I'm trying to decide if I want to get this. And while I'm not all about graphics, I can't stand how older systems look on my LCD HDTV. So, I'm hoping you guys can help me out with some pictures, and tell us how you have it plugged in. Thanks in advance.

Nobody would like to share...

the few people that have one are probably too busy playing it lol.

the few people that have one are probably too busy playing it lol.


Or to embarassed. :p

Or to embarassed. :p

Yeah, seriously. I'll give it a shot later tonight but I have a good idea my GameCube would produce better screenshots since it has a component connection.

Or to embarassed. :p

Some of these people may want to hold public office one day!

I am using Nintendo component cables.

Why do I get the feeling that no matter how bad all of you say the Wii graphics are, that I will love them when I buy my 60" xbr2 and use component cables?

FWIW I have been playing my GC/PS2/XBOX/360 on a 10+ year old 20" philips-magnavox tv w/ built in vhs player using composite cables.

Its just a photo but I dont see much wrong with the graphics. Looks great for Nintendo.

The graphics look nice. Nintendo never said it was the best thing ever. I have the 360 if I want HD games but I think the Wii will be just fine in the graphics department.

yeah, that looks a ton better than what I'm getting with the composite.

My component cables can't arrive quickly enough.

Does the Wii do 720p, or at least upconvert? Those screens look damn good by the way... What setting do you have it on?

Wii does 480p....

Those pics look pretty good. But I think you also have to consider that this is Zelda, and beyond that a Zelda title that has been in the works for about five years. If the graphics didn't look good there would be hell to pay. I'm not really expecting graphics to get much (if any) better) than what we're seeing in Twilight Princess.

Those pics look pretty good. But I think you also have to consider that this is Zelda, and beyond that a Zelda title that has been in the works for about five years. If the graphics didn't look good there would be hell to pay. I'm not really expecting graphics to get much (if any) better) than what we're seeing in Twilight Princess.

my thinking is the opposite of this.

TP was developed for the Gamecube. Late in its production cycle it was switched to the Wii. I would expect games that are exclusively developed for the Wii from the beginning will benefit from the increased abilities of the Wii over the Gamecube, even if those increases aren't eye popping.

As a Zelda fiend, I will be getting it for the Cube also, and plan on playing that first. I am eager to compare the graphics as I also feel that the Wii version is indicative of the LOWEST quality the REAL games will look like, and wouldn't be surprised to see similar graphic quality between the two.

Keep in mind that Zelda is really a GameCube port that uses the Wiimote instead of the regular GameCube controller. Also they made the Wii version a mirror image of the Gamecube, so that Link could be right handed for use of the wiimote. Hes still a lefty in the Cube version. But its still a wonderful looking game.

Here's my setup. I'm running a HPS-5053, calibrated, with composite.. After hearing everyone talk so badly, I was expecting the worse. It really looks quite good to me; don't get me wrong the component will remove the soft screen and sharped the colors a bit, but it certainly is playable and enjoyable.

No pictures, but I just hooked up the Wii tonight for the first time (92" 16:9 projector screen). The composite cable isn't as awful as I expected, but it's probably because it's plugged into a Denon receiver which is upconverting to a component output. That said, I'm still going to wait to start Zelda until my component cables get here.

I am using Nintendo component cables.

Those look great, I actually think the colors look quite good in those pics.

You're getting me all excited again for it dam it ;) :D

Those pics look pretty good. But I think you also have to consider that this is Zelda, and beyond that a Zelda title that has been in the works for about five years. If the graphics didn't look good there would be hell to pay. I'm not really expecting graphics to get much (if any) better) than what we're seeing in Twilight Princess.

Compare the graphics of Super Mario Brothers to those of Super Mario Brothers 3. Compare the graphics of Super Mario World to the graphics of Chrono Trigger. Or the graphics of GoldenEye to the graphics of Perfect Dark. Or the graphics from Luigi's Mansion to the graphics of Twilight Princess (GameCube). Games always get better looking through the console's life cycle. Games developed late in the Wii's life cycle will look much better than today's games.

And as has been stated earlier, Twilight Princess is indeed a GameCube port. But it's not the worst that games will look. The worst games will look is Wii Sports.

If PS2 with componet looked like **** on my TV is it likely that the Wii will look the same and i will be dissapointed ?

Compare the graphics of Super Mario Brothers to those of Super Mario Brothers 3. Compare the graphics of Super Mario World to the graphics of Chrono Trigger. Or the graphics of GoldenEye to the graphics of Perfect Dark. Or the graphics from Luigi's Mansion to the graphics of Twilight Princess (GameCube). Games always get better looking through the console's life cycle. Games developed late in the Wii's life cycle will look much better than today's games.

And as has been stated earlier, Twilight Princess is indeed a GameCube port. But it's not the worst that games will look. The worst games will look is Wii Sports.

This pattern is not the case with the Wii. In the examples you set forth developers were "new" to the hardware. The Wii is in Nintendo's own words a "GC+". Developers are already familiar with most of the hardware and features. The learning curve is therefore mostly over, not just beginning like when they were working on SMB. (Also important, is SMB3 used hardware in the cart for better effects... pretty sure we will not see that with Wii)

A look at Metroid Prime Echos and Zelda for Wii shows the MP has superior models AND textures. So I do not think Zelda is the end all for graphics, but I think it certainly shows if you want a wide open game you just cannot get the detail the hadrware can do with a more compact enviroment (MP3).

Frank, although I'm well aware the delight you bring to conversations here at AVs, I'll still bite.

You are aware that TP is designed as, and is graphically maintained as a pure GC title correct? It does not try to, in any way, use anything of the Wii other than the Wii-mote.

It is a port of the GC TP that has been in development forever. To use any of the launch titles as any sort of graphical benchmark for the Wii is just ridiculous. Most of these games were built on GC dev kits modified to use the wiimote.

I'm not saying the Wii will necessarily get much better, but the arguments now are pure conjecture and a waste of everyones time.

also I had taken a bunch of comparison shots for an Arstechnica thread... only to realize that I screwed up later and didn't switch the system to 480p in the menu for the component shots, but I'll still submit them here. When I get some free time I will retake the component shots and recreate the comparison images.

Menu and Mii
http://home.comcast.net/~logozzo/WiiComparison/Mii-small.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~logozzo/WiiComparison/Wii-channels-small.jpg

Wii Sports
http://home.comcast.net/~logozzo/WiiComparison/WiiSports-teams-small.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~logozzo/WiiComparison/WiiSports-pre-serve-small.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~logozzo/WiiComparison/WiiSports-serving-small.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~logozzo/WiiComparison/WiiSports-replay-small.jpg

Zelda
http://home.comcast.net/~logozzo/WiiComparison/Zelda-intro-small.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~logozzo/WiiComparison/Zelda-link-small.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~logozzo/WiiComparison/Zelda-fight-small.jpg

again note that for ALL of the component shots, the system was not set to 480p as it should have been.

If PS2 with componet looked like **** on my TV is it likely that the Wii will look the same and i will be dissapointed ?

probably, sounds like it is time to get a new tv. My PS2, cube and xbox look sweet with component.

If PS2 with componet looked like **** on my TV is it likely that the Wii will look the same and i will be dissapointed ?
The Wii will look better. More progressive scan games, true widescreen, no black bars.

The Wii will look better. More progressive scan games, true widescreen, no black bars.

There are reports that a couple of the games still underscan a little.

The Wii will look better. More progressive scan games, true widescreen, no black bars.

There are reports that a couple of the games still underscan a little. However, it is possible that these are 4x3 only games that people are playing stretched...

again note that for ALL of the component shots, the system was not set to 480p as it should have been.

then take them down until you can get some 480p component shots.. I was wondering why there was little difference until I read the last line of your post.

then take them down until you can get some 480p component shots.. I was wondering why there was little difference until I read the last line of your post.
I don't plan to, they are still a reference of what composite looks like. Also I do expect that most people have at least basic reading comprehension, or at the least will TRY to read a post.

You obviously had a case of "click-itis" and didn't bother to read a word which is why you only saw the end.

directly above the links was this:
also I had taken a bunch of comparison shots for an Arstechnica thread... only to realize that I screwed up later and didn't switch the system to 480p in the menu for the component shots, but I'll still submit them here. When I get some free time I will retake the component shots and recreate the comparison images.

You obviously had a case of "click-itis" and didn't bother to read a word which is why you only saw the end.

Almost like it's a screenshot thread eh?

I agree with those that are saying their expectations were so low for the composite signal that they were pleasantly surprised with how good it actually looked. My TV is converting the composite 480i signal to 1080p and it looks fine. If I had component or S-Video cables I would switch to those instantly, but I'm not waiting for my component cables to arrive to enjoy the system.

probably, sounds like it is time to get a new tv. My PS2, cube and xbox look sweet with component.

Its a Panasonic pt61lcx65

xbox 360 looks great so does HDTV

when i first got my tv ps2 looked like crap , with composite , componet helped

Madden still looked bad

God of war looked good tho, do you think Wii will be better ?

I have a Panny 9th Gen 50" and when I get my cables I'll post pictures.
Until then, it's what you would expect.
Here's my mini review:
Wii menus look great on my setup, slightly blurry.
Wii Sports looks pretty good converted by my TV.
Monkey Ball same as Wii Sports
Tony and Link look okay but they look like they want some 480p love.

He doesn't have to take them down. He did exactly what the post wanted. Post Wii pics on his HD set.

More cable comparison shots:

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162297/p-2.html

Zelda seems to gain the most benefit from component. Honestly though I do not think they cleaned up their composite connection at all. I was able to get my screens much less blurry with a little tuning. The extra color depth from component is not there of course but those composite shots should not be that blurry on most people's sets if they know how ot use their sets menu.

I have no real issues with resolution on the wii, with or without Zelda being used. The real issue I'm putting up with is contrast and screen dimensions. I cheat a bit going through a pretty good scaler with a number of filters in use but still, contrast is seriously lacking. I have NO issue with lowres 'jagginess'....Though of course it's obvious that I'm not running a high res at the media layer. I'm also playing on a 119" screen so I see a lot. Resolution isn't an issue here at least to my eyes. I think the elusive component cables will just make things even better.
-Trouble

great pics so far!

probably, sounds like it is time to get a new tv. My PS2, cube and xbox look sweet with component.

I have the Sony XBR2 LCD and still think the PS2 looks like crap on it.

more pictures please :)

my thinking is the opposite of this.

TP was developed for the Gamecube. Late in its production cycle it was switched to the Wii. I would expect games that are exclusively developed for the Wii from the beginning will benefit from the increased abilities of the Wii over the Gamecube, even if those increases aren't eye popping.

Second this - Zelda is nothing but essentially a GC port (well, sort of, as it was developed for GC). Graphics-wise it's certainly a GC game, not a Wii one.

more pictures please :)

As soon as I get home in time (ie before 9PM)... :cool:

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Iam useing a 37'' Polaroid HDTV and every thing looks real clear.I have it hooked up with the shielded AV connections.Excite Truck looks like iam playing on the computer,o wait its my Wii.Iam having alot of fun with this game.I think Wii Sports Boxing is hard.Beats the heck out me.Zelda is still in the box unopen and so is Super Monkey Ball.Walmart sent me two Zelda TP and Excite Truck,and i need to return them to the store.

I am using Nintendo component cables.

Sony XBR2... I can smell that TV a mile away with that Sony glow on the bottom and the glass frame.

Pics looks awesome btw. Still waiting on my component cables so I can play my Wii in 480p on my XBR2.

Well, here's Zelda on my Panasonic TH-50PX60U with component cables:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7786/img8989cxi8.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img8989cxi8.jpg)

Here's mine on a Sony 60" Grand Vega 3 TV using component cables:

http://s1974.home.comcast.net/wii_dots2.JPG

What's that again about how amazingly reliable Nintendo products are? Maybe mine was made by Microsoft :(

The pictures were taken with a 1 mega pixle camera.

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Here's my setup. I'm running a HPS-5053, calibrated, with composite.. After hearing everyone talk so badly, I was expecting the worse. It really looks quite good to me; don't get me wrong the component will remove the soft screen and sharped the colors a bit, but it certainly is playable and enjoyable.
Do you use GAMEMODE? I have the same TV but mine looks nothing like yours with component cables.

I feel like my wii games look better on my Sony 40V2500 than HD shows do. That is pretty sad though, so i dont know if it's my settings or just somehow motion is handled better in 480P than 1080i or what.,

bump... more pics, I still haven't seen it in person because all the demos are turned off at the stores I've been to.

Here is my new setup:

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/840/img0589zz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9868/img0607ul8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4541/img0633hw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nice to see someone else using that CordMate conduit.

I felt like a slacker for using it, but my family room is all exterior walls, which on the coast of Florida means concrete block. I would have had to punch holes into said block to run my cables in the wall and put an outlet behind the set.

Looks good, especially when painted to match the walls. I'm going to have to try side lighting like you've got - the shadows from the conduit are all you notice now, and it looks like your lighting alleviates most of that.

Here's mine:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/353362199_aeb4fc5801_o.jpg

Looks much better then I thought it would. I will probably pick one up just for Mario Galaxy.

The pictures above make it look better than it actually looks (because compressing your whole TV down to a 3" patch on your monitor is going to eliminate all the jaggies and blurriness, obviously). I tried to take a screenshot that simulates what you actually see on screen.

I realize that this is going to be dependent on the monitor you're using, but the image below when viewed at full-size is the same size on my 21" 1600x1200 monitor from ~2' away as the image on my 61" 1080p TV from ~9' away. In other words, what I see on this image is as close as I can make it to what I see on the TV. (The Wii is hooked up via component cable. I didn't do any processing in Photoshop, other than converting it from a RAW image and saving it as a high-quality JPEG.)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1884/wiilegsje2.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wiilegsje2.jpg)

I think it looks pretty decent in the thumbnail, but terrible at actual size. (And I promise this isn't my camera making it look bad; it's how the Wii actually looks.)

Edit: For reference/calibration purposes, here's a picture of Crackdown on the 360, taken in basically the same way. (I took Crackdown because it has a cel-shaded style that's more comparable to Wii Sports than something more realistic, like Gears of War. Also, because it was in the drive.)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1064/crackdownvl1.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crackdownvl1.jpg)

You can really see the differences when looking at the diagonal lines on the Crackdown agent's outfit compared to the diagonals on the Wii pitcher's pants, and the lady in the background in Crackdown compared to the pitcher in the background on the Wii.

Below connected to my Olevia 747i via component.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/wheelzntoys/IMG_1845.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/wheelzntoys/IMG_1844.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/wheelzntoys/IMG_1843.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/9828/dscf0130cf7.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0130cf7.jpg)

I have to get better cables this one is the regular cable picture is bad. :(

Wii Sports and COD3 on my Sammy LNS-5296D

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/410118844_15642a387a.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/410116638_649fd31a0a.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/410117328_703e928573_b.jpg