Watched Transformers 2 AGAIN with my son just to see if I would still be as impressed...this is by far the best lfe action I have heard from beginning to end!

i didn't notice any distortion from the sub but definitely from my surrounds when Optimus says something like "we have met before" and then there is a ton of surround info.

anybody else notice that? my system is calibrated (harman kardon avr 7550HD) and i was at -15. never noticed this distortion before but this time it sounded like my surrounds were going to blow out!

yeah i got that too! when the camera's high, going over the hill and revealing the decepticons building the pyramid structure. i was wondering if i was the only one...

I was able to watch a few scenes of Transformers 2 at a more spirited level then I did before. It really sounded great. Lots of wow moments for me. I really like this one. Hopefully I can watch the entire movie at that level at some point.

I am trying to get this spectrum lab to work, but it is not looking like everyone else's. Can anyone help me out with this? What version do I need and what steps should I take after a fresh install?

I am trying to get this spectrum lab to work, but it is not looking like everyone else's. Can anyone help me out with this? What version do I need and what steps should I take after a fresh install?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13315196#post13315196

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13315196#post13315196

Doesn't work. Doesn't do anything.

I made some waterfalls of the big screen version vs the small screen version, and when the 4dB dialnorm attenuation is taken into account, they are identical....

Here is the opening paramount scene for each....and on other scenes, same thing...

JSS

Thanks, not a big difference, but I am getting a +1db boost on any explosion, rumble, gunshot or LFE related issue with the standard edition consistently, I have tested these scenes numerous times on different days, same results. Sound level meter mounted on a tripod. Polk LSi speakers all the way around to include sub. Bitstreaming Pioneer BDP-05FD to SC-05 all speakers set to small, 80hz crossover.

Now if I set the decoding DTS-HD within the bluray player the results are identical after the 4db boost. My receiver must be doing something funky to get the extra +1db of bass then.

Doesn't work. Doesn't do anything.

Did you click on it? It works perfectly for me.

Pro 630HD,

Do you have Audyssey Dynamic EQ on board? I also get a 1 dB difference with Dynamic EQ engaged, if I listen at -10dB for the standard version, and -6dB for the IMAX version...

Audyssey Dynamic EQ adjusts things using -0dB as reference, and so it 'sees' the standard version as being played 'softer', so it gives a little more boost to the bass, predominantly to the lowest freqs...

With DynEQ off, the levels are within 1dB, probably within the tolerance of the meter....

JSS

I have to ask, what is listening to it at -10 db? I have an Onkyo 607. How do you find out what db your listening to it at. Is it as simple as using the spl meter during the movie? I have never understood the whole "listening at - db" thing. I figured it was the naming of the volume on the receiver, but now I have a Onkyo and it goes up to 80, and I listen to it at around 54. Turn it up till my clip light comes on at a peak, then back it off a couple. Any help on the explanation of that?
Thanks

People calibrate their receivers so that 0db is reference volume. That means peaks of 105db for the speakers and 115db for the sub (or something like 121db when speakers are set to small.

Watched Ice Age part 3 last night ,wow! This movie runs the full gamut of sound IMO, what a demo disc for video and audio.

TF2 FINALLY shipping--I can't wait!!....someone should probally warn the neighbors
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e251/mg14136/1028090958.jpg

I have to ask, what is listening to it at -10 db? I have an Onkyo 607. How do you find out what db your listening to it at. Is it as simple as using the spl meter during the movie? I have never understood the whole "listening at - db" thing. I figured it was the naming of the volume on the receiver, but now I have a Onkyo and it goes up to 80, and I listen to it at around 54. Turn it up till my clip light comes on at a peak, then back it off a couple. Any help on the explanation of that?
Thanks

Switch your Onkyo 607 to Relative Volume. On my Onkyo 805 the relative range is -81.0dB to +18.0dB. I generally listen at -10dB or so with "0" as reference level.

TF2 FINALLY shipping--I can't wait!!....someone should probally warn the neighbors
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e251/mg14136/1028090958.jpg
Watched that last week. At the opening credits the closet door in the next room started to vibrate. I really don't have a very big sub either.

Enjoy!

I just watched the haunting...Am I missing something...yes bass was good but not mind blowing...I only had the dd from netflix...Do I need the DTS or other formatted one?

I just watched the haunting...Am I missing something...yes bass was good but not mind blowing...I only had the dd from netflix...Do I need the DTS or other formatted one?

6.1 DTS discrete is the one most talk about

never heard the DD version

I just watched the haunting...Am I missing something...yes bass was good but not mind blowing...I only had the dd from netflix...Do I need the DTS or other formatted one?

I just purchased the DTS 6.1 version used and listen to it last night. I rented the DD version a couple of years ago and the DTS version is much, much better. I would still give it 5 stars for bass.

I would describe The Hauntings bass (DTS) deep, loud, powerful and very articulate, but not in abundant doses. If that makes sense :D

I watched Up a couple of days ago (DTS ES 6.1 core version). It has a good half dozen or so heavy bass scenes in it. One scene that comes to mind is when the house flies through the lightening storm.

I would give the bass 4 stars.

The movie itself is a strong 5 stars. If you haven't watched it yet, be prepared to cry. The first part of the movie is very sad. I watched the movie the first time all by myself. I was prepared for it when I re-watched it with my wife and kids. My wife balled her eyes out. This movie is very good. Sorry for the spoiler, if you want to call it that.

I watched Up a couple of days ago (DTS ES 6.1 core version). It has a good half dozen or so heavy bass scenes in it. One scene that comes to mind is when the house flies through the lightening storm.

I would give the bass 4 stars.

The movie itself is a strong 5 stars. If you haven't watched it yet, be prepared to cry. The first part of the movie is very sad. I watched the movie the first time all by myself. I was prepared for it when I re-watched it with my wife and kids. My wife balled her eyes out. This movie is very good. Sorry for the spoiler, if you want to call it that.

i had to read your post like 5 times to figure out you were not talking about the haunting :D

i had to read your post like 5 times to figure out you were not talking about the haunting :D

I edited my post. Does that help?

I edited my post. Does that help?

yup LOL

:p

yup LOL

:p

I think your perception of me has forever been skewed by that post hasn't it?! :D

I watched Up a couple of days ago (DTS ES 6.1 core version). It has a good half dozen or so heavy bass scenes in it. One scene that comes to mind is when the house flies through the lightening storm.

I would give the bass 4 stars.

The movie itself is a strong 5 stars. If you haven't watched it yet, be prepared to cry. The first part of the movie is very sad. I watched the movie the first time all by myself. I was prepared for it when I re-watched it with my wife and kids. My wife balled her eyes out. This movie is very good. Sorry for the spoiler, if you want to call it that.

Actually, I have been watching Up again at higher volumes (-10/-15 MV), and the bass is coming through a lot stronger. I have also found quite a few more bass scenes. This may be a 4.5 bass movie! :D

Actually, I have been watching Up again at higher volumes (-10/-15 MV), and the bass is coming through a lot stronger. I have also found quite a few more bass scenes. This may be a 4.5 bass movie! :D

How are you watching UP??? It's not even out yet. I saw it at the theater. It's a great movie IMO.

it's a pirated/bootlegged/stolen version...one way to get this thing closed actually.

Just checked out a very good flick,State of Play, good bass as well! ANyone checked it on the falls??

I think your perception of me has forever been skewed by that post hasn't it?! :D

what's Up with that :p

Watched Ice Age part 3 last night ,wow! This movie runs the full gamut of sound IMO, what a demo disc for video and audio.

Agreed. Seems to be on par with Horton Hears a Who.

Couple things that are bothering me about this thread now.

1. IT IS A WATERFALL THREAD. The lack of waterfalls is making me cranky...where are they? (I can't do them, but I know others can.) This used to be my go to thread when a movie came out.

2. STOP posting about bootleg versions. We only want to talk about the real deal..either BLU-Ray or DVD versions with the highest quality soundtracks that you can find. Don't even try to argue that your bootlegs are the best...I don't buy it and never will.

Couple things that are bothering me about this thread now.

1. IT IS A WATERFALL THREAD. The lack of waterfalls is making me cranky...where are they? (I can't do them, but I know others can.) This used to be my go to thread when a movie came out.

2. STOP posting about bootleg versions. We only want to talk about the real deal..either BLU-Ray or DVD versions with the highest quality soundtracks that you can find. Don't even try to argue that your bootlegs are the best...I don't buy it and never will.

Yep. I totally agree. NO BOOTLEGGED versions. That is stealing, and it's illegal. I'd hate to see this thread closed down because of that.

If no one wants "illegal" waterfalls I will stop posting those for the sake of this thread. If we could get an admin/mod to shed some light on the subject that would be great. I don't see how its against the rules if no one posts where to get such video/movie.

If no one wants "illegal" waterfalls I will stop posting those for the sake of this thread. If we could get an admin/mod to shed some light on the subject that would be great. I don't see how its against the rules if no one posts where to get such video/movie.

The problem arises when folks are posting waterfalls of movies well ahead of their public release dates. Therefore it's obvious that it must be pirated.

The problem arises when folks are posting waterfalls of movies well ahead of their public release dates. Therefore it's obvious that it must be pirated.

What harm is this causing? Posting a picture of a waterfall from an illegally obtained movie...Its just a picture.

What harm is this causing? Posting a picture of a waterfall from an illegally obtained movie...Its just a picture.

I think you are completely missing the point.

I don't want them because they are not VALID waterfalls.

We only want FROM THE DISC rips of the Blu-Rays (or dvds).

I don't want them because they are not VALID waterfalls.

We only want FROM THE DISC rips of the Blu-Rays (or dvds).

He is talking about a FROM THE DISC rip of the Blu-Ray with audio bit-for-bit identical to the original. The argument is that it probably isn't best to be posting waterfalls of or discussing movies prior to their official release date.

I would agree.

Is this thread dying? That would be an aweful shame. Noone in here able to do the waterfalls apart from the original poster?

Anybody watch GI Joe? I'm thinking of blind buying it.

Anybody watch GI Joe? I'm thinking of blind buying it.
I personally don't think it is worth buying unless you can get it for less than 15 dollars. The bass was good in some scenes but not stellar if I remember correctly. It is a popcorn flick if you can turn off your brain and forget what the GI Joe cartoon was actually like.
Rent it first, trust me.

Is this thread dying? That would be an aweful shame. Noone in here able to do the waterfalls apart from the original poster?

There has been some posts in the previous pages. The first page hasn't been updated in a while...

Anybody watch GI Joe? I'm thinking of blind buying it.

I saw it at the movie theater and i enjoy it. I will probably buy it.

My PC biting ths dust stopped my falls...sad that the falls are only sporadic now :(

I think DrPainMD, who started this thread, and used to manage all of the waterfalls, has quit doing so. Not all of us have PCs that read Blu-Rays and can do waterfalls from them.

I rented GI Joe on blu and enjoyed it. Was worth the rental. The bass was there but nothing special.

I thought GI Joe left a lot to be desired compared to the sound of TF2...and the special effects were inferior as well...definitely not demo material for me...

JSS

I thought GI joe was 4.5 stars for bass and Trans 2 a 5. Tranformers was the first movie to shake my projector and move my doors in and out. BTW, I have both the Imax version and standard and mine are the same levels.

I thought GI joe was 4.5 stars for bass and Trans 2 a 5. Tranformers was the first movie to shake my projector and move my doors in and out. BTW, I have both the Imax version and standard and mine are the same levels.

this sounds like a new benchmark for you.
I did enjoy TF2, but found it a little too long and the movie lost my interest at points. The bass was good, but I was not blown away.

MK, what scenes made your doors move and had your projector shaking?

The sideswipe flip and some scenes in the forest. I was playing the Imax version to test it out and it had more bass than the standard(the standard never made my projector shake) but then I realized I had it turned up 4 db's(per the discussion about the LFE) soI turned it down 4 db's and it still moved the projector a little. It is nice to know that if I get crazy with the MV my system handles it with no problems, my room does not though. It did sound amazing. I am sure when WOTW comes to bluray it will still be #1. Blurays just have so much more dynamics even it the spl's are the same. Blurays sound much better than DVD's and make every movie with bass sound great. I have owned many speakers that play reference levels(105 db's peak) but some are much more dynamic at the same spl, just like bluray compared to dvd.

I was playing the Imax version to test it out and it had more bass than the standard(the standard never made my projector shake)

OT... MK, did you ever find out if this is what was causing your projector problems?


dbl

I thought GI Joe left a lot to be desired compared to the sound of TF2...and the special effects were inferior as well...definitely not demo material for me...

JSS

I certainly agree! Made the mistake of watching TF2 4 times with different groups and then watchinf GI Joe...just wasnt the same...TF2 sound n LFE particularly is just amazing...the sideswipe flip and Optimus flip and well the last 30 min are awesome...deff my new demo...though its still hard to pass WOTW and FTP in parts but as a whole I thought TF2 was about as 5 stars as you can get!

No, My projector is always blurry(out of focus) when I turn it on and then I have to readjust it 3 times during a movie. By the middle of the movie it stays focus. When I turn it on the next day it is out of focus again although it was in focus when I turned it off.

What movie is FTP?

MK - Sounds very much like a thermal expansion issue...I bet the projector doesn't thermally equilibrate until about halfway through the movie, when the focus will stay steady...

JSS

^^

Flight of the Phoenix...

What movie is FTP?

MK - Sounds very much like a thermal expansion issue...I bet the projector doesn't thermally equilibrate until about halfway through the movie, when the focus will stay steady...

JSS

What regulates this and can it be fixed?

Basically, the projector generates heat (mainly from the light source), and there is a fan to keep that heat in check. The temp slowly grows until a balance is reached between the heat the projector is creating and the amount of heat the fan is blowing off...then the focus stays steady. Before that balance, my guess is that very small changes in lens spacing are happening causing the focus error until it reaches a steady-state...

Not sure what can be done about it, though...other than giving the projector a healthy warm-up period before using it...is it in a cramped location, or does it have plenty of airflow around it? Tight confines can make parts of the projector heat up that weren't designed to...

JSS

I just purchased the DTS 6.1 version used and listen to it last night. I rented the DD version a couple of years ago and the DTS version is much, much better. I would still give it 5 stars for bass.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one having some fun on Halloween - was saving my copy just for the occasion :D

I would describe The Hauntings bass (DTS) deep, loud, powerful and very articulate, but not in abundant doses. If that makes sense :D

Makes sense to me. The IXL had things in the room shaking up, down, and sideways when called for, but it was never too much or inappropriate; unlike other movies I've seen since my build was completed.

So, I've been watching the Two Towers (EE) and there's a section a little over half way through the first disk, where Tree Beard is walking through the forest, talking to the hobbits. When he steps, there's some serious low frequency stuff there causing some really cool SPL ripples (must be around 20 Hz). Do any of you have an idea what the waterfall looks like for this section? I checked the list here, but there's nothing. It's quite impressive though. It actually was shaking the hairs on the back of my neck. I've not noticed it before, but it's way cool.

I saw gi Joe today on blu Ray. Lots of action with impressive bass towards the end of the movie.

croseiv, what i remember, you can do those charts too.:p

Gi joe have lots of lfe, a way more than tf2 and a way more deeper. When they detonate ice in the end, that is some serious stuff. Charts will follow soon.:)

croseiv, what i remember, you can do those charts too.:p

Gi joe have lots of lfe, a way more than tf2 and a way more deeper. When they detonate ice in the end, that is some serious stuff. Charts will follow soon.:)

Yeah, I may have to blow the dust of my spectrum lab.:) At least for that part in LOTR. It really impressed me.

Gi joe have lots of lfe, a way more than tf2 and a way more deeper. When they detonate ice in the end, that is some serious stuff. Charts will follow soon.:)

Cool, after I get thru a romantic comedy, GI Joe is at the top of our netflix. I also have star trek at the top as well--didn't see either in theatres, but still have high hopes

g.i.joe is good movies, i think it have a lot of bass. Not sure because i just have 3 days old baby so cant listen at level ,that i used to. but i can feel the bass kick my ass ( my wife call me so many times to tell me turn down volume :D)

Just picked up my copy of Star Wars Clone wars season one on blu ray!!!! Wow are the PQ/SQ stellar. Just awesome.

croseiv, what i remember, you can do those charts too.:p

Gi joe have lots of lfe, a way more than tf2 and a way more deeper. When they detonate ice in the end, that is some serious stuff. Charts will follow soon.:)

Hmmm, I was disappointed with GI Joe. I thought TF2 hit way better. Also, I watched the new Stargate 15th anniversary edition BD right after GI Joe and it blew Joe out of the water in both LFE and overall sound envelopment.

Maestro,

I agree, TF2 does hit better. Good movie bass is not just about how low you go...what most people perceive as 'impact' 'slam' or 'kick' is much higher in the bass range than you think, around 45-80Hz. The sub-30Hz stuff is more 'shaking' than 'hitting', and the 'pant-flapping' is usually in the 30-45Hz range....

JSS

Picked up my copy of UP today (blu-ray). I saw it over the Summer, but I'm pumped about having this one.

for any of you who don't have a copy of flight of the phoenix, i just picked up a copy at best buy for dirt cheap.

I am wondering what people are getting with an SPL meter during some of the scenes for ROTF. I had my ratshack meter out and hit 114 db at the listening position when the corvette flipped over the Audi. Feel free to fill in the names. LOL I figure that is pretty intense, but wonder what others are getting?

I am wondering what people are getting with an SPL meter during some of the scenes for ROTF. I had my ratshack meter out and hit 114 db at the listening position when the corvette flipped over the Audi. Feel free to fill in the names. LOL I figure that is pretty intense, but wonder what others are getting?

Start here...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17396922#post17396922

My readings are a few posts down from the above link.

Picked up my copy of UP today (blu-ray). I saw it over the Summer, but I'm pumped about having this one.The cave escape/cliff jump had some nice bass!

The cave escape/cliff jump had some nice bass!

Yeah, baby! When the rock columns (?) domino over each other the LFE is pretty impressive... :)

Great show, too...

Watched Up and Monsters inc on blu Ray. Both movies have some good bass. I am going to have to give the edge on bass to Monsters inc.

District 9 has some awesome low freq in certain parts of the movie.

I just watched GI Joe. I thought it had massive amounts of bass in it. I really liked the movie too.

up had great bass...but not alot of it but when it hit...it hit pretty hard.

orphan had a little bit of bass.

GI Joe seemed recorded SOFT.

I had to crank it 4db MORE than usual to get it to where I thought it sounded Normal.

The movie def had 4 star bass!

Do we have any plots?

def?

def?

definitely.....?:rolleyes:

got it...sorry..lol

I just watched GI Joe, and it had alot of bass, very entertaining big screen special effects...and ALOT of them. Just not alot of the really uber low moments at high decibels. There were some missed opportunities in the sound design where they could have easily credibly incorporated the type of room pressurizing BASS that you need the right equipment to enjoy, but they just didn't.

One neat treat was during the convoy attack scene, when they opened up with the .50 cals on the attacking ship. It wasn't so much that it was low, but it was breathtaking.

A solid 4 star bass movie.


Tim

I just watched GI Joe, and it had alot of bass, very entertaining big screen special effects...and ALOT of them. Just not alot of the really uber low moments at high decibels. There were some missed opportunities in the sound design where they could have easily credibly incorporated the type of room pressurizing BASS that you need the right equipment to enjoy, but they just didn't.

One neat treat was during the convoy attack scene, when they opened up with the .50 cals on the attacking ship. It wasn't so much that it was low, but it was breathtaking.

A solid 4 star bass movie.


Tim

I couldn't agree more with what you said. Maybe we are just spoiled by our Ultras. I thought the movie could have had more 20-30hz bass.

The .50 cal really showed how quickly and accurately our Ultra's respond...that was impressive.

District 9 has some awesome low freq in certain parts of the movie.

I'd like to see a few plots for D9. The scene when the mothership is reactived, there is a shockwave that blasts out the windows in the entire city. Also again where it moves and leaves the planet.

I couldn't agree more with what you said. Maybe we are just spoiled by our Ultras. I thought the movie could have had more 20-30hz bass.

The .50 cal really showed how quickly and accurately our Ultra's respond...that was impressive.

That is a great scene. The whole movie has great LFE. Not very deep but there is more to bass than just the deep stuff.

Maybe my system isnt setup right but i find that movie to movie the level of bass changes. One movie will sometimes hit harder then another.

Is there 1 movie that some one could sugest i could set my over all level to and then never have to worry about any other movies peaking higher or harder then the one i adjust it to?

Im more worried about my bass then everything else because it can sometimes be unexpected.

Would Transformers 2 be a good one?

I would use Cloverfield. The bass and the vocals are loud and if you calibrate flat with that movie then all others will sound great.

I wish we had a waterfall on the .50 cal scene. Before I sent it back to blockbuster I tested it again and at my normal listening volume the .50 cal shots each registered a chest pounding 110db from my listening position. I just wish they would have used that gun more. :)

I wish we had a waterfall on the .50 cal scene. Before I sent it back to blockbuster I tested it again and at my normal listening volume the .50 cal shots each registered a chest pounding 110db from my listening position. I just wish they would have used that gun more. :)

Here you go. Too sick and tired now to post rest of them.:(

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/gijoe50calfires.jpg

Thanks...looks like 38-39hz is the hottest area.

Finally watched The Flight of the Phoenix last night. It fully satisfied me. It had nice bass throughout and two scenes in particullar had deep bass for a sustained period. The first was during the inital plance crash and the second was towards the end when the sand storm hits and the fuselage was rolling. Very good bass, definately belongs on this list.

Had my windows rattling on many occasions.

Finally watched The Flight of the Phoenix last night. It fully satisfied me. It had nice bass throughout and two scenes in particullar had deep bass for a sustained period. The first was during the inital plance crash and the second was towards the end when the sand storm hits and the fuselage was rolling. Very good bass, definately belongs on this list.

Had my windows rattling on many occasions.

I just got that one in today, i hope i got the right version.

I got the wrong version of the haunted, even though it did have a ton of bass it didnt seem that great. Didnt know i needed the DTS version.

STAR TREK!

Movie: Awesome
Sound: Awesome:
LFE: Excellent! Not at all overly hot, but this soundtrack uses the entire LFE channel, from 3Hz to 120Hz. There are many more scenes than these, so grab this flick and crank it!

These SGs were taken by mic at the LP while watching the movie at '00' MVL. They aren't in any order and I won't identify each scene so as not to spoil anything for those who haven't seen it... enjoy:
Chapter 1 when pregnant Mrs Kirk's shuttle leaves the enterprise:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/startrekcpater1.jpg
When Vulcan implodes:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/STVulcanimplodes.jpg
Sorry, I don't remember this one. It's titled 'Dropping out of warp, fire':
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/Droppingoutofwarpfire.jpg
Young Spock lifts off in the Vulcan ship flying old Spock's ship:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/STSpocksship.jpg
Spock's ship goes to warp, then the Romulan ship goes to warp in chase:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/STSpockthenRomulunsgowarp.jpg
Scotty gets Enterprise out of the black hole:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/STpullingawayfromblackhole.jpg
Enterprise drops out of warp at Vulcan, amidst debris:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/STarrivingatVulcan.jpg
Enterprise maiden voyage, "Let's punch it":
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/STpunchit.jpg
Romulan drill boring into Vulcan:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/STgiantrayonVulcan.jpg
Enterprise at Saturn's moon:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/STEnterpriseatSaturn.jpg
Enterprise and Romulan ship at Vulcan just after "Chekov, you have the com":
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/Bosobass/STentalienshipatvulcan.jpg

Bosso

STAR TREK!

Movie: Awesome
Sound: Awesome:
LFE: Excellent! Not at all overly hot, but this soundtrack uses the entire LFE channel, from 3Hz to 120Hz. There are many more scenes than these, so grab this flick and crank it!

These SGs were taken by mic at the LP while watching the movie at '00' MVL. They aren't in any order and I won't identify each scene so as not to spoil anything for those who haven't seen it... enjoy:



Those look awesome! The last three are particularly interesting.

If it isn't too much trouble would you please list the scenes inside spoiler tags?
Like this.

I can't wait to see Star Trek, after Ralph's 97 rating (100 for audio) and Bosso's graphs, it should put a smile on most of our faces.

I can't wait to see Star Trek, after Ralph's 97 rating (100 for audio) and Bosso's graphs, it should put a smile on most of our faces.

I am going to watch my netflix copy tomorrow.

Star Trek = Awesomeness

The scenes when they go into warp drive are awesome. Not low bass but it packs a punch.

Star Trek = Awesomeness



Agreed. It's my personal favorite movie of 2009. I hope they crank one out every two years.

Agreed. It's my personal favorite movie of 2009. I hope they crank one out every two years.

Lousy netflix is shipping today the 9th movie in my Q!! I was really hoping to get Star Trek, the new Ice Age,or Monsters INC. Instead I'm getting Knowing. It got a good review at Blu Ray.com so hopefully I'll like it...;

I am going to watch my netflix copy tomorrow.

Just watched the movie. I am not a Trekkie but the movie was good and the bass was excellent. I really loved the warp bursts. They sounded like fifty cals. There was definitely tons of bass that you will feel if you have a sub that can dig deep enough.

I'm really looking forward to Star Trek as well. Picked up the Blu-Ray last night, and I'm finishing up my Maelstrom 21" sub this week. Should be a great weekend for movies!

I'm really looking forward to Star Trek as well. Picked up the Blu-Ray last night, and I'm finishing up my Maelstrom 21" sub this week. Should be a great weekend for movies!

Nice.....

Build thread or pics?


dbl

Nice.....

Build thread or pics?


dbl

Here is one that I know of:

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/exodus-audio/22709-maelstrom-x-21-15cu-sealed-build.html

:)

man, I could use a few 21" mael Xes

Tremendous bass throughout the movie. Especially during the scenes where the power goes out. I rate it 4.5 to 5 stars.:cool:

Here is one that I know of:

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/exodus-audio/22709-maelstrom-x-21-15cu-sealed-build.html

:)

Thanks...

dbl

I agree, Star Trek was great for sound, and a good movie, just a little too many lens flares for my tastes, but that's a minor nitpick....

bosso, I am thinking that a few of your waterfalls are warp scenes?

JSS

I agree, Star Trek was great for sound, and a good movie, just a little too many lens flares for my tastes, but that's a minor nitpick....

bosso, I am thinking that a few of your waterfalls are warp scenes?

JSS

Agree, great movie. I enjoyed it through out. I love it when they warp..alot of punch. The warp punch was deeper on the bigger ships.

To all you frustrated NetFlix people- Don't you have a RedBox nearby? $1 per night rentals of regular DVDs. No Blu ray yet. It beats waiting on NetFlix for a couple of weeks. I'm watching Star Trek tonight.

To all you frustrated NetFlix people- Don't you have a RedBox nearby? $1 per night rentals of regular DVDs. No Blu ray yet. It beats waiting on NetFlix for a couple of weeks. I'm watching Star Trek tonight.
Netflix actually owns RedBox, many people do not know. Unfortunately the accounts can't be used for free RedBox rentals.
*btw, if you google RedBox codes you can get free rental for a single day*

To all you frustrated NetFlix people- Don't you have a RedBox nearby? $1 per night rentals of regular DVDs. No Blu ray yet. It beats waiting on NetFlix for a couple of weeks. I'm watching Star Trek tonight.

That's the only reason I canceled Netflix. Long waits and a 3day turn around.

Watched ST BR last nite myself, ****, and I been watching it since it was on, on Sunday Nights in the 60's...hehe.....love the characters and the special effects...

Its not like they are effects anymore either..

What does everyone think is the best scene for bass demo purposes?

I only watched it once so far with the wife and therefore kept my peaks to 110db or so...only about 75% up to normal..

Bossobass results may not be obtained at anyone elses house ...ROFLMAO.

That dude wins the bass freak award no doubt....Personally I dont see how multiple large epiks wouldnt do it for "normal" people..

Watched ST BR last nite myself, ****, and I been watching it since it was on, on Sunday Nights in the 60's...hehe.....love the characters and the special effects...

Its not like they are effects anymore either..

What does everyone think is the best scene for bass demo purposes?

I only watched it once so far with the wife and therefore kept my peaks to 110db or so...only about 75% up to normal..

Bossobass results may not be obtained at anyone elses house ...ROFLMAO.

That dude wins the bass freak award no doubt....Personally I dont see how multiple large epiks wouldnt do it for "normal" people..

There was alot of scenes but the one I remembered is when all the ships going into warp drive one at atime.

Watched ST BR last nite myself, ****, and I been watching it since it was on, on Sunday Nights in the 60's...hehe.....love the characters and the special effects...

Its not like they are effects anymore either..

What does everyone think is the best scene for bass demo purposes?

I only watched it once so far with the wife and therefore kept my peaks to 110db or so...only about 75% up to normal..

Bossobass results may not be obtained at anyone elses house ...ROFLMAO.

That dude wins the bass freak award no doubt....Personally I dont see how multiple large epiks wouldnt do it for "normal" people..

I think my favorite bass scene is at the end when the Enterprise is having trouble warping....... Nice LONG LFE moment here and feels like my whole house is going to come crashing down!:eek: Having said that, I think there are better films purely for bass demo purposes (atleast as far as power is concerned), but this one is just so well done overall and still has some killer LFE. The thing about the LFE in this one is it is so detailed and few films have the LFE detail of this one IMO.

I think Star Trek used bass very effectively at times when bass seemed appropriate. This is unlike some movies that sound like thunder when someone's just slamming a car door.

I think Star Trek used bass very effectively at times when bass seemed appropriate. This is unlike some movies that sound like thunder when someone's just slamming a car door.


Agreed.:)

I think Star Trek used bass very effectively at times when bass seemed appropriate. This is unlike some movies that sound like thunder when someone's just slamming a car door.
Like the entire movie, from start to finish, Hot Fuzz.
(It was well placed only because it was comical.)

Like the entire movie, from start to finish, Hot Fuzz.
(It was well placed only because it was comical.)

Good point. I personaly did not enjoy Hot Fuzz, and now that you mention it, the door closes in it were rediclous. Maybe we should nickname Hot Fuzz "Hot LFE Door Slams"

Nice.....

Build thread or pics?


dbl

Here is one that I know of:

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/exodus-audio/22709-maelstrom-x-21-15cu-sealed-build.html

:)


That would be my build log! :p


To all you frustrated NetFlix people- Don't you have a RedBox nearby? $1 per night rentals of regular DVDs. No Blu ray yet. It beats waiting on NetFlix for a couple of weeks. I'm watching Star Trek tonight.


Actually, Red Box has Blu-Ray in some limited Red Box machines...but they are very few and far between. If they were to have Blu-Ray, even if it were $2 a night, I'd be all over them! I've all but given up on DVD since picking up my first Blu-Ray player and disc.

I know it's old news now, but I finally watched TF2 all the way through last night and was it ever chock full of bass! My whole room felt like it was sitting on top of a giant buttkicker :).

Surprisingly, I didn't dislike the movie as strongly this time through. Maybe it's because the expectations weren't there this time. Sure, there was way too much dog humping and stupid one-liners, but I found it a bit more enjoyable than I did in my first viewing.

Raven- how do you find which Red Box kiosks carry Blu Ray movies? The website doesn't seem to carry that kind of info. Is it just Hit & miss? Are the discs labeled as Blu Ray so regular renters don't get a Blu Ray that they can't play?

STAR TREK!

Movie: Awesome
Sound: Awesome:
LFE: Excellent!


I completely agree, though I spent more time watching the IXL move on this one than I did watching the movie itself :D

The LFE is right up there with my DTS copy of The Haunting, for me.

Agree, great movie. I enjoyed it through out. I love it when they warp..alot of punch. The warp punch was deeper on the bigger ships.

+1 They even give you one more nice warp punch at the ending credits.

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That's great.

Good point. I personaly did not enjoy Hot Fuzz, and now that you mention it, the door closes in it were rediclous. Maybe we should nickname Hot Fuzz "Hot LFE Door Slams"


But that is why it is awesome......it is making fun of action films that overuse LFE for situations like a footstep or door slam.

My vote also goes to tier 0 for Star Trek 2009. Finally got to watch this last night and was just grinning :D at the well placed LFE moments. I can also see how all reviewers gave this movie a perfect score. I plan on watching it again this afternoon after the chores get done.

But that is why it is awesome......it is making fun of action films that overuse LFE for situations like a footstep or door slam.

A Big +1

Waterfalls of some Dolby Trailers...

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How do i know wich version of haunting has DTS? is it the signature series version?

How do i know wich version of haunting has DTS? is it the signature series version?

check out the 2nd cover in this link. it has DTS on the top left of the front cover

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews2/haunting.html

The Haunting in DTS is getting hard to find, at least in Canada. On a trip to Regina I must have hit just about every store in town I could think of, and nobody even had the movie in stock let alone that version.

My copy ended up coming off eBay.

The Haunting in DTS is getting hard to find, at least in Canada. On a trip to Regina I must have hit just about every store in town I could think of, and nobody even had the movie in stock let alone that version.

My copy ended up coming off eBay.


Yeah i looked on e-bay and thats why i wondered what to look for. I asked a few of them if the version they had said "DTS" on the front they all said NO IT DOES NOT! lol

The Haunting in DTS is getting hard to find, at least in Canada. On a trip to Regina I must have hit just about every store in town I could think of, and nobody even had the movie in stock let alone that version.

My copy ended up coming off eBay.

I just purchased mine off of eBay for a little over 5.00 dollars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=340862067826&mediaitem=1&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I just purchased mine off of eBay for a little over 5.00 dollars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=340862067826&mediaitem=1&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

what! how did i miss that? i swear i searched e-bay last night and even asked a few if theirs said DTS at the top.

I did find a few more using your "The Haunting (DVD, 2000" search.

Ill have to look around here localy.

what! how did i miss that? i swear i searched e-bay last night and even asked a few if theirs said DTS at the top.

I did find a few more using your "The Haunting (DVD, 2000" search.

Ill have to look around here localy.

Just keeping looking on eBay. I got mine for $.99 plus $3 shipping. When I received it, the DVD case wrapping was still on it. I almost didn't open it. :D

Ill have to look around here localy.

Be patient - it'll pop up again. It's worth the wait, believe me :)

When I got my copy, there were only about 3 other sellers I could find with the DTS version. I used a catch-all search to find mine - went into the DVD section on eBay first and then searched for just "Haunting." Had to wade through a pile of Haunting in Connecticut and other discs, but I eventually got what I wanted. Not many of them advertise the DTS soundtrack in the auction title, but sometimes you can catch them with a "Haunting DTS" search.

The DVD was a replacement for an old VHS copy I had, one of the last I ever bought on VHS. The upgrade was a real treat. I got to see this movie in the theater on a special Halloween night screening at a theater that had good audio, and now I can finally say my home theater beats what I heard that night.

Be patient - it'll pop up again. It's worth the wait, believe me :)

When I got my copy, there were only about 3 other sellers I could find with the DTS version. I used a catch-all search to find mine - went into the DVD section on eBay first and then searched for just "Haunting." Had to wade through a pile of Haunting in Connecticut and other discs, but I eventually got what I wanted. Not many of them advertise the DTS soundtrack in the auction title, but sometimes you can catch them with a "Haunting DTS" search.

The DVD was a replacement for an old VHS copy I had, one of the last I ever bought on VHS. The upgrade was a real treat. I got to see this movie in the theater on a special Halloween night screening at a theater that had good audio, and now I can finally say my home theater beats what I heard that night.


Thats cool, im wanting to watch the movie again but want to wait for a DTS version. The regular version had good bass but wasnt what i hoped. My setup is better then it was when i watched it then also.

Do the dts version have different audio mix than normal dd version of haunting, or is the difference just in bass levels? Can some one make charts from it, i want to compare it to my signature version.:)

what! how did i miss that? i swear i searched e-bay last night and even asked a few if theirs said DTS at the top.

I did find a few more using your "The Haunting (DVD, 2000" search.

Ill have to look around here localy.

I believe the dts version came out in 2000. That is how I google it and it came up on eBAy. I have been looking for a while so I got lucky.

It looks like there are some copies available on Amazon. If you search for "haunting DTS" it should come up (and say DTS in the details). I bought a new copy from an Amazon seller earlier this year for $5.

Back to bass,milkfart.

Just watched Star Trek on Blu-Ray last night. I definitely have to agree with the 10 out of 10 in SQ. The experience was just truly amazing. Now only if I can talk my wife into letting me buy a sub that goes into the teens. I feel like I was missing a lot with a sub that only goes into the mid 20's. :'(

A quick and cheap way to get some extra dbs down low would be the tuba home theater diy plans. I'm building one now. Check it out over at Bills site.


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I think i will take little vacation for now.

Do the dts version have different audio mix than normal dd version of haunting, or is the difference just in bass levels? Can some one make charts from it, i want to compare it to my signature version.:)

Just watched the haunting in dts. This movie has to have the strongest bass I have heard in a long time. Including cloverfield,wow,and star trek.

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I'm betting this plot is from one of the warps.


And I'd bet this one too!
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Those really were impressive...118db impressive on some! Star Trek Blu-Ray a must own. And I'm NOT a Trekie!!! Just a movie and LFE lover!

STAR TREK!

Movie: Awesome
Sound: Awesome:
LFE: Excellent! Not at all overly hot, but this soundtrack uses the entire LFE channel, from 3Hz to 120Hz. There are many more scenes than these, so grab this flick and crank it!

These SGs were taken by mic at the LP while watching the movie at '00' MVL. They aren't in any order and I won't identify each scene so as not to spoil anything for those who haven't seen it... enjoy:

Bosso

Could you PM me the movie's time stamp for the 3 Hz waterfall.

Thanks.

I think it is safe now to label those plots with timestamps.

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This has more than likely been mentioned before but Eragon has some decent bass. The forrest scene in his sleep is very intense my fireplace mesh, kitchen neon lite cover and everything else that is not nailed down vibrates like crazy!

Just finished Star Trek and I have to say that I am absolutely floored by every aspect of this movie from the story line to the sound quality, score, bass dynamics, and picture quality.

IMO, this movie trumps them all for 2009 including T2: RotF

guess im the only one who thought star trek was so so

guess im the only one who thought star trek was so so

Nah, I'm right there with you concerning the plot. I was decently impressed with the LFE and special effects. There are issues with the story, "and science". But if you can get past those, then it's a good flick.

... There are issues with the story, "and science". But if you can get past those, then it's a good flick.

I fully agree, and why I found it 'fascinating'. In that respect, it was a perfect homage to the original television series, in an updated sort of way.


Tim

just watched gi joe...ok in the bass but it seemed to miss the low shaking stuff...and there seemed like there were many areas in the movie that it just didn't have it when it should of...it just felt strange...you could feel the gunshots in your chest but some things, like crashes, felt dull with little to no real low stuff, kinda left me saying, is my sub on, I swear that scene should of shook the whole house??...maybe it was just me, but with that regard, I was kinda dissapointed.

Nah, I'm right there with you concerning the plot. I was decently impressed with the LFE and special effects. There are issues with the story, "and science". But if you can get past those, then it's a good flick.

I couldnt get past the 2 main actors playing spock and kirk. I got it to hear the sound on my system but i didnt even care for it in the theater.

just watched gi joe...ok in the bass but it seemed to miss the low shaking stuff...and there seemed like there were many areas in the movie that it just didn't have it when it should of...it just felt strange...you could feel the gunshots in your chest but some things, like crashes, felt dull with little to no real low stuff, kinda left me saying, is my sub on, I swear that scene should of shook the whole house??...maybe it was just me, but with that regard, I was kinda dissapointed.

I agree it did seem to miss alot of spots where i would of wanted a little LFE and then i thought some of the gunshots sounded like fake canons. It was to much of everything.

when i first saw star trek in the theater i was blown away by what a good movie it was

then when i got home it sunk in that they changed the whole history of the show

that all the star trek VHS laserdiscs and dvd's on my shelf never happened

it pissed me off for a while but i'm over it now :)

watched G.I. joe..for 10 minutes then we unanimously agreed to eject it!

How do you decide in the first 10 minutes whether a movie is good or not?

How do you decide in the first 10 minutes whether a movie is good or not? CG was bad..acting was bad..yada yada yada!

I had better things to do!

CG was bad..acting was bad..yada yada yada!

I had better things to do!

WTF? Seriously?



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when i first saw star trek in the theater i was blown away by what a good movie it was

then when i got home it sunk in that they changed the whole history of the show

that all the star trek VHS laserdiscs and dvd's on my shelf never happened

it pissed me off for a while but i'm over it now :)



**Possible Spoiler**






They really didn't change the history because all of that still happened in a different timeline. Spock is still the same Spock from all of the other movies.

**Possible Spoiler**






They really didn't change the history because all of that still happened in a different timeline. Spock is still the same Spock from all of the other movies.

the question is, is the old time line dead ?

will there be more movies or tv shows based on it or is this new time line taking over the franchise ?

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Man this looks awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do that for us!

the question is, is the old time line dead ?

will there be more movies or tv shows based on it or is this new time line taking over the franchise ?

Who knows? In the Star Trek realm, almost anything is possible. In the past they have brought Kirk back from the dead. They brought Spock back from the dead (sort of). They have changed timelines before. As long as you incorporate the concept of time travel, anything can seem possible.

Terminator Salvation will be a blind buy for me!

I think my favorite bass scene is at the end when the Enterprise is having trouble warping....... Nice LONG LFE moment here and feels like my whole house is going to come crashing down!:eek: Having said that, I think there are better films purely for bass demo purposes (atleast as far as power is concerned), but this one is just so well done overall and still has some killer LFE. The thing about the LFE in this one is it is so detailed and few films have the LFE detail of this one IMO.
Toe,

Would you be able to site some time stamps for this scene?

I think my favorite bass scene is at the end when the Enterprise is having trouble warping....... Nice LONG LFE moment here and feels like my whole house is going to come crashing down!:eek:

I had this happen with that movie "The mist" near the begining just after the first lady left wow that one hit me hard :eek:

Having said that, I think there are better films purely for bass demo purposes (atleast as far as power is concerned.

Can you name a few?

Man this looks awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do that for us!

No problemo, and i recommend to crank volume some notch up when that missile flies in opening.:eek::D

I am hoping that if there is another Star Trek based on the one just released that they close some holes. Spock & Ohura? where did that come from? Hopefully they will also show how Pike was injured to where the original Star Trek pilot 'The Menagerie' begins. Hopefully lots of LFE! :D

... Spock & Ohura? where did that come from?

+1 ... Really.


Tim

HOLY "MONSTERS INC" BLU RAY LFE

I thought the DVD was something.......the Blu-Ray blew me away tonight.

We have to get a couple waterfalls of that.

1. When the blow up the sock
2. When the baby laughs and creates a power surge.

Those two scenes were unreal!

HOLY "MONSTERS INC" BLU RAY LFE

I thought the DVD was something.......the Blu-Ray blew me away tonight.

We have to get a couple waterfalls of that.

1. When the blow up the sock
2. When the baby laughs and creates a power surge.

Those two scenes were unreal!

Awesome, I ordered Monsters Inc. along with Up and Cars the other day, all blind buys for me but they were only about $10 each!

I did the same...non-blind though.

I've seen them all and they are all must own on Blu Ray!

Good deal!

+1 ... Really.


Tim

Well i guess once you go black......you know the rest. :D

(She's actually dominican)

Teminator was absolutely sick ! For sound imo, it's a bit better than Transformer's.
Decent movie that hit's pretty damn hard. Anything that flies in that movie totally hammered my sectional from 14 feet :).....Star Trek was awesome as well even if you've never watched it before.

Toe,

Would you be able to site some time stamps for this scene?


I will throw it in in a bit and grab a time stamp:)

I had this happen with that movie "The mist" near the begining just after the first lady left wow that one hit me hard :eek:



Can you name a few?

Nice!:D I should have watched the Mist in the HT instead of upstairs it sounds like:(

As far as better bass films purely from a power perspective......Terminator Salvation, Iron Man, Transformers 1 and 2, The Incredible Hulk, Hellboy 2, X-Men 3 and Cloverfield just to name a few. All these films at their most powerful LFE moments are a bit better than Trek. Just my opinion though. When I think of Star Trek, the first word that comes to mind is balance not bass.......this is certainly not a bad thing though as this track is fantastic and of course the LFE/bass is still awesome;)!

Teminator was absolutely sick ! For sound imo, it's a bit better than Transformer's.
Decent movie that hit's pretty damn hard. Anything that flies in that movie totally hammered my sectional from 14 feet :).....Star Trek was awesome as well even if you've never watched it before.

Have to agree with you on that Helmutz, Terminator is awesome!Wow watched it last night and it definitely brought the house down!

I will also agree that terminator was more enjoyable onthe bass department. JMO

Terminator-Sal was def a LFE movie...BUT I really think that it was recorded 4db HOT. That alone makes the LFE seem more powerful.

I wish there was a way to normalize ALL movies so we had a better baseline for comparison.

Terminator-Sal was def a LFE movie...BUT I really think that it was recorded 4db HOT. That alone makes the LFE seem more powerful.

I wish there was a way to normalize ALL movies so we had a better baseline for comparison.

That would be nice if they did that. I'm not sure, maybe it's the way i have my system set up. I wouldn't say it was recorded hot at all. All DTS on my system plays much louder than Dolby does. Say, Darknight and Star Trek, sound totally incredible but hit about 10db less than say, Incredible Hulk, Teminator and Transformer's 2, all at the same listening level. The Dolbies hit around 110db and the Dts' hit around 119db for my system. I posted a few month's back asking if anyone heard what the big 3 were recorded in...2/3 Dts :)....i bought all 3 and couldn't be happier, all terrific movies and each has a distinct sound to them. Transformer's 2 5 Stars, Star Trek 4.0, Terminator 5.0..

That is my point...if you crank the dolby up more you will simply equal the DTS.

The DTS doesn't sound BETTER...it just sounds LOUDER.

watched term-salv...lfe=holly crap! I now own it!...good flick

watched ice age-dino...lfe=excellent! I will be buying it for sure...funny and also a good flick

watched gi joe again to check the low end out...lfe=Iam now completely unimpressed...flick stunk, even worse the 2nd time...glad I didn't buy it!...its going back to netflix...its holding up my other movies.

equilibrium...lfe=dissapointed...was hoping gunshots would hit you in the chest harder.

Looks like it is going to be a good weekend for me! Netflix will be delivering Terminator salvation and start trek. Nice. My 18's will be getting a workout. I love watching movies for the first time with my setup. I had previously seen ROTF at the theater so I just skipped to the suggested bass scenes, just not the same as when it sneaks up on you.

Looks like it is going to be a good weekend for me! Netflix will be delivering Terminator salvation.

:mad: Mine says "Very Long Wait"! :mad:


dbl

:mad: Mine says "Very Long Wait"! :mad:


dbl

deff worth it to just go buy it. Man you will not be dissapointed by the LFE on this disc...just a real treat! This is the type of disc that rewards having a system worthy of breaking stuff :)

That is my point...if you crank the dolby up more you will simply equal the DTS.

The DTS doesn't sound BETTER...it just sounds LOUDER.


I did not find TS to be any louder than the typical DTS-MA title.......I watched at -1 from ref which is about average for DTS-MA in my HT.

Even if it is louder, I dont think that is why it is more impressive as far as pure LFE power compared to Star Trek. The 2 mixes are just dif in my opinion with Star Trek being very balanced with no real stand out element and TS definately tilts the mix toward the LFE channel. I LOVE both audio tracks, but for pure LFE power TS beats out Trek no question IMO.

Finally watched Star Trek last night at home. Very balanced mix, as others have said. LFE wasn't very prominent overall, though there was a good punch when ships went to warp. However, my subwoofer only gets me strong output to ~16hz, so I'm missing any low-teens and single-digit goodness that may be present. Overall, great movie, excellent soundtrack. Not the bass feast some of us bassheads seem to want from every single movie produced, but very enjoyable.

What's wrong with U-571 in DTS-HD MA? When the depth charges explode underwater, nothing special. The original DTS - it was like a bomb went off in my room. Anyone else have this experience?

Maybe just turn it up? The DTS track may be 4db louder than the DTS-MA track.

hi gary, i don't have the dvd to compare it to but on my bluray of u571 the depth charge scene is great on my system, the bass hits so hard you can feel the air vibrate around you. I have 2 x svs pb12-plus/2 subs.

I'm using SVS PB12 Ultra for blu ray, a few yrs. ago with the DTS version i used a SVS cylindrical 32". Just seems like the blu ray version has a very different mix with the low end. Caliibrated both subs with MC12 and mic kit and did not change room placement. Maybe i should reconnect the older sub and take a listen to the blu ray. Will get a copy of the DTS and do an A/B. Next week replacing the PB12 Ultra with a Paradigm Studio SUB and perfect bass kit. Sub will go in same location, should be interesting to hear depth charges with a sub that is dialed in!

Finally got around to watching the DTS version of Haunting. I gotta say, that so far has the best soundtrack that I've heard. I thought War of the Worlds would never be beat but Haunting wore me out!!

Has anyone seen the new harry Potter movie. I bought it blindly.

HOLY "MONSTERS INC" BLU RAY LFE

I thought the DVD was something.......the Blu-Ray blew me away tonight.

We have to get a couple waterfalls of that.

1. When the blow up the sock
2. When the baby laughs and creates a power surge.

Those two scenes were unreal!


Can we get someone to do a waterfall of the two mentioned scenes? PLEASE :D

I wish there was a way to normalize ALL movies so we had a better baseline for comparison.

They do... it's called dialog normalization.


We all mix to a standard (unlike music mixers) and if you figure out what your reference is at home, and compensate for any dialog normalization offset (on both DTS and Dolby tracks) you will be listening to the mix as we intended..

Each film I mix is different that the next, and I would say they have an average swing between 3-5db overall.... they are all just different, and it's only really apparent when you play them back to back... If you settle in to listen to it in a theater, your ears and mind will adjust pretty quickly.

Some directors like the dialog at certain levels, which they feel give the louder stuff more impact (i.e. Michael Mann and Spielberg) some like it in your face...

Hey FilmMxer,

So why the -4dB dialogue normalization on the IMAX version of Transformers and zero dialogue normalization on the non-IMAX version? Did separate mixers put to gether the different soundtracks?

Thanks,

JSS

Was just able to watch Star Trek in it full glory on my theater. WOW I was very impressed, I am no fan boy but the movie was very entertaining, amazing picture and the sound and bass was stellar!! My 2 18 IB was pumping out some air. With a 120 inch screen and the sub that I have, I will never go to a theater for an action flick again. Excited to watch Terminator on it.

Does anyone know if there´s a similar thread anywhere else on the net? Preferably one that gets updated...

They do... it's called dialog normalization.


We all mix to a standard (unlike music mixers) and if you figure out what your reference is at home, and compensate for any dialog normalization offset (on both DTS and Dolby tracks) you will be listening to the mix as we intended..

Each film I mix is different that the next, and I would say they have an average swing between 3-5db overall.... they are all just different, and it's only really apparent when you play them back to back... If you settle in to listen to it in a theater, your ears and mind will adjust pretty quickly.

Some directors like the dialog at certain levels, which they feel give the louder stuff more impact (i.e. Michael Mann and Spielberg) some like it in your face...


I mean normalize them so there isn't that 3-5db swing.

I want to be able to play all my movies at the same volume and not have to adjust up or down to make one movie sound like the next.

I am late to the party but the giant robot scene is my new reference demo scene from Terminator Salvation.

I lasted about 15 minutes into GI Joe before I simply couldn't stand it any longer. It was a decent sound mix, but I really don't care if it's good demo material. The film is just horrible.

Anyone have waterfall plots from "The hurt locker"? Especially the .50 cal.

NVRMND: Found them. Damn, the plots looks as awesome as expected :)

I lasted about 15 minutes into GI Joe before I simply couldn't stand it any longer. It was a decent sound mix, but I really don't care if it's good demo material. The film is just horrible. I feel vindicated....I lasted less!:D

At least the chicks in the movie were pretty damn hot.

Otherwise the LFE was ok but the movie sucked. I wasted 90mins on it.

OK, I'll say it... I liked it, a very good popcorn flick. It delivered on abundant LFE and big screen special effects. I say job well done. :p


Tim

A Perfect Getaway, near the end

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Not much bass in this movie but this particular scene has silence before/after so you really feel it. Near reference level signal from ~25-35hz. My ceiling/projector shook.

Has anyone seen the new harry Potter movie. I bought it blindly.

Bought it on Blu-Ray and watched it last night. Best one so far. Amazing visual effects and unbelievable sound. There were quite a few parts that would make for a great demo :D.

anyone check out The Taking of Pelham 123 ?

i was just watching something on my DVR from June and saw a commercial for it

looks like it might be a good bass movie

anyone check out The Taking of Pelham 123 ?

i was just watching something on my DVR from June and saw a commercial for it

looks like it might be a good bass movie

It's not bad in spots, but it's not really that impressive. At least, to me. I even had the IXL running hot for that one.

It's not bad in spots, but it's not really that impressive. At least, to me. I even had the IXL running hot for that one.

ok i'll put that one on my "wait for cable" list :)

if anyone is looking for a cute little Christmas movie with some good bass here and there and some good surround effects also. Polar Express has some of both

anyone check out The Taking of Pelham 123 ?

i was just watching something on my DVR from June and saw a commercial for it

looks like it might be a good bass movie

I rented it. A couple of subway scenes had some bass but nothing to brag about. If you like it when Travolta plays a mean character then it is fun.

I rented it. A couple of subway scenes had some bass but nothing to brag about. If you like it when Travolta plays a mean character then it is fun.

thanks. i thought he was pretty good in Swordfish

thanks. i thought he was pretty good in Swordfish

Yeah but of course his best mean guy was when he played Vic Dikens in Broken Arrow. "Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons? or "I say god-damn what a rush."

Yeah but of course his best mean guy was when he played Vic Dikens in Broken Arrow. "Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons? or "I say god-damn what a rush."

I think the ultimate has to be Faceoff.

thanks. i thought he was pretty good in Swordfish

I just remember Halle Berry's tits.:cool:

I rented it. A couple of subway scenes had some bass but nothing to brag about. If you like it when Travolta plays a mean character then it is fun.

couldn't have said it better myself

Dont know if i missed it but does anybody have any fight club waterfalls?

Who's upadating the OP? and whats going on with waterfalls? i remember around when i first came here there use to be waterfalls on every page. if i had the stuff to do them i would.

And is knowbody recommending bass movie of the month anymore? whats going on guys?

Well i say its between fight club and terminator salvation.

Speaking of Travolta playing a bad guy how about his character in The taking of Phelam 123. I liked that movie alot both travolta and denzel washington were great. As for LFE i doubt there's anything there i watched it really low volume while the family was sleeping.

Who's upadating the OP? and whats going on with waterfalls? i remember around when i first came here there use to be waterfalls on every page. if i had the stuff to do them i would.

And is knowbody recommending bass movie of the month anymore? whats going on guys?

Well i say its between fight club and terminator salvation.

My vote would be for TS, for at least the bass movie of the year, and maybe right now the best bass movie ever produced .

Mind you not the best movie but if we are talking about a rollercoaster ride in the comfort of your HT this has it in spades. My opinion, YMMV. :)

Looks like TS might not hold it's standing very long. I plan on renting this durning X-mas holiday peorid.

From BluRay.com:

District 9 explodes onto Blu-ray with a mesmerizing DTS-HD MA 5.1 lossless soundtrack. A full and exceptionally balanced presentation, Sony's latest system-pushing sonic extravaganza immerses the listener into the world of of the 9th district, distributing every sound with pinpoint accuracy to create a seamless 360-degree living, breathing environment. From subtle background ambience -- voices over intercoms or shuffling debris around the slums -- to explosive shootouts and high-pitched whines, this DTS mix delivers a full range of sonic goodness that never misses a beat whether the action be near or far, loud or quiet, and anything and everything in between. Gunfire crackles with startling precision as rounds explode in rapid-fire succession from automatic weapons, while the wide array of alien sidearms each deliver a unique and frightening sonic signature. Most impressive about District 9's soundtrack, however, is the tight, clean, and precise bass; a seat-rattling but never overwhelming experience, the low end is decidedly powerful but not abundantly messy. District 9 gives the subwoofer a prodigious workout that's sure to test its limits, not to mention the structural integrity of the surrounding structure. Rounded out by pitch-perfect dialogue reproduction, District 9 delivers a reference-quality lossless soundtrack that perfectly aids the visuals in fully immersing the viewer into the alien slums of Johannesburg.

I'm also betting that 2012 will have some pretty good bass on DVD and Blu-ray.

Looks like TS might not hold it's standing very long. I plan on renting this durning X-mas holiday peorid.

From BluRay.com:

District 9 explodes onto Blu-ray with a mesmerizing DTS-HD MA 5.1 lossless soundtrack. A full and exceptionally balanced presentation, Sony's latest system-pushing sonic extravaganza immerses the listener into the world of of the 9th district, distributing every sound with pinpoint accuracy to create a seamless 360-degree living, breathing environment. From subtle background ambience -- voices over intercoms or shuffling debris around the slums -- to explosive shootouts and high-pitched whines, this DTS mix delivers a full range of sonic goodness that never misses a beat whether the action be near or far, loud or quiet, and anything and everything in between. Gunfire crackles with startling precision as rounds explode in rapid-fire succession from automatic weapons, while the wide array of alien sidearms each deliver a unique and frightening sonic signature. Most impressive about District 9's soundtrack, however, is the tight, clean, and precise bass; a seat-rattling but never overwhelming experience, the low end is decidedly powerful but not abundantly messy. District 9 gives the subwoofer a prodigious workout that's sure to test its limits, not to mention the structural integrity of the surrounding structure. Rounded out by pitch-perfect dialogue reproduction, District 9 delivers a reference-quality lossless soundtrack that perfectly aids the visuals in fully immersing the viewer into the alien slums of Johannesburg.

Slurp! :D


dbl

Slurp! :D

Slurpee! ;)

HH

My vote would be for TS, for at least the bass movie of the year, and maybe right now the best bass movie ever produced .

Mind you not the best movie but if we are talking about a rollercoaster ride in the comfort of your HT this has it in spades. My opinion, YMMV. :)


As much as I love TS for audio, I certainly dont think it is the overall best bass movie ever. The best part is the gas station scene up through the bridge (which is insanely good), but besides this it is just scattered shorter moments of bass(of which there are quite a few). Something like Matrix Revolutions which I just recently watched again as well, the last hour of which is pretty much one giant audio demo with ridiculous amounts of LFE is overall more impressive for bass IMO........By the time the final battle is over between Neo and Smith, you are flat worn out from all the room pressurization and LFE! Transformers from about the 1:42-2:12 mark is overall better as well IMO. Cloverfield and TIH are both atleast as good IMO as well. ROTK has some amazing LFE sequences as well............TS is certainly up there but best ever? Not in my opinion.........I would go with among the best though;)

I do agree about best bass movie this year though.

Ok I would go along with that. I also use that same scene from Transformers 1 as being demo worthy.

I have not seen nor plan on seeing Cloverfield so I guess my opinion is slightly skewed. But I still think TS was better than TIH and the Flight of the Phoenix.

Ok I would go along with that. I also use that same scene from Transformers 1 as being demo worthy.

I have not seen nor plan on seeing Cloverfield so I guess my opinion is slightly skewed. But I still think TS was better than TIH and the Flight of the Phoenix.

I have not seen FOTP yet.........have it sitting here and will get to it.

TIH for me is atleast as good as TS, but I respect your opinion.

If you love LFE, and it sounds like you do:), give Cloverfield a rent. Why dont want to atleast rent it? One of, if not the best (arguably) LFE BRs to date.

I have not seen FOTP yet.........have it sitting here and will get to it.

TIH for me is atleast as good as TS, but I respect your opinion.

If you love LFE, and it sounds like you do:), give Cloverfield a rent. Why dont want to atleast rent it? One of, if not the best (arguably) LFE BRs to date.

I have four subs what do you think? lol

I really have a problem with "shaky cam" or whatever you call it. So it would be hard to watch but maybe we will give it a try. Thanks Toe

I have four subs what do you think? lol

I really have a problem with "shaky cam" or whatever you call it. So it would be hard to watch but maybe we will give it a try. Thanks Toe


Gotcha......Very good reason as I know this is a problem for quite a few people.

I love TS and use it for demo but WOTW and Cloverfield are still king when it comes to blow you away bass.

I would put up Terminator for the simple fact it hit's from the time you push close on the bluray player :). I haven't watched a movie that hit for 2 hours solid, not just a scene or two.
Maybe not movie of the year, but sound for sure.

District 9 has very good low bass scenes when it hits but it does not do it often. The effects are cool though.

District 9 has very good low bass scenes when it hits but it does not do it often. The effects are cool though.


I agree, nice sound mix with some good low bass, but nothing earth shattering.

I'd give it a 3.5/5 in the Bass dept.

Movie, however, was excellent.

That's weird. I actually felt that District 9 BD had the weakest DTS MA soundtrack I've heard yet. It lacked any authority and the moderate LFE was few and far between. The movie itself was OK as I understand it was supposed to be an allegory.

In fact, the audio experience was so pathetic I had to put in my Cloverfield BD and Star Trek BD afterward, as I was concerned that something was broke with my A/V gear. Nope. Cloverfield rocks the house apart, so I'm not quite sure what the deal was.

My 2 cents.....

A sleeper movie with a lot of bass is Monsters vs Aliens. It was played at the same level as Terminator Salvation, but the other half was keeping on saying turn it down. Other thoughts?

A sleeper movie with a lot of bass is Monsters vs Aliens. It was played at the same level as Terminator Salvation, but the other half was keeping on saying turn it down. Other thoughts?

It's good, especially i like scene where that big alien robot points that light to ginormica in city. That was some nice quick 20hz whump and after that is some great building grumbling down bass too.

Just watched my regular christmas movie Die hard and i was totally forgot how nice those machine guns sound there.:)

A sleeper movie with a lot of bass is Monsters vs Aliens. It was played at the same level as Terminator Salvation, but the other half was keeping on saying turn it down. Other thoughts?

Awesome bass movie:) I thought the track overall was on par with Kung Fu Panda as a matter of fact.........I voted reference in the audio tier thread.

Speaking of awesome bass movies, Polar Express!:eek: Did my 1/year viewing last night and my god.......when the train arrives is just..........:eek: The whole roller coaster train scene and just before this is also.........:eek: For LFE. Great track all around as well.

Okay, just got a chance to watch most of Terminator Salvation. Wow. It is intense! Great mix of the low frequencies. I would say a very solid 4.5 to 5 star movie. LFE is ABUNDANT!!

Awesome bass movie:) I thought the track overall was on par with Kung Fu Panda as a matter of fact.........I voted reference in the audio tier thread.

Could you please link me to the thread your talking about?

HH

Could you please link me to the thread your talking about?

HH

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1190265

This thread is a sticky at the top of the blu ray software forum.


Hope you will participate.........we need more people voting over there:)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1190265

This thread is a sticky at the top of the blu ray software forum.


Hope you will participate.........we need more people voting over there:)

Thanks for the link...:)

HH

monster vs aliens...excellent bass

district 9...good bass as well...not alot but its there...last 30 minutes there was some fun bass.

Ice age, dinosaurs...very good bass

Watched terminator salvation yesterday and wow! reference bass from beginning to end. i had a smile on face at the gas station scene. those noises the robot makes were so powerful, i thought my speakers were going to pop.

Ready for a second viewing at higher levels. :D

hi everyone

been lurking on this thread for a while and find it very entertaining, glad to see so many bass lovers out there. Not sure if this was asked before but does everyone participating in the thread here have multiple 18' drivers being powered by 4000 watt Behringer amps? Can i experience all these room pressurizations that everyone talks about with a single 12' jl audio w7 ( i dont own one but am currently getting into building a simple sealed sub and this would be the driver i'd love to have). I know it depends on size of the room & amp power but does everyone here run multiple drivers or are there people who have single driver subs that experience the kind of tactile bass that everyone here talks about?

just wondering if i should go ahead with my build or start saving up

thanks.

hi everyone

been lurking on this thread for a while and find it very entertaining, glad to see so many bass lovers out there. Not sure if this was asked before but does everyone participating in the thread here have multiple 18' drivers being powered by 4000 watt Behringer amps? Can i experience all these room pressurizations that everyone talks about with a single 12' jl audio w7 ( i dont own one but am currently getting into building a simple sealed sub and this would be the driver i'd love to have). I know it depends on size of the room & amp power but does everyone here run multiple drivers or are there people who have single driver subs that experience the kind of tactile bass that everyone here talks about?

just wondering if i should go ahead with my build or start saving up

thanks.

No worries... I've moved up through the sub ranks over the years and even when I just had a very used M&K 12" (125w) sub, these movies were really enjoyable. And, they've always been discernible as to which ones were more impressive, etc.

Tactility is a subjective term - I can say that I have more of it with every sub upgrade, but I had some of it even with the little M&K.

BTW, my current (and last ;)) sub is Seaton's SubMersive... which is only two 15" in a decently-sized sealed box. But, the tactility factor is beyond fun now... :D

Just finished watching the movie 9 and it has more bass than terminator salvation And star trek. I give it a 5 out of 5!

Angels and Demons--Blast at the end.

Very powerful and I would bet in the 20-30hz range.

Terminator Salvation will be a blind buy for me!

Same here....I'm going to shop around for a nib blu-ray copy and wait until I get my system completed....with a decent sub.:D