View Full Version : "Scrubs" returns to NBC Nov. 30th - no longer in HD.
AccidenT 11-21-06, 12:28 PM It looks like the HD for last season's finale (which I missed because my season pass was for the SD channel and I never expected an HD episode) wasn't just a one-time thing. The Nov. 30th season premiere shows up in my HR10-250's guide with the HDTV tag. Too bad it's probably the last season. :(
Looking forward to it. With Earl, The Office and now Scrubs, NBC has re-captured Thursday in my book.
barth2k 11-21-06, 01:19 PM argghh, they couldn't do this while they had heather graham?
Wow...I was not expecting this! I have been waiting to see Scrubs in HD for a while now. Glad they finally made the move!
argghh, they couldn't do this while they had heather graham?
And Tara Reid.
And the first 2 seasons when blonde doctor was half nekkid a lot of the time.
eric.exe 11-21-06, 07:51 PM Sweet. Only show I can stand on primetime.
Maybe I'll watch it for the first time.
scolumbo 11-22-06, 09:59 AM IIRC, we will get to see Elizabeth Banks in the first couple of episodes this season.
Glad to see it will be in HD -- love the show!
am i the only one who thinks scrubs has sucked big time for at least the last season?
CPanther95 11-22-06, 04:18 PM No, there's probably 2 or 3 other people that agree with you. ;)
mx6bfast 11-22-06, 05:47 PM I wish they didn't move it to Thursdays, I'm already tivoing 2 other shows at 8.
longfellowfan 11-22-06, 06:31 PM I wish they didn't move it to Thursdays, I'm already tivoing 2 other shows at 8.
Me to
Savageone79 11-22-06, 09:25 PM I think last season was as good as it ever was. Still one of the best shows on tv great to have it in HD. WHy the talk of it being the last season has there been something heard about that? I hadn't heard that myself.
I think last season was as good as it ever was. Still one of the best shows on tv great to have it in HD. WHy the talk of it being the last season has there been something heard about that? I hadn't heard that myself.
Zach Braff (JD) is in the last year of his contract and he says this is his last year. Besides, Scrubs hasn't exactly gotten stellar ratings for NBC.
Thank God! It's about time.
dogmanky 11-23-06, 10:45 AM Whether it's the last season or not, I'm excited about it being in HD and plan to watch every episode. The only show I think that is better on Television is The Office.
Woot! :p
cherry ghost 11-27-06, 07:44 PM From what I've heard, this will not be in HD.
Amnesia 11-27-06, 08:01 PM The schedule on NBC.com (http://www.nbc.com/Schedule/) says it will not be in HD...
mx6bfast 11-27-06, 08:02 PM From what I've heard, this will not be in HD.
I wonder why not? Was HD not in their budget this year?
dohcmark8 11-29-06, 10:24 PM Yup TitanTV says no HD...
Damn you NBC!
the show is shot on 16 mm film. i don't think it'd exactly look much better in hd.
ENDContra 11-30-06, 04:58 AM TWC on screen guide indicates HD, for what thats worth.
Cant imagine they did last seasons finale as a one-time thing either....that seems pretty pointless.
rockandchelle 11-30-06, 09:02 AM Zap2It.com says that it will be in HD. I have learned not to trust TitanTV, because they are always wrong when it comes to my area. So, I guess we shall see.
Darn! I have it set to record off of the SD channel and won't be home in time to change it. Oh well, maybe next week....
icemannyr 11-30-06, 09:03 PM Not HD here and I am getting the network feed cause the audio is DD 5.1.
It's also not listed as being in HD on the NBC.com schedule.
Mike4HDTV 11-30-06, 09:06 PM No HD in Miami. This sucks. I can't believe NBC wouldn't produce this show in HD.
icemannyr 11-30-06, 09:09 PM My only guess is these episodes are from 2005 and never aired, back then the production of the show was in SD.
If they produce news episodes in 2006-07 they might be in HD.
ncxcstud 11-30-06, 09:16 PM It's a good thing this show is good enough that it doesn't 'need' to be in HD...but, I think it's really crappy that at this point (and to my knowledge) it's the only primetime comedy, on any of the 4 major networks that isn't in HD...and possibly one of the ONLY shows period (sans reality shows) that isn't in HD...come on NBC...
Savageone79 11-30-06, 09:22 PM Something wierd must be up either it was a previously done episode or something. Why would they do the finale last season in hd but not any other ep?
My only guess is these episodes are from 2005 and never aired, back then the production of the show was in SD.
If they produce news episodes in 2006-07 they might be in HD.
possible, but unlikely because Dr. Cox's hair is long again and the finale with the female pregnant doctor was in HD, so it would only make sense to film this one at the same time
icemannyr 11-30-06, 09:38 PM hum :P
Amnesia 11-30-06, 11:50 PM My only guess is these episodes are from 2005 and never aired, back then the production of the show was in SD.I thought last year's season finale was in HD...
AtogMuncher 11-30-06, 11:53 PM Hmmm, I was all set to check out Scrubs for the first time since the first season before I had HDTV. Too bad. Anyway, the talk about last seasons finale being in HD made me check something out. If the finale was in HD it seems like tonights episode would have been too if they made a production change since epguides.com lists it as a second part of that episode so it would have been produced after the finale (at least in theory):
(6- 1 30 Nov 06 My Mirror Image (2))
This site is pretty accurate with its information,so the previous theory about it being old episodes probably doesn't fit. At this point I would think it is more likely the network either screwed this up (should have been in HD) or is refusing to pay for HD.
Anyone who saw the finale, was it truely HD or just a fake HD like they did with Frasier Season 10 (cropped SD but since it was on film they could make an HD transfer)?
dohcmark8 12-01-06, 12:12 AM That sucked. They screwed up ER.. it was in SD... probably because Scrubs was in SD and someone forgot to flip the damn switch or something.
Ok people....
This isn't a leftover episode from last season.
Its the first of the new production season.
And I don't seem to remember this whole "HD" thing for the season finalie from last year (the episode was 4:3, not 16:9), other thant the "NBC in HD" graphic they had on the bottom of the screen... which may have been a mistake.....
Marcus Carr 12-01-06, 12:15 AM That sucked. They screwed up ER.. it was in SD... probably because Scrubs was in SD and someone forgot to flip the damn switch or something.
Strange, because 30 Rock was in HD after Scrubs.
That sucked. They screwed up ER.. it was in SD... probably because Scrubs was in SD and someone forgot to flip the damn switch or something.
Local affiliate problem.
TakeFlight 12-01-06, 12:21 AM And I don't seem to remember this whole "HD" thing for the season finalie from last year (the episode was 4:3, not 16:9), other thant the "NBC in HD" graphic they had on the bottom of the screen... which may have been a mistake.....
Last season's finale was most definitely 16:9.
Last season's finale was most definitely 16:9.
Ah... 2 episodes aired that night... I remember the HD graphic fakeout during the first episode...
I forgot to mention before... NBC does not produce Scrubs.... (that's why it treats it like crap with scheduling)
But this should answer all questions:
As an experiment, the Season 5 finale episode "My Transition" (#5.24) was finished and aired in High Definition. Scrubs is the first network show to their on-line edit in Final Cut Pro SD, and with this episode becomes the first network show to HD on-line on Final Cut Pro. However the show continues to be produced in Standard Definition. According to the producer, Randall Winston: "After a lot of teasing, yes, the HD was an experiment, for everyone really. We will not be doing any more HD - there is a cost that no one is interested in covering and there is debate, not among us here at the show, about how the quality stands up. I don't think that we can get the look that the show is designed around [by using] tape."
AtogMuncher 12-01-06, 01:08 AM Thanks NBC or whoever didn't want to pony up the money for HD production, I didn't need to watch another sitcom on Thursday anyways :) (hoping 30 Rock can find an audience, since I have been enjoying that show and it is in HD)
mx6bfast 12-01-06, 07:34 AM As an experiment, the Season 5 finale episode "My Transition" (#5.24) was finished and aired in High Definition. Scrubs is the first network show to their on-line edit in Final Cut Pro SD, and with this episode becomes the first network show to HD on-line on Final Cut Pro. However the show continues to be produced in Standard Definition. According to the producer, Randall Winston: "After a lot of teasing, yes, the HD was an experiment, for everyone really. We will not be doing any more HD - there is a cost that no one is interested in covering and there is debate, not among us here at the show, about how the quality stands up. I don't think that we can get the look that the show is designed around [by using] tape."
What look is that, cheap? I think they got it.
tonybradley 12-01-06, 08:22 AM I love the show, but without the HD experience, I spend my viewing time elsewhere. They need to get on board or jump ship.
Sturmie 12-01-06, 08:38 AM to me, good tv is good tv...just because it isn't HD all the time now following last year's finale, doesn't mean i'm gonna stop watching. Two and a Half Men is in HD, but i would never waste 22 mins of my life on that show. i've had HD for a few years now and, yeah, in the beginning, i would watch stuff in HD just because it looked so good. nowadays, i look more for the quality of the programming itself.
don't get me wrong, if a show is in HD i will give it more of a chance...i'm looking at you Jericho ;).
sturmie
Berk,
Thanks for the info. That explains it.
Speaking of Dr. Cox's hair, very strange. Although I don't know anything about anything, I hope Johnny C. doesn't have a health problem of some kind.
-Reagan
AccidenT 12-01-06, 09:55 AM <Borat>NOT!</Borat>
Sorry for the misleading thread title, everyone. I assumed that once the production went HD for last seasons finale that it wouldn't go back to SD. Once I saw the guide data with the HD flag, I thought I had been proven right.
Oh well, an SD episode of Scrubs is still better than most things on TV these days.
Ericglo 12-01-06, 10:35 AM What look is that, cheap? I think they got it.
LOL, yeah I think you are right.:)
I will still watch it, because it is a great show even if it is in SD.
The problem with their decision to "expirement" with HD for last season's finale, is now they have created a higher expectation (HD). As all of us know, once you have a HDTV and view HD programming, it's hard to go back to SD. A reasonable question is - What was the purpose of the "HD expriement" if they never intended to go HD for future episodes?
(From Marc Berman’s Friday, Dec. 1, 2006, Programming Insider blog at Mediaweek.com )
.. ABC led the 9 p.m. hour with ease courtesy of a hefty 24.27 million viewers and a 9.6/23 among adults 18-49 for Grey’s Anatomy. Second was a repeat of CBS’ CSI at a still solid 15.88 million viewers and a 5.0/12 among adults 18-49. In season-premiere news, NBC’s veteran Scrubs returned with a lackluster (and distant third-place) 8.45 million viewers and a 3.9/ 9 among adults 18-49. Comparably, that trailed lead-in The Office by 1.25 million viewers and 15 percent among adults 18-49. Recently relocated 30 Rock took a major tumble at 9:30 p.m., meanwhile, with just 6.56 million viewers and a 3.0/ 7 among adults 18-49. Comparably, that trailed lead-in Scrubs by 1.89 million viewers and 23 percent in the demo. Hopefully, Tina Fey kept her ties to Saturday Night Live open.….”
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/15510322
CPanther95 12-01-06, 02:21 PM Title edited.
Only a matter of time until this thread gets banished to the non-HDTV forum. Leaving it for now so everybody expecting it in HD gets a chance to see this thread.
mx6bfast 12-01-06, 02:54 PM Is this kinda like "Once you go black...."
:)
archiguy 12-01-06, 02:56 PM Title edited.
Only a matter of time until this thread gets banished to the non-HDTV forum. Leaving it for now so everybody expecting it in HD gets a chance to see this thread.
"Banished" is the right word. Have you noticed how little activity the BSG thread gets since it was exiled to the hinterlands? :( (pssst....we need to smuggle it back in; maybe nobody who would object will notice. :p )
DrCrawn 12-01-06, 03:09 PM Ah the good ole days...what a shame NBC.
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7931/scrubsmay16002tt9.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scrubsmay16002tt9.jpg)
Is this kinda like "Once you go black...."
:)
You go deaf...
Seriously though after seeing it HD I just cant get into it in SD.
Larry Hutchinson 12-01-06, 04:07 PM I love the show, but without the HD experience, I spend my viewing time elsewhere. They need to get on board or jump ship.
Ditto.
I TiVoed last season but with all the HD progrmming, never got around to watching any and finally just dumped all. Never watched a single episode.
I will now cancel the season pass.
MrHicks 12-01-06, 04:55 PM I find myself becoming more and more an HD snob and will probably turn up my nose at Scrubs in SD now....
even though I swore I'd never be a HD snob.
Ah the good ole days...what a shame NBC.
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7931/scrubsmay16002tt9.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scrubsmay16002tt9.jpg)
I wouldn't put this all on NBC. "Scrubs" is from Touchstone studios and was originally going to be on ABC until they passed on it. Since Universal and Disney don't play along nicely that's probably why there's been so many issues with this great show.
Scott Gammans 12-01-06, 09:28 PM :rolleyes: at all the HDTV snobs. You're missing a lot of great television if all that you'll watch is high definition broadcasts. Battlestar Galactica Nip/Tuck The Shield Rescue Me Scrubs and so on...Was I disappointed that Scrubs went back to standard definition? Sure. Will I stop watching it because it's back to its original 4:3 SD presentation--the same presentation it's had for over 99% of its run? Of course not.
AtogMuncher 12-01-06, 09:35 PM Scott,
Battlestar Galactica should not be on your list, us HD snobs can wait until UHD shows it :)
I'd rather watch Cheers on a 13" black and white TV than garbage in perfect HD.
AnthonyB 12-02-06, 12:33 AM :rolleyes: at all the HDTV snobs.
Snobs? Well.. I could be viewing my tv at hd with better programming. The only reason I stuck to NBC thurs. night is cause I wanted to see scrubs.
Have you ever seen SD on a 65" monitor? It really sucks.
sneals2000 12-02-06, 10:56 AM Presumably the comments from the producers can be translated as :
We normally shoot 16mm and post-produce at SD - and like the "look" of the show that this process gives us.
We shot an episode in HD - and used HD video (aka "tape") rather than film for this episode, and weren't as happy with the "look" that this gave us.
As HD was also more expensive, and we weren't as happy with the look, and as there is no more money for going HD, we've stuck with SD?
I guess they didn't shoot the HD episode on 16mm and TK it to HD Video, but instead used HD video cameras (presumably 24p) to shoot to HD tape directly.
This can give a very different look to 16mm - and the producers may have felt this altered the show look too much. (Though with good grading and post production they could have probably come close to matching the 16mm look they previously had - though at a price)
Larry Hutchinson 12-02-06, 12:52 PM Snobs? Well.. I could be viewing my tv at hd with better programming. The only reason I stuck to NBC thurs. night is cause I wanted to see scrubs.
Have you ever seen SD on a 65" monitor? It really sucks.
Not only that but for many of us with displays that we wish to protect from burn-in, it is in stretch-o-vision.
Just plain wide-screen standard def would be an improvement.
And there is way more quality HDTV programming out there than I have the time to watch. So it is not an issue of watching crap in HD vs quality in SD.
Ericglo 12-02-06, 02:34 PM Have you ever seen SD on a 65" monitor? It really sucks.
Maybe you need a better monitor or system. While it isn't as good as HD, it is certainly watchable on my CRT FP.
Scrubs is the funniest show on TV. Annoying that it isn't going to be in HD, but I can cope with my TV shrinking to 76" for the half hour. Actually about 20 minutes. Gives me the option to put it on an SD DVR, saving space if necessary on the HD one.
Isn't this the last year, anyway?
pedrojunkie 12-03-06, 12:31 AM I was talking to somebody who was involved with the production of Scrubs in some capacity or another. He said that the reason the show never went HD was because they could never get comfortable enough ratings to justify the cost of the upgrade, they really wanted to and the production team was pushing for it, but the exectutives couldn't justify the cost as they felt they were on the verge of getting cancelled at any time.
Also they said when Scrubs first started they were a longshot program, laughtrackless, singlecamera, continuing plot comedies tend to have a short lifespan and the rating have been sparse to reinforce that. However it has developed a cult following, much like Arrested Development etc. They kept costs down by starting out SD and it probrably bought them some leeway for the network to deal with the ratings dissapointments. It also gave them the money to drop on the guest stars... HD wasn't required by NBC for comedies back when Scrubs first went on the air
tonybradley 12-03-06, 02:37 PM :rolleyes: at all the HDTV snobs. You're missing a lot of great television if all that you'll watch is high definition broadcasts. Battlestar Galactica Nip/Tuck The Shield Rescue Me Scrubs and so on...Was I disappointed that Scrubs went back to standard definition? Sure. Will I stop watching it because it's back to its original 4:3 SD presentation--the same presentation it's had for over 99% of its run? Of course not.
I have a life and can't watch EVERY show on TV. I have plenty I watch that I love, and they are in HD, so I'm set. Those not in HD don't get a viewing from me (not counting Simpsons)
mikepinkerton 12-03-06, 04:17 PM Not only that but for many of us with displays that we wish to protect from burn-in, it is in stretch-o-vision.
Properly set up your TV (notably the contrast) and you will have no problem watching in 4x3. Hollywood waifs work hard for their skinny figures, don't make them fat!!!!! :D
-Mike
Those not in HD don't get a viewing from me (not counting Simpsons)
Not to pick a fight but if you can watch Simpsons (which has sadly gone downhill), why wouldnt you watch the funniest show on TV? Because Zach Braff isn't drawn and animated?
For me, this show looks fantastic on the Digital Feed in SD. When I watched the one episode shot in HD, i laughed because I didn't see much of an improvement in the picture other then the fact it was not widescreen. One of the few shows I can say that about..
Scrubs a Near Lock for Next Fall
By Ben Grossman Broadcasting & Cable 1/15/2007
Thursday-night comedy “Scrubs” will be back for a seventh season on either NBC or ABC, according to creator Bill Lawrence.
With the Touchstone Television-produced show now in syndication, Lawrence says, should NBC pass on bringing the show back, it will find a home at Touchstone’s corporate cousin, ABC. "Since every produced episode makes a ton of money for Touchstone," Lawrence says, "they told us not to write a finale for this year."
The show has a strong chance of returning to NBC next year, he adds. "We’ve essentially been told that NBC is really happy with how we are doing. I would say it’s better than a coin flip we are back on NBC."
Airing at 9 p.m. between The Office and rookie 30 Rock, Scrubs is averaging a solid 3.5 rating/9 share in the adult 18-49 demo as part of a Thursday-night comedy block that is cherished by NBC President Kevin Reilly. At a median age of 36.1, it is the network’s youngest-skewing primetime series.
"NBC isn’t the same juggernaut anymore," Lawrence says, "but it still feels cool to be on Thursdays."
But he understands that there is less financial motivation for NBC to keep the Touchstone-produced show on the network. "The show is a dinosaur, on one network and completely owned by another," he acknowledges.
And Touchstone continues to show faith in the show. The studio greenlighted a Jan. 18 musical episode at double the cost of a typical installment.
Lawrence also says that the show would not continue without star Zach Braff, but he "feels pretty good" that Braff is on board for a seventh and final season.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleID=CA6407312
AccidenT 01-15-07, 11:56 AM That's great news - let's hope it all pans out.
mx6bfast 01-15-07, 01:30 PM I thought the skit at the beginning where Sarah screamd out "Stop finishing my awesome jokes" was one of the funniest things I've seen on Scrubs in quite a long time. Love the show.
Can we hope the directors get with the program and go HD? Will moving to ABC help push it to HD?
I thought the skit at the beginning where Sarah screamd out "Stop finishing my awesome jokes" was one of the funniest things I've seen on Scrubs in quite a long time. Love the show.
Can we hope the directors get with the program and go HD? Will moving to ABC help push it to HD?
You can read earlier in this thread that the producers/directors expiremented with HD for one episode, but did not like the result. So it looks highly unlikely this show goes to HD. Still, great news about a 7th season.
ENDContra 01-16-07, 12:05 AM The show is shot on film, correct? Couldnt it be transferred in HD, even if still in the 4:3 aspect ratio?
the producers/directors expiremented with HD for one episode, but did not like the result
How could they not like the result? Are they editing the show on a 20" B/W TV?
Ericglo 01-16-07, 10:11 PM This made my night. I can't wait for a seventh season.
Mike4HDTV 01-18-07, 10:01 PM Good episode of Scrubs tonight. The musical episode was very entertaining.
TyrantII 01-18-07, 11:08 PM hmmm, so can i start buying the dvd sets right?
since post production was in SD, the dvd's are about as good as they're gonna get?
Sturmie 01-19-07, 09:19 AM the musical was one of the best eps of Scrubs of all time...fantastic...and i'm not even really a fan of "musicals" :).
Steve Scherrer 01-19-07, 09:41 AM The song "guy love" had me rolling on the floor.
"The only guy who's been inside me..."
"Whoa, whoa--he had appendicitis!"
Great stuff...
i put it as the 3rd best ever
The best episode ever was Season 1, My Old Women (the episode where JD comes to terms with death)
2nd Best was My Screwup (the Dr. Cox's brother's death episode)
This I put as 3rd, although the Wizard of OZ episode was also amazing.
Sturmie 01-19-07, 12:47 PM 2nd Best was My Screwup (the Dr. Cox's brother's death episode)
yeah...i'd put My Screwup as my #1.
CPanther95 01-19-07, 01:07 PM They got special permission to double the budget in order to make the musical episode.
2nd Best was My Screwup (the Dr. Cox's brother's death episode)
He was Jordan's brother...
randy5554 05-11-07, 12:54 PM I'll bump this thread because Scrubs has been pretty good the last few weeks.
AnthonyB 05-11-07, 01:24 PM The wiki on Scrubs said it would probably not return next year, any truth to that?
ToddUGA 05-11-07, 02:30 PM The wiki on Scrubs said it would probably not return next year, any truth to that?
Quite possibly. However, I've read that if NBC cancels it then ABC will pick it up. I'll see if I can find the link.
AnthonyB 05-11-07, 02:32 PM It is released by Buena Vista, so I should see no reason why they wouldn't.
jwebb1970 05-11-07, 02:32 PM The wiki on Scrubs said it would probably not return next year, any truth to that?
The current spin on SCRUBS is that if NBC decides to not re-up for another season, the show will most likely jump to ABC. SCRUBS is owned by Touchstone, part of the Buena Vista/Disney/ABC conglom. It's been reported that ABC is interested in taking on SCRUBS (for at least a final season) if NBC passes. Would be a good move for them, since they are pretty dry in terms of decent sitcoms.
Another bit of info that backs this up is that Touchstone re-upped Zach Braff for another season (he was considering leaving after this one, which would have effectively killed the show) at a substantial pay increase. Braff is now one of the highest paid actors on TV. Doubt this would have happened if Sacred Heart was closing it's doors this season.
Would be nice if an ABC jump would include a bump into HD-land. But I'd bet that the Braff pay raise would kill that posibility, budget-wise.
We'll have a definitive answer next week, when the net's upfronts are revealed.
mx6bfast 05-11-07, 04:27 PM The current spin on SCRUBS is that if NBC decides to not re-up for another season, the show will most likely jump to ABC. SCRUBS is owned by Touchstone, part of the Buena Vista/Disney/ABC conglom. It's been reported that ABC is interested in taking on SCRUBS (for at least a final season) if NBC passes. Would be a good move for them, since they are pretty dry in terms of decent sitcoms.
Another bit of info that backs this up is that Touchstone re-upped Zach Braff for another season (he was considering leaving after this one, which would have effectively killed the show) at a substantial pay increase. Braff is now one of the highest paid actors on TV. Doubt this would have happened if Sacred Heart was closing it's doors this season.
Would be nice if an ABC jump would include a bump into HD-land. But I'd bet that the Braff pay raise would kill that posibility, budget-wise.
We'll have a definitive answer next week, when the net's upfronts are revealed.
I've read a few things as well that ABC was going to grab Scrubs if NBC didn't renew it.
Scrubs tried HD during the season finale last season, but the director (I think) didn't like the look so he decided to go back to SD.
NBC's Scrubs: renewed for 18 episodes
Thursday 9:30-10pm
mx6bfast 05-14-07, 02:15 PM NBC's Scrubs: renewed for 18 episodes
Thursday 9:30-10pm
Man I was hoping it would move to ABC because I have conflicts during that time on Thursdays. Thankfully "other means" are available.
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