX from wal mart today.. put if Foulplay is having problems with G router too.... DAGG21, let me know what type of router you end up buying and what the results are first. Hate to make an unnecessary purchase... let alone have to justify another purchase all togather.

I took a 1/2 day should have some updates shortly

This issue is not related to (b) or (g) only. My friend had the Linksys router connected with (g) and had the exact same issue. No problems initially loading the firmware update and then bam, can't stay connected longer than 30 seconds in a row. He went out and got the Belkin N1 Draft N compliant router, which is basically the updated version of my Belkin Pre-N router, and now he can't stay connected at all. This is almost positively a Sony firmware problem.

Was planning on purchasing a new Linksys WRT54GX from wal mart today.. put if Foulplay is having problems with G router too.... DAGG21, let me know what type of router you end up buying and what the results are first. Hate to make an unnecessary purchase... let alone have to justify another purchase all togather.

I don't think it has anything to do with routers of any brand. I don't know the exact model number but I have the LInksys wireless-g router 802.11. The cheapest one without the booster and I have not had a single problem connecting online. It's actually pretty fast. But i know someone who bought the exact same router and always getting disconnected. we're both about 20 feet away from the router. My signal strength is 97%. i don't know his.

Ok update is here I installed the Netgear WGT624v3 and its working fien i get no drops even with my 50% connection. Not sure what it was about the oold netgear b router but I am working fine. Going to spend some time downlaoding etc and report my results.

Ok update is here I installed the Netgear WGT624v3 and its working fien i get no drops even with my 50% connection. Not sure what it was about the oold netgear b router but I am working fine. Going to spend some time downlaoding etc and report my results.

Two questions for you. Do you have WEP security on? And on the wireless router, can you turn off the wireless connection and leave the hardwired connections. I only want to have the wireless activated when I am using PS3 online, so that hackers won't have enough time to hack WEP. Thanks

good to hear Dagg21. i haven't had any problems using that router, just as long as you get the one that says V3. the earlier versions had some issues that i kept coming across on forums.

my friend with the Dlink Super G didn't have any issues downloading PS3 through a wireless connection.

Two questions for you. Do you have WEP security on? And on the wireless router, can you turn off the wireless connection and leave the hardwired connections. I only want to have the wireless activated when I am using PS3 online, so that hackers won't have enough time to hack WEP. Thanks


you can turn off the Radio on the router so it doesn't act as an wireless AP. the wired connection will still work.

Trying to find the v3 version. Amazon doesn't mention what v it is. Is this the one? Thanks
http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-WGT624-Super-Wireless-Router/dp/B0000C0XS0/sr=8-1/qid=1164228858/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-0691387-5804962?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

well i'm assuming they stopped producing the older versions. IIRC, the box will actually say if it's a V3 or not. do you have like a Best Buy, CompUSA or Circuit City in your area?

here's the manual for it.
http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wgt624v3_ref_manual_25Apr05.pdf

You should be able to get that router from Circuit City its even on there webpage if you search for wireless routers, I ordered from home them drove by and picked it up. 24 hours later still no issues.

Update on my wireless...
I reset the router (d-link, di-524) and turned off the WEP security. It now works without losing the "access point". Not sure why this makes a difference with this router, but it works, so I'll go with it.

i trashed my old Linksys 802.11b router which took FOREVER to set up (around 2 hrs) to configure....

bought a new D-link DIR-625 802.11 draft n router for about $94 at Costco (it's $125 at BB) and it literally took 5 minutes to install!!! The automated install process was so easy, anyone can install these things nowdays. Works flawlessly with my ps3.

Update on my wireless...
I reset the router (d-link, di-524) and turned off the WEP security. It now works without losing the "access point". Not sure why this makes a difference with this router, but it works, so I'll go with it.

did you use WPA instead of WEP? i'd be loath to turn off my router's security and compromise my network for the sake of a gaming console.

*Update* I purchased a Linksys wrt54g from BB today - they were nice enough to say that if didn't work I could return it for the aforementioned netgear (20$ more than the linksys). I hooked it up and had the most trouble getting the laptop to recognize it but the PS3 was happy right away with wep enable and port/dmz changes. Solid 82-85% signal stregth and no disconnect. I'm a happy camper...the wife not so much. ;)

Anyone using a D-Link DGL 4300? If so, what are your results? I actually have this router and haven't had any trouble with it dropping the internet connection. Any ideas on info I can/should enter into the router to improve performance? I'm just barely savvy enough to be dangerous, so give me the spoon-fed version if you don't mind!

*moved from another thread*

Check my post in the set-up issues thread...the PS3 Wi-Fi radio suffers from a terrible SNR...
In fact, in my case, it is so bad that I can't use it...I had to hook it up to my client bridge.
People should also be aware that with proper wireless access, the PlayStation Store is not so slow. I was able to download the F1 demo in less than 20 minutes.
Dralt if the problem you had was a slow communication with your router, with a high SNR then this was not a problem the original point of this thread. We here experienced a continuous loop of connect to the router, disconnect to the router with a loop time averageing 15 seconds. I don't think that SNR is the reason router can have 100% signal strength and the drop the handshake 15 seconds later. This all started with a wireless connected firmware update to 1.1 and as such was not a problem with the router but a problem with the PS3.
Any AP that supports 11b or 11g should work.
The problem is the weak radio/poor antenna/interferences in the PS3.
In other words, no matter what router you use, you will have problems.
I respectfully disagree with these statements as would a few other members here. I have (had) a 802.11b router and the PS3 will not hold a communication handshake. Since I moved to a 802.11 b/g router and left all setting the same, no problems. It is just not wrong to say that any "11b or 11g should work" but it is definitely not true. See from the first post that there are routers that just won't hold a communication handshake no matter how you tweak them and there are plenty of threads on other boards to support my statement. As for the weak antenna in the PS3 - sure that is an issue, but not the cause of our groups bane. If you have a router with poor range and proximity to the PS3 then the antenna strength becomes apparent, however only once you are able to actually make a stable communication link, does that become a problem for some.

1)

In my experience, the percentage labeled "Signal Strength" the XMB shows you does not accurately represent the SNR the PS3 experiences.

Your AP should be able to tell you what SNR it sees for the PS3. Go by that number instead.

I also experienced the repeated disconnections...every 20 seconds or more erratically after I moved the PS3 a little.
I still believe those occur because of the poor SNR.

2)

I have 2 laptops and Xbox 360 connected wirelessly. I placed one of the laptop in the same spot as the PS3. SNR was above 50. I placed the PS3 in that same spot. SNR was 17. Again, those are SNR measurements reported by my AP, not the laptop or the PS3.

11g should somewhat work better than 11b, but, fundamentally, the PS3 has an issue. I don't know if it's software or hardware.

So, if you are going to replace your AP in the hope of solving these problems, don't expect miracles.
Dralt - let me ask you this: did you download 1.1 wirelessly? If you did you would have had to set up a wireless connection first and you should have noted no wireless disconnects. But right after the download and install - bam - disconnects. So as far as I am concerned my router and PS3 connect fine until 1.1 and now they don't. That doesn't seem like a hardware problem - that is a software/firmware update problem.

So that sets up reply to point 1. SNR - I now know you should check it on the router and before you brought it up I didn't even know what it was. But if I do my "gross" measurement with my (b) router = 85% signal strength at 20 ft, 100% signal strength at 0 ft - but disconnects at each distance. There is a fundament connection link that is not established to hold that connection. SNR in my eyes is not responsible for the lack of holding a connection.

So on to point 2. I have one laptop that while in the same room as the PS3 with the (b) router was 100% signal strength, moved an additional 25ft from the router to the bedroom and solid 85-100% with no disconnects. In fact the laptop has been stable the entire time = again an arguement for a problem with the PS3 communication with the router. So I decide to get a (b/g) router that people here are reporting few connection problems with. In the end I still have a laptop with great connectivity and now a PS3 with solid signal connectivity and no drops of a connection. So yes I can expect miracles, just by changing the router.

In all I agree with you the PS3 has issues, but from my end and it appears to be a software issue that generated an inability to communicate with my (b) router properly (among others). All I did was change routers and I'm good to go.

*moved from another thread*





Dralt - let me ask you this: did you download 1.1 wirelessly? If you did you would have had to set up a wireless connection first and you should have noted no wireless disconnects. But right after the download and install - bam - disconnects. So as far as I am concerned my router and PS3 connect fine until 1.1 and now they don't. That doesn't seem like a hardware problem - that is a software/firmware update problem.

So that sets up reply to point 1. SNR - I now know you should check it on the router and before you brought it up I didn't even know what it was. But if I do my "gross" measurement with my (b) router = 85% signal strength at 20 ft, 100% signal strength at 0 ft - but disconnects at each distance. There is a fundament connection link that is not established to hold that connection. SNR in my eyes is not responsible for the lack of holding a connection.

So on to point 2. I have one laptop that while in the same room as the PS3 with the (b) router was 100% signal strength, moved an additional 25ft from the router to the bedroom and solid 85-100% with no disconnects. In fact the laptop has been stable the entire time = again an arguement for a problem with the PS3 communication with the router. So I decide to get a (b/g) router that people here are reporting few connection problems with. In the end I still have a laptop with great connectivity and now a PS3 with solid signal connectivity and no drops of a connection. So yes I can expect miracles, just by changing the router.

In all I agree with you the PS3 has issues, but from my end and it appears to be a software issue that generated an inability to communicate with my (b) router properly (among others). All I did was change routers and I'm good to go.

Listen, I am not trying to convince you and I am not trying to belittle your findings either.

Let's hope changing your router produced more than a fluke.

My current AP is a Linksys WRT54GL and I was experiencing the same problem.

Indeed, I updated over wireless, so it's probably a software issue, although I don't understand what kind of software issue could cause such a low SNR.

I do know a low SNR can cause what Sony calls "disconnections".

So, let's hope your initial observations hold and let's hope Sony fixes the software.

Listen, I am not trying to convince you and I am not trying to belittle your findings either.

Let's hope changing your router produced more than a fluke.

My current AP is a Linksys WRT54GL and I was experiencing the same problem.

Indeed, I updated over wireless, so it's probably a software issue, although I don't understand what kind of software issue could cause such a low SNR.

I do know a low SNR can cause what Sony calls "disconnections".

So, let's hope your initial observations hold and let's hope Sony fixes the software.I never thought you were doing anything more than having a polite conversation. I guess I just found it hard to believe that SNR could the culprit due to my conversation with others like Dagg21 who changed to a netgear router and "poof" it works.

What's really odd is that the new router I'm using is WRT54G v 6.0 (no additional letters). Now why would an almost identical router work fine and yours not? I hope sony can get their act together soon. I know my wife was pissed I purchased a new router to go with a new $600 toy.

If it will help - how do I check the SNR? If you tell me how I can check that I will tell you what my PS3 is registering and see if that shed's some light on the situation. I'm open to other factors influencing the PS3/router issue - but I stand firm with software issues as the primary culprit.

ps. PS3 approx 12-15 ft from router in an enclosed audio tower against the room wall that separates the PS3 from direct line of site to the router. It is near the doorway into the other room with the router though.

I never thought you were doing anything more than having a polite conversation. I guess I just found it hard to believe that SNR could the culprit due to my conversation with others like Dagg21 who changed to a netgear router and "poof" it works.

What's really odd is that the new router I'm using is WRT54G v 6.0 (no additional letters). Now why would an almost identical router work fine and yours not? I hope sony can get their act together soon. I know my wife was pissed I purchased a new router to go with a new $600 toy.

If it will help - how do I check the SNR? If you tell me how I can check that I will tell you what my PS3 is registering and see if that shed's some light on the situation. I'm open to other factors influencing the PS3/router issue - but I stand firm with software issues as the primary culprit.

ps. PS3 approx 12-15 ft from router in an enclosed audio tower against the room wall that separates the PS3 from direct line of site to the router. It is near the doorway into the other room with the router though.

Sorry, I am currently running an alternative firmware on my Linksys devices (http://www.dd-wrt.com), which offers more features and stability.

I don't remember the page on the Linksys firmware where you can see the SNR of each client. I thought there was a status page where you can check which wireless clients are currently associated with the AP.

If your new AP works fine for you, then don't worry about it.

You could run this test:

On a machine directly attached to the AP, open a Windows command prompt, then run the following command...

ping -n 1000000 <the IP address of your PS3>

Let it run for 20 minutes, then Ctrl-C it and it will print a summary of the test. Post this summary here...
I would be curious to see what you get...in particular I would like to see how much packet loss you have...

I'm running the ping right now...you've got 13 more minutes for the results.


So here are the results:

Packets: Sent = 1163, Received = 1159, Lost = 4 (0% loss)
ARRT: Min = 1ms, Maximum = 104ms, Avg = 2ms

What does it mean though?

I'm running the ping right now...you've got 13 more minutes for the results.


So here are the results:

Packets: Sent = 1163, Received = 1159, Lost = 4 (0% loss)
ARRT: Min = 1ms, Maximum = 104ms, Avg = 2ms

What does it mean though?

These results are great!

These are timings for round trips between the AP and the PS3.

The minimum round trip (from the AP to the PS3 and back) was 1 ms.
The maximum round trip was 104 ms, which is a bit high, but no worries.
The average round trip took 2 ms, which is very good.

Little or no packet loss. I used to have 18% packet loss.

So, for some weird reason, your new AP seems to get along with the PS3.

This points to a firmware issue even more.

Thanks for running the test.

I heard there is a new update today, I wonder if my old router will work now. I may try just for giggles.

Does anybody have any experience with the Belkin N1 router. My friend can not get the PS3 online at all now through that router, even using a direct wired solution instead of wireless. The funny thing is that it appears to be a DNS host issue as he can download the system update from Sony via the internet, but can not resolve any URL in the browser. He keeps getting an error saying unable to resolve server name. If you type the IP address in directly in the browser, it launches the website. Anybody have any ideas? We have already tried disabling automatic on the DNS settings and typing the IP address of the primary DNS server directly in the PS3, but no joy. The only other issue is that my friend has wildblue, which is a sattelite provider. The X360 and all his computers work fine however, so this is definitely a PS3/router or Wildblue issue. By the way, everything worked fine originally with 1.0 firmware on the PS3 before the 1.1 update with his old Linksys router hooked up wirelessly.

I have a belkin N1 router as well and I do have internet connection. My connection is slow at the current moment but still hammering out all the settings as I purchased my N1 used and came with no manual and the setup cd doesn't work for some reason. Dralt has been assisting me on this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=759001 and at this point I think it has to do with the settings. I was getting 95% connection but slow speeds. As of this morning I could not ping my ps3 (and yes it was on) so I don't know how fast the connection is. I also did the port forwarding and enabled the uPnp or whatever and checked my connection status and now it's dropped to 80% low and goes to 100%!

In my case I think I just need to figure out how to properly setup this router before I start pointing fingers. I know this doesn't help you but I wanted to let you know that at least one person is able to use the N1 router with the PS3......just not with optimum performance, yet.

Thanks,

J

Yea, we took the wireless part of the router out of the equation for now by direct connecting, but it is very weird as I can connect to the internet, but not by using any URLS, only by direct IP addresses only. There is some type of DNS problem it appears while using the N1 and Wildblue, but it may just be firmware 1.1 and either.

I am very good at setting up routers and have probably set up 10 systems for freinds and myself in the past using all of the tricks (port forwarding, DMZ, etc.) I have many IT professionals at work as well to ask questions if I run into a problem, but this one has everyone stumped. My money is on a screwed up firmware version.

I wish I could answer the part about the new firmware but as fate would have it when I was setting up my router when I got it, the ps3 instantly asked for the new firmware so never got a chance to use it with 1.10.

Thanks,

J

I have a belkin N1 router as well and I do have internet connection. My connection is slow at the current moment but still hammering out all the settings as I purchased my N1 used and came with no manual and the setup cd doesn't work for some reason. Dralt has been assisting me on this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=759001 and at this point I think it has to do with the settings. I was getting 95% connection but slow speeds. As of this morning I could not ping my ps3 (and yes it was on) so I don't know how fast the connection is. I also did the port forwarding and enabled the uPnp or whatever and checked my connection status and now it's dropped to 80% low and goes to 100%!

In my case I think I just need to figure out how to properly setup this router before I start pointing fingers. I know this doesn't help you but I wanted to let you know that at least one person is able to use the N1 router with the PS3......just not with optimum performance, yet.

Thanks,

J

You're in luck, Belkin has the manual and latest firmware for your router available online. You may download both at this address:

http://www.belkin.com/support/download.asp?lang=1&download=F5D8231-4&mode=

You don't have to do this, but I always make sure these wireless devices have the latest version of the firmware installed.

For the rest of your configuration, it's very difficult to tell you what to do since I don't know what your network looks like.

If you have specific questions, I will try to answer them.

I have the Belkin Pre-N Router...awesome router btw.......and I was suffering from horrible download times and I kept getting a connection error which would make me start from scratch on every download.

Got into the router settings and enabled uPnP on the router and it now downloads at least twice as fast and hasnt disconnected on me once.

Hope this helps anyone with simular issues.

You're in luck, Belkin has the manual and latest firmware for your router available online. You may download both at this address:

http://www.belkin.com/support/download.asp?lang=1&download=F5D8231-4&mode=

You don't have to do this, but I always make sure these wireless devices have the latest version of the firmware installed.

For the rest of your configuration, it's very difficult to tell you what to do since I don't know what your network looks like.

If you have specific questions, I will try to answer them.


Yeah the manual is what I've been complaining about. That's the first thing I did and IMO it could be a LOT better. Firmware already up to date, also one of the first things I checked (my mistake I should've mentioned that earlier). :(

I got a motorola sbs120 (I think) surfboard Modem going to my belkin N1 router running to my computer and then my ps3 about 15 feet away. I do have connection and am able to download and ect but it's slow. Don't get me wrong the first thing I thought before I got my router and had it hard wired was that it was slow but with the router it's twice as slow, if not more.

On my PS3 a few things changed once I did the port forwarding & enabled the Mac address and Upnp which are:

Nat type went from 3 to 2
My connection range that I've noticed went from 90% to 100% down to 80% to 100%
now I have a message about Proxy Server not in use which wasn't there before as I have everything written down.

I'm also using wpa psk AES
MTU is automatic
Address settings:automatic
Channel:6

That's all I know but I figure this is something I'll end up having to figure out on my own.....but any and all help appreciated.

Thanks,

J

Edit got ping working and here it is:

1st attempt:
sent 4, received 3 =25% loss

minimum time 1ms, Maximum time 1ms, average 1ms


(2 thru 6 same as first) 7th time

sent 4, received 4 = 0% loss
min time 1ms, max time 3ms, avg time 1 ms

also did what you initially recommended:


ping -n 1000000 <IP address of your PS3>

Let it run for 30 minutes or so.



And got this (let it run for a long time):

sent 2959, received 2538 = 14% loss
min time 0ms, max time 101ms, avg time 2ms

also did what you initially recommended:


ping -n 1000000 <IP address of your PS3>

Let it run for 30 minutes or so.



And got this (let it run for a long time):

sent 2959, received 2538 = 14% loss
min time 0ms, max time 101ms, avg time 2ms

What that says is: Every time your router sends 100 packets, 14 get lost and need to be resent.

This certainly contributes to the problem.

The problem with these wireless devices is the number of configuration parameters that come into play. Ideally, many would need to be adjusted depending on your situation.

Do you have Xbox 360 or a laptop you could place in the same spot as your PS3?

If you do, put the 360 or the laptop in the same spot your PS3 occupies and perform the same "ping" test.

You're in luck, Belkin has the manual and latest firmware for your router available online. You may download both at this address:

http://www.belkin.com/support/download.asp?lang=1&download=F5D8231-4&mode=

You don't have to do this, but I always make sure these wireless devices have the latest version of the firmware installed.

For the rest of your configuration, it's very difficult to tell you what to do since I don't know what your network looks like.

If you have specific questions, I will try to answer them.

The problem with Belkin is that is not the newest firmware addition, which is a bunch of crap. My friends firmware revision is 2.0.xx I have no idea why Belkin has an older firmware revision on their site. They also are basically no help for troubleshooting with the PS3. I have the Belkin pre-N router and seem to have no problems with the PS3 on my network, hooked up wired. But Belkin is terrible for support. My biggest problem with the pre-N Belkin is that I can not forward port 88 for Xbox live as the webserver for configuration uses that port. I hate that all these routers only have one IP for the DMZ as well, which is rediculous with all of these different game systems that I want outside my firewall.

any idea how they got 2.0? Well I'm once again at work so I can't do any more tweaking till tonight.

I did call belkin and they told me to change my mtu settings when I get home and use www.dslreports.com/ ?????? (couldn't get that last part DRTCD or T?) and download something to my desktop to get my current mtu settings. I'm not real happy about this as the manual urges you to leave this alone as it may mess up the internet connection.

Anyways that site looks like it has some nice tools I can use later tonight :) In addition to the ports that Dralt suggested using for port forwarding or virtual server or what not a Sony rep (Sandra) said to use these additional ports:

TCP: 80 to 80 (sounded like the last part of the ip or something and she assured me it wasn't)

UDP:50000 to 50000
6000 to 7000

Well I hope this helps me out as sony officially told me they do not recommend using wifi as it is always slower compared to ethernet connection (but twice as slow?) and stated the main reason they chose to include it in their system was due to customer demand. I've spoke to two different reps who said the same thing and both said they haven't had any reports of issues with the wifi in the ps3 or the speed of their website.


Edit: http://www.dslreports.com/drtcp google is your friend :)

Thanks,

J

No it didn't help. I thought for a second it did. It boosted my signal strenght to 95-100% all the time but still had the disconnect issue.
Will try that tonight when i get home.
I agree, I think it is firmware incompatibility with (b) only routers and predominantly Linksys since most of the people reporting problems are running (b) routers. VegasFlyby changed to a (g) and had no troubles. I think I am going to go (g) Friday but if anyone else can confirm this before I do it would be greatly appreciated. I would hate to purchase it and still be stuck. Anyone have a friend with a Linksys (g) that can be borrowed to test the PS3 on?

ps...still awaiting a call back from sony "tech" support.

Has anyone heard back from the Sony Research department???

I am having the same issue and I can't tell you how frustrated it makes me. Did we all do a system upgrade right out of the box? I don't know if I even had 1.10 on my PS3. I've heard that the original firmware was 1.02.

I really don't want to get another router. Outside of the cost expense, I still have to ensure that it is going to stay compatible with my 360, PSP, and Macs as well as the PS3, which mysteriously doesn't have a list of known compatible hardware.

Has anyone heard back from the Sony Research department???

I am having the same issue and I can't tell you how frustrated it makes me. Did we all do a system upgrade right out of the box? I don't know if I even had 1.10 on my PS3. I've heard that the original firmware was 1.02.

I really don't want to get another router. Outside of the cost expense, I still have to ensure that it is going to stay compatible with my 360, PSP, and Macs as well as the PS3, which mysteriously doesn't have a list of known compatible hardware.I heard back from a Sony person on the 27th or the 30th - not quite in the 24-48 hour window they were telling me. Completely non-knowledgable of the situation. I relayed my problem and asked that Sony look into the oddity of various routers from the same company not working including routers that are essentially the same but slightly different models ie: WRT54G/WRT54GS but not WRT54GL or WRT54GX - what gives? Will that ever happen? Unlikely. But if more and more people call - hopefulluy something will come out of it.

I will say this for the people that don't want to wait for Sony...either go wired or pick up a new router off the list we compiled in the other thread (wireless poll) from a CC or BB, and make sure you have a return policy. I did that when debating between a linksys like I already had or a netgear. I went for cost (cheaper) but was told that if it doesn't work I could exchange it. That was dealmaker to try the cheap one first. Worked out of the box with no hassles. My guess is that Sony will never address this issue or if they do it will be quite a while from now.

I have not come across this issue in any of the posts, so maybe its just me. Any help would be appreciated.

I'm trying to connect wirelessly and I've had success with no protection or using WEP protection. But when I attempt to connect using WPA, I get an error saying that a connection to the access point could not be established. I'm entering the network key exactly as it appears on my router, I even changed it to a simple 8 character key and that didn't help.

Does anyone have any suggestions???

I think I need some help. Up until yesterday all I had was dail up. DSL and Cable were not offered where I live so I had to go with Hughesnet satellite internet. I know I can't use this for online gaming because there is a 8 second delay. All I want it for is downloading updates, game demos, etc. I have it hooked up to a lynksys wrt300n router on the main floor of my house. My PS3 is in my basement directly below the router. My signal fluctuates between 62 to 75%. Other than being kinda slow I have no problem with web browsing and I have also downloaded game trailers with no problems. My only problem is downloading game demos. Either it starts the download and then stops because "An error occurred during the install operation" or it doesn't start at all and it says "An error occurred during the download operation" I have also tried hooking it up directly to the modem and I get the same errors. The farthest I have gotten in to a download is 26% before I got an error. Can anyone help me out or should I just call Sony.

If anyone cares to read my entire situation in this lengthy post, it will address the reason why I think that the wifi card in my 60GB is junk and that also the Playstation store is having serious issues communicating with certain people's ISPs.

I've had my PS3 for a week now.

My equipment:
Linksys WRT54G v.1.1 router updated with the latest Linksys firmware
WPA security
PS3 has been set up with a static IP, all ports opened and DMZ enabled
I'm on a regional cable provider with 3MB download/512k upload speed

On my wireless network, I have:
PS3
Xbox 360 using the official Xbox360 USB wireless adapter sitting 1 foot away from my PS3
A laptop that I use about 4 feet away from my gaming systems.
My router is 2 flights of stairs and about 50-75 feet away from all of this.

The first night I got my PS3, I got around 70-75% signal strength. I always get 4 full green bars maximum signal strength at the Xbox 360 dashboard and on my laptop I always get 3 or 4 green bars signal strength.

It took me approximately 2 hours to download the first firmware update. I then tried to download the 500MB Motorstorm demo and the download bar would barely move. I didn't have time to sit there and wait so I decided to try it the next morning when hopefully network congestion wouldn't be as bad and maybe I could get a faster download. I started the Motorstorm demo around 7am and left the house. I came back around 10am and it was about 97% done. It took a good 3-4 hours to download this demo. I then tried at various points throughout the week to download some of the 100MB videos and using a timer and watching the bar move, it would take approximately 2 hours to download 100MB.

On my Xbox 360 and laptop, it takes about 6-8 minutes to download a 100MB file. My first thoughts were that the Playstation network is just having problems, but just to make sure it wasn't my wifi, I ran an ethernet cord from my wireless router, downstairs to the PS3... the download speeds DRAMATICALLY increased. I downloaded the F1 demo (800mb) in about an hour. It would have taken me 5-6 hours to download it over my wifi.

I decided to call Sony on Saturday and tell them that I think my wifi card is bad because I've got other devices sitting close to the PS3 that don't take near as long to download. They told me that my 75% signal strength wasn't good enough to get fast download speeds and they couldn't do anything to help me, but the did give suggestions that were basically worthless.

I then re-situated my router to the point where I was getting about 90-95% signal strenghth and the download speed did not change.

I went to speakeasy.net and tried the speedtests through the PS3 web browser. I am located in Indiana. On the Chicago and Atlanta servers closest to me, I would get about 1.5MB download speed, and damn near my max 512k upload speed. On servers farther away in Los Angeles, Seattle, Washington DC, San Francisco, and New York, I would only get about 400-600k , yes KILOBYTES download speed and my upload speed would still be close to my 512k max. In some cases during the tests, my upload speed would be faster than my download speed.

I then tried these same tests on my laptop sitting next to the PS3. I would consistently get anywhere from 2.0-2.5MB download speed through my laptop no matter which server I would try, no matter how far away from my physical location.

The evidence was mounting that my wifi card in the PS3 was junk.

Just as an added measure, I turned off all security and the speeds didn't increase with the PS3. I then tried WEP and still slow download speeds.

I was at my wits end with this thing because I did every troubleshooting step humanly possible. I was prepared to call Sony back and INSIST that they swap my PS3 for another one because of the wifi card.

Then things got a little bit interesting...

Last night they released the 1.3 firmware upgrade and my PS3 would not even connect at all. It kept timing out and giving me a connection error every time I tried to download the update. I tried it again at 7am this morning thinking that maybe their network wouldn't be flooded and again, I got nothing but timeout errors.

This afternoon, I decided to run that wire again from my router and finally snag this update. I plugged the wire in, and this time it didn't time-out, but the speeds were incredibly SLOOOOOWWW. It took about an hour and a half to download the update on a Wired connection. I then decided to try downloading the Motorstorm demo again over the wired connection just to see if it was slow also. Well... its been 2 and half hours now and its sitting at 27%, on my wired connection.

So I don't know what to think at this point. I've eliminated it being my ISP, just because of the fact that the speedtests I ran on my laptop were much faster than on my PS3. It could be a faulty wifi card, and this is what I believed until I tried the wired connection again today. I've done everything I can possibly do at my end to make this thing work, the only other thing left is to pray to the internet gods for some cyber intervention.

i don't know what to say to those that are having download issues other then perhaps packet loss or the built in Wifi isn't as strong as one would like.

i'm personally, not having any issues with long downloads, but then again my wireless router is only 2 rooms away. how far are you guys from your router? and is there possible interference from a 2.4GHz phone?

it took me about 10 minutes to download the new patch and about another 15 minutes to download the GTHD Ferrari trailer. but then again, i only started downloading till after 1AM so that could be the reason for it?

It's not your wireless network, its not your connection, its not the PS3. Its the Sony Server site that's unstable and dog ass slow. I'm downloading the patch through my PC straight from Sony's website. I've got cable 5Mbs down/512 up and my download speed is a blistering 30-40 kb/s right now. It will take me about 45 min. to download v1.30 at 97.3mb file size. Don't bang your head against the wall trying to troubleshoot your network when its Sony's end that's slow. Nothin' we can do about that.

bill0527, I had same trouble as you and I have the compact version of your router. I couldn't get a connection at all last night. Luckily I got caught up playing Resistance and tried again at midnight after moving my router to get an 85% Signal Strength. Then I had no problem and guess what....after 1.3 the browser is almost as fast as on my laptop. And I downloaded Blast Factor (79 Meg) in 2 minutes.

So just give it some time. It'll be worth it.

Hi @ all

Is there anyone who has checked this settings ?

I have an Netgear WGR614 V4 Router and can´t get the ps3 working on it with WPA :( !!

My laptop has no problems with it.

I hope anyone can help :)

I have the linksys Model BEFW11S4 802.11b and have has the Disconnected from the access point issue for 3 weeks withtout resolve. Called Sony, Called Linksys which they say to upgrade firmware to fix "NOT". I tried WEP, No Security, WPA, port forwarding, assigning Ip addresses Nothing worked. I finally decided to try to disable the broadcasting of my SSID. This for me immediately fixed the issue. I was able to stay connected. I know all routers have the ability to turn this off. Give it a try and let me know if this works for anyone else.

Good Luck

I have the linksys Model BEFW11S4 802.11b and have has the Disconnected from the access point issue for 3 weeks withtout resolve. Called Sony, Called Linksys which they say to upgrade firmware to fix "NOT". I tried WEP, No Security, WPA, port forwarding, assigning Ip addresses Nothing worked. I finally decided to try to disable the broadcasting of my SSID. This for me immediately fixed the issue. I was able to stay connected. I know all routers have the ability to turn this off. Give it a try and let me know if this works for anyone else.

Good Luck

I have the linksys Model BEFW11S4 802.11b and have has the Disconnected from the access point issue for 3 weeks withtout resolve. Called Sony, Called Linksys which they say to upgrade firmware to fix "NOT". I tried WEP, No Security, WPA, port forwarding, assigning Ip addresses Nothing worked. I finally decided to try to disable the broadcasting of my SSID. This for me immediately fixed the issue. I was able to stay connected. I know all routers have the ability to turn this off. Give it a try and let me know if this works for anyone else.

Good Luck
Your a few weeks behind...but I'm glad you figured in out. A poster here found this fix on 12/21/06 - I posted it in a few spots and forums but sometimes people just don't see them as they fade into oblivion. Check out the sticky (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=754875) at the top of the page and definately refer people to that sticky if they are having difficulties with their routers. It's good to know which ones work and those that don't.

Your a few weeks behind...but I'm glad you figured in out. A poster here found this fix on 12/21/06 - I posted it in a few spots and forums but sometimes people just don't see them as they fade into oblivion. Check out the at the top of the page and definately refer people to that sticky if they are having difficulties with their routers. It's good to know which ones work and those that don't.


Wish I would have found those other posts. I was able to keep it working with WEP all of the other security functions but just not with broadcasting the SSID go figure. Thanks for the reply DOG.

When I disabled SSID on my BEFW11S4, my wife's PC (about 15 feet across the room) would not connect via her WUSB11. Her PC said no wireless network was in range. When I enabled SSID again, her PC connected quickly. What can I do, in order to keep her PC connected and connect my PS3 when it arrives tomorrow? TIA.

Jim

I had this problem as well with a:

Airlink 101 525w router
1.32 ps3 fw
PS3 60 gig

I got a airlink 101 3112 wireless repeater and it is 10ft away and now i have 100% signal....before on router only it was 30%.....my router is 50 ft away.......my laptop works everywhere.......also, i tested the bandwidth on my ps3 and it is at 1.1 mb even though i have a 6mb connection....??
Can you people start posting relevant info such as :
1-router brand
2-distance away from ps3
3-fw of ps3
4-and also test your speed

this would help narrow the issues down...

When I disabled SSID on my BEFW11S4, my wife's PC (about 15 feet across the room) would not connect via her WUSB11. Her PC said no wireless network was in range. When I enabled SSID again, her PC connected quickly. What can I do, in order to keep her PC connected and connect my PS3 when it arrives tomorrow? TIA.

Jim
First the obvious, Do Not disable SSID broadcasting.

I know it is tempting to do what worked for someone else, without thinking about it, but it can cause real headaches down the road. It has never made sense that disabling SSID broadcasts would solve any PS3 problem, but technology being what it is they were smart to take whatever worked for them. Sooner or later, someone will luck up on the real solution, but let's hope that you won't have a problem with your new PS3. <--Congrats, btw!

Thanks, AmigaDude. :) Thanks, too, for giving me the PS3's power consumption specs yesterday. :)

I got my BEFW11S4 4 years ago, set it up and have left it alone, since my PC and my wife's PC have been able to network okay since then. When I do get my PS3 later today, since I am NOT router savvy (having not messed with them in 4 years), what steps (detailed as you care to provide) do you recommend that I take to add the PS3 to my wireless network? BTW, the PS3 will be in another room, about 35-40 feet from my router.

Also, due to my rural location, I access the internet via a hughes.net satellite dish connected to my router. Based on info I read on sites related to the hughes.net system, under IE's Tools|Internet Options|Connections|Lan settings..., I have Proxy Server enabled to use 192.168.0.1 (port 87). I dont' know if this makes any difference when adding the PS3 to my network, but I thought I'd tell you in case it does. In fact, I found that I have to disable the Proxy Server in order to access my router's settings, then reenable the Proxy Server when I'm done.

Thanks again. :)

Jim

um... you know you can manually enter the SSID on the client (ie wife's computer) and not broadcast the SSID, and have it work right? just go into the wireless client that you're wife is already using to connect and configure it.

i'm also wondering how disabling SSID would help a PS3 connect to a wireless router. that just seems odd or we're not getting all the info.

When I went into my wife's PC, I could see the SSID (linksys), but it was grayed out, and I couldn't figure out how to "activate" it. I had disabled SSID Broadcast on my router, because others had posted that doing so allowed their PS3 to work on their network. I'm still awaiting delivery of my PS3 (probably late today); I don't have a clue what to do anyway. :)

I was unduly worried! :)

I received my PS3 late today, hooked it up to my TV's DVI input via the monoprice.com HDMI Switcher and a HDMI-DVI cable and to my receiver via an optical audio cable. Only Blu-Ray DVD I bought (to try it out) was "Phantom of the Opera." My wife and I thought the picture quality was awesome! (We already had the SD DVD of it.) Even the closing credits (white text on black background) are much crisper than is the norm with SD DVDs. Watched it at 1080i, as I think that looks somewhat better on my TV than 720p.

After we watched the movie, and my wife went to bed, I read through the manual on wireless network. Followed the instructions, and it connected to my 4-year-old Linksys BEFW11S4 router with no problem! Got abt 35% signal strength from about 40 feet away. I did NOT have to disable SSID Broadcast; I also have no security enabled (where I live there's little danger, I think). I selected "Easy" settings in my PS3. I began the internet connection test, and it told me I needed to download a System Update. I did (got v1.32; probably took me half an hour), then tried connecting to the internet. No problem! Much slower than via my PC, but at least it works. :)

Thanks to all who participate in the AVS forums and help each other out!

Jim

This might help out. It will let your PS3 use an ethernet cable. I haven't tested yet, but this does seem to be an issue with the PS3 and not an issue with any packet loss due to wireless connectivity per say. I will report back once I test it out.

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-WET54G-Wireless-G-Ethernet-Bridge/dp/B00008WMBT

Jim - Congrats on the new PS3, and especially on getting it to work easily. I would've been very reluctant suggesting any changes to a network that is working, and has been for 4 years. Basic networking is rather simple, but one little change can muck up absolutely everything. I've listened to alot of recommendations lately that are, lets just say - Not Well Thought Out. :rolleyes:

Case in point - JosephD05 exactly what are you trying to do? You bought a Wired->Wireless Bridge which is meant for machines that do not have Wireless capabilities. So, now you will have to tell the PS3 to use the Wired connection then setup the bridge for you Wireless network? :confused:

Jim - Congrats on the new PS3, and especially on getting it to work easily. I would've been very reluctant suggesting any changes to a network that is working, and has been for 4 years. Basic networking is rather simple, but one little change can muck up absolutely everything. I've listened to alot of recommendations lately that are, lets just say - Not Well Thought Out. :rolleyes:

Case in point - JosephD05 exactly what are you trying to do? You bought a Wired->Wireless Bridge which is meant for machines that do not have Wireless capabilities. So, now you will have to tell the PS3 to use the Wired connection then setup the bridge for you Wireless network? :confused:

Exactly. To the PS3, it will be wired. The bridge handles the wireless traffic. I think the problem stems from the PS3s wifi adapter and/or software dropping out. I do this for a living (network engineer), so I think its worth a shot. I'm actually going to use a game adapter, which is essentially the same thing. Basically to the PS3, it's layer 2 traffic is over ethernet. The bridge passes this traffic over WIFI. My signal strenght is between 60-80 via a wifi extender.

You may be correct on the PS3's software, but it's probably not the hardware.

I started a not so quick download test (Genji 500MB+) and plotted the results of line utilization going into my DSL router (via 10Mbs Enet link). Both the Wired and the Wireless (56Mbs) were connected to the same router.

1) Via Wired: link varied 2 -> 13%, averaging around 10% (equivalent of 1Mbs download)
2) Stopped after 10 minutes, since nothing really changed it was just continuing..
3) Via Wireless: link varied 1-> 5%, averaging around 2% (equivalent of 200Kbs download)
4) Thought, hey maybe you're onto something and take a break
5) Wireless link now pegged at 33% (equivalent of ~3Mbs download, my usual max out)

This is a single test, so it does not prove anything. It does however, start making it look like the PS Network is the real issue here.

I'm having some trouble getting my PS3 to access the PS Network. I can download Software Updates and surf the web but I can't access the Network. I called Sony and they said some PS3's need ports opened on the router in order to access the PS Network. The ports I was told to open were:

TCP 10070-10080
UDP 10070

My question is how do I do this? I have a Motorola SBG900 wireless modem gateway. I can't find any documentation on how to do this. Any help would be appreciated.

I am happy to say that my theory was right on the money. Ladies and Gents, just buy a Linksys wireless G gaming adapter and your problems are solved. Just to make sure, I tried to play online RFOM with just the wifi card, and nothing. I couldn't even connect. The times that I did connect to my account, the update requred for the game failed without even downloading 1percent. As soon as I used the wired connection via the gaming adapter (nothing but a wireless bridge), I was able to do everything PERFECTLY. I know it sounds ridiculous that we have to shy away from using the built in WIFI card, but this works for now. I just hope this issue gets resolved in future firmware updates. I am using a Linksys game adapter btw.

OH and to correct myself from before, I meant layer one not two.

I'm having a problem with the connecting/disconnecting of the PS3. I have a netgear wgr614v6.0 and it used to work just fine up until recently. Now I notice that its connecting and disconnecting every 30 seconds when I'm downloading or using the browser. I tried changing my SSID and disabling its broadcast but it didn't fix the problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Hi guys im having the same issues or close as many of you. I have the 80gb ps3 and im connected wireless via my dlink router. Ive had this router for three years and never an issue except for my 2.4g wireless phone causing disconections. I switched out the phone for a new one and never a problem again. that is Untill i started running the ps3 on my network . I am able to obtain a connection with the ps3 sometimes after trying to connect multiple times and it usually keeps connected for awhile. It does however randomly drop connection knocking all my comps off the network as well. Each and everytime it trys to connect to the network and fails it knocks the entire network offline. Ive also had theese problems when streaming wirelessly to the ps3 as well . my router is located within two feet of my ps3 so its def not a signal issue when i get 100% generally around my apartment on my laptop.
its almost the same issue i had with the phone years ago and im wondering if its possible that the wifi radio in the ps3 might not be sending out a signal at 2.4 gz that interferes with our routers breaking the connection. The problem for me seems to be at random intervals as if theres something refreshing or re comunicating with the router that causes this dropped connection .

I am able to maintain connections for extended periods of time, just with random drops.

Just go Wired if you have the option, i did a speed test comparing wireless and wired connections using the PS3 webrowser and Wired connections are so much faster it's not even funny,the results were pretty dramatic.

and my wireless router was in the room next door to me at 100% signal strength and still it's not comparable to wired.

Just go wired IMHO.. less headaches.

guys i have a Linksys wireless-g 2.4ghz broadband router. is this the one you have joseph? i hope i dont have to buy a new router.

Please help!
I'm trying to set up a wireless network for a friend. They have a Dell Dimension 8200 PC (Windows XP) connected to the internet via a (broadband) BT Voyager 105 USB ADSL Modem & a new Toshiba A100 Laptop (Windows Vista) which they want to use wirelessly.
So, i've set up a network on the laptop (the PC has no ethernet connection) & configured a D-Link Wireless router (DSL-G624T) which is connected to the phone line and laptop via ethernet.
The laptop finds the wireless network and connects to it, however I still can't get any internet pages up. Am I missing something really simple? Any info gratefully received! :o)

My wireless connection strength is 100% all the time. and as far as i can see it doesn't keep disconnecting/reconnecting. This problem has occured. Play MGS4 online I create a game and play a couple rounds then get a network error that kiks me out and ends the game for everyone else. Also, playing Rockband 2, i was doing a battle of the bands on my own and kept "losing contact with the rock server" this is the first time thats happend. I am using a D-Link router. Any have any idea what settings should be disabled on my ps3 so this problem stops? Remember my connection is 100% without the reconnect disconnect.. .from what i could see.

Just a few thoughts:

If this is just starting to happen and never happen before there may have been some changes.

Maybe your isp has changed something

Maybe your router is now placed on top of another device that makes heat causing it to heat up and fail

Maybe you added some devices in your house (i..e cordless phone, microwave, etc) which are interfering with the Router

Are you running any other devices while you are playing those games on the PS3?

Maybe there's a computer that is sucking up some of the bandwith and causing the dip in connection.