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ECM8000 mic $50
25ft XLR cord $20
cheap mic boom stand $15
Behringer Xenyx 802 mixer $60, or mic2200, or other
assorted cord adaptors $20
I assume you've already got a soundcard so no need to buy that. That's it. About $150 or so.
Scott Simonian 02-24-09, 02:46 PM Yup. Covered on that end. Just need a better mic setup. I just don't trust my RS meter anymore. Heheh.
I knew I was gonna have to pick up a MIC2200 at some point. ;)
Thanks, Ricci.
MKtheater 02-24-09, 03:26 PM Thanks Ricci.
If you guys do want to get the ECM8000 mic, there is a guy over at HTS in the Spl meter's/ Mics/ Calibration section of the REW forum that is offering professionally calibrated ECM's from 20khz down to 5hz for I think $100 plus shipping. There is a wait but it shouldn't be long. The guys handle is Anechoic and his thread is stickied at the top. I'll be getting myself one. :) FYI. Way better than the RS meter FWIW. He can also do alternate orientation calibrations. IE 90degree.
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/spl-meters-mics-calibration-sound-cards/15951-cross-spectrum-microphone-calibration-service.html
lfe man 02-24-09, 04:20 PM Planet Terror has some good, fun LFE all over it. Not the deepest stuff but near constant low rumbles throughout.
There is at least one really low infrasonic scene, scene where those chicks are elevator with quentin tarantino and picture starts to go red.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l165/anidabi/Hifi/Spectrum_lab/DVD/Planet_Terror_ch23_1h_16min_40s.jpg
Mrkazador 02-24-09, 04:21 PM better late than never on the DK charts! ;)
I know it's NOT deep but was the club sequence pushing ref. level (around 60 Hz I'm sure)...??
Where is the Club scene, I can't seem to find it... I know its there somewhere but I forgot :confused:
EDIT: Found it, most of the bass is around 80hz.
SbWillie 02-24-09, 07:57 PM 1:03:58 on the club scene....
I know there's been ONE chart on the rig/tumbler/Batpod IMAX sequence but there has to be a ton of bass in that sequence that hasn't been posted (the tumbler taking out the garbage truck comes to mind for example).
MKtheater 02-25-09, 01:27 AM I show that chase scene all the time because of all the great sounds involved.
Helmutz88 02-28-09, 07:33 AM When the tumbler dump's the garbage truck off and pulls a uball, that bass feels like it's skipping my couch, loud..right after that when the tumbler goes through the wall and auto destruct happen's is very loud on my system as well.
Brian.Leveille 02-28-09, 11:11 AM I just wanted "He was a Quiet Man" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0760311) and wow. I would never have guessed, but there are some scenes in this movie with some really low/loud bass. Maybe it was just because I had the volume on my sub tweak up a bit, but stuff in my house was definitely shaking.
Does this movie really have that much low energy, or was my sub just tweaked up too high?
Maybe someone can grab some waterfalls??
-BL
JBLsound4645 02-28-09, 12:26 PM Shotgun blast was loud over most of the other effects which didn’t make sense due to the size of the firearm?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=135096&stc=1&d=1235841864
SbWillie 02-28-09, 08:52 PM U mind doing a somewhat extensive charting of the TUmbler/rig/Bat-Pod chase sequence,JBL?? (Yes I'm REALLY asking)! :)
so is the Joker's shotgun blast from inside the rig similar to the banker's?
JBLsound4645 03-01-09, 05:14 AM U mind doing a somewhat extensive charting of the TUmbler/rig/Bat-Pod chase sequence,JBL?? (Yes I'm REALLY asking)! :)
so is the Joker's shotgun blast from inside the rig similar to the banker's?
Now are you asking as sign of respect or just asking because you, guys should be able to do individual independent discrete waterfall frequency spectrums by now.
Just take the lead unplug each of the six outputs from the AVR and go though them one-at-a-time. Yes its also hard work.
I hope this is the one you’re talking about because I’m not doing another one.
Also, what settings have you got the smoothing bins at? No not the dustbins where you stick the rubbish the smoothing bins it’s located on the FTT on the spectrumlab?
Region 2 DVD
Chapter 2
Time 8 minutes 27 seconds to 8 minutes 33 seconds
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk279/SpectrumsubbassLFE13417/TheDarkKnightTumblerbatcar.jpg
Now are you asking as sign of respect
are you my friend? god...father ?
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj186/DarkGlobe520/godfather.jpg
JBLsound4645 03-01-09, 11:34 AM are you my friend? god...father ?
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj186/DarkGlobe520/godfather.jpg
LOL now that it is funny. No horse head please. :D
http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/godfather_horse.jpg
SbWillie 03-01-09, 12:36 PM JBL,
I can't..that's why I no longer post them. My comp is down and I wont download SpecLab to her comp...would tie up her laptop for wayyyy more time than I'm `allowed' on her comp.
SbWillie 03-01-09, 12:39 PM :DNow are you asking as sign of respect or just asking because you, guys should be able to do individual independent discrete waterfall frequency spectrums by now.
Region 2 DVD
Chapter 2
Time 8 minutes 27 seconds to 8 minutes 33 seconds
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk279/SpectrumsubbassLFE13417/TheDarkKnightTumblerbatcar.jpg
smoothing bins??:eek:
I knew there was some solid bass in the tumbler parking garage sequence...u got any for the chase sequence ?
The club scene should still have even HOTTER bass than that...based on my memory anyway. The Klipsch surround subs at my local theater were hitting VERY hard on the club scene (NOT isolated to the fronts 4 sure).
MY HT is STILL on hold so I can't do the `per channel' stuff.
JBLsound4645 03-01-09, 02:34 PM :D
smoothing bins??:eek:
I knew there was some solid bass in the tumbler parking garage sequence...u got any for the chase sequence ?
The club scene should still have even HOTTER bass than that...based on my memory anyway. The Klipsch surround subs at my local theater were hitting VERY hard on the club scene (NOT isolated to the fronts 4 sure).
MY HT is STILL on hold so I can't do the `per channel' stuff.
I might do it maybe no promises. Thou there is good Foley moment that has some bone crunching Yikes god damn!
“-From one professional to another…you’re trying to scare somebody, pick a better spot.
From this height the, the fall wouldn’t kill me.
"-I’m counting on it".
"-Hug"!
[Screams] Arggghhh!
[BONE CRACKS]
[MARONI YELLS]
Mrkazador 03-03-09, 01:42 AM Afro Samurai Uncut DTS
AC3Filter: 120hz Redirected Bass
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00:27:17
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01:02:32
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01:08:21
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Why hasn't Death Race been mentioned or listed? Death Race is about the most bass I've ever heard during a movie, incredible!
mdk2007 03-03-09, 01:36 PM Why hasn't Death Race been mentioned or listed? Death Race is about the most bass I've ever heard during a movie, incredible!
Really? What scenes? I have a pretty heavy system and i dont remember anything that would make me wanna go back and watch it again, like the top tier movies...
MKtheater 03-03-09, 01:50 PM Shotgun blast was loud over most of the other effects which didn’t make sense due to the size of the firearm?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=135096&stc=1&d=1235841864
A sawed off shotgun would be louder than anything going on in the bank. There is a reason why people wear ear plugs in a shooting range, gun fire is very loud. That blast is probably more realistic than most. Also, the big chain gun blasts are very loud and sound impressive. The chase scene has alot of great bass(quality and loud).
Hey JBL, I am getting closer to that real cinema in London. I now have 16,800 watts on tap. The JBL cinema speakers love this power and sounds amazing.
Really? What scenes? I have a pretty heavy system and i dont remember anything that would make me wanna go back and watch it again, like the top tier movies...
Pretty much the whole movie is loaded with LFE. I don't own the movie (after renting it I'm seriuosly considering buying it) so I can not accurately tell you what exact scenes were the best but I do recall some heavy LFE when the "tombstone " was ejected from the back of the car. All the gunfire, gatling guns, cannons, and crashes were all pretty intense. I am referring to the blu-ray.
MKtheater 03-03-09, 11:20 PM Another request. I just watched Quarantine and there is a scene that had low bass and it shook my room pretty good. Not the loudest bass but I am curious how low it went. It was when the CDC men enter the building. The time stamps were 51 minutes to 53 minutes(estimated). I thought the effect was nice. Also, this movie at reference levels made the fire truck ride seem real(My friend is a fireman and he said that was as close as it will get). Bass you can feel and sirens that were loud. This movie was recorded a little hot compared to others but reference levels were still tolerable thru the whole movie(warning: it was really loud but super clear) which made the movie very intense and jumping. I could make anyone jump with those loud suprises.
JBLsound4645 03-04-09, 05:58 PM A sawed off shotgun would be louder than anything going on in the bank. There is a reason why people wear ear plugs in a shooting range, gun fire is very loud. That blast is probably more realistic than most. Also, the big chain gun blasts are very loud and sound impressive. The chase scene has alot of great bass(quality and loud).
Hey JBL, I am getting closer to that real cinema in London. I now have 16,800 watts on tap. The JBL cinema speakers love this power and sounds amazing.
Are you physically aiming for 56KW,:D if so you might as well go with the JBL 4645C subs because that alone is 20KW on the sub bass channel and that was impacting with Transformers! Transformers 2, coming soon and Star Trek in few months, providing seating politics doesn’t get in the way of 56KW JBL THX!
The original was 13KW and that was in my face I mean in my face, no I mean in my, I said in face and that was 20 years ago.
Have you tightened down your home I mean you don’t want it to collapse form structural JBL damage! You’re a funny guy, and crazy.:D
I wonder what the frequency response is like on Last Man Standing 1996 dts laserdisc that was ludicrously loud with rapid recoil action from the Colt 45 Bruce was using. If in fact that was the Real sound.
I might fire up the laserdisc tomorrow, not now, too late its approaching 12 mid night and that film will wake the dead.:D
MKtheater 03-06-09, 09:45 AM Hey guys, just a reminder. Try out Quarantine, timestamp 51:09-52:58(should be pretty close). It is when the CDC comes in the doors. Not the loudest but seems like a nice wave after wave low bass pulse. I like these kind of bass scenes. It adds to the movie. It won't shock you but it is clean low bass(well, it feels like it anyway.
SlowcarIX 03-06-09, 12:19 PM Matrix Revolutions (Part #3)
towards the end...Neo speaks to this porcupine looking thing in the machine city...anyone can do a waterfall...the things voice moves every air molecule in my room...:eek::D
Scott Simonian 03-06-09, 01:41 PM Matrix Revolutions (Part #3)
towards the end...Neo speaks to this porcupine looking thing in the machine city...anyone can do a waterfall...the things voice moves every air molecule in my room...:eek::D
Lots of 20-30hz stuff right there, Slowcar. I thought there was a waterfall of that scene online somewhere. If not here than at the much older HTF 'waterfall' thread. Also in 'Revolutions' just before that part, there is a shot of Neo walking in a hallway but the shot shows the 'Energy Vision' of all the walls in a yellow-ish orange. Anyway, in that shot there is some good 10hz/low teens stuff.
lfe man 03-06-09, 04:19 PM I put soon some matrix revolution waterfalls here. Stay tuned.:)
Edit: Here they are.
lobby shooting and disco chap5
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/lobbyshootoutchap5.jpg
i can see you chap14
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/icanseeyouchap14.jpg
apus to position chap15
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/apustopositionschap15.jpg
apus march to firing position chap15
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/apusmarchtofirepositionchap17.jpg
knuckle up chap17
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/knuckleupchap17.jpg
dig this chap18
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/digthischap18.jpg
full power ninety degrees chap19
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/fullpowerninetydegreeschap19.jpg
neo, i believe chap21
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/neoibelievechap21.jpg
neo walks to main machine chap26
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/neowalkstomainmachinechap26.jpg
and, if you fail chap26
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/andifyoufailchap26.jpg
it ends tonight chap27
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/itendstonightchap27.jpg
the purpose of life is to end chap28
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/thepurposeoflifeistoendchap28.jpg
because i choose to chap29
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/becauseichoosetochap29.jpg
is it over chap30
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/isitoverchap30.jpg
Mrkazador 03-06-09, 08:14 PM Nice lfe man.
It was weird that they were none posted before being a popular movie.
SteveMo 03-07-09, 04:16 AM I had really expected to more LFE in "if you should fail". "Knuckle up" looks about right but to me the "lobby shooting" looks better in the waterfall then I thought it might. Thanks lfe man. I can't recall how many times I have searched for these.
been a while since ive posted here on avs,
heres a quick question, of most of these movies, which one would you 'believe' would have the lowest frequency being hit on them? i see a number of specs going down to about 5hz, but im just curious as to how it would 'feel'.
another question would be would you notice the difference in the said 'peaks' using a blu-ray version versus a dvd version? just point of conversation thats all... :)
lfe man 03-08-09, 07:56 PM Thanks guys, its nice to get some feedback for hardwork.:) But, anyway mrkazador do you have tropic thunder, im interested the scene where les grossman dances first time, maybe its not that lowbass(btw the song name is low:from Flo rida feat T.Pain), but it has nice effect because it comes from nowhere and it is pretty loud in that scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JCBqQu2Nqo&feature=related
Mrkazador 03-08-09, 10:38 PM Don't have that movie :(
lalakersfan34 03-08-09, 11:21 PM Great waterfalls, lfe man! Quick question - is this taken from the DVD, HD-DVD, or Blu-ray version of Matrix Revolutions?
lfe man 03-09-09, 12:26 AM Dvd. Would be interesting, usually to see differences dvd vs blu-ray in bass levels.
MIkeDuke 03-09-09, 07:58 AM I just have one word
WATCHMEN :)
Scott Simonian 03-09-09, 01:37 PM been a while since ive posted here on avs,
heres a quick question, of most of these movies, which one would you 'believe' would have the lowest frequency being hit on them? i see a number of specs going down to about 5hz, but im just curious as to how it would 'feel'.
another question would be would you notice the difference in the said 'peaks' using a blu-ray version versus a dvd version? just point of conversation thats all... :)
That's hard to say for sure, it really depends on the user's system. I'd say thru watching the three many times that the bass got deeper and lower from each sequel to the next. Reloaded is my favorite for bass but Revolutions probably has the most amount of deep bass of the three.
I haven't noticed that BD's sound more dynamic or have better peaks than dvd's. They sure sound a whole lot better though. ;)
I haven't noticed that BD's sound more dynamic or have better peaks than dvd's. They sure sound a whole lot better though. ;)
sure they'd sound better, but would they go lower, that is the question. :)
Scott Simonian 03-09-09, 02:02 PM No. Unless there is a new mix for the BD (which there usually isn't) the mix will be the same so the bass content will also be the same. It just may sound better on BD. ;)
eightninesuited 03-09-09, 02:11 PM Watchmen
Yea, it's not out on Blu-ray, but that movie has some crazy bass! We'll be talking about it when it comes out. If you love Bass and haven't seen Watchmen, go see it.
croseiv 03-09-09, 05:46 PM I just have one word
WATCHMEN :)
Looks like a good movie too.
sourbeef 03-09-09, 06:11 PM KFP should be rated higher. I give it 5 stars reference material.
croseiv 03-09-09, 06:14 PM KFP should be rated higher. I give it 5 stars reference material.
I completely agree. At least a 4.5.
MIkeDuke 03-09-09, 06:24 PM Looks like a good movie too.
IMO, it was a great movie.
sourbeef 03-09-09, 06:26 PM I have the BD also. The bass scenes in WALL-E were the best when the ship was landing and taking off. Not great bass but it did have some. EVA's gun blasts didn't seem all that deep to me.
I dunno, I thought WALL-E had some room shaking bass scattered nicely throughout the movie. Whenever there was a spacecraft scene, it shook the room. I think it is underrated. Perhaps it is the listening level that makes a difference between listeners. I usually listen fairly loud at -5 reference. Then again, it could easily be the subwoofer. I have an Ultra, which is an awesome HT subwoofer.
croseiv 03-11-09, 07:06 PM I dunno, I thought WALL-E had some room shaking bass scattered nicely throughout the movie. Whenever there was a spacecraft scene, it shook the room. I think it is underrated. Perhaps it is the listening level that makes a difference between listeners. I usually listen fairly loud at -5 reference. Then again, it could easily be the subwoofer. I have an Ultra, which is an awesome HT subwoofer.
I'll have to give the BD another look/listen. I don't recall being overly impressed as I was I TDK, Hulk or KFP. I never listen at -5 though....
at the beginning of the movie "live free or die hard" anyone ever notice that cool bass effect at the end of the 20th century fox intro/logo ?
lfe man 03-11-09, 09:21 PM at the beginning of the movie "live free or die hard" anyone ever notice that cool bass effect at the end of the 20th century fox intro/logo ?
Yes, i do and that scene where the city got powerdown after gas explosion has some nice low? bass too.
Yes, i do and that scene where the city got powerdown after gas explosion has some nice low? bass too.
i'll have to check that part out :cool:
MIkeDuke 03-12-09, 07:58 AM Agree on both parts of Live Free. When the logo goes out and when the power goes out have some really nice bass.
I agree that Watchmen had some nice low sweeps in the scenes with the ship flying, BUT........
The movie itself was totally borrrrring. 2.5 hours of TALKING, maybe 15 minutes total of any kind of action.
We will have to see how the sound is on DVD, but for me, definitely not worth it.:mad:
Mrkazador 03-12-09, 10:15 PM Quantum of Solace DTS
AC3Filter: 120hz redirected bass
Lots of good bass in this movie especially the airplane scene.
00:44:38
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01:06:43 (Airplane scene, thumbnail is black for some reason. Maybe its too big?)
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MIkeDuke 03-13-09, 09:23 AM At least when you click on the link it brings you to the right page. Yea. That does seem to have some good bass.
danothemanoisgoo 03-13-09, 07:51 PM Quantum of Solace DTS
AC3Filter: 120hz redirected bass
Lots of good bass in this movie especially the airplane scene.
00:44:38
http://hdimage.org/images/2ko8kqazdgth0zgeb8d_004438_thumb.jpg (http://hdimage.org/viewer.php?file=2ko8kqazdgth0zgeb8d_004438.jpg)
01:06:43 (Airplane scene, thumbnail is black for some reason. Maybe its too big?)
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How'd you get QoS so soon?
JBLsound4645 03-14-09, 10:14 AM How'd you get QoS so soon?
I’m guessing he has friend at one of the offices that sent him an unofficial copy.
I was sent a copy of RAMBO III when I noticed the version was the same one with the same DVD menus of the first edition. I phoned the company reasonable for the transfer and they dispatched an unofficial copy unannounced six-track Dolby stereo discrete version to replace the Dolby stereo 4:2:4 version. The disc also includes audio commentary and more. The DVD gets another realise sometime this year.
I’m guessing he has friend at one of the offices that sent him an unofficial copy.
I was sent a copy of RAMBO III when I noticed the version was the same one with the same DVD menus of the first edition. I phoned the company reasonable for the transfer and they dispatched an unofficial copy unannounced six-track Dolby stereo discrete version to replace the Dolby stereo 4:2:4 version. The disc also includes audio commentary and more. The DVD gets another realise sometime this year.
so your the one who has that :D
JBLsound4645 03-14-09, 12:33 PM so your the one who has that :D
Yeah that’s me I’m the only in Bournemouth with region 2 unofficial six-track Dolby stereo version, unless others phoned up and complained and got the replacement disc. I shouldn’t even be talking about this.
SbWillie 03-14-09, 01:45 PM time to turn in JBL! ;)
time to turn in JBL! ;)
i'll alert the authorities
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f68/subwooferz/clouseau.jpg
JBLsound4645 03-14-09, 02:59 PM i'll alert the authorities
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f68/subwooferz/clouseau.jpg
Yeah by around the time the DVD is official I’d run out and buy the new realise and hide the other RAMBO III DVD. LOL :D
Peter Sellers, priceless, not sure how Steve Martin, is filling his shoes, as “Jacques Clouseau” he’s a good comedian no doubt about that.
hoopsrgreat 03-14-09, 06:16 PM I think so far for me, the scene in Ironman where he is in the caves early in the movie is the best scene Ive watched for awesome bass effects. When Ironman comes to life is awesome.
When the scene has shifted outside the cave, and Ironman is walking to the cave entrance (you dont see him) but you da.. sure feel him, that is awesome.
croseiv 03-14-09, 07:30 PM I think so far for me, the scene in Ironman where he is in the caves early in the movie is the best scene Ive watched for awesome bass effects. When Ironman comes to life is awesome.
When the scene has shifted outside the cave, and Ironman is walking to the cave entrance (you dont see him) but you da.. sure feel him, that is awesome.
Yeah, this is a great scene, and when he first goes supersonic (sonic boom) and that Jericho missle explodes...
theelviscerator 03-15-09, 09:46 PM Just watched the movie WAR with Jet Li and Jason Statham...thought it was pretty bassy......well worth a watch too..
bgillyjcu 03-16-09, 10:08 PM Hell Boy II has to be 5 stars.
My god this movie was shaking the house with LFE from 10hz up to 80hz!
Impressive as any in my opinion!
PS...I remember reading somewhere about a new release coming out that is recorded really HOT and that we need to be careful when viewing.
I totally forget which one though....any help???
There's been some talk of Transporter 3 being hot.
OvalNut 03-16-09, 11:02 PM Transporter 3 was hot with very good LFE, but really only relatively so. Not extreme as compared to some like WOTW or Hulk, etc...
Tim
HappyHourIB 03-18-09, 03:12 AM Maybe I am crazy but I just got done watching "Let the Right One in" and it some really nice bass in some scenes. Especially when the first guy gets attacked under the bridge. Made my EP2500 clip light come on for a second. That has only happened during the DK chase scene before! I would love to see a waterfall for that! Amazing movie to, you have to watch it with sub titles though. Really makes it a more powerful movie when its not the rainbow and lollipop voice overs.
DevilDog151 03-18-09, 01:16 PM Just watched Punisher :war zone and wow does this movie have bass. It gets my vote for Bass movie of the month for sure.
Mrkazador 03-18-09, 01:24 PM Just watched Punisher :war zone and wow does this movie have bass. It gets my vote for Bass movie of the month for sure.
Seen it recently too. Lots of 30hz bass throughout the movie...
Mrkazador 03-19-09, 01:49 PM Let the Right One In AC3 http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/3.5stars.gif
Lots of good 30hz bass in this movie. Most of it is like the first screenshot.
00:03:00
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00:24:06
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01:07:39
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01:10:50
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HappyHourIB 03-20-09, 01:09 AM Thanks for the waterfalls on Let the right one in! I know it really shook the IB. Great movie to! The bass sneaks up on you, my dog freaked out!
croseiv 03-20-09, 10:25 PM Picked up my BD copy of Bolt! Looking forward to this one. AVS review gave it 100 rating (reference quality). Can't watch until tomorrow though as I'm out of town and away from my set.
Mrkazador 03-21-09, 05:10 PM Finished watching Bolt. The bass in the movie was really good, especially the intro. I couldn't stand Miley and John's voice, very annoying...
I'll post some waterfalls later.
Mrkazador 03-21-09, 06:18 PM Bolt DTS http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4stars.gif
There was too much to plot in the intro, just imagine 8min of 20-30hz goodness.
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croseiv 03-22-09, 12:44 PM Bolt=great movie+great LFE(still deciding on my personal ranking). The opening sequences were stellar. Also when the helium tank causes the sign to fall over at the dog pound and the truck explodes. Going to watch it again to day (with the MV a little higher:)).
Mrkazador 03-22-09, 02:49 PM I'm going to start rating the waterfalls I post. I thought Bolt was a good solid 4 stars, maybe 4.5, I'm not really sure...The intro was amazing.
bgillyjcu 03-23-09, 08:18 PM Any Transporter 3 waterfalls?
When the first guy blows up in the ambulance....I hit 117db uncorrected. I'd love to see that waterfall.
I even played it back with speakers off and it was clean as can be and I honestly think the Ultra had a lot more left in the tank!
Any Transporter 3 waterfalls?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16019683#post16019683
HappyHourIB 03-24-09, 03:33 AM Bolt is on it's way to my house now! I will be watching it nice and loud while the wife is at work. Nice! Looking forward to seeing this one.
Gelinas 03-24-09, 05:08 PM Bolt=great movie+great LFE(still deciding on my personal ranking). The opening sequences were stellar. Also when the helium tank causes the sign to fall over at the dog pound and the truck explodes. Going to watch it again to day (with the MV a little higher:)).
So how did it compare to KFP?
croseiv 03-24-09, 05:36 PM So how did it compare to KFP?
I'd give the edge to KFP. Mainly because of the "explosiveness" of the LFE in that movie. Bolt has some good LFE too, but it didn't make me go WOW like Kung Fu Panda did. Maybe I've become a little jaded....:) But the movie (Bolt) was great! The opening eight/ten minutes is awesome.
Gelinas 03-25-09, 08:05 AM I'd give the edge to KFP. Mainly because of the "explosiveness" of the LFE in that movie. Bolt has some good LFE too, but it didn't make me go WOW like Kung Fu Panda did. Maybe I've become a little jaded....:) But the movie (Bolt) was great! The opening eight/ten minutes is awesome.
I'm not surprised by that. At this point I'd estimate that I've seen about 25 blu-rays and Kung Fu Panda is the best so far. It has had the best picture quality, surround sound, clean and deep LFE, and a good story that keeps me interested from beginning to end. With that said, I am looking forward to when Netflix ships Bolt my way. You gotta love the instant gratification of great bass in the first few minutes of a movie without having to wait/seek out the good parts.
Just finished watching Bolt. I would say it was comparable to KFP and worthy of about 4 - 4.5 stars.
I also just watched Quantum of Solace and would say it was as good as Casino Royale. I would give it 4 stars. I liked that the plot/story line was a continuation of Casino Royale.
Helmutz88 03-25-09, 07:31 PM Quantum of Solace had the makings of a great story line, but kinda sucked. Watched, After Reading This Burn It or whatever it was called, waste of time..
Finally got a chance to watch the last Brendan Fraser Mummy movie, Tomb of the Emperor er something..that movie sucked but the sound from start to finish was pretty insane. 5-6 scenes that totally belted it out.
counsil 03-27-09, 12:49 PM Has anyone seen Bolt yet? Does it have any good bass in it? I was thinking about buying it for the kids if it was any good (any bass in it)!
SbWillie 03-27-09, 01:05 PM Has anyone seen Bolt yet? Does it have any good bass in it? I was thinking about buying it for the kids if it was any good (any bass in it)!
someone hasn't read the last two pages apparently:p
counsil 03-27-09, 01:15 PM someone hasn't read the last two pages apparently:p
You're right. I totally missed it. I haven't been in this thread for a week or so. I thought I had read all of the posts, but I guess I didn't read the last couple of pages. My bad.
landshark1 03-27-09, 01:29 PM I was really interested 'bout Bolt. but due to you guys recommendation, I'm gonna put it in my Netflix queue now!! I'll be happy if it's anywhere near KFP.
on the other hand, the picture quality of the Quantum of Solace is really top notch! definitely picture reference material!! however, I'm a bit disappointed 'bout the sound tho.... not as big/deep bass as one would expect from a top action movie.....
Helmutz88 03-27-09, 06:10 PM First, KFP had next to no bass at all, great show.
Quantum of Solace, had a great picture transfer, movie & sound both sucked.
Bolt, deserves all of it's 100 Audio Rating. This movie for sound is a 5 star movie, there is more intense volume in the first ten minutes of this show than KFP had in total, easily.
Bolt will be referred along with the Hulk, Cloverfield, and Hitman to name a few. Enjoy.
SbWillie 03-27-09, 06:40 PM KFP had no bass?????HAHA
First, KFP had next to no bass at all.
Sure it does. It may not be constant through the whole movie, but it's definitely got some good spots.
Helmutz88 03-27-09, 07:02 PM One real good spot for sure, but the rest i just didn't think had monster bass, that's all. Not cutting down the movie. I wish all animation thumped like Bolt, that's all.
digital desire 03-27-09, 08:29 PM Bolt for the win!!!!
Makes the hairs on your head need a comb!
Mrkazador 03-27-09, 08:42 PM Here is the intro to Bolt.
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The picture is 2.40mb!
lfe man 03-27-09, 10:06 PM Horton hears who was pretty sick. Lots of 10-40hz bass there and that ice age short was nice too(that sliding mountains scene:eek:).
sourbeef 03-29-09, 12:08 PM First, KFP had next to no bass at all, great show.
Quantum of Solace, had a great picture transfer, movie & sound both sucked.
Bolt, deserves all of it's 100 Audio Rating. This movie for sound is a 5 star movie, there is more intense volume in the first ten minutes of this show than KFP had in total, easily.
Bolt will be referred along with the Hulk, Cloverfield, and Hitman to name a few. Enjoy.
:confused::rolleyes:
D.T.MIKE 03-29-09, 09:40 PM Anybody else here watch City Of Ember yet? Curious what the graphs would show several scenes hit pretty good.
SbWillie 03-29-09, 09:40 PM Has anyone seen Bolt yet? Does it have any good bass in it? I was thinking about buying it for the kids if it was any good (any bass in it)!Ther's a $10 off coupon online right now for the BR(BR+dvd+digital!) Great deal! :D Yes it has bass!
shmup-o 03-30-09, 05:23 PM My sub (crappy HTIB) can't handle the Bolt BD, but seemed just fine with the M&C DVD and WotW DVD. The only difference between the two (Bolt vs M&C/WotW) is a new AVR and DVD/BD.
Is the audio goodness of BD causing my sub to crap/bottom out? Or is it the new AVR?
counsil 03-30-09, 06:29 PM One real good spot for sure, but the rest i just didn't think had monster bass, that's all. Not cutting down the movie. I wish all animation thumped like Bolt, that's all.
I agree... KFP has the skadoosh and bridge scenes, but Bolt on the other hand, has 10 minutes of constant bass thumping action. This movie gave my PB13 Ultra a work-out. And yes, there is a $10 off coupon from Disney floating around. I downloaded the coupon from fatwallet and used it at BestBuy. I would not have purchased the movie without. $25-$35 for a blu-ray is crazy, IMO.
Helmutz88 03-30-09, 09:26 PM I haven't seen the Horton Who yet, was too expensive still here, on the Top list for sure.
Ya the first ten minutes of Bolt when you watch it the first time loud can make a person clutch the couch :)..
Another kool scene was when the helicopter blades were going in slow motion, the air my subs pushed out was crazy for that.
If your bored and haven't watched Serenity in BR yet, it's worth one watch loud. Show was so so but it gave my system a very healthy workout.
JBLsound4645 03-31-09, 02:10 AM I agree... KFP has the skadoosh and bridge scenes, but Bolt on the other hand, has 10 minutes of constant bass thumping action.
10 minutes, no thanks I could just barely stand Earthquake the big one chapter 8 for 8 minutes and that was flipping LOUD!
I still haven’t showed any interest what so ever in Kentucky Fried Panda KFP, not interested. I’d sooner watch Jack Black, getting riveted perforated in The Jackal 1997.:D
theelviscerator 04-01-09, 12:32 AM Watched 3:10 to Yuma tonite on blu ray.....meh......the only good scene really was the train pulling up....
croseiv 04-01-09, 08:55 PM but Bolt on the other hand, has 10 minutes of constant bass thumping action. .
I would say that most Bolt's LFE occurs primarily in the first ten minutes of the movie. However, it's not constant during that time (but it is impressive). Kung Fu Panda easily has has much LFE, it's just spread out more throughout the movie.
sourbeef 04-02-09, 02:30 PM I would say that most Bolt's LFE occurs primarily in the first ten minutes of the movie. However, it's not constant during that time (but it is impressive). Kung Fu Panda easily has has much LFE, it's just spread out more throughout the movie.
So does Bolt get disappointingly quiet after those first 10 minutes or are there other good scenes scattered about?
counsil 04-02-09, 04:41 PM So does Bolt get disappointingly quiet after those first 10 minutes or are there other good scenes scattered about?
Similiar to KFP, Bolt had enough bass scenes spread throughout the movie that it held my interest. I have only watched the movie once, so I can't comment much further.
croseiv 04-02-09, 04:52 PM So does Bolt get disappointingly quiet after those first 10 minutes or are there other good scenes scattered about?
In Bolt, the majority of LFE is in the first ten minutes with a few addtional scenes later in the movie. I remember being somewhat disappointed after the intial ten minutes was over.
Hector.B 04-02-09, 07:46 PM insanely sick bass in Transporter 3!!! when the car comes crashing into Frank's house...HOLY SH*T!
croseiv 04-02-09, 08:45 PM So does Bolt get disappointingly quiet after those first 10 minutes or are there other good scenes scattered about?
In Bolt, the majority of LFE is in the first ten minutes with a few addtional scenes later in the movie. I remember being somewhat disappointed after the intial ten minutes was over.
But there are some pretty cool scenes. I like when Penny rolls a penny (about 20 minutes in). Also when the tanks blow up later in the movie.
Over all I'd rate Bolt and KFP as roughly equal. I like both movies very much.
Vexthem 04-03-09, 01:59 AM I have been trying to figure out the frequency (and dB level) of a subtle audio effect in the movie Serenity. Chap 6, between the Fruity Oaty Bar Song and when River starts beatin' on folks (approximately between 34:20 and 34:30) there are two heart beats. It *should* be in the silence just before River whispers "Miranda".
About a year ago I was demoing speakers and at the first place I went to I heard the heart beats for the first and only time. Unfortunately, the demo guy messed up on the touch-screen thing and was not sure what speakers and/or subs he had used. At the time I figured no biggy, because I had several more stores and systems to demo and would certainly hear it again. I did not. It might have been Klipsch RF-83s and maybe a sub.
I tried to figure out how to waterfall that section to see if I could determine the frequency, etc. But I don't think I had a good setup (computer) nor experience with the software to do an accurate waterfall and since I can't hear it on any gear I have I can't be sure of what I'm waterfalling. If you can hear it and waterfall those heart beats to determine exact timestamp, frequency, and volume - it would be greatly appreciated.
A few people have claimed that they can hear the heart beats on a laptop or low end system - and that may be the case, but very few people seem to be able to hear this. If you can hear it on your system(s), could you please post or PM me with what amp/avr, speakers, and sub(s) you have.
Thanks in advance.
JBLsound4645 04-03-09, 06:38 AM A few people have claimed that they can hear the heart beats on a laptop or low end system - and that may be the case, but very few people seem to be able to hear this. If you can hear it on your system(s), could you please post or PM me with what amp/avr, speakers, and sub(s) you have.
Hmm!?
Try the following and no I’m not interested at the moment in doing enhanced independent frequency waterfalls of.
Alien (1979)
Aliens (1986)
Alien VS Predator (2004)
The Perfect Storm (2000)
Underworld 2 (2006) I think there’s one in Underworld (2003)?
I think, Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan (1982) when Khannn, Khannn, Khannn sticks the creatures in the ears! The heavy heart-beating sound very creepy.
I’d have to look at the DVD laserdisc titles to see how many more there are, but the above! hold on!
InnerSpace (1987)
Gremlins (1984)
Yeah I still have the magic the golden ear.
That list should keep you busy for a month or two.
Star Trek V the Final Frontier (1989) as HUGE DEEP heart-beat as it was in my face at the EMPIRE Leicester Square in THX!
I believe Terminator 3 (2003) has one as well.
JBL,
Did you even bother to read what Vexthem's question was?
"I have been trying to figure out the frequency (and dB level) of a subtle audio effect in the movie Serenity. Chap 6, between the Fruity Oaty Bar Song and when River starts beatin' on folks (approximately between 34:20 and 34:30) there are two heart beats. It *should* be in the silence just before River whispers "Miranda". "
He's asking about a specific event in a specific movie. There are a ton of random old movies with heart beat sounds in them. Great. :rolleyes: This helps him how?
Vexthem,
I've got that movie on the way from Netflix so I'll let you know what I hear. I'm not set-up to do the waterfalls right now.
Helmutz88 04-03-09, 02:08 PM I have it..they is no heartbeat during her pause or after she says Miranda..there is a volume buildup but it is not a heartbeat.
JBLsound4645 04-03-09, 02:23 PM JBL,
Did you even bother to read what Vexthem's question was?
"I have been trying to figure out the frequency (and dB level) of a subtle audio effect in the movie Serenity. Chap 6, between the Fruity Oaty Bar Song and when River starts beatin' on folks (approximately between 34:20 and 34:30) there are two heart beats. It *should* be in the silence just before River whispers "Miranda". "
He's asking about a specific event in a specific movie. There are a ton of random old movies with heart beat sounds in them. Great. :rolleyes: This helps him how?
Vexthem,
I've got that movie on the way from Netflix so I'll let you know what I hear. I'm not set-up to do the waterfalls right now.
I had something in my eye must be some cat fur? Well you’ve got to look ahead or maybe he only obsessed with one film, aren’t we all.:rolleyes::D
Vexthem 04-03-09, 05:49 PM Hey guys it will be interesting to learn what you find out. The fact that I can't hear this bugs the hell out of me - seems like a major weakness in my system - makes me wonder what else I'm missing.
JBL... - I was like "What the...". I am just interested in that one section of that one movie, because as far as I can tell that little bit of (presumed) subtle bass is very hard for almost all systems to reproduce. Once I can figure out what the content *actually* is and what components are capable of reproducing it, then maybe I can figure out how to make sure my system can reproduce it.
Ricci - Thanks, can't wait to see what you learn.
Helmutz88 - What I heard was a distinct slow motion heart beat - "thump....thump", like a single full heart beat. It was pretty quiet from what I can recall. It was very subtle - I think perhaps it is very weak low frequency, which perhaps most systems just can't produce - too geared towards slam. Maybe I need to add an 8" sealed sub to my system or something ;-) I think it was after the sound builds and goes quiet just before the whisper.
Now I'm all interested in watching Serenity for the first time at least. :)
JBLsound4645 04-04-09, 05:41 AM Hey guys it will be interesting to learn what you find out. The fact that I can't hear this bugs the hell out of me - seems like a major weakness in my system - makes me wonder what else I'm missing.
JBL... - I was like "What the...". I am just interested in that one section of that one movie, because as far as I can tell that little bit of (presumed) subtle bass is very hard for almost all systems to reproduce. Once I can figure out what the content *actually* is and what components are capable of reproducing it, then maybe I can figure out how to make sure my system can reproduce it.
Ricci - Thanks, can't wait to see what you learn.
Helmutz88 - What I heard was a distinct slow motion heart beat - "thump....thump", like a single full heart beat. It was pretty quiet from what I can recall. It was very subtle - I think perhaps it is very weak low frequency, which perhaps most systems just can't produce - too geared towards slam. Maybe I need to add an 8" sealed sub to my system or something ;-) I think it was after the sound builds and goes quiet just before the whisper.
LOL its bugging him! LOL:D
Hmmm?
What channel is it ON?
Left
Centre
Right
Left/surround
Right/surround
LFE.1
???
You’ll have to upload spectrumlab don’t be afraid it wont bite you. Just takes a few hours or days to get used.
I watched it last night and heard nothing although at moderate volume...-20 or so. I have twin Def tech SCII's subs that are sealed but don't go real low.
Hey guys it will be interesting to learn what you find out. The fact that I can't hear this bugs the hell out of me - seems like a major weakness in my system - makes me wonder what else I'm missing.
JBL... - I was like "What the...". I am just interested in that one section of that one movie, because as far as I can tell that little bit of (presumed) subtle bass is very hard for almost all systems to reproduce. Once I can figure out what the content *actually* is and what components are capable of reproducing it, then maybe I can figure out how to make sure my system can reproduce it.
Ricci - Thanks, can't wait to see what you learn.
Helmutz88 - What I heard was a distinct slow motion heart beat - "thump....thump", like a single full heart beat. It was pretty quiet from what I can recall. It was very subtle - I think perhaps it is very weak low frequency, which perhaps most systems just can't produce - too geared towards slam. Maybe I need to add an 8" sealed sub to my system or something ;-) I think it was after the sound builds and goes quiet just before the whisper.
Hector.B 04-04-09, 08:21 AM presumably it shouldnt matter which format Serenity is on to check for this heartbeat right? if not I can check today with my hd-dvd. I hv a HSU vtf 2.3 sub it goes down to 18hz...i'll let u know later today.
croseiv 04-04-09, 08:44 AM Now I'm all interested in watching Serenity for the first time at least. :)
Yeah! Me too!:D
Vexthem 04-04-09, 10:16 AM presumably it shouldnt matter which format Serenity is on to check for this heartbeat right? if not I can check today with my hd-dvd. I hv a HSU vtf 2.3 sub it goes down to 18hz...i'll let u know later today.
I have Serenity in three versions: DVD (DD 5.1), DVD CE (DD 5.1, DTS 5.1), and HD-DVD (DD Plus 5.1). I have listened to all 4 audio tracks at home an dnever heard the heart beats. I am 99% sure that I was demoing with the standard DVD and therefore DD 5.1 sound track.
I currently have a Def Tech SC Ref (no clue what its real performance is) and Butt Kickers. I should be good down to 5 Hz, but probably/obviously not for subtle stuff...
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For those that don't know - Serenity is based on the Firefly TV series. Basically Firefly got cancelled and I've heard that Serenity is an ultra compressed version of the season 2 plot line that never came to be. Firefly is my favorite TV series of all time. Others that I like a lot are Battlestar Galactica (new), Stargate SG-1, Heroes (at least season 1, so far), The Unit, and Terminator is pretty good.
Helmutz88 04-04-09, 10:21 AM Anyone hear the heartbeat yet ? Mine is in DTS, i cranked it, and still no heartbeats.
croseiv 04-04-09, 10:28 AM I'm wondering if this may have been some sort of artifact at the demo?
lfe man 04-04-09, 01:54 PM I'm wondering if this may have been some sort of artifact at the demo?
Possibly vexthem own heartbeats in that thrilling demo situation.:D
Possibly vexthem own heartbeats in that thrilling demo situation.:D
LOL!:p
Vexthem 04-04-09, 04:03 PM Not quite LOL for me, but made my cheeks hurt from grinning too hard and too much - what would that be? MMCH? I don't think it was static or noise at the demo, because it was so perfect in timing and tone, everything. And I know it was not my heart going pitter patter, pricey toys, pitter patter, because I have a witness :-) Also, a few other people claim to have heard it seperately. I guess whatever combo of speakers were used could just happen to overemphasize some freq. that most others are a tad lacking in? I don't know, hence my obsession and pleas for assistance.
lfe man 04-04-09, 07:14 PM I cant believe that i went in rainy weather and purchased this movie in the nearest videostore today. I did get some flashbacks when i searched that miranda scene and recalled how bad this movie was in all(especially that main villain sucked IMO), well at least there is some good bass and visuals.:cool:
And no heartbeats in that miranda scene here either.:confused:
SbWillie 04-04-09, 09:20 PM This will sound crazy but there's actually a pretty bassy scene in THE APPLE DUMPLING GANG (mine collapse)!
YES I said Apple Dumpling Gang!!
I just watched "Horton, hears a who!". The bass in the movie was good and had its moments, but I was expecting a bit more.
Just watched Serenity and yes there are 2 heartbeats that are low in volume when River is staring at the screen before she says Miranda and opens up a can on the whole place. I was listening at -15, DD 5.1 on a Netflix DVD and my listening room is not the quietest around. I have a pretty high level of background noise compared to some.
I could see where you would miss it if you weren't listening for it.
Vexthem 04-05-09, 10:59 PM Awesome Ricci, now I have two (credible) witnesses :-) Can you determine the exact timestamp of the heart beats? It must be 1 or 2 seconds max. Once we have the exact timestamp, then I and/or others can waterfall it to identify the frequency and level of them. If you have the time and inclination can you figure out what channels the heart beats are on?
I just went and listened to the scene a 1/2 dozen more times and could not hear them.
Also would you mind posting or PMing me your amp, speakers, and sub line-up?
Will do. I'm sure that I heard them. It was subtle to say the least. I just let the movie play on because it wasn't just me watching and it was our first time viewing. I'll give it another listen later this week and get a time stamp. I couldn't really tell if it was mostly a bass effect, fullrange or midbass centered. Maybe I'll see if I can hear it on my other systems too.
System used isn't anything real special...
Sony PS3
Outlaw 950
5, B2031A, active bi-amp studio monitors
18" RE XXX , 25cu ft ported to 11hz, bridged Crown CE4000
ccarzoo 04-06-09, 02:25 PM Wow, I am in the middle of The Day the Earth Stood Still, and 24 minutes or so into it, the bass is awesome. I haven't gotten to the big shake yet, but I will report back when I do.
allredp 04-06-09, 03:53 PM System used isn't anything real special...
Sony PS3
Outlaw 950
5, B2031A, active bi-amp studio monitors
18" RE XXX , 25cu ft ported to 11hz, bridged Crown CE4000
:rolleyes: That's a very nice system actually!
:)
MKtheater 04-06-09, 06:01 PM Not to complicate the rating system but we should have 2 separate categories for bass. Quality and quantity. For example I finally watched KFP at reference levels and would rate it as a 5 for quality and 4 for quantity. That skadoosh reproduced 126 db's with some of the best(clean) 20-30 hz bass I have heard. In contrast I would rate WOTW a 4-4.5(Have to give props to the very low stuff) for quality and a 5 for quantity. Cloverfield would get a 4 for quality(saved by some very low frequencies) and a 5 for quantity. The Dark Night would get 5 for quality and 4.5 for quantity. Just a suggestion and my opinion.
allredp 04-06-09, 06:18 PM Not to complicate the rating system but we should have 2 separate categories for bass. Quality and quantity. Just a suggestion and my opinion.
+1--that would be helpful to me in looking at movies--good idea!
SlowcarIX 04-06-09, 06:49 PM Wow, I am in the middle of The Day the Earth Stood Still, and 24 minutes or so into it, the bass is awesome. I haven't gotten to the big shake yet, but I will report back when I do.
been waiting for 4.5hrs for your feedback...
did you....:eek:
http://www.claudialynch.com/images/katrina.nofront.jpg
lfe man 04-06-09, 06:50 PM I did check that serenity silent stare scene, until that chick says miranda with spectrum lab and could not find any sounds(not even faint) at 0-1837hz(spectrum lab max hz) range. Dvd was region 2 with DD5.1 sound.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned "Deception". Not a ton of bass, as it's not an action flick, but it's noticeable because it has some very low frequencies at some unexpected places. The scene where Hugh Jackman appears in Ewan McGregor's bedroom has some fairly high intensity infrasonics (I would guess centered around 11hz or so). It's one of the few cases when the shakers seem "gimmicky", because there's nothing going on on-screen to warrant having the whole room shake. Apparently they must be going for the "feeling of dread" psychological effect of infrasonics. But instead, it seemed almost comical, as if someone had just put a quarter in the sofa. Would have been more appropriate during one of the sex scenes. :rolleyes:
sourbeef 04-06-09, 09:26 PM Dudes, WALL-E in blu-ray disc is on sale at amazon for 14.99! This has some decent bass throughout. Totally disagree with its rating on this thread.
SbWillie 04-06-09, 09:28 PM Not to complicate the rating system but we should have 2 separate categories for bass. Quality and quantity. For example I finally watched KFP at reference levels and would rate it as a 5 for quality and 4 for quantity. That skadoosh reproduced 126 db's with some of the best(clean) 20-30 hz bass I have heard. In contrast I would rate WOTW a 4-4.5(Have to give props to the very low stuff) for quality and a 5 for quantity. Cloverfield would get a 4 for quality(saved by some very low frequencies) and a 5 for quantity. The Dark Night would get 5 for quality and 4.5 for quantity. Just a suggestion and my opinion.that sound u heard was the sound of dr. Pain hitting the floor! :eek::p:rolleyes:
Helmutz88 04-06-09, 09:35 PM Not to complicate the rating system but we should have 2 separate categories for bass. Quality and quantity. For example I finally watched KFP at reference levels and would rate it as a 5 for quality and 4 for quantity. That skadoosh reproduced 126 db's with some of the best(clean) 20-30 hz bass I have heard. In contrast I would rate WOTW a 4-4.5(Have to give props to the very low stuff) for quality and a 5 for quantity. Cloverfield would get a 4 for quality(saved by some very low frequencies) and a 5 for quantity. The Dark Night would get 5 for quality and 4.5 for quantity. Just a suggestion and my opinion.
Start us up a new one chief.
Have one for the 5 star called, Just Nasty From Start To Finish..e.g. The Hulk
Dudes, WALL-E in blu-ray disc is on sale at amazon for 14.99! This has some decent bass throughout. Totally disagree with its rating on this thread.
I have to agree that it has gotten somewhat of a bum rap. I watched it in December when I was in the middle of re-doing my sub. I heard it had so little bass that I figured nothing lost watching it while my system was crippled (I saved some of the movies with better rated soundtracks until everything was put back together). I just re-watched this over the weekend because a friend hadn't seen it, and I agree... it's not "devoid of bass" like some make it out to be.
I did check that serenity silent stare scene, until that chick says miranda with spectrum lab and could not find any sounds(not even faint) at 0-1837hz(spectrum lab max hz) range. Dvd was region 2 with DD5.1 sound.
Strange...I just specifically checked that scene again multiple times to see if it really is there on my other system and there was nothing. I even tried it at all the way up to +5db. Nothing... I was sure that I heard something before, but it doesn't appear to be there.:o I guess it really was my own heartbeat combined with the power of suggestion...The shame...
Slumdog millionaire had tons of bass. On top of that it's a great movie!
kciaccio 04-06-09, 11:12 PM Not a movie, but the new Transformers movie trailer has serious bass!
ccarzoo 04-06-09, 11:16 PM been waiting for 4.5hrs for your feedback...
did you....:eek:
http://www.claudialynch.com/images/katrina.nofront.jpg
The scene that he described at 56 minutes or so, was not very special at all. The beginning was earth shattering though. Very ominous and deep for a few minutes.
J_Palmer_Cass 04-07-09, 04:37 AM Not to complicate the rating system but we should have 2 separate categories for bass. Quality and quantity. For example I finally watched KFP at reference levels and would rate it as a 5 for quality and 4 for quantity. That skadoosh reproduced 126 db's with some of the best(clean) 20-30 hz bass I have heard. In contrast I would rate WOTW a 4-4.5(Have to give props to the very low stuff) for quality and a 5 for quantity. Cloverfield would get a 4 for quality(saved by some very low frequencies) and a 5 for quantity. The Dark Night would get 5 for quality and 4.5 for quantity. Just a suggestion and my opinion.
You do realize that the skadoosh scene being reproduced at 126 dBs is not what was intended by the makers of the movie. That a playback level that is well above any reference playback level.
Two categories for bass would be great.
Category 1 = Quality and Quantity of Bass
Category 2 = Quality of Movie. Thumbs up or down!
If the movie is not a good one, who cares about the bass? If the movie is a bore it just does not matter how "good" the bass is!
SbWillie 04-07-09, 08:09 AM Not a movie, but the new Transformers movie trailer has serious bass!
It should with it having the Constructicons in it!:D
Slumdog millionaire had tons of bass. On top of that it's a great movie!
Agre 100%..had one of the most satisfying endings since Shawshank IMHO! What kids will do for an autograph....sigh.
Helmutz88 04-07-09, 08:39 AM Silly quesiton...i was watching Underworld in bluray last night, it offerered Uncompressed and compressed. Why was compressed sounding so much better ? Kate Beckingsale is so yummy.
Gelinas 04-07-09, 08:47 AM What kids will do for an autograph....sigh.
HAHA!
I just watched this weekend, but I did not watch it at home and the house I saw it at did not have a subwoofer. Are you guys telling me I missed out on some satisfying bass?
i was watching Underworld in bluray last night, it offerered Uncompressed and compressed. Why was compressed sounding so much better ?
Compressed can sound better than uncompressed if it's from a better source. The most likely reason for this to happen on blu-ray is if we're talking about lossless in both cases, and the bit depth on the compressed is higher (like 16 bit uncompressed lossless vs. 24 bit compressed lossless). If the original source is 24 bit, and it was downrezzed to 16 bit for the uncompressed track, while the losseless compressed track retained the original bit depth, then the "compressed" soundtrack can have more dynamic range (counter to what the verbiage would suggest). In the case of DTS MA and Dolby TrueHD, the compression is a lossless compression which means once the data is uncompressed, it's exactly the same as it was before it was compressed (unlike standard DD or DTS, or MP3 or MPEG, etc.). Think of them as zip files. There can be cases where the extra space efficiency is used to allow a higher bitrate source.
MKtheater 04-07-09, 03:13 PM You do realize that the skadoosh scene being reproduced at 126 dBs is not what was intended by the makers of the movie. That a playback level that is well above any reference playback level.
Two categories for bass would be great.
Category 1 = Quality and Quantity of Bass
Category 2 = Quality of Movie. Thumbs up or down!
If the movie is not a good one, who cares about the bass? If the movie is a bore it just does not matter how "good" the bass is!
Yes I do. I can turn it down but these levels are awesome, I built the room for it.
Bolt...the first ten minutes, I thought I was on a amusement ride. After that, a few more low scenes but not that intense in duration.
Patdeisa 04-07-09, 07:34 PM Strange...I just specifically checked that scene again multiple times to see if it really is there on my other system and there was nothing. I even tried it at all the way up to +5db. Nothing... I was sure that I heard something before, but it doesn't appear to be there.:o I guess it really was my own heartbeat combined with the power of suggestion...The shame...
I just spent 20 minutes blasting my PB10 while listening in my typical LP and in places where there are peaks. :D In my LP at Ref -10dB, I could not hear any heart beats. However, if I move to one of the nodes near a corner, I could hear what sounded like heart beats. However, I tried again while lightly touching the driver, and the driver completely stops in the quiet part. The final test I ran was with a RS sound meter. I was getting about 102 dBs @ 1 meter right before the silent section, then two decreasing plateaus as the volume went down at the beginning of staring section- the first to 68 dB, the second to 52 dB (tested multiple times on various settings to allow for the large difference in volumes).
With the two different sets of data (one by touch, the other by meter) I can say that there is some low frequency sound in my room. However, I want to attribute it to the room versus actual information coming from the sub. With those volumes, the walls are definitely shaking and some of that energy is put back into the room after the sudden halt to the white noise (lots of low frequency included) in the scene. I think that's where the heart beat sound comes from. My room isn't completely sealed, so the rest of the basement could be supplying the echo as well.
However, it's too bad there is no actual heart beat there- it would be a great affect!
sourbeef 04-07-09, 08:17 PM Madagascar Escape 2 Africa.
Does anyone know if the bass is worth it in this movie? It is right now on sale at amazon for 14.99 blu-ray.
Helmutz88 04-07-09, 09:07 PM Thanks Darin for the explanation.
Vexthem 04-07-09, 09:19 PM I just spent 20 minutes blasting my PB10 while listening in my typical LP and in places where there are peaks. :D In my LP at Ref -10dB, I could not hear any heart beats. However, if I move to one of the nodes near a corner, I could hear what sounded like heart beats. However, I tried again while lightly touching the driver, and the driver completely stops in the quiet part. The final test I ran was with a RS sound meter. I was getting about 102 dBs @ 1 meter right before the silent section, then two decreasing plateaus as the volume went down at the beginning of staring section- the first to 68 dB, the second to 52 dB (tested multiple times on various settings to allow for the large difference in volumes).
With the two different sets of data (one by touch, the other by meter) I can say that there is some low frequency sound in my room. However, I want to attribute it to the room versus actual information coming from the sub. With those volumes, the walls are definitely shaking and some of that energy is put back into the room after the sudden halt to the white noise (lots of low frequency included) in the scene. I think that's where the heart beat sound comes from. My room isn't completely sealed, so the rest of the basement could be supplying the echo as well.
However, it's too bad there is no actual heart beat there- it would be a great affect!
Wow, cool, thanks for going to that extent. I still believe they are there. I want to learn more about the waterfall software and see if I get real specific on parameters I can discover something. Also, I will probably have a new sub in a few weeks, so maybe a better sub backing up my current sub will releave something. I also will have to try playing it loud and playing it soft to see if that releaves anything. I just find it real hard ot believe that it was an aboration.
Madagascar Escape 2 Africa.
Does anyone know if the bass is worth it in this movie? It is right now on sale at amazon for 14.99 blu-ray.
It's a good movie for the kids but had little to no bass throughout. Very similar to the first one. Very disappointing when it comes to bass.
sourbeef 04-07-09, 09:36 PM It's a good movie for the kids but had little to no bass throughout. Very similar to the first one. Very disappointing when it comes to bass.
OK thanks, I will save my money then.
lfe man 04-07-09, 10:32 PM Wow, cool, thanks for going to that extent. I still believe they are there. I want to learn more about the waterfall software and see if I get real specific on parameters I can discover something. Also, I will probably have a new sub in a few weeks, so maybe a better sub backing up my current sub will releave something. I also will have to try playing it loud and playing it soft to see if that releaves anything. I just find it real hard ot believe that it was an aboration.
Good luck, to find something there.:)
How about some Bolt on SD DVD.:D
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o65/freedombikesusa/blt.jpg
counsil 04-08-09, 01:32 AM How about some Bolt on SD DVD.:D
It only lasts for a half second or so, but that scene really left an impression on me. Thanks for the waterfall.
Sometimes I wish I had my dual Ultras tuned to 15 Hz or 10 Hz so I could really feel the low stuff. I just don't want to give up the headroom for a hand full of bass scenes that could really use it. Although it does seem that the number of movies with this kind of bass is growing by the month these days.
Sometimes I wish I had my dual Ultras tuned to 15 Hz or 10 Hz so I could really feel the low stuff. I just don't want to give up the headroom for a hand full of bass scenes that could really use it. Although it does seem that the number of movies with this kind of bass is growing by the month these days.
it's time for 4 ultras in 10hz tune :D
SbWillie 04-08-09, 08:07 AM good luck posting all the falls 4 `The Day the earth stood still',guys......
and good luck sittting thru that kraupfest movie!!
sourbeef 04-08-09, 06:13 PM good luck posting all the falls 4 `The Day the earth stood still',guys......
and good luck sittting thru that kraupfest movie!!
So are you referring to the one with Keanu Reaves in it, the newer one, not the one from the 50s right?
sourbeef 04-08-09, 08:35 PM Twister has some seriously good bass scenes all through it. I do not see a rating for it here. I would give it 4.5.
Vexthem 04-08-09, 10:13 PM Good luck, to find something there.:)
Thanks. My continuing search is not meant as an affront to your efforts or skills. I wonder if, and hope that, several charts that cover smaller frequency ranges and perhaps smaller dB ranges to reveal more detail might show something definitive.
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Also, what PC DVD software is known to properly decode (and aggregate?) the various multichannel sound formats? Is there software that will handle DD and DTS? Does the sound card matter if you are just feeding the signal to the audio analyzer software? If so, do I need a DD sound card like for gaming?
What is the latest greatest free analyzer software? Is it Spectrumlab as mentioned by JBL...?
SbWillie 04-08-09, 11:10 PM So are you referring to the one with Keanu Reaves in it, the newer one, not the one from the 50s right?
YES, mute the center channel and u might be able to tolerate it!:p
J_Palmer_Cass 04-09-09, 04:45 PM Yes I do. I can turn it down but these levels are awesome, I built the room for it.
I set the bass in my system so that it runs a bit "hot" also. I now find that "older" movies seem to be lacking in the bass department if I do not run the bass a bit "hot". I guess that some of the "recent" movies with heavy bass effects have spoiled us for good!:D
MKtheater 04-09-09, 05:03 PM I set the bass in my system so that it runs a bit "hot" also. I now find that "older" movies seem to be lacking in the bass department if I do not run the bass a bit "hot". I guess that some of the "recent" movies with heavy bass effects have spoiled us for good!:D
That is for sure.
lfe man 04-09-09, 09:23 PM Thanks. My continuing search is not meant as an affront to your efforts or skills. I wonder if, and hope that, several charts that cover smaller frequency ranges and perhaps smaller dB ranges to reveal more detail might show something definitive.
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Also, what PC DVD software is known to properly decode (and aggregate?) the various multichannel sound formats? Is there software that will handle DD and DTS? Does the sound card matter if you are just feeding the signal to the audio analyzer software? If so, do I need a DD sound card like for gaming?
What is the latest greatest free analyzer software? Is it Spectrumlab as mentioned by JBL...?
Spectrumlab is good for low frequency analyze, useless for higher frequencies above 1837hz. I just downloaded TrueRta, looks promising and it can analyze even to 50khz, but then it misses 0-9hz.
Windows media player 9 and interactual player should play just fine those dd/dts tracks and if your soundcard have opt/coac out, dont be worry.:)
Vexthem 04-10-09, 01:43 AM The conversation about the quantity and quality of bass got me thinking...
Does anyone know if there is software that can be set up to calculate the number of seconds of content that is from 0 to say 60 or 80 Hz and above a certain dB level (like 90 or -10, whatever is the proper method of notating such a thing)? It would be pretty neat to be able to take the subjectivity out of it. If the forum supports polls, maybe two polls could be done to determine what Hz and what dB should be used as the threshholds.
Perhaps one variation could use a weighted system where higher levels and lower frequencies get more weight?
Quality of bass would always be a subjective thing, but that is a cool idea too - to have a thread for the cleanest deep bass content.
Twister has some seriously good bass scenes all through it. I do not see a rating for it here. I would give it 4.5.
Yup lots of subsonic.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o65/freedombikesusa/Image1-2.jpg
SbWillie 04-11-09, 03:33 PM what blurred scene is that???
croseiv 04-11-09, 03:54 PM I thought subsonic was < 20Hz. That scene seems to be mostly above 30 Hz. That stuff below 20 is negligible.
Scott Simonian 04-11-09, 06:02 PM what blurred scene is that???
I thought subsonic was < 20Hz. That scene seems to be mostly above 30 Hz. That stuff below 20 is negligible.
I think he was being sarcastic about the 'subsonic' content in that scene. Hehe. Looks to me like the opening F5 which has some pretty strong bass but nothing low. Twister was definitely a movie you could show of in the 90's (talking about subs, atm) but these days there just isn't any of the deep bass we love.
I think he was being sarcastic about the 'subsonic' content in that scene. Hehe. Looks to me like the opening F5 which has some pretty strong bass but nothing low. Twister was definitely a movie you could show of in the 90's (talking about subs, atm) but these days there just isn't any of the deep bass we love.
+1:D That is the opening scene right after her father gets taken into the "suck zone" sorry for the terrible screen cap I just hit it without pausing anything it wasn't worth it...lol.
hoopsrgreat 04-11-09, 09:22 PM I recently got an 18 inch sub for the house and have started playing around with different movies to see what this thing can do. I had a 10 inch synergy prior to this new one.
So i put in Master and Commander and went to the cannon scenes and HOLY S....
I couldnt believe this thing. Walls shaking, pictures visibly moving, the blinds moving. It wasnt so much the sound either, this was stuff that you could feel.
I think I have found my new movie to show off the system.
allredp 04-12-09, 09:31 PM I recently got an 18 inch sub for the house and have started playing around with different movies to see what this thing can do. I had a 10 inch synergy prior to this new one.
So i put in Master and Commander and went to the cannon scenes and HOLY S....
I couldnt believe this thing. Walls shaking, pictures visibly moving, the blinds moving. It wasnt so much the sound either, this was stuff that you could feel.
I think I have found my new movie to show off the system.
So what 18" sub did you get?
Glad you're enjoying it!
I know the joys of great 'subbage' from my Ultra... :D
hoopsrgreat 04-12-09, 09:59 PM I got the ED A7S-450 with the upgraded 1300 watt amp.
Pretty happy with it.
allredp 04-12-09, 11:34 PM Very nice--I'm intrigued by those monsters!
BTW, anyone try Transporter 3? I had to back off my MV by 5-6 clicks because the bass was so hot--in fact, the first trailer (Crank2 I think) was way overblown. Anyone else have that experience? I had the Blu-ray version...
lfe man 04-13-09, 01:27 PM Transformers 3. Where did you get it already?:D:rolleyes:
Transformers 3. Where did you get it already?:D:rolleyes:
i know, i didn't even see 2 yet
maybe he's thinking transporter 3 ?
SbWillie 04-13-09, 01:40 PM call Michael J. Fox...someone went back to the future to see Optimus!
call Michael J. Fox...someone went back to the future to see Optimus!
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f68/subwooferz/future2.jpg
lfe man 04-13-09, 02:09 PM call Michael J. Fox...someone went back to the future to see Optimus!
Or maybe he know john titor.:D
Anyway transformers 2 is gonna be epic.:cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwkW5Ud--08&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hM8RIYAZik&feature=related
this is weird one, you can hear there nice bass sweep in 2:33:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ATE3NKXSZQ&feature=related
sickboy013 04-13-09, 02:12 PM http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f68/subwooferz/future2.jpg
1.21 jigawatts!
allredp 04-13-09, 02:50 PM Transformers 3. Where did you get it already?:D:rolleyes:
I hate being an idiot... :o
At least it spawned some good material for a chuckle. ;)
My question still stands: what was your experience with Transporter 3? My system tells me it was very hot.
Safeezy 04-13-09, 03:05 PM I found Transporter 3 to be hot as well. Especially the ambulance scene when it crashes into the house.
I love the series though!!
allredp 04-13-09, 03:08 PM I found Transporter 3 to be hot as well. Especially the ambulance scene when it crashes into the house.
I love the series though!!
Did you see the trailers at the beginning of the film as well? Seems like those were even more hot!
I have enjoyed the series, too, even though they are way over the top...
lfe man 04-13-09, 03:13 PM I hate being an idiot... :o
At least it spawned some good material for a chuckle. ;)
My question still stands: what was your experience with Transporter 3? My system tells me it was very hot.
Its not yet available here.
I agree there's a nice long thread about transporter 3. There's mythical rumors its recorded 6db hot but i dont buy that. It just simply put awesome bass lol. It should be added to this list somewhere maybe the 4 star mark. But i think kung fu panda was better for bass than transporter 3 so maybe it should only 3.5 stars.
sourbeef 04-13-09, 03:24 PM I hate being an idiot... :o
At least it spawned some good material for a chuckle. ;)
My question still stands: what was your experience with Transporter 3? My system tells me it was very hot.
I just got the blu-ray Transporter 3. It had a lot of heavy bass, but I didn't really back anything off my Ultra subwoofer or at the receiver, I listened to it around -7 from reference. But although I heard an occasional chuff from the Ultra, it never seemed stressed or made any bad noises.
allredp 04-13-09, 03:43 PM I just got the blu-ray Transporter 3. It had a lot of heavy bass, but I didn't really back anything off my Ultra subwoofer or at the receiver, I listened to it around -7 from reference. But although I heard an occasional chuff from the Ultra, it never seemed stressed or made any bad noises.
OK, that helpful. I think I was chuffing my Ultra (15hz tune) it too. However, I backed-off my MV and it was fine--just missed the ability to keep my own "reference" volume.
The movie rates a 3.5-4.0 for me. The lack of great variety of bass knocks it down. There is a lot of impact and explosion-type bass, but not enough of the many other sounds my Ultra is capable of...
Max Payne on BluRay has a good mix of lfe. Especially the gun battles, it's filled with tight bass.
Helmutz88 04-14-09, 02:26 PM Transporter on Blu Ray that i watched was hot as well. The typical explosions pounded hard, for mine i'd say 6-8db higher than most. I like the discs hot personally, i know it's early but the Transformer trailer's look sick. I'm praying that one comes out hot :)
I would agree Transporter should only get 3.5-4...it thumped, just needed more of it.
How was the Max Payne to watch ?
Helmutz88: Max Payne is a must see if you like shoot em type of flicks. The story was ok but I though the picture and audio made it 10 times better. Especially you have dual A5-350's, you would not be disappointing.
Straying away from the movies were referring to right now a little. But Black Hawk Down on blu-ray the uncompressed PCM track. My sub creates very clean and accurate bass on every movie i have watched with it thus far. But i watched this last night and the bass is certainly there no mistaking it and shakes the house violently but isnt it kind of sloppy bass? Compared to all the recently referred to scenes and movies.
croseiv 04-14-09, 06:10 PM Thanks. My continuing search is not meant as an affront to your efforts or skills. I wonder if, and hope that, several charts that cover smaller frequency ranges and perhaps smaller dB ranges to reveal more detail might show something definitive.
-----------
Also, what PC DVD software is known to properly decode (and aggregate?) the various multichannel sound formats? Is there software that will handle DD and DTS? Does the sound card matter if you are just feeding the signal to the audio analyzer software? If so, do I need a DD sound card like for gaming?
What is the latest greatest free analyzer software? Is it Spectrumlab as mentioned by JBL...?
I got wild hair and ordered the Serenity BD from Amazon. Should be in hand tomorrow. I'll report my findings on the LF heart beating....
Safeezy 04-14-09, 09:29 PM Serentity has some nice LFE throughout the movie. The BD shouldn't dissappoint.
Looking forward to the heart beating findings.
Serentity has some nice LFE throughout the movie. The BD shouldn't dissappoint.
Looking forward to the heart beating findings.
There is a recent thread lingering somewhere about that heart beat deal. And they supposedly busted the myth, there was no heart beat. I think a couple of the guys who did it have multiple subs that reach well into the single digit FR while still pushing tripple digit SPL's. So if theyre systems cannot reproduce this heart beat i am not sure what can. But who knows maybe its there and it would take a little tiny 8" sub to hear it. I doubt it but you never know.
Helmutz88 04-15-09, 06:32 PM I own it, there are no heartbeats in Serenity..probably 10 different people tried it and nothing..my listening level for that movie hit around 116 db, and i heard squat and there was no air gushing for that specific few seconds..other than that, very happy i bought it. It pounds throughout the entire show.
I get to watch Max Payne & Punisher back to back..both are supposed to sound very nice...we'll see :)
Man you guys are killing me im going to have to get serenity now on BD. Everytime i see a movie recommended for bass i have to have it lol. Anyone seen spirit yet? I just picked it up today ill let you guys know about it later.
Safeezy 04-15-09, 07:48 PM this site has caused my balance in my checking account to decrease. LOL
sourbeef 04-15-09, 08:09 PM this site has caused my balance in my checking account to decrease. LOL
Amazon.com had a profit in the last quarter of 2008 when a lot of other retailers had a dismal season including Christmas. I know in part it is because of the blu-rays with bass that I have been purchasing lately to play on my SVS Ultra ;)
croseiv 04-15-09, 08:30 PM I own it, there are no heartbeats in Serenity..probably 10 different people tried it and nothing..my listening level for that movie hit around 116 db, and i heard squat and there was no air gushing for that specific few seconds..other than that, very happy i bought it. It pounds throughout the entire show.
I get to watch Max Payne & Punisher back to back..both are supposed to sound very nice...we'll see :)
Just watched the scene in question re heartbeats; none were noted at the indicated time, but there was what I'd describe as low frequency back background pulses. Overall, the movie has some good LFE.
Man you guys are killing me im going to have to get serenity now on BD. Everytime i see a movie recommended for bass i have to have it lol. Anyone seen spirit yet? I just picked it up today ill let you guys know about it later.
Alright watched The Spirit. It definately has a few scenes that will get your attention. Im kind of on the fence about it since i wasnt blown away. But since it has a few scenes that dig really low for a very short period of time it could be a 3 in my book.
Helmutz88 04-16-09, 12:29 AM Max Payne was just that, maximum payne. The last 30 minutes was excellent for sound. The picture on Blu Ray to was excellent, just the acting was so bad. Even Marky Mark couldn't make that a good show. Maybe it's just me, did all of the gun shots sound a little over boomy ? I couldn't go higher than a 3 for that one.
The Punisher for me was a back & forth movie, show was kinda ok, the sound wasn't booming but it was crisp when it needed it..some subtle humor and the blood spats were pretty cool.. maybe 3.5 for me..
Max Payne was just that, maximum payne. The last 30 minutes was excellent for sound. The picture on Blu Ray to was excellent, just the acting was so bad. Even Marky Mark couldn't make that a good show. Maybe it's just me, did all of the gun shots sound a little over boomy ? I couldn't go higher than a 3 for that one.
The Punisher for me was a back & forth movie, show was kinda ok, the sound wasn't booming but it was crisp when it needed it..some subtle humor and the blood spats were pretty cool.. maybe 3.5 for me..
WoW you might have the movies crossed. The Punisher Warzone was horrible acting the main character just look at the guy he looks like a major D-Bag IMO. The sound in that movie was good but the bass was a little lacking then again i watched it with my old sub. But theres no way i would give punisher higher than max payne. Hopefully were referring to the same punisher and not the original. Also this is my opinion not meant to hurt anyones feelings. Speaking of boomy gun shots which arent bad check out Shoot Em Up. To me that movie couldnt have any better audio than it does. The opening car crash scene where the guy yells out the window afterwards awesome LFE on that.
Helmutz88 04-16-09, 09:02 AM WoW you might have the movies crossed. The Punisher Warzone was horrible acting the main character just look at the guy he looks like a major D-Bag IMO. The sound in that movie was good but the bass was a little lacking then again i watched it with my old sub. But theres no way i would give punisher higher than max payne. Hopefully were referring to the same punisher and not the original. Also this is my opinion not meant to hurt anyones feelings. Speaking of boomy gun shots which arent bad check out Shoot Em Up. To me that movie couldnt have any better audio than it does. The opening car crash scene where the guy yells out the window afterwards awesome LFE on that.
I didn't say the Punisher was a good movie or the acting was stellar. The storyline was somewhat better than Max Payne. Max Payne acting was worse than soap operas. The Punisher wasn't much better. To rent those movies and watch them back to back, ya a waste of time, but i wouldn't recommend Max Payne even for one watch. I haven't had a chance to watch Shoot Em Up yet, but i like Clive.
I didn't say the Punisher was a good movie or the acting was stellar. The storyline was somewhat better than Max Payne. Max Payne acting was worse than soap operas. The Punisher wasn't much better. To rent those movies and watch them back to back, ya a waste of time, but i wouldn't recommend Max Payne even for one watch. I haven't had a chance to watch Shoot Em Up yet, but i like Clive.
Yea clive owens is alright in my book. You see Children of Men yet? Its a pretty odd flick but i liked it, its also starring clive owens. But back to the subject. Come on marky mark is no where near an actor who will ever receiver any sort of an award. But he is a 10x better actor than the d-bag who played punisher. This is all opinion based no scientific formula to prove this or anything just my obervations. Anyways man movies like max payne and punisher are watched for the audio and gore not the story line. But werent they the same movie? Some guys family gets killed so he goes on a vigilante killing spree trying to find the killer.
Helmutz88 04-16-09, 04:49 PM No i agree. The Punisher actor was bad, Wahlberg was solid but had nothing to work with, last 30 minutes was good. After watching both last night, The Punisher had some stuff that to me, looked like a blatant rip off attempt of Hitman. For my trifecta i also watched Wanted, i thought it was decent, the audio on that track really hammered my system nicely...a good solid 4, i could watch it once or twice more.
I'll take these back and see if i can rent the Children of Men and Shoot em for tonight..
I was just expecting more out of both of those movies. Gotta watch em to see :)
sourbeef 04-16-09, 10:12 PM For all of you WALL-E doubters out there, check out when the spaceship returns to Earth with all the people in it. My Ultra rocks with that scene, -5 from reference. So does my house :eek:.
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I just received a used DVD copy of The Haunting in DTS for a very good price :D Never seen or heard it demo'd before.
Does this still hold up today even with these great Blu-ray hi-res titles now?
I just received a used DVD copy of The Haunting in DTS for a very good price :D Never seen or heard it demo'd before.
Does this still hold up today even with these great Blu-ray hi-res titles now?
is that the 6.1 DTS discrete version ?
i thought the bass was pretty cool in that one
lfe man 04-16-09, 11:49 PM No i agree. The Punisher actor was bad, Wahlberg was solid but had nothing to work with, last 30 minutes was good. After watching both last night, The Punisher had some stuff that to me, looked like a blatant rip off attempt of Hitman. For my trifecta i also watched Wanted, i thought it was decent, the audio on that track really hammered my system nicely...a good solid 4, i could watch it once or twice more.
I'll take these back and see if i can rent the Children of Men and Shoot em for tonight..
I was just expecting more out of both of those movies. Gotta watch em to see :)
Children of men have some very good bass, explosions and that zen music scene is nice.
No i agree. The Punisher actor was bad, Wahlberg was solid but had nothing to work with, last 30 minutes was good. After watching both last night, The Punisher had some stuff that to me, looked like a blatant rip off attempt of Hitman. For my trifecta i also watched Wanted, i thought it was decent, the audio on that track really hammered my system nicely...a good solid 4, i could watch it once or twice more.
I'll take these back and see if i can rent the Children of Men and Shoot em for tonight..
I was just expecting more out of both of those movies. Gotta watch em to see :)
Wanted IMO was a good movie all the way around. I wish i could curve a bullet not that id use the skill as an assasin but it would be an awesome feat none the less. But yea wanted smashed both those movies in the audio department in my book as well. Another reccomendation i have is THE SPIRIT for audio and video quality on blu-ray it is amazing especially the surround presentation. A few scenes i thought some stuff was going on in my house and actually paused the movie but it was just in the movie the sound was so real. If you can get past the fact the comic books its based off was written with an old greek dialouge then the movie its self is fairly good. Most people dont understand the dialouge so they dismiss the fact its another decent over the top ridiculous flick lol. You shouldnt be disappointed by either movies(shoot em up or children of men). Another older clive owens flick i like was ILL SLEEP WHEN IM DEAD. Nothing spectacular in the audio department i just like the movie.
is that the 6.1 DTS discrete version ?
i thought the bass was pretty cool in that one
Yes
The Haunting you are referring to what is it and whos in it? If i type in The Haunting in IMDB 100 movies pop up. The only 2 that show that are actually titled The Haunting is one from the 50's and the one with Owen Wilson. Is that the movie? I have been wanting to see it since its a 5star rating but dont know which one.
This one, I have the DTS copy
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews2/haunting.html
Thank you, its a bonus i have never seen that movie. Although i dont mind re-watching movies with the new setup. Good audio completely changes a whole movie
Did i mention i love movies.
DevilDog151 04-18-09, 01:45 AM I just received a used DVD copy of The Haunting in DTS for a very good price :D Never seen or heard it demo'd before.
Does this still hold up today even with these great Blu-ray hi-res titles now?
Definitely, your going to be blown away by the amount of LFE in that movie. I actually own almost all the movies in the three top tiers and my top three in order are War of the worlds, The Haunting and Hot fuzz. The Haunting had cabinets in the kitchen vibrating and my SVS is all the way in the living room about 40 feet away. It goes extremely low so be careful.
Definitely, your going to be blown away by the amount of LFE in that movie. I actually own almost all the movies in the three top tiers and my top three in order are War of the worlds, The Haunting and Hot fuzz. The Haunting had cabinets in the kitchen vibrating and my SVS is all the way in the living room about 40 feet away. It goes extremely low so be careful.
Excellent! Thanks! I hope to see it very soon, and will post back on my thoughts. If it is anything like WOTW and Hot Fuzz, I can't wait!
allredp 04-18-09, 11:34 AM Bolt was as advertised--heavy bass in the first 10' or so and a few spots afterward.
Even so, to me it didn't rise to the KFP level because it wasn't as varied--seemed too "one-note" in comparison. Waterfalls would reveal that it gets pretty low I'm guessing, so that's a plus.
However, it was inconsistent as well; there'd be a part where you'd swear "oh, that's going to pound" but it didn't. The helicopter slo-mo part was decent, but nothing special or even on par with other slo-mo scenes (FOTR, Transformers)--I was hoping for a reverse sweep or something more interesting.
Call me a complainer, but I'm getting picky about the lack of solid mid-bass in movies. I'm sure the audio mixers have a hard job, but when some movies get it right (Transformers, KFP, The Island, Master & Commander), you know it's possible.
Bolt was good, but not great. Opening scene is impressive and worth a demo for sure. FWIW: 4.0
there's a lot of good movies from decades past that should be remixed/remastered with better bass
SbWillie 04-18-09, 04:14 PM there's a lot of good movies from decades past that should be remixed/remastered with better bassGLORY is coming to BR in less than 2 months...has a TON of bass...not much below 30 Hz though....remixing will not add DEPTH!
sourbeef 04-18-09, 10:56 PM Dudes, I just watched Slumdog Millionaire. That movie is hot with bass:eek:. Most of it is a musical bass, but there are some scenes with regular HT bass moments like the helicopter scene near the beginning of the movie. I thought it was a little too bass heavy now and then but overall a good and the movie itself is very good. I would give it 4 stars :eek::eek::eek::eek:just for the bass.
Also, the surround mix was very hot. I had to turn my surrounds down 4db because the speakers were sounding loud and a little bit scratchy.
Overall, I am glad I bought this one on blu-ray.:cool:
Dudes, I just watched Slumdog Millionaire. That movie is hot with bass:eek:. Most of it is a musical bass, but there are some scenes with regular HT bass moments like the helicopter scene near the beginning of the movie. I thought it was a little too bass heavy now and then but overall a good and the movie itself is very good. I would give it 4 stars :eek::eek::eek::eek:just for the bass.
Also, the surround mix was very hot. I had to turn my surrounds down 4db because the speakers were sounding loud and a little bit scratchy.
Overall, I am glad I bought this one on blu-ray.:cool:
Who wouldve thought. Now im going to have to see this movie. I didnt have much interest in it until this statement. I hope your not fibbing because it got bumped from the bottom of my que to the middle lol.
theelviscerator 04-19-09, 09:38 AM Dudes, I just watched Slumdog Millionaire. That movie is hot with bass:eek:. Most of it is a musical bass, but there are some scenes with regular HT bass moments like the helicopter scene near the beginning of the movie. I thought it was a little too bass heavy now and then but overall a good and the movie itself is very good. I would give it 4 stars :eek::eek::eek::eek:just for the bass.
Also, the surround mix was very hot. I had to turn my surrounds down 4db because the speakers were sounding loud and a little bit scratchy.
Overall, I am glad I bought this one on blu-ray.:cool:
I had the same issue and thought somehow my Audyssy settings became corrupted...I reset the reciever to default, and re ran it..and it went away..(scratchy rears)
not same movie though..
OvalNut 04-19-09, 10:05 AM Waterfall request:
The Day the Earth Stood Still - The scene where the scientists first approach the sphere in Central Park and you feel/hear what sound like huge footsteps in the distance, then the scientists ask each other, "Did you feel that?"
That one got one of the recessed can lights in my ceiling rattling like it never has before. :rolleyes: I'd love to know what the primary frequency is of those footsteps.
Much thanks in advance,
Tim
The Day the Earth Stood Still - The scene where the scientists first approach the sphere in Central Park and you feel/hear what sound like huge footsteps in the distance, then the scientists ask each other, "Did you feel that?"
I'll have to check that out. Sounds like maybe they did it right. Reminds me of one of my pet peves with many sound mixes... they have all this intense bass,then when there's a situation where infrasonics alone would be very beneficial (something you should feel, but not really hear), they don't do it. That caused a big disconnect for me during Transformers... my room was really shaking when they were outside the kids house, then cut to inside the house and one of the parents feels it and notices something shaking on the table and asks if they're having an earthquake. But nothing in my room... the shaking in MY room was significantly reduced along with the reduction in overall sound from the transformers. If they had continued with the infrasonics during that cut to indoors while attenuating the 15-20hz+ stuff, letting the transformers still be felt, but not heard, that scene would have been MUCH more effective.
Jesse S 04-19-09, 03:15 PM I watched The Core (2003) a few nights ago. Some pretty good, rip-roaring bass in there.
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JBLsound4645 04-19-09, 04:11 PM there's a lot of good movies from decades past that should be remixed/remastered with better bass
I’d rather they leave it alone! If it sounded wicked in THX back in the past then there is no reason why it shouldn’t still have the same impact, besides it keeping the mix intact and faithful to the original.
Two versions of the film would be okay in my books, a single disc has possible STICK written over it, maybe?
Take Star Trek directors edition 1979 original NOT! = STICKS!
Superman the movie 1978 original NOT! = STICKS!
Plus I’m fanged to the teeth with double dipping BANNED the double dipping! Sigh:(
Just watched Max Payne this morning and it had ridiculous amounts of LFE :D The movie was pretty bad though :(
JBLsound4645 04-19-09, 04:20 PM GLORY is coming to BR in less than 2 months...has a TON of bass...not much below 30 Hz though....remixing will not add DEPTH!
I have Glory on region 2 DVD, must have listened to the mix at last 100 times plus since 1990 when it came out on VHS rental, then widescreen VHS then on PAL widescreen laserdisc and now on region 2 DVD in six-track Dolby stereo with split-surounds.
Oh, I smell re-mix on Glory I’m sure dead certain it didn’t go out in 70mm with split-surrounds because its not mentioned on the In-70mm site, 70mm Dolby SR.
LFE.1 comes in to some good effect during the assault on Fort Wagner. Its mostly James Horner score that drops down close to 25Hz and that is more than sufficient.
Oddly enough I recall the VHS PAL first edition rental being very hard edge Dolby stereo 4:2:4, that would be very rare and hard to track down now on Hi-Fi stereo VHS if its not crewed up as it will drop out of Hi-Fi to linear monaural, now then.
It would be interesting to do an A B and C of Glory from VHS first edition to laserdisc to DVD and the newer, newer DVD and maybe bluray, but I’m still not interested in the format, not for all the EMPIRE Leicester Square, now then!
JBLsound4645 04-19-09, 04:33 PM I watched The Core (2003) a few nights ago. Some pretty good, rip-roaring bass in there.
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Hmm, Are those independent, individual waterfalls of LCR or LFE.1 or what because I can’t tell I have the film on region 2 DVD and I concur, it has lots of silly low end. The Golden Gate Bridge LOL it seems Hollywood is bent on destroying the USA!
Anyway I’m popping out to get Swiss role because it rules over LFE.1! I’ll test t went I get back to see how much jam it has on spectrumlab.:D
SbWillie 04-19-09, 10:49 PM I have Glory on region 2 DVD, must have listened to the mix at last 100 times plus since 1990 when it came out on VHS rental, then widescreen VHS then on PAL widescreen laserdisc and now on region 2 DVD in six-track Dolby stereo with split-surounds.
I'm probably thinking about the consistent cannon blasts throughout the movie that I Spec'd a year or 2 ago....Most were -30 or so and evenly covering 90 to 30 Hz constantly. One of my top 3 fav films so it will be a MUST HAVE!:D
JBLsound4645 04-20-09, 11:24 AM I'm probably thinking about the consistent cannon blasts throughout the movie that I Spec'd a year or 2 ago....Most were -30 or so and evenly covering 90 to 30 Hz constantly. One of my top 3 fav films so it will be a MUST HAVE!:D
It received best achievement in sound 1989 for Soundelux. I’d have to run the film though on spectrumlab, which channel as in some cases some may not have Dolby digital in the home, sod it, I’ll run the LFE.1 track only, look though the opening and final part to see which part of the film hits the lowest.
Playing GLORY 1989 NOW! If you listen to chapter 25 Assault on Fort Wagner at 99 minutes 57 secounsd thou region 1 will differ in time. Just as the Grey coasts fire the first cannon shot at the Blue coats, about midway point of the cannon blast LCR produces a cool low end, thou I’m not presently monitoring on spectrumlab, I will link the individual channels after I’ve had my afternoon GLORY bass rush!
LFE.1 is accompanied a few seconds after dong like distant cannon shot is heard off-screen as the 54th charge in, then deep LCR/LFE.1. Its cool when you leave one sub to play LFE.1 the other for LCRS, thou I wouldn’t mind one sub per LCRS balanced to produce a Glorified WOW!
But I can enhance the level of the film. Also do you find the split-surrounds soft on the region1? if you where to mute LCR/LFE.1 and listen to the surrounds its different animal.
I just take the level up on the surrounds for this one, not TOO HIGH mind you, just enough to make this film the dogs bollocks in SOUND!
Chapter 27, time 103 minutes 57 seconds GOD DAMN those muskets from the Grey coats over LCR has wicked KICK! I knew the new placement of the Eltax A-12R was good enough near the corner of the chimney beast left side front, but GOD DAMN the KICK is WICKED!
LFE.1 not present at this time, so take note! I’ll take waterfall of this chapter later on, just reporting the feel of it. The pounding of the KICK in the sofa was rapped discharging of musket fire, that KICKED up thou the back of the sofa into my spin and partly in the chest! Now that is Scary sound!
This film makes automatic machinegun sound laughable, this film has WICKED musket KICK!
JBLsound4645 04-20-09, 02:51 PM GLORY 1989
Region 2
Road show 70mm six-track Dolby stereo SR
DVD six-track Dolby stereo digital with split-surrounds
Chapter 8
Time 30 minutes 16 seconds to 30 minutes 36 seconds.
Time 32 minutes 08 seconds to 32 minutes 28 seconds
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Helmutz88 04-20-09, 06:48 PM Eragon needs to be on the list..decent movie..some serious bass and a good amount throughout the entire show. I didn't see it on the master list, but i'd give it a solid 4.5...
Finally watched shoot em up..4.0..killer soundtrack in the movie, bass in the songs came out really nice.
croseiv 04-20-09, 08:20 PM Eragon needs to be on the list..decent movie..some serious bass and a good amount throughout the entire show. I didn't see it on the master list, but i'd give it a solid 4.5...
Finally watched shoot em up..4.0..killer soundtrack in the movie, bass in the songs came out really nice.
Agreed concerning Eragon! Strong movie with great LFE. One of my favorites. The scene where he touches the dragon for the first time shook my whole house. Very cool. I love whow the music builds up to the point where he touches it, and then it's like KABOOM....Talking about the lossless BD.
SbWillie 04-20-09, 11:29 PM GLORY 1989
Region 2
Road show 70mm six-track Dolby stereo SR
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http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk279/SpectrumsubbassLFE13417/GLORYmusketfirereloaddoitdoitdoi-2.jpgFASTER!!
soory couldn't help quoting it..NO I do not OWN Glory..I WILL own the BR when it comes out though! :D
JBLsound4645 04-21-09, 12:02 AM FASTER!!
soory couldn't help quoting it..NO I do not OWN Glory..I WILL own the BR when it comes out though! :D
So what do you like about the left and right and LFE.1 as I did several of the same scene and the one before it.
So you know how to connect the lead to the AVR and get the waterfalls, set the AVR to 0db and let it play, like to see individual bluay waterfalls to fully convince me its worth buying.
I wonder if it will come with Dolby 5.0 isolated James Horner score like the DVD if so I guess the extras will be same or maybe some new ones added since its 20 years since it came out. The audio community is nice listen on the DVD.
I must have played the end credits at least 7 or 8 times yesterday afternoon, oh yeah I like this film a lot.
It’s too bad the DVD doesn’t have subtitles, weird?
FASTER!
I couldn’t resist.:D
Serenity...wow...never even heard of the movie but it sure made it feel like I was in the craft in my HT. The room, actually house, shook when the ship shook. Suprisingly an entertaining movie and is worth buying for the lfe.
GLORY is coming to BR in less than 2 months...has a TON of bass...not much below 30 Hz though....remixing will not add DEPTH!
how can they add more depth ?
i'm sure they could do it some how
Independence Day is a movie i'd like to see with more bass added. that movie should have WOTW type bass
SbWillie 04-21-09, 07:27 PM The bass would possibly increase a few Dbs somehow but it won't just create bass unless the older version had issues that a BR transfer somehow magically corrected.
sourbeef 04-21-09, 10:43 PM Amazon has this 50% off right now for $19.99 blu-ray bassheads. ;):cool::D
SbWillie 04-22-09, 08:04 AM Hoo?? course I was stuck paying $30 for Iron Man 4 months ago..not it's half off .. :(
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