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ghudson666

01-20-08, 02:47 AM

Haven't read all the threads, but my net gear WGT624 works great with the PS3. Set WMP 11 to share and it worked perfectly.:) Even streamed HD in mpeg2 pretty well. I am very impressed with the PS3...Looks and works great with my new kuro 5010!!
You are lucky. I just ventured into the wireless streaming today but I am having the stuttering problem. I am using Windows XP2 home edition PC and using Windows Media 11. I am using Comcast broadband with a Linksys WRT54G wireless G broadband router and Linksys WMP54G wireless G adapter on the PC. Router is upstairs, computer and PS3 are downstairs. I do not have any lag issues when I play online games with my PS3. Streaming MP3s works great.

For my testing, I have renamed my VOB extensions to MPG [I ripped a DVD using DVD Decrypter then used DVD Shrink so that I could make a backup copy of the DVD so I have 5 VTS_01_5.MPG files]. But when I stream the movie I ripped to my PS3; the wireless streaming appears to have a lag for the movie [audio & video] is stuttering. The video quality looks great, it just has a slight pause [continuously] every couple of seconds.

I have been searching this forum and googling all night but I have not found the fix I need. I am giving up for now. Time to go to bed. Argh!

D96

01-20-08, 10:08 AM

For those having trouble, some things people over look sometimes are as simple as a firmware upgrade and making sure the 'auto channel' option is checked off. I had 6+ routers in my area on the same channel, using the auto channel option and my wireless is 97-100% all the time on the PS3, with no issues whatsoever. Great dl, ul rates and pings around 50-67 ms...can't complain at all.

xravexboix

01-20-08, 01:40 PM

D-Link DIR-655 keeps a solid connection

wonton1017

01-21-08, 11:11 PM

Im using D-Link DI-624 and it has less than 50% signal and terrible speed.

13mb guitar hero III patch took more than 25 minutes.

Internet is excellent through wire on my PC though, never tried it with my PS3.
15mb/s download, 1mb/s upload.

mdv

01-23-08, 04:21 PM

You can add Netgear FWG114P to the list of wireless routers that work fine.

Mark

Bobington

01-23-08, 05:06 PM

I think this thread is misleading. Most of the issues are due to poorly configured networks or modems.

dogdoctor

01-23-08, 05:56 PM

I think this thread is misleading. Most of the issues are due to poorly configured networks or modems.You are in part correct, but a little late to the party. At the very begining (ie. launch) there were quite a few routers that wouldn't play nice unless you knew or discovered the secret fix (not even Sony could make head or tails out of the original issues). Note there still are routers from day one that people couLdn't get to work. The benefit to this thread is that people can log in, see if a particular router has been working, and if they themselves have problems, then they know it's not a router issue but a set up issue. As an added bonus it limits the number of question threads about "is this router good?".

Bobington

01-23-08, 07:11 PM

You are in part correct, but a little late to the party. At the very begining (ie. launch) there were quite a few routers that wouldn't play nice unless you knew or discovered the secret fix (not even Sony could make head or tails out of the original issues). Note there still are routers from day one that people couLdn't get to work. The benefit to this thread is that people can log in, see if a particular router has been working, and if they themselves have problems, then they know it's not a router issue but a set up issue. As an added bonus it limits the number of question threads about "is this router good?".

I'm just saying they could add something to the Original post to clarify.

oneils

01-24-08, 02:26 PM

I'm using a draft-n router and it works great. I've only used it to share media with the PS3 so far though. Haven't gone online to play a game yet.

8IronBob

01-26-08, 07:20 PM

Just today, I picked up an 802.11n router from BB, hoping that the PS3 would accept the N signal. Anyone know if there's any firmware updates for the PS3 that will allow for the new Wifi tech?

tingham

01-27-08, 11:49 AM

Just today, I picked up an 802.11n router from BB, hoping that the PS3 would accept the N signal. Anyone know if there's any firmware updates for the PS3 that will allow for the new Wifi tech?

No..and there never will be..unless they install the "n" hardware in future generations of the playstation...which I'm sure will happen..someday?

Frank Lucas

01-30-08, 06:10 PM

Hi all,
I am trying to connect my ps3 to internet but having problems. Heres my situation.

- My room and the main computer is several rooms away, its a council flat with kitchen and other rooms in between. Dunno how the distanc to be honest, obviously several feet away.

- I currently have a netgear WG602 v 4 router (the standard g class signal lowest one) with only one ethernet output, which I am willing to upgrade dependant on advice given.

- Currently I can get 10% signal, 30% signal at best. I also pick up other weak signals from elsewhere too.

What should I do? buy a stronger router? I am not sure how to go about this and get effective internet for my distant ps3. Any help appreciated. Not sure if I can make the signal stronger on the router I am currently using. Invest in a new one or just buy a really long wire? Help will be greatly appreciated, I have bbeen struggling with this for a month to no avail.

Bobington

01-30-08, 07:14 PM

Depends on what kind of walls.

Frank Lucas

01-30-08, 07:27 PM

Fairly thick concrete/brick walls.

vixinca

02-14-08, 04:09 AM

I have been tooling on this issue of disconnects for a few weeks with a Linksys WRT54G ver.2 with hyperwrt firmware since I got my PS3 in January. Prior to the introduction of the PS3 into my network, I regularly connected with 2 laptops(wireless), 3 desktops(wired), 2 slingboxes(wired), 1 Stiletto 2(wireless), and 1 PDA(wireless) device on a regular basis. After PS3, I lost all my wireless connection everytime the PS3 was powered. Nothing I did (wired or wireless) prevented my disconnects from my wireless (wired remained connected). Frustration got the better of me, because I use my laptop often. I ended up getting a new router (Linksys WRT310N) just to see if I can at least stay connected when the PS3 is connected to my router (wired). I got that far, so I switched to (PS3) wireless for grins. I now have 2 laptops wireless with the PS3 wireless. I am very happy, now. This really shouldn't be this painful to connect and stay connected when you introduce a new wireless device into your network. Nonetheless, here are my settings:

Router: Linksys WRT310N original firmware, manual wireless
Security: WPA2-Personal
Wireless: SSID broadcast disabled
uPNP: disabled
DMZ: PS3

PS3: Static IP

Honestly, I sympathize with all who has or is still going through this issue. I didn't realize this was something I had to deal with until I bought the PS3 and after I read this thread. Thanks AVS and dogdoctor (and all the contributors) for hosting and posting.

patrickpiteo

02-14-08, 02:58 PM

D-Link DIR-655 keeps a solid connection
Mine worked then stopped. Are you using port fowarding / or DMZ?

sublime90

02-20-08, 12:50 AM

May as well add the Linksys WRT350N - Wireless-N Gigabit Router with Storage Link

It works great. No hitches or glitches yet. The PS3 is upstairs in the theater. the Router is downstairs in my office. Signal is good.

Im using PSK-personal encryption. The PS3 had no issues using this algorythm.

Im hoping i can use the LInksys' Storage Link and Media Adapter to stream media to the PS3. I have not yet had the time to try this. Has anyone tried?

Sub

danielwd

02-22-08, 12:54 AM

I bought a LINKSYS WRT 546 Wireless Router a couple of days ago in order to play PS3 online. It worked well until today.

While playing FIFA online, I got an error and I guess I got booted offline. I think I think I lost my internet service for a few minutes, then it came back.

When I tried to go back and play online the FIFA told me I was not connected and I needed to go back and check my settings.

After doing this, I keep timing out on "Obtaining the I.P. Address".

I chose everything the same way I did originally, a couple of days ago when it worked fine. Now for some reason it is not working. I select "easy" and scan to find my access point, successfully enter my WEP key code, then I have everything on automatic.

But something is up, because when it tries to connect at the end, the PS3 is not "obtaining an I.P. address". What should I do?

Thanks in advance.

Mick.Jagger*

02-26-08, 08:05 PM

I'm new to this thread and have not had a chance to read all of the prior posts.

PROBLEM: I'm using a Linksys WRT54GS series 6 wireless router. I have a Gateway laptop with Vista (wireless b/g) and am having trouble with media sharing (I have not used the PS3 for on-line gaming yet). The router has the the latest firmware.

The PC recognizes the PS3. All possible setting changes to the PC have meen made to permit media sharing. Intermittantly, and most of the time when I search for a media server under pictures ofd music on the XMB, the PS3 cannot find the media server, or there is an error associated with an incomplete list of file folders, or the folders are empty. Most commonly, the PS3 cannot find the media server.

At other times everything works fine. Help!!! Do I need to open ports? If so, why does it work some times???

Also having an XMB freeze problem, but that's another matter for another day

Any suggestions????

reisb

02-26-08, 08:39 PM

splinters

02-26-08, 08:50 PM

splinters

02-26-08, 08:52 PM

I have Linksys WRT54G v5. music streams fine (unless cpu on standby, which is weird) and video is hit or miss.

My problem is online play. Shows good signal strength (3 bars) and no problem playing rpg games (COD4), but I have been disconnected from 5 online NCAA College footbal 08 games.

Ideas?

Probably wireless interference. Of course 3 bars doesn't really mean anything, it's a relative scale. If you can give the exact db (like -65dBm) that would be more useful.

I would try it with a wired connection and see if you get the same issues. If not, then this is probably a wireless interference issue. You might also want to try something like a powerline product from Linksys instead if that is the case.

-Splints

reisb

02-27-08, 08:55 AM

Probably wireless interference. Of course 3 bars doesn't really mean anything, it's a relative scale. If you can give the exact db (like -65dBm) that would be more useful.

I would try it with a wired connection and see if you get the same issues. If not, then this is probably a wireless interference issue. You might also want to try something like a powerline product from Linksys instead if that is the case.

-Splints

How do I get exact db?

I've tried a wired connection for one night and only had one disconnect out of 5 games. Might be because I have DSL connection instead of modem?

What is a "powerline Linksys" product?

splinters

02-27-08, 05:02 PM

How do I get exact db?

I've tried a wired connection for one night and only had one disconnect out of 5 games. Might be because I have DSL connection instead of modem?

What is a "powerline Linksys" product?

dBm would probably pop up if you have a better wireless connection manager instead of the default windows one. Otherwise, I'm not sure.

The disconnects sound like internet issues, but it sounds like in general wired is better than wireless.

I would recommend a google search, but here's a direct link as well (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C1&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416942301&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=4230166539N03). I believe the PLK200 would be a good set. It gives you the range of wireless and more without all the wireless inteference or debugging hassles.

-Splints

mauly

03-18-08, 02:39 PM

splinters

03-18-08, 04:32 PM

I have a Linksys WRT54G v8 with a PS3 80gig and wireless laptop (Vista Home Edition).

Both are picking up the signal strong but whenever I try to find a server (wirelessly) I cant seem to find the PS3 on my network(from cpu) or the PS3 cant seem to find the laptop =(
Do I need to have the Laptop connected hard wired?! or do I need to open some port?

Look up DLNA and Tversity on the other forums for Blu-Ray players and you'll find more details on how to set that up. FYI, You can't browse the ps3 like another windows machine, it isn't part of the MS windows network.

-Splints

guy80

03-19-08, 12:12 AM

WPN824 works for me. I may upgrade to the new N Netgear also.
I use a sniffer to see what channels anyone around me is on then use one not in use (less interference) & also disable 'b' band bc I'm paranoid :p.

Rambler358

03-19-08, 02:39 PM

Mine is not technically hard-wired, but I'm using a Powerline Ethernet adapter and its been working great since I got my 40gb. And a very easy plug-n-play setup. :)

maximuslcd

03-20-08, 05:47 PM

splinters

03-20-08, 06:19 PM

Ok I have my ps3 and x box 360 wired, but I need to go wireless for my psp. What is the best router to get for both ps3 and x box 360? I can leave the consoles wired or go wireless with the ps3. I'm going to leave the 360 wired regardless because i'm not paying $100 for the adapter. Are there any problems with using it both ways? wired and wireless?

Ideally wired is always best for best bandwidth and ping times for gaming, so I wouldn't recommend anything but wired if possible.

Wireless is a decent alternative for non-time critical stuff like web surfing, e-mail, etc. If I was to recommend a good gaming router that would satisfy all your needs, I would recommend getting the D-Link 11n gaming router (http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=643) which will future-proof yourself for all your wi-fi needs. One of the main reasons I like this router is because it runs wifi on both 2.4Ghz (11b, 11g, and most 11n) and 5.0 Ghz (11a and a few 11n). If you do switch to wireless, I would get an 11n bridge/card (ps3 is 2.4ghz only) to maximize your speed and interference (everyone uses 2.4ghz including bluetooth, old home phones, and even microwaves!).

If your looking for a cheap wireless solution that your ps3 supports out of the box, get the Linksys WRT54GL (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1133202177241&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper). Classic and stable. If your a tinker, there are a lot of different firmwares you can download to tweak the WRT54GL to boost the power and other fun things.

-Splints

maximuslcd

03-20-08, 07:46 PM

splinters

03-21-08, 04:27 PM

well i'm going to keep my 360 and ps3 wired, i alreadt have the cables ran and use them now. The only reason i want a wireless is for the psp, i can still use the wired ports on the router for the consoles and just use the wifi for psp...right? currently using d-link di 604 wired

i just want to make sure i get one thats very compatable with the 360 and ps3..and easy to set up

If your going wired for you consoles, you should be able to use any wireless router (make sure they have 4 lan ports in the back, most of them do) should work. I'm not sure which ones have issues with the PSP, but if you set your security to WPA-TKIP (not AES or WPA2 modes), then you should be able to get it on the network. Wi-fi is a standard and shouldn't have too many variances from the router side.

-Splints

kingofthegrill

04-01-08, 01:41 PM

Ethernet is the best. But i have 2WIRE and it works well too. Its jsut sometimes when my bro is using his laptop and the other computer is using wireless, it slows down and lags a bit. No complaints!

natew2000

04-03-08, 10:56 AM

splinters

04-03-08, 12:55 PM

I'm not even a noob I'm more of a boob to HT and PS3. I'm setting up my basement HT and have a sony DDW-995 and PS3 on the way. I currently have the GT701-wg from Qwest and was wondering if the PS3 will connect to it wireless?

Thanks for the help

The short answer is yes, both the ps3 and your wireless router are both 802.11 b/g compatible, so they should work together. As for configuring, you will probably need to figure out your security key (WEP or WPA-PSK-TKIP or WPA2-PSK-AES) and write that down. YOu'll need that for the ps3 configuration to sign on.

You'll probably have more questions for this forum later. :)

-Splints

natew2000

04-03-08, 01:07 PM

Thanks for the help!!! I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions. I'll get things hooked up and see.

splinters

04-03-08, 01:29 PM

One quick hint. If your HT is in the basement, don't put your wireless router in the 2nd floor. wi-fi signals are not well suited to covering two floors well. Check some of my earlier posts about powerline ethernet if you don't have a choice.

-Splints

natew2000

04-03-08, 01:34 PM

The computer/router will be moved down to the basement as well so that souldn't be a problem.

Sinistar83

04-04-08, 08:43 PM

Mizio

04-08-08, 07:20 PM

One question: any point in going for a N Gigabit router? I was thinking of the Netgear WNR3500? Does it work with the PS3? Thanks

theslydog

04-10-08, 07:05 AM

One question: any point in going for a N Gigabit router? I was thinking of the Netgear WNR3500? Does it work with the PS3? Thanks

I use a b/g wireless router, but now also use a GB switch with the PS3 and that rocks compared to the b/g wireless. It also looks cool to see your tray icon that says 1.0 Gbps.

tsd

ludivigo

04-10-08, 09:08 AM

How do you do that? Is the router just plugged into the switch like your computer and PS3? Something like:

Modem
|
Switch
|
Router - PS3 - Computer
|
wireless devices

???

I bought a Netgear WGR 614 and it works great, but I think I'd like a faster, wired connection. Streaming HD video it takes a while to load and is occasionally choppy.

FooMasta

04-10-08, 07:02 PM

Linksys WRT330N Gaming Router

Works great!

rfuji

04-11-08, 01:35 AM

2wire (2701HG-B) DSL modem/wireless router
Works fine.

bgillyjcu

04-12-08, 09:42 AM

splinters

04-12-08, 05:24 PM

How do I disable this SSID?

My PS3 says 100% signal.......but when I'm trying to register for the network i get to step 3 or 4 and the damn thing just sits there then a message pops up that says "unable to locate server"

what is going wrong here

I'm using a Belkin Wireless G

You can't "disable" the SSID since that is how a wi-fi client finds the wireless router/AP. What you want to do is to have th have the SSID available the first time you configure your client device (in this case the ps3). Once it works, then you can go into your router settings and "hide SSID" so that it's not as publicly broadcasted for security reasons. The other thing you can do is to make sure that your router and your ps3 are configured for DHCP (automatic IP address configuration).

One way you can test the connection is to use the web browser and see if you can point it at the wireless router's IP address (usually something like 192.168.x.1). If you can access your router, than the wireless connection is working. If you can access the internet at the same time from another PC, then you probably have a configuration problem on the router that's not letting the ps3 on-line.

If you have more issues, just go over the steps that you are doing on both the router and ps3 side and I can try and offer a few more debugging hints.

-Splints

sugarshayne08

04-12-08, 07:06 PM

how do i disable the ssid and do all the other things on there

dirtyjersey

04-12-08, 07:44 PM

BZiggyZ

04-13-08, 12:25 PM

Got mine working like a champ Friday night. All I did was enable UPnP and hide SSID. I left all of the security setting in place and had no problems connecting.

sugarshayne08- You can access router settings by typing http://192.168.2.1 into your browser.

Real World

04-13-08, 04:59 PM

dirtyjersey

04-13-08, 06:07 PM

Appreciate the guidance. I've read up on the issue elsewhere and fortunately this seems to be the simplest route (fully intended ;)) . . .

But . .. do you manipulate the router's setting (via the browser @ 192.168.etc.) or do you "manually" configure the PS3 in the settings/network custom setup?

Agan thanks for the help and if you're on COD4 look for BigTrees!

~d

splinters

04-14-08, 01:03 AM

with my ability to "chat" "communicate" and other in game features.... PS3 (f/ware 2.20 - i know i know i havent been invited yet) wasn't anymore specific and to be honest I have not been able to test it . . . my wife threw me out of our (my) gaming room for several hours . . .

Anyway. I've read the F55D8233 "works" so I am hoping whatever limitations the ps3 was honking about are ephemeral....

Has anyone gotten this or can attest to what a NAS 3 Connection type is? Is there a setting within the Router Hardware that will duck any limitations?

AS for the Router firmware I ran a utility and it confirmed there were no newer updates. . . .

Thanks for your help...

If your ps3 is working and you can chat in-game, I wouldn't worry about the NAT3 designation. If on the other hand your having problems with chat or game connection issues, you can get a little tricky with your router and assign a static IP address to your PS3 and then configure your router to put that IP address on the DMZ which will forward all the data incoming to that IP address directly to your ps3 without filtering. The concern would be that someone could hack your ps3 since the router works as a natural firewall in the normal scenario's, but in a DMZ scenario the ps3 will be open to all to communicate to, good and bad. Do some research about DMZ and routers before you get started, this isn't for every joe blow, but does take some technical knowledge of IP address' and internet topology.

That said, no known virus', trojans, worms, etc are out there targeting ps3 today, but that isn't to say there won't be one in the future once enough ps3' are out there.

-Splints

splinters

04-14-08, 01:06 AM

Hi guys, I need some help. I recently purchased a PS3, and switched isp's from Comcast to Verizon cuz of my move to Direct TV. Anyhow, I had my PS3 wired to Comcast, and had no issues playing online. Now, with Verizon, and the "wireless", I have issues communicating with most players in game. Verizon sent my a Westell 327W wireless router. I've tried opening ports, but my cousin and I still cannot play versus each other. The game I play is FIFA 2008, and the play is basically 1 versus 1. I probably can connect successfully with about 15% of the players online. I've read that the Westell's are a hunk of junk. Anyhow, can someone guide me in the right direction? It's incredibly frustrating. The game's booklet says it uses port 3658, which I opened. that hasn't seemed to change anything.

Thanks in advance,

I would just get a a DSL or cable modem and buy a separate wireless router from your favorite internet retailer. The Linksys WRT54GL is a popular choice, and so are all the gaming/high-end routers offered by all the big names (linksys, netgear, d-link, belkin, buffalo).

If you can configure your ps3 to be in the DMZ on the westell router, you can try that before buying a new router. The other option is to use the wired link (if it reaches) or a powerline ethernet product (if a wired link is too far) to eliminate the wireless portion of the link to see if that is the problem.

-Splints

Real World

04-14-08, 09:22 PM

I would just get a a DSL or cable modem and buy a separate wireless router from your favorite internet retailer. The Linksys WRT54GL is a popular choice, and so are all the gaming/high-end routers offered by all the big names (linksys, netgear, d-link, belkin, buffalo).

If you can configure your ps3 to be in the DMZ on the westell router, you can try that before buying a new router. The other option is to use the wired link (if it reaches) or a powerline ethernet product (if a wired link is too far) to eliminate the wireless portion of the link to see if that is the problem.

-Splints

Thanks splints. I think I want to try the DMz route first. Anyway you can give me a walk through?

chad473

04-16-08, 09:59 AM

after trying every fix I could google, I wired my 40gig to a linksys wireless gaming adapter last night. Saw an immediate 2-3x speed increase on PSN. I think I'm just going to leave it that way. I never had connection drops and could stream 720p files easily over my network, 80%+ signal strength, nat 2, etc... but the store was always slow. On the ps3's wireless it would take 15-20 seconds for icons to load in on the store, with the adapter it was within 5 seconds. I even manually entered wireless settings so they were exactly the same (so far as I could tell) and it was still slow. I don't know why it is, but I'm not really questioning it at this point. Anyway, maybe an idea to try for people getting slow speeds.

watsonte

04-16-08, 10:27 AM

chad473

04-16-08, 10:41 AM

You have a model number on that wireless gaming adapter? I have a similar issue, and I am assuming that a larger external antenna will resolve some of my issues but would prefer to go with one that is known to work.

fairly sure it's the linksys wga54g. I'll double check when I get home and update if needed. I picked it up off ebay for about $40 last year. I really have no explanation why it's helped with the psn store, but it does. I never had trouble getting 80%+ on the ps3 wireless, there just seemed to be some sort of bottleneck. Over wireless my speeds would go up and down, speed tests via the internet browser were horribly inconsistent. i'm still not maxing my connection, but if I can get large demos in about an hour compared to 4 or 5, I'll take it.

watsonte

04-16-08, 02:22 PM

fairly sure it's the linksys wga54g. I'll double check when I get home and update if needed. I picked it up off ebay for about $40 last year. I really have no explanation why it's helped with the psn store, but it does. I never had trouble getting 80%+ on the ps3 wireless, there just seemed to be some sort of bottleneck. Over wireless my speeds would go up and down, speed tests via the internet browser were horribly inconsistent. i'm still not maxing my connection, but if I can get large demos in about an hour compared to 4 or 5, I'll take it.

Thanks for the info, more or less I have the exact same issue...if I run ethernet directly to the PS3 all is well, but wireless has been somewhat hit or miss...

splinters

04-16-08, 03:37 PM

Thanks splints. I think I want to try the DMz route first. Anyway you can give me a walk through?

Sure, to setup a DMZ you will need to do two things: 1) setup a static IP address on your ps3 in a non-DHCP addressable area (more later on this). 2) you will need to configure your router to put the ps3's IP address in a DMZ zone with all ports forwarded directly (specific port forwarding is sometimes offered as an option, otherwise all ports are forwarded by default.

Information Gathering for DMZ:
Ok, so first thing to do is to check what your starting IP address is on your router for DHCP settings. Usually under the standard IP address settings (LAN or DHCP settings may be other names for it), look for the starting IP address for DHCP. Usually it's something along the lines of 192.168.1.100 for a starting address. What this means is that your router will start at 192.168.1.100, then 192.168.1.101, .102, etc. This tells you that anything from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.99 is available for static IP addressing.

Step 1: Configuring your ps3 for static IP addressing
Next go into your ps3 network settings and we will use "custom"->"manual" settings for your setup. Enter the following into your ps3.

WEP/WPA passkey: <enter your wireless password>

IP address: 192.168.1.50
subnet: 255.255.255.0
gateway: 192.168.1.1
Primary dns: 192.168.1.1

You should test out your internet connection here to make sure that it still works. It should still work like it did before with DHCP. If not, switch back to DHCP make sure it works and then go do the manual settings again. If it still has problems, I'm not sure what to say...

Step 2: Configuring your westell router for DMZ status
Assuming your ps3 is online and working on your static IP address, the next step is to get your westell to reconfigure for supporting your ps3. The first thing is to disable your firewall if you have one. The next step is to look for a port forwarding or DMZ settings area. In there you should input the static IP of your ps3 (192.168.1.50) and if available, select an "all ports" option or "enable DMZ" type of option. I'm not sure what it looks like on the westell as I couldn't find a good manual or screenshots of the web page to really say. But after that, you should reboot the router, re-check the router DMZ settings. If all is good, your ps3 should be available on the DMZ.

For others who are looking to do the same thing. The goal is to put the ps3' static IP address onto the DMZ zone of your router. It can be accomplished as either a port-forwarding configuration or as a complete DMZ where all ports are automatically forwarded. Every router manufacturer does it differently, so it will take a little shoe-horning to get this to work for your specific router.

Be forwarned that you should keep an eye out for future ps3' virus'/trojans/worms as there is a good likelihood of these becoming more prevalent in the future. And with your ps3 in the DMZ, that means anyone on the internet can get to it too.

Good Luck!

-Splints

sb1

04-16-08, 03:57 PM

splinters

04-16-08, 04:02 PM

uPnP is one of those strange beasts in the sense that there isn't a good standard around it and so various manufacturer's have various versions that are not compatible. I've worked with numerous wireless routers and even ones with the same brand name don't work together, so it's very much YMMV when it comes to uPnP. I've disabled it on mine just to make things smoother on my network as well.

-Splints

chad473

04-16-08, 04:10 PM

ppshooky

04-16-08, 05:56 PM

Just an FYI. I had a Linksys WRT54GS, running the 360 and PS3. No problems once I opened all the ports for the PS3 and disabled UPnP. UPnP would not work with the PS3 for some reason. I now have a D-Link 655 with the PS3 in the DMZ, and everything is working fine. UPnP still gives me fits, so there's apparently something wrong somewhere else.
I've had a Dlink 655 since November of 2006, and the PS3 since January 2007 and have not had any problems with it, even with high network security and not having to put the PS3 on DMZ. I, too, can only get NAT2 with UPnP enabled.

I checked with Dlink support, and they told me that the problem is the PS3. Dlink was supposedly working on the issue, but it's really the PS3 that doesn't implement UPnP well. The support person said over email that he, too, was a PS3 owner and was experiencing the same issue with his Dlink 655 router.

EDIT: I failed to mention that I do not use my PS3 over wi-fi, but direct connection to the router.

bld93

04-18-08, 11:16 AM

splinters

04-18-08, 01:08 PM

I disabled the SSID and UPnP on my Linksys WRT54G (does UPnP need to be turned off on my PS3 as well?) and now I am not having any connection issues, after suffering with it since I bought my PS3. (Wish I would have looked here sooner!)
The download speed still seems somewhat slow, but I don't have anything to compare it to, so it's probably just me being impatient. (It took about an hour to download the Sega Superstars tennis demo last night - does that sound about right?)

disabling uPnP on the router is the key, without that the ps3's uPnP can't connect to other uPnP clients.

As for the speed, you can also try moving your ps3 or rotating it 90 degrees to see if that will help your antenna pick-up a better signal. Also removing metal objects next to the ps3 may help its wireless signal.

If the wireless is slow enough that it takes an hour plus, try using a wireless bridge or game adapter on the wired port and see if that improves performance. Otherwise look to the Powerline networking option I mention in a previous post.

-Splints

Officer Steve

04-28-08, 09:43 PM

splinters

04-29-08, 03:47 AM

Using Linksys WRT54G and it works MOST of the time, but not always. Sometimes it will not connect for a day or so.

I should note that i'm using a sprint ev-do franklin usb modem. I live outside dsl areas. I'm fairly sure my problem is the router, not the modem/signal. Wife's laptop works fine, ps3 is hit and miss. I can play COD4 fine most of the time, downloaded new map pack over the weekend, took two hours.

I've been messing w/ this damn router for a month now, i'm sick of it. I read somewhere that I may need to get a 3g router. Anyone know if this is true?

What's a wireless bridge or game adapter? Wireless bridge extend the range/power of my router?

So there are two different wireless technologies being discussed here and it's probably best to understand which one is which.

Wi-fi/802.11 (a/b/g/n): local area wireless, good to around 100 feet, speeds are anywhere from 11Mbps to 300Mbps.

3G/EDGE/EVDO/HSDPA: long-range wireless networking for mobile phones and laptops with 3G cards/usb modems. Range is in the miles (I'm not sure how far it really is) and it can move anywhere from 50Kbps-1.5Mbps depending on distance and technology.

The EVDO (3G technology) modem you have is the long range connection and the wi-fi is the local connection that you share between your electronic devices. In most urban/suburban areas people would be using DSL or Cable Modem broadband as the long range connection, in Officer Steve's case he is using an EVDO card from Sprint.

From the information given, since the laptop is working fine with the current setup, it does indicate that the problem is the wi-fi wireless connection between the ps3 and your WRT54G. So you will not need another 3G modem, that part of the connection is verified with your wife's laptops connection.

Now for options for your ps3, you can use either the wired ethernet port or the built-in wireless (that your currently using today). I will offer a couple suggestions from easiest to hardest (e.g. more expensive).

#1) Move your ps3 in any direction (left, right, forward, backward, up, or down) a few inches (less than 2.5 inches). Why? wi-fi and other wireless technologies is still based on waves and waves have peaks and troughs. The distance between a trough and peak in 2.4ghz terms is about 2.46 inches (6.25cm) and so you can try and help the wireless signal in your ps3 to be as strong as possible. Check the ps3's wireless signal under Network Settings to see if you can get as close to 100% as possible.

#2) Move big metal objects between your ps3 and your router or move your ps3 or router so they have as little in between them as possible.

#3) Get rid of any 2.4Ghz cordless phones (buy a 5ghz from some electronics liquidation store)

#4) Get a game adapter or wireless bridge. What this will do is to use the wired connection on your ps3 to the game adapter or wireless bridge. Typically the adapters/bridges will have better antennas and will have better performance than the internal wireless connection built into the ps3. Examples of this are the Linksys WGA54G (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826619&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper) or the D-Link DWL-G820 (http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=333). Your other choice is to buy another WRT54G and utilize it in Wireless bridge mode. Here's a link (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=36&threadid=1513386&FTVAR_STKEYWORDFRM=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear) about how to configure it, but if your aren't IT savvy, I wouldn't recommend it as it can be very painful.

#5) Get a Powerline Adapter like the Linksys PLK200 (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US/Layout&cid=1166859583396&pagename=Linksys/Common/VisitorWrapper). You would plug these into a power outlet (no surge protector in between) in two locations, one by the ps3 and another by your router. It will give you a wired networking link over your powerlines between your ps3 and WRT54G. An ethernet cable will plug in between each of the powerline adapters and your ps3 and wrt54g.

There are a lot of possibilites out there, and I tried to outline the easier options but if your wireless isn't working out well, don't fret it, powerline networking is always a decent option.

One other thing I can recommend to others with a lot of neighbors with wi-fi (dorms, apts, etc) is to get 802.11a game adapters and routers so you can surf on the 5Ghz realm and not be subject to heavy neighbor interference.

Hope that helps, feel free to follow-up if there are any questions.

-Splints

ericramz

04-29-08, 10:10 AM

I'm using the Linksys WRT54G2 Wireless-G Broadband Router, works great, have not had to reset or anything like that, at least for the first 3 weeks ive had it, would def recommend...

...btw, using cable broadband

Officer Steve

04-29-08, 06:47 PM

#1) Move your ps3 in any direction (left, right, forward, backward, up, or down) a few inches (less than 2.5 inches). Why? wi-fi and other wireless technologies is still based on waves and waves have peaks and troughs. The distance between a trough and peak in 2.4ghz terms is about 2.46 inches (6.25cm) and so you can try and help the wireless signal in your ps3 to be as strong as possible. Check the ps3's wireless signal under Network Settings to see if you can get as close to 100% as possible.
Gonna do this tomorrow when i'm off work.

#5) Get a Powerline Adapter like the Linksys PLK200 (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US/Layout&cid=1166859583396&pagename=Linksys/Common/VisitorWrapper). You would plug these into a power outlet (no surge protector in between) in two locations, one by the ps3 and another by your router. It will give you a wired networking link over your powerlines between your ps3 and WRT54G. An ethernet cable will plug in between each of the powerline adapters and your ps3 and wrt54g.

-Splints

I like this option the best, but sheeesh there proud of that thing.

My ps3 wouldn't connect again today. So, i turned off the media server sharing option and just pressed the reset button on the back of the router. Cranked up like a charm. I got killed all over the place on the new map packs before I had to go to work this afternoon. I suck at COD4, but I like playing.

ps3: revenuer

jazzzione

04-30-08, 11:02 AM

Apple 500 gigabyte AE Time Capsule is rock solid!! :)

Justinxpx109

05-03-08, 04:24 AM

joerod

05-03-08, 07:31 AM

About a week ago I hooked up a Linksys WRT54GL and the PS3 tok to it like a duck in water. The Linksys is on my upstairs floor and my PS3 is in my basement! :eek:

splinters

05-03-08, 05:42 PM

I'm planning on buying a ps3 and I have a Linksys wrt54gs v2. On the first page it says my router is not supported so is there any way to make it work or will I have to buy a new router to use wireless internet with my ps3?

Hmm, I don't have knowledge of why it doesn't work, but one thing worth trying out is to buy the ps3 and then set up the security with no-security first just to make sure it can sign-on properly. Next ratchet it up to WEP security key and see if you can get basic security to work. If that does work then you can use WPA-TKIP, and finally try out WPA2-AES.

If you can get it to work in one of those modes, you'll at least have some basic connectivity. If it doesn't work, your options are to 1) buy a new router, 2) find a way to wire your ps3 to your router, 3) buy a 802.11 bridge or 802.11 game adapter or 4) look to the powerline ethernet adapter mentioned in my previous posts.

-Splints

Bookhouseboy

05-03-08, 11:33 PM

splinters

05-04-08, 05:36 PM

I "unfortunately" bought a Linksys WRT54G router to use with my three video game consoles. I've got my Xbox 360 hooked up and my Wii uses wireless, but I can't get it to work with my PS3. When I try ethernet cable, the PS3 wont detect it, and when I try wireless, the PS3 can't obtain an IP address. I'm kinda glad I discovered this thread, because I was getting angry with myself for being ignorant when it comes to computers.

I couldn't find a software update for the Version 7, so I'm sort of stuck. I've been reading about static IP addresses and whatnot, but my lack of computer skills makes me feel a bit lost. Are there any easy ways of making this work? Any help is much appreciated.

Hmm, that's an odd setup. Working with the wired connection first, did you setup your ps3 for automatic network settings or did you set it for manual? You should be able to setup the automatic settings and have your router give it a dynamic IP address.

For wireless, what type of encryption are you setting up for your wrt54g? It may be a configuration issue, make sure your router is setup to give DHCP address' and that there are address' available in the router.

-Splints

tts42572

05-05-08, 09:23 AM

R2-JD

05-05-08, 11:12 AM

Apple 500 gigabyte AE Time Capsule is rock solid!! :)

Same here. I got one the first day it hit Future Shop here and it has been working great! :)

JD

splinters

05-05-08, 07:59 PM

Is there a big difference between a " Super G" router and an "N" Router?

I was looking at picking up a Netgear router...either the Super G WGT624 or a newer WNR834B N router. Just wondering if the N router would be worth the extra cost....also not sure if the N model will even work with PS3.

I'm pretty much a novice at all this stuff....have seen that the 624 Super G model has been reported to work fine with the PS3.....but if I'm going to get something, I'd be willing to spend a few extra bucks if there would be improved performance with the "N" model.

All I'll have running off the router is my desktop and the PS3. Distance between the router and PS3 will be about 15-20 feet....router will be in an upstairs office directly above the living room where the ps3 is.

Just wondering if anybody had any advice on the two routers I mentioned or would have a better suggestion.

I just want something that's easy to use but also reliable and fairly future-proof.

The ps3 has a standard 802.11g (54Mbps) wifi chip built inside, so Super G and 802.11n are both not going to help ps3 performance. If you have a laptop that has these features it could be worth it, but in general it's not worth the additional cost.

Super G has no chance of future-proofing yourself, so you might as well ignore it. 11n will be commonplace in the next two years, but the extra cost probably won't be worth it. You'll pay $80-200 for an 11n router today which will go down to $30 bucks in 2 years, so you can probably decide how much money is worth future-proofing for wireless technologies. Wireless routers are easily replaced when doing an upgrade, so I wouldn't worry too much about futureproofing unless your a serious wi-fi user.

I would recommend drilling a small hole in the corner of your office and drop a cat 5e/6 cable and just have your ps3 wired, that will give you the best performance without having to worry about any of the wireless technologies and it's the best future-proofing option since you can stick a switch back there behind your ps3 and have future ethernet connections for anything else that may want to connect to the internet (think xbox 360, tivo, slingbox, etc) to share the one network drop.

-Splints

Bookhouseboy

05-09-08, 03:30 PM

Hmm, that's an odd setup. Working with the wired connection first, did you setup your ps3 for automatic network settings or did you set it for manual? You should be able to setup the automatic settings and have your router give it a dynamic IP address.

For wireless, what type of encryption are you setting up for your wrt54g? It may be a configuration issue, make sure your router is setup to give DHCP address' and that there are address' available in the router.

-Splints
Thanks for your reply. I've decided to use wired connection and giving the PS3 a dynamic IP address, and it works fine, but sometimes the PS3 has trouble detecting the ethernet cable for some reason. To answer your question, I'm using a WEP key as encryption, if that's what you're asking. I've given up on the wireless connection, but as long as a wired connection works, it's no problem.

atrac

05-25-08, 04:08 AM

I'm using a U.S. Robotics Wireless MAXg Router (USR5461)
with latest firmware 3.93.35.0.8 (Oct 25 2006)
and it works great wirelessly, I haven't had any problems with it once I configured it properly, so OP you can add it to the list. :)

I am using this router as well, and while it works ok, I would LOVE to enable UPnP. The literature and advertising for the USR5461 says it supports it, but I cannot find ANYWHERE in its setup pages where to "enable" it.

Have you? Anyone? Thanks!

Scyno

05-26-08, 02:06 PM

Netgear DG834PN works fine even though it was said not to work.

Bobington

05-26-08, 02:26 PM

Netgear DG834PN works fine even though it was said not to work.

Yeah, I wouldn't trust the testimonials here very much. Most of the issues are due to configuration problems not the Routers themselves.

sublime90

05-27-08, 01:11 AM

PS3 40GB works with both the Linksys WRT350N and the WRT600n

dogdoctor

05-27-08, 11:20 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't trust the testimonials here very much. Most of the issues are due to configuration problems not the Routers themselves.
I'm sorry. But everyone should know to take a negative or a positive with a grain of salt without any info to back it up. Yes most issues are with the configs, but there are some routers (3) that people did extensive work to try to get to work and still no one has come forth with a working router. Secondly without this thread a lot of the Linksys issues would not have been so group collaborated on so well. And while most of the routers are now working, the information on how to get them working well came from early users testimonials and corrections. But to blanket all testimonials here as not trustworthy is wrong. Check the posters first. The router in question isn't even listed on this site as not working as far as I can read.

bplewis24

06-09-08, 06:06 PM

Sure, to setup a DMZ you will need to do two things...

Be forwarned that you should keep an eye out for future ps3' virus'/trojans/worms as there is a good likelihood of these becoming more prevalent in the future. And with your ps3 in the DMZ, that means anyone on the internet can get to it too.

Splints, I'm sure you would suggest setting up Single Port Forwarding or Port Range Forwarding in the place of DMZ when available, is that correct? I currently set up DMZ as a temporary fix on my router until I was familiar with which ports needed to be forwarded to the PS3 for gaming purposes. Can you englighten me as to which port/range or ports I should use in single/range port forwarding?

Using a hardwired Linksys WRT110 router. All has gone pretty well with the router so far. About 2 weeks old.

Brandon

splinters

06-09-08, 06:12 PM

Splints, I'm sure you would suggest setting up Single Port Forwarding or Port Range Forwarding in the place of DMZ when available, is that correct? I currently set up DMZ as a temporary fix on my router until I was familiar with which ports needed to be forwarded to the PS3 for gaming purposes. Can you englighten me as to which port/range or ports I should use in single/range port forwarding?

Using a hardwired Linksys WRT110 router. All has gone pretty well with the router so far. About 2 weeks old.

Brandon

Ask and ye shall receive: PS3 Manual on PSN. (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/connecttest.html)

For those who hate clicking on links...The port numbers for PLAYSTATION®Network servers used for this are TCP: 80, 443, 5223 and UDP: 3478, 3479.

-Splints

bplewis24

06-09-08, 06:34 PM

Ask and ye shall receive: PS3 Manual on PSN. (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/connecttest.html)

For those who hate clicking on links...The port numbers for PLAYSTATION®Network servers used for this are TCP: 80, 443, 5223 and UDP: 3478, 3479.

-Splints

Nice find. I'll add to that (from the manual) that those ports listed above are for PSN related functions and gaming on PSN servers. For other types of network connection (online gaming directly with other PS3 users ...I assume this would be for something like being a host in a GT5:P race or a Warhawk server), they list the following:

For voice / video chat and online game play, direct communication with other PS3™ systems is used for data transmission during voice / video chat and online gaming. The port number used for this is UDP: 3658. However, you may need to use a different port number when you are connected using a NAT router.

I'll test this out tonight and see how it works.

Brandon

splinters

06-09-08, 07:18 PM

Nice find. I'll add to that (from the manual) that those ports listed above are for PSN related functions and gaming on PSN servers. For other types of network connection (online gaming directly with other PS3 users ...I assume this would be for something like being a host in a GT5:P race or a Warhawk server), they list the following:

I'll test this out tonight and see how it works.

Brandon

Good to know, I didn't realize that GT5:P or WH wouldn't be using PSN ports! Get back to us on your results. Good luck on the GGL matches!

-Splints

dogdoctor

06-09-08, 08:08 PM

Good to know, I didn't realize that GT5:P or WH wouldn't be using PSN ports! Get back to us on your results. Good luck on the GGL matches!

-Splints
To add to those...when this thread started I was read a list of ports from Sony:

All of which you have mentioned so far Brandon and Splints plus:

UDP: 6000-6999
UDP: 3478-3479
UDP: 3658
TCP/UDP: 10070-10080
TCP: 80
TCP: 443
TCP: 5223

stingyboy

06-18-08, 09:22 PM

tmc1971

06-19-08, 09:53 AM

I use a Lynksys WRT160N with my PS3 40GB and it works like a charm....No problems at all. Very fast and no disconnects.

splinters

06-19-08, 02:26 PM

i have a d-link model wbr 2310. i can surf the web wirelessly and can log into MGS4 games, but after a few seconds it loses connection and boots me outta the game. signal strength is 100% and i tried adjusting the port to 5223 but i always get booted off after a few seconds of gameplay. same thing with online paradise city. i'm not a real technical guy to get this corrected. anyone with more knowledge and a minute to help would be much appreciated.

edit: should the media server function be disabled? is this causing the boot?

Chances are your getting a lot of interference in the 2.4Ghz range. My recommendation would be to see if you can change the channel on your wifi router to something less busy. The 3 channels you can use without overlap would be channels 1, 6, and 11. Most wireless routers default to channel 6, so I would recommend trying channel 1 or 11 and see how that goes.

If that doesn't help much, start looking for 2.4Ghz devices that may be on at the same time such as cordless phones (no mobile phones) in 2.4ghz, baby monitors, microwave ovens.

If that doesn't work, go wired. This would be my ideal recommendation but I realize it may not be great to string cat5 on the ground or ceiling between router and ps3. If you got a power drill think about connecting two rooms together with a little drilling in the corner of a room.

-Splints

stingyboy

06-19-08, 07:37 PM

Chances are your getting a lot of interference in the 2.4Ghz range. My recommendation would be to see if you can change the channel on your wifi router to something less busy. The 3 channels you can use without overlap would be channels 1, 6, and 11. Most wireless routers default to channel 6, so I would recommend trying channel 1 or 11 and see how that goes.

thanks a lot. i switched to channel 1 and was able to play longer than before but was still kicked about half way thru. i then switched to channel 11 and.......voila! metal gear online like a charm! thanks again for taking the time to help. much appreciated! =)

bplewis24

06-20-08, 10:57 AM

Do you stay in an apt complex, Stingy? There are free utilities you can download to tell you how much traffic is on each channel within a given range.

Brandon

dogdoctor

06-21-08, 05:48 PM

UDP: 6000-6999
UDP: 3478-3479
UDP: 3658
TCP/UDP: 10070-10080
TCP: 80
TCP: 443
TCP: 5223PS..I pulled my WRT54G out of DMZ the other day, leaving only the ports and it works fine. Knock on Wood. I have had a few headset communication errors in MS, XMB chat, and Battlefield demo, but they seem no more frequent than anyone else has experienced. I'll replace it in DMZ and see in a few days if its the same or better. I doubt it will change much.

splinters

06-22-08, 02:52 AM

Your wireless bridge via the Express sounds like a functional solution. The ps3's wireless antenna has had numerous complaints. One other option to try out is to move the ps3 a few inches left or right or even rotate the ps3 to see if that will help out. The ps3' wireless does give a signal strength so you can use that as a reference point to see if you can improve wireless performance.

-Splints

PShow

06-27-08, 10:51 AM

Viro

06-27-08, 02:30 PM

I have a Linksys WRT330N (Wireless-N Gigabit Gaming Router) and it works fine with my PS3 & PSP.

splinters

06-27-08, 02:35 PM

I just attempted to hook up my PS3 and the signal strength is 40%. Router is two floors above my home theater room. I am using a Netgear router, should I simply purchase the XE102G wall plugged ethernet extender kit or would anyone else have better suggestions? Thank you for you help and suggestions!

2 floors is a lot for a wireless signal to penetrate. If you plan on gaming online I would recommend a more reliable connection like the wall-plug ethernet you mentioned.

-Splints

bld93

06-30-08, 01:35 PM

If I open up the previsously mentioned ports and/or put my PS3 in the DMZ, will it still show my NAT Type as Type 3?

I've had some NAT issues with both my PS3 and my 360, so I set both of them up on static IP's and opened the correct ports, but my 360 still shows up as a strict NAT. I tested my PS3 and it came back as type 3 after the changes so I just assumed that it wasn't working right either and turned it off for the night...

splinters

06-30-08, 05:45 PM

NAT type doesn't really matter at the end of the day. If you open the ports up (or place on DMZ) you should be able to get online and you should be able to chat on-line as well.

If your having specific problems with on-line gaming, check the game specifics for ports to open up, otherwise DMZ will open everything up.

-Splints

seanrh

07-05-08, 04:18 PM

my dlink dir-655 works fine

ugabuga

07-08-08, 11:43 AM

splinters

07-08-08, 03:43 PM

First thing to try out is to wire the ps3 and see if that solves the problem or not. There is a chance that the wireless connection loses a little bandwidth adjusting for interference and that may be the cause of the stuttering/chunking.

Another option that I don't recommend is to bump up the power of the DD-WRT router to max output. It will stomp on your neighbors wireless signal, but it'll strengthen yours and will help keep the bandwidth up between router and ps3.

-Splints

bld93

07-08-08, 10:34 PM

ulnevrwalkalone

07-09-08, 10:34 AM

I have the linksys wrt54g wireless and I was having some on and off connection issues, but after reading this thread and updating the firmware I have not had a single problem with connection, thanks for all the info, Great thread! :)

splinters

07-09-08, 01:35 PM

splinters,

One more question...
I've still been messing around with my setup on my router , and no matter what i did, my NAT kept coming up as NAT3 on the PS3 (no problem there), and on my xbox it comes up as strict. I was still having issues connecting to people and games, so I've tried every different setting I know of to get an open NAT (DMZ, port forwarding, turning UPnP on or off, etc.).
I decided to run my systems straight to my router tonight, and when I ran the tests on the gaming systems, the NAT still shows as NAT3 and Strict.
Now my question is, is that an issue that can be reolved somehow through my ISP??

Thanks for your help!

NAT3 means that it's NAT2 with some ports not enabled so that is a strange that you get different responses from the ps3 v 360. If you can put it on the DMZ and it's still getting NAT3 it makes me wonder where the IP address is coming from. When you setup your 360, I assume all of that was under DHCP.

Here are my assumptions:
When you setup your ps3 you have tried DHCP and static IP's and still receive NAT3 as your setup. When you setup in the DMZ that was via static and the router recognized it as in the DMZ.

It sounds like your router is either blocking packets (does it have a firewall product installed and turned on?) or your router is doing something strange with the NAT translation and causing the PS3 to act weird.

So, you can try your ISP, but I doubt they will have the expertise or ability to do very much. My first recommendation would be to plug your ps3 directly into your cable modem/dsl modem/etc and hit the "factory reset" or equivalent button. Your ps3 should sign on and have no problems on-line. (remember to factory reset your modem again when you plug it back into your router). Your second option would be to see if you can buy/beg/borrow/steal/whatever another router and see if that has the same result or not (factory reset will be required everytime you change the connection point with your modem).

If that doesn't work, well call Sony and tell them all the steps you've gone through to get better than NAT3 but the ps3 is acting weird. :)

-Splints

bld93

07-09-08, 04:25 PM

NAT3 means that it's NAT2 with some ports not enabled so that is a strange that you get different responses from the ps3 v 360. If you can put it on the DMZ and it's still getting NAT3 it makes me wonder where the IP address is coming from. When you setup your 360, I assume all of that was under DHCP.

Here are my assumptions:
When you setup your ps3 you have tried DHCP and static IP's and still receive NAT3 as your setup. When you setup in the DMZ that was via static and the router recognized it as in the DMZ.

It sounds like your router is either blocking packets (does it have a firewall product installed and turned on?) or your router is doing something strange with the NAT translation and causing the PS3 to act weird.

So, you can try your ISP, but I doubt they will have the expertise or ability to do very much. My first recommendation would be to plug your ps3 directly into your cable modem/dsl modem/etc and hit the "factory reset" or equivalent button. Your ps3 should sign on and have no problems on-line. (remember to factory reset your modem again when you plug it back into your router). Your second option would be to see if you can buy/beg/borrow/steal/whatever another router and see if that has the same result or not (factory reset will be required everytime you change the connection point with your modem).

If that doesn't work, well call Sony and tell them all the steps you've gone through to get better than NAT3 but the ps3 is acting weird. :)

-Splints

Your assumptions are all correct.

I went into the router settings last night and was looking around and did notice a place to enable/disable the firewall. It was on, but i disabled it and re-ran the test on my 360 & PS3 and still no change.

I've got a couple other DSL routers around the house...I'll try them and see if I can get those to produce any different results tonight and post back tomorrow.

Thanks again!

Myth

07-10-08, 01:23 AM

D-link DGL-4300 802.11 b/g 2.4GHz works perfect man:)

KNace

07-11-08, 12:36 AM

ZyXEL X-550 Xtrememimo 802.11G MIMO Wireless Broadband Router hooked right up... quick speeds as well

ugabuga

07-11-08, 09:21 AM

I have a Buffalo HP router running DD-WRT and the PS3 in my living room. Signal strength usually in the low to mid 80's. My issue is streaming 1080p content via any upnp app (tversity, Wonky,etc) which sometimes will play fine for a minute or so then start chunking making it unwatchable. However, I can stream 720p content no problem. Anyone able to stream 1080p content via wireless?

Well did some testing last night. Ran a long cable out to my living room and lo n behold I was able to stream 1080p content grr. So next I updated to the latest release of DD-WRT and upped my TX power. It helped a little avging about 5-7 percent better signal strength, but after a few mins it would start to chunk. Gonna play around more this weekend see if I can somehow get it to work. I hate having to copy movies over to the ps3 hard drive as it takes forever for 10-30 gig moves to transfer. The lil 320gig hd i put in the PS3 can only hold so much.

splinters

07-11-08, 02:26 PM

Well did some testing last night. Ran a long cable out to my living room and lo n behold I was able to stream 1080p content grr. So next I updated to the latest release of DD-WRT and upped my TX power. It helped a little avging about 5-7 percent better signal strength, but after a few mins it would start to chunk. Gonna play around more this weekend see if I can somehow get it to work. I hate having to copy movies over to the ps3 hard drive as it takes forever for 10-30 gig moves to transfer. The lil 320gig hd i put in the PS3 can only hold so much.

So it sounds like the wireless bridge is your weak point. Your sharing of the wireless bridge plus other potential wifi clients is probably making it rather tough. I would recommend bridging the two wifi clients with a wired connection. If your not keen on drilling holes through floors, I would recommend looking at powerline networking like the Linksys PLK200 and similar products. They will give you wired performance over your home power lines, just need to get to an empty wall socket on both ends to have it work.

-Splints

ninjikiran

07-22-08, 09:18 PM

I got a Linksys WRT54G for $50 and it works perfectly in my apartment. I don't see any added latency, nor do I feel any that could be associated with the router. I get 100% signal strength just about anywhere in the apartment and it comes with nifty software that allows you to see every connection on your router, wired or wireless. If someone cracks your WPA or WEP code somehow you will be able to see their computer or device on your network easily. It has wired connection which I use for 100% reliability to my PC, and since my 360 has no wireless on it I use a wired connection for it to. Plenty of expansion for a home network, overall I am very satisfied with my $50 that could of easily cost me ALOT more.

Just a warning though, this router might not work perfectly out of the box for everyone. It drops your connection when something else connects to it, a quick firmware update which is loaded through the administrators home page(root:@localIP). After a firmware update I had no more problems and is a minor grievance that you will only ever have to do once in the routers lifetime.

I don't stream content through it, well I did wirelessly maybe once or twice and had no problems with speed. StreamMyGame.com through PS3 linux was slow as heck on the local connection and I really could not diagnose why since overall streaming happens near instantaneously. Any slowness is introduced via transcoding~ I got a new monitor for my comp which inputs and stuff though so all my game systems and computer are connected to it meaning I really have no reason to stream anymore. Since I don't use the TV for much anymore personally. As for other features I really have no use for at all, i couldn't comment on advanced administration. Setting up a WEP and WPA code was very simple and i was nearly up and running a few minutes after unboxing. Longest part was setting up all my wireless devices to connect, since typing in a code into some of those devices can be a test of patience since they password out the numbers as you type them in so if you make a mistake you need to stare over ugh I hated that on my PSP.

C_K_Wells

08-24-08, 09:17 PM

I just changed from Netgear ethernet over power to a DG834PN. My wireless signal is in the 90% range, but I get extermely slow performance.

Laptops in the house (located further away) get the performance you'd expect.

With the PS3 the wireless is the bottleneck, where you'd expect a ~5MB internet connection to be slower.

PS3 is a 40GB model.

DerwoodEE

08-24-08, 10:06 PM

I'm glad I found this forum and topic as I've learned quite a bit. I've read quite a few pages but still have some questions if someone could help me out.

Before I even bought my PS3 (which I got this past February) I bought a Linksys WRT54G router for my home network. I'm not sure of the version and can't look at this very moment as I'm out of town on business. My router is located in my home office and utilizing all 4 ethernet ports, office desktop, 2 VOIP phone lines, and a networked printer. Then I would often run a laptop wirelessly and also use my iphone connected to the wi-fi network. Well my PS3 is located in the living room but only about 15ft direct line from the router (through a couple walls). So since it's in the living room and all 4 ports are already in use I've been using it wirelessly. It's worked great for a while up until now except I would have the problem of all my other devices losing connection every time I signed in on my PS3, then they would go back up. Not a huge problem though a bit annoying and I read others on here had that problem as well which I guess is fixed with the latest firmware updates. I have not downloaded any firmware updates since buying the router as it's never even crossed my mind. However that is the smallest of my issues. I could normally sign on and play online just fine, however I wasn't able to download any game updates as it would disconnect partailly through the download.

So yesterday actually I decided to buy a new router and got the Netgear WPN824 Rangemax Wireless Router. I moved the PS3 into my office right next to the router and hooked it up to the TV in there just for testing purposes. All was working great and I was getting a 100% signal with it less than a foot away. I was now able to download game updates once again. However when I moved the PS3 back into the living room where it's supposed to be, the signal would drop to anywhere between 40-62% and it won't even connect.

So I guess I have 2 main questions:

1.) Is there anything I can do without moving either the Netgear router or my PS3 to incread the connection? I have not done anything regarding port forwarding or DMZ if that would help at all.

2.) If I decided to return the Netgear router, would downloading the latest firmware update for my Linksys WRT54G router fix my disconnect issues with game downloads?

What are your recommendations? Any help is greatly appreciated.

splinters

08-25-08, 07:08 PM

DerwoodEE

08-26-08, 08:13 AM

For #1) wiring your ps3 directly to the router will help since it sounds like your having wireless issues. You can string Cat5 along the ceiling or under the carpet if your not too far away. I would also recommend looking at using an alternative like the Linksys PLK200 which uses powerline networking instead of wireless as an alternative "wired" solution.

#2) Depending on the version of the wrt54g (version 4.0 or earlier),then I would keep it, otherwise I don't think you can do a whole lot on the router side.

-Splints

There is absolutely no way I can wire the PS3 to the router. For one, there's no more ports remaining. For 2, I have all hardwood floors so running underneath won't work. Above the ceiling will also not be an easy task as there's a fireplace blocking the route (hard to explian but it's not an easy path).

I just got back home from my trip and my Linksys is a version 6.

splinters

08-26-08, 01:12 PM

DerwoodEE

08-26-08, 02:32 PM

Sounds like the PLK200 is as good of an option as any. I would consider getting a switch (cheap ones are just as good as expensive ones nowadays) as well to expand the number of wired ports available to you.

-Splints

I do appreciate your help but I would really like to keep the PS3 wireless. I don't want an exposed ethernet cable running to it, nor do I want to go through the hassle of fishing one through the attic since where it would have to go would not be easy.

splinters

08-27-08, 02:29 AM

I do appreciate your help but I would really like to keep the PS3 wireless. I don't want an exposed ethernet cable running to it, nor do I want to go through the hassle of fishing one through the attic since where it would have to go would not be easy.

Wireless is possible, but realize that you will have lag and drop-outs, if you're ok with that, then I think we're good.

The PLK200 has nothing to do with wiring the attic or anything else. It just plugs into your power outlet next to your router and to your ps3. Check out powerline networking if you want to understand what I had mentioned earlier.

Hope that helps!

-Splints

DerwoodEE

08-27-08, 08:16 AM

Well I updated the firmware on my Linksys WRT54G and everything seems to be working properly now. I was able to download game updates again and I played some COD4 last night with no lag or connection problems. I took the Netgear router back since it wasn't working at all for me.

ppshooky

09-02-08, 03:52 PM

I see the DIR-655 was finally added to the list, but I'll post my findings as well.

I setup my friend's network yesterday, and was able to get his launch PS3 to work with the DIR-655 v3 (mine's a v1 and I still have not tested wireless). The only security settings I setup on his router, was disabling broadcast and enabling WPA/WPA2 encryption on the router.

Speed was pretty good and he was able to play Madden 09 online for about 10 mins without any disconnects.

mgm2003

09-04-08, 08:31 AM

I recently upgraded to a Netgear Wireless N Gigabit router (WNR3500), and installed a Netgear Gigabit PCI card in my PC. I can stream video, and music with no lag from 30 feet away at 100% signal strength. Since the upgrade I've only had 1 drop in 100+ hours of on-line gaming. You can bridge this router too, if needed.

splinters

09-10-08, 10:55 AM

An AVS user asked me about router replacement recommendations and I thought it would be useful to quite a few people. So here's my thoughts...

-Splints

#1) All you need is a 802.11g (54Mbps) wireless router, anything faster is a waste for the ps3 since it can't go any faster via wireless.

#2) No matter what router you buy, if the wireless signal is weak due to location replacing a router won't help you so you might want to try my "other alternatives" before buying a new router.

So Alternative #1 is to buy an external wireless gaming bridge or game adapter for your ps3. I would recommend the Linksys WET54g or the D-Link DWL-G820. The reason these are better is that you can move the wireless bridge around to a better signal position and you have a better antenna than the built-in one on the ps3. ($80-$120)

Alternative #2 is to use powerline networking which is to say that you will wire your ps3 to your router vs. wireless over your powerlines. It's new tech and most people haven't heard of it, but it can get you up to 200Mbps (vs. 54Mbps in 802.11g wireless) speeds and it's got great latency which is ideal for gaming and even streaming media. Take a look at the Linksys PLK200, there are a lot of options out there so feel free to research and buy any other namebrand that works for you. ($100-150)

Now if all that doesn't work and/or the cost is too high and you want to replace the router anyways. I would recommend the Linksys WRT-54GL (make sure it's the GL version) and I would look for DD-WRT open source project or the OpenWRT open source project if you're a programmer looking for a challenge. They have pre-built firmware's available but one of the nice features is that you can manipulate the power settings to do 3x normal power to see if you can boost the signal from the router to the ps3. If you got cash to burn, you can also look on their websites for higher end routers (like 802.11n routers) if your future-proofing. Here's a link to the DD-WRT list of supported devices: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices

maximuslcd

10-15-08, 03:21 PM

splinters

10-17-08, 01:37 AM

I am looking for a wired/wireless router for my ps3/xbox 360 and psp. The ps3 and 360 will remain hard wired but obviously I need the wifi for the psp. Any suggestions on a router all 3 will work on with NO problems...I dont want a big hassle trying to switch routers..I just want my psp online so I can update it.

I have read countless post and decided this was the best way to find out

I would get something like the Linksys WRT54GL and put DD-WRT on it. Great performance and probably the most popular router ever if you count the original WRT54G v1-v4.

If you want an 11N router for future proofing, look up here for the DD-WRT supported devices list. (http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices)

-Splints

maximuslcd

10-17-08, 08:48 AM

sb1

10-17-08, 12:10 PM

I think I'm leaning toward the wrt54g 2 I read some reviews about it on amazon that peeps are using iot for ps3 and x box...

what is dd-wrt?

I need one that is fairly simple to set up as I am not a comp or router expert..plug and play is what I'm looking for. I realize I may have to do some tweaking but I dont wanna get into a 3-4 hour setupDD-WRT is a free firmware that gives you a lot more options for your router. I've never used it, only read about it.

I bought a WRT54G2 last weekend, but returned it. It worked great with two wired 360's, a wireless 360, a wireless PS3, and a wireless laptop. Only problem was that it didn't have quite as strong of a wireless signal as my old Linksys does, so I took it back. It has relatively few options, but is really easy to set up and get running. I can't recall that I did anything at all to it other than plug it up, and all gaming/a/v streaming worked like a charm. $50 is hard to beat for something that works so well and is very easy to get running, as long as you don't need a super strong wireless signal.

jdrumm

10-17-08, 12:54 PM

I'm using dd-wrt v2.3 SP3 on a Buffalo WHR-HP-G54. It's being used to service the following wirelessly:

XBox 360
Wii
PS3 80GB
HP C6180 printer
Compaq desktop w/Linksys wireless/G card
Lenovo ThinkPad T60 (Atheros)*
Lenovo ThinkPad T61 (Atheros)

Stable, reliable, easy to configure and great range. The only configuration issue arose with the XBox 360 in that it didn't like WPA2. So wireless security is set to WPA Personal/TKIP. Other devices may have this incompatibility too; I didn't test them. We discovered the issue with the XBox early on and have left things set this way since.

* T60 is now on docking station with a wired connection, but was previously used with 802.11g wireless connection.

maximuslcd

10-17-08, 01:04 PM

DD-WRT is a free firmware that gives you a lot more options for your router. I've never used it, only read about it.

I bought a WRT54G2 last weekend, but returned it. It worked great with two wired 360's, a wireless 360, a wireless PS3, and a wireless laptop. Only problem was that it didn't have quite as strong of a wireless signal as my old Linksys does, so I took it back. It has relatively few options, but is really easy to set up and get running. I can't recall that I did anything at all to it other than plug it up, and all gaming/a/v streaming worked like a charm. $50 is hard to beat for something that works so well and is very easy to get running, as long as you don't need a super strong wireless signal.

My 360 and PC and PS3 are all wired, the only reason for the upgrade to wireless is the PSP, I may try the ps3 on the wireless since its an option but I prefer to keep everything wired. sadly I cannot figure out how to update my psp without my own wifi, and my son has a psp also so I figure I can use the wired ports on it for my main things and just use wireless for the psp.

Thansk for the review it sounds like you had good luck with it.

polygonkilla

10-18-08, 09:19 PM

I just got a Apple Express b/g/n for my MacBook, and decided to try my PS3 (wireless) - well it works fine with signal str. at 92-100%

splinters

10-20-08, 02:16 AM

I think I'm leaning toward the wrt54g 2 I read some reviews about it on amazon that peeps are using iot for ps3 and x box...

what is dd-wrt?

I need one that is fairly simple to set up as I am not a comp or router expert..plug and play is what I'm looking for. I realize I may have to do some tweaking but I dont wanna get into a 3-4 hour setup

DD-WRT is just a better software for your router. Wired and wireless performance was increased for me and the biggest difference was fewer drops and it got rid of a few slow connection issues for me as well.

My ping times went from 180ms to 105ms on average just by changing the firmware.

In general I don't recommend non-techies to install it, but this is one of the few cases I would say either go for it and just read the directions a few times to fully understand it before trying and/or get your local networking geek to help you out. This will take a few hours to setup, but it's worth it.

I have a setup where I'm utilizing two Netgear WRN834B's, one for my main router, and then my second one I put into "client bridge" mode so I can use the 4 LAN ports to connect up all the home theater to one 11N wireless connection. Less contention, lower pings, and 180Mbps performance. Great way to get your ps3, slingbox, and home theater PC running together without having too many clients all talking through wi-fi.

-Splints

JD23

10-27-08, 08:12 PM

I know it's likely a negative, but does anyone know if PS3 supports WPA2 security?

dogdoctor

10-27-08, 11:34 PM

I know it's likely a negative, but does anyone know if PS3 supports WPA2 security?Yes it does, I'm using it currently.

cruze808

10-28-08, 01:13 PM

My 360 and PC and PS3 are all wired, the only reason for the upgrade to wireless is the PSP, I may try the ps3 on the wireless since its an option but I prefer to keep everything wired. sadly I cannot figure out how to update my psp without my own wifi, and my son has a psp also so I figure I can use the wired ports on it for my main things and just use wireless for the psp.

Thansk for the review it sounds like you had good luck with it.

You might need to update your psp first before trying your wifi. I have the first model psp about a year since last update and I had to manualy update to be able to connect to wifi. Google how to manualy update and look for official sony web site.

maximuslcd

10-28-08, 02:12 PM

You might need to update your psp first before trying your wifi. I have the first model psp about a year since last update and I had to manualy update to be able to connect to wifi. Google how to manualy update and look for official sony web site.

I think I'm runninmg 3.82 it came with god of war umd..I have tried to follow the instructions via the PS website and all I get is pissed off:mad:.

I dont understand why you cant use the usb cable and update via the ps3...I can download games and movies via ps3 to my psp..why not the update?

anyway I'll let ya know how it goes once I get the new router...I have to buy MS pacific rift and R2 before I shell out $50 for the router...

splinters

10-28-08, 08:44 PM

I think I'm runninmg 3.82 it came with god of war umd..I have tried to follow the instructions via the PS website and all I get is pissed off:mad:.

I dont understand why you cant use the usb cable and update via the ps3...I can download games and movies via ps3 to my psp..why not the update?

anyway I'll let ya know how it goes once I get the new router...I have to buy MS pacific rift and R2 before I shell out $50 for the router...

Hmm, I guess you can't download the firmware to a pc, copy to a memory stick via USB and run it from there? If your having problems, make sure the directory structure on the MemoryStick is correct and that your using all Caps for directory names.

There are always cheap router deals around, keep an eye out for one of the major 11n router OEMs (Linksys, Netgear, D-Link, Buffalo, Belkin). Especially for Black Friday.

-Splints

esutrack

11-26-08, 09:23 AM

i saw best buy has this the Linksys WRT110 RangePlus Wireless G MIMO Router on sale on black friday for $39.99. its not on the list but im wondering if anyone has any experience with it.

splinters

11-26-08, 02:19 PM

i saw best buy has this the Linksys WRT110 RangePlus Wireless G MIMO Router on sale on black friday for $39.99. its not on the list but im wondering if anyone has any experience with it.

It looks like the WRT110 has been EOL'ed (End-Of-Life'ed) and it doesn't have DD-WRT firmware support, so I wouldn't go for it. It may work with your ps3 just fine, but I would rather have the DD-WRT functionality for the most flexible and powerful router possible.

That and I would want a 11n router for future-proofing. 11g MIMO is useless unless you have 11g MIMO laptop cards to go with it.

-Splints

Mr. Fuzz

11-28-08, 09:41 PM

First of all, Thank you to dogdoctor for directing me to this thread.:D It helped.

However, I chose a wireless router not on the list :eek:and...drumroll...it worked like a charm.

Due to the distance from my modem to the PS3 I went with:

Belkin F5D8236-4 (ver. 1110) (Works with PS3/PSP on secured wireless)

This is an "N" Wireless Router.

Everything worked just fine and update the PS3 to 2.52 and PSP to the latest. Updated before I secured the network and it downloaded the 2.52 update (from 2.36) in about 9 minutes.

Strength was 87% at the PS3. Equivalent to 8.2 d/ld and .80 u/ld.

Setup a secure network and they all (PS3 and PSP) picked it up with no problem.

This forum kicks butt.:cool: Just waiting for my cables and speaker wire from Monoprice...their prices kick butt. Soon to follow will be my new THX theater setup...;):D non-millionaire version....just a hundredaire here.:p

Mr. Fuzz

11-28-08, 09:52 PM

Yes it does, I'm using it currently.

I agree. Just set it up and it works just fine.

I did update the PS3 to 2.52 first...don't know if that will make a difference.

maximuslcd

12-01-08, 08:45 AM

splinters

12-01-08, 06:53 PM

well I finally joined the age of wireless and purchased the WRT54G2, my ps3 is now running wireless and it runs just fine, d/l's on psn are soooo slowwww
I also got my psp online and updated it finally:)

Although I have an open nat on my 360 I still have nat type 3 on the ps3, I even gave it a static ip and put it in the dmz..still nat type 3. I guess I'm gonna have to get more time to play witrh it but so far the nat 3 hasnt really bothered me.

Check the signal strength and make sure that your ps3 is getting a good signal. (something better than -85dBm) If so, then it sounds like your internet connection is a little slow. As always, I recommend gamers wire the ps3 for lag reasons, but it's not always convenient.

-Splints

maximuslcd

12-03-08, 10:34 AM

my signal strength is 100% ...the d/ls were just as slow before I went wireless. I have checked my speed several times and I'm at 5000, down and 700 up

I d/l 2 demos from psn the other night, started them. One was dead space the other was MGS4..I left the house , came home 5 hours later and dead space was done and mgs4 was at 80%...after 5 hours..I was so mad I just cancelled the d/l....

I feel this is a ps3 thing, my d/ls on the comp are not that slow or on x box live:confused:

I can d/l a demo or arcade game on live in usually like 15 mins or less

dogdoctor

12-03-08, 12:31 PM

I d/l 2 demos from psn the other night, started them. One was dead space the other was MGS4..I left the house , came home 5 hours later and dead space was done and mgs4 was at 80%...after 5 hours..I was so mad I just cancelled the d/l.... This is a common issue with large downloads. You can do the obvious like the rest of us if you want. Just set up the DL's at night and set the PS3 to turn off when done. It doesn't cost you any time at all.

TuxBobble

12-04-08, 12:26 AM

I've used quite a few. I'm a computer engineer so this kind of stuff is natural for me.

TEW-432BRP (Trendnet)
WRT54GL (Linksys)
WRT54G (Linksys)
WHR-HP-G54 (Buffalo)
FD9230-4 (Belkin)

All work fine.

Not sure if this helps anyone, but I've noticed that my PS3 wireless isn't as good as my routers' wireless capabilities, given the directional antennae, etc.

So, I currently have my PS3 wired to my Linksys WRT54GL which is running DD-WRT firmware, acting as a bridge for my network. It communicates with my main wireless router (a FiOS supplied cable modem/router) better than the PS3's wireless can.

Additionally, it was a great way of hooking up my SlingBox to the network "wirelessly" as well!

I wonder if others have had similar findings?

dogdoctor

12-04-08, 01:30 AM

Thanks Tux - all input is appreciated.

splinters

12-05-08, 01:51 AM

wireless bridging is definitely a good option for those who are savvy with tech and willing to reflash DD-WRT and know how to configure a router.

Other options include Powerline Networking (highly recommended! 200Mbps!!!) or a wireless gaming bridge.

-Splints

maximuslcd

12-05-08, 08:52 AM

Hey tux let me give you my address and you can come on over and set that up for me:)

as long as I can get my nat fixed to type 2 I will be ok with it. But I have heard way too many peeps complain about the psn being slow on d/l's for it to just be a wireless conn. Hopefully that will get better over time

T100

12-06-08, 09:23 AM

I own the WRT310N and after the last update its has a hard time signing in on my ps3 .The update is 2.53 can anybody help worked perfect before update.

cruze808

12-09-08, 11:56 AM

Guinn3sS

12-09-08, 07:55 PM

Any one got time for some advice
I got a wrt54g v2 I think Ive hard wired, static ip, and set dmz for the ps3 DSL through hawaiiantel (used to be verizon in the islands).
Is there some advice any has as to omptimize my connection I know DSL isnt the best but is there any other settings besides port fowarding that I can try to get better latency?

Try not living on an island in the middle of the Pacific ocean :cool: haha

VisionOn

12-10-08, 03:27 AM

I had to switch my PS3 to wireless to free up an ethernet jack for a a Blu-Ray player.

Using a Linksys WRT600N and it works fine using the 2.4GHz band using auto settings. The router is also networking a wired 360, a PC, a Mac, a wireless-N Macbook and a Pronto remote so it's not getting an easy ride.

The PS3 doesn't pick up the signal as well many other components I have however and it's only in the next room. My Macbook and Pronto get full strength outside and several rooms away.

bassage

12-13-08, 02:55 AM

I have a problem here, I hope someone can help. I am trying to setup my wireless connection. The PS3 finds my router and I enter the encryption key and everything seems fine, but when running the connection test the PS3 cannot find my ISP. I get this: "attempt to find an ip address has timed out." I have looked all over the internet and tried so many different solutions and still NOTHING. I tried the automatic settings and manual. can anyone help?

oh, and i tried turning off the security on my router and it connected fine. but with security on, nope.

javelinpr

12-13-08, 04:39 PM

im using a wireless g plus router from amazon and it works amazingly well. Its just 2 feet from the console though:D

dogdoctor

12-13-08, 05:02 PM

The PS3 finds my router and I enter the encryption key and everything seems fine, but when running the connection test the PS3 cannot find my ISP. I get this: "attempt to find an ip address has timed out."I'll let splinters do most of this, but I suspect you might have an internet provider that doesn't keep a static IP. Sometimes a call to the provider will/can help. Also if you haven't considered it, put a static IP on the PS3 so it doesn't have to go searching for one.

im using a wireless g plus router from amazon and it works amazingly well. Its just 2 feet from the console thoughI think most here would ask, if only 2 feet away, why not go wired for a more stable and faster connection?

cruze808

12-15-08, 02:55 PM

hughvh

12-15-08, 03:19 PM

Any one got time for some advice
I got a wrt54g v2 I think Ive hard wired, static ip, and set dmz for the ps3 DSL through hawaiiantel (used to be verizon in the islands).
Is there some advice any has as to omptimize my connection I know DSL isnt the best but is there any other settings besides port fowarding that I can try to get better latency?

You can't control latency on the router level. Sorry, I don't have any suggestions for you. Upgrading your connection's speed will marginally improve your latency. But you have to still overcome the distance limitation of being in Hawaii.

cruze808

12-15-08, 04:21 PM

Thx for the reply anyway.

BMLocal175

12-16-08, 10:03 AM

I posted this in the RockBand thread but maybe you guys can help.

Alright you RB guru's earn your keep here at AVS the place with all the knowledge.

My brother Just got the PS3 and RB2 Yesterday and bought a wireless router. Now I can send him a chat invite and he can see and hear me( he doesn't have mic or camera yet).

He connects to the PSN in XMB. He connects when he starts RB2 to there servers. He can check leaderboard stats. He can search for a Score Duel and connect to someone.

For some reason though when he sends me an invite to the band or a duel, "session cannot connect". It also doesn't work when I send him one.

Now I've sent invites with RB2 and they worked fine. So what could be the problem.

I've search the internet and got different reasons with people with the same problem and no really one fix. I just thought I would ask the smartest people on the planet when it comes to electronics.

He just bought the Linksys WRT54G from Walmart not sure of the version but it was one that is in the list that works.

Now we game on the pc also and use a program called Roger Wilco to talk and he changed a bunch of settings in the router because myself and others could not connect, but now we can. I told him maybe he screwed something up doing that.

I've read maybe something about a static IP and setting the PS3 as the DMZ but to me all that is chinese.

Any suggestions? I told him to take that one back and just get the same router I have and maybe that would just solve everything.

cruze808

12-16-08, 11:38 AM

What are the "settings" that he change.

hughvh

12-16-08, 11:58 AM

Any suggestions? I told him to take that one back and just get the same router I have and maybe that would just solve everything.

There is an option to test PS3's internet settings. Have him perform the test and let us know the NAT type. IIRC, NAT Type 1 is good, NAT 2 will work with some setting changes, NAT 3 is bad.

dogdoctor

12-16-08, 12:58 PM

IIRC, NAT Type 1 is good, NAT 2 will work with some setting changes, NAT 3 is bad.I believe its:
Nat1 - hardwired to internet
NAt2 - properconnect via router
Nat3 - improper communication via router and need to find the proper setup.

so's your face

12-16-08, 01:24 PM

There is an option to test PS3's internet settings. Have him perform the test and let us know the NAT type. IIRC, NAT Type 1 is good, NAT 2 will work with some setting changes, NAT 3 is bad.

i may have to try that myself... good tip!

BMLocal175

12-16-08, 08:14 PM

Wow very frustrating!!

He didn't really change anything just open ports. Well tonight we tried again and failed.

We opened all the ports that everyone had suggested on a bunch of different forums. I open them on mine also. We are both NAT2.

Now we have a friend that I have been playing RB2 with. My brother can join him on an invite then when my friend invites me it fails. So My brother and I can join the friend but all 3 is a no go.

Now our friend is wired router and we are wireless if that even matters.

Looked in my router options and didn't see anything about DMZ. I see where I can do a static ip but I'm not sure what all that is.

Now on my router it wanted to know IP for opening ports and I choose the PS3 IP should I have switch it to something else?

BMLocal175

12-17-08, 08:41 AM

Well after messing with this for hours last night we finally got it working so we can connect to each other.

We set up a DMZ on both our systems and it worked great.

Here is the article I found and we both used it step by step over the phone.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/610541

admo1972

12-23-08, 10:27 AM

My wireless b router works fine. Speeds aren't great, but it works for downloading updates and PS@Home. I will be running a wire eventually to the ps3, so I can do some real gaming.

Bolivar71

12-27-08, 06:25 PM

Great I see this thread just after I ordered a new LinkSys Router today to replace the one I got in 2002. It also didn't work when I used the RJ-45 wire. I got PS3 for XMAS and spent two days calling Sony Tech support and even returned two PS3 before I gave up on the third PS3 that it had to have a network problem with my router. Even got a new LinkSys cable moden since when I pluged the PS3 into the cable moden WAN port I still have errors 50% of the time but it did download the updates after 10 times. I was just a hair of returning the PS3 and going to buy a Xbox 360. Thanks Sony for the great Tech Support you didn't give me.

MikeTheVike

12-28-08, 02:47 AM

I bought a Belkin F5D9231-4 G+MIMO wireless router to use with my new PS3. I thought it was working fine because the automatic settings worked and I could download demos all day off of the Playstation store. When I tried to update a game though, or use the Playstation network, it would always disconnect with an Error #80710723. After doing a lot of searching I found other people were having the exact same problem with various other routers. I tried these "fixes", but none of them worked for me...

- Set my PS3 to DMZ per these instructions... (http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/610541) this gave me a successful connection, and NAT 2, but it would still disconnect after a bit of downloading with the error.

- Opened the TCP and UDP ports per these instructions (http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psnetwork&thread.id=24847&view=by_date_ascending&page=1), I wold get a successful connection, but I would be NAT 3

- Tried turning UPnP on/off

- Tried turning DHCP server on/off

- tried every security type, and no security

-made sure I had the newest firmware update for the router

I tried about a hundred combinations of these settings, and none of them could successfully download the 200mb game update. I am probably going to return it for a different brand, but I'm afraid I might have the same problems with any router, so it would be nice to figure out why this one isn't working. Thanks for any info

maximuslcd

12-30-08, 09:49 AM

Civicsixxx

12-31-08, 11:24 PM

splinters

01-01-09, 05:59 AM

I just havent had time to sit down and mess with forwarding ports, but I have nat 3 and so far have encountered NO problems with playing online or chatting.

I have a second ps3 upstairs, its using wifi and the signal strength seems to jump around, is this normal? it goes from 75% to 45%...although I have not encountered any lag

signal strength will bounce around because of other wifi clients around. This does add in lag, but not all of it will be perceptible to you. I'd recommend wiring it if you have a choice. At the very least look into powerline networking if you do game a lot on the 2nd ps3.

-Splints

Kimwyn

01-02-09, 09:14 AM

splinters

01-02-09, 04:11 PM

hey guys, i'm new on the forums and in this thread, i have a question......

Here's my scenario:

i dont have wireless in my apartment, but i do pick it up from someone else in my apartment building, the signal strength is very low (10%) but my PS3 does pick it up and goes on the internet sometimes but it regularly tells me that i have been disconnected from the access point. i assume this happens because i lose the signal strength sometimes therefore it disconnects. my question is, if i buy an access point, similar to the one i am picking up (which is a linksys), use the one i buy as a repeater would this improve my signal strength on my PS3????

i am looking to buy a linksys WAP54G do you think this will work???

What you are asking about is a Wireless Bridge and it is possible to do this, but it is not a standard feature in all Wireless routers/aps. Your best bet is to go to DD-WRT's website and find a router there that you can pick up for cheap and then upgrade it with DD-WRT's firmware. Then you will have bridging capabilities.

That said, I am very much against stealing someone else's wi-fi/internet for a lot of reasons the least of which is that gaming is a bandwidth hog and stealing someone else's internet connection for your gaming needs is not a valid reason. This type of thinking is why we have so many crazy fees and stupid government regulations to stop people from stealing and abusing programs. Do the right thing and get yourself a DSL line and pay for it yourself.

-Splints

Kimwyn

01-02-09, 08:01 PM

ok cool, thanks for your help.

Sorry for what you consider "stealing" someone's wireless but i live in Barbados and persons here do not really care that much about who uses their wireless, if they are they usually lock it. and i dont think i would be so inconsiderate to play games on their network.

splinters

01-05-09, 01:20 AM

If you can get permission from your neighbor, then your fine, otherwise your are "stealing."

Using someone else's property without permission is not "ok" or can be dismissed as something culturally acceptable. Just because you "think it is ok" is an opinion not a fact. If it is perfectly fine, just ask your neighbor for permission and everything should be fine.

-Splints

Mr Bigins

01-05-09, 03:42 AM

It_is_Me_The_IT

01-05-09, 12:44 PM

NJ3118

01-06-09, 12:56 AM

using a airport extreme...flawless 2 floors up from the router 85-95 signal strength always

splinters

01-07-09, 01:08 AM

Or offer to split the ISP fee.

Quick ?;

I have a new Netgear wnr2000 wireless N router. I plan to use my MBP to stream video and content to my PS3 via UPnP and maybe wifi(whichever works best).

Can you tell me if this is a good router for this?

Routers will be able to handle the bandwidth, the question is how reliable is your wireless link. Neighbors, # of clients, and other factors play a much larger factor than the router.

That said, I would recommend wiring your router for the fastest speeds possible and minimum lag. I've watched a few 1080p videos and everything will be fine for 30 min's, then a neighbor starts web surfing and the video starts stuttering. Once I wired it, no issues. Good luck!

Oh yeah, check out DD-WRT, their software rocks on any router that it works with!

-Splints

splinters

01-07-09, 01:13 AM

I have extremely fast internet 50 meg fios and the ps3 cant take advantage wirelessly. With your ps3 web browser go to speakeasy .net/speedtest you will never get a result above 3000-5000 kbps wirelessly even with 100% signal. When I use a cable I get 48000kbps. also useing wireless adds more lag to your connection

The ps3 has a 802.11g card inside that can handle 54Mbps of wifi traffic. If you remove the wi-fi overhead, your true bandwidth (this is what speakeasy/speedtest measures) is usually somewhere between 15-20Mbps of max theoretical throughput. In your case your getting 3-5Mbps so this sounds like your link isn't that strong. Typical throughput is 5-10Mbps due to interference.

The ps3 also sports a Gigabit (1000Mbps) Ethernet card which can take full advantage of your 50mbps internet connection, so this does follow. Removing the ethernet headers, you'll still get like 9500Mbps, so your best performance will always be via wired.

-Splints

RiderOnTheStorm

01-07-09, 03:23 PM

I found that you will have to set your modem to bridge mode as well, enable Upnp on the wireless router, and setup static IP on the PS3.

Wow very frustrating!!

He didn't really change anything just open ports. Well tonight we tried again and failed.

We opened all the ports that everyone had suggested on a bunch of different forums. I open them on mine also. We are both NAT2.

Now we have a friend that I have been playing RB2 with. My brother can join him on an invite then when my friend invites me it fails. So My brother and I can join the friend but all 3 is a no go.

Now our friend is wired router and we are wireless if that even matters.

Looked in my router options and didn't see anything about DMZ. I see where I can do a static ip but I'm not sure what all that is.

Now on my router it wanted to know IP for opening ports and I choose the PS3 IP should I have switch it to something else?

Tom Imp

01-08-09, 05:08 AM

I really need help with getting the PS3 to connect to my router and I am lost as to what I'm doing wrong. I have a Linksys WRT54G version 8.00.5 firmware.

I recently had a virus on my computer which made me have to start my system from scratch and reinstall everything. Of course, I had to do the router as well and now I cannot for the life of me get it to connect to the PS3 anymore. I did it before, but I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong this time.

I am entering all the info in correctly as far as I know. The only thing that seems to be different from last time is the DNS Server numbers changed.

Anyway, I will try to give all the info that I have in the Linksys setup.

Automatic Configuration - DHCP
Router Name: WRT54G
MTU:Auto
DHCP Server: Enabled
DDNS Service: Disabled
MAC Address Clone: Disabled
Wireless Network Mode: Mixed
Wireless Channel: 11
Wireless MAC Filter: Disabled
Block WAN Requests: Block Anonymous Internet Requests - Checked
Filter Multicast - Checked
Filter Internet NAT Redirection - Unchecked
Filter IDENT(Port 113) - Checked
DMZ: Enabled
UPnP: Disabled

That should be the main stuff. Like I said, this looks right to me from what I've read, but I'm obviously missing something. The PS3 recognizes the IP address, but when it gets to the internet access option I keep getting a DNS Error (80710102) message.

Please help if you can because I am really getting frustrated.

Tom Imp

01-08-09, 04:53 PM

Nevermind on all that. I got it working now. No clue how, but at least it's up and running.

golfjam

01-22-09, 06:23 PM

I'm glad I checked this thread. I thought I was the only one w/ slow connection on my PS3. Downloading fw 2.60 took forever!!

triple A

01-22-09, 08:26 PM

I have a Linksys WRT54g V421.1, I've been trying everything to get the network set up I could assign an IP address but it always failed get online.I enabled DMZ and disabled UpNP opened up ports,etc and could never get a connection wireless or wired so I was about to turn off security when I decided to try WPA in place of WEP any what do you know it connected and downloaded the update. The only problems I've come across when the ps3 is online it kicks my wired comp off but my lap top can connect, and changing to WPA means my wii no longer can connect well I guess you can't have everything

_Avarice_

01-26-09, 11:34 AM

splinters

01-26-09, 04:37 PM

Splints-

You seem to be good with this networking stuff....is there any good reason (read: not a marketing ploy) to go with a dual-band N router?

I just upgraded to N recently and went back & forth over whether or not I wanted to pay extra for the 5ghz range and ultimately decided against it; my thought process being that I'd never really bump against the 2.4ghz's limit with my uses. What really made it a difficult decision was the lack of interference you might see in the 5ghz band. There are a lot of other wireless networks in my area (and who knows how many phones, microwaves, etc.).

Do you think it justifies the extra router & adapter cost?

Hey Avarice,

Always glad to help warhawkers get kills, even if it might come back to bite me in the butt later. :)

2.4 Ghz is great because of compatibility with most wifi products (ps3, iPhone, most laptops, etc). 5.0 Ghz as you mentioned is best for lower interference. The one reason to use dual-band would be to do general web surfing and non-time critical stuff on the 2.4 band and do gaming and video-streaming at 5Ghz if you do 1080p stuff over wireless.

The more neighbors you have, the more reason to have a dual-band, but otherwise I would be happy with 2.4-only version.

Good luck!

-Splints

_Avarice_

01-28-09, 11:51 AM

^^ Thanks for the info, Splints!

The Playstations are kept wired, thankfully. Was only worried about streaming HD from laptop to Playstation and general web browsing.

SoyChulo

02-02-09, 02:01 AM

I've been running my 80GB PS3 with my WRT54GL w/DD-WRTv.24 and have had no problems. None at all. If I decide to stream media then the cables come out.

golfjam

02-05-09, 11:33 AM

dogdoctor

02-05-09, 06:27 PM

I'm having serious issues w/ my network. I have a wireless b/g router in my home and everything (laptop, iphone, xbox 360) but ps3 works fine. I get constant errors when I try to download anything or play online. I've wired my connection but it didn't work. When I test my internet connection everything looks fine but when I'm able to download anything it takes forever. I have a 10M cable internet and it took 20min to download 77M file from PS Home. Is there any way to change settings and make my connection more stable?? My last GT update took 5 hours, download failed maybe 20 times and when I saw the size of RE5 demo (955M) I just cried. Please help! Thx.I've become more the updater of the OP than a trouble shooter. I wouldn't know where to begin anymore. Shoot a PM to splinters. But in the mean time, give more specifics. Ie. Router, Settings Used, Type of Connections other devices use, ect...it will give the Tech Gurus more to work with.

golfjam

02-05-09, 09:55 PM

I've become more the updater of the OP than a trouble shooter. I wouldn't know where to begin anymore. Shoot a PM to splinters. But in the mean time, give more specifics. Ie. Router, Settings Used, Type of Connections other devices use, ect...it will give the Tech Gurus more to work with.

Thx. I've googled it and a lot of people has the same issues. I'll buy a better router this weekend, using a cheap Airlink101 b/g router, and see how it goes.

splinters

02-06-09, 05:01 PM

Thx. I've googled it and a lot of people has the same issues. I'll buy a better router this weekend, using a cheap Airlink101 b/g router, and see how it goes.

:) a poor router will be a problem for wired or wireless. Sounds like you got the problem in hand. Feel free to post if you got more issues.

-Splints

HK_M3

02-07-09, 04:32 PM

Once I bought the D-Link DIR-655 I havent had any problems with disconnects like I did with the Microsoft Surf one Comcast inlcuded.....

I have the DIR-655 with full firewall and WPA2 security.

bdwright77

02-09-09, 12:21 PM

splinters

02-11-09, 01:23 AM

Okay, so I've recently started having significant problems with my network. I just picked up a new PC and I am currently using a Linksys WRT 150n.

I've got my PS3 on WiFi and my Xbox hardwired. My xbox sometimes wont be able to connect to the internet and my PS3 gets "disconnected from access point" errors about every 20 seconds. I dont know why this started happening, as its only been since I got my new PC with Gigabit ethernet port. Really, its only been the past week or so, as the network was doing fine for a while at first.

Previously I had my PS3 DMZed but I've since changed it to forwarding the recommended port ranges. I've disabled media servers, but I can not get a stable WiFi connection, and I still dont understand why my hardwired Xbox cant get online unless I reset the router.

Any help would be very much appreciated. It may just be that the router is dying.

EDIT: Router's firmware is up to date and I can actually download PSN stuff without any issues. It's when the system is idol that it drops the connection. I really dont know why the xbox cant login sometimes still.

If your losing the connection on wired and wireless, then the router's s/w is either messed up or the h/w is not up-to-snuff. Wireless is possible to drop off, but wired should not.

I would reset the router first and see if that helps. If not, then I would try a factory reset (save settings first) and see if that changes anything. If they both don't help, then I would re-flash with DD-WRT and see if that works. If that also drops off, then it's definitely a h/w problem. Either call Linksys for a replacement unit or return back to your retail store for another one.

-Splints