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DaverJ
11-19-06, 06:11 PM
The following is a list from AVS Forum users to Sony in hopes of identifying home theater enthusiasts wants and needs for future PS3 software updates.

Current version of PS3 system: 1.9

Bugs that need fixing:
-fix the game resolution downconvert for HDTVs without 720p input, i.e. 1080i support for all games
-fix occasional lock-up when entering text in message
-identify/fix problem with controller losing connection
-identify problem with Blu-Ray playback of 640k Dolby Digital stream through the optical cable on certain A/V receivers
-identify problem with certain Motorola Bluetooth headsets not working after 1.7
-fix glitch: playing back full length MPEG2 .ps (program stream) movie from HDD halts abruptly at around 15 minutes


Enhancement requests to improve general operation:
-faster Sony Store downloads (some people report no speed problems)
-improve compatibility with last-gen controllers in PS1/2 mode, PS button restriction (e.g. Guitar Hero SG)
-enhanced IR support via USB dongle (all bluetooth remote commands, including a way to map/assign Playstation button)
-ability to ignore encryption warnings in browser
-folder support for music, photos and videos in XMB
-playlist creator for music, photos and videos in XMB
-automatically switch back to XMB when video playback is done
-ability to randomly shuffle music, photos or videos during playback from HD
-ability to select multiple files and copy them from source to source
-ability to download album art for music in CD or on the hard drive
-add "Album" sub-category after Artist for music on HD
-more variety of music visualizations
-interaction with PSP for media files
-update internet browser's flash player
-add +3 size fonts for browser
-enhanced BlueTooth remote support (number keys and color buttons)
-ability to send game audio, music, and movies, as well as players' voices to BlueTooth stereo headphones
-option to automatically update system if idle
-option to automatically shut console down (standby mode) after downloads complete
-ability to use game saves directly from memory cards without copying to the HDD
-improved Friends List options, including in-game messaging
-support for more than 50 friends in the friends list (at least 100)
-improved Parental Controls: user (log-on) specific with option to make individual music, photo and video categories private or public per user
-ability to capture screenshots in-game and save to hard drive
-group Friend's messages of the same conversation into a thread or a single message
-new category in XMB for game statistics (time played, high scores, etc)
-develop the XMB interface into game and movie playback
-improve keyboard/mouse support while in web browser mode (e.g. keyboard function keys, editing mouse attributes, etc.)
-ability to adjust volume of background music under game category of XMB
-system start-up with the controller should require longer controller button hold down
-ability to map keys on SIXAXIS and save as a "keymap set list"
-ability to charge controller while in standby/off
-option to allow a guest or second PlayStation account login on the same system for off-line and on-line multiplayer
-ability to use multiple wireless headsets on the same system, possibly tied to multiple log-ins, with optional on-screen indicator
-zoom for BD/DVD

Enhancement requests to improve technical operation:
-WiFi high latency and high packet loss are frequent
-display of wireless protocol in the Settings and Connections Status List
-RSS channel support
-support for Apple Lossless Audio Files
-support for FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec)
-output frequencies added in 1.9 break DTS-CD playback over HDMI. (Workaround: disable these frequencies manually)
-support for multiple disk formats on external HDD, such as EXT3, HFS+ and NTFS (including iPods and save games)
-VGA support
-768p support
-ability to send all next gen audio formats via bitsream
-letterbox support for 4:3 HD sets
-1:1 pixel mapping for off-resolutions
-option to resize game screen size
-option to move subtitles in movie mode
-support for separate output resolution based on activity (movie, game, etc.)
-ability to switch resolutions on-the-fly
-ability to simultaneously feed audio through optical and HDMI
-ability to simultaneously feed audio through optical and analog
-Bass management for HDMI out
-detect HDMI and sound automatically, notify if changed through sound config
-8 channel DTS Master Audio lossless to go along with 8 channel Dolby TrueHD
-option to pass raw DSD 1-bit/2.8MHz audio over HDMI
-support for AVI files containing Xvid and ac3 sound with external Unicode SRT subtitles
-support for the .ts files, including ac3 in mpeg2-ts (50 and 60 Hz)
-option to pass-through audio via optical for ac3 mpeg2-ps files
-support for ogg vorbis audio files.
-UPnP AV client (for streaming audio/video content from upnp media servers)
-global YCbCr support
-accelerated video support for the Linux/Other OS environment
-support for GEOP (Generic Object Exchange Profile) in Bluetooth
-improve support for DVI displays
-simultaneous output of HDMI and Multi-AV connection
-ability to reset cooling fan speed to low without restart (only if internal temp is at safe level)

Enhancements added/bugs fixed:
-Dolby Digital loss when going from video (BD, DVD, etc.) to game using optical out - fixed in version 1.11
-larger fonts in browser - fixed in version 1.30
-compatibility with Dual Force Pro Wheel controllers - fixed in version 1.30
-identify problem with 7.1 audio playback on certain A/V receivers (e.g. Denon 3806 & 4306) - problem identified, firmware update needed from Denon
-fix the jaggy display problem with non-progressive PS1/2 games - fixed in version 1.50
-option to not auto sign-in to Playstation Network without unchecking save password - added in version 1.50
-zoom feature for browser - added in version 1.50 (square + R2 or L2)
-ability to download in the background w/ notification when done - fixed in version 1.60
-ability to have multiple downloads happening, or at least queue them up - fixed in version 1.60
-ability to resume interrupted downloads - fixed in version 1.60
-option to allow boot to XMB (with selectable home location) without holding d-pad - fixed in version 1.70
-option for Blu-ray/DVD movies to autoplay when inserted while the system is on - fixed in version 1.70
-support for 720p output during Blu-Ray playback - fixed in 1.80
-up-conversion for DVDs and PS1/2 games - added in 1.80
-option to map studio RGB levels to PC levels for computer monitors - added in 1.80
-Pure 1080p/24 output - added in 1.80
-ability to pick one item in slide show and zoom it up/back - added in 1.80
-more slide show types - one more added in 1.80, more coming in future upgrades?
-intermittent freezes approx. 10 seconds during BD playback, introduced in version 1.5, possibly caused by wifi connection (workaround: disable wireless before watching movie, or reset default settings in XMB) - fixed at some point
-stream pics, movies and music off networked PCs, Macs or NAS devices - added limited support in 1.80
-IR support (USB IR receiver) - see AVS workaround thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9060547&&#post9060547)
-fix bug: "RGB Full" mode resets to "limited" after playing BD/DVD movie and PS2 game - fixed in 1.81
-UPnP support for WiFi access - added at some point
-support for h264 video - added in 1.81
-improve navigation in Sony Store (e.g. map Previous and Next to L1 and R1 buttons) - added in 1.82
-selectable/changeable background themes/skins for XMB - added in 1.9
-user-selectable music during games - ability exists, needs programming on software end
-ability to perform system updates without having to plug in the controller with a USB cable - added in 1.9
-ability to eject disc via controller (Bluetooth remote has this feature) - added in 1.9

If you have a feature that could be handled with a software update, please post it here and I'll add it to the master list above. If anyone has any contacts at Sony, please forward this information to them. It would be great if someone from Sony could participate and let us know what is in the works, and what is not possible via software.

I will update and revise this list as system updates come out.

TwinTurboJosh
11-19-06, 06:16 PM
I agree with most of those requests, but I thought you already could add music to slideshows?

DaverJ
11-19-06, 06:18 PM
I agree with most of those requests, but I thought you already could add music to slideshows?

If there is, I haven't figured out how. :confused:

Anyone accomplish this?

DaverJ
11-19-06, 06:23 PM
Also, I thought about a request for adding rumble support, but I knew better. :D

Hey... this might be why no older controllers will work in PS1/2 mode! ;)

rob_fox
11-19-06, 06:51 PM
This list is really good - even little things I've been nitpicking for like eject from the controller are here, and my current biggest concern, PS1/PS2 games looking terrible, are present. Three more things to edit/add to the list:

1.) Resolve the bug where when you play a Blu-Ray movie there is no sound when you play a game next until you restart the system.
2.) Option to not auto sign-in to Playstation Network without unchecking the save password option (I want to save my password, but I don't want the system to login automatically).
3.) The ability to recognize the .ts extension, to be able to play them sequentially either because they are numbered or via a playlist, and the ability to decode AC3 audio in the MPEG2 Transport Stream. In other words, full transport stream support similiar to how myHD cards, etc handle .ts files.

Keep it going!

PS: What is the Dolby Digital glitch?

Bad_Boy_
11-19-06, 06:59 PM
If there is, I haven't figured out how. :confused:

Anyone accomplish this?
Start your mp3/music file, press the PS button, go to your pictures menu, press triangle and start slideshow.

You can listen to music while web browsing too.

awx
11-19-06, 07:28 PM
Support for playing back of AVI files containing Xvid and AC3 sound with external Unicode SRT subtitles.

Dralt
11-19-06, 08:16 PM
Excellent work, DaverJ, I hope we can move this along.

Yoda1
11-19-06, 09:33 PM
How 'bout: make my PS3 not crash when writing text messages.

Irunnoft
11-19-06, 10:37 PM
I don't know if this has been covered yet or not, but how about the ability to pick up a download that had to be cancelled.

For instance, I'm in the middle of downloading a demo (BTW, is it just me or does this take FOREVER!) and something happens that causes the network to be thrown off for a minute. If this happens, I have to start all over again.

On XBL, whenever you started to download something, if the download was interrupted, it would pick up wherever it left off the next time you began to download it again.

DaverJ
11-19-06, 10:59 PM
1.) Resolve the bug where when you play a Blu-Ray movie there is no sound when you play a game next until you restart the system.
2.) Option to not auto sign-in to Playstation Network without unchecking the save password option (I want to save my password, but I don't want the system to login automatically).
3.) The ability to recognize the .ts extension, to be able to play them sequentially either because they are numbered or via a playlist, and the ability to decode AC3 audio in the MPEG2 Transport Stream. In other words, full transport stream support similiar to how myHD cards, etc handle .ts files.

Keep it going!

PS: What is the Dolby Digital glitch?

Hey Rob...

Thanks for the input. The answer to your P.S. is your #1. ;) I'll add your #2, but I'm confused about #3... can you restate it as simply as possible? .ts files are HD movies, correct? And you are saying the PS3 doesn't play .ts files?

DaverJ
11-19-06, 11:08 PM
Start your mp3/music file, press the PS button, go to your pictures menu, press triangle and start slideshow.

You can listen to music while web browsing too.

Brilliant. I didn't think about trying the PS button... I thought that button just turned the console or controller on/off and stopped the game to get back to the dashboard.

Thanks Bad_Boy -- you just scratched two requests off the list! :cool:

DaverJ
11-19-06, 11:14 PM
... and thanks awx, Yoda1 and Irunnoft for the suggestions -- those have been added to the master list.

Keep 'em coming.

Oh, and I'm DaverJ also on Playstation on-line if anyone wants to add me to their friends list. :)

Dralt
11-19-06, 11:18 PM
The following is a list from AVS Forum users to Sony in hopes of identifying home theater enthusiasts wants and needs for future PS3 software updates.

Current version of PS3 system: 1.10

-fix the 1080i bug and the Dolby Digital glitch
-fix occasional lock-up when entering text in message
-boot to dashboard option
-compatibility with last-gen controllers in PS1/2 compatibility mode
-zoom feature for browser, or larger fonts.
-ability to toggle ignore warning when going from encrypted to non-encrypted in browser
-faster Sony Store downloads
-ability to download in the background w/ notification when done
-ability to have multiple downloads happening, or at least queue them up
-ability to resume interrupted downloads
-system start-up with the controller should require longer button hold down
-eject disc via remote
-more slide show types
-ability to pick one item in slide show and zoom it up/back
-detect HDMI and sound automatically, notify if changed through sound config
-IR support (USB IR receiver)
-stream pics, movies and music off networked PCs or Macs
-Pure 1080p/24 output
-8 channel DTS Master Audio lossless to go along with 8 channel Dolby TrueHD
-fix the jaggy display problem and lag with PS1/2 games
-up-conversion for DVDs and PS1/2 games
-VGA support
-option to not auto sign-in to Playstation Network without unchecking save password
-support for AVI files containing Xvid and AC3 sound with external Unicode SRT subtitles

If you have a feature that could be handled with a software update, please post it here and I'll add it to the master list above. If anyone has any contacts at Sony, please forward this information to them. It would be great if someone from Sony could participate and let us know what is in the works, and what is not possible via software.

I will update and revise this list as system updates come out.

It would be useful to breakdown the list in 2 sections:

1) Defect corrections
2) Enhancement requests

DaverJ
11-19-06, 11:21 PM
It would be useful to breakdown the list in 2 sections:

1) Defect corrections
2) Enhancement requests

Yea, I've been thinking about a better way to arrange this by groups. This should be a good start.

awx
11-20-06, 01:56 AM
Provide some sort of accelerated video support for the Linux/Other OS environment.

jman069
11-20-06, 03:00 AM
maybe a stupid question but how do you queue up your downloads and do other stuff? I haven't really tried as mine is being replaced right now but I don't remember seeing that option. Also has anyone been able to copy demo games and trailers to an external HDD? I tried before having to send it in and it didn't recognize my western digital usb 2.0 external hard drive.

Thanks,

J

Bad_Boy_
11-20-06, 04:40 AM
Brilliant. I didn't think about trying the PS button... I thought that button just turned the console or controller on/off and stopped the game to get back to the dashboard.

Thanks Bad_Boy -- you just scratched two requests off the list! :cool:
No problem. :)
Hopefully someone at Sony is taking note of these great suggestions/requests. :cool:

Brian27
11-20-06, 06:29 AM
That first bug is a BIG ONE :eek: ! I currently have a SONY :confused: rear projection that does not support a native 720p format signal and when it receives one it converts it to 480p. The tv is capable of 1080i and I wish it scaled the signals up not down! The model of my SONY tv is a KP-46WT500 and features a DVI input with no HDMI so I use a hdmi-dvi cable for hook-up. I sure hope this is one of if not THE main concern for sony! I dont want to watch br movies or play br games in 480p! GREAT job putting this list together Daverj ;) ....I hope sony will do something soon :mad:

DaverJ
11-20-06, 08:36 AM
maybe a stupid question but how do you queue up your downloads and do other stuff?
You can't... it's a request we are making to Sony.
Also has anyone been able to copy demo games and trailers to an external HDD? I tried before having to send it in and it didn't recognize my western digital usb 2.0 external hard drive.

This should probably be added to the list. Does anyone know anything about external HD support via USB? It would be it have to be formatted a certain way... possibly available via Unix OS only?

I'm trying to figure out the wording for that last request. :confused:

Dralt
11-20-06, 11:35 AM
You can't... it's a request we are making to Sony.

This should probably be added to the list. Does anyone know anything about external HD support via USB? It would be it have to be formatted a certain way... possibly available via Unix OS only?

I'm trying to figure out the wording for that last request. :confused:

It's an enhancement request and you could label it as "Support for external HDD".

DaverJ
11-20-06, 12:06 PM
It's an enhancement request and you could label it as "Support for external HDD".
Gotcha. ;) Added under the IR support.

Bad_Boy_
11-20-06, 02:39 PM
-boot to dashboard option

I think I kinda found a solution to it. Press the PS button while starting the system, even if you have a disc already in the system it should go to the XMB. Either that or move the directional pad once you see the initial XMB. I'm not quite sure, I'll have to test around with it some more. But I had a game in the system before startup, and it did not boot directly to the game after I turned it on.

Felgar
11-20-06, 02:58 PM
The model of my SONY tv is a KP-46WT500 and features a DVI input with no HDMI so I use a hdmi-dvi cable for hook-up. I sure hope this is one of if not THE main concern for sony! I dont want to watch br movies or play br games in 480p!
A point of clarity and some emphasis on this. I have a 720p panel but I could get much better PQ using 1080i and having the TV downscale (with 3:2 pulldown) than I get with a 720p signal. All of this boils down to simply 1) having a 1080i option on HDMI and 2) using it correctly.

* So for me and a lot of people, 1080i on HDMI is a big one.

Also, the system doesn't offer any config options for refresh rate. I could maybe use 1080p/24 or 1080p/30 over component if the unit would allow me to select it.

What the heck, while we're at it I wouldn't mind seeing a 1366x768 option for all us flat-panel users.

DaverJ
11-20-06, 03:07 PM
I think I kinda found a solution to it. Press the PS button while starting the system, even if you have a disc already in the system it should go to the XMB.

I always start the system with the PS button on the controller, and if a game disk is in it loads the game. Are you saying if you hold the button it won't launch the game?

Slacker George
11-20-06, 05:58 PM
Excellent list.


:D Really minor enhancement:

- The PS button on the controller should light up.

I know on some of the dev units it would light up sometimes. I think when it was charging.

DaverJ
11-20-06, 06:02 PM
- The PS button on the controller should light up.

Would be very cool, but I don't think they could accomplish this with a software update. :D That's what this list is trying to concentrate on.

DaverJ
11-20-06, 11:16 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a 1366x768 option for all us flat-panel users.

Good point Felgar, added 768p to the list.

Dralt
11-21-06, 01:43 AM
I've had zero problems except for a controller that some times loses connection with the ps3. this causes whatever I was doing last to keep happening as opposed to the game just pausing itself like the 360. has got me killed 4 times in resistance. a mild issue imo. overall I'm very pleased. its hooked up to my SXRD through an hdmi 82vsx pioneer elite reciever.

I read about this controller losing connection issue all over the place, we should add it to the list. This is certainly a defect.

Hughmc
11-21-06, 05:26 AM
A PS4. Being facetious here, but by the time all the "necessary" updates are catalogued here, forwarded to Sony and then applied, it won't be a PS3 anymore. :)

DaverJ
11-21-06, 08:20 AM
I read about this controller losing connection issue all over the place, we should add it to the list. This is certainly a defect.

Added. I haven't experienced it yet... and I hope I don't.

Felgar
11-21-06, 11:11 AM
Good point Felgar, added 768p to the list.
Ok, after having confirmed the behaviour on my system where the system is switching to 1080i automatically for Blu-Ray output, I'd like to alter the resolution output change request a bit. Obviously I'd like to see 768p in the list of available resolutions...

But then I'd like to see a different setting for each main function of the PS3. Like, for games and game Demo's I might prefer 720p, but then for Blu-Ray and downloaded movie content I'd clearly prefer 1080i. I should be able to set these as preferences. Once they fix the 1080i bug, what will happen for me is that I'll have to be constantly switching between 720p and 1080i depending on if I'm watching a movie or playing a game. So my suggestion is: Function-based video output preferences.

DaverJ
11-21-06, 11:49 AM
Function-based video output preferences.

Great point, added.

It might be nice to be able to switch output resolutions on-the-fly, like my DirecTivo. Added that one too.

Mike C
11-21-06, 11:50 AM
PS3 simotaneously feed A/V through HDMI and Audio through Optical

What are you supposed to do if you feed a 1080p projector through HDMI? What are you supposed to do about the audio?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=754502

DaverJ
11-21-06, 12:11 PM
PS3 simotaneously feed A/V through HDMI and Audio through Optical

What are you supposed to do if you feed a 1080p projector through HDMI? What are you supposed to do about the audio?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=754502

Mike... I'm not sure I understand. You can feed video via HDMI and audio using the optical cable. Are you wanting to simultaneously feed audio through both? :confused:

Mike C
11-21-06, 12:14 PM
Yes, take a look at my link for explanations.

Mike... I'm not sure I understand. You can feed video via HDMI and audio using the optical cable. Are you wanting to simultaneously feed audio through both? :confused:

Bad_Boy_
11-21-06, 12:15 PM
I always start the system with the PS button on the controller, and if a game disk is in it loads the game. Are you saying if you hold the button it won't launch the game?
No I mean after the system is started, when the XMB is about to come up right before the game loads. It's just a temporary fix until they get the option working.

Dralt
11-21-06, 01:15 PM
Ok, after having confirmed the behaviour on my system where the system is switching to 1080i automatically for Blu-Ray output, I'd like to alter the resolution output change request a bit. Obviously I'd like to see 768p in the list of available resolutions...

But then I'd like to see a different setting for each main function of the PS3. Like, for games and game Demo's I might prefer 720p, but then for Blu-Ray and downloaded movie content I'd clearly prefer 1080i. I should be able to set these as preferences. Once they fix the 1080i bug, what will happen for me is that I'll have to be constantly switching between 720p and 1080i depending on if I'm watching a movie or playing a game. So my suggestion is: Function-based video output preferences.

With regard to 768p, can you confirm your display's EDID structure reports 768p as a supported configuration?

I'm asking because my Sharp AQUOS also has the same native resolution, but it does not say so in its EDID structure.

In general, a source device will not output at a given resolution unless the EDID record sent out by the display reports it as supported.

Felgar
11-21-06, 01:23 PM
With regard to 768p, can you confirm your display's EDID structure reports 768p as a supported configuration?
The manual states 1366x768 as an acceptable and supported input format, so there is an assumption on my part that this means it's part of the EDID. I havent verified this in practice with an HTPC or anything like that though.

Edit: Oh, I should point out that the EDID is not a concern with the PS3. It will let me try 1080p even though the TV doesn't support that res and clearly wouldn't have it in the EDID.

Dralt
11-21-06, 04:22 PM
The manual states 1366x768 as an acceptable and supported input format, so there is an assumption on my part that this means it's part of the EDID. I havent verified this in practice with an HTPC or anything like that though.

Edit: Oh, I should point out that the EDID is not a concern with the PS3. It will let me try 1080p even though the TV doesn't support that res and clearly wouldn't have it in the EDID.

Wow! If PS3 ignores EDID data, you can put that on the list as well. Sending a signal a display cannot support could kill it.

Mike C
11-21-06, 04:42 PM
I have a Panny TH50PX60U 1366x768 and the PS3 is feeding it a 1080p signal and it works perfect even though in the Panny manual it states support for 480i/p, 720p, 1080i only.

Wow! If PS3 ignores EDID data, you can put that on the list as well. Sending a signal a display cannot support could kill it.

Lakuma
11-21-06, 05:00 PM
This is my first post on AVS and I would like to make a suggestion for a future upgrade for the PS3. I would like to be able to access all my media on my home network including My Music, My Video etc. I.E. Media Center. Basically what a network is for in the first place. Thanks!

DaverJ
11-21-06, 05:46 PM
Welcome to the forum Lakuma!

We got your request on the list for streaming media (music, pictures, video) from a PC or Mac.

Hughmc
11-21-06, 05:54 PM
Why not get a Windows Media Center PC and add a blu ray/ gaming drive with controller capability?

JUst being a troll. I do want one of these. I am just going to wait out the initial BS PS3 is going through. I like the format and will continue to go wth the PS.

Felgar
11-21-06, 06:44 PM
I have a Panny TH50PX60U 1366x768 and the PS3 is feeding it a 1080p signal and it works perfect even though in the Panny manual it states support for 480i/p, 720p, 1080i only.
http://www.panasonic.ca/english/audiovideo/plasma/specs_px60.asp The specs show 1080p support on HDMI. Probably just a user manual issue. :)

Dralt
11-21-06, 06:57 PM
Felgar, do you confirm PS3 ignores EDID data?

That would be a bug too.

Felgar
11-21-06, 07:43 PM
I dunno. I can confirm that my DVI input does not support 1080p and that the system will let me switch to 1080p at which point my screen goes blank until the 30 second timeout on the video settings. Who knows, maybe the TV is reporting the wrong EDID info, but I would doubt it. I have a 50phd8uk Panasonic Industrial Plasma with the TY-42TM6D DVI input.

Dralt
11-21-06, 10:40 PM
I dunno. I can confirm that my DVI input does not support 1080p and that the system will let me switch to 1080p at which point my screen goes blank until the 30 second timeout on the video settings. Who knows, maybe the TV is reporting the wrong EDID info, but I would doubt it. I have a 50phd8uk Panasonic Industrial Plasma with the TY-42TM6D DVI input.

Do you have a laptop you could connect to the set?

Then you could download the free version of this utility:

http://www.entechtaiwan.net/util/moninfo.shtm

That will tell you everything you need to know about the content of the EDID data structure of your set.

TR11
11-23-06, 10:33 AM
how about a small button on the controller to turn it off? so i dont have to hold down the ps button and turn it off.

Slacker George
11-23-06, 10:45 AM
I'd forgotten about this one:

The console needs to be powered on (not in stand-by) in order to charge a controller. An annoyance, but still...mebbe add to the wishlist where the USB ports get low-level power to allow charging in stand-by mode...

DaverJ
11-23-06, 12:58 PM
how about a small button on the controller to turn it off? so i dont have to hold down the ps button and turn it off.

Would be nice... but this list is for software system updates.

DaverJ
11-23-06, 01:01 PM
I'd forgotten about this one:

Added -- good and valid point... sorry I missed it.

neo302
11-23-06, 02:48 PM
I believe there is an issue when using a DVI cable with an HDMI male converter. Does not work with my system.

mangell
11-24-06, 12:59 AM
While trying to push files from my Treo to the PS3 over Bluetooth, it was not recognized as a device. It needs to support GEOP (Generic Object Exchange Profile) before this would be possible. It already supports A2DP for headsets. Thanks.

metrognomerical
11-24-06, 10:17 AM
Heres a few upgrades sony could easily make:

1) Better web browser functionality.
2) Make Music folders accessible from external hard drive while music is still playing from it already. Also make available for play in game. maybe even a playlist creator in the music player?
3) SUPPORT IPOD/IPOD VIDEO AS USB DEVICE!! I don't know if we need to get apple to do this or sony, but if this thing could play the video and audio as seemlessly from the ipod as from my external hd it would be amazing.
4) Allow option to set external HD as save device.

Just some thoughts so far. I was kind of shocked the ipod didn't work because both my flash card reader and my external hd were plug and play easy. who knows, but it seems like sony could get all these things available by early-mid next year no problem, hope they read this thread...

DaverJ
11-24-06, 05:05 PM
Worked in mangell and metrognomericals suggestions to the list, thanks!

Neo... what is happening with your DVI? HDMI to DVI should pass video if the cable is working correctly - I think I read someone else doing this? :confused:

fubarduck
11-24-06, 06:06 PM
If you have a feature that could be handled with a software update, please post it here and I'll add it to the master list above.

Fix the built-in lag that PS1/PS2 games suffer via HDMI out.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=753069 for more info.

Dralt
11-24-06, 10:12 PM
Fix the built-in lag that PS1/PS2 games suffer via HDMI out.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=753069 for more info.

Yes, this bad de-interlacing behavior is a defect that renders backward compatibility nearly useless.

We should add it to the list.

Slacker George
11-24-06, 10:29 PM
It's on there already. Big list. :)

kiomon
11-25-06, 12:04 AM
A small adds/ builds

Can we stream from "NAS" as well as PC or Mac. I would like to be able to stream media without some front end software on the server. A basic set-up the location of the media via TCP/IP and play it back.

Also what about Album Art for importing songs.
Support for Apple Lossless Audio Files

neo302
11-25-06, 01:49 AM
Worked in mangell and metrognomericals suggestions to the list, thanks!

Neo... what is happening with your DVI? HDMI to DVI should pass video if the cable is working correctly - I think I read someone else doing this? :confused:

Hey DaverJ

I have the Hitachi PJ-TX100. I have blue jeans cable (DVI) with a DVI > HDMI male converter. I also tried a shorter DVI cable with a Monster Adapter.

I plug it in, set the PS3 to try HDMI, set the projector to DVI via the remote, and the projector simply never shows it. They are not communicating at all. :(

Thanks

neo302
11-25-06, 06:04 PM
Hey DaverJ

I have the Hitachi PJ-TX100. I have blue jeans cable (DVI) with a DVI > HDMI male converter. I also tried a shorter DVI cable with a Monster Adapter.

I plug it in, set the PS3 to try HDMI, set the projector to DVI via the remote, and the projector simply never shows it. They are not communicating at all. :(

Thanks

I bought an RCA DVI > HDMI cable, eliminating the need for a converter. Still not working. I just don't think the PS3 wants to talk to the Pj tx100 over DVI. I have to rely on Sony for a fix. Hopefully it will happen.

jbann27
11-25-06, 08:27 PM
Maybe I am just too used to xbox live, but they really need to fix the chat. I know they have a chat room, which is ok, but they need to make it so you can have a private chat with friend and be able to do something else at the same time...as it is now when you chat that is all you can do. I would like to be able to chat with my buds while I am playing a game.

DaveFi
11-25-06, 09:21 PM
Native 720p Blu-Ray output (does it do this now? No definitive answer as of yet).

Upscaled DVDs over HDMI. Why not? Every other HDMI DVD player can do this.

Supermans
11-26-06, 02:19 AM
Fix the built-in lag that PS1/PS2 games suffer via HDMI out.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=753069 for more

info.


I haven't experienced any lag with ps2 games...

Dralt
11-26-06, 02:56 AM
You can add this one to the list...it's so bad it qualifies as a defect:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8992504&&#post8992504

I am currently testing my newly acquired PS3.

More feedback to come.

toneedo
11-26-06, 06:49 PM
Please ADD these features for WEB BROWSER


* Support for latest versions of Flash Player (Alot of websites with flash wont work with current Flash Player)
* WMV support to stream video clips
* Quicktime support to stream video clips
* Latest version of JAVA
* Allow HDD to be able to store cache and downloaded content from external websites. (Currently the ps3 force u to have an external media source to save a WMV file..it does not store it in the HDD.)
* Fix the WEB browser from crashing
* Realign the web browser zoom function (Full screen seems to be cropped at the edges)

Jules343
11-26-06, 10:20 PM
Wow great thread. Any Sony reps or employees reading this?
-support for AVI files containing Xvid and AC3 sound with external Unicode SRT subtitles
-accelerated video support for the Linux/Other OS environment
I wouldn't count on either of those, but the rest seems very reasonable.

Dralt
11-27-06, 02:53 PM
My feedback after a few hours...

Things that need to be fixed ASAP:

- Video/audio set-up:
Most users will connect their system to their HDTV set via HDMI for video only.
They will connect their system to their A/V receiver via digital optical for audio.

When I tried such a set-up, I noticed the system appears to send Dolby Digital to my HDTV set over HDMI.

Expected behavior: When digital optical audio output is selected, no audio output should occur over HDMI.

- Wireless network connectivity:

With firmware 1.10, this works erratically or not at all depending on the kind of Access Point you use.
High latency and high packet loss are frequent.

- SIXAXIS:

Very infrequently (2-3 times in a 2-hour session playing Resistance), the SIXAXIS controller stops responding for 2-4 seconds.
After 2-4 seconds, the controller becomes responsive again.

- Gaming/Movie Playback:

As reported by many on AVS, when you go from movie playback to playing a game, audio output does not work properly.
For instance, you get PCM output in the XMB, but no Dolby Digital in Resistance.
You need to put the system in stand-by mode and turn it back on to get sound in Resistance.

- Text input via on-screen keyboard:

For reasons unknown, text input can cause the system to hang permanently.
When this happens, you have to flip the power switch to reboot the system.

freestyle
11-28-06, 02:07 PM
UPDATE - 1.11 released last night (no download or on the U.S. Network Update page (http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates) yet)

From what can be observed, changes include:
New Account Management Icon under friends list (same functionality as pressing triangle on your own name)
Web browser seems to have gotten a speed increase.
Have not experienced the "system hang/freeze-up on text input" issue
A number of people are stating that the HDMI sound issue has been resolved



Enhancements:
-boot to dashboard option

FYI, you can hold left on your d-pad (or any direction, I'm assuming) during booting and the system will not boot directly into a game and instead keep you at the XMB.

DaverJ
11-28-06, 02:27 PM
Thanks for the heads up Freestyle! I'll update the list tonight.

If anyone sees that something was addressed in any way, please assist by posting your findings here -- thanks!

Dralt
11-28-06, 04:34 PM
Thanks for the heads up Freestyle! I'll update the list tonight.

If anyone sees that something was addressed in any way, please assist by posting your findings here -- thanks!

I don't think you should change the list until problems are positively marked fixed in a change log published by Sony.

DaverJ
11-28-06, 04:49 PM
I don't think you should change the list until problems are positively marked fixed in a change log published by Sony.

Noted... where do I find the change log?

freestyle
11-28-06, 05:23 PM
I agree... The list above of 4 issues are ones that have been observed by people... But nothing official...

The official network update info will be here: http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates


Other's have found 1.11 info for ASIA, here: http://asia.playstation.com/hk/ps3/eng/ps3_softupdate.htm

Jules343
11-28-06, 05:38 PM
I haven't seen a changelog yet for this update, but hopefully Sony will release one.

Dralt
11-28-06, 08:05 PM
Noted... where do I find the change log?

That's the trick...SCEA has not translated the Japanese change log yet.

I take that back, they just did:


New for 1.11: [Account Management] has been added.
New for 1.11: Some PLAYSTATIONŽNetwork features have been revised.


Quite funny, if you ask me. With that, we know everything...or nothing.

Jules343
11-28-06, 08:25 PM
From the Sony update page: http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates
The PLAYSTATIONŽ3 system software version 1.11 update includes the following:
General
You can now use PLAYSTATIONŽNetwork services.
You can now use the single tap text entry method on the on-screen keyboard for English and other European languages.
Settings
[Audio CD Output Frequency] has been added as a feature under [Music Settings].
[Enable ATRAC] has been added as a feature under [System Settings].
[Cross Color Reduction Filter] has been added as a feature under [Display Settings].
[After 5 Minutes] has been added as an option to [Screensaver] under [Display Settings].
Video
You can now select [Full Screen] under [Screen Mode] when playing video files saved on the hard disk or storage media.*
*An appropriate USB adaptor (not included) is required to use storage media with some models.
Network
You can now download and save music and video files on the hard disk under [Internet Browser].
You can now download the following types of content under [PLAYSTATIONŽStore].
− PLAYSTATIONŽ3 format software
− PLAYSTATIONŽNetwork titles*
* The term "PLAYSTATIONŽNetwork titles" refers to PlayStation format games (PS one) downloaded from PLAYSTATIONŽStore and PSP format games distributed electronically.
Simplified and traditional Chinese characters can now be displayed under [Internet Browser].
[Online Instruction Manuals] has been added as a feature.
Friends
New for 1.11: [Account Management] has been added.
Other
The method of calculating hard disk capacity has been changed.
* Free space on the hard disk is calculated as 1 GB (1024 x 1024 x 1024) = approx. 1,073,740,000 bytes. As a result, the free space value displayed may be less than the value that is mentioned under specifications in the product documentation. You can check hard disk free space under [Settings] > [System Settings] > [System Information].
Playability status with the PS3™ system has changed for some PlayStationŽ and PlayStationŽ2 format titles. To check on the latest status, visit the search site for compatible titles.
New for 1.11: Some PLAYSTATIONŽNetwork features have been revised.
Dralt,
Click on the bold items and go to a page that provides more detail. Below is a direct link to that page.
Explains some of the new features in little bit greater detail:
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Network/Updates/PS3_110_update.html#friends

Dralt
11-28-06, 09:00 PM
From the Sony update page: http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates

Dralt,
Click on the bold items and go to a page that provides more detail. Below is a direct link to that page.
Explains some of the new features in little bit greater detail:
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Network/Updates/PS3_110_update.html#friends


Thanks, I noticed that later. Yet, the new information is on a page named: "PS3_110_update.html"

I wonder if these new things are leftovers that were supposed to be part of 1.10, but did not make it.

DaverJ
11-28-06, 11:37 PM
...so... I don't think anything on our list has been taken care of with the 1.10 to 1.11 upgrade.

Can anyone find any improvements we were hoping for? :confused:

Jules343
11-28-06, 11:57 PM
...so... I don't think anything on our list has been taken care of with the 1.10 to 1.11 upgrade.

Can anyone find any improvements we were hoping for? :confused:
I'm sure 1.11 was in the works before the thread was started.

How exactly are you communicating with Sony on this list of improvements? It would be nice to get a rep in here as a member to look it over and act as a go between.

I read on one forum where somebody said HDMI/optical issue was fixed, but don't know for sure.

Also, for users of RedKawa might find this part interesting:
"You can now download and save music and video files on the hard disk under [Internet Browser]. "
Before when transferring files to the PS3 you had to use some type of external storage.
RedKawa File Sever:
http://www.redkawa.com/fileserver/

DaverJ
11-29-06, 08:19 AM
I'm sure 1.11 was in the works before the thread was started.

How exactly are you communicating with Sony on this list of improvements? It would be nice to get a rep in here as a member to look it over and act as a go between.


We hoped to get a rep from Sony of America to look over the list. However, word has it all software decisions like this come from the home office in Japan.

So my goal is to just put our wants and needs out there in hopes that this list finds the right sympathetic eyes who might be able to make something happen.

...a long shot, I know, but what the heck. :o

Jules343
11-29-06, 11:19 AM
We hoped to get a rep from Sony of America to look over the list. However, word has it all software decisions like this come from the home office in Japan.

So my goal is to just put our wants and needs out there in hopes that this list finds the right sympathetic eyes who might be able to make something happen.

...a long shot, I know, but what the heck. :o
There must be a Japanese speaker on AVS :)

metrognomerical
11-29-06, 11:56 AM
Just FYI...The web browser definately has some added/changed functionality. Although my system froze on me when i tried to close a window. The web browser will probably be the most constantly tinkered with app on this machine...No other new problems.

DaverJ
11-29-06, 08:26 PM
I can report that I loaded a BD movie, then exited and started a game and the audio is fine -- no need to restart the system. I call this bug fixed, so there's a new column at the end of the list for fixed items.

If anyone still has trouble with this on the new version, please report the details.

Also, if anyone discovers any other items on the list are fixed, please also report the details.

headcase151
11-29-06, 10:47 PM
I got an issue, that needs to be addressed. I purchased the PS1/PS2 memory card reader. Transfered my game saves, to the hard drive. Then later, I started a PS2 game. It would not reconize my transfered game saves. I played a level, tried to save. I got a screen no memory card in slot one. Two more games with transfered game saves, no luck. Same thing with Castlevania SOTN. Is there something I`m missing. 15 dollars for the memory card adapter, and you can`t use the saves. If there is something i`m doing wrong, let me know. Thanks

Dralt
11-29-06, 11:14 PM
I updated to 1.11.

Surprise, surprise...

Dolby Digital is no longer output over HDMI. So, my HDTV set no longer complains about receiving an unsupported audio signal. My A/V receiver still receives Dolby Digital via the digital optical output, as it should.

So, it would seem they fixed that.

It's good news really.

Now, it would be nice if they actually produced change logs that truly list what defects have been fixed.

Toe
11-29-06, 11:24 PM
I know this has been mentioned, but 1080p24 support would be AWESOME! :)

DaverJ
11-29-06, 11:28 PM
I got an issue, that needs to be addressed. I purchased the PS1/PS2 memory card reader. Transfered my game saves, to the hard drive. Then later, I started a PS2 game. It would not reconize my transfered game saves. I played a level, tried to save. I got a screen no memory card in slot one. Two more games with transfered game saves, no luck. Same thing with Castlevania SOTN. Is there something I`m missing. 15 dollars for the memory card adapter, and you can`t use the saves. If there is something i`m doing wrong, let me know. Thanks

Headcase...

I don't have the reader but would like to see if we could solve this.

To play PS1/2 games you need to create "vitural memory cards" on the PS3. I'm wondering once you do that, can you copy your save files into these virtual memory cards?

isaidme
11-30-06, 12:08 AM
Most likely already covered but new theme settings for main menu.
The ability to install updates via downloading to pc desktop and burn to data disk, for those without high speed internet access or flash cards,etc.
Already listed but the DVD upconversion is a must have!

Jules343
11-30-06, 12:42 AM
The ability to install updates via downloading to pc desktop and burn to data disk, for those without high speed internet access or flash cards,etc.
http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates
click on download now, it is 98.2MBs.

headcase151
11-30-06, 06:30 AM
Daver, I set up a virtual memory card for each of my old cards. I can click on the card on the menu screen. Scroll down and find my game save. When I start the game, go to it`s menu I get no memory card in slot. On ps1 games it shows saves, but it won`t load it. I`m stumped.

DaverJ
11-30-06, 08:27 AM
I'm stumped too Headcase. The only think I can offer is they sometimes hide features in the triangle and PS buttons via controller, so you might want to click on those over the memory card reader or the virtual memory cards to see if there's any copy options.

Someone else successfully copy save files from PS1/2 to their PS3?

metrognomerical
11-30-06, 11:55 AM
I have. I copied my memory card to the HD, and played San Andreas. Also the PS2 games didn't look crappy like some people were saying. hadn't tried any older games yet. I still have tekken tag (probably the greatest launch game ever in my opinion.)

shud
11-30-06, 04:08 PM
Make it so that you can see messages your buddies send you while you are in game. Even just a note that you have a message.

Also make it possible to make an in-game buddy a PSN buddy. Your PSN name is the same for every online game, right? Why not do this?

DaverJ
11-30-06, 04:27 PM
Make it so that you can see messages your buddies send you while you are in game. Even just a note that you have a message.

Also make it possible to make an in-game buddy a PSN buddy. Your PSN name is the same for every online game, right? Why not do this?

Excellent suggestion... added to list.

isaidme
11-30-06, 05:28 PM
Jules, I put the update in PS3 - UPDATE just as it says to. No Go im affraid.

Ragnarok
11-30-06, 05:31 PM
Make it so you can charge your controllers while the system is in standby.

Jules343
11-30-06, 08:29 PM
I know this has been mentioned, but 1080p24 support would be AWESOME! :)
It is coming in a later update as well as DVD upscaling
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=759864
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=759950

Ub3r-L33ch
12-01-06, 06:06 AM
I agree with most of the things mentioned here, I didnt read through everything so this may have been mentioned already but I hope they can get the DFP to work with PS2 games and also hopefully still allow the DFP to work with PS3 games as well.

DaverJ
12-01-06, 08:08 AM
I agree with most of the things mentioned here, I didnt read through everything so this may have been mentioned already but I hope they can get the DFP to work with PS2 games and also hopefully still allow the DFP to work with PS3 games as well.

DFP? :confused: Digital Flat Panel?

brad31
12-01-06, 10:09 AM
Someone could correct me if this is supported (just got the unit last night). I noticed when selecting sound for the Optical cable Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1 were available options (which I checked).

There was no box to check DTS 6.1ES (or other 6 and 7 channel set-ups). I know that DolbyTrueHd and DTSHD are onlly delivered via HDMI -- but why is the optical cable limited to only supporting 5.1 channel formats?

I would like to add: Support 6.1 and 7.1 channel formats through the Optical cable such as DTS 6.1ES and Dolby Digital EX.

Some of the more knowledgable people on the forum may be able to express this request more accurately (or correct me if this is already supported).

TheMoose
12-01-06, 12:18 PM
DFP? :confused: Digital Flat Panel?
DFP= Dual Force Pro, it's a force feedback steering wheel that makes my GT4 a lot better.

Mattdoc
12-01-06, 09:27 PM
Well since I have a large overscan issues, perhaps a future update can have, under video settings, a way to adjust the horizontal and vertical edges to fix for overscan, without making me recalibrate my television set. Since I have an av switcher, I would not want to have to adjust my tv's overscan for the PS3, only to have underscan on my Cable TV.

dc10forlife
12-02-06, 09:17 AM
Hey Rob...

Thanks for the input. The answer to your P.S. is your #1. ;) I'll add your #2, but I'm confused about #3... can you restate it as simply as possible? .ts files are HD movies, correct? And you are saying the PS3 doesn't play .ts files?


This question was never answered. The PS3 requires that the .ts (transport stream) be renamed .mpg in order for it to play. However, if the audio in the transport stream is ac3, only the video will play. So we need support for the .ts extension and support for ac3 in mpeg2-ts.

DaverJ
12-02-06, 02:39 PM
DFP= Dual Force Pro, it's a force feedback steering wheel that makes my GT4 a lot better.
Added.

... we need support for the .ts extension and support for ac3 in mpeg2-ts.
Added.

LazyHero
12-02-06, 04:18 PM
DaverJ, please please add the Dolby Digital problem with Blu-ray movies that I've seen at least 4 users on this forum mention.

This is NOT the digital sound drop out problem when going back to games after watching a movie.

This is the problem with playing a 640k Dolby Digital stream through the optical cable. The PS3 is not delivering the signal properly. It's happening on receivers of all quality levels, which are getting streams of this quality just fine from HD-DVD players, but not the PS3. There is a closed thread from 11/18 entitled "PS3 Dolby Digital Problem?" where a few users were talking about this, but it got wrapped up and confused with the other sound problem which has now been fixed.

Again, only DTS soundtracks on BD movies are playing correctly through the optical cable (which means problems for the vast majority of BD movies which have DD and PCM) and it's been mentioned by at least 4 members of this forum, though not on this particular thread.

Thanks for compiling this list.

--Jason

DaverJ
12-02-06, 08:38 PM
DaverJ, please please add the Dolby Digital problem with Blu-ray movies that I've seen at least 4 users on this forum mention.

Added, although I have watched 3 BD movies and haven't experienced this yet. Maybe it's a unique combination of the PS3 with certain A/V receivers. :confused: Mine is a Denon 3803.

Hughmc
12-03-06, 07:04 AM
I have had my PS3 for two days. It is working flawlessly. Never have lost controller connectivity and wi-fi is perfect.

I am curious as to why the following are issues? I am just trying to understand in case there is something I am missing.

system start-up with the controller should require longer button hold down

I have to hold it down two seconds and it has never been an issue for me. I am not saying it might not be for some, just curious as to what some are experiencing?



-ability to eject disc via controller

Since it is a single disc and unless you are going to have your dog or a girlfriend :) take it out so you don't have to get up, why is this an issue? If you eject it you are getting up and taking it out anyway. Isn't the button on the console enough? Or are some worried if the button on the console fails?


One huge one for me that has been mentioned is the ability to download in the background while doing something else, which is really multi-tasking. Is the hardware not able to do this or is it just a firmware issue? I would think the hardware can do both like my pc.

LazyHero
12-03-06, 04:44 PM
Added, although I have watched 3 BD movies and haven't experienced this yet. Maybe it's a unique combination of the PS3 with certain A/V receivers. :confused: Mine is a Denon 3803.

UPDATE: Thanks. I just wanted to pass along this update.... I have unfortunately determined that it is my receiver, and based on another thread here, I know how to describe the problem.

Basically, certain receivers aren't going to be able to handle the Dolby Digital 640k signal through optical. They just can't decode it, because they were built for the 300-400k signals from DVD. My receiver is the Sony STR-DE985, only a few years old, which provides 100w per channel and decodes Dolby Digital EX, and DTS, but can't handle the signal it's getting from BD movies. I was able to try it on a significantly older Yamaha receiver last night (the RX-V620) which can only handle basic 5.1 Dolby and DTS, yet that receiver had no trouble with the signal at all.

One rep at Sony wanted me to call back with any model #'s that I discovered had problems with the PS3, but the other rep I talked to today didn't understand and didn't seem to care that a very popular, although not brand new Sony receiver which should have no trouble with this signal, wasn't accepting it. He wanted me to send in my PS3, even though it clearly has no other issues, and this issue doesn't exist with other receivers (with my same audio cable too).

So, could you please amend this problem on the official list to confirm that a 640k audio signal through optical is too much for some current receivers to handle? Perhaps the signal should be compressed more through optical? Other people are definitely going to have this issue as the PS3 is more widely adopted, and I can't believe that the reps are just going to tell them to send it in for a replacement.

Me ... I'm off to buy a new receiver, or I might wait for the HDMI 1.3 ones.

EatingPie
12-04-06, 09:44 AM
It's an enhancement request and you could label it as "Support for external HDD".
I request this is reworded.

"Support for multiple formats on external HDD, including EXT3, HFS+ and NTFS which allow file sizes larger than 4GB."

This should also be a Defect Correction, not a feature request... IMHO anyway. :)

So far the only format I've been able to use is Fat32. Works fine once you put the videos in the VIDOES directory, but a 4GB limit kills any abilitiy to use external HDD for HDTV caps.

-Pie

EatingPie
12-04-06, 09:52 AM
A few more defects.

(1) Output of Dolby Digital 5.1 when playing a stored MPEG2 PS with a valid AC3 track.

(2) Fix playback of large stored MPEG2 PS files. Currently playback halts at around 15 minutes.

With issue #1, the PS3 only outputs "Pro Logic" through optical, even when the video in quetion only has an AC3 track.

I will be posting a separate thread on issue #2 since I'm not sure about causative factors. It's still rooted in the PS3, though, as both test files I used played fine with VLC.

-Pie

DaverJ
12-04-06, 09:58 AM
system start-up with the controller should require longer button hold down

I have to hold it down two seconds and it has never been an issue for me. I am not saying it might not be for some, just curious as to what some are experiencing?


I just moved the controller the other day and a passing brush on the PS button turned the system on. To call up the menus requires the 2 second push - but it seems to turn the system on, a quick push on the PS button is all that is needed. We would like the ability to change that to a 2 second push.



-ability to eject disc via controller

Since it is a single disc and unless you are going to have your dog or a girlfriend :) take it out so you don't have to get up, why is this an issue? If you eject it you are getting up and taking it out anyway. Isn't the button on the console enough?
This request often gets scoffs, as did when I posted that the HD-DVD drive on the 360 can't be ejected via remote (even though that drive comes with a remote with an eject button that doesn't eject the drive :rolleyes: ... but I digress). This minor inconvenience doesn't effect most people, but some of us have these units on a low rack or in a slightly inconvenient place. I like to have the disk ejecting so the try is open, or in the case of the PS3 the disk is sticking out, by the time I get to the console so I'm not waiting bending over or crouched down for the disk to come out. It's a very minor thing, but the fact that every DVD player and even back to VHS has the ability to eject via remote, it's something I'm used to and would rather not loose.

DaverJ
12-04-06, 11:12 AM
I request this is reworded.

"Support for multiple formats on external HDD, including EXT3, HFS+ and NTFS which allow file sizes larger than 4GB."

This should also be a Defect Correction, not a feature request... IMHO anyway. :)


Pie (uuummmm "pie")... updated, but I feel this is still a requested feature.

DaverJ
12-04-06, 11:27 AM
A few more defects.

(1) Output of Dolby Digital 5.1 when playing a stored MPEG2 PS with a valid AC3 track.

(2) Fix playback of large stored MPEG2 PS files. Currently playback halts at around 15 minutes.

With issue #1, the PS3 only outputs "Pro Logic" through optical, even when the video in quetion only has an AC3 track.


Pie, need to check:
1) Do all AC3 register 5.1 channels?
2) What are PS files? Is this a format like .ts files?

coneyparleg
12-04-06, 01:43 PM
Not sure if mentioned -

You knowhow when you turn on the PS3 it defaults to one of your downloaded game/demos icons and the music for some of those are on blast (ie motorstorm and cash guns chaos), it'd be nice to either set where the start up defaults to, or control the volume of the game icons while in XMB.

Hughmc
12-04-06, 02:54 PM
I just moved the controller the other day and a passing brush on the PS button turned the system on. To call up the menus requires the 2 second push - but it seems to turn the system on, a quick push on the PS button is all that is needed. We would like the ability to change that to a 2 second push.


This request often gets scoffs, as did when I posted that the HD-DVD drive on the 360 can't be ejected via remote (even though that drive comes with a remote with an eject button that doesn't eject the drive :rolleyes: ... but I digress). This minor inconvenience doesn't effect most people, but some of us have these units on a low rack or in a slightly inconvenient place. I like to have the disk ejecting so the try is open, or in the case of the PS3 the disk is sticking out, by the time I get to the console so I'm not waiting bending over or crouched down for the disk to come out. It's a very minor thing, but the fact that every DVD player and even back to VHS has the ability to eject via remote, it's something I'm used to and would rather not loose.

Dont misunderstand me I am not nit picking, but if you picked the controller up or just moved it most likely one would do so to play the game, unless you are cleaning or a million other legitimate reasons to move it. I pick it up by the left or right knobbies that stick out and when holding it never contact the button as the joystick sought of prevents me from doing that. Just my take. I like the feature.



I had a Yamaha cd player, DVD player, and a JCV vhs that didn't have eject.

Hughmc
12-04-06, 10:14 PM
Updated thought on the eject button. Where would you put it? If you changed software so you could change one of the control buttons to be the eject button, then hitting it would eject a disc just as easily as one accidently touching or brushing the power on/off button on the controller. Now you go out for several hours to come home and find your dog chewed your 60.00 game or BD movie. If that was the case you would then have to have the gaming software set so it doesn't eject while playing a game, cd, dvd or whatever. If you had to go to a submenu to eject using the controller, by the time you did it you could get up probably several times and eject manually. Unless I am not thinking through this or missing something, I now think an eject button would not only be unnecessary, but it would be a bad idea. My guess would be the designers of the controller already thought through this and that is why it isn't available, not that it couldn't be. They thought about all the DVD/BD controls when playing movies when designing, so I am sure they didn't miss thinking through the eject button.

EatingPie
12-04-06, 10:23 PM
Pie, need to check:
1) Do all AC3 register 5.1 channels?
2) What are PS files? Is this a format like .ts files?
Hi Daver.

If I understand question 1, I can say that BDs register DD 5.1 on my amp. However, with a movie that I transferred to disk, it only shows as Pro Logic, which is 2.0. This happens even though both of my test movies only contain a DD 5.1 AC3 track (ie no 2.0 track, so the PS3 is "downsampling").

For Question 2, PS stands for Program Stream. This is the MPEG2 format used for stuff stored on disks. DVDs, for example, are MPEG2 Program Stream (PS). Transport Stream (TS) is a "packetized" version of MPEG2 used for broadcast. So anything you record from Cable over OTA will be MPEG2 TS.

According to Sony press, the PS3 is supposed to support HDTV MPEG2 PS with AC3 audio, while it only supports MPEG TS with stereo audio. As noted in the list, if you try to play MPEG2 TS with an AC3 track, you get no sound. If you play an MPEG2 PS with an AC3 track, you DO get sound, but only in stereo (pro logic), and not the full-blown 5.1 surround.

-Pie

Jules343
12-04-06, 10:44 PM
Hi Daver.

If I understand question 1, I can say that BDs register DD 5.1 on my amp. However, with a movie that I transferred to disk, it only shows as Pro Logic, which is 2.0. This happens even though both of my test movies only contain a DD 5.1 AC3 track (ie no 2.0 track, so the PS3 is "downsampling").

For Question 2, PS stands for Program Stream. This is the MPEG2 format used for stuff stored on disks. DVDs, for example, are MPEG2 Program Stream (PS). Transport Stream (TS) is a "packetized" version of MPEG2 used for broadcast. So anything you record from Cable over OTA will be MPEG2 TS.

According to Sony press, the PS3 is supposed to support HDTV MPEG2 PS with AC3 audio, while it only supports MPEG TS with stereo audio. As noted in the list, if you try to play MPEG2 TS with an AC3 track, you get no sound. If you play an MPEG2 PS with an AC3 track, you DO get sound, but only in stereo (pro logic), and not the full-blown 5.1 surround.

-Pie
Is it Pro-Logic I or II? Not that it matters as it should be outputting 5.1 discrete channels, but pro-logic is multichannel audio. From what you are saying the PS3 sees AC3 as 2 channel audio and is then creating matrixed channels from it.
Pro-Logic:
The foundation of the multichannel home theater experience. This technology decodes source audio encoded in two-channel DolbyŽ Surround (including videocassettes, DVDs and TV broadcasts) for four-channel (Left/Center/Right/Surround) playback.
Pro-Logic II:
Sophisticated, matrix decoding technology that expands any two-channel source audio, such as CDs and stereo-encoded videocassettes, video games and TV broadcasts, to a five-channel full bandwidth (range) playback (Left/Center/Right/Left surround/Right surround), resulting in a surround experience. Found in: Stereo broadcast programming in analog, digital cable, and direct broadcast satellite (DirecTV/Dish); game consoles (Nintendo/Sony); home audio-video receivers; car receivers; decoders; PCs and laptops.

DaverJ
12-04-06, 11:40 PM
Updated thought on the eject button. Where would you put it?

If it were up to me, I would do it as an option in the PS button menu -- like hitting triangle. So when I want to eject a disk (game, DVD, whatever), I would hit PS (as if I was shutting down) and hit triangle to eject. If I don't remove the disk in 30 seconds it can pull it back in but not auto-start like in a car stereo. This option would probably be best only in XMB -- not while a movie is playing or a game is running.

It's not that big of deal, just a small thing I would like because of how I'm used to operating my HT.

EatingPie
12-05-06, 12:19 PM
Is it Pro-Logic I or II? Not that it matters as it should be outputting 5.1 discrete channels, but pro-logic is multichannel audio. From what you are saying the PS3 sees AC3 as 2 channel audio and is then creating matrixed channels from it.
My amp only supports DPL I, so I don't know about DPL II.

But yes, you are essentially correct. It takes the discrete 5.1 and creates a matrixed surround. This is, as I said, a "downconversion" because you completely lose the discrete aspect, and the LFE channel.

Far more important is the other issue I brought up. I don't think anybody has been able to play a full-length HDTV movie from the PS3's hard drive. If it's supposed to be an HDTV media hub, playing HDTV movies is an imperative!

-Pie

AV_Integrated
12-05-06, 12:34 PM
I would like to see as a Setup Option for Blu-ray Movies to autoplay when the system is on.

While it is easy enough for me to navigate the XMB, I want this to be more family friendly overall and having it just 'start' movies would be a big thing for my wife and family. Yes, I know it does this already when off, so why not when on? At least give people that option.

w1ngman
12-06-06, 09:20 AM
Need to update post #1 slightly now that version 1.3 is available.

DaverJ
12-06-06, 10:34 AM
Need to update post #1 slightly now that version 1.3 is available.

Ack! :eek: I'm way behind, sorry -- I missed this update.

Can anyone report any fixes or updates with this new version? I'll update the OP tonight.

EatingPie
12-06-06, 03:05 PM
Daverj.

Sounded like you were going to add one of my suggestions, but I don't see it on the list. Here's slight different wording.

- Playback from HDD of full length MPEG2 PS movies halts abruptly at around 15 minutes.

Thanks.

-Pie

Tyrlq
12-06-06, 04:47 PM
It would be nice if the PS3 could display what resolution is being used for those of us that have a whacked out TV that won't tell us. Confirmed with Sony that my TV doesn't have the ability to report HD resolution being displayed. With not knowing what these continuted updates are doing, it would be nice for peeps like me to know if anything changes.

Not a change I expect, just thought I would throw it up there.

DaverJ
12-06-06, 05:19 PM
Daverj.

Sounded like you were going to add one of my suggestions, but I don't see it on the list. Here's slight different wording.

- Playback from HDD of full length MPEG2 PS movies halts abruptly at around 15 minutes.


Thanks for the reminder Pie! Added - sorry I missed it before.

EatingPie
12-06-06, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the reminder Pie! Added - sorry I missed it before.
No problem, thanks to you for running the list. It's a good idea.

-Pie

Jules343
12-06-06, 11:23 PM
I heard 1.3 works with the Logitech steering wheel:
http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/playstation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=233&p_created=1165436505&p_sid=Fg19Ntoi&p_accessibility=0&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ 9MyZwX3Byb2RzPTQmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0xLjQmcF9jdj0mcF9wYWdlPTE mcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1VU0I*&p_li=&p_topview=1
Some USB devices that are compatible with PlayStation 2 format software do not operate correctly when used with the PS3 system. For details, contact the manufacturer of the USB device.

* Check the software package to confirm compatibility of the PlayStation 2 format software title with USB peripherals.

With system software version 1.30 for the PLASYSTATIONŽ3, the following USB devices are now supported for use with PlayStation 2 format software. Note that the vibration function, force feedback function, and calibration function of these devices are not supported.

Logitech Driving Force USB Steering Wheel
Logitech Driving Force Pro USB Steering Wheel
Logitech Driving Force EX USB Steering Wheel
HORI Flightstick2 USB Flight Stick
Logitech Flight Force USB Flight Stick

http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates
http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates/PS3_130_update.html#BD/DVD
The PLAYSTATIONŽ3 system software version 1.30 update includes the following:
Settings
You can now register the BD remote control in [Register BluetoothŽ Device] under [Accessory Settings].
[BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI)] has been added as an option under [BD/DVD Settings].
[Backup Utility] has been added as a feature under [System Settings].
You can now select the hard disk format method in [Format Utility] and [Restore PS3™ System] under [System Settings].
The method of selecting output resolution has been changed in [Video Output Settings] under [Display Settings].

Other
The compatibility of USB devices with PlayStationŽ2 format software titles has changed. For details on USB devices that can be used with system software version 1.30, select here.
BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI)
[BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI)] has been added as a feature under [BD/DVD Settings].
You can select the video output format to use when outputting video content from a Blu-ray Disc using an HDMI cable. Adjust the settings as necessary for the TV in use.

Automatic Set to select the video output format automatically to match the TV when connected using an HDMI cable.
RGB Set to output in RGB.
Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Set to output in Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr.

Backup Utility
[Backup Utility] has been added as a feature under [System Settings].
You can back up data on the PS3™ system's hard disk to storage media. You can also restore data that has been backed up.
Back Up Back up data on the hard disk to storage media.
Restore Restore data that has been backed up on storage media to the hard disk.

Data can be backed up on Memory Stick™, SD Memory Card, CompactFlashŽ, or USB flash drives.
Disc media such as CD-R cannot be used.
Copyright-protected video files may not be able to be backed up or restored in some cases.
If you restore the PS3™ system after backing up, some data may not be restored correctly.

Hard disk format method
You can now select the hard disk format method in [Format Utility] and [Restore PS3™ System] under [System Settings].
You can select the format method when formatting the hard disk.

Full Format Erase all data on the hard disk completely.
Quick Format Erase data on the hard disk with the least possible processing.

You can shorten the formatting time by selecting [Quick Format]. Note that in this case it may be possible to restore some deleted data if a specialized tool is used. Select [Full Format] when formatting a hard disk that contains important or sensitive data.
Output resolution selection method
The method of selecting an output resolution has been changed in [Video Output Settings] under [Display Settings].

Select all resolutions that are supported by the TV in use. The video will automatically be output at the maximum resolution suitable for the content being played.

You can use automatic setup when the TV is connected using an HDMI cable. Note that in this case, the screen shown above will not be displayed.
The highest resolution possible for the content within the range of resolutions selected under [Video Output Settings] is automatically selected for video output from the PS3™ system.*
* For system software version 1.30 and later, the video resolution is selected in order of priority as follows:
1080p > 1080i > 720p > 480p > Standard (NTSC).
Output image quality varies depending on the TV in use and the content being played.

MrSniffer
12-07-06, 12:36 AM
Sony needs to offer an IR=>USB adapter which it supports, and publish the IR codes to control all the BD functionality, including discrete power on/power off codes.

Jules343
12-07-06, 02:04 AM
Email them with that.

DaverJ
12-07-06, 08:27 AM
Jules... thanks for the update list!

A couple items have moved to the fixed/supported list, mainly larger fonts for the browser.

Anyone notice anything else? Can anyone still report the 5-second controller loosing synch glitch is still happening in version 1.30? I haven't seen this in a while... but I haven't been playing as much since I beat Resistance. :o

DaverJ
12-07-06, 08:29 AM
I would like to see as a Setup Option for Blu-ray Movies to autoplay when the system is on.

Good idea... added.

meancode
12-07-06, 08:31 AM
quit option in all the "arcade" games.

"eject" option from the Triangle button menu on discs

"eject" option from PS Button menu for BD/DVD movies/games

fix glitch in games (at least Blast Factor) that takes you to a XMB menu if you are kicked off the network. It does not pause the game, so you die. every time. Retail games do not do this when you are kicked off the network.

change "home" location of XMB startup. if you only have Cash Money Chaos, for example, the PS3 starts up and plays that loud obnoxious song. every time. I suggest it be changed from "Game" to "Friends" on the XMB for startup.

already listed, auto-start option in System, just like on PSP.

Get rid of needless XMB menues when games load. Genji has a XMB menu that tells me about the autosave feature. It forces you to hit Circle for the bleeping game to even load. This is obviously a system hook, and developers can do this in software. Untold Legends tells me this in software, and the message goes away if I don't hit X.

Automatic Title Update process on games could be handled smoother. As it stands, the system downloads and installs the game update. You are then told to go back to the XMB and launch the game again. Surely this could be scripted.

All games that are programmed to optionally install cache data to the hard drive should promt you to do so the first time you load the game. Gundam, and Ridge 7 did not. Surely these types of things could be added to the technical requirements for PS3 certification of games.

A seemingly obvious one, they need to explain in detail what the firmware upgrade does in the "About" screen we click through when we install the firmware update. And I don't want a partial list, I want details.

PlayStation Store needs control refinements. Map Prev and Next (buttons on the UI already) to L1 and R1 buttons.

Skip/ignore plugin/Flash warning in web browser.

RSS Channels. PSP has it, why not the PS3?

already listed. theme settings.

DaverJ
12-07-06, 08:44 AM
Welcome to the forum Meancode. Excellent suggestions... I added the ones that weren't on list yet.

meancode
12-07-06, 10:03 AM
Thanks DaveJ. Always read this forum, never joined until now.

change the cap for only 50 friends in friends list! how absurd is that?

Slacker George
12-07-06, 10:16 AM
"eject" option from the Triangle button menu on discs

"eject" option from PS Button menu for BD/DVD movies/games

While it certainly won't hurt to give people more options, I can't see the value in this. Why would you want to eject a disc remotely?

meancode
12-07-06, 10:47 AM
While it certainly won't hurt to give people more options, I can't see the value in this. Why would you want to eject a disc remotely?

Do you want The Jerk answer? Here it is: Because I can on the 360.

Do you want The Lazy Man answer? Because by the time I get off the couch and over to my entertainment stad it would be ready for me to take out of the PS3.

I doubt it would take much time to implement, this is a function of the drive, and it just seems like a logical thing to have programmed into the GUI.

meancode
12-07-06, 01:10 PM
OK Here are some things that need fixed in the PlayStation Store:

Item listing page should tell me how man MB/GB the file is before I download it. This is an inexcuasable oversight. This could *easily* be added to the Description field without modifying the database or UI. But it would look better, be easier to find if it was displayed under the item name.

There should be a way to jump strait to the adding funds to wallet page in Account Settings.

If you have downloaded something already (movie, game) it should let you know, and not download it again without warning (it allows this). Not only that, but it will download the same item multiple times (at least with movies).

Adding a "Whats New" and "Top Downloads" buttons on the main page would be nice. Whats New would be really helpful, as now you have to go to a Title Listing or Item Listing page to see this info. One click is always better than two.

Hughmc
12-07-06, 01:44 PM
Do you want The Jerk answer? Here it is: Because I can on the 360.

Do you want The Lazy Man answer? Because by the time I get off the couch and over to my entertainment stad it would be ready for me to take out of the PS3.

I doubt it would take much time to implement, this is a function of the drive, and it just seems like a logical thing to have programmed into the GUI.


THis has already been addressed and here is why I think it is not only unnecessary but a bad idea:

-ability to eject disc via controller

Since it is a single disc and unless you are going to have your dog or a girlfriend take it out so you don't have to get up, why is this an issue? If you eject it you are getting up and taking it out anyway. Isn't the button on the console enough? Or are some worried if the button on the console fails?


Updated thought on the eject button. Where would you put it? If you changed software so you could change one of the control buttons to be the eject button, then hitting it would eject a disc just as easily as one accidently touching or brushing the power on/off button on the controller. Now you go out for several hours to come home and find your dog chewed your 60.00 game or BD movie. If that was the case you would then have to have the gaming software set so it doesn't eject while playing a game, cd, dvd or whatever. If you had to go to a submenu to eject using the controller, by the time you did it you could get up probably several times and eject manually. Unless I am not thinking through this or missing something, I now think an eject button would not only be unnecessary, but it would be a bad idea. My guess would be the designers of the controller already thought through this and that is why it isn't available, not that it couldn't be. They thought about all the DVD/BD controls when playing movies when designing, so I am sure they didn't miss thinking through the eject button.

DaverJ
12-07-06, 02:52 PM
THis has already been addressed and here is why I think it is not only unnecessary but a bad idea:


Hugh... Your point was made in a previous post. There are others that have reasons for wanting to eject via remote, and it can be implemented as safely as it is to turn off the system or to eject most any other DVD player or game console.

In_Hidding_PJ
12-08-06, 02:48 AM
If I may...

Ability to change the HDMI 1080p output from 60Mhz to 24Mhz.

DaverJ
12-08-06, 08:13 AM
If I may...

Ability to change the HDMI 1080p output from 60Mhz to 24Mhz.

It's on there: "-Pure 1080p/24 output"

In_Hidding_PJ
12-08-06, 01:49 PM
It's on there: "-Pure 1080p/24 output"

UGG, my apologies, poor search criteria on my part.

Great thread DaverJ and to all that have contributed.

Dralt
12-08-06, 02:10 PM
Do you want The Jerk answer? Here it is: Because I can on the 360.

Do you want The Lazy Man answer? Because by the time I get off the couch and over to my entertainment stad it would be ready for me to take out of the PS3.

I doubt it would take much time to implement, this is a function of the drive, and it just seems like a logical thing to have programmed into the GUI.

Before Sony spends any time satisfying jerks and lazy people, they should probably address the defect section.

This list is well intended and all, but it starts to look like a laundry list.

coneyparleg
12-08-06, 02:56 PM
how about email alerts for additions to PS Store and update releases, and for when you get messages from buddies on the PS Network

-Just Throwing this out there

meancode
12-08-06, 03:16 PM
how about email alerts for additions to PS Store and update releases, and for when you get messages from buddies on the PS Network

-Just Throwing this out there

You do get a notice, in the same spot as all the other ones. It tells you who sent it, and what the subject line is. You just can't read it when you are in game. Hmmm, I wonder where I have done that before? :P

They don't need an email notification system for new content on the PS Store, theye need a dedicated section on us.playstation.com for that.

criz
12-10-06, 06:11 AM
How about turning off the controllers when the system has been left idle for a period of time to keep the controllers from running out their batteries?

DrewN
12-10-06, 12:02 PM
Not sure if this has been discussed, but the resolution switching in HDMI is plain sloppy--with white noise and staticy screens appearing whenever the resolution changes. Not sure if everyone experiences this, but the way PS3 handles HDMI resolution switching is extremely poor.

DaverJ
12-10-06, 01:25 PM
How about turning off the controllers when the system has been left idle for a period of time to keep the controllers from running out their batteries?

Don't they do this? I was watching a BD movie last night and wanted to take a bathroom break, so I grabbed the controller and hit the play/pause and nothing happen -- it was off. I'm guessing it was over an hour or so into the movie, so I believe maybe 1 hour of inactivity turns the controller off.

Can anyone confirm this? :confused: I don't know how my controller turned off by itself....

ninjanki
12-11-06, 11:34 AM
As was mentioned on a previous post, one of the high priority updates for BD playback is 720p downscaling. Several TVs that downscale 1080i to 720p do not implement proper de-interlacing, some time reducing the effective resolution to 540p before upscaling to 720p. If the PS3 does it from the 1080p original, the resulting resolution will be much closer to the original. I don't believe it's that hard to downscale 1080p to 720p(the GPU certainly can do it). And since the system does support HDCP, there is no security or anti-piracy reason to not support that.

Allan

DaverJ
12-11-06, 01:05 PM
As was mentioned on a previous post, one of the high priority updates for BD playback is 720p downscaling.

Allan... added "-support for 720p Blu-Ray playback" at the top of technical requests.

HDTV5.1
12-15-06, 01:08 AM
I would like to see support for any lossless codec for ripping my CD's - I don't care that is only a 60gig drive - i can use an external hd - That would make me happy

DaverJ
12-15-06, 08:16 AM
I would like to see support for any lossless codec for ripping my CD's - I don't care that is only a 60gig drive - i can use an external hd - That would make me happy

Added.

dboss
12-15-06, 11:07 AM
Don't they do this? I was watching a BD movie last night and wanted to take a bathroom break, so I grabbed the controller and hit the play/pause and nothing happen -- it was off. I'm guessing it was over an hour or so into the movie, so I believe maybe 1 hour of inactivity turns the controller off.

Can anyone confirm this? :confused: I don't know how my controller turned off by itself....

I believe you are correct. I believe the timer on it starts when the PS3 screen darkens, such as when downloading something for awhile. Does that makes sense?

chris r in pa
12-15-06, 11:40 AM
I am getting white crush during games that I cannot adjust for no matter how much I mess with contrast/gamma. Using the system to Denon 2807 to AE900. Ughh...a system this high tech should not be doing this!

bgarner
12-15-06, 02:51 PM
Just going over the list, you mention that the ability to zoom, enchance fonts in Browser is fixed. I have my PS3 connected to my 42PX50 Panasonic Plasma and I still can't read anything in the Browswer when standing more than 5 feet away. Is there any steps I am suppose to do in order to zoom? I have tried increasing fonts to +2 but still not coming out clear.

I have the PS3 outputting 1080p?

Anyone have any suggestions?

DaverJ
12-16-06, 10:02 AM
Just going over the list, you mention that the ability to zoom, enchance fonts in Browser is fixed. I have my PS3 connected to my 42PX50 Panasonic Plasma and I still can't read anything in the Browswer when standing more than 5 feet away. Is there any steps I am suppose to do in order to zoom?

This is something I've been meaning to to - I split the larger fonts/zoom request and kept larger fonts as fixed, but put the zoom browser feature back up to the enhancement request list.

I can read gmail and AVS fine at +2, but sites with fixed fonts like penny-arcade are still way to small on an HDTV.

JoshuaL
12-16-06, 12:25 PM
Here's one that really bugs me:

Allow image to be stretched (manually if possible) on PS2/PS1 games to eliminate the huge underscan present. This seems like a pretty easy option to add to the 'PS button' menu of PS2/1 games, and would make the experience much nicer.

WhatHuh
12-16-06, 02:50 PM
Someone could correct me if this is supported (just got the unit last night). I noticed when selecting sound for the Optical cable Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1 were available options (which I checked).

There was no box to check DTS 6.1ES (or other 6 and 7 channel set-ups). I know that DolbyTrueHd and DTSHD are onlly delivered via HDMI -- but why is the optical cable limited to only supporting 5.1 channel formats?

I would like to add: Support 6.1 and 7.1 channel formats through the Optical cable such as DTS 6.1ES and Dolby Digital EX.

Some of the more knowledgable people on the forum may be able to express this request more accurately (or correct me if this is already supported).
I would like to second this. I'm sorry if I missed any replies, has anyone found any info regarding this?

DaverJ
12-16-06, 08:14 PM
Allow image to be stretched (manually if possible) on PS2/PS1 games to eliminate the huge underscan present.

Added to the list.... thanks Joshua!

DaverJ
12-16-06, 08:24 PM
Someone could correct me if this is supported (just got the unit last night). I noticed when selecting sound for the Optical cable Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1 were available options (which I checked).

There was no box to check DTS 6.1ES (or other 6 and 7 channel set-ups). I know that DolbyTrueHd and DTSHD are onlly delivered via HDMI -- but why is the optical cable limited to only supporting 5.1 channel formats?

I would like to add: Support 6.1 and 7.1 channel formats through the Optical cable such as DTS 6.1ES and Dolby Digital EX.

Some of the more knowledgable people on the forum may be able to express this request more accurately (or correct me if this is already supported).

If you are talking about audio support for standard DVDs, this is not a problem with the PS3. I just threw in a Lord of the Rings Extended DVD and my Denon read it as DTS discrete... meaning it was getting the extra DTS rear channels.

BLS871
12-18-06, 07:40 PM
One thing I would really like to see that I'm not sure has been mentioned is the ability to download TVs show and full length movies in HD, like one supposedly can on Xbox. That would be damn cool I think.

coneyparleg
12-19-06, 11:24 AM
If you are talking about audio support for standard DVDs, this is not a problem with the PS3. I just threw in a Lord of the Rings Extended DVD and my Denon read it as DTS discrete... meaning it was getting the extra DTS rear channels.
I can double confirm this

UxiSXRD
12-19-06, 03:48 PM
I got DTS ES (6.1) on my AVR from both Xmen 3 Blu-ray and LOTR EE DVD.

UxiSXRD
12-20-06, 04:57 PM
I'd really like to see the Dual Shock 3, rumble or no, it looks like a much more ergonomic design.

Software update wise... I don't really give a fig about 720p. I do wish the PS3 would upscale the 720p games to 1080i, which is my preferred setting since I know the deinterlacing behavior and modes very well my HDTV. Ultimately, this isn't as good a solution as the software developers making games for both 720p & 1080i (if not 1080p).

I also think having auto-login to PSN should be selectable, regardless of whether there's a saved pass or not.

Oh yeah, I think the network summary page should be linked whenever there's a failure to connection. The page itself was invaluable, but i didn't check the summary page until after a couple failures to connect (only resolved when I upgrade from 1.10 to 1.31 via Memory Stick).

Jules343
12-20-06, 11:33 PM
One thing I would really like to see that I'm not sure has been mentioned is the ability to download TVs show and full length movies in HD, like one supposedly can on Xbox. That would be damn cool I think.
Sony already has plans for that.

Have we been able to get some Sony reps on board with this thread to help relay our desires?

kmcrawfo
12-21-06, 09:56 AM
Currently it does not seem as if the PS3 can display games in widescreen (i.e. 16:9) on 4:3 CRT 1080i TV sets. I would like to see an update that allows 1080i signal for games to be given in a 16:9 aspect ratio on the older 4:3, 1080i HDTV sets. (Black bars above and below the picture).

If anyone has figured out how to do this, let me know. I spoke with sony and they had no idea and said I had to wait for an update or buy a new TV.

DaverJ
12-21-06, 10:08 AM
older 4:3, 1080i HDTV sets.

There are HDTVs that output 1080i but aren't 16:9? :confused:

kmcrawfo
12-21-06, 10:15 AM
There are HDTVs that output 1080i but aren't 16:9? :confused:

Yes, the original HDTVs (6-7 years ago) were CRT, 4:3 aspect ratio sets that displayed only 480i, 480p, and 1080i. I bought mine 6 years ago and it has a beautiful 1080i HD picture. However, this is one of the sets the PS3 is not working correctly with. I can buy a new TV, but I would prefer to wait another year or so to see what happens with the PS3 from a firmware standpoint.

DaverJ
12-21-06, 10:25 AM
Yes, the original HDTVs (6-7 years ago) were CRT, 4:3 aspect ratio sets that displayed only 480i, 480p, and 1080i.

Ah yes... how quickly we forget.

Added "letterbox support for 4:3 HD sets". Please post an update if you figure out this is already a feature.

Mattdoc
12-25-06, 03:01 PM
Here's one that really bugs me:

Allow image to be stretched (manually if possible) on PS2/PS1 games to eliminate the huge underscan present. This seems like a pretty easy option to add to the 'PS button' menu of PS2/1 games, and would make the experience much nicer.
I would like this calibration option for PS3 games as well. The overscan on MUA is way too much in 1080i, and I have heard similar complaints about GTHD. Using the PS button and then lining a frame up on the TV should not be too hard to do (Can calibrate with the joysticks on the controller).

DaverJ
12-27-06, 05:08 PM
I would like this calibration option for PS3 games as well.

Good point... I removed the "PS1/PS2" indication for the game screen resize request.

Brian Hampton
12-27-06, 05:25 PM
I would like to see PAL support. I have some region-free DVD's that happen to be PAL format that I can't play.

For Example... Pink Floyd PULSE, Someone brought me this from Europe and it's region free but happens to be PAL and I can't play it. I've got some other region-free PAL too that I can't remember just now.

-Brian

mchamblissII
12-27-06, 10:43 PM
Hey DaverJ could you add this to the list?

What really bugs me is I hope they have a firmware update where when u play your ps1/2 that you don't have to have it plug up to the usb port while playin the old playstation game. But rather play it wireless I hate pushing the stupid ps circle to recognize it.

mchamblissII
12-27-06, 10:52 PM
Hey DaverJ I just posted your list on playstation forum for you. Hopefully they will read it and the one you have posted here.

DaverJ
12-28-06, 12:12 PM
What really bugs me is I hope they have a firmware update where when u play your ps1/2 that you don't have to have it plug up to the usb port while playin the old playstation game. But rather play it wireless I hate pushing the stupid ps circle to recognize it.

Yea... I don't think they will change this because of how it is designed, but I added the PS button restriction in with improved controller compatibility in PS1/2 mode. It is very frustrating.

UxiSXRD
12-28-06, 01:10 PM
Huh? My controller loses it's signal but as soon as I hit the PS button it resyncs when going to PS1/2 games. Usually I do it as soon as I see the PlayStation2 logo and it's there before the game itself has loaded. I've been playing Battlestar:Galactica for PS2 and GTA: San Andreas alot recently on my PS3, so have become very familiar with this behavior. So much so that it's interfering with my NBA07 and NHL2k7 seasons. :D

I'd like to add my support for the autoplay of Blu-ray/DVD's when inserted, but I'm thinking larger. The way the hypervisor 'sees' and organizes videos/pictures (they show up in the appropriate section of the XMB: Video, for example) that we should have a System Setting category for Auto-play.

particularly, I'd like to be able to set myself the option to autoplay BD, but to give me a 3-second or so opportunity to cancel that autoplay. To expand on the idea: insert BD disc a notification would pop up and say "Autoplay in 3, 2, 1..." and you could press "O" or "X" or whatever to cancel but if you didn't before the countdown completed, it would then autoplay to the game/BD/DVD main menu/title. It would actually be best if we could adjust that countdown time ourselves... I'm thinking anywhere between 0 and 10 seconds. The best would be if we could set it individually, say 3 seconds for a BD/DVD and 5 seconds for a game, for example.

One other thing is that I'd like to be able to reorganize the order of the Demo's//item categories. I want GT:HD to be the default game or I might want it to be on the save game folder so I don't get a music / splash screen by default.

DaverJ
12-28-06, 08:25 PM
Good thoughts UxiSXRD.

For simplicity sake I'm going to keep the list to more general wishes... but maybe someday after many updates the list will dwindle and we can start modifying to be more specific.

Mattdoc
12-29-06, 12:00 AM
Here's a thought. How about 540p support? Most older sets w/o 720p that are experiencing the whole 1080i/720p/480p issue could support 540p, and this is at least a little better than 480p. And if it can down scale to 480p, why not 540p?

jasond2
12-29-06, 12:40 PM
My roomate and I have separate user accounts set up, for obvious reasons. However, when we go to play against each other in Tiger Woods, or presumably any other EA sports game, we can't play with our custom characters, unless that user is logged in. Certainly there must be away to update the firmware so you can load up another user's character when playing in two player mode.

DaverJ
12-29-06, 01:05 PM
My roomate and I have separate user accounts set up, for obvious reasons. However, when we go to play against each other in Tiger Woods, or presumably any other EA sports game, we can't play with our custom characters, unless that user is logged in. Certainly there must be away to update the firmware so you can load up another user's character when playing in two player mode.

Interesting... this seems like something that will have to be fixed at some point.

Added to the list: "-option to allow a guest or second account on the same system for on-line multiplayer"

jasond2
12-29-06, 04:05 PM
Actually, I'm not referring to online play. This is for standard 2 player versus mode, when were both playing on the same system.

DaverJ
12-29-06, 04:27 PM
Actually, I'm not referring to online play. This is for standard 2 player versus mode, when were both playing on the same system.

Ah... I didn't word that well. How about "-option to allow a guest or second PS account login on the same system for off-line and on-line multiplayer"

bdlab
12-29-06, 07:51 PM
It would be nice to have support for hd transport streams with h264 video and AC3 or MPEG-2 audio (50 and 60 Hz). In Europe all HD broadcasts are now coded in H264/AC3 ts format. This feature should also allow direct playback of AVCHD camcorder files (without the requirement to burn a DVD or Blue-Ray disc).

DaverJ
12-29-06, 07:57 PM
It would be nice to have support for hd transport streams with h264 video and AC3 or MPEG-2 audio (50 and 60 Hz). In Europe all HD broadcasts are now coded in H264/AC3 ts format. This feature should also allow direct playback of AVCHD camcorder files (without the requirement to burn a DVD or Blue-Ray disc).

Welcome to the forum bdlab!

Some of this was on the list, but I added H264 video to the list and updated the AC3/mpeg2 audio for 50 and 60 Hz.

gamelover360
12-30-06, 08:03 AM
This thread is great. Thanks for doing it DaverJ. :)

Fountainhead
12-30-06, 12:48 PM
I see that you have on the list the ability to turn on auto-start for blu-ray discs..

But how about the ability to turn off auto-start for games in the system tray when the unit is started up?

I know that sometimes I turn off the system with a game in it and forget.. when I turn the system back on, it automatically starts even though I might want to play another game..

I see you got the eject from controller on there.. I fully agree with that one!

Ability to send messages to people on friends list while still in a game?

Marc Alexander
12-30-06, 04:28 PM
I haven't seen anyone mention improving keyboard/mouse support while in web browser mode. I would like the ability to assign functions to the keyboard function keys as well as editing mouse attributes (scroll speed, right click, etc.).

DaverJ
12-30-06, 10:51 PM
But how about the ability to turn off auto-start for games in the system tray when the unit is started up?
This is "boot to XMB".


Ability to send messages to people on friends list while still in a game?
good idea... added "-in-game messaging"

DaverJ
12-30-06, 10:53 PM
I haven't seen anyone mention improving keyboard/mouse support while in web browser mode. I would like the ability to assign functions to the keyboard function keys as well as editing mouse attributes (scroll speed, right click, etc.).

Great suggestion, added.

matt5112
12-31-06, 01:29 AM
It would make my PS3 experience much better if it could play lossless WMA files. seeing as PSP already plays normal WMA files i dont see this as being much of a problem, yet it still hasnt been implimented. Until then ill be continuing to transfer my entire cd collection to my PS3 in WAV (Linear PCM 16bit 44.1kHz) format. The bad part about this is that Wav files cannot have tags therefore you have to re-enter all of the song information.

UxiSXRD
12-31-06, 03:48 AM
I don't see anything about allowing a bluetooth keyboard/mouse to sync without USB. Received a Logitech MX5000 as a gift and would sure like to pull that little USB receiver thing since the PS3 has bluetooth on board. Works fine with it, but built in bluetooth should be fine instead of the little dongle.

With a PC, you have to have the USB receiver when you first install, but if your laptop or Apple or whatever has bluetooth in it, then you can later ditch the USB receiver once the software is installed. I imagine the PS3 analog should be to register the keyboard/mouse as separate devices.

DaverJ
12-31-06, 03:56 PM
It would make my PS3 experience much better if it could play lossless WMA files. seeing as PSP already plays normal WMA files i dont see this as being much of a problem, yet it still hasnt been implimented. Until then ill be continuing to transfer my entire cd collection to my PS3 in WAV (Linear PCM 16bit 44.1kHz) format. The bad part about this is that Wav files cannot have tags therefore you have to re-enter all of the song information.

there's a request for any lossless codec for CD ripping... seems like a good place to start.

DaverJ
12-31-06, 03:57 PM
I don't see anything about allowing a bluetooth keyboard/mouse to sync without USB.

I believe that would be covered under "-support for GEOP (Generic Object Exchange Profile) in Bluetooth"

fingersdlp
01-03-07, 11:43 AM
Someone else mentioned this but it did not make the list yet.

MPEG2 PS files with AC3 5.1 audio are output with only 2 channel pcm audio over optical. It should just pass the ac3 audio to the receiver for decoding.

Multichannel audio for my media files is important so I hope this gets looked at.

If someone using HDMI for audio has had success with this working please let me know.

The BD Movies I have with AC3 soundtracks all work OK over the optical.

Thanks

DaverJ
01-03-07, 01:52 PM
MPEG2 PS files with AC3 5.1 audio are output with only 2 channel pcm audio over optical. It should just pass the ac3 audio to the receiver for decoding.

Multichannel audio for my media files is important so I hope this gets looked at.


Thanks for posting... added "-pass-through option for ac3 audio via optical"

mmukalian
01-03-07, 04:01 PM
Didn't see this on the list, but I might have totally missed it...

Allowing resolution changes via the PS button while in-game.

Pressing the PS button now brings up a small menu of operations. It could also bring up an option to change the resolution to one of a list of already scanned for/supported resolutions. This way one doesn't have to keep changing it at the XMB level.

DaverJ
01-03-07, 04:42 PM
Didn't see this on the list, but I might have totally missed it...

Allowing resolution changes via the PS button while in-game.


On the list as "-ability to switch resolutions on-the-fly".

I think this is probably one the least likely requests to come true due to a lack of resolution scaler on the PS3, but who knows..?

fingersdlp
01-03-07, 06:47 PM
Thanks for posting... added "-pass-through option for ac3 audio via optical"

Actuall ac3 pass through works for commercial bd movies over optical. This is specific to content in the mpeg2 ps format so you might want to specify it as:

"pass-through for ac3 audio via optical for mpeg2 ps files"

Thanks

DaverJ
01-04-07, 08:31 AM
Actuall ac3 pass through works for commercial bd movies over optical. This is specific to content in the mpeg2 ps format so you might want to specify it as:

"pass-through for ac3 audio via optical for mpeg2 ps files"

Thanks

Gotcha... updated.

coneyparleg
01-04-07, 09:54 AM
Sorry if someone beat me to this-

allowing files to be transfered wirelessly from PC to PS3 via the PSP hooked to the PC by usb and connecting to the PS3 remotely

matt5112
01-04-07, 11:14 AM
A free official MPEG 4 encoder that guarentees to create files that can be played on PS3. My PS3's being very picky with the types of MPEG-4 files it will play. I would think that the PS3 itself would be amazingly fast at re-encoding video considering its multithreading capabilities. I spent 14 hours re-encoding the first half of pulp fiction to 1080P (no HD verison will be availible anytime soon) All for PS3 to claim it was an invalid file.

DaverJ
01-04-07, 01:21 PM
allowing files to be transfered wirelessly from PC to PS3 via the PSP hooked to the PC by usb and connecting to the PS3 remotely

...kinda covered with "-stream pics, movies and music off networked PCs, Macs or NAS devices"...?

DaverJ
01-04-07, 01:25 PM
A free official MPEG 4 encoder that guarentees to create files that can be played on PS3. My PS3's being very picky with the types of MPEG-4 files it will play. I would think that the PS3 itself would be amazingly fast at re-encoding video considering its multithreading capabilities. I spent 14 hours re-encoding the first half of pulp fiction to 1080P (no HD verison will be availible anytime soon) All for PS3 to claim it was an invalid file.

Hi Matt...

I don't think this is really anything that a software update to the PS3 can accomplish.

Unless you know the specific MPEG4 codec that the PS3 won't recognize...?

84jeepjohn
01-05-07, 10:46 AM
I do not know if this has been mentiond yet, if so sorry.

I would love to be able to DL something and back out and while it's downloading (it's taking FOREVER wired or wireless) play a game or do something else OTHER than look at the load screen. It took about 20-40 min to DL motorstorm. :( not cool with a DSL link I felt like I was doing dial-up again.

matt5112
01-05-07, 03:38 PM
Hi Matt...

I don't think this is really anything that a software update to the PS3 can accomplish.

Unless you know the specific MPEG4 codec that the PS3 won't recognize...?
well i started rather off topic but in the end a video encoder that operates in the PS3 OS is essentially what im suggesting, however mad it may seem :P

image1
01-06-07, 01:10 AM
I know that there's a request for any lossless codec for CD ripping but, I'd personally like to see support for FLAC playback.

Also it would be great if there where more options for organizing/viewing/navigating content in the "MUSIC" system. example: if you choose to "sort by" or "group content" being able to choose an id3 tag and then *also* be able to furhter organize by any id3 tag that is a subset of the first id3 tag. So I could "group content" by genre and then "sort by" artist and then "sort by" album.

just my $0.02

image1
01-06-07, 01:20 AM
RE: album art

under "Enhancement requests to improve general operation:" is a request for album art.

This works just fine (at least for MP3's) if you've got you files properly taged. FWIW I use Tag&Rename (http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm) to tag all my MP3 and FLAC files.

sethhobrin
01-08-07, 10:54 PM
I am having some major problems. Please add these to the list.

I have a Sony Grand Wega XBR2 60" television and a Sony STR-DE985 receiver. I am running HDMI to my tv for video and I am running Optical audio cable to my reciever.

Video on PS3 is set to HDMI. Audio is set to Optical, Bitstream, 5.1 and DD. I have fully updated the firmware and have even reformatted my ps3.

Here are my issues.

-Played Underworld Evolution and I experience audio cut outs in certain repeatable points of the movie.

-Whenever i insert a BD in to the ps3 while it is in standbye it boots up and goes to a grey screen and never starts the movie. My ps3 is then hard froze. I can only insert a BD while the XMB is loaded.

-I insert Terminator 2 and It has the little icon in the uppper right corner and it never goes away. I hear sound from the movie loading. My PS3 is then hard frozen and I need to use the switch to turn it off. Try a couple more times and finally I get video. I start the movie and this giant message appears on my TV saying it is an unsupported audio format? What the hell is this? Why would my PS3 be sending audio signals to my television via HDMI? Here is the kicker. While I see this message I get no video from the BD but 5.1 audio is coming from my reciever. So far Terminator 2 is completely unplayable on my ps3. I don't know what the deal is. A couple of times I have gotten the movie to start however it will freeze on a frame of the movie and the audio will keep going. I cannot get ride of the frozen frame and must power down the ps3. Driving me nuts. Only happens on the T2 BD

-Ice Age meltdown - perfect playback. No audio or video problems.

-Stargate - perfect playback, no audio or video problems.

DaverJ
01-08-07, 11:32 PM
Seth...

Sorry to hear you are having problems... that sucks. However, this list is more for feature upgrade requests via software and not troubleshooting system problems. I'm sure there's a more appropriate thread here on AVS.

Anyway, I hope you get your issues worked out!

Jules343
01-09-07, 12:01 AM
-Whenever i insert a BD in to the ps3 while it is in standbye it boots up and goes to a grey screen and never starts the movie. My ps3 is then hard froze. I can only insert a BD while the XMB is loaded.

That is not normal. Email/Call Sony, you might have a defective unit on your hands.

Brian Hampton
01-10-07, 10:26 AM
Jules,

Whenever I insert a Blu Ray disc or DVD when the PS3 is in standby it boots up and plays it.

That's what "ought" to be happening.

-Brian

chipvideo
01-10-07, 12:32 PM
1. Better GUI
2. Better wireless support.

DaverJ
01-10-07, 01:07 PM
1. Better GUI
2. Better wireless support.

...specifically, what would make the GUI better? XMB "themes" is on the list.

Also, besides IR support and fixing the occasional brief controller loss bug (both issues on the list), what should be addressed to improve wireless support?

epsilon72
01-10-07, 02:16 PM
I have something to add, if it hasn't been mentioned already -

~Fix the graphics glitch with 480i only PS2 games, as is detailed in this board (http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=808212).

It is a major annoyance for those of us trying to play games like Final Fantasy XII on our PS3's. I'm holding off on finishing it until the problem is fixed.

DaverJ
01-10-07, 02:27 PM
I have something to add, if it hasn't been mentioned already -

~Fix the graphics glitch with 480i only PS2 games, as is detailed in this board (http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=808212).

It is a major annoyance for those of us trying to play games like Final Fantasy XII on our PS3's. I'm holding off on finishing it until the problem is fixed.

Totally agree... on the list as "-fix the jaggy display problem with non-progressive PS1/2 games". I hope this isn't a hardware issue, because it looks particularly bad on larger screens. I want to play FFXII someday and would prefer to do it on the PS3 and not the PS2... which is still hooked up for the Guitar Hero controller.

epsilon72
01-10-07, 02:28 PM
Totally agree... on the list as "-fix the jaggy display problem with non-progressive PS1/2 games". I hope this isn't a hardware issue, because it looks particularly bad on larger screens. I want to play FFXII someday and would prefer to do it on the PS3 and not the PS2... which is still hooked up for the Guitar Hero controller.

From what I've read on other forums, it's an issue with how the PS3 emulates the PS2's operating environment, so theoretically it is fixable. The major hurdle we have here is that Sony isn't that willing to admit it is a problem yet.

Jules343
01-10-07, 03:49 PM
Jules,

Whenever I insert a Blu Ray disc or DVD when the PS3 is in standby it boots up and plays it.

That's what "ought" to be happening.

-Brian
Don't want to get this thred OT, but I think you meant to reply to Sethobrin

aos007
01-10-07, 06:15 PM
Fix the fan controller software so it can slow the fan down if the temperature drops without having to turn off the system (the only current way to "reset" fan behaviour).

Fix the fan controller software so it is more leninent and doesn't go to "turbine" mode if the machine is just sitting in the XMB (perhaps temperature settings are too conservative?). It is definitely a far cry from what we were promised - my PS3 is most of the time just as loud as original PS2 and just a bit quieter than Xbox360 in dashboard.

-Whenever i insert a BD in to the ps3 while it is in standbye it boots up and goes to a grey screen and never starts the movie. My ps3 is then hard froze. I can only insert a BD while the XMB is loaded.

...and...

Whenever I insert a Blu Ray disc or DVD when the PS3 is in standby it boots up and plays it.

That's what "ought" to be happening.

Actually this happened to me as well last night. I paused my PS3 during BluRay playback and pressed a new activity on my Harmony to go to PC mode. I have a PS2 IR receiver via USB to PS2 converter cable so I can use Harmony to control PS3. Anyhow, I noticed the PS3 went into "are you sure you want to turn off the system?" screen before TV switched input, as the remote sent probably the power off command or something. I got up later and manually, blindly turned it off by "holding" the power "key" down. Some time later I also blindly turned it on to estimate the noise as I was replying to someone on this forum. I switched TV input later and noticed that PS3 was on a gray screen, seemingly frozen. It DID react to PS button on the controller and offered only two options, to turn off system or controller. No other key presses were detected and you couldn't quit to XMB or resume movie. So this looks like a bug - if you turn off your PS3 manually while it's on the "are you sure you want to turn off the system?" then it will effectively freeze once turned on again - or, return to the "previous state" if you will, but only allowing you to turn it off.

Jules343
01-10-07, 08:32 PM
Fix the fan controller software so it can slow the fan down if the temperature drops without having to turn off the system (the only current way to "reset" fan behaviour).

Fix the fan controller software so it is more leninent and doesn't go to "turbine" mode if the machine is just sitting in the XMB (perhaps temperature settings are too conservative?). It is definitely a far cry from what we were promised - my PS3 is most of the time just as loud as original PS2 and just a bit quieter than Xbox360 in dashboard.
Fan speed does drop without having to reset the system it slows down when the system reaches a preset level, no idea what temp it is though. I've noticed it can take a good bit of time, but it will go down to near silent. The only time I've noticed the fan on high while in the XMB is if I was just playing a game or watching a BD movie and exited out to the XMB.

Would you rather the thing burn itself out?

aos007
01-10-07, 09:37 PM
Would you rather the thing burn itself out?

No, but I also don't want to be a victim of Sony's knee-jerk reaction to widespread reports of PS3's overheating, mostly demo units in stores. I don't need a unit that will survive a small enclosed space. And also, being silent is one of the big selling points. With it gone, there's really nothing left about PS3 that I feel good about right now.

I'll do the test to see if fan ever slows down to the medium setting. I do know that it never goes back to near-silent state, after 20 minutes have passed, because I left it on for hours for the exact purpose of ascertaining that.

Jules343
01-10-07, 09:46 PM
No, but I also don't want to be a victim of Sony's knee-jerk reaction to widespread reports of PS3's overheating, mostly demo units in stores. I don't need a unit that will survive a small enclosed space. And also, being silent is one of the big selling points. With it gone, there's really nothing left about PS3 that I feel good about right now.

I'll do the test to see if fan ever slows down to the medium setting. I do know that it never goes back to near-silent state, after 20 minutes have passed, because I left it on for hours for the exact purpose of ascertaining that.
Odd that yours doesn't

aos007
01-11-07, 01:11 AM
Odd that yours doesn't

I just donwloaded and played GT HD demo v1.1. During download temperature was 52C and fan was spinning with medium speed. During the game it must have gone to 56+ since the fan was at full speed when I quit the game and went back to XMB. Then I watched some stuff on my TV. Half an hour later, PS3 is still in full blow loud mode despite sitting in the dashboard for that long. Temperature has also dropped to 46. Yet the fan does not slow down. This is what I'd like to get fixed in the coming firmware releases.

Oh, one more thing - not sure if it's on the list already. Ability to resume playback of BD if you eject/turn off the disk. I have a habit of watching them only partially then resuming the next day (don't ask). At the very least, it should remember where I left off for the disk that's still in, if not for the last few disks (certainly no lack of hdd space to store that info). These kind of features separate real disk players from temporary stopgap players.

LynxFX
01-11-07, 02:44 AM
Been playing with the browser and here's some changes it really needs: (some I think are on the list already but I'll add them anyway)

Increase Font Size -- The list states that this was fixed in 1.3. Well it needs more. +2 is not enough. We should be able to make the text the size of fists if we wanted to like any other browser out there. But at least give us a few more size increases because right now it is almost useless for most sites.

Zoom -- On the list. Inconjunction with the larger font, being able to zoom in and around on a page would be great.

Close Window Button -- Right now you have to hit triangle, go to tools (I think), scroll all the way to the bottom to select close window. It should either be assignable to a button the controller, or one of the first options on the first screen when you hit the triangle button.

Enable larger cache/memory error -- If I go to a site with flash, even modest flash I usually get an 'out of memory' error and the page loads up blank.

Video Plugins -- It would be great to be able to play embedded quicktime or windows media files right on the webpage.

"Right Click" -- Allow the ability to 'right-click' and save items such as pictures off of a webpage. Assignable on the controller, or enable the right mouse button if people are using a mouse to browse.

Minimize Browser -- Allow browser to be 'minimized' if you need to go back to the XMB, instead of having to close it completely. I believe you can have it recall all the last windows that were open, but it would be nice to not have to wait for it to load up each time you jump back to the XMB and back to browser.

Speed -- The browser renders the screen like an old Pentium II right now. Most apparent on flash files (if you can get them to load without a memory error). A flash .mov that normally runs at 30fps runs at 1-2fps on the PS3. It needs to be optimised for the cell processor.

The browser needs a lot of work and I hope Sony continues to update and improve it. I don't want it to just be a gimmick feature as I can find it extremely useful. Why run to my computer to check my email, when I can flip on the browser and kinda/sorta (see fix #1) read it on my tv? Also great for websites that play episodes of past tv shows you might have missed. Allow the PS3 to play that, and zoom in on the video. Or work with the networks to make a PS3centric version and allow them to be downloaded to your videos to watch. Lots of possibilities and potential.

Jules343
01-11-07, 02:46 AM
Been playing with the browser and here's some changes it really needs: (some I think are on the list already but I'll add them anyway)

Increase Font Size -- The list states that this was fixed in 1.3. Well it needs more. +2 is not enough. We should be able to make the text the size of fists if we wanted to like any other browser out there. But at least give us a few more size increases because right now it is almost useless for most sites.

Zoom -- On the list. Inconjunction with the larger font, being able to zoom in and around on a page would be great.

Close Window Button -- Right now you have to hit triangle, go to tools (I think), scroll all the way to the bottom to select close window. It should either be assignable to a button the controller, or one of the first options on the first screen when you hit the triangle button.

Enable larger cache/memory error -- If I go to a site with flash, even modest flash I usually get an 'out of memory' error and the page loads up blank.

Video Plugins -- It would be great to be able to play embedded quicktime or windows media files right on the webpage.

"Right Click" -- Allow the ability to 'right-click' and save items such as pictures off of a webpage. Assignable on the controller, or enable the right mouse button if people are using a mouse to browse.

Minimize Browser -- Allow browser to be 'minimized' if you need to go back to the XMB, instead of having to close it completely. I believe you can have it recall all the last windows that were open, but it would be nice to not have to wait for it to load up each time you jump back to the XMB and back to browser.

Speed -- The browser renders the screen like an old Pentium II right now. Most apparent on flash files (if you can get them to load without a memory error). A flash .mov that normally runs at 30fps runs at 1-2fps on the PS3. It needs to be optimised for the cell processor.

The browser needs a lot of work and I hope Sony continues to update and improve it. I don't want it to just be a gimmick feature as I can find it extremely useful. Why run to my computer to check my email, when I can flip on the browser and kinda/sorta (see fix #1) read it on my tv? Also great for websites that play episodes of past tv shows you might have missed. Allow the PS3 to play that, and zoom in on the video. Or work with the networks to make a PS3centric version and allow them to be downloaded to your videos to watch. Lots of possibilities and potential.
R3, triangle, close window
Video would be neat, but Sony would have to pay license fees

LynxFX
01-11-07, 02:59 AM
R3, triangle, close window

Thanks, I figured there were shortcuts that I didn't know about, but figured to post the entire list anyway inhopes they show themselves. :)

Shawn1957
01-11-07, 10:54 AM
For me, the most important thing would be support for 768p.

Tripjammer
01-12-07, 04:07 PM
I want auto generation of the Album Covers when you rip a CD on the PS3!

DaverJ
01-12-07, 04:16 PM
I want auto generation of the Album Covers when you rip a CD on the PS3!

On the list as -ability to download album art for music in CD or on the hard drive

matt5112
01-12-07, 09:29 PM
For me, the most important thing would be support for 768p.
Even though i do have a 768P TV (Sony Grand Wega) I dont really feel it would be nesisary because it overscans reguardless of the resolution. Also its that easy for the PS3 to do because games that typically render in 720P max would run slower in 768P when compared to 720P and this could be a problem for the game devs which they probably wont ever touch. 360 gets around all of this by having a hardware scaler (kinda cheating really..)

Krieger119
01-13-07, 01:40 AM
Well, I just got my PS3 from CC. Did the initial setup n' all with my 60" SXRD running through HDMI. I haven't played any games b/c I'm waiting for my boy at EA to send me Madden, Fight Night, NFS: Carbon. I did download Motorstorm demo b/c I'm so anxious to play that game ... those previews leave me blown away. However, when I played it I was not really impressed. Maybe its b/c it was playing at 720 on my TV .. .I don't know but I guess I'll just wait for the EA games to arrive and also for the upcoming games to drop (b/c I did buy this with the intention and acceptance that we won't be seeing real usage of Blu-Ray's capacity on games for some time depending on developers). The only negative so far is the Browser ... I was trying to check my yahoo mail and the page took too long to load so I just exited the browser (doesn't really bother me anyway b/c I didn't even know I'd be able to surf the net on the PS3).
I haven't tried the sixaxis feature yet but the controller itself is just ok. I think the R2 and L2 buttons were changed to what they are to be similar but different to the 360 triggers. They seem so similar but they kept it looking the way they looked on the PS2 controller.
I'm a big PlayStation fan and I know they got some work to do to solve some issues and also to just make the system even better. The PS3 right now doesn't seem like anything to do backflips over and definitely not worth the overnight waits at storefronts like many morons did on launchday, but I do have a blu-ray player now and I'm all set for upcoming games that will be coming out for the PS3 ... I'll just keep enjoying some Rainbow Six and GoW on my 360 'til then.

Sony, make us proud! ::raises a glass of chocolate milk::

Mcklein
01-14-07, 07:21 PM
Can we change the background to any pics we have?? either from MS or taken off the browser??

If not this is my wish!

DaverJ
01-14-07, 11:03 PM
Can we change the background to any pics we have?? either from MS or taken off the browser??


Not yet... it's on the list.

eliocon
01-15-07, 08:40 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible for them to add 5.1 or 7.1 analog outs using the AV connector or is it limited to 2 channels? Would be nice to get those PCM tracks without having to upgrade my HDMIless receiver.

DaverJ
01-15-07, 09:47 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible for them to add 5.1 or 7.1 analog outs using the AV connector or is it limited to 2 channels? Would be nice to get those PCM tracks without having to upgrade my HDMIless receiver.

I would love the same thing. However, I'm not sure but I think it would require a Digital to Analog conversion for analog outs... which would be a hardware thing. Since they aren't selling any multi-channel cabling, I doubt it could be added. :(

If anyone knows anything concrete, please post!

Newyorker
01-15-07, 03:21 PM
Sony should make the PSP function as a remote control for the PS3 so we can change media tracks without having to turn on the TV. This would be a great remote play function.

radckh
01-15-07, 06:16 PM
I can't believe the list in the first post does not include upscaling of 720p games to 1080i!
This is suppossed to be a high def gaming system and 720p games are getting downconverted to 480p on TV's that only do 1080i - that ain't high def!!!

Rob

DaverJ
01-15-07, 06:33 PM
I can't believe the list in the first post does not include upscaling of 720p games to 1080i!



Rob...

Look again -- #1 on the list, and the initial reason for this list:

"-fix the game resolution downconvert for HDTVs without 720p input"

kidgenius
01-15-07, 07:08 PM
I have one.

When you have another OS installed and you boot into the game-OS, don't require the user to go into the settings to tell it to boot into the Other OS.

radckh
01-16-07, 05:36 PM
Rob...
Look again -- #1 on the list, and the initial reason for this list


Wow! Did I really miss that yesterday or did you add it after my post? ;)

Anyway, sorry about that and thanks for not blasting my obviously poor eyesight!

I sure as heck hope this is fixed in the big March release - if not MUCH sooner! I would love to see what COD3 and R:FOM look like in high def. I would also consider buying Madden '07 if it could be upconverted from 720p to 1080i for my 1080i TV.

Rob

wfujosh
01-16-07, 09:51 PM
Wow! Did I really miss that yesterday or did you add it after my post? ;)

Anyway, sorry about that and thanks for not blasting my obviously poor eyesight!

I sure as heck hope this is fixed in the big March release - if not MUCH sooner! I would love to see what COD3 and R:FOM look like in high def. I would also consider buying Madden '07 if it could be upconverted from 720p to 1080i for my 1080i TV.

Rob

Since when is 720p not "hi-def"? It is.

DaverJ
01-16-07, 11:31 PM
Since when is 720p not "hi-def"? It is.

Yes, it is. What radckh was referring to is his HDTV doesn't support 720p input... so on his set many games are down-rezed to 480p. That's why he can't play them in hi-def.

People can argue the point all they want, but simple logic dictates that the Playstation 3 should have been designed to output next gen games at 720p or 1080i. If that involves a scaling chip in hardware or whatever, it's a gross oversight for the many people with HDTVs that don't support 720p inputs. Most HD output devices can scale to 1080i... in fact, can anyone name an HD device other than the PS3 that doesn't scale to 1080i? :confused: (For the record, I don't have this problem... my TV accepts 720p input, but I can certainly understand the frustration for those it affects.)

freestyle
01-17-07, 05:48 PM
In case you haven't seen it, there is a great list over on the SCEA Playstation Forums:

Firmware Update Request Thread (http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psnetwork&thread.id=17359)

Many of the same, plus quite a few more good ones.

LynxFX
01-17-07, 06:14 PM
Great list. A lot of good stuff there that I never would have thought of. If Sony really takes charge they could create one killer system that even the most diehard of naysayers can't mock.

NO.FEAR
01-17-07, 09:01 PM
UPnP support. It would be nice for the PS3 WiFi to work with my PC network for 2 way file transfers including game saves and access to the USB and Mem card slots.

More firends list functionality. I would like to see where my friends are playing not just what game and I want the option to jump into their game room if I have the game or send out an invite to come join mine....I mean really in-game is where we met many of our online friends so of course we'll have the same games.

Stat recording of all my games in 1 location under my username.

SIXAXIS Persistaint key mapping. We should be able to set the function of each button for both the games and XMB.

DaverJ
01-17-07, 10:55 PM
UPnP support. It would be nice for the PS3 WiFi to work with my PC network for 2 way file transfers including game saves and access to the USB and Mem card slots.

More firends list functionality. I would like to see where my friends are playing not just what game and I want the option to jump into their game room if I have the game or send out an invite to come join mine....I mean really in-game is where we met many of our online friends so of course we'll have the same games.

Stat recording of all my games in 1 location under my username.

SIXAXIS Persistaint key mapping. We should be able to set the function of each button for both the games and XMB.

Good ideas NoFear... added. Some of those would be tricky following through in game software, but would be cool.

husky696
01-18-07, 06:47 AM
This may be the wrong forum and please point me in the right direction if necessary. I have been able to use 2 of my very old PS1 racing wheels on PS3 via adapters I bought at Radio Hack a number of years ago that convert the connections to USB. I'm not sure if these adapters are still sold. Any idea of when wireless racing wheels will come out? Controllers are not a good way to drive a car!

Brian27
01-19-07, 07:30 PM
I own a Denon 3806 and can not get 7.1 output from it through hdmi...There was others having this problem and one person who talked to Denon said that Denon told him that it was the PS3's problem...not Denon's...they told him it was a compatibility issue and that he should go to the PS3 forum and try to make a big stink about it to convince Sony to do a firmware update. I don't know if Denon is right :confused: but if so that would be a BIG TIME firmware upgrade for me and anyone else with Denon 3806 or 4306 and maybe even the 4806 and up...All I am sure about is the 3806 and 4306... So... if there is any other people with these receivers that care about getting 7.1 PCM DISCRETE channels...6.1 too for that matter... through their HDMI connection, maybe you should all post something on the PS3 forums also...and even contact Denon and see what the truth is if you can talk to someone who knows what they are talking about...The one customer service rep from Denon I talked too told me "for PCM signals to get 7.1 you have to push the 7ch stereo button" :eek: . Now... I know that ain't right.

Take care,
Brian

makan01
01-20-07, 01:04 AM
Let me start this by venting a bit. I am really p*&#ed off at Sony for rushing this thing out the door and marketing it as a multi-media machine without really thinking about what this term really means and the capabilities that can be accomplished with such a powerful motherboard. There is so much missing hence the list that Daver put together.

Just to think of the 360 being an inferior hardware yet packing so much in terms of muti-media capabilities is reason enough to abandon the PS3 altogether and get assimilated by the Borg.

But not me. I am a PS fan, and I believe in the versatility, upgradilbility and longevity of the system. This is why I purchased the PS3. However, market forces showed us that ingenuity and performance do not always win. I can only hope that Sony learned from its Betamax mistakes.

Enough with the venting. Back to the initial purpose of this thread. I would like to add to the list, which is quite comprehensive (thanks to Daver) , more music visualization capabilities (the more psychedelic the better), and a Random mode to play them all in no particular order (a la MS-WMP). They have done it with the latest PSP firmware and I believe once the pressure of the PS3 release is done we will be surprised by how much goodies we will get in this system.

The list is fine and dandy, but is there anyone on this forum that has connections to get it to Sony (as if they don't know already) and maybe get their feedback and a roadmap for these features? I believe as a community we are entitled to as much.

I guess I am the eternal optimist. In the meantime I am loving my BD movies, GTHD, and Resistance on my 50" NEC in 1080i, and I cannot wait for VF5.